From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 1 00:00:21 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21323>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 00:00:13 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21324>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 00:00:03 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.83.86]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030101045956.HNZL9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 04:59:56 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c2b152$2ee09520$5653580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <000a01c2b11d$48c78b40$9d61580c@epu1> <000e01c2b131$bab91200$c37779a5@netcom.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Club 50 Users? Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 23:56:43 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B128.454A4A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B128.454A4A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Much thanks goes to Randy Hoffman for providing that information. He = pretty much answered our questions. The answer is, those Club 50 discs = that the ZZ Sounds are selling are in fact formatted for the S550. The = catalog number he gave us matches the one(s) that ZZ Sounds is = advertising on their site. This "saves" us $50. I'm already comfortable = with my S760 Formatted Club 50 CD. I guess the $39 I will spend on the = Northstar Drumscape CD will be enough for now.=20 Thanks Again, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Randy Hoffman=20 To: Harold Everton, Jr. ; sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 8:03 PM Subject: Re: sgroup Club 50 Users? I have an S550 and the Club50 Master Performance Series Vol 1. = C50CD01. It is basically made for the S550 series because the CD reads = on the S550 and wouldn't if it wasea S770 disk. But the S7xx series = could read them by conversion, if they were made for the S550. On the = back of the CD, Club50 states that it is also for the S7xx series = samplers, but I they must mean by conversion.=20 =20 Randy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Everton, Jr.=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 2:38 PM Subject: sgroup Club 50 Users? Hey All, We know there are some S-550 users here who own Club 50 CDs that are = useable with their units. What are the catalog numbers included on your = CDs? Are there two Club 50 CDs available for the S-500 series? The light = you all shed could lead us to find out whether the Club 50 CDs ZZ Sounds = are selling are S500 or S700 formatted. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B128.454A4A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
Much thanks goes to Randy Hoffman for = providing=20 that information. He pretty much answered our questions. The answer is, = those=20 Club 50 discs that the ZZ Sounds are selling are in fact formatted for = the S550.=20 The catalog number he gave us matches the one(s) that ZZ Sounds is = advertising=20 on their site. This "saves" us $50. I'm already comfortable with my S760 = Formatted Club 50 CD. I guess the $39 I will spend on the Northstar = Drumscape CD=20 will be enough for now.
 
Thanks Again,
Harold
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Randy=20 Hoffman
To: Harold Everton, Jr. ; sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, = 2002 8:03=20 PM
Subject: Re: sgroup Club 50 = Users?

I have an S550 and the Club50 Master Performance = Series Vol=20 1.  C50CD01.  It is basically made for the S550 series = because the=20 CD reads on the S550 and wouldn't if it wasea S770 disk.  But the = S7xx=20 series could read them by conversion, if they were made for the = S550.  On=20 the back of the CD, Club50 states that it is also for the S7xx series=20 samplers, but I they must mean by conversion.
 
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Harold Everton, Jr. =
To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, = 2002 2:38=20 PM
Subject: sgroup Club 50 = Users?

Hey All,
 
We know there are some S-550 users = here who own=20 Club 50 CDs that are useable with their units. What are the catalog = numbers=20 included on your CDs? Are there two Club 50 CDs available for the = S-500=20 series? The light you all shed could lead us to find out whether the = Club 50=20 CDs ZZ Sounds are selling are S500 or S700 formatted.
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2B128.454A4A60-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 1 09:44:54 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21323>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 09:44:48 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21323>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 09:44:42 -0500 Received: from [62.64.229.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Tk6K-0005KU-00; Wed, 01 Jan 2003 14:44:09 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Sample CDs VII Continued Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 09:45:18 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000b01c2b11c$11cc5680$9d61580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > I'll keep you all posted with the Drumscapes CD. > My quest is to get that perfect guitar CD. As I said earlier, I have the Drumscapes CD in E-Mu format and it is a very good CD indeed. From Northstar I also have their guitar CD called Studio Acoustic Guitar and it is what I use when I need top notch guitar sounds. Of course, I cannot open banks with the S-760 but I converted the samples using CDxtract. As the banks are 16Mb, the conversion will load fine on the S-760 and can then be saved to load directly later. I don't know of any first class guitar samples CD in S-7 format. Happy New Year to all, Francois Rossi - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 1 11:39:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21323>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:39:31 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21323>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:39:21 -0500 Received: from user-uinj36s.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.140.220] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18Tltl-0001gC-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 01 Jan 2003 11:39:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3E1319ED.40006@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:40:13 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup Club 50 Users? References: <000a01c2b11d$48c78b40$9d61580c@epu1> <000e01c2b131$bab91200$c37779a5@netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk That's in, then. I guess they're both S-550 format CDs. I already have the first Club 50 CD, all in floppies. It's pretty good, but I can already convert load those floppies for my S-760. There are more than a few posts in the archives of this list stating that when you load an S-550 sample into the S-760, it doesn't sounds as good because the sounds are formatted specifically for the 550. I've loaded a few and haven't noticed much difference but there was certainly no improvement, as you might expect (and hope for). But I wonder what the second CD is. As far as I know, there's just one Club 50 CD for the S-550 and one for the S-760, and as Harold pointed out, the S-700 series CD is part no. CDCDF01, so it's not that. I'll call Roland tomorrow (or Monday, whenever they open) and see what they say. So is it worth $160 to get the complete Roland orchestra S-700 series sample CDs? Is it worth $50 to have the Club 50 CD on CD, just in case my floppies start to go bad (I don't have a CD-ROM for the S-550 so if that happens, I'd just be able to load them into the S-760 - I don't think you can create S-550 format floppy disks on the S-760)? And what could that second mystery Club 50 CD be? Tune in next time. Jesse Randy Hoffman wrote: > I have an S550 and the Club50 Master Performance Series Vol 1. > C50CD01. It is basically made for the S550 series because the CD > reads on the S550 and wouldn't if it wasea S770 disk. But the S7xx > series could read them by conversion, if they were made for the S550. > On the back of the CD, Club50 states that it is also for the S7xx > series samplers, but I they must mean by conversion. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 1 12:05:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21324>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:05:12 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21323>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:05:08 -0500 Received: from user-uinj36s.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.140.220] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18TmIh-0001sI-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 01 Jan 2003 12:05:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3E131FF7.4010707@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:05:59 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs VII Continued References: <000a01c2b0df$c7ca1360$4450580c@epu1> <3E1215AD.4050409@mindspring.com> <000b01c2b11c$11cc5680$9d61580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > I have a Roland VS840 which has some great killer effects. The thing > is however, it's a stereo processor which I'd like to keep reserved > for vocal and live instrumentation. I only have 8 tracks to work with, > so I'd prefer to have a separate effects unit take care of my MIDI > stuff. I'd need an effects unit that can do at least four effects at > once. The Lexicon MPX500 and Yamaha REV500 look like great contenders > in my price range. <$599. If you record your synth and sampler with FX, then you can use the same FX for voice and live instruments, right? Or are you syncing everything to record at the same time? Have you looked at the Roland half-rack FX unit? It's the same FX unit that's in their multi-track recorder (I guess in the VS840) and it's supposed to be pretty nice - I think they're reasonably priced and the folks on the Roland DAW llists always rave about them. I still don't have a decent sequencer to use with my laptop. I still use my Atari computer sequencer but I can't sync it with my AW4416 multitrack recorder. So until I get a good PC sequencer, I have to record everyuthing to the AW. This lets me be more flexible with the FX I have but it wastes tracks. I should be able to sync the drum and keyboard tracks and record them only when I master to the two master stereo tracks, which would give me a full sixteen tracks to record vox, guitars, bass, etc. And I could replace drum or synth sounds on the fly, and I could mix each drum or synth sound individually. The problem is I don't know of any sequencer that lets me work the way I want to. I record a bunch of MIDI tracks, drums and maybe keyboards, and then save it to an individual sequencer, called INTRO or VERSE1 or CHORUS. After I'm done with all these pieces, I put them all together as a song sequencer. This way I can go back and extend songs, take our or add individual parts, etc. From what little I know of modern sequencers, they don't work this way anymore. Plus, for the top line sequencer it appears you have to spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars for a program that's mostly audio stuff and plug-ins and this and that, as well as a sequencer, when all I need is a bare-bones sequencer that'll do MIDI sync. > I'll keep you all posted with the Drumscapes CD. My quest is to get > that perfect guitar CD. You guys should re-check those Prosonus > samples on your preview CD. They're top notch. One just went on eBay > for around $120. The cello included on the preview CD is one of the > best I've heard - Then again, I'm used to the quality of keyboard ROMs > anyway. Let us know. What will you be doing with the orchestra sample? Orchestration for your pop and R&B stuff or do you do classical stuff? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 1 21:21:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21323>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:21:32 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21323>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:21:21 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.63]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030102022113.NRYK20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:21:13 +0000 Message-ID: <002601c2b205$2c7f0e20$3f52580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <000a01c2b0df$c7ca1360$4450580c@epu1> <3E1215AD.4050409@mindspring.com> <000b01c2b11c$11cc5680$9d61580c@epu1> <3E131FF7.4010707@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs VII Continued Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:18:00 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2B1DB.432BE6E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2B1DB.432BE6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Well, I do Pop/R&B/Funk - A mixture of the styles. While I have a = contemporary sound, I still orchestrate what was typical of 1979-1983 - = Think of Quincy Jones - It's pop/r&b/funk, but heavily orchestrated and = serious sounding. This is why I demand the best from acoustic = multisamples. I already have enough of the synthetic stuff. I think the Club 50 CD is worth the $50. I did check out the Boss VF-1 = unit you're talking about, but I'd rather save up and get a unit that = can process four effects at four inputs at once (such as the Lexicon = MPX1 or MPX500) so I can build the synth workstation that my Roland XP60 = could not be - a 32 Multitimbral Module with Effects at every output, = sampling, adequate memory and serious flexibility. Although technology is moving rapidly and the S760 is somewhat outdated = in it's spec list (although I see it as not lacking much aside from = memory), I dream of the day when I have my Roland connected to a Flat = Screen LCD monitor via S-video, have an RC-100 controller as a keyboard = like device, with an additional mouse, with a Zip drive by the side - = It'd be the all-in-one sampler computer. I used to complain about some of the S760's shortcomings, but when I = decided to buckle down and invest in some good sample CDs, I started to = love the benefits of having a sampler with a well organized library = management system and great library. I still try to stay away from Akai = CDs by the way. Later, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs VII Continued > Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >=20 > > I have a Roland VS840 which has some great killer effects. The thing = > > is however, it's a stereo processor which I'd like to keep reserved=20 > > for vocal and live instrumentation. I only have 8 tracks to work = with,=20 > > so I'd prefer to have a separate effects unit take care of my MIDI=20 > > stuff. I'd need an effects unit that can do at least four effects at = > > once. The Lexicon MPX500 and Yamaha REV500 look like great = contenders=20 > > in my price range. <$599. >=20 > If you record your synth and sampler with FX, then you can use the = same=20 > FX for voice and live instruments, right? Or are you syncing = everything=20 > to record at the same time? Have you looked at the Roland half-rack = FX=20 > unit? It's the same FX unit that's in their multi-track recorder (I=20 > guess in the VS840) and it's supposed to be pretty nice - I think=20 > they're reasonably priced and the folks on the Roland DAW llists = always=20 > rave about them. >=20 > I still don't have a decent sequencer to use with my laptop. I still=20 > use my Atari computer sequencer but I can't sync it with my AW4416=20 > multitrack recorder. So until I get a good PC sequencer, I have to=20 > record everyuthing to the AW. This lets me be more flexible with the = FX=20 > I have but it wastes tracks. I should be able to sync the drum and=20 > keyboard tracks and record them only when I master to the two master=20 > stereo tracks, which would give me a full sixteen tracks to record = vox,=20 > guitars, bass, etc. And I could replace drum or synth sounds on the=20 > fly, and I could mix each drum or synth sound individually. >=20 > The problem is I don't know of any sequencer that lets me work the way = I=20 > want to. I record a bunch of MIDI tracks, drums and maybe keyboards,=20 > and then save it to an individual sequencer, called INTRO or VERSE1 or = > CHORUS. After I'm done with all these pieces, I put them all together = > as a song sequencer. This way I can go back and extend songs, take = our=20 > or add individual parts, etc. From what little I know of modern=20 > sequencers, they don't work this way anymore. >=20 > Plus, for the top line sequencer it appears you have to spend hundreds = > and hundreds of dollars for a program that's mostly audio stuff and=20 > plug-ins and this and that, as well as a sequencer, when all I need is = a=20 > bare-bones sequencer that'll do MIDI sync. >=20 > > I'll keep you all posted with the Drumscapes CD. My quest is to get=20 > > that perfect guitar CD. You guys should re-check those Prosonus=20 > > samples on your preview CD. They're top notch. One just went on eBay = > > for around $120. The cello included on the preview CD is one of the=20 > > best I've heard - Then again, I'm used to the quality of keyboard = ROMs=20 > > anyway. >=20 > Let us know. What will you be doing with the orchestra sample?=20 > Orchestration for your pop and R&B stuff or do you do classical = stuff? >=20 > Jesse >=20 >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2B1DB.432BE6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
Well, I do Pop/R&B/Funk - A mixture = of the=20 styles. While I have a contemporary sound, I still orchestrate what was = typical=20 of 1979-1983 - Think of Quincy Jones - It's pop/r&b/funk, but = heavily=20 orchestrated and serious sounding. This is why I demand the best from = acoustic=20 multisamples. I already have enough of the synthetic stuff.
 
I think the Club 50 CD is worth the = $50. I did=20 check out the Boss VF-1 unit you're talking about, but I'd rather save = up and=20 get a unit that can process four effects at four inputs at once (such as = the=20 Lexicon MPX1 or MPX500) so I can build the synth workstation that my = Roland XP60=20 could not be - a 32 Multitimbral Module with Effects at every output, = sampling,=20 adequate memory and serious flexibility.
 
Although technology is moving rapidly = and the S760=20 is somewhat outdated in it's spec list (although I see it as not lacking = much=20 aside from memory), I dream of the day when I have my Roland connected = to a Flat=20 Screen LCD monitor via S-video, have an RC-100 controller as a keyboard = like=20 device, with an additional mouse, with a Zip drive by the side - It'd be = the=20 all-in-one sampler computer.
 
I used to complain about some of the = S760's=20 shortcomings, but when I decided to buckle down and invest in some good = sample=20 CDs, I started to love the benefits of having a sampler with a well = organized=20 library management system and great library. I still try to stay away = from Akai=20 CDs by the way.
 
Later,
Harold
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Segovia <jsegovia@mindspring.com>
To: sgroup <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 12:05 = PM
Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs VII=20 Continued

> Harold Everton, Jr. = wrote:
>=20
> > I have a Roland VS840 which has some great killer effects. = The=20 thing
> > is however, it's a stereo processor which I'd like = to keep=20 reserved
> > for vocal and live instrumentation. I only have 8 = tracks=20 to work with,
> > so I'd prefer to have a separate effects = unit take=20 care of my MIDI
> > stuff. I'd need an effects unit that can = do at=20 least four effects at
> > once. The Lexicon MPX500 and Yamaha = REV500=20 look like great contenders
> > in my price range. = <$599.
>=20
> If you record your synth and sampler with FX, then you can use = the same=20
> FX for voice and live instruments, right?  Or are you = syncing=20 everything
> to record at the same time?  Have you looked at = the=20 Roland half-rack FX
> unit?  It's the same FX unit that's in = their=20 multi-track recorder (I
> guess in the VS840) and it's supposed = to be=20 pretty nice - I think
> they're reasonably priced and the folks = on the=20 Roland DAW llists always
> rave about them.
>
> I = still=20 don't have a decent sequencer to use with my laptop.  I still =
> use=20 my Atari computer sequencer but I can't sync it with my AW4416
>=20 multitrack recorder.  So until I get a good PC sequencer, I have to =
> record everyuthing to the AW.  This lets me be more = flexible with=20 the FX
> I have but it wastes tracks.  I should be able to = sync the=20 drum and
> keyboard tracks and record them only when I master to = the two=20 master
> stereo tracks, which would give me a full sixteen tracks = to=20 record vox,
> guitars, bass, etc.  And I could replace drum = or synth=20 sounds on the
> fly, and I could mix each drum or synth sound=20 individually.
>
> The problem is I don't know of any = sequencer that=20 lets me work the way I
> want to.  I record a bunch of MIDI = tracks,=20 drums and maybe keyboards,
> and then save it to an individual = sequencer,=20 called INTRO or VERSE1 or
> CHORUS.  After I'm done with all = these=20 pieces, I put them all together
> as a song sequencer.  This = way I=20 can go back and extend songs, take our
> or add individual parts, = etc.  From what little I know of modern
> sequencers, they = don't=20 work this way anymore.
>
> Plus, for the top line sequencer = it=20 appears you have to spend hundreds
> and hundreds of  = dollars for a=20 program that's mostly audio stuff and
> plug-ins and this and = that, as=20 well as a sequencer, when all I need is a
> bare-bones sequencer = that'll=20 do MIDI sync.
>
> > I'll keep you all posted with the = Drumscapes=20 CD. My quest is to get
> > that perfect guitar CD. You guys = should=20 re-check those Prosonus
> > samples on your preview CD. = They're top=20 notch. One just went on eBay
> > for around $120. The cello = included=20 on the preview CD is one of the
> > best I've heard - Then = again, I'm=20 used to the quality of keyboard ROMs
> > anyway.
> =
> Let=20 us know.  What will you be doing with the orchestra sample? =
>=20  Orchestration for your pop and R&B stuff or do you do = classical=20 stuff?
>
> Jesse
>
>
> -
> Sent = by the=20 sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca
> For subscription = information, send=20 mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca
= > and=20 see http://www.generalconcept= s.com/sgroup/=20 for more information.
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------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C2B1DB.432BE6E0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 1 21:27:26 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21324>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:27:21 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21324>; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:27:06 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.63]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030102022701.XIBF9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:27:01 +0000 Message-ID: <002f01c2b205$fc37ef60$3f52580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 21:23:48 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2B1DC.12E4C820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2B1DC.12E4C820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I've addressed this issue a million times here and never got a straight = likeable answer, so I'm going to post this again. What's the deal with = Akai CDs. The deal was, after dealing with a few, I tend to stay away = from them. There's an emphasis curve that's associated with the = conversion of Akai CDs - The velocity curve on most of the sounds tend = to be a bit steep. Also, the sounds tend to not follow a sample/partial = hierarchy. They tend to just end up as playable samples. The next thing is, the way sounds are labeled in S1000 format - The = names are cryptic at best and don't usually give enough info about the = sounds. Things like HeavGuitAB means nothing to me for example. The long = loading time is a hindrance, but shouldn't be complained about = considering that we at least have this feature. What are your experiences dealing with Akai CDs? If a company for = example made a CD that was available in both Roland and Akai format and = then discontinued the Roland format (such was the case with East-West's = "Ultimate Piano" CD), would you hunt down the Roland formatted CD, or = just pop for the Akai version? I'm looking for dialog, input and conversation. Please input. All of = your experiences would gladly be appreciated. Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2B1DC.12E4C820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I've addressed this issue a million = times here and=20 never got a straight likeable answer, so I'm going to post this again. = What's=20 the deal with Akai CDs. The deal was, after dealing with a few, I tend = to stay=20 away from them. There's an emphasis curve that's associated with the = conversion=20 of Akai CDs - The velocity curve on most of the sounds tend to be a bit = steep.=20 Also, the sounds tend to not follow a sample/partial hierarchy. They = tend to=20 just end up as playable samples.
 
The next thing is, the way sounds are = labeled in=20 S1000 format - The names are cryptic at best and don't usually give = enough info=20 about the sounds. Things like HeavGuitAB means nothing to me for = example. The=20 long loading time is a hindrance, but shouldn't be complained about = considering=20 that we at least have this feature.
 
What are your experiences dealing with = Akai CDs? If=20 a company for example made a CD that was available in both Roland and = Akai=20 format and then discontinued the Roland format (such was the case with=20 East-West's "Ultimate Piano" CD), would you hunt down the Roland = formatted CD,=20 or just pop for the Akai version?
 
I'm looking for dialog, input and = conversation.=20 Please input. All of your experiences would gladly be = appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C2B1DC.12E4C820-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 04:43:05 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:42:58 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29402>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:42:48 -0500 Received: from [62.64.217.76] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18U1qj-00009b-00; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 09:41:13 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 04:43:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002f01c2b205$fc37ef60$3f52580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > What's the deal with Akai CDs. There's an emphasis curve that's > associated with the conversion of Akai CDs Indeed. > The names are cryptic at best True > The long loading time is a hindrance And true. > Would you hunt down the Roland formatted CD In view of the above remarks, I cannot repeat it enough, get either Chickensys Translator or CDxtract. The trick is to create a virtual CD, convert the samples to Roland format, copy them to the virtual CD and burn the resulting ISO image. It's faster than opening S-1000 samples via the S-760 and more accurate! The ideal is to find the CD you're after in Roland format. However, good results can be obtained by using conversion programs. As I had had an E-Mu for a long time before buying my S-760, I wanted to use my E-Mu CDs with the Roland. Of course, this wasn't possible with the onboard facilities. Finally, let's remind ourselves that the S-760 hasn't evolved in a long time. Its format is not quite dead as newer Roland devices that can play samples still use the S-7 format but it's safe to assume that native Roland sample CDs will become rarer and rarer unless Roland release a new sampler that still uses the same format. With a conversion program, you're able to make sense of foreign formats such as S-3000 or E-III or Kurzweil, and can use brand new releases so long as the banks are less than 32Mb in size. Francois Rossi - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 06:10:43 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-29402>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 06:10:35 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 06:10:25 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.94]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030102111015.COGC9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:10:15 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2b24f$16191be0$5e55580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs VII Continued Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 06:07:05 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Francois, There is a Roland version of that CD, which is why I've been promoting it so much to you guys (and no, I'm not getting paid to do it). I messed with a friends for quite a bit. It is really worth the $225 investment. Check out the February 1998 Keyboard Magazine review whenever you have free time. Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois Rossi To: Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:28 AM Subject: RE: sgroup Sample CDs VII Continued > > >check out Quantum Leap Guitars & Bass. > > I didn't know there was a Roland version. > > Cheers, > > Francois > > > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 11:55:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:55:42 -0500 Received: from mailgate.purespeed.com (ns2.tidalwave.net [66.77.68.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29402>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:55:29 -0500 Received: from purespeed.com (mail.purespeed.com [66.77.69.8]) by mailgate.purespeed.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 73DB013A70 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:58:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [63.159.24.18] [63.159.24.18] by purespeed.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id AEFC14310152; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 11:55:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tgvoz@mail.purespeed.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:53:45 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Tim Goodwin Subject: Fwd: RE: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello Francois I wasn't aware that CDXtract could create a virtual CD in Roland format. Would you happen to know how to go about this ? I'm on a Mac. Thanks Tim Goodwin >In view of the above remarks, I cannot repeat it enough, get either >Chickensys Translator or CDxtract. The trick is to create a virtual CD, >convert the samples to Roland format, copy them to the virtual CD and burn >the resulting ISO image. It's faster than opening S-1000 samples via the >S-760 and more accurate! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 12:50:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-29402>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:50:47 -0500 Received: from mailgate.purespeed.com (ns2.tidalwave.net [66.77.68.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29402>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:50:37 -0500 Received: from purespeed.com (mail.purespeed.com [66.77.69.8]) by mailgate.purespeed.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id B38B713A10 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [63.159.24.18] [63.159.28.16] by purespeed.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id ABE927D500C8; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 12:50:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: tgvoz@mail.purespeed.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:37:49 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Tim Goodwin Subject: Re: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1170592750==_ma============" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --============_-1170592750==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hello Harold My experience with convert loading Akai S1000 samples into my S-760 has been that it takes a really long time but the end result sounds fairly good. I imagine if I had used Chicken Systems Translator the results would have been better considering that their software compensates for the Frequency Emphasis boost the S-760 applies to the high end of anything that it samples. The S-760 then applies a filter to all of it's outputs that returns the sound to normal. Therefore, anything convert loaded into the S-760 sounds duller because the filter would be de-emphasizing the high end (which would not have had the frequency emphasis boost applied). As I don't have an Akai sampler I can't really tell how good things sounded before I converted them. I just wanted to clarify that the de-emphasis curve was not in fact part of the Akai format but rather a hardware filter applied by the S-760. That is at least my understanding. As far as sample/partial hierarchy, as best I can tell the volumes I convert loaded ended up in the Roland sample/partial/patch/performance hierarchy. Hope this is helpful. Tim Goodwin >>Hey All, >> >>I've addressed this issue a million times here and never got a >>straight likeable answer, so I'm going to post this again. What's >>the deal with Akai CDs. The deal was, after dealing with a few, I >>tend to stay away from them. There's an emphasis curve that's >>associated with the conversion of Akai CDs - The velocity curve on >>most of the sounds tend to be a bit steep. Also, the sounds tend to >>not follow a sample/partial hierarchy. They tend to just end up as >>playable samples. >> >>The next thing is, the way sounds are labeled in S1000 format - The >>names are cryptic at best and don't usually give enough info about >>the sounds. Things like HeavGuitAB means nothing to me for example. >>The long loading time is a hindrance, but shouldn't be complained >>about considering that we at least have this feature. >> >>What are your experiences dealing with Akai CDs? If a company for >>example made a CD that was available in both Roland and Akai format >>and then discontinued the Roland format (such was the case with >>East-West's "Ultimate Piano" CD), would you hunt down the Roland >>formatted CD, or just pop for the Akai version? >> >>I'm looking for dialog, input and conversation. Please input. All >>of your experiences would gladly be appreciated. >> >>Thanks, >>Harold >> --============_-1170592750==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue
Hello Harold

My experience with convert loading Akai S1000 samples into my S-760 has been that it takes a really long time but the end result sounds fairly good. I imagine if I had used Chicken Systems Translator the results would have been better considering that their software compensates for the Frequency Emphasis boost the S-760 applies to the high end of anything that it samples. The S-760 then applies a filter to all of it's outputs that returns the sound to normal. Therefore, anything convert loaded into the S-760 sounds duller because the filter would be de-emphasizing the high end (which would not have had the frequency emphasis boost applied). As I don't have an Akai sampler I can't really tell how good things sounded before I converted them.

I just wanted to clarify that the de-emphasis curve was not in fact part of the Akai format but rather a hardware filter applied by the S-760. That is at least my understanding.

As far as sample/partial hierarchy, as best I can tell the volumes I convert loaded ended up in the Roland sample/partial/patch/performance hierarchy.

Hope this is helpful.
Tim Goodwin


Hey All,
 
I've addressed this issue a million times here and never got a straight likeable answer, so I'm going to post this again. What's the deal with Akai CDs. The deal was, after dealing with a few, I tend to stay away from them. There's an emphasis curve that's associated with the conversion of Akai CDs - The velocity curve on most of the sounds tend to be a bit steep. Also, the sounds tend to not follow a sample/partial hierarchy. They tend to just end up as playable samples.
 
The next thing is, the way sounds are labeled in S1000 format - The names are cryptic at best and don't usually give enough info about the sounds. Things like HeavGuitAB means nothing to me for example. The long loading time is a hindrance, but shouldn't be complained about considering that we at least have this feature.
 
What are your experiences dealing with Akai CDs? If a company for example made a CD that was available in both Roland and Akai format and then discontinued the Roland format (such was the case with East-West's "Ultimate Piano" CD), would you hunt down the Roland formatted CD, or just pop for the Akai version?
 
I'm looking for dialog, input and conversation. Please input. All of your experiences would gladly be appreciated.
 
Thanks,
Harold
 

--============_-1170592750==_ma============-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 14:47:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:47:26 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl ([194.151.104.156]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:47:11 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.156.108]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:47:45 +0100 Message-ID: <013901c2b299$1617e3c0$499c4bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: <87B36B3D70FBD3118C0BAA0000111504068DF178@dfw-17-exch1.ameritrade.com> Subject: Re: sgroup EF-303 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:27:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > http://www.markglinsky.com/ManualManor.html Don't know how 'alive' that site is. I mailed him weeks ago for a certain manual and haven't heard anything yet... Peter - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 14:47:34 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:47:26 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl ([194.151.104.156]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:47:11 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.156.108]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:47:55 +0100 Message-ID: <013a01c2b299$19c24e20$499c4bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: <001001c2b24f$16191be0$5e55580c@epu1> Subject: sgroup / OT: GM soundset Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:43:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, This one's about a GM-soundset so bit OT, hope you don't mind. I'm looking for some 'GM-playback' and realize I won't get very far with my S-550 or S-330. I have other gear/samplers though, so I was curious about what suggestions the people on sgroup could provide. Here goes: In addition to non-standard sounds, it'd be nice to have a quick way of GM-sound playback available (for the occasional MIDI file etc.) So I was wondering, what's the best way to go in your opinion ? Since I won't be using the GM-sounds as final sounds I don't want to spend that much but it'd be nice if the sounds are as less 'cheese' as possible (sigh...) Portability is not an issue, PC-based solutions are fine. I see a few possibilities, please add if you see other approaches: #A. Older hardware module (e.g. Roland Sound Canvas) #B. Soundfonts with SBLive / Audigy card (next to the 'serious' audio card) #C. Soundfonts with a soft-sampler (EXSP, Halion, ...) #D. Anybody perhaps knows of a ready to go GM-set available for the Akai S-2000 or Peavey DPM-SP samplers ? (32MB each) I have the impression the software-based solutions can sound a lot better because of less memory constraints, but that's just a thought. Curious to your opinions. Bye / Thanks & Best wishes for the new year ! Peter - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 21:13:43 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:13:36 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:13:26 -0500 Received: from user-uinj391.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.141.33] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UHKr-0001q9-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:13:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3E14F1F8.4010206@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:14:16 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup zzounds disks References: <200212272050_MC3-1-2199-34F9@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, I went ahead and ordered the Northstar Drumscapes CD and the two Roland orchestral CDs. 'Can't beat the prices. I got all three CDs for a lot less than just one of the Roland CDs should've cost. Once these arrive I'll have the complete S-700 series Roland CD sample library. I think this'll just about do it. I've got more samples than I'll ever be able to listen to, let alone record with. I still have a few CDs full of .wav files I've downloaded from the internet but I doubt I'll ever get to convert those over, unless I ever find a quick and easy conversion program that'll go straight from mono or stereo wav. file into the S-760 and maintain loop points, etc. There are still a few sample CDs I'd love to buy if I ever found them on sale, like Ilio's Vintage Time Traveler or Spectrasonics Distorted Reality, but I don't think I'd pay full price for them. As for the other CDs, I'm almost positive the C50CD01 is the Roland S-550 sample library on CD-ROM. Someday I may get it as well as the Club 50 CD just to have as back-ups in case my floppies fail but not today. Thanks again very much for this posting, Dennis. Jesse dennis barton wrote: >Roland C50CD01 S-Series CD-ROM Samples >Only $49.95 -- Save 90% -- More than $445 Off! >http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.ROLCD50CD01&a=em122702a66 > >Roland C50CD02 S-Series Club 50 CD-ROM Samples >Only $49.95 -- Save 92% -- More than $595 Off! >http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.ROLCD50CD02&a=em122702a67 > >Roland DS60711 Northstar Drumscape CD-ROM Samples >Only $39.95 -- Save 92% -- More than $485 Off! >http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.ROLCDDS60711&a=em122702a70 > >Roland LCDX01 Rhythm Section Instruments Sample Disc (FRS) >Only $79.95 -- Save 59% -- More than $115 Off! >http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.ROLLCDX01NFS&a=em122702a78 > >Roland LCDX02 Keyboard Instruments Sample Disc (FRS) >Only $79.95 -- Save 59% -- More than $115 Off! >http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.ROLLCDX02NFS&a=em122702a79 > >Roland LCDX03 Brass and Woodwinds Sample Disc (2 Disc Set) ((FRS) >Only $79.95 -- Save 73% -- More than $215 Off! >http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.ROLLCDX03NFS&a=em122702a80 > >Roland LCDX04 Strings and Orchestral Persussion Sample Disc (2 Disc Set) (FRS) >Only $79.95 -- Save 73% -- More than $215 Off! >http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.ROLLCDX04NFS&a=em122702a81 > > |_e_/~ Dennis Barton > ) skylab2000 > ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles > / http://skylab2000.com > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 22:22:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:22:01 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.80]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:21:51 -0500 Received: from frossi.demon.co.uk ([212.228.108.51] helo=pulsar450) by anchor-post-39.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.36 #2) id 18UIP5-00020F-0U; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 03:21:47 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Francois Rossi" To: "dennis barton" Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:22:36 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200301022008_MC3-1-2272-A8EA@compuserve.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >Chickensys Translator or CDxtract. The trick is to create a virtual CD, > >convert the samples to Roland format, copy them to the virtual CD and burn > >the resulting ISO image. It's faster than opening S-1000 samples via the > >S-760 and more accurate! > You do this in Translator or CDextract? Translator only. CDx cannot do this yet (coming soon). If your pocket cannot afford both, find a friend and share. I bought CDx some time ago and a friend of mine has Translator. I make him sample html reports of the media he gives me to catalog and he makes me a Roland CD ISO image with the samples I give him to translate. Works well and saves money. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 22:28:20 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:28:12 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:28:02 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.96.163]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030103032800.PDRR20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:28:00 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c2b2d7$aa134ea0$a360580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <200212272050_MC3-1-2199-34F9@compuserve.com> <3E14F1F8.4010206@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup zzounds disks Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:24:45 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C2B2AD.C096F480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C2B2AD.C096F480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Like Jesse, I also finally placed my order for the Northstar Drumscapes = CD. I've always wanted a great drum sound library - While this isn't as = new as the Ilio Interactive Drum Kits and Snares CD ($199), it compares = in quality, selection, and at the current price listing from ZZ Sounds, = you couldn't get nearly as great of a drum library within at least $150 = more than their asking price. I was more than marginally impressed with = the demo kits included on the Roland Preview CD-ROM, and think I'm = getting a serious bang for the buck here. It'd do all of you some justice if your request a demo from the = Northstar Site. Demos don't usually do a good job of dictating what the = CD would be like, but since I have the kits to compare this to on the = Preview CD-ROM, I could tell you that it's more than perfect. Although the XV5080 is on the market, I couldn't help but notice that a = lot of shops and companies are periodically blowing out their Roland = sample inventory. It's time we take notice and bag up the offerings. = Now, I wonder when I'll come across another Prosonus String Library on = eBay? . . . . .=20 Later, Harold P.S. - Thanks Dennis ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C2B2AD.C096F480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
Like Jesse, I also finally placed my = order for the=20 Northstar Drumscapes CD. I've always wanted a great drum sound library - = While=20 this isn't as new as the Ilio Interactive Drum Kits and Snares CD = ($199), it=20 compares in quality, selection,  and at the current price listing = from ZZ=20 Sounds, you couldn't get nearly as great of a drum library within at = least $150=20 more than their asking price. I was more than marginally impressed with = the demo=20 kits included on the Roland Preview CD-ROM, and think I'm getting a = serious bang=20 for the buck here.
 
It'd do all of you some justice if your = request a=20 demo from the Northstar Site. Demos don't usually do a good job of = dictating=20 what the CD would be like, but since I have the kits to compare this to = on the=20 Preview CD-ROM, I could tell you that it's more than = perfect.
 
Although the XV5080 is on the market, I = couldn't=20 help but notice that a lot of shops and companies are periodically = blowing out=20 their Roland sample inventory. It's time we take notice and bag up the=20 offerings. Now, I wonder when I'll come across another Prosonus String = Library=20 on eBay? . . . . .
 
Later,
Harold
 
P.S. - Thanks = Dennis
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C2B2AD.C096F480-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 22:28:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193731-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:28:48 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:28:42 -0500 Received: from user-uinj391.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.141.33] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UIVi-0004ea-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:28:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3E15039E.1070302@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:29:34 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk So can anybody quantify the emphasis curve issue? Is there a simple fix to make? Can you just Convert-load an Akai formatted sample, and then enter a filter screen and then make one or two changes to get back to normal? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 2 22:31:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:31:39 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29403>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:31:29 -0500 Received: from user-uinj391.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.141.33] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UIYQ-0001HH-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:31:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3E150447.7070009@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:32:23 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup zzounds disks References: <200212272050_MC3-1-2199-34F9@compuserve.com> <3E14F1F8.4010206@mindspring.com> <001201c2b2d7$aa134ea0$a360580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Although the XV5080 is on the market, I couldn't help but notice that > a lot of shops and companies are periodically blowing out their Roland > sample inventory. It's time we take notice and bag up the offerings. > Now, I wonder when I'll come across another Prosonus String Library on > eBay? . . . . . Please let me know if anyone sees any Ilio or Spectrasonics sample CDs on blow-out. Two of my most listened to audio CDs are the Ilio and Spectrasonics demo CDs. 'Lots of fun! Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 00:44:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:44:00 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe3335383137303533.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:43:53 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h035hZM49782 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:43:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (nan-smtp-07.noos.net [212.198.2.76]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29402>; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:36:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 958097 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jan 2003 19:36:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zgogor) ([195.132.186.52]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.76 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Jan 2003 19:36:27 -0000 Message-ID: <005901c2b296$084567c0$0200a8c0@noos.fr> From: "yael" To: "Tim Goodwin" Cc: References: Subject: Re: RE: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 14:34:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Goodwin" To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:53 PM Subject: Fwd: RE: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue > Hello Francois > > I wasn't aware that CDXtract could create a virtual CD in Roland > format. Would you happen to know how to go about this ? I'm on a Mac. > > Thanks > Tim Goodwin Hi Tim, cdXtract cannot "create" a Roland ISO DISK but it can read inside an ISO, you will have to do it with TOAST ( very easy to do but you will need the 1.3.5 Apple/cd/DVD driver, ask me if you want it...) Once the ISO is created, cdXtract can convert "on demand" what you want :o) all Roland Volumes appears, all Prgs and samples too... really great indeed ! Happy new year to all S users ! :o) Igor - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 01:19:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:18:53 -0500 Received: from siaab1aa.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:18:43 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaab1aa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id BAA07674 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:18:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:18:16 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup digital in To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301030118_MC3-1-22AB-89A9@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anyone sampling sounds to the digital in on the 760? I seem to need to -9 digital attentuation, then digital EQ to remove empahisis, then normalize. Anyone have experience and a better way? |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 02:08:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:08:32 -0500 Received: from siaab1aa.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:08:26 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaab1aa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id CAA06704 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:08:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:07:56 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301030208_MC3-1-22A6-6DDA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > So can anybody quantify the emphasis curve issue? Is there a simple f= ix >to make? Can you just Convert-load an Akai formatted sample, and then >enter a filter screen and then make one or two changes to get back to >normal? On the 760, under samples, EQ, emphasis+. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 08:42:29 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 08:42:21 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14895>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 08:42:16 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.172]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030103134211.VEPB20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:42:11 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c2b32d$7820a220$ac52580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup "Turning" the Reverb Off Of Drum Samples. Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 08:38:57 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2B303.8E82B640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2B303.8E82B640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, In the event of drum samples (kick, snare, etc.) which contain sampled = in room ambiance or somewhat bigger reverbs, is there an easy way to = remove them. For example, when I mess with the TVA on my Roland XP60, = the samples themselves sound a little more dry. What tips do some of you = have on removing ambiance from a sample. I have my Northstar Drumscapes = CD coming real soon, and I know from the preview CD that shipped with = the S760, that many of the samples have annoying mid-90s style reverbs. = I want them dry, dry, dry! Later & Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2B303.8E82B640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
In the event of drum samples (kick, = snare, etc.)=20 which contain sampled in room ambiance or somewhat bigger reverbs, is = there an=20 easy way to remove them. For example, when I mess with the TVA on my = Roland=20 XP60, the samples themselves sound a little more dry. What tips do some = of you=20 have on removing ambiance from a sample. I have my Northstar Drumscapes = CD=20 coming real soon, and I know from the preview CD that shipped with the = S760,=20 that many of the samples have annoying mid-90s style reverbs. I want = them dry,=20 dry, dry!
 
Later & Thanks,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2B303.8E82B640-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 10:01:48 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:01:44 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe3335383137303533.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:01:29 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h03F1C376774 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:01:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from quay.tripfinder.com.au (www.tripfinder.com.au [61.8.3.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14895>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:03:39 -0500 Received: from parrot.cairead.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quay.tripfinder.com.au (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h03B3RK02723 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:03:27 +1100 (EST) Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10821 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:03:25 GMT Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id LAA14422 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:03:24 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:03:24 -0500 From: Nic Grant To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup northstar request (US resident) Message-ID: <20030103110324.A14386@uv.cairead.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk zzounds won't ship overseas, so: Wondering whether there was a kind sgroup member in the US who would be prepared to order the dirt cheap Northstar Drumscapes CD from zzounds and then forward it to me? I will of course pay for postage to Ireland and the cost of the cd itself. I could settle with you via paypal if you have a paypal account which would be easiest for me (or some other method if we can work it out). So, if some kind US soul would like to help me out, please email me. Regards, Nic. -- Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, voice/fax: +1 650 618 1713 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 11:02:45 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:02:41 -0500 Received: from richardson.uni2.net ([130.227.52.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:02:26 -0500 Received: from s180499 (p449-33.ppp.get2net.dk [195.47.131.33]) by richardson.uni2.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h03G2JM01746; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:02:19 +0100 Message-ID: <005401c2b341$be7ffc20$21832fc3@s180499> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars-Peder_Nyrup_B=F8gh?= To: "P. Vermeeren" , References: <001001c2b24f$16191be0$5e55580c@epu1> <013a01c2b299$19c24e20$499c4bd5@ptr> Subject: Sv: sgroup / OT: GM soundset Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:03:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, when I bought my Akai S2000 sampler I soon realised that it would = indeed be nice to have a disk of GM sounds. I asked in the shop and it = apeard, that Akai had just made what I was looking for. The name of the = CD is: Akai CD-ROM library Volume 8. The sounds is realistic. They are organized in banks of varius size, so = that one may finde something that suits ones taste and amount of = sample-Ram (mine is at its full 32 MB, so that is realy not a problem). With kinde regards, Nyrup ----- Original Message -----=20 From: P. Vermeeren To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:43 PM Subject: sgroup / OT: GM soundset > Hello, >=20 > This one's about a GM-soundset so bit OT, hope you don't mind. >=20 > I'm looking for some 'GM-playback' and realize I won't get very far > with my S-550 or S-330. I have other gear/samplers though, so I was > curious about what suggestions the people on sgroup could provide. > Here goes: >=20 > In addition to non-standard sounds, it'd be nice to have a > quick way of GM-sound playback available (for the occasional MIDI file = etc.) >=20 > So I was wondering, what's the best way to go in your opinion ? > Since I won't be using the GM-sounds as > final sounds I don't want to spend that much but it'd be nice > if the sounds are as less 'cheese' as possible (sigh...) > Portability is not an issue, PC-based solutions are fine. >=20 > I see a few possibilities, please add if you see other approaches: >=20 > #A. Older hardware module (e.g. Roland Sound Canvas) > #B. Soundfonts with SBLive / Audigy card (next to the > 'serious' audio card) > #C. Soundfonts with a soft-sampler (EXSP, Halion, ...) > #D. Anybody perhaps knows of a ready to go GM-set available for the > Akai S-2000 or Peavey DPM-SP samplers ? (32MB each) >=20 > I have the impression the software-based solutions can sound a lot = better > because of less memory constraints, but that's just a thought. > Curious to your opinions. >=20 > Bye / Thanks & Best wishes for the new year ! >=20 > Peter >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 12:27:57 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:27:50 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:27:40 -0500 Received: from smui04.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.26]) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UVbX-0007X9-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:27:31 -0500 Received: by smui04.slb.mindspring.net id MAA0000031514; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:27:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:27:31 -0500 From: To: sgroup Reply-To: jsegovia@mindspring.com Subject: sgroup Best Drum Sample CD Ever? (But not for Roland sampler owners) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 209.192.133.18 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Check this out. Download the three mp3 demos on this page and give a listen. These are undoubtedly the best drum sample demos I've ever heard: http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=TT100 Two CDs, one with just drum shots and a second with loops and it's only $90, but unfortunately it's not available in either Roland or Akai format. 8-( Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 12:43:45 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-14895>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:43:37 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14895>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:43:27 -0500 Received: from user-2initk5.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.118.133] helo=randyhoffix) by smtp6.mindspring.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UVqv-00081n-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:43:25 -0500 Message-ID: <003501c2b34f$9bf7ece0$857679a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Jesse Segovia" , "sgroup" References: <3E15039E.1070302@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:28:43 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I would think that Roland would have taken into account the pre-emphasis curve since Roland was the one that created it. So I would skeptical that there is a problem with the S760 convert function. I heard (Chicken System) that loading a sound without emphasis, let say through midi, would be obvious to notice, Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:29 PM Subject: Re: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue > So can anybody quantify the emphasis curve issue? Is there a simple fix > to make? Can you just Convert-load an Akai formatted sample, and then > enter a filter screen and then make one or two changes to get back to > normal? > > Jesse > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 12:43:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:43:53 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-14895>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:43:37 -0500 Received: from user-2initk5.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.118.133] helo=randyhoffix) by smtp6.mindspring.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18UVr1-00081n-00; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:43:32 -0500 Message-ID: <003701c2b34f$9fc56fa0$857679a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , , References: <000c01c2b32d$7820a220$ac52580c@epu1> Subject: Re: sgroup "Turning" the Reverb Off Of Drum Samples. Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:42:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2B30C.74010AC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2B30C.74010AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On later samplers (Akai, Emu) and synthesizers the reverb can be added = by the hardware and turned off. I'm sure the ambience of the drum = samples are added in the wave data. It is impossible to remove. I = still wish I can remove camera noise from my video takes with some sort = of filter, but these software filters are not as accomplished as we = wished. Removing ticks and pops from a vinyl record is a lot easier = than removing something as pervasive as a reverb effect. Randy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Everton, Jr.=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca ; Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 5:38 AM Subject: sgroup "Turning" the Reverb Off Of Drum Samples. Hey All, In the event of drum samples (kick, snare, etc.) which contain sampled = in room ambiance or somewhat bigger reverbs, is there an easy way to = remove them. For example, when I mess with the TVA on my Roland XP60, = the samples themselves sound a little more dry. What tips do some of you = have on removing ambiance from a sample. I have my Northstar Drumscapes = CD coming real soon, and I know from the preview CD that shipped with = the S760, that many of the samples have annoying mid-90s style reverbs. = I want them dry, dry, dry! 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On later samplers (Akai, Emu) and synthesizers the = reverb can=20 be added by the hardware and turned off.  I'm sure the ambience of = the drum=20 samples are added in the wave data.  It is impossible to = remove.  I=20 still wish I can remove camera noise from my video takes with some sort = of=20 filter, but these software filters are not as accomplished as we = wished. =20 Removing ticks and pops from a vinyl record is a lot easier than = removing=20 something as pervasive as a reverb effect.
 
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Harold Everton, = Jr.
To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca ; Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups= .com=20
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 = 5:38=20 AM
Subject: sgroup "Turning" the = Reverb Off=20 Of Drum Samples.

Hey All,
 
In the event of drum samples (kick, = snare, etc.)=20 which contain sampled in room ambiance or somewhat bigger reverbs, is = there an=20 easy way to remove them. For example, when I mess with the TVA on my = Roland=20 XP60, the samples themselves sound a little more dry. What tips do = some of you=20 have on removing ambiance from a sample. I have my Northstar = Drumscapes CD=20 coming real soon, and I know from the preview CD that shipped with the = S760,=20 that many of the samples have annoying mid-90s style reverbs. I want = them dry,=20 dry, dry!
 
Later & Thanks,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C2B30C.74010AC0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 14:49:35 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:49:26 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14895>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:49:21 -0500 Received: from user ([12.88.196.231]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030103194917.EPZI20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@user>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:49:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2b360$bd5fce00$e7c4580c@user> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , "sgroup" References: Subject: Re: sgroup Best Drum Sample CD Ever? (But not for Roland sampler owners) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:45:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2B336.D3C98340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2B336.D3C98340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Sgroup, Hey Jesse, I checked out that Drum Kits From Hell demo on the page which = you listed in your last email. The demo was incredible. I'm not quite = sure if all of the demos on the page differ in quality, contents or just = size, but I downloaded the smallest file. My, how far samples have come. = The audio disc is worth twice its asking price alone. Maybe I'll = purchase that one somewhere down the road. I'm telling, my recent time = off from school has allowed me too much time to check out the latest CDs = and such. I'm going keep saving up, I want to acquire a decent CD = library this year.=20 I used to think my Roland XP60 was the king of the heap - Now I can't = stand hearing certain imitations of instruments coming from it. Later, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: sgroup Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 12:27 PM Subject: sgroup Best Drum Sample CD Ever? (But not for Roland sampler = owners) > Check this out. Download the three mp3 demos on this page and give a = listen.=20 > These are undoubtedly the best drum sample demos I've ever heard: >=20 > http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=3DTT100 >=20 > Two CDs, one with just drum shots and a second with loops and it's = only $90, > but unfortunately it's not available in either Roland or Akai format. = 8-( >=20 > Jesse >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2B336.D3C98340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Sgroup,
 
Hey Jesse, I checked out that Drum Kits From Hell = demo on the=20 page which you listed in your last email. The demo was incredible. I'm = not quite=20 sure if all of the demos on the page differ in quality, contents or just = size,=20 but I downloaded the smallest file. My, how far samples have come. The = audio=20 disc is worth twice its asking price alone. Maybe I'll purchase that one = somewhere down the road. I'm telling, my recent time off from school has = allowed=20 me too much time to check out the latest CDs and such. I'm going keep = saving up,=20 I want to acquire a decent CD library this year.
 
I used to think my Roland XP60 was the king of the = heap - Now=20 I can't stand hearing certain imitations of instruments coming from=20 it.
 
Later,
Harold
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: <jsegovia@mindspring.com>
To: sgroup <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: sgroup Best Drum Sample CD Ever? (But not = for Roland=20 sampler owners)

> Check this out.  Download the = three mp3=20 demos on this page and give a listen.
> These are undoubtedly the = best=20 drum sample demos I've ever heard:
>
> ht= tp://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=3DTT100
>=20
> Two CDs, one with just drum shots and a second with loops and = it's only=20 $90,
> but unfortunately it's not available in either Roland or = Akai=20 format.  8-(
>
> Jesse
>
> -
> Sent = by the=20 sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca
> For subscription = information, send=20 mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca
= > and=20 see http://www.generalconcept= s.com/sgroup/=20 for more information.
>
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2B336.D3C98340-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 16:01:10 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:01:04 -0500 Received: from siaag1af.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:00:57 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1af.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id QAA07648 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:00:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:00:31 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Best Drum Sample CD Ever? (But not for Roland sampler owners) To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301031600_MC3-1-2272-B21C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=3DTT100 > = > Two CDs, one with just drum shots and a second with loops and it's only= $90, > but unfortunately it's not available in either Roland or Akai format. = 8-( For those going to the NAMM show or who have freinds that are remember, = many of the sample disk companies sell the disks at the show for a very = decent discount. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 16:01:11 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:01:04 -0500 Received: from siaag1ad.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-14896>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:00:57 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id QAA07612 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:00:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:00:28 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Best Drum Sample CD Ever? (But not for Roland sampler owners) To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301031600_MC3-1-2272-B219@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >Two CDs, one with just drum shots and a second with loops and it's only= $90, >but unfortunately it's not available in either Roland or Akai format. = 8-( As far as I can tell, Chicken System Translator will read a disk of WAV files, and create a virtual drive on your computer in a format that can b= e burned into a Roland disk. Fairly fast and automatic I'm told, though I cant seem to actually figure= out how you do it. Fro things with loop points and such to wqorry about, this might not be such a simple solution, but for drum disks which are just basic hits, it might be an easy way to convert WAVs to Roland format. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 3 17:21:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-14895>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:21:38 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl ([194.151.104.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14895>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:21:34 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.241.203]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:22:10 +0100 Message-ID: <008c01c2b377$d76cb120$cbf14bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars-Peder_Nyrup_B=F8gh?= , References: <001001c2b24f$16191be0$5e55580c@epu1> <013a01c2b299$19c24e20$499c4bd5@ptr> <005401c2b341$be7ffc20$21832fc3@s180499> Subject: Re: sgroup / OT: GM soundset Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:31:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, Thanks, this is a nice alternative ! I knew of this Akai-lib series but haden't realized there was a General MIDI disk. I've done quite some Googling but couldn't find a price - may I ask what you paid for it ? My S-2000 is also 32MB-equipped, sounds like the listed banksizes I found at the Akai-site will fit in nice. Last thing I'm wondering: how should I understand these separate banks ? If all 'categories' are loaded, will the sampler directly be equivalent to a GM-module with correct program changes/sound assignments ready-to-go or does this still have to be done manually ? Thanks, Peter The Netherlands ----- Original Message ----- From: Lars-Peder Nyrup Bøgh To: P. Vermeeren ; Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Sv: sgroup / OT: GM soundset Well, when I bought my Akai S2000 sampler I soon realised that it would indeed be nice to have a disk of GM sounds. I asked in the shop and it apeard, that Akai had just made what I was looking for. The name of the CD is: Akai CD-ROM library Volume 8. The sounds is realistic. They are organized in banks of varius size, so that one may finde something that suits ones taste and amount of sample-Ram (mine is at its full 32 MB, so that is realy not a problem). With kinde regards, Nyrup - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 4 05:19:54 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-6446>; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 05:19:48 -0500 Received: from richardson.uni2.net ([130.227.52.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-6445>; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 05:19:38 -0500 Received: from s180499 (p438-057.ppp.get2net.dk [195.47.147.57]) by richardson.uni2.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h04AJRM08121; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:19:28 +0100 Message-ID: <004f01c2b3db$03335260$39932fc3@s180499> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars-Peder_Nyrup_B=F8gh?= To: "P. Vermeeren" , References: <001001c2b24f$16191be0$5e55580c@epu1> <013a01c2b299$19c24e20$499c4bd5@ptr> <005401c2b341$be7ffc20$21832fc3@s180499> <008c01c2b377$d76cb120$cbf14bd5@ptr> Subject: Sv: sgroup / OT: GM soundset Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 05:21:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Peter I think I payed around 600 DK kr for the CD about 2 years ago. In = Euro-land ;o) that must be ca. 70 Euro. The programnumbers are all setup for the GM standard! - I don't recall = know if it is possible to load a total GM set in 32 MB at a time. I = don't think so. But that has never been a problem for me as I never use = all GM-sounds at one time and I can't imagine anyone dooing so. - I = think that the price/quality relasionship is very fine for the disk! Good luck! Lars-Peder. Denmark. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: P. Vermeeren To: Lars-Peder Nyrup B=F8gh ; Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 11:31 PM Subject: Re: sgroup / OT: GM soundset > Hi, >=20 > Thanks, this is a nice alternative ! I knew of this Akai-lib series = but > haden't realized there was a General MIDI disk. I've done quite some > Googling but couldn't find a price - may I ask what you paid for it ? >=20 > My S-2000 is also 32MB-equipped, sounds like the listed banksizes I = found at > the Akai-site will fit in nice. >=20 > Last thing I'm wondering: how should I understand these separate banks = ? > If all 'categories' are loaded, will the sampler directly be = equivalent to a > GM-module with correct program changes/sound assignments ready-to-go = or does > this still have to be done manually ? >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Peter >=20 > The Netherlands - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 4 22:31:36 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-6446>; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 22:31:33 -0500 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-6445>; Sat, 4 Jan 2003 22:31:15 -0500 Received: from user-uinj2mg.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.138.208] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18V1VH-0008PS-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 04 Jan 2003 22:31:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3E17A737.3050100@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 22:32:07 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: sgroup 'Got the Drumscapes CD! References: <000c01c2b32d$7820a220$ac52580c@epu1> <003701c2b34f$9fc56fa0$857679a5@netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk It sounds great. Not quite as good as the Drumkit from Hell sample CD but very musical, very usable. And partial good news for Harold - many of the drum kits are available in both web and dry versions, unfortunately not all. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 5 06:17:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-11174>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 06:17:53 -0500 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11175>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 06:17:43 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust81.tnt6.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.46.81]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id MAA11365 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:17:31 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3E181183.6050103@cityweb.de> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 06:05:39 -0500 From: Ingo Debus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; de-DE; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Tim Goodwin schrieb: > Hello Harold > > My experience with convert loading Akai S1000 samples into my S-760 has > been that it takes a really long time but the end result sounds fairly > good. Yes, this is my experience too. > I imagine if I had used Chicken Systems Translator the results > would have been better considering that their software compensates for > the Frequency Emphasis boost the S-760 applies to the high end of > anything that it samples. The S-760 then applies a filter to all of it's > outputs that returns the sound to normal. Therefore, anything convert > loaded into the S-760 sounds duller because the filter would be > de-emphasizing the high end (which would not have had the frequency > emphasis boost applied). As I don't have an Akai sampler I can't really > tell how good things sounded before I converted them. I always thought the convert load function of the S-760 takes care of the pre-emphasis thing too (at least that is what one would expect). The samples I've convert-loaded by now just sound fine as they are. But you cannot know until you compare a Roland and an Akai with the same sample loaded side by side. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 5 20:45:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-11175>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:45:51 -0500 Received: from quattro.whistlercable.com ([64.114.124.129]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11175>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:45:41 -0500 Received: from sjspc (x1-6-00-d0-09-24-34-9d.whooshnet.com [64.114.174.48]) by quattro.whistlercable.com (Postfix) with SMTP id DD5D911FB9; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:48:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <004f01c2b525$3ee1d480$4601a8c0@sjspc> From: "Steve Schow" To: "Ingo Debus" , References: <3E181183.6050103@cityweb.de> Subject: Re: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 20:45:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ask Garthe at Chickensys about what the S-760 and XV-5080 do during convert load. He knows all that stuff inside out. It quite likely may NOT add emphasis to the samples while converting..but who knows.. With chickensys you also get other paramters converted over that the built in conversion on the Roland samplers does not handle.. In short...chickensys..when it works...will do a superior job every time of converting anything into Roland format. -steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingo Debus" To: Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 3:05 AM Subject: Re: sgroup The Akai S1000 Issue > Tim Goodwin schrieb: > > Hello Harold > > > > My experience with convert loading Akai S1000 samples into my S-760 has > > been that it takes a really long time but the end result sounds fairly > > good. > > Yes, this is my experience too. > > > I imagine if I had used Chicken Systems Translator the results > > would have been better considering that their software compensates for > > the Frequency Emphasis boost the S-760 applies to the high end of > > anything that it samples. The S-760 then applies a filter to all of it's > > outputs that returns the sound to normal. Therefore, anything convert > > loaded into the S-760 sounds duller because the filter would be > > de-emphasizing the high end (which would not have had the frequency > > emphasis boost applied). As I don't have an Akai sampler I can't really > > tell how good things sounded before I converted them. > > I always thought the convert load function of the S-760 takes care of > the pre-emphasis thing too (at least that is what one would expect). > The samples I've convert-loaded by now just sound fine as they are. > But you cannot know until you compare a Roland and an Akai with the > same sample loaded side by side. > > Ingo > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 5 22:11:10 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-11175>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:11:02 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe3335383137303533.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11175>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:10:52 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h063Akk81111 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:10:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from leviathan.cnchost.com ([207.155.252.18]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11174>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:56:02 -0500 Received: from bbm (w208.z208177251.bos-ma.dsl.cnc.net [208.177.251.208]) by leviathan.cnchost.com id MAA13194; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:55:54 -0500 (EST) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.15] Message-ID: <001101c2b4fd$3fab1f20$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> From: "Matt" To: "Roland Sgroup" Subject: sgroup 760 archiving to CD Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 15:58:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2B4BA.30CF3D80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2B4BA.30CF3D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, >From time to time there have been questions about archiving S-series media, such as Magneto-Optical, Syquest, and Jaz disks,=20 to CD-ROM. I have three 760s and one 750, and over the years have=20 accumulated many different media, many of which are of current=20 questionable value because of the quirkiness of the old drives. I spent the weekend archiving things to CD-ROM, and thought it might benefit some users to understand how straightforward the=20 process is. Using a 1GB (or a 2GB) Jaz drive/disk and a Mac as an example,=20 the following details the process: 1. Connect the SCSI Jaz drive to the Mac, making sure the ID # and terminator are correctly set. =20 2. Place a blank CD-R in the CD drive you use to burn CDs on the Mac. =20 3. Boot Osmosis, a "translator" program for samplers, one of which is Roland S-series. (Perhaps Chicken System's "Translator" can also perform this function.) 4. Insert the Jaz disk you want to archive into the Jaz drive. Osmosis will recognize the format and list the Roland heirarchy of = Volumes, Performances, Patches, Partials, and Samples in its window. 5. Boot Toast Titanium on the Mac. Select "Other", then "Device Copy". Then select "Select", which will show the various SCSI devices connected to the Mac. In this case, select the Jaz drive, and hit OK. That invokes a menu that contains device copy = parameters. As the Roland won't format more than about 650MB=20 for any given media, change the "Blocks/MB" option to=20 MB (megabytes). Then change the "Copy" option to 700. Hit OK. For Syquest, the number can be changed to 256. 6. Hit "Record" in Toast, then "Write Disk". 7. Toast will read the disk into a buffer, then begin writing the data to the CD. You can verify or not, as you prefer. It takes about five minutes to copy a fairly full Jaz disk. Ensure that you have current drivers on the Mac for any SCSI drives you'll use for the Roland media. I had to get the latest driver for an old Syquest drive, which, luckily, was still available on the Syquest website. I encountered problems copying the Syquest disks -- mostly they copied correctly, but I had problems with several. Those media were never as reliable for me as the Jaz disks. My eclectic assortment of Roland media has now been transferred to CD-ROM, making it easier and more reliable to use. As soon as my archiving project is completed, I'll be able to retire lots of = clunky, old hardware and use just a Jaz and CD-ROM drive for everything. Hope this is helpful to someone out there. Best regards, Matt Branco berman-branco music 160 Boylston St. #3 Boston MA 02116 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2B4BA.30CF3D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
From time to time there have been = questions about=20 archiving
S-series media, such as = Magneto-Optical, Syquest,=20 and Jaz disks,
to CD-ROM.  I have three 760s and = one 750,=20 and over the years have
accumulated many different media, = many of which are of current
questionable value because of the = quirkiness of the old drives.
 
I spent the weekend archiving things to = CD-ROM, and=20 thought
it might benefit some users = to understand how=20 straightforward the
process is.
 
Using a 1GB (or a 2GB) Jaz drive/disk = and a Mac as=20 an example,
the following=20 details the process:
 
 1. Connect the SCSI Jaz drive to = the Mac,=20 making sure the ID #
        and=20 terminator are correctly set. 
 2. Place a blank CD-R in the = CD drive you use to burn CDs on the Mac.  =
 3. Boot Osmosis, a "translator" program for samplers, one of which = is
       = Roland=20 S-series.  (Perhaps Chicken System's "Translator" can
       = also perform=20 this function.)
 4. Insert the Jaz disk you want = to archive=20 into the Jaz drive.  Osmosis
      =  will recognize=20 the format and list the Roland heirarchy of Volumes,
       = Performances,=20 Patches, Partials, and Samples in its window.
 5. Boot Toast Titanium on = the Mac. =20 Select "Other", then "Device
      =  Copy". =20 Then select "Select", which will show the various SCSI
       = devices=20 connected to the Mac.  In this case, select the Jaz
       = drive, and hit=20 OK.  That invokes a menu that contains device copy
      =20 parameters.  As the Roland won't format more than about 650MB
       = for any given=20 media, change the "Blocks/MB" = option to=20
       MB = (megabytes).  Then change the  "Copy"=20 option to 700. Hit OK.
       = For Syquest,=20 the number can be changed to 256.
6. Hit "Record" in Toast, then = "Write=20 Disk".
7. Toast will read the disk into a = buffer,=20 then begin writing the data
      to the = CD.  You=20 can verify or not, as you prefer.  It takes about
      five = minutes to copy=20 a fairly full Jaz disk.
 
Ensure that you have current drivers on = the Mac for=20 any SCSI drives
you'll use for the Roland media.  = I had to get=20 the latest driver for an
old Syquest drive, which, luckily, was = still=20 available on the Syquest
website.  I encountered problems = copying the=20 Syquest disks --
mostly they copied correctly, but I had = problems=20 with several.  Those
media were never as reliable for me as = the Jaz=20 disks.
 
My eclectic assortment of Roland media = has now been=20 transferred
to CD-ROM, making it easier and more = reliable to=20 use.  As soon as
my archiving project is completed, I'll = be able to=20 retire lots of clunky,
old hardware and use just a Jaz = and CD-ROM=20 drive for everything.
 
Hope this is helpful to someone out=20 there.
 
Best regards,
 
Matt Branco
berman-branco music
160 Boylston St. = #3
Boston MA 02116
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2B4BA.30CF3D80-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 5 23:10:29 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-11174>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:10:21 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11174>; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:10:15 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.97.138]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030106041006.ITYE12483.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 04:10:06 +0000 Message-ID: <002301c2b539$05de1900$8a61580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Akai S3000. Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:06:42 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2B50F.1C61BEE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2B50F.1C61BEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I've asked this question and no one has ever answered it. Has anyone = ever tried to convert Akai S3000 formatted CDs on their Roland S760 = before? I see one that looks great and am curious to know if this = wouldn't work with the Roland S760's Convert Load function. I don't have = the dough to get the translator program as of yet. Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2B50F.1C61BEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I've asked this question and no one has = ever=20 answered it. Has anyone ever tried to convert Akai S3000 formatted CDs = on their=20 Roland S760 before? I see one that looks great and am curious to know if = this=20 wouldn't work with the Roland S760's Convert Load function. I don't have = the=20 dough to get the translator program as of yet.
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C2B50F.1C61BEE0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 03:56:13 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 03:56:05 -0500 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [217.72.192.180]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-7047>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 03:55:54 -0500 Received: from [80.129.131.252] (helo=[192.168.1.33]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18VT2s-000392-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 09:55:43 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 03:52:24 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup 760 archiving to CD From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: Matt , roland Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001101c2b4fd$3fab1f20$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3124691546_23116" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Diese Nachricht ist im MIME-Format. Da Ihr Mailreader dieses Format nicht unterstŸtzt, kšnnte diese Nachricht ganz oder teilweise unlesbar sein. --B_3124691546_23116 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Great, thank you!!! Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen --B_3124691546_23116 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup 760 archiving to CD Great, thank you!!!

Nikolaus Sieveking
nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen
<niko@loktownstudio.de>

--B_3124691546_23116-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 03:56:14 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 03:56:06 -0500 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [217.72.192.180]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 03:55:54 -0500 Received: from [80.129.131.252] (helo=[192.168.1.33]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18VT2r-000392-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 09:55:41 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 03:52:24 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Akai S3000. From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , roland Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002301c2b539$05de1900$8a61580c@epu1> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3124691544_22977" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Diese Nachricht ist im MIME-Format. Da Ihr Mailreader dieses Format nicht unterstŸtzt, kšnnte diese Nachricht ganz oder teilweise unlesbar sein. --B_3124691544_22977 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sorry, it doesn't work... Niko > > Hey All, > > I've asked this question and no one has ever answered it. Has anyone ever > tried to convert Akai S3000 formatted CDs on their Roland S760 before? I see > one that looks great and am curious to know if this wouldn't work with the > Roland S760's Convert Load function. I don't have the dough to get the > translator program as of yet. > > Thanks, > Harold > > > > Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen --B_3124691544_22977 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup Akai S3000. Sorry, it doesn't work...

Niko



Hey All,

I've asked this question and no on= e has ever answered it. Has anyone ever tried to convert Akai S3000 formatte= d CDs on their Roland S760 before? I see one that looks great and am curious= to know if this wouldn't work with the Roland S760's Convert Load function.= I don't have the dough to get the translator program as of yet.

Thanks,
Harold





Nikolaus Sieveking
nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen
<niko@loktownstudio.de>

--B_3124691544_22977-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 05:33:29 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 05:33:20 -0500 Received: from fedex.is.co.za ([196.4.160.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 05:33:16 -0500 Received: from [196.33.246.222] (c9-rba-222.dial-up.net [196.33.246.222]) by fedex.is.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1AAB9D5F; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:32:47 +0200 (SAST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@pop.icon.co.za Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001101c2b4fd$3fab1f20$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> References: <001101c2b4fd$3fab1f20$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 05:32:38 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup 760 archiving to CD Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Re: sgroup 760 archiving to CD
Matt wrote:
 5. Boot Toast Titanium on the Mac.  Select "Other", then "Device
       Copy".  Then select "Select", which will show the various SCSI
       devices connected to the Mac.  In this case, select the Jaz
       drive, and hit OK.  That invokes a menu that contains device copy
       parameters.  As the Roland won't format more than about 650MB
       for any given media, change the "Blocks/MB" option to
       MB (megabytes).  Then change the  "Copy" option to 700. Hit OK.
       For Syquest, the number can be changed to 256.

Thanks for the detailed info Matt.
I'll add some info of my own, as one good turn deserves another!

I've copied Zip disks in the past, using a SCSI Zip drive. At that time, I used to simply select <SCSI copy> in Toast 4 and it would copy the disk, block for block.

Now I have a USB Zip drive and Toast 5 and the Device Copy won't see the Zip disks. (Even if I get CDXtract or Zip Tools to let me keep the disk in the drive).
I have found that Disk Copy WILL see the disks and I can make a disk image from the Zip disk. Toast can then be coaxed into accepting the image which can be burned onto a CD.

Whew....who said making backups was easy? But, as we all know, data doesn't exist unless it's in 2 or more places.

Regards - Colin

PS - unfortunately, as far as I know, there's no way to get the Disk.img back onto a Zip disk. I've tried Disk Copy and ShrinkWrap and it seems that the image file is always larger (96Mb) than the available space on the Zip Disk, which theoretically holds 100Mb but holds less when formatted. I can't trick anything into writing a disk image back to a Roland-formatted Zip.

If anyone can help, I'll be overjoyed.

- Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 11:24:57 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7047>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:24:49 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7047>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:24:43 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:24:09 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1512@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: skylab2000@compuserve.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup digital in Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:24:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Anyone sampling sounds to the digital in on the 760? > >I seem to need to -9 digital attentuation, then digital EQ to remove >empahisis, then normalize. > >Anyone have experience and a better way? I have been using it, works great. I haven't had to use that much attenuation, but I am able to adjust the digital output of my Yamaha CD Player over 5 steps. I usually tweak the eq before I sample, which can affect the sampling levels. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 11:34:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7047>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:33:51 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7047>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:33:45 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:32:07 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1513@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup "Turning" the Reverb Off Of Drum Samples. Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 11:32:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk (S760 user here) Perhaps this is an obvious one, but what about truncating the sample right where the attack finishes, and using a quick fade so it doesn't sound too gated? It's not a great method but with some experimentation, it may be useable and even give an interesting effect. ----- Original Message ----- From: Harold Everton, Jr. Hey All, In the event of drum samples (kick, snare, etc.) which contain sampled in room ambiance or somewhat bigger reverbs, is there an easy way to remove them. (snip) S760, that many of the samples have annoying mid-90s style reverbs. I want them dry, dry, dry! Later & Thanks, Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 12:47:08 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:46:59 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f22.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.22]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:46:53 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:42:04 -0800 Received: from 204.171.181.34 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 17:42:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.171.181.34] Reply-To: oleniacz@telerama.com From: "David Oleniacz" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Last chance for a Sony CDU-6211 CD-ROM drive for their S-550 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 12:42:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 17:42:04.0891 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED3AB2B0:01C2B5AA] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have one left. Last chance before it goes on Ebay Bare drive, no cables or CD Caddy. Some scratches, but 100% functional. I tested it with my SCSI S-550 and it works great! I finally could read some S-550 CDR's I had lying around. $25 + shipping. DavidO _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 13:35:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:35:37 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:35:34 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:35:08 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1518@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: francois@chezrossi.net, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Important info on S-760 website Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:35:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This site looks great - Thanks for your efforts! >The new URL for the S-760 website is either http://s760.us.tt or >http://s760.uk.tt. > >Cheers, > >Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 14:14:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7047>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:14:01 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:13:46 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:13:18 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1519@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: skylab2000@compuserve.com Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup S760 digital in Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 14:13:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If I understand what you're asking, I would say the digital samples sound much better since they don't introduce any new system noise (a very real problem using the analog inputs). However those 760 sampling inputs are very sensitive so I make sure the sampling level never gets into the "red", then I'm sure to avoid dreaded digital distortion. A little digital attenuation may be needed to accomplish this, depending on the level of the source signal. The 760 eq is active at the input so it can really affect the sampling level. For instance if I use the 760 to boost the bass eq by 6 db, the sampling level will increase by 6 dB (or more), so I may have to add 6 db of digital attenuation at the input to compensate. Normalizing is useful when you have a low-level input signal resulting in a low-level sample, and want to maximize it (use up those bits!). For a digital source this will not introduce any new noise. However if you normalize an analog sample you increase not only the level of the sample material, but any noise that was added during the sampling process (ie from noisy units or mixing boards). Without normalizing, there is little way of ensuring all your samples have a consitent amplitude, and you will have have to tweak the levels elsewhere (a big pain). As far as analog noise goes, the best defence is making sure you impedance-match all your connections and keep all your gains balanced for minimal noise. My advice is that if you can go digital, do it. The eq is quite versatile so if you're sampling limited fidelity sources (like bass or guitar) and can attenuate those freqs above 12 kHz this will help to reduce the hiss from a noisy source. I have noticed that the 760 monitors the sampling input and plays back samples at their "actual" volume, compared to what you hear when you are in performance mode (where it is dependent on velocity and the levels set by you). Sometimes it can blow your head off (not to mention your speakers)! Usually calls for turning the levels down in sampling mode and back up for performance etc. I've found a noisy-sounding sample in sample mode is much quieter when triggered from performance mode, but this is only because the relative levels are lower (or something like that). I find in general the 760 is a nice quiet unit that gives back what you put in. Hope this helps Ralph >-----Original Message----- >From: dennis barton [mailto:skylab2000@compuserve.com] >Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:36 PM >To: Detko, Ralph: OS_TDO >Subject: sgroup digital in > > >>Anyone sampling sounds to the digital in on the 760? >> >>I seem to need to -9 digital attentuation, then digital EQ to remove >>empahisis, then normalize. >> >>Anyone have experience and a better way? > > >I have been using it, works great. I haven't had to use that much > >attenuation, but I am able to adjust the digital output of >my Yamaha CD > >Player over 5 steps. I usually tweak the eq before I sample, >which can > >affect the sampling levels. > >Do you go thru all these same steps? I cant decide if it >doesn't sound quite >as good as regular analog sampling.. > > |_e_/~ Dennis Barton > ) skylab2000 > ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles > / http://skylab2000.com > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 23:06:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:06:45 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7048>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:06:35 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.81.140]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030107040629.OGLZ12483.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 04:06:29 +0000 Message-ID: <002a01c2b601$ae161320$8c51580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup The Northstar Drumscapes CD Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:03:03 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C2B5D7.C47E41C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C2B5D7.C47E41C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Just another short "at first glance" review. The sounds are simply = amazing. I'm pretty sure there are more diverse, better quality (read: = higher priced) drum sample collections out there, but for $39.99 the = usefulness and necessity of having this collections beats out the value = of the Club 50 and to some extent the Drum and Cymbal collection from = Roland. As many of you have said, every collection has its weaknesses and = strengths. Perhaps this is a great compliment to the Drum & Cymbals = collection. This is it folks, this is our SRX-1 Board for the S700 = samplers. The dry kits, namely the "Motown", "R&B" and "Funk" kits are = STUNNING. All samples are in stereo, sound full, have dimension and = VELOCITY SWITCHING!!!!!. It's hard for me to believe this was produced = in 1992. There are extra percussion samples (Cowbells, Congas, etc.) = that round out this collection. The percussion samples, while there = aren't that many, still sound great. I arranged a couple of patterns = (just to get the feel of it) and laid a Lp crackle loop sample over it = (to give it the grittiness of hearing a drummer on an LP) and I swear it = sounded like a live rhythm section (minus keys, bass and guitar). As usual with earlier Roland-made CDs, kits are put together and they = usually showcase SOME of the finer sounds on the CD. It's not until you = hunt through the patches when you find the goodies. As an example, one = of the funk kits utilized Funk Kick 1, Funk Snare 1 and PB Hi Hats. = Looking through the patch list I found Funk Snares 1-6 and was pleased = with some of the patches that didn't show up in any of the KITs. I don't usually care for wet samples as I'd rather use an external = effects processor for the effects. Considering that many manufacturers = of Roland CDs recognize the lack of effects on the S700 by implementing = sounds these, I respect them for their choice in including these = samples. I say it again, if you don't have this, and would like a GREAT = multisample drum collection to add to your library in Roland format, you = OWE yourself to get these CDs at the ridiculously low price that ZZ = Sounds has them for. Remember, these CDs went for $400+ at one time. I = don't think I'd ever pay that much for these, even though the set is = outstanding. The $39.99 deal is ridiculously generous. I don't think I'd = even run to get anymore drum CDs (unless perhaps a client insists for a = project). The Roland Drums and Cymbals works excellent with this one.=20 Now, if there was only a Guitar Collection S700 format that sounded this = good and went for this cheap. . . .=20 Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C2B5D7.C47E41C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
Just another short "at first glance"=20 review. The sounds are simply amazing. I'm pretty sure there are = more=20 diverse, better quality (read: higher priced) drum sample collections = out there,=20 but for $39.99 the usefulness and necessity of having this collections = beats out=20 the value of the Club 50 and to some extent the Drum and Cymbal = collection from=20 Roland.
 
As many of you have said, every = collection has its=20 weaknesses and strengths. Perhaps this is a great compliment to the Drum = &=20 Cymbals collection. This is it folks, this is our SRX-1 Board for the = S700=20 samplers. The dry kits, namely the "Motown", "R&B" and "Funk" kits = are=20 STUNNING. All samples are in stereo, sound full, have dimension and = VELOCITY=20 SWITCHING!!!!!. It's hard for me to believe this was produced in 1992. = There are=20 extra percussion samples (Cowbells, Congas, etc.) that round out this=20 collection. The percussion samples, while there aren't that many, still = sound=20 great. I arranged a couple of patterns (just to get the feel of it) and = laid a=20 Lp crackle loop sample over it (to give it the grittiness of hearing a = drummer=20 on an LP) and I swear it sounded like a live rhythm section (minus keys, = bass=20 and guitar).
 
As usual with earlier Roland-made CDs, = kits are put=20 together and they usually showcase SOME of the finer sounds on the CD. = It's not=20 until you hunt through the patches when you find the goodies. As an = example, one=20 of the funk kits utilized Funk Kick 1, Funk Snare 1 and PB Hi Hats. = Looking=20 through the patch list I found Funk Snares 1-6 and was pleased with some = of the=20 patches that didn't show up in any of the KITs.
 
I don't usually care for wet samples as = I'd rather=20 use an external effects processor for the effects. Considering that many = manufacturers of Roland CDs recognize the lack of effects on the S700 by = implementing sounds these, I respect them for their choice in including = these=20 samples.
 
I say it again, if you don't have this, = and would=20 like a GREAT multisample drum collection to add to your library in = Roland=20 format, you OWE yourself to get these CDs at the ridiculously low price = that ZZ=20 Sounds has them for. Remember, these CDs went for $400+ at one time. I = don't=20 think I'd ever pay that much for these, even though the set is = outstanding. The=20 $39.99 deal is ridiculously generous. I don't think I'd even run to get = anymore=20 drum CDs (unless perhaps a client insists for a project). The Roland = Drums and=20 Cymbals works excellent with this one.
 
Now, if there was only a Guitar = Collection S700=20 format that sounded this good and went for this cheap. . . . =
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C2B5D7.C47E41C0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 6 23:46:48 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7047>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:46:43 -0500 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7047>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:46:32 -0500 Received: from user-uinj3fr.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.141.251] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18Vld9-0004eT-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 23:46:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3E1A5BD3.5030009@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:47:15 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup The Northstar Drumscapes CD References: <002a01c2b601$ae161320$8c51580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have to agree with everything Harold said. Plus, there was a very pleasant surprise for me - I ordered the CD last Thursday and it arrived at my house Friday afternoon! Most of the kits sounds absolutely great. As Harold says there's a variety of kits offered under each type - they switch out kicks and snares, offer some wet and dry kits, etc. You can play the kits along with all the loops and fills made by real drummers with each kit, with all the variations mapped out on the same keyboard, and then different variations between the two. Personally I don't care much for the loops and fills but you can always use them for ideas if nothing else. The kits really do sound excellent. Very high class snares, crash cymbals and toms. all stereo. I'm very sensitive to crash cymbals and toms - for some reason these seem very difficult to sample. The occasional crash cymbal may sound a little fake and some of the toms are noisy but most everything else is top notch. VERY musical! This is Roland stuff, folks. No slow Convert-load here. Highly recommended, even at two or three times the price. Jesse Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Hey All, > > Just another short "at first glance" review. The sounds are simply > amazing. I'm pretty sure there are more diverse, better quality (read: > higher priced) drum sample collections out there, but for $39.99 the > usefulness and necessity of having this collections beats out the > value of the Club 50 and to some extent the Drum and Cymbal collection > from Roland. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 7 05:13:57 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 05:13:50 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 05:13:43 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B1673160006F2 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:13:37 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: Subject: RE: sgroup Best Drum Sample CD Ever? (But not for Roland sampler owners) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 05:13:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <200301031600_MC3-1-2272-B219@compuserve.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Fro things with loop points and such to wqorry about, this might not be > such a simple solution, but for drum disks which are just basic hits, it > might be an easy way to convert WAVs to Roland format. It is impossible to directly convert .wav to Roland - this has not been implemented in the current version of Translator. This feature is supposed to be in development but since I have had Translator (over a year) this has been in 'development' http://www.chickensys.com/translator/roland/ http://www.chickensys.com/translator/roland/wave.html It might be possible to convert .wav to Akai and then convert Akai to Roland though... Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 7 11:36:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:36:41 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f263.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.138]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:36:35 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 08:36:26 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:36:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Glad to be back!! Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:36:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2003 16:36:26.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC276AB0:01C2B66A] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey group! Glad to be back! I was just perusing the message archives from 2002! Great to see the list is still alive. I was quite active back in mid-90's and still see folk like Steve Schow...! I still use my S550 as my main sampler, with the HD-1F board installed and an Apple IIe monochrome monitor installed. Current I have an Apple 40MB HD connected for sample storage, but thanks to Peter, can now hook up my scsi zip drive, now to find that elusive Sony CDU-6211. I haven't done much direct sampling into the S-550, but instead create my samples on my PowerMac 7100, modify and/or edit in Alchemy 3.0 and SoundHack, and send to the sampler that way. Has worked great for me. Definitely good to be back. You can check out some of my novice samples in the archive's S550 area, in the folder ramsayd. peace! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 7 13:42:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-24975>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:42:39 -0500 Received: from siaab1aa.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-24975>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:42:32 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaab1aa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id NAA10461 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:42:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:41:35 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Best Drum Sample CD Ever? (But not for Roland sampler owners To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301071341_MC3-1-2325-533A@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >It is impossible to directly convert .wav to Roland - this has not been= >implemented in the current version of Translator. This feature is supposed >to be in development but since I have had Translator (over a year) this= has >been in 'development' So what good is Translator for Roland users now? It seems like it's all "= in development", but nothing is actually supported. You can create Roland disks, and IMG files, but what can you put in them?= Anything at all right now??? I tried Translator and couldn't figure out how to place sounds into these= Roland disk images, but I guess if it doesn't support *any* conversions t= o Roland, that's not yet possible. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 7 14:22:32 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24975>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:22:23 -0500 Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.12]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24975>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:22:13 -0500 Received: from kermit.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.241] helo=kermit.psp.pas.earthlink.net) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18VzIh-0006pQ-00; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 11:22:11 -0800 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by kermit.psp.pas.earthlink.net (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) id h07JMA419335; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:22:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:22:10 -0500 From: To: glyn@who.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Reply-To: rhoffman@ix.netcom.com Subject: RE: sgroup Best Drum Sample CD Ever? (But not for Roland sampler owners) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.121.124.12 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk That is a good reason to own the S550. You can load, even in stereo, wav file with SampleVision. Randy On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 05:13:46 -0500 Glyn wrote: > > > Fro things with loop points and such to > wqorry about, this might not be > > such a simple solution, but for drum disks > which are just basic hits, it > > might be an easy way to convert WAVs to > Roland format. > > It is impossible to directly convert .wav to > Roland - this has not been > implemented in the current version of > Translator. > This feature is supposed to be in development > but since I have had > Translator (over a year) this has been in > 'development' > > http://www.chickensys.com/translator/roland/ > > http://www.chickensys.com/translator/roland/wave.html > > It might be possible to convert .wav to Akai > and then convert Akai to Roland > though... > > Regards, > -=Glyn=- > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on > lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ > for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 7 14:26:18 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:26:10 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([66.203.197.218]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:26:03 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h07JPp405399 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:25:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from hotmail.com (f68.sea1.hotmail.com [207.68.163.68]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7047>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:51:35 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 15:51:34 -0800 Received: from 192.92.126.139 by sea1fd.sea1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 23:51:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [192.92.126.139] From: "adv adv" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Dj-70 & cdsample Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:51:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 23:51:34.0403 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B49C530:01C2B5DE] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'm an owner of Roland Dj-70 sampler, it's an old good machine but without SCSI port.... I'd like to know if is possible extract a single sample from a sample cd in roland format and send it to a floppy readable by my sampler. BTW which is the extension of sample of these cds? Another question: Do somebody have the last OS (maybe 1.04 or so) of my machine? Can you send me?? Thanx in advance Andrea _________________________________________________________________ MSN Extra Storage: piena libertà di esprimersi e comunicare http://www.msn.it/msnservizi/es/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 7 20:44:53 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:44:45 -0500 Received: from siaag2ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.132]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:44:41 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id UAA19913 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:44:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 20:40:45 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Dj-70 & cdsample To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301072041_MC3-1-2344-4B30@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >I'm an owner of Roland Dj-70 sampler, it's an old good machine but without >SCSI port.... I'd like to know if is possible extract a single sample from >a sample cd in roland format and send it to a floppy readable by my >sampler. BTW which is the extension of sample of these cds? Another >question: Do somebody have the last OS (maybe 1.04 or so) of my machine= ? >Can you send me?? Thanx in advance Andrea If I had that Roland CD I could read it into my s760, and transfer it to the computer thru SDS in Wavelab or Soundforge. I could also use CDXTract to read the disk to a WAV. Then WAV2S550 utility will convert to a s550 disk to be loaded into the DJ70. Long but workable. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 7 21:16:14 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24975>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:16:06 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24975>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:15:56 -0500 Received: from user-2iniv7h.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.124.241] helo=randyhoffix) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18W5l0-0008Fa-00; Tue, 07 Jan 2003 21:15:51 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c2b6bb$4d35b460$f17c79a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Jussi Piekkala" , "Sgroup" References: Subject: Re: sgroup Piano samples Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:11:04 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yes, I listened and played with Ultimate Piano, Coakley, and Prosonu for the S770. I would say the Ultimate and Coakley are slightly better than the Prosonus. The Prosonus has a slight Harpsicordy sound in the middle that is familiar with piano sound in some older Korg and EMU synths. Although I consider the Prosonus a fine sample. With the Ultimate and the Coakley, I would feel that I have finally arrived at samples I could live with for a long time and wouldn't feel that I had to look for a better one, if possible. I feel they are both above my head to judge, I do prefer the Ultimate. But, I feel that is a judgement of someone that uses headphones and listens for the most realistic sound, not, necessarily more playable in expression or performance sound. (This is my theory why Korg is more popular in concert and Roland is more popular in the film industry.) The Coakley has a more even feel in the keyboard sound up and down the scales (and probably cuts in better in performance), but I am more impressed by the sonorities of the Ultimate Piano. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Jussi Piekkala To: Sgroup Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Piano samples > On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Francois Rossi wrote: > > > Eveybody is raving about William Cockley's Perfect Piano series. Volume 1 > > (Steinway D) - 16Mb and Volume 2 (Fazioli) 32Mb are available in Roland > > format. Check his website at http://www.williamcoakley.com/piano.htm where > > you can also read various reviews published by Electronic Musician, > > Keyboard, etc. Not cheap at $300 per disc but the best there is. > > On the above mentioned site there is a discussion board where the question > regarding if the WC Perfect Piano samples sounded better in either the EMU > or the Roland format. > > In a reply posted by William Coakley (1999), he states the following: > > > Roland has that pre-emphasis/de-emphasis which to me appears to create > > a slight compression in the high end. The pianos change more in the > > Roland than the Emu... and the change is not better or worse its just > > different... some will like it... some not. The Steinway piano on > > Volume II sounds better in the Roland than in other formats but, as I > > remember from a few years ago... I personally might prefer the Emu but > > I admit I would agonize over it a bit. It's a hard call. The Emu has > > more voices under one roof... that's a plus. > > Does any of you have any experience with the WC samples? > > jp > ______________________________________________________________________ > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 7 22:55:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:55:28 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24976>; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:55:22 -0500 Received: from [80.46.167.92] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18W7Ho-000KoY-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 03:53:48 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup Info query - monitor cable Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:56:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Roland made 3 monitor cables available to connect the S-760. One for IBM-type monitor with a 9 pin D plug, one for the Atari 13 pin and another one for the Roland monitor. What plug is used on the Roland monitor, VTR? Thanks, Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 08:01:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:01:51 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:01:41 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.86.252]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030108130136.BUEE9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:01:36 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c2b715$982430a0$fc56580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Piano Samples Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:58:08 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2B6EB.AE958700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2B6EB.AE958700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I'm happy to see that we're all talking about library-related stuff, = where as I knew that people didn't just buy their S700 samplers to = sample their kitchen pots and pans and off their vinyl. Someone mentioned sometime ago that the Ultimate Piano from East West = was once available in Roland format. I can't find any information on = this on the internet (as is usually the case with a lot of Roland = S-related stuff). Is the Roland version being made? How much was or is = it? 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Hey All,
 
I'm happy to see that we're all talking = about=20 library-related stuff, where as I knew that people didn't just buy their = S700=20 samplers to sample their kitchen pots and pans and off their = vinyl.
 
Someone mentioned sometime ago that the = Ultimate=20 Piano from East West was once available in Roland format. I can't find = any=20 information on this on the internet (as is usually the case with a lot = of Roland=20 S-related stuff). Is the Roland version being made? How much was or is=20 it?
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2B6EB.AE958700-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 08:02:26 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193729-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:02:20 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:02:05 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.86.252]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030108130201.SEMZ20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:02:01 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c2b715$a6d701e0$fc56580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Monitor Cable Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:58:33 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2B6EB.BD7311C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2B6EB.BD7311C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Francois, Where could we get that 9 pin cable from? I have a 9 DB Tandy CM5 = CGA/RGB monitor lying around that I could use for the S760. I use to use = this monitor for the RGB output on my old Commodore and Commodore Amiga = PCs way back when. I'd love to be able to use this monitor with the = S760, but can't since the 9 PIN DB connector doesn't match the DIN = connector on the back of the S760. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2B6EB.BD7311C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Francois,
 
Where could we get that 9 pin cable = from? I have a=20 9 DB Tandy CM5 CGA/RGB monitor lying around that I could use for the = S760. I use=20 to use this monitor for the RGB output on my old Commodore and Commodore = Amiga=20 PCs way back when. I'd love to be able to use this monitor with the = S760, but=20 can't since the 9 PIN DB connector doesn't match the DIN connector on = the back=20 of the S760.
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2B6EB.BD7311C0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 08:14:28 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:14:20 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:14:14 -0500 Received: from [80.46.167.92] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18WG7h-000DTK-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 13:19:57 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:15:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <002401c2b715$a6d701e0$fc56580c@epu1> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Where could we get that 9 pin cable from? I got mine on eBay, looking for an IBM first generation cable. Works fine. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 08:28:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:28:44 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:28:29 -0500 Received: from [80.46.167.92] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18WGLV-000FTO-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 13:34:13 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Steven Downhill" Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:29:17 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C53@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Any ideas if it's possible to use a VGA monitor with an S760?. >I have an old VGA monitor lying unused in the corner of my room. Not directly with just a cable. You need a converter that will take RGB in and give VGA out. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 08:53:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:53:31 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:53:21 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:46:33 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C54@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:46:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Any ideas if it's possible to use a VGA monitor with an S760?. >I have an old VGA monitor lying unused in the corner of my room. > Not directly with just a cable. You need a converter that will take RGB in > and give VGA out. I thought that might be the case but I wasn't too sure. I'm looking for a cheap way to get a picture out of my S760 and as I don't have an S-Video equipped TV, Video/TV with Composite Video input or spare RGB monitor lying around I thought I'd ask. (Looks like I'll have to get hunting on the Car Boot sales this Sunday.) Also (for reference to any UK Sgroupers) Roland UK no longer have ANY of the cables that Francois has mentioned in stock. All they will suggest is getting in touch with a company called "Interactive" (which is down London somewhere) who also have stopped making them. Regards Steven > -----Original Message----- > From: Francois Rossi [SMTP:francois@chezrossi.net] > Sent: 08 January 2003 13:29 > To: Steven Downhill > Cc: Sgroup > Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable > > > >Any ideas if it's possible to use a VGA monitor with an S760?. > >I have an old VGA monitor lying unused in the corner of my room. > > Not directly with just a cable. You need a converter that will take RGB in > and give VGA out. > > Francois > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither Brother International Europe Ltd nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). 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But if you have any RGB or monochrome monitor you can make the cables by = yourself as the video connector pinning is in the usermanual and in the servicemanuals. The DIN-connectors are standard and so easy to find... =09 Another thing regarding monitors: As I have some Roland samplers (about 5) I would like to build an video = switch (monochrome or color) so that I can route the signal to oine or two monitors.=20 Has anyone of you ever built one of these video switches? I bought an PC-ISA 8bit-Video switch card that I want to control by an = 8051 microcontroller. But if there would be another nicht and ready to be built solution so = that I don't have to=20 write a software I could think of skipping the project with the = ISA-card... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 09:41:36 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:41:28 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:41:25 -0500 Received: from [80.46.167.92] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18WHK6-000KCO-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 14:36:50 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Ullrich Peter" Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:42:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0B8F@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > I would like to build an video switch > (monochrome or color) so that > I can route the signal to oine or two monitors. I've seen various solutions, all from devices used by the video industry, and all mega bucks! The cheapest signal router that takes RGB, S-Video, VGA, etc. was ?135. The only cheap switch boxes are VGA boxes that enable you to use seveal monitors with your PC. They are about ?10 but the quality is poor. I had a unit once to use my 20" Trinitron with both my PC and Mac, and the screen quality was so poor even with quality shielded cables that I stopped using it. Then I was able to borrow one of those pro video routers and the quality was excellent, but at a price I wasn't ready to spend. I have a suggestion regarding the connection of a S-760. As it has an S-Video port, you can of course connect it to the S-Video port of your PC/Mac if so equiped. My Beige G3 has video in so I just use that. However, all is not lost for those equiped with an older machine that hasn't got any video in card. Checking eBay, I found plenty of old video acquisition cards that are currently going for a song. Everybody is going the digital route so older analog products like the Miro DC range have become very affordable. For example, a Miro DC-30 that once was around ?500 in 1996/1997 is now ?30 or so on eBay. Not much more expensive than the Roland cable if found. Of course, as a video acquisition card, it wouldn't be too hot used with say a Pentium II-300, but as you'll use it just to feed video in, it will work fine with an old PC. Equally, the top video range of 1996/97 may not be great as a dedicated video card, but used as a second card (OK with Win98 up), they'll do a perfect job, and most cards from the top range of that time have S-Video in/out. Again, check out eBay for Matrox, ATI, etc. Now, Santa has already come and gone, but I wouldn't mind a rack-mounted TFT screen ;-) Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 09:52:04 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:51:57 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:51:45 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:51:34 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:51:34 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:51:34 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0B91@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Thread-Index: AcK3JAT8rx3tbGFPQmSPUC7pBPOZGwAAQdVA From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Francois Rossi" Cc: "Sgroup" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jan 2003 14:51:34.0320 (UTC) FILETIME=[7028F300:01C2B725] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hallo Francois! >> I would like to build an video switch >> (monochrome or color) so that >> I can route the signal to oine or two monitors. > >I've seen various solutions, all from devices used by the video = industry, >and all mega bucks! The cheapest signal router that takes RGB, S-Video, = VGA, >etc. was ?135. You are right - and strange connectors too... >The only cheap switch boxes are VGA boxes that enable you to use seveal >monitors with your PC. They are about ?10 but the quality is poor. I know, I have one at home.=20 Today I got an electronic version of an 4 to 1 switch (expensive) but = the quality is=20 not much better at 1280x1024 resolution on the PC... :-((( >I have a suggestion regarding the connection of a S-760. As it has an >S-Video port, you can of course connect it to the S-Video port of your >PC/Mac if so equiped.=20 I had some cards and also TV cards with S-Video Input but they all crashed after some time (Interrupt Problem? DMA problem?). I am thinking of using an 5.6 inch or 7 inch TFT-LCD-monitor that can=20 be found on Ebay for about 200 Euro/USD... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 10:07:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:06:53 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24109>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:06:47 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:05:47 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C152D@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:06:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk My $0.02: A little while ago I picked up an old Toshiba 13 inch colour monitor from around 1984 which had 3 composite inputs, RGB (a weird rectangular connector which I've never seen), and a regular coax cable input. I found it at a second hand store and paid $50 Canadian. I plug my two samplers in and can switch back and forth, and can switch to cable TV if I want. I still have one empty input for my 3rd sampler when I get it. It's not VGA or RGB but it's fine for me. The monitor is stereo and even has a remote. It doesn't have SVideo of course. It's great and was cheap. I also have a 27-inch Zenith that I purchased last year which has 3 composite inputs and an SVideo input. It was $700 CDN. A bit large for my studio though. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 15:06:57 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:06:49 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl ([194.151.104.156]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:06:45 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.225.189]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:07:29 +0100 Message-ID: <009d01c2b752$dca81740$bde14bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0B8F@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> Subject: Re: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:16:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, About a video-switch (for one monitor and an S-330 & -550): Sampler#1 --> DIN8 --cable-- DB15 Sampler#2 --> DIN8 --cable-- DB15 DB15--cable-- to Atari monitor(SC1435). All DB15's go to a printer-switchbox ('dataswitcher' for parallel-port), giving me #1 or #2. I have gathered all parts but should still solder it together. So take this into account when reading the approach I had in mind, I haven't tried it yet. Likely it'll affect the quality some bit, because of the added inserted stuff. (Or please warn me not to waste my time on this because it'll probably look horrible !) The monitors with multiple inputs sound like the most elegant approach though. Bye, Peter - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 8 18:50:10 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:50:04 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24108>; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:49:54 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:49:49 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 00:49:27 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:49:26 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764CC3F6@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Thread-Index: AcK3UY0eZkYsIZ5LSmaftzLEFviM4AAHlIQz From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "P. 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I can attest to that. Despite being a pretty incompetent solderer (I overheated a pin, and melted the plastic, but was able to straighten it all up) I managed to put together the dodgiest cable I've ever seen. But it works. Ullrich Peter wrote: > > The only cheap switch boxes are VGA boxes that enable you to use seveal > > monitors with your PC. They are about ?10 but the quality is poor. > > I know, I have one at home. > Today I got an electronic version of an 4 to 1 switch (expensive) but the > quality is not much better at 1280x1024 resolution on the PC... :-((( Cable quality can make all the difference. My newest VGA monitor has dual inputs, and I got a cheap video cable to hook an older PC up to the monitor and the image was awful. Since then, I've got one of those 4-way electronic switches bundled with decent cables, and it all looks fine. And I do run at 1280x1024. So I imagine you've either got poor quality cables, or have been ripped off on the switch. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 9 02:48:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21251>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:48:43 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21250>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:48:33 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:48:25 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:48:25 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: AW: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 02:48:25 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0B99@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AW: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Thread-Index: AcK3k265nqK+TwOkTmeZ17nXY68g9wAIBV2Q From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Bernie Maier" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 07:48:25.0805 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DD6BFD0:01C2B7B3] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> > The only cheap switch boxes are VGA boxes that enable you to use = seveal >> > monitors with your PC. They are about ?10 but the quality is poor. >> >> I know, I have one at home. >> Today I got an electronic version of an 4 to 1 switch (expensive) but = the >> quality is not much better at 1280x1024 resolution on the PC... :-((( > >Cable quality can make all the difference. My newest VGA monitor has >dual inputs, and I got a cheap video cable to hook an older PC up to >the monitor and the image was awful. Since then, I've got one of those >4-way electronic switches bundled with decent cables, and it all looks >fine. And I do run at 1280x1024. So I imagine you've either got poor >quality cables, or have been ripped off on the switch. You are right. But I got the original cables from the switch manufacturer and high quality cables from the switch to the monitor (this cables has been used = before without any problems when I had no switch!) But there are quite high refelctions on the cables as can be seen as = shadows to the right of the fonts. It would be better if I could switch the scan rate to 60Hz but the graphics driver only supports 75Hz :-((( Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 9 13:35:02 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21250>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:34:54 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21250>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:34:51 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.97.122]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030109183440.ONJN9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:34:40 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2b80d$4de60100$7a61580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Best Guitar Sample CD Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:31:18 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B7E3.64682040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B7E3.64682040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, After doing lots of research via the phone and the internet, I found a = place that is selling the highly acclaimed Roland formatted Quantum Leap = Guitar & Bass CD for $199. Compare that to the $299 and $249 that others = are selling it for. The place is called B & H Photo and Video. It's here = in NYC on W34st and 9Ave. They always have ads in Keyboard Magazine. = Their web address should also be listed there as well. I was going to = get the Akai formatted version at Sam Ash on W48st for $157, but then = realized that the money I saved would be invested in waiting a 1/2 hour = for 16 and 32MB convert loads! Just so you all know, a lot of their main-line Sample CDs are sold WAY = below what the competition asks for. I should receive the CD in about a = week or so. I'll post a review as soon as I get the chance to. You = should all post reviews for the samples CDs you have. These reviews are = very useful as it would let S700 users know that there is still = large/wide support (at this time) for our 13 year old format. Thanks, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B7E3.64682040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
After doing lots of research via the = phone and the=20 internet, I found a place that is selling the highly acclaimed Roland = formatted=20 Quantum Leap Guitar & Bass CD for $199. Compare that to the $299 and = $249=20 that others are selling it for. The place is called B & H Photo and = Video.=20 It's here in NYC on W34st and 9Ave. They always have ads in Keyboard = Magazine.=20 Their web address should also be listed there as well. I was going to = get the=20 Akai formatted version at Sam Ash on W48st for $157, but then realized = that the=20 money I saved would be invested in waiting a 1/2 hour for 16 and 32MB = convert=20 loads!
 
Just so you all know, a lot of their = main-line=20 Sample CDs are sold WAY below what the competition asks for. I should = receive=20 the CD in about a week or so. I'll post a review as soon as I get the = chance to.=20 You should all post reviews for the samples CDs you have. These reviews = are very=20 useful as it would let S700 users know that there is still large/wide = support=20 (at this time) for our 13 year old format.
 
Thanks,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B7E3.64682040-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 9 15:03:39 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21250>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:03:32 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21250>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:03:25 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.81.140]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030109200316.GVHT20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:03:16 +0000 Message-ID: <003f01c2b819$ae180c60$8c51580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Best Guitar Sample CD Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:59:51 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Gtrplaya, Go ahead and review them, maybe we could even have a Sample CD review (compiled of our reviews here) in the Sgroup archive! Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: gtrplaya ! To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: Re: sgroup Best Guitar Sample CD > Grrr to guitar sample CDs (since I'm a guitarist and *could* make my > own...haha) > > Seriously, thanks for the heads up, Harold. I have a few sample CDs (though > not Roland format), that I could review, if the group is interested. I > usually rip and reformat for my S-550. > > > best, > Doug > > AfterSix Productions > http://www.geocities.com/a6productions > > > From: "Harold Everton, Jr." > >To: > >Subject: sgroup Best Guitar Sample CD > >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:31:18 -0500 > > > >Hey All, > > > >After doing lots of research via the phone and the internet, I found a > >place that is selling the highly acclaimed Roland formatted Quantum Leap > >Guitar & Bass CD for $199. Compare that to the $299 and $249 that others > >are selling it for. The place is called B & H Photo and Video. It's here in > >NYC on W34st and 9Ave. They always have ads in Keyboard Magazine. Their web > >address should also be listed there as well. I was going to get the Akai > >formatted version at Sam Ash on W48st for $157, but then realized that the > >money I saved would be invested in waiting a 1/2 hour for 16 and 32MB > >convert loads! > > > >Just so you all know, a lot of their main-line Sample CDs are sold WAY > >below what the competition asks for. I should receive the CD in about a > >week or so. I'll post a review as soon as I get the chance to. You should > >all post reviews for the samples CDs you have. These reviews are very > >useful as it would let S700 users know that there is still large/wide > >support (at this time) for our 13 year old format. > > > >Thanks, > >Harold Everton, Jr. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 9 15:23:54 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21251>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:23:46 -0500 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21251>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:23:39 -0500 Received: from smui01.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.21]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18WjDG-0007JA-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 15:23:38 -0500 Received: by smui01.slb.mindspring.net id PAA0000006638; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:23:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:23:33 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Reply-To: jsegovia@mindspring.com Subject: Re: sgroup Best Guitar Sample CD Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 209.192.133.18 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Go ahead and review them, maybe we could even have a Sample CD review > (compiled of our reviews here) in the Sgroup archive! Excellent idea!!! I just started going (slowly) through all my sample CDs one by one and making notes of the interesting stuff. This would be a good time for me to write up a quick review of each. Would it be cool to upload these, John? Is there a folder we could use? Speaking of uploads, I'd remixing some stuff I did years ago mainly using my S-550 sampler. Would anyone be interested in hearing the mp3s? John, would this be something I could upload to the archive site? And yes, Doug, by all means review your guitar sample CDs. I'm also a guitarist but I'm interested in any new sounds for my samplers. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 9 15:54:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21250>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:54:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.94]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21250>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:54:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:53:57 -0800 Received: from 128.183.85.78 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:53:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.183.85.78] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Best Guitar Sample CD Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:53:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 20:53:57.0210 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A586BA0:01C2B821] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ok...sounds good to me! The CDs in my collection aren't guitar sample CDs (per my message), but I'd be glad to review what I have: Ilio, etc...including a sample CD put together by the folks on the Analog Heaven list....all vintage analog synths >From: >Reply-To: jsegovia@mindspring.com >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: Re: sgroup Best Guitar Sample CD >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:23:33 -0500 > >Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > > Go ahead and review them, maybe we could even have a Sample CD review > > (compiled of our reviews here) in the Sgroup archive! > >Excellent idea!!! I just started going (slowly) through all my sample CDs >one >by one and making notes of the interesting stuff. This would be a good >time >for me to write up a quick review of each. > >Would it be cool to upload these, John? Is there a folder we could use? > >Speaking of uploads, I'd remixing some stuff I did years ago mainly using >my >S-550 sampler. Would anyone be interested in hearing the mp3s? John, >would >this be something I could upload to the archive site? > >And yes, Doug, by all means review your guitar sample CDs. I'm also a >guitarist but I'm interested in any new sounds for my samplers. > >Jesse > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 9 16:36:44 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21251>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:36:35 -0500 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21251>; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:36:25 -0500 Received: from smui01.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.21]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18WkLf-0004oI-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:36:23 -0500 Received: by smui01.slb.mindspring.net id QAA0000008733; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:36:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:36:22 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Reply-To: jsegovia@mindspring.com Subject: Re: sgroup Best Guitar Sample CD Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 209.192.133.18 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk What Ilio stuff do you have? For that matter how would everyone on the list like to post a listing of all their sample material, for all their Roland samplers (S-10/110, S-3XX/5XX, S-7XX)? I'll post a list when I get home. Jesse On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:53:56 -0500 gtrplaya ! wrote: > > Ok...sounds good to me! The CDs in my > collection aren't guitar sample CDs > (per my message), but I'd be glad to review > what I have: Ilio, > etc...including a sample CD put together by the > folks on the Analog Heaven > list....all vintage analog synths - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 10 05:25:30 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21932>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:25:22 -0500 Received: from nemesis.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21932>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:25:16 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by nemesis.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DBCF816007F4A for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 10:25:10 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:25:17 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Are you sure the DC30 range will do what you suggest Francois? ISTR that you need a program such as Premiere to capture video rather than just feeding a signal in and display it to the screen. The DC30 was not even compatible with Netmeeting and the like if I recall correctly. Then again I could be wrong! ;^) Regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Francois Rossi > Sent: 08 January 2003 14:42 > To: Ullrich Peter > Cc: Sgroup > Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch > Checking eBay, I found plenty of old video > acquisition cards > that are currently going for a song. Everybody is going the > digital route so > older analog products like the Miro DC range have become very affordable. > For example, a Miro DC-30 that once was around ?500 in 1996/1997 > is now ?30 > or so on eBay. Not much more expensive than the Roland cable if found. Of > course, as a video acquisition card, it wouldn't be too hot used > with say a > Pentium II-300, but as you'll use it just to feed video in, it will work > fine with an old PC. Equally, the top video range of 1996/97 may not be > great as a dedicated video card, but used as a second card (OK with Win98 > up), they'll do a perfect job, and most cards from the top range of that > time have S-Video in/out. Again, check out eBay for Matrox, ATI, etc. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 10 05:39:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:39:41 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:39:31 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:39:28 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:39:28 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 05:39:27 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0BD0@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Thread-Index: AcK4kqvPS809wf82QLaP9PONjq5+zgAAdMGQ From: "Ullrich Peter" To: , "Roland S760 List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2003 10:39:28.0239 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D23A7F0:01C2B894] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Are you sure the DC30 range will do what you suggest Francois? As every primitve capture card that was delivered with the webcams for = about=20 30USD did the job I think the expensive DC30 will do it also... >ISTR that you need a program such as Premiere to capture video rather = than >just feeding a signal in and display it to the screen. No you don't need capturing if the capture card is a PCI card. The capture card insert the video signal in realtime over the PCI bus = into=20 the graphics memory. Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 10 11:02:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:52 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193723-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:46 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B80E3160005A7; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:02:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" , "Francois Rossi" Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > > Are you sure the DC30 range will do what you suggest Francois? > > Yes. > > >ISTR that you need a program such as Premiere to capture video > rather than > >just feeding a signal in and display it to the screen. > >Then again I could be wrong! ;^) > > If you install a card like the DC30 inside your PC to feed video > in to your > graphics memory, you're not doing any video grabbing, just > feeding a signal. > You'll need a program to display the video signal though. And this program is called what and available from where?? The reason I ask is when I had my DC30 I could never do this. It wasn't even an option on my DV500 and I certainly can't do this with my DVStorm - to the best of my knowledge - although I would like to be proved wrong! :-) I couldn't even use the above cards with Netmeeting and the like. Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 10 11:03:02 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:52 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:45 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FFC1160000D3 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:02:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: FW: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >Are you sure the DC30 range will do what you suggest Francois? > > As every primitve capture card that was delivered with the > webcams for about > 30USD did the job I think the expensive DC30 will do it also... Sorry to rain on your parade but to assume that because a dedicated capture card that is more expensive than $30 will support Netmeeting and the like is incorrect. My DC30+ did not support Netmeeting - cost 400 UKP. This also used a proprietary MJPEG CODEC. My DV500 did not support Netmeeting either - cost 600 UKP I remember asking the same question in the Pinnacle forums and being laughed at...although one person said it could be done he never did explain how. My current DVStorm does not support Netmeeting - cost 800 UKP As an aside my Yamaha SW1000XG soundcard does not support Netmeeting either - cost 450 UKP I am guessing that my Creamware Pulsar does not support Netmeeting either cost 800 UKP - haven't tried it as I purchased a Logitech QuickCam 3000 Pro that does - cost 50 UKP! > >ISTR that you need a program such as Premiere to capture video > rather than > >just feeding a signal in and display it to the screen. > > No you don't need capturing if the capture card is a PCI card. > The capture card insert the video signal in real-time over the PCI > bus into > the graphics memory. Can you please explain how to do this? It would be nice to be able to feed my S760 sampler output into my dedicated capture card S-Video input and display it on my 21" Eizo instead of my 17" video monitor via composite. Thanks & regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 10 11:03:04 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:52 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:45 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 70FA5160002D5; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:02:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" , "Ullrich Peter" Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:02:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0BDD@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >> No you don't need capturing if the capture card is a PCI card. > >> The capture card insert the video signal in real-time over the PCI > >> bus into > >> the graphics memory. > > > >Can you please explain how to do this? > > With the drivers from the webcam cards / or TV cards! > Instead of TV input select Video In or S-Video input and the sampler > output will be displayed! And some capture software can be switched to a > mode without button - just a small windows frame around! And resizable! I do not recall getting these 'drivers' with either my DC30+, DV500+ nor the DVStorm... > As the resolution of the S-760 is not very high I would not make > it fullscreen. > A small windows window is enough. I used it for a few weeks and put it > in the right top edge of the screen. The other screen areas were > used for the > sequencer and harddisk recording. This would work with TV cards/webcam card designed for displaying TV and incoming video on the computer monitor but none of the cards above would, to the best of my knowledge, work as you suggest. The DC30 (that Francois referred too) was designed as an analogue video capture card. I have never seen it working this way - but I would like to be proved wrong! :-) Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 10 20:27:16 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:27:08 -0500 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21933>; Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:27:05 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 009EE1600166F for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 01:27:03 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: sgroup FS: 2U Rack mount SCSI enclosure Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:27:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk As I have sold my fully loaded S760 (32MB, OP760/1 & Roland mouse) and am looking to sell the other I have the following item for sale if anyone is interested. Orpheus Electronics 2U rack mountable SCSI enclosure & PSU Takes 2 internal 5.25" SCSI devices and 2 external 5.25" SCSI devices. It is fitted with a Seagate 1.0GB HDD Roland formatted with system 2.24 - boots S760 in 1 second instead of 60 seconds This can also be used for storing performances/patches/partials/samples etc. with a similar speed increase in loading/saving It has a Roland approved Plextor CD-ROM with black bezel to match the S760/Orpheus enclosure in the left hand bay It has a second SCSI chain (which I used to connect my Korg Trinity) that consisted of a 4.5GB SCSI drive formatted Trinity HDD (now removed) and an Iomega Zip100 SCSI drive - again with black bezel to match the S760/Orpheus enclosure. It should only take a 50 pin Centronics->50pin Centronics cable to connect up both SCSI chains so the S760 has continuous access to both chains. It has gold plated L/R Audio phono sockets on the rear of the unit to enable playing of audio CD's under SCSI control of the S760 or directly from the Plextor CD-ROM. I would like 99 UK Pounds for this. Email replies to glyntheobvious@who.net Beware SpamTrap - remove "theobvious" to reply. Thanks for looking. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 11 16:15:45 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-1006>; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:15:40 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-1006>; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:15:24 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:15:21 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:15:21 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:15:21 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764CC409@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Thread-Index: AcK4wdTK0d4ThR6KTamPTgOl2A6T7wA86ZNT From: "Ullrich Peter" To: , "Roland S760 List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2003 21:15:21.0684 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CC71940:01C2B9B6] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk SGkhDQoNCgk+R2x5bjogVGhlIHJlYXNvbiBJIGFzayBpcyB3aGVuIEkgaGFkIG15IERDMzAgSSBj b3VsZCBuZXZlciBkbyB0aGlzLg0KCT5JdCB3YXNuJ3QgZXZlbiBhbiBvcHRpb24gb24gbXkgRFY1 MDAgYW5kIEkgY2VydGFpbmx5IGNhbid0IGRvIHRoaXMgd2l0aA0KbXkNCgk+RFZTdG9ybSAtIHRv IHRoZSBiZXN0IG9mIG15IGtub3dsZWRnZSAtIGFsdGhvdWdoIEkgd291bGQgbGlrZSB0byBiZQ0K cHJvdmVkDQoJPndyb25nISA6LSkNCgk+IA0KCT5JIGNvdWxkbid0IGV2ZW4gdXNlIHRoZSBhYm92 ZSBjYXJkcyB3aXRoIE5ldG1lZXRpbmcgYW5kIHRoZSBsaWtlLg0KDQoJV2hpY2ggdmlkZW8gY2Fw dHVyZQ0KCWNoaXAgaXMgb24geW91ciBEQzMwIGNhcmQ/IElmIHRoZXJlIGlzIGEgQlQ4NDggb3Ig QlQ4Nzggb3IgY29tcGF0aWJsZSBpdA0Kc2hvdWxkIGJlIG5vIHByb2JsZW0uIEJlc2lkZSB0aGUg c3BlY2lhbCBkcml2ZXJzIHlvdSBtYXkgaGF2ZSB0aGVyZSBhcmUgc3RhbmRhcmQNCmRyaXZlcnMg b24gdGhlIG5ldCBhbnMgSSBwdXQgb25lIG9uIG15IGhvbWVwYWdlOg0KDQoJaHR0cDovL2hvbWUu cGFnZXMuYXQvcHVsbHJpY2gvcHJvZ3JhbXMvY2FwMjIuZXhlDQoNCglBbmQgaGVyZSBpcyBhIHBy b2dyYW0gdGhhdCBtaWdodCBoZWxwOg0KDQoJDQoJaHR0cDovL2hvbWUucGFnZXMuYXQvcHVsbHJp Y2gvcHJvZ3JhbXMvY2FwdGVzdC5leGUNCg0KCVRoaXMgcHJvZ3JhbSB0ZXN0cyBpZiB5b3VyIGNh cmQgY2FuIGJlIHVzZWQgd2l0aCB0aGUgc3RhbmRhcmQgbWljcm9zb2Z0DQpjYXB0dXJlIHdpbmRv dyBjbGFzcy4NCg0KCUFuZCBJIGZvdW5kIGFuIGluZm8gb24gdGhlIHBhY2thZ2Ugb2YgbXkgd2Vi Y2FtIChub3QgaW5zdGFsbGVkIGF0IHRoZQ0KbW9tZW50KSB0aGF0IHRlbGxzIHRoYXQgdGhlIGZ1 bGxzY3JlZW4gbW9kZSBjYW4gb25seSBiZSB1c2VkIGluIG92ZXJsYXkgbW9kZS4gSWYNCnRoZSBv dmVybGF5IG1vZGUgaXMgbm90IHN1cHBvcnRlZCBieSB5b3VyIGNhcHR1cmUgY2FyZCBhbmQgZ3Jh cGhpYyBjYXJkDQpjb21iaW5hdGlvbiB0aGUgd2F5IHZpYSBEaXJlY3RYIGRyaXZlcnMgc2hvdWxk IGFsd2F5cyB3b3JrIGJ1dCBhIGxpdHRsZSBiaXQNCnNsb3dlci4gQnV0IGFzIHRoZSBzYW1wbGVy IHNjcmVlbiBkb2VzIG5vdCBjaGFuZ2UgZmFzdCBpdCBzaG91bGQgYmUgbm8gcHJvYmxlbS4NCg0K CUNpYW8NCg0KCVBldGVyDQoNCglodHRwOi8vdWxscmljaC5hdC50dA0KDQo= - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 11 18:38:23 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-1007>; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:38:14 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-1007>; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:38:10 -0500 Received: from [80.46.154.112] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18XV7y-0003Bl-00; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:33:22 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Monitor Cable / Video Switch Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:38:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >It would be nice to be able to feed my S760 sampler output into my dedicated >capture card S-Video input and display it on my 21" Eizo instead of my 17" >video monitor via composite. I've asked a friend who uses a PC to feed his S-760 S-video out signal and he said he uses a Miro DC30 and an application called TV Viewer. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 15 20:33:38 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-20418>; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:33:31 -0500 Received: from siaag2ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.132]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20418>; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:33:27 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id UAA27532 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:33:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:30:27 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup sample CDs To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301152030_MC3-1-24DF-9FFB@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk There's 36 Roland format disks here: http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/search.phtml?sampler_type=3Droland&ty= pe=3Ds amp le_cds_and_cd_roms&sound_category=3D&*ignore*=3DFIND+IT%21 |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 10:31:57 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:31:48 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:31:45 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.81.139]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030116153143.ZYUX9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:31:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2bd73$da73b520$8b51580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:27:59 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2BD49.F0FD7580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2BD49.F0FD7580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everyone, A long time ago when the Roland S760 debuted, 2MB was a considerably = large amount of memory for PCs and 40MB was the standard size of all = hard drives (more or less). We live in radically different times now. = Our hard drive limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs usually exceed = or max out at 600MB+. My question is, what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive = space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I have a Zip100MB which = seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but gets used up = quickly! I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six months ago, but even = if we got those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB anyway.=20 In these days of 3.1 Ghz PCs and 160GB hard drives, do you all use your = Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and then load them in via SCSI. = There always has to be a headache. For me, it's loading in a CD = everytime I need to use it. I'd love to just have everything on one hard = drive, cataloged with a librarian program so if say a client comes to = the studio, I could call up all of my drum kits, all of my guitars, etc, = and then just load them in. This is similar to how David Newman files = his stuff as indicated in the famous December 2000 issue of Keyboard = Magazine (remember his 26 stacked S760 samplers?). For those who are upgrading to XV5080s, this is no issue as it can = communicate directly with the PC via SCSI, and, I think it can use = drives up to 256GB. Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2BD49.F0FD7580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Everyone,
 
A long time ago when the Roland S760 = debuted, 2MB=20 was a considerably large amount of memory for PCs and 40MB was the = standard size=20 of all hard drives (more or less). We live in radically different times = now. Our=20 hard drive limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs usually exceed or = max out=20 at 600MB+.
 
My question is, what are you people = doing when it=20 comes to hard drive space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I = have a=20 Zip100MB which seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but = gets=20 used up quickly! I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six months ago, = but even=20 if we got those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB anyway. =
 
In these days of  3.1 Ghz PCs and = 160GB hard=20 drives, do you all use your Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and = then load=20 them in via SCSI. There always has to be a headache. For me, it's = loading in a=20 CD everytime I need to use it. I'd love to just have everything on one = hard=20 drive, cataloged with a librarian program so if say a client comes to = the=20 studio, I could call up all of my drum kits, all of my guitars, etc, and = then=20 just load them in. This is similar to how David Newman files his stuff = as=20 indicated in the famous December 2000 issue of Keyboard Magazine = (remember his=20 26 stacked S760 samplers?).
 
For those who are upgrading to XV5080s, = this is no=20 issue as it can communicate directly with the PC via SCSI, and, I think = it can=20 use drives up to 256GB.
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2BD49.F0FD7580-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 10:34:16 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:34:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f6.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:33:56 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:33:54 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:33:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup sample CDs Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:33:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 15:33:54.0527 (UTC) FILETIME=[AD8BC6F0:01C2BD74] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anyone know if they are S-550 or S7xx? >From: dennis barton >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: sgroup sample CDs >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:30:27 -0500 > > >There's 36 Roland format disks here: > >http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/search.phtml?sampler_type=roland&type=s >amp le_cds_and_cd_roms&sound_category=&*ignore*=FIND+IT%21 > > > |_e_/~ Dennis Barton > ) skylab2000 > ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles > / http://skylab2000.com > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 10:38:19 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:38:10 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f245.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.245]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:38:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:37:56 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.105 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:37:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.105] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:37:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 15:37:56.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DA91670:01C2BD75] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, Harold, since I still use (and love) my dinosaur S-550, I have an old Apple SCSI drive hooked up, but as we all know, the S-550 can't see any more than 40MB of storage at one time. My only other alternative right now is my Zip 100, which I know can replace the HD. I often load samples not on the HD via my PowerMac, using Alchemy 3.0....still slow. Doug >From: "Harold Everton, Jr." >To: >Subject: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:27:59 -0500 > >Hey Everyone, > >A long time ago when the Roland S760 debuted, 2MB was a considerably large >amount of memory for PCs and 40MB was the standard size of all hard drives >(more or less). We live in radically different times now. Our hard drive >limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs usually exceed or max out at >600MB+. > >My question is, what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive >space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I have a Zip100MB which >seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but gets used up quickly! >I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six months ago, but even if we got >those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB anyway. > >In these days of 3.1 Ghz PCs and 160GB hard drives, do you all use your >Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and then load them in via SCSI. There >always has to be a headache. For me, it's loading in a CD everytime I need >to use it. I'd love to just have everything on one hard drive, cataloged >with a librarian program so if say a client comes to the studio, I could >call up all of my drum kits, all of my guitars, etc, and then just load >them in. This is similar to how David Newman files his stuff as indicated >in the famous December 2000 issue of Keyboard Magazine (remember his 26 >stacked S760 samplers?). > >For those who are upgrading to XV5080s, this is no issue as it can >communicate directly with the PC via SCSI, and, I think it can use drives >up to 256GB. > >Later, >Harold Everton, Jr. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 10:39:28 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193731-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:39:23 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([66.203.197.217]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:39:16 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0GFd4244112 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:39:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from quay.tripfinder.com.au (www.tripfinder.com.au [61.8.3.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:37:29 -0500 Received: from parrot.cairead.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quay.tripfinder.com.au (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h0GFbKK17079 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 02:37:21 +1100 (EST) Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04860 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:37:19 GMT Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id PAA17535 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:37:16 GMT Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:37:16 -0500 From: Nic Grant To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Message-ID: <20030116153716.A17511@uv.cairead.com> References: <000a01c2bd73$da73b520$8b51580c@epu1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000a01c2bd73$da73b520$8b51580c@epu1>; from evertonrecords@worldnet.att.net on Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 10:27:59AM -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk to quote Harold Everton, Jr.: => My question is, what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I have a Zip100MB which seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but gets used up quickly! I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six months ago, but even if we got those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB anyway. Fow what it is worth, I have all my favourite and commonly used samples on a fixed disk (500Mb?) for speed, a zip drive for archived and less regularly used samples and finally a cdrom drive for import/sample libraries. I only have an S750, so no SCSI MIDI for me, and MIDI SDS is just too slow and troublesome. Regards, Nic. -- Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, voice/fax: +1 650 618 1713 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 10:43:13 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:43:10 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:43:00 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZCGL-000F00-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:49:01 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:44:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <000a01c2bd73$da73b520$8b51580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Our hard drive limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs > usually exceed or max out at 600MB+. Roland CDs are 600 max, not 650. > what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive space. Use scsi and connect several drives, daisy chained. You can buy 1Gb units very cheaply these days. Personally, I've got two and a cd player. The cd contains whatever I need at the time, drive 1 contains 600Mb of my favourite banks, and drive 2 is used for work in progress and burning to cd. > How are you all cataloging your samples? CDxtract. Best sample cataloguing utility there is. >I'd love to just have everything on one hard drive... For that, you need a new Akai or E-Mu sampler, or a software sampler using samples converted from your cds. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 10:53:25 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:53:16 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:53:06 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.97.121]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030116155301.ZTYS12483.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:53:01 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c2bd76$d3f90c60$7961580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:49:16 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2BD4C.EA6A62C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2BD4C.EA6A62C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Thanks for the quick replies. We all know that Windows 95/98 won't = recognize the S760, but I wonder if anyone has tried recognizing it with = Windows XP. I think eventually, I'll run out and get a Zip750. Of = course, it will be formatted as 600MB, but it's a lot more memory than = 100MB. With the price of old Apple laptops falling on Ebay, maybe I'll = get some kind of audio/sampler editing program, fit it with a huge hard = drive, and have all of my samples on there. Imagine having a 160GB hard = drive with all of your Roland samples. For the meantime, I'm glad to see that Roland allowed us to daisy chain = up to seven drives. If we took advantage of that, we'd have roughly 3.6 = GB to work with!=20 Later, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Francois Rossi To: Harold Everton, Jr. Cc: Sgroup Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:44 AM Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I >=20 > > Our hard drive limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs > > usually exceed or max out at 600MB+. >=20 > Roland CDs are 600 max, not 650. >=20 > > what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive space. >=20 > Use scsi and connect several drives, daisy chained. You can buy 1Gb = units > very cheaply these days. Personally, I've got two and a cd player. The = cd > contains whatever I need at the time, drive 1 contains 600Mb of my = favourite > banks, and drive 2 is used for work in progress and burning to cd. >=20 > > How are you all cataloging your samples? >=20 > CDxtract. Best sample cataloguing utility there is. >=20 > >I'd love to just have everything on one hard drive... >=20 > For that, you need a new Akai or E-Mu sampler, or a software sampler = using > samples converted from your cds. >=20 > Francois >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2BD4C.EA6A62C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
Thanks for the quick replies. We all = know that=20 Windows 95/98 won't recognize the S760, but I wonder if anyone has tried = recognizing it with Windows XP. I think eventually, I'll run out and get = a=20 Zip750. Of course, it will be formatted as 600MB, but it's a lot more = memory=20 than 100MB. With the price of old Apple laptops falling on Ebay, maybe = I'll get=20 some kind of audio/sampler editing program, fit it with a huge hard = drive, and=20 have all of my samples on there. Imagine having a 160GB hard drive with = all of=20 your Roland samples.
 
For the meantime, I'm glad to see that = Roland=20 allowed us to daisy chain up to seven drives. If we took advantage of = that, we'd=20 have roughly 3.6 GB to work with!
 
Later,
Harold
 
 
 
 
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To: Harold Everton, Jr. <evertonrecords@worldnet.a= tt.net>
Cc: Sgroup <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:44=20 AM
Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga = Part=20 I

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> > Our hard = drive limit=20 is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs
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> Roland CDs are 600 max, not 650.
> =
> >=20 what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive space.
> =
>=20 Use scsi and connect several drives, daisy chained. You can buy 1Gb=20 units
> very cheaply these days. Personally, I've got two and a cd = player.=20 The cd
> contains whatever I need at the time, drive 1 contains = 600Mb of=20 my favourite
> banks, and drive 2 is used for work in progress and = burning=20 to cd.
>
> > How are you all cataloging your = samples?
>=20
> CDxtract. Best sample cataloguing utility there is.
> =
>=20 >I'd love to just have everything on one hard drive...
> =
> For=20 that, you need a new Akai or E-Mu sampler, or a software sampler = using
>=20 samples converted from your cds.
>
> Francois
> =
>=20
>
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>
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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2BD4C.EA6A62C0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 10:57:33 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:57:26 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:57:19 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:50:10 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C75@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:50:08 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Harold!, >My question is, what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I have a >Zip100MB which seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but gets used up quickly!. Most of the samples that I create aren't that memory intensive so I'm currently using a Zip100 drive like you and that does me fine. >...do you all use your Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and then load them in via SCSI. I don't own a Mac or a PC (Gasp!) so that's a "No". My trusty old Atari STe does all of the sequencing/editing side of things. Regards Steven IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither Brother International Europe Ltd nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). If you believe you have received this communication in error, please return it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then delete the email and destroy any copies of it. We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:11:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:11:33 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:11:18 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:10:34 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1563@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:10:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk OK, now I've started wondering... Currently I save my S760 samples on floppy disk. I have a 100 MB Zip drive but haven't hooked it up yet to try it. If I invest in a SCSI hard drive (something around 650 MB) would there be an advantage in speed over upgrading and using a new Zip750? The zip seems messy but at least it can use the cartridges so it increases the storage. What's the trade-off? If the hard drive is the way, then can anyone recommend a brand/model/size? thanks --- > > what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive space. > > Use scsi and connect several drives, daisy chained. You can buy 1Gb units > very cheaply these days. Personally, I've got two and a cd player. The cd > contains whatever I need at the time, drive 1 contains 600Mb of my favourite > banks, and drive 2 is used for work in progress and burning to cd. > > > How are you all cataloging your samples? > > CDxtract. Best sample cataloguing utility there is. > > >I'd love to just have everything on one hard drive... > > For that, you need a new Akai or E-Mu sampler, or a software sampler using > samples converted from your cds. > > Francois > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:16:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:16:30 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:16:24 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.66]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030116151101.YOCC3410.mail@[208.138.28.66]>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:11:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1563@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> References: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1563@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:16:17 -0500 To: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:10 AM -0500 16/1/2003, Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca wrote: >OK, now I've started wondering... > >Currently I save my S760 samples on floppy disk. I have a 100 MB Zip drive >but haven't hooked it up yet to try it. > >If I invest in a SCSI hard drive (something around 650 MB) would there be an >advantage in speed over upgrading and using a new Zip750? The zip seems >messy but at least it can use the cartridges so it increases the storage. >What's the trade-off? > >If the hard drive is the way, then can anyone recommend a brand/model/size? > >thanks is anyone using a zip 750 with their roland sampler? I think you need to make sure the zip750 will work with the roland. although I see no reason why it shouldn't. my 250 works fine.. to me hard drives around that size are so much cheaper... you can pick them off of ebay for $20..... personally I like IBM drives, any 50 pin ibm. they are quieter than quantums which I use to use before. but I imagine seagate etc will also have great drives that work with it. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:18:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:17:59 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f77.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.77]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:17:43 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:17:41 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:17:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:17:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 16:17:41.0506 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB58F620:01C2BD7A] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I know nothing of the Atari, but all and all, so glad to see it alive still for so many music applications. >From: Steven Downhill >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:50:08 -0500 > >Hi Harold!, > > >My question is, what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive >space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I have a >Zip100MB which >seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but gets used up quickly!. > >Most of the samples that I create aren't that memory intensive so I'm >currently using a Zip100 drive like you and that does me fine. > > >...do you all use your Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and then load >them in via SCSI. > >I don't own a Mac or a PC (Gasp!) so that's a "No". > >My trusty old Atari STe does all of the sequencing/editing side of things. > >Regards >Steven > > > > > >IMPORTANT NOTICE >The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use >of >the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please >note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or >the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > >Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither >Brother International Europe Ltd >nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your >responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). > >If you believe you have received this communication in error, please return >it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then delete the email >and destroy any copies of it. >We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to >ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk > >Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:22:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:22:43 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:22:39 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:15:03 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C76@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:15:02 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Personally (as you've mentioned) I would stick with a ZIP drive as if you run out of space then you can just take the full disk out and put a new one in. It saves you the hassle of buying a new hard drive when the one you're using gets full (or burning the contents of the full hard drive to CD and then re-using it). As for speed advantages/disadvantages... I think that I've read somewhere that there isn't a great deal of difference between a Zip Drive and a Hard Disk. Please correct me if I'm wrong though anyone!. Steven > -----Original Message----- > From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca [SMTP:Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca] > Sent: 16 January 2003 16:11 > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I > > OK, now I've started wondering... > > Currently I save my S760 samples on floppy disk. I have a 100 MB Zip drive > but haven't hooked it up yet to try it. > > If I invest in a SCSI hard drive (something around 650 MB) would there be > an > advantage in speed over upgrading and using a new Zip750? The zip seems > messy but at least it can use the cartridges so it increases the storage. > What's the trade-off? > > If the hard drive is the way, then can anyone recommend a > brand/model/size? > > thanks > --- > > > what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive space. > > > > Use scsi and connect several drives, daisy chained. You can buy 1Gb > units > > very cheaply these days. Personally, I've got two and a cd player. The > cd > > contains whatever I need at the time, drive 1 contains 600Mb of my > favourite > > banks, and drive 2 is used for work in progress and burning to cd. > > > > > How are you all cataloging your samples? > > > > CDxtract. Best sample cataloguing utility there is. > > > > >I'd love to just have everything on one hard drive... > > > > For that, you need a new Akai or E-Mu sampler, or a software sampler > using > > samples converted from your cds. > > > > Francois > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:27:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193739-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:27:41 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:27:38 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZCn1-000LoL-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:22:47 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:28:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <001d01c2bd76$d3f90c60$7961580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >We all know that Windows 95/98 won't recognize the S760, >but I wonder if anyone has tried recognizing it with Windows XP. The filing system used by the Roland OS is different from that used by Windows so no version whether 3.1 or XP will see your Roland. I would even add that you'll have to be careful when connecting your Roland formatted drive to Windows. Click 'no' when Windows offers to recognise the drive as it would install codes on the MBR and your Roland drive would become a Windows drive, i.e. bye-bye banks. >With the price of old Apple laptops falling on Ebay >...and have all of my samples on there. I'll repeat myself, it is impossible to have Roland samples ready to use on a Mac or PC. You could have the raw samples installed on your PC/Mac drive as WAV or AIFF, and send them to the Roland via SMDI, but you would have to reprogram the banks. Not my idea of fun! To recap, you can only use a PC/Mac to catalogue samples on CD-ROM or hard drives, or save/edit banks info with a librarian like SoundDiver (PC/Mac) or Samplifier (Mac). But you cannot use a PC or Mac to save ready to use Roland banks (samples + banks). Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:34:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:34:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f201.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.201]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:34:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:34:05 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.105 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:34:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.105] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:34:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 16:34:05.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[15C0E540:01C2BD7D] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I'll repeat myself, it is impossible to have Roland samples ready to use on >a Mac or PC. You could have the raw samples installed on your PC/Mac drive >as WAV or AIFF, and send them to the Roland via SMDI, but you would have to >reprogram the banks. Not my idea of fun! Yes, per my previous comment. As a Mac user, I have used various programs with ease (SoundHack, SoundApp, Alchemy, ModVoicer, Wavicle, etc) to convert sounds and crossplatform samples (i.e. TX16W to AIFF), modify sample rates, etc and then use SDS via Alchemy to send the S550. Works like a charm, but slow. SoundHack is a wonderful program! _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:35:09 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193746-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:34:58 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:34:50 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZCtz-000NhL-00; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:30:00 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: Cc: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:35:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1563@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >If I invest in a SCSI hard drive (something around 650 MB) would there be an >advantage in speed over upgrading and using a new Zip750? Yes. Loading the Roland OS from hard disk is extremely fast. >What's the trade-off? Once you're reached your hard drive limit, that's it. With Zip, you could have many disks amounting to much more than 600Mb. > If the hard drive is the way, then can anyone recommend > a brand/model/size? You'll have difficulties finding a 650Mb scsi drives. A few Apple Mac came with that size but they are rare. More common are 540Mb and 1Gb drives. Conner and IBM are recommended because they were slightly faster. You might as well get a 1Gb since it'll be another $5 on eBay. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:35:20 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193746-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:35:17 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-19993>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:35:01 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:34:11 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1564@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup 760 (Drive Space Saga Part I) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:34:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk (S760 thread) Steve Downhill wrote: >Personally (as you've mentioned) I would stick with a ZIP >drive as if you >run out of space then you can just take the full disk out and >put a new one in. >It saves you the hassle of buying a new hard drive when the >one you're using >gets full Richard Sven Patterson wrote: >>to me hard drives around that size are so much cheaper... you can >>pick them off of ebay for $20..... Well considering that Zip disks are (around here) more expensive than $20, the hard drive starts to look good. When its full, pull it off and stick on another??? Any comments?!? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:36:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193752-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:36:44 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193746-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:36:34 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.66]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030116153106.YVKV3410.mail@[208.138.28.66]>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:31:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C76@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> References: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C76@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:36:08 -0500 To: Steven Downhill , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:15 AM -0500 16/1/2003, Steven Downhill wrote: >Personally (as you've mentioned) I would stick with a ZIP drive as if you >run out of space then you can just take the full disk out and >put a new one in. >It saves you the hassle of buying a new hard drive when the one you're using >gets full (or burning the contents of the full hard drive to CD and then >re-using it). > >As for speed advantages/disadvantages... I think that I've read somewhere >that there isn't a great deal of difference between a Zip Drive and a Hard >Disk. Please correct me if I'm wrong though anyone!. > >Steven my hard drives are faster than my zips. but no so much that it is a major deterrent.... I personally have my system set up with three cdroms, two hard drives and one zip.....the zip is used for customised samples for projects, recycled loops etc. I like having a hard drive with samples that I can always have access to rather than having to go find a cdrom that they are on etc. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:37:41 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193752-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:37:31 -0500 Received: from sirppi.helsinki.fi ([128.214.205.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193762-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:37:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by sirppi.helsinki.fi (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id h0GGbKn06321 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:37:21 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: sirppi.helsinki.fi: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:37:20 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I In-Reply-To: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C76@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C76@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Steven Downhill wrote: > As for speed advantages/disadvantages... I think that I've read > somewhere that there isn't a great deal of difference between a Zip > Drive and a Hard Disk. In my experience the ZIP 100MB is slower than my 1MB IBM SCSI drive. But the ZIP drive is more silent. And it goes to sleep when idle so there is not this constant whirling sound from the spinning hard disk. jp -- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:40:43 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:40:34 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:40:31 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.66]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030116153505.YWVI3410.mail@[208.138.28.66]>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:35:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1564@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> References: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1564@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:40:18 -0500 To: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: RE: sgroup 760 (Drive Space Saga Part I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:34 AM -0500 16/1/2003, Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca wrote: >(S760 thread) > >Steve Downhill wrote: > >>Personally (as you've mentioned) I would stick with a ZIP >>drive as if you >>run out of space then you can just take the full disk out and >>put a new one in. >>It saves you the hassle of buying a new hard drive when the >>one you're using >>gets full > >Richard Sven Patterson wrote: > >>>to me hard drives around that size are so much cheaper... you can >>>pick them off of ebay for $20..... > >Well considering that Zip disks are (around here) more expensive than $20, >the hard drive starts to look good. When its full, pull it off and stick on >another??? > >Any comments?!? :-) no, at $20 buy more than one of them..... and when one is full start using the other. remember scsi allows seven units AND the sampler on the chain. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:42:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193747-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:42:41 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:42:29 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.66]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030116153704.YXOO3410.mail@[208.138.28.66]>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:37:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:42:19 -0500 To: "Francois Rossi" , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Cc: "Sgroup" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:35 AM -0500 16/1/2003, Francois Rossi wrote: > >If I invest in a SCSI hard drive (something around 650 MB) would there be >an >>advantage in speed over upgrading and using a new Zip750? > >Yes. Loading the Roland OS from hard disk is extremely fast. I agree wholeheartedly.... running the OS from the hard disk is really fast, and I guess you would have to save it onto every zip disk you plan to use with it.... but my suggestion still is buy more than one hard drive....1GB is my suggestion too....make sure it is 50 pin... and later on you can always add teh zip 750 when you can afford it. rsp > >>What's the trade-off? > >Once you're reached your hard drive limit, that's it. With Zip, you could >have many disks amounting to much more than 600Mb. > >> If the hard drive is the way, then can anyone recommend >> a brand/model/size? > >You'll have difficulties finding a 650Mb scsi drives. A few Apple Mac came >with that size but they are rare. More common are 540Mb and 1Gb drives. >Conner and IBM are recommended because they were slightly faster. You might >as well get a 1Gb since it'll be another $5 on eBay. > >Francois > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:46:35 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:46:26 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:46:20 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:46:15 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:46:01 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:46:01 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0C56@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Thread-Index: AcK9flktuQXi7FcbQ6SNl1pZHGr/QwAAGpBQ From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Sgroup" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 16:46:01.0650 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0B65920:01C2BD7E] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >If I invest in a SCSI hard drive (something around 650 MB) would there = be >an advantage in speed over upgrading and using a new Zip750? Everybody talks about the small space on ZIP100 and the high price of = the ZIP750. Wake up! There is also the ZIP250 that has 2.5 times more space than the = ZIP100 and is nearly as cheap as the ZIP100! My S-760 has a ZIP250 and is my boot device... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). 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If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:49:38 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:49:31 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:49:16 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZD7x-0001qC-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:44:25 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup 760 (Drive Space Saga Part I) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:50:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1564@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Steve Downhill wrote: >Well considering that Zip disks are (around here) more expensive than $20, >the hard drive starts to look good. When its full, pull it off and stick on >another??? Exactly. What I did is buy an external double scsi enclosure, and I fitted two removable trays but purchased five. So I have two drives permanently in, but three others ready to be inserted since they are cased in the same removable tray. I only use two with the S-760, and the others with my E-Mu E4. Given a fair budget, you could buy an enclosure with four bays, or seven even, and get lots of caddies to swap drives. I still have an external zip 100 drive but I haven't used it in a long time. One thing for it though, they take less space than a stack of hard drives. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:53:58 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:53:48 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19992>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:53:42 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZDCC-0002l6-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:48:48 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >But the ZIP drive is more silent. And it goes to sleep when idle so there >is not this constant whirling sound from the spinning hard disk. Ah! I recommend using a hard drive silencer like Molex SlientSleeves. I have installed one in my E4K recently, and the whine has disappeared altogether. The only problem is that I had to make a custom bracket to fit the drive and sleeve as the latter added thickness. But I'm so happy not to hear my E-Mu anylonger that I will probably buy other sleeves for the drives I use with the Roland. They cost 27 UK pounds each. Not cheap, but your ears will thank you! If you need info on the Molex sleeve, you can go to www.quietpc.com. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:55:10 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:55:08 -0500 Received: from siaag2af.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.136]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:54:52 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2af.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id LAA27676 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:54:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:53:58 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup zip 750 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301161154_MC3-1-2517-DCF@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Zip750 are USB, not SCSI. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:56:44 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:56:34 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:56:24 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZDEp-0003YJ-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:51:31 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:57:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >...make sure it is 50 pin... In terms of 540Mb or 1Gb drives, it's very likely they'll be 50-pin. In any case, there are cheap converters that enable you to use a 68-pin drive with a 50-pin ribbon cable. My E-Mu drive is a 18Gb 68-pin connected to the 50-pin cable by that mean. Are we having a email flood today or what! Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 11:57:26 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:57:17 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:57:11 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:50:04 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C78@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup 760 (Drive Space Saga Part I) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:50:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk It seems like quite a few of you are suggesting buying cheap hard drives from e-bay. Don't get me wrong I'm all for cheap solutions but personally I'd be wary of using something second hand to store my samples on. After all you don't know if it's been dropped and it's heads are damaged or it's getting to the point of being worn out. It seems to me that there are pros and cons for either format and you should use what you can afford and what's best for you. For me that's a Zip100. Steven IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither Brother International Europe Ltd nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). 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We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 12:05:25 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193761-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:05:17 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:05:06 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.66]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030116155946.ZGGF3410.mail@[208.138.28.66]> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:59:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200301161154_MC3-1-2517-DCF@compuserve.com> References: <200301161154_MC3-1-2517-DCF@compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:04:59 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup zip 750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:53 AM -0500 16/1/2003, dennis barton wrote: >Zip750 are USB, not SCSI. > rofl..ok that brings the argument to an abrupt end ...lol.... rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 12:05:26 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:05:17 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:05:06 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.66]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030116155944.ZGFX3410.mail@[208.138.28.66]> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:59:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C78@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> References: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C78@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:04:22 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: RE: sgroup 760 (Drive Space Saga Part I) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:50 AM -0500 16/1/2003, Steven Downhill wrote: >It seems like quite a few of you are suggesting buying cheap hard drives >from e-bay. >Don't get me wrong I'm all for cheap solutions but personally I'd be wary of >using something second hand to store my samples on. >After all you don't know if it's been dropped and it's heads are damaged or >it's getting to the point of being worn out. > >It seems to me that there are pros and cons for either format and you should >use what you can afford and what's best for you. >For me that's a Zip100. > >Steven > you do know you can buy brand new hard drives off ebay cheaply...also brand new zip250's from ebay, which is actually where I bought mine. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 12:06:57 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:06:52 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:06:36 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.66]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030116160109.ZGSD3410.mail@[208.138.28.66]>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:01:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:06:25 -0500 To: "Francois Rossi" , "Sgroup" From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:57 AM -0500 16/1/2003, Francois Rossi wrote: > >...make sure it is 50 pin... > >In terms of 540Mb or 1Gb drives, it's very likely they'll be 50-pin. In any >case, there are cheap converters that enable you to use a 68-pin drive with >a 50-pin ribbon cable. My E-Mu drive is a 18Gb 68-pin connected to the >50-pin cable by that mean. > >Are we having a email flood today or what! lol yes... I guess I for one am online waiting to hear announcements from NAMM.. yes converters are available, how cheap are those converters? I thought about $20....almost as much as the drive itself. >Francois > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 12:10:09 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:09:59 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:09:56 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZDRs-0007FW-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:05:00 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:10:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >yes converters are available, how cheap are those converters? I >thought about $20....almost as much as the drive itself. 6UK pounds or $10 on eBay. Plus shipping. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 12:43:34 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:43:30 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:43:15 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.86.25]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030116174308.ELBK9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:43:08 +0000 Message-ID: <006001c2bd86$36a14080$1956580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:39:24 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01C2BD5C.4D141D80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C2BD5C.4D141D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Again, Well, I guess I do know how to start a discussion! Actually, an SCSI Zip = 750 is in the works (at least this is what the folks at Data Vision and = Comp USA are discussing). I can't imagine anyone still using = non-removable hard drives and floppies to save their data anymore, = considering that Zip drives are so cheap. I bought my Zip 100 almost two = years ago for just $30 off ebay. And mine came with 5 blank Zip Disks. I never meant that you could directly transfer files from your S760 to = computer as the Roland format is proprietary. I know that the XV5080 = uses DOS, but even that one is still not recommended to be hooked up = directly to your computer. Windows 3.1 actually could communicate with = the S760, via an editor. Besides, many of you here have talked about the = Roland S760 being supported by reCycle (on the PC) up until version 1.7. = There is literature on the web that discusses using your S760 with a PC, = but most of that stuff is at least 7 + years old. I would like to use my PC to do this, but as many of you have said, this = is impossible because of a feature that appeared in Windows 95, that = Roland had no intention of supporting, or supplying us with a driver = that would allow communication. I guess this is where Chickensys translator comes in. The Zip 250 may appear in my setup somewhere down the road. On a side note, a friend of mine down the block (who has a lot more $$ = than I do), recently bought a LCD monitor with S-Video input. His setup = looks so contemporary. He has the RC-100 controller, a black SCSI CD = ROM. The CD ROM is located underneath his desk, with his Zip100 located = right next to the RC-100 (think of your PCs tower next to your computer = keyboard), with the flat screen directly in front and the mouse off to = the side. The S760 itself is tucked away in a rack underneath his desk. = You'd swear you were using another computer or a Gigasampler or = something. The minute I get a picture I have to show you. his setup = looks so great! Take Care, Harold Everton, Jr. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Francois Rossi To: Sgroup Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:10 PM Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I >=20 > >yes converters are available, how cheap are those converters? I=20 > >thought about $20....almost as much as the drive itself. >=20 > 6UK pounds or $10 on eBay. Plus shipping. >=20 > Francois >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C2BD5C.4D141D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Again,
 
Well, I guess I do know how to start a = discussion!=20 Actually, an SCSI Zip 750 is in the works (at least this is what the = folks at=20 Data Vision and Comp USA are discussing). I can't imagine anyone still = using=20 non-removable hard drives and floppies to save their data anymore, = considering=20 that Zip drives are so cheap. I bought my Zip 100 almost two years ago = for just=20 $30 off ebay. And mine came with 5 blank Zip Disks.
 
I never meant that you could directly = transfer=20 files from your S760 to computer as the Roland format is proprietary. I = know=20 that the XV5080 uses DOS, but even that one is still not recommended to = be=20 hooked up directly to your computer. Windows 3.1 actually could = communicate with=20 the S760, via an editor. Besides, many of you here have talked about the = Roland=20 S760 being supported by reCycle (on the PC) up until version 1.7. There = is=20 literature on the web that discusses using your S760 with a PC, but most = of that=20 stuff is at least 7 + years old.
 
I would like to use my PC to do this, = but as many=20 of you have said, this is impossible because of a feature that appeared = in=20 Windows 95, that Roland had no intention of supporting, or supplying us = with a=20 driver that would allow communication.
 
I guess this is where Chickensys = translator comes=20 in.
 
The Zip 250 may appear in my setup = somewhere down=20 the road.
 
On a side note, a friend of mine down = the block=20 (who has a lot more $$ than I do), recently bought a LCD monitor with = S-Video=20 input. His setup looks so contemporary. He has the RC-100 controller, a = black=20 SCSI CD ROM. The CD ROM is located underneath his desk, with his Zip100 = located=20 right next to the RC-100 (think of your PCs tower next to your computer=20 keyboard), with the flat screen directly in front and the mouse off to = the side.=20 The S760 itself is tucked away in a rack underneath his desk. You'd = swear you=20 were using another computer or a Gigasampler or something. The minute I = get a=20 picture I have to show you. his setup looks so great!
 
Take Care,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Francois Rossi <francois@chezrossi.net>
To: Sgroup <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:10=20 PM
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>
> >yes = converters are=20 available, how cheap are those converters? I
> >thought about=20 $20....almost as much as the drive itself.
>
> 6UK pounds = or $10 on=20 eBay. Plus shipping.
>
> Francois
>
>
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>
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------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C2BD5C.4D141D80-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 12:58:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:58:51 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:58:41 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZEGG-000F7v-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:57:04 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:59:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <006001c2bd86$36a14080$1956580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > recently bought a LCD monitor with S-Video input... Stop it, you make me salivate and my birthday is 9 months away! Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 13:02:54 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:02:51 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f61.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.61]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:02:41 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:02:39 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.105 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:02:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.105] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Setups (was: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:02:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 18:02:39.0677 (UTC) FILETIME=[755996D0:01C2BD89] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks for the info, Harold, and yes...please post a pic. I always like to get ideas for ergonomics (some of you have seen my current studio setup), as I hope to build a space in my unfinished section of my basement.... D >On a side note, a friend of mine down the block (who has a lot more $$ than >I do), recently bought a LCD monitor with S-Video input. His setup looks so >contemporary. He has the RC-100 controller, a black SCSI CD ROM. The CD ROM >is located underneath his desk, with his Zip100 located right next to the >RC-100 (think of your PCs tower next to your computer keyboard), with the >flat screen directly in front and the mouse off to the side. The S760 >itself is tucked away in a rack underneath his desk. You'd swear you were >using another computer or a Gigasampler or something. The minute I get a >picture I have to show you. his setup looks so great! > >Take Care, >Harold Everton, Jr. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 13:45:16 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:45:09 -0500 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.42]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:44:59 -0500 Received: from CCartCat@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.106.1e614296 (18403) for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:44:08 -0500 (EST) From: CCartCat@aol.com Message-ID: <106.1e614296.2b585777@aol.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:44:07 -0500 Subject: sgroup W30 SCSI chip To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh OS X US sub 21 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk All the talk of Zip and hard drives got me thinking . . . The SCSI chip for the W30 was made by Toshiba--anyone know/remember the chip number and whether's it's availiable (the chip itself, not the orig. Roland upgrade)? K. Seward - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 13:52:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:52:30 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f59.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.59]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:52:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:52:13 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:52:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "gtrplaya !" To: CCartCat@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup W30 SCSI chip Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:52:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 18:52:13.0518 (UTC) FILETIME=[61E5B6E0:01C2BD90] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is from the W30 FAQ page: http://www.c-trl.com/w30/w30faq.html "!!! NEW !!! There is also another chip you can insert in your W30 to get the SCSI device working. I'm not sure if you can buy this chip easely, but ask for it at your local electronical store or contact Fujitsu UK where this deal was closed. Its the the FujitsuMB89352AP. More precise 'name' to the chip that can be used to replace Rolands KW-30 chip is 'Sharp genuine MB89352 SCSI host adaptor'. The fellow who tested this didn't get it to work with the W30HDCD for PC, so I put a new version online, but it did work with the W30HDCD for the Apple MAC, but try it yourself" Hope that helps >From: CCartCat@aol.com >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: sgroup W30 SCSI chip >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:44:07 -0500 > >All the talk of Zip and hard drives got me thinking . . . > >The SCSI chip for the W30 was made by Toshiba--anyone know/remember the >chip >number and whether's it's availiable (the chip itself, not the orig. Roland >upgrade)? > >K. Seward > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 15:15:55 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:15:47 -0500 Received: from mx1.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.114]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:15:36 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:15:32 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:15:32 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: sgroup W30 SCSI chip Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:15:31 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764CC42A@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup W30 SCSI chip Thread-Index: AcK9kHkgPb6GjmEhTVGWS9JMejKLeAACanv9 From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "gtrplaya !" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jan 2003 20:15:32.0148 (UTC) FILETIME=[05501F40:01C2BD9C] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk SGkhDQoNCgk+VGhlcmUgaXMgYWxzMW8gYW5vdGhlciBjaGlwIHlvdSBjYW4gaW5zZXJ0IGluIHlv dXIgVzMwIHRvIGdldCB0aGUgU0NTSQ0KPmRldmljZSB3b3JraW5nLg0KCT5JJ20gbm90IHN1cmUg aWYgeW91IGNhbiBidXkgdGhpcyBjaGlwIGVhc2VseSwgYnV0IGFzayBmb3IgaXQgYXQgeW91cg0K bG9jYWwNCgk+ZWxlY3Ryb25pY2FsIHN0b3JlIG9yIGNvbnRhY3QgRnVqaXRzdSBVSyB3aGVyZSB0 aGlzIGRlYWwgd2FzIGNsb3NlZC4NCgk+SXRzIHRoZSB0aGUgRnVqaXRzdU1CODkzNTJBUC4NCg0K CVRoZSBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiBhYm91dCB0aGVzZSBjaGlwcyBhcmUgT0sgYnV0IHRoZXkgYXJlIHZl cnkgaGFyZCB0byBmaW5kDQotIHdvcmxkd2lkZSEgWW91IG1heSBoYXZlIGEgY2hhbmNlIHRvIGZp bmQgdGhlbSBzb2xkZWQgaW4gdmVyeSBvbGQgU0NTSSBhZGFwdGVyDQpjYXJkcyAoOCBiaXQgSVNB IGNhcmRzIGZvciBleGFtcGxlKS4gSSBoYXZlIGFib3V0IDMwIG9yIDQwIGNhcmRzIG9mIHRoYXQg dGltZQ0KYnV0IG5vdCBvbmUgd2l0aCB0aGlzIGNoaXAuDQoNCglUaGUgbmV4dCBwcm9ibGVtIGlz IHRoYXQgd2hlbiB5b3Ugd2FudCB0byB1c2UgYW4gY2Ryb20gZHJpdmUgeW91IGhhdmUgdG8NCmZp bmQgc3BlY2lhbCBkcml2ZXMgYXMgdGhlIFJvbGFuZCBzYW1wbGVycyBvbmx5IHJlY29nbml6ZSBh IGZldyB0eXBlcy4NCg0KCUkgd2FzIGxvb2tpbmcgZm9yIGFib3V0IDMgeWVhcnMgdG8gZmluZCBh IGRyaXZlIGFuZCB0aGVuIGZpbmQgdHdvIGluIHRoZQ0KVW5pdGVkIFN0YXRlcy4gT25lIGlzIHRo ZSBvcmlnaW5hbCBDRC01IGZyb20gUm9sYW5kLiBJIGFtIG5vdCB1c2luZyB0aGlzIG9uZSBhcw0K aXQgY2FuIG9ubHkgcmVhZCBvcmlnaW5hbCBDRHMgLSBpdCBjYW4ndCByZWFkIGNkcm9tIG1lZGlh cyA6LSgNCg0KCVRoZSBvdGhlciBpcyBhbiBvbGQgU29ueSBkcml2ZSB0aGF0cyB3b3JrcyBwZXJm ZWN0bHkhDQoNCglDaWFvDQoNCglQZXRlcg0KDQoJaHR0cDovL3VsbHJpY2guYXQudHQNCg0K - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 20:36:47 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:36:39 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22218>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:36:28 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0H1aKi74205 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:36:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au ([203.25.148.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:31:31 -0500 Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id h0H0VOKR002846 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:31:25 +1100 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.254] (ppp105.adsl89.pacific.net.au [202.7.89.105]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id LAA13591 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:31:24 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:31:23 -0500 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Message-ID: <347705544.1042803083@[192.168.0.11]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jussi Piekkala wrote: > Steven Downhill wrote: > > As for speed advantages/disadvantages... I think that I've read > > somewhere that there isn't a great deal of difference between a Zip > > Drive and a Hard Disk. > > In my experience the ZIP 100MB is slower than my 1MB IBM SCSI drive. That's my experience also, but I'd hope that the newer Zip drives (like the 250MB) are faster. I basically retired my Zip drive a few years ago, partly because of the lack of speed, and partly because I was worried about the infamous "click of death". Yes - some of my data did appear to be affected by this. Francois Rossi wrote: > Exactly. What I did is buy an external double scsi enclosure, and I fitted > two removable trays but purchased five. So I have two drives permanently > in, but three others ready to be inserted since they are cased in the same > removable tray. But this discussion has just coincided with something I've been doing the last few evenings. I've just built a SCSI disk enclosure out of the carcass of an old PC. It currently contains 2 x 1GB disks and 1 x 510MB disk. But unlike some others here, I don't have a large sample library on CD-ROM, and so I expect these disks to cover all my needs. If not, I still have a couple of spares lying around. Unfortunately, of those the spare 1GB disk is very old, and very, very noisy. We've called it the jet engine drive due to the noise it makes spinning up. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 16 20:56:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:56:02 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18351>; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:55:46 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZLhs-000ATy-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:54:04 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:56:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <347705544.1042803083@[192.168.0.11]> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > I basically retired my Zip drive a few years >ago, partly because of the lack of speed, and partly > because I was worried about the infamous "click of death". The first Zip 100 I bought (scsi) suffered from that. Iomega sent me a replacement and I've never had any problem since. Although I don't use it for sampling, it's still my tool of choice to transfer data between my PC and my Mac. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 05:01:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:01:42 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:01:36 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:01:25 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:01:25 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Disposition-Notification-To: "Ullrich Peter" Subject: sgroup OT: Roland A-880 Manual Online for a short time! Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 05:01:24 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0C66@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AW: AW: Roland A-880 Manual! Thread-Index: AcK9pDvnQnh/bGrHQSqqJJlKBBvCaAAZVO5g X-Priority: 1 Importance: high From: "Ullrich Peter" To: , , , "Roland S760 List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 10:01:25.0253 (UTC) FILETIME=[6543E350:01C2BE0F] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! I scanned and made a PDF of the Roland A-880 MIDI-patcher user manual. It will be online online for a few days - so hurry up! http://home.pages.at/pullrich/docs/roland_a880_manual.htm Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 09:13:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193727-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:55 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:46 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 363DD16000699 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:12:41 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2BE32.82B72C80" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000a01c2bd73$da73b520$8b51580c@epu1> x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2BE32.82B72C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have none of these limitations with my current sampler as it reads Akai S1000-3000 discs natively with no conversion and can load the AKAI.s/AIF.aif/WAV.wav/SOUNDFONT.sf files directly in addition to its own format by simply dragging/dropping with the MS Intellimouse Explorer navigating a modern interface on my 21" Eizo that doesn't look like it came from a Sinclair Spectrum...:-) It can use all 2GB of my PC RAM and nearly half-a-terabyte of HDD storage space, 3 x CD-ROM, 1 x DVD , 1 x ZIP250 drives and anything else I care to plug into my system. Sounds great, has wonderful routing possibilities that simply require a point & click to route from destination->source, digital SP/DIF I/O, analogue I/O (on real 1/4" Jacks), MIDI & further expansion possibilities etc. etc. Takes up no rack space (nor does it require a mains lead) and hopefully when I get round to using Translator properly I will be able to translate all my Roland Library to Akai.s format. Its better than having a 'real' sampler inside your PC as you are able to do real-time effects, use it as a mixer, synthesizer, vocoder and so much more. When I hit the limit of the onboard 3 SHARC DSP chips I can add another card and chain them internally using its own bus - various options include 4/6/15 DSP cards. It can be seamlessly integrated into any sequencer using ASIO and gives full access to its own DSP effects, mixers, synths, samplers etc. etc. It also comes with MME/WAV/GSIF drivers. I am still learning about the capabilities of the card but thus far you may have noticed that I am impressed! What is it? It's the Creamware PowerSampler PCI card I bought for £150 - used but boxed and in excellent condition with all the bits. Having said that I do miss the 1U S760 in my rack - and my interest has just been rekindled by Francois Rossi's excellent website. Don't think that will stop me selling my last S760 though :-( Regards, -=Glyn=- -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: 16 January 2003 15:28 To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Hey Everyone, A long time ago when the Roland S760 debuted, 2MB was a considerably large amount of memory for PCs and 40MB was the standard size of all hard drives (more or less). We live in radically different times now. Our hard drive limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs usually exceed or max out at 600MB+. My question is, what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I have a Zip100MB which seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but gets used up quickly! I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six months ago, but even if we got those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB anyway. In these days of 3.1 Ghz PCs and 160GB hard drives, do you all use your Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and then load them in via SCSI. There always has to be a headache. For me, it's loading in a CD everytime I need to use it. I'd love to just have everything on one hard drive, cataloged with a librarian program so if say a client comes to the studio, I could call up all of my drum kits, all of my guitars, etc, and then just load them in. This is similar to how David Newman files his stuff as indicated in the famous December 2000 issue of Keyboard Magazine (remember his 26 stacked S760 samplers?). For those who are upgrading to XV5080s, this is no issue as it can communicate directly with the PC via SCSI, and, I think it can use drives up to 256GB. Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2BE32.82B72C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have=20 none of these limitations with my current sampler as it reads Akai = S1000-3000=20 discs natively with no conversion and can load the=20 AKAI.s/AIF.aif/WAV.wav/SOUNDFONT.sf  files directly in addition to = its=20 own format by simply dragging/dropping with the MS Intellimouse=20 Explorer navigating a modern interface on my 21" Eizo that doesn't = look=20 like it came from a Sinclair Spectrum...:-)
 
It can=20 use all 2GB of my PC RAM and nearly half-a-terabyte of HDD storage = space, 3=20 x CD-ROM, 1 x DVD , 1 x ZIP250 drives and anything else I care to = plug into=20 my system.
 
Sounds=20 great, has wonderful routing possibilities that simply require a point = &=20 click to route from destination->source, digital SP/DIF I/O, = analogue=20 I/O (on real 1/4" Jacks), MIDI & further expansion=20 possibilities etc. etc.
 
Takes=20 up no rack space (nor does it require a mains lead) and hopefully when I = get=20 round to using Translator properly I will be able to translate all my = Roland=20 Library to Akai.s format.
 
Its=20 better than having a 'real' sampler inside your PC as you are able to do = real-time effects, use it as a mixer, synthesizer, vocoder and so much=20 more.
 
When I=20 hit the limit of the onboard 3 SHARC DSP chips I can add = another card and=20 chain them internally using its own bus - various options include 4/6/15 = DSP=20 cards.
 
It can=20 be seamlessly integrated into any sequencer using ASIO and gives = full=20 access to its own DSP effects, mixers, synths, samplers etc.=20 etc.
 
It=20 also comes with MME/WAV/GSIF drivers.
 
I am=20 still learning about the capabilities of the card but thus far you may = have=20 noticed that I am impressed!
 
What=20 is it?
 
It's=20 the Creamware=20 PowerSampler PCI card I bought for =A3150 - used but boxed and in = excellent=20 condition with all the bits.
 
Having=20 said that I do miss the 1U S760 in my rack - and my interest has just = been=20 rekindled by Francois Rossi's excellent website.
 
Don't=20 think that will stop me selling my last S760 though=20 :-(
 
Regards,
-=3DGlyn=3D-
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold = Everton,=20 Jr.
Sent: 16 January 2003 15:28
To:=20 sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca
Subject: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part=20 I

Hey Everyone,
 
A long time ago when the Roland S760 = debuted, 2MB=20 was a considerably large amount of memory for PCs and 40MB was the = standard=20 size of all hard drives (more or less). We live in radically different = times=20 now. Our hard drive limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs usually = exceed=20 or max out at 600MB+.
 
My question is, what are you people = doing when it=20 comes to hard drive space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I = have a=20 Zip100MB which seems like lot when compared to internal memory, = but gets=20 used up quickly! I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six months ago, = but even=20 if we got those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB anyway. =
 
In these days of  3.1 Ghz PCs = and 160GB hard=20 drives, do you all use your Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and = then load=20 them in via SCSI. There always has to be a headache. For me, it's = loading in a=20 CD everytime I need to use it. I'd love to just have everything on one = hard=20 drive, cataloged with a librarian program so if say a client comes to = the=20 studio, I could call up all of my drum kits, all of my guitars, etc, = and then=20 just load them in. This is similar to how David Newman files his stuff = as=20 indicated in the famous December 2000 issue of Keyboard Magazine = (remember his=20 26 stacked S760 samplers?).
 
For those who are upgrading to = XV5080s, this is=20 no issue as it can communicate directly with the PC via SCSI, and, I = think it=20 can use drives up to 256GB.
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2BE32.82B72C80-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 09:13:04 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193726-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:55 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193727-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:47 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6408C160006B4 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:12:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Francois Rossi > Sent: 16 January 2003 16:29 > To: Harold Everton, Jr. > Cc: Sgroup > Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I > > > > >We all know that Windows 95/98 won't recognize the S760, > >but I wonder if anyone has tried recognizing it with Windows XP. > > The filing system used by the Roland OS is different from that used by > Windows so no version whether 3.1 or XP will see your Roland. I would even > add that you'll have to be careful when connecting your Roland formatted > drive to Windows. Click 'no' when Windows offers to recognise the drive as > it would install codes on the MBR and your Roland drive would become a > Windows drive, i.e. bye-bye banks. The filing system on the HD may be different but was Harold referring to actually connecting the S760 itself - not just the HD? I think the issue was with the SCSI drivers on the PC scanning the SCSI bus and the S760 not reporting its info back like other SCSI devices. AFAIK this issue may not affect the Mac which is why you should be able to transfer data to/from the S760 over SCSI on this platform. I recall seeing somewhere that someone 'allegedly' tried using DOS SCSI drivers and had some success on the PC... Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 09:13:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193730-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:53 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193724-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:46 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D77DD1600012D for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:12:41 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: Subject: RE: sgroup sample CDs Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200301152030_MC3-1-24DF-9FFB@compuserve.com> x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Good selection but looking at their GigaPack2 $269.95 - Special Order This disc is available from the makers of the disc www.bestservice.de for 119 Euros and is in stock They also have GigaPack1 for the same price. Regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of dennis barton > Sent: 16 January 2003 01:30 > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: sgroup sample CDs > > > > There's 36 Roland format disks here: > > http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/search.phtml?sampler_type=rola > nd&type=s > amp le_cds_and_cd_roms&sound_category=&*ignore*=FIND+IT%21 > > > |_e_/~ Dennis Barton > ) skylab2000 > ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles > / http://skylab2000.com > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 09:13:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193728-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:58 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193729-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:47 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E72B6160006C1 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:12:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Jussi Piekkala > Sent: 16 January 2003 16:37 > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I > > > Steven Downhill wrote: > > As for speed advantages/disadvantages... I think that I've read > > somewhere that there isn't a great deal of difference between a Zip > > Drive and a Hard Disk. > > In my experience the ZIP 100MB is slower than my 1MB IBM SCSI drive. > > But the ZIP drive is more silent. And it goes to sleep when idle so there > is not this constant whirling sound from the spinning hard disk. Almost the opposite of what I found. The Zip loaded System 2.24 as quick as the HD (never compared loading/saving sounds from it though) and my HD was actually quieter than my Zip! Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 09:13:08 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:53 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193726-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:46 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2668B160006A6 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:12:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup 760 (Drive Space Saga Part I) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Richard Sven Patterson > Sent: 16 January 2003 17:04 > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: RE: sgroup 760 (Drive Space Saga Part I) > > you do know you can buy brand new hard drives off ebay cheaply...also > brand new zip250's from ebay, which is actually where I bought mine. Brand new yes but still no guarantee in many cases as the items are obsolete stock / end of line / limited supply and you usually do not get a purchase receipt from the vendor. Example - I bought 10 Compaq 4.5GB UW SCSI 68 pin drives and one of them failed shortly after. Although brand new I have no recourse to the vendor (private individual) nor will Compaq entertain the thought of warranty replacement as although brand new/sealed etc. they are clearly dated 1999 Not really complaining as they worked out at ?12.50 each anyways...:-) Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 09:13:11 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:57 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193728-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:47 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A486816000696 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:12:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Francois Rossi > Sent: 16 January 2003 16:36 > To: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca > Cc: Sgroup > Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I > > > > >If I invest in a SCSI hard drive (something around 650 MB) would there be > an > >advantage in speed over upgrading and using a new Zip750? > > Yes. Loading the Roland OS from hard disk is extremely fast. I also noticed no difference between loading System 2.24 from either the HD or Zip. Under a second in both cases... Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 09:37:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:37:23 -0500 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:37:19 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A3E1B160018F4 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:37:10 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:37:17 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2BE35.EF590D10" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <006001c2bd86$36a14080$1956580c@epu1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2BE35.EF590D10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: 16 January 2003 17:39 To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I On a side note, a friend of mine down the block (who has a lot more $$ than I do), recently bought a LCD monitor with S-Video input. His setup looks so contemporary. He has the RC-100 controller, a black SCSI CD ROM. The CD ROM is located underneath his desk, with his Zip100 located right next to the RC-100 (think of your PCs tower next to your computer keyboard), with the flat screen directly in front and the mouse off to the side. The S760 itself is tucked away in a rack underneath his desk. You'd swear you were using another computer or a Gigasampler or something. The minute I get a picture I have to show you. his setup looks so great! While I appreciate that using an external monitor is a bonus over the LCD display on the S760 at the end of the day you are still looking at/using an archaic interface that I myself found crude & clumsy with graphics harking back to Sinclair Spectrum days. Even the Roland mouse felt awkward compared to today's offerings. Surely the S760 display could not be compared to using another computer or GigaSampler - could it? The guy who I sold my loaded S760 to yesterday also had the RC100 and I must admit I still like the look of the Roland components in a rack! All that power in 1U of space... Kind regards, -=Glyn=- ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2BE35.EF590D10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold = Everton,=20 Jr.
Sent: 16 January 2003 17:39
To:=20 sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca
Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga = Part=20 I

On a side note, a friend of = mine down the=20 block (who has a lot more $$ than I do), recently bought a LCD monitor = with=20 S-Video input. His setup looks so contemporary. He has the RC-100 = controller,=20 a black SCSI CD ROM. The CD ROM is located underneath his desk, with = his=20 Zip100 located right next to the RC-100 (think of your PCs tower next = to your=20 computer keyboard), with the flat screen directly in front and the = mouse off=20 to the side. The S760 itself is tucked away in a rack underneath his = desk.=20 You'd swear you were using another computer or a Gigasampler or = something. The=20 minute I get a picture I have to show you. his setup looks so = great! 
 
While I appreciate that using an external monitor is a = bonus=20 over the LCD display on the S760 at the end of the day you are still = looking=20 at/using an archaic interface that I myself found crude & clumsy = with=20 graphics harking back to Sinclair Spectrum=20 days.
 
Even the Roland mouse felt awkward compared to today's = offerings.
 
Surely the S760 display could not be compared to using = another=20 computer or GigaSampler - could it?
 
The guy who I sold my loaded S760 to yesterday also = had the=20 RC100 and I must admit I still like the look of the Roland components = in a=20 rack!
 
All that power in 1U of=20 space...
 
Kind regards,
-=3DGlyn=3D-
 
= ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C2BE35.EF590D10-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 09:54:15 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:54:06 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:53:55 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.145]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030117145348.GZBW9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:53:48 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c2be37$b5b4d100$9150580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:49:59 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2BE0D.CC401800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2BE0D.CC401800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, We've touched this subject a couple of times. To those veterans of piano = sample CDs, which would you say is the best and in what order would you = all recommend purchasing them. Or; which one would you say is a must = have? You've talked about East West's "Ultimate Piano" which isn't made in the = Roland format anymore. you've talked about the "Holy Grail Piano", = Spectrasonics "Double Platinum Rock Piano". many of these include = Steinway, Bossendofer and Yamaha samples. The thing is, somewhere down the road, I'd love to get my hands on a = great Piano sample CD that has medium sized samples (say 6-16MB), has = serious variety (not just a recording of one piano with variations), and = has other keys thrown in. Name some really good sample CDs that would fit this bill please?! I was = a little impressed with the Yamaha 7 Foot 16MB sample on the Roland = Rhythm Section Instruments CD that dates back to 1991. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2BE0D.CC401800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
We've touched this subject a couple of = times. To=20 those veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is the best and = in what=20 order would you all recommend purchasing them. Or; which one would you = say is a=20 must have?
 
You've talked about East West's = "Ultimate Piano"=20 which isn't made in the Roland format anymore. you've talked about the = "Holy=20 Grail Piano", Spectrasonics "Double Platinum Rock Piano". many of these = include=20 Steinway, Bossendofer and Yamaha samples.
 
The thing is, somewhere down the road, = I'd love to=20 get my hands on a great Piano sample CD that has medium sized samples = (say=20 6-16MB), has serious variety (not just a recording of one piano with=20 variations), and has other keys thrown in.
 
Name some really good sample CDs that = would fit=20 this bill please?! I was a little impressed with the Yamaha 7 Foot 16MB = sample=20 on the Roland Rhythm Section Instruments CD that dates back to=20 1991.
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2BE0D.CC401800-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 09:57:33 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:57:26 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:57:16 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.145]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030117145710.GTPI12483.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:57:10 +0000 Message-ID: <003801c2be38$2db0c240$9150580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:53:20 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2BE0E.44547340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2BE0E.44547340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable QUOTE: ---------------------------- I think the issue was with the SCSI drivers on the PC scanning the SCSI = bus and the S760 not reporting its info back like other SCSI devices. AFAIK this issue may not affect the Mac which is why you should be able = to transfer data to/from the S760 over SCSI on this platform. I recall seeing somewhere that someone 'allegedly' tried using DOS SCSI drivers and had some success on the PC... =20 Regards, -=3DGlyn=3D- ---------------------------------- Glyn, Please explain this one. Where did you get the info on someone using a = DOS driver? Can this driver be placed in a windows folder and then be = used as a regular driver? Then what? Perhaps this won't do much as there = aren't any programs that support the S760 anyway? Or perhaps, this is = where regular sample editors come in. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2BE0E.44547340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I think = the issue was=20 with the SCSI drivers on the PC scanning the SCSI bus
and the S760 = not=20 reporting its info back like other SCSI devices.

 AFAIK this = issue=20 may not affect the Mac which is why you should be able = to
 transfer data=20 to/from the S760 over SCSI on this platform.

 I recall = seeing=20 somewhere that someone 'allegedly' tried using DOS SCSI
 drivers = and had=20 some success on the PC...
 
=20 Regards,
 -=3DGlyn=3D-
--------------------------------= --
 
Glyn,
 
Please explain this one. Where did you = get the info=20 on someone using a DOS driver? Can this driver be placed in a windows = folder and=20 then be used as a regular driver? Then what? Perhaps this won't do much = as there=20 aren't any programs that support the S760 anyway? Or perhaps, this is = where=20 regular sample editors come in.
 

 
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2BE0E.44547340-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 10:17:39 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:17:33 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:17:23 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZYDi-00071r-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:15:46 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:18:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002401c2be37$b5b4d100$9150580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Harold wrote: > To those veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is the best > Or; which one would you say is a must have? William Coakley 'The Perfect Piano' vol.1 (Steinway D in 16Mb) and vol.2 (Fazioli Grand in 32Mb) are in Roland format, priced at $299 each. Volume 3 are banks that are too large for the S-760. Coakley's piano samples are so good that they are used by others. Korg commissioned him to create a board for the Triton, E-Mu integrated the samples in the Ensoniq ZR-76, created the EXP-4 board for the Ensoniq MR Rack and a Proteus 2000 ROM. Now, imho, Korg and E-Mu machines are amongst the best sounds you can get out of synths/samplers, so the fact they chose WC should tell us something. The list of well-known users is also long as my arm. On another front, I was able to listen to The Holy Grail Piano and Grand Gold Pianos, both in E-Mu format, and I was truly amazed. Then again, with 128Mb banks you should be able to do something special! Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 10:25:16 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:25:07 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:25:04 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.96.33]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030117152459.HXIE9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:24:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c2be3c$1142c960$2160580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:21:10 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2BE12.27C4E8A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2BE12.27C4E8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I hear you there. I guess this is why some recent Roland formatted CDs = include samples at different dynamics at 32MB each. With 4 S760, you can = fool around with the 128MB. I've heard some of those too and was amazed. = I just downloaded a demo of the Ultimate Piano from East West. Too bad = it's no longer available in Roland format. I'd get the Akai version, but = they warn against using it with anything besides an Akai sampler.=20 I've got to check out William Coakley's Piano next. Later, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Francois Rossi To: Sgroup Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel > Harold wrote: > > To those veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is the = best > > Or; which one would you say is a must have? >=20 > William Coakley 'The Perfect Piano' vol.1 (Steinway D in 16Mb) and = vol.2 > (Fazioli Grand in 32Mb) are in Roland format, priced at $299 each. = Volume 3 > are banks that are too large for the S-760. >=20 > Coakley's piano samples are so good that they are used by others. Korg > commissioned him to create a board for the Triton, E-Mu integrated the > samples in the Ensoniq ZR-76, created the EXP-4 board for the Ensoniq = MR > Rack and a Proteus 2000 ROM. >=20 > Now, imho, Korg and E-Mu machines are amongst the best sounds you can = get > out of synths/samplers, so the fact they chose WC should tell us = something. > The list of well-known users is also long as my arm. >=20 > On another front, I was able to listen to The Holy Grail Piano and = Grand > Gold Pianos, both in E-Mu format, and I was truly amazed. Then again, = with > 128Mb banks you should be able to do something special! >=20 > Francois >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2BE12.27C4E8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
I hear you there. I guess this is why = some recent=20 Roland formatted CDs include samples at different dynamics at 32MB each. = With 4=20 S760, you can fool around with the 128MB. I've heard some of those too = and was=20 amazed. I just downloaded a demo of the Ultimate Piano from East West. = Too bad=20 it's no longer available in Roland format. I'd get the Akai version, but = they=20 warn against using it with anything besides an Akai sampler. =
 
I've got to check out William Coakley's = Piano=20 next.
 
Later,
Harold
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Francois Rossi <francois@chezrossi.net>
To: Sgroup <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:18=20 AM
Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano=20 Duel

> Harold wrote:
> = > To those=20 veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is the best
> = > Or;=20 which one would you say is a must have?
>
> William Coakley = 'The=20 Perfect Piano' vol.1 (Steinway D in 16Mb) and vol.2
> (Fazioli = Grand in=20 32Mb) are in Roland format, priced at $299 each. Volume 3
> are = banks that=20 are too large for the S-760.
>
> Coakley's piano samples = are so=20 good that they are used by others. Korg
> commissioned him to = create a=20 board for the Triton, E-Mu integrated the
> samples in the Ensoniq = ZR-76,=20 created the EXP-4 board for the Ensoniq MR
> Rack and a Proteus = 2000=20 ROM.
>
> Now, imho, Korg and E-Mu machines are amongst the = best=20 sounds you can get
> out of synths/samplers, so the fact they = chose WC=20 should tell us something.
> The list of well-known users is also = long as=20 my arm.
>
> On another front, I was able to listen to The = Holy=20 Grail Piano and Grand
> Gold Pianos, both in E-Mu format, and I = was truly=20 amazed. Then again, with
> 128Mb banks you should be able to do = something=20 special!
>
> Francois
>
>
>
> =
>=20 -
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> For=20 subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca
= > and=20 see http://www.generalconcept= s.com/sgroup/=20 for more information.
>
>
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2BE12.27C4E8A0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 10:35:34 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:35:27 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:35:21 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0HFZJo22123 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:35:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:46 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DE6EF16000696 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:12:40 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: sgroup List reply 'problem' Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:12:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I subscribe to a few mailing lists and this one is the only one I have this particular 'problem' with. When I hit the Reply To button it usually inserts the original posters name instead of the s-group mailing list itself. Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 10:39:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:39:29 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:39:19 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZYYy-000CYk-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:37:44 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup List reply 'problem' Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:40:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >When I hit the Reply To button it usually inserts the original posters name >instead of the s-group mailing list itself. >Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? Indeed. I have to type in the Sgroup shortcut in the to: field, otherwise the reply goes to the original poster. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 10:42:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:41:59 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:41:49 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:34:30 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C7A@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup List reply 'problem' Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:34:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >When I hit the Reply To button it usually inserts the original posters name >instead of the s-group mailing list itself. >Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? Yes. Same here!. Steven > -----Original Message----- > From: Glyn [SMTP:glyn@who.net] > Sent: 17 January 2003 14:13 > To: Roland S760 List > Subject: sgroup List reply 'problem' > > I subscribe to a few mailing lists and this one is the only one I have > this > particular 'problem' with. > > When I hit the Reply To button it usually inserts the original posters > name > instead of the s-group mailing list itself. > > Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? > > Regards, > -=Glyn=- > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). 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We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 10:42:33 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193740-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:42:29 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:42:13 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0HFgAR22568 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:42:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18512>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:38:04 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.29.177]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030117143235.OSQB3410.mail@[208.138.29.177]>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:32:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:37:53 -0500 To: , "Roland S760 List" From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup List reply 'problem' Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 9:12 AM -0500 17/1/2003, Glyn wrote: >I subscribe to a few mailing lists and this one is the only one I have this >particular 'problem' with. > >When I hit the Reply To button it usually inserts the original posters name >instead of the s-group mailing list itself. > >Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? > >Regards, >-=Glyn=- > no.. I usually have to hit reply to all to get the list included. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 10:44:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:44:50 -0500 Received: from nordpol.dbf.ddb.de ([193.175.100.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:44:35 -0500 Received: from dbf-ex1.ad.dbf (dbf-ex1.dbf.ddb.de [10.69.63.203]) by nordpol.dbf.ddb.de (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h0HFaWe05996; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:36:32 +0100 Received: by DBF-EX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:44:18 +0100 Message-ID: <0DD42F8743AED41197470020480E35CFFE41EC@DBF-EX1> From: "Seidel, Thomas" To: "'glyn@who.net'" , Roland S760 List Subject: RE: sgroup List reply 'problem' Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:44:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk That's the way the sgroup list is configured. majordomo is able to set the reply-to: field, this must be changed by the list owner. BTW, I press "reply to all" in outlook to get both addresses (in this case Glyn's and sgroup) -- Thomas > -----Original Message----- > From: Glyn [mailto:glyn@who.net] > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 3:13 PM > To: Roland S760 List > Subject: sgroup List reply 'problem' > > > I subscribe to a few mailing lists and this one is the only > one I have this > particular 'problem' with. > > When I hit the Reply To button it usually inserts the > original posters name > instead of the s-group mailing list itself. > > Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? > > Regards, > -=Glyn=- > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 11:15:21 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:15:13 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:15:10 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:07:56 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C7B@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: CCartCat@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Illegal-Object: Syntax error in To: address found on hugin.uunet.ca: To: 'gtrplaya!' ^-missing end of address Subject: RE: sgroup W30 SCSI chip Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:07:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >The SCSI chip for the W30 was made by Toshiba--anyone know/remember the >chip >number and whether's it's availiable (the chip itself, not the orig. Roland >upgrade)? Try this link for a company in the US. http://www.ramona.com/Soundlogic/SLxxKUC.html They have the actual KW30 kit listed for $94.00 under the heading "SCSI & Digital I/O Interfaces" if that's any good to you. Let us know how you get on. Steven > -----Original Message----- > From: gtrplaya ! [SMTP:gtrplaya@hotmail.com] > Sent: 16 January 2003 18:52 > To: CCartCat@aol.com; sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup W30 SCSI chip > > This is from the W30 FAQ page: http://www.c-trl.com/w30/w30faq.html > > "!!! NEW !!! > > There is also another chip you can insert in your W30 to get the SCSI > device > working. > I'm not sure if you can buy this chip easely, but ask for it at your local > > electronical store or contact Fujitsu UK where this deal was closed. > Its the the FujitsuMB89352AP. > > More precise 'name' to the chip that can be used to replace Rolands KW-30 > chip is > > 'Sharp genuine MB89352 SCSI host adaptor'. > > The fellow who tested this didn't get it to work with the W30HDCD for PC, > so > I put a new version online, but it did work with the W30HDCD for the Apple > > MAC, but try it yourself" > > Hope that helps > > > > > >From: CCartCat@aol.com > >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > >Subject: sgroup W30 SCSI chip > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:44:07 -0500 > > > >All the talk of Zip and hard drives got me thinking . . . > > > >The SCSI chip for the W30 was made by Toshiba--anyone know/remember the > >chip > >number and whether's it's availiable (the chip itself, not the orig. > Roland > >upgrade)? > > > >K. Seward > > > >- > >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither Brother International Europe Ltd nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). If you believe you have received this communication in error, please return it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then delete the email and destroy any copies of it. We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 11:40:04 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:59 -0500 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193726-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:45 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 76AE21600B6C5 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:39:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup List reply 'problem' Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200301171547.h0HFl9W22786@gc0.generalconcepts.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi John, > The list is configured correctly. Some lists change the From: to > be From the list, some lists set a Reply-To: addres, both of > which are inappropriate. Excuse my ignorance but in which way is it inappropriate? I mean every other list I take has the Reply To address as the mailing list and it is so easy to just hit reply and post to the list. If you want to email a member personally then the first line in the body of the post is the senders email address. But as by far the majority of the replies go to the list then it would make sense (to me anyway :-) to do it this way. The again I am not an expert on this (and most other) matters! ;^) > If your "Reply To" button means "reply to sender", you will correctly > see this behaviour. If your "Reply To" button means "reply to all", > you will see the other behaviour. This is correct, and in accordance > with long established internet standards. > > If your mail client doesn't behave as you expect it should, you > may wish to reconfigure it (if possible) or switch to a different > mail client. > > I notice that your mail client seems to insert a > Reply-To: > header, by which you indicate that you do not wish any replies to > your messages to go to the list, but only to you. I'm not sure > that that's what you actually intend to happen. Not quite sure I grasp that all John but I am guessing that is how the majority of the users (judging by the replies on this topic to date) have got their email clients setup. I know I have. Its just that every other list I subscribe to (just checked - most are on YahooGroups) obviously modify the Reply To field. That is my correct email address that is configured within Outlook 2000 so anybody can reply to my email by just hitting their own Reply button - works as expected for personal email. My comment applied just to this groups mailing list - no major problem other than I find it annoying to have to alter the To: field every time I want to post to the list that's all. I'm just lazy I guess - a couple of mouse clicks extra? Woooahhhh..too much like hard work! ;^) On a separate note have I missed National Roland Sampler Day or something? I have never seen the list so active and it seems like none of us have any work to do other than post to the list for the last couple of days! Kind regards, -=Glyn=- Just popped back into edit the To: field again as it was addressed directly to you John and not the list! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 11:40:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:57 -0500 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:44 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 17B391600B6BB for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:46 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2BE47.0BC4D680" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003801c2be38$2db0c240$9150580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2BE47.0BC4D680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Harold, This one was originally dug up from the Propellerhead Recycle support site; http://www.propellerheads.se/products/recycle/ Dropped SCSI support for some old samplers In version 1.7, SCSI support for some samplers has been dropped, on the Windows platform. The reason is that the SCSI implementation in these models is not Windows 95/98/NT compatible, and the manufacturers have informed us that the samplers will not be updated, at least not in this respect. In previous versions of ReCycle it was possible to circumvent this problem by using DOS drivers for the SCSI card. This method had several drawbacks. It was extremely complicated to get working, it prevented use of the SCSI card for other purposes and it hampered the performance of the computer etc. ReCycle is now a true 32 bit program and it runs under NT as well as Windows 95 and 98. For this and for other technical reasons the compromised solution with SCSI DOS drivers is not an option anymore. Hence, the SCSI support for some older samplers had to be dropped. It isn't listed quite that way in the sampler supplement .pdf file you can download from there but is listed that way if you click on the Recycle Support followed by Supported Samplers and then click against the S760 entry that reads SCSI only on Mac. How difficult would it have been for Roland to modify the code for the S760 to reply correctly to a SCSI 2 Device Inquiry message? You would think that as they dropped any support for it years ago they might have made the code available to an enterprising programmer to progress where they left off? They might have sold more sample CD's as a result...:-) Regards, -=Glyn=- -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: 17 January 2003 14:53 To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I QUOTE: ---------------------------- I think the issue was with the SCSI drivers on the PC scanning the SCSI bus and the S760 not reporting its info back like other SCSI devices. AFAIK this issue may not affect the Mac which is why you should be able to transfer data to/from the S760 over SCSI on this platform. I recall seeing somewhere that someone 'allegedly' tried using DOS SCSI drivers and had some success on the PC... Regards, -=Glyn=- ---------------------------------- Glyn, Please explain this one. Where did you get the info on someone using a DOS driver? Can this driver be placed in a windows folder and then be used as a regular driver? Then what? Perhaps this won't do much as there aren't any programs that support the S760 anyway? Or perhaps, this is where regular sample editors come in. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2BE47.0BC4D680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Harold,
 
This=20 one was originally dug up from the Propellerhead Recycle support=20 site;
 
http://www.propellerheads.se/products/recycle/

Dropped SCSI = support for=20 some old samplers

In version 1.7, SCSI support for = some samplers=20 has been dropped, on the Windows platform. The reason is that the SCSI=20 implementation in these models is not Windows 95/98/NT compatible, and = the=20 manufacturers have informed us that the samplers will not be updated, at = least=20 not in this respect.

In previous versions of ReCycle it = was=20 possible to circumvent this problem by using DOS drivers for the SCSI = card. This=20 method had several drawbacks. It was extremely complicated to get = working, it=20 prevented use of the SCSI card for other purposes and it hampered the=20 performance of the computer etc.

ReCycle is now a true 32 bit = program and it=20 runs under NT as well as Windows 95 and 98. For this and for other = technical=20 reasons the compromised solution with SCSI DOS drivers is not an option = anymore.=20 Hence, the SCSI support for some older samplers had to be = dropped.

It isn't listed=20 quite that way in the sampler supplement .pdf file you can download from = there=20 but is listed that way if you click on the Recycle Support followed = by=20 Supported Samplers and then click against the S760 entry that reads = SCSI=20 only on Mac.

How difficult=20 would it have been for Roland to modify the code for the S760 to reply = correctly=20 to a SCSI 2 Device Inquiry message?

You would think=20 that as they dropped any support for it years ago they might have made = the code=20 available to an enterprising programmer to progress where they left=20 off?

They might have=20 sold more sample CD's as a result...:-)

Regards,

-=3DGlyn=3D-

 

-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold = Everton,=20 Jr.
Sent: 17 January 2003 14:53
To:=20 sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca
Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga = Part=20 I

QUOTE:
----------------------------
I = think the issue was=20 with the SCSI drivers on the PC scanning the SCSI bus
and the S760 = not=20 reporting its info back like other SCSI devices.

 AFAIK = this issue=20 may not affect the Mac which is why you should be able = to
 transfer=20 data to/from the S760 over SCSI on this platform.

 I = recall seeing=20 somewhere that someone 'allegedly' tried using DOS = SCSI
 drivers and=20 had some success on the=20 = PC...
 
Regards,
 -=3DGlyn=3D-
-------------= ---------------------
 
Glyn,
 
Please explain this one. Where did = you get the=20 info on someone using a DOS driver? Can this driver be placed in a = windows=20 folder and then be used as a regular driver? Then what? Perhaps this = won't do=20 much as there aren't any programs that support the S760 anyway? Or = perhaps,=20 this is where regular sample editors come in.
 

 
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C2BE47.0BC4D680-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 11:40:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:57 -0500 Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:44 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9CDD516001022 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:39:41 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2BE47.0C4E78E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000d01c2be3c$1142c960$2160580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2BE47.0C4E78E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello again Harold, For how long has Ultimate Piano not been available from East West? I only bought mine for $99 01/02/02 - although that is a nearly a year ago now...didn't seem like that long... Regards, -=Glyn=- -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: 17 January 2003 15:21 To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Hey, I hear you there. I guess this is why some recent Roland formatted CDs include samples at different dynamics at 32MB each. With 4 S760, you can fool around with the 128MB. I've heard some of those too and was amazed. I just downloaded a demo of the Ultimate Piano from East West. Too bad it's no longer available in Roland format. I'd get the Akai version, but they warn against using it with anything besides an Akai sampler. I've got to check out William Coakley's Piano next. Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois Rossi To: Sgroup Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel > Harold wrote: > > To those veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is the best > > Or; which one would you say is a must have? > > William Coakley 'The Perfect Piano' vol.1 (Steinway D in 16Mb) and vol.2 > (Fazioli Grand in 32Mb) are in Roland format, priced at $299 each. Volume 3 > are banks that are too large for the S-760. > > Coakley's piano samples are so good that they are used by others. Korg > commissioned him to create a board for the Triton, E-Mu integrated the > samples in the Ensoniq ZR-76, created the EXP-4 board for the Ensoniq MR > Rack and a Proteus 2000 ROM. > > Now, imho, Korg and E-Mu machines are amongst the best sounds you can get > out of synths/samplers, so the fact they chose WC should tell us something. > The list of well-known users is also long as my arm. > > On another front, I was able to listen to The Holy Grail Piano and Grand > Gold Pianos, both in E-Mu format, and I was truly amazed. Then again, with > 128Mb banks you should be able to do something special! > > Francois > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2BE47.0C4E78E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello=20 again Harold,
 
For=20 how long has Ultimate Piano not been available from East=20 West?
 
I only=20 bought mine for $99 01/02/02 - although that is a nearly a year ago = now...didn't=20 seem like that long...
 
Regards,
-=3DGlyn=3D-
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold = Everton,=20 Jr.
Sent: 17 January 2003 15:21
To:=20 sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca
Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano=20 Duel

Hey,
 
I hear you there. I guess this is why = some recent=20 Roland formatted CDs include samples at different dynamics at 32MB = each. With=20 4 S760, you can fool around with the 128MB. I've heard some of those = too and=20 was amazed. I just downloaded a demo of the Ultimate Piano from East = West. Too=20 bad it's no longer available in Roland format. I'd get the Akai = version, but=20 they warn against using it with anything besides an Akai sampler.=20
 
I've got to check out William = Coakley's Piano=20 next.
 
Later,
Harold
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Francois Rossi <francois@chezrossi.net>
To: Sgroup <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:18=20 AM
Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano=20 Duel

> Harold wrote:
> = > To=20 those veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is the = best
>=20 > Or; which one would you say is a must have?
>
> = William=20 Coakley 'The Perfect Piano' vol.1 (Steinway D in 16Mb) and = vol.2
>=20 (Fazioli Grand in 32Mb) are in Roland format, priced at $299 each. = Volume=20 3
> are banks that are too large for the S-760.
>
> = Coakley's piano samples are so good that they are used by others. = Korg
>=20 commissioned him to create a board for the Triton, E-Mu integrated = the
>=20 samples in the Ensoniq ZR-76, created the EXP-4 board for the Ensoniq=20 MR
> Rack and a Proteus 2000 ROM.
>
> Now, imho, = Korg and=20 E-Mu machines are amongst the best sounds you can get
> out of=20 synths/samplers, so the fact they chose WC should tell us = something.
>=20 The list of well-known users is also long as my arm.
>
> = On=20 another front, I was able to listen to The Holy Grail Piano and = Grand
>=20 Gold Pianos, both in E-Mu format, and I was truly amazed. Then again,=20 with
> 128Mb banks you should be able to do something = special!
>=20
> Francois
>
>
>
>
> = -
> Sent=20 by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca
> For subscription=20 information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca
= >=20 and see http://www.generalconcept= s.com/sgroup/=20 for more information.
>
> =
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C2BE47.0C4E78E0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 11:58:26 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:58:18 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:58:12 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.114.232]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030117165807.JYXY3089.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:58:07 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c2be49$13f97200$e872580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:54:18 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2BE1F.2A726980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2BE1F.2A726980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I'm not sure how long it hasn't been available from East West. I mean, = it is available in Emu and Akai format. You probably got it on a blow = out deal. Considering it is still $179, $99 in my opinion is a steal for = the Roland formatted CD. Someone here said that they emailed East West = and they informed them that they no longer stock and support the Roland = format on that title. If they did, I'd probably buy it right away. Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Glyn=20 To: Roland S760 List=20 Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:39 AM Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Hello again Harold, =20 For how long has Ultimate Piano not been available from East West? =20 I only bought mine for $99 01/02/02 - although that is a nearly a year = ago now...didn't seem like that long... =20 Regards, -=3DGlyn=3D- =20 -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca = [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: 17 January 2003 15:21 To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Hey, I hear you there. I guess this is why some recent Roland formatted = CDs include samples at different dynamics at 32MB each. With 4 S760, you = can fool around with the 128MB. I've heard some of those too and was = amazed. I just downloaded a demo of the Ultimate Piano from East West. = Too bad it's no longer available in Roland format. I'd get the Akai = version, but they warn against using it with anything besides an Akai = sampler.=20 I've got to check out William Coakley's Piano next. Later, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Francois Rossi To: Sgroup Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel > Harold wrote: > > To those veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is = the best > > Or; which one would you say is a must have? >=20 > William Coakley 'The Perfect Piano' vol.1 (Steinway D in 16Mb) and = vol.2 > (Fazioli Grand in 32Mb) are in Roland format, priced at $299 each. = Volume 3 > are banks that are too large for the S-760. >=20 > Coakley's piano samples are so good that they are used by others. = Korg > commissioned him to create a board for the Triton, E-Mu integrated = the > samples in the Ensoniq ZR-76, created the EXP-4 board for the = Ensoniq MR > Rack and a Proteus 2000 ROM. >=20 > Now, imho, Korg and E-Mu machines are amongst the best sounds you = can get > out of synths/samplers, so the fact they chose WC should tell us = something. > The list of well-known users is also long as my arm. >=20 > On another front, I was able to listen to The Holy Grail Piano and = Grand > Gold Pianos, both in E-Mu format, and I was truly amazed. Then = again, with > 128Mb banks you should be able to do something special! >=20 > Francois >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to = majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more = information. >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2BE1F.2A726980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
I'm not sure how long it hasn't been = available from=20 East West. I mean, it is available in Emu and Akai format. You probably = got it=20 on a blow out deal. Considering it is still $179, $99 in my opinion is a = steal=20 for the Roland formatted CD. Someone here said that they emailed East = West and=20 they informed them that they no longer stock and support the Roland = format on=20 that title. If they did, I'd probably buy it right away.
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Glyn
To: Roland S760=20 List
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 = 11:39=20 AM
Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup = Piano=20 Duel

Hello again Harold,
 
For=20 how long has Ultimate Piano not been available from East=20 West?
 
I=20 only bought mine for $99 01/02/02 - although that is a nearly a year = ago=20 now...didn't seem like that long...
 
Regards,
-=3DGlyn=3D-
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uun= et.ca]On=20 Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr.
Sent: 17 January 2003=20 15:21
To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca
Subject: Re: = sgroup The=20 SGroup Piano Duel

Hey,
 
I hear you there. I guess this is = why some=20 recent Roland formatted CDs include samples at different dynamics at = 32MB=20 each. With 4 S760, you can fool around with the 128MB. I've heard = some of=20 those too and was amazed. I just downloaded a demo of the Ultimate = Piano=20 from East West. Too bad it's no longer available in Roland format. = I'd get=20 the Akai version, but they warn against using it with anything = besides an=20 Akai sampler.
 
I've got to check out William = Coakley's Piano=20 next.
 
Later,
Harold
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Francois Rossi <francois@chezrossi.net>
To: Sgroup <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 = 10:18=20 AM
Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup = Piano=20 Duel

> Harold = wrote:
> > To=20 those veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is the = best
>=20 > Or; which one would you say is a must have?
>
> = William=20 Coakley 'The Perfect Piano' vol.1 (Steinway D in 16Mb) and = vol.2
>=20 (Fazioli Grand in 32Mb) are in Roland format, priced at $299 each. = Volume=20 3
> are banks that are too large for the S-760.
> =
>=20 Coakley's piano samples are so good that they are used by others.=20 Korg
> commissioned him to create a board for the Triton, E-Mu = integrated the
> samples in the Ensoniq ZR-76, created the = EXP-4 board=20 for the Ensoniq MR
> Rack and a Proteus 2000 ROM.
> =
>=20 Now, imho, Korg and E-Mu machines are amongst the best sounds you = can=20 get
> out of synths/samplers, so the fact they chose WC should = tell us=20 something.
> The list of well-known users is also long as my=20 arm.
>
> On another front, I was able to listen to The = Holy=20 Grail Piano and Grand
> Gold Pianos, both in E-Mu format, and = I was=20 truly amazed. Then again, with
> 128Mb banks you should be = able to do=20 something special!
>
> Francois
>
> =
>=20
>
> -
> Sent by the sgroup mailing list on=20 lists.uunet.ca
> For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca
= >=20 and see http://www.generalconcept= s.com/sgroup/=20 for more information.
>
>=20
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C2BE1F.2A726980-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 12:16:21 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:16:12 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:16:09 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Za1T-000On6-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:11:15 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:17:11 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001001c2be49$13f97200$e872580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Someone here said that they emailed East West and > they informed them that they no longer stock The Ultimate Piano is still listed as available from Best Service and Time + Space. URL are www.bestservice.de and www.timespace.com. There's also the Miroslav Vitous Acoustic Piano available. I've never heard it. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 12:19:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:19:35 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([66.203.197.228]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:19:29 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0HHJPv28795 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:19:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:47:20 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0HFl9W22786; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:47:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:47:09 -0500 Message-Id: <200301171547.h0HFl9W22786@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: glyn@who.net, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup List reply 'problem' Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | From: "Glyn" | | I subscribe to a few mailing lists and this one is the only one I have this | particular 'problem' with. | | When I hit the Reply To button it usually inserts the original posters name | instead of the s-group mailing list itself. | | Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? The list is configured correctly. Some lists change the From: to be From the list, some lists set a Reply-To: addres, both of which are inappropriate. If your "Reply To" button means "reply to sender", you will correctly see this behaviour. If your "Reply To" button means "reply to all", you will see the other behaviour. This is correct, and in accordance with long established internet standards. If your mail client doesn't behave as you expect it should, you may wish to reconfigure it (if possible) or switch to a different mail client. I notice that your mail client seems to insert a Reply-To: header, by which you indicate that you do not wish any replies to your messages to go to the list, but only to you. I'm not sure that that's what you actually intend to happen. Cheers! John jsellens@generalconcepts.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 12:20:58 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193728-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:20:47 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([66.203.197.228]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:20:40 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0HHKZn28859 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:20:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193724-18513>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:45 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E1EE1600B655 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:39:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup List reply 'problem' Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0DD42F8743AED41197470020480E35CFFE41EC@DBF-EX1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk And because you reply to both addresses and I have a rule that checks for incoming mail from sgroup and moves then to my Roland S Series Mailing List folder I actually end up with two replies in there, one that was sent to sgroup and the one that was sent to me. :-) Bit annoying really as I don't experience this problem-ette with any of the multitude of mailing lists that I subscribe to. That's why I miss certain messages sent to me personally I guess - I always keep up to date with my email but only when I get the time do I play catch-up on the mailing lists - and of course my Rules have already moved the personal reply to me to the mailing list! Confused?? ;^) Regards, -=Glyn=- PS. Oh look...there's another duplicate message from you just above this one in my folder! I'm only replying to the one mind! ;^) > -----Original Message----- > From: Seidel, Thomas [mailto:seidelt@dbf.ddb.de] > Sent: 17 January 2003 15:44 > To: 'glyn@who.net'; Roland S760 List > Subject: RE: sgroup List reply 'problem' > > > That's the way the sgroup list is configured. majordomo is able to set the > reply-to: field, this must be changed by the list owner. > > BTW, I press "reply to all" in outlook to get both addresses (in this case > Glyn's and sgroup) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 12:21:14 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:21:00 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([66.203.197.228]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:20:46 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0HHKi228866 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:20:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from shockwave.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193727-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:45 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by shockwave.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BF5DF1600B6BB for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:39:42 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: RE: sgroup List reply 'problem' Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:39:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Sven Patterson [mailto:rsp@richardsven.com] > Sent: 17 January 2003 15:38 > To: glyn@who.net; Roland S760 List > Subject: Re: sgroup List reply 'problem' > > > At 9:12 AM -0500 17/1/2003, Glyn wrote: > >I subscribe to a few mailing lists and this one is the only one > I have this > >particular 'problem' with. > > > >When I hit the Reply To button it usually inserts the original > posters name > >instead of the s-group mailing list itself. > > > >Has anyone else noticed this behaviour? > > > >Regards, > >-=Glyn=- > > > > no.. I usually have to hit reply to all to get the list included. I noticed. I have two copies of your reply!!! And now I have to go into the To: box to delete your personal email address and change it to the sgroup mailing list or no-one else sees my reply but you! :-) Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 12:24:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:24:49 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193726-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:24:46 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Za9n-0001Dy-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:19:51 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup S-760 website update Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:25:48 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks for the kind words from many of you. There are two new pages on the website. The 'monitor' section in 'accessories' is now complete, thanks to Peter Ullrich for sending me the pinout scans I needed. The 'sounds' section is also up. I've listed all sample cds I could track for the S5 and S7. Well over 100 for the S7. Time+Space in the UK still list 79 entries for Roland cds. This should answer a few queries about what is/was available. Next will be the OP-760 manual, but I'm redoing it via OCR and edit so as not to put a 7Mb file to download. This takes time. Have a good week-end with your Roland(s). Cheers, Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 12:25:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193726-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:25:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f133.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.133]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:25:25 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:25:18 -0800 Received: from 128.183.85.78 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:25:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.183.85.78] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Sample CDs FS at Harmony Central Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:25:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 17:25:18.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[67D6BA00:01C2BE4D] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Here's the ad: Sample CDs (Akai, Giga, EMU, Roland, Wav...) Asking Price: US$N/A Condition: Mint Age: N/A Description: I have a huge library that I need to sell real fast. If interested e-mail: sampleman@37.com for a list. SM Seller: Sample Man, E-mail: sampleman@37.com (Profile) Post Date: 1/15/2003 _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 13:16:45 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:16:39 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:16:32 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Zaxt-000FE5-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:11:37 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 website update Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:17:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > What is the site URL? s760.us.tt. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 13:39:12 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:39:07 -0500 Received: from hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:38:59 -0500 Received: from [192.168.200.113] (helo=wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZbOL-0007t3-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:38:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.60] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Fri Jan 17 13:38:57 EST 2003 Message-ID: <718194.1042828737401.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:40:01 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup GigaPackII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Has anyone heard both GigaPackI and II? Is there a big difference? They both seem to have the same general mix of sounds and they both include an entire choir CD. Is one good enough (if so, which one?) or do you really want to have both? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 13:47:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:46:56 -0500 Received: from hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:46:46 -0500 Received: from [192.168.200.113] (helo=wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZbVs-0003aE-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:46:44 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.60] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Fri Jan 17 13:46:44 EST 2003 Message-ID: <2981516.1042829204255.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:47:48 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Atari and MIDI Sequencers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I also have and still use an Atari computer, a 1040ST ('don't think it's an 'E'). It's a wonderful computer and I'm very glad I chose to start with it instead of a Mac (PC MIDI stufff was virtually non-existent in the late-mid 80s). I bought a cheap Windows MIDI sequencer for my PC laptop intending to convert all my sequence files over to the new sequencer, worried that one of these days my Atari is going to conk out and all my MIDI stuff will be gone (plus I can't MIDI sync the Atari and my DAW), but the sequencer I bought was a complete waste, even at ~$20. With Dr. Ts KCS (Keyboard Controlled Sequencer), I go to a track play screen with tape recorder-like controls and start recording X bars worth of tracks. When I'm done, I save it as a sequence file, like a verse or a chorus. When I have enough sequences for the entire song, I link them together as a song file and I'm done. My understanding is this is not the way modern Windows sequencer software works. Isn't there anything for the PC that will let me work like this? I don't want any audio editing capabilities, and I don't want to pay $400 for a sequencer. Ideas? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 14:05:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:05:23 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13019>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:05:17 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Zbj6-0004sQ-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:00:24 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup GigaPackII Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:06:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <718194.1042828737401.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Is one good enough (if so, which one?) or do you really want to have both? Both making 4 discs could be your only Roland library for general sounds. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 14:08:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:08:15 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:08:04 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Zblm-00064K-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:03:10 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Atari and MIDI Sequencers Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:09:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2981516.1042829204255.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > My understanding is this is not the way modern Windows > sequencer software works. Isn't there anything for the PC > that will let me work like this? What you're after a called a pattern-based sequencer. Not many do that, that's why I'm still using Studio Vision on the Mac for all my midi needs. It's not been updated sine 1999, will not run on OS X but it's still the business if you like to create patterns to assemble midi sequences. Vision was available on the PC for a while. If you find a used copy, it's likely to be very cheap. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 14:17:17 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:17:08 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:17:04 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZbuP-0008cy-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:12:05 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup Info query on repairs Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:18:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Can you guys email me places where you would send your S-7 for repairs, i.e. workshops you dealt with before and trust to do a good job at a reasonable price? In the UK, I'm listing Delatronics and Cimple Solutions. I have nothing for all other countries so shoot please. Cheers, Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 14:19:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:19:28 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:19:25 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.83.85]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030117191915.PATV9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:19:15 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c2be5c$c8662040$5553580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup GigaPackII Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:15:21 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2BE32.DED776A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2BE32.DED776A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I have Gigapack 1. I'll say this - This would NOT be your only source = for GOOD sounds. having said that, I'll add that it can be a good SOURCE = of sounds. There are some great sounds in the Gigapack, and many more = that are not that great. On gigapack 1, the choir sounds are somewhat = useful, but in the pad sense. Many of them are drenched in reverb and = have little musicality. Remember those sounds that Keyboard magazine = calls, "great to mess with, but would never find it's way into a real = musical situation". Well, you get a lot of those on Gigapack 1. The guitar sounds are inspirational, but most of them are a joke. Put it = this way, you'd be a little satisfied at first, but will get bored = quickly. On disc A, you have a plethora of drum sounds. I'd say 99% of = the drum sounds here suck. Many of them sound like the drums you'd = encounter on a Kawai K1RII (1988). Some are in stereo, but really don't = sound like drums. Many of these sets are supposed to be acoustic too. I = wouldn't even use these in an electronic context. I'd say, stick to the = drumscapes/Club50/Drums & Cymbal CDs for drums.=20 The Digital/Analog/K2000/Microwave banks are real cool. Many of the = sounds are thin and weak, but would probably sound better with effects = added. A lot of these sounds need tweaking. I hate to have to tweak = unless I really want to. A lot of these should sound good right out of = the box. I'd advise to stick to those Akai S1000 Analog Synth CDs for = the Clavia, etc. that you bought before than to use the synth sounds on = the gigapack. The piano sounds range from very weak to moderately good. Grand Piano 2 = is excellent. However, I still can't imagine using these sounds in tunes = considering there are so many other sources available. The organs are = okay. The brass, woodwind & strings selections sound like they were = recorded in an elementary school in the Midwest somewhere - Poor = performances and poor quality. I can't imagine purchasing this CD again, and definitely not at full = price. However, this was Volume 1. I probably wouldn't purchase Volume 2 = unless I got it on a blow out deal, and if that was deal was around $50 = or less. This should've been one of those CDs that Roland could've = bundled just to get new S700 users started with their samplers. This CD set is like a flea market. You have to peck and hunt to find the = goodies here. You'll spend a lot of time hunting too. Good luck. Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C2BE32.DED776A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I have Gigapack 1. I'll say this - This = would NOT=20 be your only source for GOOD sounds. having said that, I'll add that it = can be a=20 good SOURCE of sounds. There are some great sounds in the Gigapack, and = many=20 more that are not that great. On gigapack 1, the choir sounds are = somewhat=20 useful, but in the pad sense. Many of them are drenched in reverb and = have=20 little musicality. Remember those sounds that Keyboard magazine calls, = "great to=20 mess with, but would never find it's way into a real musical situation". = Well,=20 you get a lot of those on Gigapack 1.
 
The guitar sounds are inspirational, = but most of=20 them are a joke. Put it this way, you'd be a little satisfied at first, = but will=20 get bored quickly. On disc A, you have a plethora of drum sounds. I'd = say 99% of=20 the drum sounds here suck. Many of them sound like the drums you'd = encounter on=20 a Kawai K1RII (1988). Some are in stereo, but really don't sound like = drums.=20 Many of these sets are supposed to be acoustic too. I wouldn't even use = these in=20 an electronic context. I'd say, stick to the drumscapes/Club50/Drums = &=20 Cymbal CDs for drums.
 
The Digital/Analog/K2000/Microwave = banks are real=20 cool. Many of the sounds are thin and weak, but would probably sound = better with=20 effects added. A lot of these sounds need tweaking. I hate to have to = tweak=20 unless I really want to. A lot of these should sound good right out of = the box.=20 I'd advise to stick to those Akai S1000 Analog Synth CDs for the Clavia, = etc.=20 that you bought before than to use the synth sounds on the=20 gigapack.
 
The piano sounds range from very weak = to moderately=20 good. Grand Piano 2 is excellent. However, I still can't imagine using = these=20 sounds in tunes considering there are so many other sources available. = The=20 organs are okay. The brass, woodwind & strings selections sound like = they=20 were recorded in an elementary school in the Midwest somewhere - Poor=20 performances and poor quality.
 
I can't imagine purchasing this CD = again, and=20 definitely not at full price. However, this was Volume 1. I probably = wouldn't=20 purchase Volume 2 unless I got it on a blow out deal, and if that was = deal was=20 around $50 or less. This should've been one of those CDs that Roland = could've=20 bundled just to get new S700 users started with their = samplers.
 
This CD set is like a flea market. You = have to peck=20 and hunt to find the goodies here. You'll spend a lot of time hunting = too. Good=20 luck.
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
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To: francois@chezrossi.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Info query on repairs Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:22:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 19:22:28.0831 (UTC) FILETIME=[C6523EF0:01C2BE5D] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Francois.... Roland US (rolandus.com) list authorized repair centers for Roland units...that may help. Doug >From: "Francois Rossi" >To: "Sgroup" >Subject: sgroup Info query on repairs >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:18:02 -0500 > > >Can you guys email me places where you would send your S-7 for repairs, >i.e. >workshops you dealt with before and trust to do a good job at a reasonable >price? > >In the UK, I'm listing Delatronics and Cimple Solutions. > >I have nothing for all other countries so shoot please. > >Cheers, > >Francois > > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 14:40:23 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:40:15 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:40:05 -0500 Received: from [192.168.200.113] (helo=wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZcLO-000611-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:39:58 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.59] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Fri Jan 17 14:39:58 EST 2003 Message-ID: <2478108.1042832398458.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:41:03 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup GigaPackII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks, Harold & Francois for the info on GigaPack. Is there much overlap between the two sets? The description for the second collection sounds almost exactly like the one for the first. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 14:57:52 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:57:45 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:57:34 -0500 Received: from user-38ldm44.dialup.mindspring.com ([209.86.216.132] helo=randyhoffix) by smtp6.mindspring.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZccJ-0001xw-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:57:27 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01c2be61$add7c760$5d7c79a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Francois Rossi" , "Sgroup" References: Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:49:56 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have both the Coakley and Ultimate Piano, and I would differ in over praising the Coakley. I also believe the Roland and Kurzweil synths to be more accomplished in sounds that are less tiresome. I still own my D50 and coudn't wait to get rid of my M1rex. I do believe performing musician find the Korg more popular because of stage dynamics. I don't own a Kurzwiel because I can't afford one right now. I believe the Roland and Kurzwiel are more configurable in structures and sound better. (this should wake a few reader) Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois Rossi To: Sgroup Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:18 AM Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel > Harold wrote: > > To those veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is the best > > Or; which one would you say is a must have? > > William Coakley 'The Perfect Piano' vol.1 (Steinway D in 16Mb) and vol.2 > (Fazioli Grand in 32Mb) are in Roland format, priced at $299 each. Volume 3 > are banks that are too large for the S-760. > > Coakley's piano samples are so good that they are used by others. Korg > commissioned him to create a board for the Triton, E-Mu integrated the > samples in the Ensoniq ZR-76, created the EXP-4 board for the Ensoniq MR > Rack and a Proteus 2000 ROM. > > Now, imho, Korg and E-Mu machines are amongst the best sounds you can get > out of synths/samplers, so the fact they chose WC should tell us something. > The list of well-known users is also long as my arm. > > On another front, I was able to listen to The Holy Grail Piano and Grand > Gold Pianos, both in E-Mu format, and I was truly amazed. Then again, with > 128Mb banks you should be able to do something special! > > Francois > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 15:13:42 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:13:35 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:13:24 -0500 Received: from user-2initu6.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.119.198] helo=randyhoffix) by smtp6.mindspring.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18Zcra-0006mp-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:13:15 -0500 Message-ID: <004c01c2be63$e24f9020$5d7c79a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , References: <001d01c2be5c$c8662040$5553580c@epu1> Subject: Re: sgroup GigaPackII Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:05:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2BE20.C2662460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2BE20.C2662460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree. This CD is the jack-of-all trades but master of none. Randy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Everton, Jr.=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: Re: sgroup GigaPackII Hey All, I have Gigapack 1. I'll say this - This would NOT be your only source = for GOOD sounds. having said that, I'll add that it can be a good SOURCE = of sounds. There are some great sounds in the Gigapack, and many more = that are not that great. On gigapack 1, the choir sounds are somewhat = useful, but in the pad sense. Many of them are drenched in reverb and = have little musicality. Remember those sounds that Keyboard magazine = calls, "great to mess with, but would never find it's way into a real = musical situation". Well, you get a lot of those on Gigapack 1. The guitar sounds are inspirational, but most of them are a joke. Put = it this way, you'd be a little satisfied at first, but will get bored = quickly. On disc A, you have a plethora of drum sounds. I'd say 99% of = the drum sounds here suck. Many of them sound like the drums you'd = encounter on a Kawai K1RII (1988). Some are in stereo, but really don't = sound like drums. Many of these sets are supposed to be acoustic too. I = wouldn't even use these in an electronic context. I'd say, stick to the = drumscapes/Club50/Drums & Cymbal CDs for drums.=20 The Digital/Analog/K2000/Microwave banks are real cool. Many of the = sounds are thin and weak, but would probably sound better with effects = added. A lot of these sounds need tweaking. I hate to have to tweak = unless I really want to. A lot of these should sound good right out of = the box. I'd advise to stick to those Akai S1000 Analog Synth CDs for = the Clavia, etc. that you bought before than to use the synth sounds on = the gigapack. The piano sounds range from very weak to moderately good. Grand Piano = 2 is excellent. However, I still can't imagine using these sounds in = tunes considering there are so many other sources available. The organs = are okay. The brass, woodwind & strings selections sound like they were = recorded in an elementary school in the Midwest somewhere - Poor = performances and poor quality. I can't imagine purchasing this CD again, and definitely not at full = price. However, this was Volume 1. I probably wouldn't purchase Volume 2 = unless I got it on a blow out deal, and if that was deal was around $50 = or less. This should've been one of those CDs that Roland could've = bundled just to get new S700 users started with their samplers. This CD set is like a flea market. You have to peck and hunt to find = the goodies here. You'll spend a lot of time hunting too. Good luck. Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2BE20.C2662460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree.  This CD is the jack-of-all = trades but=20 master of none.
 
Randy
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Harold Everton, = Jr.
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 = 11:15=20 AM
Subject: Re: sgroup = GigaPackII

Hey All,
 
I have Gigapack 1. I'll say this - = This would NOT=20 be your only source for GOOD sounds. having said that, I'll add that = it can be=20 a good SOURCE of sounds. There are some great sounds in the Gigapack, = and many=20 more that are not that great. On gigapack 1, the choir sounds are = somewhat=20 useful, but in the pad sense. Many of them are drenched in reverb and = have=20 little musicality. Remember those sounds that Keyboard magazine calls, = "great=20 to mess with, but would never find it's way into a real musical = situation".=20 Well, you get a lot of those on Gigapack 1.
 
The guitar sounds are inspirational, = but most of=20 them are a joke. Put it this way, you'd be a little satisfied at = first, but=20 will get bored quickly. On disc A, you have a plethora of drum sounds. = I'd say=20 99% of the drum sounds here suck. Many of them sound like the drums = you'd=20 encounter on a Kawai K1RII (1988). Some are in stereo, but really = don't sound=20 like drums. Many of these sets are supposed to be acoustic too. I = wouldn't=20 even use these in an electronic context. I'd say, stick to the=20 drumscapes/Club50/Drums & Cymbal CDs for drums.
 
The Digital/Analog/K2000/Microwave = banks are real=20 cool. Many of the sounds are thin and weak, but would probably sound = better=20 with effects added. A lot of these sounds need tweaking. I hate to = have to=20 tweak unless I really want to. A lot of these should sound good right = out of=20 the box. I'd advise to stick to those Akai S1000 Analog Synth CDs for = the=20 Clavia, etc. that you bought before than to use the synth sounds on = the=20 gigapack.
 
The piano sounds range from very weak = to=20 moderately good. Grand Piano 2 is excellent. However, I still can't = imagine=20 using these sounds in tunes considering there are so many other = sources=20 available. The organs are okay. The brass, woodwind & strings = selections=20 sound like they were recorded in an elementary school in the Midwest = somewhere=20 - Poor performances and poor quality.
 
I can't imagine purchasing this CD = again, and=20 definitely not at full price. However, this was Volume 1. I probably = wouldn't=20 purchase Volume 2 unless I got it on a blow out deal, and if that was = deal was=20 around $50 or less. This should've been one of those CDs that Roland = could've=20 bundled just to get new S700 users started with their = samplers.
 
This CD set is like a flea market. = You have to=20 peck and hunt to find the goodies here. You'll spend a lot of time = hunting=20 too. Good luck.
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0049_01C2BE20.C2662460-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 15:17:16 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:17:08 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:17:05 -0500 Received: from user-2inis26.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.112.70] helo=randyhoffix) by smtp6.mindspring.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18Zcv7-0001e3-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:16:54 -0500 Message-ID: <005a01c2be64$65124b60$5d7c79a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , References: <002401c2be37$b5b4d100$9150580c@epu1> Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:09:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C2BE21.457B4560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C2BE21.457B4560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I own the S750 and have to contend with a 18MB sample. I owned many = piano module and head a lot of samples. I've settled on the Stienway = "C" on the Ultimate Piano. =20 Randy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Everton, Jr.=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:49 AM Subject: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Hey All, We've touched this subject a couple of times. To those veterans of = piano sample CDs, which would you say is the best and in what order = would you all recommend purchasing them. Or; which one would you say is = a must have? You've talked about East West's "Ultimate Piano" which isn't made in = the Roland format anymore. you've talked about the "Holy Grail Piano", = Spectrasonics "Double Platinum Rock Piano". many of these include = Steinway, Bossendofer and Yamaha samples. The thing is, somewhere down the road, I'd love to get my hands on a = great Piano sample CD that has medium sized samples (say 6-16MB), has = serious variety (not just a recording of one piano with variations), and = has other keys thrown in. Name some really good sample CDs that would fit this bill please?! I = was a little impressed with the Yamaha 7 Foot 16MB sample on the Roland = Rhythm Section Instruments CD that dates back to 1991. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C2BE21.457B4560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I own the S750 and have to contend with a 18MB = sample.  I=20 owned many piano module and head a lot of samples.  I've settled on = the=20 Stienway "C" on the Ultimate Piano. 
 
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Harold Everton, = Jr.
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 = 6:49=20 AM
Subject: sgroup The SGroup = Piano=20 Duel

Hey All,
 
We've touched this subject a couple = of times. To=20 those veterans of piano sample CDs, which would you say is the best = and in=20 what order would you all recommend purchasing them. Or; which one = would you=20 say is a must have?
 
You've talked about East West's = "Ultimate Piano"=20 which isn't made in the Roland format anymore. you've talked about the = "Holy=20 Grail Piano", Spectrasonics "Double Platinum Rock Piano". many of = these=20 include Steinway, Bossendofer and Yamaha samples.
 
The thing is, somewhere down the = road, I'd love=20 to get my hands on a great Piano sample CD that has medium sized = samples (say=20 6-16MB), has serious variety (not just a recording of one piano with=20 variations), and has other keys thrown in.
 
Name some really good sample CDs that = would fit=20 this bill please?! I was a little impressed with the Yamaha 7 Foot = 16MB sample=20 on the Roland Rhythm Section Instruments CD that dates back to=20 1991.
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C2BE21.457B4560-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 15:33:34 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:33:26 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:33:22 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.194]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030117203313.RFFF9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:33:13 +0000 Message-ID: <003001c2be67$1dd4f600$c255580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup About Gigapack I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:29:20 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2BE3D.34603D00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2BE3D.34603D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I hope I don't offend anyone with this remark, but when a colleague of = mine asked about the Gigapack II CD, I told him, "The quality of some of = the sounds on this CD will make you so upset, your buttcheeks will fly = off - And that's a surprising feat considering you'd most likely be = sitting down whilst previewing the samples on this CD". I hope this further adds weight to my thought on that CD. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2BE3D.34603D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
I hope I don't offend anyone with this = remark, but=20 when a colleague of mine asked about the Gigapack II CD, I told him, = "The=20 quality of some of the sounds on this CD will make you so upset, your = buttcheeks=20 will fly off - And that's a surprising feat considering you'd most = likely be=20 sitting down whilst previewing the samples on this CD".
 
I hope this further adds weight to my = thought on=20 that CD.
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2BE3D.34603D00-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 15:58:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:57:53 -0500 Received: from hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22837>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:57:43 -0500 Received: from [192.168.200.113] (helo=wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZdYa-0007p8-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:57:40 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.57] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Fri Jan 17 15:57:40 EST 2003 Message-ID: <3199220.1042837060413.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:58:45 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup About Gigapack I Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk LOL! 8-) Good upset or bad upset? Are you saying it's head and shoulder better (or worse) than Gigapack I? In your opinion, if you already have Gigapack I is II worth around $100 (I think this is what the price quoted in Euros comes out to)? Jesse Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > I hope I don't offend anyone with this remark, but when a colleague of mine asked about the Gigapack II CD, I told him, "The quality of some of the sounds on this CD will make you so upset, your buttcheeks will fly off - And that's a surprising feat considering you'd most likely be sitting down whilst previewing the samples on this CD". < - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 17:42:21 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:42:15 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:42:05 -0500 Received: from [192.168.200.113] (helo=wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZfBZ-0001yH-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:42:01 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.58] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Fri Jan 17 17:42:01 EST 2003 Message-ID: <3663803.1042843321518.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:43:07 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk So does anybody switch out piano samples for the different kinds of music? Any specific samples recommended for rock piano, for ballads, for classical sounding stuff? >From what I've personally experienced the Steinway in the Roland Rythum Instruments that Harold mentioned is very good. There's lots of sample CDs that give you a grand piano that's pretty weak. For example the grand piano in the Greytsounds Best of Everything Vol. 1 CD sounds kinda' like a real piano but it's got some weird effects happening along some of its range. You may want to use some of these piano samples for effects like Scritti Politti used to but no way are you going to record it and leave it way up front in the mix as a "real" piano. My D-50 keyboard is in sad shape. I was thinking of getting a cheap, used MIDI controller with 88 weighted keys, but lately I'm wondering if I want to get a used Roland RD or something and use that for piano (as well as my main controller), freeing up sampler voices for something else (plys the kids can always use it to practice piano late at night). 'Any idea what good Roland or Korg piano keyboards go for used these days? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 17:54:19 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:54:11 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:54:04 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.186.146]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030117225402.UWKO12483.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:54:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2be7a$c9f10a60$92ba580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <3199220.1042837060413.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: sgroup About Gigapack I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:50:09 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2BE50.E06260C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2BE50.E06260C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jesse, In these days when money counts (when did it ever not?), I'd say to hang = on to those $$ and invest in a better sample CD. For $199, Ilio has the = Modern Songwriter CD, which is like Gigapack (being an all around meat = and potatoes CD), but has MUCH better quality sounds. I'd do hat or = spend more time hunting for the Club 50 CD at a price of around $50-$75. = Gigapack is a gigaflop. Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jesse Segovia To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: Re: sgroup About Gigapack I > LOL! 8-) Good upset or bad upset? Are you saying it's head and = shoulder better (or worse) than Gigapack I? In your opinion, if you = already have Gigapack I is II worth around $100 (I think this is what = the price quoted in Euros comes out to)? >=20 > Jesse >=20 > Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > > I hope I don't offend anyone with this remark, but when a colleague = of mine asked about the Gigapack II CD, I told him, "The quality of some = of the sounds on this CD will make you so upset, your buttcheeks will = fly off - And that's a surprising feat considering you'd most likely be = sitting down whilst previewing the samples on this CD". < >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2BE50.E06260C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Jesse,
 
In these days when money counts (when = did it ever=20 not?), I'd say to hang on to those $$ and invest in a better sample CD. = For=20 $199, Ilio has the Modern Songwriter CD, which is like Gigapack (being = an all=20 around meat and potatoes CD), but has MUCH better quality sounds. I'd do = hat or=20 spend more time hunting for the Club 50 CD at a price of around $50-$75. = Gigapack is a gigaflop.
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: sgroup About Gigapack=20 I

> LOL!  8-)  = Good upset or=20 bad upset?  Are you saying it's head and shoulder better (or worse) = than=20 Gigapack I?  In your opinion, if you already have Gigapack I is II = worth=20 around $100 (I think this is what the price quoted in Euros comes out=20 to)?
>
> Jesse
>
> Harold Everton, Jr. = wrote:
>=20 > I hope I don't offend anyone with this remark, but when a colleague = of mine=20 asked about the Gigapack II CD, I told him, "The quality of some of the = sounds=20 on this CD will make you so upset, your buttcheeks will fly off - And = that's a=20 surprising feat considering you'd most likely be sitting down whilst = previewing=20 the samples on this CD". <
>
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C2BE50.E06260C0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 18:14:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:13:58 -0500 Received: from pop015.verizon.net (pop015pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.172]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:13:52 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.233.73]) by pop015.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030117231345.PUKW21001.pop015.verizon.net@rickearn> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:13:45 -0600 Message-ID: <00bb01c2be97$417c4ec0$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: Subject: sgroup Introduction/Question Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:13:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C2BE54.307FB000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at pop015.verizon.net from [151.201.233.73] at Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:13:45 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C2BE54.307FB000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, my name is Rick Earnhardt and I am new to this group. I = live in PA and have been in "the business" for 15 years. My main = concern is using my S-50 live...I've had it for 10 years, and it's been = a great machine. Maybe not as convenient as some of the fast loading = and larger memory machines, but I definately have a sentimental = attachment to my equipment. =20 So, my current live rig has become light over the years. Currently, I = run with a Yamaha SY-35, and a DX7 which I use to control the Roland = JV-1080. I run my sequences through my MC500, and most of what I do = live...for dance stuff...is like 95% sequenced. I have ---the only--- = rack mount Juno-1 known to mankind. I got really creative once and took = a saw to my juno and then built a box...wrapped tape around each = card...laid them in the box...cut holes in the panel for the volume and = buttons and shoved it in the rack. voila...I had a working rack mount = Juno. I know - I'm psycho... My S-50 has a short or something on the jack board...I've taken it out = recently and cleaned it, it's trying much harder to work, but at the = same time, I have a bid on ebay for an s-550. I've searched around on = the net but cannot get a definitive answer...so I'm posting my question = to the experts here: Are the disks fully compatible? Can I pop the 550 = in my rack and load the 50 disks and I'm back in business? Or would I = be better off with the 330? I'm looking for a quick, cheap fix, as the = job I'm currently auditioning for will require me to use all the old = samples I have of R&B tunes I've done over the years. Please let me = know - and thanks in advance for your great forum! -Rick Earnhardt richard.earnhardt@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C2BE54.307FB000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone, my name is Rick Earnhardt = and I am new=20 to this group.  I live in PA and have been in "the business" for 15 = years.  My main concern is using my S-50 live...I've had it for 10 = years,=20 and it's been a great machine.  Maybe not as convenient as some of = the fast=20 loading and larger memory machines, but I definately have a sentimental=20 attachment to my equipment. 
 
So, my current live rig has become = light over the=20 years.  Currently, I run with a Yamaha SY-35, and a DX7 which I use = to=20 control the Roland JV-1080.  I run my sequences through my MC500, = and most=20 of what I do live...for dance stuff...is like 95% sequenced.  I = have ---the=20 only--- rack mount Juno-1 known to mankind.  I got really creative = once and=20 took a saw to my juno and then built a box...wrapped tape around each=20 card...laid them in the box...cut holes in the panel for the volume and = buttons=20 and shoved it in the rack.  voila...I had a working rack mount = Juno. =20 I know - I'm psycho...
 
My S-50 has a short or something on the = jack=20 board...I've taken it out recently and cleaned it, it's trying much = harder to=20 work, but at the same time, I have a bid on ebay for an s-550.  = I've=20 searched around on the net but cannot get a definitive answer...so I'm = posting=20 my question to the experts here:  Are the disks fully = compatible?  Can=20 I pop the 550 in my rack and load the 50 disks and I'm back in = business? =20 Or would I be better off with the 330?  I'm looking for a quick, = cheap fix,=20 as the job I'm currently auditioning for will require me to use all the = old=20 samples I have of R&B tunes I've done over the years.  Please = let me=20 know - and thanks in advance for your great forum!
 
 
-Rick Earnhardt
richard.earnhardt@verizon.n= et
------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C2BE54.307FB000-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 18:16:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:16:40 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:16:30 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ZfhN-0007ij-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:14:53 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup About Gigapack I Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:17:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000b01c2be7a$c9f10a60$92ba580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Ilio has the Modern Songwriter CD, which is like Gigapack It is an Akai disc, not a Roland disc. If we start including non Roland discs in our discussions, then there are plenty of good releases out there. If you stick to the Roland format, then there aren't many 'general purpose' discs. Although there are two excellent ones, Global Instruments vol.1 & 2 by Northstar Samples who also made the Drumscape disc. On the piano front, I forgot Concert Grand Piano by Sonic Reality which is in S7 format as well. I've not heard that one so I can't pass comments. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 18:22:44 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:22:36 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:22:30 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Zfn5-00090O-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:20:47 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup Website Sounds Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:23:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000b01c2be7a$c9f10a60$92ba580c@epu1> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I've checked another catalogue and found some discs I had not first seen. So I've reached 127 certified Roland releases (I count sets like Vocal Planet or Miroslav Vitous as one) and just 4 S-550 discs. Let me know if you know any other. Cheers, Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 18:40:05 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:39:57 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:39:47 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Zg3q-000DMq-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:38:06 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Introduction/Question and FAQ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:40:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00bb01c2be97$417c4ec0$641dfea9@rickearn> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Hi everyone, my name is Rick Earnhardt Welcome. > I have ---the only--- rack mount Juno-1 known to mankind... > ...I had a working rack mount Juno. I know - I'm psycho... Can you put a pic on your website if you have one so we can see the result? > Are the disks fully compatible? > Can I pop the 550 in my rack and load the 50 disks > and I'm back in business? Yes. The S-550 will definitely play your S-50 diskettes. The reverse is more complicated since the S-50 lacks the extras provided by the S-550. There is a utility disk to convert S-550 to S-50 discs. You'll find it somewhere in the Sgroup archive. > Or would I be better off with the 330? No difference as far as using S-50 discs. The main advantage of the S-550 is the possibilty to hook a CD-ROM if you have the scsi option. > and thanks in advance for your great forum! I've not been here long but I agree, this list is fairly active, knowledgeable and very friendly compared with others I subscribe to. I'm yet to see the usual sad b****** start a non sensical discussion or take the micky out of somebody's previous post. Refreshing! Are Roland S-users more mature or have better taste? ;-) Another great thing about this list is the fact that it is the main forum. Akai and E-Mu lists tend to be more scattered about. For a beginner, it means more people are likely to read you, and email you with an answer. Lastly, the archive makes good reading if you start with a Roland S as so much has been dealt with over the years. The only thing missing is a decent FAQ. John has put some info in the /information directory but there is a lot in the archives that could make an informative FAQ. Were I not busy doing my S-760 website, I'd probably undertake that task. As it is, we need another volunteer. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 18:57:11 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:57:03 -0500 Received: from siaag1ad.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:56:53 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id SAA20155 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:56:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:56:29 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Introduction/Question To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301171856_MC3-1-2551-C3E4@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >stuff...is like 95% sequenced. I have ---the only--- rack mount Juno-1= >known to mankind. I got really creative once and took a saw to my juno= and >then built a box...wrapped tape around each card...laid them in the >box...cut You do know that the rack MKS50 is the same as a Juno 1... >cannot get a definitive answer...so I'm posting my question to the experts >here: Are the disks fully compatible? Can I pop the 550 in my rack an= d >load the 50 disks and I'm back in business? Or would I be better off with >the 330? If I recall the 330 convert loads s50, and the 500 may not. Fuzzy on this= though. s550 has twice the memory of that matters. But twice the size. What dance stuff do you do? That's what I do.. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 19:08:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:08:47 -0500 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:08:44 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.116.233.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.116.233] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZgXJ-0001DM-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:08:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3E289B37.7020505@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:09:27 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Website Sounds References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Francois Rossi wrote: >I've checked another catalogue and found some discs I had not first seen. So >I've reached 127 certified Roland releases (I count sets like Vocal Planet >or Miroslav Vitous as one) and just 4 S-550 discs. Let me know if you know >any other. > Are they all listed on your web site? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 19:27:20 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:27:12 -0500 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:27:02 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.116.233.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.116.233] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZgpA-0007wd-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:27:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3E289F92.4000303@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:28:02 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup About Gigapack I References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The Sonic Reality CD that interests me is their Vintage Timetraveler CD. Maybe it's just that the demo is especially well-done but it seems like a very nice set to have, although I probably already have most of the vintage keyboards. Did anyone find out if any of the sample CD companies are having NAMM show sales? I received an Ilio catalog in the mail that says you can get $50 off each of about six of their sample CDs, none of which I find particularly interesting. That leaves them still fairly expensive since I think all of them are at least $199.00 each. I can post the complete list if anyone's interested. Jesse Francois Rossi wrote: >>Ilio has the Modern Songwriter CD, which is like Gigapack >> >> > >It is an Akai disc, not a Roland disc. If we start including non Roland >discs in our discussions, then there are plenty of good releases out there. >If you stick to the Roland format, then there aren't many 'general purpose' >discs. Although there are two excellent ones, Global Instruments vol.1 & 2 >by Northstar Samples who also made the Drumscape disc. > >On the piano front, I forgot Concert Grand Piano by Sonic Reality which is >in S7 format as well. I've not heard that one so I can't pass comments. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 19:37:02 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:36:52 -0500 Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:36:42 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.233.73]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030118003633.BECM23484.out001.verizon.net@rickearn> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:36:33 -0600 Message-ID: <00ef01c2bea2$d27d4680$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: Subject: RE: sgroup Introduction/Question and FAQ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:32:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C2BE5F.322D5F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at out001.verizon.net from [151.201.233.73] at Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:36:33 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C2BE5F.322D5F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I have ---the only--- rack mount Juno-1 known to mankind... > ...I had a working rack mount Juno. I know - I'm psycho... Can you put a pic on your website if you have one so we can see the = result? Ok, it's primitive, but you should get the idea. I took a short video = with my video camera and took still shots with my tv card. =20 I should have posted my website with the original post, but here's the = site: www.steelcitymusic.tk the direct link to the pics is rickearnhardt.nstemp.com/equipment.html hope you enjoy my madness :) thanks for the answer on the 550 - i'll continue bidding on ebay :) Rick ------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C2BE5F.322D5F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> I have=20 ---the only--- rack mount Juno-1 known to mankind...
> ...I had a = working=20 rack mount Juno.  I know - I'm psycho...

Can you put a pic = on your=20 website if you have one so we can see the result?


Ok, it's = primitive, but you should get the idea.  I took a short video with = my video=20 camera and took still shots with my tv card. 
I should have posted my website with = the original=20 post, but here's the site:  www.steelcitymusic.tk
 
the direct link to the pics is rickearnhardt.nstemp= .com/equipment.html
 
hope you enjoy my madness = :)
 
thanks for the answer on the 550 - i'll = continue=20 bidding on ebay :)
 
 
Rick
------=_NextPart_000_00DA_01C2BE5F.322D5F00-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 19:37:04 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:36:54 -0500 Received: from out001.verizon.net (out001pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.140]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 19:36:42 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.233.73]) by out001.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030118003634.BECQ23484.out001.verizon.net@rickearn> for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:36:34 -0600 Message-ID: <00f001c2bea2$d2e99ce0$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: Subject: RE: sgroup Introduction/Question Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:36:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C2BE5F.C2BF9060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at out001.verizon.net from [151.201.233.73] at Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:36:33 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C2BE5F.C2BF9060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >stuff...is like 95% sequenced. I have ---the only--- rack mount = Juno-1 >known to mankind. I got really creative once and took a saw to my = juno and >then built a box...wrapped tape around each card...laid them in the >box...cut You do know that the rack MKS50 is the same as a Juno 1... I do know this, yes, I was just in one of those moods one night :), = can't stop tweaking sometimes. >cannot get a definitive answer...so I'm posting my question to the experts >here: Are the disks fully compatible? Can I pop the 550 in my rack = and >load the 50 disks and I'm back in business? Or would I be better off with >the 330? If I recall the 330 convert loads s50, and the 500 may not. Fuzzy on = this though. s550 has twice the memory of that matters. But twice the size. Awesome...thanks for the info!!!! What dance stuff do you do? I do 70's 80's and 90's dance stuff...I'm getting ready to work full = time on a tour boat in Pittsburgh, PA as a "second chair" sequencer...I = guess would be a descriptive title...lol. I do alot of sampling...like = atomic dog, creep by TLC, the system, the time, prince, etc. -Rick ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C2BE5F.C2BF9060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 >stuff...is like 95% sequenced.  I have ---the = only--- rack=20 mount Juno-1
 >known to mankind.  I got really creative = once and=20 took a saw to my juno
and
 >then built a box...wrapped = tape around=20 each card...laid them in the
 >box...cut

You do know = that the=20 rack MKS50 is the same as a Juno 1...
 
 
I do know this, yes, I was just in one of those = moods one=20 night :), can't stop tweaking sometimes.


 >cannot get a definitive answer...so I'm posting = my=20 question to the
experts
 >here:  Are the disks fully=20 compatible?  Can I pop the 550 in my rack and
 >load the = 50=20 disks and I'm back in business?  Or would I be better=20 off
with
 >the 330?

If I recall the 330 convert = loads s50,=20 and the 500 may not. Fuzzy on this
though.

s550 has twice the = memory=20 of that matters. But twice the size.
Awesome...thanks for the = info!!!!
 
 
What dance stuff do you do?
I do 70's 80's and 90's dance stuff...I'm getting ready to work = full time=20 on a tour boat in Pittsburgh, PA as a "second chair" sequencer...I guess = would=20 be a descriptive title...lol.  I do alot of sampling...like atomic = dog,=20 creep by TLC, the system, the time, prince, etc.
-Rick
------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C2BE5F.C2BF9060-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 20:05:26 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:05:18 -0500 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:05:08 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.116.233.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.116.233] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ZhQ1-0005vj-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:05:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3E28A87F.6020803@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:06:07 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel References: <3663803.1042843321518.JavaMail.nobody@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> <001501c2be7d$54f92a00$92ba580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Considering you have an S760, DON'T get one of those Roland D > controllers unless you plan on gigging out with it. In that case, the > RD would come in handy as it would be portable. In the other case, you > could pop for a Roland controller (such as the A70, A50, A80, etc) or > one of the cheaper Studio Logic controllers (SL61, SL161, SL760, > SL880, etc), and buy a boatload of piano sample CDs. Well, I just started looking but it seems that used RD digital pianos aren't much more expensive and may even be cheaper than used A-80s. All things being equal, why not get the piano sounds (and electric piano, organ, harpsichord, etc.) along with the keyboard? > The Yamaha and Steinway Pianos are pretty good on the Roland Rhythm > Section CD, but the stereo image is way to wide and unrealistic. Also, > the room ambiance included in the samples really irritates me. I have the individual Rhythm Section CDs, Drums & Cymbals and Guitars & Bass, but Roland never broke out the keyboards from this set, did they? I have some of the Roland piano samples on the Preview CD and the Jazz Composers CD but I just took a look at all the patches I have there and compared it to what the liner notes in the Preview disk say about the Rhythm Section piano patches and it looks like I'm missing lots of stuff. And does anyone know what ever happened to the Roland Modern Sonics CD? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 20:19:48 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:19:39 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:19:28 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.210] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Zhjr-0003vZ-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:25:35 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:20:31 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3E28A87F.6020803@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > In the other case, you could pop for a Roland controller > (such as the A70, A50, A80, etc) or > one of the cheaper Studio Logic controllers (SL61, SL161, SL760, > SL880, etc), and buy a boatload of piano sample CDs. The Fatar / Studio Logic may be cheap but their heavy key action controllers are fantastic. I own a Fatar 900 and the heavy key action is perfect for me. If you need the bells and whistles, get the SL 2001. > And does anyone know what ever happened to the Roland Modern Sonics CD? Was that an Sonic Reality release? I couldn't find it in catalogues going back to 1998. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 21:50:12 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:50:03 -0500 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20988>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:50:00 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.116.233.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.116.233] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18Zj3P-0002h7-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:49:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3E28C10A.70308@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:50:50 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francois Rossi CC: Sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup The SGroup Piano Duel References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Francois Rossi wrote: >The Fatar / Studio Logic may be cheap but their heavy key action controllers >are fantastic. I own a Fatar 900 and the heavy key action is perfect for me. >If you need the bells and whistles, get the SL 2001. > The Fatars are cheap brand new - maybe I should check them out used. >>And does anyone know what ever happened to the Roland Modern Sonics CD? >> >> >Was that an Sonic Reality release? I couldn't find it in catalogues going >back to 1998. > That's a Roland library sample CD that's described in the liner notes of the Preview sample CD. It apparently had lots of the effects sound library you get on some of the Roland samplers and synths - things like waterphones (one of my all-time favorite samples!), struck salad bowels, plucked refrigerators, etc. It also seemed to have a large library of analog and digital synth sounds, pads & stacks. From the description it sounds pretty nice. By the way, I paid $14 or $15 for the Roland sample preview; it's an EXCELLENT CD that has some fantastic samples on it. For the money you cannot beat it. I know Harold has a copy - anybody else familiar with it? If you've got a Roland S-700 series sampler I highly recommend getting it (assuming it's still available through Roland). Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 22:42:28 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:42:19 -0500 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13705>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:42:16 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.116.233.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.116.233] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18Zjry-0006M6-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:42:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3E28CD4C.1090408@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:43:08 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sgroup Subject: sgroup [Fwd: NAMM SHOW SALE - SAVE UP TO 60%!!!] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070909080906050006000302" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --------------070909080906050006000302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 'Sounds kinda strange - you have to actually get ready to buy the merchandise; when you check out, you enter the promotion code below and it'll tell you your discount. I guess if there's something you're going to buy anyway (or if you're willing to go to the site and pretend to buy just to see what the discount is) it's worth it. Jesse -------- Original Message -------- Subject: NAMM SHOW SALE - SAVE UP TO 60%!!! Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:54:14 -0800 From: webmaster@soundsonline.com YOUR #1 SOURCE FOR PROFESSIONAL ROYALTY FREE SOUNDS http://www.soundsonline.com The 2003 WINTER NAMM TRADE SHOW opens today. NAMM is open to the music trade only, however, you can get the same 30-60% discount off the list price of all our products at http://www.soundsonline.com from now until the show closes next Sunday, January 19. 2003. ********************************************* OUR NAMM SALE IS NOW ON - ALL PRICES ARE SLASHED!!! ********************************************* To take advantage of this EXCLUSIVE OFFER THAT IS ONLY AVAILABLE ONLINE - AND IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY STORE - add the items you want to your SHOPPING CART. When you get to the CHECK OUT page, enter the PROMOTIONAL code NAMM2003 in the 'promotional code' window. Click on RECALCULATE to receive your discount. PLEASE NOTE - YOU WILL NOT SEE YOUR DISCOUNTED PRICE UNTIL YOU GET TO THE CHECK OUT PAGE AND ENTER THE PROMOTIONAL CODE. ********************************************* PROMOTIONAL CODE: NAMM2003 ********************************************* PLUS - FREE SHIPPING WORLDWIDE for orders over $150!!! (limited-time offer) PLUS - NO SALES TAX (if you live outside of California) HURRY! SALE ENDS THIS COMING SUNDAY JANUARY 19, 2003 AT MIDNIGHT (WHILE STOCKS LAST)!!! (*Average discount is approximately 30% - clearance items up to 60% off. Sale starts now, and ends Sunday January 19, 2003 at midnight USA Pacific standard time. Bundle discounts can not be combined with promotional codes) ********************************************* ALL ITEMS ARE SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY - SO HURRY!!! ********************************************* SECURITY and PRIVACY We GUARANTEE your shopping at soundsonline.com is safe. We NEVER sell or rent our list of customers to ANYONE. Our secure server software (SSL) is the industry standard, and amongst the best software available today for secure commerce transactions. It encrypts ALL of your personal information including credit card number, name, and address, so that it cannot be read as the information travels over the Internet. ********************************************* SOUNDS ONLINE is a division of East West Communications, Inc. All rights reserved. If you prefer not to receive email from Sounds Online, go to http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/unsubscribe.phtml and fill in your email address and select 'unsubscribe' --------------070909080906050006000302 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------090206010109090403050805" --------------090206010109090403050805 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 'Sounds kinda strange - you have to actually get ready to buy the merchandise; when you check out, you enter the promotion code below and it'll tell you your discount.

I guess if there's something you're going to buy anyway (or if you're willing to go to the site and pretend to buy just to see what the discount is) it's worth it.

Jesse

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: NAMM SHOW SALE - SAVE UP TO 60%!!!
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:54:14 -0800
From: webmaster@soundsonline.com


NAMM SHOW SALE - SAVE UP TO 60%!!!

YOUR #1 SOURCE FOR PROFESSIONAL ROYALTY FREE SOUNDS


The 2003 WINTER NAMM TRADE SHOW opens today. NAMM is open to the music trade only, however, you can get the same 30-60% discount off the list price of all our products at http://www.soundsonline.com from now until the show closes next Sunday, January 19. 2003.

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OUR NAMM SALE IS NOW ON - ALL PRICES ARE SLASHED!!!  

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To take advantage of this EXCLUSIVE OFFER THAT IS ONLY AVAILABLE ONLINE - AND IS NOT AVAILABLE IN ANY STORE - add the items you want to your SHOPPING CART.  When you get to the CHECK OUT page, enter the PROMOTIONAL code NAMM2003 in the 'promotional code' window.  Click on RECALCULATE to receive your discount.

PLEASE NOTE - YOU WILL NOT SEE YOUR DISCOUNTED PRICE UNTIL YOU GET TO THE CHECK OUT PAGE AND ENTER THE PROMOTIONAL CODE.

*********************************************

PROMOTIONAL CODE: NAMM2003

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PLUS - FREE SHIPPING WORLDWIDE for orders over $150!!! (limited-time offer)

PLUS - NO SALES TAX (if you live outside of California)

HURRY! SALE ENDS THIS COMING SUNDAY JANUARY 19, 2003 AT MIDNIGHT (WHILE STOCKS LAST)!!!

(*Average discount is approximately 30% - clearance items up to 60% off.  Sale starts now, and ends Sunday January 19, 2003 at midnight USA Pacific standard time. Bundle discounts can not be combined with promotional codes)

*********************************************

ALL ITEMS ARE SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY - SO HURRY!!!

*********************************************

SECURITY and PRIVACY

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sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 17 23:56:10 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-6150>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:56:02 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-6150>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:55:52 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.86.125]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030118045547.DBLY9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 04:55:47 +0000 Message-ID: <003201c2bead$53dce3c0$7d56580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup About the Roland Modern Sonics CD Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:51:55 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C2BE83.6A469900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C2BE83.6A469900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All,=20 You'll probably all get upset at this, but here it goes. I never came = across the CD that Jessie talked about until last week. While looking at = some Ebay auctions, I saw some guy selling a Roland S760 with the = Orchestra CD, Rhythm Section CD, and the . . . you guessed. . .Modern = Sonics CD. I think the auction is still up. Bear in mind though, this = auction is for the Sampler and the sample CDs. The auctioneer doesn't = talk much about the contents of the CD, but at least you can see the = cover: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2500436669&category=3D= 1289 Oops, wait (I went to look fo the link as I was typing this) - It looks = like no one won the auction. Maybe one of you could talk the guy into = selling you the CD. I'm not really into that kind of stuff. Perhaps = maybe one of you would be interested. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C2BE83.6A469900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
You'll probably all get upset at this, = but here it=20 goes. I never came across the CD that Jessie talked about until last = week. While=20 looking at some Ebay auctions, I saw some guy selling a Roland S760 with = the=20 Orchestra CD, Rhythm Section CD, and the . . . you guessed. . .Modern = Sonics CD.=20 I think the auction is still up. Bear in mind though, this auction is = for the=20 Sampler and the sample CDs. The auctioneer doesn't talk much about the = contents=20 of the CD, but at least you can see the cover:
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&= ;item=3D2500436669&category=3D1289
 
Oops, wait (I went to look fo the link = as I was=20 typing this) - It looks like no one won the auction. Maybe one of you = could talk=20 the guy into selling you the CD. I'm not really into that kind of stuff. = Perhaps=20 maybe one of you would be interested.
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C2BE83.6A469900-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 00:17:03 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:16:55 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f32.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.32]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:16:49 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:16:45 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.242 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 05:16:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.242] From: "gtrplaya !" To: richard.earnhardt@verizon.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Introduction/Question Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:16:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jan 2003 05:16:45.0062 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB175260:01C2BEB0] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Greetings Rick, and welcome! I'd love to hear your stuff, I do R&B, mainly late 80's - mid 90's feel, jazz funk, house, gospel. My weapon of choice is the Roland S-550 The are two software packages that will do what u need. First is SDISK for Windows v1.3 Windows replacement for former S-DISK program. Program can load and save floppy images of DD diskettes used by Roland samplers (S50, S330, S550, W30) for backup and use on PC compactible computers. It can also show Roland MEMO notes for better orientation. Commandline functionality. Windows 9X/2000/XP compatible Copyright (C) 2002 Miroslav Svetlik (frankie) frankie@frankie.sk http://w30.frankie.sk/sdiskw/ Second is sys-502, which you will find in the sgroup archives. Ypu'll need a S-550 to use it. I echo Francois's early sentiments about the group. I joined as a newbie when I first got my S-550 back in '96, left the group, then recently came back, only to find it just as active. You'll enjoy it here. Cheers, Doug After Six Productions http://www.geocities.com/a6productions On Friday, 17 Jan 2002, wrote: >Are the disks fully compatible? Can I pop the 550 in my rack and load >the >50 disks and I'm back in business? Or would I be better off with >the 330? > I'm looking for a quick, cheap fix, as the job I'm currently >auditioning >for will require me to use all the old samples I have of >R&B tunes I've >done over the years. Please let me know - and thanks >in advance for your >great forum! > > >-Rick Earnhardt >richard.earnhardt@verizon.net _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 01:21:11 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:21:03 -0500 Received: from pop015.verizon.net (pop015pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.172]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:20:57 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.233.73]) by pop015.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030118062048.RLMR21001.pop015.verizon.net@rickearn> for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:20:48 -0600 Message-ID: <003301c2bed2$e89fedc0$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: Subject: Re: sgroup Introduction/Question Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 04:20:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C2BE8F.D79A2740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at pop015.verizon.net from [151.201.233.73] at Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:20:47 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C2BE8F.D79A2740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick, I went to your site looking for your "rackmount Juno 1". I didn't find = it=20 (slow connection), but I really enjoyed your samples, especially Oh = Sheila!!=20 Funky!!! (Nice bass). I like Boogie Nights and Every Little Step (nice = The=20 System-type arrangement...) Kudos, Doug Doug - Thanks for the SDisk info...and the compliment on the site. The = pics are at the bottom of the "equipment page". Unfortunately, I can't = claim anything except what you hear on the "samples" page - those are = audio tracks of my sequences, but the midis that load with each page = were found elsewhere on the net - they were kind of "the best" of what I = could find out there. =20 Just as an update, I took my s50 to an electronics shop tonite, tried to = have him clean the jack board a little better than I could, and when we = hooked it back up, it was performing even worse. I'm still bidding on = the 550, but if I can get the 50 working again, it might be nice as a = backup. I found a company in Canada that has a jack board in stock - = they haven't responded yet to my request for pricing. Anyone have any = suggestions as to where I might find such a part? He gave me a phone = number where I can call Roland but I don't know if they'll sell direct = to me. I think it's the relay in the board that went bad, but I know = it's often true that you can replace the whole PCB cheaper than trying = to replace something soddered to it. Any suggestions would be = appreciated. Thanks again to all for your help! -Rick ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C2BE8F.D79A2740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rick,
I went=20 to your site looking for your "rackmount Juno 1". I didn't find it =
(slow=20 connection), but I really enjoyed your samples, especially Oh Sheila!!=20
Funky!!! (Nice bass). I like Boogie Nights and Every Little Step = (nice The=20
System-type = arrangement...)

Kudos,
Doug

 
Doug - Thanks for the SDisk info...and = the=20 compliment on the site.  The pics are at the bottom of the = "equipment=20 page".  Unfortunately, I can't claim anything except what you hear = on the=20 "samples" page - those are audio tracks of my sequences, but the midis = that load=20 with each page were found elsewhere on the net - they were kind of "the = best" of=20 what I could find out there. 
 
Just as an update, I took my s50 to an = electronics=20 shop tonite, tried to have him clean the jack board a little better than = I=20 could, and when we hooked it back up, it was performing even = worse.  I'm=20 still bidding on the 550, but if I can get the 50 working again, it = might be=20 nice as a backup.  I found a company in Canada that has a jack = board in=20 stock - they haven't responded yet to my request for pricing.  = Anyone have=20 any suggestions as to where I might find such a part?  He gave me a = phone=20 number where I can call Roland but I don't know if they'll sell direct = to=20 me.   I think it's the relay in the board that went bad, but I = know=20 it's often true that you can replace the whole PCB cheaper than trying = to=20 replace something soddered to it.  Any suggestions would be=20 appreciated.
 
Thanks again to all for your = help!
 
 
-Rick
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C2BE8F.D79A2740-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 20:02:36 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:02:28 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:02:25 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0J12LH60325 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:02:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mta06ps.bigpond.com ([144.135.25.138]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:53:54 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.7] ([144.135.25.78]) by mta06ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta06ps May 23 2002 23:53:28) with SMTP id H8XRTL00.BSP for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:53:45 +1000 Received: from CPE-203-51-65-73.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([203.51.65.73]) by PSMAM04.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0n 98/37851770); 19 Jan 2003 10:53:45 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:53:45 -0500 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: Roland S760 List Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Message-ID: <3898696.1042977225@[192.168.0.7]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Glyn wrote: > How difficult would it have been for Roland to modify the code for the > S760 to reply correctly to a SCSI 2 Device Inquiry message? I think it might be more difficult than it seems, as I believe this is in the hardware side of their SCSI implementation, not in the OS. After all, none of the disks on your SCSI chain have an OS which can respond to a SCSI 2 Device Inquiry message - it's in their firmware. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 20:02:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:02:28 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:02:24 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0J12DM60318 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:02:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mta04ps.bigpond.com ([144.135.25.136]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:51:18 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.7] ([144.135.25.69]) by mta04ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta04ps Jul 16 2002 22:47:55) with SMTP id H8XRPB00.1PB for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:51:11 +1000 Received: from CPE-203-51-65-73.nsw.bigpond.net.au ([203.51.65.73]) by PSMAM01.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0n 71/16244828); 19 Jan 2003 10:51:11 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:51:11 -0500 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup GigaPackI Message-ID: <3744354.1042977071@[192.168.0.7]> In-Reply-To: <001d01c2be5c$c8662040$5553580c@epu1> References: <001d01c2be5c$c8662040$5553580c@epu1> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > I have Gigapack 1. I'll say this - This would NOT be your only source for > GOOD sounds. having said that, I'll add that it can be a good SOURCE of > sounds. [...] I've heard a lot of the Gigapack 1 sounds, and would agree with Harold here. But I also doubt the legitimacy of some of the sounds on that set. There were at least three loops that I recognised from actual songs. "So what?" you may ask - those loops were probably used on the songs rather than sampled from the songs. But in one of them I definitely noticed at the beginning of the loop a decay from what was most likely to be a separate instrument solo line just preceding the loop in the song. Check the fine print on the CD case - I recall it says something about the samples coming from someone's private collection, and I didn't notice a grant of license letting you use the sounds for anything other than private use. But I could be mis-remembering here, so take that statement with a grain of salt. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 20:21:44 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:21:40 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:21:24 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.75.182.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.75.182] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18a492-0003l1-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:21:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3E29FD7D.6030009@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:21:01 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sgroup Subject: sgroup Northstar Drumscapes Sample CD Notes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk As I've said before, as I find the time I'm going through all my sample CDs one at a time, trying to listen to each of them, at least all the major categories on the CD, to get a better feel for them and find out, as I start recording again, which ones are going to be useful and where. When I'm recording, I want to be recording and not filing through CDs and floppy disks for nice sounds. So I occasionally go through all my sounds and make these kind of notes to myself. Here's the first one I've done for my sample CDs - hopefully I'll have the time to go through my whole library and if nobody minds I'll share them with the group. Overall the drums on this CD sound excellent. It's an extremely musical, very useful collection. It's got lots of loops and fills along with each different kit which I'm not interesting in - I guess if nothing else they're a good indicator of how the entire kit sounds together and what you might do with it. I don't mention those here at all. These are just my own notes on the CD, something to use to quickly find good sounds or specific sounds for a specific type of song. Some may disagree with these comments - I'd love to hear differing opinions to help me maybe rethink some of this. I hope all of this makes sense; if not let me know and I'll explain anything in more detail. *Fast Rock very nice hard rock sounds lots of reverb (room), some gating very nice hi-hats (foot hh on Bb2) & very nice crash cymbals, nice ride (dances around panning) nice, deep, angry toms, four toms (floor tom on F2) two different snares on D2 and E2, very nice rock kick and snares *Med. Rock very nice medium, more modern rock sounds less room reverb, no gate? nice hi-hats (foot hh on Bb2) & OK crash cymbals, OK ride (dances around panning) OK, bouncier, 'rubbier' toms, four toms (floor tom on F2) two different snares, very nice dead rock kick and open, modern sounding snares *Pwr Ballad nice big rock sounds lots of reverb (room), some gating very nice hi-hats (foot hh on Bb2) & nice crash cymbals, very nice ride, velocity bell (dances around panning) very nice, deep open toms, but lots of gate & reverb; four toms (floor tom on F2) two different snares, nice hard kick and nice snares but maybe too big? *Fast Shuff nice medium rock sounds very nice hi-hats, velocity slightly opened hat on G#2 (foot hh on Bb2) nice crash cymbals, maybe a little soft; very nice ride, velocity bell (dances around panning) very nice deep toms, maybe a little too much room & gate, four toms (floor tom on F2) two different snares, nice rock kick and snares, maybe snares are a little soft at regular velocity *Slow Shuff noisy, very gated nice hi-hats, but strange stuff happening with notes-off and F#2 hat; velocity slightly opened hat on G#2 (foot hh on Bb2) OK but very drum machine crash cymbals, nice ride (dances around panning) OK toms but way too much room & gate, four toms, but floor sounds too much like low rack tom (floor tom on F2) two different snares, nice rock kick but snares are a bit noisy at regular velocity )nice at high velocity) *Fast Tekno the 1980s rule! lots of reverb (room), some gating nice hi-hats (foot hh on Bb2) OK but drum machine crash cymbals, nice ride, velocity bell (dances around panning) big, rubbery toms, too much room & gate on velocity, four toms (floor tom on F2) two different snares, noisy rock kick snares are very noisy & gated, very 80s *Med Tekno the 1980s still rule! lots of reverb (room), some gating OK hi-hats (foot hh on Bb2) nice, very hi-pitched crash cymbals, nice ride nice bouncy toms, very nice soft velocity high tom, a little too much room & gate on velocity, four toms (floor tom on F2) nice but noisy rock kick snares are noisy & gated, very 80s, but nice at very high velocity *R&B Groove funky, very good for funky rock a little room, almost dry very nice hi-hats (foot hh on Bb2) very nice crash cymbals, very nice ride, velocity bell (dances around panning) very nice realistic woody toms, four toms (floor tom on F2) nice kick, maybe a little hard two different snares, very nice crisp, slappy snares *Hip Hop light sounding, OK for very edgy R&B maybe a little room, almost dry OK hi-hats, some strange off-note stuff with F#2 (foot hh on Bb2) OK but very drum machine crash cymbals, nice ride, velocity bell (dances around panning) nice high pitched toms, four toms (floor tom on F2) nice kick, maybe a little hard two different snares, very high pitched, nice but E2 has cut decay like a drum machine *Funk nice kit but snares are too high, OK for edgy R&B a little room, almost dry very nice hi-hats, velocity slightly opened hat on G#2 (foot hh on Bb2) OK crash cymbals but slightly drum machinery, nice ride, velocity soft bell (dances around panning) nice woody sounding toms, a bit too much gate on high velocity, four toms (floor tom on F2) nice tight kick two different snares, very high pitched, very open; almost like Hip Hop patch but a little more lively *Motown nice, tight funky sounding a little room, almost dry except for toms nice hi-hats, velocity slightly opened hat on G#2 (foot hh on Bb2) nice crash cymbals, high pitched; nice ride, velocity soft bell (dances around panning) nice high pitched toms, very noisy, four toms (floor tom on F2) nice low kick two different snares, nice tight, high pitched, very open; almost like Hip Hop patch but a little more lively *A/C Jazz very nice realistic sounding small kit some room reverb, especially toms & snares nice tight hi-hats, velocity slightly opened hat on G#2 (foot hh on Bb2) nice crash cymbals but a little drum machinery; nice ride (dances around panning) very nice woody toms, high pitched, but lots of reverb, four toms (floor tom on F2) nice low kick two different snares, very nice tight, punchy & realistic, a bit too much room *P/C Ballad very nice realistic sounding small kit some room reverb, especially toms & snares very nice hi-hats, velocity slightly opened hat on G#2 (foot hh on Bb2) nice, fast, high pitched crash cymbals; nice ride (dances around panning) very nice woody toms, a bit of room, four toms (floor tom on F2) nice tight kick, a bit of reverb two different snares, realistic, lots of reverb, not enough definition at normal velocity but nice at high velocity *Bonus percussion nice mark tree, finger snaps, castanets, very nice vibraslap, triangles or bells, shakers, tambourines, claps also 808 or 909 kicks, snares & toms nice collection of conga, bongo, tabla hits very nice gongs also very nice extra China & splash cymbals - should manually add to to each rock drum patch you use - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 21:32:24 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:32:15 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:32:05 -0500 Received: from [80.46.167.112] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18a5Ax-000Lnt-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:27:07 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup More updates to the S-760 website Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:33:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Three more updates in the tips and tricks section. - repairs: where to send your broken S-760 - floppy: info on replacing a defective unit (specs, jumper position...) - LCD display: specs and where to get it replaced The floppy section is also applicable to previous S series. Francois s760.us.tt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 21:57:02 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:56:55 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:56:49 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.163.48.190]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030119025833.ITMN3410.mail@[208.163.48.190]>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:58:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:56:43 -0500 To: "Francois Rossi" , "Sgroup" From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup More updates to the S-760 website Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 9:33 PM -0500 18/1/2003, Francois Rossi wrote: >Three more updates in the tips and tricks section. > >- repairs: where to send your broken S-760 > >- floppy: info on replacing a defective unit (specs, jumper position...) > >- LCD display: specs and where to get it replaced > >The floppy section is also applicable to previous S series. > > >Francois >s760.us.tt > I must tell you this is one wicked site. I for one thank you big time for the effort and time it must have taken, plus the love to put into it..... rsp proud owner of two, that you couldn't get from my cold dead hands :-) -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 22:03:30 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:03:23 -0500 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:03:16 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.75.182.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.75.182] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18a5ju-0004h3-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:03:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3E2A15B4.5010803@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:04:20 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup More updates to the S-760 website References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Francois Rossi wrote: >- LCD display: specs and where to get it replaced > You may want to include directions on how to actually replace this yourself. The last I checked Roland will sell these to you but they won't provide instructions on how to actually do the installation, since I guess you may hurt the unit or worse, hurt yourself. 'Anybody actually done the installation themselves? Me, my display is a little shot but since I'm using the monitor/mouse combo I don't really care. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 22:06:42 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:06:34 -0500 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:06:24 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.75.182.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.75.182] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18a5mo-00028g-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:06:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3E2A1668.8020609@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:07:20 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: sgroup What is this? (Roland Sample Archive for the S-770 Digital Sampler) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Check this out on ebay; it's called a Roland Sample Archive for the S-770 Digital Sampler: ttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=936724680&category=3278 What is it? It's not a CD-ROM, is it? Did the S-770 take some strange kind of data cassette format? This guy's selling about nine of them on ebay. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 22:45:12 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22252>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:45:04 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:44:54 -0500 Received: from [80.46.153.12] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18a6UA-00005I-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 03:51:02 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup More updates to the S-760 website Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:46:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3E2A15B4.5010803@mindspring.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >>- LCD display: specs and where to get it replaced >You may want to include directions on how to actually replace this >yourself. Good point. Added to the to-do list. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 18 22:48:47 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:48:41 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22251>; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:48:26 -0500 Received: from [80.46.153.12] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18a6XY-0000BH-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 03:54:32 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup What is this? (Roland Sample Archive for the S-770 Digital Sampler) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:49:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3E2A1668.8020609@mindspring.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Check this out on ebay; it's called a Roland Sample Archive for the >S-770 Digital Sampler: Unless I'm wrong, this could be a magneto-optical cartridge containing some samples for the S-770. The MO unit was the Roland MO-7 released in 1989. Good info. I didn't know that existed. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 00:02:57 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:02:51 -0500 Received: from siaab1ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:02:44 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaab1ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id AAA24790 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:02:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 00:02:17 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup What is this? (Roland Sample Archive for the S-770 Digital Sa To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301190002_MC3-1-256F-94DA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >Unless I'm wrong, this could be a magneto-optical cartridge containing some >samples for the S-770. The MO unit was the Roland MO-7 released in 1989= . They released the archives on Syquest 44 cartridges. I have one. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 02:49:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:49:41 -0500 Received: from siaag1af.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:49:35 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1af.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id CAA19041 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:49:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:49:11 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup chicken sys To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301190249_MC3-1-2560-AF1@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk i was at namm.. chicken sys translator will FINALLY properly support s7x in the new versi= on due feb 14th. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 08:23:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 08:23:28 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f117.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 08:23:18 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 05:23:14 -0800 Received: from 217.215.29.35 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:23:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.215.29.35] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup chicken sys Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 08:23:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 13:23:14.0899 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC00BA30:01C2BFBD] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Gaaaahhh, They promised support for the S7XX series a year ago. I finally gave up and sold my Roland box due to lack of support to use Akai discs. Crap! I guess i need to find myself another S7XX.... :( //Daniel >i was at namm.. > >chicken sys translator will FINALLY properly support s7x in the new version >due feb 14th. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 11:15:02 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:14:53 -0500 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:14:42 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.69.107.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.69.107] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18aI5k-0001J1-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3E2ACF2A.6010609@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:15:38 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup chicken sys References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > > >> i was at namm.. >> >> chicken sys translator will FINALLY properly support s7x in the new >> version >> due feb 14th. > Full wav file to S7X format conversion, for example? Is there anything about this on their website? And I guess they always did Akai S1000 to S7X, right? 'Anything else interesting at NAMM? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 12:29:27 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:19 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.105]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:16 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.28.3229e171 (3842) for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:03 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <28.3229e171.2b5c3a5f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:03 -0500 Subject: sgroup OP760 monitor options: RCA ??? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello to the list! I'm about to become a first-time owner of a sampler, and I've chosen the s760. One seller has told me he has a composite, monochrome monitor connected to the sampler using an RCA cable...? I've not seen a reference to this type of connection in any of the online docs (like at Francois' pages). Is there a single RCA plug above or below a single SPDIF IN that will output to a such a monitor using an RCA plug? also: is there a convenient way to search the archives? thanks!! myrios from california - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 12:40:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:39:56 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:39:47 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.4c.16cd530e (3842) for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:39:40 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <4c.16cd530e.2b5c3cdc@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:39:40 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup OP760 monitor options: RCA ??? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk ps: here's a picture explaining my confusion: http://www.myrios.com/photos/rca_video.jpg In a message dated 1/19/03 9:29:56 AM, Myrios@aol.com writes: >Hello to the list! I'm about to become a first-time owner of a sampler, >and >I've chosen the s760. > >One seller has told me he has a composite, monochrome monitor connected >to >the sampler using an RCA cable...? I've not seen a reference to this type >of >connection in any of the online docs (like at Francois' pages). Is there >a >single RCA plug above or below a single SPDIF IN that will output to a >such a >monitor using an RCA plug? > >also: is there a convenient way to search the archives? > >thanks!! >myrios from california > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-xd01.mx.aol.com (rly-xd01.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.166]) >by air-xd05.mail.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXD51-0119122956; >Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:56 -0500 >Received: from hugin.uunet.ca (hugin.uunet.ca [209.167.141.2]) by rly-xd01.mx.aol.com >(v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXD15-0119122939; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:39 >-0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193726-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:37 >-0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:27 >-0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:19 >-0500 >Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.105]) by hugin.uunet.ca >with ESMTP id <193715-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:16 -0500 >Received: from Myrios@aol.com > by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.28.3229e171 (3842) > for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:03 -0500 (EST) >From: Myrios@aol.com >Message-ID: <28.3229e171.2b5c3a5f@aol.com> >Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:29:03 -0500 >Subject: sgroup OP760 monitor options: RCA ??? >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 >Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Precedence: bulk > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 12:40:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:40:07 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:39:56 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.163.48.190]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030119174144.PLHP3410.mail@[208.163.48.190]>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:41:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <28.3229e171.2b5c3a5f@aol.com> References: <28.3229e171.2b5c3a5f@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:39:53 -0500 To: Myrios@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup OP760 monitor options: RCA ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 12:29 PM -0500 19/1/2003, Myrios@aol.com wrote: >Hello to the list! I'm about to become a first-time owner of a sampler, and >I've chosen the s760. > >One seller has told me he has a composite, monochrome monitor connected to >the sampler using an RCA cable...? I've not seen a reference to this type of >connection in any of the online docs (like at Francois' pages). Is there a >single RCA plug above or below a single SPDIF IN that will output to a such a >monitor using an RCA plug? > >also: is there a convenient way to search the archives? composite does use a regular rca cable... a rca audio cable will work too. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 12:44:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:44:52 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:44:36 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.163.48.190]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030119174618.PMIO3410.mail@[208.163.48.190]>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:46:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4c.16cd530e.2b5c3cdc@aol.com> References: <4c.16cd530e.2b5c3cdc@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:44:23 -0500 To: Myrios@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup OP760 monitor options: RCA ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 12:39 PM -0500 19/1/2003, Myrios@aol.com wrote: >ps: here's a picture explaining my confusion: > >http://www.myrios.com/photos/rca_video.jpg I think they are labelled.... I could be wrong, but I think the yellow one is composite, which can use regular rca audio cable. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 13:09:54 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:09:48 -0500 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:09:38 -0500 Received: from dialup-63.214.69.107.dial1.boston1.level3.net ([63.214.69.107] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18aJt1-0001Nz-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:09:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3E2AEA1F.5010405@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:10:39 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup chicken sys References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Glyn wrote >I guess they figured that as the Roland was old & unsupported most owners >would be looking to upgrade to another format so would like to take any >existing Roland sample libraries with them when they jump ship. > >It would have been great to be able to convert Akai into Roland to save >using the S760 Convert Load function - slooow - and wouldn't the ability to >translate .wav to Roland S7xx been great? > Tell me about it. I have three or four CDs full of high quality wav. file samples, all 16-bit, many stereo, looped multi-samples of all kinds of synths, world and ethnic music stuff as well as the popular drums and drum machines samples. It would be nice to convert all this stuff, especially the synths. In the meantime, though, I've managed to build a decent library for the S-760 so I can't complain too much. 'Still haven't been able to find a stock analog buzzy horn like patch that sounds exactly like my favorite patch from my old Jupiter-6, though. I have it sampled for the S-550 but I've never been able to loop it. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 13:09:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:09:51 -0500 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.160.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:09:38 -0500 Received: from ABIT2K (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 81E2416000465 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:09:34 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: FW: sgroup chicken sys Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:09:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Glyn [mailto:glyn@who.net] Sent: 19 January 2003 17:22 To: Jesse Segovia Subject: RE: sgroup chicken sys > >> chicken sys translator will FINALLY properly support s7x in the new > >> version > >> due feb 14th. > > > Full wav file to S7X format conversion, for example? Is there anything > about this on their website? > > And I guess they always did Akai S1000 to S7X, right? Errrr....no. To the best of my knowledge you could not convert _ANY_ format to Roland S7xx - not even other Roland formats! It is a one way conversion - you can convert Roland into other formats but not the other way round. For further info see; http://www.chickensys.com/translator/translatorwinavailable.html This list was last updated August 27 2002 according to the bottom of the web page. Just below where it also says "Transitions are added daily"! I guess they figured that as the Roland was old & unsupported most owners would be looking to upgrade to another format so would like to take any existing Roland sample libraries with them when they jump ship. It would have been great to be able to convert Akai into Roland to save using the S760 Convert Load function - slooow - and wouldn't the ability to translate .wav to Roland S7xx been great? I bought Translator over a year ago and it has to be the most unused piece of software I have on my PC. Despite being promised a year ago that they would include the ability to catalogue Roland sample CD-ROMS I got tired of waiting - I bought Translator on the back of the review in SOS where they stated it would catalogue your entire library. They just forgot to say you couldn't do it with Roland. I had loads of issues on my list to ChickenSys that gave me problems but it was like pissing in the wind...:-( Was I just born lucky? :-) Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 14:00:28 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:00:19 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f49.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.49]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:00:09 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:00:00 -0800 Received: from 217.215.29.35 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:00:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.215.29.35] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: FW: sgroup chicken sys Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:00:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 19:00:00.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[F75E1380:01C2BFEC] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have mailed them at least three times during the last year (since i bought a copy of Translator just to be able to convert my Akai CDs into Roland format) and they have responded each time that the Akai->Roland conversion is "in beta test right now, should be released at yada, yada, yada". I guess i'm screwed. I ended up changing sampler, but would still get a Roland if they ever will get the XXX->Roland stuff in place. Regards Daniel >I bought Translator over a year ago and it has to be the most unused >piece >of software I have on my PC. >Despite being promised a year ago that they would include the ability >to >catalogue Roland sample CD-ROMS I got tired of waiting - I bought > >Translator on the back of the review in SOS where they stated it would > >catalogue your entire library. >They just forgot to say you couldn't do it with Roland. >I had loads of issues on my list to ChickenSys that gave me problems but it >was like pissing in the wind...:-( > >Was I just born lucky? :-) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 14:43:10 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193726-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:43:01 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193724-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:42:51 -0500 Received: from [80.46.166.161] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18aLR9-000KCz-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:48:55 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup Video connector Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:43:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I got an email from somebody querying the video connector on the OP-760 board. It's true that I completely forgot about that one when making the monitor page, concentrating instead on the RGB out and S-Video out, and so I replied to him saying that these were the only two connectors. My mistake. I don't have an RCA cable nor a TV with RCA video in. Can someone confirm you can use the RCA output, do you get colour? Cheers, Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 14:52:04 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193727-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:51:54 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193726-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:51:51 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.163.48.200]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030119195330.QPYK3410.mail@[208.163.48.200]>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:53:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:51:37 -0500 To: "Francois Rossi" , "Sgroup" From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Video connector Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > > >I don't have an RCA cable nor a TV with RCA video in. Can someone confirm >you can use the RCA output, do you get colour? > >Cheers, > >Francois > yes and yes.. only thing is image is not as sharp as either RGB or s-video but it works. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 18:14:15 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:14:08 -0500 Received: from fedex.is.co.za ([196.4.160.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:14:04 -0500 Received: from [196.26.218.22] (c6-rba-22.dial-up.net [196.26.218.22]) by fedex.is.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9F5B7E54 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 01:13:46 +0200 (SAST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@pop.icon.co.za Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:13:37 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup chicken sys Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >i was at namm.. > >chicken sys translator will FINALLY properly support s7x in the new version >due feb 14th. CDXtract has done S7xx conversions since mid-2002 It does it very well too - NICE program. Regards - Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 18:27:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:27:50 -0500 Received: from mx1.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.114]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:27:35 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:27:31 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:27:30 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: sgroup Video connector Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764CC442@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Video connector Thread-Index: AcK/8wlQAuXdqDIORGuM2OYVjyWjXwAHjO39 From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Francois Rossi" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 23:27:31.0204 (UTC) FILETIME=[5671D440:01C2C012] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk IA0KDQoJPkkgZG9uJ3QgaGF2ZSBhbiBSQ0EgY2FibGUgbm9yIGEgVFYgd2l0aCBSQ0EgdmlkZW8g aW4uIENhbiBzb21lb25lDQpjb25maXJtDQoJPnlvdSBjYW4gdXNlIHRoZSBSQ0Egb3V0cHV0LCBk byB5b3UgZ2V0IGNvbG91cj8NCgkNCg0KCVlvdSBjYW4gdXNlIHRoZSBSQ0Egb3V0cHV0IGJ1dCBp dCBpcyBtb25vY2hyb21lIC0gSSBkbyBub3Qga25vdyBpZiBpdCBpcw0KaW4gY29sb3Igb24gdGhl IFMtNzYwLiBUaGUgbWFudWFsIGRvZXMgbm90IHRlbGwgeW91IGlmIGl0cyBjb2xvci4NCg0KCVRo ZSBTLTMzMCBhbmQgUy01NTAgb3V0cHV0cyBhcmUgbW9ub2Nocm9tZSAoSSBoYWQgYSBsb29rIGF0 IHRoZSBtYW51YWwNCmFuZCBzZXJ2aWNlIG1hbnVhbC4uLikuIEkgdXNlIHRoZXNlIG91dHB1dHMg d2l0aCBhIHNpbXBsZSBQaGlsaXBzIE04MCBtb25vY2hyb21lDQptb25pdG9yLg0KDQoJQ2lhbw0K DQoJUGV0ZXINCg0KCWh0dHA6Ly91bGxyaWNoLmF0LnR0DQoNCg== - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 19:24:45 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:24:35 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl ([194.151.104.156]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:24:31 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.157.69]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 01:26:42 +0100 Message-ID: <010c01c2c01b$f1625ac0$459d4bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: "sgroup" References: <3E2AEA1F.5010405@mindspring.com> Subject: wav-to-Roland / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:12:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, > - and wouldn't the ability to > >translate .wav to Roland S7xx been great? I don't have an S-7X0 myself, so please ignore all this if I'm saying incorrect things - but as long as it's about converting wavs-only to these samplers, isn't it a piece of cake by using the S/PDIF I/O ?! (provided your PC has a digital output). Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: Re: sgroup chicken sys > Glyn wrote > > >I guess they figured that as the Roland was old & unsupported most owners > >would be looking to upgrade to another format so would like to take any > >existing Roland sample libraries with them when they jump ship. > > > >It would have been great to be able to convert Akai into Roland to save > >using the S760 Convert Load function - slooow - and wouldn't the ability to > >translate .wav to Roland S7xx been great? > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 19:24:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:24:47 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl ([194.151.104.156]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:24:41 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.157.69]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 01:26:40 +0100 Message-ID: <010a01c2c01b$f03d62c0$459d4bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: "Francois Rossi" , "Sgroup" , "Richard Sven Patterson" References: Subject: 'hands' was: Re: sgroup More updates to the S-760 website Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:00:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > > rsp > proud owner of two, that you couldn't get from my cold dead hands :-) Hey, we know that one ! :-) Saw the movie with the 'original' quote yesterday, impressive. Eh, and sad. And more. Bye, Peter - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 19:24:57 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:24:46 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl ([194.151.104.156]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:24:34 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.157.69]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 01:26:41 +0100 Message-ID: <010b01c2c01b$f0cb4ae0$459d4bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: Subject: ExtrSmplConv / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:09:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk FWIW, anybody tested the Extreme Sample Converter-program yet ? Not sure it does Roland (I thought not) but maybe you have other gear that can use it. Just had a quick look, looks like some CDxtract-lite. http://www.extranslator.com Bye, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Shapiro To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: Re: sgroup chicken sys > >i was at namm.. > > > >chicken sys translator will FINALLY properly support s7x in the new version > >due feb 14th. > > CDXtract has done S7xx conversions since mid-2002 > It does it very well too - NICE program. > > Regards - Colin > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 19 21:51:13 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:51:05 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm00803785ed49.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.192.1.184]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4589>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:51:02 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0K2otK06584 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 21:50:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au ([203.25.148.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4588>; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:27:01 -0500 Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id h0K1QpKR002641 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:26:51 +1100 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.254] (ppp105.adsl89.pacific.net.au [202.7.89.105]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id MAA17462 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:26:50 +1100 (EST) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:26:50 -0500 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup Subject: Re: wav-to-Roland / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys Message-ID: <610247860.1043065610@[192.168.0.11]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "P. Vermeeren" wrote: > I don't have an S-7X0 myself, so please ignore all this if I'm > saying incorrect things > - but as long as it's about converting wavs-only to these samplers, isn't > it a piece of cake by using the S/PDIF I/O ?! (provided your PC has a > digital output). But that can be quite time consuming as it has to be done in real time, and you have to set up loop points, create the partials and patches etc. manually. Ideally the translation software will do all this, and write it to disk images or even your raw SCSI devices directly - all much more quickly than manual sampling. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 04:43:32 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 04:43:24 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 04:43:19 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:36:02 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C7C@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: 'Jesse Segovia' Cc: "SGROUP (E-mail)" Subject: RE: sgroup Atari and MIDI Sequencers Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 04:36:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Jesse, There's no need to but any new PC software to do what you want. You should be able to use the Atari version of Dr. Ts KCS on your laptop (in theory). You'll need an Atari ST emulator such as 'STEem Engine' which is downloadable from: http://tamw.atari-users.net/timidi.htm You should be then able to run your laptop as you would an Atari. I've never actually tried doing this as I don't own a PC, however, all of the internet sites that I've looked at say it's possible including Tim's above. Have a look and see what you think. Regards Steven > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Segovia [SMTP:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > Sent: 17 January 2003 18:48 > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: sgroup Atari and MIDI Sequencers > > I also have and still use an Atari computer, a 1040ST ('don't think it's > an 'E'). It's a wonderful computer and I'm very glad I chose to start > with it instead of a Mac (PC MIDI stufff was virtually non-existent in the > late-mid 80s). I bought a cheap Windows MIDI sequencer for my PC laptop > intending to convert all my sequence files over to the new sequencer, > worried that one of these days my Atari is going to conk out and all my > MIDI stuff will be gone (plus I can't MIDI sync the Atari and my DAW), but > the sequencer I bought was a complete waste, even at ~$20. > > With Dr. Ts KCS (Keyboard Controlled Sequencer), I go to a track play > screen with tape recorder-like controls and start recording X bars worth > of tracks. When I'm done, I save it as a sequence file, like a verse or a > chorus. When I have enough sequences for the entire song, I link them > together as a song file and I'm done. > > My understanding is this is not the way modern Windows sequencer software > works. Isn't there anything for the PC that will let me work like this? > I don't want any audio editing capabilities, and I don't want to pay $400 > for a sequencer. Ideas? > > Jesse > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither Brother International Europe Ltd nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). If you believe you have received this communication in error, please return it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then delete the email and destroy any copies of it. We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 09:49:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:49:23 -0500 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:49:17 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust61.tnt2.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.26.61]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id PAA13908 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:49:10 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3E2C0004.60200@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:56:20 -0500 From: Ingo Debus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; de-DE; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Buzzy horn patch, was chicken sys References: <3E2AEA1F.5010405@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse Segovia schrieb: > 'Still haven't been able to find a stock analog buzzy horn like patch > that sounds exactly like my favorite patch from my old Jupiter-6, > though. I have it sampled for the S-550 but I've never been able to > loop it. Do you like to share that sample? I could try and loop it. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 09:49:32 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:49:23 -0500 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:49:17 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust61.tnt2.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.26.61]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id PAA13845 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:49:05 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3E2BFF3C.7000109@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:53:00 -0500 From: Ingo Debus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; de-DE; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: wav-to-Roland / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys References: <610247860.1043065610@[192.168.0.11]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Bernie Maier schrieb: > "P. Vermeeren" wrote: > >> I don't have an S-7X0 myself, so please ignore all this if I'm >> saying incorrect things >> - but as long as it's about converting wavs-only to these samplers, isn't >> it a piece of cake by using the S/PDIF I/O ?! (provided your PC has a >> digital output). > > > But that can be quite time consuming as it has to be done in real time, Hehe, compared to MIDI sample transfer real-time is pretty fast ;-) When I want to play WAVes with my S-760 I usually transfer them via MIDI. I use my old Atari program for this. It has a batch mode, so it can transfer several samples without need of user interaction. I can leave it alone for a few hours until the S-760's memory is full. But it still took me several days to "translate" a complete WAV CD-ROM to Roland format this way. Not sure if I want to do this again. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 09:59:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:59:12 -0500 Received: from hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:59:01 -0500 Received: from [192.168.200.143] (helo=wamui07.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18adO2-0003rN-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:58:54 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.58] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Mon Jan 20 09:58:54 EST 2003 Message-ID: <770138.1043074734153.JavaMail.nobody@wamui07.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:59:57 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Buzzy horn patch, was chicken sys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ingo Debus wrote: >> 'Still haven't been able to find a stock analog buzzy horn like >> patch that sounds exactly like my favorite patch from my old >> Jupiter-6, though. I have it sampled for the S-550 but I've never >> been able to loop it. > Do you like to share that sample? I could try and loop it. Sure. I have it in sdisk format. I actually have it right here on my laptop - I could attach it to an email and send it to you. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 10:08:28 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:08:19 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:08:13 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:07:37 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C157C@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup RCA Video connector Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:07:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Francois wrote: >I don't have an RCA cable nor a TV with RCA video in. Can >someone confirm >you can use the RCA output, do you get colour? Indeed, in glorius blue, red, white and black and yellow and green too. The quality of the 760 display seen on a regular TV monitor seems to vary, so get a good one. Otherwise the image may be a little fuzzy and hard on the eyes. Also, the brightness of the display output from the 760 is very high, so you may wish to adjust the picture for your eyes/lighting conditions. Eye fatigue can happen very quickly during those intense sampling sessions... Second-hand shops are a good source for monitors, which have no "convertor" built-in but sometimes have better picture. Shop around. I paid around $30 for an excellent Toshiba from 1985. Before that I had a Hitachi monitor (similar price) with a very fuzzy picture which my eyes found intolerable. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 10:12:47 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:12:43 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:12:27 -0500 Received: from [80.46.151.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18adZb-0002AW-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:10:51 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup RCA Video connector Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:13:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C157C@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> I don't have an RCA cable nor a TV with RCA video in. > Indeed, in glorius blue, red, white and black and yellow > and green too. Thanks. I was able to try after all when I realised that my VCR had a yellow RCA video in. The monitor page has been modified. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 11:41:12 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:41:04 -0500 Received: from mail.mclink.it (net128-007.mclink.it [195.110.128.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:40:53 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.110] (net141-036.mclink.it [195.110.141.36]) by mail.mclink.it (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id h0KGejx15304; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:40:45 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:40:14 -0500 Subject: sgroup Re: wav-to-Roland From: Stefano Daino To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3E2BFF3C.7000109@cityweb.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi everybody, if you have a Mac and a S760 or DJ70 MkII, D-SoundPRO is able to read WAVE files and to do fast SCSI sample dumps. Other samplers are supported only by MIDI. But it does not support batch transfers, this is a good point for the future. The new version of D-SoundPRO is ready, I'll release it on next hours. Stefano Daino sdaino@d-soundpro.com > Da: Ingo Debus > Data: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:53:00 -0500 > A: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Oggetto: Re: wav-to-Roland / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys > > > Bernie Maier schrieb: >> "P. Vermeeren" wrote: >> >>> I don't have an S-7X0 myself, so please ignore all this if I'm >>> saying incorrect things >>> - but as long as it's about converting wavs-only to these samplers, isn't >>> it a piece of cake by using the S/PDIF I/O ?! (provided your PC has a >>> digital output). >> >> >> But that can be quite time consuming as it has to be done in real time, > > Hehe, compared to MIDI sample transfer real-time is pretty fast ;-) > > When I want to play WAVes with my S-760 I usually transfer them via > MIDI. I use my old Atari program for this. It has a batch mode, so it > can transfer several samples without need of user interaction. I can > leave it alone for a few hours until the S-760's memory is full. > > But it still took me several days to "translate" a complete WAV CD-ROM > to Roland format this way. Not sure if I want to do this again. > > Ingo > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 12:12:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:12:23 -0500 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.42]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:12:16 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.b4.174bc644 (1320) for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:11:34 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:11:34 -0500 Subject: sgroup s760 sampling time To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk does anyone know: if at boot up the s760 indicates 204 second mono sampling time, how much RAM does this mean is in the sampler? how much stereo time is this (half of 204 = 102 s??) thanks, jeff - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 12:29:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:29:42 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:29:36 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:28:43 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1581@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup s760 sampling time Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:28:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk with 32 Meg I think it's around 325 secs. Yes, I think stereo cuts it in half. >-----Original Message----- >From: Myrios@aol.com [mailto:Myrios@aol.com] >Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:12 PM >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: sgroup s760 sampling time > > >does anyone know: if at boot up the s760 indicates 204 second >mono sampling >time, how much RAM does this mean is in the sampler? how much >stereo time is >this (half of 204 = 102 s??) > >thanks, >jeff > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 12:36:12 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:36:04 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([66.203.197.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:35:54 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0KHZfh57402 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:35:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from quay.tripfinder.com.au (www.tripfinder.com.au [61.8.3.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193725-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:32:46 -0500 Received: from parrot.cairead.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quay.tripfinder.com.au (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h0KHWZK08058 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 04:32:36 +1100 (EST) Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA00211 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:32:34 GMT Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id RAA25515 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:32:33 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:32:33 -0500 From: Nic Grant To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s760 sampling time Message-ID: <20030120173233.A25461@uv.cairead.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from Myrios@aol.com on Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 12:11:34PM -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk to quote Myrios@aol.com: => does anyone know: if at boot up the s760 indicates 204 second mono sampling => time, how much RAM does this mean is in the sampler? how much stereo time is => this (half of 204 = 102 s??) Assuming, the S760 is reporting based on a bit depth of 16 and a 44.1Khz sample rate (mono as you say) 44100 16 bit samples/sec = 88100 bytes per sec generated multiply by 204 seconds = 17972400 So, about 18Mb memory if the above assumptions (and calculations) are correct! Yes, stereo time would be 2 channels instead of one, so 102 secs. Regards, Nic. -- Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, voice/fax: +1 650 618 1713 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 16:46:36 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:46:30 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:46:20 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:46:13 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:46:13 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: sgroup RCA Video connector Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:46:13 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764CC449@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup RCA Video connector Thread-Index: AcLAleR05uTyWH4LTLCAX3HXBqRzvgANykgl From: "Ullrich Peter" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2003 21:46:13.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A4A1B70:01C2C0CD] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk CUhpIQ0KDQoJPkkgZG9uJ3QgaGF2ZSBhbiBSQ0EgY2FibGUgbm9yIGEgVFYgd2l0aCBSQ0Egdmlk ZW8gaW4uIENhbg0KCT5zb21lb25lIGNvbmZpcm0NCgk+eW91IGNhbiB1c2UgdGhlIFJDQSBvdXRw dXQsIGRvIHlvdSBnZXQgY29sb3VyPw0KCQ0KDQoJVG9kYXkgSSBjaGVja2VkIG15IFMtNzYwIFJD QSB2aWRlbyBvdXRwdXQuIEkgcGx1Z2dlZCBpdCBpbnRvIHRoZSB2aWRlbw0KaW5wdXQgb2YgbXkg dmlkZW8gcmVjb3JkZXIuDQoNCglZZXMsIGl0IGlzIGluIGNvbG9yISBTbyB0aGVyZSBpcyBhIGRp ZmZlcmVuY2UgdG8gdGhlIFMtMzMwIGFuZCBTLTU1MA0Kc2FtcGxlcnMgYXMgdGhlc3Mgc2FtcGxl cnMgb25seSBoYXZlIGEgbW9ub2Nocm9tZSBSQ0EgdmlkZW8gc2lnbmFsLg0KDQoJVGhlIHF1YWxp dHkgaXMgbm90IGFzIG5pY2UgYXMgd2l0aCBteSBSR0IgbW9uaXRvciAtIHRoZSBwaWN0dXJlIGlz IG5vdA0Kc28gc2hhcnAuIEl0IGxvb2tzIGEgbGl0dGxlIGJpdCBibHVycmVkLi4uDQoNCglDaWFv DQoNCglQZXRlcg0KDQoJaHR0cDovL3VsbHJpY2guYXQudHQgDQoJDQoNCg== - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 16:50:09 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:50:06 -0500 Received: from mx1.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.114]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:49:50 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:49:48 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:49:48 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: sgroup s760 sampling time / CORRECTION! Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:49:47 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764CC44A@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup s760 sampling time Thread-Index: AcLAqZRTCdY7BsVWSvC6xwHBhH74KgAJBp2a From: "Ullrich Peter" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2003 21:49:48.0229 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA409750:01C2C0CD] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk CT53aXRoIDMyIE1lZyBJIHRoaW5rIGl0J3MgYXJvdW5kIDMyNSBzZWNzLg0KCQ0KDQoJU29ycnks IG5vdCBjb3JyZWN0OiB3aXRoIDMyTUIgeW91IGdldCAzNjMuOCBzZWNvbmRzICEhIQ0KDQoJPlll cywgSSB0aGluayBzdGVyZW8gY3V0cyBpdCBpbiBoYWxmLg0KDQoJQ29ycmVjdC4NCgkNCglDaWFv DQoNCglQZXRlcg0KDQoJaHR0cDovL3VsbHJpY2guYXQudHQNCg0K - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 16:53:48 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:53:40 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl ([194.151.104.156]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:53:25 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.240.232]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:07:51 +0100 Message-ID: <008401c2c0c9$569bb640$e8f04bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: "sgroup" References: <610247860.1043065610@[192.168.0.11]> Subject: Re: wav-to-Roland / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:17:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, Sure, having to use the S/PDIF I/O for one sample at a time is beyond inconvenient. I have no idea about how many samples we're talking here, and elegant it isn't, but I guess if you start now, you'll be ready before Translator can do it ! :-) (sorry) Bye, Peter (who is also disappointed since no sample conversion programs seem to exist for the Peavey DPM-SP sampler either ... or please tell !) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernie Maier To: sgroup Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:26 AM Subject: Re: wav-to-Roland / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys > "P. Vermeeren" wrote: > > > I don't have an S-7X0 myself, so please ignore all this if I'm > > saying incorrect things > > - but as long as it's about converting wavs-only to these samplers, isn't > > it a piece of cake by using the S/PDIF I/O ?! (provided your PC has a > > digital output). > > But that can be quite time consuming as it has to be done in real time, > and you have to set up loop points, create the partials and patches > etc. manually. Ideally the translation software will do all this, and > write it to disk images or even your raw SCSI devices directly - all > much more quickly than manual sampling. > > Cheers, > > Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 17:24:47 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:24:41 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f57.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:24:31 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:24:21 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.234 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:24:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.234] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Revisiting: Zip drive hookup Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:24:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2003 22:24:21.0512 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE067880:01C2C0D2] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk My apologies for not searching the message archives, but Peter Ullrich and others, I have my Zip drive hooked up to my Apple SCSI drive (which stores my samples). The Zip drive is the last item in the chain, configured with SCSI ID=5 and termination switch to ON. The problem: when I boot up the S-550, the configuration says "HD: Parking", then when I go to load samples, the sampler sees neither drive. Do I need to make the SCSI drive last in the chain and terminate it? If not, what am I misunderstanding here? Thanks in advance.... Doug _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 18:17:29 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:17:23 -0500 Received: from mx1.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.114]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16882>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:17:12 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:17:04 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:17:04 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: sgroup Revisiting: Zip drive hookup Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:17:03 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764CC44D@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Revisiting: Zip drive hookup Thread-Index: AcLA0sX88m2XyCRgTUq4hRUAqpqA7AABwvE9 From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "gtrplaya !" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2003 23:17:04.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B1ABB60:01C2C0DA] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk CT5NeSBhcG9sb2dpZXMgZm9yIG5vdCBzZWFyY2hpbmcgdGhlIG1lc3NhZ2UgYXJjaGl2ZXMsIGJ1 dCBQZXRlciBVbGxyaWNoDQphbmQNCgk+b3RoZXJzLCBJIGhhdmUgbXkgWmlwIGRyaXZlIGhvb2tl ZCB1cCB0byBteSBBcHBsZSBTQ1NJIGRyaXZlICh3aGljaA0Kc3RvcmVzDQoJPm15IHNhbXBsZXMp LiBUaGUgWmlwIGRyaXZlIGlzIHRoZSBsYXN0IGl0ZW0gaW4gdGhlIGNoYWluLCBjb25maWd1cmVk DQp3aXRoDQoJPlNDU0kgSUQ9NSBhbmQgdGVybWluYXRpb24gc3dpdGNoIHRvIE9OLiBUaGUgcHJv YmxlbTogd2hlbiBJIGJvb3QgdXAgdGhlDQoJPlMtNTUwLCB0aGUgY29uZmlndXJhdGlvbiBzYXlz ICJIRDogUGFya2luZyIsIHRoZW4gd2hlbiBJIGdvIHRvIGxvYWQNCj5zYW1wbGVzLCB0aGUgc2Ft cGxlciBzZWVzIG5laXRoZXIgZHJpdmUuDQoJDQoNCglPbiB0aGUgUy01NTAgdGhlIFpJUCBkcml2 ZSBzb21ldGltZXMgbmVlZHMgdG8gYmUgUkVTVEFSVEVELiBUaGUgUkVTVEFSVA0KY29tbWFuZCBp cyBpbiB0aGUgY29tbWFuZCBtZW51IHdoZW4gSSByZW1lbWJlciBjb3JyZWN0bHkhDQoNCgkNCgk+ RG8gSSBuZWVkIHRvIG1ha2UgdGhlIFNDU0kgZHJpdmUgbGFzdCBpbiB0aGUgY2hhaW4gYW5kIHRl cm1pbmF0ZSBpdD8gSWYNCj5ub3QsIHdoYXQgYW0gSSBtaXN1bmRlcnN0YW5kaW5nIGhlcmU/DQoJ DQoNCglUaGUgbGFzdCBkcml2ZSAoWklQIG9yIGhhcmRkaXNrIGRvZXMgbm90IG1hdHRlcikgaGFz IHRvIGJlIHRlcm1pbmF0ZWQsDQp5ZXMuDQoNCglDaWFvDQoNCglQZXRlcg0KDQoJaHR0cDovL3Vs bHJpY2guYXQudHQNCg0K - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 20 20:32:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:32:00 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.65.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-16881>; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:31:54 -0500 Received: (qmail 7493 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jan 2003 01:31:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO projectmarketeer) (213.194.1.1) by mail.gmx.net (mp011-rz3) with SMTP; 21 Jan 2003 01:31:48 -0000 Message-ID: <007801c2c0ed$8818bd20$0101c2d5@projectmarketeer> From: "Sjaak de Vos" To: , "Ullrich Peter" Subject: sgroup square Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:36:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The last messages I 've received from Ullrich Peter do not contain any letters or numbers from the alfabet. Only squares , see below. What's going on ???? Or am I getting Dyslectic ????? Sjaak -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Ullrich Peter Aan: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca ; sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Datum: maandag 20 januari 2003 22:50 Onderwerp: AW: sgroup s760 sampling time / CORRECTION! 㸉楷桴㌠′æ•â§â‰æ¡´æ¹©â«ç‘©çŒ§æ„ æ½²æ¹µâ¤ãˆ³â€µæ•³ç£à´®à¤Šà¨à¨åŒ‰ç‰¯ç¥²â€¬æ½®â´æ½£ç‰²æ¥ã©´çœ ç‘©â¨ãˆ³ä‰ç¤ ç•¯æœ ç‘¥ãŒ ãŒ¶ã ®çŒ æ¥æ¹¯ç¤â„ â„¡à¨à¨ã¸‰æ•™â±³ä¤ ç æ¥¨æ­®çŒ æ•´æ•²â¯ç•£ç´æ¤ â´æ¹©æ  æ±¡â¹¦à¨à¨ 䌉牯敲瑣മऊà¨äŒ‰æ…©àµ¯à´Šà¤Šæ•æ•´àµ²à´Šà¤Šç‘¨ç´â¼ºç”¯æ±¬æ¥²æ¡£æ„®â¹´ç‘´à¨à¨î¥‰æ¿­æ„«ì¡ºêˆ«æ›ªâ¥ªé¹¢æˆ‰íª²é˜§â´«î®²çª§á«—訖맬᲻⪮詭ïªé¤«æŠ«ç®¢é´žé«™å®Šé¥¨î¢¨íª­êˆ¦ê±˜ì®¶é¶®å³«ê¥©ë‡ê‡§íª¶ï½¿ã€Œî¦ê·žå²©çž¢ê˜ž ᳛澢苬⺺껨⭪⥺ꋟ骹⪶ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 00:37:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:37:17 -0500 Received: from siaab1aa.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:37:06 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaab1aa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id AAA03776 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:36:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:36:48 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup chicken sys To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301210036_MC3-1-25A9-D712@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >CDXtract has done S7xx conversions since mid-2002 It does it very well too - >NICE program. Doesn't do AKAI or WAV to s760. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 01:14:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:14:40 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:14:30 -0500 Received: from user-2initc3.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.117.131] helo=randyhoffix) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18arfx-0002yx-00; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:14:22 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c2c113$5d151f80$837579a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "gtrplaya !" , References: Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:06:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk For S550, that is 80MB for hard drive space. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: gtrplaya ! To: Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:37 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I > Well, Harold, since I still use (and love) my dinosaur S-550, I have an old > Apple SCSI drive hooked up, but as we all know, the S-550 can't see any more > than 40MB of storage at one time. > > My only other alternative right now is my Zip 100, which I know can replace > the HD. I often load samples not on the HD via my PowerMac, using Alchemy > 3.0....still slow. > > Doug > > >From: "Harold Everton, Jr." > >To: > >Subject: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:27:59 -0500 > > > >Hey Everyone, > > > >A long time ago when the Roland S760 debuted, 2MB was a considerably large > >amount of memory for PCs and 40MB was the standard size of all hard drives > >(more or less). We live in radically different times now. Our hard drive > >limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs usually exceed or max out at > >600MB+. > > > >My question is, what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive > >space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I have a Zip100MB which > >seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but gets used up quickly! > >I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six months ago, but even if we got > >those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB anyway. > > > >In these days of 3.1 Ghz PCs and 160GB hard drives, do you all use your > >Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and then load them in via SCSI. There > >always has to be a headache. For me, it's loading in a CD everytime I need > >to use it. I'd love to just have everything on one hard drive, cataloged > >with a librarian program so if say a client comes to the studio, I could > >call up all of my drum kits, all of my guitars, etc, and then just load > >them in. This is similar to how David Newman files his stuff as indicated > >in the famous December 2000 issue of Keyboard Magazine (remember his 26 > >stacked S760 samplers?). > > > >For those who are upgrading to XV5080s, this is no issue as it can > >communicate directly with the PC via SCSI, and, I think it can use drives > >up to 256GB. > > > >Later, > >Harold Everton, Jr. > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 02:01:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:01:44 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:01:32 -0500 Received: from user-2init8r.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.117.27] helo=randyhoffix) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18asPN-0007aV-00; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:01:18 -0500 Message-ID: <005701c2c119$eb35a5e0$837579a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Francois Rossi" , "Sgroup" References: Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:25:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I still would stay with older 50pin because you still can have compatiblity problems with drives. The 68pin could be SCSI 2 or 3. And on my S750, I have had drives not work. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois Rossi To: Sgroup Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:57 AM Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I > > >...make sure it is 50 pin... > > In terms of 540Mb or 1Gb drives, it's very likely they'll be 50-pin. In any > case, there are cheap converters that enable you to use a 68-pin drive with > a 50-pin ribbon cable. My E-Mu drive is a 18Gb 68-pin connected to the > 50-pin cable by that mean. > > Are we having a email flood today or what! > > Francois > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 02:01:57 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:01:47 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:01:32 -0500 Received: from user-2init8r.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.117.27] helo=randyhoffix) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18asPQ-0007aV-00; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:01:21 -0500 Message-ID: <005801c2c119$ed0276a0$837579a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: , "Roland S760 List" References: Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:51:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C2C0D6.7EE275A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C2C0D6.7EE275A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable During the days as an engineer for Instrumentation products, we stayed = away from PC based instruments. Mostly because of the use of (cheap) = switching power supplies that were noisy, ground loop problems (there is = no seperate earth,power, analog ground systems), and interferences such = as the video cards. (Even Roland has problems of interference with it's = video and sound. And add to the fact that a friend of mine is studying the effects of the = windows operating systems, at Boeing, on it's use for a real-time = operating system. They are discovering that it has serious problems = with critical timings. I prefer dedicated musical systems. I also prefer the analog sound = output from my D550 to that of my Soundblaster, Pinnacle, or Dman card. Randy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Glyn=20 To: Roland S760 List=20 Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:12 AM Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I I have none of these limitations with my current sampler as it reads = Akai S1000-3000 discs natively with no conversion and can load the = AKAI.s/AIF.aif/WAV.wav/SOUNDFONT.sf files directly in addition to its = own format by simply dragging/dropping with the MS Intellimouse Explorer = navigating a modern interface on my 21" Eizo that doesn't look like it = came from a Sinclair Spectrum...:-) It can use all 2GB of my PC RAM and nearly half-a-terabyte of HDD = storage space, 3 x CD-ROM, 1 x DVD , 1 x ZIP250 drives and anything else = I care to plug into my system. Sounds great, has wonderful routing possibilities that simply require = a point & click to route from destination->source, digital SP/DIF I/O, = analogue I/O (on real 1/4" Jacks), MIDI & further expansion = possibilities etc. etc. Takes up no rack space (nor does it require a mains lead) and = hopefully when I get round to using Translator properly I will be able = to translate all my Roland Library to Akai.s format. Its better than having a 'real' sampler inside your PC as you are able = to do real-time effects, use it as a mixer, synthesizer, vocoder and so = much more. When I hit the limit of the onboard 3 SHARC DSP chips I can add = another card and chain them internally using its own bus - various = options include 4/6/15 DSP cards. It can be seamlessly integrated into any sequencer using ASIO and = gives full access to its own DSP effects, mixers, synths, samplers etc. = etc. It also comes with MME/WAV/GSIF drivers. I am still learning about the capabilities of the card but thus far = you may have noticed that I am impressed! What is it? It's the Creamware PowerSampler PCI card I bought for =A3150 - used = but boxed and in excellent condition with all the bits. Having said that I do miss the 1U S760 in my rack - and my interest = has just been rekindled by Francois Rossi's excellent website. Don't think that will stop me selling my last S760 though :-( Regards, -=3DGlyn=3D- -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca = [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: 16 January 2003 15:28 To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Hey Everyone, A long time ago when the Roland S760 debuted, 2MB was a considerably = large amount of memory for PCs and 40MB was the standard size of all = hard drives (more or less). We live in radically different times now. = Our hard drive limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs usually exceed = or max out at 600MB+. My question is, what are you people doing when it comes to hard = drive space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I have a Zip100MB = which seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but gets used up = quickly! I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six months ago, but even = if we got those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB anyway.=20 In these days of 3.1 Ghz PCs and 160GB hard drives, do you all use = your Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and then load them in via = SCSI. There always has to be a headache. For me, it's loading in a CD = everytime I need to use it. I'd love to just have everything on one hard = drive, cataloged with a librarian program so if say a client comes to = the studio, I could call up all of my drum kits, all of my guitars, etc, = and then just load them in. This is similar to how David Newman files = his stuff as indicated in the famous December 2000 issue of Keyboard = Magazine (remember his 26 stacked S760 samplers?). For those who are upgrading to XV5080s, this is no issue as it can = communicate directly with the PC via SCSI, and, I think it can use = drives up to 256GB. Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C2C0D6.7EE275A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
During the days as an engineer for Instrumentation = products,=20 we stayed away from PC based instruments.  Mostly because of the = use of=20 (cheap) switching power supplies that were noisy, ground loop problems = (there is=20 no seperate earth,power, analog ground systems), and interferences such = as the=20 video cards.  (Even Roland has problems of interference with it's = video and=20 sound.
 
And add to the fact that a friend of mine is = studying the=20 effects of the windows operating systems, at Boeing, on it's use for a = real-time=20 operating system.  They are discovering that it has serious = problems with=20 critical timings.
 
I prefer dedicated musical systems.  I also = prefer the=20 analog sound output from my D550 to that of my Soundblaster, Pinnacle, = or=20 Dman card.
 
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Glyn
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 = 6:12=20 AM
Subject: RE: sgroup Drive Space = Saga Part=20 I

I=20 have none of these limitations with my current sampler as it reads = Akai=20 S1000-3000 discs natively with no conversion and can load the=20 AKAI.s/AIF.aif/WAV.wav/SOUNDFONT.sf  files directly in addition = to its=20 own format by simply dragging/dropping with the MS Intellimouse=20 Explorer navigating a modern interface on my 21" Eizo that = doesn't look=20 like it came from a Sinclair Spectrum...:-)
 
It=20 can use all 2GB of my PC RAM and nearly half-a-terabyte of HDD = storage=20 space, 3 x CD-ROM, 1 x DVD , 1 x ZIP250 drives and anything else = I care=20 to plug into my system.
 
Sounds great, has wonderful routing possibilities that simply = require a=20 point & click to route from destination->source, digital = SP/DIF=20 I/O, analogue I/O (on real 1/4" Jacks), MIDI & = further expansion=20 possibilities etc. etc.
 
Takes up no rack space (nor does it require a mains lead) and = hopefully=20 when I get round to using Translator properly I will be able to = translate all=20 my Roland Library to Akai.s format.
 
Its=20 better than having a 'real' sampler inside your PC as you are able to = do=20 real-time effects, use it as a mixer, synthesizer, vocoder and so much = more.
 
When=20 I hit the limit of the onboard 3 SHARC DSP chips I can add = another card=20 and chain them internally using its own bus - various options include = 4/6/15=20 DSP cards.
 
It=20 can be seamlessly integrated into any sequencer using ASIO and = gives full=20 access to its own DSP effects, mixers, synths, samplers etc.=20 etc.
 
It=20 also comes with MME/WAV/GSIF drivers.
 
I am=20 still learning about the capabilities of the card but thus far you may = have=20 noticed that I am impressed!
 
What=20 is it?
 
It's=20 the Creamware=20 PowerSampler PCI card I bought for =A3150 - used but boxed and in = excellent=20 condition with all the bits.
 
Having said that I do miss the 1U S760 in my rack - and my = interest has=20 just been rekindled by Francois Rossi's excellent = website.
 
Don't think that will stop me selling my last S760 though=20 :-(
 
Regards,
-=3DGlyn=3D-
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca = [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf=20 Of Harold Everton, Jr.
Sent: 16 January 2003=20 15:28
To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca
Subject: sgroup = Drive=20 Space Saga Part I

Hey Everyone,
 
A long time ago when the Roland = S760 debuted,=20 2MB was a considerably large amount of memory for PCs and 40MB was = the=20 standard size of all hard drives (more or less). We live in = radically=20 different times now. Our hard drive limit is 600MB, even though our = Sample=20 CDs usually exceed or max out at 600MB+.
 
My question is, what are you people = doing when=20 it comes to hard drive space. How are you all cataloging your = samples? I=20 have a Zip100MB which seems like lot when compared to internal = memory,=20 but gets used up quickly! I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six = months=20 ago, but even if we got those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB = anyway.=20
 
In these days of  3.1 Ghz PCs = and 160GB=20 hard drives, do you all use your Macs and PCs to catalog your = samples and=20 then load them in via SCSI. There always has to be a headache. For = me, it's=20 loading in a CD everytime I need to use it. I'd love to just have = everything=20 on one hard drive, cataloged with a librarian program so if say a = client=20 comes to the studio, I could call up all of my drum kits, all of my = guitars,=20 etc, and then just load them in. This is similar to how David Newman = files=20 his stuff as indicated in the famous December 2000 issue of Keyboard = Magazine (remember his 26 stacked S760 samplers?).
 
For those who are upgrading to = XV5080s, this is=20 no issue as it can communicate directly with the PC via SCSI, and, I = think=20 it can use drives up to 256GB.
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C2C0D6.7EE275A0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 02:09:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:09:22 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:09:11 -0500 Received: from user-2initud.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.119.205] helo=randyhoffix) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18asWt-0002J2-00; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:09:04 -0500 Message-ID: <006d01c2c11b$011f4720$837579a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , References: <003801c2be38$2db0c240$9150580c@epu1> Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:01:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01C2C0D7.E15F0E40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C2C0D7.E15F0E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What you would do is put the DOS driver in the config.sys file just like = the old days. I did this for troublesome CDroms. But you can't do = this after Win 98 since there is no dos to force the driver into the = system. Randy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Everton, Jr.=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:53 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I QUOTE: ---------------------------- I think the issue was with the SCSI drivers on the PC scanning the = SCSI bus and the S760 not reporting its info back like other SCSI devices. AFAIK this issue may not affect the Mac which is why you should be = able to transfer data to/from the S760 over SCSI on this platform. I recall seeing somewhere that someone 'allegedly' tried using DOS = SCSI drivers and had some success on the PC... =20 Regards, -=3DGlyn=3D- ---------------------------------- Glyn, Please explain this one. Where did you get the info on someone using a = DOS driver? Can this driver be placed in a windows folder and then be = used as a regular driver? Then what? Perhaps this won't do much as there = aren't any programs that support the S760 anyway? Or perhaps, this is = where regular sample editors come in. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C2C0D7.E15F0E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What you would do is put the DOS driver in the = config.sys file=20 just like the old days.  I did this for troublesome CDroms.  = But=20 you  can't do this after Win 98 since there is no dos to force the = driver=20 into the system.
 
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Harold Everton, = Jr.
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 = 6:53=20 AM
Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space = Saga Part=20 I

QUOTE:
----------------------------
I = think the issue was=20 with the SCSI drivers on the PC scanning the SCSI bus
and the S760 = not=20 reporting its info back like other SCSI devices.

 AFAIK = this issue=20 may not affect the Mac which is why you should be able = to
 transfer=20 data to/from the S760 over SCSI on this platform.

 I = recall seeing=20 somewhere that someone 'allegedly' tried using DOS = SCSI
 drivers and=20 had some success on the=20 = PC...
 
Regards,
 -=3DGlyn=3D-
-------------= ---------------------
 
Glyn,
 
Please explain this one. Where did = you get the=20 info on someone using a DOS driver? Can this driver be placed in a = windows=20 folder and then be used as a regular driver? Then what? Perhaps this = won't do=20 much as there aren't any programs that support the S760 anyway? Or = perhaps,=20 this is where regular sample editors come in.
 

 
------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C2C0D7.E15F0E40-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 02:42:14 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:42:07 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f225.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.225]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:42:01 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:41:59 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.232 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:41:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.232] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 02:41:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 07:41:59.0887 (UTC) FILETIME=[94C555F0:01C2C120] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yes, I stand corrected...I was thinking for the 40MB Apple SCSI drive that is connected >From: "Randy Hoffman" >To: "gtrplaya !" , >Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:06:52 -0800 > >For S550, that is 80MB for hard drive space. > >Randy > >----- Original Message ----- >From: gtrplaya ! >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:37 AM >Subject: Re: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I > > > > Well, Harold, since I still use (and love) my dinosaur S-550, I have an >old > > Apple SCSI drive hooked up, but as we all know, the S-550 can't see any >more > > than 40MB of storage at one time. > > > > My only other alternative right now is my Zip 100, which I know can >replace > > the HD. I often load samples not on the HD via my PowerMac, using >Alchemy > > 3.0....still slow. > > > > Doug > > > > >From: "Harold Everton, Jr." > > >To: > > >Subject: sgroup Drive Space Saga Part I > > >Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:27:59 -0500 > > > > > >Hey Everyone, > > > > > >A long time ago when the Roland S760 debuted, 2MB was a considerably >large > > >amount of memory for PCs and 40MB was the standard size of all hard >drives > > >(more or less). We live in radically different times now. Our hard >drive > > >limit is 600MB, even though our Sample CDs usually exceed or max out at > > >600MB+. > > > > > >My question is, what are you people doing when it comes to hard drive > > >space. How are you all cataloging your samples? I have a Zip100MB which > > >seems like lot when compared to internal memory, but gets used up >quickly! > > >I saw the new Zip750s hit the market six months ago, but even if we got > > >those, they'd still be formatted to 600MB anyway. > > > > > >In these days of 3.1 Ghz PCs and 160GB hard drives, do you all use >your > > >Macs and PCs to catalog your samples and then load them in via SCSI. >There > > >always has to be a headache. For me, it's loading in a CD everytime I >need > > >to use it. I'd love to just have everything on one hard drive, >cataloged > > >with a librarian program so if say a client comes to the studio, I >could > > >call up all of my drum kits, all of my guitars, etc, and then just load > > >them in. This is similar to how David Newman files his stuff as >indicated > > >in the famous December 2000 issue of Keyboard Magazine (remember his 26 > > >stacked S760 samplers?). > > > > > >For those who are upgrading to XV5080s, this is no issue as it can > > >communicate directly with the PC via SCSI, and, I think it can use >drives > > >up to 256GB. > > > > > >Later, > > >Harold Everton, Jr. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 03:24:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:23:59 -0500 Received: from mx1.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.114]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:23:53 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:23:48 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:23:48 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: sgroup AW: square Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:23:48 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0C7F@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: square Thread-Index: AcLA7N6iC6hUcEGSQlqWUV2N8ZV/9QAObZGg From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Sjaak de Vos" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 08:23:48.0796 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C3277C0:01C2C126] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! >The last messages I 've received from Ullrich Peter do not contain any >letters or numbers from the alfabet. > >Only squares , see below. > >What's going on ???? >Or am I getting Dyslectic ????? >Sjaak Sorry, that must come from the very very buggy Microsoft webmail = interface I have to use when I want to mail via my companies account... So here is the essential information again: >with 32 Meg I think it's around 325 secs. =09 Sorry, not correct: with 32MB you get 363.8 seconds !!! >Yes, I think stereo cuts it in half. Correct. Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 03:28:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:28:15 -0500 Received: from mx1.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.114]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:28:12 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:28:04 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:28:04 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup Revisiting: Zip drive hookup Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 03:28:04 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0C80@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Revisiting: Zip drive hookup Thread-Index: AcLA0sX88m2XyCRgTUq4hRUAqpqA7AABwvE9ABNZGwA= From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "gtrplaya !" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 08:28:04.0405 (UTC) FILETIME=[048D4E50:01C2C127] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Again the microsoft webmail interface made troubles... >My apologies for not searching the message archives, but Peter Ullrich >and others, I have my Zip drive hooked up to my Apple SCSI drive (which >stores my samples). The Zip drive is the last item in the chain, = configured >with SCSI ID=3D5 and termination switch to ON. The problem: when I boot = up the >S-550, the configuration says "HD: Parking", then when I go to load >samples, the sampler sees neither drive. =09 On the S-550 the ZIP drive sometimes needs to be RESTARTED. The RESTART command is in the command menu when I remember correctly! =09 >Do I need to make the SCSI drive last in the chain and terminate it? If >not, what am I misunderstanding here? =09 The last drive (ZIP or harddisk does not matter) has to be terminated, = yes. Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 09:17:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:17:41 -0500 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:17:31 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.1bd.1c086dfb (16781) for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:17:19 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <1bd.1c086dfb.2b5eb06e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:17:18 -0500 Subject: sgroup s760 library options / opinions To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk i'm about to get my first s760, but i'm still weighing the advantages of different components offered buy different sellers. (one has a bunch of zips with mostly drum/bass, etc. but no cd drive, another has cd drive with Roland Orchestral/Rhythm and the Drumscapes cd...(is that any good?) here are a few things that will help me make decisions: - is there much opportunity for buying or swapping zip disks with samples anywhere online? - is there a good resource online for older or used cd's in s760 format? i presume cd's in Akai s1000 format will load samples, but not volume/performance/partial/patch levels? - the 'new' offerings on websites like soundsonline offer things like "rhythm section" and "orchestral".... do these newer samples sound vastly different or better than the Roland libraries? these are kind of vague questions... but thanks for any advice. - jeff - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 10:40:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:40:42 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:40:32 -0500 Received: from [80.46.151.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18b0VC-000KCx-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:39:50 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup s760 library options / opinions Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:41:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1bd.1c086dfb.2b5eb06e@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >i'm about to get my first s760... Ah, you've seen the light then ;-) > one has a bunch of zips with mostly drum/bass, > etc. but no cd drive, another has cd drive with Roland > Orchestral/Rhythm and the Drumscapes cd... Take the CD and Roland sample discs one. More value than zip disks with unknown samples. > is there much opportunity for buying or swapping > zip disks with samples anywhere online? No. You can find free samples online but they'll be WAV or AIFF files that you'll have to send to the Roland to then create partials. A lot of work involved. To my knowledge, the only free Roland stuff online is the S-7 floppy library available via the Sgroup archive. > is there a good resource online for older or used cd's > in s760 format? Buy online yes; SoundsOnline, Best Service, Time & Space, to name but a few. And eBay. >... do these newer samples sound vastly different > or better than the Roland libraries? Some do, some don't. Drumscapes is excellent. Generally, anything by Ilio, East West and Spectrasonics for Roland is good, Best Service is pot luck and so is Time + Space / Zero G. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 11:55:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:55:00 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:54:54 -0500 Received: from [80.46.151.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18b1fB-000DYR-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 16:54:13 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup S-760 LCD display Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:56:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk New entry in the website: --------------- The unit fitted inside the S-760 is an Optrex unit, passive graphic, model DMF-50374 NYU-LY with EL backlight, Roland part number 00123945. The LCD unit is 160x64, also known as size 2.5", a size that is not very common (in this range, 128*64 is common). Each display has a 6-digit code telling when and where it was manufactured. Digits 1 and 2 are the year, 3 is the month (1 to 9, X, Y, Z), 4 is the week (1 to 5), 5 is the factory code (letter) and 6 is the factory number (numeral). The bad news is this model is no longer manufactured nor available as it was custom-made for Roland. The good news is there is a possible replacement from the same manufacturer. The model you need is DMF-51026 NYU-LY. Note that the replacement will be the backlight only. You'll have to reuse the mechanical parts of the sampler display. The replacement unit costs $33.79 + relevant tax and shipping (Jan. 03). To know where to buy it, go to the Optrex American website here (www.optrex.com), and click on 'products/graphic LCD' from the menu bar. Once you've find the entry for model DMF-51026, click on 'Stock'. This will show who has got a supply of that particular model. As I write, the only company listed world-wide that can supply one piece is Apollo Display Technologies LLC., whose website you can find here (www.apollodisplays.com). I had a word with both UK and French distributors, and they need a minimum order of 100 units to sell you this particular model since it is not common. So end-users worlwide unite, and ring the American retailer. I am still looking into the possibility of getting a display from another manufacturer that would work when replacing the backlight unit. --------------- I'm waiting for some answers as to where you can send the Roland to have the backlight replaced. Francois Rossi http://s760.us.tt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 12:10:19 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:10:12 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:10:02 -0500 Received: from [80.46.151.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18b1tm-000Hzs-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:09:18 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup Translator and the S-7xx Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:11:08 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I just got an email from Chickensys saying that conversion TO the S-7xx will be present in the new version released on Feb. 14. To my question what format (S1000 > S-7xx, EOS > S-7xx) the reply I got was 'all'! So let's see if they deliver. But if they do, then Translator becomes the 'de facto' must have utility for the S-7xx samplers. Francois http://s760.us.tt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 12:59:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:58:59 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:58:49 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.83.43]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030121175843.KMUH12483.mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:58:43 +0000 Message-ID: <001701c2c176$32993bc0$2b53580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Translator and the S-7xx Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:54:50 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2C14C.4902F100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2C14C.4902F100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey SGroup, This is extremely great news. This should mean that S7xx users now have = the opportunity to purchase any sample CD, in almost any format, and = should be able to use it with the S7xx via translator. this of course, = provided that the sample converted would be less than 32MB!! Take Care, Harold Everton, Jr. From: Francois Rossi To: Sgroup Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: sgroup Translator and the S-7xx > I just got an email from Chickensys saying that conversion TO the = S-7xx will > be present in the new version released on Feb. 14. To my question what > format (S1000 > S-7xx, EOS > S-7xx) the reply I got was 'all'! >=20 > So let's see if they deliver. But if they do, then Translator becomes = the > 'de facto' must have utility for the S-7xx samplers. >=20 >=20 > Francois > http://s760.us.tt >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2C14C.4902F100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey SGroup,
 
This is extremely great news. This = should mean that=20 S7xx users now have the opportunity to purchase any sample CD, in almost = any=20 format, and should be able to use it with the S7xx via translator. this = of=20 course, provided that the sample converted would be less than=20 32MB!!
 
Take Care,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2C14C.4902F100-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:07:54 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:07:49 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f143.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.143]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:07:39 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:07:32 -0800 Received: from 128.183.85.78 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:07:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.183.85.78] From: "gtrplaya !" To: francois@chezrossi.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 LCD display Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:07:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 18:07:32.0542 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7F9FDE0:01C2C177] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Francois, Have you checked backlights.co.uk? They stock replacements for the S-750...might it be the same as the S-760 backlight? Doug >From: "Francois Rossi" >To: "Sgroup" >Subject: sgroup S-760 LCD display >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 11:56:03 -0500 > > >New entry in the website: > >--------------- >The unit fitted inside the S-760 is an Optrex unit, passive graphic, model >DMF-50374 NYU-LY with EL backlight, Roland part number 00123945. The LCD >unit is 160x64, also known as size 2.5", a size that is not very common (in >this range, 128*64 is common). > >Each display has a 6-digit code telling when and where it was manufactured. >Digits 1 and 2 are the year, 3 is the month (1 to 9, X, Y, Z), 4 is the >week >(1 to 5), 5 is the factory code (letter) and 6 is the factory number >(numeral). > >The bad news is this model is no longer manufactured nor available as it >was >custom-made for Roland. The good news is there is a possible replacement >from the same manufacturer. The model you need is DMF-51026 NYU-LY. Note >that the replacement will be the backlight only. You'll have to reuse the >mechanical parts of the sampler display. > >The replacement unit costs $33.79 + relevant tax and shipping (Jan. 03). To >know where to buy it, go to the Optrex American website here >(www.optrex.com), and click on 'products/graphic LCD' from the menu bar. >Once you've find the entry for model DMF-51026, click on 'Stock'. This will >show who has got a supply of that particular model. As I write, the only >company listed world-wide that can supply one piece is Apollo Display >Technologies LLC., whose website you can find here >(www.apollodisplays.com). > >I had a word with both UK and French distributors, and they need a minimum >order of 100 units to sell you this particular model since it is not >common. >So end-users worlwide unite, and ring the American retailer. > >I am still looking into the possibility of getting a display from another >manufacturer that would work when replacing the backlight unit. >--------------- > >I'm waiting for some answers as to where you can send the Roland to have >the >backlight replaced. > >Francois Rossi >http://s760.us.tt > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.co _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:16:29 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:16:25 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:16:10 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:15:11 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C159F@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Translator and the S-7xx Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:15:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Sounds great. I'm not familiar with these products. Any info on the minimum system requirements? (is there a link with more info?) thanks ---original massage----- This is extremely great news. This should mean that S7xx users now have the opportunity to purchase any sample CD, in almost any format, and should be able to use it with the S7xx via translator. this of course, provided that the sample converted would be less than 32MB!! Take Care, Harold Everton, Jr. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:20:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:20:00 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:19:45 -0500 Received: from [80.46.151.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18b2yK-000PXZ-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:18:04 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 LCD display Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:20:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Have you checked backlights.co.uk? They stock replacements for the >S-750...might it be the same as the S-760 backlight? Yes, they're mentioned on the website as specialised in backlight replacement for music instruments. The website is currently down so I couldn't get any info. The email I sent them is still unanswered. I wanted to know whether they'd already done the S-760 and if they were using an optrex unit or a model from another manufacturer. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:22:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:21:59 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15135>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:21:44 -0500 Received: from [80.46.151.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18b30H-0000BP-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:20:05 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup OT: query on R8 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:22:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Sorry for the off topic subject. I contacted various drums egroup / mailing list first but got no reply. Can someone who has the R8/R8M service manual contact me directly please. I have a question on part replacement. Cheers, Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:25:03 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:24:56 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl (net013s.hetnet.nl [194.151.104.153]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15134>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:24:50 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.240.63]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:26:59 +0100 Message-ID: <004a01c2c17a$a1a04000$3ff04bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C159F@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> Subject: Re: sgroup Translator and the S-7xx Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:26:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk www.chickensys.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:15 PM Subject: RE: sgroup Translator and the S-7xx > Sounds great. I'm not familiar with these products. > Any info on the minimum system requirements? > (is there a link with more info?) > > thanks > > ---original massage----- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:36:32 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-5273>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:36:28 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5273>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:36:12 -0500 Received: from [80.46.151.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18b3EI-0004iD-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:34:34 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Translator and the S-7xx Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:37:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C159F@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Sounds great. I'm not familiar with these products. >Any info on the minimum system requirements? >(is there a link with more info?) 1) www.cdxtract.com 2) www.chickensys.com Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:44:08 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-5276>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:44:04 -0500 Received: from mta3.wss.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.85.34]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5276>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:43:49 -0500 Received: from sjspc (66.224.34.21) by mta3.wss.scd.yahoo.com (6.5.032.1) id 3E2C54600006EA00; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:43:34 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'Francois Rossi'" , "'Sgroup'" Subject: RE: sgroup s760 library options / opinions Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:43:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c2c17c$f042a480$4601a8c0@sjspc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Buy online yes; SoundsOnline, Best Service, Time & Space, to > name but a few. > And eBay. > You should also be aware that most Sample CD's cannot be legally bought/sold as used. On Ebay you can sometimes find some NEW sample CD's...and if you want to be completely legit, you need to make sure you are buying only new sample CD's. Most sample CD's fall under a type of license that the original buyer is the only one having the license to redistribute musical material that is produced using the sample CD.. In short, if you buy a used sample CD, you are not buying a legit copy..you will be using essentially the equivilent of an illegal copy. So beware of buying used Sample CD's. The good news is that if you hang on on this maillist, you will find out about all kinds of specials and deals on new sample Cd's as people find out about them. Many of the Roland discs have been gotten for under $50 each.. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:45:00 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-5276>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:44:52 -0500 Received: from mta3.wss.scd.yahoo.com ([66.218.85.34]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5273>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:44:43 -0500 Received: from sjspc (66.224.34.21) by mta3.wss.scd.yahoo.com (6.5.032.1) id 3E2C54600006EBDF; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:44:40 -0800 Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'P. Vermeeren'" , Subject: RE: ExtrSmplConv / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:44:10 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c2c17d$171637c0$4601a8c0@sjspc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <010b01c2c01b$f0cb4ae0$459d4bd5@ptr> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hmm, new kid on the block. Extreme-ly slow web site though... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca] On Behalf Of P. Vermeeren > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:09 PM > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: ExtrSmplConv / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys > > > FWIW, anybody tested the Extreme Sample Converter-program yet > ? Not sure it > does Roland (I thought not) but maybe you have other gear > that can use it. > Just had a quick look, looks like some CDxtract-lite. > http://www.extranslator.com Bye, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Colin Shapiro To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:13 AM Subject: Re: sgroup chicken sys > >i was at namm.. > > > >chicken sys translator will FINALLY properly support s7x in the new version > >due feb 14th. > > CDXtract has done S7xx conversions since mid-2002 > It does it very well too - NICE program. > > Regards - Colin > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:45:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-5273>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:45:41 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-5276>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:45:15 -0500 Received: from [80.46.151.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18b3N3-0007fU-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:43:37 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup Roland SyQuest sample archive on eBay Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:46:27 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk So come on, spill the beans, who from the Sgroup got the various Roland sample archive cartridges on eBay? Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 13:59:34 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-5276>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:59:25 -0500 Received: from siaag2ae.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.135]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5276>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:59:18 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2ae.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id NAA18788 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:59:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:58:48 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Translator and the S-7xx To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301211358_MC3-1-25CE-CEF@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I just got an email from Chickensys saying that conversion TO the S-7xx= will >be present in the new version released on Feb. 14. To my question what >format (S1000 > S-7xx, EOS > S-7xx) the reply I got was 'all'! At NAMM they showed a 40x40 matrix idea where everything is convertable t= o everything. Fingers crossed. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 15:37:30 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-5273>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:37:24 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5273>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:37:17 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.f.7e23e0c (30950) for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:36:48 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 15:36:48 -0500 Subject: sgroup keyboards of the 60's and 70's vol. 1 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk any opinions on this set of samples? is volume 1 more organs and vol. 2 more like prophet, oberheim and stuff? thnx, jeff - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 21 19:59:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-5273>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:59:29 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl (net013s.hetnet.nl [194.151.104.153]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5273>; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:59:26 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.225.35]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 22 Jan 2003 02:01:40 +0100 Message-ID: <009801c2c1b1$c206e880$23e14bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: <000b01c2c17d$171637c0$4601a8c0@sjspc> Subject: Re: ExtrSmplConv / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:13:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Hmm, new kid on the block. Extreme-ly slow web site though... > Yes, same here. FWIW, saw this site being mentioned in SOS's PCNotes: Extreme Sample Translator is a new browser, player, editor and manager written by Polish developer Wlodzimierz Grabowski for converting samples between various different formats, including AIFF and WAV, Giga, Soundfont, Akai S1000/3000 and Solton SND. Visually similar to CDxtract, it provides a variety of panes to display the various layers of each format's hierarchy, and claims to include ADSR, filter, and LFO parameters for more accurate conversion, along with the ability to read and write disk images. The 1.06MB demo will run for 14 days, but registration is only $15. www.extranslator.com http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/feb03/articles/pcnotes0203.asp Bye, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Schow To: 'P. Vermeeren' ; Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:44 PM Subject: RE: ExtrSmplConv / was: Re: sgroup chicken sys > Hmm, new kid on the block. Extreme-ly slow web site though... > > > > http://www.extranslator.com > > Bye, > > Peter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colin Shapiro > To: > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 12:13 AM > Subject: Re: sgroup chicken sys > > > > >i was at namm.. > > > > > >chicken sys translator will FINALLY properly support s7x in the new > version > > >due feb 14th. > > > > CDXtract has done S7xx conversions since mid-2002 > > It does it very well too - NICE program. > > > > Regards - Colin > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 22 00:26:38 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15149>; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:26:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f182.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.182]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15149>; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:26:17 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:26:09 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.232 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:26:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.232] From: "gtrplaya !" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Zip drive....again (last time I hope) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 00:26:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2003 05:26:09.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[C50311B0:01C2C1D6] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ok, sorry if I seem anal about this, but I have the Zip 100 finally hooked up in the scsi chain correctly (I believe). Booted the S-550 fine, it sees the Apple SCSI drive fine (can load samples from it, etc)...but how do I know if the sampler sees the zip drive? Right now, I haven't a clue! Thanks for reading... Doug _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 22 05:10:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15149>; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:10:41 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15149>; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:10:30 -0500 Received: from [80.46.151.138] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18bHpK-0000FE-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:09:46 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup EXtreme sampler and the S-7xx Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 05:11:36 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I got an email from Wlodzimierz Grabowsk, the author behind Extreme sample converter, and he said that he will work on software sampler conversion before tackling hardware samplers. And when he does, it'll be the Yamaha PSR-9000 first, the Ensoniq format second, and then maybe the S-760 or the Yamaha A3000. So I wouldn't hold my breath for conversions into S-7xx via Extreme sample converter :-( Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 22 16:02:02 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15150>; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:01:56 -0500 Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.164]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15150>; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:01:49 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.1ac.f5ef390 (30950) for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:01:43 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <1ac.f5ef390.2b6060b7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:01:43 -0500 Subject: sgroup reasonable prices on sample cd's To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk can anyone suggest a place to find reasonably priced sample cd's for the s760? all i've been able to find so far is stuff for $150 - $250, and a few items on eBay that don't appeal to me. i'm interested in synth, rhythm, orchestral and anything phatt... thanks, jeff - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 22 19:08:13 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15149>; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:08:07 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15149>; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:08:01 -0500 Received: from [80.46.167.230] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18bV0d-000HFl-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:14:19 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup eBay 770 + sample cds Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:09:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk For Sgroup US members: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2502357840&category=128 8. It may be interesting for the sample cds alone. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 23 10:26:13 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19775>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:26:05 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.102]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19775>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:26:01 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.117.1e0f500c (3842) for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:25:42 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <117.1e0f500c.2b616376@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:25:42 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup eBay 770 + sample cds To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk will those cd's work with the s760?? i lost on the bidding on the s760 with monitor, drives and a decent library. now i'm back to other options, neither of which have a cd drive. i've seen the list of usable cd drives/compatibility, but only can find slightly different model numbers... do you think most 12x drives will work? jt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 23 10:34:45 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19775>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:34:37 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19775>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:34:27 -0500 Received: from [80.46.145.223] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18bjT9-000871-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:40:43 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup eBay 770 + sample cds Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:35:36 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <117.1e0f500c.2b616376@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > do you think most 12x drives will work? My Plextor 12x4x32 works and so does my 40x reader. Plextor make very good cd-rom and cdrw units. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 23 10:41:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19776>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:41:39 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19776>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:41:29 -0500 Received: from [80.46.145.223] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18bjZz-0009CX-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 15:47:48 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup More info on sample cds Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:42:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Since sample CDs are amongst the topics most discussed here, I thought I'd spend a bit more time on the 'Sounds' page of my website. So I beefed up the info contained on CDs released in Roland format. I added 'genre', 'price', 'code' and 'year' so that you have an idea as to what sort of samples are on the discs (easy enough to figure out anyway), original price when released so you can compare with current offers, publisher's reference and year of release (you know older cds are likely to have smaller banks). As usual, feel free to add info or correct mistakes if you can. Last, I went to www.amguk.co.uk to check their Roland sample discs. The entire collection (4 discs) is now for sale at UK60 (US95) each instead of the UK149 it was. The discs Dave Ruffy, Neil Conti, Loop Soup, etc. got excellent reviews from various mags. You can read them online under each cd description. Francois s760.us.tt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 23 10:47:04 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-19775>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:46:55 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-19775>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:46:49 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:46:40 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 23 Jan 2003 16:46:40 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: sgroup Sample CD Review Site Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:46:39 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0CDB@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup More info on sample cds Thread-Index: AcLC9f0ZvpQZkNVRR5ev/sZSQG2WYAAAMelg From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Sgroup" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 15:46:40.0142 (UTC) FILETIME=[9EC79AE0:01C2C2F6] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! I found a nice site that has reviews of some sample CDs. I found it while searching for information of my Korg Universe 1&2 and Elektravox Sample CDROMs in AKAI Format.=20 I haven't checked if also Roland Sample CDROMs are there... Here is the link: http://www.sounduser.com/ Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). 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If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 23 23:00:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19776>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:59:54 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19776>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:59:43 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.102.2489ab29 (16781) for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:59:35 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <102.2489ab29.2b621426@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:59:34 -0500 Subject: sgroup Various questions: new s760 owner!! To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I finally got my s760 today, and my Sony color television plugged-in to the composite video connection actually looks incredibly sharp! Questions: 1- it seems that when I first boot up the s760, my mouse does not function properly. The cursor kind of responds to mouse movement, but then the cursor jumps back to the upper left corner when I the mouse stops. When I reboot it works fine. Anyone ever experience this? 2- I dont' know if I'm using the latest System, or if I even need to: the disk says 2.0, s760-7 3- Now I need a CD drive. I'm looking on eBay and found this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2303262688&category=33871 Is there a standard cable that goes from 50-pin (like this drive's) to the DB25 (scsi 1)? Thanks, jt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 23 23:05:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19776>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:05:39 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19776>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:05:33 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.224] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18bv5v-000K9q-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 04:05:31 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup S-760 website additions Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:06:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I've worked some more on the sounds section. Almost all 143 entries are now complete, year, price, code. What the list doesn't give you is a review, but at least, it should help a bit, newbies in particular. I also added a trivia section on the intro page. As I've not been a Roland user for long, the trivia list is a bit thin on the ground. So I'm calling on members who've been here a while to try and remember facts / stories worth including. Cheers, Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 23 23:22:45 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-19775>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:22:40 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19775>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:22:25 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.224] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18bvMD-000Mpf-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 04:22:21 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Various questions: new s760 owner!! Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:23:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <102.2489ab29.2b621426@aol.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Can't say anything on 1, it doesn't happen with my system. But if you don't have the latest OS... >2- I dont' know if I'm using the latest System, or if I even need to: the >disk says 2.0, s760-7 You do need the latest version of the OS as it corrected a few bugs on the scsi front, and with Zip100 in particular. Just get OS 2.24 from the website or the Sgroup archive. Then check if problem 1 persists. > 3- Now I need a CD drive. I'm looking on eBay... > Is there a standard cable that goes from 50-pin (like this drive's) to the > DB25 (scsi 1)? $12 for a 12x scsi, get it now before they're gone. 12x doesn't look much for modern standards but your Roland will not work any faster with a later drive because it is a scsi-1 machine. Also, scsi 12 speed is real 12 speed. Fast enough for sample loading. Heck, some of us probably still use 1x or 2x drives with their S-550. The cable is a standard scsi cable, 50-pin centronic to 25-pin. Again, lots on eBay but you can find them new as well. Any 50 to 25 will do so long as you get the proper male to male sort. On another front, I was asked several times if I'll put the S-700 floppy library on the website. The answer is no. They're already available via the Sgroup archive, and I'd rather users with a slow connection send John the $10 requested to get a copy of the archive. What I may well do though is to put a few floppies of my own, that is, when I have the time to do some sampling instead of website creation! Francois s760.us.tt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 00:41:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:41:15 -0500 Received: from siaag2aa.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.131]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:41:09 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2aa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id AAA24013 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:41:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:39:40 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup roland archive on CD To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301240040_MC3-1-266E-80AD@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I am interested in this.. John, still available? Which volumes are incluuded? Better for me on a ZIP, but I can convert.. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 07:43:52 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:43:44 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:43:37 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:36:09 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C97@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" Subject: sgroup What style? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:36:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi everybody, I'm curious... what style(s) of music is everyone out there currently using their Roland samplers and other hardware for?. Steven IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither Brother International Europe Ltd nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). If you believe you have received this communication in error, please return it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then delete the email and destroy any copies of it. We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 08:46:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:46:00 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f147.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.147]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:45:49 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:45:48 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.105 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:45:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.105] From: "Six Stringa" To: Steven.Downhill@brother.co.uk Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup What style? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:45:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 13:45:48.0606 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6F0C5E0:01C2C3AE] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Me? R&B, acid jazz, what is called neo-soul, house music, add some funk, judiciously, and there you have it. Doug >From: Steven Downhill >To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" >Subject: sgroup What style? >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:36:00 -0500 > >Hi everybody, > >I'm curious... what style(s) of music is everyone out there currently using >their Roland samplers and other hardware for?. > >Steven > > >IMPORTANT NOTICE >The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use >of >the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please >note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or >the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > >Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither >Brother International Europe Ltd >nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your >responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). > >If you believe you have received this communication in error, please return >it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then delete the email >and destroy any copies of it. >We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to >ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk > >Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 10:12:23 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:12:15 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:12:09 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:11:04 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C15B1@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Various questions: new s760 owner!! Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:11:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Francois spake: >The cable is a standard scsi cable, 50-pin centronic to >25-pin. Again, lots >on eBay but you can find them new as well. Any 50 to 25 will >do so long as >you get the proper male to male sort. Had a lot of trouble finding such a cable, but there is a 50-to-25 pin SCSI adapter that can be ordered for under $20. I ordered mine through a MacIntosh dealer. They had a few catalogues but only one manufacturer carried it. Don't recall the name but there's only one (available to Canada at least). Ralph - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 10:20:08 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:20:01 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:19:58 -0500 Received: from [80.46.162.224] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18c5cY-000BRX-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:19:54 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Various questions: new s760 owner!! Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:21:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C15B1@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >The cable is a standard scsi cable >Had a lot of trouble finding such a cable I've just done a search on eBay US and there are 904 entries for 'scsi cable' right now. I'm sure there's a 25 to 50 in there. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 11:05:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:05:28 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:05:25 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:02:52 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C15B7@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: francois@chezrossi.net, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Various questions: new s760 owner!! Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:02:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At one time last year there were at least four MU-1 mouses on eBay all the time Maybe it's because I live in Canada...but now I can't find even one for my 330 (anyone have any clues?) >-----Original Message----- >From: Francois Rossi [mailto:francois@chezrossi.net] >Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 10:21 AM >To: Sgroup >Subject: RE: sgroup Various questions: new s760 owner!! > > >> >The cable is a standard scsi cable > >>Had a lot of trouble finding such a cable > >I've just done a search on eBay US and there are 904 entries for 'scsi >cable' right now. I'm sure there's a 25 to 50 in there. > >Francois > > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 11:54:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:53:53 -0500 Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.101]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:53:42 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.1dc.b7b086 (4238) for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:53:32 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <1dc.b7b086.2b62c98b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:53:31 -0500 Subject: sgroup s760 advanced manual To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk the Advanced Operation manual I got with my new s760 is not comlete... I only have through Chapter 3, page: 70 (up to Disk Mode). Are there any Advanced Operation manuals out there??? thanks - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 12:19:26 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:19:18 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm00803785ed49.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.192.1.184]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:19:15 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0OHJC299843 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:19:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au ([203.25.148.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19775>; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:10:20 -0500 Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id h0O4ACKR023403 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:10:12 +1100 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.254] (ppp105.adsl89.pacific.net.au [202.7.89.105]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id PAA18537 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:10:11 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:10:10 -0500 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Various questions: new s760 owner!! Message-ID: <965670310.1043421010@[192.168.0.11]> In-Reply-To: <102.2489ab29.2b621426@aol.com> References: <102.2489ab29.2b621426@aol.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Myrios@aol.com wrote: > I finally got my s760 today, and my Sony color television plugged-in to > the composite video connection actually looks incredibly sharp! > > Questions: > 1- it seems that when I first boot up the s760, my mouse does not > function properly. The cursor kind of responds to mouse movement, but > then the cursor jumps back to the upper left corner when I the mouse > stops. When I reboot it works fine. Anyone ever experience this? No. I've never experienced this, and I don't recall any mention of it on this list. > 2- I dont' know if I'm using the latest System, or if I even need to: the > disk says 2.0, s760-7 2.24 is the latest/last S-760 OS. You can find it by following the links at the bottom of this email. > 3- Now I need a CD drive. I'm looking on eBay and found this one: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2303262688&category=33 > 871 Is there a standard cable that goes from 50-pin (like this drive's) > to the DB25 (scsi 1)? Yes. Even though SCSI is not so commonplace nowadays, I'd still expect your average electronics/computer store to have a selection of cables like this. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 12:28:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:28:23 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm00803785ed49.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.192.1.184]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:28:20 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0OHSBD00757; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:28:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:28:11 -0500 Message-Id: <200301241728.h0OHSBD00757@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, skylab2000@compuserve.com Subject: Re: sgroup roland archive on CD Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:39:40 -0500 | From: dennis barton | | I am interested in this.. John, still available? Which volumes are | incluuded? | | Better for me on a ZIP, but I can convert.. The CD that I put together is a copy of what's on the sgroup archive website i.e. everything under http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/ in a standard PC-ish CD-ROM format. It's not a Roland format sample disk - I have no idea how to make one of those. You can then take all the sample files on the CD and use sdisk (or similar) to write a floppy, or perhaps a conversion or sample dump program. And yup, it's still available - see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/cdrom.html for the details. Cheers! John jsellens@generalconcepts.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 14:59:25 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:59:20 -0500 Received: from siaag1ac.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:59:10 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id OAA25216 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:59:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:58:40 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup What style? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301241459_MC3-1-2674-EA6D@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >I'm curious... what style(s) of music is everyone out there currently using >their Roland samplers and other hardware for?. Hard house. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 15:09:03 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:08:54 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f245.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.245]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:08:51 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:08:45 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.105 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:08:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.105] From: "Six Stringa" To: Steven.Downhill@brother.co.uk, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:08:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 20:08:45.0680 (UTC) FILETIME=[66580700:01C2C3E4] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Steven's question got me thinking...there may be some type of this buried in the many messages threads over the years, but is any one interest in a users matrix that holds this sort of info? Data such as: - Name or username - Type of sampler(s)used - Style of music - Geographical location - Website, if any - Software designed, if any - email address etc...? May prove useful. >From: Steven Downhill >To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" >Subject: sgroup What style? >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:36:00 -0500 > >Hi everybody, > >I'm curious... what style(s) of music is everyone out there currently using >their Roland samplers and other hardware for?. > >Steven _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 15:34:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:34:42 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:34:32 -0500 Received: from [80.46.164.126] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18cAWx-000DJv-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:34:28 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:35:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Steven's question got me thinking...there may be some type of this buried in >the many messages threads over the years, but is any one interest in a users >matrix that holds this sort of info? Data such as: >May prove useful. Yes, to the spiders collecting email address to send you junk mail! It would work only if there was a system whereby you click on something to send an email to someone without having access to the email itself until you get a reply from the person you wanted to contact. SoundOnSound readers ads work like this to protect email harvest by spammers. Saying that, I'm sure my email address has been collected already by spammers trawling mailing lists. Anyway, here goes: Location: UK Roland samplers: S-330 x 2, S-760 x 2, DA-400 x 1, RC-100 x 1 Music style: all Website: s760.us.tt Email address: the one I'm using now Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 16:22:47 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:22:40 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f185.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.185]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:22:33 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:22:26 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:22:26 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "Six Stringa" To: francois@chezrossi.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:22:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 21:22:26.0461 (UTC) FILETIME=[B155ACD0:01C2C3EE] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I appreciate and agree with your concern to prevent the webbots from abusing our email addresses. I didn't consider that when speaking of that part of the database, but was thinking along the lines of providing easy contact for specified questions. I was also thinking of a downloadable file of some sort (even in Excel), but it seems that the SOS example would be best, though I don't know how to implement that on the web. Here is my info: >Location: Washington, DC, US >Roland samplers: S-550 (w/Director S software) >Music style: primarily jazz/funk, machinations of R&B, gospel, hopefully >ambient, DnB, etc. >Website: geocities.com/a6productions >Email address: the one I'm using now >From: "Francois Rossi" >To: "Sgroup" >Subject: RE: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 15:35:47 -0500 > > > >Steven's question got me thinking...there may be some type of this buried >in > >the many messages threads over the years, but is any one interest in a >users > >matrix that holds this sort of info? Data such as: > >May prove useful. > >Yes, to the spiders collecting email address to send you junk mail! > >It would work only if there was a system whereby you click on something to >send an email to someone without having access to the email itself until >you >get a reply from the person you wanted to contact. > >SoundOnSound readers ads work like this to protect email harvest by >spammers. > >Saying that, I'm sure my email address has been collected already by >spammers trawling mailing lists. > >Anyway, here goes: > >Location: UK >Roland samplers: S-330 x 2, S-760 x 2, DA-400 x 1, RC-100 x 1 >Music style: all >Website: s760.us.tt >Email address: the one I'm using now > >Francois > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 16:35:54 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:35:47 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:35:41 -0500 Received: from [80.46.164.126] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18cBSa-0005ok-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:34:01 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > i was thinking along the lines of providing easy contact for > specified questions. That's what I was thinking about when I set to create the S-760 website. There was already some good info in the Sgroup archive, but no easy way of accessing it apart from via the search option which can be a bit hit and miss. I thought I'd give the Sgroup community of sort of FAQ on the S-760 with more bells and whistles. As for implementing something like the SOS readers ads, it probably needs a php interface to sql database or something like that. Not the easy kind to implement unless you know what you're doing. At the end of the day, there's nothing preventing you from asking any question via the mailing list. It is after all one of the purposes of having one. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 16:41:30 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:41:21 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.90]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:41:14 -0500 Received: from grifgraf.demon.co.uk ([194.222.88.198]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18cBZR-000LLj-0W for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:41:05 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:41:42 -0500 Subject: sgroup Floppy disc list From: Pete To: Sgroup Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I came across an old advert from the time when the S-750 came out, and Roland were advertising "Buy this library for =A32750 rrp and get a Roland sampler FREE!" Anyway, this was the list of floppies (followed by "...and LOADS more!!"). Some of them are familiar from the archives, but there are others that I don't recognise. At the very least there are some intriguing titles in the list. Pete Grand Piano Pop piano Electric Piano Pipe Organ and Choir Midi stack FM Stuff Full string section 20th Century Orchestra Suspense Orchestra Cello Solo & Duo Electric Bass G & L Precision Bass Woodwind/Harp Minimoog Bass Electric Guitar Funk Guitar Acoustic Guitar Guitar Mandolin Harp Koto Gagaku Shamisen Biwa Saxophone Mute Trumpet Bright Solo Trumpets Brass section Woodwinds Yokobue Western Wind Indian Wind and Tygong Andien Wind Pan Pipes and Shakuhachi Assorted Kicks Assorted Snares Crash/Splash in stereo Cymbals and Gongs New Drums and 808 Gate City Analogue Percussion Reverb Drums EQ Drum Kits Stereo Drum Kit Latin Percussion Timbales and Toms Conga Mongo in stereo Exotic Hand Percussion Mark Trees and Wind Chimes Indian Percussion Middle Eastern Percussion Eastern flavour African Percussion Ethnic Anklungs and Wind Japanese Percussion Classic Percussions Orchestral Percussion Oooze and Oz Mallet Surf's Up Rock Composers' Tools Designer Trap Set New Strings Electric Piano Classical Composer Series Big Time Ethnic Sound Track Ethnic Grab Bag Stereo Effects Train Ride Air Base Anarchy Time Metal and Glass Effects Jungle Life Wild Kingdom Driving Comedy Props Hollywood Effects Rainy Day Industrial String Techno Sports Disk Glass Sounds Organ Synthesizers Trombone and Tuba Bells Metallic Percussion Combos Non-pitched Percussion Orchestral Hits Pitched Percussion Automotive Background Combat Crowd Destruction Household Human Voice Industrial Music Sci-Fi Small Machinery Nature Sounds Space FX Sound FX Voices - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 16:48:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:47:59 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f78.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.78]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:47:53 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:47:47 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:47:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "Six Stringa" To: francois@chezrossi.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:47:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 21:47:47.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C1E0EE0:01C2C3F2] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Francois, I agree with you on all points. An S550 FAQ would be great, but for me (being on the list so long and being a thread/article hoarder), that would be support new users, nevertheless, it would be nice. The W30/S330 pages I've seen are nice. In addition, if it was easy to identify all S550 users, an S550 specific question would be answered (theoretically) quickly, though it's not my idea to create anything separatist, per se...just thought of breaking things down in speciality areas, somewhat like you did with your excellent S-760 page. >From: "Francois Rossi" >To: "Sgroup" >Subject: RE: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:36:56 -0500 > > > > i was thinking along the lines of providing easy contact for > > specified questions. > >That's what I was thinking about when I set to create the S-760 website. >There was already some good info in the Sgroup archive, but no easy way of >accessing it apart from via the search option which can be a bit hit and >miss. I thought I'd give the Sgroup community of sort of FAQ on the S-760 >with more bells and whistles. > >As for implementing something like the SOS readers ads, it probably needs a >php interface to sql database or something like that. Not the easy kind to >implement unless you know what you're doing. > >At the end of the day, there's nothing preventing you from asking any >question via the mailing list. It is after all one of the purposes of >having >one. > >Francois > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 16:59:28 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:59:20 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:59:09 -0500 Received: from [80.46.164.126] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18cBpE-000Cmc-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:57:24 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:00:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > somewhat like you did with your excellent S-760 page. I'm probably mad but I'll add the specifics of the other 700 series later. Martin Wulf has a nice page on the S-330. However, I'ne really seen anything on the S-550. Feel free to take on the mantle ;-) Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 17:29:21 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:29:16 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f12.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.12]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12008>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:29:06 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:28:59 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:28:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "Six Stringa" To: francois@chezrossi.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:28:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 22:28:59.0633 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD735E10:01C2C3F7] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >From: "Francois Rossi" >To: "Sgroup" >Subject: RE: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:00:20 -0500 > > > > somewhat like you did with your excellent S-760 page. > >I'm probably mad but I'll add the specifics of the other 700 series later. Cool >Martin Wulf has a nice page on the S-330. However, I'ne really seen >anything >on the S-550. Feel free to take on the mantle ;-) Have already thought about it ;-) Once I hone my html skills, I may just do that...that's if I can find some time in a bottle...;-) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 24 17:36:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:36:43 -0500 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12007>; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:36:40 -0500 Received: from user-2iniv46.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.124.134] helo=randyhoffix) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18cCQy-0003nX-00; Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:36:27 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c2c3f9$027525a0$867c79a5@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Six Stringa" , , References: Subject: Re: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:35:20 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Randy Hoffman S550, S750, D550, JV1080, DM5, MidiVerb4, MTP2 Film Music Southern California rhoffman@ix.netcom.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Six Stringa To: ; Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) > Steven's question got me thinking...there may be some type of this buried in > the many messages threads over the years, but is any one interest in a users > matrix that holds this sort of info? Data such as: > > - Name or username > - Type of sampler(s)used > - Style of music > - Geographical location > - Website, if any > - Software designed, if any > - email address > > etc...? > > May prove useful. > > > >From: Steven Downhill > >To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" > >Subject: sgroup What style? > >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:36:00 -0500 > > > >Hi everybody, > > > >I'm curious... what style(s) of music is everyone out there currently using > >their Roland samplers and other hardware for?. > > > >Steven > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 02:21:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:21:28 -0500 Received: from mx1.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.114]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 02:21:21 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:21:19 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:21:19 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: sgroup Various questions: new s760 owner!! 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Thread-Index: AcLDwndakFcO30JxSJKMRNH4QG/hggAfxmwD From: "Ullrich Peter" To: , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 07:21:19.0166 (UTC) FILETIME=[5AE555E0:01C2C442] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk SGkhDQoNCgk+QXQgb25lIHRpbWUgbGFzdCB5ZWFyIHRoZXJlIHdlcmUgYXQgbGVhc3QgZm91ciBN VS0xIG1vdXNlcyBvbiBlQmF5IGFsbA0KdGhlDQoJPnRpbWUNCgk+IA0KCT5NYXliZSBpdCdzIGJl Y2F1c2UgSSBsaXZlIGluIENhbmFkYS4uLmJ1dCBub3cgSSBjYW4ndCBmaW5kIGV2ZW4gb25lIGZv cg0KbXkNCgk+MzMwIChhbnlvbmUgaGF2ZSBhbnkgY2x1ZXM/KQ0KCQ0KDQoJVGhlcmUgYXJlIG90 aGVyIGNoYW5jZXMgZm9yIHlvdSB0byBnZXQgYSBtb3VzZToNCg0KCTEuIEhhdmUgYSBsb29rIGZv ciBhIHN0YW5kYXJkIE1TWC1tb3VzZS4gVGhlIFJvbGFuZCBzYW1wbGVycyB1c2UNCnN0YW5kYXJk IE1TWCBtaWNlIQ0KDQoJMi4gVGhlcmUgYXJlIHNvbWUgbW91c2UgY29udmVydGVycyBvdXQgdGhl cmUgdGhhdCB0YWtlIGEgc2VyaWFsIFBDLA0KQXRhcmkgb3IgQW1pZ2EgbW91c2UgYW5kIGNvbnZl cnQgdGhlIHNpZ25hbHMgaW50byBNU1ggbW91c2Ugc2lnbmFsIHRoYXQgZml0IHRoZQ0KUm9sYW5k IHNhbXBsZXJzLiBUaGVyZSBhcmUgc29tZSBjb21tZXJjaWFsIHByb2R1Y3QgbGlrZSBOaWNlLU1v dXNlIGFuZCBQQzk4IChJDQp0aGluaykgYnV0IHlvdSBjYW4gYnVpbGQgaXQgeW91cnNlbGYgdG9v IQ0KDQoJSSBkZXNpZ25lZCBhIG1vdXNlIGNvbnZlcnRlciB0aGF0IGNvbnZlcnRzIGEgQXRhcmkg b3IgQW1pZ2EgbW91c2UgaW50byBhDQpNU1ggY29tcGF0aWJsZSBtb3VzZS4gWW91IGNhbiBzZWUg dGhlIHByb3RvdHlwZSBvbiBteSB3ZWJwYWdlIChsaW5rIG9uIHRoZQ0KUzMzMC9TNTUwL1M3NjAg cGFnZXMpLiBJIHdpbGwgcHV0IHRoZSBkZXNpZ24gZGV0YWlscyBvbmxpbmUgc28gdGhhdCBlZXZl cnlib2RhDQpjb3VsZCBidWlsdCBpdCBpZiBoZSBoYXMgc29tZSBlbGVjdHJvbmljIGV4cGVyaWVu Y2VzLiBJIGRlY2lkZWQgdG8gZ2l2ZSBpdCBhd2F5DQpmb3IgZnJlZSBhcyBJIGhhdmUgbm8gdGlt ZSB0byBtYWtlIGEgY29tbWVyY2lhbCBwcm9kdWN0IG9mIGl0LiBJIGFsc28gbWFkZSBhDQpjaXJj dWl0IHRoYXQgY29udmVydHMgYSBzZXJpYWwgUEMgbW91c2UgaW50byBNU1ggYnV0IEkgaGFkIG5v IHRpbWUgdG8gZmluaXNoIHRoZQ0Kc29mdHdhcmUuLi4NCg0KCUNpYW8NCg0KCVBldGVyDQoNCglo dHRwOi8vdWxscmljaC5hdC50dA0KDQo= - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 09:03:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:03:44 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl ([194.151.104.183]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:03:30 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.241.98]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:05:11 +0100 Message-ID: <00b501c2c47a$bb158880$62f14bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" References: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C97@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> Subject: Re: sgroup What style? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:04:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, Using a sampler for drums (homestudio) and other samplers for added goodies & tracks (rehearsals & gigs). Styles: band #1 alternative / groovenoise site - www.shirtlifter.nl download mp3's - http://stage.vitaminic.nl/shirtlifter2 band #2 fuzzmambo/soundtrack-a-go-go Always hard to describe the stuff you love doing... Bye, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Downhill To: SGROUP (E-mail) Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:36 PM Subject: sgroup What style? > Hi everybody, > > I'm curious... what style(s) of music is everyone out there currently using > their Roland samplers and other hardware for?. > > Steven > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 11:43:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:42:58 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:42:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 14029 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jan 2003 16:42:44 -0000 Received: from 213-194-2-20.dialup.raketnet.nl (HELO projectmarketeer) (213.194.2.20) by mail.gmx.net (mp017-rz3) with SMTP; 25 Jan 2003 16:42:44 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c2c491$769e8f00$1402c2d5@projectmarketeer> From: "Sjaak de Vos" To: Subject: Re: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:47:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Sjaak, guitarplayer, fender strat/ Roland gp -100 and a Musicman 112 Rd amp. Use my S750 in my home studio, for "real" drums and other sounds availlable. Other gear: Korg Ms2000, Roland jv-880, Yamaha Psr-500, Boss vf-1, Roland gr-30 git. synthesizer, two Behringer patch bays, cheap Soundlab mixer, Ada Mp-1 tube pre-amp,old Pentium I, a little bit less older PII 400 Mhz with a EWS 64 XL sound card and a 40 Gig hard drive for my recordings (and a Sony minidisc, always there for a quick recording). And 7 or 8 guitars and some old gear. Practise, fun, frustration and working out/recording ideas for 1,5 bands homepage stil under construction). Next week two gigs with my band "Garbo Talks", style: pop/rock, some influence from jazz/blues/reggea and in the future maybe house techno and so on influences. Now I have to go practising with the band....... Sjaak. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 12:04:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:04:44 -0500 Received: from ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com ([65.24.7.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:04:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (grv230145.columbus.rr.com [204.210.230.145]) by ohsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h0PH4RLi017062 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:04:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:04:51 -0500 From: Gaffa X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Personal Reply-To: Gaffa X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <164185273138.20030125120451@columbus.rr.com> To: Roland S-Group Subject: Re: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'm primarily a bass player who covers keyboard parts. I use my S750 mostly for live performance. I trigger it with a Chapman Stick that has a GK2A pickup connected to a GR-33. This allows me to play bass and keys at the same time. I also use a PK-5 midi pedal as a controller. I have an 8-channel midiman to switch between controllers. I also use a Roland V-Bass hooked to a G-77 bass, but since that doesn't do pitch to midi, I just use it to switch patches and parameters during play. I also have an S50 that I use as a controller in my home studio. My band does alternative rock. Many compare it to bands such as Garbage or Poe. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 15:06:08 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:06:02 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:05:55 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.186.233]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030125200549.URYN9286.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:05:49 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c2c4ac$90f9bc60$e9ba580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <001001c2c491$769e8f00$1402c2d5@projectmarketeer> Subject: Re: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:01:35 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C482.A7850360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C482.A7850360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My turn, In the requested sequence: Name:Harold Everton, Jr. Location: New York City, USA Samplers: Roland S760 w/32MB, Zip & CD-ROM. Hope to own two someday. Music Style: All - But area of dedicated work would be Funk/R&B/Pop (Big = QuincyJones/Prince fan) Web Site: www.evertonrecords.com Email: Let's not discuss that Good Day, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C482.A7850360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Good Day,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C2C482.A7850360-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 15:14:32 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:14:26 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:14:16 -0500 Received: from epu1 (233.new-york-14rh15rt-ny.dial-access.att.net[12.88.186.233]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2003012520140911300g555ne>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:14:09 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c2c4ad$baaa3b60$e9ba580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup What Sample CDs are you getting next? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:09:55 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2C483.D14DEC60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2C483.D14DEC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everyone, I'm still waiting for my copy of the Roland formatted Quantum Leap = Guitars & Bass CD from B&H. It was a special order, so they told me it = would take two weeks minimum. Anyhow, I was looking through catalogs and = listening to demos and was taken by the Digital Boy Modern Synths and = Dance Sample CD from Ilio. I'll make it clear that I'm not really hip to the dance/techno scene = (but I since I have a day job as a marketing person at a Music Retail = Chain, I do know who's who), but this CD's title is very misleading. = These CDs have a stunning collection of vintage synths, modern synths = and electronic drums all recorded in stereo (thick & fat). These aren't = just mere samples from Nord Leads & Junos. In the case of the = aforementioned, in addition to sampling some patches from these beasts, = new sounds were created for the purposes of having sounds that exist in = no other collection. In other words, this is no Gigapack. this CD could function as a synth = itself - As if you went out and bought a new dedicated synth. They tag = it as the 21st Century Synth Collection. Their tag does it some serious = justice. Not only that, but like some other sample CD producers, they = update it. In this case, they already have a Version 2.0. You guys = should check out the demo. It's somewhat expensive, but the demo conveys = that it is worth the save. Check out the site: http://www.ilio.com/ilio/digiboy/ Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2C483.D14DEC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Everyone,
 
I'm still waiting for my copy of the = Roland=20 formatted Quantum Leap Guitars & Bass CD from B&H. It was a = special=20 order, so they told me it would take two weeks minimum. Anyhow, I was = looking=20 through catalogs and listening to demos and was taken by the Digital Boy = Modern=20 Synths and Dance Sample CD from Ilio.
 
I'll make it clear that I'm not really = hip to the=20 dance/techno scene (but I since I have a day job as a marketing person = at a=20 Music Retail Chain, I do know who's who), but this CD's title is very=20 misleading. These CDs have a stunning collection of vintage synths, = modern=20 synths and electronic drums all recorded in stereo (thick & fat). = These=20 aren't just mere samples from Nord Leads & Junos. In the case of the = aforementioned, in addition to sampling some patches from these beasts, = new=20 sounds were created for the purposes of having sounds that exist in no = other=20 collection.
 
In other words, this is no Gigapack. = this CD could=20 function as a synth itself - As if you went out and bought a new = dedicated=20 synth. They tag it as the 21st Century Synth Collection. Their tag does = it some=20 serious justice. Not only that, but like some other sample CD producers, = they=20 update it. In this case, they already have a Version 2.0. You guys = should check=20 out the demo. It's somewhat expensive, but the demo conveys that it is = worth the=20 save. Check out the site:
 
http://www.ilio.com/ilio/digib= oy/
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2C483.D14DEC60-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 15:26:36 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:26:31 -0500 Received: from web40607.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.78.144]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:26:16 -0500 Message-ID: <20030125202613.16089.qmail@web40607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.24.94.11] by web40607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:26:13 PST Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:26:13 -0500 From: DJ boomstick Subject: Re: sgroup What style? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <00b501c2c47a$bb158880$62f14bd5@ptr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > > Hi everybody, > > > > I'm curious... what style(s) of music is everyone > out there currently > using > > their Roland samplers and other hardware for?. > > > > Steven techno / industrial / ambiant s330 , s550w/SCSI , two 80mg HDs , rc100 , mc500 mk2 , boss dr660 more extencive discription here : http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/2280/page3.html near the bottom of the page s550 tips and tricks : http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/2280/houseofboom/BOOMDEX.HTM i use this email address __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 16:58:30 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:58:21 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f91.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.91]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:58:15 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:58:13 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.128 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:58:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.128] From: "Six Stringa" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup User matrix file Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:58:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 21:58:13.0668 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB953640:01C2C4BC] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ok, I see a few have provided some information. I'll take the effort to compile it into an Excel file or Word file (both should be accessible to most, if not all list members). John S., anything I need to know to upload it to the archives? peace. Doug _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 17:29:34 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:29:25 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:29:19 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:29:13 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:29:13 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: AW: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) 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Thread-Index: AcLEs1l7VKD2u3ffRuyqOc8SF0coQQAB5JJn From: "Ullrich Peter" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 22:29:13.0808 (UTC) FILETIME=[30500D00:01C2C4C1] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk SGVyZSBpcyBteSBwYXJ0Og0KDQoJTmFtZTogUGV0ZXIgVUxMUklDSA0KCUxvY2F0aW9uOiBCcnVu biBhbSBHZWJpcmdlLCBBVVNUUklBLCBFVVJPUEUgIChuZWFyIHRoZSBWaWVubmEsIHRoZQ0KY2Fw aXRvbCBvZiBBdXN0cmlhKQ0KCVNhbXBsZXJzOiANCgkgIDF4IFJvbGFuZCBTNzYwIHdpdGggMzJN QiwgTVUtMSBNb3VzZSwgUkMtMTAwLCBEVC0xMDAsIENEUk9NLCBaSVAyNTANCgkgIDJ4IFJvbGFu ZCBTLTMzMCB3aXRoIGEgbG90IGRpc2tldHRlcw0KCSAgMnggUm9sYW5kIFMtNTUwOiBvbmUgd2l0 aCBIRDUtSUYgU0NTSS1JbnRlcmZhY2UgYW5kIGV4dGVybmFsIFNvbnkNCmNkcm9tIGRyaXZlDQoJ RHluYWNvcmQgQWRkVHdvIGRydW0gc2FtcGxlcg0KCU11c2ljIFN0eWxlOiB3YW50IHRvIG1ha2Ug bXVzaWMgbGlrZTogSmVhbiBNaWNoZWwgSmFycmUsIEVueWEsDQpLcmFmdHdlcmssIE1lZGl0YXRp b24gTXVzaWMsIFBvcA0KCVdlYiBTaXRlOiBodHRwOi8vdWxscmljaC5hdC50dA0KCUVtYWlsOiBt YWlsdG86Ly91bGxyaWNoQGFvbi5hdA0KCSANCglDaWFvDQoJUGV0ZXINCg0K - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 18:17:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:17:50 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:17:44 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0PNHI493171 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:17:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from quay.tripfinder.com.au (www.tripfinder.com.au [61.8.3.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:56:10 -0500 Received: from parrot.cairead.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quay.tripfinder.com.au (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h0PGu2K08772 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 03:56:02 +1100 (EST) Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA02348 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:55:59 GMT Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id QAA12272 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:55:59 GMT Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:55:59 -0500 From: Nic Grant To: Roland Samplers Subject: Re: sgroup What style? Message-ID: <20030125165559.A12260@uv.cairead.com> References: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C97@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> <00b501c2c47a$bb158880$62f14bd5@ptr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00b501c2c47a$bb158880$62f14bd5@ptr>; from Peter.Vermeeren@hetnet.nl on Sat, Jan 25, 2003 at 09:04:49AM -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk to quote P. Vermeeren: => site - www.shirtlifter.nl Hmm. Je weet toch wat een 'shirtlifter' betekent, ja? Regards, Nic. -- Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, voice/fax: +1 650 618 1713 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 18:18:09 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:18:01 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.236]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:17:51 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0PNHYf93178 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:17:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from kogut2.o2.pl ([212.126.20.58]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25196>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:10:44 -0500 Received: from n2f3s7 (dial641.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl [217.30.132.133]) by kogut2.o2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EF0F72AAA for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:10:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001701c2c4c7$1ce4fc20$85841ed9@n2f3s7> From: "slaq" To: References: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764CC460@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> Subject: Odp: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:11:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk country: poland nick: slaq band name: eyem / vewniaque project [unsigned] inspirations: can, autechre, the orb, king crimson, yes, mouse on mars, bartok, my bloody valentine, coil, etc. roland gear: s 750, 18 MB, rc-100, mouse, monitor, zip drive - no cd-roms, only home-made samples other gear: 2 X clavia nord modular, doepfer ms 404, yamaha tg 55, yamaha rm 50, digitech studio quad, digitech studio 400, yamaha rev 500, dynacord mini echo, tl audio eq 1, line 6 pod, behringer patchbays, old seck mixer, soundcraft spirit folio f1 mixer, PC with 2 X sek'd siena, shure & akg mikes, fender & rickenbacker guitars and basses, sonar and samplitude software, various ethnic percussion instruments, istanbul cymbals genre: electro-acoustic ambient / experimental / noise www: still to be developed , further info coming soon currently working on: new material, nord modular library for the s7XX greetz slaq - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 25 22:40:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:40:32 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25195>; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:40:25 -0500 Received: from dialup-67.30.177.55.dial.boston1.level3.net ([67.30.177.55] helo=mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18cded-0006tm-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3E3358E9.20008@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:41:29 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) References: <001001c2c491$769e8f00$1402c2d5@projectmarketeer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Sjaak de Vos wrote: >Use my S750 in my home studio, for "real" drums and other sounds availlable. >Other gear: Korg Ms2000, Roland jv-880, Yamaha Psr-500, Boss vf-1, Roland >gr-30 git. synthesizer, two Behringer patch bays, cheap Soundlab mixer, Ada >Mp-1 tube pre-amp > What's the VF-1 like? I know it's the same FX unit you can get in the Roland VS series recorders. Are the effects very nice? Does it have digital ins and outs? And what about the MP-1? I have a nice Rode mike and a Yamaha AW-4416 and the AW doesn't give me as much volume with the mike as I'd like. What mikes and recorders are you using with the MP-1? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 26 08:57:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:57:31 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.65.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:57:21 -0500 Received: (qmail 25620 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jan 2003 13:57:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO projectmarketeer) (213.194.1.183) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 26 Jan 2003 13:57:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c2c543$80fde9c0$b701c2d5@projectmarketeer> From: "Sjaak de Vos" To: , "Jesse Segovia" Subject: Re: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:01:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse asked: >What's the VF-1 like? I know it's the same FX unit you can get in the >Roland VS series recorders. Are the effects very nice? The effects, it's not all very high quality but you can give a sound a twist or boost so that it changes beyond recognition and fits better in your music. It has very nice chorusses and flangers, just to name something, this unit has a lot of different effects (46) and algorithms (36) and can be used for keyboard, bass, guitar, mic's, drums and anything else you can plug in (No XLR !). And the vf has the capability to in/external time-sync your time based effects, Bpm is adjustable. Short: very bad are the distortion/metal preamp sims in the git alg. The compressor in the Bass algorithm is Very Noisy. But they are only two things you get with the VF-1 package. I use the VF-1 mostly for my jv-880 and S750, It simply makes my music sound better or even completely different, beyond recognition of the original (patch). Sometimes I plug in a guitar or a bass or mic, it's nice to have this thing around. I'm reasonable satisfied with this unit but I would like to have a somewhat more expensive and (better ?) unit like Tc electronics and AB it (maybe later this year, I gave up smoking so that means more money for my gear). I find the reverbs are sometimes a little bit cheap sounding (although I do get good results after a lot of tweeking using the dedicated reverb algorithm's). At this time I consider the vf as a vital much used unit in my setup. If it got lost or broke I would consider buying a more expensive one, but I think its possible I would find myself buying a VF-1 again. But, like I said earlier, the reverbs sometimes sound a little cheap and too bright, I guess this could be said for the whole unit (but then I'm at the top of my critics). Couple of weeks ago I was reading an article and this guy said : you can't have too much effects units. >Does it have digital ins and outs? Yes for the digital OUT, no for the digital in. It has two independent adjustable analog inputs, these are very nice to use when the original signal is very weak and I want to cranck it up before recording on hard disc (cubase). It has midi In and Out (no Thru) and a connection for a footswitch/expression pedal. And two analog outputs........ >And what about the MP-1? I have a nice Rode mike and a Yamaha AW-4416 >and the AW doesn't give me as much volume with the mike as I'd like. > What mikes and recorders are you using with the MP-1? I originally bought the Ada Mp-1 as a preamp for guitar (but I almost always use my Gp-100). I only have cheap dynamic mic's ( two belong to a old tape recording unit and another is from Taiwan, a Realistic). Whenever I need to use a Mic I always use the Mp-1 (1 input, two outputs and a send return & midi in/out/thru, no XLR). The Mp-1 provides lot's of adjustable volume (I can see that on the level indicators of the Boss vf-1), no complaints. With these cheap mic's and using the VF after the Mp-1 I've been able to make some nice recordings (Cubase) The ada preamp is very necessary for good mic recordings in my setup. But I think every mic loves a Preamp. Sjaak - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 26 13:04:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3922>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:03:57 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.98]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:03:43 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.12b.212956e4 (16781) for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:03:32 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <12b.212956e4.2b657cf4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:03:32 -0500 Subject: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi, I think I only got sys 2.0 with my new s760. is there a 2.24 Mac image online somewhere? I downloaded the file s760223.hqx and it does not expand properly (Stuffit give me a "Shrikwrap error"). I tried unzipping the s76024.zip and it gave me a file: "S760224.out" which is not recognized as a disk image by Smac... any help? jt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 26 13:09:10 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:09:06 -0500 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:08:56 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.182.15d385ac (16781) for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:08:50 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <182.15d385ac.2b657e31@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:08:49 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk more info: system 2.20 from the sgroup archive (.hqx) unstuffed withour an error, but SMac is saying "wrong length"... jt In a message dated 1/26/03 10:04:32 AM, Myrios@aol.com writes: >hi, >I think I only got sys 2.0 with my new s760. >is there a 2.24 Mac image online somewhere? I downloaded the file >s760223.hqx and it does not expand properly (Stuffit give me a "Shrikwrap > >error"). > >I tried unzipping the s76024.zip and it gave me a file: "S760224.out" which > >is not recognized as a disk image by Smac... > >any help? >jt > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-xc02.mx.aol.com (rly-xc02.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.135]) >by air-xc04.mail.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXC44-0126130432; >Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:04:32 -0500 >Received: from hugin.uunet.ca (hugin.uunet.ca [209.167.141.2]) by rly-xc02.mx.aol.com >(v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXC210-0126130419; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 >13:04:19 -0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-3922>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:04:09 >-0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:04:01 >-0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3922>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:03:57 >-0500 >Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.98]) by hugin.uunet.ca >with ESMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:03:43 -0500 >Received: from Myrios@aol.com > by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.12b.212956e4 (16781) > for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:03:32 -0500 (EST) >From: Myrios@aol.com >Message-ID: <12b.212956e4.2b657cf4@aol.com> >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:03:32 -0500 >Subject: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 >Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Precedence: bulk > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 26 14:48:08 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:47:59 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:47:49 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.29.203]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030126194919.XBLY3410.mail@[208.138.29.203]>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:49:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <12b.212956e4.2b657cf4@aol.com> References: <12b.212956e4.2b657cf4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 14:40:36 -0500 To: Myrios@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 1:03 PM -0500 26/1/2003, Myrios@aol.com wrote: >hi, >I think I only got sys 2.0 with my new s760. >is there a 2.24 Mac image online somewhere? I downloaded the file >s760223.hqx and it does not expand properly (Stuffit give me a "Shrikwrap >error"). > >I tried unzipping the s76024.zip and it gave me a file: "S760224.out" which >is not recognized as a disk image by Smac... > >any help? >jt > r u on mac or pc? rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 26 16:13:32 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:13:28 -0500 Received: from mercury.is.co.za ([196.4.160.222]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:13:12 -0500 Received: from [196.33.246.164] (c9-rba-164.dial-up.net [196.33.246.164]) by mercury.is.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B733B8C66 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:12:55 +0200 (SAST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@pop.icon.co.za Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <12b.212956e4.2b657cf4@aol.com> References: <12b.212956e4.2b657cf4@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:12:44 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >hi, >I think I only got sys 2.0 with my new s760. >is there a 2.24 Mac image online somewhere? I downloaded the file >s760223.hqx and it does not expand properly Have you tried this link?: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clouzeau/s760/files/S760OS224.bin I believe it's a DART image though it may work with Stuffit or Shrinkwrap Regards - Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 26 16:37:58 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:37:50 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:37:47 -0500 Received: from [80.46.147.92] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18cuNx-000Bfj-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:32:13 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:38:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > I believe it's a DART image though it may work with Stuffit or Shrinkwrap It is a DART image but you can use Disk Copy, standard with all Apple OS nowadays, to write it back to floppy. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 26 17:18:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:17:56 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl (net90s.hetnet.nl [194.151.104.183]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:17:41 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.157.231]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:19:52 +0100 Message-ID: <002701c2c589$03308ca0$e79d4bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: "Roland Samplers" , "Nic Grant" References: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01C97@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> <00b501c2c47a$bb158880$62f14bd5@ptr> <20030125165559.A12260@uv.cairead.com> Subject: Re: sgroup What style? Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:19:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hoi Nic, Yep, weten we. Zagen we niet als een bezwaar toen we de naam kozen in uhm, ergens begin jaren '90. Je zult begrijpen dat we niet meer als 'Bleach' door het leven wilden toen Nirvana hun tweede LP uitbracht en bekend werd... Groeten, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Nic Grant To: Roland Samplers Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:55 PM Subject: Re: sgroup What style? > to quote P. Vermeeren: > => site - www.shirtlifter.nl > > Hmm. Je weet toch wat een 'shirtlifter' betekent, ja? > > Regards, > Nic. > > -- > Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, voice/fax: +1 650 618 1713 > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 26 23:51:52 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3922>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:51:44 -0500 Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:51:33 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.233.73]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030127045130.FCZH3094.out003.verizon.net@rickearn> for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:51:30 -0600 Message-ID: <00a201c2c5d8$ee98e300$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: References: Subject: Re: User matrix (was: Re: sgroup What style?) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 02:51:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [151.201.233.73] at Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:51:29 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Sorry all, I've been out of town for the last week, but wanted to reply to this message so I could be included in whatever goes on. Also, I have been creating websites for years...and so would like to offer my services free of charge to anyone who thinks it might help. I find this list very helpful, and it would be a way for me to "give back". Here's my reply: > - Name or username Rick Earnhardt > - Type of sampler(s)used Roland S-50 (with a bad jack board) Roland S-550 (recently won on ebay, shipping) Other relative equipment: Roland JV-1080 w/expansion card Roland MC-500mkII Sequencer Roland MC-50 Sequencer Yamaha SY-35 Roland Juno-1 Rackmount (explained in an earlier thread) Art SGE Samick SM-122 12-channel mixer Heil Talkbox > - Style of music I love all music, but am partial to, and have performed for the last 12 or so years, R&B, funk, soul...etc, and recently with a gospel group called 2x2. I am now auditioning for a full time gig on the Gateway Clipper fleet in Pittsburgh, PA (houseband). Examples of samples used: Atomic Dog (George Clinton), Creep (TLC), Let it Whip (Dazz Band), Let's Groove Tonite (Earth Wind & Fire), lots of horn stabs (synths just never did the job here). > - Geographical location Sharon, PA, US (between Pittsburgh and Cleveland) > - Website, if any www.steelcitymusic.tk www.blessednew.com > - Software designed, if any none to my knowledge :) > - email address same as above > >From: Steven Downhill > >To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" > >Subject: sgroup What style? > >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:36:00 -0500 > > > >Hi everybody, > > > >I'm curious... what style(s) of music is everyone out there currently using > >their Roland samplers and other hardware for?. > > > >Steven > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 27 05:19:42 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-17864>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:19:34 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17864>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:19:30 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:12:00 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01CA8@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" Subject: sgroup Re: What Style? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 05:11:50 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks to everyone who's replied to my question on what styles of music they're currently producing. It's interesting to know that you are all using your samplers etc for quite different musical genres. (I must admit when I first asked the question I thought I'd get a majority of replies saying "I make pop/rock" music.) Like most of you I'm not really into pigeon-holing myself as a particular style. The only way I can describe what I do would be to quote one of my favourite artists' (Derrick May) track titles - "It is what it is". (Sorry for the cryptic explanation). As for influences... well there are too many to mention. Just about any sound gives me inspiration for a track. For the record I'm currently using the following Roland samplers:- a non-scsi W30 and a fully expanded S760 (32Mb, DA400, MU1, OP760/1). They're used to sample everything from spoken word "Birth Control" records to 70's Geoff Love Galactic Disco LP's as well as the more obvious stuff. (Although you wouldn't know by listening to them as the original samples get seriously abused!.). Steven IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither Brother International Europe Ltd nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). If you believe you have received this communication in error, please return it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then delete the email and destroy any copies of it. We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 27 08:33:28 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-17863>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:33:21 -0500 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17863>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:33:15 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust248.tnt10.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.120.248]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id OAA23809 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:33:04 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3E342700.3080603@cityweb.de> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:20:48 -0500 From: Ingo Debus User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC; de-DE; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac References: <12b.212956e4.2b657cf4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Myrios@aol.com schrieb: > hi, > I think I only got sys 2.0 with my new s760. > is there a 2.24 Mac image online somewhere? I downloaded the file > s760223.hqx and it does not expand properly (Stuffit give me a "Shrikwrap > error"). > > I tried unzipping the s76024.zip and it gave me a file: "S760224.out" which > is not recognized as a disk image by Smac... You need the "SAM_2_Roland 1.4megable" version. If you don't find it, I can send it directly to you. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 27 15:51:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-17863>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:51:40 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl (net047s.hetnet.nl [194.151.104.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17863>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:51:33 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.224.216]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:53:44 +0100 Message-ID: <00b601c2c646$25fdde00$d8e04bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" References: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01CA8@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> Subject: Re: sgroup Re: What Style? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:53:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > (I must admit when I first asked the question I thought I'd get a majority > of replies saying "I make pop/rock" music.) That's interesting - I mean, sometimes I get the feeling that 95% of the people who use samplers are into some form of dance-related music. (I'm not, but that doesn't matter - 95, 40 or 100, all fine by me) FWIW... Bye, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Downhill To: SGROUP (E-mail) Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:11 AM Subject: sgroup Re: What Style? > Thanks to everyone who's replied to my question on what styles of music > they're currently producing. > It's interesting to know that you are all using your samplers etc for quite > different musical genres. > (I must admit when I first asked the question I thought I'd get a majority > of replies saying "I make pop/rock" music.) > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 27 16:49:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-17863>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:49:47 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f90.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.90]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17863>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:49:44 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:49:40 -0800 Received: from 128.183.85.78 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:49:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.183.85.78] From: "Six Stringa" To: Peter.Vermeeren@hetnet.nl, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Re: What Style? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:49:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2003 21:49:40.0321 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE6E2D10:01C2C64D] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Interesting you mentioned that....I think that is an assumption that many make as of late...especially in hip-hop and R&B genres...which is cool. I like the idea of not only expanding my synth rig (especially lush strings) by the use of sampling, but morphing sounds. One of the best inventions since sliced bread. >From: "P. Vermeeren" >To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" >Subject: Re: sgroup Re: What Style? >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 15:53:28 -0500 > > > (I must admit when I first asked the question I thought I'd get a >majority > > of replies saying "I make pop/rock" music.) > >That's interesting - I mean, sometimes I get the feeling that 95% of the >people who use samplers are into some form of dance-related music. > >(I'm not, but that doesn't matter - 95, 40 or 100, all fine by me) > >FWIW... > >Bye, > > Peter > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Steven Downhill >To: SGROUP (E-mail) >Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:11 AM >Subject: sgroup Re: What Style? > > > > Thanks to everyone who's replied to my question on what styles of music > > they're currently producing. > > It's interesting to know that you are all using your samplers etc for >quite > > different musical genres. > > (I must admit when I first asked the question I thought I'd get a >majority > > of replies saying "I make pop/rock" music.) > > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 27 17:03:13 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-17864>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:03:05 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17864>; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:03:02 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:02:49 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 27 Jan 2003 23:02:49 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: sgroup Webpage Update: DIY Mouse Converter design is online! 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Thread-Index: AcLGThFj9F7z0xmyQ/20hMzirVAEnwAAKZwL From: "Ullrich Peter" To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2003 22:02:49.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4F50A60:01C2C64F] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk CUhhbGxvIEZyaWVuZHMhDQoNCglBIGZldyB3ZWVrcyBhZ28gSSBkZWNpZGVkIHRvIHB1dCB0aGUg bmVjZXNzYXJ5IGRlc2lnbiBkZXRhaWxzIG9mIG15DQpBdGFyaS9BbWlnYSB0byBNU1ggbW91c2Ug Y29udmVydGVyIGZvciB0aGUgUm9sYW5kIHNhbXBsZXJzIG9ubGluZS4gTm93IEkgZm91bmQNCnNv bWUgdGltZSB0byBkbyB0aGlzLg0KDQoJRmVlbCBmcmVlIHRvIGhhdmUgYSBsb29rIGF0IGl0LCBj b3B5IGl0IGFuZCBidWlsZCBpdCENCg0KCUkgYWxzbyBtYWRlIGEgUENCIGRlc2lnbiBidXQgaGFk IG5vIHRpbWUgdG8gZXRjaCBhIFBDQiBhbmQgdGVzdCBpdC4gVGhlDQpmaXJtd2FyZSB3b3JrcyBv biBteSBwcm90b3R5cGUgKGFzIG9uIHRoZSBwaWN0dXJlcykgd2l0aCBhbiA4N0M1MSBidXQgYWxz byB0aGUNCkF0bWVsIDg5QzUxIGFuZCA4OUM1MiBzaG91bGQgYmUgcG9zc2libGUuDQoNCglJZiBh bnlvbmUgb2YgeW91IG1ha2VzIGEgUENCIG9mIG15IGxheW91dCBwbGVhc2UgbGV0IG1lIGtub3cg aWYgdGhlDQpkZXNpZ24gaXMgT0sgb3IgaWYgdGhlcmUgYXJlIGVycm9ycy4gDQoNCglGZWVkYmFj ayBpcyB3ZWxjb21lLiBMZXQgbWUga25vdyBpZiB5b3UgYnVpbGQgaXQhDQoNCglBcyB0aGVyZSB3 ZXJlIHF1aXRlIGEgbG90IG9mIHF1ZXN0aW9ucyB0aGUgbGFzdCB3ZWVrczogVGhlIHNlcmlhbCBt b3VzZQ0KY29udmVydGVyIGlzIHN0aWxsIE5PVCBGSU5JU0hFRC4gQW5zIEkgdGhpbmsgdGhhdCBJ IHdpbGwgbm90IGZpbmQgZW5vdWdoIHRpbWUgdG8NCndyaXRlIHRoZSBzb2Z0d2FyZSBpbiB0ZWgg bmV4dCB3ZWVrcyBvciBldmVuIG1vbnRocy4gVGhlIHNvZnR3YXJlIGlzIHN0YXJ0ZWQgYnV0DQpu b3cgdGhlIGRlYnVnZ2luZyBwaGFzZSB3aXRoIG15IHNpbXBsZSBzaW5nbGVjaGlwIGVtdWxhdG9y IHNob3VsZCBzdGFydC4uLg0KDQoJQ2lhbw0KCVBldGVyDQoNCglodHRwOi8vdWxscmljaC5hdC50 dA0KDQo= - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 08:52:35 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:52:28 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f103.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:52:23 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 05:52:21 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.105 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:52:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.105] From: "Six Stringa" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 08:52:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2003 13:52:21.0938 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B097920:01C2C6D4] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi folks, One thing I've always wanted to do is create realistic horn using my S-550. I'm currently writing a song that I want a horn section in, but the S-550 library samples don't seem to be cutting it. I have the complete Roland S-550 library as well as the S-50 and S-330 library. What I'd like to learn is a basic procedure for creating good horn section that sound as realistic as could be, basically trumpet, tenor sax, alto sax and trombone at the most. Stuff like an occassional horn blast and some nice crescendos. I've been basically using my stock samples as is, and those I create from other samples have been pretty simple. It's obviously that an old sampler like the S-550 has vast sample editing/creating features, so...any tips, resources or pointers would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to avoid the route (at least at the moment) of purchasing sample CDs, I'd like to learn my machine's capabilities first. Thanks in advance... Doug _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 09:52:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:52:14 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f226.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:52:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 06:51:55 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:51:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "Six Stringa" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup samples resource Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:51:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2003 14:51:55.0374 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCF888E0:01C2C6DC] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Already I find it quite useful: http://www.oneshotsamples.com/ peace, D _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 15:26:30 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:26:24 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([66.203.197.221]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:26:14 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0SKQ1a37627 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:26:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from kogut.o2.pl ([212.126.20.61]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 03:02:14 -0500 Received: from n2f3s7 (dial-773.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl [62.87.139.5]) by kogut.o2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C9F127F9E for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:46:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000c01c2c5da$82b77a00$058b573e@n2f3s7> From: "slaq" To: Subject: sgroup a questio scsii driive + 1u chassis Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:02:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2C5E2.E3787BC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2C5E2.E3787BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi sgroup, i've been using my s750 with a zip drive for some time and have finally = got fed up with all the problems my old drive causes. a guy in UK is = selling a 1u rack chassis with a 135 MB syquest drive + cdrom for about = 220 quid. i tend to think the unit is slightly overpriced but that's = only my intuition as i know nothing about second hand prices of such = gear. i realise that you can get small scsi disks dirt cheap on ebay, = but what i'm really interested in is the chassis which would make my = life easier especially while using the roland live [i use 4u rack cases = for my equipment, so a small chassis like that would be just perfect for = my rig]. i feel i should suggest the guy lower the price [which seems to be far = away from what one would call a bargain :)] any suggestions? what would be a fair asking price?=20 slaq ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2C5E2.E3787BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi sgroup,
 
i've been using my s750 with a zip = drive for=20 some time and have finally got fed up with all the problems my old drive = causes.=20 a guy in UK is selling a 1u rack chassis with a 135 MB syquest drive + = cdrom for=20 about 220 quid. i tend to think the unit is slightly overpriced but = that's only=20 my intuition as i know nothing about second hand prices of such gear. i = realise=20 that you can get small scsi disks dirt cheap on ebay, but what i'm = really=20 interested in is the chassis which would make my life easier especially = while=20 using the roland live [i use 4u rack cases for my equipment, so a small = chassis=20 like that would be just perfect for my rig].
 
i feel i should suggest the guy = lower the=20 price [which seems to be far away from what one would call a bargain=20 :)]
 
any suggestions? what would be a = fair asking=20 price?
 
slaq
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C2C5E2.E3787BC0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 16:49:30 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:49:21 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:49:10 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.43] (helo=wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18ddbP-0007nd-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:49:07 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.61] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Tue Jan 28 16:49:07 EST 2003 Message-ID: <5906819.1043790547697.JavaMail.nobody@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:50:05 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I got very good results using the Pro series horn samples from the S-550 library. I don't remember which disks they are; for some reason I'm thinking they're in the 6 or 7 series of disks. There's one with excellent trumpets and another with very good saxes - I put them together to make a decent horn section on a few tracks. Maybe I'll burn an mp3 and see if I can put it up on our archives. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 17:03:21 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:03:10 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:03:07 -0500 Received: from [80.46.159.162] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ddnE-000Fn4-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:01:21 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup a questio scsii driive + 1u chassis Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:04:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <000c01c2c5da$82b77a00$058b573e@n2f3s7> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >a guy in UK is selling a 1u rack chassis with a >135 MB syquest drive + cdrom for about 220 quid. >any suggestions? what would be a fair asking price? At 150 uk pounds it would still be far from a bargain. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 17:14:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:14:12 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f38.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:14:09 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:14:02 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:14:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "Six Stringa" To: jsegovia@mindspring.com Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:14:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jan 2003 22:14:02.0724 (UTC) FILETIME=[9080EA40:01C2C71A] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks for the reply Jesse..I may have tried those last night (need to catalog my HD contents). I would appreciate hearing the .mp3 if you could upload. In the meantime, I'll experiment some more. >From: Jesse Segovia >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:50:05 -0500 > >I got very good results using the Pro series horn samples from the S-550 >library. I don't remember which disks they are; for some reason I'm >thinking they're in the 6 or 7 series of disks. There's one with excellent >trumpets and another with very good saxes - I put them together to make a >decent horn section on a few tracks. > >Maybe I'll burn an mp3 and see if I can put it up on our archives. > >Jesse > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 18:17:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:17:41 -0500 Received: from ravensgarage.com (askuse.ody.ca [216.240.7.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:17:30 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by [192.168.1.3] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 3.0.1); 28-Jan-2003 18:16:55 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:16:53 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup a questio scsii driive + 1u chassis From: Dr Raven To: S Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000c01c2c5da$82b77a00$058b573e@n2f3s7> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3126622613_128142" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3126622613_128142 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable On 1/27/03 3:02 AM, "slaq" wrote: > hi sgroup, > =20 > i've been using my s750 with a zip drive for some time and have finally g= ot > fed up with all the problems my old drive causes. a guy in UK is selling = a 1u > rack chassis with a 135 MB syquest drive + cdrom for about 220 quid. i te= nd to > think the unit is slightly overpriced but that's only my intuition as i k= now > nothing about second hand prices of such gear. i realise that you can get > small scsi disks dirt cheap on ebay, but what i'm really interested in is= the > chassis which would make my life easier especially while using the roland= live > [i use 4u rack cases for my equipment, so a small chassis like that would= be > just perfect for my rig]. > =20 > i feel i should suggest the guy lower the price [which seems to be far aw= ay > from what one would call a bargain :)] > =20 > any suggestions? what would be a fair asking price? > =20 > slaq >=20 This may or may not solve your problem, but I recently =B3modified=B2 my S-750 and installed a 100 MB zip drive where the floppy drive used to sit. It=B9s not as clean a mod as I had hoped, but in time I hope to refine things. Basically I removed the 1.44 MB floppy and replaced it with an internal 100 MB SCSI zip drive. The power connector for the floppy works fine with the Zip, but because the S-750 logic board does not have a SCSI connector soldered on to it I had to use a cable to go from the external SCSI connector on the back of the S-750 to the Zip drive=B9s 50 pin connector inside the S-750=B9s case. But nobody makes a simple cable like that so I ripped apart an old SCSI external hard drive case and took out the ribbon cable and 2 centronics connectors. I then cut one of the centronics connectors off of the ribbon cable to shorten the length. So now I had an adapter of sorts to go from the external connector to the internal zip drive. Here=B9s a cheesy diagram. Hope it makes some sense: CABLE CABLE ADAPTER ADAPTER 25 pin - > Centronics M - > Centronics F - > 50 pin ribbon S-750 INSIDE INSIDE ZIP 100 That=B9s the best I can do for now, I=B9ll see if I can come up with some pics shortly. Once I had the cable chain all put together I tried to find a way to route the cable into the case with as little alterations as possible (cut through the vents on the bottom plate for example) but there wasn=B9t a simple way. S= o I just put the cable under the lid and screwed it down (messy but the SCSI cable is pretty thick and this is *very* temporary). I also had to stuff th= e =B3adapter=B2 assembly underneath the zip drive once it was mounted on the two metal rails that used to hold the floppy drive to keep the inner cable part= s from flopping around and touching the logic board. I then inserted a zip disk with the system files on it into the zip drive and then fired up the S-750 and watched the LCD screen. The sampler started up, and for a moment it looked like it was all going to work but then it halted during the scan (looking for a bootable system disk). I surmised tha= t the S-750=B9s BIOS needed to =B3see=B2 the floppy disk during the bootup process as part of it=B9s POST routine so I hooked up the floppy to the floppy drive cable. I didn=B9t have a power cable for the floppy any more but I just neede= d the S-750 to see that the floppy was connected, so I powered the S-750 on again and this time it booted up completely. I tested the S-750 by loading = a few performances and everything worked fine. To deal with the floppy issue = I simply strapped the floppy to the back of the zip drive (again this is very temporary and a work in progress) with electrical tape and re-closed the metal lid again. I had to slide the floppy down a ways on the back of the zip, far enough so the lid would close. After a few hours of sampling, looping and editing it looks like this is a workable system. I=B9m now looking into the possibility of soldering a 50 pin connector to the logic board to see if the built-in SCSI circuit is usable. Seeing as how it is really an S-770 logic board inside the S-750 (it says s= o on the bottom of the logic board and other circuit boards) it should work, unless they also removed the SCSI controller circuits as well at which poin= t I may be out of luck. But if it works, I=B9ll then need to find a way to tell the POST test that the floppy is disabled or trick it into thinking it is there even though it won=B9t be. If that all works I may then be able to add = a SCSI hard drive as well. In the meantime I have an S-750 with an internal 100 MB zip drive neatly installed in the front and a funny curly-cue pig tail SCSI cable loop sticking out of the bottom :) But it all works. Andy Skuse --=20 Raven's Garage - www.ravensgarage.com --B_3126622613_128142 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup a questio scsii driive + 1u chassis On 1/27/03 3:02 AM, "slaq" <slaveq@o2.pl&= gt; wrote:

hi sgroup,

i've been using my s750 with a zip drive for some time and h= ave finally got fed up with all the problems my old drive causes. a guy in U= K is selling a 1u rack chassis with a 135 MB syquest drive + cdrom for about= 220 quid. i tend to think the unit is slightly overpriced but that's only m= y intuition as i know nothing about second hand prices of such gear. i reali= se that you can get small scsi disks dirt cheap on ebay, but what i'm really= interested in is the chassis which would make my life easier especially whi= le using the roland live [i use 4u rack cases for my equipment, so a small c= hassis like that would be just perfect for my rig].

i feel i should suggest the guy lower the price [which seems= to be far away from what one would call a bargain :)]

any suggestions? what would be a fair asking price?

slaq

This may or may not solve your pro= blem, but I recently “modified” my S-750 and installed a 100 MB = zip drive where the floppy drive used to sit. It’s not as clean a mod = as I had hoped, but in time I hope to refine things.

Basically I removed the 1.44 MB floppy and replaced it with an internal 100= MB SCSI zip drive. The power connector for the floppy works fine with the Z= ip, but because the S-750 logic board does not have a SCSI connector soldere= d on to it I had to use a cable to go from the external SCSI connector on th= e back of the S-750 to the Zip drive’s 50 pin connector inside the S-7= 50’s case. But nobody makes a simple cable like that so I ripped apart= an old SCSI external hard drive case and took out the ribbon cable and 2 ce= ntronics connectors. I then cut one of the centronics connectors off of the = ribbon cable to shorten the length. So now I had an adapter of sorts to go f= rom the external connector to the internal zip drive. Here’s a cheesy = diagram. Hope it makes some sense:

CABLE           CABLE &nb= sp;            &= nbsp; ADAPTER          &nb= sp;   ADAPTER
25 pin - >  Centronics M  - >  Centronics F - > 50 = pin ribbon
S-750           INSIDE &n= bsp;            =  INSIDE           &nb= sp; ZIP 100


That’s the best I can do for now, I’ll see if I can come up wit= h some pics shortly.

Once I had the cable chain all put together I tried to find a way to route = the cable into the case with as little alterations as possible (cut through = the vents on the bottom plate for example) but there wasn’t a simple w= ay. So I just put the cable under the lid and screwed it down (messy but the= SCSI cable is pretty thick and this is *very* temporary). I also had to stu= ff the “adapter” assembly underneath the zip drive once it was m= ounted on the two metal rails that used to hold the floppy drive to keep the= inner cable parts from flopping around and touching the logic board.

I then inserted a zip disk with the system files on it into the zip drive a= nd then fired up the S-750 and watched the LCD screen. The sampler started u= p, and for a moment it looked like it was all going to work but then it halt= ed during the scan (looking for a bootable system disk). I surmised that the= S-750’s BIOS needed to “see” the floppy disk during the b= ootup process as part of it’s POST routine so I hooked up the floppy t= o the floppy drive cable. I didn’t have a power cable for the floppy a= ny more but I just needed the S-750 to see that the floppy was connected, so= I powered the S-750 on again and this time it booted up completely. I teste= d the S-750 by loading a few performances and everything worked fine. To dea= l with the floppy issue I simply strapped the floppy to the back of the zip = drive (again this is very temporary and a work in progress) with elec= trical tape and re-closed the metal lid again. I had to slide the floppy dow= n a ways on the back of the zip, far enough so the lid would close.

After a few hours of sampling, looping and editing it looks like this is a = workable system. I’m now looking into the possibility of soldering a 5= 0 pin connector to the logic board to see if the built-in SCSI circuit is us= able. Seeing as how it is really an S-770 logic board inside the S-750 (it s= ays so on the bottom of the logic board and other circuit boards) it should = work, unless they also removed the SCSI controller circuits as well at which= point I may be out of luck. But if it works, I’ll then need to find a= way to tell the POST test that the floppy is disabled or trick it into thin= king it is there even though it won’t be. If that all works I may then= be able to add a SCSI hard drive as well. In the meantime I have an S-750 w= ith an internal 100 MB zip drive neatly installed in the front and a funny c= urly-cue pig tail SCSI cable loop sticking out of the bottom :) But it all w= orks.





Andy Skuse
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--B_3126622613_128142-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 19:11:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:10:53 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl (net015s.hetnet.nl [194.151.104.155]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:10:50 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.225.148]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 01:13:03 +0100 Message-ID: <00aa01c2c72b$28a4b800$fe9c4bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:52:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Interesting subject ! This was originally my idea too, the S-550 and the floppy-library for some bread&butter horns ready to go- but haven't really played around with it yet. Which disks did you finally end up using ? (I guess they're from the RSB-550X & RSB-50X libraries, right ?) That MP3 would be, ehh, swell ! Thanks, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Six Stringa To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:14 PM Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 > Thanks for the reply Jesse..I may have tried those last night (need to > catalog my HD contents). I would appreciate hearing the .mp3 if you could > upload. In the meantime, I'll experiment some more. > > >From: Jesse Segovia > >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > >Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 > >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:50:05 -0500 > > > >I got very good results using the Pro series horn samples from the S-550 > >library. I don't remember which disks they are; for some reason I'm > >thinking they're in the 6 or 7 series of disks. There's one with excellent > >trumpets and another with very good saxes - I put them together to make a > >decent horn section on a few tracks. > > > >Maybe I'll burn an mp3 and see if I can put it up on our archives. > > > >Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 21:00:00 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:59:51 -0500 Received: from pop018.verizon.net (pop018pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.212]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 20:59:47 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.235.12]) by pop018.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20030129015941.DWKS1680.pop018.verizon.net@rickearn> for ; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:59:41 -0600 Message-ID: <004001c2c753$4dddf500$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: Subject: sgroup Linn Drum Samples Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:00:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C2C710.3DA31FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop018.verizon.net from [151.201.235.12] at Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:59:41 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C2C710.3DA31FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've searched the net for years looking for good Linn Drum samples - the = type used by Prince, The Time, Shalamar, etc. Just wondering if anyone = out there knows of a good resource off-hand. I've even considered = picking up one of these units myself just to sample the sounds - seems = like no synth manufacturers ever included these types of drum sounds in = their lineups. Anyone have any suggestions? BTW, I finally won a bid for an S-550 (to replace my dead S-50), which = is shipping...yeah!!! =20 Rick ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C2C710.3DA31FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've searched the net for years looking = for good=20 Linn Drum samples - the type used by Prince, The Time, Shalamar, = etc.  Just=20 wondering if anyone out there knows of a good resource off-hand.  = I've even=20 considered picking up one of these units myself just to sample the = sounds -=20 seems like no synth manufacturers ever included these types of drum = sounds in=20 their lineups.  Anyone have any suggestions?
 
BTW, I finally won a bid for an S-550 = (to replace=20 my dead S-50), which is shipping...yeah!!! 
 
 
Rick
------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C2C710.3DA31FA0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 21:43:47 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:43:45 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:43:24 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.43] (helo=wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18diCA-0002KQ-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:43:22 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.61] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Tue Jan 28 21:43:22 EST 2003 Message-ID: <624855.1043808202384.JavaMail.nobody@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:44:31 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I looked at the listing of S-550 samples in the sgroup archive and the best I can come up with is the following: DISK #8: Alto Sax RSB_5503_8.ZIP DISK #5: Trumpet & Trombone RSB_5503_5.ZIP I'll try and make sure when I have a chance but I'm pretty sure this is it. As with anything else, I think the key is in how you use it. I've heard some pretty bad horn samples sound very good because they're played tastefully, with volume swells and lines real horn players would play. I've also heard good horn samples sound awful because it was so ummusical. I have the song I'm thinking of in my digital audio workstation so all I need to do is master it, burn it to a CD and then rip it to an mp3. I'll try and do it this weekend. John, is it OK to upload this to the list? It's a song file that strongly features S-550 samples (as well as other Roland equipment like the D-110). Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 21:43:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:43:45 -0500 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:43:29 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.43] (helo=wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18diCE-0003w0-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:43:26 -0500 Received: from [192.168.167.61] by EarthlinkWAM via HTTP; Tue Jan 28 21:43:25 EST 2003 Message-ID: <5466201.1043808205772.JavaMail.nobody@wamui05.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:44:36 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Web Access Mail version 3.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I looked at the listing of S-550 samples in the sgroup archive and the best I can come up with is the following: DISK #8: Alto Sax RSB_5503_8.ZIP DISK #5: Trumpet & Trombone RSB_5503_5.ZIP I'll try and make sure when I have a chance but I'm pretty sure this is it. As with anything else, I think the key is in how you use it. I've heard some pretty bad horn samples sound very good because they're played tastefully, with volume swells and lines real horn players would play. I've also heard good horn samples sound awful because it was so ummusical. I have the song I'm thinking of in my digital audio workstation so all I need to do is master it, burn it to a CD and then rip it to an mp3. I'll try and do it this weekend. John, is it OK to upload this to the list? It's a song file that strongly features S-550 samples (as well as other Roland equipment like the D-110). Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 21:49:20 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:49:15 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:49:05 -0500 Received: from [80.46.164.103] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18diFt-0009o6-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 02:47:13 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: sgroup Roland Africa sample cd and Spectrasonics Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:50:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Does anybody know if the Roland LCDP11-Africa is the same sample cd as Heart of Africa vol.1 by Spectrasonics? Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 21:58:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:58:43 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f27.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:58:36 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:58:33 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.117 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 02:58:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.117] From: "Six Stringa" To: richard.earnhardt@verizon.net, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:58:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2003 02:58:33.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F952AA0:01C2C742] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Rick, The Yamaha TX16W site has Linn Drum samples, if memory serves me. I have a TX-16W as my backup sampler. I convert the samples to S-550 samples pretty easily. Here's the link: ftp://ftp.t0.or.at/pub/sound/tx16w/samples.yamaha/DRUMS/linndrum/ I use the Mac platform for music/MIDI. I believe programs like AWave, SOX and Cool Edit on the PC side should help do the conversion... peace, Doug >From: "Richard Earnhardt" >To: >Subject: sgroup Linn Drum Samples >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:00:08 -0500 > >I've searched the net for years looking for good Linn Drum samples - the >type used by Prince, The Time, Shalamar, etc. Just wondering if anyone out >there knows of a good resource off-hand. I've even considered picking up >one of these units myself just to sample the sounds - seems like no synth >manufacturers ever included these types of drum sounds in their lineups. >Anyone have any suggestions? > >BTW, I finally won a bid for an S-550 (to replace my dead S-50), which is >shipping...yeah!!! > > >Rick _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 22:02:15 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:02:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f238.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.238]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2827>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:02:03 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 19:01:56 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.117 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 03:01:56 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.117] From: "Six Stringa" To: jsegovia@mindspring.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:01:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2003 03:01:56.0706 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8996420:01C2C742] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks Jesse, I have both disks, and will try them out. Interesting you mentioned the *way* it is played (swells, etc). That is sort of what I was getting at originally - creating/modifying the sample such that when it is played on the keyboard, you achieve that effect, be it by the use of the mod wheel, aftertouch, or any combination thereof... Thanks again. >From: Jesse Segovia >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: Re: sgroup creating realistic horn samples - S550 >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:44:31 -0500 > >I looked at the listing of S-550 samples in the sgroup archive and the best >I can come up with is the following: > >DISK #8: Alto Sax RSB_5503_8.ZIP >DISK #5: Trumpet & Trombone RSB_5503_5.ZIP > >I'll try and make sure when I have a chance but I'm pretty sure this is it. > >As with anything else, I think the key is in how you use it. I've heard >some pretty bad horn samples sound very good because they're played >tastefully, with volume swells and lines real horn players would play. >I've also heard good horn samples sound awful because it was so ummusical. > >I have the song I'm thinking of in my digital audio workstation so all I >need to do is master it, burn it to a CD and then rip it to an mp3. I'll >try and do it this weekend. > >John, is it OK to upload this to the list? It's a song file that strongly >features S-550 samples (as well as other Roland equipment like the D-110). > >Jesse > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 28 23:41:47 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:41:38 -0500 Received: from ravensgarage.com (askuse.ody.ca [216.240.7.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2826>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:41:35 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by [192.168.1.3] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 3.0.1); 28-Jan-2003 23:41:21 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:41:18 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples From: Dr Raven To: S Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> From: "Richard Earnhardt" >> To: >> Subject: sgroup Linn Drum Samples >> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:00:08 -0500 >> BTW, I finally won a bid for an S-550 (to replace my dead S-50), which is >> shipping...yeah!!! Doh, wish I'd known you were looking :) I have a fully working S-50 that I am looking to sell with owner's and service manuals (photocopies), along with a pretty fair collection of disks. $125.00 US + S&H (to U.S. or Canada only) would take it if anyone else is interested. Andy Skuse -- Raven's Garage - www.ravensgarage.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 00:23:08 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:23:01 -0500 Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:22:54 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.235.12]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030129052250.VOEC3094.out003.verizon.net@rickearn>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:22:50 -0600 Message-ID: <006101c2c76f$aca09ea0$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: "Six Stringa" Cc: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 03:21:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [151.201.235.12] at Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:22:46 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks Doug, Seems the conversion would take a lil more than I was up for tonight :)...I did manage to find a set of 13 linndrum samples in .wav format. I'm a little disappointed as I was hoping I would get more of the "prince" sound...now I see that he used extensive efx and tweaks with the linndrum. I've decided to look through as much prince music as I can for clean samples of the specific drum sounds I'm looking for (I have an extensive prince music collection). If anyone is interested, I'll keep you posted on my work. Thanks for the help! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Six Stringa" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > Rick, > The Yamaha TX16W site has Linn Drum samples, if memory serves me. I have a > TX-16W as my backup sampler. I convert the samples to S-550 samples pretty > easily. Here's the link: > > ftp://ftp.t0.or.at/pub/sound/tx16w/samples.yamaha/DRUMS/linndrum/ > > I use the Mac platform for music/MIDI. I believe programs like AWave, SOX > and Cool Edit on the PC side should help do the conversion... > > peace, > Doug > > > >From: "Richard Earnhardt" > >To: > >Subject: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:00:08 -0500 > > > >I've searched the net for years looking for good Linn Drum samples - the > >type used by Prince, The Time, Shalamar, etc. Just wondering if anyone out > >there knows of a good resource off-hand. I've even considered picking up > >one of these units myself just to sample the sounds - seems like no synth > >manufacturers ever included these types of drum sounds in their lineups. > >Anyone have any suggestions? > > > >BTW, I finally won a bid for an S-550 (to replace my dead S-50), which is > >shipping...yeah!!! > > > > > >Rick > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 00:23:19 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:23:11 -0500 Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:23:01 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.235.12]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030129052257.VOEO3094.out003.verizon.net@rickearn>; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:22:57 -0600 Message-ID: <006201c2c76f$b05d5880$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: "Dr Raven" Cc: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 03:23:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [151.201.235.12] at Tue, 28 Jan 2003 23:22:46 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I wish I'd have known as well, I definately would have taken you up on that. If the money turns up anytime soon, I might even still be interested. I'll let you know! Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr Raven" To: "S Group" Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:41 PM Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > >> From: "Richard Earnhardt" > >> To: > >> Subject: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > >> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:00:08 -0500 > > > > >> BTW, I finally won a bid for an S-550 (to replace my dead S-50), which is > >> shipping...yeah!!! > > Doh, wish I'd known you were looking :) I have a fully working S-50 that I > am looking to sell with owner's and service manuals (photocopies), along > with a pretty fair collection of disks. $125.00 US + S&H (to U.S. or Canada > only) would take it if anyone else is interested. > > > > > Andy Skuse > -- > Raven's Garage - www.ravensgarage.com > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 08:28:55 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:28:46 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f49.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.49]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:28:41 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:28:36 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.224 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:28:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.224] From: "Six Stringa" To: richard.earnhardt@verizon.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:28:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2003 13:28:36.0480 (UTC) FILETIME=[53CF9800:01C2C79A] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk No prob Rick.... Those were the days of electronic drums, Minneapolis style...I love the drumtracks he did in Anotherloverholenyohead, Rasberry Beret, Pop Life, and a few others....though not the Linn drum, I'm especially fond of the drum track in Housequake. You may want to check out some of his spinoff groups for samples too (The Time, Mazarati, etc) Let us know how u make out... D >From: "Richard Earnhardt" >To: "Six Stringa" >CC: >Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:21:55 -0800 > >Thanks Doug, > > Seems the conversion would take a lil more than I was up for tonight >:)...I did manage to find a set of 13 linndrum samples in .wav format. I'm >a little disappointed as I was hoping I would get more of the "prince" >sound...now I see that he used extensive efx and tweaks with the linndrum. >I've decided to look through as much prince music as I can for clean >samples >of the specific drum sounds I'm looking for (I have an extensive prince >music collection). If anyone is interested, I'll keep you posted on my >work. > >Thanks for the help! > >Rick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Six Stringa" >To: ; >Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:58 PM >Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > > > > Rick, > > The Yamaha TX16W site has Linn Drum samples, if memory serves me. I have >a > > TX-16W as my backup sampler. I convert the samples to S-550 samples >pretty > > easily. Here's the link: > > > > ftp://ftp.t0.or.at/pub/sound/tx16w/samples.yamaha/DRUMS/linndrum/ > > > > I use the Mac platform for music/MIDI. I believe programs like AWave, >SOX > > and Cool Edit on the PC side should help do the conversion... > > > > peace, > > Doug > > > > > > >From: "Richard Earnhardt" > > >To: > > >Subject: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > > >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:00:08 -0500 > > > > > >I've searched the net for years looking for good Linn Drum samples - >the > > >type used by Prince, The Time, Shalamar, etc. Just wondering if anyone >out > > >there knows of a good resource off-hand. I've even considered picking >up > > >one of these units myself just to sample the sounds - seems like no >synth > > >manufacturers ever included these types of drum sounds in their >lineups. > > >Anyone have any suggestions? > > > > > >BTW, I finally won a bid for an S-550 (to replace my dead S-50), which >is > > >shipping...yeah!!! > > > > > > > > >Rick > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 08:41:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:41:23 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f223.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.223]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:41:10 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:41:03 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.224 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:41:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.224] From: "Six Stringa" To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Re: [RolandSamplers] Re: Creating realistic horn sections - S550 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:41:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2003 13:41:03.0476 (UTC) FILETIME=[110E2340:01C2C79C] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Max, YES! Now we're talking. This is the gist of what I was getting at in my original question. I definitely appreciate your reply (as well as the others). The horn arrangements I mostly write fall your categories - Seawind and Chicago. Thanks for the book refs...I like Thad Jones. As for pulling samples from different modules/samplers, that's along the lines of what I began to think of doing. I also have a Yamaha TX16W in my studio...complete with Typhoon, the Soundsource Sample Collection, every sample from the TX16W Users List, and then some...so what I'll do is begin to incorporate both samplers in the mix and see what I come up with. The other point that you mentioned is also what I wanted to articulate: the use of pitch bend, aftertouch, sample altering, etc...to emulate the reality as best as possible. I'm a guitarist and just beginning to explore guitar synthesis, so I know the principles will apply greatly there. Again thanks for the reply, hope the post wasn't too long... Doug >From: "mzape " >Reply-To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com >To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [RolandSamplers] Re: Creating realistic horn sections - S550 >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:38:50 -0000 > > First off, what kind of horn section? Big Band [4-5 trumpets; 4- >5 bones; 2 alto, 2 tenor, bari saxes]? Tower of Power [2 trumpets, 2 >tenors, bari sax, opt. bone]? Seawind [2 trumpets, 2 saxes, bone]? >Chicago [trumpet, sax, bone]? Best way to learn how to do realistic >horn sections is to transcribe stuff you dig. A great book to have >and learn from is "Inside the Score" by Ray Wright. This book >explores arrangements by Sammy Nestico [Basie Big Band], Bob >Brookmeyer, and Thad Jones. > > Now on the sampler side; the real trick is to have multiple >samples of things. like different trumpets, saxes, bones and DETUNE >some of them---not too out, but enough to play around with the >phasing of the instruments. I use this same technique with vocal >samples as well. Also, different samplers have different qualities >so use them. Some samplers will let you play around with the >formants of a sound as well as pitch. In my studio I use a S-50, S- >550, 2 MKS-100's, a Yamaha TX-16W, and a TS-12 [which uses EPS +ASR >samples]. my brass sounds will come from the Rolands and my string >and sax sounds come from the Ensoniq and Yamaha. Some times I'll mix >in some synth stuff from my kurzweil K2VX which also has some nice >samples. My point is: to create the illusion of multiple players, you >need multiple samples of instruments. I can always tell a MIDI horn >section by hearing one sample used for multiple parts; not so >realistic. Also, learn the characteristics of the instruments you >wish to emulate and figure out how to implement them into your >performance; i.e. pitch bend, mod wheel, aftertouch. If possible >learn the instruments themselves [I marched bone in high school, but >played sax + flute in the jazz band, played bassoon in wind ensemble >and my first instrument was violin at age 8---keyboards happened much >later]; by learning how to play an instrument, you'll gain an >understanding of what you're trying to imitate with your sampler. >hope this answers your query, > >Max > >--- In RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com, "newtonium62 " > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > One thing I've always wanted to do is create realistic horn using >my > > S-550. I'm currently writing a song that I want a horn section in, > > but the S-550 library samples don't seem to be cutting it. I have >the > > complete Roland S-550 library as well as the S-50 and S-330 >library. > > What I'd like to learn is a basic procedure for creating good horn > > section that sound as realistic as could be, basically trumpet, >tenor > > sax, alto sax and trombone at the most. Stuff like an occassional > > horn blast and some nice crescendos. I've been basically using my > > stock samples as is, and those I create from other samples have >been > > pretty simple. It's obviously that an old sampler like the S-550 >has > > vast sample editing/creating features, so...any tips, resources or > > pointers would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to avoid the >route > > (at least at the moment) of purchasing sample CDs, I'd like to >learn > > my machine's capabilities first. > > > > Thanks in advance... > > Doug > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 08:48:36 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:48:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f93.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.93]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:48:14 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:48:06 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.224 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:48:06 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.224] From: "Six Stringa" To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup PS: (was: Re: [RolandSamplers] Re: Creating realistic horn sections - S550) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:48:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2003 13:48:06.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D41BC80:01C2C79D] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Forgot to mention that what really made Max's post on point was that I've been in the studio recording guitar tracks for a friend's CD. The songs he's written have such realistic horn parts (nice hits, swells, etc) that I've asked him a few times how he achieved them. His answer was using samples from the Ensosniq EPS-16 and another Roland board or two (he can't recall which...), they sound nice...this is what led me on the hunt >From: "mzape " >Reply-To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com >To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [RolandSamplers] Re: Creating realistic horn sections - S550 >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:38:50 -0000 > > First off, what kind of horn section? Big Band [4-5 trumpets; 4- >5 bones; 2 alto, 2 tenor, bari saxes]? Tower of Power [2 trumpets, 2 >tenors, bari sax, opt. bone]? Seawind [2 trumpets, 2 saxes, bone]? >Chicago [trumpet, sax, bone]? Best way to learn how to do realistic >horn sections is to transcribe stuff you dig. A great book to have >and learn from is "Inside the Score" by Ray Wright. This book >explores arrangements by Sammy Nestico [Basie Big Band], Bob >Brookmeyer, and Thad Jones. > > Now on the sampler side; the real trick is to have multiple >samples of things. like different trumpets, saxes, bones and DETUNE >some of them---not too out, but enough to play around with the >phasing of the instruments. I use this same technique with vocal >samples as well. Also, different samplers have different qualities >so use them. Some samplers will let you play around with the >formants of a sound as well as pitch. In my studio I use a S-50, S- >550, 2 MKS-100's, a Yamaha TX-16W, and a TS-12 [which uses EPS +ASR >samples]. my brass sounds will come from the Rolands and my string >and sax sounds come from the Ensoniq and Yamaha. Some times I'll mix >in some synth stuff from my kurzweil K2VX which also has some nice >samples. My point is: to create the illusion of multiple players, you >need multiple samples of instruments. I can always tell a MIDI horn >section by hearing one sample used for multiple parts; not so >realistic. Also, learn the characteristics of the instruments you >wish to emulate and figure out how to implement them into your >performance; i.e. pitch bend, mod wheel, aftertouch. If possible >learn the instruments themselves [I marched bone in high school, but >played sax + flute in the jazz band, played bassoon in wind ensemble >and my first instrument was violin at age 8---keyboards happened much >later]; by learning how to play an instrument, you'll gain an >understanding of what you're trying to imitate with your sampler. >hope this answers your query, > >Max > >--- In RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com, "newtonium62 " > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > One thing I've always wanted to do is create realistic horn using >my > > S-550. I'm currently writing a song that I want a horn section in, > > but the S-550 library samples don't seem to be cutting it. I have >the > > complete Roland S-550 library as well as the S-50 and S-330 >library. > > What I'd like to learn is a basic procedure for creating good horn > > section that sound as realistic as could be, basically trumpet, >tenor > > sax, alto sax and trombone at the most. Stuff like an occassional > > horn blast and some nice crescendos. I've been basically using my > > stock samples as is, and those I create from other samples have >been > > pretty simple. It's obviously that an old sampler like the S-550 >has > > vast sample editing/creating features, so...any tips, resources or > > pointers would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to avoid the >route > > (at least at the moment) of purchasing sample CDs, I'd like to >learn > > my machine's capabilities first. > > > > Thanks in advance... > > Doug > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 10:34:23 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:34:13 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:34:07 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:33:13 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C15FE@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Linn Drum Samples Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:32:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I though Prince used the Sequential Drumtraks? >>a little disappointed as I was hoping I would get more of the "prince" >>sound...now I see that he used extensive efx and tweaks with >the linndrum. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 10:37:03 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:36:53 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f34.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.34]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:36:50 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:36:48 -0800 Received: from 128.183.85.78 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:36:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.183.85.78] From: "Six Stringa" To: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Linn Drum Samples Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:36:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2003 15:36:48.0187 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C6CF0B0:01C2C7AC] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk He did use that also... >From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: RE: sgroup Linn Drum Samples >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:32:59 -0500 > >I though Prince used the Sequential Drumtraks? > > >>a little disappointed as I was hoping I would get more of the "prince" > >>sound...now I see that he used extensive efx and tweaks with > >the linndrum. > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 10:38:07 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:37:57 -0500 Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:37:54 -0500 Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) id ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:37:13 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1600@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup PS: (was: Re: [RolandSamplers] Re: Creating realistic horn sections - S550) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:37:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Some samplers will let you play around with the >formants of a sound I've seen the term formant but don't know what it is exactly. Anyone care to provide a brief definition? Does it refer to harmonic information? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 10:58:26 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:58:19 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f241.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.241]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:58:04 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:58:01 -0800 Received: from 128.183.85.78 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:58:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.183.85.78] From: "Six Stringa" To: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup PS: (was: Re: [RolandSamplers] Re: Creating realistic horn sections - S550) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:58:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2003 15:58:01.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[3333C430:01C2C7AF] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In a way, yes. From SOS: FORMANT: Frequency component or resonance of an instrument or voice sound that doesn't change with the pitch of the note being played or sung. For example, the body resonance of an acoustic guitar remains constant, regardless of the note being played. >From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: RE: sgroup PS: (was: Re: [RolandSamplers] Re: Creating realistic >horn sections - S550) >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:37:06 -0500 > > >Some samplers will let you play around with the > >formants of a sound > >I've seen the term formant but don't know what it is exactly. Anyone care >to >provide a brief definition? > >Does it refer to harmonic information? > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 11:02:00 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:01:52 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:01:49 -0500 Received: from [80.46.164.103] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18dulD-000DMA-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:08:23 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup PS: (was: Re: [RolandSamplers] Re: Creating realistic horn sections - S550) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:03:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D060000000000034C1600@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I've seen the term formant but don't know what it is exactly. Anyone care to >provide a brief definition? Very briefly, all instruments have formant regions, defined by their shape and resonant aspects. Same for the human voice which varies according to nasal, oral and pharyngeal cavities. Those formants is what enables us to form vowel and consonant sounds using our natural pitch from bass to soprano. For electronic instruments, formants applied to sounds will synthesize human speech, vowels in particular (Vocoders). In other words, you'll be able to get a sound ah, oh, etc using core sine, saw, etc. One recent example is the EVOC20 plug for Logic which has formant filters. The Mac used formant synthesis to bring Fred to the masses in the early 90s. If you want the full explanation on formants, any book on the voice of opera singers will explain all this, and more in relation to music. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 12:28:42 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:28:33 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm00803785ed49.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.192.1.184]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:28:19 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0THSEU06463 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:28:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm00803785ed49.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.192.1.184]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:00:12 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0TH07804636; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:00:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:00:07 -0500 Message-Id: <200301291700.h0TH07804636@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: mendofriul@hotmail.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Re: W30 editor and tools (Freeware) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | Dear John: | | I have attached some tools for edit the Roland | W30 image disks (on Windows). | | If you wish to upload this file into an adequate | directory of your server, you are welcomed to do. | | Enjoy!!! | Roberto Tuninetti (Mendoza, Argentina) Thanks Roberto - your files are now available at http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/utilities/w30_windows/ Didn't have a chance to fire it up myself, but sounds like a handy tool. Thanks! Cheers! John sgroup guy jsellens@generalconcepts.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 12:59:17 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:59:09 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:59:05 -0500 Received: from user-2inis3j.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.112.115] helo=hoffman) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18dwU9-00070N-00; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:58:54 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01c2c7c0$125984a0$737079a5@hoffman> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Six Stringa" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:58:17 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Also check out "Funky Ass Loops", by Prince's backup band. The title sounds a little bottom drawer, but the samples are superb. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Six Stringa To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:28 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > No prob Rick.... > Those were the days of electronic drums, Minneapolis style...I love the > drumtracks he did in Anotherloverholenyohead, Rasberry Beret, Pop Life, and > a few others....though not the Linn drum, I'm especially fond of the drum > track in Housequake. You may want to check out some of his spinoff groups > for samples too (The Time, Mazarati, etc) > > Let us know how u make out... > > D > > >From: "Richard Earnhardt" > >To: "Six Stringa" > >CC: > >Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:21:55 -0800 > > > >Thanks Doug, > > > > Seems the conversion would take a lil more than I was up for tonight > >:)...I did manage to find a set of 13 linndrum samples in .wav format. I'm > >a little disappointed as I was hoping I would get more of the "prince" > >sound...now I see that he used extensive efx and tweaks with the linndrum. > >I've decided to look through as much prince music as I can for clean > >samples > >of the specific drum sounds I'm looking for (I have an extensive prince > >music collection). If anyone is interested, I'll keep you posted on my > >work. > > > >Thanks for the help! > > > >Rick > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Six Stringa" > >To: ; > >Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:58 PM > >Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > > > > > > > Rick, > > > The Yamaha TX16W site has Linn Drum samples, if memory serves me. I have > >a > > > TX-16W as my backup sampler. I convert the samples to S-550 samples > >pretty > > > easily. Here's the link: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.t0.or.at/pub/sound/tx16w/samples.yamaha/DRUMS/linndrum/ > > > > > > I use the Mac platform for music/MIDI. I believe programs like AWave, > >SOX > > > and Cool Edit on the PC side should help do the conversion... > > > > > > peace, > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > >From: "Richard Earnhardt" > > > >To: > > > >Subject: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > > > >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:00:08 -0500 > > > > > > > >I've searched the net for years looking for good Linn Drum samples - > >the > > > >type used by Prince, The Time, Shalamar, etc. Just wondering if anyone > >out > > > >there knows of a good resource off-hand. I've even considered picking > >up > > > >one of these units myself just to sample the sounds - seems like no > >synth > > > >manufacturers ever included these types of drum sounds in their > >lineups. > > > >Anyone have any suggestions? > > > > > > > >BTW, I finally won a bid for an S-550 (to replace my dead S-50), which > >is > > > >shipping...yeah!!! > > > > > > > > > > > >Rick > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > - > > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 13:23:39 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:23:32 -0500 Received: from pop016.verizon.net (pop016pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.173]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:23:17 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.236.45]) by pop016.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030129182314.FDXX20431.pop016.verizon.net@rickearn>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:23:14 -0600 Message-ID: <006c01c2c7dc$afeef1c0$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: "Randy Hoffman" Cc: References: <000c01c2c7c0$125984a0$737079a5@hoffman> Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:23:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop016.verizon.net from [151.201.236.45] at Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:23:14 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks Randy - I've seen alot of reviews on this CD, though it's a little pricey for me right now. Wish I could hear whether the same sounds are used, or if this is more a "live set" CD. Just to let everyone know, I've found a pretty good resource for several drum machine samples at http://machines.hyperreal.org/samples.html. I've archived them on my machine also. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Six Stringa" ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:58 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > Also check out "Funky Ass Loops", by Prince's backup band. The title sounds > a little bottom drawer, but the samples are superb. > > Randy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Six Stringa > To: > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:28 AM > Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > > > > No prob Rick.... > > Those were the days of electronic drums, Minneapolis style...I love the > > drumtracks he did in Anotherloverholenyohead, Rasberry Beret, Pop Life, > and > > a few others....though not the Linn drum, I'm especially fond of the drum > > track in Housequake. You may want to check out some of his spinoff groups > > for samples too (The Time, Mazarati, etc) > > > > Let us know how u make out... > > > > D > > > > >From: "Richard Earnhardt" > > >To: "Six Stringa" > > >CC: > > >Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > > >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:21:55 -0800 > > > > > >Thanks Doug, > > > > > > Seems the conversion would take a lil more than I was up for tonight > > >:)...I did manage to find a set of 13 linndrum samples in .wav format. > I'm > > >a little disappointed as I was hoping I would get more of the "prince" > > >sound...now I see that he used extensive efx and tweaks with the > linndrum. > > >I've decided to look through as much prince music as I can for clean > > >samples > > >of the specific drum sounds I'm looking for (I have an extensive prince > > >music collection). If anyone is interested, I'll keep you posted on my > > >work. > > > > > >Thanks for the help! > > > > > >Rick > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Six Stringa" > > >To: ; > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:58 PM > > >Subject: Re: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > > > > > > > > > > Rick, > > > > The Yamaha TX16W site has Linn Drum samples, if memory serves me. I > have > > >a > > > > TX-16W as my backup sampler. I convert the samples to S-550 samples > > >pretty > > > > easily. Here's the link: > > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.t0.or.at/pub/sound/tx16w/samples.yamaha/DRUMS/linndrum/ > > > > > > > > I use the Mac platform for music/MIDI. I believe programs like AWave, > > >SOX > > > > and Cool Edit on the PC side should help do the conversion... > > > > > > > > peace, > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Richard Earnhardt" > > > > >To: > > > > >Subject: sgroup Linn Drum Samples > > > > >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 00:00:08 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >I've searched the net for years looking for good Linn Drum samples - > > >the > > > > >type used by Prince, The Time, Shalamar, etc. Just wondering if > anyone > > >out > > > > >there knows of a good resource off-hand. I've even considered > picking > > >up > > > > >one of these units myself just to sample the sounds - seems like no > > >synth > > > > >manufacturers ever included these types of drum sounds in their > > >lineups. > > > > >Anyone have any suggestions? > > > > > > > > > >BTW, I finally won a bid for an S-550 (to replace my dead S-50), > which > > >is > > > > >shipping...yeah!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Rick > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 13:32:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:32:58 -0500 Received: from relay1.softcomca.com ([168.144.1.67]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:32:42 -0500 Received: from M2W047.mail2web.com ([168.144.251.153]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:32:36 -0500 Message-ID: <114780-220031329183236265@M2W047.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: al@alcue.com X-Originating-IP: 64.95.24.238 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "alcue@nycap.rr.com" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup digest? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:32:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2003 18:32:36.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[CBAE7240:01C2C7C4] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk SOrry to bother the list with this, I keep getting flummoxed by majordomo=2E= How can I get this list in daily digest form? I find the stream of individual messages inconvenient=2E Thanks, Al Q=2E NY -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 14:45:53 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:45:45 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:45:34 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id h0TJjT110659; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:45:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:45:29 -0500 Message-Id: <200301291945.h0TJjT110659@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: al@alcue.com Subject: Re: sgroup digest? Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | SOrry to bother the list with this, I keep getting flummoxed by majordomo. | | How can I get this list in daily digest form? I find the stream of | individual messages inconvenient. It's not available in digest form - sorry. John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 16:42:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:42:38 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.161]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:42:27 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.18e.15a6f4a2 (15877) for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from aol.com (mow-m02.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.130]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILINID74-0129164218; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:42:18 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:42:18 -0500 From: Myrios@aol.com To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Apple CD drive and s760 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <36272807.22DDBEE5.000517E3@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if Apple CD drives work with the s760? In particular, I'm looking at an Apple 600e... not sure if it's scsi 1 or 2... thanks, jt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 19:01:03 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:00:56 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:00:50 -0500 Received: from [80.46.164.103] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18e2Ep-000ArV-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:07:28 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Apple CD drive and s760 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:02:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <36272807.22DDBEE5.000517E3@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk They all do for SCSI. For audio listening, only the 150 and 300 will work, not even the PowerCD from the same area will. The 600 is scsi 1. Francois -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Myrios@aol.com Sent: 29 January 2003 21:42 To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Apple CD drive and s760 Does anyone know if Apple CD drives work with the s760? In particular, I'm looking at an Apple 600e... not sure if it's scsi 1 or 2... thanks, jt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 19:55:47 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:55:39 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl (net049s.hetnet.nl [194.151.104.184]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2473>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:55:28 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.241.112]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:34:02 +0100 Message-ID: <006301c2c7f7$79ecb240$70f14bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: <36272807.22DDBEE5.000517E3@aol.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Apple CD drive and s760 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:33:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk FWIW, I recently found an Apple 300e Plus. This one is indicated as SCSI-2 device, so likely the 600e is as well (just simple reasoning here, so please correct if other rules apply here). I didn't know there might be an issue when mixing SCSI-1 & -2 though. I mean, both my S-2000 & DPM-SP are indicated as -1 and my external drives (Zip & CD) are -2. Works OK, but please tell if there's something to pay attention to. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:42 PM Subject: sgroup Apple CD drive and s760 > Does anyone know if Apple CD drives work with the s760? > In particular, I'm looking at an Apple 600e... not sure if it's scsi 1 or 2... > > thanks, > jt > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 20:32:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:32:23 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:32:12 -0500 Received: from [80.46.167.64] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18e3Ym-000P1V-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:32:08 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Apple CD drive and s760 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:33:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <006301c2c7f7$79ecb240$70f14bd5@ptr> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I didn't know there might be an issue when mixing SCSI-1 & -2 though. None. Transfers slow down to scsi 1 level, that's all. With my S-760 I use a scsi-3 cd, scsi-2 hard drive connected to a scsi-1 Mac and it all works. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 29 22:51:02 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:50:57 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2472>; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:50:46 -0500 Received: from epu1 (29.new-york-41-42rs.ny.dial-access.att.net[12.88.96.29]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <200301300350361120046063e>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 03:50:37 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c2c812$2190cee0$1d60580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <36272807.22DDBEE5.000517E3@aol.com> Subject: sgroup Quantum Leap Guitars & Bass Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:46:10 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2C7E8.37FA8420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2C7E8.37FA8420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, So I got the call from B&H Photo and Video that my CD has arrived. You'd = better believe that I rushed two miles during my lunch break at work to = get the CD, and then rushed home after work to hear the multisamples on = the CD. As usual, I didn't dweleve into all of the "patches", so I = thought I'd give a preliminary review. Simply put, this CD is stunning. I'd definitely put it as a must-have. A = lot of sample CD gurus thought that Keyboard magazine was jumping the = gun when they said, "If you want to fool people into thinking you're a = guitarist, buy this CD". Let me be the first, if not the second to tell = you, they're right on the money. The CD, unlike most Roland formatted CDs, has patches contained as = performances. In other words, rather than loading in a single sound = through a patch as you'd do normally, you'd load a perfomance. I found = this to be a little inconvenient considering that this goes against the = Roland performance philosophy. This concept includes being able to = organize a peformace round various patches. In the case of the CD, you'd = have to load in the performance, and then move in patches to other parts = of the same performance on different channels. Does this make sense? = This is okay, but somewhat tedious. The serious gems on the CD are the acoustic guitars. I don't think I'd = short change anyone by saying that you'd never come across a keyboard = now (2003) that has better sounding replicas of acoustic guitars than = this CD (which debuted in 1997). The performance "Classic Nylon" and = "Steel String" bring to life almost all of the nuances of these = instruments. The steel string is a Yamaha guitar. The liner notes refers = to this performance as somewhat too noisy, but too good to have been = left from the CD. You can do bends, trills, pops, slides and normal = playing/strumming without touching the mod wheel, or using aftertouch. = Everything is velocity driven. Playing these sounds are so easy. The leads are great. Almost no patch is drowned in effects, which is = good as we can add our own. The one thing sadly missing from this soundset was a telecaster guitar! = How could any guitar collection that claims to represent all guitars, = new and vintage not have this! I initially went guitar CD hunting to = find patches of this type of guitar to compose my funk driven, late = 70s/early 80s driven tracks. Examples of this guitar would be the = "clean" guitar patches on the Roland JV/XP/XV series, the "Clean Funk = Strats" on the Roland SRJV80017 Country Collection Expansion Board. The = same guitar can be heard doing the octaves on Prince's "I wanna be your = lover" or the rhythm guitar in Gloria Estefan's "Get On Your Feet". So far, I must say that I'm extremely happy to have this CD in my sample = CD collection, but equally disappointed that I'd have to continue = searching the earth for a sample CD with a good variety of the guitars = that I've been searching for. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2C7E8.37FA8420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey = All,
 
So I got the call from B&H Photo = and Video that=20 my CD has arrived. You'd better believe that I rushed two miles during = my lunch=20 break at work to get the CD, and then rushed home after work to hear the = multisamples on the CD. As usual, I didn't dweleve into all of the = "patches", so=20 I thought I'd give a preliminary review.
 
Simply put, this CD is stunning. I'd = definitely put=20 it as a must-have. A lot of sample CD gurus thought that Keyboard = magazine was=20 jumping the gun when they said, "If you want to fool people into = thinking you're=20 a guitarist, buy this CD". Let me be the first, if not the second to = tell you,=20 they're right on the money.
 
The CD, unlike most Roland formatted = CDs, has=20 patches contained as performances. In other words, rather than loading = in a=20 single sound through a patch as you'd do normally, you'd load a = perfomance. I=20 found this to be a little inconvenient considering that this goes = against the=20 Roland performance philosophy. This concept includes being able to=20 organize a peformace round various patches. In the case of the CD, = you'd=20 have to load in the performance, and then move in patches to other parts = of the=20 same performance on different channels. Does this make sense? This is = okay, but=20 somewhat tedious.
 
The serious gems on the CD are the = acoustic=20 guitars. I don't think I'd short change anyone by saying that you'd = never come=20 across a keyboard now (2003) that has better sounding replicas of = acoustic=20 guitars than this CD (which debuted in 1997). The performance = "Classic=20 Nylon" and "Steel String" bring to life almost all of the nuances of = these=20 instruments. The steel string is a Yamaha guitar. The liner notes refers = to this=20 performance as somewhat too noisy, but too good to have been left from = the CD.=20 You can do bends, trills, pops, slides and normal playing/strumming = without=20 touching the mod wheel, or using aftertouch. Everything is velocity = driven.=20 Playing these sounds are so easy.
 
The leads are great. Almost no patch is = drowned in=20 effects, which is good as we can add our own.
 
The one thing sadly missing from this = soundset was=20 a telecaster guitar! How could any guitar collection that claims to = represent=20 all guitars, new and vintage not have this! I initially went guitar CD = hunting=20 to find patches of this type of guitar to compose my funk driven, late = 70s/early=20 80s driven tracks. Examples of this guitar would be the "clean" guitar = patches=20 on the Roland JV/XP/XV series, the "Clean Funk Strats" on the Roland = SRJV80017=20 Country Collection Expansion Board. The same guitar can be heard doing = the=20 octaves on Prince's "I wanna be your lover" or the rhythm guitar in = Gloria=20 Estefan's "Get On Your Feet".
 
So far, I must say that I'm extremely = happy to have=20 this CD in my sample CD collection, but equally disappointed that I'd = have to=20 continue searching the earth for a sample CD with a good variety of the = guitars=20 that I've been searching for.
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C2C7E8.37FA8420-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 07:00:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:00:51 -0500 Received: from pop017.verizon.net (pop017pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.210]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:00:40 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.232.158]) by pop017.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20030130120032.KWYY10203.pop017.verizon.net@rickearn> for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 06:00:32 -0600 Message-ID: <000f01c2c870$69cc8a60$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: Subject: sgroup Prince Samples Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:01:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C2C82D.588CC820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop017.verizon.net from [151.201.232.158] at Thu, 30 Jan 2003 06:00:32 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C2C82D.588CC820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you who may be interested, I have just finished my work on = the Prince samples I was talking about in an earlier thread. The zip = file is is 6.73 Mb and I will make it available if anyone wants it. = The LinnDrum samples were helpful, but I was looking to recreate the old = Prince sound (especially the sidesticks). This actually turned out = better than I thought it would. Following are the samples included: Volume in drive C:\ is WIN98 Directory of C:\WINDOWS.000\Desktop\Prince Samples\ 1999_loop.WAV=20 1999_sidestick.WAV=20 1999_snare.WAV=20 1999_snare_clap.WAV=20 anotherlover_kick1.WAV=20 anotherlover_sidestick.WAV=20 anotherlover_snare.WAV=20 beautiful_fill1.WAV=20 beautiful_fill2.WAV=20 beautiful_kick1.WAV=20 beautiful_sidestick1.WAV=20 dmsr_kick.WAV=20 dmsr_snare.WAV=20 doves_lowtom.WAV=20 doves_sidestick2.WAV=20 doves_sidestick3.WAV=20 doves_snare1.WAV=20 erotic_reverse.WAV=20 erotic_sidestick1.WAV=20 erotic_sidestick2withKICK.WAV=20 girlfriend_loop.WAV=20 housequake_kick.WAV=20 housequake_loop.WAV=20 housequake_snare.WAV=20 housequake_snare2.WAV=20 letspretend_clap_kick.WAV=20 letspretend_kick.WAV=20 letspretend_simmons.WAV=20 letspretend_snare1.WAV=20 mountains_loop.WAV=20 poplife_intro.WAV=20 poplife_snare.WAV=20 raspberry_kick1.WAV=20 raspberry_kick1_1.WAV=20 raspberry_kickdry.WAV=20 raspberry_loop.WAV=20 raspberry_sidestick.WAV=20 raspberry_snare1.WAV=20 raspberry_snare2.WAV=20 raspberry_tamb.WAV=20 scarlet_kick.WAV=20 scarlet_snare1.WAV=20 scarlet_snare2.WAV=20 shockadelica_cabasa.WAV=20 shockadelica_kick.WAV=20 shockadelica_kickdry.WAV=20 shockadelica_loop.WAV=20 sign_loop.WAV=20 sign_snare.WAV=20 vanity6_nastyloop.WAV=20 50 file(s) Total filesize (unzipped) 8349 KB - Rick ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C2C82D.588CC820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For those of you who may be interested, = I have=20 just finished my work on the Prince samples I was talking = about in an=20 earlier thread.  The zip file is  is 6.73 Mb and I will make = it=20 available if anyone wants it.  The LinnDrum samples were helpful, = but I was=20 looking to recreate the old Prince sound (especially the = sidesticks).  This=20 actually turned out better than I thought it would.
 
Following are the samples = included:
 
Volume in drive C:\ is = WIN98
Directory of = C:\WINDOWS.000\Desktop\Prince=20 Samples\
 
1999_loop.WAV =
1999_sidestick.WAV=20
1999_snare.WAV =
1999_snare_clap.WAV=20
anotherlover_kick1.WAV=20
anotherlover_sidestick.WAV=20
anotherlover_snare.WAV=20
beautiful_fill1.WAV=20
beautiful_fill2.WAV=20
beautiful_kick1.WAV=20
beautiful_sidestick1.WAV=20
dmsr_kick.WAV =
dmsr_snare.WAV =
doves_lowtom.WAV =
doves_sidestick2.WAV=20
doves_sidestick3.WAV=20
doves_snare1.WAV =
erotic_reverse.WAV=20
erotic_sidestick1.WAV=20
erotic_sidestick2withKICK.WAV=20
girlfriend_loop.WAV=20
housequake_kick.WAV=20
housequake_loop.WAV=20
housequake_snare.WAV=20
housequake_snare2.WAV=20
letspretend_clap_kick.WAV=20
letspretend_kick.WAV=20
letspretend_simmons.WAV=20
letspretend_snare1.WAV=20
mountains_loop.WAV=20
poplife_intro.WAV =
poplife_snare.WAV =
raspberry_kick1.WAV=20
raspberry_kick1_1.WAV=20
raspberry_kickdry.WAV=20
raspberry_loop.WAV=20
raspberry_sidestick.WAV=20
raspberry_snare1.WAV=20
raspberry_snare2.WAV=20
raspberry_tamb.WAV=20
scarlet_kick.WAV =
scarlet_snare1.WAV=20
scarlet_snare2.WAV=20
shockadelica_cabasa.WAV=20
shockadelica_kick.WAV=20
shockadelica_kickdry.WAV=20
shockadelica_loop.WAV=20
sign_loop.WAV =
sign_snare.WAV =
vanity6_nastyloop.WAV=20
 
50 file(s)
Total filesize (unzipped) 8349 = KB
 
 
- = Rick
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C2C82D.588CC820-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 07:58:18 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:58:09 -0500 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:58:02 -0500 Received: from [217.82.111.39] (helo=[192.168.1.10]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18eEGT-0000Nn-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:57:57 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:57:44 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Prince Samples From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: Richard Earnhardt , roland Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000f01c2c870$69cc8a60$641dfea9@rickearn> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3126779867_46877" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Diese Nachricht ist im MIME-Format. Da Ihr Mailreader dieses Format nicht unterstŸtzt, kšnnte diese Nachricht ganz oder teilweise unlesbar sein. --B_3126779867_46877 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit To make this archive available, would be SOOOO GREAT!!!!!!!! Regards, Niko > > For those of you who may be interested, I have just finished my work on the > Prince samples I was talking about in an earlier thread. The zip file is is > 6.73 Mb and I will make it available if anyone wants it. The LinnDrum samples > were helpful, but I was looking to recreate the old Prince sound (especially > the sidesticks). This actually turned out better than I thought it would. > > Following are the samples included: > > Volume in drive C:\ is WIN98 > Directory of C:\WINDOWS.000\Desktop\Prince Samples\ > > 1999_loop.WAV > 1999_sidestick.WAV > 1999_snare.WAV > 1999_snare_clap.WAV > anotherlover_kick1.WAV > anotherlover_sidestick.WAV > anotherlover_snare.WAV > beautiful_fill1.WAV > beautiful_fill2.WAV > beautiful_kick1.WAV > beautiful_sidestick1.WAV > dmsr_kick.WAV > dmsr_snare.WAV > doves_lowtom.WAV > doves_sidestick2.WAV > doves_sidestick3.WAV > doves_snare1.WAV > erotic_reverse.WAV > erotic_sidestick1.WAV > erotic_sidestick2withKICK.WAV > girlfriend_loop.WAV > housequake_kick.WAV > housequake_loop.WAV > housequake_snare.WAV > housequake_snare2.WAV > letspretend_clap_kick.WAV > letspretend_kick.WAV > letspretend_simmons.WAV > letspretend_snare1.WAV > mountains_loop.WAV > poplife_intro.WAV > poplife_snare.WAV > raspberry_kick1.WAV > raspberry_kick1_1.WAV > raspberry_kickdry.WAV > raspberry_loop.WAV > raspberry_sidestick.WAV > raspberry_snare1.WAV > raspberry_snare2.WAV > raspberry_tamb.WAV > scarlet_kick.WAV > scarlet_snare1.WAV > scarlet_snare2.WAV > shockadelica_cabasa.WAV > shockadelica_kick.WAV > shockadelica_kickdry.WAV > shockadelica_loop.WAV > sign_loop.WAV > sign_snare.WAV > vanity6_nastyloop.WAV > > 50 file(s) > Total filesize (unzipped) 8349 KB > > > - Rick > > > Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen --B_3126779867_46877 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup Prince Samples To make this archive available, would be = SOOOO GREAT!!!!!!!!

Regards, Niko


For those of you who may be interested, I have just finished my work on the= Prince samples I was talking about in an earlier thread.  The zip file= is  is 6.73 Mb and I will make it available if anyone wants it.  = The LinnDrum samples were helpful, but I was looking to recreate the old Pri= nce sound (especially the sidesticks).  This actually turned out better= than I thought it would.

Following are the samples included:

Volume in drive C:\ is WIN98
Directory of C:\WINDOWS.000\Desktop\Prince Samples\

1999_loop.WAV
1999_sidestick.WAV
1999_snare.WAV
1999_snare_clap.WAV
anotherlover_kick1.WAV
anotherlover_sidestick.WAV
anotherlover_snare.WAV
beautiful_fill1.WAV
beautiful_fill2.WAV
beautiful_kick1.WAV
beautiful_sidestick1.WAV
dmsr_kick.WAV
dmsr_snare.WAV
doves_lowtom.WAV
doves_sidestick2.WAV
doves_sidestick3.WAV
doves_snare1.WAV
erotic_reverse.WAV
erotic_sidestick1.WAV
erotic_sidestick2withKICK.WAV
girlfriend_loop.WAV
housequake_kick.WAV
housequake_loop.WAV
housequake_snare.WAV
housequake_snare2.WAV
letspretend_clap_kick.WAV
letspretend_kick.WAV
letspretend_simmons.WAV
letspretend_snare1.WAV
mountains_loop.WAV
poplife_intro.WAV
poplife_snare.WAV
raspberry_kick1.WAV
raspberry_kick1_1.WAV
raspberry_kickdry.WAV
raspberry_loop.WAV
raspberry_sidestick.WAV
raspberry_snare1.WAV
raspberry_snare2.WAV
raspberry_tamb.WAV
scarlet_kick.WAV
scarlet_snare1.WAV
scarlet_snare2.WAV
shockadelica_cabasa.WAV
shockadelica_kick.WAV
shockadelica_kickdry.WAV
shockadelica_loop.WAV
sign_loop.WAV
sign_snare.WAV
vanity6_nastyloop.WAV

50 file(s)
Total filesize (unzipped) 8349 KB

 
- Rick




Nikolaus Sieveking
nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen
<niko@loktownstudio.de>

--B_3126779867_46877-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 07:58:19 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:58:10 -0500 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:57:59 -0500 Received: from [217.82.111.39] (helo=[192.168.1.10]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.93 #1) id 18eEGS-0000Nn-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:57:56 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:57:44 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup digest? From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: John Sellens , roland Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200301291945.h0TJjT110659@gc0.generalconcepts.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > | SOrry to bother the list with this, I keep getting flummoxed by majordomo. > | > | How can I get this list in daily digest form? I find the stream of > | individual messages inconvenient. > > It's not available in digest form - sorry. > > John Would it be possible to make it available, since this list lives up, the daily stream is really getting a bit much... Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 09:13:20 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:13:15 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:12:59 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.196.89]) by mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.12 201-253-122-126-112-20020820) with SMTP id <20030130141255.RPWO4868.mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 14:12:55 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c2c869$11d83ae0$59c4580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Guitar & Bass Update Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:08:30 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C83F.28499140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C83F.28499140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, As my experience with this CD continues, Ill continue to give review = updates. Again, this could be useful for archival purposes.=20 Apparently, the telecaster is featured, but in a weird way that still = leaves me disappointed. Nick Phoenix (producer of all of the CDs in the = Quantum Leap series), refers to this as the "007 Guitar" - Obviously in = reference to the infamous guitar used in James Bond scores. Fair enough. = Now while the guitar is featured, Nick only sampled the strings from Low = E to middle C! How useful is this! This might as well have been a bass! = I don't understand why he didn't sample the entire range of this guitar = as he did with the other performances.=20 The guitar itself sounds great. While one could stretch the partials so = they cover more range on he keyboard, you get the same effect as if you = stretched any sample. In this case, the effect would be the chipmunk = sound in the higher register. Now, the S760 does include a time stretch = algorithm. Anyone know if this could be useful in making this patch, or = the partials in the patch cover more range, therefore extending the = sound's usefulness? Or, does someone else know of a great sample CD with = super good James Bond/Funk guitar patches? Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C83F.28499140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
As my experience with this CD = continues, Ill=20 continue to give review updates. Again, this could be useful for = archival=20 purposes.
 
Apparently, the telecaster is featured, = but in a=20 weird way that still leaves me disappointed. Nick Phoenix (producer of = all of=20 the CDs in the Quantum Leap series), refers to this as the "007 Guitar" = -=20 Obviously in reference to the infamous guitar used in James Bond scores. = Fair=20 enough. Now while the guitar is featured, Nick only sampled the strings = from Low=20 E to middle C! How useful is this! This might as well have been a bass! = I don't=20 understand why he didn't sample the entire range of this guitar as he = did with=20 the other performances.
 
The guitar itself sounds great. While = one could=20 stretch the partials so they cover more range on he keyboard, you get = the same=20 effect as if you stretched any sample. In this case, the effect would be = the=20 chipmunk sound in the higher register. Now, the S760 does include a = time=20 stretch algorithm. Anyone know if this could be useful in making this = patch, or=20 the partials in the patch cover more range, therefore extending the = sound's=20 usefulness? Or, does someone else know of a great sample CD with super = good=20 James Bond/Funk guitar patches?
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C83F.28499140-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 09:54:20 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:54:15 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:54:05 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:54:00 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:54:00 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup Prince Samples Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:53:59 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0D71@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Prince Samples Thread-Index: AcLIV0yQ0ICgfIJnStS7v+IMry7zSwAGG3Qg From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Richard Earnhardt" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 14:54:00.0356 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C4AC640:01C2C86F] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Here are also LinnDrum Samples and a lot of other drum samples. Move to the bottom of the page... http://www.amsaro.com/HTML_Service/d_Download.htm#BM_Download Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich (Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670) As of 1st of February there are new numbers: Phone: +43 (0)50 811 2265 Fax: +43 (0)-50 811 2209 eFax: +43 (0)50 811 992265 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 11:05:03 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:04:57 -0500 Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:04:46 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.cc.1798e6ff (16781); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:04:33 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:04:32 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac To: musos@icon.co.za, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Finally!!! I was able to create a 2.24 sys disk: first of all: Stuffit Expander does not correctly translate the 2.24.bin or hqx files that are on Francois' website. I had to open Stuffit Deluxe and then Translate as Bin 4.0. This finally gave me a readable DART file. (SMAC was never able to open any of the 2.24 files I have. Even the 1.4 megable said "wrong sample length) Then, I'm on a Mac G4 running System 9.0 with a USB floppy drive. I guess DART would not recognize this drive as it wants a "Superdrive"... not sure exactly what that means. So I just copied everything over to my older Mac Powerbook 180 with an internal floppy drive (which I guess is recognizable as a superdrive) and I had success!! Thanks to those who offered help on this! jeff In a message dated 1/26/03 1:13:54 PM, musos@icon.co.za writes: >>hi, >>I think I only got sys 2.0 with my new s760. >>is there a 2.24 Mac image online somewhere? I downloaded the file >>s760223.hqx and it does not expand properly > >Have you tried this link?: >http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/clouzeau/s760/files/S760OS224.bin > >I believe it's a DART image though it may work with Stuffit or Shrinkwrap > >Regards - Colin > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-za05.mx.aol.com (rly-za05.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.101]) >by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINZA53-0126161354; >Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:13:54 -0500 >Received: from hugin.uunet.ca (hugin.uunet.ca [209.167.141.2]) by rly-za05.mx.aol.com >(v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA510-0126161343; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 >16:13:43 -0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-3922>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:13:36 >-0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca (bulk_mailer v1.9); Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:13:32 >-0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:13:28 >-0500 >Received: from mercury.is.co.za ([196.4.160.222]) by hugin.uunet.ca with >ESMTP id <193715-3921>; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:13:12 -0500 >Received: from [196.33.246.164] (c9-rba-164.dial-up.net [196.33.246.164]) > by mercury.is.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B733B8C66 > for ; Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:12:55 +0200 (SAST) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >X-Sender: musos@pop.icon.co.za >Message-Id: >In-Reply-To: <12b.212956e4.2b657cf4@aol.com> >References: <12b.212956e4.2b657cf4@aol.com> >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:12:44 -0500 >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >From: Colin Shapiro >Subject: Re: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" >Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Precedence: bulk > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 11:08:17 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:08:09 -0500 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.102]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:07:59 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id 6.144.91dd974 (16781) for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:07:50 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <144.91dd974.2b6aa7d5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:07:49 -0500 Subject: sgroup s760 mouse problem To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I embedded this question in another post and just want to restate it: When I first boot up my s760, the mouse does not function properly: the cursor does respond to mouse movement, but it is erratic and non-functional. At this point, if I simply unplug the mouse and plug it back in, things are fine. I wonder: is this a problem with my mouse or with my s760? Could it possibly be a problem with my RAM (memory) installed? I don't think it is the software, because I have tried booting with both 2.0 and 2.24 with no difference. jt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 11:15:55 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:15:49 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:15:39 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.237]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030130161707.UPAX3410.mail@[208.138.28.237]>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:17:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <144.91dd974.2b6aa7d5@aol.com> References: <144.91dd974.2b6aa7d5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:15:16 -0500 To: Myrios@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup s760 mouse problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:07 AM -0500 30/1/2003, Myrios@aol.com wrote: >I embedded this question in another post and just want to restate it: > >When I first boot up my s760, the mouse does not function properly: the >cursor does respond to mouse movement, but it is erratic and non-functional. >At this point, if I simply unplug the mouse and plug it back in, things are >fine. > >I wonder: is this a problem with my mouse or with my s760? Could it possibly >be a problem with my RAM (memory) installed? I don't think it is the >software, because I have tried booting with both 2.0 and 2.24 with no >difference. > >jt > are you per chance using a rc 100 remote? I had this problem when the mouse was plugged into rc100, I would sometimes I have to hit I think the reset button on the rc100. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 11:21:32 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:21:25 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:21:19 -0500 Received: from Myrios@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id o.16d.186a12eb (16781); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:21:02 -0500 (EST) From: Myrios@aol.com Message-ID: <16d.186a12eb.2b6aaaed@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:21:01 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup s760 mouse problem To: rsp@richardsven.com, Myrios@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk nope... not using the rc-100. maybe my system once had an rc-100 connected and now it thinks it should still be there?... not sure if i could reset that... i'll keeping trying boots and reboots. maybe my OP760 needs to be re-installed? maybe i just got a defective s760.. !! :-( i'm listening for other responses :-) -jt In a message dated 1/30/03 8:15:55 AM, rsp@richardsven.com writes: >At 11:07 AM -0500 30/1/2003, Myrios@aol.com wrote: >>I embedded this question in another post and just want to restate it: >> >>When I first boot up my s760, the mouse does not function properly: the >>cursor does respond to mouse movement, but it is erratic and non-functional. > >>At this point, if I simply unplug the mouse and plug it back in, things >are >>fine. >> >>I wonder: is this a problem with my mouse or with my s760? Could it possibly >>be a problem with my RAM (memory) installed? I don't think it is the >>software, because I have tried booting with both 2.0 and 2.24 with no >>difference. >> >>jt >> > >are you per chance using a rc 100 remote? >I had this problem when the mouse was plugged into rc100, I would >sometimes I have to hit I think the reset button on the rc100. > >rsp >-- >richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com >876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice >876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" > > > > > >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: >Received: from rly-xn03.mx.aol.com (rly-xn03.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.136]) >by air-xn02.mail.aol.com (v90.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXN23-0130111554; >Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:15:54 -0500 >Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by rly-xn03.mx.aol.com >(v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXN37-0130111538; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:15:38 >-0500 >Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.237]) by mail.cwjamaica.com > with ESMTP id <20030130161707.UPAX3410.mail@[208.138.28.237]>; > Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:17:07 -0500 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net >Message-Id: >In-Reply-To: <144.91dd974.2b6aa7d5@aol.com> >References: <144.91dd974.2b6aa7d5@aol.com> >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:15:16 -0500 >To: Myrios@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >From: Richard Sven Patterson >Subject: Re: sgroup s760 mouse problem >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 11:26:58 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:26:49 -0500 Received: from mail.cwjamaica.com ([200.10.152.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:26:46 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.201] ([208.138.28.237]) by mail.cwjamaica.com with ESMTP id <20030130162821.USTY3410.mail@[208.138.28.237]>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:28:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <16d.186a12eb.2b6aaaed@aol.com> References: <16d.186a12eb.2b6aaaed@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:25:43 -0500 To: Myrios@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup s760 mouse problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:21 AM -0500 30/1/2003, Myrios@aol.com wrote: >nope... not using the rc-100. > >maybe my system once had an rc-100 connected and now it thinks it should >still be there?... not sure if i could reset that... i'll keeping trying >boots and reboots. > >maybe my OP760 needs to be re-installed? maybe i just got a defective s760.. >!! :-( > >i'm listening for other responses :-) > >-jt ok :( and I am assuming you have set it to use the mouse and LCD or mouse and monitor whichever one you have and NOT the rc-100? rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-7999 (fax) and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 11:28:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:28:46 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:28:36 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:28:33 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:28:32 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup s760 mouse problem Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:28:32 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0D78@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup s760 mouse problem Thread-Index: AcLIeuaPoEmHkOPeQs+8JrfVWtsQSAAAINhg From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Richard Sven Patterson" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 16:28:32.0893 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1633AD0:01C2C87C] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:07 AM -0500 30/1/2003, Myrios@aol.com wrote: >I embedded this question in another post and just want to restate it: > >When I first boot up my s760, the mouse does not function properly: the >cursor does respond to mouse movement, but it is erratic and = non-functional.=20 >At this point, if I simply unplug the mouse and plug it back in, things = are >fine. > >I wonder: is this a problem with my mouse or with my s760? Could it = possibly >be a problem with my RAM (memory) installed? I don't think it is the >software, because I have tried booting with both 2.0 and 2.24 with no >difference. > >jt > > >are you per chance using a rc 100 remote? >I had this problem when the mouse was plugged into rc100, I would=20 >sometimes I have to hit I think the reset button on the rc100. The RC-100 problem is very common. And Roland knew about this so they=20 included the RESET button :-) And when you have a look into the RC-100 eprom you can see that the = version is 0.3 or so... I think that the Mouse problem is also a Reset problem - even if = connected=20 direct to the S-760 sampler. I think an electrolytic condensator could = be the problem as normally simple devices just use a condensator on the reset input to get a power on reset... And as electrolytic C loose their capacity after some years it is = possible that the reset pulse is now too short... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich (Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670) As of 1st of February there are new numbers: Phone: +43 (0)50 811 2265 Fax: +43 (0)-50 811 2209 eFax: +43 (0)50 811 992265 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 12:01:19 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:01:17 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:01:07 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:00:59 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:00:59 +0100 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup s760 mouse problem Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:00:58 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0D7A@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup s760 mouse problem Thread-Index: AcLIfHGIieuS0pkDREezxWV6i/+BPQABKhMQ From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Richard Sven Patterson" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 17:00:59.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[298F0390:01C2C881] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >and I am assuming you have set it to use the mouse and LCD or mouse=20 >and monitor whichever one you have and NOT the rc-100? And I needed to boot again after changing the control settings and=20 saving them. Without booting again the new cointrol settings have been ignored! I had a look at MSX mouse schematics (looks very similar to the MU-1 = mouse and they really use a simple electrolytic capacitor and a resistor & diode for = the reset generation... So maybe changing the electrolytic capacitor could help. In my schematic = it is a 22uF=20 (10V would be enough)... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich (Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670) As of 1st of February there are new numbers: Phone: +43 (0)50 811 2265 Fax: +43 (0)-50 811 2209 eFax: +43 (0)50 811 992265 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete = this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any = other action in reliance to this e-mail. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 13:11:55 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:11:52 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f6.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:11:37 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:11:34 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.100 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:11:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.100] From: "Six Stringa" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Fwd: [RolandSamplers] S750 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:11:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 18:11:34.0503 (UTC) FILETIME=[05EA0F70:01C2C88B] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk crosspost! >From: doctorsiebling@aol.com >Reply-To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com >To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [RolandSamplers] S750 >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:08:23 -0500 > >Anybody in the market for a mint S750? I have the sampler, the mouse, the >monitor and monitor adaptor cable. > >Thanks! > >-Ben Williams _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 13:12:52 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193726-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:12:41 -0500 Received: from hetnet.nl (net015s.hetnet.nl [194.151.104.155]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:12:14 -0500 Received: from ptr ([213.75.241.39]) by hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:14:28 +0100 Message-ID: <015301c2c88b$68f39b40$27f14bd5@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: "Sgroup" References: Subject: Re: sgroup Apple CD drive and s760 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:05:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This was the kind of confirmation I was looking for ! thanks. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois Rossi To: Sgroup Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:33 AM Subject: RE: sgroup Apple CD drive and s760 > > >I didn't know there might be an issue when mixing SCSI-1 & -2 though. > > None. Transfers slow down to scsi 1 level, that's all. With my S-760 I use a > scsi-3 cd, scsi-2 hard drive connected to a scsi-1 Mac and it all works. > > Francois > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 13:32:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:32:01 -0500 Received: from pop017.verizon.net (pop017pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.210]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:31:50 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.232.158]) by pop017.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20030130183141.NKMM10203.pop017.verizon.net@rickearn>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:31:41 -0600 Message-ID: <003401c2c8a7$0e5154e0$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: "Ullrich Peter" Cc: References: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB22764C0D66@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> Subject: Re: sgroup Prince Samples Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:32:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop017.verizon.net from [151.201.232.158] at Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:31:41 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ok all - I have uploaded the files. Since my server will only allow 5mb to be uploaded at a time, I had to split the file into two smaller ones. Also, Peter - I tried the link for the Linn 9000 samples, seems that the file is not complete, Winzip could not open it. The page claims the file is 900-some MB while the file itself is around 300. Thanks for the help, though! http://rickearnhardt.nstemp.com/Prince1.zip http://rickearnhardt.nstemp.com/Prince2.zip Enjoy - I hope you find it as useful as I... Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Richard Earnhardt" Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:11 AM Subject: AW: sgroup Prince Samples Hallo Richard! >For those of you who may be interested, I have just finished my work on the Prince samples >I was talking about in an earlier thread. The zip file is is 6.73 Mb and I will make it available if >anyone wants it. I am interested! Can you send the ZIP-file to me or can me give the link where I can load it? Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich (Phone: +43-1-81111-1894 Fax: +43-1-81111-8670) As of 1st of February there are new numbers: Phone: +43 (0)50 811 2265 Fax: +43 (0)-50 811 2209 eFax: +43 (0)50 811 992265 .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria \ ( ( ) http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any other action in reliance to this e-mail. > - Rick - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 13:37:15 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:37:10 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:36:55 -0500 Received: from [80.46.167.64] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18eJTM-000Mg2-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:31:36 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:38:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >first of all: Stuffit Expander does not correctly translate the 2.24.bin or >hqx files that are on Francois' website. If you download the latest version of StuffIt expander from Aladdin's website, then the binary file decompresses fine. As I used StuffIt 6.5.1 to compress the images, the latest Expander is required, not the one you have installed as standard with Mac OS. >This finally gave me a readable DART file. (SMAC >was never able to open any of the 2.24 files I have... If you read the paragraph before the links to the Dart images, it says 'You can also use Disk Copy to write back image to floppy' which I put there for new USB floppy users as Dart doesn't work with these. Disk Copy however does the trick. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 19:06:31 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:06:25 -0500 Received: from ravensgarage.com (askuse.ody.ca [216.240.7.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:06:18 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by [192.168.1.3] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 3.0.1); 30-Jan-2003 19:05:54 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:05:52 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup sys 2.24 for Mac From: Dr Raven To: S Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On 1/30/03 11:04 AM, you wrote: > Finally!!! I was able to create a 2.24 sys disk: > first of all: Stuffit Expander does not correctly translate the 2.24.bin or > hqx files that are on Francois' website. I had to open Stuffit Deluxe and > then Translate as Bin 4.0. This finally gave me a readable DART file. (SMAC > was never able to open any of the 2.24 files I have. Even the 1.4 megable > said "wrong sample length) > > Then, I'm on a Mac G4 running System 9.0 with a USB floppy drive. I guess > DART would not recognize this drive as it wants a "Superdrive"... not sure > exactly what that means. So I just copied everything over to my older Mac > Powerbook 180 with an internal floppy drive (which I guess is recognizable as > a superdrive) and I had success!! The original "SuperDrive" (not to be confused with the DVD-burning SuperDrive in current high-end Macs) was Apple's product lingo for a Mac floppy drive that reads both 800k and 1.4 MB floppy disks, only found on older Macs. I went through the same confusion when I downloaded a DART file for my S-50 onto my G4. I eventually used the floppy drive in a G3 Beige All-In-One Mac to do the job. Andy Skuse -- Raven's Garage - www.ravensgarage.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 21:46:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:46:02 -0500 Received: from pop017.verizon.net (pop017pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.210]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15781>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:45:46 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.233.142]) by pop017.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20030131024545.RAZL10203.pop017.verizon.net@rickearn> for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:45:45 -0600 Message-ID: <001801c2c8ec$141bd2c0$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: Subject: sgroup Parts is Parts Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:46:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2C8A9.040A3040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop017.verizon.net from [151.201.233.142] at Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:45:44 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2C8A9.040A3040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This may be old news, but I thought I'd post it in case anyone was = interested. The audio board on my S-50 is fried, but I still like the feel of that = keyboard and I would like to use it as a midi controller. I had several = keys that aren't sounding though, and today I finally decided to take = the entire keyboard apart. I cleaned everything judiciously and then = noticed that the problem seems to be with the rubber pads that serve as = contacts to the keyboard's PCB. The design seems to be that there are = two levels of contacts per key (I'm guessing this is how velocity is = calculated - one contact would touch milliseconds before the second). = The rubber body of the contacts are designed to compress when the key is = struck, and then pop back out when the key is let off. =20 After cleaning everything, I put the pad back on and the same keys = weren't sounding. It seems that on the bad keys, one of the two rubber = contacts does not pop back out after being compressed. Hence, ideally = you could get the key to sound once, but after that, the rubber stays = compressed even when the key is let off, and striking the key again = means that only one of the two contacts required actually makes contact. It looks like a simple matter of replacing the rubber pads. Any = suggestions as to where I might find such a part these days? Any help = would be appreciated... Rick ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2C8A9.040A3040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This may be old news, but I thought I'd = post it in=20 case anyone was interested.
 
The audio board on my S-50 is fried, = but I still=20 like the feel of that keyboard and I would like to use it as a midi=20 controller.  I had several keys that aren't sounding though, and = today I=20 finally decided to take the entire keyboard apart.  I cleaned = everything=20 judiciously and then noticed that the problem seems to be with the = rubber pads=20 that serve as contacts to the keyboard's PCB.  The design seems to = be that=20 there are two levels of contacts per key (I'm guessing this is how = velocity is=20 calculated - one contact would touch milliseconds before the = second).  The=20 rubber body of the contacts are designed to compress when the key = is=20 struck, and then pop back out when the key is let off.  =
 
After cleaning everything, I put the = pad back on=20 and the same keys weren't sounding.  It seems that on the bad keys, = one of=20 the two rubber contacts does not pop back out after being = compressed. =20 Hence, ideally you could get the key to sound once, but after that, the = rubber=20 stays compressed even when the key is let off, and striking the key = again means=20 that only one of the two contacts required actually makes = contact.
 
It looks like a simple matter of = replacing the=20 rubber pads.  Any suggestions as to where I might find such a part = these=20 days?  Any help would be appreciated...
 
Rick
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C2C8A9.040A3040-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 23:47:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:47:41 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:47:31 -0500 Received: from epu1 (125.new-york-02rh16rt-ny.dial-access.att.net[12.88.163.125]) by mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2003013104472711300629kae>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:47:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c2c8e3$3c009e00$7da3580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: sgroup Akai Question!!!!!! Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:42:57 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C8B9.512242E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C8B9.512242E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings All, Many of you have expressed that the Roland S760 can solely convert Akai = S1000 and S1100 programs, rendering S3000 conversions out of the = questions. On the other hand, none of you have ever tried convert = loading a S3000 disc. This question may be redundant, but I came across = what looks like some great S3000 discs for gerat prices. Take a look at = this site first before reading on: http://www.discoveryfirm.com/sub15/sub15e.htm I've heard some great things about these collections from East = Collexion. These are decent/complete libraries for GREAT prices. You'd = probably even be impressed by the demos on the Big Fish Audio site. = (http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detailDemos.html?506). I think I may = splurge for the Guitar CD-ROM next week.=20 The burning question: I guess if I wanted to make use of these CDs, I'd = DEFINITELY need ChickenSys Translator right? I can't afford it just as = of yet. I think I may find a friend who has this program and ask him to = convert it for me. However, I definitely can't use this with the S760 = barebones right? While I'm on the subject, what differences between the = Akai S1000 and S3000 exist that manufacturers have decided to put out = S3000 formatted CDs rather than S1000 CDs? Thanks, Harold Everton, Jr. E.D. - Everton Records, Div. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C8B9.512242E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings = All,
 
Many of you have expressed that the = Roland S760 can=20 solely convert Akai S1000 and S1100 programs, rendering S3000 = conversions out of=20 the questions. On the other hand, none of you have ever tried convert = loading a=20 S3000 disc. This question may be redundant, but I came across what looks = like=20 some great S3000 discs for gerat prices. Take a look at this site first = before=20 reading on:
 
http://www.discove= ryfirm.com/sub15/sub15e.htm
 
I've heard some great things about = these=20 collections from East Collexion. These are decent/complete libraries for = GREAT=20 prices. You'd probably even be impressed by the demos on the Big Fish = Audio=20 site. (http://ww= w.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/detailDemos.html?506).=20 I think I may splurge for the Guitar CD-ROM next week.
 
The burning question: I guess if I = wanted to make=20 use of these CDs, I'd DEFINITELY need ChickenSys Translator right? I = can't=20 afford it just as of yet. I think I may find a friend who has this = program and=20 ask him to convert it for me. However, I definitely can't use this with = the S760=20 barebones right? While I'm on the subject, what differences between the = Akai=20 S1000 and S3000 exist that manufacturers have decided to put out S3000 = formatted=20 CDs rather than S1000 CDs?
 
Thanks,
Harold Everton, Jr.
E.D. - Everton Records, = Div.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C2C8B9.512242E0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 30 23:55:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15782>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:55:11 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11331>; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:55:01 -0500 Received: from epu1 (125.new-york-02rh16rt-ny.dial-access.att.net[12.88.163.125]) by mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <20030131045457112008upl0e>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:54:57 +0000 Message-ID: <002401c2c8e4$484252c0$7da3580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup Akai Part II Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:50:29 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2C8BA.5ECD99C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2C8BA.5ECD99C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Once Again, Now look at this - If some of you insist that Akai S3000 CD-ROMs aren't = compatible with the Roland S-760, why do many sample companies insist = that it is? Would this be becuase they've tested this, or that they = assume so? Take a look at this site: http://www.bigfishaudio.com/4DCGI/formats.html Big Fish Audio carries a compatibility chart for all of its products on = its Web Site. This site says that the CD would be compatible with the = Roland S700. I also remember David Green's old Roland site at Lil Chips = saying that the Roland SP700 could read Akai S1000, S1100 AND S3000 = CD-ROMs. Perhaps I could purchase this CD from Big Fish Audio and (ahem. = .. . ) return it if it doesn't work due to misinformation? Later, Harold Everton, Jr. E.D. - Everton Records, Div. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2C8BA.5ECD99C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Once Again,
 
Now look at this - If some of you = insist that Akai=20 S3000 CD-ROMs aren't compatible with the Roland S-760, why do many = sample=20 companies insist that it is? Would this be becuase they've tested this, = or that=20 they assume so? Take a look at this site:
 
http://www.bigfis= haudio.com/4DCGI/formats.html
 
Big Fish Audio carries a compatibility = chart for=20 all of its products on its Web Site. This site says that the CD would be = compatible with the Roland S700. I also remember David Green's old = Roland site=20 at Lil Chips saying that the Roland SP700 could read Akai S1000, S1100 = AND S3000=20 CD-ROMs. Perhaps I could purchase this CD from Big Fish Audio and (ahem. = .. . )=20 return it if it doesn't work due to misinformation?
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
E.D. - Everton Records, = Div.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C2C8BA.5ECD99C0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 02:55:41 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:55:31 -0500 Received: from nordpol.dbf.ddb.de ([193.175.100.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:55:25 -0500 Received: from dbf-ex1.ad.dbf (dbf-ex1.dbf.ddb.de [10.69.63.203]) by nordpol.dbf.ddb.de (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h0V7kBU22091; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:46:12 +0100 Received: by DBF-EX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:55:17 +0100 Message-ID: <0DD42F8743AED41197470020480E35CFFE420C@DBF-EX1> From: "Seidel, Thomas" To: "'Richard Earnhardt'" Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Prince Samples Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 02:55:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Wow, great work!! New food for my S220... Thanx, --Thomas > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Earnhardt [mailto:richard.earnhardt@verizon.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:32 PM > To: Ullrich Peter > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup Prince Samples > > > Ok all - I have uploaded the files. Since my server will > only allow 5mb to > be uploaded at a time, I had to split the file into two > smaller ones. Also, > Peter - I tried the link for the Linn 9000 samples, seems > that the file is > not complete, Winzip could not open it. The page claims the file is > 900-some MB while the file itself is around 300. Thanks for the help, > though! > > http://rickearnhardt.nstemp.com/Prince1.zip > http://rickearnhardt.nstemp.com/Prince2.zip > > > Enjoy - I hope you find it as useful as I... > > > Rick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ullrich Peter" > To: "Richard Earnhardt" > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:11 AM > Subject: AW: sgroup Prince Samples > > > Hallo Richard! > > >For those of you who may be interested, I have just finished > my work on the > Prince samples > >I was talking about in an earlier thread. The zip file is > is 6.73 Mb and > I > will make it available if > >anyone wants it. > > I am interested! Can you send the ZIP-file to me or can me > give the link > where I > can load it? > > Ciao > Peter > > \|/ > (o o) > --oOOO--(_)--OOOo--------------------------------------------- > --------- > Ing. 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If you are not the intended recipient, please inform us immediately, delete this e-mail and all attachments from your system, and refrain from taking any other action in reliance to this e-mail. > - Rick - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 04:23:06 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:22:57 -0500 Received: from web41113.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.29]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:22:45 -0500 Message-ID: <20030131092243.7911.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [195.3.97.3] by web41113.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:22:43 CET Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:22:43 -0500 From: =?iso-8859-1?q?robert=20boehm?= Subject: sgroup Roland S-750 vs. S-770 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi, do you think the replacement display sold by backlights.co.uk for the S-750 will also work on the S-770? kind regards, robert. __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Bis zu 100 MB Speicher bei http://premiummail.yahoo.de - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 04:28:25 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:28:15 -0500 Received: from BIE14s.brother.co.uk (bie14s.brother.co.uk [195.226.51.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:28:12 -0500 Received: by BIE14s.brother.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:20:31 -0000 Message-ID: <7E444F72B4CAB946A4389714E9FBBD9401D01CC1@BIE14s.brother.co.uk> From: Steven Downhill To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" Subject: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:20:27 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Everybody, Does anyone know what the specifications of the Roland MKS100 sampler are?. (ie Maximum samples/sample time, MSDS implemeted etc). I can't seem to find any information for it other than:- It uses ancient 'Quick' disks. It has midi in/out/thru. It has a single audio output. Regards Steven IMPORTANT NOTICE The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither Brother International Europe Ltd nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). If you believe you have received this communication in error, please return it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then delete the email and destroy any copies of it. We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 07:36:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:36:35 -0500 Received: from nordpol.dbf.ddb.de ([193.175.100.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:36:20 -0500 Received: from dbf-ex1.ad.dbf (dbf-ex1.dbf.ddb.de [10.69.63.203]) by nordpol.dbf.ddb.de (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h0VCR9U27334; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:27:09 +0100 Received: by DBF-EX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:36:15 +0100 Message-ID: <0DD42F8743AED41197470020480E35CFFE420E@DBF-EX1> From: "Seidel, Thomas" To: "'Steven Downhill'" , "SGROUP (E-mail)" Subject: RE: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:36:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The MKS-100 is very similar to the S-220. The MKS facts are 128k RAM, 4 sec at 30 kHz, 8 sec at 15 kHz, 1 loop, no filter, mono output. 32k could be saved on one quick disk side, so saving the whole RAM needs two disks (you have to flip the sides of the disks manually!). The S-220 can read MKS-100 disks, but the S-220 has 4 outputs and two loops (switchable, only one can used at once), x-fade, double layered sounds. IMO the S-220 is the better machine, you should try to get one (it's rare). No, I do not sell mine :-) -- Thomas > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Downhill [mailto:Steven.Downhill@brother.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:20 AM > To: SGROUP (E-mail) > Subject: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler > > > Hi Everybody, > > Does anyone know what the specifications of the Roland MKS100 > sampler are?. > (ie Maximum samples/sample time, MSDS implemeted etc). > I can't seem to find any information for it other than:- > > It uses ancient 'Quick' disks. > It has midi in/out/thru. > It has a single audio output. > > Regards > Steven > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE > The contents of this email are confidential and are for the > exclusive use of > the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended > recipient(s) please > note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this > communication or > the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither > Brother International Europe Ltd > nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your > responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). > > If you believe you have received this communication in error, > please return > it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then > delete the email > and destroy any copies of it. > We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to > ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk > > Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 07:40:05 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:39:58 -0500 Received: from nordpol.dbf.ddb.de ([193.175.100.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:39:48 -0500 Received: from dbf-ex1.ad.dbf (dbf-ex1.dbf.ddb.de [10.69.63.203]) by nordpol.dbf.ddb.de (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) with ESMTP id h0VCUXU27436; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:30:33 +0100 Received: by DBF-EX1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:39:39 +0100 Message-ID: <0DD42F8743AED41197470020480E35CFFE420F@DBF-EX1> From: "Seidel, Thomas" To: "'Steven Downhill'" , "SGROUP (E-mail)" Subject: RE: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:39:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Oh, I missed the # of voices: The MKS-100 has 8, the S-220 16 voices. The S-220 has MIDI multimode on max. 4 channels. Here is a link for the MKS: http://www.ftg.co.uk/studio/mks/index.cfm?mks=100 -- Thomas > The MKS-100 is very similar to the S-220. The MKS facts are > 128k RAM, 4 sec > at 30 kHz, 8 sec at 15 kHz, 1 loop, no filter, mono output. > 32k could be > saved on one quick disk side, so saving the whole RAM needs > two disks (you > have to flip the sides of the disks manually!). The S-220 can > read MKS-100 > disks, but the S-220 has 4 outputs and two loops (switchable, > only one can > used at once), x-fade, double layered sounds. IMO the S-220 > is the better > machine, you should try to get one (it's rare). No, I do not > sell mine :-) > > -- Thomas > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steven Downhill [mailto:Steven.Downhill@brother.co.uk] > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:20 AM > > To: SGROUP (E-mail) > > Subject: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler > > > > > > Hi Everybody, > > > > Does anyone know what the specifications of the Roland MKS100 > > sampler are?. > > (ie Maximum samples/sample time, MSDS implemeted etc). > > I can't seem to find any information for it other than:- > > > > It uses ancient 'Quick' disks. > > It has midi in/out/thru. > > It has a single audio output. > > > > Regards > > Steven > > > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE > > The contents of this email are confidential and are for the > > exclusive use of > > the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended > > recipient(s) please > > note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this > > communication or > > the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > > > Please note that, although this email has been > virus-checked, neither > > Brother International Europe Ltd > > nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your > > responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). > > > > If you believe you have received this communication in error, > > please return > > it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then > > delete the email > > and destroy any copies of it. > > We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to > > ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk > > > > Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 08:06:26 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:06:18 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f244.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.244]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:06:08 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 05:06:01 -0800 Received: from 194.71.243.129 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:06:01 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.71.243.129] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:06:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2003 13:06:01.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[80E15B90:01C2C929] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Didn't mean to hijack this thread but it brings back a lot of memories of my first sampler ever, an Akai X7000 which also used the old quickdisks (LOL) :) Regards Daniel > > The MKS-100 is very similar to the S-220. The MKS facts are > > 128k RAM, 4 sec > > at 30 kHz, 8 sec at 15 kHz, 1 loop, no filter, mono output. > > 32k could be > > saved on one quick disk side, so saving the whole RAM needs > > two disks (you > > have to flip the sides of the disks manually!). The S-220 can > > read MKS-100 > > disks, but the S-220 has 4 outputs and two loops (switchable, > > only one can > > used at once), x-fade, double layered sounds. IMO the S-220 > > is the better _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 08:07:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:07:41 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:07:38 -0500 Received: from [80.46.160.146] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18eaoB-000Mab-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:02:15 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Akai Question!!!!!! Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:09:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000801c2c8e3$3c009e00$7da3580c@epu1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >On the other hand, none of you have ever tried >convert loading a S3000 disc. I tried, it doesn't work. To read S-3000 discs, either we use a program like Chickensys Translator, which we know doesn't convert into S-7xx right now, or, you convert from S-3000 to S-1000, burn a CD and then read the disc with the S-7xx. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 08:16:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:16:42 -0500 Received: from ravensgarage.com (askuse.ody.ca [216.240.7.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:16:32 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by [192.168.1.3] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 3.0.1); 31-Jan-2003 08:16:03 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:15:59 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-750 vs. S-770 From: Dr Raven To: S Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20030131092243.7911.qmail@web41113.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On 1/31/03 4:22 AM, Robert wrote: > do you think the replacement display sold by > backlights.co.uk for the S-750 will also work on the > S-770? > > kind regards, robert. Someone else mentioned that website and I couldn't find the S-750 or S-770 display. Can you post the link for the S-770 backlight? And to answer your question, the S-770 backlight should work in the S-750 as well. They are virtually identical except for the S-750 lacking an internal SCSI connection. Andy Skuse -- Raven's Garage - www.ravensgarage.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 08:32:46 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:32:40 -0500 Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.114.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193723-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:32:24 -0500 Received: from [80.46.160.146] (helo=pulsar450) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18ebCB-0001ux-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:27:03 +0000 From: "Francois Rossi" To: "Sgroup" Subject: RE: sgroup Roland S-750 vs. S-770 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:33:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> backlights.co.uk for the S-750 > Someone else mentioned that website and I couldn't find the S-750 The S-750 is mentioned, with a model reference. The site seems to be down right now. I logged on several times to get some info, and I have emailed the guy to query the possibility of replacing the S-760 LCD but I haven't got any reply yet. On the subject of LCD, I got an email from Telesis in the US, and they say they haven't explored the possibility of using a replacement display for the S-760 because they can still get some from Roland. Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 08:55:51 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:55:44 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f259.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.134]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:55:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 05:55:33 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.105 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:55:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.105] From: "Six Stringa" To: Steven.Downhill@brother.co.uk, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:55:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2003 13:55:33.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C6D70C0:01C2C930] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Steve, I don't know but I do have some ancient Roland Users Group magazines that I believe reviewed the MKS100 when it first came on the scene. I can research and scan the articles if you are interested. Also, Mr. Boehm expressed thanks for the samples from Rick for his S-220...I forgot all about that one. If John gives the ok, and folks are interested, I can scan some of the S-series articles and submit them for upload to the archives... Doug >From: Steven Downhill >To: "SGROUP (E-mail)" >Subject: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 04:20:27 -0500 > >Hi Everybody, > >Does anyone know what the specifications of the Roland MKS100 sampler are?. >(ie Maximum samples/sample time, MSDS implemeted etc). >I can't seem to find any information for it other than:- > >It uses ancient 'Quick' disks. >It has midi in/out/thru. >It has a single audio output. > >Regards >Steven > > >IMPORTANT NOTICE >The contents of this email are confidential and are for the exclusive use >of >the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please >note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or >the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > >Please note that, although this email has been virus-checked, neither >Brother International Europe Ltd >nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your >responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). > >If you believe you have received this communication in error, please return >it (with the title "received in error") to the sender then delete the email >and destroy any copies of it. >We would be grateful if you would also copy the communication to >ITHelpdesk@brother.co.uk > >Please see www.brother.co.uk for more information > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 09:01:16 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:01:08 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f156.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.156]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:00:57 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:00:50 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.105 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:00:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.105] From: "Six Stringa" To: dlehtihet@hotmail.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:00:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2003 14:00:50.0127 (UTC) FILETIME=[292E35F0:01C2C931] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk As does the Akai S-612, my first, another "quickdisk-er". >From: "Daniel Lehtihet" >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: RE: sgroup Re: Roland MKS100 Sampler >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:06:01 -0500 > >Didn't mean to hijack this thread but it brings back a lot of memories of >my first sampler ever, an Akai X7000 which also used the old quickdisks >(LOL) :) > >Regards > >Daniel > > >> > The MKS-100 is very similar to the S-220. The MKS facts are >> > 128k RAM, 4 sec >> > at 30 kHz, 8 sec at 15 kHz, 1 loop, no filter, mono output. >> > 32k could be >> > saved on one quick disk side, so saving the whole RAM needs >> > two disks (you >> > have to flip the sides of the disks manually!). The S-220 can >> > read MKS-100 >> > disks, but the S-220 has 4 outputs and two loops (switchable, >> > only one can >> > used at once), x-fade, double layered sounds. IMO the S-220 >> > is the better > > >_________________________________________________________________ >The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 14:57:21 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:57:12 -0500 Received: from siaab1ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8173>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:57:09 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaab1ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.18) id OAA00435 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:57:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:56:33 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Roland S-750 vs. S-770 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200301311456_MC3-1-27CB-97C6@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >do you think the replacement display sold by backlights.co.uk for the S-750 >will also work on the S-770? They look like the same display. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 21:47:09 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:47:03 -0500 Received: from pop018.verizon.net (pop018pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.212]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:46:57 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.232.50]) by pop018.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20030201024653.BGLC1680.pop018.verizon.net@rickearn> for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:46:53 -0600 Message-ID: <000a01c2c9b5$672f1e80$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: Subject: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:47:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C972.54A8D280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop018.verizon.net from [151.201.232.50] at Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:46:53 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C972.54A8D280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all - I hate to do this to you - I know it's a "newbie" question, = but I don't have anyone else to ask. I just got my s550 today (without = manual - it's shipping from Roland). I read everywhere that I can = convert load my s50 disks into the s550, however, I cannot find the = utility to do this anywhere in the 550 OS. I am currently using the = CD-5 v1.0 OS. Can someone point me in the right direction if it's not = too much trouble? =20 Thanks!!!! Rick ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C972.54A8D280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey all - I hate to do this to you - I = know it's a=20 "newbie" question, but I don't have anyone else to ask.  I just got = my s550=20 today (without manual - it's shipping from Roland).  I read = everywhere that=20 I can convert load my s50 disks into the s550, however, I cannot find = the=20 utility to do this anywhere in the 550 OS.  I am currently using = the CD-5=20 v1.0 OS.  Can someone point me in the right direction if it's not = too much=20 trouble? 
 
 
Thanks!!!!
 
Rick
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2C972.54A8D280-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 22:45:41 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:45:32 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f63.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.63]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:45:25 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:45:23 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.213 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 03:45:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.213] From: "Six Stringa" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:45:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2003 03:45:23.0652 (UTC) FILETIME=[59B30840:01C2C9A4] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Rick, This is explained in the S-550 Supplementary Manual, Ver. 1.1. Rather than type it, I'm going to scan the pages and e-mail them to you. John, if it's possible to upload this to the archive, contact me offline and I will e-mail them to you... Doug >From: "Richard Earnhardt" >To: >Subject: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 >Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:47:20 -0500 > >Hey all - I hate to do this to you - I know it's a "newbie" question, but I >don't have anyone else to ask. I just got my s550 today (without manual - >it's shipping from Roland). I read everywhere that I can convert load my >s50 disks into the s550, however, I cannot find the utility to do this >anywhere in the 550 OS. I am currently using the CD-5 v1.0 OS. Can >someone point me in the right direction if it's not too much trouble? > > >Thanks!!!! > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 22:51:04 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:50:56 -0500 Received: from out003.verizon.net (out003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:50:52 -0500 Received: from rickearn ([151.201.232.50]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.20 201-253-122-126-120-20021101) with ESMTP id <20030201035041.RUSK3094.out003.verizon.net@rickearn>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:50:41 -0600 Message-ID: <001d01c2c9be$5068a640$641dfea9@rickearn> From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: "Six Stringa" Cc: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:51:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [151.201.232.50] at Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:50:40 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Doug, Thanks a million bazillion - I really appreciate it!!! -Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Six Stringa" To: Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:45 PM Subject: Re: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 > Rick, > This is explained in the S-550 Supplementary Manual, Ver. 1.1. Rather than > type it, I'm going to scan the pages and e-mail them to you. > > John, if it's possible to upload this to the archive, contact me offline and > I will e-mail them to you... > > Doug > > > >From: "Richard Earnhardt" > >To: > >Subject: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 > >Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:47:20 -0500 > > > >Hey all - I hate to do this to you - I know it's a "newbie" question, but I > >don't have anyone else to ask. I just got my s550 today (without manual - > >it's shipping from Roland). I read everywhere that I can convert load my > >s50 disks into the s550, however, I cannot find the utility to do this > >anywhere in the 550 OS. I am currently using the CD-5 v1.0 OS. Can > >someone point me in the right direction if it's not too much trouble? > > > > > >Thanks!!!! > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 31 23:04:32 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:04:24 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f56.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.56]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-8172>; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:04:21 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:04:20 -0800 Received: from 159.142.158.213 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 04:04:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [159.142.158.213] From: "Six Stringa" To: richard.earnhardt@verizon.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 23:04:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2003 04:04:20.0123 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF16BEB0:01C2C9A6] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk No prob. Hotmail is kinda stingy on the free storage, so it'll becoming from my other address.... D >From: "Richard Earnhardt" >To: "Six Stringa" >CC: >Subject: Re: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:51:08 -0800 > >Doug, > >Thanks a million bazillion - I really appreciate it!!! > > >-Rick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Six Stringa" >To: >Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:45 PM >Subject: Re: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 > > > > Rick, > > This is explained in the S-550 Supplementary Manual, Ver. 1.1. Rather >than > > type it, I'm going to scan the pages and e-mail them to you. > > > > John, if it's possible to upload this to the archive, contact me offline >and > > I will e-mail them to you... > > > > Doug > > > > > > >From: "Richard Earnhardt" > > >To: > > >Subject: sgroup Convert Load S50 to S550 > > >Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:47:20 -0500 > > > > > >Hey all - I hate to do this to you - I know it's a "newbie" question, >but >I > > >don't have anyone else to ask. I just got my s550 today (without >manual - > > >it's shipping from Roland). I read everywhere that I can convert load >my > > >s50 disks into the s550, however, I cannot find the utility to do this > > >anywhere in the 550 OS. I am currently using the CD-5 v1.0 OS. Can > > >someone point me in the right direction if it's not too much trouble? > > > > > > > > >Thanks!!!! > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.