From owner-sgroup Wed May 1 06:50:31 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-5777>; Wed, 1 May 2002 06:50:22 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f10.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5777>; Wed, 1 May 2002 06:50:19 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 1 May 2002 03:50:11 -0700 Received: from 217.215.29.20 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 May 2002 10:50:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.215.29.20] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s770 CD ROM Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 06:50:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 10:50:11.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7BA0500:01C1F0FD] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Brad, As for the OS you should definitely upgrade it to the latest, 2.25 to be sure you have all the drivers. I think that the S7x0 is reasonable well equipped to handle various kinds of CD-roms. I use for example a Philips CD-RW that i had left over and it works just perfectly. I also use a Zip with it (which requires OS 2.25 btw). Kind regards Daniel >From: "brad allen" >To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: sgroup s770 CD ROM >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:51:47 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Originating-IP: [205.188.199.168] >Received: from [209.167.141.2] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBE98874F00564004320ED1A78D029C810; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:52:34 -0700 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:52:10 >-0400 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:52:01 >-0400 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3076>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:51:53 >-0400 >Received: from hotmail.com (f189.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.189]) by >hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3076>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:51:49 -0400 >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; >Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:51:47 -0700 >Received: from 205.188.199.168 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;Wed, >01 May 2002 00:51:47 GMT From sgroup-owner@lists.uunet.ca Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:54:27 -0700 >Message-ID: >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 00:51:47.0266 (UTC) >FILETIME=[5F09AA20:01C1F0AA] >Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Precedence: bulk > >Hello. I had posted a request for compatible CD ROM drives for the s770 and >wish to thank those who so kindly responded. I guess I didn't make it to >the >Roland site in time since they seem to have taken it down? > >In any case, I had a few questions if anyone can help. > >1. Is there something special I have to do to get the s770 to see the >drive? > >2. Is there a way to see what drivers are currently in my machine? > >3. How would I install new drivers? > >4. I think my OS is version 2.04 so should I upgrade? > >I am dying to start using this machine. > >Best wishes, >Brad > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > Linux is like a WigWam, no Windows, no Gates, Apache inside. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed May 1 10:40:16 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-5776>; Wed, 1 May 2002 10:40:10 -0400 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5776>; Wed, 1 May 2002 10:40:03 -0400 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id HAA03840; Wed, 1 May 2002 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.141) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma003836; Wed, 1 May 02 07:50:40 -0700 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g41Edhq30999 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 1 May 2002 10:39:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web14506.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.69]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-5777>; Wed, 1 May 2002 04:17:08 -0400 Message-ID: <20020501081702.5236.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.183.107.93] by web14506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 May 2002 01:17:02 PDT Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 04:17:02 -0400 From: Philipp Schicker Subject: sgroup How to write a system disk (on PC) for S-750 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, Obviously I wasn't the only user,who had problems writing a system disk,so I'll post the procedure,maybe that will help some other users: After I saw that SDISK couldn't write the OS (neither in the .out or .sdk format) I realized that I had to use another software which I found in Floppy Image (http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/utilities/pc/floppyimage/ Just download and unzip the file). I used the OS-file from: http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/os/S770/s770_225.zip The unzipped version is 770_225.sdk which must be renamed to 770_225.img (that's important). Another important thing is that you have to have a 720kb formated disk (I used an old DD-Floppy). Then just run the Program,insert the .img-file to the "Write Floppy"-box,hit start and that's it. If someone has further questions, just email. Greetings from Vienna, Phil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed May 1 10:40:18 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-5776>; Wed, 1 May 2002 10:40:10 -0400 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-5776>; Wed, 1 May 2002 10:40:04 -0400 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id HAA03842; Wed, 1 May 2002 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.141) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma003837; Wed, 1 May 02 07:50:44 -0700 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g41Edlf31006 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 1 May 2002 10:39:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web12307.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.105]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-5776>; Wed, 1 May 2002 09:44:22 -0400 Message-ID: <20020501134419.15272.qmail@web12307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.128.98.3] by web12307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 May 2002 06:44:19 PDT Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:44:19 -0400 From: Dharma Bummer Subject: sgroup Roland power cord? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Does anybody know where to find a replacement power cord that works on the Roland S-10 and S-550 (and probably other) samplers? I have one cord to share between my S-10 and S-550, and it's getting kind of annoying... BaM ===== This message has been brought to you by the little ASCII art duck who never stopped complaining: o< THIS SUCKS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed May 1 16:31:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-5777>; Wed, 1 May 2002 16:31:46 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5777>; Wed, 1 May 2002 16:31:42 -0400 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.c8.264a6e50 (3981) for ; Wed, 1 May 2002 16:31:25 -0400 (EDT) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:31:25 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Roland power cord? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If you have a solder iron you can probably put one together with a used power 3 prong power supply. I can't remember if the s series used 2 prongs but I know the w30 is like that. Maybe it's the other way around I don't remember. The 3 prongs of course you can get anywhere. Dave >>Does anybody know where to find a replacement power cord that works on the Roland S-10 and S-550 (and probably other) samplers? I have one cord to share between my S-10 and S-550, and it's getting kind of annoying... BaM<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed May 1 23:03:06 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-5777>; Wed, 1 May 2002 23:02:58 -0400 Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.164]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5777>; Wed, 1 May 2002 23:02:52 -0400 Received: from CircusGods@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.16e.d044a31 (18707) for ; Wed, 1 May 2002 23:02:43 -0400 (EDT) From: CircusGods@aol.com Message-ID: <16e.d044a31.2a020653@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 23:02:43 -0400 Subject: sgroup W-30 heads? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16e.d044a31.2a020653_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_16e.d044a31.2a020653_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a proud new papa of a Roland W-30 and just wanted to try to connect with people who know and still like it. Thanks for your help Jackson ~JXN YOU NEED A CAT --part1_16e.d044a31.2a020653_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a proud new papa of a Roland W-30 and just wanted to try to connect with people who know and still like it.
Thanks for your help
Jackson

~JXN
YOU NEED A CAT









--part1_16e.d044a31.2a020653_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed May 1 23:14:21 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-5776>; Wed, 1 May 2002 23:14:13 -0400 Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.97]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-5776>; Wed, 1 May 2002 23:14:06 -0400 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.1a6.1a70560 (17379) for ; Wed, 1 May 2002 23:13:59 -0400 (EDT) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <1a6.1a70560.2a0208f7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 23:13:59 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup W-30 heads? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Great machine. I just never like the way it sequenced. Not too friendly in my opinion. But the sound is great! Dave >>I am a proud new papa of a Roland W-30 and just wanted to try to connect with people who know and still like it. Thanks for your help Jackson<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu May 2 11:25:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-13731>; Thu, 2 May 2002 11:25:48 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([142.146.233.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13731>; Thu, 2 May 2002 11:25:33 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g42FPSD07790 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 2 May 2002 11:25:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net ([207.44.96.86]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-13730>; Thu, 2 May 2002 06:41:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 29699 invoked by uid 50005); 2 May 2002 10:41:30 -0000 Received: from mal@ultralight-hiking.com by smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net by uid 50002 with qmail-scanner-1.10 (uvscan: v4.1.60/v4199. . Clear:0. Processed in 0.732999 secs); 02 May 2002 10:41:30 -0000 Received: from du36125.mlf.ptd.net (HELO tiger) ([204.186.36.125]) (envelope-sender ) by smtpf.ha-net.ptd.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 May 2002 10:41:29 -0000 Message-ID: <006f01c1f1c5$edbfb5e0$7d24bacc@tiger> From: "mal" To: References: <1020324896.3604.47599.m12@yahoogroups.com> Subject: sgroup Re: [rsugroup] Digest Number 163 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 06:41:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Way cool! The W-30 is still my only machine I use. (But then again, I only really use it for sound effects, and film b.g. music.) BTW, if you haven't already, you should consider a Hard drive for the W30 -- it makes it much more user friendly. Cheers, Marius ---------- > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 23:02:43 -0400 > From: CircusGods@aol.com > Subject: sgroup W-30 heads? > > I am a proud new papa of a Roland W-30 and just wanted to try to connect with > people who know and still like it. > Thanks for your help > Jackson > > ~JXN > YOU NEED A CAT - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 11 07:04:33 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7503>; Sat, 11 May 2002 07:04:26 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7503>; Sat, 11 May 2002 07:04:15 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB1F0A.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.31.10]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA04403 for ; Sat, 11 May 2002 13:04:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g4BB2EW01180 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 11 May 2002 13:02:14 +0200 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 07:02:14 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: sgroup S330 Message-ID: <20020511130214.A1038@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, does anyone one where I can find the Service Manual of the S-330? It would be the best to get it as a PDF file. But even any other format does it. Thanks, Martin Wulff -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 11 13:18:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7503>; Sat, 11 May 2002 13:18:09 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.102]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7503>; Sat, 11 May 2002 13:18:02 -0400 Received: from Route66Studios@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.144.e553728 (16111) for ; Sat, 11 May 2002 13:17:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netscape.com (mow-d08.webmail.aol.com [205.188.138.72]) by air-id12.mx.aol.com (v86.11) with ESMTP id MAILINID123-0511131758; Sat, 11 May 2002 13:17:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 13:15:18 -0400 From: Route66Studios@aol.com To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S330 Message-ID: <132D2545.5918464B.42F455C2@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I am working on the new Roland mouse but I need to know if the factory MU-1 mouse works on all the S series units? Richard at Route 66 Studios - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 11 22:00:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7502>; Sat, 11 May 2002 22:00:06 -0400 Received: from mail.dezzanet.net.au (dana.dezzanet.net.au [203.26.33.12]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7502>; Sat, 11 May 2002 22:00:00 -0400 Received: from ([203.26.33.127]) by mail.dezzanet.net.au (Merak 4.2.2) with SMTP id 2C9D1507 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 11:58:01 +1000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020512115958.008112b0@mail.dezzanet.net.au> X-Sender: jb@mail.dezzanet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 21:59:58 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: jb Subject: sgroup SP-202 OS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk (perhaps this isn't 100% on topic but it's close!) i recently got a boss sp-202, not bad for it's size and price. but whats up with the midi timing?!! i think in the tests i did a stream of 8th notes at anything much higher than 110bpm would sound quiet out of time. shoot notes at it faster than this, especially if you want to play more than 1 different sound in the same bar (not even at the same time), and it gets very confused indeed. this is all with plenty of space between notes and all effects and "mark" turned off. i understand the OS went to at least 1.03. how do i tell which i have? i don't know if i'd want to spend money on buying a new chip but i wonder if could load in the new OS using MIDI in? or is this the type of feature only found on more expensive machines? have had a look on roland's u.s. web site but nothing about it there. cheers _____________________________________________________ digitalhell mailinglist - digitalhell@hyperreal.org - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 12 09:25:36 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 09:25:26 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 09:25:23 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4CDPL148493 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 12 May 2002 09:25:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 04:30:54 -0400 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.10) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 12 May 2002 10:30:48 +0200 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.116]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Sun, 12 May 2002 10:30:48 +0200 Subject: RE: sgroup S330 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 04:30:48 -0400 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB2276023B7F@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup S330 Thread-Index: AcH5D+wIb8XhIZBTRc6Ixtbfm12vkQAfoEqm From: "Ullrich Peter" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 May 2002 08:30:48.0443 (UTC) FILETIME=[516704B0:01C1F98F] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I am working on the new Roland mouse but I need to know if the factory >MU-1 mouse works on all the S series units? I am also working on a mouse converter. My first design will convert = Atari or Amiga mice into a MU-1 mouse. As my time is limited now it will take = another few weeks. A second version should implement the conversion of a standard = serial PC mouse... My design will use a 80c51 series microcontroller. Which microcontroller family will you use? Your question: It works for sure on the S-50, S-330 and S-550 samplers. As Synrise says also the S-750, S-760 and S-770 use this mouse. And also = the RC-100 remote control. By the way: Does anyone have a schematic of the RC-100 remote control? Ciao Peter http://www.ullrich.at.tt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 12 14:01:30 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20429>; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:01:22 -0400 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.88]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20429>; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:01:12 -0400 Received: from smtp-relay03-en1.mac.com (smtp-relay03-en1 [10.13.10.222]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g4CI1APZ006599 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 11:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay03-en1.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g4CI15C7007376 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 11:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([63.227.42.161]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GW0FDS00.H1R for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 11:01:04 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:01:05 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3A825CA0-65D2-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, I have to admit I haven't been following this list for the past couple months, as I've been planning to replace my S760 with a software sampler. Why? It's certainly not a lack of features or power, but rather it's just a pain in the butt to dig through samples, bring them into my performance, assign them to drum pads, and so forth. But my exploration into software samplers reveals that the S760 is still a very compelling box -- its feature list matches my needs as a drummer very well. So a question for the group: how do you deal with big sample libraries without going crazy? (Or is going crazy just part of the process?) Maybe I just missed something in the manuals, but it seems very tiresome to scroll through 1000 (or more!) partials on a CD looking for the right sound. Usually there are volumes to load with a selection of sounds ("cymbals menu 1" and whatnot), but then I have to write down the partials that appeal to me, reload the drum kit I was working on, then scroll down 732 or whatever partials to find the one I liked in that other performance... what a pain. So what are *your* tricks for auditioning and managing samples? As for the other general musings, somewhat off topic: while I didn't find anything compelling enough to replace my trusty S760, I did fall in love with Reason, and I think I've yakked about it enough to my wife that she'll let me buy it just to shut me up. It also looks like their new sampler in Reason 2 (not out yet) will be pretty cool, though it still doesn't have the feature set of the S760. Keyboard players may not notice, but for drums there are some features that tend to get ignored by software makers. And, in general, Reason doesn't support some things that are important for live performance, e.g. MIDI program changes. But it looks like you can do some pretty crazy stuff with Reason, and it should be fun to mess around with, even if I'm just sequencing some bass/synth patterns to practice with. Their CV/gate connections are fascinating -- you can use a pattern player to control an effects box, etc.. Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting it, though I'm not sure if I'll use it live or not. -Josh - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 12 14:07:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:07:14 -0400 Received: from mail.san.yahoo.com ([209.132.1.30]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:07:04 -0400 Received: from sjspc (66.224.34.21) by mail.san.yahoo.com (6.5.017.1) id 3CDE2F5E0000F5F3; Sun, 12 May 2002 11:06:50 -0700 Message-ID: <04dd01c1f9df$c41f66a0$6401a8c0@sjspc> Reply-To: "Steve Schow" From: "Steve Schow" To: "Josh Carter" , "Roland Sgroup" References: <3A825CA0-65D2-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> Subject: Re: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:06:38 -0400 Organization: Backstage Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Up until, the guys making Reasons (Propeller Head) refuse to release information about their proprietary sample format. So, for example, Chickensys software is unable to make a translator to import other sample libs into Reason. Hopefully in version 2, Propeller head either opens up the info channels a bit or else provides their own translations. I believe the Reason sampler can import raw wav files or something like that. But what it can NOT do is read, for example, an Akai sample disk and import all the keymaps and other parameters that you need to use it. In this sense, the reason sampler is on its own little island. You can use whateverl libraries that Propellerheads provides for you...and that's it. I do really like Reason though as a cool music making program. Another nice thing....it runs on both mac and Pc....the same way. There are very few software samplers in the Mac world. This is one of them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Carter" To: "Roland Sgroup" Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings > Hi all, > > I have to admit I haven't been following this list for the past couple > months, as I've been planning to replace my S760 with a software > sampler. Why? It's certainly not a lack of features or power, but rather > it's just a pain in the butt to dig through samples, bring them into my > performance, assign them to drum pads, and so forth. But my exploration > into software samplers reveals that the S760 is still a very compelling > box -- its feature list matches my needs as a drummer very well. > > So a question for the group: how do you deal with big sample libraries > without going crazy? (Or is going crazy just part of the process?) Maybe > I just missed something in the manuals, but it seems very tiresome to > scroll through 1000 (or more!) partials on a CD looking for the right > sound. Usually there are volumes to load with a selection of sounds > ("cymbals menu 1" and whatnot), but then I have to write down the > partials that appeal to me, reload the drum kit I was working on, then > scroll down 732 or whatever partials to find the one I liked in that > other performance... what a pain. So what are *your* tricks for > auditioning and managing samples? > > As for the other general musings, somewhat off topic: while I didn't > find anything compelling enough to replace my trusty S760, I did fall in > love with Reason, and I think I've yakked about it enough to my wife > that she'll let me buy it just to shut me up. It also looks like their > new sampler in Reason 2 (not out yet) will be pretty cool, though it > still doesn't have the feature set of the S760. Keyboard players may not > notice, but for drums there are some features that tend to get ignored > by software makers. And, in general, Reason doesn't support some things > that are important for live performance, e.g. MIDI program changes. > > But it looks like you can do some pretty crazy stuff with Reason, and it > should be fun to mess around with, even if I'm just sequencing some > bass/synth patterns to practice with. Their CV/gate connections are > fascinating -- you can use a pattern player to control an effects box, > etc.. Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting it, though I'm not sure if > I'll use it live or not. > > -Josh > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 12 14:09:05 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20429>; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:08:55 -0400 Received: from mail.infochan.com ([208.52.68.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20429>; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:08:49 -0400 Received: from [66.205.26.232] by mail.infochan.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 12 May 2002 13:08:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3A825CA0-65D2-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> References: <3A825CA0-65D2-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:09:30 -0400 To: Josh Carter , Roland Sgroup From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi Josh, ironically reason is currently the only software for the past few months that has me so excited to, well maybe absynth for its sounds. how I use my S-760s is I have a scsi chain set up with two on either end and three cdroms, two hard drives and a zip in between them. not sure if I am reading you correctly. but I almost NEVER look at partials. it is mostly volumes and at most patches....... but key to the way I work is the Volume Dump command which basically allows you to save on floppy the macros of whatever, patches, partials, samples, performance etc you use in a particuliar song...... you name that volume and save it to floppy. and when you want to revisit that song. you just load that floppy and it goes through your drives and loads back all the samples you need for that song.......this is the main way I use to manage samples..... because I have two s-760, I use one to audition sounds and if they work on that song, I load them up on the first s-760, and continue that process. and at the end of it all I do a listen delete then a volume dump.... good luck, rsp At 2:01 pm -0400 12/5/2002, Josh Carter wrote: >Hi all, > >I have to admit I haven't been following this list for the past >couple months, as I've been planning to replace my S760 with a >software sampler. Why? It's certainly not a lack of features or >power, but rather it's just a pain in the butt to dig through >samples, bring them into my performance, assign them to drum pads, >and so forth. But my exploration into software samplers reveals that >the S760 is still a very compelling box -- its feature list matches >my needs as a drummer very well. > >So a question for the group: how do you deal with big sample >libraries without going crazy? (Or is going crazy just part of the >process?) Maybe I just missed something in the manuals, but it seems >very tiresome to scroll through 1000 (or more!) partials on a CD >looking for the right sound. Usually there are volumes to load with >a selection of sounds ("cymbals menu 1" and whatnot), but then I >have to write down the partials that appeal to me, reload the drum >kit I was working on, then scroll down 732 or whatever partials to >find the one I liked in that other performance... what a pain. So >what are *your* tricks for auditioning and managing samples? > >As for the other general musings, somewhat off topic: while I didn't >find anything compelling enough to replace my trusty S760, I did >fall in love with Reason, and I think I've yakked about it enough to >my wife that she'll let me buy it just to shut me up. It also looks >like their new sampler in Reason 2 (not out yet) will be pretty >cool, though it still doesn't have the feature set of the S760. >Keyboard players may not notice, but for drums there are some >features that tend to get ignored by software makers. And, in >general, Reason doesn't support some things that are important for >live performance, e.g. MIDI program changes. > >But it looks like you can do some pretty crazy stuff with Reason, >and it should be fun to mess around with, even if I'm just >sequencing some bass/synth patterns to practice with. Their CV/gate >connections are fascinating -- you can use a pattern player to >control an effects box, etc.. Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting >it, though I'm not sure if I'll use it live or not. > >-Josh > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 12 16:32:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 16:32:45 -0400 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.89]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 16:32:35 -0400 Received: from smtp-relay.mac.com (smtp-relay01-en1 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g4CKWYkv017557 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 13:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g4CKWTrE000361 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 13:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([63.227.42.161]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GW0ME400.R0O for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 13:32:28 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 16:32:29 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <60DA1356-65E7-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Richard, > not sure if I am reading you correctly. but I almost NEVER look at > partials. > it is mostly volumes and at most patches....... Sorry, let me clarify: I'm playing drums, so putting together a sampled kit often means selecting each instrument separately. "Instrument" for me means partials, usually one sample to a partial, unless they're stereo and/or velocity layered. I'll group these into patches of, say, a couple cymbals that play well together. Then my volume is a collection of patches that make a good kit. I understand that normal keyboard instruments will be using the whole key range (or maybe half), thus you'd be dealing at the volume/patch level almost exclusively. Drums are one "key" (drum pad) at a time, though some things like toms you can bring in as a group. Even there, however, I tend to do editing at the partial level to get them mapped out right. (Velocity curve/gain and keyfollow usually need adjustment.) Needless to say, doing this on a credit-card sized screen with a couple buttons and a knob gets tiring! (I don't have a monitor or mouse.) > because I have two s-760, I use one to audition sounds and if they work > on that song, I load them up on the first s-760, and continue that > process. and at the end of it all I do a listen delete then a volume > dump.... That sounds like a good setup. I had the opportunity to buy two S760s very cheap, but figured I'd only need one. Oh well. -Josh - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 12 16:52:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 16:52:13 -0400 Received: from TheWorld.com (pcls2.std.com [199.172.62.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 16:52:10 -0400 Received: from bbm (w208.z208177251.bos-ma.dsl.cnc.net [208.177.251.208]) by TheWorld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07114; Sun, 12 May 2002 16:51:57 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c1fa10$51591d60$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> From: "mbranco" To: "Josh Carter" , "Roland Sgroup" References: <60DA1356-65E7-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> Subject: Re: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 19:54:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Needless to say, doing this on a credit-card sized screen with a couple > buttons and a knob gets tiring! (I don't have a monitor or mouse.) fwiw, a roland mouse (about $80) and an atari sc1224 monitor (available on ebay for around $50) + cable would be an investment you'd never regret if you use your 760 much. we have four of 'em and love 'em, but wouldn't touch 'em without the mouse/monitor combo. just my opinion. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 12 17:48:51 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 17:48:43 -0400 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.85]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20429>; Sun, 12 May 2002 17:48:38 -0400 Received: from smtp-relay.mac.com (smtp-relay01-en1 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g4CLmWk2004218 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com (asmtp02-qfe3 [10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g4CLmRrE008189 for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([63.227.42.161]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GW0PWR00.V8I for ; Sun, 12 May 2002 14:48:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 16:32:29 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <60DA1356-65E7-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Richard, > not sure if I am reading you correctly. but I almost NEVER look at > partials. > it is mostly volumes and at most patches....... Sorry, let me clarify: I'm playing drums, so putting together a sampled kit often means selecting each instrument separately. "Instrument" for me means partials, usually one sample to a partial, unless they're stereo and/or velocity layered. I'll group these into patches of, say, a couple cymbals that play well together. Then my volume is a collection of patches that make a good kit. I understand that normal keyboard instruments will be using the whole key range (or maybe half), thus you'd be dealing at the volume/patch level almost exclusively. Drums are one "key" (drum pad) at a time, though some things like toms you can bring in as a group. Even there, however, I tend to do editing at the partial level to get them mapped out right. (Velocity curve/gain and keyfollow usually need adjustment.) Needless to say, doing this on a credit-card sized screen with a couple buttons and a knob gets tiring! (I don't have a monitor or mouse.) > because I have two s-760, I use one to audition sounds and if they work > on that song, I load them up on the first s-760, and continue that > process. and at the end of it all I do a listen delete then a volume > dump.... That sounds like a good setup. I had the opportunity to buy two S760s very cheap, but figured I'd only need one. Oh well. -Josh - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 12 20:42:06 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 20:42:01 -0400 Received: from mail.infochan.com ([208.52.68.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 20:41:50 -0400 Received: from [66.205.26.123] by mail.infochan.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 12 May 2002 19:41:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000901c1fa10$51591d60$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> References: <60DA1356-65E7-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> <000901c1fa10$51591d60$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 20:42:34 -0400 To: "mbranco" , "Josh Carter" , "Roland Sgroup" From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 7:54 pm -0400 12/5/2002, mbranco wrote: > > Needless to say, doing this on a credit-card sized screen with a couple >> buttons and a knob gets tiring! (I don't have a monitor or mouse.) > >fwiw, a roland mouse (about $80) and an atari sc1224 monitor >(available on ebay for around $50) + cable would be an investment >you'd never regret if you use your 760 much. > >we have four of 'em and love 'em, but wouldn't touch 'em without the >mouse/monitor combo. just my opinion. > I agree wholeheartedly...recently in march I had to use one of mind for a whole month without mouse and monitor......it made life THAT much more difficult. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 13 06:37:06 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 06:37:00 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.49]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 06:36:50 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.245]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020513103648.YDNN18857.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 10:36:48 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c1fa69$5cba2e20$f550580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <60DA1356-65E7-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> <000901c1fa10$51591d60$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> Subject: sgroup How much is a Roland S760 worth these days? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 06:31:36 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey All, With sample CDs being so expensive and me not accumlating the library I thought I would, I just haven't been using my Roland S760. I think I should have hung on to my Roland SC880 instead. I'm about to sell my Roland VS840 and S760 and trade it in for a Roland 1680. How much is a Roland S760 worth with the 32MB, OP1, Zip, CD-ROM and Roland LCDX1, Preview Disc, Bob Clearmountain and Sampling Showcase CD? Anyone have a clue? Thanks, Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 13 07:00:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7101>; Mon, 13 May 2002 07:00:43 -0400 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7101>; Mon, 13 May 2002 07:00:37 -0400 Received: from user-2ive08n.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.23] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 177DZA-0000El-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 13 May 2002 07:00:33 -0400 Message-ID: <3CDF9D1F.C7EEA4BA@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:01:52 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Almost Free Akai Format Sample CD for your Roland S700 Sampler! References: <5.0.2.1.2.20020511184334.00a4a720@backintimerecords.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I located a German sample company who provides an almost free demo CD of their samples in Akai format, ready to Convert Load into your Roland S700 series sampler! It's almost 200 Mb of their best samples of all different kinds, including some very nice pianos and electric pianos, organs, synthesizers, vocal stuff, effects, some orchestral instruments, a few guitars and bass, acoustic and synth drums and more. I've listened to about a quarter of it and it's quality stuff. There's a pretty nice acoustic drum kit with a nice snare and some very nice toms. There's lots of samples from Korg series synths - the company makes sample CDs called 'The History of Korg' which features samples from the most popular Korg synths. As the liner notes state, some of these samples are the simpler versions of the real samples you can purchase; for example you get some 5 Mb mono piano samples which are still pretty good but on the real CD for purchase you also get the full 32 Mb stereo version. To get the CD, send an email to Klaus Rausch at Backintime Records. Tell him Jesse sent you. You'll need to send $5.00 for shipping. "Klaus P. Rausch" There is a web site in German but it's not translated into English yet: http://www.backintimerecords.de/bitr001.htm Check out these samples. I'm seriously considering buying a few of these CDs. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 13 07:57:41 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7101>; Mon, 13 May 2002 07:57:32 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 07:57:26 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.245]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020513115722.JEKF7485.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Mon, 13 May 2002 11:57:22 +0000 Message-ID: <003201c1fa74$9e7802a0$f550580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Jesse Segovia" , References: <60DA1356-65E7-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> <000901c1fa10$51591d60$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> <001b01c1fa69$5cba2e20$f550580c@epu1> <3CDF9F1A.9303B14E@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup How much is a Roland S760 worth these days? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:52:10 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Jesse, I've been pondering this for a while now. Before I do this, I may check out that sampling CD from that German company you referred us to. $5 for a demo CD aint bad. The thing is however, can you use these samples in commercial recordings? Demo CDs usually have some limitations. I can't seem to retrieve those GIGAPACK and GIGAPACK II CDs that I sold last year. Both sets came with a 1GB of sounds! Most of them are of so-so to excellent quality. I should have never sold those last year for $35. Just one set alone goes for $269 brand new (then again, those were copies that were sold to me along with the unit - burned copies that is). I'm also at a point where I need more tracks in my studio. I don't want to use my computer for this (even though I have experience with Pro-Tools from my school and in major local studios). I love my VS840 and have always wanted a 1680. Sure the AW4416 is better, but Roland has a superior user and support base (just check out www.vsplanet.com - 6200 registered users on their BBS and still counting). The 1680 with both FX cards are selling for under $1000 these days - This is the price of my sampler alone and is excellent (considering the 1680 with both FX cards were going for around $2800 4 years ago). Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Segovia To: Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:10 AM Subject: Re: sgroup How much is a Roland S760 worth these days? > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > With sample CDs being so expensive and me not accumlating the library I > > thought I would, I just haven't been using my Roland S760. I think I should > > have hung on to my Roland SC880 instead. I'm about to sell my Roland VS840 > > and S760 and trade it in for a Roland 1680. > > I know the 1680 is a bit less expensive, but have you considered the > 2480? There's also my unit, the Yamaha 4416, which has come down quite > a bit in price and is a very nice unit, in many ways much nicer than the > 1680. > > Good luck selling the S760. I don't know if prices have changed much > since we bought ours, but do let us know what you get. I occasionally > see them on ebay for almost a thousand dollars but I haven't looked much > lately. > > Jesse > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 13 10:07:49 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7101>; Mon, 13 May 2002 10:07:41 -0400 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 10:07:36 -0400 Received: from user-2ive10r.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.4.27] helo=mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 177GTk-0002Em-00; Mon, 13 May 2002 10:07:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3CDFC8D8.8933C99B@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 10:08:24 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup How much is a Roland S760 worth these days? References: <60DA1356-65E7-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> <000901c1fa10$51591d60$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> <001b01c1fa69$5cba2e20$f550580c@epu1> <3CDF9F1A.9303B14E@mindspring.com> <003201c1fa74$9e7802a0$f550580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > The thing is however, can you use these samples in commercial > recordings? Demo CDs usually have some limitations. I threw away the papers that came with the CD but I'm pretty sure you get full commercial license for yourself. Of course you can't transfer the license to anyone else as they all say. When you email the fellow in Germany ask him about the licensing. Say, can any of the software sampler solutions play Roland and Akai formatted sample disks? > I'm also at a point where I need more tracks in my studio. I don't want to > use my computer for this (even though I have experience with Pro-Tools from > my school and in major local studios). I love my VS840 and have always > wanted a 1680. Sure the AW4416 is better, but Roland has a superior user and > support base (just check out www.vsplanet.com - 6200 registered users on > their BBS and still counting). The 1680 with both FX cards are selling for > under $1000 these days That is an amazing price. To buy the external version of the Roland FX unit costs $500 list right there. Add less than another $500 and you get a second FX unit and a full-feature 16 track digital recorder besides! Yamaha's user base is much smaller compared to the Rolands which have been around for much longer, but I'm on a 4416 email list with some very heavy guys - they have the answer to just about every single technical question that comes up. They've certainly answered all of mine. The PC vs DAW argument is a real religious debate. Some say the dedicated DAW is the way to go - no crashing, built from the ground up to do digital audio, hardware and all the software you need already included, plus some expansion is possible for those who want more. But others say the PCs openness makes up for that. Personally I'm a software consultant and I work on PCs all day long for a living, but I just haven't made the leap to use them much for music. I use computers for MIDI sequencing and for sending patches for my Pod but that's about it. For some reason the idea of putting my tracks in the computer and then applying this and that plug-in to them or manipulating the audio data directly just doesn't appeal to me. The way I work is to play (or sequence) the tracks into my recorder and then do as little processing in the mixing/mastering process as possible, and it just seems a PC would get in the way more than it would help. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 13 13:25:35 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:28 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193721-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:23 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4DHPLK20727 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7101>; Mon, 13 May 2002 03:20:04 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-28-218.tnt3.me2.uunet.de [149.225.28.218]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id JAA15234 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 09:19:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3CDF6800.35937C06@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 03:15:13 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S330 References: <20020511130214.A1038@martin.unix-net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Martin Wulff wrote: > > Hi, > > does anyone one where I can find the Service Manual of the S-330? It > would be the best to get it as a PDF file. But even any other format > does it. Did you ask Roland Germany? I got mine from them, it wasn't too expensive. Any problems with your unit? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 13 13:25:36 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:31 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:20 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4DHPG320720 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au ([203.25.148.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20430>; Sun, 12 May 2002 20:54:01 -0400 Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id g4D0rrXt023819 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 10:53:54 +1000 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.254] (ppp105.adsl89.pacific.net.au [202.7.89.105]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id KAA14632 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 10:53:53 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 21:06:39 -0400 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: Roland Sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings Message-ID: <2077033666.1021287999@[192.168.0.11]> In-Reply-To: <3A825CA0-65D2-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> References: <3A825CA0-65D2-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Josh Carter wrote: > So a question for the group: how do you deal with big sample libraries > without going crazy? (Or is going crazy just part of the process?) Maybe > I just missed something in the manuals, but it seems very tiresome to > scroll through 1000 (or more!) partials on a CD looking for the right > sound. Usually there are volumes to load with a selection of sounds > ("cymbals menu 1" and whatnot), but then I have to write down the > partials that appeal to me, reload the drum kit I was working on, then > scroll down 732 or whatever partials to find the one I liked in that > other performance... what a pain. So what are *your* tricks for > auditioning and managing samples? It's been a while since I fired up the old S-760, but I think this is what you might want to do. Load up your "menu" selection, but create a new patch. I can't remember if you can iterate through the partials in the patch view - if so - that may make life a bit easier. Anyway, audition the partials, and any that grab your attention you can assign to the patch. Then save the patch. Then reload your drum kit, and the new patch - this gives you a much smaller list to scroll through when assigning to your kit. I guess I'm saying that instead of writing down partial names - use the S-760 to effectively save the list. mbranco wrote: > > Needless to say, doing this on a credit-card sized screen with a couple > > buttons and a knob gets tiring! (I don't have a monitor or mouse.) > > fwiw, a roland mouse (about $80) and an atari sc1224 monitor > (available on ebay for around $50) + cable would be an investment > you'd never regret if you use your 760 much. Um - you'd also need the OP-760 expansion which could add a bit to the cost. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 13 13:26:15 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:53 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193718-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:29 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4DHPRA20739 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 03:20:04 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-28-218.tnt3.me2.uunet.de [149.225.28.218]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id JAA15180 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 09:19:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3CDF665B.40D11FFB@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 03:08:12 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S330 References: <132D2545.5918464B.42F455C2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Route66Studios@aol.com wrote: > > I am working on the new Roland mouse but I need to know if the factory MU-1 mouse works on all the S series units? The MU-1 works both with the S-330 and the S-760. The one that came with the S-760 just has a longer cable. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 13 13:26:48 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193740-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:26:26 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193734-7101>; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:26:00 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4DHPsq20766 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 13 May 2002 13:25:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7102>; Mon, 13 May 2002 09:08:30 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-121-217.tnt10.me2.uunet.de [149.225.121.217]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id PAA18242 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 15:08:21 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3CDF6C1A.DE4EB869@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 03:32:43 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup managing sample libraries, other general musings References: <60DA1356-65E7-11D6-A97E-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> <000901c1fa10$51591d60$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk mbranco wrote: > fwiw, a roland mouse (about $80) and an atari sc1224 monitor > (available on ebay for around $50) + cable would be an investment > you'd never regret if you use your 760 much. But don't forget, for the S-760 you also need the OP-760 expansion board for this. My OP-760 came with a MU-1 mouse included. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 13 23:56:13 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7101>; Mon, 13 May 2002 23:56:06 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7101>; Mon, 13 May 2002 23:56:00 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.118.6]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020514035549.PFOG28991.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 14 May 2002 03:55:49 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c1fafa$83020440$0676580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Well? Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 23:50:37 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1FAD8.FAF625C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1FAD8.FAF625C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jesse, Well, you have to consider my reasons. However, deals like this: = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D868183218 make me = understand why so many people were urging me to sell my Roland sampler. = This Yamaha sampler on Ebay with 7 sample CDs sold for $700! Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1FAD8.FAF625C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Jesse,
 
Well, you have to consider my reasons. = However,=20 deals like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D868183218=  make=20 me understand why so many people were urging me to sell my Roland = sampler. This=20 Yamaha sampler on Ebay with 7 sample CDs sold for $700!
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1FAD8.FAF625C0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 14 08:58:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-13172>; Tue, 14 May 2002 08:58:15 -0400 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13172>; Tue, 14 May 2002 08:58:09 -0400 Received: from user-2ive0lr.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.187] helo=mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 177bsH-0006Eo-00; Tue, 14 May 2002 08:57:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3CE10A17.C397C5AE@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 08:59:04 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Well? References: <000c01c1fafa$83020440$0676580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I know what you mean. Those Yamahas have amazing features, including burning their own CDs and reading wav files natively, but does anyone have both a Roland and Yamaha sampler to compare the sounds? From what I've read, there's no comparison - the Roland just sounds so much better. Does anyone know anything about those Yamaha sample CDs? I've never seen them anywhere. Are they proprietary Yamaha format and do they only come with Yamaha samplers? Jesse > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > Hey Jesse, > > Well, you have to consider my reasons. However, deals like this: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=868183218 make me > understand why so many people were urging me to sell my Roland > sampler. This Yamaha sampler on Ebay with 7 sample CDs sold for $700! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 14 16:35:12 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-13172>; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:35:04 -0400 Received: from siaag1ad.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13171>; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:34:59 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id QAA29416 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 14 May 2002 16:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:34:07 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Roland Blowout To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200205141634_MC3-FE13-31D2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk at zzounds.com = ----Forwarded Message(s)---- Roland VP9000 Variphrase Processor Only $999.95 -- Save 70% -- More than $2295 Off! http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLVP9000&a=3Dem051302b21 Roland VP9000 Variphrase Processor (NFS) Only $899.95 -- Save 73% -- More than $2395 Off! http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLVP9000NFS&a=3Dem051302b22 Roland LCDP02 S Series Guitar and Bass Vol. 1 CD-ROM Only $49.95 -- Save 74% -- More than $145 Off! http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDP02&a=3Dem051302b23 Roland LCDP07 S Series Super Sax Vol. 1 CD-ROM Only $49.95 -- Save 74% -- More than $145 Off! *** HURRY - ONLY ONE LEFT *** http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDP07&a=3Dem051302b24 Roland LCDP12 S Series Solo Brass Vol. 1 CD-ROM Only $49.95 -- Save 74% -- More than $145 Off! *** HURRY - ONLY TWO LEFT *** http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDP12&a=3Dem051302b25 Roland LCDX01 Rhythm Section Instruments Sample Disc (NFS) Only $119.95 -- Save 38% -- More than $75 Off! *** HURRY - ONLY ONE LEFT *** http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDX01NFS&a=3Dem051302b26 Roland LCDX04 Strings and Orchestral Persussion Sample Disc (2 Disc Set) = (NFS) Only $159.95 -- Save 46% -- More than $135 Off! *** HURRY - ONLY ONE LEFT *** http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDX04NFS&a=3Dem051302b27 |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 14 17:19:13 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-13171>; Tue, 14 May 2002 17:19:07 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-13172>; Tue, 14 May 2002 17:18:53 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.115.114]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020514211849.EXWD10126.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Tue, 14 May 2002 21:18:49 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c1fb8c$355a7b40$7273580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup What are all of the CD-ROMs in the Roland LCD-P Library? Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:13:33 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1FB6A.AD3C4D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1FB6A.AD3C4D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I'm pretty sure that David Green could probably answer this. I'm curious = to know what all of the entries are in the Roland CD-ROM library. I know = of these so far: LCDP 1 - Drums & Cymbals LCDP 2 - Guitar & Bass LCDP 7 - Super Sax LCDP 13 - String Sections How many did Roland release? Where can I get information on all of them? = What are each of the volumes called? Later, Harold Everton, Jr. www.evertonrecords.com ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1FB6A.AD3C4D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I'm pretty sure that David Green could = probably=20 answer this. I'm curious to know what all of the entries are in the = Roland=20 CD-ROM library. I know of these so far:
 
LCDP 1 - Drums & = Cymbals
LCDP 2 - Guitar & Bass
LCDP 7 - Super Sax
LCDP 13 - String Sections
 
How many did Roland release? Where can = I get=20 information on all of them? What are each of the volumes = called?
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
www.evertonrecords.com<= /DIV>
 
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From owner-sgroup Tue May 14 21:32:41 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-13172>; Tue, 14 May 2002 21:32:32 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13172>; Tue, 14 May 2002 21:32:29 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4F1WI017967 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 14 May 2002 21:32:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.85]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-13172>; Tue, 14 May 2002 18:08:27 -0400 Received: from smtp-relay02-en1.mac.com (smtp-relay02-en1 [10.13.10.225]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g4EM8Mk2011310 for ; Tue, 14 May 2002 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com (asmtp02-qfe3 [10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02-en1.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g4EM8GKs001773 for ; Tue, 14 May 2002 15:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([63.172.79.122]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GW4G5S00.R9Y for ; Tue, 14 May 2002 15:08:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 18:08:16 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup What are all of the CD-ROMs in the Roland LCD-P Library? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <000e01c1fb8c$355a7b40$7273580c@epu1> Message-Id: <1741C56B-6787-11D6-8192-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Harold, Shoot, I think I used to have a list somewhere, but I don't know what=20 happened to it. In any case, note the the LCDX series is just a=20 repackaging of the LCDP, e.g. LCDX-1 "Rhythm Section" has the same=20 content as LCDP-1 and 2 (drums, guitar, bass). I believe there were 4=20 LCDX libraries total, with between 2 and 4 LCDP libraries in each one. -Josh On Tuesday, May 14, 2002, at 03:13 PM, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Hey All, > =A0 > I'm pretty sure that David Green could probably answer this. I'm=20 > curious to know what all of the entries are in the Roland CD-ROM=20 > library. I know of these so far: > =A0 > LCDP 1=A0- Drums & Cymbals > LCDP 2 - Guitar & Bass > LCDP 7 - Super Sax > LCDP 13 - String Sections > =A0 > How many did Roland release? Where can I get information on all of=20 > them? What are each of the volumes called? > =A0 > Later, > Harold Everton, Jr. > www.evertonrecords.com > =A0 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed May 15 23:59:46 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26269>; Wed, 15 May 2002 23:59:39 -0400 Received: from web13103.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-26269>; Wed, 15 May 2002 23:59:33 -0400 Message-ID: <20020516035925.13041.qmail@web13103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.67.56.61] by web13103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 May 2002 20:59:25 PDT Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 23:59:25 -0400 From: DJ boomstick Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <20020424190032.A1506@martin.unix-net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi i found 2 copies of director s for s330 & 1 for the s50 in the wearhouse were i work. full origionals with manualls and everything still shrink wraped from roland. if your interested call 585-544-3500 between 1pm and 9pm est any weekday & ask for jeff. --- Martin Wulff wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Roland S-330 with the latest System and > Utility Software, but > I'm still searching for the "Director-S" sequencer > software. Does > anyone have that? And if, can I get it as a SDisk > image? > end __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu May 16 09:53:31 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26270>; Thu, 16 May 2002 09:53:27 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26269>; Thu, 16 May 2002 09:53:12 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.114.241]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020516135307.YTYD11146.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 16 May 2002 13:53:07 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c1fce0$464538a0$f172580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , References: Subject: sgroup Is Roland going to release anymore CD-ROMs? Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:47:50 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1FCBE.BE270AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1FCBE.BE270AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Well? Do you think Roland will release more CD-ROMs for their XV and S = series machines? Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1FCBE.BE270AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
Well? Do you think Roland will release = more CD-ROMs=20 for their XV and S series machines?
 
Later,
Harold
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From owner-sgroup Thu May 16 10:10:42 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26270>; Thu, 16 May 2002 10:10:32 -0400 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26270>; Thu, 16 May 2002 10:10:22 -0400 Received: from user-2ive1a6.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.70] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 178LxO-0000u4-00; Thu, 16 May 2002 10:10:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3CE3BDEA.ED5CF935@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 10:10:50 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Is Roland going to release anymore CD-ROMs? References: <000b01c1fce0$464538a0$f172580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'd be surprised if they did, since the S-700 samplers are now very old technology. I'd imagine they'll concentrate on the add-in boards for the XV synths - after all you can't illegally copy and distribute the hardware. 8-) I was surprised to read that you have to convert load the Roland sample CDs into the XV synths. Don't the XVs natively support Roland format CDs? If not, what format do they natively support? Jesse > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > Hey All, > > Well? Do you think Roland will release more CD-ROMs for their XV and S > series machines? > > Later, > Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu May 16 11:13:17 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26269>; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:13:08 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26269>; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:13:06 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4GFCtq02876 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 16 May 2002 11:12:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26270>; Thu, 16 May 2002 09:02:21 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-26-188.tnt2.me2.uunet.de [149.225.26.188]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id PAA00182 for ; Thu, 16 May 2002 15:02:16 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3CE3AC7A.1B5FB9B7@cityweb.de> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:56:26 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Almost Free Akai Format Sample CD for your Roland S700 Sampler! References: <5.0.2.1.2.20020511184334.00a4a720@backintimerecords.de> <3CDF9D1F.C7EEA4BA@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse Segovia wrote: > > I located a German sample company who provides an almost free demo CD of > their samples in Akai format, ready to Convert Load into your Roland > S700 series sampler! Thanks for the heads up. Got mine yesterday. What a deal! Re license issues: The description that came with it contained the following text: "Diese CD-ROM können Sie wie jede andere unserer CDs einsetzen. [...] Ohne Einschränkungen, wie man sie sonst von Demos kennt. Selbstverständlich inklusive Nutzungs-Lizenz." Trying to translate that: "You can use this CD-ROM like any other of our CDs. [...] Without limitations, like they are known from other demos. Of course inclusive license to use." If it only wasn't such a PITA to convert-load Akai format here on my setup. Reading the first Akai-Volume from the first partition (Grand Piano Multi) takes about half an hour. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu May 16 14:34:40 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26269>; Thu, 16 May 2002 14:34:31 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26269>; Thu, 16 May 2002 14:34:28 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.131]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020516183422.ISCY19182.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 16 May 2002 18:34:22 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c1fd07$8d8fe260$8350580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Ingo Debus" , "Sampler Group" References: <5.0.2.1.2.20020511184334.00a4a720@backintimerecords.de> <3CDF9D1F.C7EEA4BA@mindspring.com> <3CE3AC7A.1B5FB9B7@cityweb.de> Subject: Re: sgroup Almost Free Akai Format Sample CD for your Roland S700 Sampler! Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:29:00 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Guys, Where was the web address/order form so I could order one of these sample CDs? Thanks, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Ingo Debus To: Sampler Group Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:56 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Almost Free Akai Format Sample CD for your Roland S700 Sampler! Jesse Segovia wrote: > > I located a German sample company who provides an almost free demo CD of > their samples in Akai format, ready to Convert Load into your Roland > S700 series sampler! Thanks for the heads up. Got mine yesterday. What a deal! Re license issues: The description that came with it contained the following text: "Diese CD-ROM können Sie wie jede andere unserer CDs einsetzen. [...] Ohne Einschränkungen, wie man sie sonst von Demos kennt. Selbstverständlich inklusive Nutzungs-Lizenz." Trying to translate that: "You can use this CD-ROM like any other of our CDs. [...] Without limitations, like they are known from other demos. Of course inclusive license to use." If it only wasn't such a PITA to convert-load Akai format here on my setup. Reading the first Akai-Volume from the first partition (Grand Piano Multi) takes about half an hour. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu May 16 14:51:50 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26269>; Thu, 16 May 2002 14:51:45 -0400 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26269>; Thu, 16 May 2002 14:51:34 -0400 Received: from user-2ive1m1.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.6.193] helo=mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 178QLS-00018c-00; Thu, 16 May 2002 14:51:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3CE3FFC2.FCA2EFBF@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:51:46 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Almost Free Akai Format Sample CD for your Roland S700 Sampler! References: <5.0.2.1.2.20020511184334.00a4a720@backintimerecords.de> <3CDF9D1F.C7EEA4BA@mindspring.com> <3CE3AC7A.1B5FB9B7@cityweb.de> <000c01c1fd07$8d8fe260$8350580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Email the fellow at this address: "Klaus P. Rausch" He'll send you the details. $5.00 for shipping. I still haven't heard everything on the CD but what I've heard I really like. Very usable - it sounds like the rest of the collection is quality stuff. By the way, on all three of my Akai format CDs, I lose the Modulation effect on each and every patch when I Convert Load. Is this the case for everyone using Akai format CDs? Jesse "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > Hey Guys, > > Where was the web address/order form so I could order one of these sample > CDs? > > Thanks, > Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 18:29:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 18:29:50 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 18:29:44 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.86.22]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020517222941.RWTE11146.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Fri, 17 May 2002 22:29:41 +0000 Message-ID: <001e01c1fdf1$951f80e0$1656580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup A Sexy Roland setup Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:24:15 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1FDD0.0D121BC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1FDD0.0D121BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, A friend of mine just gave me his scan converter. I used this to hook up = a Flat Screen SVGA monitor. This is real cool. I'm know using the Roland = S760 with the Flat Screen VGA, RC100 as a keyboard input device and a = Zip100 as a CPU like Hard Drive storage system. While I'm not using the = system to do much yet (lack of sample CDs), it looks like I have a = Gigastudio system here in my studio. Just thought I'd share that. 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Hey All,
 
A friend of mine just gave me his scan = converter. I=20 used this to hook up a Flat Screen SVGA monitor. This is real cool. I'm = know=20 using the Roland S760 with the Flat Screen VGA, RC100 as a keyboard = input device=20 and a Zip100 as a CPU like Hard Drive storage system. While I'm not = using the=20 system to do much yet (lack of sample CDs), it looks like I have a = Gigastudio=20 system here in my studio.
 
Just thought I'd share = that.
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1FDD0.0D121BC0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 18:35:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 18:35:16 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 18:35:10 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.86.22]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020517223503.VFZM19182.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 22:35:03 +0000 Message-ID: <002701c1fdf2$55962220$1656580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup test Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:29:38 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. 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From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 19:28:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 19:28:05 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9897>; Fri, 17 May 2002 19:27:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 24331 invoked from network); 17 May 2002 23:27:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 May 2002 23:27:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001e01c1fdf1$951f80e0$1656580c@epu1> References: <001e01c1fdf1$951f80e0$1656580c@epu1> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:29:16 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup A Sexy Roland setup Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >A friend of mine just gave me his scan converter. I used this to >hook up a Flat Screen SVGA monitor. This is real cool. I'm know >using the Roland S760 with the Flat Screen VGA, RC100 as a keyboard >input device and a Zip100 as a CPU like Hard Drive storage system. >While I'm not using the system to do much yet (lack of sample CDs), >it looks like I have a Gigastudio system here in my studio. > >Just thought I'd share that. > >Later, >Harold Hey man that is sweet setup. I have always run the 760 video out into a big 19" or 21" television set, saves space instead of a 2nd monitor (since I have always had a TV/VCR in my studio, for sampling, etc). My partner and I have 2 760's fully loaded with OP-760's, 2 mice, RC100, hard drive, cdrom drive w/practically the entire Roland Sound Library on CD-ROM, zip drives, 2 DA-400's. And a MAC hooked up for Recycle. Needless to say I am not parting with my 760 anytime soon :o) I also had a video card in my mac for a while that would allow me to run the TV into the mac. I had my 760 screen on my MAC desktop right beside protools and studiovision. But it acted funny with the digidesign audio stuff, so I got rid of it. -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 19:32:12 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 19:32:06 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail13.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.213]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 19:31:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 32340 invoked from network); 17 May 2002 23:31:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail13.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 May 2002 23:31:52 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:33:21 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >omz ! >We got your message >on Fri, 17 May 2002 20:29:16 -0400. >With the Subject: >Re: sgroup A Sexy Roland setup >Please remove the bad word from the Subject and send again. what the hell? -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 20:15:44 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9897>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:15:36 -0400 Received: from mail.blarg.net (floyd.blarg.net [206.124.128.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9897>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:15:30 -0400 Received: from maridia.blarg.net (unknown [206.124.140.122]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6867237E56 for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 17:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:15:28 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 05:33 PM 5/17/2002, omz wrote: >>omz ! >>We got your message >>on Fri, 17 May 2002 20:29:16 -0400. >>With the Subject: >>Re: sgroup A Sexy Roland setup >>Please remove the bad word from the Subject and send again. > >what the hell? Weird. The From: address seems to be forged from your own IP, since it resolves to a Speakeasy DSL line. I wonder if I'll get one back based on my own? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 20:20:57 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9897>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:20:53 -0400 Received: from mail.blarg.net (floyd.blarg.net [206.124.128.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9897>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:20:37 -0400 Received: from maridia.blarg.net (unknown [206.124.140.122]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D9737E4A for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 17:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171824.00ba6a00@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:20:37 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 05:15 PM 5/17/2002, Ben Lincoln wrote: >At 05:33 PM 5/17/2002, omz wrote: >>>omz ! >>>We got your message >>>on Fri, 17 May 2002 20:29:16 -0400. >>>With the Subject: >>>Re: sgroup A Sexy Roland setup >>>Please remove the bad word from the Subject and send again. >> >>what the hell? > >Weird. The From: address seems to be forged from your own IP, since it >resolves >to a Speakeasy DSL line. I wonder if I'll get one back based on my own? Yup. Here's the one *I* got: ----------------------------- Delivered-To: blincoln@blarg.net Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:15:58 -0400 X-Autogenerated: Reply From: To: Ben Lincoln Subject: Bad words.. Ben Lincoln ! We got your message <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> on Fri, 17 May 2002 20:15:28 -0400. With the Subject: Re: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup)Please remove the bad word from the Subject and send again. ------------------------------ So who on the list has a picker.com/Philips Medical Systems address and needs to complain to their joker of a system admin or subscribe from their home account? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 20:22:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:22:44 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail14.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.214]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:22:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 20907 invoked from network); 18 May 2002 00:22:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail14.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 May 2002 00:22:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 21:24:07 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >At 05:33 PM 5/17/2002, Ben Lincoln wrote: >>>omz ! >>>We got your message >>>on Fri, 17 May 2002 20:29:16 -0400. >>>With the Subject: >>>Re: sgroup A Sexy Roland setup >>>Please remove the bad word from the Subject and send again. >> >>what the hell? > >Weird. The From: address seems to be forged from your own IP, since >it resolves >to a Speakeasy DSL line. I wonder if I'll get one back based on my own? seems someone is filtering email with 'questionable language.' it bounces back the email, i'm not sure just to me or the whole list. sexy sexy sexy :P -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 20:28:46 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:28:38 -0400 Received: from mail.blarg.net (floyd.blarg.net [206.124.128.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:28:35 -0400 Received: from maridia.blarg.net (unknown [206.124.140.122]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DDD37E56 for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 17:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517172414.00bb2f30@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:28:34 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Sexy teen models pose for sgroup members who buy cheap Viagra online (was sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup)) In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 06:24 PM 5/17/2002, omz wrote: >seems someone is filtering email with 'questionable language.' it bounces >back the email, i'm not sure just to me or the whole list. > >sexy sexy sexy :P Yeah, it appears to be someone who subscribed their work email address, and they work for a medical supplier at picker.com. I wonder if emails that violate their TOS are just discarded, or logged as inappropriate material being sent to that account >=)? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 20:41:11 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9897>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:41:06 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9897>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:40:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 24124 invoked from network); 18 May 2002 00:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 May 2002 00:40:44 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517172414.00bb2f30@mail.blarg.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020517172414.00bb2f30@mail.blarg.net> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 21:42:14 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: Sexy teen models pose for sgroup members who buy cheap Viagra online (was sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >At 06:24 PM 5/17/2002, Ben Lincoln wrote: > >Yeah, it appears to be someone who subscribed their work email >address, and they work for >a medical supplier at picker.com. I wonder if emails that violate >their TOS are just discarded, >or logged as inappropriate material being sent to that account >=)? its extremely annoying whatever the case is... -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 17 20:43:39 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:43:29 -0400 Received: from mail.blarg.net (floyd.blarg.net [206.124.128.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:43:23 -0400 Received: from maridia.blarg.net (unknown [206.124.140.122]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B40D37E67 for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 17:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517174220.03b5f2f8@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:43:16 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: Virtuous nuns proselytize for sgroup members who buy tasteful products online (was sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Demure Roland setup)) In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517172414.00bb2f30@mail.blarg.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171413.00bac5a8@mail.blarg.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020517172414.00bb2f30@mail.blarg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 06:42 PM 5/17/2002, omz wrote: >>At 06:24 PM 5/17/2002, Ben Lincoln wrote: >> >>Yeah, it appears to be someone who subscribed their work email address, >>and they work for >>a medical supplier at picker.com. I wonder if emails that violate their >>TOS are just discarded, >>or logged as inappropriate material being sent to that account >=)? > > >its extremely annoying whatever the case is... No kidding. Whoever it is with the picker.com address, you should subscribe a private one instead of your work email. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 18 03:29:56 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 03:29:49 -0400 Received: from common.se (ns.common.se [212.214.21.209]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 03:29:39 -0400 Received: from WorldClient [127.0.0.1] by common.se [212.214.21.209] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.0.R) for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 09:33:59 +0200 Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 03:33:59 -0400 From: "mans" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WorldClient Standard 3.5.0e In-Reply-To: X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: mans@common.se X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-Id: <2002May18.032939edt.193715-25349@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >>what the hell? > > > >Weird. The From: address seems to be forged from your own IP, since > >it resolves > >to a Speakeasy DSL line. I wonder if I'll get one back based on my > own? > > seems someone is filtering email with 'questionable language.' it > bounces back the email, i'm not sure just to me or the whole list. > > sexy sexy sexy :P Mailfilter triggering is funny huh? :) Does anyone on the list know aproximatly how much to pay for a S-220 ? //Måns - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 18 05:19:02 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 05:18:53 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 05:18:50 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.119]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020518091846.UYHV5116.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 09:18:46 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c1fe4c$43f0aae0$7750580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Sorry Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 05:13:23 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1FE2A.BBEAE6E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1FE2A.BBEAE6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys, Sorry for having the word sexy in the subject line of that other email. = I didn't realize that it would cause that many problems. Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1FE2A.BBEAE6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey guys,
 
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Thanks,
Harold
 
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(was A Sexy Roland setup) In-Reply-To: <2002May18.032939edt.193715-25349@hugin.uunet.ca> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 12:33 AM 5/18/2002, mans wrote: >Mailfilter triggering is funny huh? :) >Does anyone on the list know aproximatly how much to pay for a S-220 ? That one uses QuikDisks, doesn't it? Personally I wouldn't pay more than US$100 for *anything* that uses QuikDisks, just because they're so hard and expensive to track down, and they hold so little. I had an Akai S700 briefly, and it took a month or two to find the disks at all, and when I did they were US$10 apiece... and they only hold one 64k sample =). Is the seller including a library? That would be cool. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 18 11:56:35 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-25350>; Sat, 18 May 2002 11:56:25 -0400 Received: from mail.blarg.net (floyd.blarg.net [206.124.128.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-25350>; Sat, 18 May 2002 11:56:10 -0400 Received: from maridia.blarg.net (unknown [206.124.140.122]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F220C37EAD for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 08:56:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020518085534.00bb1f40@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 11:56:00 -0400 To: From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup Sorry In-Reply-To: <001d01c1fe4c$43f0aae0$7750580c@epu1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 02:13 AM 5/18/2002, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >Sorry for having the word sexy in the subject line of that other email. I >didn't realize that it would cause that many problems. Well, it's not really your fault, it's the fault of whoever set up the rabid email filter. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 18 12:15:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 12:15:15 -0400 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 12:15:12 -0400 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.137.e4bebf9 (3956) for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 12:14:55 -0400 (EDT) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <137.e4bebf9.2a17d7fe@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:14:54 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup) To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The Smith Corona type writers uses Quik Disks as well so your chances of finding them are a little better. The Roland S-10 series also use these Quik Disks. Dave >>At 12:33 AM 5/18/2002, mans wrote: >Mailfilter triggering is funny huh? :) >Does anyone on the list know aproximatly how much to pay for a S-220 ? That one uses QuikDisks, doesn't it? Personally I wouldn't pay more than US$100 for *anything* that uses QuikDisks, just because they're so hard and expensive to track down, and they hold so little. I had an Akai S700 briefly, and it took a month or two to find the disks at all, and when I did they were US$10 apiece... and they only hold one 64k sample =). Is the seller including a library? That would be cool.<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 18 12:25:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 12:25:14 -0400 Received: from mail.blarg.net (floyd.blarg.net [206.124.128.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 12:25:08 -0400 Received: from maridia.blarg.net (unknown [206.124.140.122]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46E537E62 for ; Sat, 18 May 2002 09:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020518092203.00bb7f48@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:24:57 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup) In-Reply-To: <137.e4bebf9.2a17d7fe@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 09:14 AM 5/18/2002, DAJA300@aol.com wrote: >The Smith Corona type writers uses Quik Disks as well so your chances of >finding them are a little better. The Roland S-10 series also use these Quik >Disks. Yeah, that's how I ended up getting some for my S700, was calling a corporate office supply place, basically implying that I was working from home and that I had an SC typewriter, because they didn't sell for values of <$100 or whatever generally. I guess it used to be possible to find them at Office Depot or what have you, but that was not my experience. Really, though, I would recommend an S-330 over an S-220, because the media is easier to find, and it won't turn your wallet into a black hole =). - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 18 19:10:44 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 19:10:37 -0400 Received: from snowstorm.mail.pipex.net ([158.43.192.97]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-25349>; Sat, 18 May 2002 19:10:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 4003 invoked from network); 18 May 2002 23:10:31 -0000 Received: from usercd168.dsl.pipex.com (HELO abit) (62.190.235.168) by smtp-5.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 18 May 2002 23:10:31 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: FW: sgroup What are all of the CD-ROMs in the Roland LCD-P Library? Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 19:10:31 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1FEC9.968D78A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1FEC9.968D78A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Harold, In answer to your question and AFAIK the list is; L-CD-701: Rhythm Section Vol. 1 L-CD-702: Orchestral Family Vol.1 & 2 Composer Series L-CDC-01: Jazz Vol. 1 Project Series L-CDP-01: Drums & Cymbals Vol.1 L-CDP-02: Guitar & Bass Vol. 2 L-CDP-03: Orchestral Percussion Vol.1 L-CDP-04: Orchestral Winds Vol. 1 L-CDP-05: Solo Strings Vol. 1 L-CDP-06: Brass Selections Vol. 1 L-CDP-07: Super Sax Vol. 1 L-CDP-08: Symphony Orchestra Vol. 1 L-CDP-09: Keyboards of the 60's & 70's Vol. 1 L-CDP-10: Keyboards of the 60's & 70's Vol 2 L-CDP-11: Africa Vol. 1 L-CDP-12: Solo Brass Vol. 1 L-CDP-13: String Sections Vol. 1 L-CDP-14: Africa Vol. 2 SV-SP70-01: Roland Library Preview Disc This disc contains selections from the following Roland Sample Archives; Roland Rhythm Section Vol. 1 Orchestral Family Vol.1 & 2 Project Series L-CDP-01-13 Composer Series L-CDC-01 It also contains selections from third party developers such as; Northstar: Drumscapes Prosonus: Orchestral Strings Club 50: Foundations Q Up Arts: Sonic Images The Producers Sound Effects Library: Composers Collection East/West: Dance / Industrial East/West: Bob Clearmountain Drums East/West: The Denny Jaeger Master Violin Library AMG: Rhythm of Life AMG: Funky Drums From Hell There are also some newer CD's which were released mainly for the XV5080 which include samples taken from the L-CDP series for the S-Series samplers; L-CDX01: Rhythm Instruments (Drums & Cymbals Vol. 1/Guitar & Bass Vol. 1) L-CDX02: Keyboard Instruments (Keyboards of the 60's & 70's Vol.1 & 2) L-CDX03: Brass & Woodwinds (Orchestral Winds/Brass Sections/Super Sax/Solo Brass on two CD-ROMS) L-CDX04: Strings & Orchestral Percussion (Orchestral Percussion/Solo Strings/Symphony Orchestra/String Sections on two CD-ROMS) If anyone has any (or all :-) of the following discs available I would be very interested to buy them - please email me and let me know - thanks! L-CDP-03: Orchestral Percussion Vol.1 L-CDP-06: Brass Selections Vol. 1 L-CDP-10: Keyboards of the 60's & 70's Vol 2 L-CDP-11: Africa Vol. 1 L-CD-702: Orchestral Family Vol.1 & 2 I myself have the following available and would gladly trade/exchange for any of my wanted discs; L-CD-701: Rhythm Section Vol. 1 SV-SP70-01: Roland Library Preview Disc If there are any more genuine Roland S-Series sample CD-ROMS I would like to know! Regards, -=Glyn=- -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: 14 May 2002 22:14 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com Subject: sgroup What are all of the CD-ROMs in the Roland LCD-P Library? Hey All, I'm pretty sure that David Green could probably answer this. I'm curious to know what all of the entries are in the Roland CD-ROM library. I know of these so far: LCDP 1 - Drums & Cymbals LCDP 2 - Guitar & Bass LCDP 7 - Super Sax LCDP 13 - String Sections How many did Roland release? Where can I get information on all of them? What are each of the volumes called? Later, Harold Everton, Jr. www.evertonrecords.com ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1FEC9.968D78A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Harold,
 
In=20 answer to your question and AFAIK the list = is;
 
L-CD-701: Rhythm Section Vol. 1
L-CD-702: Orchestral Family Vol.1 & 2
 
Composer Series
L-CDC-01: Jazz Vol. 1
 
Project Series
L-CDP-01: Drums & Cymbals Vol.1
L-CDP-02: Guitar & Bass Vol. 2
L-CDP-03: Orchestral Percussion Vol.1
L-CDP-04: Orchestral Winds Vol. 1
L-CDP-05: Solo Strings Vol. 1
L-CDP-06: Brass Selections Vol. 1
L-CDP-07: Super Sax Vol. 1
L-CDP-08: Symphony Orchestra Vol. 1
L-CDP-09: Keyboards of the 60's & 70's Vol. = 1
L-CDP-10: Keyboards of the 60's & 70's Vol = 2
L-CDP-11: Africa Vol. 1
L-CDP-12: Solo Brass Vol. 1
L-CDP-13: String Sections Vol. 1
L-CDP-14: Africa Vol. 2
 
SV-SP70-01: Roland Library Preview Disc
This=20 disc contains selections from the following Roland Sample=20 Archives;
Roland=20 Rhythm Section Vol. 1
Orchestral Family Vol.1 & 2
Project Series L-CDP-01-13
Composer Series L-CDC-01
It=20 also contains selections from third party developers such=20 as;
Northstar: Drumscapes
Prosonus: Orchestral Strings
Club=20 50: Foundations
Q Up=20 Arts: Sonic Images
The=20 Producers Sound Effects Library: Composers = Collection
East/West: Dance / Industrial
East/West: Bob Clearmountain Drums
East/West: The Denny Jaeger Master Violin = Library
AMG:=20 Rhythm of Life
AMG:=20 Funky Drums From Hell
 
There=20 are also some newer CD's which were released mainly for the XV5080=20 which include samples taken from the L-CDP series for the = S-Series=20 samplers;
 
L-CDX01: Rhythm Instruments (Drums & Cymbals Vol. 1/Guitar = & Bass=20 Vol. 1)
L-CDX02: Keyboard Instruments (Keyboards of the 60's & 70's = Vol.1=20 & 2)
L-CDX03: Brass & Woodwinds (Orchestral Winds/Brass = Sections/Super=20 Sax/Solo Brass on two CD-ROMS)
L-CDX04: Strings & Orchestral Percussion (Orchestral = Percussion/Solo=20 Strings/Symphony Orchestra/String Sections on two = CD-ROMS)
 
If=20 anyone has any (or all :-) of the following discs available I would be = very=20 interested to buy them - please email me and let me know -=20 thanks!
 
L-CDP-03: Orchestral Percussion Vol.1
L-CDP-06: Brass Selections Vol. 1
L-CDP-10: Keyboards of the 60's & 70's Vol = 2
L-CDP-11: Africa Vol. 1
L-CD-702: Orchestral Family Vol.1 & 2
 
I=20 myself have the following available and would gladly trade/exchange for = any of=20 my wanted discs;
 
L-CD-701: Rhythm Section Vol. 1
SV-SP70-01: Roland Library Preview = Disc
 
If there are any more genuine = Roland=20 S-Series sample CD-ROMS I would like to know!
 
Regards,
-=3DGlyn=3D-
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold = Everton,=20 Jr.
Sent: 14 May 2002 22:14
To: = sgroup@lists.uunet.ca;=20 Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com
Subject: sgroup What are all = of the=20 CD-ROMs in the Roland LCD-P Library?

Hey All,
 
I'm pretty sure that David Green = could probably=20 answer this. I'm curious to know what all of the entries are in the = Roland=20 CD-ROM library. I know of these so far:
 
LCDP 1 - Drums & = Cymbals
LCDP 2 - Guitar & = Bass
LCDP 7 - Super Sax
LCDP 13 - String = Sections
 
How many did Roland release? Where = can I get=20 information on all of them? What are each of the volumes = called?
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
www.evertonrecords.com<= /DIV>
 
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C1FEC9.968D78A0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat May 18 22:27:31 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25350>; Sat, 18 May 2002 22:27:24 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25350>; Sat, 18 May 2002 22:27:17 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.225]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020519022712.SMUM11146.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 02:27:12 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c1fedb$ecec8120$e152580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup This is no joke! Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 22:21:45 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1FEBA.64DF1C00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1FEBA.64DF1C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone, I just thought some of you may get a kick out this. I was scanning ebay = and caught someone selling a whole rack of 15 Roland S760s with the = monitor, SCSI switching system and others for around $6000! The guy has = pics, so I thought some of you may be interested in checking out his = setup. Here's the link: = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D872915464 Have fun checking it out, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1FEBA.64DF1C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey everyone,
 
I just thought some of you may get a = kick out this.=20 I was scanning ebay and caught someone selling a whole rack of 15 Roland = S760s=20 with the monitor, SCSI switching system and others for around $6000! The = guy has=20 pics, so I thought some of you may be interested in checking out his=20 setup.
 
Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D872915464=
 
Have fun checking it out,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1FEBA.64DF1C00-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 19 18:35:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-17210>; Sun, 19 May 2002 18:35:13 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17210>; Sun, 19 May 2002 18:35:03 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4ICLxX92547 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 18 May 2002 08:21:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bph.elan.net ([216.151.192.209]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9898>; Fri, 17 May 2002 20:30:49 -0400 Received: from rocketparkmusic.com (adsl-64-123-57-209.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [64.123.57.209]) by bph.elan.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12130 for ; Fri, 17 May 2002 19:24:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3CE5A18B.67D2171D@rocketparkmusic.com> Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:34:19 -0400 From: Brian Andrew Marek Organization: Rocket Park X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Recommendations? References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171824.00ba6a00@mail.blarg.net> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Okay, I've been a member of the list and a member of the "S club" for several years now, and I own both the lowly S-10 (I still think it's great for some intentionally lo-fi things - I'm recording my band's new album right now and I've already used it for some drum loops and sampled a chord on my Les Paul for one song) and the middling S-550... now I'm pondering whether I should take a great leap into the unknown.  What I'd really like is a nice, powerful sampler than I can both use to create my own samples (if I wish) and have wide access to commercial CD rom's from.  It is my understanding that the S-760 can convert the industry standard Akai format samples... does it just import the raw sounds (requiring you to still do your own looping, editing, et cetera) or is it fairly "plug and play"?  For instance, if I was fortunate enough to get ahold of a copy of the fabled "Mike Pinder Presents the Mellotron" CD ROM (drool, drool, drool), could I just load it and play it?  Or would there be extra hassles involved?  And if there WOULD be extra hassles involved, what would be a good deck to get to make my life easier?

Thanks

BaM

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From owner-sgroup Sun May 19 20:40:54 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-17209>; Sun, 19 May 2002 20:40:46 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17210>; Sun, 19 May 2002 20:40:41 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4K0eaQ63003 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 May 2002 20:40:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bph.elan.net ([216.151.192.209]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25350>; Sat, 18 May 2002 13:44:19 -0400 Received: from rocketparkmusic.com (adsl-65-64-138-164.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.64.138.164]) by bph.elan.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18489; Sat, 18 May 2002 12:38:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3CE6940E.C3D1E6C4@rocketparkmusic.com> Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 13:49:03 -0400 From: Brian Andrew Marek Organization: Rocket Park X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Lincoln CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup) References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020518085219.00ba9b78@mail.blarg.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ben Lincoln wrote: > That one uses QuikDisks, doesn't it? Personally I wouldn't pay > more than > US$100 for *anything* that uses QuikDisks, just because they're so hard and > expensive to track down, and they hold so little. Actually, I know a guy from another list who's trying to puzzle out how to replace a QD drive with a standard 3.5" drive. Sounds daunting, but this guy sounds like he definitely has some tech know-how, and is poring over the notes of a guy who did a similar conversion with an obsolete PC that used QD's. The guy needs the schematics for an S-10 if anybody has them, so let me know! BaM -- Find out more about Rocket Park at our web page: http://www.rocketparkmusic.com/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 19 23:20:24 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-17210>; Sun, 19 May 2002 23:20:16 -0400 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17210>; Sun, 19 May 2002 23:20:05 -0400 Received: from user-2ive2q7.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.11.71] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 179di2-0008EJ-00; Sun, 19 May 2002 23:19:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3CE86B6B.909E3353@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:20:11 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Andrew Marek , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Recommendations? References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020517171824.00ba6a00@mail.blarg.net> <3CE5A18B.67D2171D@rocketparkmusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I started out with an S-10. It was a very nice unit with some very obvious limitations. In my experience (everyone else, please jump in!) when you Convert Load an Akai format CD you get everything major like sample loops and keyboard mapping, but I haven't been able to get the Modulation control to work. So when I Convert Load a nice Hammond organ sample, I reach for the Modulation lever to imitate a Leslie and ... nothing happens! Aftertouch is broken on my MIDI controller right now so I don't know if that works or not. I don't know if Modulation is set to anything or not on the Mike Pinder Mellotron CD but it's very nice to have on just about everything else and I miss it. When I actually start recording with my Akai CDs I'm sure I'll be able to just go in and set up the Modulation control myself (every time I load in the samples) but it's kind of a pain in the neck - I haven't checked yet but I don't think you get any Mod settings whatsoever with Convert Load so I have no idea how the original CD was set up. Jesse Brian Andrew Marek wrote: > It is my understanding that the S-760 can > convert the industry standard Akai format samples... does it just > import the raw sounds (requiring you to still do your own looping, > editing, et cetera) or is it fairly "plug and play"? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 20 00:17:03 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-10058>; Mon, 20 May 2002 00:16:58 -0400 Received: from mail.blarg.net (floyd.blarg.net [206.124.128.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10058>; Mon, 20 May 2002 00:16:43 -0400 Received: from maridia.blarg.net (unknown [206.124.140.122]) by mail.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B58637EBE for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 21:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020519211344.00ba99b8@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 00:16:34 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup ha ha Re: Bad words.. (was A Sexy Roland setup) In-Reply-To: <3CE6940E.C3D1E6C4@rocketparkmusic.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020518085219.00ba9b78@mail.blarg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 10:49 AM 5/18/2002, Brian Andrew Marek wrote: >Actually, I know a guy from another list who's trying to puzzle out how to >replace a QD drive with a standard 3.5" drive. Sounds daunting, but this guy >sounds like he definitely has some tech know-how, and is poring over the notes >of a guy who did a similar conversion with an obsolete PC that used QD's. The >guy needs the schematics for an S-10 if anybody has them, so let me know! Wow, that would be a pretty big overhaul =). Different floppy controller, different driver software, different code for the OS, different size chassis for the drive... it would be cool if he gets it up and running, but it would involve replacing like half the sampler. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 20 22:26:49 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-10058>; Mon, 20 May 2002 22:26:41 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10058>; Mon, 20 May 2002 22:26:31 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4L2QKN25441 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 20 May 2002 22:26:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bph.elan.net ([216.151.192.209]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10058>; Mon, 20 May 2002 20:04:44 -0400 Received: from rocketparkmusic.com (adsl-65-64-136-217.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net [65.64.136.217]) by bph.elan.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04132 for ; Mon, 20 May 2002 18:58:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3CE9904C.525BD883@rocketparkmusic.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:09:48 -0400 From: Brian Andrew Marek Organization: Rocket Park X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup S-10 samples Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey, I just noticed something alarming, recently: The two sources for S-10 patches on the web are no longer there! Li'l Chips deleted that part of their site, and there was a site in, I think, Finland or something whose entire server is gone now... and I don't see any S-10 patches in the sgroup archive! Now, I know it's a lowly, entry-level piece o' crud, but I think it's a shame that all sources for patches have disappeared off the Internet... I have a few patches, but I'm fairly certain I don't have the complete collection. However, I'd be glad to upload what I have. Does anybody have a more complete set of the original Roland S-10 patches + some other fun stuff? BaM -- Find out more about Rocket Park at our web page: http://www.rocketparkmusic.com/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 14:36:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 14:36:13 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 14:36:03 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4LIZbr70973; Tue, 21 May 2002 14:35:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:35:37 -0400 From: John Sellens Message-Id: <200205211835.g4LIZbr70973@gc0.generalconcepts.com> To: bmarek@rocketparkmusic.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-10 samples Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'll check my archives, but I don't think I stashed a copy of the Li'l Chips site. :-( If anyone has S-10 patches stashed away that they can get online somehow, I'd be happy to add them to the sgroup archive. (Hmmm - does the S-10 do sample dumps over MIDI? Or how would one get the disks read? Hmmm ...) Cheers John jsellens@generalconcepts.com | From sgroup-owner@hugin.uunet.ca Mon May 20 22:29:26 2002 | Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:09:48 -0400 | From: Brian Andrew Marek | Organization: Rocket Park | X-Accept-Language: en | To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca | Subject: sgroup S-10 samples | | Hey, I just noticed something alarming, recently: The two sources for | S-10 patches on the web are no longer there! Li'l Chips deleted that | part of their site, and there was a site in, I think, Finland or | something whose entire server is gone now... and I don't see any S-10 | patches in the sgroup archive! Now, I know it's a lowly, entry-level | piece o' crud, but I think it's a shame that all sources for patches | have disappeared off the Internet... I have a few patches, but I'm | fairly certain I don't have the complete collection. However, I'd be | glad to upload what I have. Does anybody have a more complete set of | the original Roland S-10 patches + some other fun stuff? | | BaM | | -- | Find out more about Rocket Park at our web page: | http://www.rocketparkmusic.com/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 14:55:08 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 14:55:03 -0400 Received: from intmailvw02.lear.com ([63.68.228.222]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 14:54:52 -0400 Received: from 10.0.4.95 by intmailvw02.lear.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 21 May 2002 14:54:42 -0400 Received: by inet-imc-01.headquarters.lear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 21 May 2002 14:54:41 -0400 Message-ID: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DBC3381@oakville.oakville.lear.com> From: "Gallagher, Jon" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup S-10 samples Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:45:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yamaha used to make a MIDI Filer (The MDF-1, I believe) that supported MIDI sys-ex dumps and stored the info on those horrible little QD's..not sure if it's really relevant in this application,but you could probably pick one up cheaply if it would work. Heck, you may be using one for a doorstop or paperweight as we speak! J > -----Original Message----- > From: John Sellens [SMTP:jsellens@generalconcepts.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:36 PM > To: bmarek@rocketparkmusic.com; sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup S-10 samples > > I'll check my archives, but I don't think I stashed a copy > of the Li'l Chips site. :-( > > If anyone has S-10 patches stashed away that they can get online > somehow, I'd be happy to add them to the sgroup archive. > > (Hmmm - does the S-10 do sample dumps over MIDI? Or how would one > get the disks read? Hmmm ...) > > > Cheers > > John > jsellens@generalconcepts.com > > > | From sgroup-owner@hugin.uunet.ca Mon May 20 22:29:26 2002 > | Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:09:48 -0400 > | From: Brian Andrew Marek > | Organization: Rocket Park > | X-Accept-Language: en > | To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > | Subject: sgroup S-10 samples > | > | Hey, I just noticed something alarming, recently: The two sources for > | S-10 patches on the web are no longer there! Li'l Chips deleted that > | part of their site, and there was a site in, I think, Finland or > | something whose entire server is gone now... and I don't see any S-10 > | patches in the sgroup archive! Now, I know it's a lowly, entry-level > | piece o' crud, but I think it's a shame that all sources for patches > | have disappeared off the Internet... I have a few patches, but I'm > | fairly certain I don't have the complete collection. However, I'd be > | glad to upload what I have. Does anybody have a more complete set of > | the original Roland S-10 patches + some other fun stuff? > | > | BaM > | > | -- > | Find out more about Rocket Park at our web page: > | http://www.rocketparkmusic.com/ > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 16:41:15 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:41:09 -0400 Received: from richardson.uni2.net ([130.227.52.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:41:02 -0400 Received: from s180499 (p454-119.ppp.get2net.dk [195.47.133.247]) by richardson.uni2.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g4LKegh12721; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:40:42 +0200 Message-ID: <000b01c20107$dd77a5c0$f7852fc3@s180499> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars-Peder_Nyrup_B=F8gh?= To: "John Sellens" , , References: <200205211835.g4LIZbr70973@gc0.generalconcepts.com> Subject: Sv: sgroup S-10 samples Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:41:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yes indeed the S10 does MIDI sampledump, and once you have tryed it it's = not that bad. - It's so easy and "fast" that I think it should be = posible to live without QD's AT ALL!! - Dump a couple of samples in your = S10 and fire up a few riffs or to and yr going!... Well what do you = do, here it comes: SysEx must be ON! Press F1 and MIDI on the S10 and chose to transmit = from the S10 or chose to receve. Remember that there is 16 MIDI chanals.... It's IMPORTANT that you know = which midi-chanel the S10 was transmitting on when it dumped the data. Maybe I've got some S10 dumps somewhere... It might even be the ones you = are looking fore... I don't recall where I've got them right now... with kinde regards, Lars-Peder Nyrup. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Sellens To: ; Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: Re: sgroup S-10 samples > I'll check my archives, but I don't think I stashed a copy > of the Li'l Chips site. :-( >=20 > If anyone has S-10 patches stashed away that they can get online > somehow, I'd be happy to add them to the sgroup archive. >=20 > (Hmmm - does the S-10 do sample dumps over MIDI? Or how would one > get the disks read? Hmmm ...) >=20 >=20 > Cheers >=20 > John > jsellens@generalconcepts.com >=20 >=20 > | From sgroup-owner@hugin.uunet.ca Mon May 20 22:29:26 2002 > | Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:09:48 -0400 > | From: Brian Andrew Marek > | Organization: Rocket Park > | X-Accept-Language: en > | To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > | Subject: sgroup S-10 samples > |=20 > | Hey, I just noticed something alarming, recently: The two sources = for > | S-10 patches on the web are no longer there! Li'l Chips deleted = that > | part of their site, and there was a site in, I think, Finland or > | something whose entire server is gone now... and I don't see any = S-10 > | patches in the sgroup archive! Now, I know it's a lowly, = entry-level > | piece o' crud, but I think it's a shame that all sources for patches > | have disappeared off the Internet... I have a few patches, but I'm > | fairly certain I don't have the complete collection. However, I'd = be > | glad to upload what I have. Does anybody have a more complete set = of > | the original Roland S-10 patches + some other fun stuff? > |=20 > | BaM > |=20 > | -- > | Find out more about Rocket Park at our web page: > | http://www.rocketparkmusic.com/ >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 >=20 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 16:57:42 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:57:35 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:57:24 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4LKvLa82663 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:57:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web12302.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:34:02 -0400 Message-ID: <20020521203351.14210.qmail@web12302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.128.98.3] by web12302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 May 2002 13:33:51 PDT Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:33:51 -0400 From: Dharma Bummer Subject: sgroup Good news on the S-10 front... To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk First of all, I heard from the guy at Li'l Chips. He says he had contributed all his S-10 stuff to "a major music site", but had apparently not been posted yet. He will see what he can throw my way... Now, this is interesting - I've been experimenting with "the Wayback Machine", a site that archives web sites... it appears that it attempted to store the zip files of S-10 patches from the old "S-10 archive", but though the zip files are there, WinZip is seeing them as corrupted... any clue what could be up with that? http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.lpg.fi/S-10* BaM ===== This message has been brought to you by the little ASCII art duck who never stopped complaining: o< THIS SUCKS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! 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From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 16:57:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:57:50 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:57:34 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4LKvVQ82672 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:57:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web12303.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.101]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 16:45:53 -0400 Message-ID: <20020521204549.67082.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.128.98.3] by web12303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 May 2002 13:45:49 PDT Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:45:49 -0400 From: Dharma Bummer Subject: Re: Sv: sgroup S-10 samples To: "Lars-Peder_Nyrup_Bøgh" , John Sellens , bmarek@rocketparkmusic.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <000b01c20107$dd77a5c0$f7852fc3@s180499> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --- Lars-Peder_Nyrup_Bøgh wrote: > Yes indeed the S10 does MIDI sampledump, and once > you have tryed it it's not that bad. - It's so easy > and "fast" that I think it should be posible to live > without QD's AT ALL!! - Dump a couple of samples in > your S10 and fire up a few riffs or to and yr > going!... Well what do you do, here it comes: > SysEx must be ON! Best program for dumping to/from an S-10: http://members.lycos.nl/s10manager/ BaM ===== This message has been brought to you by the little ASCII art duck who never stopped complaining: o< THIS SUCKS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 19:24:40 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 19:24:31 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 19:24:28 -0400 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.1a3.298d405 (3956) for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 19:24:25 -0400 (EDT) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <1a3.298d405.2a1c3129@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 19:24:25 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup S-10 samples To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I got some buried in my storage. Whenever I get a chance I won't mind uploading them. When? Good question. Don't know yet. Is that machine [S10] 12bit? Dave >> I'll check my archives, but I don't think I stashed a copy of the Li'l Chips site. :-( If anyone has S-10 patches stashed away that they can get online somehow, I'd be happy to add them to the sgroup archive. (Hmmm - does the S-10 do sample dumps over MIDI? Or how would one get the disks read? Hmmm ...) Cheers John jsellens@generalconcepts.com | From sgroup-owner@hugin.uunet.ca Mon May 20 22:29:26 2002 | Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:09:48 -0400 | From: Brian Andrew Marek | Organization: Rocket Park | X-Accept-Language: en | To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca | Subject: sgroup S-10 samples | | Hey, I just noticed something alarming, recently: The two sources for | S-10 patches on the web are no longer there! Li'l Chips deleted that | part of their site, and there was a site in, I think, Finland or | something whose entire server is gone now... and I don't see any S-10 | patches in the sgroup archive! Now, I know it's a lowly, entry-level | piece o' crud, but I think it's a shame that all sources for patches | have disappeared off the Internet... I have a few patches, but I'm | fairly certain I don't have the complete collection. However, I'd be | glad to upload what I have. Does anybody have a more complete set of | the original Roland S-10 patches + some other fun stuff? | | BaM | | -- | Find out more about Rocket Park at our web page: | http://www.rocketparkmusic.com/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 19:56:59 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 19:56:51 -0400 Received: from siaag1ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 19:56:41 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id TAA17092 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 May 2002 19:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 19:56:09 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Good news on the S-10 front... To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200205211956_MC3-FEF9-F2CE@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Now, this is interesting - I've been experimenting with "the Wayback >Machine", a site that archives web sites... it appears that it attempte= d to >store the zip files of S-10 patches from the old "S-10 archive", but though >the zip files are there, WinZip is seeing them as corrupted... any clue= what If I use DOS pkzipfix on these corrupted ZIP files, I can get SXY files o= ut of the archive. They may be fine, but I have no s10 to test em on. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 20:44:55 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 20:44:47 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 20:44:44 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.97.117]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020522004442.EKQY11146.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 00:44:42 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c20129$153b7420$7561580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Getting the most out of the S760. Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:39:06 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C20107.8D4FA0C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C20107.8D4FA0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I got that German sample CD that you guys were talking about today. The = sounds are okay at best, but it's still refreshing to add more sounds to = the ever expanding library. Speaking of Akai formatted CDs, I wonder if = there are any ways to decrease (speed up) loading times. My theory would = be, the faster the drive, the faster the loading time of the Akai CD. = Would this be true in practice. Case in point, the Commodore 1571 drive would load up stuff on the = Commodore 128 6x faster than the original Commodore 1541. However, when = the 1571 was loading original C64 programs, it would slow its speed down = to the original 1541 speed. Get my analogy? Would this be the way the = S760 loads Akai samples - at a set speed? I was wondering if someone with a 80x drive would be able to load Akai = programs as fast as it would take to load Roland programs w/ a 8x drive = per say. Anyone have a clue about this? Since Roland formatted CDs seems = to be supported by almost no one except Ilio (and let's see how long = that lasts), Akai may just have to be the way to go. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C20107.8D4FA0C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey All,
 
I got that German sample CD that you = guys were=20 talking about today. The sounds are okay at best, but it's still = refreshing to=20 add more sounds to the ever expanding library. Speaking of Akai = formatted CDs, I=20 wonder if there are any ways to decrease (speed up) loading times. My = theory=20 would be, the faster the drive, the faster the loading time of the Akai = CD.=20 Would this be true in practice.
 
Case in point, the Commodore 1571 drive = would load=20 up stuff on the Commodore 128 6x faster than the original Commodore = 1541.=20 However, when the 1571 was loading original C64 programs, it would slow = its=20 speed down to the original 1541 speed. Get my analogy? Would this be the = way the=20 S760 loads Akai samples - at a set speed?
 
I was wondering if someone with a 80x = drive would=20 be able to load Akai programs as fast as it would take to load Roland = programs=20 w/ a 8x drive per say. Anyone have a clue about this? Since Roland = formatted CDs=20 seems to be supported by almost no one except Ilio (and let's see how = long that=20 lasts), Akai may just have to be the way to go.
 
Later,
Harold
 
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From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 22:29:06 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:28:56 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:28:50 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4M2Sdt87217 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:28:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au ([203.25.148.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 20:51:38 -0400 Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id g4M0pSXt001048 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 10:51:28 +1000 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.254] (ppp105.adsl89.pacific.net.au [202.7.89.105]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id KAA13059 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 10:51:27 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:04:09 -0400 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Getting the most out of the S760. Message-ID: <172500232.1022065449@[192.168.0.11]> In-Reply-To: <000a01c20129$153b7420$7561580c@epu1> References: <000a01c20129$153b7420$7561580c@epu1> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > Speaking of Akai formatted CDs, I wonder if > there are any ways to decrease (speed up) loading times. My theory would > be, the faster the drive, the faster the loading time of the Akai CD. > Would this be true in practice. I'd be surprised if it were true. I think the main delay is due to the S-760 interpreting and reprocessing the Akai data into its own format. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 22:29:34 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:29:22 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27913>; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:29:07 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4M2T2O87226 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:29:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au ([203.25.148.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 20:56:19 -0400 Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id g4M0uGXt001935 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 10:56:17 +1000 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.254] (ppp105.adsl89.pacific.net.au [202.7.89.105]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id KAA17698 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 10:56:16 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:08:58 -0400 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-10 samples Message-ID: <172789067.1022065738@[192.168.0.11]> In-Reply-To: <1a3.298d405.2a1c3129@aol.com> References: <1a3.298d405.2a1c3129@aol.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > I got some buried in my storage. Whenever I get a chance I won't mind > uploading them. When? Good question. Don't know yet. Is that machine > [S10] 12bit? Yes, it is. I don't know what was on the Li'l Chips site - I think I grabbed a copy of what was on the Finnish site. I remember I contributed some stuff there, but the other contributers had much more than I did. I never did get to hear any of it, because the sample playback circuitry in my S-10 died. It still functions as a basic MIDI controller though - in fact it's still the only keyboard I own. I like the feel of it, even if the MIDI implementation is lacking (no aftertouch etc.). Oh, and the modulation/pitch bend is broken, too. What a sad little keyboard. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 21 22:31:45 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:31:36 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:31:26 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4M2VMw87336 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:31:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.85]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27914>; Tue, 21 May 2002 22:22:32 -0400 Received: from smtp-relay02-en1.mac.com (smtp-relay02-en1 [10.13.10.225]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g4M2MUk2000801 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 19:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3 [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay02-en1.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g4M2MPKs025641 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 19:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([63.227.43.78]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GWHQLC00.V5E for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 19:22:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:22:26 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Getting the most out of the S760. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <000a01c20129$153b7420$7561580c@epu1> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Harold, =46rom what I understand (and I may very well be wrong), the S760 will=20= only work with rather old and slow CD-ROM drives. In any case, SCSI=20 CD-ROM drives are hard to find these days, and most are used,=20 new-old-stock, or refurb slow stuff. Perhaps another approach is to take a scrap 700MB hard drive and do a=20 raw copy from the Akai to the hard drive. (Use "dd" on Linux or=20 whatever.) Stick this on the SCSI chain and the Roland should (maybe?)=20= allow you to convert load from it. Then you could do all your importing,=20= saving to native Roland format on another hard drive, etc., and then=20 raw-copy the next Akai CD to your temp drive. Later, take your Roland=20 drive and burn a CD from it. The only issue is that I don't know if the convert process is I/O-bound=20= or not -- i.e. is it really the CD that makes the process slow? It could=20= entirely be the CPU on the S760 chugging away, moving bits around, in=20 which case the fastest CD-ROM on the planet wouldn't buy you anything.=20= But if it's because the Roland is seeking the CD all the time (very=20 slow), then putting the Akai data on a hard drive would make a world of=20= difference. Personally, I must admit, I took the plunge and went software about a=20 week ago. I'm not selling my S760 or anything, but at the moment it's=20 not plugged in. :( -Josh On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 06:39 PM, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Hey All, > =A0 > I got that German sample CD that you guys were talking about today. = The=20 > sounds are okay at best, but it's still refreshing to add more sounds=20= > to the ever expanding library. Speaking of Akai formatted CDs, I = wonder=20 > if there are any ways to decrease (speed up) loading times. My theory=20= > would be, the faster the drive, the faster the loading time of the = Akai=20 > CD. Would this be true in practice. > =A0 > Case in point, the Commodore 1571 drive would load up stuff on the=20 > Commodore 128 6x faster than the original Commodore 1541. However, = when=20 > the 1571 was loading original C64 programs, it would slow its speed=20 > down to the original 1541 speed. Get my analogy? Would this be the way=20= > the S760 loads Akai samples - at a set speed? > =A0 > I was wondering if someone with a 80x drive would be able to load Akai=20= > programs as fast as it would take to load Roland programs w/ a 8x = drive=20 > per say. Anyone have a clue about this? Since Roland formatted CDs=20 > seems to be supported by almost no one except Ilio (and let's see how=20= > long that lasts), Akai may just have to be the way to go. > =A0 > Later, > Harold > =A0 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed May 22 08:53:31 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-16969>; Wed, 22 May 2002 08:53:23 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16969>; Wed, 22 May 2002 08:53:20 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4MCrGb13940 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 22 May 2002 08:53:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from po ([195.219.3.147]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16970>; Wed, 22 May 2002 06:59:57 -0400 Received: from 10.96.12.175 by po ([10.96.1.33] running VPOP3) with SMTP for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 11:57:13 +0100 Reply-To: From: "David Inkersole" To: Subject: sgroup S50 audio outputs Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 06:57:08 -0400 Message-ID: <004a01c2017f$6ba2f030$af0c600a@di> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C20187.CD675830" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.5.0b - Registered Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C20187.CD675830 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_004C_01C20187.CD675830" ------=_NextPart_001_004C_01C20187.CD675830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Sorry to bug all of you, but I would really appreciate some help, as Roland don't seem know as this is now an obsolete product. I have a weird problem with my S50 sampler, and I'm not sure if it is operator error, or a "feature" of the software (V2.0) or a hardware fault. I have recently acquired a 24 channel desk and can now use all four audio signal outputs, but ... If I assign different MIDI channels to the four individual outputs I would expect each output to respond ONLY to the MIDI data on the channel it is assigned to, but this is not the case :- MIDI S50 Out Patch play mode Channel 1 A notes sound only on A Channel 2 B notes sound on B but also on A Channel 3 C notes sound on C but also on B and A Channel 4 D notes sound on A but also on B, C and D The even stranger thing is that in voice mode 8 all the available 16 voices are assigned to output A, but I still get notes played on B,C and D !!. The same thing occurs when the keyboard is assigned to each output, ie assigning the keyboard to output D will also play the patch on A,B and C ! This renders the facility unusable, as output A is outputting ALL the notes received on ALL four MIDI channels and the S50 runs out of available voices !. I have a service manual for the S50 - but can't find it (it's been some time since I last repaired it) so I have downloaded the circit diagrams - so a big thanks to whoever it was that scanned them in !. regards, ______________________________ David Inkersole Support Engineer Miranda Technologies Ltd. Hithercroft Road Wallingford Oxfordshire OX10 9DG UK Tel. +44 1491 820000 Fax. +44 1491 820002 www.miranda.com ------=_NextPart_001_004C_01C20187.CD675830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
Sorry to = bug all of you,=20 but I would really=20 appreciate some help, as = Roland don't=20 seem know as this = is now=20 an obsolete product.
 
I have a=20 weird problem with my S50 sampler, and I'm not sure if it is = operator=20 error, or a "feature" of the software (V2.0) or a=20 hardware fault.
I have = recently=20 acquired a 24 channel desk and can now use all four audio signal outputs, but=20 ...
 
If I = assign=20 different MIDI channels to the four individual outputs I would expect = each=20 output to respond ONLY to the MIDI data on the channel it is assigned = to, but=20 this is not the case :-
 
MIDI       =     =20 S50=20 Out           &nbs= p; =20 Patch play mode
Channel=20 1   =20 A            =             n= otes=20 sound only on A
Channel=20 2   =20 B            =            =20 notes sound on B but also=20 on A
Channel=20 3   =20 C            =            =20 notes sound on C but also on B and = A
Channel=20 4   =20 D            =            =20 notes sound on A but also on B, C and=20 D
 
The even stranger thing is that in voice mode = 8 all the=20 available 16 voices are assigned to output A, but I still get notes = played on=20 B,C and D !!.
 
The same thing=20 occurs when the keyboard is assigned to each output, ie assigning the keyboard to output D will = also play=20 the patch on A,B and C !
This renders=20 the facility unusable, as output A is outputting ALL the notes = received on=20 ALL four MIDI channels and the S50 runs = out of=20 available voices !.
 
I have a service manual for the S50 - but = can't find it=20 (it's been some time since I last repaired it) so I have downloaded the = circit=20 diagrams - so a big thanks to whoever it was that scanned them in=20 !.
 
regards,

______________________________
David=20 Inkersole
Support Engineer

Miranda Technologies=20 Ltd.
Hithercroft = Road
Wallingford
Oxfordshire OX10=20 9DG
UK

Tel. +44 1491=20 820000
Fax. +44=20 1491 820002
www.miranda.com

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From owner-sgroup Wed May 22 12:20:35 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-16969>; Wed, 22 May 2002 12:20:31 -0400 Received: from imo-r06.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.102]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16969>; Wed, 22 May 2002 12:20:16 -0400 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.7e.27e03312 (4233) for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 12:20:06 -0400 (EDT) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <7e.27e03312.2a1d1f35@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 12:20:05 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup S50 audio outputs To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7e.27e03312.2a1d1f35_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10503 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_7e.27e03312.2a1d1f35_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is an attachment with your email. [Miranda_Background.gif] I am only thinking virus to be safe. Not saying you sent it but just warning everyone in case it is. Dave >>Hi, Sorry to bug all of you, but I would really appreciate some help, as Roland don't seem know as this is now an obsolete product...etc...<< --part1_7e.27e03312.2a1d1f35_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is an attachment with your email. [Miranda_Background.gif] I am only thinking virus to be safe. Not saying you sent it but just warning everyone in case it is.

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Sorry to bug all of you, but I would really appreciate some help, as Roland don't seem know as this is now an obsolete product...etc...<< --part1_7e.27e03312.2a1d1f35_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed May 22 17:59:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-16969>; Wed, 22 May 2002 17:59:30 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16969>; Wed, 22 May 2002 17:59:24 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.114.249]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020522215914.WTTQ5116.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Wed, 22 May 2002 21:59:14 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c201db$208ef2e0$f972580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Josh Carter" , References: <38F268B3-6D9B-11D6-98E2-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Getting the most out of the S760. Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:53:35 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Heeeeeyyyyyyy, Josh, what drum sample CDs have you seen for $30? Please enlighten me. The only disks I've seen run for $100-$200. Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh Carter To: Harold Everton, Jr. Cc: Roland Sgroup Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Getting the most out of the S760. > Hi Harold, > > Even one year ago I would have said dedicated hardware is the way to go. > But all the sudden there has been a huge shift in the usefulness of > software instruments. I'm convinced that the PowerBook (or whatever PC) > will basically become the "generic music hardware unit" that you just > customize with whatever instrument or recording tools suit your fancy. > Actually, I'm convinced it already has. > > I attribute it to, first and most obvious, improved software. I've > looked at stuff from Propellerheads, Native Instruments, Bitheadz, > Emagic, etc. and most of it is very hot stuff. Second, the new > generation of USB control surfaces finally makes these instruments > "playable" in a real way. Not just with keys, but knobs and sliders and > whatever else. Want a digital mixer and hard disk recorder? Get > ProTools, Logic, or whatever and put a mixer control surface on it. > Tascam has ones that have both the sliders and audio/MIDI in/out, too. > The Oxygen8 and Reason give you a pretty darn good MIDI studio for $400. > Yow. Third factor, for us Mac users at least, is MacOS X. It's rock > solid. There's nothing previous on Mac or PC that I'd trust for live > use, but I've been running OS X on my PowerBook G4 for about 8 months > now, and it's a rock. It also has superb audio and MIDI support in the > core OS -- none of this jacking around with OMS and whatnot. > > As for specifics: I wound up getting Reason, with the intent of > upgrading to version 2 as soon as it's out. (Current buyers get a free > upgrade.) The version 1 sampler isn't that hot -- no comparison to the > S760. But version 2's will be pretty decent. I really bought Reason for > all the "other stuff" you can do with it, and for it's super-slick user > interface. It's very intuitive and polished. I was messing with the demo > version, and kept messing with it, and messing around some more... and > that's pretty much why I got it. For $280 street you simply can't go > wrong. > > Two days after getting Reason I found out about Native Instruments, and > Battery in particular. (I'm mostly a drummer, and Battery is their > drum-specific sampler.) It's super-hot. It's like their team said, > "let's make a product that has exactly the features that Josh wants, and > a couple extra for good measure." Their other stuff looks hot, too. They > run either stand-alone for live play and they also integrate into damn > near everything else, too -- even ProTools. My only beef with Battery is > that it probably won't be updated for MacOS X for another 6 months or > so. (They don't promise OS X versions until end of this year or sometime > next.) I'll almost certainly buy it when they do. > > I tried the demo of Unity Session, and didn't like it much. The feature > set is great, but the user interface is clunky and unpolished. The MacOS > X version in particular looks awful. It's a pity, because feature-wise > it looks pretty darn good. Especially the part about importing Roland > sample CDs. (I couldn't get that working, however.) > > As for the sound of the Roland vs. software: I can't comment on this > because I don't have the same samples in both places. Perhaps others on > the list can enlighten us. FWIW, I've read that the Native Instruments > stuff tends to sound great. I'm pretty happy with what I'm getting out > of Reason, too. But without using the same samples in both places, I > can't do a A/B comparison. > > As for working from sample libraries vs. sampling your own stuff: I used > to do theater sound design, and with that I'd sample a fair bit of stuff > myself. But for music I tend to use libraries. I've tried sampling a > drum kit, and it worked okay, but why bother? There are lots of sample > CDs out there where people have taken very nice kits, sampled them with > very nice mics in very nice rooms, and the CD is more than worth the > time and equipment it would take to do it yourself. Most sample CDs seem > to be $30 to $100, and they're a bargain for what you get. Right now I'm > not using any samples I did myself. > > Loops may be another matter. Even as a drummer I don't have a > philosophical problem with people using loops -- in my book you can use > whatever gets the job done -- but rather I think the music gets very > boring and repetitive when you mostly have the same 4-bar loop playing > through the whole darn song. Ditto for what people usually do with drum > machines. Moby really irks me, for example: he's got some great stuff, > but the drums are always awful. People tend to badly shortchange their > drum parts, either with loops or sequencers. Of course drummers haven't > done much to help -- there aren't many of us into MIDI and electronics. > At the moment I don't see that getting better, as electronic drums are > damn expensive. I use a TrapKAT myself, and the price has gone *up* on > that in the past couple years! > > Anyway, that's my ramble for the morning. > > Best regards, > Josh > > > On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 08:57 PM, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > > > Hey Josh (and Sgroup), > > > > Yeah, I'm trying to make the best of the S760 before I decide to sell > > it. > > With all of the software samplers and better hardware samplers with more > > support these days, it's hard not to get tempted. It wasn't like how it > > was > > even two years ago. My Roland VS840 is already painfully obsolete. > > Especially considering that I paid $999 for it, and for that price, I > > could > > build my own PC and then buy Digidesign's Digi 001 24 track PC studio > > for > > the same price. > > > > Since I'm just not a "go around and sample it yourself" type and rely > > more > > on libraries, the lack of decently priced sample CDs is what's killing > > me > > with this unit. Some people have slammed me here before about sampling > > my > > own sounds (off records for example - which is illegal anyway), the only > > time I ever sample my own stuff is when I fly in background vocals or > > need > > to sample someone saying something. > > > > What software sampler are you using and how does it compare to the > > Roland > > S760? Although I've been anti computer recording in the past (unless it > > was > > Pro-Tools TDM, which I've used many times, but could never afford > > myself), > > the recent price drops and obsolescence of my units are starting to > > open my > > eyes a bit. > > > > On the other hand, the best studio guys are those who could make their > > current equipment do anything they want it to. > > > > Later, > > Harold > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Josh Carter > > To: Roland Sgroup > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 10:22 PM > > Subject: Re: sgroup Getting the most out of the S760. > > > > > > Hi Harold, > > > > From what I understand (and I may very well be wrong), the S760 will > > only work with rather old and slow CD-ROM drives. In any case, SCSI > > CD-ROM drives are hard to find these days, and most are used, > > new-old-stock, or refurb slow stuff. > > > > Perhaps another approach is to take a scrap 700MB hard drive and do a > > raw copy from the Akai to the hard drive. (Use "dd" on Linux or > > whatever.) Stick this on the SCSI chain and the Roland should (maybe?) > > allow you to convert load from it. Then you could do all your importing, > > saving to native Roland format on another hard drive, etc., and then > > raw-copy the next Akai CD to your temp drive. Later, take your Roland > > drive and burn a CD from it. > > > > The only issue is that I don't know if the convert process is I/O-bound > > or not -- i.e. is it really the CD that makes the process slow? It could > > entirely be the CPU on the S760 chugging away, moving bits around, in > > which case the fastest CD-ROM on the planet wouldn't buy you anything. > > But if it's because the Roland is seeking the CD all the time (very > > slow), then putting the Akai data on a hard drive would make a world of > > difference. > > > > Personally, I must admit, I took the plunge and went software about a > > week ago. I'm not selling my S760 or anything, but at the moment it's > > not plugged in. :( > > > > -Josh > > > > > > On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 06:39 PM, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > > > >> Hey All, > >> > >> I got that German sample CD that you guys were talking about today. The > >> sounds are okay at best, but it's still refreshing to add more sounds > >> to the ever expanding library. Speaking of Akai formatted CDs, I wonder > >> if there are any ways to decrease (speed up) loading times. My theory > >> would be, the faster the drive, the faster the loading time of the Akai > >> CD. Would this be true in practice. > >> > >> Case in point, the Commodore 1571 drive would load up stuff on the > >> Commodore 128 6x faster than the original Commodore 1541. However, when > >> the 1571 was loading original C64 programs, it would slow its speed > >> down to the original 1541 speed. Get my analogy? Would this be the way > >> the S760 loads Akai samples - at a set speed? > >> > >> I was wondering if someone with a 80x drive would be able to load Akai > >> programs as fast as it would take to load Roland programs w/ a 8x drive > >> per say. Anyone have a clue about this? Since Roland formatted CDs > >> seems to be supported by almost no one except Ilio (and let's see how > >> long that lasts), Akai may just have to be the way to go. > >> > >> Later, > >> Harold > >> > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu May 23 00:55:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-2817>; Thu, 23 May 2002 00:55:28 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2817>; Thu, 23 May 2002 00:55:25 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4N4tEA45600 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 23 May 2002 00:55:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.89]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16970>; Wed, 22 May 2002 20:02:12 -0400 Received: from smtp-relay04-en1.mac.com (smtp-relay04-en1 [10.13.10.223]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g4N029kv017927 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 17:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com (asmtp01-qfe3.mac.com [10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay04-en1.mac.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/1.0) with ESMTP id g4N0242J013865 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 17:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([63.227.43.78]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GWJERG00.J1H for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 17:02:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 20:02:09 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Getting the most out of the S760. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <001a01c201db$208ef2e0$f972580c@epu1> Message-Id: <53470E89-6DE0-11D6-A003-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Harold, > Josh, what drum sample CDs have you seen for $30? Please enlighten me. > The > only disks I've seen run for $100-$200. As for stuff I've bought, the only pure drum one at that price is Roland's LCDP-01 from West LA Music, if they still have it. I also bought Phat & Phunky while it was on super-discount ($30, now $200 again) at East/West, and it has a bunch of single drum hits in addition to the loops (www.soundsonline.com). As for non-Roland, I've just now started looking, and I'm having a heck of a time trying to find one that's pure single hits (not just loops). Some potential picks from East/West: ProSamples vol 15 Dance Drums ($50) and Drum and Percussion Tools ($27). The latter looks a little *too* cheap; list price is $30. I'm skeptical. The hard part is telling if CD with loops also contain single hits, and if so, how many. That would certainly broaden the useful range of libraries. One thing to note: if you're going to pay $100+ for a general-purpose drum CD, consider just buying Battery instead. It sells for $150 street and includes a separate CD of 500+MB (likely high-quality) single-hit drum samples. Plus you get the best drum sampling software on the market. -Josh - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu May 23 18:11:54 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-2818>; Thu, 23 May 2002 18:11:47 -0400 Received: from colossus.systems.pipex.net ([62.190.223.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-2817>; Thu, 23 May 2002 18:11:42 -0400 Received: from abit (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by colossus.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 86F591600008D for ; Thu, 23 May 2002 23:11:36 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "Roland S760 List" Subject: sgroup Wanted to buy - genuine Roland sample CD-ROMS Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:11:36 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If anyone has any (or all :-) of the following discs available I would be very interested to buy them - please email me and let me know - thanks! L-CDP-03: Orchestral Percussion Vol.1 L-CDP-06: Brass Selections Vol. 1 L-CDP-10: Keyboards of the 60's & 70's Vol 2 L-CDP-11: Africa Vol. 1 L-CD-702: Orchestral Family Vol.1 & 2 I myself have the following available and would gladly trade/exchange for any of my wanted discs; L-CD-701: Rhythm Section Vol. 1 SV-SP70-01: Roland Library Preview Disc Thanks & regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri May 24 23:27:16 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20028>; Fri, 24 May 2002 23:27:08 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20028>; Fri, 24 May 2002 23:27:04 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.180]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020525032700.RFPH19182.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Sat, 25 May 2002 03:27:00 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2039b$3bf01840$b452580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <000a01c20129$153b7420$7561580c@epu1> Subject: sgroup Test Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:21:15 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C20379.B3765CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C20379.B3765CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Test ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C20379.B3765CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Test ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C20379.B3765CC0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun May 26 08:38:32 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-12052>; Sun, 26 May 2002 08:38:27 -0400 Received: from nemesis.systems.pipex.net ([62.190.223.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12052>; Sun, 26 May 2002 08:38:11 -0400 Received: from abit (usercd168.dsl.pipex.com [62.190.235.168]) by nemesis.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D2C816000093 for ; Sun, 26 May 2002 13:38:04 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: Subject: RE: sgroup How do you install a Zip drive in your S760? Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 08:38:07 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C204BA.91C80C30" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000901c1e1b6$81e2b3a0$7655580c@epu1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C204BA.91C80C30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message was sent to you as a Valued equalaMAIL subscriber on behalf of: CD MicroDid anyone ever find out how to do this or if it is even possible? Would the internal Zip have to be SCSI or IDE? How about the ribbon cable connection? Seems like a good idea to me... Regards, -=Glyn=- -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: 12 April 2002 01:11 To: Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com; sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup How do you install a Zip drive in your S760? Hey All, I've seen many music stores and setups where people have internal Zip Drives in place of their floppy drives on their S760. How is this done? Thanks, harold ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C204BA.91C80C30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This message was sent to you as a Valued equalaMAIL = subscriber on behalf of: CD Micro
Did=20 anyone ever find out how to do this or if it is even=20 possible?
 
Would=20 the internal Zip have to be SCSI or IDE?
 
How=20 about the ribbon cable connection?
 
Seems=20 like a good idea to me...
 
Regards,
-=3DGlyn=3D-
-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold = Everton,=20 Jr.
Sent: 12 April 2002 01:11
To:=20 Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com; = sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Subject:=20 sgroup How do you install a Zip drive in your = S760?

Hey All,
 
I've seen many music stores and = setups where=20 people have internal Zip Drives in place of their floppy drives on = their S760.=20 How is this done?
 
Thanks,
harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C204BA.91C80C30-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 27 00:48:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3307>; Mon, 27 May 2002 00:48:14 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3308>; Mon, 27 May 2002 00:48:04 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4R4lrG33261 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 27 May 2002 00:47:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from sunny.pacific.net.au ([203.25.148.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-12052>; Sun, 26 May 2002 20:53:24 -0400 Received: from wisma.pacific.net.au (wisma.pacific.net.au [210.23.129.72]) by sunny.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id g4R0rHZr013302 for ; Mon, 27 May 2002 10:53:17 +1000 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.254] (ppp105.adsl89.pacific.net.au [202.7.89.105]) by wisma.pacific.net.au with ESMTP id KAA17571 for ; Mon, 27 May 2002 10:53:16 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 21:06:13 -0400 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup How do you install a Zip drive in your S760? Message-ID: <791307.1022497573@[192.168.0.11]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Glyn wrote: > Did anyone ever find out how to do this or if it is even possible? > > Would the internal Zip have to be SCSI or IDE? I don't know how to do this, but it would have to be SCSI, as the S-760 doesn't have an IDE interface, and I'd be surprised if an IDE drive can hang off a floppy controller. But I could be wrong. > How about the ribbon cable connection? I'm not sure - it's been a while since I've looked inside my S-760. In the worst case, you'd have to disconnect the external SCSI connector to connect up the ribbon cable. Possibly need to do some soldering. I doubt that there's a header for an internal ribbon cable. > Seems like a good idea to me... Indeed. Cheers, Bernie - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 27 14:57:19 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3308>; Mon, 27 May 2002 14:57:12 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natwar.webmailer.de [192.67.198.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3307>; Mon, 27 May 2002 14:57:02 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9517CC7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.81.124.199]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA27248 for ; Mon, 27 May 2002 20:56:50 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g4RIt4a01304 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 27 May 2002 20:55:04 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 14:55:04 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: sgroup Sample Homepage? Message-ID: <20020527205504.A1053@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi everybody, I', planing a website on my onw server where I want to offer samples for the S-330. It will be samples made by my own. And know I thoght: "Does anyone other want to offer his samples, too?" So, if anyone of you wants to offer his samples for everyone, please tell me. And also, if anyone want's to get samples by this way, tell me, too. Cause, if there is any interest in that, this website will be there as soon as possible. bye, Martin -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon May 27 17:11:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3308>; Mon, 27 May 2002 17:11:06 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3308>; Mon, 27 May 2002 17:11:00 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g4RLApP67493 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 27 May 2002 17:10:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web12305.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-3307>; Mon, 27 May 2002 15:02:15 -0400 Message-ID: <20020527190210.27495.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.64.139.41] by web12305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 May 2002 12:02:10 PDT Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 15:02:10 -0400 From: Dharma Bummer Subject: sgroup update on the great S-10 sample hunt To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Okay, I got back from my vacation yesterday, and last night I took a serious look at what S-10 samples I have and what I could scavenge... Thanks to the good advice of Dennis Barton I was able to salvage ALL the samples from the S-10 Archive with the help of Pkunzip... I was even able to do the same thing with a (very small) handful of patches from the Li'l Chips archives... combined with what I already have, this now means I have ALMOST the entire original Roland disk set (L-105, the effects set, is incomplete) and the entire S-10 Archive. Unfortunately, I only have a small number of samples from Li'l Chips' own collection (the non-Roland ones that they sampled themselves. I am in contact with somebody from Li'l Chips, so with any luck I'll end up filling the gaps. I've also created text files cut and pasted from the online descriptions of the various patches found on the Internet Wayback Machine. Once I have completed the collection, I will make zip files of the various grouped libraries and see about uploading 'em. Once again, tho, if anybody out there has any of the disks I've missed, please send 'em my way, as I would really like to wrap this up! :) BaM ===== This message has been brought to you by the little ASCII art duck who never stopped complaining: o< THIS SUCKS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 28 16:00:07 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-22445>; Tue, 28 May 2002 15:59:59 -0400 Received: from siaag2af.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.136]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22445>; Tue, 28 May 2002 15:59:56 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2af.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id PAA20813 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 28 May 2002 15:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:59:35 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup new To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200205281559_MC3-FFFB-D908@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Another list I'm on hints that Roland has a new sampler in the works, but= there is ZERO info other than that. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue May 28 16:06:11 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-22444>; Tue, 28 May 2002 16:06:03 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail15.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.215]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22445>; Tue, 28 May 2002 16:05:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 6474 invoked from network); 28 May 2002 20:05:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail15.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 May 2002 20:05:48 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200205281559_MC3-FFFB-D908@compuserve.com> References: <200205281559_MC3-FFFB-D908@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:07:30 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup new Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Another list I'm on hints that Roland has a new sampler in the works, but >there is ZERO info other than that. Well maybe someday the S760 will be one-upped...Roland has yet to do that... -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.