From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 1 22:37:34 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-12741>; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:37:29 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-12741>; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:37:14 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.83.247]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020202033712.BCUS3409.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 03:37:12 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c1ab9a$cf868f20$f753580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Hey Everyone Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 22:36:32 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1AB70.E5C58AE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1AB70.E5C58AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all, Just thought I'd let this list on the fact that Ilio announced new = Roland sample CDs. I contacted them for info on their CDs and they = informed me that at the time, many CDs were not available in Roland = format. They sent me this email this afternoon: Hello Harold, Good News! The Roland version of Interactive Drum Kits and Snares is=20 available. We accept Money Orders/Cashiers checks via mail or COD. If = you=20 are interested in purchasing let us know. Best Regards, Dave Shields ILIO Entertainments http://www.ilio.com Toll free: 800-747-4546 tel: 818-707-7222 fax: 818-707-8552 Just keeping you guys updated. Take care, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1AB70.E5C58AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey all,
 
Just thought I'd let this list on the = fact that=20 Ilio announced new Roland sample CDs. I contacted them for info on their = CDs and=20 they informed me that at the time, many CDs were not available in Roland = format.=20 They sent me this email this afternoon:
 
Hello Harold,

Good News! The = Roland version=20 of Interactive Drum Kits and Snares is
available. We accept Money=20 Orders/Cashiers checks via mail or COD. If you
are interested in = purchasing=20 let us know.

Best Regards,

Dave Shields
ILIO=20 Entertainments
http://www.ilio.com

Toll free:=20 800-747-4546
tel: 818-707-7222
fax: 818-707-8552
 
Just keeping you guys updated. = Take=20 care,
Harold


------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1AB70.E5C58AE0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Feb 2 13:18:04 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-28306>; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 13:17:56 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-28306>; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 13:17:50 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g12IHm960118 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 13:17:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-28306>; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 10:28:56 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-118-54.tnt9.me2.uunet.de [149.225.118.54]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id QAA16866 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 16:28:52 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C5AA865.DA4E9449@cityweb.de> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 09:38:30 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard Sven Patterson wrote: > > what is ironic to me. > is that we discussing the tx/dx on the roland sampling group. > when the reason I love roland stuff is becuse it is to me everything > the dx 7 wasn't... > but life goes on. :-) I've been using a Yamaha synth along with a Roland sampler for quite a long time. The first combo was DX7 and S-330, then the DX7 was replaced by a TG77, then the S-330 was replaced by a S-760. Now I use a VL70-m instead of the TG77. My 2 cents regarding the original question: I think it's impossible to model the real-time control possibilities of a FM synth with a sampler. The output level of a modulator operator affects the sound very drastically, and very different than a filter does. On a FM synth, even on the very early ones, these parameters can be controlled via MIDI velocity or a MIDI controller. That's one of the reasons why the e-pianos of FM synths are so realistic: when played harder they really sound like a harder played e-piano. So the sampled counterpart of a FM sound will often be very static. On the other hand, our Roland samplers have quite good filters. The older FM synths don't have filters at all and the SY77 generation synth's filters surely aren't the best in the world. I once ran my DX7 through an analog filter: complete new instrument! Regarding multitimbrality: the TX802 has a similar synth engine as the TX7, and is multitimbral. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 00:02:09 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:02:04 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:01:54 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0jd.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.109] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16XbGF-0003rt-00; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 00:01:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5E15B8.DB68EA8@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:01:44 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ingo Debus , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> <3C5AA865.DA4E9449@cityweb.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ingo Debus wrote: > My 2 cents regarding the original question: I think it's impossible to > model the real-time control possibilities of a FM synth with a sampler. > ... > That's one of the reasons why the > e-pianos of FM synths are so realistic: when played harder they really > sound like a harder played e-piano. So the sampled counterpart of a FM > sound will often be very static. On the other hand, our Roland samplers > have quite good filters. Very good point. I think you just convinced me to try to find a good used DX synth. I have a decent sample of Piano Bells I made on my S-550; it's got a velocity switching from a mild version of the sound to a hard-driven version of the sound. I've got the same thing for a Tines Rhodes sound, too. But there's nothing in between the mild sound and the sharp attack of the high velocity sound. So it's nowhere near as expressive or natural as an actual DX7 playing the same sound. > Regarding multitimbrality: the TX802 has a similar synth engine as the > TX7, and is multitimbral. Yep, that's what I used to have. I never got into it as much as I wished I had. I regret selling it; they go pretty expensive on ebay - they seem to go for several hundred dollars while TX7's go for under a hundred. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 00:13:56 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:13:50 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:13:39 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C991BD80 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from maridia.blarg.net (vq123.atm01.sea.blarg.net [206.124.140.123] (may be forged)) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA22105 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:13:31 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020203211138.00bbd590@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:13:36 -0500 To: Sampler Group From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? In-Reply-To: <3C5E15B8.DB68EA8@mindspring.com> References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> <3C5AA865.DA4E9449@cityweb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 09:01 PM 2/3/2002, Jesse Segovia wrote: > > Regarding multitimbrality: the TX802 has a similar synth engine as the > > TX7, and is multitimbral. > >Yep, that's what I used to have. I never got into it as much as I >wished I had. I regret selling it; they go pretty expensive on ebay - >they seem to go for several hundred dollars while TX7's go for under a >hundred. Yeah, if you're going to spend a couple of hundred bucks you might as well go all the way and get an FS1R, that way you get the polyphony, you get the multitimbrality, AND you get the filters and effects. Of course, you also get a synth arcane enough that the menus should be written in runes =). - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 00:15:55 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:15:46 -0500 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:15:40 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0jd.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.109] helo=mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16XbTZ-00013H-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 00:15:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5E18F8.6C8ADC6C@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:15:36 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Update on Nicebeats References: <20020203.145151.-894127.9.wswezey@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, the Nicebeats TX7 sample CD won't be available so I guess I won't be ordering one of their sample CDs anytime soon. If anyone does get one on sale, please let the list know what you think. Jesse William A Swezey II wrote: > > Jesse, > > Sorry for the delay in getting back to you - our Internet connection > was down for 3 -4 days. No EMAIL or anything. :-( There are no sound > samples on the German web site but there will be on our site. > Unfortunately, the TX-7 project was scrapped so it will have to come off > the price list. All other titles are available in Akai except Vols. 34 > and 35 (Matrix and Wavestation) which are only in WAV and AUDIO format > at this time. We look forward to your order and thank you for your > business! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 00:29:40 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:29:34 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:29:27 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0jd.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.109] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Xbgw-0006sS-00; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 00:29:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5E1C35.5AD0A798@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:29:25 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Lincoln CC: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> <3C5AA865.DA4E9449@cityweb.de> <5.1.0.14.2.20020203211138.00bbd590@mail.blarg.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ben Lincoln wrote: > Yeah, if you're going to spend a couple of hundred bucks you might > as well go all the way and get an FS1R, that way you get the polyphony, > you get the multitimbrality, AND you get the filters and effects. Of course, > you also get a synth arcane enough that the menus should be written in > runes =). There's one on ebay right now for about $406.00 but it just went up so there's some interest in it at that price. How much do they go for new? And can you load all those tens of thousands of free DX sounds into them? Anyway, too rich for my blood. I think I'm still in TX7 range, if anything. The new economy's still got me down so I can "afford" to take lots and lots of time before deciding. A TX7 means if I ever want more than one DX sound on a track I'll have to sync my sequencer with my recorder and waste some tracks on synths rather than syncing the synths live when I do a master. Still, at this point I don't even have a sequencer I can sync with my recorder yet; I'm still using Dr T's KCS on my Atari ST as a sequencer and it only does SMPTE, which my AW4416 doesn't support. Maybe before I get a DX synth I should find a reasonably priced Windows sequencer that will support MTC or MIDI clock. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 00:59:17 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:59:08 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:58:58 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7710CBE3A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from maridia.blarg.net (vq123.atm01.sea.blarg.net [206.124.140.123] (may be forged)) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA31819 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:58:53 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020203215624.00bb8450@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 00:58:58 -0500 To: Sampler Group From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? In-Reply-To: <3C5E1C35.5AD0A798@mindspring.com> References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> <3C5AA865.DA4E9449@cityweb.de> <5.1.0.14.2.20020203211138.00bbd590@mail.blarg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 09:29 PM 2/3/2002, Jesse Segovia wrote: >There's one on ebay right now for about $406.00 but it just went up so >there's some interest in it at that price. How much do they go for >new? I think I paid $450 for mine new when they were closing them out. It would be difficult to find one new now though. > And can you load all those tens of thousands of free DX sounds >into them? Yup, they can load the entire DX7/TX7 library. In fact, they actually have a bunch of the more popular sounds as presets. >Still, at this point I don't even have a sequencer I can sync with my >recorder yet; I'm still using Dr T's KCS on my Atari ST as a sequencer >and it only does SMPTE, which my AW4416 doesn't support. Maybe before I >get a DX synth I should find a reasonably priced Windows sequencer that >will support MTC or MIDI clock. I just went Sonar XL myself, Guitar Center was having a special and I needed something to replace my aging Digital Orchestrator Pro, especially since that won't run on XP. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 05:43:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 05:43:07 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 05:43:01 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.66]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020204104252.RGAQ941.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:42:52 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c1ad68$9805b740$4252580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup S700 Assesment. Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 05:42:06 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C1AD3E.AE2C4900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C1AD3E.AE2C4900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Right Now, A Roland S760 w/32MB and OP1 with say three sample CDs would go for $600 = - $800 on Ebay or in a classified ad. That same $800 could get you a = "brand-new" PIII with Gigasampler and a very good sound card.=20 A friend of mine emailed me this today. I just thought I should share = that. Anyway, has anyone heard those SOUNDSCAN Big Fish Audio CDs that go for = $29 - $49. They are said to have lots of samples and multisamples from = more expensive Sample Libraries and have been skimmed down somewhat. = These CDs are advertised in Keyboard Magazine and SOS magazine every = month. There are something like 30 volumes of this stuff. Many of them = are available in Akai S1000 format.=20 Anyone have these? They look real interesting. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C1AD3E.AE2C4900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Right Now,
 
A Roland S760 w/32MB and OP1 with say = three sample=20 CDs would go for $600 - $800 on Ebay or in a classified ad. That same = $800 could=20 get you a "brand-new" PIII with Gigasampler and a very good sound card.=20
 
A friend of mine emailed me this today. = I just=20 thought I should share that.
 
Anyway, has anyone heard those = SOUNDSCAN Big Fish=20 Audio CDs that go for $29 - $49. They are said to have lots of samples = and=20 multisamples from more expensive Sample Libraries and have been skimmed = down=20 somewhat. These CDs are advertised in Keyboard Magazine and SOS magazine = every=20 month. There are something like 30 volumes of this stuff. Many of them = are=20 available in Akai S1000 format.
 
Anyone have these? They look real=20 interesting.
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C1AD3E.AE2C4900-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 07:46:31 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:46:22 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:46:19 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.81.42]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020204124611.SIBL13869.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:46:11 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c1ad79$d1c0b500$2a51580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup ProSamples Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:45:24 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1AD4F.E80751E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1AD4F.E80751E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey List, Anyone heard of these? These discs also look really good. Musician's = Friend has these listed for $30 each. They come in a whole bunch of = volumes. Examples are: 1) Hip-Hop and R&B 8) World Vocals 11) Classical Orchestra 16) Guitar and Bills There are 30 volumes. Most of the volumes have globs and globs of = multisamples (according to the ad anyway). Anyone have experience with = these discs. I read an ad in Keyboard magazine about these. Here's the web site: www.soundsonline.com Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1AD4F.E80751E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey List,
 
Anyone heard of these? These discs also = look really=20 good. Musician's Friend has these listed for $30 each. They come in a = whole=20 bunch of volumes. Examples are:
 
1) Hip-Hop and R&B
8) World Vocals
11) Classical Orchestra
16) Guitar and Bills
 
 
There are 30 volumes. Most of the = volumes have=20 globs and globs of multisamples (according to the ad anyway). Anyone = have=20 experience with these discs. I read an ad in Keyboard magazine about=20 these.
 
Here's the web site:
www.soundsonline.com
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1AD4F.E80751E0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 08:58:54 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:58:50 -0500 Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:58:44 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0h6.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.38] helo=mindspring.com) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Xjdm-0001l4-00; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 08:58:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5E938D.D45C633E@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:58:37 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ben Lincoln , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> <3C5AA865.DA4E9449@cityweb.de> <5.1.0.14.2.20020203211138.00bbd590@mail.blarg.net> <5.1.0.14.2.20020203215624.00bb8450@mail.blarg.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ben Lincoln wrote: > I just went Sonar XL myself, Guitar Center was having a special and I needed > something to replace my aging Digital Orchestrator Pro, especially since that > won't run on XP. May I ask what you paid? My local Guitar Center has something called Studio by Midisoft on sale for $19.99. The salesman tells me it'll do everything any other MIDI sequencer will do, including syncing, recording files I can play on any other sequencer, etc. I specifically told him I don't want any audio processing which it seems EVERY sequencer out there does. I have my digital workstation for that. Any opinions on Studio? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 11:14:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:14:14 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:14:09 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A795BD33 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:14:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA26432 for >; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:13:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C5EB345.000001.30056@statler> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:13:57 -0500 From: blincoln To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse Segovia wrote: > May I ask what you paid? Yes of course. It was $399, which was a bit of a hit (but hey, that's what credit cards are for, right =)?), but much less than the regular price of $479 for the base version or like $599 for the XL version (which is what I got). > My local Guitar Center has something called Studio by Midisoft on > sale > for $19.99. The salesman tells me it'll do everything any other > MIDI > sequencer will do, including syncing, recording files I can play on > any > other sequencer, etc. I specifically told him I don't want any > audio > processing which it seems EVERY sequencer out there does. I have my > digital workstation for that. Any opinions on Studio? Good question. I haven't had a chance to use that app personally, but after my last experience with value-priced software I tend to stay away from it, just because it tends to not be supported very well. What I'd do is go in in-person and ask to use it, verify it does everything you need, and then decide whether or not to purchase it. If it ends up with support issues you'll only be out $20 down the road. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 15:33:38 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:33:31 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:33:23 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id MAA25309; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma025302; Mon, 4 Feb 02 12:42:08 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g14KWJS52638 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:32:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from rhenium (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:15:31 -0500 Received: from host213-122-144-80.dial.btopenworld.com ([213.122.144.80]) by rhenium with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16Xju4-0000e5-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 14:15:29 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:15:57 -0500 Subject: sgroup S770 and Syquest SYJET SCSI compatibility. From: Andrew L To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi I have a S770, I also have a Syquest Syjet 1.5 Gb removable hard drive. I have connected this drive to my S770 using SCSI, and the S770 recognises it. However, when I try to format the disk using the disk tools option, it comes up with the phrase "Check condition" with a 0 next to it. It stays like this for ever and a day. Otherwise the S770 seems to communicate with the drive okay. Any clues as to what the problem is here? Is the Syjet incompatible with the S770? If so can anyone recommend a modern removable hard drive for my S770. Regards Andrew Lawrence - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 15:33:40 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:33:29 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:33:23 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id MAA25311; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma025303; Mon, 4 Feb 02 12:42:24 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g14KWaH52660 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:32:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:04:14 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-46-3.tnt6.me2.uunet.de [149.225.46.3]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id RAA29528 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:04:06 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C5EAE4F.C071EA5F@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 10:52:48 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> <3C5AA865.DA4E9449@cityweb.de> <5.1.0.14.2.20020203211138.00bbd590@mail.blarg.net> <3C5E1C35.5AD0A798@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse Segovia wrote: > Still, at this point I don't even have a sequencer I can sync with my > recorder yet; I'm still using Dr T's KCS on my Atari ST as a sequencer > and it only does SMPTE, which my AW4416 doesn't support. Now that you mention the Atari, AFAIR there was an Atari software that could translate DX7 voice parameter sets into samples. That means you didn't need a FM synth to get FM synth samples. Maybe I'm mixing things up here, but I think this software was X-Alyzer. > Maybe before I > get a DX synth I should find a reasonably priced Windows sequencer that > will support MTC or MIDI clock. Are there any sequencer programs that don't? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 15:35:47 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:35:39 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193719-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:35:32 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id MAA25331; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma025323; Mon, 4 Feb 02 12:44:12 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g14KYOU52749 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:34:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:49:47 -0500 Received: from cpe-66-87-151-54.il.sprintbbd.net ([66.87.151.54] helo=ord353676) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Xp7V-0004E3-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 11:49:41 -0800 From: "Darryl S. Duncan" To: Subject: sgroup Help Re: Roland S770 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:34:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a basic questions about the S770. I simply need to know if the Roland S770 can load .WAV or AIFF files from a connected SCSI disk/drive, or can it ONLY use it's sample recorded directly into the machine and it's own proprietary format? I need to be able to LOAD WAV or AIFF files from disk! Possible? I sort of need to know this ASAP so if you are reading this and can help please respond right away. THANKS! Darryl Email: dduncan@gamebeatinc.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 15:35:48 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:35:38 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-24544>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:35:32 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id MAA25329; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma025322; Mon, 4 Feb 02 12:44:05 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g14KYGJ52742 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:34:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from pd3mo3so.prod.shaw.ca (h24-71-223-13.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.13]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:46:22 -0500 Received: from pd5mr4so.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr4so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.168]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with ESMTP id <0GR00096KXK58I@l-daemon> for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 12:45:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml4so (pn2ml4so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.148]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GR0007CGXK585@l-daemon> for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 12:45:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from cs965848b (h24-83-120-87.vf.shawcable.net [24.83.120.87]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.0 Patch 2 (built Dec 14 2000)) with SMTP id <0GR000IJIXK4V9@l-daemon> for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 12:45:41 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:49:26 -0500 From: Sean Charles Subject: Re: sgroup S700 Assesment. To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-id: <002c01c1adb5$0fcc0800$6501a8c0@cs965848b> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_V208rvhGZdDBMJOzKUQ8WQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_V208rvhGZdDBMJOzKUQ8WQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Harold...I have the R&B soundscan ones and they ROCK...for the money...it's well produced, good quality. So far every product I have bought from BigFish Audio has been really good stuff. Another company to check out, especially their new releases is Q Up Arts...the website is www.quparts.com SC ----- Original Message ----- From: Harold Everton, Jr. To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:42 AM Subject: sgroup S700 Assesment. Right Now, A Roland S760 w/32MB and OP1 with say three sample CDs would go for $600 - $800 on Ebay or in a classified ad. That same $800 could get you a "brand-new" PIII with Gigasampler and a very good sound card. A friend of mine emailed me this today. I just thought I should share that. Anyway, has anyone heard those SOUNDSCAN Big Fish Audio CDs that go for $29 - $49. They are said to have lots of samples and multisamples from more expensive Sample Libraries and have been skimmed down somewhat. These CDs are advertised in Keyboard Magazine and SOS magazine every month. There are something like 30 volumes of this stuff. Many of them are available in Akai S1000 format. Anyone have these? They look real interesting. Later, Harold --Boundary_(ID_V208rvhGZdDBMJOzKUQ8WQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Harold...I have the R&B soundscan ones and they ROCK...for the money...it's well produced, good quality. So far every product I have bought from BigFish Audio has been really good stuff. Another company to check out, especially their new releases is Q Up Arts...the website is www.quparts.com
 
SC
 
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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 2:42 AM
Subject: sgroup S700 Assesment.

Right Now,
 
A Roland S760 w/32MB and OP1 with say three sample CDs would go for $600 - $800 on Ebay or in a classified ad. That same $800 could get you a "brand-new" PIII with Gigasampler and a very good sound card.
 
A friend of mine emailed me this today. I just thought I should share that.
 
Anyway, has anyone heard those SOUNDSCAN Big Fish Audio CDs that go for $29 - $49. They are said to have lots of samples and multisamples from more expensive Sample Libraries and have been skimmed down somewhat. These CDs are advertised in Keyboard Magazine and SOS magazine every month. There are something like 30 volumes of this stuff. Many of them are available in Akai S1000 format.
 
Anyone have these? They look real interesting.
 
Later,
Harold
 
--Boundary_(ID_V208rvhGZdDBMJOzKUQ8WQ)-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 15:44:56 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:44:51 -0500 Received: from mail.infochan.com ([208.52.68.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:44:36 -0500 Received: from [208.52.71.102] by mail.infochan.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:41:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 15:47:16 -0500 To: "Darryl S. Duncan" , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Help Re: Roland S770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 2:34 pm -0500 4/2/2002, Darryl S. Duncan wrote: >Hello, > >I have a basic questions about the S770. > >I simply need to know if the Roland S770 can load .WAV or AIFF files from a >connected SCSI disk/drive, or can it ONLY use it's sample recorded directly >into the machine and it's own proprietary format? no it cannot read .wave or aiff files directly.... rsp >I need to be able to LOAD WAV or AIFF files from disk! Possible? > >I sort of need to know this ASAP so if you are reading this and can help >please respond right away. > >THANKS! >Darryl >Email: dduncan@gamebeatinc.com > > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 4 17:48:39 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:48:29 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24543>; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:48:19 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.185]) by tweakhead.com ; Mon, 04 Feb 2002 17:48:08 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup S700 Assesment. Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:48:55 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <101286288902@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >A Roland S760 w/32MB and OP1 with say three sample CDs would go for $600 - >$800 on Ebay or in a classified ad. That same $800 could get you a >"brand-new" PIII with Gigasampler and a very good sound card. So I could have a rock-solid road-worthy unit with lovely filters or I could have a PC running Windows... I'll take the S-760...especially as I use my Roland for more synthy stuff and I make my own samples from scratch... cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 5 09:01:48 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-18098>; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:01:41 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-18098>; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:01:38 -0500 Received: from user-2ive14e.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.4.142] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Y6A7-0007cP-00; Tue, 05 Feb 2002 09:01:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5FE5C0.29DF9F1F@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:01:36 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ingo Debus , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> <3C5AA865.DA4E9449@cityweb.de> <5.1.0.14.2.20020203211138.00bbd590@mail.blarg.net> <3C5E1C35.5AD0A798@mindspring.com> <3C5EAE4F.C071EA5F@cityweb.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ingo Debus wrote: > > Maybe before I > > get a DX synth I should find a reasonably priced Windows sequencer that > > will support MTC or MIDI clock. > > Are there any sequencer programs that don't? Well, yeah, Dr T's KCS on the Atari. I used to be in a band with a guy who worked for Dr T's, so I've got a copy of almost every product they made around '88-89, including something called the Phantom. It's a small hardware piece that plugs into the back of the Atari and then into the in and out of a track on your recorder, and software that runs under the KCS sequencer. It'll sync KCS up to any hardware that supports SMPTE; unfortunately that doesn't include my AW4416. I don't think the Phantom supports MTC or MIDI Clock, and even if it did, it might not work with the AW. I'm not sure if the way modern recorders do MTC is similar to the way you used to stripe tape with SMPTE. Believe it or not, there was a time when I was up on virtually everything that had to do with MIDI, smaller Portastudio-type recorders, and at least the synthesizers and samplers I owned. I read all the better music technology magazines, got my hands on all the latest equipment, was on a first name basis with folks at ALL the big Boston music stores ... Man, those days are LONG gone. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 5 09:55:31 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-18100>; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:55:23 -0500 Received: from intmailvw02.lear.com ([63.68.228.222]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-18100>; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:55:20 -0500 Received: from 10.0.4.95 by intmailvw02.lear.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 05 Feb 2002 09:55:10 -0500 Received: by inet-imc-01.headquarters.lear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:55:10 -0500 Message-ID: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DAF1D05@oakville.oakville.lear.com> From: "Gallagher, Jon" To: Sampler Group Subject: RE: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:55:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yes there was a time when the owner of my local music shop would visibly salivate at my presence.. I think that in the late '80's I single-handedly managed to buoy the E-mu corporation thru SEVERAL recessions...(ha ha ha) I was never more than 20 feet from a copy of Keyboard Magazine.. I even managed to write a small program on my Atari 2600 that would display the output waves from the different carrier/operator frequency combinations for my Yamaha DX9!!!!! Thanks for making me feel old, Jesse!! :^) > Believe it or not, there was a time when I was up on virtually > everything that had to do with MIDI, smaller Portastudio-type recorders, > and at least the synthesizers and samplers I owned. I read all the > better music technology magazines, got my hands on all the latest > equipment, was on a first name basis with folks at ALL the big Boston > music stores ... > > Man, those days are LONG gone. > > Jesse > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 5 13:26:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-18100>; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:26:52 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-18100>; Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:26:42 -0500 Received: from user-2ive19g.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.48] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16YAIZ-0003s4-00; Tue, 05 Feb 2002 13:26:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3C6023DD.3A23D5AE@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 13:26:37 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gallagher, Jon" , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DAF1D05@oakville.oakville.lear.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Gallagher, Jon" wrote: > > Yes there was a time when the owner of my local music shop would visibly > salivate at my presence.. I think that in the late '80's I single-handedly > managed to buoy the E-mu corporation thru SEVERAL recessions...(ha ha ha) Yep, I'd be very disappointed to find out the good folks at Roland don't still know me by name. 8-) The building where my local Wurlitzer's Music Store was located was expanding while I was busy gearing up - the salespeople used to say I was single-handedly paying for the new floors. > I even > managed to write a small program on my Atari 2600 that would display the > output waves from the different carrier/operator frequency combinations for > my Yamaha DX9!!!!! Well, I never wrote my own programs for my equipment. I never really connected my professional computer life with my avocation; unfortunately for me, I got out of music just as the usenet groups and internet email lists (like our very own Roland Sampler Group) were coming online. Man, I would've gotten a huge kick out of swapping samples and synth patches online. At that time (early 90s), I thought I was out of music for good. I'm just thankful now I didn't sell more equipment than I actually did. > Thanks for making me feel old, Jesse!! :^) Don't mention it. Depending on what else is going on in the world, I'm either a very young or a very old forty years old myself. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 08:36:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:36:28 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:36:23 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.96.64]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020208133617.XFRC8963.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:36:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c1b0a5$7428ae00$4060580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup What I'll Do. Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:35:19 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1B07B.8A5E8200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1B07B.8A5E8200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey List, I've decided to save up and get the Ross Garfield Drum Doctor II Akai = S1000 format CD from Big Fish Audio. I've heard demos of his CD. The = drums kits (multi-sampled) sound so good and realistic. These kits used = properly could really fool someone into thinking that real drums were = being recorded. Although I am a drummer (in addition to playing keys and = trumpet), I prefer to play a sampled kit in my recordings (hate micing, = and only have 8 tracks, I also have terrible acoustics in my room). The INTERACTIVE DRUMS & SNARES from Ilio is nice too, but you only get 6 = kits. $199 is TOO expensive for 6 kits. The ROSS GARFIELD DRUM DOCTOR = VOL. 2 CD looks like a great buy. The Roland samples off the DRUMS & = CYMBALS and RHYTHM SECTION VOL 1 are just TOO 1980s (although I loved = the 80s) and sound TOO synthetic. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1B07B.8A5E8200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey List,
 
I've decided to save up and get the = Ross Garfield=20 Drum Doctor II Akai S1000 format CD from Big Fish Audio. I've heard = demos of his=20 CD. The drums kits (multi-sampled) sound so good and realistic. These = kits used=20 properly could really fool someone into thinking that real drums were = being=20 recorded. Although I am a drummer (in addition to playing keys and = trumpet), I=20 prefer to play a sampled kit in my recordings (hate micing, and only = have 8=20 tracks, I also have terrible acoustics in my room).
 
The INTERACTIVE DRUMS & SNARES from = Ilio is=20 nice too, but you only get 6 kits. $199 is TOO expensive for 6 kits. The = ROSS=20 GARFIELD DRUM DOCTOR VOL. 2 CD looks like a great buy. The Roland = samples off=20 the DRUMS & CYMBALS and RHYTHM SECTION VOL 1 are just TOO 1980s = (although I=20 loved the 80s) and sound TOO synthetic.
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1B07B.8A5E8200-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 08:52:11 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:52:03 -0500 Received: from hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:51:53 -0500 Received: from smui02.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.25]) by hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ZBRK-0004Ox-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 08 Feb 2002 08:51:46 -0500 Received: by smui02.slb.mindspring.net id IAA0000001940; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:51:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 08:51:45 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup What I'll Do. Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.232 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > I've decided to save up and get the Ross Garfield > Drum Doctor II Akai S1000 format CD from Big Fish Audio. How much is this? Is this one of the Big Fish CDs you mentioned that go for about $30? Let us know what you think of it. If it turns out as good as you think and it's reasonably priced, it might be a good investment. I know what you mean about the Roland CD and the 80s. Everything is a HUGE drum, like the big drum kits everybody played in those days. There are some tighter, crisper drums there but not too many. There's a good selection of snares but not so many good toms, unless you want to sound like old Van Halen or Twisted Sister. But even in my SPD-20, there are lots of great-sounding snares and kicks, good for today's tighter sound, but not as many good toms. Plus the cymbals in the SPD-20 are the typical Roland cymbals. They're OK and I guess they'll sound more natural in a busy track but by themselves they scream "I'm sampled!!!!" The Roland Drums & Cymbals CD has THE very best sampled crash cymbal I've ever heard. Even when I use the SPD-20 on my tracks I'm going to use that crash from the CD. I'll find out the exact sample or partial name if anyone's interested. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 09:01:27 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:01:19 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.50]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:01:09 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.83.235]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020208140104.XNFC3965.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:01:04 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c1b0a8$eaeed700$eb53580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup What I'll Do. Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 09:00:06 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Everyone, No, this particular CD ROM lists for $199. I'm going to see if i can find it elsewhere for cheaper. As I told you all before, all of those samples on the RHYTHMSECTION VOL. 1 and the DRUMS & CYMBALS CD were used on almost every Roland instrument between 1991 and 1999. The XV line still uses them, but is the first to my knowledge (aside from the V-Drums) that uses new samples. I'm tired of these samples as I already have most of them on my XP60. I think I'll hang on to the RHYTHM SECTION INSTRUMENTS, PREVIEW DISC and ROLAND SAMPLING SOWCASE disc just incase I want to sell my S760 somewhere down the line. Those discs would probably increase the resale value. Until then, I need better drum samples. This is what I bought the S760 for in the first place. later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: sgroup What I'll Do. > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > I've decided to save up and get the Ross Garfield > > Drum Doctor II Akai S1000 format CD from Big Fish Audio. > > How much is this? Is this one of the Big Fish CDs you mentioned that go for about $30? Let us know what you think of it. If it turns out as good as you think and it's reasonably priced, it might be a good investment. > > I know what you mean about the Roland CD and the 80s. Everything is a HUGE drum, like the big drum kits everybody played in those days. There are some tighter, crisper drums there but not too many. There's a good selection of snares but not so many good toms, unless you want to sound like old Van Halen or Twisted Sister. > > But even in my SPD-20, there are lots of great-sounding snares and kicks, good for today's tighter sound, but not as many good toms. Plus the cymbals in the SPD-20 are the typical Roland cymbals. They're OK and I guess they'll sound more natural in a busy track but by themselves they scream "I'm sampled!!!!" > > The Roland Drums & Cymbals CD has THE very best sampled crash cymbal I've ever heard. Even when I use the SPD-20 on my tracks I'm going to use that crash from the CD. I'll find out the exact sample or partial name if anyone's interested. > > Jesse > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 10:12:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:12:46 -0500 Received: from mail.infochan.com ([208.52.68.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:12:36 -0500 Received: from [208.52.75.27] by mail.infochan.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:07:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000701c1b0a8$eaeed700$eb53580c@epu1> References: <000701c1b0a8$eaeed700$eb53580c@epu1> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:10:58 -0500 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup What I'll Do. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 9:00 am -0500 8/2/2002, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >Hey Everyone, > >No, this particular CD ROM lists for $199. I'm going to see if i can find it >elsewhere for cheaper. As I told you all before, all of those samples on the >RHYTHMSECTION VOL. 1 and the DRUMS & CYMBALS CD were used on almost every >Roland instrument between 1991 and 1999. The XV line still uses them, but is >the first to my knowledge (aside from the V-Drums) that uses new samples. > >I'm tired of these samples as I already have most of them on my XP60. I >think I'll hang on to the RHYTHM SECTION INSTRUMENTS, PREVIEW DISC and >ROLAND SAMPLING SOWCASE disc just incase I want to sell my S760 somewhere >down the line. Those discs would probably increase the resale value. Until >then, I need better drum samples. This is what I bought the S760 for in the >first place. > >later, >Harold what type of music do you play? if you are playing rock check out spectrasonic burning grooves.. some nice kits on those. but they tend to be too aggresive for pop, or r&b etc. -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 13:20:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:20:46 -0500 Received: from randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.237]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:20:36 -0500 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.22]) by randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ZFdQ-0000tM-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 08 Feb 2002 13:20:32 -0500 Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id NAA0000028630; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:20:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:20:32 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.232 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If you're a fan of the 80s, analog synths and analog-synth based music, download this demo of the PPG Wave synth VST plug-in. It's a little ways down on the far right of the web page, under the heading 'Demosong.' http://www.steinberg.net/products/ae/plugins/ppg/ Yeah, it's dated and more than a little cheesy, but this is why I love the 80s. Light, breezy, happy music with a great vibe and bright, shiney, jagged, metallic sounds. Man, it makes me want to run out and buy one of these synths (and that's what the demo's for, right?). It's a real track more or less like a whole song; unfortunately there's nothing there to sample. Oh, and I found a very brief demo of a song I wrote with a friend; it's a version he did completely with the Yamaha TX81Z (except for drum machine). It's got a great angry FM patch that's really nice; it reminds me why I want to get one of those synths so much. It's not too big; if I can I'll convert it to an mp3 and try and upload it to some place accessible for anyone who's interested. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 14:07:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:07:17 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.93]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:07:06 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by anchor-post-35.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16ZGMO-000KYC-0Z for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 08 Feb 2002 19:07:01 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:00:28 -0500 Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick To: Subject: Re: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message , jsegovia@mindspring.com writes >Yeah, it's dated and more than a little cheesy, but this is why I love the 80s. >Light, breezy, happy music with a great vibe and bright, shiney, jagged, >metallic sounds. Man, it makes me want to run out and buy one of these synths >(and that's what the demo's for, right?). I have the PPG Wave demo, and apart from the annoying 'ping', I like the sound of it. Real Waves are still tolerably priced, so they may attract a following again when the VSTi circulates more :) One day I'll get a Wave and Waveterm ;) Richard -- Electronica Experimental music, 80s synth, CX5MII/128 |\ _,,,---,,_ Korg M1, rvrsP800, Trinity ProX, Casio DGs, iMac SE /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, Rolands D-50, S-5/50, SH-101, JD-800, TR-505, GR737 |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Music: http://www.mp3.com/RichardKilpatrick/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 14:16:13 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:16:04 -0500 Received: from randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.237]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:16:00 -0500 Received: from smui08.eng00.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.127]) by randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ZGV2-0005mK-00; Fri, 08 Feb 2002 14:15:56 -0500 Received: by smui08.eng00.mindspring.net id OAA0000030417; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:15:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:15:56 -0500 From: To: Richard Kilpatrick Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.232 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard Kilpatrick wrote: > I have the PPG Wave demo, and apart from the annoying 'ping', I like the > sound of it. Where's the demo located? I couldn't find it at either the Steinberg or Waves sites. Any other good soft synth demos out there? Does anyone think it's illegal or unethical to download these soft synth demos to your computer and then sample them, provided you can get a good signal out of your soundcard? > Real Waves are still tolerably priced, so they may attract > a following again when the VSTi circulates more :) They do sound good, but to be honest the last I need to do is learn to program ANOTHER piece of eqiupment. The reason I'm interested in a DX synth is besides the sound (which I like, anyway) there are thousands of patches easily accessible. If I ever do get one, I doubt I'll ever try any FM synthesis myself. Oh, and some not so good news: one of the TX7s I was looking at went for $125 on ebay. I guess they're not as cheap as I thought. 8-( Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 14:28:06 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:28:00 -0500 Received: from intmailvw05.lear.com (39.lear.com [63.68.196.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-4929>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:27:50 -0500 Received: from 10.0.4.95 by intmailvw05.lear.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 08 Feb 2002 14:27:46 -0500 Received: by inet-imc-01.headquarters.lear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1NGM1S1Y>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:27:46 -0500 Message-ID: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DAF1F71@oakville.oakville.lear.com> From: "Gallagher, Jon" Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca To: Subject: RE: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:27:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse.... Jesse.... Jesse, FM programming isn't NEARLY as difficult as say, triple bypass surgery.. hee hee I wonder if anyone has ever written a program to accept a sampled single wave segment and "reverse engineer" it to determine the FM algorithm/frequency combinations for DX-series synths...just a digression while we're on the topic of being off-topic > -----Original Message----- > From: jsegovia@mindspring.com [SMTP:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:16 PM > To: Richard Kilpatrick > Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s > > Richard Kilpatrick wrote: > > I have the PPG Wave demo, and apart from the annoying 'ping', I like the > > sound of it. > > Where's the demo located? I couldn't find it at either the Steinberg or > Waves sites. Any other good soft synth demos out there? > > Does anyone think it's illegal or unethical to download these soft synth > demos to your computer and then sample them, provided you can get a good > signal out of your soundcard? > > > Real Waves are still tolerably priced, so they may attract > > a following again when the VSTi circulates more :) > > They do sound good, but to be honest the last I need to do is learn to > program ANOTHER piece of eqiupment. The reason I'm interested in a DX > synth is besides the sound (which I like, anyway) there are thousands of > patches easily accessible. If I ever do get one, I doubt I'll ever try > any FM synthesis myself. > > Oh, and some not so good news: one of the TX7s I was looking at went for > $125 on ebay. I guess they're not as cheap as I thought. 8-( > > Jesse > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 14:38:34 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:38:26 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:38:23 -0500 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.22]) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ZGqe-0006vL-00; Fri, 08 Feb 2002 14:38:16 -0500 Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id OAA0000020222; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:38:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:38:15 -0500 From: To: JGallagher01@lear.com Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.232 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Gallagher, Jon" wrote: > Jesse.... Jesse.... Jesse,FM programming isn't NEARLY as difficult as say, triple bypass surgery.. hee > hee I know, given enough time and effort, I'm sure just about anyone could get to the point where they were generating the kind of sounds they were looking for. But who has the time? These days I don't even have time to record, let alone learn my digital workstation, set up my studio to where I'm comfortable, get my sequencer and workstation synced, etc. > I wonder if anyone has ever written a program to accept a sampled single > wave segment and "reverse engineer" it to determine the FM > algorithm/frequency combinations for DX-series synths VERY interesting question. But would there be just one combination per given sound? I thought FM synthesis was so flexible there could be many different ways to generate the same exact sound. If you could, what would happen if my daughter spoke into your reverse-engineering program? Could I then 'teach' my DX synth to sound just like my daughter? 8-) Was it Ingo who said there was a program for the Atari that would translate FM patch information into a usable sample? That's pretty wild! Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 14:45:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193713-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:45:28 -0500 Received: from intmailvw02.lear.com ([63.68.228.222]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:45:25 -0500 Received: from 10.0.4.95 by intmailvw02.lear.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 08 Feb 2002 14:45:13 -0500 Received: by inet-imc-01.headquarters.lear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1NGM1TS5>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:45:14 -0500 Message-ID: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DAF1F7E@oakville.oakville.lear.com> From: "Gallagher, Jon" To: Sgroup Subject: RE: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:45:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk it would have to be a single cycle "one zero point crossing" waveform I think... FM synthesis can produce VERY complex waveforms but they are all single cycle waves...Hmmmm anyone?? > -----Original Message----- > From: jsegovia@mindspring.com [SMTP:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:38 PM > To: JGallagher01@lear.com > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: RE: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s > > "Gallagher, Jon" wrote: > > Jesse.... Jesse.... Jesse,FM programming isn't NEARLY as difficult as > say, triple bypass surgery.. hee > > hee > > I know, given enough time and effort, I'm sure just about anyone could get > to the point where they were generating the kind of sounds they were > looking for. But who has the time? These days I don't even have time to > record, let alone learn my digital workstation, set up my studio to where > I'm comfortable, get my sequencer and workstation synced, etc. > > > I wonder if anyone has ever written a program to accept a sampled single > > wave segment and "reverse engineer" it to determine the FM > > algorithm/frequency combinations for DX-series synths > > VERY interesting question. But would there be just one combination per > given sound? I thought FM synthesis was so flexible there could be many > different ways to generate the same exact sound. > > If you could, what would happen if my daughter spoke into your > reverse-engineering program? Could I then 'teach' my DX synth to sound > just like my daughter? 8-) > > Was it Ingo who said there was a program for the Atari that would > translate FM patch information into a usable sample? That's pretty wild! > > Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 8 19:41:44 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:41:37 -0500 Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-4930>; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:41:30 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0df.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.175] helo=mindspring.com) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ZLZx-0002D7-00; Fri, 08 Feb 2002 19:41:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3C647029.5087E83@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:41:13 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Kilpatrick , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Never mind, I found it. Jesse jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: > > Richard Kilpatrick wrote: > > I have the PPG Wave demo, and apart from the annoying 'ping', I like the > > sound of it. > > Where's the demo located? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Feb 9 15:57:34 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-5178>; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:57:26 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-5178>; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:57:23 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g19KvDW40227 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 15:57:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-5177>; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 08:39:46 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-49-81.tnt7.me2.uunet.de [149.225.49.81]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id OAA11130 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 14:39:42 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C65257E.E2E9A4D8@cityweb.de> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 08:34:55 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Off-topic: Why We Love The 80s References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: > I know, given enough time and effort, I'm sure just about anyone could get to the point where they were generating the kind of sounds they were looking for. But who has the time? These days I don't even have time to record, let alone learn my digital workstation, set up my studio to where I'm comfortable, get my sequencer and workstation synced, etc. I can tell you from experience, looking for a specific sound and digging though 1000s of patches is very time consuming too. And the ear gets quickly tired, after a few 100 voices they all sound the same.... > > I wonder if anyone has ever written a program to accept a sampled single > > wave segment and "reverse engineer" it to determine the FM > > algorithm/frequency combinations for DX-series synths That was always a dream of mine. FM-resynthesis... But even with a very simplified 2-operator (one carrier/one modulator) it's quite a challenge to determine the FM parameters from a given waveform. > Was it Ingo who said there was a program for the Atari that would translate FM patch information into a usable sample? That's pretty wild! Yes, this was C-Lab X-Alyzer. I just dug out an old review. But meanwhile there's a program that does this in real-time: FM7. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Feb 10 23:11:16 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-16023>; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:11:08 -0500 Received: from ares.idirect.com ([207.136.80.180]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-16023>; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:11:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (CPE0003934e45d2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.156.141.32]) by ares.idirect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA70059 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:10:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:07:39 -0500 Subject: sgroup The SDISK image format Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v480) From: Steve Cowan To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.480) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk A friend of mine who is a programmer has expressed interest in creating a little Mac drag-and-drop app which will convert S-550/S-330 programs in SMAC image format to Emagic EXS24 instruments, including keymapping! This could be really useful if he actually comes through on it. He said he already has the EXS instrument file format, and what he wants to do is have the app create two long WAV files based on the two banks of sample data on the SDISK. Then the app would read the program info and simply point the EXS24 to the appropriate parts of the WAV files. Does anybody on this list either (a) have source code for the SMAC / SDISK suite, and/or (b) know how the program data is stored in there? Also, would there be copyright issues in 'appropriating' code from SMAC? Any help would be appreciated. BTW his intention is to release the app as shareware. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 11 08:00:01 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:59:52 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:59:49 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.86.89]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020211125945.VVFX21579.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:59:45 +0000 Message-ID: <001001c1b2fb$d43baa60$5956580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:58:39 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey All, For those programmers, why not re-create SDISK so it uses a GUI for Windows or Mac. this program should do the same thing that SDISK does. This programn should also convert S760 samples to .Wav files and be able to burn CDs for use with the Roland S700 series. I would be willing to pay for a program like this. Thanks, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Cowan To: Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: sgroup The SDISK image format > A friend of mine who is a programmer has expressed interest in creating > a little Mac drag-and-drop app which will convert S-550/S-330 programs > in SMAC image format to Emagic EXS24 instruments, including keymapping! > > This could be really useful if he actually comes through on it. He said > he already has the EXS instrument file format, and what he wants to do > is have the app create two long WAV files based on the two banks of > sample data on the SDISK. Then the app would read the program info and > simply point the EXS24 to the appropriate parts of the WAV files. > > Does anybody on this list either (a) have source code for the SMAC / > SDISK suite, and/or (b) know how the program data is stored in there? > Also, would there be copyright issues in 'appropriating' code from SMAC? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > BTW his intention is to release the app as shareware. > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 11 11:13:56 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:13:46 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:13:36 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3173BCF8 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA03813 for <>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:13:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C67EDA8.000001.19996@statler> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:13:28 -0500 From: blincoln To: Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk My understanding is that it's not possible because Windows doesn't allow direct access to the disk drive hardware. Anyone? "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > Hey All, > > For those programmers, why not re-create SDISK so it uses a GUI for Windows > or Mac. this program should do the same thing that SDISK does. This programn > should also convert S760 samples to .Wav files and be able to burn CDs for > use with the Roland S700 series. I would be willing to pay for a program > like this. > > Thanks, > Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Cowan nebula@idirect.com > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:07 PM > Subject: sgroup The SDISK image format > > > A friend of mine who is a programmer has expressed interest in creating > a little Mac drag-and-drop app which will convert S-550/S-330 programs > in SMAC image format to Emagic EXS24 instruments, including keymapping! > > This could be really useful if he actually comes through on it. He said > he already has the EXS instrument file format, and what he wants to do > is have the app create two long WAV files based on the two banks of > sample data on the SDISK. Then the app would read the program info andiR> > Does anybody on this list either (a) have source code for the SMAC / > SDISK suite, and/or (b) know how the program data is stored in there? > Also, would there be copyright issues in 'appropriating' code from SMAC? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > BTW his intention is to release the app as shareware. > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 11 11:19:01 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:18:53 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.49]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:18:47 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.216]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020211161844.XLAL22458.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:18:44 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c1b317$a157f380$d850580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <3C67EDA8.000001.19996@statler> Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:17:40 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey All, A programmer could possibly tackle. The Mac can do this. I've heard of people communicating with the S760 from the MAC through SCSI. I'm not even talking about this. I was referring to the cryptic DOS user interface (It does work though) with SDISK. I was hoping someone could make SDISK GUI friendly like AKAIDISK is. Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: blincoln To: Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:13 AM Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format > My understanding is that it's not possible because Windows doesn't > allow direct access to the disk drive hardware. Anyone? > > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > > Hey All, > > > > For those programmers, why not re-create SDISK so it uses a GUI for Windows > > or Mac. this program should do the same thing that SDISK does. This programn > > should also convert S760 samples to .Wav files and be able to burn CDs for > > use with the Roland S700 series. I would be willing to pay for a program > > like this. > > > > Thanks, > > Harold > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Steve Cowan nebula@idirect.com > > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:07 PM > > Subject: sgroup The SDISK image format > > > > > > A friend of mine who is a programmer has expressed interest in creating > > a little Mac drag-and-drop app which will convert S-550/S-330 programs > > in SMAC image format to Emagic EXS24 instruments, including keymapping! > > > > This could be really useful if he actually comes through on it. He said > > he already has the EXS instrument file format, and what he wants to do > > is have the app create two long WAV files based on the two banks of > > sample data on the SDISK. Then the app would read the program info andiR> > > Does anybody on this list either (a) have source code for the SMAC / > > SDISK suite, and/or (b) know how the program data is stored in there? > > Also, would there be copyright issues in 'appropriating' code from SMAC? > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > BTW his intention is to release the app as shareware. > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 11 11:28:33 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21753>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:28:24 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:28:12 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B63BD18 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA07073 for <>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:28:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C67F112.000001.20149@statler> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:28:02 -0500 From: blincoln To: Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Harold, I realized that that's what you meant. My point is that because Windows (especially 2k/XP/etc) doesn't allow applications to directly access the hardware, you can't read non-DOS-format disks from Windows apps. SDisk can read them because you have to run it in DOS mode, and DOS does allow applications to directly access the hardware. "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > Hey All, > > A programmer could possibly tackle. The Mac can do this. I've heard of > people communicating with the S760 from the MAC through SCSI. I'm not even > talking about this. I was referring to the cryptic DOS user interface (It > does work though) with SDISK. I was hoping someone could make SDISK GUI > friendly like AKAIDISK is. > > Later, > Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: blincoln blincoln@blarg.net > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format > > > My understanding is that it's not possible because Windows doesn't > allow direct access to the disk drive hardware. Anyone? > > Harold Everton, Jr. evertonrecords@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > Hey All, > > For those programmers, why not re-create SDISK so it uses a GUI for > Windows > or Mac. this program should do the same thing that SDISK does. This > programn > should also convert S760 samples to .Wav files and be able to burn CDs > for > use with the Roland S700 series. I would be willing to pay for a program > like this. > > Thanks, > Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Cowan nebula@idirect.com > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:07 PM > Subject: sgroup The SDISK image format > > > A friend of mine who is a programmer has expressed interest in creating > a little Mac drag-and-drop app which will convert S-550/S-330 programs > in SMAC image format to Emagic EXS24 instruments, including Ù5> > This could be really useful if he actually comes through on it. He > said > he already has the EXS instrument file format, and what he wants to do > is have the app create two long WAV files based on the two banks of > sample data on the SDISK. Then the app would read the program info > andiR > Does anybody on this list either (a) have source code for the SMAC / > SDISK suite, and/or (b) know how the program data is stored in there? > Also, would there be copyright issues in 'appropriating' code from > SMAC? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > BTW his intention is to release the app as shareware. > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 11 12:02:57 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21753>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:02:47 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21753>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:02:37 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.87.111]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020211170228.ZOFC21579.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:02:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c1b31d$bd3560a0$6f57580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <3C67F112.000001.20149@statler> Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:01:23 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Ben, Okay, I see where you're coming from. The thing is however, why is it that Akai Disk can do this. the Akai Disk program has been around just as long as S Disk, and the Akai Disk runs on the GUI. Akai disk does not need DOS to run. Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: blincoln To: Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:28 AM Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format Harold, I realized that that's what you meant. My point is that because Windows (especially 2k/XP/etc) doesn't allow applications to directly access the hardware, you can't read non-DOS-format disks from Windows apps. SDisk can read them because you have to run it in DOS mode, and DOS does allow applications to directly access the hardware. "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > Hey All, > > A programmer could possibly tackle. The Mac can do this. I've heard of > people communicating with the S760 from the MAC through SCSI. I'm not even > talking about this. I was referring to the cryptic DOS user interface (It > does work though) with SDISK. I was hoping someone could make SDISK GUI > friendly like AKAIDISK is. > > Later, > Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: blincoln blincoln@blarg.net > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format > > > My understanding is that it's not possible because Windows doesn't > allow direct access to the disk drive hardware. Anyone? > > Harold Everton, Jr. evertonrecords@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > Hey All, > > For those programmers, why not re-create SDISK so it uses a GUI for > Windows > or Mac. this program should do the same thing that SDISK does. This > programn > should also convert S760 samples to .Wav files and be able to burn CDs > for > use with the Roland S700 series. I would be willing to pay for a program > like this. > > Thanks, > Harold > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Cowan nebula@idirect.com > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 11:07 PM > Subject: sgroup The SDISK image format > > > A friend of mine who is a programmer has expressed interest in creating > a little Mac drag-and-drop app which will convert S-550/S-330 programs > in SMAC image format to Emagic EXS24 instruments, including Ù5> > This could be really useful if he actually comes through on it. He > said > he already has the EXS instrument file format, and what he wants to do > is have the app create two long WAV files based on the two banks of > sample data on the SDISK. Then the app would read the program info > andiR > Does anybody on this list either (a) have source code for the SMAC / > SDISK suite, and/or (b) know how the program data is stored in there? > Also, would there be copyright issues in 'appropriating' code from > SMAC? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > BTW his intention is to release the app as shareware. > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 11 12:40:27 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21753>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:40:19 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.50]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21753>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:40:09 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.87.111]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020211174002.YZQE3965.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:40:02 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c1b322$fc970460$6f57580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup RC-100 Controller! Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:38:57 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1B2F9.1292DCA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1B2F9.1292DCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey You All, I remember seeing people tryign to hock almost $200 for the RC-100 = Remote Controller calling it rare and hard to find. I thought I'd pass = along the information that ZZ Sounds still has these for $69!!!! Check = it out! http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLRC100&a=3DadTL,011018 I caught this while web surfing today. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1B2F9.1292DCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey You All,
 
I remember seeing people tryign to hock = almost $200=20 for the RC-100 Remote Controller calling it rare and hard to find. I = thought I'd=20 pass along the information that ZZ Sounds still has these for $69!!!! = Check it=20 out!
 
http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLRC100&a=3DadTL,011018=
 
I caught this while web surfing = today.
 
Later,
Harold
 
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From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 11 13:24:19 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21753>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:24:09 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21753>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:24:03 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1BILxs33240 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:21:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from quay.tripfinder.com.au (www.tripfinder.com.au [61.8.3.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21753>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 05:09:45 -0500 Received: from parrot.cairead.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by quay.tripfinder.com.au (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g1BA9Uj27452; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:09:30 +1100 (EST) Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13663; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:07:57 GMT Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id KAA13102; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:07:55 GMT Message-Id: <200202111007.KAA13102@uv.cairead.com> Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format In-Reply-To: from Steve Cowan at "Feb 10, 2002 11:07:39 pm" To: Steve Cowan Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 05:07:55 -0500 CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: nic@tripfinder.com.au (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j} A friend of mine who is a programmer has expressed interest in creating [ ... snip ... ] => Does anybody on this list either (a) have source code for the SMAC / => SDISK suite, and/or (b) know how the program data is stored in there? => Also, would there be copyright issues in 'appropriating' code from SMAC? Hi Steve, I do have access to the sdisk source... However, this is not going to help you very much. sdisk just reads the disk byte for byte and stores it in a file, much like the unix 'dd' command. It does not really have any idea about the actual data format at all, other than a tiny bit of code that looks at the first sector and works out from fingerprints what type of disk it is. On the sgroup ftp archive, I am certain there are format descriptions for many of the S series samplers or example C/pascal code. I also have the S7XX HD format somewhere (although I am not sure this is useful for you) which I could dig up if you need it. Take a look at the sgroup ftp archive and you may find just the information your friend needs. Best of luck, and feel free to post to sgroup with any more questions or let us know how your project is going. Regards, Nic. -- Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@soft-audio.com, voice/fax: +1 650 618 1713 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 11 13:45:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:45:48 -0500 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:45:37 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16aLRz-000KmK-0K for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:45:15 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:39:31 -0500 Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick To: Subject: Re: sgroup RC-100 Controller! References: <000901c1b322$fc970460$6f57580c@epu1> In-Reply-To: <000901c1b322$fc970460$6f57580c@epu1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message <000901c1b322$fc970460$6f57580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. writes > Hey You All, >   > I remember seeing people tryign to hock almost $200 for the RC-100 > Remote Controller calling it rare and hard to find. I thought I'd > pass along the information that ZZ Sounds still has these for > $69!!!! Check it out! >   > http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.ROLRC100&a=adTL,011018 >   > I caught this while web surfing today. If anyone in the US could help me get one of these from them and ship it to the UK as a gift (bloody customs are on some nut-case level at the moment) I can pay by PayPal for one at the end of the week - obviously I'll pay first, and pay for the combined shipping cost if ZZSounds charge shipping. Richard, has just arranged another S-550 with broken display to get a UK PSU and diskdrive. -- Richard Kilpatrick, long haired prophet of doom. |\ _,,,---,,_ Musical suicide - www.mp3.com/RichardKilpatrick /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, Work: Icon Publications, Group Sales Manager |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 11 13:55:40 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:55:31 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21754>; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:55:28 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1BIpu834347; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:51:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:51:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200202111851.g1BIpu834347@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: nebula@idirect.com, nic@tripfinder.com.au Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | On the sgroup ftp archive, I am certain there are format descriptions for | many of the S series samplers or example C/pascal code. I also have the | S7XX HD format somewhere (although I am not sure this is useful for you) | which I could dig up if you need it. Take a look at the sgroup ftp | archive and you may find just the information your friend needs. http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/utilities/source/ John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 03:23:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 03:23:19 -0500 Received: from mail13.uunet.ca ([142.77.1.50]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 03:23:04 -0500 Received: from jolabraise.virtua.ch ([62.2.186.253]) by mail13.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <267955-3317>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 03:22:55 -0500 Received: from leguman.aubonne.virtua.ch (leguman.aubonne.virtua.ch [192.168.1.143]) by jolabraise.virtua.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F13E34E3; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:09:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format From: Marcel Prisi To: Nic Grant Cc: Steve Cowan , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <200202111007.KAA13102@uv.cairead.com> References: <200202111007.KAA13102@uv.cairead.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 03:21:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1013502109.1711.0.camel@leguman.aubonne.virtua.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all !! For those that don't like sdisk's user interface, there is a windows software that should help : Just have a look at http://www.winimage.com I did not try it whith S-series floppies, but I've been using it for many different things reliably, and as it does just what sdisk does (reading/writing bits to floppy) it should work ok, even with sdisk images. Please test it and report !! -- :: marcel prisi / technical manager ------------------- - - - - - - - virtua.ch web solutions Ruelle du Soleil Levant 6 CH - 1170 Aubonne T. +41 21 807 28 00 F. +41 21 807 28 01 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 07:26:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:26:04 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.50]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:25:54 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.176]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020212122543.QCZ27356.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:25:43 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c1b3c0$3ca7b0c0$b055580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Win Image Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:24:31 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B396.50507140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B396.50507140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I checked out what that guy Mark told us to do. There is that program = WinImage that acts just like SDISK does, but in a windows environment. = In addition to creating Flopp images, it seems to be able to format ISO = images in the same "format" of the floppy. This thing has lots of other = options too. It makes me wonder if we could make Roland formatted = CD-ROMS with this program. This thing looks very interesting.=20 If we were to attatch a Zip Drive to our PC for example, we could = probably transfer the ISO image of the ZIP (it is supported by this = program) to a Blank CD, and then burn the CD-ROM into Roland format! Check this out: http://www.winimage.com/winimage.htm Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B396.50507140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I checked out what that guy Mark told = us to do.=20 There is that program WinImage that acts just like SDISK does, but in a = windows=20 environment. In addition to creating Flopp images, it seems to be able = to format=20 ISO images in the same "format" of the floppy. This thing has lots of = other=20 options too. It makes me wonder if we could make Roland formatted = CD-ROMS with=20 this program. This thing looks very interesting.
 
If we were to attatch a Zip Drive to = our PC for=20 example, we could probably transfer the ISO image of the ZIP (it is = supported by=20 this program) to a Blank CD, and then burn the CD-ROM into Roland=20 format!
 
Check this out: http://www.winimage.com/win= image.htm
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B396.50507140-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 07:52:04 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:51:55 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:51:45 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.186]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020212125139.BATT23165.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:51:39 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c1b3c3$dbee32a0$ba50580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Ullrich Peter" , References: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6026CE0AF@hati.kapsch.co.at> Subject: Re: sgroup Win Image Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:50:31 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey U. Peter, Give it a shot! When I have the time and another ZIP (I have the SCSI, I need an IDE one for the PC), I'll give it a shot. Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Ullrich Peter To: Harold Everton, Jr. ; Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 7:31 AM Subject: AW: sgroup Win Image Hi! >I checked out what that guy Mark told us to do. There is that program WinImage that acts just like SDISK does, but in a windows >environment. For this we also had another freeware program called FLOPPYIMAGE. I patched this program so that the *.OUT extension was in the file dialog. >In addition to creating Flopp images, it seems to be able to format ISO images in the same "format" of the floppy. This thing has lots >of other options too. It makes me wonder if we could make Roland formatted CD-ROMS with this program. This thing looks very >interesting. Would be nice. For this purpose there was only the program W30CD from Garbor Picasz from Hungary but I have never tested this program and it is not longer on Garbors Website. But I can give it away as he told me in an email. But the imiage solution should be nicer. >If we were to attatch a Zip Drive to our PC for example, we could probably transfer the ISO image of the ZIP (it is supported by this >program) to a Blank CD, and then burn the CD-ROM into Roland format! This would be the best solution for me as I am using a ZIP-drive and a syquest drive. Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. KAPSCH AG / TrafficCom Vienna / Austria ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 08:07:01 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:06:52 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:06:48 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.199]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020212130646.BGAK18604.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:06:46 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01c1b3c5$f82ccf60$c752580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup How can I get rid of ambience tails? Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:05:38 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1B39C.0E7C9400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1B39C.0E7C9400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I have two drum kits that I ripped from the Roland Preview Sampling = Disc. Both of these kits have long reverb tails that I could care less = for. How can I get rid of this ambience. On my Roland XP60, all I had to = do was mess around with the TVA, cutting down on certain levels. I can't = seem to do this properly on the S760, probably becuase all of the = samples on the S760 are in stereo. How can I do this. I had the manual, but accidentally shipped it off in = an auction. All I have now it the supplementary manual. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1B39C.0E7C9400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I have two drum kits that I ripped from = the Roland=20 Preview Sampling Disc. Both of these kits have long reverb tails that I = could=20 care less for. How can I get rid of this ambience. On my Roland XP60, = all I had=20 to do was mess around with the TVA, cutting down on certain levels. I = can't seem=20 to do this properly on the S760, probably becuase all of the samples on = the S760=20 are in stereo.
 
How can I do this. I had the manual, = but=20 accidentally shipped it off in an auction. All I have now it the = supplementary=20 manual.
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1B39C.0E7C9400-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 10:25:32 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:25:23 -0500 Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com ([65.24.0.112]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:25:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (grv230021.columbus.rr.com [204.210.230.21]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1CFKFN10656 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:20:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:25:16 -0500 From: Gaffa X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Personal Reply-To: Gaffa X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10952891854.20020212102516@columbus.rr.com> To: Roland S-Group Subject: sgroup s-50 disks etc... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey guys, I recently renewed my interest in my old S-50 and I've come to find out that quite a few of my floppies have gone bad. Is there a decent source for S-50 samples out there? I seem to remember hearing a rumor years ago that Roland was going to make their old libraries available online? Also, any chance of finding any accessories for an S-50? Thanks, L.R. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 11:19:47 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:19:40 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:19:30 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1CGHKQ69678; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:17:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:17:20 -0500 Message-Id: <200202121617.g1CGHKQ69678@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: gaffa@columbus.rr.com Subject: Re: sgroup s-50 disks etc... Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:25:16 -0500 | From: Gaffa | | Hey guys, | I recently renewed my interest in my old S-50 and I've come to find | out that quite a few of my floppies have gone bad. Is there a decent | source for S-50 samples out there? I seem to remember hearing a rumor | years ago that Roland was going to make their old libraries available | online? Most of the S-50 library is at http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/Roland/ John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 12:08:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:08:48 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:08:45 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1CH77472261 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:07:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:31:23 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.2-X An9h) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:31:10 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Subject: AW: sgroup Win Image Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:31:09 -0500 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6026CE0AF@hati.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Win Image Thread-Index: AcGzwIe3O84ZXvUjRAGg2kmMYjyJjQAAIZ0A From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! =20 >I checked out what that guy Mark told us to do. There is that program WinImage that acts just like SDISK does, but in a windows=20 >environment.=20 For this we also had another freeware program called FLOPPYIMAGE. I patched this program so that the *.OUT extension was in the file dialog. >In addition to creating Flopp images, it seems to be able to format ISO images in the same "format" of the floppy. This thing has lots >of other options too. It makes me wonder if we could make Roland formatted CD-ROMS with this program. This thing looks very=20 >interesting.=20 Would be nice. For this purpose there was only the program W30CD from Garbor Picasz from Hungary but I have never tested this program and it is not longer on Garbors Website. But I can give it away as he told me in an email. But the imiage solution should be nicer. =20 >If we were to attatch a Zip Drive to our PC for example, we could probably transfer the ISO image of the ZIP (it is supported by this=20 >program) to a Blank CD, and then burn the CD-ROM into Roland format! This would be the best solution for me as I am using a ZIP-drive and a syquest drive. Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. KAPSCH AG / TrafficCom Vienna / Austria ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ > =20 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 12:10:46 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:10:37 -0500 Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.161]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193717-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:10:30 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id h.46.2260ab08 (3850); Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:10:22 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <46.2260ab08.299aa67e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:10:22 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup s-50 disks etc... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: undisclosed-recipients :; X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk L.R. if you write to my email: daja300@aol.com I can offer you quite a library of S-50 sounds for sale. Thanks Dave >>Hey guys, I recently renewed my interest in my old S-50 and I've come to find out that quite a few of my floppies have gone bad. Is there a decent source for S-50 samples out there? I seem to remember hearing a rumor years ago that Roland was going to make their old libraries available online? Also, any chance of finding any accessories for an S-50? Thanks, L.R.<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 12:23:55 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:23:50 -0500 Received: from randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.237]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193718-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:23:35 -0500 Received: from smui08.eng00.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.127]) by randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16ageN-0002y9-00; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:23:27 -0500 Received: by smui08.eng00.mindspring.net id MAA0000021088; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:23:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:23:13 -0500 From: To: Ullrich Peter Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: AW: sgroup Win Image Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ullrich Peter wrote: > Would be nice. For this purpose there was only the program W30CD from > Garbor Picasz from Hungary but I have never tested this program and it > is not longer on Garbors Website. But I can give it away as he told me > in an email. But the imiage solution should be nicer. How does this work? If it can create Roland-formated CDs what dos it use for input? A Zip disk as Howard suggests or does it have to be from a Roland-formatted SCSI hard drive? Please let us know more about his program! Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 14:07:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193720-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:07:50 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193719-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:07:39 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1CJ6KG76138 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:06:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:00:26 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.2-X An9h) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:00:20 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Subject: AW: sgroup Win Image Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:00:19 -0500 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6026CE0B0@hati.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Win Image Thread-Index: AcGzxAXVNYX2PNsAQe26NG1AEhQpZgAAT5LQ From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Harold! >Give it a shot! When I have the time and another ZIP (I have the SCSI, I >need an IDE one for the PC), I'll give it a shot. And what about connecting your SCSI-ZIP-drive to your PC?=20 Or do you have no scsi card? I have some ZIP-drives but I am still waiting for a CD-5 cd-player.=20 I won an auction on EBAY USA last week but it will take about 8 weeks until it is here in Austria. I hope that it is not damaged. All other scsi drives did not work... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. KAPSCH AG / TrafficCom Vienna / Austria ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 14:08:49 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193721-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:08:40 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193720-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:08:36 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1CJ7JR76169 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:07:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:41:51 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-32-225.tnt5.me2.uunet.de [149.225.32.225]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id PAA06741 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:41:45 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C67E41A.A8FFE577@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:32:44 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup The SDISK image format References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Steve Cowan wrote: > Does anybody on this list either (a) have source code for the SMAC / > SDISK suite, and/or (b) know how the program data is stored in there? > Also, would there be copyright issues in 'appropriating' code from SMAC? There's a third program that does the disk image reading/writing, called SAMDISK. Sources are included. The file format is the same as SDISK/SMAC. (The source is in old K&R-style C, I converted this once to ANSI C if anyone's interested). But the sources don't contain any information where the sample data actually are stored. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 15:01:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:01:19 -0500 Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com ([65.24.0.112]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193721-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:01:15 -0500 Received: from localhost (grv230021.columbus.rr.com [204.210.230.21]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1CJuFN04251 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:56:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:01:17 -0500 From: Gaffa X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Personal Reply-To: Gaffa X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4169452707.20020212150117@columbus.rr.com> To: Roland S-Group Subject: sgroup SCSI Zip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I've seen some discussion mentioning scsi Zip drives. Is it possible to just hook one up to an S-50? Or do you need some type of kit? Thanks, L.R. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 16:04:51 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:04:43 -0500 Received: from clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com ([65.24.0.112]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193724-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:04:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (grv230021.columbus.rr.com [204.210.230.21]) by clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g1CKxWN21661 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:59:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:04:34 -0500 From: Gaffa X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Personal Reply-To: Gaffa X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1773250438.20020212160434@columbus.rr.com> To: Roland S-Group Subject: sgroup Sdisk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk When using sdisk I keep getting the following errors... Diskette is too small/large for file: 501_1.out Diskette Error: Address mark not found I'm using new disks so I'm not sure why I'm getting these messages. Anyone know what I might be doign wrong? Thanks, - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 16:49:36 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193726-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:49:26 -0500 Received: from hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193725-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:49:24 -0500 Received: from smui08.eng00.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.127]) by hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16aknb-0003tR-00; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:49:15 -0500 Received: by smui08.eng00.mindspring.net id QAA0000009814; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:49:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:49:06 -0500 From: To: gaffa@columbus.rr.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Sdisk Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk You have to use diskettes that are DOS formatted to 720Kb before running sdisk. It's best to use actual 720Kb double-density diskettes instead of high-density diskettes formatted to the lower 720Kb size. Jesse Gaffa wrote: > When using sdisk I keep getting the following errors... Diskette is too small/large for file: 501_1.out Diskette Error: Address mark not found I'm using new disks so I'm not sure why I'm getting these messages. Anyone know what I might be doign wrong? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 16:57:50 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193727-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:57:42 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193726-19528>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:57:32 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id OAA16211; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma016200; Tue, 12 Feb 02 14:06:40 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1CLumo84468; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:56:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:56:48 -0500 Message-Id: <200202122156.g1CLumo84468@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: gaffa@columbus.rr.com Subject: Re: sgroup Sdisk Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:04:34 -0500 | From: Gaffa | | When using sdisk I keep getting the following errors... | | Diskette is too small/large for file: 501_1.out | Diskette Error: Address mark not found | | I'm using new disks so I'm not sure why I'm getting these | messages. Anyone know what I might be doign wrong? See the note here about formatting your diskettes: http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/hints.html John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 17:10:30 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193728-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:10:17 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193727-19527>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:10:11 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.80]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020212221000.DJWY17603.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:10:00 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c1b411$db2715a0$5055580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup What about this? Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:08:51 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1B3E7.F156CF20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1B3E7.F156CF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Anyone ever run into or see this hot looking drum sample CD(s) from = Wizoo. It's called Platinum 24 Acoustic Drums. The set has 32 drum kits = (including reverb kits) and percussion retailing for less than $100. = It's supposedly very good. The site says that Keyboard magazine gave it = a very good review. It's available in Akai S1000 format. I think this = looks like a good buy. Check out the info.=20 I'm looking to get a library similar to the kits on the Roland SRX01 = Drum Expansion board. URL: = http://www.esoundz.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=3DPROD&Store_Code=3DE= S&Product_Code=3Dwz-ad&Category_Code=3Dpsl-w URL2: http://www.instrument-online.nu/arkiv/tester3/acousticdrums.html URL3 (Important): http://www.sounduser.com/pageview.cfm?cd=3D36&p=3D2 Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1B3E7.F156CF20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
Anyone ever run into or see this hot = looking drum=20 sample CD(s) from Wizoo. It's called Platinum 24 Acoustic Drums. The set = has 32=20 drum kits (including reverb kits) and percussion retailing for less than = $100.=20 It's supposedly very good. The site says that Keyboard magazine gave it = a very=20 good review. It's available in Akai S1000 format. I think this looks = like a good=20 buy. Check out the info.
 
I'm looking to get a library similar to = the kits on=20 the Roland SRX01 Drum Expansion board.
 
URL:  http://= www.esoundz.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=3DPROD&Store_Code=3DES&a= mp;Product_Code=3Dwz-ad&Category_Code=3Dpsl-w
 
URL2: http://www.instrument-online.nu/arkiv/tester3/acousticdrums.html
 
URL3 (Important): http://w= ww.sounduser.com/pageview.cfm?cd=3D36&p=3D2
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1B3E7.F156CF20-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 17:29:16 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193729-18120>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:29:05 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193728-18120>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:28:59 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.80]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020212222857.DYTI29236.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:28:57 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c1b414$813a1ee0$5055580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup I think this would be great! Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:27:48 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B3EA.973F1EE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B3EA.973F1EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I think I made my decision now. The best value for really good Guitar = and Drum samples would have to be Wizoo's "Platinum 24 Acoustic Drums" = and Pro-Sample's (Best Service/East West collab.) Guitar & Bass = (Featuring multi-samples from Quantum Leap's Guitar & Bass library, but = for $49!). These would be the best value for sound. We are talking $100 = and $50 respectively. You can't beat these deals. Off to save up and = buy!!!!! Later, Harold - One of the few who doesn't need loops to make music! ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B3EA.973F1EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah,
 
I think I made my decision now. The = best value for=20 really good Guitar and Drum samples would have to be Wizoo's "Platinum = 24=20 Acoustic Drums" and Pro-Sample's (Best Service/East West collab.) Guitar = &=20 Bass (Featuring multi-samples from Quantum Leap's Guitar & Bass = library, but=20 for $49!). These would be the best value for sound. We are talking $100 = and $50=20 respectively. You can't beat these deals. Off to save up and=20 buy!!!!!
 
Later,
Harold - One of the few who doesn't = need loops to=20 make music!
 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B3EA.973F1EE0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 17:52:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-708>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:52:46 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193719-708>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:52:36 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.80]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020212225223.EWCB10911.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:52:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c1b417$c741a4a0$5055580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , References: <000e01c1b411$db2715a0$5055580c@epu1> <006e01c1b417$211a3e20$b000a8c0@bc.hsia.telus.net> Subject: sgroup Re: [Roland-XV-5080] What about this? Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:51:14 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1B3ED.DD46A4A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1B3ED.DD46A4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey David, It's a toughy (thanks for taking interest in this too). I want those SRX = Drums, but not the module. Roland is great when it comes to teasing and = marketing I guess. The interactive drums and snares from Sonic Reality = looks good, but too expensive for only 12 kits. At least the Wizoo = contains more and is half the price, as well as being on CD-ROM. I hate = audio CDs. I wish there was a solution. Later, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David R. Green=20 To: Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [Roland-XV-5080] What about this? Hi Harold, I checked out the CD info and the review, and it looks like a decent = set for the price. The MP3 demo on Wizoo's site seemed to suffer from some bad mulching, = quite bad for a 128kbps MP3, hopefully that isn't in the samples, but = otherwise the sounds and fidelity was good. However, it isn't available in Roland format, and convert-loading Akai = format into the S-760 is not fast and not comprehensive. So it is = possible you may have to fix up the loaded Patches and re-save them to = HD as Roland format. I have a few [more expensive] Drum CDs (not from Spectrasonics), and = you have to watch the reviews. I purchased the various sets I have = based on the reviews and limited on-line demos, and was disappointed = with the CDs. David dgreen@lilchips.com ------------------------------------------------------- Li'l Chips Systems - BC Canada Email: info@lilchips.com Web: http://www.lilchips.com * Consulting * Audio * Video * Graphics * Internet * ------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Everton, Jr.=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca ; Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: [Roland-XV-5080] What about this? Hey All, Anyone ever run into or see this hot looking drum sample CD(s) from = Wizoo. It's called Platinum 24 Acoustic Drums. The set has 32 drum kits = (including reverb kits) and percussion retailing for less than $100. = It's supposedly very good. The site says that Keyboard magazine gave it = a very good review. It's available in Akai S1000 format. I think this = looks like a good buy. Check out the info.=20 I'm looking to get a library similar to the kits on the Roland SRX01 = Drum Expansion board. URL: = http://www.esoundz.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=3DPROD&Store_Code=3DE= S&Product_Code=3Dwz-ad&Category_Code=3Dpsl-w URL2: = http://www.instrument-online.nu/arkiv/tester3/acousticdrums.html URL3 (Important): = http://www.sounduser.com/pageview.cfm?cd=3D36&p=3D2 Later, Harold [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 ADVERTISEMENT =20 =20 =20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: XV5080-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. = [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 ADVERTISEMENT =20 =20 =20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: XV5080-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1B3ED.DD46A4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey David,
 
It's a toughy (thanks for taking = interest in this=20 too). I want those SRX Drums, but not the module. Roland is great when = it comes=20 to teasing and marketing I guess. The interactive drums and snares from = Sonic=20 Reality looks good, but too expensive for only 12 kits. At least the = Wizoo=20 contains more and is half the price, as well as being on CD-ROM. I hate = audio=20 CDs. I wish there was a solution.
 
Later,
Harold
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David R.=20 Green
To: Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com=
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, = 2002 5:46=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Roland-XV-5080] = What about=20 this?

Hi Harold,

I checked out the CD info and the = review,=20 and it looks like a decent set for the price.
The MP3 demo on = Wizoo's site=20 seemed to suffer from some bad mulching, quite bad for a 128kbps MP3,=20 hopefully that isn't in the samples, but otherwise the sounds and = fidelity was=20 good.

However, it isn't available in Roland format, and = convert-loading=20 Akai format into the S-760 is not fast and not comprehensive.  So = it is=20 possible you may have to fix up the loaded Patches and re-save them to = HD as=20 Roland format.

I have a few [more expensive] Drum CDs (not from = Spectrasonics), and you have to watch the reviews.  I purchased = the=20 various sets I have based on the reviews and limited on-line demos, = and was=20 disappointed with the=20 = CDs.

David
dgreen@lilchips.com

-------------------------= ------------------------------
Li'l=20 Chips Systems - BC Canada

Email: = info@lilchips.com
Web:  http://www.lilchips.com

* = Consulting=20 * Audio * Video * Graphics * Internet=20 *
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  = -----=20 Original Message -----
  From: Harold Everton, Jr.
  = To:=20 sgroup@lists.uunet.ca ; Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com
  = Sent:=20 Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:08 PM
  Subject: [Roland-XV-5080] = What=20 about this?


  Hey All,

  Anyone ever run = into or=20 see this hot looking drum sample CD(s) from Wizoo. It's called = Platinum 24=20 Acoustic Drums. The set has 32 drum kits (including reverb kits) and=20 percussion retailing for less than $100. It's supposedly very good. = The site=20 says that Keyboard magazine gave it a very good review. It's available = in Akai=20 S1000 format. I think this looks like a good buy. Check out the info.=20

  I'm looking to get a library similar to the kits on the = Roland=20 SRX01 Drum Expansion board.

  URL:  http://= www.esoundz.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=3DPROD&Store_Code=3DES&a= mp;Product_Code=3Dwz-ad&Category_Code=3Dpsl-w

 =20 URL2: http://www.instrument-online.nu/arkiv/tester3/acousticdrums.html
=
 =20 URL3 (Important): http://w= ww.sounduser.com/pageview.cfm?cd=3D36&p=3D2

 =20 Later,
  Harold


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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C1B3ED.DD46A4A0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 18:08:03 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-708>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:07:53 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193718-708>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:07:50 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.57]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020212230740.FDVN29236.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:07:40 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c1b419$e9ca0ec0$3955580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup Drum Sample Quest Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 18:06:31 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B3EF.FFD6AFE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B3EF.FFD6AFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I'm so desperate for a good drum sample CD, that I'd be willing to trade = three of my own sample CDs for one. I have these three: a.. Roland Rhythm Section Instruments Vol. 1 b.. Roland Preview Sampling CD Vol. 1 c.. Roland Sampling Showcase CD I don't have a need for these. Since Roland released these for the = XV5080 recently (and repackaged), I figured someone would have a need = for them. I just want a damn good drum sampling CD on par with the SRX = Dynamic Drum Board. I'd trade my three for your one. The CD could be in = Akai or Roland format. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C1B3EF.FFD6AFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I'm so desperate for a good drum sample = CD, that=20 I'd be willing to trade three of my own sample CDs for one. I have these = three:
 
  • Roland Rhythm Section = Instruments=20 Vol. 1
  • Roland Preview = Sampling CD Vol.=20 1
  • Roland Sampling = Showcase=20 CD
I don't have a need for these. Since = Roland=20 released these for the XV5080 recently (and repackaged), I figured = someone would=20 have a need for them. I just want a damn good drum sampling CD on par = with the=20 SRX Dynamic Drum Board. I'd trade my three for your one. The CD could be = in Akai=20 or Roland format.
 
Later,
Harold
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From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 19:02:36 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193720-18120>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:02:26 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193719-708>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:02:20 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.185]) by tweakhead.com ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:02:13 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Drum Sample Quest Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:03:08 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <101355853401@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I'm so desperate for a good drum sample CD check out Johnny C's Vinatge Snares for Akai...dead good if you need top-flight snares. multiple hits, multiple-hit styles, excellent sound, excellent snares... cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 19:03:41 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-708>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:03:31 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193720-708>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:03:25 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.185]) by tweakhead.com ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:03:17 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Re: [Roland-XV-5080] What about this? Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:04:12 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <101355859801@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >It's a toughy (thanks for taking interest in this too). I want those SRX >Drums, but not the module. I thiught the SRX drums were largely crap, as they were sampled with ambience...making them largely unusable for any professional production. my 2=A2, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 12 22:17:46 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-18120>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:17:38 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-18120>; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:17:27 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.133]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020213031722.OLSH17603.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 03:17:22 +0000 Message-ID: <001201c1b43c$caec3640$8550580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <000e01c1b411$db2715a0$5055580c@epu1> <3C69D133.C5C8B4D3@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup What about this? Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:16:12 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey All (+ Jesse), www.wizoo.com. There is a link on the site on the product's page. Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Segovia To: Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:36 PM Subject: Re: sgroup What about this? > I checked this out and it sounds very interesting. Can you tell me > where the sound demo is? I couldn't find it at any of these pages. > > Jesse > > > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > > > Hey All, > > > > Anyone ever run into or see this hot looking drum sample CD(s) from Wizoo. It's called Platinum 24 Acoustic Drums. The set has 32 drum kits (including reverb kits) and percussion retailing for less than $100. It's supposedly very good. The site says that Keyboard magazine gave it a very good review. It's available in Akai S1000 format. I think this looks like a good buy. Check out the info. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. 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From owner-sgroup Wed Feb 13 11:18:46 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-17872>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:18:33 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-17872>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:18:32 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id IAA18324; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma018320; Wed, 13 Feb 02 08:27:55 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1DGI3c11012 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:18:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:45:58 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.2-X An9h) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:45:54 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Subject: AW: sgroup The SDISK image format / CD-making tool Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 08:45:53 -0500 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6026CE0CF@hati.kapsch.co.at> Thread-Topic: sgroup The SDISK image format Thread-Index: AcGznqNU+Os935mqRfux/dcBis/SzAA9gzBw From: "Ullrich Peter" To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >For those that don't like sdisk's user interface, there is a windows >software that should help : Just have a look at > >http://www.winimage.com > >I did not try it whith S-series floppies, but I've been using it for >many different things reliably, and as it does just what sdisk does >(reading/writing bits to floppy) it should work ok, even with sdisk >images. The program disk2file does the same and should also work with zip-drives as the Roland samplers are mentioned in the Readme-File... I found it on a homepage where a guy assembled a zipfile for making AKAI-CDROMs. There are 2 version of disk2file inside and CDRWIN and a documentation on how to do it. The file is 714kB. To John Sellens: Would it be interesting enough for putting it on the SGROUP-Server? Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. KAPSCH AG / TrafficCom Vienna / Austria ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Feb 13 13:01:18 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:01:15 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:00:59 -0500 Received: from smui04.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.26]) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16b3i7-0001Hx-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:00:51 -0500 Received: by smui04.slb.mindspring.net id NAA0000009553; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:00:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:00:47 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup [Fwd: sample arena - three new sample CDROMs] Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Sorry - I didn't realize how large this file was before I forwarded it. 8-( Jesse Jesse Segovia wrote: > 'Not sure where this came from, but just in case anyone's interested ... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Feb 13 14:03:08 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-17872>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:02:59 -0500 Received: from sirppi.helsinki.fi ([128.214.205.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-17872>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:02:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by sirppi.helsinki.fi (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1DJ2no02441; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:02:49 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: sirppi.helsinki.fi: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:02:48 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: cc: Subject: Re: sgroup What about this? In-Reply-To: <000e01c1b411$db2715a0$5055580c@epu1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Anyone ever run into or see this hot looking drum sample CD(s) from > Wizoo. It's called Platinum 24 Acoustic Drums. /.../ Yes, I own this twin CD-ROM. Have only listened to it briefly. I picked it up based on the Keyboard magazine review. The favourable words are true. It has great sounds, several makes of drums, different ambiences and so on. And without doubt the material is great in the right hands. With this I mean that the level of sophistication on these samples seems to be above my abilities ;-) For me as a beginner S-760 user there are two downsides with the "Platinum 24": the AKAI format and the overwhelming quality. The "Platinum 24" is only available in Akai S1000 format and the conversion has turned out to be harder than I thought. Furthermore the samples are so refined, with such delicately small differences that I barely can hear the difference. This means that you have to search for a sound and convert it only to find that it wasn't the right one, and then start all over again. The trouble doesn't seem to be worth it... jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Feb 13 14:39:17 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:39:08 -0500 Received: from randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.237]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:38:58 -0500 Received: from smui00.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.20]) by randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16b5F0-0001UF-00; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:38:54 -0500 Received: by smui00.slb.mindspring.net id OAA0000024291; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:38:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:38:50 -0500 From: To: Jussi Piekkala Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: sgroup What about this? Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have two questions for Jussi: 1) Aren't there already complete drum kits included in the 'Platinum 24' CD? If so, can you Convert Load them and use them as is? 2) I think the S-760 allows you to load a bunch of samples from a CD but load the patch and performance information from floppy. So can you Convert Load all the volumes you need (for example Snare 1, Kicks 3, Toms 2, Cymbals 3, etc.), create your own drum kit performances, and then save those performances to floppy? From then on, as I understand it, all you need to do is load the same volumes of samples from the CD, load your performances from floppy and you're all set. Of course, you have to go through all the sounds when you set up your performances but at least you don't have to Convert Load samples one by one. Jesse Jussi Piekkala wrote: > For me as a beginner S-760 user there are two downsides with > the "Platinum 24": the AKAI format and the overwhelming quality. > The "Platinum 24" is only available in Akai S1000 format and the > conversion has turned out to be harder than I thought. Furthermore the > samples are so refined, with such delicately small differences that I > barely can hear the difference. This means that you have to search for a > sound and convert it only to find that it wasn't the right one, and then > start all over again. The trouble doesn't seem to be worth it... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Feb 13 18:44:55 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:44:46 -0500 Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:44:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g1DNiVH22251 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 01:44:31 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: kruuna.Helsinki.FI: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 18:44:30 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: sgroup Platinum_24 [was: What about this?] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: > 1) Aren't there already complete drum kits included in the 'Platinum > 24' CD? If so, can you Convert Load them and use them as is? Yes, on CD 1 there are complete kits in GM lay-out. As an example Convert Load takes 45 minutes to process. It is the CD 2 that contains chromatics sets with several velocity versions and reverb types for each drum instrument. (I confess that in my complaints I was exaggerating, as allways.) > 2) I think the S-760 allows you to load a bunch of samples from a CD > but load the patch and performance information from floppy. /.../ Oh sure, but in the hands of a beginner like me, such astrophysics will have to wait until I grasp the more elemental hands-on knowledge...;-) jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Feb 13 19:18:08 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:18:01 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:17:46 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.84.251]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020214001744.QZPI29236.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:17:44 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c1b4ec$db5be9c0$fb54580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Jussi Piekkala" , , References: Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 [was: What about this?] Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:16:30 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey All, This is finally a topic that is drawing up a lot of interest. Keep in mind that this mail is sent to both the Sgroups and XV5080 groups since we are all from the same family. Convert Loading may be a pain in the ass Jussi, but if you have a Zip Drive or other storage medium, you'd only have to convert load once. Once you do this, the painful load is a thing of the past. I'm loving the reviews that I'm hearing about this (from both mailing lists - S760 and XV5080). I think I might just get this. Think about it, the INTERACTIVE DRUMS and SNARES CD from Ilio is $199. Everyone I know so far has given the sub $100 Wizoo Platinum 24 ACOUSTIC DRUMS CDs a good review. Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Jussi Piekkala To: Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:44 PM Subject: sgroup Platinum_24 [was: What about this?] > On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: > > > 1) Aren't there already complete drum kits included in the 'Platinum > > 24' CD? If so, can you Convert Load them and use them as is? > > Yes, on CD 1 there are complete kits in GM lay-out. As an example > Convert Load takes 45 minutes to process. It is the CD 2 that contains > chromatics sets with several velocity versions and reverb types for each > drum instrument. > > (I confess that in my complaints I was exaggerating, as allways.) > > > 2) I think the S-760 allows you to load a bunch of samples from a CD > > but load the patch and performance information from floppy. /.../ > > Oh sure, but in the hands of a beginner like me, such astrophysics > will have to wait until I grasp the more elemental hands-on > knowledge...;-) > > jp > ___________________________________________________________________________ > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 > http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Feb 13 19:26:50 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-17872>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:26:40 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-17872>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:26:34 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0k7.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.135] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16b9jD-0001PY-00; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3C6B043F.1CE7162E@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:26:39 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jussi Piekkala CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 [was: What about this?] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jussi Piekkala wrote: > Yes, on CD 1 there are complete kits in GM lay-out. As an example > Convert Load takes 45 minutes to process. It is the CD 2 that contains > chromatics sets with several velocity versions and reverb types for each > drum instrument. 45 minutes??!! Wow, I guess I've never tried to load such large files. I have tried to several banks of synths and it did take maybe ten to fifteen minutes; it was REALLY slow. But 45 minutes??!! Wow, I guess you should load up everything every day in the morning as soon as you wake up, while you shave, shower and brush your teeth! Or maybe just leave the samples loaded in your sampler forever. 8-) Seriously, I guess with that kind of performance you really have to get a zip disk or some kind of recordable SCSI storage solution. I still don't have mine but I will one of these days. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Feb 13 19:27:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193726-17872>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:27:12 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17873>; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:26:55 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0k7.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.135] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16b9jd-00037n-00; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:26:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3C6B045A.987ED2E2@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:27:06 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jussi Piekkala , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 [was: What about this?] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jussi Piekkala wrote: > Yes, on CD 1 there are complete kits in GM lay-out. BTW, what's GM layout? Is that the Roland drum kid layout (which is very nice, I think) or is it another standard? Boy, I hate those kits where you have a kick spread over three or four notes, then a snare spread over three or four notes, then one single tom spread chromatically over three or four notes, then a hi-hat, cymbal, etc. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 09:24:51 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:24:43 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:24:32 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1EEOQ950304 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:24:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27873>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 06:17:10 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.2-X An9h) with ESMTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:17:04 +0100 Subject: AW: AW: sgroup Win Image MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 06:17:03 -0500 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6026CE0E1@hati.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AW: sgroup Win Image Thread-Index: AcGz6gRHIyGgrUVzT7ugRvv135ez0wBXvgpA From: "Ullrich Peter" To: CC: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> Would be nice. For this purpose there was only the program W30CD from >> Garbor Picasz from Hungary but I have never tested this program and it >> is not longer on Garbors Website. But I can give it away as he told me >> in an email. But the imiage solution should be nicer. > >How does this work? If it can create Roland-formated CDs what dos it use=20 >for input? A Zip disk as Howard suggests or does it have to be from a=20 >Roland-formatted SCSI hard drive? > >Please let us know more about his program! It uses a harddrive as input - but a zipdrive is also a "harddrive" for the roland samplers... so t is the same... This is the documentation of Garbors program: Here are the required steps: - create a 80MB HD full of your samples (ie. 64 areas) - connect the HD to your PC and with the help of some direct disk access program (like Norton Utilities), put the whole hard disk data into a file on one of your drives - start the project1.exe program - press the LoadHDImg button and select the file containing the HD data - after a couple of seconds your areas will be listed under the sound directory - on the CD-ROM there are groups, they can be used to group ;) areas together - you MUST create at least one group and drag all your sounds onto it of course it is much more practical to create several groups and organize the sounds well - you can add/change groups and change area names using the buttons below the lists - when you are happy with the results, press the SaveCDImg button, select the destination file (if you have at least two HDD-s, select a different from the one containing the original HD data, this might save a couple of minutes) - now you can exit from the program - you need a CD-writer software which can read so called image files and able to create a CD from it use the previously created image file to feed the program - voila, you have just finished your own W30-CD-ROM Gabor Pikacs As I have told before: I haven't tried it yet. But I will get a CD-5 cdrom drive in=20 the next few weeks and could test it... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. KAPSCH AG / TrafficCom Vienna / Austria ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 11:10:31 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:10:22 -0500 Received: from sirppi.helsinki.fi ([128.214.205.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:10:16 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by sirppi.helsinki.fi (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1EGA9l05956 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:10:09 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: sirppi.helsinki.fi: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:10:09 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 In-Reply-To: <3C6B043F.1CE7162E@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Jesse Segovia wrote: > 45 minutes??!! Wow, I guess I've never tried to load such large files. The example timing was measured with the "Jazz kit" on the "Platinum 24". The kit size is 32MB. jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 11:38:50 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:38:40 -0500 Received: from sirppi.helsinki.fi ([128.214.205.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:38:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by sirppi.helsinki.fi (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1EGcW710637 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:38:32 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: sirppi.helsinki.fi: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:38:32 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 In-Reply-To: <3C6B045A.987ED2E2@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Jesse Segovia wrote: > BTW, what's GM layout? Is that the Roland drum kid layout (which is > very nice, I think) or is it another standard? The General Midi (GM) layout for drum kits is more or less the same on most synths, not only Roland. It is the layout where you have the bass drum down to the left on the keyboard, congas in the middle and bells etc. on the right. This is convenient when you want to try different drum kits for the same song. > Boy, I hate those kits where you have a kick spread over three or four > notes, then a snare spread over three or four notes, then one single > tom spread chromatically over three or four notes, then a hi-hat, > cymbal, etc. Well, that is exactly what you get on the CD 2 of the "Platinum 24"! The fine nuances in the make and use of each drum instrument (the very essence of this CD-ROM!) would not fit within the GM layout. Therefore different drum instruments are spread out on the scale, even wider than you describe in your example. Some of these drum instruments have 20 dynamic levels! On the CD 1 with the GM layout the dynamic levels are not so many and the levels can be addressed using velocity. jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 11:50:34 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:50:27 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:50:21 -0500 Received: from smui05.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.91]) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16bP5H-0001q5-00; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:50:11 -0500 Received: by smui05.slb.mindspring.net id LAA0000004697; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:50:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:50:11 -0500 From: To: jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jussi Piekkala wrote: > The General Midi (GM) layout for drum kits is more or less the > same on most synths, not only Roland. Bass on C2, snare on D2, closed hi-hat on F#2, open on A#2, etc.? > Well, that is exactly what you get on the CD 2 of the "Platinum > 24"! The fine nuances in the make and use of each drum instrument (the > very essence of this CD-ROM!) would not fit within the GM layout. I guess in that case you have two choices; either find the best sounds you can and map them yourself to the GM format, or record your sequences with the very wide mapping. I know; the one thing I like the most about a real drum kit is you can really dig into a drum and get very different sounds out of it. Heck, when a drummer does a simple snare roll his two hands sound different; it's not the same exact shot repeated. I've got an Alesis SR-16 drum machine that's supposed to have some kind of human feel feature that mimicks this but I never bothered to figure it out. One of these days I'll sample it and then sell it. 'Anybody interested? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 11:57:57 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:57:50 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:57:39 -0500 Received: from smui05.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.91]) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16bPCM-0005gF-00; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:57:30 -0500 Received: by smui05.slb.mindspring.net id LAA0000023847; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:57:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:57:29 -0500 From: To: Jussi Piekkala Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jussi Piekkala wrote: > The example timing was measured with the "Jazz kit" on the "Platinum 24". The kit size is 32MB. One 32Mb drum kit??!! Woh! this thing much have unbelievably long decay for each and every drum, or does it include all the other percussion samples? BTW, what are the cymbals like? I've only ever heard one really good crash cymbal sample, in the Roland Drums & Cymbals CD. Outside of that, I've never heard a drum machine or a synth or ANY crash sample that sounds natural. Crash cymbals are the very worst thing about my SPD-20 pad. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 12:04:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:04:11 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27873>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:04:01 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.228]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020214170357.JNTC6916.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:03:57 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c1b579$6be31900$e455580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , References: Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:02:43 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1B54F.8209AAC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1B54F.8209AAC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Stop complaining. If one Kit is 32MB, dither it down using the CHANGE = SAMPLE RATE. Cut off some of the decay using the TRUNCATE function. = Change the Bit rate. We can almost cut every single kit in half using = those features. Later, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 11:50 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 > Jussi Piekkala wrote: > > The General Midi (GM) layout for drum kits is more or less the > > same on most synths, not only Roland. >=20 > Bass on C2, snare on D2, closed hi-hat on F#2, open on A#2, etc.? >=20 > > Well, that is exactly what you get on the CD 2 of the "Platinum=20 > > 24"! The fine nuances in the make and use of each drum instrument = (the=20 > > very essence of this CD-ROM!) would not fit within the GM layout. >=20 > I guess in that case you have two choices; either find the best sounds = you can and map them yourself to the GM format, or record your sequences = with the very wide mapping. >=20 > I know; the one thing I like the most about a real drum kit is you can = really dig into a drum and get very different sounds out of it. Heck, = when a drummer does a simple snare roll his two hands sound different; = it's not the same exact shot repeated. >=20 > I've got an Alesis SR-16 drum machine that's supposed to have some = kind of human feel feature that mimicks this but I never bothered to = figure it out. One of these days I'll sample it and then sell it. = 'Anybody interested? >=20 > Jesse >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C1B54F.8209AAC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
Stop complaining. If one Kit is 32MB, = dither it=20 down using the CHANGE SAMPLE RATE. Cut off some of the decay using the = TRUNCATE=20 function. Change the Bit rate. We can almost cut every single kit in = half using=20 those features.
 
Later,
Harold
 
----- Original Message -----
From: <jsegovia@mindspring.com>
To: <jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi= >
Cc: <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 11:50 = AM
Subject: Re: sgroup = Platinum_24

> Jussi Piekkala <jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi= >=20 wrote:
> > The General Midi (GM) layout for drum kits is more = or less=20 the
> > same on most synths, not only Roland.
>
> = Bass on=20 C2, snare on D2, closed hi-hat on F#2, open on A#2, etc.?
> =
> >=20 Well, that is exactly what you get on the CD 2 of the "Platinum
> = >=20 24"! The fine nuances in the make and use of each drum instrument (the =
>=20 > very essence of this CD-ROM!) would not fit within the GM = layout.
>=20
> I guess in that case you have two choices; either find the best = sounds=20 you can and map them yourself to the GM format, or record your sequences = with=20 the very wide mapping.
>
> I know; the one thing I like the = most=20 about a real drum kit is you can really dig into a drum and get very = different=20 sounds out of it.  Heck, when a drummer does a simple snare roll = his two=20 hands sound different; it's not the same exact shot repeated.
> =
>=20 I've got an Alesis SR-16 drum machine that's supposed to have some kind = of human=20 feel feature that mimicks this but I never bothered to figure it = out.  One=20 of these days I'll sample it and then sell it.  'Anybody=20 interested?
>
> Jesse
>
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From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 12:34:04 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:33:57 -0500 Received: from sirppi.helsinki.fi ([128.214.205.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:33:42 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by sirppi.helsinki.fi (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g1EHXca15755 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:33:38 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: sirppi.helsinki.fi: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:33:38 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: Re: sgroup Platinum_24 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: > BTW, what are the cymbals like? I've only ever heard one really good > crash cymbal sample, in the Roland Drums & Cymbals CD. /.../ It is worth to point out that the cymbals are particularily nice on the "Platinum 24". They exhibit the same nuances that Jesse pointed out regarding the sound quality of a live drummer: the difference between a beat with the left hand and the right hand. As an example I really love the little klinging sounds that occurr when the cymbal you just hit swings back and for a short moment gets into contact with the drum stick while you move your hand away towards the edge of the singing metal... It is these nuances you are looking for to get a REAL sound in contrast to a synthetic sound. On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Stop complaining. If one Kit is 32MB, dither it down using the CHANGE > SAMPLE RATE. Cut off some of the decay using the TRUNCATE function. > Change the Bit rate. We can almost cut every single kit in half using > those features. Nooo, that would be like taking the bread off of the butter ;-) Sometimes you just prefer the luxury and prepare your self to pay the price to get that quality. jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 13:56:24 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:56:15 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:56:12 -0500 Received: from smui02.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.25]) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16bR0F-0007xd-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:53:07 -0500 Received: by smui02.slb.mindspring.net id MAA0000017674; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:09:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:09:13 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Question: Hand Recorder and V-Drum Samples Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I was in my local GuitarCenter this last weekend and I again tried out their V-Drum set. Wow, what a nice technology. They sound and feel great. You can get all kinds of natural sounding kits out of these things. First question: one of the things I wanted to do was make a tape recording of some of the best kits; not for sampling, but so that I could take the tape home and try with the drum sounds at my disposal to make similar sounding kits. What kind of tape recorder is out there, cheap and handheld, that I could connect to a synth or drum module (through the headphone out for example) and make a quick tape? Is anybody using anything they particularly like? If it has a mic on it so I could record song ideas or just random thoughts, so much the better. Second: I know I've asked this before but does anybody know anything about V-Drum samples in any format? There's GOT to be somebody somewhere who's sampled a V-Drum kit. If 3rd party sounds companies can sell samples of Roland R-8s and TR-808s, they can certainly sell samples of V-Drums. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 14:13:36 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:13:28 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:13:24 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC581BD41 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:13:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA04476 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:13:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C6C0C4F.000001.31405@statler> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:13:19 -0500 From: blincoln To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Question: Hand Recorder and V-Drum Samples X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk My webmail client isn't quoting messages properly right now, but I've been looking at getting a minidisc recorder for exactly this type of thing. Guitar Center had a spectacular deal advertised for them but it turned out they only had one in stock in the entire country when I called and that one store couldn't locate it. Personally I doubt Roland would look too kindly on samples of the V-Drums. In terms of the 808 it's an actual synth, so people are essentially creating their own sounds each time, but if someone were to just sell a disc with the V-Drums presets I can see Roland flipping out like a ninja. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 14:34:15 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:34:06 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27874>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:34:02 -0500 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.22]) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16bRdi-0000fi-00; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:33:54 -0500 Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id OAA0000002141; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:33:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:33:54 -0500 From: To: blincoln Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Question: Hand Recorder and V-Drum Samples Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk blincoln wrote: > I've been looking at getting a minidisc recorder for exactly this > type of thing. Mmm, minidisc, that sounds expensive. I was hoping there was a small Sony or even Radio Shack micro-recorder with a line-in as well as a built-in mic. But then again, if it's a minidisc recorder, I wonder if I could plug it in to the V-Drum's headphone jack (or one of the independent outs) and get a good enough recording to sample it with my S-760. The V-Drums had several especially nice snares. MAN! they were nice. > Personally I doubt Roland would look too kindly on samples of the > V-Drums. In terms of the 808 it's an actual synth, so people are > essentially creating their own sounds each time, but if someone > were to just sell a disc with the V-Drums presets I can see Roland > flipping out like a ninja. I can see your point. Roland could say it's just like re-sampling a commercial Roland sample CD with the same exact performance and exact patch names and calling it something else. But I can also see the argument I'm sampling a Roland musical instrument with my own equipment and making my own separate commercial product, as long as I don't use any Roland trademarked names. You could even build your own kits. Anyway, too bad. I can't see spending $4,000.00 just to get four really good sounding drum kits on my home recordings. And again, I wasn't very impressed with the cymbals; I'd still want to replace them with the Cymbals & Drums CD cymbals. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 14:44:54 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-21484>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:44:51 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-21484>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:44:48 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3B7BD7A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:44:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA17132 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:44:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C6C13AA.000001.32203@statler> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:44:42 -0500 From: blincoln To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Question: Hand Recorder and V-Drum Samples X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk My webmail client quotes any messages except the ones you send, Jesse =). Minidisc recorders are a *lot* cheaper than they used to be, which is why I've started looking at them. The GC special I mentioned included the portable recorder, stereo mic, and some discs for $199. But a tape recorder is still going to be cheaper of course. In terms of the V-Drums thing, if you just wanted to use the sounds on your own recording, I don't think Roland would even be able to tell, but if you sold a sample CD with the sounds they might get upset. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 14 15:09:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27873>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:09:52 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net (holt.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27873>; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:09:37 -0500 Received: from smui00.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.20]) by holt.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16bSC5-0003G1-00; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:09:25 -0500 Received: by smui00.slb.mindspring.net id PAA0000031451; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:09:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:09:25 -0500 From: To: blincoln Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Question: Hand Recorder and V-Drum Samples Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk blincoln wrote: > My webmail client quotes any messages except the ones you send,Jesse =). That's because it knows better than to try to quote me! 8-) > The GC special I mentioned included > the portable recorder, stereo mic, and some discs for $199. With my personal economics the way they are, $199 is still a little steep for me, even if it would get me excellent sounding V-Drum samples. Did that minidisc player have a SPDIF out? Online, I did find a $100 radio shack micro-recorder that featurs a 'Jack for external mic.' Who knows what that is - I wonder if it would work with the output from your typical musical instrument headphone jack. But then again, I wonder what would happen if I carried my S-760 into the drum section of GuitarCenter early some weekday morning, reminded the salesmen how much money I've spent in GuitarCenter over the last year or so, and ask them if they mind if I sample their V-Drum kit. I'm not greedy; there's just a handful of individual drums I'd want, although I'd have to get each at three or four different velocities. 8-) Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 15 15:16:09 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-29590>; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:16:08 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-29590>; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:16:04 -0500 Received: from grifgraf.demon.co.uk ([194.222.88.198]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16bom0-000JqD-0Y for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 15 Feb 2002 20:16:00 +0000 Message-ID: <3C6D6DC8.ADEF14CC@grifgraf.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:21:37 -0500 From: Pete Reply-To: pete@grifgraf.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Question: Hand Recorder and V-Drum Samples References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > But then again, if it's a minidisc recorder, I wonder if I could plug it in to the V-Drum's headphone jack (or one of the independent outs) and get a good enough recording to sample it with my S-760. The V-Drums had several especially nice snares. MAN! they were nice. Minidisc is totally awesome for this kind of thing. I defy anyone but the most golden-eared people to tell any difference between Minidisc and DAT, and it's a superb format for collecting samples in the field (as they say). Very good dynamic range, and indiscernible noise. I have a Sharp portable; quite elderly but it has mic, line and optical inputs and manual record level. Everybody I've demonstrated it to has been amazed. Pete - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Feb 16 05:12:40 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2629>; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 05:12:35 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-2630>; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 05:12:25 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.115.36]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020216101223.OMXL11755.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:12:23 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c1b6d2$4158a380$2473580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup Pro-Samples Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 05:11:07 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B6A8.57885D00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B6A8.57885D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone, Since we got into this heated discussion about alternative drum sample = CDs (such as Wizoo's Acoustic Drums), I thought I'd ask (again) if = anyone here has tried the Pro-Samples series from East West. Just to = recap, the Pro-Samples series is are the watered down series of more = expensive sample CDs. Think of them of 100-400 MB versions of the 2GB = CDs. Quantum Leap (East-West) has a CD called Guitar & Bass. East-West = released a lite version of this in their pro-samples series called = Pro-Samples Guitar & Bass. Each CD in the series is $49. I've heard = nothing but good reviews about them. All of them are multisamples. They = are in Akai format, but converting those is no problem on my Roland = S760. Of course, I've heard that you Roland XV-5080 heads are having a = lot of problems converting your Akai samples in your unit. Anyway, does anyone own any of them (the Pro-Samples)? Have any of you = had the chance to try them in a production environment? Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B6A8.57885D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey everyone,
 
Since we got into this heated = discussion about=20 alternative drum sample CDs (such as Wizoo's Acoustic Drums), I thought = I'd ask=20 (again) if anyone here has tried the Pro-Samples series from East West. = Just to=20 recap, the Pro-Samples series is are the watered down series of more = expensive=20 sample CDs. Think of them of 100-400 MB versions of the 2GB CDs. Quantum = Leap=20 (East-West) has a CD called Guitar & Bass. East-West released a lite = version=20 of this in their pro-samples series called Pro-Samples Guitar & = Bass. Each=20 CD in the series is $49. I've heard nothing but good reviews about them. = All of=20 them are multisamples. They are in Akai format, but converting those is = no=20 problem on my Roland S760. Of course, I've heard that you Roland XV-5080 = heads=20 are having a lot of problems converting your Akai samples in your=20 unit.
 
Anyway, does anyone own any of them = (the=20 Pro-Samples)? Have any of you had the chance to try  them in a = production=20 environment?
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B6A8.57885D00-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Feb 16 20:11:33 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2629>; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:11:26 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-2629>; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:11:16 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.81.224]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020217011113.IBOH11755.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:11:13 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c1b74f$cf007e60$e051580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup Anyone into this? Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:09:52 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1B725.E5164740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1B725.E5164740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everyone, First of all, let me say that my related gear is my Roland XP60 and = Roland S760. I'm am heavily into Prince, Michael Jackson, The Time and = all of the related music from the disco funk/synth pop era. I DO NOT = sample in the loop sense. I only use my sampler for multisamples (i.e. = getting a piano that is a lot better sounding than the one in my XP60). = Anyone into this kind of music? I'm talking like Early Madonna, Teena = Marie, Rick James, Sheila E and even the music scene of the late 80s = (i.e. Sheena Easton, Vanessa Williams, Karyn White, etc). I produce and = write this kind of music (yes I compose and am a musician) with an = updated feel. I'm 22. Anyone into this? Later, Harold Everton, Jr. www.evertonrecords.com ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1B725.E5164740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Everyone,
 
First of all, let me say that my = related gear is my=20 Roland XP60 and Roland S760. I'm am heavily into Prince, Michael = Jackson, The=20 Time and all of the related music from the disco funk/synth pop era. I = DO NOT=20 sample in the loop sense. I only use my sampler for multisamples (i.e. = getting a=20 piano that is a lot better sounding than the one in my XP60). Anyone = into this=20 kind of music? I'm talking like Early Madonna, Teena Marie, Rick James, = Sheila E=20 and even the music scene of the late 80s (i.e. Sheena Easton, Vanessa = Williams,=20 Karyn White, etc). I produce and write this kind of music (yes I compose = and am=20 a musician) with an updated feel. I'm 22. Anyone into this?
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
www.evertonrecords.com<= /DIV>
 
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C1B725.E5164740-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Feb 16 20:31:49 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2629>; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:31:41 -0500 Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.212]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-2629>; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:31:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 26855 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2002 01:31:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 17 Feb 2002 01:31:28 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001401c1b74f$cf007e60$e051580c@epu1> References: <001401c1b74f$cf007e60$e051580c@epu1> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:31:06 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Anyone into this? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Hey Everyone, > >First of all, let me say that my related gear is my Roland XP60 and >Roland S760. I'm am heavily into Prince, Michael Jackson, The Time >and all of the related music from the disco funk/synth pop era. I DO >NOT sample in the loop sense. I only use my sampler for multisamples >(i.e. getting a piano that is a lot better sounding than the one in >my XP60). Anyone into this kind of music? I'm talking like Early >Madonna, Teena Marie, Rick James, Sheila E and even the music scene >of the late 80s (i.e. Sheena Easton, Vanessa Williams, Karyn White, >etc). I produce and write this kind of music (yes I compose and am a >musician) with an updated feel. I'm 22. Anyone into this? I LOVE the 80's electro sound. Prince is cool, Michael J has quite a few tracks that are fat. Electro has made a bit of a resurgence lately, I'm totally into the new electro scene. A few bands to check out would be Fischerspooner, 8 Bit Rockers, Anthony Rother, all the stuff on the Gigolo label, DMX Krew, Dopplereffekt, the Suction label, etc... -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 18 07:45:42 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-5177>; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:45:37 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-5177>; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:45:22 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.83.17]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020218124517.NECG557.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 12:45:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c1b879$ecfde3a0$1153580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup Sorry Everyone Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 07:43:53 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B850.031B4DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B850.031B4DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I apologize for when I said that Roland's RHYTHM SECTION INSTRUMENTS CD = sucks. It really doesn't, but it's just that that particular Sample CD = is application specific. The sounds are dated. I love the music of the = 80s. When I need to do a track that is reminiscent of the time period, = referring to the RSI Vol 1 CD is perfect. When it comes to great = sounding acoustic drums however, the Roland SRX1 Dynamic Drum Board gets = the cigar.=20 However, the Guitars and Basses on the RSI Vol. 1 do suck big time. My = Roland SRJV10 Bass & Drums board get the ticket in that pair up. There = are some nice synth basses on the RSI CD. Also, the congas and timblaes = (and I guess the cowbells) are nice on the RSI CD Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1B850.031B4DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I apologize for when I said that = Roland's RHYTHM=20 SECTION INSTRUMENTS CD sucks. It really doesn't, but it's just that that = particular Sample CD is application specific. The sounds are dated. I = love the=20 music of the 80s. When I need to do a track that is reminiscent of the = time=20 period, referring to the RSI Vol 1 CD is perfect. When it comes to great = sounding acoustic drums however, the Roland SRX1 Dynamic Drum Board gets = the=20 cigar.
 
However, the Guitars and Basses on the = RSI Vol. 1=20 do suck big time. My Roland SRJV10 Bass & Drums board get the ticket = in that=20 pair up. There are some nice synth basses on the RSI CD. Also, the = congas and=20 timblaes (and I guess the cowbells) are nice on the RSI CD
 
Later,
Harold
 
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From owner-sgroup Mon Feb 18 11:45:07 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-5177>; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:44:58 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-5177>; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:44:48 -0500 Received: from user-2ive2o1.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.11.1] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16cqu6-0006ip-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:44:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3C712F8B.1873D706@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:44:59 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Fwd: Sonic Implants Newsletter February 2002 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FBA344167967449AAC5EA321" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FBA344167967449AAC5EA321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This one isn't as big as the last one I forwarded to the group. More sample info. Jesse --------------FBA344167967449AAC5EA321 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from sonic2.sonicnetworkinc.com ([208.199.151.220]) by farley.mail.mindspring.net (Earthlink Mail Service) with ESMTP id u6mk8u.47t.37kbi1c for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from sonicnetworkinc.com [208.199.151.220] by sonic2.sonicnetworkinc.com (SMTPD32-7.00) id A0961358004E; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:52:22 -0600 To: jsegovia@mindspring.com From: news@sonicimplants.com Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:52:25 -0600 Subject: Sonic Implants Newsletter February 2002 X-Mailer: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <200202132352828.SM01360@sonicnetworkinc.com> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Greetings Sonic Implantees. Some cool studio news… 1. NEW PRODUCT! – Silk Road: Middle Eastern Instruments Giga: http://www.sonicimplants.com/E_16.asp?L=1 Kurzweil: http://www.sonicimplants.com/E_16.asp?L=2 2. NAMM SALE – Strat & Fuzz Guitars CD Blowout! http://www.sonicimplants.com/E_16.asp?L=8 3. NEW AUDIGY DRIVERS 4. NAMM SHOW NEWS 5. SYMPHONIC STRINGS PROJECT NEW SOUNDS! - Silk Road Middle Eastern Instruments The Silk Road is the most well-known trading route of ancient Chinese civilization. The 7000 mile route spanned China, Central Asia, Northern India, and the Parthian and Roman Empires. The popular trade route blended culture, music, art and religion for centuries. Performed by middle eastern musicians, Sonic Implants Silk Road CD captures authentic melodic and percussion instruments from this region. CD also includes 9 page documentation PLUS percussion loops and melodic improvisations played by the recording musicians. Over 50 unusual Melodic & Percussion Instruments! Check them out here: Giga: http://www.sonicimplants.com/E_16.asp?L=1 Kurzweil: http://www.sonicimplants.com/E_16.asp?L=2 SoundFont: Being programmed now! Please check back. NAMM SALE! – Strat & Fuzz Guitars CD Blowout The response to our new Fender Strat and Creamy Fuzz Guitars download products has been incredible! (Yes, we'll do all new guitars like this.) So we burned a huge pile of CD versions to sell at this year’s NAMM show and we’ve got a few left over. WHILE SUPPLIES LAST, we’re letting these go for 10% off the download price, PLUS you get them on a CD. (Giga and Soundfont only) Strat n Fuzz Guitar CD Sale!: http://www.sonicimplants.com/E_16.asp?L=8 NEW AUDIGY DRIVERS Those of you with the new Audigy soundcard should go pick up Creative’s new drivers. They fix at least 3 very important soundfont bugs and there’s no cost for the upgrade. Users having trouble opening the 24Meg GM Wavetable, playing the Stereo Piano and opening BlueJay Drums, these new drivers will fix all these bugs. Get them here: http://www.creativelabs.com NAMM NEWS! Great NAMM show this year! Not only did we have our same Sonic Implants booth in Hall A, but we also had a very cool station at the Tascam booth as well. Covering all this turf was a little crazy but we managed to pull it off and still get to the evening parties. The Stars Visiting Sonic Implants booth this year were some very heavy producers, composers and musicians including Roger Joseph Manning Jr. (keyboard player for Beck, working with Air, JellyFish), Jeff Rona –Hollywood film composer, Hans Zimmer – Hollywood film composer, Mark Mancina – Hollywood film composer, Jim Claytor –works with Mariah Carey & Aretha Franklin, and several other less well known but just as cool musicians. News from the show floor Tascam as you know purchased NemeSys, makers of Gigasampler, and they had a big presence at the show. We were happy to see Tascam fully supporting the Giga platform and doing a great job of supporting Sonic Implants, as official Tascam developers, as well. Although we’re sworn to secrecy on specifics, hang on to your Gigasampler platform because it’s only going to get better. Steinberg’s new HALION Synth was gaining lots of attention at the show. A definite competitor for Gigasampler, this software synth is the first 24 bit sample playback device we know of. We haven’t gotten our hands fully on this synth just yet, but we’ll be keeping a close eye on it for a good Sonic Implants VST solution. Stay tuned on this one. Kurzweil fans will be happy to know Kurzweil engineers aren’t letting the soft-synth revolution get them down. They’re building effects processors instead! True to form, their new KSP8 digital effects processor is amazing. Great reverb, unbelievably programmable. Our good friends over there in fact have a synthesizer band that consists of 3 guys with a pile of analog synths and one KSP8. You cannot believe the sounds these guys make! Definitely a product worth checking out if you’re ready for some great reverb and crazy new timbres. But the biggest, baddest, coolest thing at the show by far… was the new Sonic Implants Symphonic String Collection. It drew some very ‘big ears’ into our booth, all of whome are very psyched about what they heard. Want to know more? Read on. SYMPHONIC STRING COLLECTION Recorded by 2001 Emmy award engineer Antonio Oliart and RIAA award engineer John Bono, Sonic Implants Symphonic String Collection is a large CD-ROM or DVD Box Set of the most comprehensive, beautiful and playable ensemble string sounds available. Sections include 1st Violins, 2nd Violins, Violas, Cellos and Basses. Articulations include Long Tones Detache, Long Tones Expressivo, Bowed Ordinaire & Sul Ponticello Tremolos, Bowed Half & Whole Step Trills, Con Sordino (Mutes), Staccato Martele and Marcato, Spiccato, Tight & Loose Pizzicato, Pizzicato Harmonics, Bowed Natural & Artificial Harmonics, Tight & Loose Col Legno, Sound Effects and Glissandi. Up to 4 velocity samples and down & up bows included in each articulation. Product Release April 2002 in Gigasampler format, other formats to follow. More information is available via a PDF download at: http://www.sonicimplants.com/E_16.asp?L=6 Keep makin' music friends! Your Sonic Implants Team ***** We do not share our email list. Your privacy is respected. 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From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 19 12:52:25 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26371>; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:52:19 -0500 Received: from siaag1ad.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26371>; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:52:12 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id MAA14194 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:52:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:51:34 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup zzounds To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200202191251_MC3-F29A-5022@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Actual Roland sample CDs are on sale at zzounds.com 3 or 4 of em are at $50. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 19 13:59:33 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26371>; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:59:25 -0500 Received: from siaag2ae.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.135]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26371>; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:59:22 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2ae.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id NAA21125 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:59:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:58:57 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup zzounds To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200202191359_MC3-F292-5DE1@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Roland LCDC01 S Series Jazz Vol. 1 CD-ROM Only $49.95 -- 77% Off! *** HURRY - ONLY ONE LEFT *** http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDC01&a=3Dem021802a57 Roland LCDP02 S Series Guitar and Bass Vol. 1 CD-ROM = Only $49.95 -- 74% Off! http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDP02&a=3Dem021802a58 Roland LCDP07 S Series Super Sax Vol. 1 CD-ROM Only $49.95 -- 74% Off! http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDP07&a=3Dem021802a59 Roland LCDP12 S Series Solo Brass Vol. 1 CD-ROM Only $49.95 -- 74% Off! http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDP12&a=3Dem021802a60 Roland LCDX01 Rhythm Section Instruments Sample Disc (NFS) Only $119.95 -- 38% Off! *** HURRY - ONLY ONE LEFT *** http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDX01NFS&a=3Dem021802a61 Roland LCDX04 Strings and Orchestral Persussion Sample Disc (2 Disc Set) = (NFS) Only $159.95 -- 46% Off! *** HURRY - ONLY ONE LEFT *** http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.ROLLCDX04NFS&a=3Dem021802a62 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 22 10:21:06 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3706>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:21:00 -0500 Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.205]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3706>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:20:57 -0500 Received: (qmail 17942 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2002 15:20:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO REMUS) ([64.81.118.177]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Feb 2002 15:20:48 -0000 From: "john sikes johnson" To: Subject: sgroup question about convert loading Akai S1000 sample disks Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:18:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk recently i have had the chance to acquire some akai cd's such as the prosonus orchestral disk. my question for you s760 users out there is this.... if i convert load the sounds on this disk into my roland, will i be able to load actual performances where it will load each individual sound to each key (like Roland disks) or will it be something i will be required to perform manually for each sample? if i have to go through the manual process, it might not be worth the trouble.... what do you think? sikes johnson - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Feb 22 10:36:46 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3705>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:36:38 -0500 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3705>; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:36:35 -0500 Received: from smui01.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.21]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16eHkL-0001Kv-00; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:36:29 -0500 Received: by smui01.slb.mindspring.net id KAA0000000662; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:36:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:36:29 -0500 From: To: john sikes johnson , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup question about convert loading Akai S1000 sample disks Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In my experience, you get all the performances and all the key mapping. The one thing I noticed most recently with an Akai CD called MegaSynths is that the expression lever didn't work at all, although pitch bend did. It may just be the expression lever wasn't mapped to anything in these patches but I find it hard to believe they didn't use it at all. I'll have to check my other Akai CDs to see if this is the case. Jesse john sikes johnson wrote: > if i convert load the sounds on this disk into my roland, will i be > able to load actual performances where it will load each individual sound to > each key (like Roland disks) or will it be something i will be required to > perform manually for each sample? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 26 13:59:12 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-14064>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:59:07 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14064>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:58:56 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id LAA21817; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma021805; Tue, 26 Feb 02 11:07:56 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1QIvto56486 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:57:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net ([209.240.198.119]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14064>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:49:37 -0500 Received: from storefull-2298.public.lawson.webtv.net (storefull-2298.public.lawson.webtv.net [209.240.212.218]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id C974C9F4 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-2298.public.lawson.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id JAA07989; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:49:29 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ4Y3PhpC2fnEfKvoKilbiZHzMThwIUMgjngBmXhW1abb6LYrlVMUfEN3Q= From: golfman6@webtv.net (Jim Lott) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 12:49:29 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup roland cds Message-ID: <23642-3C7BCAA9-2957@storefull-2298.public.lawson.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi I'm in need of roland cds I have 750 &760 p;ease advise if can help Thanks - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 26 14:19:35 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-14063>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:19:25 -0500 Received: from hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14063>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:19:15 -0500 Received: from smui05.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.91]) by hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16fn4T-00059b-02; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:15:29 -0500 Received: by smui05.slb.mindspring.net id OAA0000024921; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:08:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:08:38 -0500 From: To: Jim Lott Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup roland cds Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 208.204.155.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Go to this web site: http://www.westlamusic.com/wlam/frames.htm Where it says "Check out these HUGE SAVINGS on CD-ROM Sound Libraries from Roland and Kurzweil," click on the word 'Roland.' You'll need to call them to see what they have in stock - they probably don't have every CD listed there. Someone recently posted a link to another online store that has Roland CDs for sale - the price was higher but they may have a better selection. 'Anyone remember what that link was? Jesse Jim Lott wrote: > Hi I'm in need of roland cds I have 750 &760 p;ease advise if can helpThanks - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 26 14:51:31 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-14064>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:51:21 -0500 Received: from mail.infochan.com ([208.52.68.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14064>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:51:15 -0500 Received: from [208.138.27.66] by mail.infochan.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:47:07 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:51:47 -0500 To: , Jim Lott From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup roland cds Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 2:08 pm -0500 26/2/2002, wrote: >Go to this web site: > >http://www.westlamusic.com/wlam/frames.htm > >Where it says "Check out these HUGE SAVINGS on CD-ROM Sound >Libraries from Roland and Kurzweil," click on the word 'Roland.' >You'll need to call them to see what they have in stock - they >probably don't have every CD listed there. > >Someone recently posted a link to another online store that has >Roland CDs for sale - the price was higher but they may have a >better selection. 'Anyone remember what that link was? > >Jesse > www.zzounds.com rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Feb 26 17:04:55 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-14063>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:04:49 -0500 Received: from mail12.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.212]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14063>; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:04:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 10628 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2002 22:04:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO REMUS) ([64.81.118.177]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Feb 2002 22:04:40 -0000 From: "john sikes johnson" To: "ROLAND S Group" Subject: sgroup roland cd's Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:01:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk if i were yall and wanted the original library, i'd check with westlamusic. they are still sporting them for 29 dollars a pop. there's another outfit out of florida that is selling them to and puts them up on ebay but he wants twice as much and is running out. touch base with west la music and ask for Casey Kim. she'll hook you up. they still have quite a few different disks..... sikes - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 28 12:38:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-29133>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:38:19 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-29132>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:38:04 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id JAA26635; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 09:48:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.141) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma026632; Thu, 28 Feb 02 09:47:50 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g1SHblt40052 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:37:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net ([209.240.198.119]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-29133>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:24:39 -0500 Received: from storefull-2297.public.lawson.webtv.net (storefull-2297.public.lawson.webtv.net [209.240.212.217]) by mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 95DBA881 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-2297.public.lawson.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id HAA21912; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:24:33 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRPOpoJ5QH81ezyZeBpGumIjKVAWwIVALktIAXCRW0rYVGGHryOSORMbG/w From: golfman6@webtv.net (Jim Lott) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:24:33 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup RGB cable Message-ID: <3748-3C7E4BB1-1196@storefull-2297.public.lawson.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Does anyone know where I can get a Rgb video cable for 760? Thanks - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 28 12:55:40 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-29132>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:55:32 -0500 Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.105]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29132>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:55:29 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 6.4a.74fb046 (4159) for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:55:19 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <4a.74fb046.29afc907@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:55:19 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup RGB cable To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Redman Cable in Tennessee. I cannot find their info. Maybe search yellow/white pages on the net. Dave >>Does anyone know where I can get a Rgb video cable for 760? Thanks<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 28 13:26:21 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-29133>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:26:18 -0500 Received: from mail.infochan.com ([208.52.68.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-29133>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:26:03 -0500 Received: from [208.138.27.116] by mail.infochan.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70591U7000L700S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:21:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4a.74fb046.29afc907@aol.com> References: <4a.74fb046.29afc907@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 13:26:24 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup RGB cable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 12:55 pm -0500 28/2/2002, DAJA300@aol.com wrote: >Redman Cable in Tennessee. I cannot find their info. Maybe search >yellow/white pages on the net. > >Dave > > >>Does anyone know where I can get a Rgb video cable for 760? Thanks<< > http://www.redcab.com/ or if you are feeling really adventurous, http://www.hardwarebook.net/connector/index.html MIGHT have some useful information. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 28 17:15:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-29132>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:15:44 -0500 Received: from siaag1aa.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-29133>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:15:37 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1aa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id RAA27943 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:15:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:15:14 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup RGB cable To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200202281715_MC3-F3E1-F888@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Redman Cable in Tennessee. I cannot find their info. Maybe search >yellow/white pages on the net. It think it's RedmOn. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 28 22:30:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-29132>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:30:53 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-29133>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:30:39 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.97.194]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020301033035.WWOJ28073.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 03:30:35 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c1c0d1$313158e0$c261580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , Subject: sgroup So what the deal with Windows? Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:28:42 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1C0A7.473658E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1C0A7.473658E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everyone, I've been hanging around at www.synthworld.com or a while and the task = of trying to get Windows to recognize the S760 via SCSI has come up time = and time again. Some people speculate that it is just not possible to = communicate with the S760 via Windows. Roland claims that SoundForge XP = on the other hand will communicate (or is the only program that Windows = can use to communicate) with the Roland S760 via SCSI. I was thinking = about getting an SCSI card just for this somewhere down the line. Does anyone know if you could use a Roland S760 with a Windows (98)? Can = we do sample transfers using SCSI in Windows? Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1C0A7.473658E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Everyone,
 
I've been hanging around at www.synthworld.com or a while and = the task=20 of trying to get Windows to recognize the S760 via SCSI has come up time = and=20 time again. Some people speculate that it is just not possible to = communicate=20 with the S760 via Windows. Roland claims that SoundForge XP on the other = hand=20 will communicate (or is the only program that Windows can use to = communicate)=20 with the Roland S760 via SCSI. I was thinking about getting an SCSI card = just=20 for this somewhere down the line.
 
Does anyone know if you could use a = Roland S760=20 with a Windows (98)? Can we do sample transfers using SCSI in=20 Windows?
 
Thanks,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1C0A7.473658E0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 28 23:34:51 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-29132>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:34:45 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-29132>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:34:35 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.228]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020301043430.ZDLE11747.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 04:34:30 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c1c0da$1f2b00c0$e452580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: , References: <000a01c1c0d1$313158e0$c261580c@epu1> <000c01c1c0d9$5bc5a400$b000a8c0@bc.hsia.telus.net> Subject: sgroup Re: [Roland-XV-5080] So what the deal with Windows? Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:32:37 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1C0B0.34F47E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1C0B0.34F47E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, Thanks David Green. A lot of people have been telling me to trash the = Roland S760 for a Roland XV5080 or an Emu E4/5xx for a long time. Lack = of support is a major thing, even though I like the Roland brand name. = Since I bought all of the accessories (CD-ROM, Zip, Roland CDs), I think = I'll hang on to it for a while. It's just a shame that there isn't much = support. The Akai Sample compatibility is what will keep me hanging on = to this unit for a while. To be honest, I've had the sampler for near eight months now and have = yet to use it in a major production for the simple reason that I have = little for it to do (with a lack of useable CD-ROMs that fit my likings) = and it doesn't integrate well just as yet. I love Roland, so I'll keep living it up for a while. Thanks, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David R. Green=20 To: Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [Roland-XV-5080] So what the deal with Windows? Hi, With appropriate software and drivers, it is most likely possible to = some extent, however no one has sat down to take on this task, and most = S-760 owners wouldn't be willing to pay a reasonable price to obtain a = vertical-market application such as this. Most musicians figure that = the product manufacturer should include (ie: bundle at no extra cost) = full implementation multi-platform software for each product. The truth = is that this type of development cost a large amount of money, and that = cost has to be passed on somewhere. David dgreen@lilchips.com ------------------------------------------------------- Li'l Chips Systems - BC Canada Email: info@lilchips.com Web: http://www.lilchips.com * Consulting * Audio * Video * Graphics * Internet * ------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Harold Everton, Jr.=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca ; Roland-XV-5080@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: [Roland-XV-5080] So what the deal with Windows? Hey Everyone, I've been hanging around at www.synthworld.com or a while and the = task of trying to get Windows to recognize the S760 via SCSI has come up = time and time again. Some people speculate that it is just not possible = to communicate with the S760 via Windows. Roland claims that SoundForge = XP on the other hand will communicate (or is the only program that = Windows can use to communicate) with the Roland S760 via SCSI. I was = thinking about getting an SCSI card just for this somewhere down the = line. Does anyone know if you could use a Roland S760 with a Windows (98)? = Can we do sample transfers using SCSI in Windows? Thanks, Harold [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 ADVERTISEMENT =20 =20 =20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: XV5080-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. = [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor=20 ADVERTISEMENT =20 =20 =20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: XV5080-unsubscribe@egroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1C0B0.34F47E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
Thanks David Green. A lot of people = have been=20 telling me to trash the Roland S760 for a Roland XV5080 or an Emu E4/5xx = for a=20 long time. Lack of support is a major thing, even though I like the = Roland brand=20 name. Since I bought all of the accessories (CD-ROM, Zip, Roland CDs), I = think=20 I'll hang on to it for a while. It's just a shame that there isn't much = support.=20 The Akai Sample compatibility is what will keep me hanging on to this = unit for a=20 while.
 
To be honest, I've had the sampler for = near eight=20 months now and have yet to use it in a major production for the simple = reason=20 that I have little for it to do (with a lack of useable CD-ROMs that fit = my=20 likings) and it doesn't integrate well just as yet.
 
I love Roland, so I'll keep living it = up for a=20 while.
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David R.=20 Green
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, = 2002 11:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Roland-XV-5080] = So what the=20 deal with Windows?

Hi,

With appropriate software and drivers, = it is=20 most likely possible to some extent, however no one has sat down to = take on=20 this task, and most S-760 owners wouldn't be willing to pay a = reasonable price=20 to obtain a vertical-market application such as this.  Most = musicians=20 figure that the product manufacturer should include (ie: bundle at no = extra=20 cost) full implementation multi-platform software for each = product.  The=20 truth is that this type of development cost a large amount of money, = and that=20 cost has to be passed on=20 = somewhere.

David
dgreen@lilchips.com

-------------------= ------------------------------------
Li'l=20 Chips Systems - BC Canada

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  Hey = Everyone,

  I've=20 been hanging around at www.synthworld.com or a while and the task of = trying to=20 get Windows to recognize the S760 via SCSI has come up time and time = again.=20 Some people speculate that it is just not possible to communicate with = the=20 S760 via Windows. Roland claims that SoundForge XP on the other hand = will=20 communicate (or is the only program that Windows can use to = communicate) with=20 the Roland S760 via SCSI. I was thinking about getting an SCSI card = just for=20 this somewhere down the line.

  Does anyone know if you = could use=20 a Roland S760 with a Windows (98)? Can we do sample transfers using = SCSI in=20 Windows?

  Thanks,
  Harold


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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C1C0B0.34F47E60-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Feb 28 23:45:39 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-29133>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:45:33 -0500 Received: from siaag2ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.132]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-29133>; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:45:23 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id XAA27045 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:45:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:45:04 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup So what the deal with Windows? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200202282345_MC3-F3F1-EA9D@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >Does anyone know if you could use a Roland S760 with a Windows (98)? Ca= n we >do sample transfers using SCSI in Windows? Win 98 with an s760 works with SMS thru midi, albiet very slowly. Wavelab works for me. Soundforge did not and I have no idea why as it should.. I have never tried SCSI, but have been told it will not work. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.