From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 2 13:43:03 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-16097>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:42:58 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16097>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:42:47 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g32IgiF50063 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:42:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (camus.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16098>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:57:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 6051071 invoked by uid 0); 2 Apr 2002 15:44:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zgogor) ([195.132.186.52]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 2 Apr 2002 15:44:42 -0000 Message-ID: <026c01c1da5d$40303780$0200a8c0@noos.fr> From: "yael" To: References: <200203220714.g2M7ENq98104@gc0.generalconcepts.com> <000d01c1d19e$560fd280$2355580c@epu1> Subject: sgroup What can I do with S50 Floppy disk ?? Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:44:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, what can I do with S50 floppies ??? I don't have my S50 Keyboard anymore but I've kept the floppies :o) there is good sounds ! Any idea to convert them in AKAI or EXS format ?? Igor - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 2 14:18:04 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-16098>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:17:57 -0500 Received: from richardson.uni2.net ([130.227.52.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16098>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:17:47 -0500 Received: from s180499 (p446-3.ppp.get2net.dk [195.47.129.131]) by richardson.uni2.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g32JHe925607; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 21:17:40 +0200 Message-ID: <001801c1da7b$0e3d1040$83812fc3@s180499> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars-Peder_Nyrup_B=F8gh?= To: "yael" , References: <200203220714.g2M7ENq98104@gc0.generalconcepts.com> <000d01c1d19e$560fd280$2355580c@epu1> <026c01c1da5d$40303780$0200a8c0@noos.fr> Subject: Sv: sgroup What can I do with S50 Floppy disk ?? Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:17:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I recall some good old trusty DOS programs... "Convert" and "Sampled" = but I don't know if they are still out there somewhere... with kinde regars, Nyrup ----- Original Message -----=20 From: yael To: Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:44 PM Subject: sgroup What can I do with S50 Floppy disk ?? > Hi all, > what can I do with S50 floppies ??? > I don't have my S50 Keyboard anymore but I've kept the floppies :o) > there is good sounds ! > Any idea to convert them in AKAI or EXS format ?? > Igor >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 2 16:44:29 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-16098>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:44:22 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.105]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16098>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:44:16 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.9d.259e3be6 (4316) for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:44:06 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <9d.259e3be6.29db8026@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:44:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Sv: sgroup What can I do with S50 Floppy disk ?? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk You can always send them to me if you can't find a use for them. Let me know. Dave >>I recall some good old trusty DOS programs... "Convert" and "Sampled" but I don't know if they are still out there somewhere... with kinde regars, Nyrup<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 2 17:11:30 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-16097>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:11:23 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-16097>; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:11:13 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1l9.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.6.169] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16sWUc-0002S5-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:11:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3CAA2CD2.42A34AD@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:12:34 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: Sv: sgroup What can I do with S50 Floppy disk ?? References: <200203220714.g2M7ENq98104@gc0.generalconcepts.com> <000d01c1d19e$560fd280$2355580c@epu1> <026c01c1da5d$40303780$0200a8c0@noos.fr> <001801c1da7b$0e3d1040$83812fc3@s180499> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Won't AWave read and convert? And don't you have an S-700 class sampler? Jesse > ----- Original Message ----- > From: yael > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:44 PM > Subject: sgroup What can I do with S50 Floppy disk ?? > > > Hi all, > > what can I do with S50 floppies ??? > > I don't have my S50 Keyboard anymore but I've kept the floppies :o) > > there is good sounds ! > > Any idea to convert them in AKAI or EXS format ?? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 3 11:48:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-4842>; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:48:14 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4841>; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:48:09 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id IAA22614; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.141) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma022612; Wed, 3 Apr 02 08:58:02 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g33GlUL75633 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:47:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (verlaine.noos.net [212.198.2.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-4842>; Wed, 3 Apr 2002 03:22:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 5778349 invoked by uid 0); 3 Apr 2002 08:22:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zgogor) ([195.132.186.52]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.73 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 3 Apr 2002 08:22:16 -0000 Message-ID: <005f01c1dae8$9a9e0680$0200a8c0@noos.fr> From: "yael" To: References: <200203220714.g2M7ENq98104@gc0.generalconcepts.com> <000d01c1d19e$560fd280$2355580c@epu1> <026c01c1da5d$40303780$0200a8c0@noos.fr> <001801c1da7b$0e3d1040$83812fc3@s180499> <3CAA2CD2.42A34AD@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Sv: sgroup What can I do with S50 Floppy disk ?? Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 03:19:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Segovia" > Won't AWave read and convert? And don't you have an S-700 class > sampler? > Jesse I will try to find something :o) I had a SP700 few month ago, I sold it but I kept a S760. I cannot read with the S760, I have to pass thru a S550 first.... thx for u'r help.... Igor - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 12:38:25 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-17636>; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:38:18 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17636>; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:38:12 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g35HcAJ73300 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 12:38:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from hotmail.com (f5.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17636>; Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:05:23 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 21:05:20 -0800 Received: from 68.10.230.172 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 05 Apr 2002 05:05:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.10.230.172] From: "Ambient X" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Roland S-330 Potentiometer Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 00:05:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2002 05:05:20.0319 (UTC) FILETIME=[7BFBD4F0:01C1DC5F] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Roland Gurus, Does anyone know where I could find the dual potentiometer used in the Roland S-330 Sampler for volume and input level? I am willing to pay a high mark up on this component to fix my S-330. Thanks, Patrick (Ambient X) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Apr 6 20:34:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-14084>; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 20:34:29 -0500 Received: from th09.opsion.fr ([195.219.20.19]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-14084>; Sat, 6 Apr 2002 20:34:25 -0500 Received: from 80.13.186.167 [80.13.186.167] by th09.opsion.fr id 200204070134.04d9; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 01:34:04 GMT Message-ID: <031801c1ddd5$a7456500$81eefea9@w9j4u2> From: "seoh secho sedisco" To: Subject: sgroup Problem to make a floppy OS Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 20:43:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi everybody my name is seoh, I'm a new french S.sampler user -I bought a second hand S750 with RC100, monitor and mouse last week- but system on floppy is the 2.21 and I want to upgrade it. I found the 2.25 on roland's site and I downloaded it with sdik.exe...but I don't understand how does it work ! I tried and tried and tried but I never made any bootable floppy disk ! If somebody could explain me in detail how must I do, I'd do thank him. This OS is very important for me because with my actual OS I can't use iomega ZIP....and I don't want to stay with 88 syquest (too noisy). Regards seoh ps : excuse my approximative english...but this is not my language -and frenchies are known to only speak correctly french :-)- ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 7 10:20:07 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9622>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 10:20:02 -0400 Received: from th10.opsion.fr ([195.219.20.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-9622>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 10:19:46 -0400 Received: from 80.13.173.98 [80.13.173.98] by th10.opsion.fr id 200204071419.1c31; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 14:19:28 GMT Message-ID: <012e01c1de40$9103c0a0$9527fea9@w9j4u2> From: "seoh secho sedisco" To: References: <031801c1ddd5$a7456500$81eefea9@w9j4u2> Subject: Re: sgroup Problem to make a floppy OS Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 10:29:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello is there anybody who could help me ??? Please :-) seoh > Hi everybody > > my name is seoh, I'm a new french S.sampler user -I bought a second hand > S750 with RC100, monitor and mouse last week- but system on floppy is the > 2.21 and I want to upgrade it. > I found the 2.25 on roland's site and I downloaded it with sdik.exe...but I > don't understand how does it work ! > I tried and tried and tried but I never made any bootable floppy disk ! > If somebody could explain me in detail how must I do, I'd do thank him. > This OS is very important for me because with my actual OS I can't use > iomega ZIP....and I don't want to stay with 88 syquest (too noisy). > > Regards > > seoh > > ps : excuse my approximative english...but this is not my language -and > frenchies are known to only speak correctly french :-)- > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ __ > ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! > vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... > http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > ______________________________________________________________________________ ifrance.com, l'email gratuit le plus complet de l'Internet ! vos emails depuis un navigateur, en POP3, sur Minitel, sur le WAP... http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/email.emailif - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 7 14:42:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9621>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 14:42:15 -0400 Received: from ctb-mesg1.saix.net ([196.25.240.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9622>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 14:42:09 -0400 Received: from [155.239.82.170] (ndf53-05-p170.gt.saix.net [155.239.82.170]) by ctb-mesg1.saix.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g37IfvK11723; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 20:41:58 +0200 (SAT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@pop.icon.co.za Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <031801c1ddd5$a7456500$81eefea9@w9j4u2> References: <031801c1ddd5$a7456500$81eefea9@w9j4u2> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 14:41:05 -0400 To: From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup Problem to make a floppy OS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi seoh, >my name is seoh, I'm a new french S.sampler user -I bought a second hand >S750 with RC100, monitor and mouse last week- but system on floppy is the >2.21 and I want to upgrade it. >I found the 2.25 on roland's site and I downloaded it with sdik.exe...but I >don't understand how does it work ! I'm not sure exactly what you downloaded, but you need either SMac or DART for Mac or a similar program for PC to decode the file onto a floppy for the S750. I suggest you go back to the Roland site where you found this file, and search for the correct program. I'd help you more if I could, but I have the S760 and I'm on Mac (sounds like you're on PC). Hope this helps a little..... Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 7 15:55:47 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9621>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 15:55:38 -0400 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9621>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 15:55:31 -0400 Received: from user-2ive1n8.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.6.232] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16uIl0-0006sY-00; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 15:55:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3CB0A485.9D76251C@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 15:56:53 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: seoh secho sedisco , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Problem to make a floppy OS References: <031801c1ddd5$a7456500$81eefea9@w9j4u2> <012e01c1de40$9103c0a0$9527fea9@w9j4u2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Do you have a PC or a Macintosh computer? If you have a Mac I can't help you - I don't have one. For a PC, copy the files sdisk.exe and the boot diskette image file you downloaded into a directory on your PC. You can't run sdisk from Windows. Sdisk is not a Windows program and it won't work in a DOS prompt under Windows. From Windows 98, I have to restart the computer and go into MS-DOS mode. Put a blank high density floppy disk into your floppy disk drive. I believe it had to be formatted for DOS. Change to the directory where these two files are located. Type sdisk. The sdisk program will start. Click on D for details. Enter the name of the image file (e.g., s760225.out) and hit Enter. Type W for Write. This should create a good boot disk for you on the floppy in your disk drive. Reply if you have any more questions. Jesse seoh secho sedisco wrote: > > Hello > > is there anybody who could help me ??? Please :-) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 7 16:09:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9622>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:09:44 -0400 Received: from web13108.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.174.153]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-9622>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:09:41 -0400 Message-ID: <20020407200939.49133.qmail@web13108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.24.89.5] by web13108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 13:09:39 PDT Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:09:39 -0400 From: DJ boomstick Subject: Re: sgroup Problem to make a floppy OS To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <3CB0A485.9D76251C@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --- Jesse Segovia wrote: > Do you have a PC or a Macintosh computer? If you > have a Mac I can't > help you - I don't have one. > > For a PC, copy the files sdisk.exe and the boot > diskette image file you > downloaded into a directory on your PC. You can't > run sdisk from > Windows. Sdisk is not a Windows program and it > won't work in a DOS > prompt under Windows. actually it will work just fine with windows 98se with out haveing to reboot to dos here is a link to an updated help file for sdisk http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/2280/houseofboom/SDISKFAQ.HTM __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 7 17:58:00 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9621>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:57:52 -0400 Received: from ctb-mesg2.saix.net ([196.25.240.74]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9621>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:57:42 -0400 Received: from [155.239.73.126] (ndf53-06-126.gt.saix.net [155.239.73.126]) by ctb-mesg2.saix.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g37LvXT27390 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 23:57:34 +0200 (SAT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@pop.icon.co.za Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:56:41 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: sgroup Writing Roland Zip disks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I asked this before, but never really solved it: I use a Zip drive to store my S760 data. I back up the data as disk images on a Mac. Is there any utility that allows me to write a disk image to a disk for a Roland sampler? I *DON'T* mean writing to a CD. I want to restore the Disk image to a Zip disk. I've tried DiskCopy 6.3.3 (I'm on Mac) and it will convert a Roland Zip disk to a disk image, but it can't write a new Zip disk with that image data. Toast 5 won't do it either. There must be some way . . . . . . HELP - anyone? Someone out there who can write a simple utility perhaps? Regards - Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 7 21:16:17 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9621>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:16:08 -0400 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9621>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:16:05 -0400 Received: from user-2ive09d.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.45] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16uNlF-0003HM-00; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 21:15:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3CB0EFA8.705138B0@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:17:28 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: seoh secho sedisco , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Problem to make a floppy OS References: <031801c1ddd5$a7456500$81eefea9@w9j4u2> <012e01c1de40$9103c0a0$9527fea9@w9j4u2> <3CB0A485.9D76251C@mindspring.com> <020e01c1de96$f7caac80$9527fea9@w9j4u2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk seoh secho sedisco wrote: > > Type W for Write. This should create a good boot disk for you on the > > floppy in your disk drive. > > NOT OK !!!! On my new disk I find s770225.out and SDISK.EXE ?!?! What happens when you hit the W key in sdisk? Does it give you a meter as though something is being done and do you hear your floppy disk drive cranking? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 7 21:32:05 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9622>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:31:57 -0400 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9622>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:31:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.185]) by tweakhead.com ; Sun, 07 Apr 2002 21:31:38 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Writing Roland Zip disks Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:31:39 -0400 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Colin Shapiro" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <101822949901@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I asked this before, but never really solved it: > >I use a Zip drive to store my S760 data. >I back up the data as disk images on a Mac. > >Is there any utility that allows me to write a disk image to a disk >for a Roland sampler? >I *DON'T* mean writing to a CD. I want to restore the Disk image to a >Zip disk. I've tried DiskCopy 6.3.3 (I'm on Mac) and it will convert >a Roland Zip disk to a disk image, but it can't write a new Zip disk >with that image data. Toast 5 won't do it either. what methood are you using in Toast? I have used Toast for this function, with Zip disks, and all was well. wondering, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 7 22:03:08 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-9621>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:03:04 -0400 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9621>; Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:02:49 -0400 Received: from [217.87.81.8] (helo=[217.87.81.8]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.43 #48) id 16uOUV-0006Wy-00; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 04:02:44 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:02:08 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Writing Roland Zip disks From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: Colin Shapiro , roland Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Is there any utility that allows me to write a disk image to a disk > for a Roland sampler? > I *DON'T* mean writing to a CD. I want to restore the Disk image to a > Zip disk. I've tried DiskCopy 6.3.3 (I'm on Mac) and it will convert > a Roland Zip disk to a disk image, but it can't write a new Zip disk > with that image data. Toast 5 won't do it either. > > There must be some way . . . . . . HDT's Device Copy does such... Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 8 02:39:33 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26129>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:39:28 -0400 Received: from rekin3.o2.pl (rekin3.go2.pl [212.126.20.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26129>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:39:12 -0400 Received: from n3d7r4 (dial1738.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl [217.30.154.214]) by rekin3.o2.pl (Mailer_v2.01) with SMTP id B7E7D2B8127 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 08:38:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <001801c1dec7$f810e700$d69a1ed9@n3d7r4> From: "slaq" To: "sgroup" Subject: sgroup those rich and famous among us :) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:38:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1DED8.BA532D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1DED8.BA532D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello guys i had an interesting chat about the most popular and sought-after gear = the other day. it turned into a really vigorous dispute when the bloke i = was taking with said something like 'you know, nobody's using roland = samplers nowadays - this gear is simply obsolete' [he meant 'nobody = famous' or 'nobody whose records we've got in our collections']. well, = of course i couldn't agree with this viewpoint, so i started listing = famous artists who still stick with old roland samplers because of their = huge creative potential and sound quality [btw, i'm using an s750 + zip = + mouse + rc100]. and then i thought to myself like - 'oh, maybe some of = those people are on the sgroup mailing list...' of course it's a matter of what your definition of the word 'famous' is, = but i've got that straightforward question for you:=20 how famous / how successful are you? this may seem a sort of daft attitude, but the question was inspired by = fatboy slim's letters to FUTURE MUSIC. he asks questions and describes = his problems like everybody else, which is always exciting for the = editors of the mag, as they can boast about it saying things like 'even = fatboy believes we're gurus'. so, do we have BANCO DE GAIA on the list? or THE PRODIGY guy liam = howlett ?=20 peace slaq ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1DED8.BA532D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello guys
 
i had an interesting chat about = the most=20 popular and sought-after gear the other day. it turned into a really = vigorous=20 dispute when the bloke i was taking with said something like 'you know, = nobody's=20 using roland samplers nowadays - this gear is simply obsolete' [he meant = 'nobody=20 famous' or 'nobody whose records we've got in our collections']. well, = of course=20 i couldn't agree with this viewpoint, so i started listing famous = artists who=20 still stick with old roland samplers because of their huge creative = potential=20 and sound quality [btw, i'm using an s750 + zip + mouse + rc100]. and = then i=20 thought to myself like - 'oh, maybe some of those people are on the = sgroup=20 mailing list...'
 
of course it's a matter of what = your=20 definition of the word 'famous' is, but i've got that straightforward = question=20 for you:
 
how famous / how successful are=20 you?
 
this may seem a sort of daft = attitude, but the=20 question was inspired by fatboy slim's letters to FUTURE MUSIC. he asks=20 questions and describes his problems like everybody else, which is = always=20 exciting for the editors of the mag, as they can boast about it saying = things=20 like 'even fatboy believes we're gurus'.
 
so, do we have BANCO DE GAIA on = the list? or=20 THE PRODIGY guy liam howlett ?
 
peace
 
slaq
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From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 8 07:03:00 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-26129>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 07:02:50 -0400 Received: from ctb-mesg1.saix.net ([196.25.240.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26128>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 07:02:48 -0400 Received: from [155.239.79.214] (ndf53-07-214.gt.saix.net [155.239.79.214]) by ctb-mesg1.saix.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g38B2fK21900 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:02:42 +0200 (SAT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@pop.icon.co.za Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <101822949901@europa.your-site.com> References: <101822949901@europa.your-site.com> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 07:01:33 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup Writing Roland Zip disks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >I asked this before, but never really solved it: >> >>I use a Zip drive to store my S760 data. >>I back up the data as disk images on a Mac. >> >>Is there any utility that allows me to write a disk image to a disk >>for a Roland sampler? >>I *DON'T* mean writing to a CD. I want to restore the Disk image to a >>Zip disk. I've tried DiskCopy 6.3.3 (I'm on Mac) and it will convert >>a Roland Zip disk to a disk image, but it can't write a new Zip disk >>with that image data. Toast 5 won't do it either. > >what methood are you using in Toast? I have used Toast for this function, >with Zip disks, and all was well. Hi aeon, I used to use SCSI copy in older Toasts, now Disk copy. I can get an image of the Roland Zip disk, but can't find any way to take an image and create a new Zip disk. How would you do it? Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 8 07:03:11 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26129>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 07:03:01 -0400 Received: from ctb-mesg1.saix.net ([196.25.240.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-26128>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 07:02:49 -0400 Received: from [155.239.79.214] (ndf53-07-214.gt.saix.net [155.239.79.214]) by ctb-mesg1.saix.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g38B2hK21910 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 13:02:44 +0200 (SAT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@pop.icon.co.za Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 07:01:33 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup Writing Roland Zip disks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > > Is there any utility that allows me to write a disk image to a disk >> for a Roland sampler? >> I *DON'T* mean writing to a CD. I want to restore the Disk image to a >> Zip disk. I've tried DiskCopy 6.3.3 (I'm on Mac) and it will convert >> a Roland Zip disk to a disk image, but it can't write a new Zip disk >> with that image data. Toast 5 won't do it either. >> >> There must be some way . . . . . . > > >HDT's Device Copy does such... Thanks Nikolaus I'll follow it up. Will it work with non-Mac format disks? Regards - Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 8 08:10:38 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26128>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 08:10:34 -0400 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26128>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 08:10:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.185]) by tweakhead.com ; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:09:48 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Writing Roland Zip disks Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 08:09:50 -0400 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Colin Shapiro" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <101826778901@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> >I asked this before, but never really solved it: >>>I use a Zip drive to store my S760 data. >>>I back up the data as disk images on a Mac. >>>Is there any utility that allows me to write a disk image to a disk >>>for a Roland sampler? >>>I *DON'T* mean writing to a CD. I want to restore the Disk image to a >>>Zip disk. I've tried DiskCopy 6.3.3 (I'm on Mac) and it will convert >>>a Roland Zip disk to a disk image, but it can't write a new Zip disk >>>with that image data. Toast 5 won't do it either. >>what methood are you using in Toast? I have used Toast for this function, >>with Zip disks, and all was well. >I used to use SCSI copy in older Toasts, now Disk copy. I can get an >image of the Roland Zip disk, but can't find any way to take an image >and create a new Zip disk. > >How would you do it? Yes, I used SCSI copy in an older Toast. FWB HDT Device Copy will also work, as someone suggested. The ancient Mac app "ImageMaster" might work, but I have not tested it, and as I just sold my sampler, I have no way to do so. let me know, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 8 10:26:28 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26129>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:26:24 -0400 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26129>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:26:08 -0400 Received: from [217.87.81.95] (helo=[217.87.81.95]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE(Exim) 4.43 #48) id 16ua5l-00047y-00; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 16:25:57 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:25:19 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Writing Roland Zip disks From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: Colin Shapiro , roland Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >>> Is there any utility that allows me to write a disk image to a disk >>> for a Roland sampler? >>> I *DON'T* mean writing to a CD. I want to restore the Disk image to a >>> Zip disk. I've tried DiskCopy 6.3.3 (I'm on Mac) and it will convert >>> a Roland Zip disk to a disk image, but it can't write a new Zip disk >>> with that image data. Toast 5 won't do it either. >>> >>> There must be some way . . . . . . >> >> >> HDT's Device Copy does such... > > Thanks Nikolaus > I'll follow it up. Will it work with non-Mac format disks? > Works for backing up my AKAI and Roland formatted Drives (I use 1GB SCSI HDs) as images and to restore them on the same drive - I did not try Zip, but I see no problem, why it should not work. Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 8 12:21:26 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-26129>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 12:21:18 -0400 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26129>; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 12:21:15 -0400 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id JAA04028; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.141) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma004024; Mon, 8 Apr 02 09:31:00 -0700 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g38GKMR17829; Mon, 8 Apr 2002 12:20:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 12:20:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200204081620.g38GKMR17829@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: djboomstick@yahoo.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Problem to make a floppy OS Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:09:39 -0400 | From: DJ boomstick | Subject: Re: sgroup Problem to make a floppy OS | To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca | | actually it will work just fine with windows 98se with | out haveing to reboot to dos | | here is a link to an updated help file for sdisk | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/2280/houseofboom/SDISKFAQ.HTM There's some more recent information on sdisk fron Nic here: http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/utilities/pc/sdisk/ and I'll add a note mentioning that you've had success with windows 98se and I'll update the hints page. Thanks! John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 15:55:01 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19567>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:54:54 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19568>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:54:44 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.114.89]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020409195436.IECM24238.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 19:54:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c1dfff$dd324bc0$5972580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , References: <6-350-403673@teleport1.azoogle.com> Subject: sgroup Sample CDs Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 15:50:54 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey People, I'm pretty tired of my sample CD collection as I have no use for it. I was wondering if anyone would be interested in trading all of my CDs for a Quantum Leap Guitar & Bass for Roland. My CDs are: * Roland Rhythm Section Instruments Vol. 1 * Bob Clearmountain Drums * Roland Preview CD * Roland Sampling Showcase * Alesis D5 Drum Module Sample CD * Zero G Sampling Showcase. I'd be willing to trade all of these CDs for just the Quantum Leap Guitar & Bass CD ROM in Roland format. Please let me know if any of you are interested. Thanks, Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 16:17:18 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19568>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:17:14 -0400 Received: from ctb-mesg1.saix.net ([196.25.240.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19568>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:16:58 -0400 Received: from [155.239.89.181] (ndf53-08-181.gt.saix.net [155.239.89.181]) by ctb-mesg1.saix.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g39KGeK17509; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 22:16:47 +0200 (SAT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@pop.icon.co.za Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000501c1dfff$dd324bc0$5972580c@epu1> References: <6-350-403673@teleport1.azoogle.com> <000501c1dfff$dd324bc0$5972580c@epu1> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:15:46 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs *WARNING* Cc: Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I'm pretty tired of my sample CD collection as I have no use for it. I was >wondering if anyone would be interested in trading all of my CDs for a >Quantum Leap Guitar & Bass for Roland. My CDs are: > >* Roland Rhythm Section Instruments Vol. 1 >* Bob Clearmountain Drums >* Roland Preview CD >* Roland Sampling Showcase >* Alesis D5 Drum Module Sample CD >* Zero G Sampling Showcase. > >I'd be willing to trade all of these CDs for just the Quantum Leap Guitar & >Bass CD ROM in Roland format. Please let me know if any of you are >interested. >Thanks, >Harold You should be aware that this is illegal. When you buy a sample CD, you are purchasing an exclusive licence FOR YOURSELF to use the sounds on that CD. The licence is not transferable or resellable. Think about it: You buy a CD You copy it You sell/trade it Now you have 2 CD's but you haven't paid for one of them. Just for interest, I've quoted a mail from Eric Persing (of Spectrasonics) that was posted to the EXS24 group some time back. Regards - Colin - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Here's some answers to your questions and comments: (BTW, All of this information is always printed on the OUTSIDE of our packages, so if you don't like these policy, you can return the disc unopene= d and get a full refund). >I was sure I could buy a Sample CD and sell it if I wanted I didn=B4t know >I had to die with the Sample Cd in my grave! That's basically it. The license is for a single person. >Of course (if I'm informed correctly) you are allowed to sell or give away >your CDs, but again it's obvious to me that after this you aren't allowed >to use the material any longer by yourself. That's incorrect (see below) >So what happens if let=B4s say I bought a CD and want to sell it I can=B4t >do this either?? Correct. For the same reason that you can't "sell" a license of a James Brow= n recording, even if you bought a license from his record company to use it yourself. You don't own the recordings, so you can't license them or give those rights to someone else. >If I buy a PC game and want to sell it there is nothing illegal about that >so what=B4s the difference in selling a PC game original or a Sample CD >original?? Big difference...you aren't using the game to create a new game. With Sample CDs, you use the recorded material to create your own music recordings. That's why a license is different than a piece of software. (although you should really check the legalities of trading the PC games, different laws apply to software). >Or if the worst thing happens for example It gets stolen or I die and >someone keeps the Sample CD will someone sue my mum and dad???? No worries, legal action would be taken against the thief, not your mum & da= d! >It seems like you third part developers have big problems then because >I=B4ve seen people all over the world trading CD=B4s and what about all the= Mp 3=B4s >with samples from Sample Cd=B4s wich are trade with all the different look >a like Napster programs aren=B4t all those people about 100 million people trading sounds and samples illegally?? You are correct...this is a major problem for our industry. The changes that have taken place in the last few years are massive. But it is the same old argument that if everyone's doing it, then it must be legal. As Napster will tell you, that just isn't the case. >Sometimes it gets very difficult to know If it=B4s legal or not at least > people in the west with internet are not always following the rules and >if those 100 millions are doing soemthing illegal why aren=B4t there people >suing them are they to many to handle??? Certainly, many people do illegal things these days. Lots of lawsuits are happening, but you don't hear about many of them. If you know anyone at a record company, they'll tell you about lots of cases that are going on. It isn't difficult to know the legalities of Sample CD swapping, all of our products come with lots of information in written and audio form explaining what is allowed and what is not. We cannot control if people ignore the laws= , but we do go after people who break the law. There exists several organizations that police this activity, and all the developers in the business share info on who's doing what. >Well Spectrasonics please send me a link with laws because it seems a hell >of a lot easier to get hold of Cd=B4s than knowing the law! Check out the Sound Recording Copyright Act from the US Copyright office. >One question pops up though: >Let's assume I'm doing a remix and there's one single loop in the material >I'm getting, coming from a commercial sample CD. In order to use that singl= e >loop in the remix, will I have to buy the complete CD just because of that? If the original artist has a license, then you are OK to use it only for the remix. If not, you could have legal problems...especially if your remix becomes popular. >The way I'm doing it now is that I streem all tracks from bar 1 to the >end of the song. That doesn't give away the samples, but it gives away the way _I_ used the samples. >I also write on the tracks sheet what samples cd's where used. Nobody could tell me if this is the legal way to do it though... >Maybe somebody from Spectrasonic would comment on this? This is an excellent way of solving the problem -it respects our samples, an= d allows you to deliver the project to the label. Great! >When someone decided to create a samples CD, he absolutely knows that the >CD can be copied ( of course, or he is from a planet called QWERTY !)... >If I bought a CD I can do what I want with... give it to someone, make >a present, put it in the trash or whatever... It is also very easy to go over the speed limit when you are driving a car, but it doesn't mean that you won't get a ticket! Of course we know that it i= s easy to copy, but that doesn't mean that we don't care about it, and that we don't prosecute people that abuse the law. >So if I buy the permission I can=B4t sell it?? >How can Michael Jackson the buy all the Beatles permissions?? It cost over $100 million as I remember. >But I still want an answer If I have an original sample CD can=B4t I change >it with someone else who bought an original sample CD??? No you can't. >Like you said I buy the permission but I must be able to sell my permission >somehow if I want or?? That's what a "non-transferrable, single-user" license means. >You want to be moral about it and realize the clear legal ambiguities of >the different >possible ways of aquiring use of these sounds, but you rationalize it by >telling >yourself that you wouldn't be buying these CDs anyway. So having them to >play around >and experiment with and maybe even occassionaly use on an income generating >project >isn't really costing the sample makers any lost profit because you wouldn't >be buying >them anyway. All of a sudden the crime you are committing seems a bit more >distant. >You feel removed from it. > >Bottom line of course is that we all know that if you aren't paying for >them, then you >shouldn't be using them. At all. You don't pay the money, you shouldn't >be part of the >party. Anyway, I don't have any real point to get at here; I'm just commenting >on the >moral paradigm I see around me all the time; which affects me and that >I am required >to function within. And after all is asaid and done, at the end of the >day, most everyone I know finds a way to sleep decently at night. Rationalization is a beautiful thing! :-) However, obviously you have to draw the line. It isn't a "victimless" crime. Illegal copying, trading and piracy radically affects my family and the musicians who are involved in our projects (they receive royalties from the sales), does that make it easier for you to do the right thing? As this forum regularly points out, there are lots of free and legal alternatives for sounds. They're usually not as good as commercial libraries= , but you get what you pay for. You don't HAVE to use illegally pirated libraries to make a music business for yourself. >What if your not professional and not using it on a pro job, but only using it >for your own personal non professional projects? And based on the cost >to profit ratio you wouldn't normally buy these CDs. Of course it is still >illegal, but is the crime then as "bad"? It would be inconsistent for us to allow non-pros to use our samples on an unlimited basis, while pros had to pay. It would be impossible to track, since many bedroom productions now go on to be major hits. We have to keep i= t simple. >If u'r not professionnal, I mean u don't earn money with u'r music, u can >do what u want ! >I don't know any report of any TRIAL against any kind of user. That's really bad advice. Individual, non-pro users get in trouble for illegal copying and trading all the time. Just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen regularly. Most people that have illegal discs will get in trouble over it, it's usually just a matter of whe= n. >Did those companies invest in research to find a solution to not be able >to copy Cd ? ...no... Yael, you are way off base here. You don't know what any of these companies are doing. If you read the news, you'll see that these days every intellectual property owner who is distributing on CDs/DVDs is working on non-copyable CD technology. It is a huge hassle for everyone, but it is necessary. >it's not a Money problem, even 1 $ ... when u win money u can buy those >Cd, > >if it's an hobby u can do what u want... Your opinion, but not the law. >Here in the UK licences to play music recordings in public places, and >places of work are administered by the PRS (Performing Rights Society) >who collect the licence fees and distribute to the copyright holders as >royalties. PRS, ACAP and BMI are organizations that license the performance of compositions (songwriting). This area of Copyright Law is wholly separate from the Sound Recording copyright. As such, our samples are not covered under any agreements with any of these organizations. You have to buy the disc (license) from an authorized Spectrasonics dealer or distributor. >Maybe we could have a group purchase of a studio and a set of horn players, >and share all the sounds together via rocket!!!!!!!! I would highly recommend this experiment. Everyone involved will have a new appreciation of what is involved to produce a usable patch. Brass in particular is insanely hard. Whew! Long post......hope that helps clarify some of these issues. Best regards, Eric Persing Creative Director Spectrasonics - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 16:38:49 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19567>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:38:42 -0400 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19568>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:38:27 -0400 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A67BD8F for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maridia.blarg.net (vq122.atm01.sea.blarg.net [206.124.140.122] (may be forged)) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30735 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 13:38:18 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020409133740.00be8bd0@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:38:22 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs *WARNING* In-Reply-To: References: <000501c1dfff$dd324bc0$5972580c@epu1> <6-350-403673@teleport1.azoogle.com> <000501c1dfff$dd324bc0$5972580c@epu1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 01:15 PM 4/9/2002, Colin Shapiro wrote: >When you buy a sample CD, you are purchasing an exclusive licence FOR >YOURSELF to use the sounds on that CD. >The licence is not transferable or resellable. Holy crapamoley. Good thing I'm not a sample CD fan, I was not aware of this at all. Now I *definitely* won't be buying any sample CDs. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 17:06:03 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19568>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:05:56 -0400 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19568>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:05:50 -0400 Received: from user-2ive1ee.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.206] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16v2o5-00028O-00; Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:05:38 -0400 Message-ID: <3CB357F0.897E1821@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:06:56 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs References: <6-350-403673@teleport1.azoogle.com> <000501c1dfff$dd324bc0$5972580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > * Zero G Sampling Showcase. Is this CD any good? It's in Akai format, right? Have you loaded much of it into your S-760? My local GuitarCenter has TONS of sample CDs very cheap but except for the ones that tell you EXACTLY what the format is, they have no clue. There was a copy of 'Malice in Wonderland' for about $20 which, judging from the online demo, is a very nice collection of FX and atmospheric samples, but no one in the store could tell me whether it was Akai or audio CD. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 17:06:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19567>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:06:51 -0400 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19567>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:06:36 -0400 Received: from user-2ive1ee.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.206] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16v2oi-0000dc-00; Tue, 09 Apr 2002 17:06:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3CB3581B.15CD15B0@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 17:07:39 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Colin Shapiro , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs *WARNING* References: <6-350-403673@teleport1.azoogle.com> <000501c1dfff$dd324bc0$5972580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Colin Shapiro wrote: > Best regards, > > Eric Persing > Creative Director > Spectrasonics Hey, cool! For a minute there I thought Eric Persing was on this list. 8-) Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 21:37:50 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19567>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 21:37:42 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19567>; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 21:37:36 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.122]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020410013732.KTXU38.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Wed, 10 Apr 2002 01:37:32 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c1e02f$c4ef8200$7a50580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Jesse Segovia" , , References: <6-350-403673@teleport1.azoogle.com> <000501c1dfff$dd324bc0$5972580c@epu1> <3CB357F0.897E1821@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Sample CDs Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 21:33:49 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Jesse, The Zero G sampling showcase is an audio CD that came with my old Roland SP202 sampler. It has a ton of good dance, FX, acoustic, etc sounds. The CD came out in 1998. It's sort of like the Roland sampling showcase, but a lot more updated. Side Question: The license isn't transferable? No wonder people spend time creating their own sounds or sampling stuff themselves. This makes me want to sell that S760 and go and get a Roland XV5050 w/ the SRX Drums Board. Later, Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 16:20:05 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19080>; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:19:56 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19080>; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:19:50 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.81.133]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020411201946.ETGY24238.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:19:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c1e195$b33ed260$8551580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup Roland Crazy! Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:15:59 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E174.2B284580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E174.2B284580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I just came back from my friend's studio. Unlike some of us, this guy = has crazy money - To the nines. Anyway, my friend's rack consisted of 16 = Roland XV5080. He told me that he hates the way patches sound in = performance mode, and the lack of flexibility, but loves the sounds of = the patches. So, this guy went out and got 16 Roland XV5080's, patched = them through two MIDI merge boxes, and controls all of the them from his = Cubase Sequencer. Now that is amazing - Could you imagine this? Now, I'm thinking that if Roland stocked their XV5080 with 16 separate = FXs, he would've only bought one. What do you think of that?! Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E174.2B284580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I just came back from my friend's = studio. Unlike=20 some of us, this guy has crazy money - To the nines. Anyway, my friend's = rack=20 consisted of 16 Roland XV5080. He told me that he hates the way patches = sound in=20 performance mode, and the lack of flexibility, but loves the sounds of = the=20 patches. So, this guy went out and got 16 Roland XV5080's, patched them = through=20 two MIDI merge boxes, and controls all of the them from his Cubase = Sequencer.=20 Now that is amazing - Could you imagine this?
 
Now, I'm thinking that if Roland = stocked their=20 XV5080 with 16 separate FXs, he would've only bought one.
 
What do you think of = that?!
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E174.2B284580-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 20:15:00 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19079>; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:14:53 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19079>; Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:14:42 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.118]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020412001437.HWEN38.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:14:37 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c1e1b6$81e2b3a0$7655580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , References: Subject: sgroup How do you install a Zip drive in your S760? Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 20:10:50 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E194.F9CDAD60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E194.F9CDAD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This message was sent to you as a Valued equalaMAIL subscriber on behalf = of: CD MicroHey All, I've seen many music stores and setups where people have internal Zip = Drives in place of their floppy drives on their S760. How is this done? Thanks, harold ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E194.F9CDAD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This message was sent to you as a Valued equalaMAIL = subscriber on behalf of: CD Micro
Hey All,
 
I've seen many music stores and setups = where people=20 have internal Zip Drives in place of their floppy drives on their S760. = How is=20 this done?
 
Thanks,
harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1E194.F9CDAD60-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 12 09:23:48 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-21542>; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:23:42 -0400 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21542>; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:23:32 -0400 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id GAA14809; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 06:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.141) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma014807; Fri, 12 Apr 02 06:33:10 -0700 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3CDMV005502 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:22:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from hotmail.com (f76.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.76]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-21542>; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 03:03:51 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 00:03:41 -0700 Received: from 194.237.142.30 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:03:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.237.142.30] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: sgroup Roland Crazy! Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 03:03:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2002 07:03:41.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[2D4A28C0:01C1E1F0] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk LOL :) I just love that attitude.. ;-). I read an article about Hans Zimmer a couple of years ago, and he also had a full stack of roland machines (more like 8 S760:s) which he for example used when he wrote the score for The Lion King. When you hear about this guy with the "pile" of 5080:s, you just get amazed:-) Regards Daniel > >Hey All, > >I just came back from my friend's studio. Unlike some of us, this guy has >crazy money - To the nines. Anyway, my friend's rack consisted of 16 Roland >XV5080. He told me that he hates the way patches sound in performance mode, >and the lack of flexibility, but loves the sounds of the patches. So, this >guy went out and got 16 Roland XV5080's, patched them through two MIDI >merge boxes, and controls all of the them from his Cubase Sequencer. Now >that is amazing - Could you imagine this? > >Now, I'm thinking that if Roland stocked their XV5080 with 16 separate FXs, >he would've only bought one. > >What do you think of that?! > >Later, >Harold _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 22 06:57:38 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-17495>; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 06:57:33 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17495>; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 06:57:18 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.115.22]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020422105708.TBUP28245.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 10:57:08 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c1e9eb$da8dd880$1673580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup So what's the deal w/the S760 and Windows? Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 06:52:52 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1E9CA.52899B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1E9CA.52899B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everybody, So what's going on? Have we had any progress on finding a solution for a = driver problem, or addressing why Windows won't recognize the Roland = S7xx series? Is anyone working on a driver?=20 Also, has any checked out the Yamaha A4000/5000 series? This sampler can = burn CDs directly from itself! Later, Harold Everton, Jr. E.D. - Everton Records, Div. www.evertonrecords.com ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1E9CA.52899B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Everybody,
 
So what's going on? Have we had any = progress on=20 finding a solution for a driver problem, or addressing why Windows won't = recognize the Roland S7xx series? Is anyone working on a driver? =
 
Also, has any checked out the Yamaha = A4000/5000=20 series? This sampler can burn CDs directly from itself!
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
E.D. - Everton Records, = Div.
www.evertonrecords.com<= /DIV>
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1E9CA.52899B20-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 22 11:20:49 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-17494>; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:20:40 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17494>; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:20:37 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3MFKYU52812 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 11:20:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from relay-2.m.channel4.co.uk ([216.239.208.98]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17495>; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 08:05:43 -0400 Received: from fw-1 (fw-qfe3.channel4.co.uk [216.239.208.110]) by relay-2.m.channel4.co.uk (OBJL-MAIL-2.3-CTL) with SMTP for id MAA03359; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:04:44 GMT Received: from ([150.135.97.133]) by fw-1; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:03:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: by CAMOMILE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:05:53 -0000 Message-ID: <7F48CDC05EA8D511AE6F009027DCF3C424F44F@HEMLOCK> From: Paul Boobyer To: "'sgroup@lists.uunet.ca'" Subject: sgroup DD disk capacity Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 09:07:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi everyone I've recently bought an s330 and I've been downloading the s550 sounds from the archive. When I try to use sdisk to copy them to DD disks I get that old disk size too small/too large message. I've seen some other posts with this problem but no satisfactory answers. I've noticed that PC-formatted 720k DD disks only have a maximum capacity of 730k (when you right-click on the drive and check properties) but the s550 files are 737k. So how is this possible? Is the s330 supposed to format them with a larger capacity than if they were formatted on a PC? Do DD disks have a larger capacity within MS-DOS or with an old DD drive? Do older (80s) DD disks have a larger capacity? Do you have larger capacity DD disks in the States/Canada (unlikely, I know) - I live in the UK. I've formatted the disks in the s330 and still get the same message. I'm running sdisk in an MS-DOS shell on a Windows ME machine. Do I really have to reboot in MS-DOS mode? Someone claimed in a post that sdisk worked fine on Windows SE. Someone please help. BTW - the WAV2S550 utilities are great and work fine on my PC. I'd just love to have access to that S550 library and the 1.03 upgrade for the s330. Cheers Paul B Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmaster@channel4.co.uk - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 22 17:27:39 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-17495>; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:27:34 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f26.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.26]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17495>; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:27:19 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:27:09 -0700 Received: from 209.244.231.98 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:27:09 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.231.98] From: "brad allen" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup s770 compatible CD-ROM drives? Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:27:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2002 21:27:09.0927 (UTC) FILETIME=[75DE6770:01C1EA44] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk
Hello eveyone,
 
I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of CD-ROM drives known to work with the s770.
I have tried 3 now to no avail :-(
 
hopefully,
Brad

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To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200204221758_MC3-FB03-4645@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of CD-ROM drives known to wor= k >with the s770. Apple CD300 seems to work. Very cheap on ebay |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 23 03:14:42 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-6508>; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 03:14:36 -0400 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.89]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-6508>; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 03:14:22 -0400 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16zuV6-000I59-0V for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:14:09 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 03:07:45 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick To: Subject: Re: sgroup s770 compatible CD-ROM drives? References: <200204221758_MC3-FB03-4645@compuserve.com> In-Reply-To: <200204221758_MC3-FB03-4645@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message <200204221758_MC3-FB03-4645@compuserve.com>, dennis barton writes > > >I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of CD-ROM drives known to work > >with the s770. > >Apple CD300 seems to work. > >Very cheap on ebay Any Toshiba (512 byte block size) should work - I have an old Toshiba CD-ROM in a CD300 case that I use for my GEM Equinox, but generally anything that would work with a Unix box will work with samplers. Richard -- Richard Kilpatrick, long haired prophet of doom. |\ _,,,---,,_ Musical suicide - www.mp3.com/RichardKilpatrick /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, Work: Icon Publications, Group Sales Manager |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 23 04:23:00 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-6507>; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 04:22:53 -0400 Received: from monsoon.mail.pipex.net ([158.43.128.69]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-6507>; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 04:22:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 11540 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2002 08:22:37 -0000 Received: from usercd168.dsl.pipex.com (HELO abit) (62.190.235.168) by smtp-1.dial.pipex.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2002 08:22:37 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Glyn" To: "brad allen" , Subject: RE: sgroup s770 compatible CD-ROM drives? Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 04:22:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1EAA8.6C68D720" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1EAA8.6C68D720 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0007_01C1EAA8.6C68D720" ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C1EAA8.6C68D720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Brad, Some time ago Roland published the attached list. As it says it is a list of TESTED drives - you may find for example that an unlisted drive works perfectly. I use a Plextor PX-20TSi with my S760 and that works perfectly - I guess if you stick to the branded names mentioned on the list some newer drives may work OK also. Although it is tempting to use the fastest drive you can find (ie 40x) I have found it is actually slower in practice than using one rated at 12-20x because where the quicker drive takes some time to come up to speed before its contents can be read the 'slower' drive has already come up to speed and is transferring data. As we are not usually transferring huge files the slower of the drives can actually be quicker! I have attached the html file - if there is any difficulty in reading it please let me know and I will cut & paste it in the body of another post. You may want to try the following link - scroll down the list until you find S-760 Digital sampler - most of the info would apply to the S-770 as well I guess. http://www.rolandus.com/support/DOCS/SUPNOTES.HTM Regards, -=Glyn=- -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of brad allen Sent: 22 April 2002 22:27 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup s770 compatible CD-ROM drives? Hello eveyone, I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of CD-ROM drives known to work with the s770. I have tried 3 now to no avail :-( hopefully, Brad ------=_NextPart_001_0007_01C1EAA8.6C68D720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 Brad,
 
Some=20 time ago Roland published the attached list.
 
As it=20 says it is a list of TESTED drives - you may find for=20 example that an unlisted drive works perfectly.
 
I use=20 a Plextor PX-20TSi with my S760 and that works perfectly - I guess if = you stick=20 to the branded names mentioned on the list some newer drives may work OK = also.
 
Although it is tempting to use the fastest drive you can find = (ie 40x) I=20 have found it is actually slower in practice than using one rated at = 12-20x=20 because where the quicker drive takes some time to come up to speed = before its=20 contents can be read the 'slower' drive has already come up to speed and = is=20 transferring data.
As we=20 are not usually transferring huge files the slower of the drives can = actually be=20 quicker!
 
I have=20 attached the html file - if there is any difficulty in reading it please = let me=20 know and I will cut & paste it in the body of another=20 post.
 
You=20 may want to try the following link - scroll down the list until you find = S-760=20 Digital sampler - most of the info would apply to the S-770 as well I=20 guess.
 
http://www.rol= andus.com/support/DOCS/SUPNOTES.HTM

Regards,

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Hello eveyone,
 
I was wondering if anyone knows of a list of CD-ROM drives known = to work=20 with the s770.
I have tried 3 now to no avail :-(
 
hopefully,
Brad
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From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 23 17:38:18 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-6507>; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:38:12 -0400 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.99]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-6507>; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:38:06 -0400 Received: from Route66Studios@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.41.1c100175 (15877) for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netscape.com (mow-m17.webmail.aol.com [64.12.180.133]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v84.14) with ESMTP id MAILINID74-0423173745; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:37:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:33:46 -0400 Illegal-Object: Syntax error in From: address found on hugin.uunet.ca: From: Route 66 Studios@aol.com ^ ^-illegal special character in phrase \-extraneous tokens in mailbox From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re:Re: sgroup MU1 mouse Message-ID: <669A3747.328EBD25.42F455C2@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I am working on an replacement mouse for the Roland S series samplers that will run about $25.00 comes in black with a Roland logo. 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From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 13:03:03 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:03:02 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natwar.webmailer.de [192.67.198.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:02:41 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB18B7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.24.183]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA26447 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:02:34 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3OH0XB01532 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:00:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:00:32 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: sgroup Roland S-330 Message-ID: <20020424190032.A1506@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a Roland S-330 with the latest System and Utility Software, but I'm still searching for the "Director-S" sequencer software. Does anyone have that? And if, can I get it as a SDisk image? BTW, does anyone have "Hammond B3" samples for the S-330/550/50? Or something of the old/new Wersi-Organs? bye, Martin -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 13:13:57 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:13:52 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:13:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 7922 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2002 17:13:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Apr 2002 17:13:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020424190032.A1506@martin.unix-net> References: <20020424190032.A1506@martin.unix-net> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:13:24 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I have a Roland S-330 with the latest System and Utility Software, but >I'm still searching for the "Director-S" sequencer software. Does >anyone have that? And if, can I get it as a SDisk image? If my memory serves me correctly, the disk will do you no good unless you have the hardware dongle to plug in to the 330. -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 13:24:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:24:08 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:24:02 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB18B7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.24.183]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA19660 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:23:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3OHLlp01573 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:21:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:21:47 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Message-ID: <20020424192147.A1567@martin.unix-net> References: <20020424190032.A1506@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, what dongle do you mean? Roland told me that the "Director-S" had come on a disk with a key-code. A friend told me that he has a director-s for his S-50, and he don't has a dongle or something other. Martin On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 01:13:24PM -0400, omz wrote: > >I have a Roland S-330 with the latest System and Utility Software, but > >I'm still searching for the "Director-S" sequencer software. Does > >anyone have that? And if, can I get it as a SDisk image? > > If my memory serves me correctly, the disk will do you no good unless > you have the hardware dongle to plug in to the 330. > > > -- > ________________________ > omz > > beautamous loaf recordings > http://www.hotweird.com/loaf > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 13:33:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:33:09 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:33:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 19027 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2002 17:32:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Apr 2002 17:32:57 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020424192147.A1567@martin.unix-net> References: <20020424190032.A1506@martin.unix-net> <20020424192147.A1567@martin.unix-net> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:32:45 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >what dongle do you mean? Roland told me that the "Director-S" had come >on a disk with a key-code. A friend told me that he has a director-s >for his S-50, and he don't has a dongle or something other. I used Director-S on my S-50 years ago, and it used a hardware dongle I had to plug into the keyboard or the sequencer would not launch. -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 13:42:48 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:42:41 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:42:26 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB18B7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.24.183]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA09057 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:42:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3OHeGS01602 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 19:40:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:40:16 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Message-ID: <20020424194016.B1567@martin.unix-net> References: <20020424190032.A1506@martin.unix-net> <20020424192147.A1567@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi again, :-) what was that dongle like? Was it an IC or what? I remeber that my friend told me that he had a demo-version of the director-s an that he had cracked it, anyway. bye On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 01:32:45PM -0400, omz wrote: > >what dongle do you mean? Roland told me that the "Director-S" had come > >on a disk with a key-code. A friend told me that he has a director-s > >for his S-50, and he don't has a dongle or something other. > > I used Director-S on my S-50 years ago, and it used a hardware dongle > I had to plug into the keyboard or the sequencer would not launch. > > > -- > ________________________ > omz > > beautamous loaf recordings > http://www.hotweird.com/loaf > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 13:45:40 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:45:34 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail14.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.214]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:45:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 27838 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2002 17:45:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail14.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Apr 2002 17:45:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020424194016.B1567@martin.unix-net> References: <20020424190032.A1506@martin.unix-net> <20020424192147.A1567@martin.unix-net> <20020424194016.B1567@martin.unix-net> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:45:15 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Hi again, :-) > >what was that dongle like? Was it an IC or what? Not sure...it was a little plug that plugged into the back of the S-50. -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 13:57:24 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:57:15 -0400 Received: from siaag2ae.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.135]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:57:05 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2ae.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id NAA21806 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 13:56:38 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Roland S-330 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200204241356_MC3-FB4B-86E5@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If I recall, the dongle plugged into the mouse jack, and is needed to record, but not for playback. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 14:05:44 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:05:38 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:05:27 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB18B7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.24.183]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA01707 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:05:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3OI3Kx01656 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:03:20 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:03:20 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Message-ID: <20020424200320.C1567@martin.unix-net> References: <200204241356_MC3-FB4B-86E5@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200204241356_MC3-FB4B-86E5@compuserve.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk O.k., but, I told so, my friend didn't have any dongle. he used the director-s without any dongle or something other. I think there must be a way to get the director-s to work without this dongle. Can anyone send me the sdisk image of that software? I want to test. On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 01:56:38PM -0400, dennis barton wrote: > > If I recall, the dongle plugged into the mouse jack, and is needed to > record, but not for playback. > > |_e_/~ Dennis Barton > ) skylab2000 > ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles > / http://skylab2000.com > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 14:54:32 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:54:24 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:54:17 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB18B7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.24.183]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA16663 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:54:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3OIpvX01733 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:51:57 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:51:57 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: sgroup Samples for Roland S-50/550/330 Message-ID: <20020424205157.D1567@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Me again, what about samples for the S-50/550/330? Does anyone have have some interesting Hammond B3 (or other) samples? I'm also searching for synths and drums. bye eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 16:33:05 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:32:55 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:32:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 23108 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2002 20:32:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Apr 2002 20:32:42 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020424200320.C1567@martin.unix-net> References: <200204241356_MC3-FB4B-86E5@compuserve.com> <20020424200320.C1567@martin.unix-net> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 16:32:31 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >O.k., but, I told so, my friend didn't have any dongle. he used the >director-s without any dongle or something other. > >I think there must be a way to get the director-s to work without this >dongle. Sure, its called piracy :) Good luck! -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 17:40:36 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:40:27 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natwar.webmailer.de [192.67.198.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27229>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:40:24 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB18B7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.24.183]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA28841 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:40:15 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3OLcFM02065 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 23:38:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:38:15 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Message-ID: <20020424233815.E1567@martin.unix-net> References: <200204241356_MC3-FB4B-86E5@compuserve.com> <20020424200320.C1567@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk yes, you're right. but i think, this sampler is old an so is the software. Roland doesn't have it anymore. who cares about if anyone cracks it? I don't know how to do something like that, but Linus Torvalds wasn't born as programmer, too. he lerned it. and i think it's interessting to learn new thinks, even when it's "piracy" :-) On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 04:32:31PM -0400, omz wrote: > >O.k., but, I told so, my friend didn't have any dongle. he used the > >director-s without any dongle or something other. > > > >I think there must be a way to get the director-s to work without this > >dongle. > > Sure, its called piracy :) > > Good luck! > -- > ________________________ > omz > > beautamous loaf recordings > http://www.hotweird.com/loaf > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 17:48:13 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:48:04 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail17.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.217]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:48:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 21839 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2002 21:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail17.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Apr 2002 21:43:37 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020424233815.E1567@martin.unix-net> References: <200204241356_MC3-FB4B-86E5@compuserve.com> <20020424200320.C1567@martin.unix-net> <20020424233815.E1567@martin.unix-net> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 17:43:27 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >yes, you're right. but i think, this sampler is old an so is the >software. Roland doesn't have it anymore. who cares about if anyone >cracks it? I don't know how to do something like that, but Linus >Torvalds wasn't born as programmer, too. he lerned it. and i think >it's interessting to learn new thinks, even when it's "piracy" :-) I doubt Roland gives a shit at this point. Have fun! But man that sequencer is a pain in the ass! -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 18:03:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:03:31 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:03:15 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB18B7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.24.183]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA11213 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:03:12 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3OM19f02122 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 00:01:09 +0200 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:01:09 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 Message-ID: <20020425000109.F1567@martin.unix-net> References: <200204241356_MC3-FB4B-86E5@compuserve.com> <20020424200320.C1567@martin.unix-net> <20020424233815.E1567@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If that sequencer is a pain in the ass or not, I want to test it, but for that, I first have to find or get it. And so we are at the beginning: has anyone an SDisk Image of the "Director-S" for the S-330 for me? :-) and BTW, I'm still searching for Hammond B3 and other organ samples. On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 05:43:27PM -0400, omz wrote: > >yes, you're right. but i think, this sampler is old an so is the > >software. Roland doesn't have it anymore. who cares about if anyone > >cracks it? I don't know how to do something like that, but Linus > >Torvalds wasn't born as programmer, too. he lerned it. and i think > >it's interessting to learn new thinks, even when it's "piracy" :-) > > I doubt Roland gives a shit at this point. Have fun! > > But man that sequencer is a pain in the ass! > > > -- > ________________________ > omz > > beautamous loaf recordings > http://www.hotweird.com/loaf > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Apr 24 18:45:29 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:45:21 -0400 Received: from siaag1ac.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27230>; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:45:11 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id SAA00243 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:45:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:43:03 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Roland S-330 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200204241843_MC3-FB52-E94@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >yes, you're right. but i think, this sampler is old an so is the software. >Roland doesn't have it anymore. who cares about if anyone cracks it? I don't >know how to do something like that, but Linus Torvalds wasn't born as >programmer, too. he lerned it. and i think it's interessting to learn n= ew >thinks, even when it's "piracy" :-) I agree. This is an old product with no support. There are no victims at all if someone cracked it. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Apr 25 09:21:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-14819>; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:21:45 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-14818>; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:21:35 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3PDLP664617 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:21:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from addr26.addr.com ([209.249.147.185]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-14819>; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:26:19 -0400 Received: from tiger (du36001.mlf.ptd.net [204.186.36.1]) by addr26.addr.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) with SMTP id g3PCOo769213 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:24:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mal@ultralight-hiking.com)(envelope-to ) Message-ID: <005b01c1ec54$3456db40$0124bacc@tiger> From: "MAL" To: References: <1019735729.640.51452.m12@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Subject: sgroup Samples for Roland S-50/550/330 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:24:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Martin, check out this site: http://www.c-trl.com/w30/s50.html Cheers, Marius ---------- > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:51:57 -0400 > From: Martin Wulff > Subject: sgroup Samples for Roland S-50/550/330 > > Me again, > > what about samples for the S-50/550/330? Does anyone have have some > interesting Hammond B3 (or other) samples? > I'm also searching for synths and drums. > > bye > > > eMail : Martin Wulff - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Apr 25 09:29:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-14819>; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:29:16 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-14819>; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:29:01 -0400 Received: from tux.unix-net (pD9EB18B7.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.24.183]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA06344 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:28:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by tux.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3PCPbJ30552 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 14:25:37 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:25:37 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: Subject: sgroup Samples for Roland S-50/550/330 Message-ID: <20020425142537.B30539@tux.unix-net> References: <1019735729.640.51452.m12@yahoogroups.com> <005b01c1ec54$3456db40$0124bacc@tiger> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <005b01c1ec54$3456db40$0124bacc@tiger> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks, but I allready have these disks. The sound are very good, but i need some "real" hammond samples and so on. The drums are o.k., but there are no organs like the hammond. martin On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 08:24:52AM -0400, MAL wrote: > Hey Martin, check out this site: > > http://www.c-trl.com/w30/s50.html > > Cheers, > Marius > ---------- > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:51:57 -0400 > > From: Martin Wulff > > Subject: sgroup Samples for Roland S-50/550/330 > > > > Me again, > > > > what about samples for the S-50/550/330? Does anyone have have some > > interesting Hammond B3 (or other) samples? > > I'm also searching for synths and drums. > > > > bye > > > > > > eMail : Martin Wulff > > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Apr 25 19:24:34 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-14819>; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:24:28 -0400 Received: from ares.idirect.com ([207.136.80.180]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-14818>; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:24:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (CPE0003934e45d2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.156.141.32]) by ares.idirect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA20490 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:24:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 19:22:49 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Director-S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) From: Steve Cowan To: SGroup Mailinglist Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20020424205157.D1567@martin.unix-net> Message-Id: <5BE0E7D0-58A3-11D6-B71A-0003934E45D2@idirect.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Not sure if this has been covered yet, but I have Director-S for the S-330, *somewhere...* Yes you need to use the dongle the first time you want to save or record since you last loaded the software. It's an interesting piece of sequencer history, but not very practical... I got it because I needed a sequencer in a hurry and didn't have a lot of space. The S-330 will load a complete bank of samples while you use Director-S, and you can sequence external MIDI stuff as well. The problem is that you create a song by stringing together "sequences" - but each sequence can have a maximum of a ridiculously low number of events - something like 255, but maybe even fewer, like 128 or something. I found I always had to break a song of any complexity up into 2-bar or 4-bar chunks. Forget about recording a solo or something in real time! Director-S has little going for it in the way of elegance, but it does indeed work, and if you have the patience, it makes a nice way to take your songs with you on the road. I would not part with my Director-S I don't think because it's one of those things I "might" need one day. Unless of course I sell my S-330, which is quite likely within the next year or so. Steve Cowan (nebula) ---- Even though I hate auto-signatures, you should be aware: my email address has changed to reverb@rogers.com. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 09:09:48 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:09:39 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:09:29 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3QD9Pq16654 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:09:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 04:01:44 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-51-230.tnt8.me2.uunet.de [149.225.51.230]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id KAA21010 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:01:35 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3CC7FFB9.E75DD3DB@cityweb.de> Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:08:09 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S-330 References: <200204241356_MC3-FB4B-86E5@compuserve.com> <20020424200320.C1567@martin.unix-net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk omz wrote: > >I think there must be a way to get the director-s to work without this > >dongle. > > Sure, its called piracy :) Someone who is able to crack director-s must have very good knowledge of the S-330's operating software. If someone really did that I wish that person had spend his/her time with something more useful. How about real-time control of start/loop/end points? Real-time control of filter resonance? Lots of possibilities. There are already plenty of sequencers available, no? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 09:53:02 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:52:52 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natpost.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:52:45 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB0E66.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.14.102]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA27354 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:52:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3QDofM01772 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:50:41 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:50:41 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: sgroup S-330 Message-ID: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk O.k., I think it's really better to forget this idea (cracking the director-s). It will be a very complicated thing to do, and my sequencer software on PC works fine. So, thanks for all the messages and "forget my idea" :-) Martin -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 10:09:54 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:09:44 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail13.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.213]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:09:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 22252 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2002 14:09:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail13.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2002 14:09:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> References: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:10:39 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >O.k., I think it's really better to forget this idea (cracking the >director-s). It will be a very complicated thing to do, and my >sequencer software on PC works fine. So, thanks for all the messages >and "forget my idea" :-) Trust me, you'll be much happier with the PC-based sequencer :) -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 10:27:46 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:27:38 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natwar.webmailer.de [192.67.198.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:27:28 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB0E66.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.14.102]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA13547 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:27:24 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3QEPNm01857 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 16:25:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:25:23 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 Message-ID: <20020426162523.D1370@martin.unix-net> References: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk BTW, what sequencer are used by the members of these group? I'm using Cakewalk Home Studio. > > Trust me, you'll be much happier with the PC-based sequencer :) > > -- > > > > ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- > omz > > beautamous loaf recordings > http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 10:36:09 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:36:00 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail13.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.213]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:35:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 2646 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2002 14:35:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail13.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2002 14:35:52 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020426162523.D1370@martin.unix-net> References: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> <20020426162523.D1370@martin.unix-net> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:36:53 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >BTW, what sequencer are used by the members of these group? I'm using >Cakewalk Home Studio. I'm sticking with Studio Vision Pro until I am forced to migrate to OSX :P -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 10:42:43 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:42:36 -0400 Received: from mail.infochan.com ([208.52.68.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:42:32 -0400 Received: from [66.205.25.110] by mail.infochan.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 09:36:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> <20020426162523.D1370@martin.unix-net> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:42:22 -0400 To: omz , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:36 am -0400 26/4/2002, omz wrote: >>BTW, what sequencer are used by the members of these group? I'm using >>Cakewalk Home Studio. > >I'm sticking with Studio Vision Pro until I am forced to migrate to OSX :P > >-- > wow, so you are the other person who still uses it ;) rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 10:44:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:44:09 -0400 Received: from intmailvw05.lear.com (39.lear.com [63.68.196.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:43:59 -0400 Received: from 10.96.80.203 by intmailvw05.lear.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:43:53 -0400 Received: by inet-imc-05.dearborn01a.lear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2Z3W1YLA>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:43:51 -0400 Message-ID: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DBC2B5C@oakville.oakville.lear.com> From: "Gallagher, Jon" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup S-330 Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:43:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'm going for the retro-freak award.... I use a Yamaha QX1 exclusively....*lol* > -----Original Message----- > From: omz [SMTP:omz23@speakeasy.net] > Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:37 AM > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 > > >BTW, what sequencer are used by the members of these group? I'm using > >Cakewalk Home Studio. > > I'm sticking with Studio Vision Pro until I am forced to migrate to OSX > :P > > -- > > > > ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- > omz > > beautamous loaf recordings > http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 10:50:11 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:50:05 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f63.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.63]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:49:50 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 07:49:45 -0700 Received: from 198.208.223.35 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:49:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.208.223.35] From: "Clashow Barker II" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Re: software Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:49:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Apr 2002 14:49:45.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AEC91A0:01C1ED31] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk

I am using Logic Audio Platinum 4.7.




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>From: Martin Wulff
>To: SGroup Mailinglist
>Subject: Re: sgroup S-330
>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:25:23 -0400
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- Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 10:52:03 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193720-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:51:53 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail17.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.217]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193717-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:51:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 7779 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2002 14:51:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail17.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2002 14:51:36 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> <20020426162523.D1370@martin.unix-net> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:52:36 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >At 11:36 am -0400 26/4/2002, omz wrote: >>>BTW, what sequencer are used by the members of these group? I'm using >>>Cakewalk Home Studio. >> >>I'm sticking with Studio Vision Pro until I am forced to migrate to OSX :P >> >>-- >> > > >wow, so you are the other person who still uses it ;) It's still the best around. I've been *ahem* forced to use Cubase for recent projects at my partner's studio, and while it gets the job done, the list editing functions are sorely lacking. It's truly a sad thing :( -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 10:55:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:55:45 -0400 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:55:35 -0400 Received: from user-2ive1fr.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.251] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 171780-0005aI-00; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:55:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3CC96A8D.CC73ADE9@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:56:13 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Wulff , Sampler Group Subject: Sequencers [was: Re: sgroup S-330] References: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> <20020426162523.D1370@martin.unix-net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'm most familiar with Dr. T's KCS on the Atari ST1040 but Dr T's has been unsupported for years, and my Atari is starting to do funny things. 8-( Recently I bought Midisoft's Studio Six for the obscenely low price of $9.99 with the assurance from the salesman at GuitarCenter that this sequencer will do everything I need it to (which is only on the MIDI side - I have an A4416 DAW so I don't need any audio stuff) but so far it seems more like a toy. I'm used to starting with basic tracks and building individual sequences like intro, verse or chorus, and then assembling song files from those. But people tell me there's no real way to work like that in the popular PC based sequencers - it seems to be loop-based stuff like Acid or piano roll stuff from beginning of a song to end. I guess you can grab and copy whole chunks of a song like a verse and then paste it again after your chorus but I'm told it's very inconvenient. True? Jesse Martin Wulff wrote: > > BTW, what sequencer are used by the members of these group? I'm using > Cakewalk Home Studio. > > > > > Trust me, you'll be much happier with the PC-based sequencer :) > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- > > omz > > > > beautamous loaf recordings > > http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > -- > eMail : Martin Wulff > ICQ : 75752326 > AIM : MuMaWu > -------------------------------------------- > Public Key: > Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 11:10:45 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:10:38 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:10:32 -0400 Received: (qmail 7196 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2002 15:10:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2002 15:10:28 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3CC96A8D.CC73ADE9@mindspring.com> References: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> <20020426162523.D1370@martin.unix-net> <3CC96A8D.CC73ADE9@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:11:29 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: Sequencers [was: Re: sgroup S-330] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I'm used to starting with basic tracks and building individual sequences >like intro, verse or chorus, and then assembling song files from those. >But people tell me there's no real way to work like that in the popular >PC based sequencers - it seems to be loop-based stuff like Acid or piano >roll stuff from beginning of a song to end. I guess you can grab and >copy whole chunks of a song like a verse and then paste it again after >your chorus but I'm told it's very inconvenient. True? In Studio Vision you can do just that. You create subsequences, in your case verse, chorus, etc., and can then compile them into a master sequence. I'm going to cry now (RIP Opcode) -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 11:12:10 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:12:04 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:11:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 8481 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2002 15:11:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO REMUS) ([64.81.118.177]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2002 15:11:43 -0000 From: "john sikes johnson" To: "Sampler Group" Subject: RE: Sequencers [was: Re: sgroup S-330] Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:07:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3CC96A8D.CC73ADE9@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk been a fan of cubase for a long long time -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Jesse Segovia Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 9:56 AM To: Martin Wulff; Sampler Group Subject: Sequencers [was: Re: sgroup S-330] I'm most familiar with Dr. T's KCS on the Atari ST1040 but Dr T's has been unsupported for years, and my Atari is starting to do funny things. 8-( Recently I bought Midisoft's Studio Six for the obscenely low price of $9.99 with the assurance from the salesman at GuitarCenter that this sequencer will do everything I need it to (which is only on the MIDI side - I have an A4416 DAW so I don't need any audio stuff) but so far it seems more like a toy. I'm used to starting with basic tracks and building individual sequences like intro, verse or chorus, and then assembling song files from those. But people tell me there's no real way to work like that in the popular PC based sequencers - it seems to be loop-based stuff like Acid or piano roll stuff from beginning of a song to end. I guess you can grab and copy whole chunks of a song like a verse and then paste it again after your chorus but I'm told it's very inconvenient. True? Jesse Martin Wulff wrote: > > BTW, what sequencer are used by the members of these group? I'm using > Cakewalk Home Studio. > > > > > Trust me, you'll be much happier with the PC-based sequencer :) > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- > > omz > > > > beautamous loaf recordings > > http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > -- > eMail : Martin Wulff > ICQ : 75752326 > AIM : MuMaWu > -------------------------------------------- > Public Key: > Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 11:13:00 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:12:51 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f178.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.178]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193717-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:12:45 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:12:43 -0700 Received: from 198.208.6.35 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:12:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [198.208.6.35] From: "Clashow Barker II" To: jsegovia@mindspring.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: Sequencers [was: Re: sgroup S-330] Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:12:43 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Apr 2002 15:12:43.0377 (UTC) FILETIME=[D069EE10:01C1ED34] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk

With Logic Audio( I use the Windows version) , you can cut and paste quick and easy. I  learned my sequencing basics from the Director-S software that came with my S-50. It was cumbersome, but I learned to build up tracks, micro-edit note vales,and compensate for odd time signatures. I use Logic Audio with a Delta 1010 handling the audio I/Os.



Clay Barker

>From: Jesse Segovia
>To: Martin Wulff , Sampler Group
>Subject: Sequencers [was: Re: sgroup S-330]
>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:56:13 -0400
>
>I'm most familiar with Dr. T's KCS on the Atari ST1040 but Dr T's has
>been unsupported for years, and my Atari is starting to do funny
>things. 8-( Recently I bought Midisoft's Studio Six for the obscenely
>low price of $9.99 with the assurance from the salesman at GuitarCenter
>that this sequencer will do everything I need it to (which is only on
>the MIDI side - I have an A4416 DAW so I don't need any audio stuff) but
>so far it seems more like a toy.
>
>I'm used to starting with basic tracks and building individual sequences
>like intro, verse or chorus, and then assembling song files from those.
>But people tell me there's no real way to work like that in the popular
>PC based sequencers - it seems to be loop-based stuff like Acid or piano
>roll stuff from beginning of a song to end. I guess you can grab and
>copy whole chunks of a song like a verse and then paste it again after
>your chorus but I'm told it's very inconvenient. True?
>
>Jesse
>

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From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 12:18:34 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:18:25 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:18:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 15197 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2002 16:18:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO REMUS) ([64.81.118.177]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2002 16:18:05 -0000 From: "john sikes johnson" To: "ROLAND S Group" Subject: sgroup sequencers Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:14:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk studio vision blows? by op-old? what? :b even as a cubase fan, sadly... steinberg seems to be letting go of the roland s7 series support in recycle... at least they havent resorted to freeware yet though.... (eat your heart out omz) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 12:27:07 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:26:59 -0400 Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail16.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.216]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:26:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 17735 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2002 16:26:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail16.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2002 16:26:43 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 13:27:43 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup sequencers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >at least they havent resorted to >freeware yet though.... that's a low blow... -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 14:57:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:57:18 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([142.146.233.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7536>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:57:08 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3QIv1I29400 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 14:57:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web12305.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193716-7535>; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:57:36 -0400 Message-ID: <20020426145728.71587.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.128.98.3] by web12305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Apr 2002 07:57:28 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 10:57:28 -0400 From: Dharma Bummer Subject: Re: Sequencers [was: Re: sgroup S-330] To: Sampler Group In-Reply-To: <3CC96A8D.CC73ADE9@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'm rather fond of Massiva, myself. Mostly 'cos it's freeware! BaM ===== This message has been brought to you by the little ASCII art duck who never stopped complaining: o< THIS SUCKS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 28 07:58:19 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-22664>; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:58:11 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natwar.webmailer.de [192.67.198.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22665>; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:57:59 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9517FBD.dip.t-dialin.net [217.81.127.189]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25526 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:57:48 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3SBtkS01471 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:55:46 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 07:55:46 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: SGroup Mailinglist Subject: sgroup Mouse Message-ID: <20020428135546.B1028@martin.unix-net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, does anyone know how to use a PC Mouse with the Roland S-330? Or what about an Atari Mouse? I've seen a diagramm with the pin's of the S-330, but there is a "Strobe" pin, and I don't know how to connect this to an Atari Mouse. But, for me, it would be better to know how to connect a PC Mouse to the S-330. Does anyone know something about that? Martin -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 01:19:17 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7704>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:19:08 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7704>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:19:04 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3T5It365221 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:18:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22664>; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 08:45:52 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-32-156.tnt5.me2.uunet.de [149.225.32.156]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id OAA11965 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 14:45:48 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3CCBEDF9.E83A44B8@cityweb.de> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 08:41:29 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: Sequencers [was: Re: sgroup S-330] References: <20020426155040.C1370@martin.unix-net> <20020426162523.D1370@martin.unix-net> <3CC96A8D.CC73ADE9@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk omz wrote: > > >I'm used to starting with basic tracks and building individual sequences > >like intro, verse or chorus, and then assembling song files from those. > >But people tell me there's no real way to work like that in the popular > >PC based sequencers - it seems to be loop-based stuff like Acid or piano > >roll stuff from beginning of a song to end. I guess you can grab and > >copy whole chunks of a song like a verse and then paste it again after > >your chorus but I'm told it's very inconvenient. True? > > In Studio Vision you can do just that. You create subsequences, in > your case verse, chorus, etc., and can then compile them into a > master sequence. You can do a similar thing with the folders in Logic. You can pack any sequences you like into a folder and move or copy the whole folder. You can also pack folders into folders. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 01:19:26 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-7703>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:19:18 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7703>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:19:14 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3T5JCe65235 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:19:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.105]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-22664>; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:35:46 -0400 Received: from DetlefSchaab@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.12.1e652fa7 (16785) for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:35:39 -0400 (EDT) From: DetlefSchaab@aol.com Message-ID: <12.1e652fa7.29fd8ceb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:35:39 -0400 Subject: sgroup S50 Problem To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12.1e652fa7.29fd8ceb_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows DE sub 10501 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_12.1e652fa7.29fd8ceb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo, gibt es hier jemanden, der deutsch spricht ? Ich habe ein Problem mit den runtergeladenen Sounds f=FCr den S50. Nachdem i= ch=20 die Dateien mit winzip exthrahiert habe und auf eine dd-diskette speichern=20 wollte, kam die Fehlermeldung dass nicht genug Speicherplatz vorhanden ist.=20 Alle Dateien haben 720 kb. Wer hat schon mal ein =E4hnliches Problem gehabt=20= und=20 kann mir weiterhelfen. Danke im vorraus. detlefschaab@aol.com --part1_12.1e652fa7.29fd8ceb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo,
gibt es hier jemanden, der deutsch spricht ?
Ich habe ein Problem mit den runtergeladenen Sounds f=FCr den S50. Nachdem i= ch die Dateien mit winzip exthrahiert habe und auf eine dd-diskette speicher= n wollte, kam die Fehlermeldung dass nicht genug Speicherplatz vorhanden ist= . Alle Dateien haben 720 kb. Wer hat schon mal ein =E4hnliches Problem gehab= t und kann mir weiterhelfen.
Danke im vorraus.
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From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 11:26:01 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7704>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:25:53 -0400 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natwar.webmailer.de [192.67.198.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7704>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:25:39 -0400 Received: from martin.unix-net (pD9EB12D2.dip.t-dialin.net [217.235.18.210]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA20240; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:25:33 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from martin@localhost) by martin.unix-net (8.11.6/8.11.6/SuSE Linux 0.5) id g3TFNYW01414; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:23:34 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:23:34 -0400 From: Martin Wulff To: John Sellens , SGroup Mailinglist Subject: Re: sgroup Mouse Message-ID: <20020429172334.B1405@martin.unix-net> References: <200204291348.g3TDmMR85924@gc0.generalconcepts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200204291348.g3TDmMR85924@gc0.generalconcepts.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I've seen this articles, but I didn't understand it :-) I took a look at the pin's of the S-330 and I've seen the circuits that are shown on the sites told in the mails, but for my opinion, that doesn't fit. can anyone explane me how to do? Martin On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 09:48:22AM -0400, John Sellens wrote: > | does anyone know how to use a PC Mouse with the Roland S-330? > | Or what about an Atari Mouse? I've seen a diagramm with the pin's of > | the S-330, but there is a "Strobe" pin, and I don't know how to > | connect this to an Atari Mouse. > | > | But, for me, it would be better to know how to connect a PC Mouse to > | the S-330. Does anyone know something about that? > > > See > http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/information/ > and the mice.txt and msx_misc.txt files there for the information > that I've filed away over the years. > > Also, Richard Walsh mentioned on the list in March that he was > hoping to start building/providing replacement mice, but I don't > think I've seen a followup from him on that topic: > www.Route66studios.com > Route66Studios@aol.com > > > Cheers > > John -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 12:54:59 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7703>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:54:50 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([142.146.233.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7703>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:54:44 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3TGsW104337 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:54:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7703>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:48:32 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3TDmMR85924; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:48:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:48:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200204291348.g3TDmMR85924@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: Martin@funandmusic.de, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Mouse Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | does anyone know how to use a PC Mouse with the Roland S-330? | Or what about an Atari Mouse? I've seen a diagramm with the pin's of | the S-330, but there is a "Strobe" pin, and I don't know how to | connect this to an Atari Mouse. | | But, for me, it would be better to know how to connect a PC Mouse to | the S-330. Does anyone know something about that? See http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/information/ and the mice.txt and msx_misc.txt files there for the information that I've filed away over the years. Also, Richard Walsh mentioned on the list in March that he was hoping to start building/providing replacement mice, but I don't think I've seen a followup from him on that topic: www.Route66studios.com Route66Studios@aol.com Cheers John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 16:25:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7703>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:25:17 -0400 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7704>; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:25:07 -0400 Received: from Route66Studios@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.172.779b57e (16097) for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netscape.com (mow-m09.webmail.aol.com [64.12.184.137]) by air-id11.mx.aol.com (v84.14) with ESMTP id MAILINID111-0429162445; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:24:45 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:24:45 -0400 From: Route66Studios@aol.com To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: Re: sgroup Mouse Message-ID: <5CEEA932.30F6D36B.42F455C2@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well we are currently working on the replacement mouse, I think we have the problem solved but I am waiting to hear from several supplyers. I want to keep the price low but I also wat a high quality mouse to start with. Richard at Route 66 I've seen this articles, but I didn't understand it :-) I took a look at the pin's of the S-330 and I've seen the circuits that are shown on the sites told in the mails, but for my opinion, that doesn't fit. can anyone explane me how to do? Martin On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 09:48:22AM -0400, John Sellens wrote: > | does anyone know how to use a PC Mouse with the Roland S-330? > | Or what about an Atari Mouse? I've seen a diagramm with the pin's of > | the S-330, but there is a "Strobe" pin, and I don't know how to > | connect this to an Atari Mouse. > | > | But, for me, it would be better to know how to connect a PC Mouse to > | the S-330. Does anyone know something about that? > > > See > http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/information/ > and the mice.txt and msx_misc.txt files there for the information > that I've filed away over the years. > > Also, Richard Walsh mentioned on the list in March that he was > hoping to start building/providing replacement mice, but I don't > think I've seen a followup from him on that topic: > www.Route66studios.com > Route66Studios@aol.com > > > Cheers > > John -- eMail : Martin Wulff ICQ : 75752326 AIM : MuMaWu -------------------------------------------- Public Key: < TITLE="http://mwm-studios.bei.t-online.de/gpg/pubkey.txt>" TARGET="_blank">http://mwm-studios.bei.t-online.de/gpg/pubkey.txt> Fingerprint: 172D C7CC 503A EF0A 1D0F 7395 E1415 227E C6BD 2520 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 10:05:29 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:05:22 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([142.146.233.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:05:16 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3UE57l46471 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:05:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web14505.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.68]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:27:36 -0400 Message-ID: <20020430112729.24037.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.183.111.220] by web14505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 04:27:29 PDT Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:27:29 -0400 From: Philipp Schicker Subject: sgroup Help for latest OS for S-750 and S-760!!! Please help!! To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, I noticed today that Roland US has put down their site (http://www.rolandus.com/SUPPORT/SOFTWARE/PCSAMP.HTM) with the latest system updates for the S-Samplers (how could they do that???).I'm in desperate need for the latest system updates both for my S-750 (should be 2.24 or 2.25, I'm not quite sur ) and for my friend's S-760. If anyone can send my the zip-files or give me an alternative link for a download, I would be very happy. I bought my S-750 a short time ago (I have the 2.23 system disk), bought a zip drive (which needs the lastest OS) two days ago without thinking that Roland US could put down their site. BTW. I didn't find any email add to contact them only some tel. numbers (which isn't usefull for me 'cause I'm living in Europe). If someone has the files please send them to frixion@aon.at I hope anyone can help! Thanx in advance.. Phil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 11:06:08 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3076>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:06:02 -0400 Received: from VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:05:56 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([24.201.182.13]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GVDZ9Q00.ETC for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:05:50 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:05:49 -0400 Subject: sgroup Annoying system disk old format From: "R.Lemay" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, I remember when I got my S-750 and I wanted to update the OS to 2.25; the Dart program was requiring a special type of formatted diskette (old DD; the one with only one hole) and I remember the trouble I had and the waste of time to finally get it to work. We see from time to time people asking the same question concerning the transfer of the OS over the internet. I made a normal boot disk from sys 2.25 (for S750 and S770 samplers) and created a DART file. I am a Mac user and don't have a clue how to do the same for PC users (or if it is relevant for them anyway) but the process is now very easy: get a copy of DART, get my file (S750/770 v2.25) and your fresh normal diskette will be transformed into a fully functional boot disk: no more message requesting the old type of format. If you would like me to upload it just let me know where or how. Let me know. Richard - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 14:26:42 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-3076>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:26:33 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([142.146.233.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:26:22 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3UIQFi58006 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:26:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web14501.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.64]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-3076>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:24:26 -0400 Message-ID: <20020430142422.82576.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.183.112.241] by web14501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:24:22 PDT Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:24:22 -0400 From: Philipp Schicker Subject: sgroup I found the files! But SDISK won't write them?! To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, I posted earlier,because of my search for the system files for the S-750 (2.25) and S-760 (2.24),which I did find in the meantime. But now another problem occurs (I belive that another user had posted the same problem some time ago but got no replay):When I try to write the .out file to a 720Kb formated floppy,the error message "Diskette changed during operation" occurs, sometimes "Diskette is too small/large for file:...".Another thing that cofuses me too,is the fact that in the OS-archive which I first didn't see,the OS file (unzipped) is named "S770_225.SDK" while the official .out file is named "s770225.out" (file size is the same).And I really don't know how to operate a .sdk-file with SDISK (any conversion needed??). Had anyone on this list any success transfering an OS file (under DOS or Windows) to a floppy disk?I've tried everything possible now,but maybe I've only ingnored a little thing. Greetings, Phil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 14:26:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:26:43 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com ([142.146.233.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:26:32 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3UIQQJ58019 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:26:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web14507.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:46:00 -0400 Message-ID: <20020430144556.2909.qmail@web14507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.183.112.241] by web14507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:45:56 PDT Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:45:56 -0400 From: Philipp Schicker Subject: sgroup I found the files! But SDISK won't write them?!(Part2) To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, I wanted to ad to my previous post that SDISK only had problems with the S-750 OS-files,the S-760 file worked fine (but it was written on a normal 1.44MB disk). I've tried to format the floppy disk both under Windows (ME) and under the DOS-shell,so maybe the OS-file is corrupt?I hope that some S-750 and Windows/DOS users had any experiences with this issue.An exact description would be helpful. Greetings, Phil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 17:13:21 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3076>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:13:13 -0400 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3076>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:13:07 -0400 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id OAA00782; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.141) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma000780; Tue, 30 Apr 02 14:23:18 -0700 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g3ULCNP64515 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:12:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web14507.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.224.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:46:47 -0400 Message-ID: <20020430204643.92251.qmail@web14507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [212.183.113.55] by web14507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:46:43 PDT Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:46:43 -0400 From: Philipp Schicker Subject: sgroup S-750 System disk problem solved! To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, My SDISK problems with writing the S-750 system disk (which ruined my day a little) are solved now!Thanks to Floppy Image!Also many thanks to the users who were very kind to send my the OS-files so soon. As a newby I wonder if there are any S-Users from Austria besides Peter Ullrich (just visited the recent archives) and if there's any good European source for sampling CD's in the S-700 format, which aren't too pricey. Any recommendations? Phil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 20:52:01 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3076>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:51:53 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f189.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.189]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3076>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:51:49 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:51:47 -0700 Received: from 205.188.199.168 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 May 2002 00:51:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.199.168] From: "brad allen" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup s770 CD ROM Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 20:51:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2002 00:51:47.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F09AA20:01C1F0AA] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello. I had posted a request for compatible CD ROM drives for the s770 and wish to thank those who so kindly responded. I guess I didn't make it to the Roland site in time since they seem to have taken it down? In any case, I had a few questions if anyone can help. 1. Is there something special I have to do to get the s770 to see the drive? 2. Is there a way to see what drivers are currently in my machine? 3. How would I install new drivers? 4. I think my OS is version 2.04 so should I upgrade? I am dying to start using this machine. Best wishes, Brad _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 21:35:49 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:35:41 -0400 Received: from VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3075>; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:35:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([24.201.182.13]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GVESF305.8MV; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:35:27 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:35:27 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup s770 CD ROM From: "R.Lemay" To: brad allen , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk on 30/04/02 20:51, brad allen at bradallenmusic@hotmail.com wrote: > Hello. I had posted a request for compatible CD ROM drives for the s770 and > wish to thank those who so kindly responded. I guess I didn't make it to the > Roland site in time since they seem to have taken it down? > > In any case, I had a few questions if anyone can help. > > 1. Is there something special I have to do to get the s770 to see the drive? > > 2. Is there a way to see what drivers are currently in my machine? > > 3. How would I install new drivers? > > 4. I think my OS is version 2.04 so should I upgrade? > > I am dying to start using this machine. > > Best wishes, > Brad > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > I have a Panasonic 4X and an Apple 2X and they both work. I also have an old drive with a caddy that worked and another 4 x (did not try that one). My Mac's built-in 24X also worked. The OS has the built-in drivers/features. Nothing special to do; it works or it does not. The latest OS is 2.25 and I can't think of a reason not to upgrade. (You have a Mac or PC?) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.
Current Operating = Systems
S-760 2.24
S-770 / 750 2.25
SP-700 1.12 EPROM
MS-1 1.12
JS-30 1.03 EPROM
DJ-70 1.05 EPROM
DJ-70MkII 1.02 EPROM
SP-202 1.03 CPU
SP-808 1.042


Most of = the drives=20 in this guide come in rackmount versions as well as desktop = units. The=20 last page of this guide has the contact information for the = companies=20 that can package various drives in rack configurations.

CD-ROM Drives
The S-760=D5s System Versions 2.19 - 2.24 = have 7 CD=20 audio drivers that will support most CD-ROMs with the = CD-Player=20 function. See the Supplemental Note for information on how = to set=20 drivers. If a drive is not on this list, it does not mean = it is=20 not compatible. This is a list of tested CD-ROM=20 drives.

Sony
1x=20 Speed
CDU-541
CDU-6111
Roland CD-5
2x = Speed
CDU-55S (Caddieless)
Apple = CD-300E
CDU-561=20
Apple CD-300
4x Speed
CDU-76S=20
CSD-7611M
Apple 600E = +

Panasonic
LK-RC503=20 (CR 503)

MediaVision
2x = Speed
Reno=20 Drive		 NEC
1x=20 = Speed
CDR-84
CDR-74
CDR-38
CDR-37
CDR-36
CDR-35
= CDR-25
2x=20 Speed
CDR-211
CDR-210
3x=20 Speed
CDR-510
4x = Speed
CDR-511
8x=20 Speed
CDR-410

Phillips
8x=20 Speed
PCA80SC 		Chinon
1x=20 Speed
CDX-435
CDX-431
2x = Speed
CDX-525=20
CDX-535

Toshiba
1x=20 Speed
XM-3301
2x=20 Speed
XM-4402A
XM-3401
3x = Speed
TMX-5201B=20
4x Speed
XM-3501
12x=20 Speed
XM-5701TA
32x Speed
XM-620		 Plextor
1x=20 Speed
M-5024D
2x Speed
DM-3028=20
DM-5024
4x Speed
PX-43CS
6x=20 Speed
PX-65CXS
8x = Times
PX-85CS
12x=20 Speed
PX-12CSE

Pioneer
24x = Speed=20
DR-U24X

(S-760 only)
6 Disc Multi CD-ROM = Changers

Double Speed
DRM-602X =
Quad=20 Speed
DRM-604X
Roland Digital Samplers = are not=20 currently compatible with CD-ROM writers or WORM=20 Drives.


Hard Drives
Most SCSI hard drives that are fully compatible with = Macintosh=20 computers will work with the 700 Series digital samplers. = Our=20 samplers format up to 600MB per drive. Rackmount drives = are=20 available from companies listed in Contact Sources on page = 4.

Suggested types of Fixed SCSI Hard=20 Drives:

Quantum   Seagate   Toshiba   JVC =  =20 Maxtor   Conner  =20 Fujitsu


Removable Media = Drives
SyQuest Mechanisms
44MB   88MB   105MB   135MB   = 200MB=20   270MB

IoMega Mechanisms
Bernoulli 150 MB   ZIP 100MB & 250MB*   = Jaz 1=20 Gigabyte
The Iomega ZIp and Jaz drives should = have system=20 2.24 for the S-760 and 2.25 for the S-770/750 samplers. = The SP-700=20 will need the 1.12 EEPROM update to support the newer ZIP=20 drives.
* The JS-30 needs ROM version 1.03 to work = with Zip=20 100 drives. The DJ-70MkII needs Operating System 1.02 to = work with=20 Iomega Jaz drives. The SP-808 can use both Zip 100 & = 250=20 drives, but can only use the 100Mb disks. We have also = been able=20 to use the Zip 250 with the S-550 and W-30 samplers which = can=20 format up to 80MB of each = cartridge.

Other Mechanisms
Nomai
540MB MCD

Does not format = discs,=20 only initializes preformatted=20 discs


= = =
Optical Drives
* Use 512 Sector discs for all Optical=20 Media.
128MB Mechanisms*
Ricoh
RS-3100E
Chinon Relax=20 Sierra
RS-5031E		Sony
RMO-S350
RMO-S360
301F

230MB Mechanisms*
Fujitsu
M2512		 Olympus
MOS321

256MB Mechanisms* 230/640MB Mechanisms*
must = use=20 540MB or 230MB disks
Most
Ocean Micro		 Fujitsu
APS

600MB Mechanisms*
Sony
RM-S-550
FWB/Hammerdisk
MassMicro/Datapak
Thi= rdWave/Optidisk
PLI/Optical=20 5.25
Sharp JY-750
Maxoptix Tahiti-2

Ricoh
RS-9200

Panasonic
Gemini=20 PCD
4xCD-ROM and MO drive
Phase Change / CD = Subsystem
1.3GB Mechanisms*
Sony
SMO-F521
Pinnacle Micro Sierra=20 1.3
Maxoptix Tahiti 3 		Roland Samplers can format
up to 600MB per side of=20 each
1.3BG optical = disc.


SCSI DAT = Drives
Wang DATA DAT 1300
Archive Python Data DAT = 4360XT		 APS DAT*
Dynatek*		 Hewlett Packard
Teac Data Cassette = MT-2St/F50
* Does not work with = S-770 / S-750=20 Samplers. The S-770/750 must use Hacker Mode to use Data=20 DATs.


Memory
We recommend using the highest quality = SIMM's=20 possible. See the phone numbers under contact sources for=20 companies recommended by Roland U.S. for compatibile=20 SIMMs.

S-770, DJ-70 &=20 JS-30
30pin 1x8Mbyte, 100ns or=20 faster		 S-750 & = SP-700
30pin 4x8Mbyte, 100ns or faster		 S-760
8Mbyte- 72pin=20 type 2-megaword x 32 bit D-RAM modules. 16 4-megabit = D-RAMS=20 built-in. Access time 80 nsec
16Mbyte- 72pin = type=20 4-megaword x 32 bit D-RAM modules. 16 4-megabit D-RAMS = built-in.=20 Access time 80 nsec
MS-1 Memory Cards
The MS-1 = Digital=20 Sampler uses the Sandisk type of ATA Type II Flash RAM = PCMCIA=20 Cards. These PC cards can be ordered through distributors = at the=20 end of this guide.
SP-202 SmartMedia = Cards
The=20 SP-202 is compatible with 2 and 4 Meg, 5 volt SmartMedia = cards.=20 These SmartMedia cards can be ordered through distributors = at the=20 end of this guide or from Roland directly (model # SM-4).=20


RGB Monitors
These Monitors require special adapter = cables. See=20 the Contact Sources list for suppliers.
Atari SC-1224
Atari SC-1435
Mitsubishi=20 Diamondscan
Taxan 610/420		 NEC 3D
Magnavox 8762
Commodore 1080 & = 1084
Sony=20 KV1311		 Sony PVM
Zenith ZVM133
Darius=20 TSM-1431


S-Video
The Roland S-760 can be used with TV monitors, A/V = Computers=20 and Computer Video capture boards (Mac & IBM = compatible) to=20 display its output. The S-760 can supply either S-Video or = Color=20 Composite signals. See the Contact Sources list for = companies that=20 sell these monitors and boards. The S-770/750 Digital = Samplers=20 output their composite signals in black & white=20 only./TD>


CD-ROM Writers and = Software
The 700 Series Digital Samplers can not = directly=20 address CD-ROM writers, however you can copy a 700 Series = Hard=20 drive to a CD-ROM writer by using a computer with CD-ROM=20 premastering software. The list below contains programs = that we=20 know to work by making a bit by bit or SCSI device copy of = a hard=20 drive to a CD-ROM. The CD-ROM writer compatibility will = depend if=20 these drives are supported by the software listed=20 below.

Toast=20 (Adaptec)


Contact = Sources
Rackmount SCSI Drives: Phone
SoundLogic (760) 789-6558
Glyph Technologies (800) 335-0345
Rorke Data

 (800) 328-8147

Desktop SCSI Drives:
APS (800) 925-4922
MacWarehouse (800) 645-9173

Memory
EBI Inc + (626) 961-3437
Advantage Memory * (800) 266-0488
Prima International** (800) 266-0488
SoundLogic + (760) 789-6558
Bell Micro** (408) 451-1680
Essex** (408) 229-8035
HCo + (800) 726-2477
Epoch+ (800) 736-3762
* (SIMMs & PCMCIA)
+ = (SIMMs=20 Only)
** (PCMCIA Only)

Monitors (RGB)
Direction Sound & Vision (310) 276-2063
SoundLogic

 (760) 789-6558

Monitors (S-Video)
AVVID

 (800) 924-2932

Computer Video Capture Cards
(S-Video and=20 Composite)
MacWarehouse (Mac) (800) 645-9173
Tiger Software (IBM)

 (800) 888-4437

Monitor Cables
Redmond Cable (425) 882-2009 WA
(423) 478-5760 TN

Video, Mouse & SCSI Switchers
Redmond Cable (425) 882-2009 WA
(615) 478-5760 TN

CD-ROM Writer Programs
Adaptec

 (408) 934-7283

3rd Party CD-ROM Distributors
Spectrasonics (800) 764-9379
Q Up Arts (800) 454-4563
East-West Soundwarehous (800) 833-8339
Ilio Entertainment (800) 747-4546
InVision (650) 812-7380
NorthStar (503) 760-7777
SampleHeads (212)=20 = 262-3488