From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 2 11:58:56 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-10019>; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:58:47 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-10019>; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:58:36 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id JAA22987; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma022980; Wed, 2 Jan 02 09:07:37 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g02GwEc64116 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 11:58:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-10067>; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:16:42 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-48-247.tnt7.me2.uunet.de [149.225.48.247]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id TAA17371 for ; Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:16:34 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C31F955.CAC70916@cityweb.de> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:00:54 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup A-80, was:Strange noise from the W-30 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: > Besides the problems you mentioned, what do you think of your A-80? One of these days I think I'll pick up an 88 key weighted keyboard controller for my sampler and synth modules, and I've seen them on ebay and in my local want ads for around $600 US. Is this a good price and given today's new technology and prices, is this still a good unit? I bought it because it's one of the rare keyboards with polyphonic aftertouch. Regarding MIDI, it's not quite up to date. It can't send the newer MIDI thingies like Bank Select, or RPN/NRPN. But since the S-760 doesn't understand these, it doesn't matter too much. It has only four zones, I think most newer master keyboards have more. Although it has many buttons and a big display, the handling is a IMHO a little weird. It's a very heavy unit. Here's a site (I hope it's still up) with more information: http://personal.inet.fi/private/matador/se_roland_a-80.html Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 2 12:07:28 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-10018>; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:07:20 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-10018>; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:07:17 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3C2BD83 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA03984 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 09:07:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C333E3A.000001.32465@statler> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 12:07:06 -0500 From: blincoln To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup A-80, was:Strange noise from the W-30 X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ingo Debus wrote: > I bought it because it's one of the rare keyboards with > polyphonic aftertouch. Yeah, that's something you don't miss until it's gone =). I got used to it on my SQ80 and always have a bit of "why isn't this keyboard responding right?" when I use a different controller. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 8 07:37:55 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19349>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:37:48 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.50]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19349>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:37:45 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.114.207]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020108123740.STTS15547.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:37:40 +0000 Message-ID: <004801c1983f$f43bb5c0$cf72580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Sample Library Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:28:17 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C19816.0A8B7A60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C19816.0A8B7A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, This list has been up and has went through active and inactive periods. = I've went out and bought some Akai sample CDs and still feel as if we = don't have enough resources out there. Anyone think about starting some = kind of FTP library or other online sample holding? Later, The Infamous Epu. :D ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C19816.0A8B7A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
This list has been up and has went = through active=20 and inactive periods. I've went out and bought some Akai sample CDs and = still=20 feel as if we don't have enough resources out there. Anyone think about = starting=20 some kind of FTP library or other online sample holding?
 
Later,
The Infamous Epu. = :D
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From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 8 07:50:30 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19350>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:50:19 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19350>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:50:13 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16Nvhc-000BGp-0Y for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:50:05 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 07:49:47 -0500 Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick To: Subject: Re: sgroup Sample Library References: <004801c1983f$f43bb5c0$cf72580c@epu1> In-Reply-To: <004801c1983f$f43bb5c0$cf72580c@epu1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message <004801c1983f$f43bb5c0$cf72580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. writes > Hey All, >   > This list has been up and has went through active and inactive > periods. I've went out and bought some Akai sample CDs and still > feel as if we don't have enough resources out there. Anyone think > about starting some kind of FTP library or other online sample > holding? Isn't there already an SGroup sample library holding the Roland samples? Depending on the library you have, I'd have thought that they were copyright anyway, I'm sure that if we wanted to share our own samples, we could use the SGroup resource site for them - doesn't appear to have come up recently. If you think the amount of online freebies is small for the S-series samplers, you should own a Korg Trinity. There are about 5 'free' PCGs for that circulating online :( Richard -- Richard Kilpatrick, long haired prophet of doom. |\ _,,,---,,_ Musical suicide - www.mp3.com/RichardKilpatrick /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, Work: Icon Publications, Group Sales Manager |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 8 09:18:09 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19350>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:18:01 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19350>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:17:55 -0500 Received: from user-2ive37e.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.12.238] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Nx4T-0007iH-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 09:17:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3C3AFF3B.A1C527B1@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:16:27 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Kilpatrick , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Sample Library References: <004801c1983f$f43bb5c0$cf72580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard Kilpatrick wrote: > If you think the amount of online freebies is small for the S-series > samplers, you should own a Korg Trinity. There are about 5 'free' PCGs > for that circulating online :( Sorry, but what's a PCG? And how do we (can we?) make one for S-700 samplers? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 8 09:20:51 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19350>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:20:40 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19350>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:20:34 -0500 Received: from user-2ive37e.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.12.238] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Nx73-0006BN-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 09:20:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3C3AFFDC.F123E320@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 09:19:08 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Sample Library References: <004801c1983f$f43bb5c0$cf72580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Which Akai CDs did you buy, and what do you think of them? How well do they work with your S-760? Did anybody go up on ebay and check out the series of synth sample CDs in Akai format for super cheap (last I checked they were about $7.00 each)? I've been too busy to review the sample CDs I bought some time ago but I will as soon as I get time. Jesse > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > Hey All, > > This list has been up and has went through active and inactive > periods. I've went out and bought some Akai sample CDs and still feel > as if we don't have enough resources out there. Anyone think about > starting some kind of FTP library or other online sample holding? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 8 16:02:19 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19350>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:02:14 -0500 Received: from vesuri.Helsinki.FI (vesuri.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19350>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:02:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by vesuri.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g08L1vm13578 for ; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 23:01:58 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: vesuri.Helsinki.FI: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:01:56 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: sgroup Sample converter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Have you seen the review regarding CHICKEN SYSTEMS TRANSLATOR in January issue of Sound On Sound? Do you guys have any experience with this utility? It seems to be a very ambitious utility at an affordable price. As a S760 user you note that this conversion utility (only for PC) not only converts to and from the Roland format among many other formats. Further more it can also read, write and format Roland-formatted floppy disks. The review in Sound On Sound (www.sospubs.co.uk) is for subscribers only :-(, but a resume of it is available at www.timespace.com, who also sells the program in Europe. You find the manufactur's website at www.chickensys.com. jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 8 17:06:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19349>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:06:11 -0500 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19349>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:06:07 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1fu.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.254] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16O4Nb-0008UT-00; Tue, 08 Jan 2002 17:06:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3C3B6CEE.21E35DD7@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 17:04:30 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jussi Piekkala , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Sample converter References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jussi Piekkala wrote: > [CHICKEN SYSTEMS TRANSLATOR] seems to be a very ambitious utility at an affordable price. As > a S760 user you note that this conversion utility (only for PC) not only > converts to and from the Roland format among many other formats. Further > more it can also read, write and format Roland-formatted floppy disks. Is this true? I've known Translator reads Roland format for a long time but I wasn't sure it already wrote to Roland. Since, in my experience, the S-760 does such a good job directly convert-loading Akai sample CDs I'd only be interested in using Translator to convert wav. files to Roland format, but last I checked it couldn't do this. > The review in Sound On Sound (www.sospubs.co.uk) is for > subscribers only :-(, but a resume of it is available at > www.timespace.com, who also sells the program in Europe. You find the > manufactur's website at www.chickensys.com. Thanks a lot for the heads-up. Is the review on timespace.com complete? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 8 19:46:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19349>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:46:30 -0500 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.111]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19349>; Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:46:24 -0500 Received: from host62-7-94-119.btinternet.com ([62.7.94.119] helo=webpc) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16O6sl-00075l-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 00:46:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c198a7$b281dca0$775e073e@webpc> From: "TonyB" To: Subject: sgroup Hi. Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 19:50:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C198A7.97123DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C198A7.97123DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. This is my first post. I have owned an S750 since it was first released. Still working beautifully. I could never get Wavelab to transfer my PC wav files reliably. As I do a bit of programming, I designed a utility that would enable me = to send WAV files from my PC, over Midi, to the S750. What it does in brief.. 1/ Sends Wav files to S750. 2/ Gets audio files from S750, and saves as Wav on the PC.(Mono only for = now.. can be combined to stereo in WLab etc.) 3/ Can send stereo files. (Midi dump is Mono only, so the wav is = automatically split to 2 mono wavs, then both get sent, and the partial = is created in the S750 with the soundfiles ready panned.) 4/ Loops (forward only) in the Wav file are kept in the S750 5/ Loops (forward only) in the S750 are kept in the Wav file. 6/ Can automatically create partials for all samples n the S750. 7/ You can drag and drop many wavs at once, and the prog will attempt to = send them all. 8/ It goes very slowly.. thanks to the speed of midi.. and the size of = samples I've used it quite a lot, and it seems pretty reliable. I'm NOT a professional programmer (self taught single parent) but I = thought I'd make it available to you guys & Gals. Please note it is programmed in J++ .. you will need to have the = Microsoft Java Virtual Machine installed before the prog will work.(If = you have a normal Win Me / 98 installation, it's probably already = there.) As I AM short of money, we'll call it shareware.. IE if you use it a = lot, send me a little cash (Just =A310 will be OK.).=20 If I get anything back I'll add other functions.. EG mono->stereo = conversion of samples received from s750. There are no help files, but it's pretty simple...and you can email me = if you get stuck. My email address is tony.bywaters@btinternet.com or contact me through the group! Drop me a line if you want one!! ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C198A7.97123DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi.
This is my first post.
I have owned an S750 since it was first = released.
Still working beautifully.
I could never get Wavelab to transfer = my PC wav=20 files reliably.
As I do a bit of programming, I = designed a=20 utility that would enable me to send WAV files from my PC, over Midi, to = the=20 S750.
 
What it does in brief..
 
1/ Sends Wav files to = S750.
2/ Gets audio files from S750, and = saves as Wav on=20 the PC.(Mono only for now.. can be combined to stereo in WLab = etc.)
3/ Can send stereo files. (Midi dump is = Mono only,=20 so the wav is automatically split to 2 mono wavs, then both get sent, = and the=20 partial is created in the S750 with the soundfiles ready = panned.)
4/ Loops (forward only) in the Wav file = are kept in=20 the S750
5/ Loops (forward only) in the S750 are = kept in the=20 Wav file.
6/ Can automatically create partials = for all=20 samples n the S750.
7/ You can drag and drop many wavs at = once, and the=20 prog will attempt to send them all.
8/ It goes very slowly.. thanks to the = speed of=20 midi.. and the size of samples
 
I've used it quite a lot, and it seems = pretty=20 reliable.
 
I'm NOT a professional programmer (self = taught=20 single parent) but I thought I'd make it available to you guys &=20 Gals.
Please note it is programmed in J++ .. = you will=20 need to have the Microsoft Java Virtual Machine installed before the = prog will=20 work.(If you have a normal Win Me / 98 installation, it's probably = already=20 there.)
As I AM short of money, we'll call it = shareware..=20 IE if you use it a lot, send me a little cash (Just =A310 will be OK.).=20
If I get anything back I'll add other = functions..=20 EG mono->stereo conversion of samples received from = s750.
 
There are no help files, but it's = pretty=20 simple...and you can email me if you get stuck.
My email address is tony.bywaters@btinternet.com=
or contact me through the = group!
Drop me a line if you want = one!!
 
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From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 9 11:54:54 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-14310>; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:54:45 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14311>; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:54:35 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id JAA11885; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:03:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma011883; Wed, 9 Jan 02 09:03:47 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g09GsJC81042 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:54:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14310>; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:21:23 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-118-219.tnt9.me2.uunet.de [149.225.118.219]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id PAA13618 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:21:18 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C3C5065.4A96941@cityweb.de> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:15:02 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Hi. References: <000801c198a7$b281dca0$775e073e@webpc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > TonyB wrote: > > Hi. > This is my first post. Welcome! > 4/ Loops (forward only) in the Wav file are kept in the S750 > 5/ Loops (forward only) in the S750 are kept in the Wav file. Are any loop modes other than forward supported by the WAV format at all? > I'm NOT a professional programmer (self taught single parent) but I > thought I'd make it available to you guys & Gals. > Please note it is programmed in J++ .. you will need to have the > Microsoft Java Virtual Machine installed before the prog will work.(If > you have a normal Win Me / 98 installation, it's probably already > there.) Java sounds like it is cross-platform... any chance that it could be run on a Mac? 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From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 9 11:56:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-14310>; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:56:45 -0500 Received: from sirppi.helsinki.fi ([128.214.205.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14310>; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:56:35 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by sirppi.helsinki.fi (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g09GuTH12414 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:56:29 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: sirppi.helsinki.fi: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 11:56:29 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Sample converter In-Reply-To: <3C3B6CEE.21E35DD7@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Jesse Segovia wrote: > > [CHICKEN SYSTEMS TRANSLATOR] /.../ converts to and from the Roland > > format among many other formats. Further more it can also read, write > > and format Roland-formatted floppy disks. > > Is this true? I've known Translator reads Roland format for a long time > but I wasn't sure it already wrote to Roland. At least according to the review in SOS Jan. 2002 this should be the case: "Four stand-alone DOS-based utilities are also included with the package to read, write, and format Akai, Emax, Ensoniq, and Roland-formatted floppy disks, and you can also launch these from within Translator using toolbar buttons." > Since, in my experience, the S-760 does such a good job directly > convert-loading Akai sample CDs I'd only be interested in using > Translator to convert wav. files to Roland format I have no experience from any comparison. But at least I could think that moving around, sorting and finding samples could be faster using a computer (bigger screen, better file-handling commands). According to the reviewer the conversion by ChickenSys Translator is even better: "Whatever native format your sampler uses, you will always get best results if you buy libraries in that same format, but whenever you use non-native formats Translator should give far better results than the utilities built in to hardware and software samplers." > Is the review on timespace.com complete? The bodytext is complete but the side-bars and boxes as well as the photos are not included. jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 9 12:18:07 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-14311>; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:18:02 -0500 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14311>; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:17:47 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g09HHh6L015312 for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GPOLDJ00.RPJ for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:17:43 -0800 Received: from localhost ([63.172.79.232]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GPOLDI00.8KJ for ; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:17:42 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:17:24 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Hi. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v480) From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3C3C5065.4A96941@cityweb.de> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.480) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, > Java sounds like it is cross-platform... any chance that it could be run > on a Mac? That was the subject of a huge lawsuit -- Microsoft's Java "sounds like it is cross-platform," but really it's not. They added a bunch of stuff into their Java that only runs on Microsoft's VM on Microsoft's OS, thus destroying one of Java's key features and screwing Sun, and while still appearing to ride the cross-platform Java bandwagon. This is why Java is no longer installed by default on Windows XP. But that said, I wouldn't be surprised if Tony's code could be ported with reasonable ease to use true cross-platform APIs. I'm not sure that MIDI has a standard Java API, however. I know MacOS X has a MIDI API, but I'm pretty sure it's Apple's API instead of something made by Sun. This would require swapping out some classes depending on if you're running on Windows or a Mac, and the Mac stuff would only run on OS X. Another thought: Quicktime for Java might have a MIDI API in it, and that would potentially run on Windows, MacOS 9, and MacOS X. In any case, it sounds like a great tool. I'm a Mac guy myself, and I do some Java stuff, but I'm already stacked up way too deep with side projects. :) I hardly get to do *anything* with music as it is. (Currently trying to get a breath controller working with my TrapKAT and S760.) -Josh - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 9 21:31:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-14311>; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:31:51 -0500 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-14311>; Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:31:41 -0500 Received: from user-2ive2p4.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.11.36] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16OV04-0006zu-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 21:31:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3C3CFCB3.25B35DE7@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:30:11 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup SoundSations samples Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Going through some of my old stuff I recently found a sample cassette tape I bought from a company called SoundSations maybe fifteen years ago (man, does it bring back memories!), called '400 Drum and Percussion Samples.' It contains a guy saying "one," then a wet kick sample, "two," then a dry kick sample, etc. It's old and it's only a cassette, but it still sounds pretty good. I also bought a SoundSations sample tape of the best Yamaha DX-7 samples which is lost, but as I remember it contained some pretty good samples like 'Piano Bells' and 'Distortion Piano,' all multi-sampled across the keyboard. Does anyone know if SoundSations is still around? Do they make an audio CD containing these same samples? It might be a cheap way to get some new sounds, especially the DX-7 sounds which were pretty good. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 11 18:56:33 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-22486>; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:56:25 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-22486>; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:56:19 -0500 Received: from grifgraf.demon.co.uk ([194.222.88.198]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16PBWt-000JWS-0Y for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:56:11 +0000 Message-ID: <3C3F7CB2.69EC62DE@grifgraf.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:01:04 -0500 From: Pete Reply-To: pete@grifgraf.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup SoundSations samples References: <3C3CFCB3.25B35DE7@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse Segovia wrote: > > Going through some of my old stuff I recently found a sample cassette > tape I bought from a company called SoundSations maybe fifteen years ago > (man, does it bring back memories!), called '400 Drum and Percussion > Samples.' It contains a guy saying "one," then a wet kick sample, > "two," then a dry kick sample, etc. That reminds me of a sample tape I have where there is a spoken description before each sample, and I'd guess the narrator is Japanese, so it all sounds slightly wrong. It's difficult to put the stresses in the phrase "hand clap" in the wrong place, but this guy manages it. I should really sample the spoken descriptions instead of the instruments... mmm, now that would be surreal... Pete - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 12 12:50:35 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-12739>; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:50:26 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-12739>; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:50:23 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0CHoJ017531 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:50:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from axis.jeack.com.au ([203.24.125.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-12739>; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 02:50:12 -0500 Received: (qmail 60995 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2002 07:49:55 -0000 Received: from d152-std.jeack.com.au (HELO wannous) (203.24.125.152) by axis.jeack.com.au with SMTP; 12 Jan 2002 07:49:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000701c19bd6$f86ec480$987d18cb@wannous> From: "nina" To: Subject: sgroup help Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:06:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C19B93.E0574CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C19B93.E0574CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi; =20 I AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH SDISK,EVERYTIME I GET TIS MESSAGE=20 "COULD NOT READ THE FILE..." 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I AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH SDISK,EVERYTIME I GET TIS = MESSAGE=20
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From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 12 19:40:16 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-12738>; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:40:07 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-12739>; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:39:55 -0500 Received: (qmail 24114 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jan 2002 00:39:49 -0000 Received: from a2as07-p14.hh.tli.de (HELO BIGOS2) (212.221.224.14) by mail.gmx.net (mp014-rz3) with SMTP; 13 Jan 2002 00:39:49 -0000 From: wrolf@gmx.de Reply-to: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:01:22 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <000701c19bd6$f86ec480$987d18cb@wannous> Subject: Re: sgroup Using sdisk (was: help) X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.30a/30 Message-Id: <2002Jan12.193955edt.193713-12739@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello Nina, the sdisk program expects a file ("sdisk.out" by default) to be present in the same folder as the sdisk program. The error message you get may come from that file not being present. If you have got a W30 file and you want to write it onto a floppy disk, you should make a copy of this file and call it "sdisk.out" in the folder where your sdisk program resides. The other (maybe better) way is to start the sdisk program and to choose the "d" option. Then, you are asked to give the name of the w30 file you want to write to the floppy disk. Fill in the filename, press enter, choose drive A:, press enter again, and then press "w" to start "w"riting again. The file will be written onto the floppy disk. If it still makes the error "Can not read file", then the file you want to write onto floppy disk is not a w30 file, or it is corrupt. A w30 file should be exactly 737280 bytes long. If it isn't, it is probably not a w30 file. If you did not understand much of this, ask someone in your neighbourhood who has computer experience to help you. By the way, you should put into the subject line of your message something that gives an idea of what your message is about. "help" is never a good subject line: It says nothing about what your message is about. Also did you see that your message was all written in upper case letters. Was it by intention ? It is not usual to do that, and many people may find that strange (or even aggressive). Wilhelm Rolf On Jan 12 2002 you wrote: >I AM HAVING A PROBLEM WITH SDISK,EVERYTIME I GET TIS MESSAGE >"COULD NOT READ THE FILE..." PLEASE REPLY. THANX EVRY1. > >-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 12 19:57:30 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-12739>; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:57:24 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-12739>; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:57:13 -0500 Received: (qmail 22117 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jan 2002 00:57:10 -0000 Received: from a2as07-p14.hh.tli.de (HELO BIGOS2) (212.221.224.14) by mail.gmx.net (mp016-rz3) with SMTP; 13 Jan 2002 00:57:10 -0000 From: wrolf@gmx.de Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 19:45:49 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <3b.1fcf3d57.2960c89a@aol.com> Subject: sgroup Re: Turned off LCD light (Strange noise from the W-30) X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.30a/30 Message-Id: <2002Jan12.195713edt.193713-12739@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello Dave, On Dec 30 2001 you wrote: >Wil that is a very long and tedious job. The cleaning part is easy but >getting in there is the big problem. It can be done but be prepared for >some work. My friend did it but said he will never do it again. Ouh, I imagined that - but the fact that someone did it and had success is very interesting. >Sorry I do not have specifics but I thought you will like to know that >right off. Yes - nice of you to tell me about it. Even if it is long and tedious, I think it is not impossible that I'll try it one day. I try to live with the dirt in the display, I hope it will not become more. Possible that the dirt was attracted by the electrostatic tension of background lighting which I cut off now. > Roland of course charges to do the work. It probably costs the weight of the display in gold :-) Thank you for the information, Wilhelm - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 12 21:15:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-12738>; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:15:15 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-12739>; Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:15:10 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.86.153]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020113021505.NSTG941.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 02:15:05 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c19bd6$c78d08e0$9956580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: <000701c19bd6$f86ec480$987d18cb@wannous> Subject: sgroup Anyone want this? Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:05:30 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C19BAC.DE078700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C19BAC.DE078700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I have this Alesis D5 Sample CD that's sitting in my collection and = isn't getting used. I want to get rid of it. I paid $25 for it. I'd like = to sell it for $13.50 ($10 for the disc, $3.50 for fast shipping). It = has all of the samples from the Alesis D5 Drum Module. It's an Audio and = .wav CD. Someone please take it off of my hands. Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C19BAC.DE078700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I have this Alesis D5 Sample CD that's = sitting in=20 my collection and isn't getting used. I want to get rid of it. I paid = $25 for=20 it. I'd like to sell it for $13.50 ($10 for the disc, $3.50 for fast = shipping).=20 It has all of the samples from the Alesis D5 Drum Module. It's an Audio = and .wav=20 CD. Someone please take it off of my hands.
 
Thanks,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C19BAC.DE078700-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 07:18:12 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 07:18:05 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13221>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 07:17:58 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.80.195]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020113121755.MDFA13869.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 12:17:55 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c19c2a$fe46d920$c350580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup How are these discs? Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 07:08:19 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C19C01.1485D4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C19C01.1485D4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I was able to pick up the: 1) Roland Rhythm Section Instruments sample CD (the original) 2) Roland Preview Sample Disc 3) Roland Sampling Showcase CD . . . All for $32 off of ebay. I hear these CDs are really good. These = discs are talked about all of the time. Can anyone say anything else = about these discs? I don't usually blindly spend my money. Do any of you = think this was a decent investment? Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C19C01.1485D4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I was able to pick up the:
 
1) Roland Rhythm Section Instruments = sample CD (the=20 original)
2) Roland Preview Sample = Disc
3) Roland Sampling Showcase = CD
 
. . . All for $32 off of ebay. I hear = these CDs are=20 really good. These discs are talked about all of the time. Can anyone = say=20 anything else about these discs? I don't usually blindly spend my money. = Do any=20 of you think this was a decent investment?
 
Thanks,
Harold
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([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jan 2002 14:07:34 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000e01c19c2a$fe46d920$c350580c@epu1> References: <000e01c19c2a$fe46d920$c350580c@epu1> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:09:50 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup How are these discs? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Hey All, > >I was able to pick up the: > >1) Roland Rhythm Section Instruments sample CD (the original) >2) Roland Preview Sample Disc >3) Roland Sampling Showcase CD > >. . . All for $32 off of ebay. I hear these CDs are really good. >These discs are talked about all of the time. Can anyone say >anything else about these discs? I don't usually blindly spend my >money. Do any of you think this was a decent investment? > >Thanks, >Harold That's a hell of a deal. The rhythm section and preview discs have tons of usable stuff. -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 09:53:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:53:28 -0500 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:53:22 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.4c.4d5de64 (4231) for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:53:15 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <4c.4d5de64.2972f95b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 09:53:15 -0500 Subject: sgroup cdroms To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Can I use cdrom discs for my s760? You know, the ones that they sell in the stores for $200/$300 that has hundreds of sounds on them? From this list responses it seems like the s760 cannot. Let me know for sure. Thanks Dave - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 10:00:33 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:00:26 -0500 Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.211]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:00:20 -0500 Received: (qmail 7996 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2002 15:00:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jan 2002 15:00:13 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4c.4d5de64.2972f95b@aol.com> References: <4c.4d5de64.2972f95b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:02:29 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Can I use cdrom discs for my s760? You know, the ones that they sell in the >stores for $200/$300 that has hundreds of sounds on them? From this list >responses it seems like the s760 cannot. Let me know for sure. You can if they are Roland formatted discs. And you can possibly convert load some Akai discs as well, never tried it myself. -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 10:17:11 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13221>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:17:05 -0500 Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.164]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13221>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:16:59 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.9d.216ebeda (3928) for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:16:47 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <9d.216ebeda.2972fedf@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:16:47 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks for such a quick response. How can I format a CDROM to Roland s760 and copy the sounds over? And how do I do it with floppies as well? I will need both formats. Dave >>>Can I use cdrom discs for my s760? You know, the ones that they sell in the >stores for $200/$300 that has hundreds of sounds on them? From this list >responses it seems like the s760 cannot. Let me know for sure. You can if they are Roland formatted discs. And you can possibly convert load some Akai discs as well, never tried it myself.<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 10:19:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:19:47 -0500 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:19:31 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0db.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.171] helo=mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16PmPn-0003m2-00; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3C41A528.D24982BB@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:18:00 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup How are these discs? References: <000e01c19c2a$fe46d920$c350580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > 1) Roland Rhythm Section Instruments sample CD (the original) This is the Roland 'Drums & Cymbals' and 'Guitars and Bass' CDs put together, right? I think you already have Drums & Cymbals. I like 'Drums & Cymbals;' there's a lot of the old Roland library you can here on just about every older drum machine and synth with drum samples but it's still good. I haven't done much with the guitars and bass CD, though. > 2) Roland Preview Sample Disc I think this is a good investment - you can still get it brand new from Roland for $14.95. It's got an OK assortment of samples from 3rd party CDs (many which don't seem to be available anymore) and some good samples from the Roland disks - it has some of the best acoustic drum samples from the Roland Drums & Cymbals CD, for example. It's got two sample kits from one of the drum loops CDs which sound pretty good. It's also got demos on it, which I think are useless since you don't get any of the individual sounds. > 3) Roland Sampling Showcase CD I've heard of this but I've never seen it - please let us know what it contains. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 10:26:05 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:25:59 -0500 Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.211]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13221>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:25:49 -0500 Received: (qmail 15200 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2002 15:25:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.118.51?) ([64.81.118.51]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 13 Jan 2002 15:25:47 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9d.216ebeda.2972fedf@aol.com> References: <9d.216ebeda.2972fedf@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:28:04 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Thanks for such a quick response. How can I format a CDROM to Roland s760 and >copy the sounds over? And how do I do it with floppies as well? I will need >both formats. Are you on a Mac or PC? If the answer is PC, someone else will have to chime in... -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 10:41:19 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:41:11 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([208.52.68.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:41:08 -0500 Received: from [208.138.26.187] ([208.138.26.187]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06124; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:41:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4c.4d5de64.2972f95b@aol.com> References: <4c.4d5de64.2972f95b@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:42:19 -0500 To: DAJA300@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 9:53 am -0500 13/1/2002, DAJA300@aol.com wrote: >Can I use cdrom discs for my s760? You know, the ones that they sell in the >stores for $200/$300 that has hundreds of sounds on them? From this list >responses it seems like the s760 cannot. Let me know for sure. > >Thanks >Dave > maybe I am lost. BUt once it is roland format cdrom the S-760 can use it. I have tons of stuff I buy from spectrasonics for around that price. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 10:45:05 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:44:55 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([208.52.68.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13221>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:44:44 -0500 Received: from [208.138.26.187] ([208.138.26.187]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA06222; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:45:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9d.216ebeda.2972fedf@aol.com> References: <9d.216ebeda.2972fedf@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:46:08 -0500 To: DAJA300@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 10:16 am -0500 13/1/2002, DAJA300@aol.com wrote: >Thanks for such a quick response. How can I format a CDROM to Roland s760 and >copy the sounds over? And how do I do it with floppies as well? I will need >both formats. > >Dave > you can't format a cdrom to roland. you have to BUY the ROland format of that library.. also I think the Akai 1000 sample formats work a bit..for floppies you can only USE roland samples... if your question is how to format a BLANK floppy into roland format that is a bit easier. it is under Disk menu and called I think Utilities. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 11:00:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13221>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:00:13 -0500 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:00:07 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0db.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.171] helo=mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Pn3B-0005AF-00; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:00:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3C41AEB0.9CF91A6D@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:58:40 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DAJA300@aol.com, Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms References: <4c.4d5de64.2972f95b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk There are folks on this list who know much better than I, but every sample CD comes on a specific format. Here's what little I know of the more popular formats: audio - just sounds on a CD - you have to sample them into your sampler, if you like to do that. These are usually the cheapest CDs. Akai - very popular, there are tons of these CDs out there and the S-760 will convert load them. My experience with Convert Load has been very good but to be honest I've only worked with one CD so I'm not an expert. It is slower than loading from Roland CDs but you get everything with the sample (patches, partials, loops, etc.) so they're very usable. Once it's in your sampler you can save it to some other format, like floppy disk or Zip disk. Oh, and I guess there are several different Akai formats like S-1000 and S-2000. I'm not familiar with this - I couldn't tell you which format my Akai CD is. wav. files - Wav. files are very common audio files found on PCs. They are usually CD quality and can contain loop info and may be in stereo. I guess most modern samplers can read (and write) wav. files but the S-760 cannot. You need something to convert the wav. file to Roland format. There's software that will do that but I think it only converts the wav. file into the lowest sample element - you have to do everything else like layering, keyboard mapping, etc. Roland S-7XX - what we live for! Native Roland format. These aren't as popular as other formats but they are still around. I guess the Roland 16-bit samplers is still very popular in the film scoring and professional sound markets so some new CDs do come out in this format. There are other formats for particular samples, like the Synclavier, and there are sample CDs made for the popular software sample GigaSampler. 'Don't know anything about these or trying to use them on the S-760. Jesse DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > > Can I use cdrom discs for my s760? You know, the ones that they sell in the > stores for $200/$300 that has hundreds of sounds on them? From this list > responses it seems like the s760 cannot. Let me know for sure. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 13 19:31:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-13222>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:31:44 -0500 Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-13221>; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:31:32 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.194.10accb0 (4403) for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:31:25 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <194.10accb0.297380dd@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:31:25 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >>CD-ROMs are by nature 'Read Only Memory', so you can't format them.<< I know that. But my question was whether you could format blank cd roms for the s760. Like a CDRW. With this technology advancing you never know. I takes nothing too lightly. >>Copying them is illegal and as a musician yourself I'm sure you'd agree it's not on to copy other musicians copyrighted media. Regards, Rik<< And I never mentioned trying to copy anybody's stuff illegaly. Please read carefully!<< Thanks Dave - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 14 00:57:15 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24798>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:57:07 -0500 Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.99]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24799>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:56:55 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.155.7407206 (4469) for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:56:34 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <155.7407206.2973cd1c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:56:44 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >>>I know that. But my question was whether you could format blank cd roms for >the s760. Like a CDRW. With this technology advancing you never know. I takes >nothing too lightly. > HI Dave, I too am a bit lost about what you trying to do.. why you want to format blank cd roms? what is your goal. rsp<< Actually I don't want to format anything. I was just inquiring as to whether such a feature was available. No biggy. If it was, it will make the sampler even more powerful becuz I could simply burn all my samples to CD which is easier to handle than these hard drives, give me more space, back up my cds, cost effective, etc. etc. But I can deal with what I got. But like I said up top, It was just a harmless question. Dave - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 14 08:47:34 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24798>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:47:30 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([208.52.68.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24798>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:47:20 -0500 Received: from [208.52.71.122] ([208.52.71.122]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA25226; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:47:41 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <155.7407206.2973cd1c@aol.com> References: <155.7407206.2973cd1c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:48:42 -0500 To: DAJA300@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > > >Actually I don't want to format anything. I was just inquiring as to whether >such a feature was available. No biggy. > >If it was, it will make the sampler even more powerful becuz I could simply >burn all my samples to CD which is easier to handle than these hard drives, >give me more space, back up my cds, cost effective, etc. etc. But I can deal >with what I got. > >But like I said up top, It was just a harmless question. > >Dave > :-) Ah hah we are getting somewhere. that's why I asked about your goal. this can be done. I am not sure how to do it on the PC but on teh mac. you would connect your scsi device used on teh S-760 to the macintosh. Then Use toast and do a SCSI copy of that hard drive and burn it. works like a charm. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 14 08:58:17 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24798>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:58:08 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24799>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:58:03 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16Q7ce-000G9l-0X for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:58:01 +0000 Message-ID: <+RcOfkDbJuQ8EwOb@lovecraft.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:51:23 -0500 Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick To: Subject: sgroup S-50 disk box References: <155.7407206.2973cd1c@aol.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! I'm trying to find a disk box to make my S-50 complete - it's the little one, holds about 10 disks, and hangs off the back through the vents. I already have a DT-100, and manuals, and thanks to Alan Tyler, an Atari SC1224 monitor and adaptor for it. If anyone has one spare, please email me :) Richard -- Richard Kilpatrick, long haired prophet of doom. |\ _,,,---,,_ Musical suicide - www.mp3.com/RichardKilpatrick /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, Work: Icon Publications, Group Sales Manager |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 14 12:18:42 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24799>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:18:34 -0500 Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24799>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:18:31 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1a0.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.64] helo=mindspring.com) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16QAkb-0004m5-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:18:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3C431292.F705CFEB@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 12:17:06 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup S-550 Loop Meisters!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Is anyone very good at looping on the S-550 sampler? A long time ago in another life, I used to own a whole slew of great synths like the MKS-70, TX-802, Jupiter-6, MT-32, etc. I sold them to get new equipment, but before I did, I sampled the patches I used most often (I REALLY regret not sampling EVERYTHING when I had the chance). Unfortunately, I've only looped a fraction of what I sampled and lots of the sounds are really nice (to me, at least). I've also got some Korg M-1 samples which aren't all looped. If anyone on the list enjoys looping on the S-550 and is particularly good at it, I could send the patches in zipped sdisk format. The value is you (and anyone else who wants them) get some good S-550 samples of classic synths and I get them looped! Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 14 22:50:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-24799>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:50:16 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.98]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-24799>; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:50:12 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id b.162.724485b (4587) for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:50:09 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <162.724485b.297500f0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:50:08 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard that sounds good. I am on the pc however with no scsi but would consider future upgrade if it met my needs. Is this a back up process you mentioned? How do you retrieve the sounds back into the s760? Here is what I would want. Get your sounds from any source then burn whatever you need and transfer it to the s760 CDROM and use it directly from the s760 like an ordinary cd on the s760. For instance if you download payed or free software that cannot be run from the s760 cdrom. You can then transfer it to be read from a cdrom on the s760 in the same way the hard drive I now have works rather than trying to sample those sounds one by one. I would be interested in that for sure. >>>Actually I don't want to format anything. I was just inquiring as to whether >such a feature was available. No biggy. > >If it was, it will make the sampler even more powerful becuz I could simply >burn all my samples to CD which is easier to handle than these hard drives, >give me more space, back up my cds, cost effective, etc. etc. But I can deal >with what I got. > >But like I said up top, It was just a harmless question. > >Dave > :-) Ah hah we are getting somewhere. that's why I asked about your goal. this can be done. I am not sure how to do it on the PC but on teh mac. you would connect your scsi device used on teh S-760 to the macintosh. Then Use toast and do a SCSI copy of that hard drive and burn it. works like a charm. rsp<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 15 11:12:33 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-20912>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:12:25 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20912>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:12:15 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.96.77]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020115161213.DQBF5540.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:12:13 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c19ddf$697dbb40$4d60580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Does the Roland . . . Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:12:19 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C19DB5.7FA2C660" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C19DB5.7FA2C660 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I was just wondering if anyone could confirm that the Roland "Rhythm = Section Volume 1" disc contains more drum samples than the Roland "Drums = & Cymbals" disc. Are there more, or are they (the drum samples from the = LCDP1) just included on the Rhythm Section Disc? Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C19DB5.7FA2C660 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I was just wondering if anyone could = confirm that=20 the Roland "Rhythm Section Volume 1" disc contains more drum samples = than the=20 Roland "Drums & Cymbals" disc. Are there more, or are they (the drum = samples=20 from the LCDP1) just included on the Rhythm Section Disc?
 
Thanks,
Harold
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From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 15 12:47:09 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-20911>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:47:01 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20911>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:46:50 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0FHkmW62324 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:46:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20912>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:19:47 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g0FGJgE0022172 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com ([10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GPZMOT00.26A for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:19:42 -0800 Received: from localhost ([63.172.79.149]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GPZMOS00.92T for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:19:40 -0800 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:19:39 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Does the Roland . . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v480) From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <000d01c19ddf$697dbb40$4d60580c@epu1> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.480) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Harold, I talked to Roland support a while back, and their statement was the=20 LCDX-1 (Rhythm Section) contains the exact contents of LCDP-1 (Drums and=20= Cymbals) and LCDP-2 (Basses and whatever). Nothing more, nothing less --=20= just repackaging at a better price. I personally bought LCDP-1 since=20 those were the sounds I needed, and I found a good deal on it. Great=20 disc. Best regards, Josh On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 09:12 AM, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Hey All, > =A0 > I was just wondering if anyone could confirm that the Roland "Rhythm=20= > Section Volume 1" disc contains more drum samples than the Roland=20 > "Drums & Cymbals" disc. Are there more, or are they (the drum samples=20= > from the LCDP1) just included on the Rhythm Section Disc? > =A0 > Thanks, > Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 15 12:47:17 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20911>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:47:12 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20911>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:47:02 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0FHl0v62331 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:47:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.88]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20911>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:30:38 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id g0FGUZD5025867 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GPZN6Y00.RRW for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:30:34 -0800 Received: from localhost ([63.172.79.149]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GPZN6Y00.J4R; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:30:34 -0800 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:30:32 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v480) Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca To: DAJA300@aol.com From: Josh Carter In-Reply-To: <162.724485b.297500f0@aol.com> Message-Id: <324E5464-09D5-11D6-B47B-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.480) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, What you need to do is create the CD master on a Roland-formatted hard drive. That is, with the hard drive hooked up to your S760, format it and put all the sounds you want on there. Once the drive is exactly as you'd want the CD to be, you then take the drive and hook it to a machine that can do raw SCSI copy to CD-R. I know you can do this from a Mac with Toast; I'm not sure about PC. Also, to be safe, I'd use a hard drive less than 650MB in size, otherwise some things may not make it to the CD. I think what you're saying is that you'd like to master everything on your PC, burn the CD, and then take it to the Roland. That would be pretty cool, but I don't know of any software that would do it. You might be able to use a transfer program that can upload stuff from the PC to Roland over SCSI or MIDI, thus speeding the process of getting samples to your S760, but I haven't used anything of this sort. Perhaps others could fill in details there. Personally I wind up dinking with my sounds on the Roland all the time, tweaking volumes or SMT layers and whatnot, so I really need to stick with the hard drive. Having a CD-R backup, though, will save me lots of grief if the drive ever goes down! Best regards, Josh On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 08:50 PM, DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > Richard that sounds good. I am on the pc however with no scsi but would > consider future upgrade if it met my needs. Is this a back up process > you > mentioned? How do you retrieve the sounds back into the s760? > > Here is what I would want. Get your sounds from any source then burn > whatever > you need and transfer it to the s760 CDROM and use it directly from the > s760 > like an ordinary cd on the s760. > > For instance if you download payed or free software that cannot be run > from > the s760 cdrom. You can then transfer it to be read from a cdrom on the > s760 > in the same way the hard drive I now have works rather than trying to > sample > those sounds one by one. > > I would be interested in that for sure. > >>>> Actually I don't want to format anything. I was just inquiring as to > whether >> such a feature was available. No biggy. >> >> If it was, it will make the sampler even more powerful becuz I could >> simply >> burn all my samples to CD which is easier to handle than these hard >> drives, >> give me more space, back up my cds, cost effective, etc. etc. But I >> can deal >> with what I got. >> >> But like I said up top, It was just a harmless question. >> >> Dave >> > > > :-) > Ah hah we are getting somewhere. > that's why I asked about your goal. > this can be done. > I am not sure how to do it on the PC but on teh mac. you would > connect your scsi device used on teh S-760 to the macintosh. Then Use > toast and do a SCSI copy of that hard drive and burn it. works like a > charm. > > rsp<< > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 15 15:03:01 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-20912>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:02:54 -0500 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20912>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:02:51 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16QZnE-000BCH-0A for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:02:48 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "S760 Mailing List" Subject: sgroup Roland sample CD's Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:02:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have a question that I might get flamed for but... Is there anything to stop you copying a Roland sample CD by using Nero or EzCDC on a PC to burn to a blank CD-ROM? I could have used the word backup but I am being honest here...other than the usual copyright restrictions etc...I mean is it in a particular format that will not allow cloning or anything? Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 15 17:15:30 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-20911>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:15:23 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20911>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:15:13 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0FMF8v79691 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:15:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtp.noos.fr (camus.noos.net [212.198.2.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20912>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:46:31 -0500 Received: (qmail 162151541 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jan 2002 21:38:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO zgogor) ([195.132.186.52]) (envelope-sender ) by 212.198.2.70 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Jan 2002 21:38:28 -0000 Message-ID: <02db01c19e0d$8749aac0$0200a8c0@noos.fr> From: "yael" To: References: Subject: sgroup Roland sample CD's Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:42:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi all, There is a lot of discussion about Roland Cd... I would like to give my point of view here... Roland Samplers are no more available and the Cd too ,even if there some of them on the Market... That's why, if we want to keep S550,S760,S770 and others alive , we have to copy those Cd's... it's like a "Roland Protection" :o) or they all gonna die. Igor - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 15 21:34:34 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-20911>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:34:25 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20912>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:34:15 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0G2Y5E87817 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:34:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail13.uunet.ca ([142.77.1.50]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20912>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:34:36 -0500 Received: from oskar.one-2-one.net ([195.94.80.16]) by mail13.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <240499-4389>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:28:07 -0500 Received: from lfm.de (dsl-213-023-043-244.arcor-ip.net [213.23.43.244]) by oskar.one-2-one.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id g0FNXkS24478 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 00:33:46 +0100 Message-ID: <3C44AFD7.4B949CEC@lfm.de> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:40:23 -0500 From: Lars Friedrich Organization: LFM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: S760 Mailing List Subject: Re: sgroup Roland sample CD's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Glyn, I did copy CDs as I never wanted to take original CD or my Harddisks with me on a gig. Nero gave me some promlems, but CloneCD from Elaborate Bytes (http://www.elby.org) worked just fine... btw... in most european countries copying for backup purposes etc. is explicitly allowed - even if the copyright restrictions on the product say otherwise... the law of the country you live in is applicable and normally overrules the interests of any company that wants to do business in that country. Plus: copying files from a CD onto your harddrive might be an unauthorized copy already and therefore be restricted by the company's licence... :-) (from the company's point of view) ... just funny lawstuff... regards, Lars ---------------------- Glyn wrote: > I have a question that I might get flamed for but... > > Is there anything to stop you copying a Roland sample CD by using Nero or > EzCDC on a PC to burn to a blank CD-ROM? > > I could have used the word backup but I am being honest here...other than > the usual copyright restrictions etc...I mean is it in a particular format > that will not allow cloning or anything? > > Regards, > -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 15 22:38:55 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-20911>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:38:48 -0500 Received: from siaag1ac.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20912>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:38:35 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id WAA27454 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:38:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:37:27 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Roland sample CD's To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200201152237_MC3-EE21-A7C8@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >btw... in most european countries copying for backup purposes etc. is >explicitly allowed - even if the copyright restrictions on the product say >otherwise... the law of the country you live in is applicable and normally >overrules the interests of any company that wants to do business in tha= t >country. I think that the US is the same, but it must be for true backup, not bootlegging to your pals. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 16 01:00:51 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-7253>; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:00:45 -0500 Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.41]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-7254>; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:00:35 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.25.) id b.188.1d9bdbd (25714) for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:00:28 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <188.1d9bdbd.297670fb@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:00:27 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup cdroms To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Sorry about my mouse slipping earlier. <; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:57:54 -0500 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-7254>; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:57:47 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16R2kK-0008Iv-0A; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 02:57:44 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "yael" , Subject: RE: sgroup Roland sample CD's Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 21:58:10 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <02db01c19e0d$8749aac0$0200a8c0@noos.fr> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Why copy when you can get genuine Roland sample CD's at unbelievable prices... http://www.westlamusic.com/wlam/events/cd/roland.html Not affiliated in any way just thought it was too good to miss! Regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of yael > Sent: 15 January 2002 21:42 > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: sgroup Roland sample CD's > > > hi all, > There is a lot of discussion about Roland Cd... > I would like to give my point of view here... > > Roland Samplers are no more available and the Cd too ,even if > there some of > them on the Market... > That's why, if we want to keep S550,S760,S770 and others alive , > we have to > copy those Cd's... > it's like a "Roland Protection" :o) or they all gonna die. > Igor > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 16 23:17:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-7254>; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:17:16 -0500 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-7254>; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:17:06 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1ji.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.6.114] helo=mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16R3z0-0006NF-00; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3C464FDE.D1A6C7D@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:15:26 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glyn , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Roland sample CD's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yes, but call the store first and see what they have - although the Orchestral Winds CD is advertised I'd be very surprised if they actually had it in stock. I called both stores several times over the summer and they never had one, and according to them they weren't getting in any more of the old stock from Roland. But I did buy everything they have - overall I'm very happy with the Roland CDs, ESPECIALLY for $29 a pop. Jesse Glyn wrote: > > Why copy when you can get genuine Roland sample CD's at unbelievable > prices... > > http://www.westlamusic.com/wlam/events/cd/roland.html - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 07:13:21 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:13:15 -0500 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:13:05 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16RBPe-000J3X-0K for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:12:58 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "S760 Mailing List" Subject: sgroup Postscript labels - Roland_labels.zip Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:13:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I just downloaded the above file from the sgroup archive which contains R1-R8.ps files. I have a HP 6MP postscript printer...but excuse my ignorance...how do I actually print these files? TIA Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 07:13:49 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:13:37 -0500 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-9100>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:13:30 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16RBPe-000J3X-4S; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:12:59 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "Jesse Segovia" , "Sampler Group" Subject: RE: sgroup Roland sample CD's Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:13:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3C464FDE.D1A6C7D@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk What was the Roland Model Number for the Orchestral Winds CD Jesse? Being a collector do you or anyone else here have any of the following Roland Sample CD-ROMs for sale? L-CDP-03 L-CDP-04 L-CDP-05 L-CDP-06 L-CDP-10 L-CDP-11 L-CDP-13 L-CDC-01 L-CD-702 Thanks & regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > Sent: 17 January 2002 04:15 > To: Glyn; Sampler Group > Subject: Re: sgroup Roland sample CD's > > > Yes, but call the store first and see what they have - although the > Orchestral Winds CD is advertised I'd be very surprised if they actually > had it in stock. I called both stores several times over the summer and > they never had one, and according to them they weren't getting in any > more of the old stock from Roland. > > But I did buy everything they have - overall I'm very happy with the > Roland CDs, ESPECIALLY for $29 a pop. > > Jesse > > Glyn wrote: > > > > Why copy when you can get genuine Roland sample CD's at unbelievable > > prices... > > > > http://www.westlamusic.com/wlam/events/cd/roland.html > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 11:52:00 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9100>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:51:52 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:51:47 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16RFlO-000Lrv-4g for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 16:51:43 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "Sampler Group" Subject: RE: sgroup Roland sample CD's Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:51:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Further to my last post I have the PBS-TRI playback sample module for the Korg Trinity if anyone is interested to trade for Roland sample CD's. This is brand new, still sealed and comes with EPROM's and manuals. Don't know if any of you use the Trinity but it was worth a shot...:-) Regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Glyn > Sent: 17 January 2002 12:13 > To: Jesse Segovia; Sampler Group > Subject: RE: sgroup Roland sample CD's > > > What was the Roland Model Number for the Orchestral Winds CD Jesse? > > Being a collector do you or anyone else here have any of the following > Roland Sample CD-ROMs for sale? > > L-CDP-03 > L-CDP-04 > L-CDP-05 > L-CDP-06 > L-CDP-10 > L-CDP-11 > L-CDP-13 > > L-CDC-01 > > L-CD-702 > > Thanks & regards, > -=Glyn=- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > > Sent: 17 January 2002 04:15 > > To: Glyn; Sampler Group > > Subject: Re: sgroup Roland sample CD's > > > > > > Yes, but call the store first and see what they have - although the > > Orchestral Winds CD is advertised I'd be very surprised if they actually > > had it in stock. I called both stores several times over the summer and > > they never had one, and according to them they weren't getting in any > > more of the old stock from Roland. > > > > But I did buy everything they have - overall I'm very happy with the > > Roland CDs, ESPECIALLY for $29 a pop. > > > > Jesse > > > > Glyn wrote: > > > > > > Why copy when you can get genuine Roland sample CD's at unbelievable > > > prices... > > > > > > http://www.westlamusic.com/wlam/events/cd/roland.html > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 14:51:43 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9100>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:51:37 -0500 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9100>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:51:31 -0500 Received: from user-2ive149.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.4.137] helo=mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16RIZA-0001xE-00; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:51:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3C472AEB.BDAC59A7@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 14:50:03 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glyn , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Roland sample CD's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I think Orchestral Winds is L-CDP-8. I'm not selling any of my sample CDs but be sure to check out ebay. Some time ago there was someone who was auctioning off four or five Roland CDs. There're tons of sample CDs on ebay, especially in Akai or wav. file format. I found a Greytsounds Hammond B-3 CD in Roland format very cheap there. In my experience, you have to be creative using the ebay search, though. Sometimes "Roland AND sample AND CD" won't find anything, but searching using some other words will find you a Roland sample CD or two. Jesse Glyn wrote: > > What was the Roland Model Number for the Orchestral Winds CD Jesse? > > Being a collector do you or anyone else here have any of the following > Roland Sample CD-ROMs for sale? > > L-CDP-03 > L-CDP-04 > L-CDP-05 > L-CDP-06 > L-CDP-10 > L-CDP-11 > L-CDP-13 > > L-CDC-01 > > L-CD-702 > > Thanks & regards, > -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 15:24:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:24:42 -0500 Received: from mail.netsurf.de ([194.195.64.32]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:24:32 -0500 Received: from tracery ([195.179.188.100]) by mail.netsurf.de (Netscape Messaging Server 4.1) with SMTP id GQ3ND300.I9Y for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:24:39 +0100 Message-ID: <004101c19f94$9a9ad8a0$6487fea9@tracery> From: "=?iso-8859-1?B?R/Z0eg==?=" To: Subject: sgroup S 750 newbie questions!!!!! Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:21:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello to all, my name is Götz Kretschmann and I´m new in this group with a few questions and I would be very glad if you find the time to answer. A friend of me ask me to buy his S 750, and now I´m sitting alone with this amazing piece of hardware in my studio to check this black lady. Now my questions: 1. All MO Media is prepared with system 2.23. I found a version 2.25, but whatever I try (sdisk or floppyimage) the S750 refuses to boot correctly. It always starts to countdown from 26 to 0 and again without stoping. Where´s my failure? 2. I tried to dump a sample without success via midi into the sampler. I´m always getting an error adress failure from the sampler. A dumprequest from my computer works fine instead. Where is my failure? 3. Is there another way to transport samples from the computer into the S750 (SCSI or Disk) ? 4. The price! We were talking about 500,- ? (Euro) Is this a fair price for a S750 with 18 MB, Turbooption installed, an ugly old Color monitor and a Syquest MO Drive with 10 medias? Thanks in advance, greetings to all, Götz. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Götz Kretschmann Tracer Y´s Wonderland @ Home: http://members.tripod.de/TracerY/ Musik: http://www.virtual-volume.com/artist/tracer_y write to : g.kretschmann@netsurf.de - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 15:34:50 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:34:42 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:34:39 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD275BD1A for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15469 for <>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:34:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C473551.000001.09467@statler> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:34:25 -0500 From: blincoln To: Subject: Re: sgroup Roland sample CD's X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Of course be careful to buy from reputable people so you don't end up with a CDR or something =). Jesse Segovia wrote: > I think Orchestral Winds is L-CDP-8. I'm not selling any of my sample > CDs but be sure to check out ebay. Some time ago there was someone who > was auctioning off four or five Roland CDs. There're tons of sample CDs > on ebay, especially in Akai or wav. file format. I found a Greytsounds > Hammond B-3 CD in Roland format very cheap there. In my experience, you > have to be creative using the ebay search, though. Sometimes Roland > AND sample AND CD won't find anything, but searching using some other > words will find you a Roland sample CD or two. > > Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 17:49:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9100>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:49:06 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9100>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:49:02 -0500 Received: from user-2ive37d.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.12.237] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16RLL8-0002bs-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:48:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3C47548F.D77DA042@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 17:47:43 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Samples CDs on Clearance at Guitar Center Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk 'Just got back from Guitar Center. They have a bunch of sample CDs on clearance sale. Unfortunately, most of them are some software sampler or audio or wav. file format. They had a bunch from a company called Zero-G, distributed by EastWest (soundsonlines.com) They had several audio CDs on sale in the 19.99 to 29.99 range, including ones called 'Twisted City,' 'N.Y. CutZ' and 'Malice in Wonderland.' This last one is also available in Akai format but the CDs themselves said nothing about format and the guy was reluctant to let me bring them back opened for a full refund if they're the wrong format (although he would have if I pushed him). They also had one that seemed to be an Akai S-5000/S-6000 library sampler. It said the CD was in wav. format for the Akai S-5000 and S-6000. The guy assured me it would work the same as an Akai S-1000 format CD so convert load would work but it sounds as though it's just simple wav. files with extra stuff for the higher end Akai samplers, which I assume can read and write wav. files. Finally, has anyone heard of a CD called 'Dance Mega Synth?' That one comes with an audio CD and a CD in both Akai and Emulator format. The demo at soundsonline.com is pretty lame, though. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 18:04:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:04:11 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:04:01 -0500 Received: from user-2ive37d.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.12.237] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16RLZd-0004ST-00; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:03:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3C475815.E883BFD1@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:02:45 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blincoln , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Roland sample CD's References: <3C473551.000001.09467@statler> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk blincoln wrote: > > Of course be careful to buy from reputable people so you don't > end up with a CDR or something =). 'Hadn't thought of that. The only one I've bought from ebay so far was actually from the manufacturer, who apparently puts them up for auction occasionally to stimulate interest. I asked this before, but does anybody know of a company called NiceBeats, and their series of sampled synth CDs called SynthLine? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 18:16:41 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9100>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:16:32 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9100>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:16:28 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960DFBCB6 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA32394 for >; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:16:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C475B4A.000001.12975@statler> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:16:26 -0500 From: blincoln To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Roland sample CD's X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk It's kind of sad, but it appears to be a pretty big problem (although maybe not so much now that it's against eBay rules to openly sell CDRs). All the time on there I see bootleg Alesis D4 discs (which may or may not be CDRs, but are definitely not licensed). Jesse Segovia wrote: > 'Hadn't thought of that. The only onÉ > actually from the manufacturer, who apparently puts them up for auction > occasionally to stimulate interest. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 17 18:58:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:58:04 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9101>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:57:54 -0500 Received: from user-2ive37d.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.12.237] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16RMPi-0001Qv-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:57:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3C4764B0.1F8394AD@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:56:33 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup FYI: [Fwd: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Huge=A0Drum?= Sale!] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A60813C8AE719BC6AFA1B6F1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A60813C8AE719BC6AFA1B6F1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure that 10% qualifies as a HUGE sale, but ... 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From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 18 01:18:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-1990>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:18:17 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-1989>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:18:07 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0I6Hu777264; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:17:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 01:17:56 -0500 Message-Id: <200201180617.g0I6Hu777264@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: glyn@who.net, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Postscript labels - Roland_labels.zip Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | From sgroup-owner@hugin.uunet.ca Thu Jan 17 07:16:46 2002 | From: "Glyn" | To: "S760 Mailing List" | Subject: sgroup Postscript labels - Roland_labels.zip | Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:13:28 -0500 | | I just downloaded the above file from the sgroup archive which contains | R1-R8.ps files. | | I have a HP 6MP postscript printer...but excuse my ignorance...how do I | actually print these files? It depends on what kind of computer you're using - you need a way to send a raw postscript file to your printer. I'm a UNIX geek, so I just use "lpr". In the old DOS days one could copy file.ps prn: but that's less likely to work under windows. Here's some hints: http://www.tucs.fi/Research/Series/instructions/postscript.html http://www-pcs.fnal.gov/printing/pc-ps-print/ Cheers John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 18 05:09:33 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-1989>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:09:24 -0500 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-1989>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:09:14 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16RVxD-000AwS-0K; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:08:59 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "Franz Stadler - Sun Professional Services Germany - Munich" , , Subject: RE: sgroup Postscript labels - Roland_labels.zip Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:09:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200201180801.JAA06987@sr-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Wow...thanks Franz! Now if only Roland could support their products like that...:-) Thanks & regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: Franz Stadler - Sun Professional Services Germany - Munich > [mailto:franz@sr-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM] > Sent: 18 January 2002 08:02 > To: glyn@who.net; sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; jsellens@generalconcepts.com > Subject: Re: sgroup Postscript labels - Roland_labels.zip > > > Ok, I found them easily and converted them to pdf, hope this helps. > John, please put them into the archive as well. > > Franz > > ======================================================================== > Franz Stadler Tel: (++49 89) 46008-2683 > Consultant Fax: (++49 89) 46008-2583 > > Sun Microsystems GmbH > Sonnenallee 1 > D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten > Germany > mailto:franz.stadler@sun.com > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 18 05:16:04 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-1989>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:15:54 -0500 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-1989>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:15:48 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16RW3m-000C0l-0K for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:15:46 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "S760 Mailing List" Subject: sgroup S550 -> S760 question Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:15:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have only just bought my S760...I know...I know...years too late...:-) and was wondering if/how I could use the S550 samples in the archive? I cannot read the system disk in the PC so suspect I would be unable to copy the *.out file to a floppy. As MIDI compatibility is rumoured to be unworkable with the PC how do I get samples onto floppy for the S760? Any other S760 tips would be much appreciated. Thank you. Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 18 08:39:35 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-1990>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:39:27 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-1990>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:39:24 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0IDdJw90574 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:39:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from patan.sun.com ([192.18.98.43]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-1990>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:54:00 -0500 Received: from sun-gy.Germany.Sun.COM ([129.157.128.5]) by patan.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08291; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:53:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from sr-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM (sr-emuc07-01 [129.157.128.20]) by sun-gy.Germany.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id IAA09245; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:53:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from sr-emuc07-01 (sr-emuc07-01 [129.157.128.20]) by sr-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA40100; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:53:48 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200201180753.IAA40100@sr-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 02:53:48 -0500 From: Franz Stadler - Sun Professional Services Germany - Munich Reply-To: Franz Stadler - Sun Professional Services Germany - Munich Subject: Re: sgroup Postscript labels - Roland_labels.zip To: glyn@who.net, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, jsellens@generalconcepts.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: fc3FNO6Dy/2JcIRodYJwyA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.4 SunOS 5.8 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If doesn't work for you, I can probably produce a *.pdf version, maybe a more convinent format. I'm short in time though and didn't look after those *.ps files since I posted them years ago. Please send me the url and I'll convert them to *.pdf Franz ======================================================================== Franz Stadler Tel: (++49 89) 46008-2683 Consultant Fax: (++49 89) 46008-2583 Sun Microsystems GmbH Sonnenallee 1 D-85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Germany mailto:franz.stadler@sun.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 18 08:40:17 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-1990>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:40:08 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-1990>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:39:47 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0IDdYt90580 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:39:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.sun.com [192.9.25.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-1989>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 03:01:52 -0500 Received: from sun-gy.Germany.Sun.COM ([129.157.128.5]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA06564; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 00:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from sr-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM (sr-emuc07-01 [129.157.128.20]) by sun-gy.Germany.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/ENSMAIL,v2.1p1) with ESMTP id JAA10427; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:01:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from sr-emuc07-01 (sr-emuc07-01 [129.157.128.20]) by sr-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA06987; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:01:43 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200201180801.JAA06987@sr-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 03:01:43 -0500 From: Franz Stadler - Sun Professional Services Germany - Munich Reply-To: Franz Stadler - Sun Professional Services Germany - Munich Subject: Re: sgroup Postscript labels - Roland_labels.zip To: glyn@who.net, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, jsellens@generalconcepts.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/mixed; BOUNDARY=Litter_of_Pups_389_000 X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.4 SunOS 5.8 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --Litter_of_Pups_389_000 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 5X7I0ksPBMbEZvnx1yTong== Ok, I found them easily and converted them to pdf, hope this helps. John, please put them into the archive as well. 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From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 18 08:45:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-1990>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:45:10 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-1989>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:45:04 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0IDiRc90792; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:44:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:44:27 -0500 Message-Id: <200201181344.g0IDiRc90792@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: franz@sr-emuc07-01.Germany.Sun.COM, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Postscript labels - Roland_labels.zip Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | Ok, I found them easily and converted them to pdf, hope this helps. | John, please put them into the archive as well. | | Franz Done - the file will show up over night - thanks! 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From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 18 08:48:45 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-1989>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:48:36 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-1990>; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:48:25 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0IDmDU90920; Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:48:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:48:13 -0500 Message-Id: <200201181348.g0IDmDU90920@gc0.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: glyn@who.net, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S550 -> S760 question Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | From: "Glyn" | Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 05:15:54 -0500 | | I have only just bought my S760...I know...I know...years too late...:-) and | was wondering if/how I could use the S550 samples in the archive? | | I cannot read the system disk in the PC so suspect I would be unable to copy | the *.out file to a floppy. | | As MIDI compatibility is rumoured to be unworkable with the PC how do I get | samples onto floppy for the S760? See the sdisk*.* files in http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/samples/Roland/ReadMes/ and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/hints.html Cheers John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 20 13:19:19 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-792>; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:19:15 -0500 Received: from sirppi.helsinki.fi ([128.214.205.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-792>; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:18:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by sirppi.helsinki.fi (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0KIIs013993 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 20:18:54 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: sirppi.helsinki.fi: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:18:53 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: sgroup How to transport? In-Reply-To: <004101c19f94$9a9ad8a0$6487fea9@tracery> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, G=F6tz wrote: > Is there another way to transport samples from the computer into the > S750 (SCSI or Disk)? G=F6tz, =09Some of your questions has already been answered. But the question regarding data transfer methods is still open. Since I am also in the same position as you, closing in on the basic facts, I will focus on this topic by stating a few assumtions. Since my knowledge is very limited, I need to also state some questions. 1. Shared SCSI disk The most easy way is to have a SCSI port on your computer attached to a SCSI hard disk or Iomega ZIP disk. From this disk you can have the SCSI cable continue over to your S760 SCSI port. In this scenario your computer needs to be situated rather close as the SCSI cable usually can only be very short. Q: Is the file format on a shared SCSI disk the same as the file format on the PC? Is it FAT32? 2. ZIP removeable disks The S760 accepts Iomega ZIP 100 MB removable disks attached to the SCSI port. In this scenario you could have a second ZIP disk station on your PC. This seems to be a nice way to make backups as well. Note that as far as I know the S760 accepts only the 100 MB disks and not the bigger alternatives (ZIP 250 MB or the Iomega JAZ disk station). Q: Is it correct that the file format in this case is _not_ the same on the S760 as on the PC? When I attached a ZIP disk station with a preformatted 100 MB disk, the S760 needed to format the disk in order to use it. If the file format is different, how can I copy data from/on the PC and take the disk over to the S760? 3. Burn CD-R / CD-RW disks This is almost the same scenario as in alternative 2 above. Still this seems to be cost effective only if you are using CD-RW. Q: (The same question as in alternative 2.) 4. Transfer via MIDI cable. Apparently it is possible to transfer other than MIDI data over the same cable. I have not tested this but it seems to be rather slow. jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Jan 20 15:50:48 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-792>; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:50:40 -0500 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-792>; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:50:37 -0500 Received: from [217.87.116.89] (helo=[217.87.116.89]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (Exim 4.00 #56) id 16SOuy-0006MG-00; Sun, 20 Jan 2002 21:50:20 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1624) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:53:13 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup How to transport? From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: Jussi Piekkala , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I just ran into a program called TransferStation anyone can share any infos on this? Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen > Von: Jussi Piekkala > Datum: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 13:18:53 -0500 > An: > Betreff: sgroup How to transport? >=20 > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, G=F6tz wrote: >=20 >> Is there another way to transport samples from the computer into the >> S750 (SCSI or Disk)? >=20 > G=F6tz, > Some of your questions has already been answered. But the question > regarding data transfer methods is still open. Since I am also in the sam= e > position as you, closing in on the basic facts, I will focus on this topi= c > by stating a few assumtions. Since my knowledge is very limited, I need t= o > also state some questions. >=20 > 1. Shared SCSI disk >=20 > The most easy way is to have a SCSI port on your computer attached to a > SCSI hard disk or Iomega ZIP disk. From this disk you can have the SCSI > cable continue over to your S760 SCSI port. In this scenario your compute= r > needs to be situated rather close as the SCSI cable usually can only be > very short. >=20 > Q: Is the file format on a shared SCSI disk the same as the file format o= n > the PC? Is it FAT32? >=20 > 2. ZIP removeable disks >=20 > The S760 accepts Iomega ZIP 100 MB removable disks attached to the SCSI > port. In this scenario you could have a second ZIP disk station on your > PC. This seems to be a nice way to make backups as well. Note that as far > as I know the S760 accepts only the 100 MB disks and not the bigger > alternatives (ZIP 250 MB or the Iomega JAZ disk station). >=20 > Q: Is it correct that the file format in this case is _not_ the same on > the S760 as on the PC? When I attached a ZIP disk station with a > preformatted 100 MB disk, the S760 needed to format the disk in order to > use it. If the file format is different, how can I copy data from/on the > PC and take the disk over to the S760? >=20 > 3. Burn CD-R / CD-RW disks >=20 > This is almost the same scenario as in alternative 2 above. Still this > seems to be cost effective only if you are using CD-RW. >=20 > Q: (The same question as in alternative 2.) >=20 > 4. Transfer via MIDI cable. >=20 > Apparently it is possible to transfer other than MIDI data over the same > cable. I have not tested this but it seems to be rather slow. >=20 > jp > _________________________________________________________________________= __ > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 > http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 >=20 >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 22 00:23:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-23312>; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:23:14 -0500 Received: from siaag1ad.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-23313>; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:23:04 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id AAA26344 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:23:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 00:22:47 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup akai's? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200201220022_MC3-EEE1-C2BA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anyone here use any of the new AKAIs? I am curious what the architecture is on them compared to Rolands. The new Z4 and z8 support ak.sys which allows sample and config editing o= n your PC. Seems very nice and a lot like having a screen with the s760. Anyone have any comments? The dark side is looking interesting.. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 22 03:41:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-23312>; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:41:12 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-23312>; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:41:08 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.185]) by tweakhead.com ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:41:01 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup akai's? Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:41:37 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <101168886101@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Anyone here use any of the new AKAIs? >I am curious what the architecture is on them compared to Rolands. >The new Z4 and z8 support ak.sys which allows sample and config editing on >your PC. Seems very nice and a lot like having a screen with the s760. > >Anyone have any comments? For the way I work, the day and age of the hardware sampler is over. I will still get a used S-760 at some point because of what I have done with my DJ-70mkII (I am selling it), but with the release of things like NI Kontakt, softsamplers will be the way to go. cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 22 03:44:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-23313>; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:44:12 -0500 Received: from richardson.uni2.net ([130.227.52.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-23313>; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:44:06 -0500 Received: from minpc (p453-70.ppp.get2net.dk [195.47.133.70]) by richardson.uni2.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id g0M8hwu19952; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:43:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c1a321$446c96e0$46852fc3@minpc> From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars-Peder_N._B=F8gh?=" To: "dennis barton" , References: <200201220022_MC3-EEE1-C2BA@compuserve.com> Subject: Sv: sgroup akai's? Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 03:46:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I bought a used Akai S2000 a year ago and uses it with the Akai MESA = software. I thinnk it functions very fine. I havden't tryed the ak.sys, = so I do not know if there's huge difrencies in the functionality when = one compares. I can fly samples to and from the PC without any problems = - and i wav format. But I stil love my trusty S50 and its nice to take = with you to a gig. I use my samplers primary to sample and play = church(pipe)-organ and sequencing orchestral sounds (the S2000). And yes, it's very much like having a screen on the Roland equipment. = The nice ting with the Roland samplers are, that you do not need to take = the PC with you. cheers, Nyrup. :o) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dennis barton To: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 6:22 AM Subject: sgroup akai's? Anyone here use any of the new AKAIs? I am curious what the architecture is on them compared to Rolands. The new Z4 and z8 support ak.sys which allows sample and config editing = on your PC. Seems very nice and a lot like having a screen with the s760. Anyone have any comments? The dark side is looking interesting.. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 23 15:52:11 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19333>; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:52:03 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19333>; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:51:59 -0500 Received: from user-2ive2ti.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.11.178] helo=mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16TUN3-00031J-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:51:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3C4F2254.48C5DB6C@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:51:32 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Yamaha TX816/DX-7 Samples, Anyone? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of any really good sources for Yamaha DX-7/TX816 samples available in Roland or Akai format (heck, even wav. files would be OK)? I've recently found some Yamaha TX816 synth modules available at a pretty good price and although I really don't need this unit, the idea of being able to load eight different modules with some of the thousands of publicly available DX-7 patches and layering them together makes me weak in the knees. Of course, if I had a very good source of DX-7 samples I could do the same thing with my S-760 (not with the same amount of polyphony, though). Thanks in advance. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 25 14:36:24 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-760>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:36:16 -0500 Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-760>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:36:10 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0m0.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.192] helo=mindspring.com) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UC8s-00000u-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:36:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3C51B397.3CAACE9C@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:35:51 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Roland Jazz Composer CD Available on Ebay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I don't know anything about the seller here but in case West LA Music no longer has the Jazz Composer CD (that's where I bought mine for $29.99), here it is on ebay, currently for $20.00: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1506270243 By the way, this is a really good CD which features thirteen different volumes of samples, each for a different style of jazz like Big Band, Samba, Dixieland, 90's Fusion, etc. Also included is an audio track made with the samples in each volume, and a floppy disk containing all the MIDI files used on each track, so you can do each track yourself on your own sequencer. Pretty cool! BTW, somewhere on the web there's a list of Roland sample CDs which includes at least one more volume of Composer Series CDs, something like Dance Music. 'Anybody know anything about this one? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 25 15:32:21 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193713-759>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:32:18 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-759>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:32:07 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16UD0y-0006dd-4f; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:32:01 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "S760 Mailing List" , "Jesse Segovia" Subject: RE: sgroup Yamaha TX816/DX-7 Samples, Anyone? Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:32:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3C4F2254.48C5DB6C@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Can't actually answer your question but I have the Yamaha PLG-100DX piggy backed to my SW1000XG... It can output digitally through the SW1000XG so I could connect it digitally to the S-760 Any ideas on how to sample this way would be much appreciated - the PLG100-DX has 912 preset voices and I have only just got the S-760 so it will take time...:-( I am a sucker for those earlier sounds (I also have an M1) and was at one point looking for a D550 - now I have the sampler do you or anyone else know if there any D550 samples available? I have also just got Chicken Systems Translator and am trying to get to grips with that also... Regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Jesse Segovia > Sent: 23 January 2002 20:52 > To: Sampler Group > Subject: sgroup Yamaha TX816/DX-7 Samples, Anyone? > > > Does anyone know of any really good sources for Yamaha DX-7/TX816 > samples available in Roland or Akai format (heck, even wav. files would > be OK)? > > I've recently found some Yamaha TX816 synth modules available at a > pretty good price and although I really don't need this unit, the idea > of being able to load eight different modules with some of the thousands > of publicly available DX-7 patches and layering them together makes me > weak in the knees. > > Of course, if I had a very good source of DX-7 samples I could do the > same thing with my S-760 (not with the same amount of polyphony, > though). > > Thanks in advance. > > Jesse > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 25 15:32:25 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-759>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:32:17 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-759>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:32:07 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16UD0y-0006dd-0X for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 20:32:00 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "Sampler Group" Subject: RE: sgroup Roland Jazz Composer CD Available on Ebay Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:32:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3C51B397.3CAACE9C@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk He may have bought them all off of West LA Music as they have none left...he just sold one for $65 although West LA Music were selling for $99 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1503422761 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1500667218 Can still buy them new for $49.95 or may be lucky and get a bargain like you from eBay! Actually that seller has loads of music related items for sale... Never heard of Dance samples though...can you remember where you found the link you mentioned? Regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Jesse Segovia > Sent: 25 January 2002 19:36 > To: Sampler Group > Subject: sgroup Roland Jazz Composer CD Available on Ebay > > > I don't know anything about the seller here but in case West LA Music no > longer has the Jazz Composer CD (that's where I bought mine for $29.99), > here it is on ebay, currently for $20.00: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1506270243 > > By the way, this is a really good CD which features thirteen different > volumes of samples, each for a different style of jazz like Big Band, > Samba, Dixieland, 90's Fusion, etc. Also included is an audio track > made with the samples in each volume, and a floppy disk containing all > the MIDI files used on each track, so you can do each track yourself on > your own sequencer. Pretty cool! > > BTW, somewhere on the web there's a list of Roland sample CDs which > includes at least one more volume of Composer Series CDs, something like > Dance Music. 'Anybody know anything about this one? > > Jesse > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 25 16:19:29 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-759>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:19:26 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-759>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:19:23 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0m0.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.192] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UDkf-0004vI-00; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:19:13 -0500 Message-ID: <3C51CBC0.7186163B@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:18:56 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glyn , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Roland Jazz Composer CD Available on Ebay References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Glyn wrote: > He may have bought them all off of West LA Music as they have none left...he > just sold one for $65 although West LA Music were selling for $99 Really??!! I bought mine in the summer from West LA for $29.99, same as all the other old Roland CDs. Did they raise their prices on some of them? > Never heard of Dance samples though...can you remember where you found the > link you mentioned? I'll have to look for it. I think it was on some Roland-related site like Lil-Chips or something. I called Sweetwater or some other store and they couldn't find anything on it, so it may have been something Roland announced or considered but never actually produced. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 25 16:33:36 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-760>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:33:27 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-760>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:33:21 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0m0.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.192] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UDyJ-0004Du-00; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:33:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3C51CF0F.6092FD7C@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:33:03 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glyn CC: S760 Mailing List Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX816/DX-7 Samples, Anyone? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Glyn wrote: > > Can't actually answer your question but I have the Yamaha PLG-100DX piggy > backed to my SW1000XG... > > It can output digitally through the SW1000XG so I could connect it digitally > to the S-760 So this is an FM synthesis daughter card for Yamaha's music PC board, right? How does it sounds? What's it like loading sounds into it and triggering them? Man, I used to love all that FM stuff Scritti Politti used to do. > Any ideas on how to sample this way would be much appreciated - the > PLG100-DX has 912 preset voices and I have only just got the S-760 so it > will take time...:-( It sounds as though you have the S-760 expansion board with the SPDIF inputs, right? Can you go directly from the digital out of the PC card into the 760's SPDIF ins? => I am a sucker for those earlier sounds (I also have an M1) and was at one > point looking for a D550 - now I have the sampler do you or anyone else know > if there any D550 samples available? Nicebeats has a sample disk in wav. or Akai format of the Roland D-770, which I've never heard. I assume it's a beefed up D-50/550 which will play all D-50 stuff in addition to ... ? I don't know anything at all about Nicebeats, other than what I see occasionally on ebay. I've sent them several emails asking about their stuff but they've never responded. A bunch of their synthline CDs were there going for about $4 each last time I checked (they're gone now). Yes, I love all that old stuff. I used to own a Roland MKS-70, MKS-80, Jupiter-6, MT-32 and a Yamaha TX-802. Boy, do I regret selling them. As I mentioned in an earlier post, before I sold them I made sure I sampled all the patches I was using in my sequences but that was just a handful; I didn't sample the MKS-80 at all! I should've made myself sample each and every patch in those things before I sold them - I had enough floppy disks to do it but I was just lazy. 8-( > I have also just got Chicken Systems Translator and am trying to get to > grips with that also... How does this work for you? Can it take a 16-bit wav. file and dump it directly into your S-760? I've got gigs worth of wav. files downloaded from the net, but so far little time, no storage media and no good transfer tool to move them into my S-760. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 25 16:43:46 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-759>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:43:40 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-759>; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:43:30 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0m0.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.192] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16UE86-0001eY-00; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:43:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3C51D16E.7D9E81@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:43:10 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glyn , Sampler Group Subject: Nicebeats website [Re: sgroup Yamaha TX816/DX-7 Samples, Anyone?] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey, what do you know? I finally found that Nicebeats website, in German, of course: 8-( http://www.nicebeats.de/homepage_frameset.htm - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 12:12:41 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:12:32 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:12:28 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id JAA06345; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma006343; Mon, 28 Jan 02 09:21:53 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0SHCAe17514 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 12:12:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:49:04 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([64.230.171.173]) by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20020128154859.CLZI3155.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@[192.168.0.2]> for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:48:59 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:47:56 -0500 Subject: sgroup dj70mkII scsi cdrom compatibility list? From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?qSBoIHIgaSBzIHQgbyBwIGggZSByIFQgeSBsIGUgrg==?= To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Could someone please direct me to a list of compatible scsi cdroms for my unit! Thankx - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 16:37:08 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:36:59 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:36:57 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.118.34]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020128213652.HOCU3409.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:36:52 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c1a843$d67d5de0$2276580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup I got them. Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 16:36:24 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1A819.ECB4B880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1A819.ECB4B880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everyone, I recently received my Roland Sample Discs off of Ebay. If you all = remember correctly, I was able to get the Roland Rhythm Section Vol. 1 = disc, Roland Sampling Showcase and Roland Preview Disc CDs for around = $31. Good investment indeed. I've had the chance to preview the Preview = Disc and was disappointed. Many of the samples on the Preview Disc were = straight from the Rhythm Section CD. Anything that was worth checking = out was given in the form of a DEMO or LOOP. No multisamples from most = of the third party stuff. There were some multisamples from third party = manufacturers, but not enough to satisfy even the most lenient of sample = library gurus. The sampling showcase was a disappointment to me since the entire disc = was an audio CD. Not worth much to me, but I will keep in none the less. = I'll continue to update you with my findings. Ask any questions if you = feel obliged to do so. Later, Harold Everton, Jr. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1A819.ECB4B880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Everyone,
 
I recently received my Roland Sample = Discs off of=20 Ebay. If you all remember correctly, I was able to get the Roland Rhythm = Section=20 Vol. 1 disc, Roland Sampling Showcase and Roland Preview Disc CDs for = around=20 $31. Good investment indeed. I've had the chance to preview the Preview = Disc and=20 was disappointed. Many of the samples on the Preview Disc were straight = from the=20 Rhythm Section CD. Anything that was worth checking out was given in the = form of=20 a DEMO or LOOP. No multisamples from most of the third party stuff. = There were=20 some multisamples from third party manufacturers, but not = enough to=20 satisfy even the most lenient of sample library gurus.
 
The sampling showcase was a = disappointment to me=20 since the entire disc was an audio CD. Not worth much to me, but I will = keep in=20 none the less.
 
I'll continue to update you with my = findings. Ask=20 any questions if you feel obliged to do so.
 
Later,
Harold Everton, Jr.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C1A819.ECB4B880-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 17:05:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:05:15 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:05:09 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0an.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.87] helo=mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16VJtY-0000lf-00; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:04:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3C55CAEF.3C59F00E@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:04:31 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup I got them. References: <001a01c1a843$d67d5de0$2276580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk What kind of stuff is on the showcase? What a drag it's not in Roland format. 8-( 'Anybody else found any interesting sampling CDs lately? Jesse > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > The sampling showcase was a disappointment to me since the entire disc > was an audio CD. Not worth much to me, but I will keep in none the > less. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 17:09:00 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:08:53 -0500 Received: from zoesis.com ([63.220.57.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:08:38 -0500 Received: from triton.zoesis.com (triton.zoesis.com [63.220.57.41]) by zoesis.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0SM8Yt184941 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:08:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020128170436.03ed4ec0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: mike@zoesis.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 17:05:11 -0500 To: From: Mike Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup I got them. In-Reply-To: <001a01c1a843$d67d5de0$2276580c@epu1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_4103069==_.ALT" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --=====================_4103069==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >disappointed. Many of the samples on the Preview Disc were straight from >the Rhythm Section CD. Anything that was worth checking out was given in >the form of a DEMO or LOOP. No multisamples from most of the third party >stuff. Doesn't this stuff come free with every S-760? M --=====================_4103069==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
disappointed. Many of the samples on the Preview Disc were straight from the Rhythm Section CD. Anything that was worth checking out was given in the form of a DEMO or LOOP. No multisamples from most of the third party stuff.

Doesn't this stuff come free with every S-760? 

M

--=====================_4103069==_.ALT-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 18:10:11 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:10:03 -0500 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:10:00 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16VKuS-000Oiv-0K for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:09:56 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: Subject: RE: sgroup I got them. Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:09:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1A850.E6E10080" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020128170436.03ed4ec0@mail.earthlink.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1A850.E6E10080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suppose it did if you bought the unit from new or the first owner hasn't lost them! Regards, -=Glyn=- -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Mike Shapiro Sent: 28 January 2002 22:05 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup I got them. disappointed. Many of the samples on the Preview Disc were straight from the Rhythm Section CD. Anything that was worth checking out was given in the form of a DEMO or LOOP. No multisamples from most of the third party stuff. Doesn't this stuff come free with every S-760? M ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C1A850.E6E10080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 suppose it did if you bought the unit from new or the first owner hasn't = lost=20 them!
 
Regards,
-=3DGlyn=3D-
-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Mike=20 Shapiro
Sent: 28 January 2002 22:05
To:=20 sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Subject: Re: sgroup I got=20 them.

disappointed. Many of the samples on the Preview Disc were = straight=20 from the Rhythm Section CD. Anything that was worth checking out was = given=20 in the form of a DEMO or LOOP. No multisamples from most of the = third party=20 stuff.

Doesn't this stuff come free with = every=20 S-760? 

M

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From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 19:14:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:14:47 -0500 Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:14:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g0T0ESL04911 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:14:28 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: kruuna.Helsinki.FI: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:14:28 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: S760 Mailing List Subject: sgroup Translator findings In-Reply-To: <3C51CF0F.6092FD7C@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Glyn wrote: > I have also just got Chicken Systems Translator and am trying to get to > grips with that also... Jesse wrote: > How does this work for you? Can it take a 16-bit wav. file and dump it > directly into your S-760? I've got gigs worth of wav. files downloaded > from the net, but so far little time, no storage media and no good > transfer tool to move them into my S-760. Encouraged by the favourable review in S-O-S (Jan. 2002) I ordered the Translator (www.chickensys.com). In the following I will give some comments on my findings. I had three main goals for my project. 1) I wanted to have a fast and easy way to search and audit samples. This goal was achieved. With Translator it is easy to surf and audit your disks and CDs. It also has a logging procedure where a text file is created that you can reference later when you need to search for your samples. 2) I wanted to be able to convert from several formats to Roland format. This goal was also achieved, however the selection of formats is still only in its early stages. It is interesting that on the Translator web pages there is a reference to the quality of conversion that you are able to perform on the S-760. They say that "Roland imports the older S-50/550 format, and does an AWFUL job importing Akai." For sure the Translator performs the conversions fast and with quality. 3) My third and last goal was to be able to store and transport samples from my PC to the S-760. Sadly this goal was not fulfilled. Admittedly one main reason that I bought the Translator was that I was bewildered by the promising statement in S-O-S that "utilities are also included with the package to read, write, and format Akai, Emax, Ensoniq, and Roland formatted floppy disks". The utility in question turned out to be the same good old S-DISK by Nic Grant - with all its well-known quirks. As a comparison I have also used the demo version of CD Extract (www.cdextract.com). This is a less expensive but very similar product. The most significant shortcoming of the CD Extract is that it can not use samples on the hard drive on the PC (at least it did not find my HD). For the S-760 user another minus is that the CD Extract can not convert save to Roland format. Also I noticed that the CD Extract produced audible clicks and artefacts not present with the Translator. The database procedure in the CD Extract seems to be more versatile. jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 19:40:20 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:40:11 -0500 Received: from kruuna.Helsinki.FI (kruuna.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:40:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by kruuna.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id g0T0e4X05369 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:40:04 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: kruuna.Helsinki.FI: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:40:04 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Sampling CDs lately In-Reply-To: <3C55CAEF.3C59F00E@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Jesse Segovia wrote: > Anybody else found any interesting sampling CDs lately? =09Since I am only a beginner using the sampler, I understand that my findings can not compare with the rest of you... But one sampling CD that I discovered just the other day that I am VERY excited about is "Voices of Native America" by Q Up Arts (1996). And above all the CD is in _Roland_format_! (I got it from Time+Space www.timespace.com for 127 UK =A3.) =09The CD contains "Native American and Indigenous Instruments, Percussion and Loops", as it says on the cover. Whatever the producers original intentions, I think the loops are useable on many musical styles. Another nice thing is that the loops are made in such a clever way where the loop is repeating only a part of the sample. This approach makes the loops more natural. Also the included booklet is beautiful and contains interesting facts on the sampled original instruments. jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 20:05:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:05:43 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.50]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:05:37 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.96.157]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020129010533.JHBZ28721.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 01:05:33 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c1a860$fcb176a0$9d60580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup I got them. Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:05:03 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1A837.12DFA980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1A837.12DFA980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What's on the Roland sampling showcase CD?=20 There's lots of stuff. It's all audio. If I had the patience, I'd sample = all of that stuff. I really don't have the time. The release date was = 1994. There are a lot of loops, one hits, fx, drums, brass hits, brass = stabs, vocals, ethnic (namely Latin) conga grooves, sampled choirs, = gospel stuff. There's actually too many things to list. There a = selection from around 54 different sample CDs. I know I may sounds like = a crybaby - This stuff is gold, but I HATE audio CDs. These things are = not my game. I sold my Roland SP202 because I couldn't stand sampling = stuff and setting start and end points. I bought my sampler to take = advantage of multisamples and sample libraries. To give you some insight on what is on the Sampling Showcase, I list = some of the many CDs that are featured on this CD. 1) Funky Element (Time + Space) 2) Mo' Funky Elements 3) David Buffy's Drums 4) DNA 5) Neil Conti's Funky Drums From Hell 6) Sly Dunbar Drum Loops 7) Armando Borg 8) The Rhythm Of Life 9) Alphadance 10) Groove Construction 11) Ethnic=20 12) Clockwork 13) Technotrance 14) Paul Hardcastle 15) Funk Guitar 16) Funk Bass 17) Killer Horns 18) Brass Supersection 19) Ambient Vol. 1 + 2 20) Classical Choirs 21) Bizzare Planet Okay, that's enough. I don't feel like typing every single CD that's = featured. This CD is packed. This CD has at least 9 - 20 loops or hits = from every one of the CDs featured (again, around 54).=20 The Roland Preview Disc is cool as well. This CD has demos and = multisamples from the Bob Clearmountain library and other various Q-Up = Arts, Roland, AMG and Time+Space CDs. In all honesty, I don't have much use for these two CDS. I'd be willing = to trade them for a full out Akai or Roland Drum Sample (like Ilio's = Interactive Drums & Snares or The Drum Doctors, etc). CD. Anyone = interested (I apologize if I violated any Sgroup policy putting these = CDs up for offer). Thanks, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Glyn=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 6:09 PM Subject: RE: sgroup I got them. I suppose it did if you bought the unit from new or the first owner = hasn't lost them! =20 Regards, -=3DGlyn=3D- -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca = [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Mike Shapiro Sent: 28 January 2002 22:05 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup I got them. disappointed. Many of the samples on the Preview Disc were = straight from the Rhythm Section CD. Anything that was worth checking = out was given in the form of a DEMO or LOOP. No multisamples from most = of the third party stuff.=20 Doesn't this stuff come free with every S-760? =20 M ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1A837.12DFA980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What's on the Roland sampling showcase = CD?=20
 
There's lots of stuff. It's all audio. = If I had the=20 patience, I'd sample all of that stuff. I really don't have the time. = The=20 release date was 1994. There are a lot of loops, one hits, fx, drums, = brass=20 hits, brass stabs, vocals, ethnic (namely Latin) conga grooves, sampled = choirs,=20 gospel stuff. There's actually too many things to list. There a = selection from=20 around 54 different sample CDs. I know I may sounds like a crybaby - = This stuff=20 is gold, but I HATE audio CDs. These things are not my game. I sold my = Roland=20 SP202 because I couldn't stand sampling stuff and setting start and end = points.=20 I bought my sampler to take advantage of multisamples and sample=20 libraries.
 
To give you some insight on what is on = the Sampling=20 Showcase, I list some of the many CDs that are featured on this = CD.
 
1) Funky Element (Time + = Space)
2) Mo' Funky Elements
3) David Buffy's Drums
4) DNA
5) Neil Conti's Funky Drums From = Hell
6) Sly Dunbar Drum Loops
7) Armando Borg
8) The Rhythm Of Life
9) Alphadance
10) Groove Construction
11) Ethnic
12) Clockwork
13) Technotrance
14) Paul Hardcastle
15) Funk Guitar
16) Funk Bass
17) Killer Horns
18) Brass Supersection
19) Ambient Vol. 1 + 2
20) Classical Choirs
21) Bizzare Planet
 
Okay, that's enough. I don't feel like = typing every=20 single CD that's featured. This CD is packed. This CD has at least 9 - = 20 loops=20 or hits from every one of the CDs featured (again, around 54). =
 
The Roland Preview Disc is cool as = well. This CD=20 has demos and multisamples from the Bob Clearmountain library and other = various=20 Q-Up Arts, Roland, AMG and Time+Space CDs.
 
In all honesty, I don't have much use = for these two=20 CDS. I'd be willing to trade them for a full out Akai or Roland Drum = Sample=20 (like Ilio's Interactive Drums & Snares or The Drum Doctors, etc). = CD.=20 Anyone interested (I apologize if I violated any Sgroup policy putting = these CDs=20 up for offer).
 
Thanks,
Harold
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Glyn
To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 = 6:09=20 PM
Subject: RE: sgroup I got = them.

I=20 suppose it did if you bought the unit from new or the first owner = hasn't lost=20 them!
 
Regards,
-=3DGlyn=3D-
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uun= et.ca]On=20 Behalf Of Mike Shapiro
Sent: 28 January 2002=20 22:05
To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Sub= ject:=20 Re: sgroup I got them.

disappointed. Many of the samples on the Preview Disc = were straight=20 from the Rhythm Section CD. Anything that was worth checking out = was given=20 in the form of a DEMO or LOOP. No multisamples from most of the = third=20 party stuff.

Doesn't this stuff come free = with every=20 S-760?  =

M

------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1A837.12DFA980-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 20:57:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:57:49 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:57:45 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.114.94]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020129015740.NBGZ3409.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 01:57:40 +0000 Message-ID: <000a01c1a868$44ee0800$5e72580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Roland Preview Disc Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:57:10 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1A83E.5B1499C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1A83E.5B1499C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, Maybe I jumped a little TOO far ahead. The Roland Preview is both = useless and useful at the same time. I hate all of the beat loops (some = people like that stuff, not me). On the other hand, there are two VERY = useful drum kits on here. These drum kits, the Power Ballad and R&B kits = are what I'm talking about! These kits alone put the Roland kits on the = Rhythm Section disc to shame. Since I've owned the XP60 for quite some = time, I've realized that most of the stuff on the drum area of the = Rhythm Section disc are repeats (and we all know Roland used thse sounds = as the base of all of their synths until the XV line, and even that uses = them). Also, the stuff on the Rhythm Section disc (the kits are what I'm = talking about) sound TOO synthesized. The Congas, Asian, Latin (etc) = percussion kits are extremely good though. I've been looking long and hard for a CD with lots of REALISTIC sounding = drum kits with velocity stepped multisamples and the whole nine. I at = least have a little something to add to my recordings now. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1A83E.5B1499C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Okay,
 
Maybe I jumped a little TOO far ahead. = The Roland=20 Preview is both useless and useful at the same time. I hate all of the = beat=20 loops (some people like that stuff, not me). On the other hand, there = are two=20 VERY useful drum kits on here. These drum kits, the Power Ballad and = R&B=20 kits are what I'm talking about! These kits alone put the Roland kits on = the=20 Rhythm Section disc to shame. Since I've owned the XP60 for quite some = time,=20 I've realized that most of the stuff on the drum area of the Rhythm = Section disc=20 are repeats (and we all know Roland used thse sounds as the base of all = of their=20 synths until the XV line, and even that uses them). Also, the stuff on = the=20 Rhythm Section disc (the kits are what I'm talking about) sound TOO = synthesized.=20 The Congas, Asian, Latin (etc) percussion kits are extremely good=20 though.
 
I've been looking long and hard for a = CD with lots=20 of REALISTIC sounding drum kits with velocity stepped multisamples and = the whole=20 nine. I at least have a little something to add to my recordings=20 now.
 
Later,
Harold
 
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From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 21:51:19 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:51:13 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.89]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:51:03 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16VOML-000Cnq-0V for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:50:57 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "S760 Mailing List" Subject: RE: sgroup Translator findings Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:51:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Jussi, I would be interested to know exactly how you were able to log your discs and create a text file. I did not see a way to do that...:-( --- Regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Jussi Piekkala > Sent: 29 January 2002 00:14 > To: S760 Mailing List > Subject: sgroup Translator findings > > > Glyn wrote: > > I have also just got Chicken Systems Translator and am trying to get to > > grips with that also... > > Jesse wrote: > > How does this work for you? Can it take a 16-bit wav. file and dump it > > directly into your S-760? I've got gigs worth of wav. files downloaded > > from the net, but so far little time, no storage media and no good > > transfer tool to move them into my S-760. > > Encouraged by the favourable review in S-O-S (Jan. 2002) I ordered the > Translator (www.chickensys.com). In the following I will give some > comments on my findings. I had three main goals for my project. > > 1) I wanted to have a fast and easy way to search and audit samples. This > goal was achieved. With Translator it is easy to surf and audit your disks > and CDs. It also has a logging procedure where a text file is created that > you can reference later when you need to search for your samples. > > 2) I wanted to be able to convert from several formats to Roland format. > This goal was also achieved, however the selection of formats is still > only in its early stages. It is interesting that on the Translator web > pages there is a reference to the quality of conversion that you are able > to perform on the S-760. They say that "Roland imports the older S-50/550 > format, and does an AWFUL job importing Akai." For sure the Translator > performs the conversions fast and with quality. > > 3) My third and last goal was to be able to store and transport samples > from my PC to the S-760. Sadly this goal was not fulfilled. Admittedly one > main reason that I bought the Translator was that I was bewildered by the > promising statement in S-O-S that "utilities are also included with the > package to read, write, and format Akai, Emax, Ensoniq, and Roland > formatted floppy disks". The utility in question turned out to be the same > good old S-DISK by Nic Grant - with all its well-known quirks. > > As a comparison I have also used the demo version of CD Extract > (www.cdextract.com). This is a less expensive but very similar product. > The most significant shortcoming of the CD Extract is that it can not use > samples on the hard drive on the PC (at least it did not find my HD). For > the S-760 user another minus is that the CD Extract can not convert save > to Roland format. Also I noticed that the CD Extract produced audible > clicks and artefacts not present with the Translator. The database > procedure in the CD Extract seems to be more versatile. > > jp > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 > http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 21:57:07 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:57:00 -0500 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:56:54 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16VOS3-0000wx-0A for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:56:51 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "S760 Mailing List" Subject: sgroup Anyone want to trade original Roland sample CD's? Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:56:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If anyone is interested I have a couple of original Roland sample CD's I may consider trading for similar. Roland L-CD701 Rhythm Section Vol 1 Roland SV-SP70-01 Library Preview Disc Anyone? --- Regards, -=Glyn=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 21:59:48 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:59:42 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([208.52.68.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:59:27 -0500 Received: from [208.52.75.33] ([208.52.75.33]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27284; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:59:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000a01c1a868$44ee0800$5e72580c@epu1> References: <000a01c1a868$44ee0800$5e72580c@epu1> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:01:16 -0500 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Roland Preview Disc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 8:57 pm -0500 28/1/2002, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >Okay, > >Maybe I jumped a little TOO far ahead. The Roland Preview is both >useless and useful at the same time. I hate all of the beat loops >(some people like that stuff, not me). On the other hand, there are >two VERY useful drum kits on here. These drum kits, the Power Ballad >and R&B kits are what I'm talking about! These kits alone put the >Roland kits on the Rhythm Section disc to shame. Since I've owned >the XP60 for quite some time, I've realized that most of the stuff >on the drum area of the Rhythm Section disc are repeats (and we all >know Roland used thse sounds as the base of all of their synths >until the XV line, and even that uses them). Also, the stuff on the >Rhythm Section disc (the kits are what I'm talking about) sound TOO >synthesized. The Congas, Asian, Latin (etc) percussion kits are >extremely good though. > >I've been looking long and hard for a CD with lots of REALISTIC >sounding drum kits with velocity stepped multisamples and the whole >nine. I at least have a little something to add to my recordings now. > >Later, >Harold > waht I find most useful on that disc is the prosonus orchestral samples and the percussions from roland. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Jan 28 23:02:36 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:02:29 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:02:16 -0500 Received: from smui05.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.91]) by holt.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16VPTI-0002cf-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:02:12 -0500 Received: by smui05.slb.mindspring.net id XAA0000012072; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:02:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:02:11 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Roland Preview Disc Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.10.76 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > On the other hand, there are two > VERY useful drum kits on here. These drum kits, the Power Ballad and R&B > kits are what I'm talking about! Yep, I found those two. VERY nice! Are there any other drum sample CDs out there with this kind of stuff on it? > we all know Roland used thse sounds as the base of all of their > synths until the XV line, and even that uses them). Right. MT-32, D-110, TR-626, S-50 and S-550 sample libraries, Drums & Cymbals CD, even the SPD-20 all use the same drums and cymbals over and over again. Each of these add their own sounds of course but it's amazing how much mileage Roland gets out of the same sounds. I guess the V-Drums are the only thing that really breaks away from all that. 'Anyody know of any V-Drum samples, in ANY format????? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 02:50:04 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:49:55 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:49:44 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0T7nda52232 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:49:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail.san.yahoo.com ([209.132.1.30]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11202>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:04:26 -0500 Received: from audiopc (64.114.175.97) by mail.san.yahoo.com (5.5.056) id 3C55AC26000195A6; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 18:04:15 -0800 Message-ID: <016e01c1a869$127e8b00$6401a8c0@whooshnet.com> Reply-To: "Steve Schow" From: "Steve Schow" To: "Jussi Piekkala" , "S760 Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: sgroup Translator findings Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:02:55 -0500 Organization: Backstage Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Have you tried converting an S-550 disc yet? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jussi Piekkala" To: "S760 Mailing List" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:14 PM Subject: sgroup Translator findings > Glyn wrote: > > I have also just got Chicken Systems Translator and am trying to get to > > grips with that also... > > Jesse wrote: > > How does this work for you? Can it take a 16-bit wav. file and dump it > > directly into your S-760? I've got gigs worth of wav. files downloaded > > from the net, but so far little time, no storage media and no good > > transfer tool to move them into my S-760. > > Encouraged by the favourable review in S-O-S (Jan. 2002) I ordered the > Translator (www.chickensys.com). In the following I will give some > comments on my findings. I had three main goals for my project. > > 1) I wanted to have a fast and easy way to search and audit samples. This > goal was achieved. With Translator it is easy to surf and audit your disks > and CDs. It also has a logging procedure where a text file is created that > you can reference later when you need to search for your samples. > > 2) I wanted to be able to convert from several formats to Roland format. > This goal was also achieved, however the selection of formats is still > only in its early stages. It is interesting that on the Translator web > pages there is a reference to the quality of conversion that you are able > to perform on the S-760. They say that "Roland imports the older S-50/550 > format, and does an AWFUL job importing Akai." For sure the Translator > performs the conversions fast and with quality. > > 3) My third and last goal was to be able to store and transport samples > from my PC to the S-760. Sadly this goal was not fulfilled. Admittedly one > main reason that I bought the Translator was that I was bewildered by the > promising statement in S-O-S that "utilities are also included with the > package to read, write, and format Akai, Emax, Ensoniq, and Roland > formatted floppy disks". The utility in question turned out to be the same > good old S-DISK by Nic Grant - with all its well-known quirks. > > As a comparison I have also used the demo version of CD Extract > (www.cdextract.com). This is a less expensive but very similar product. > The most significant shortcoming of the CD Extract is that it can not use > samples on the hard drive on the PC (at least it did not find my HD). For > the S-760 user another minus is that the CD Extract can not convert save > to Roland format. Also I noticed that the CD Extract produced audible > clicks and artefacts not present with the Translator. The database > procedure in the CD Extract seems to be more versatile. > > jp > ___________________________________________________________________________ > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 > http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 02:50:16 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193713-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:50:05 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:49:54 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0T7npp52251 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 02:49:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mailout06.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.19]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11201>; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:06:55 -0500 Received: from fwd08.sul.t-online.de by mailout06.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16VNfa-0006g1-00; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:06:46 +0100 Received: from 217.5.1.7 (320002653223-0001@[217.5.1.7]) by fwd08.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 16VNfa-1ZWaQKC; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 03:06:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: sgroup S-750 (fwd) From: dermvoll@t-online.de (Michael Voll) Reply-To: To: X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 4.009 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:06:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16VNfa-1ZWaQKC@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 320002653223-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, I have a S-750 with System 772 Vers. 2.18. I downloaded the system Ver. 225 from "Rolandus" but when I try to boot the sampler with the system 225 disk, it reads the system-disk over and over again. Is there anybody out there to help me? Thank you and Greetings=20 Mike (Germany) By the way, how can I get a real good Ac-Piano-Patch, since there is none in the "L7xx"-library=20 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 06:04:03 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:03:56 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.49]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:03:50 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.73]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020129110348.QDJZ13117.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:03:48 +0000 Message-ID: <008c01c1a8b4$8f555b40$4952580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup Roland Preview Disc Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:03:18 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey All, Well this this the quest that I will go on. I'm looking for some sample CDs with good sounding kits like these. I'm going to have to do a serious seach and ask everyone which their favorite drum sample CDs are. There has to be a ton of them out there. Demo CDs don't do a usual good job on demonstrating the potential of CD supplied drum kits (with the exception of the preiview disc, which I guess did what it was supposed to do). Considering that the preview disc came out between 1991 and 1994, there has to be a ton of GOOD sounding drum multisample CDs out there. The POWER BALLAD and R&B GROOVE kits are outstanding enough. Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: Re: sgroup Roland Preview Disc > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > On the other hand, there are two > > VERY useful drum kits on here. These drum kits, the Power Ballad and R&B > > kits are what I'm talking about! > > Yep, I found those two. VERY nice! Are there any other drum sample CDs out there with this kind of stuff on it? > > > we all know Roland used thse sounds as the base of all of their > > synths until the XV line, and even that uses them). > > Right. MT-32, D-110, TR-626, S-50 and S-550 sample libraries, Drums & Cymbals CD, even the SPD-20 all use the same drums and cymbals over and over again. Each of these add their own sounds of course but it's amazing how much mileage Roland gets out of the same sounds. I guess the V-Drums are the only thing that really breaks away from all that. > > 'Anyody know of any V-Drum samples, in ANY format????? > > Jesse > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 06:23:12 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:23:05 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:22:55 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.185]) by tweakhead.com ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:22:49 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Roland Preview Disc Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 06:23:31 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <101230336903@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Well this this the quest that I will go on. I'm looking for some sample CDs >with good sounding kits like these. I'm going to have to do a serious seach >and ask everyone which their favorite drum sample CDs are. There has to be a >ton of them out there. Demo CDs don't do a usual good job on demonstrating >the potential of CD supplied drum kits (with the exception of the preiview >disc, which I guess did what it was supposed to do). > >Considering that the preview disc came out between 1991 and 1994, there has >to be a ton of GOOD sounding drum multisample CDs out there. The POWER >BALLAD and R&B GROOVE kits are outstanding enough. Harold: Consider purchasing NI Battery. The sample CD that comes with it has some wonderful kits on it. True, it is not a Roland disc, so you will have to send some samples over, but it has great sounds, velocity layers, many styles...plus, you'll get a percussion-based softsynth besides ;) cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 07:49:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193713-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:30 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.88]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:19 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16VXhM-000Ba0-0U for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:49:16 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: Subject: RE: sgroup S-750 (fwd) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:17 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <16VNfa-1ZWaQKC@fwd08.sul.t-online.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Try the following link; http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=EW-085 HTH Regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Michael Voll > Sent: 29 January 2002 02:06 > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: sgroup S-750 (fwd) > > > Hi all, > I have a S-750 with System 772 Vers. 2.18. > I downloaded the system Ver. 225 from "Rolandus" > but when I try to boot the sampler with the system > 225 disk, it reads the system-disk over and over again. > Is there anybody out there to help me? > > Thank you and Greetings > Mike (Germany) > > By the way, how can I get a real good Ac-Piano-Patch, > since there is none in the "L7xx"-library > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 07:49:38 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:30 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.88]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:19 -0500 Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16VXhL-000Ba0-0U for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:49:15 +0000 From: "Glyn" To: "S760 Mailing List" Subject: RE: sgroup Translator findings Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:16 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <016e01c1a869$127e8b00$6401a8c0@whooshnet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I believe Translator doesn't yet support S50/550/W30 formats at the moment. Regards, -=Glyn=- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Steve Schow > Sent: 29 January 2002 02:03 > To: Jussi Piekkala; S760 Mailing List > Subject: Re: sgroup Translator findings > > > Have you tried converting an S-550 disc yet? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jussi Piekkala" > To: "S760 Mailing List" > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:14 PM > Subject: sgroup Translator findings > > > > Glyn wrote: > > > I have also just got Chicken Systems Translator and am trying > to get to > > > grips with that also... > > > > Jesse wrote: > > > How does this work for you? Can it take a 16-bit wav. file > and dump it > > > directly into your S-760? I've got gigs worth of wav. files > downloaded > > > from the net, but so far little time, no storage media and no good > > > transfer tool to move them into my S-760. > > > > Encouraged by the favourable review in S-O-S (Jan. 2002) I ordered the > > Translator (www.chickensys.com). In the following I will give some > > comments on my findings. I had three main goals for my project. > > > > 1) I wanted to have a fast and easy way to search and audit > samples. This > > goal was achieved. With Translator it is easy to surf and audit > your disks > > and CDs. It also has a logging procedure where a text file is > created that > > you can reference later when you need to search for your samples. > > > > 2) I wanted to be able to convert from several formats to Roland format. > > This goal was also achieved, however the selection of formats is still > > only in its early stages. It is interesting that on the Translator web > > pages there is a reference to the quality of conversion that > you are able > > to perform on the S-760. They say that "Roland imports the > older S-50/550 > > format, and does an AWFUL job importing Akai." For sure the Translator > > performs the conversions fast and with quality. > > > > 3) My third and last goal was to be able to store and transport samples > > from my PC to the S-760. Sadly this goal was not fulfilled. > Admittedly one > > main reason that I bought the Translator was that I was > bewildered by the > > promising statement in S-O-S that "utilities are also included with the > > package to read, write, and format Akai, Emax, Ensoniq, and Roland > > formatted floppy disks". The utility in question turned out to > be the same > > good old S-DISK by Nic Grant - with all its well-known quirks. > > > > As a comparison I have also used the demo version of CD Extract > > (www.cdextract.com). This is a less expensive but very similar product. > > The most significant shortcoming of the CD Extract is that it > can not use > > samples on the hard drive on the PC (at least it did not find > my HD). For > > the S-760 user another minus is that the CD Extract can not convert save > > to Roland format. Also I noticed that the CD Extract produced audible > > clicks and artefacts not present with the Translator. The database > > procedure in the CD Extract seems to be more versatile. > > > > jp > > > __________________________________________________________________ > _________ > > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: > 191 23100 > > http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 > Diana: 95022414 > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 08:44:52 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:44:44 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f232.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.232]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:44:38 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 05:44:33 -0800 Received: from 195.100.79.97 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:44:33 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.100.79.97] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Translator findings Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:44:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2002 13:44:33.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[157E22E0:01C1A8CB] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Have you successfully converted anything into S-7X0 format with Translator? Haven't checked for updates in a couple of weeks, but whenever i try to convert my Akai CD:s into Roland format, it keeps saying that "translation is not yet supported". How did you do it if you did manage to convert to Roland format? Regards Daniel >From: "Glyn" >To: "S760 Mailing List" >Subject: RE: sgroup Translator findings >Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:16 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [209.167.141.2] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBE1FE58700804004379FD1A78D02BCB40; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 04:50:17 -0800 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193728-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:48 >-0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca (bulk_mailer v1.9); Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:38 >-0500 >Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:30 >-0500 >Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.88]) by >hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:49:19 -0500 >Received: from consultek.demon.co.uk ([193.237.157.139] helo=abit)by >anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1)id >16VXhL-000Ba0-0Ufor sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 12:49:15 +0000 From sgroup-owner@lists.uunet.ca Tue, 29 Jan 2002 04:51:16 -0800 >Message-ID: >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) >In-Reply-To: <016e01c1a869$127e8b00$6401a8c0@whooshnet.com> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >Importance: Normal >Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Precedence: bulk > >I believe Translator doesn't yet support S50/550/W30 formats at the moment. > >Regards, >-=Glyn=- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On > > Behalf Of Steve Schow > > Sent: 29 January 2002 02:03 > > To: Jussi Piekkala; S760 Mailing List > > Subject: Re: sgroup Translator findings > > > > > > Have you tried converting an S-550 disc yet? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jussi Piekkala" > > To: "S760 Mailing List" > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:14 PM > > Subject: sgroup Translator findings > > > > > > > Glyn wrote: > > > > I have also just got Chicken Systems Translator and am trying > > to get to > > > > grips with that also... > > > > > > Jesse wrote: > > > > How does this work for you? Can it take a 16-bit wav. file > > and dump it > > > > directly into your S-760? I've got gigs worth of wav. files > > downloaded > > > > from the net, but so far little time, no storage media and no good > > > > transfer tool to move them into my S-760. > > > > > > Encouraged by the favourable review in S-O-S (Jan. 2002) I ordered the > > > Translator (www.chickensys.com). In the following I will give some > > > comments on my findings. I had three main goals for my project. > > > > > > 1) I wanted to have a fast and easy way to search and audit > > samples. This > > > goal was achieved. With Translator it is easy to surf and audit > > your disks > > > and CDs. It also has a logging procedure where a text file is > > created that > > > you can reference later when you need to search for your samples. > > > > > > 2) I wanted to be able to convert from several formats to Roland >format. > > > This goal was also achieved, however the selection of formats is still > > > only in its early stages. It is interesting that on the Translator web > > > pages there is a reference to the quality of conversion that > > you are able > > > to perform on the S-760. They say that "Roland imports the > > older S-50/550 > > > format, and does an AWFUL job importing Akai." For sure the Translator > > > performs the conversions fast and with quality. > > > > > > 3) My third and last goal was to be able to store and transport >samples > > > from my PC to the S-760. Sadly this goal was not fulfilled. > > Admittedly one > > > main reason that I bought the Translator was that I was > > bewildered by the > > > promising statement in S-O-S that "utilities are also included with >the > > > package to read, write, and format Akai, Emax, Ensoniq, and Roland > > > formatted floppy disks". The utility in question turned out to > > be the same > > > good old S-DISK by Nic Grant - with all its well-known quirks. > > > > > > As a comparison I have also used the demo version of CD Extract > > > (www.cdextract.com). This is a less expensive but very similar >product. > > > The most significant shortcoming of the CD Extract is that it > > can not use > > > samples on the hard drive on the PC (at least it did not find > > my HD). For > > > the S-760 user another minus is that the CD Extract can not convert >save > > > to Roland format. Also I noticed that the CD Extract produced audible > > > clicks and artefacts not present with the Translator. The database > > > procedure in the CD Extract seems to be more versatile. > > > > > > jp > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > _________ > > > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: > > 191 23100 > > > http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 > > Diana: 95022414 > > > > > > > > > - > > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 11:26:49 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:26:40 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:26:37 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id IAA09177; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 08:36:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma009169; Tue, 29 Jan 02 08:35:17 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0TGPbH68730 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 11:25:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:45:21 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-167-153.tnt11.me2.uunet.de [149.225.167.153]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id PAA03960 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 15:45:10 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C56B0DD.EAE7034A@cityweb.de> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 09:25:34 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Roland Preview Disc References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk There's also a nice tenor sax on this CD-ROM. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 13:16:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:16:52 -0500 Received: from zoesis.com ([63.220.57.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:16:39 -0500 Received: from triton.zoesis.com (triton.zoesis.com [63.220.57.41]) by zoesis.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g0TIGVt216305 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:16:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020129131016.03f3f9c0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: mike@zoesis.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:12:57 -0500 To: From: Mike Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup I got them. In-Reply-To: <001801c1a860$fcb176a0$9d60580c@epu1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_76579928==_.ALT" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --=====================_76579928==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > This stuff is gold, but I HATE audio CDs. These things are not my game. > I sold my Roland SP202 because I couldn't stand sampling stuff and > setting start and end points. I bought my sampler to take advantage of > multisamples and sample libraries. > It's worth mentioning that the Gigastudio makes auto-creation of new instrumments from redbook CDs relatively painless. I've been phasing out my 760 for the Gigastudio, using the Translator software to "port" my extensive Roland sample library. Though the transition isn' perfect (I still keep my 760 around for certain sounds that don't quite sound right when translated) the overall experience is worlds better. Just a thought for everyone. The 760 was a fantastic instrument in its day... but its day is on the order of 7-8 years past. M --=====================_76579928==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
 This stuff is gold, but I HATE audio CDs. These things are not my game. I sold my Roland SP202 because I couldn't stand sampling stuff and setting start and end points. I bought my sampler to take advantage of multisamples and sample libraries.
 

It's worth mentioning that the Gigastudio makes auto-creation of new instrumments from redbook CDs relatively painless.

I've been phasing out my 760 for the Gigastudio, using the Translator software to "port" my extensive Roland sample library.  Though the transition isn' perfect (I still keep my 760 around for certain sounds that don't quite sound right when translated) the overall experience is worlds better. 

Just a thought for everyone.  The 760 was a fantastic instrument in its day... but its day is on the order of 7-8 years past. 

M
--=====================_76579928==_.ALT-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 13:55:01 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:54:53 -0500 Received: from TheWorld.com (pcls2.std.com [199.172.62.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:54:42 -0500 Received: from bbm (w208.z208177251.bos-ma.dsl.cnc.net [208.177.251.208]) by TheWorld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA19763 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 13:54:40 -0500 Message-ID: <001d01c1a910$0a7fc0c0$d0fbb1d0@concentric.net> From: "mbranco" To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020129131016.03f3f9c0@mail.earthlink.net> Subject: sgroup 760 showing its age... or maturity Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:58:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1A8CC.FBBDCFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1A8CC.FBBDCFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Just a thought for everyone. The 760 was a fantastic=20 > instrument in its day... but its day is on the order of=20 > 7-8 years past. =20 Amazingly, my two 760s and 750 continue to be relevant (I'd say indispensable) to my scoring-for-picture work. Giga is also a nice way to go in certain situations, but I'd certainly feel the loss, both in terms of the sound library and the ease-of-use, if my Roland samplers weren't available for most projects. I suppose it's a testament to how good the S-series was that it's still a viable (though maybe not first-choice) solution to so many working musicians. - M ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C1A8CC.FBBDCFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Just a = thought for=20 everyone.  The 760 was a fantastic
> = instrument in its=20 day... but its day is on the order of
> 7-8 = years past. =20
 
Amazingly, = my two 760s and=20 750 continue to be relevant
(I'd say = indispensable) to=20 my scoring-for-picture work.
 
Giga is = also a nice=20 way to go in certain situations,
but I'd = certainly feel the=20 loss, both in terms of the
sound = library and the=20 ease-of-use, if my Roland
samplers = weren't available=20 for most projects.
 
I suppose = it's a testament=20 to how good the S-series
was that = it's still a=20 viable (though maybe not
first-choice) solution to=20 so many working musicians.
 
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From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 16:27:53 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:27:47 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:27:36 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0n8.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.2.232] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Vfmk-0005QL-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:27:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5713B2.C3CF69C4@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 16:27:14 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Sample Product Listing from Nicebeats References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The US rep for Nicebeats, the German sample company with all the synth sample CDs, finally replied. The web site is still in German although it is being translated. In the meantime he sent me a product and price listing, in Adobe Acrobat format. Does anyone mind if I send it to the list? It is 106 Kbytes. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 18:34:19 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:34:12 -0500 Received: from vesuri.Helsinki.FI (vesuri.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:34:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by vesuri.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0TNXvU06288 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 01:33:57 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: vesuri.Helsinki.FI: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:33:57 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: RE: sgroup Translator findings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Have you successfully converted anything into S-7X0 format with > Translator? No. Sorry to say, the fact that I can read and audit disks with Translator, doesn't mean it can save in Roland format... I am beginning to realise that there is still an awful lot of whishful thinking included in the retail prize of Translator! The details & status service on the Translator website states: "This page refers to both the older S-700 series samplers and the new XV-5080 sample-playback machine. Translator will support both formats; it will be able to write to the older Roland propritary format disk or CD, and write the new XV-5080 .svd/.svp/.wav format." But for now writing into Roland format has not yet been introduced. jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 18:47:35 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:47:27 -0500 Received: from vesuri.Helsinki.FI (vesuri.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:47:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by vesuri.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0TNlAN20290 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 01:47:10 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: vesuri.Helsinki.FI: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 18:47:10 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: S760 Mailing List Subject: RE: sgroup Translator findings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Glyn wrote: > I would be interested to know exactly how you were able to log your > discs and create a text file. The logging function works in the followin manner: 1) Click on the CD-drive image to activate the drive (the name becomes blue). 2) Click with the RIGHT mouse button on the CD-drive image. From the menu you choose "Log Akai Drive". -- Needless to say, the function does not work with Roland disks... The function produces plenty of small temporary files and one log file that you can save with a suitable name. (It is poor programming as the temporary files are not automaticaly removed.) The log file looks like this: AKAI DRIVE ---------- Partition A NYLON CONCER (S-1000 Volume); 33,16mb NYLON CON 32 (S-1000 Program); 33,15mb NYLON CON 16 (S-1000 Program); 16,09mb NYLON CO HAR (S-1000 Volume); 7,25mb NYL CON HA 8 (S-1000 Program); 7,23mb NYL CON HA 4 (S-1000 Program); 3,67mb Partition B NYLON SPANIS (S-1000 Volume); 33,16mb NYLON SPA 32 (S-1000 Program); 33,15mb NYLON SPA 16 (S-1000 Program); 15,43mb NYLON SP HAR (S-1000 Volume); 7,70mb NYL SPA HA 8 (S-1000 Program); 7,69mb NYL SPA HA 4 (S-1000 Program); 3,92mb ... jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 19:54:06 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:53:59 -0500 Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3851>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:53:52 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1f9.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.233] helo=mindspring.com) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Vj0Y-0000Hl-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:53:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3C574415.F9649DF7@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:53:42 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Dance Mega Synth Sample CD in Akai Format Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk 'Just picked up a new Akai format sample CD on clearance sale, Dance Mega Synth from Best Service. As I wrote before, Guitar Center had tons of sample CDs on clearance; unfortunately few of them were in formats I could use. Dance Mega Synth comes with an audio CD and a CD in Akai and E-MU format; I got it for $29.99 (SoundsOnline has it online for $99.95). I've only gone through two volumes of sounds and so far they're pretty good. Best Service's whole focus seems to be dance and house stuff so the sounds are supposed to be useful for that kind of stuff. The synth sounds are good; they're the processed, layered unidentifiable kind of synthesizer sounds you get from lots of these CDs. Personally, I'd love to have a CD which just contains tons of presets from one or two real workhorses, but anyway ... Most of the synth sounds are just one sample per patch so they get muddy at the bottom and 'chipmunkey' at the top. I also tried the bank of piano sounds - all multi-sampled across the keyboard. Two of the patches are OK sounding acoustic pianos and one is a synth piano which is pretty good. So far, it's a great value for $29.99; I don't know if I would've paid full price for it. I'll listen to the rest when I have time and if my opinion changes I'll post again. Oh, and the convert load time on my S-760 was a LOT worse than my other Akai CD. I guess the samples were bigger so I noticed it a lot more. When I loaded the piano volume, I went out and played with my daughter for a bit and came back and they were STILL loading. Oh well, I'm not gonna use it live. Here's a link to the CD (including very bad demo) on the SoundsOnline web site, and below that is a list of sound categories on the CD. If anyone has any specific questions or wants me to check out any particular sounds, let me know. http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=BS-163 Big Synths Processed Synths Mixed Dance Synths Syn-Voice Rave &Techno Synth Chord House Mixed Dance Chords Chord Single Chord Multi Chord Group Basses Organ Singlke Organ Chords Organ Multi Big Pads Chords Pads High Strings Voice Pads Attack Pads Mini-Pads Piano Multis Piano Chords Piano Groups Pizzi-Multi Pizzi-Groups Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 21:48:14 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-9930>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:48:08 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-9930>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:47:57 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0U2lsK86777 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:47:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from hotmail.com (oe65.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.16.200]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:14:55 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 14:14:45 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [195.92.194.15] From: "Rik Loveridge" To: Subject: sgroup Roland S750 max memory Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 17:14:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C1A912.598DDF60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jan 2002 22:14:45.0190 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B73B660:01C1A912] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C1A912.598DDF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I bought my S750 new it was 'fully configured' as 16Mb. Is this = still the maximum it can take ? Anbody got more ? Thanks, Rik ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C1A912.598DDF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I bought my S750 new it was 'fully = configured'=20 as 16Mb. Is this still the maximum it can take ? Anbody got more ? = Thanks,=20 Rik
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From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 29 21:49:03 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193718-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:48:54 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:48:42 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id g0U2mYr86786 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:48:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3852>; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:09:36 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1f9.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.233] helo=mindspring.com) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16VjF0-0002C0-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:08:46 -0500 Message-ID: <3C574792.213F1560@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:08:35 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Product & Price Listing from Nicebeats Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FDA30560C153DD14CDDBCF21" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FDA30560C153DD14CDDBCF21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I didn't get any negative responses, so here it is, in Adobe Acrobat format. If anyone doesn't have Acrobat (and everybody who uses the web should really get it and install it for free) I can put the list in text format and send it along. The reason I don't do that in the first place is there are some nice pictures. As I said before, right now there's no list of sounds and patches for each CD; there's an English-language web site coming which will have that and demos, too. Below is the email the rep (William A Swezey II ) sent me, and the acrobat file is attached. By the way, I'm thinking of buying their Yamaha TX-7 Synthline CD in Akai format (they don't do Roland format - check the price list to see what they do support) to see what they're like - right now it's half off, or $49.50 plus $6.95 S&H, which shouldn't be too bad for over 600Mb worth of synth samples. I'll let everyone know if I get it. Jesse Thanks for your interest in our sample CD's. As you can see, our list is very extensive. Samples are 16 bit stereo for all formats and most CD's are over 600 MB with 60 or more patches. We are the U.S. Distributor for all the products from Nicebytes. We do not have a list of the synthesizers used in the Pads and Sweeps CD. The manufacturer web site is www.nicebeats.de but it is all in German. Soon we will have a web site where you can look at the track listing and hear samples of the sounds. It is taking a little longer to get it going than we hoped because we will also take orders over the site. EBAY just cancelled our latest listings because they said that offering a choice of formats was against their policy - that the auction must be for a single item or people get confused. Because of this we are behind in sales now so you can order directly from the enclosed price list and take 50% off any single title price shown!! If you have any questions, please feel free to write - we are glad to help. Please consider an order as we are just getting started here in the U.S. Thank you for your support. P.S. There are 3 special bundles that are not on the price list: Analog Synth Super 10 Pack (Microwave, Pulse, Matrix 1000, etc.) $399.99 All Synth Line CD's (33 Synths in all) $699.99 (BEST VALUE LESS THAN $20.00 PER CD!!!) All Studio Line CD's (15 titles in all) $499.99 And for a limited time, since we are just getting started here in the states, if you take one of the above bundles, you get a 20% discount and FREE shipping!! Let me know if you have any questions. I hope you will place an order with us soon. We take MC and Visa through Paypal (wswezey@juno.com) and also accept MO, personal checks and cashiers cheques (send to: Analogue Audio Solutions C/O William Swezey 2207 Concord Pike Suite 221 Wilmington, DE 19803-2908 . Thanks again - I look forward to hearing from you. P.S. With the discount the Synth Line bundle is only $559.99 including shipping!! That's less than $17.00 per CD!! The Studio Line is $399.99 including shipping - less than $27.00 per CD!! That is an insane price for sample CD's, especially ones packed with over 600MB like these and all multi-sampled, looped and keymapped - ready to go!! We can only hold this price for a short time because of our agreement with the manufacturer in Germany so please think about ordering quickly. 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From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 03:49:25 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 03:49:20 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f94.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.94]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 03:49:10 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 00:49:01 -0800 Received: from 195.100.79.118 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 08:49:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.100.79.118] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S750 max memory Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 03:49:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2002 08:49:01.0260 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6A328C0:01C1A96A] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Mine has got 18Mb. I think it comes equipped with 2 Mb as standard, and you can insert 16 Mb more into it. You should have 18 Mb in yours too. regards Daniel > >When I bought my S750 new it was 'fully configured' as 16Mb. Is this still >the maximum it can take ? Anbody got more ? Thanks, Rik _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 04:01:13 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 04:01:04 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f169.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.169]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 04:01:02 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 01:00:58 -0800 Received: from 195.100.79.118 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:00:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.100.79.118] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Translator findings Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 04:00:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2002 09:00:58.0344 (UTC) FILETIME=[A20D7E80:01C1A96C] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I agree. I thought that they soon was going to support the older Roland boxes when i bought Translator, and perhaps they will at some point. I received this answer yesterday: ">I am just curious about when you plan to include support for >translation into the Roland S7X0 format (native, S750/770 format). I >mailed you a couple of months ago regarding this, and then you said >that it was >planned to be included very soon. Do you perhaps have a >target date for this conversion? It's just about there. It's not too difficult, but it's lightly requested and things keep stepping in front of it. " so if we all send 5 mails each, requesting that they implement it fully, we will perhaps have it soon :-) Regards Daniel > > Have you successfully converted anything into S-7X0 format with > > Translator? > > No. Sorry to say, the fact that I can read and audit disks with >Translator, doesn't mean it can save in Roland format... I am beginning to >realise that there is still an awful lot of whishful thinking included in >the retail prize of Translator! > > The details & status service on the Translator website states: >"This page refers to both the older S-700 series samplers and the new >XV-5080 sample-playback machine. Translator will support both formats; it >will be able to write to the older Roland propritary format disk or CD, >and write the new XV-5080 .svd/.svp/.wav format." But for now writing into >Roland format has not yet been introduced. > >jp >___________________________________________________________________________ > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 > http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 12:39:02 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:38:55 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:38:48 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1cs.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.156] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Vygy-00050O-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:38:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:38:27 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In my search to get a wide range of DX7 sounds into my rig as cheaply as possible, I'm now considering one of two solutions: buying a used Yamaha TX7 unit off ebay (they seem to go for less than $50) or buying the Nicebeats TX7 sample CD for about $50.00 plus shipping. Any opinions? To use the TX7, I'd also have to buy a good synth editor program. This should allow me to take advantage of the apparently tens of thousands of useful patches available for free on the net. Of course, I can only use one sound at a time, which isn't too much of a problem since I should be able to sync my sequencer to my digital recorder and record one track at a time (if necessary I can bounce or submix them later within the recorder). The Nicebeats TX7 CD lets me very easily load sounds into my existing equipment; I can stack sounds, filter them and send them out of the four individual outputs. Of course, I can never add new sounds (unless I find and buy more sample CDs). And there's no demo available for the Nicebeats CD, so I have no idea how good a sample of TX7 sounds it contains. What would you do? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 12:45:59 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:45:52 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([208.52.68.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:45:38 -0500 Received: from [208.52.71.36] ([208.52.71.36]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21312; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:46:12 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:47:50 -0500 To: Jesse Segovia , Sampler Group From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 12:38 pm -0500 30/1/2002, Jesse Segovia wrote: >In my search to get a wide range of DX7 sounds into my rig as cheaply as >possible, I'm now considering one of two solutions: buying a used >Yamaha TX7 unit off ebay (they seem to go for less than $50) or buying >the Nicebeats TX7 sample CD for about $50.00 plus shipping. > >Any opinions? > >To use the TX7, I'd also have to buy a good synth editor program. This >should allow me to take advantage of the apparently tens of thousands of >useful patches available for free on the net. Of course, I can only use >one sound at a time, which isn't too much of a problem since I should be >able to sync my sequencer to my digital recorder and record one track at >a time (if necessary I can bounce or submix them later within the >recorder). > >The Nicebeats TX7 CD lets me very easily load sounds into my existing >equipment; I can stack sounds, filter them and send them out of the four >individual outputs. Of course, I can never add new sounds (unless I >find and buy more sample CDs). And there's no demo available for the >Nicebeats CD, so I have no idea how good a sample of TX7 sounds it >contains. > >What would you do? > >Jesse Hi Jesse, what type of computer you have? if I wanted a DX7 sound (can't see why....lol. BUT that's another issue....lol) I would go software synth. Native instruments, has what I have heard is the best well next to a real dx7 of course sounding dx-7.. wiht added stuff. www.native-instruments.de/ but you have to have cpu power to run plug ins. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 12:47:02 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:46:55 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([208.52.68.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:46:49 -0500 Received: from [208.52.71.36] ([208.52.71.36]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21336; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:47:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:48:47 -0500 To: Jesse Segovia , Sampler Group From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 12:38 pm -0500 30/1/2002, Jesse Segovia wrote: >In my search to get a wide range of DX7 sounds into my rig as cheaply as >possible, I'm now considering one of two solutions: buying a used >Yamaha TX7 unit off ebay (they seem to go for less than $50) or buying >the Nicebeats TX7 sample CD for about $50.00 plus shipping. > >Any opinions? > ok I read your message instead of just blinding replying..lol if they going for $50 ebay that to me is a no brainer... get that one.... it comes with its own polyphony and outputs.. :-) rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 12:48:08 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:48:02 -0500 Received: from intmailvw02.lear.com ([63.68.228.222]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193722-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:47:45 -0500 Received: from 10.0.4.95 by intmailvw02.lear.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:47:34 -0500 Received: by inet-imc-01.headquarters.lear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:47:33 -0500 Message-ID: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DAF1AED@oakville.oakville.lear.com> From: "Gallagher, Jon" To: Sampler Group Subject: RE: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:47:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey there guys.. Me personally, I'd buy the TX7 and sample it myself..That way you could scoop all the patches off the 'net and still have the flexibility to run the TX7 AND the sampler simultaneously... But I always do things the hard way,so there you have it... :^) Jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Segovia [SMTP:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 12:38 PM > To: Sampler Group > Subject: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? > > In my search to get a wide range of DX7 sounds into my rig as cheaply as > possible, I'm now considering one of two solutions: buying a used > Yamaha TX7 unit off ebay (they seem to go for less than $50) or buying > the Nicebeats TX7 sample CD for about $50.00 plus shipping. > > Any opinions? > > To use the TX7, I'd also have to buy a good synth editor program. This > should allow me to take advantage of the apparently tens of thousands of > useful patches available for free on the net. Of course, I can only use > one sound at a time, which isn't too much of a problem since I should be > able to sync my sequencer to my digital recorder and record one track at > a time (if necessary I can bounce or submix them later within the > recorder). > > The Nicebeats TX7 CD lets me very easily load sounds into my existing > equipment; I can stack sounds, filter them and send them out of the four > individual outputs. Of course, I can never add new sounds (unless I > find and buy more sample CDs). And there's no demo available for the > Nicebeats CD, so I have no idea how good a sample of TX7 sounds it > contains. > > What would you do? > > Jesse > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 12:48:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193732-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:48:35 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193719-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:48:28 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9B7BD78 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:48:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA15081 for >; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:48:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C5831EA.000001.24203@statler> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:48:26 -0500 From: blincoln To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'd go with the module, it's more versatile to be able to program your own sounds. Jesse Segovia wrote: > In my search to get a wide range of DX7 sounds into my rig as cheaply as > possible, I'm now considering one of two solutions: buying a used > Yamaha TX7 unit off ebay (they seem to go for less than $50) or buying > the Nicebeats TX7 sample CD for about $50.00 plus shipping. > > Any opinions? > > To use the TX7, I'd also have to buy a good synth editor program. This > should allow me to take advantage of the apparently tens of thousands of > useful patches available for free on the net. Of course, I can only use > one sound at a time, which isn't too much of a problem since I should be > able to sync my sequencer to my digital recorder and record one track at > a time (if necessary I can bounce or submix them later within the > recorder). > > The Nicebeats TX7 CD lets me very easily load sounds into my existing > equipment; I can stack sounds, filter them and send them out of the four > individual outputs. Of course, I can never add new sounds (unless I > find and buy more sample CDs). And there's no demo available for the > Nicebeats CD, so I have no idea how good a sample of TX7 sounds it > contains. > > What would you do? > > Jesse > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 13:34:22 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:34:20 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:34:04 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1cs.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.156] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16VzYT-0006AZ-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:33:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:33:38 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Sven Patterson , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard Sven Patterson wrote: > if I wanted a DX7 sound (can't see why....lol. BUT that's another issue....lol) > I would go software synth. > Native instruments, has what I have heard is the best well next to a > real dx7 of course sounding dx-7.. wiht added stuff. > > www.native-instruments.de/ I'm downloading the demo right now. So far I haven't gotten into plug-ins or PC synths or samplers at all. I guess it's because I've had bad luck with the sound card in my laptop; it's REALLY noisy so I could never use it as a sampling source or, I guess, as a sampler or synth module, and I've never bothered getting MIDI for any of my desktop PCs. As for DX sounds, you have to slap some reverb and/or chorus on it to get the full effect, but you never got into the first Scritti Politti CD? Man, that's NICE! That record changed everything about my music when I first heard it. That's when I seriously jumped into a sequencer and MIDI equipment and stopped trying to make my paltry basement studio gear sound only like a real band. Ironically, I've held onto a lot of the influences and the specifics, but now I'm back to trying to sound like a real band again. Super Basses, Piano Bells and that cheesy Harmonica patch forever!!! 8-) Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 13:36:02 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:35:51 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:35:45 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1cs.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.156] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Vza8-0004ml-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:35:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3C583CEB.F4E1312B@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:35:24 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blincoln , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C5831EA.000001.24203@statler> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, I don't know if I'll actually do anything with programming; once I found a way to get patches off the net I'd probably just keep swapping those in and out. Back in the day I was pretty facile with D-50 programming; I still have a new nice patches I did myself, including some that ape DX7 patches. I never met anyone who was good with FM synthesis. It's amazing powerful if you understand it but I just never met anyone who took the plunge. blincoln wrote: > > I'd go with the module, it's more versatile to be able to program > your own sounds. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 13:37:37 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:37:31 -0500 Received: from intmailvw05.lear.com (39.lear.com [63.68.196.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:37:15 -0500 Received: from 10.0.4.95 by intmailvw05.lear.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:45:23 -0500 Received: by inet-imc-01.headquarters.lear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:37:01 -0500 Message-ID: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DAF1B10@oakville.oakville.lear.com> From: "Gallagher, Jon" To: Sampler Group Subject: RE: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:36:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Jesse, don't forget those funky steel drum sounds!!! :^) > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Segovia [SMTP:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 1:34 PM > To: Richard Sven Patterson; Sampler Group > Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? > > Richard Sven Patterson wrote: > > if I wanted a DX7 sound (can't see why....lol. BUT that's another > issue....lol) > > I would go software synth. > > Native instruments, has what I have heard is the best well next to a > > real dx7 of course sounding dx-7.. wiht added stuff. > > > > www.native-instruments.de/ > > I'm downloading the demo right now. So far I haven't gotten into > plug-ins or PC synths or samplers at all. I guess it's because I've had > bad luck with the sound card in my laptop; it's REALLY noisy so I could > never use it as a sampling source or, I guess, as a sampler or synth > module, and I've never bothered getting MIDI for any of my desktop PCs. > > As for DX sounds, you have to slap some reverb and/or chorus on it to > get the full effect, but you never got into the first Scritti Politti > CD? Man, that's NICE! That record changed everything about my music > when I first heard it. That's when I seriously jumped into a sequencer > and MIDI equipment and stopped trying to make my paltry basement studio > gear sound only like a real band. Ironically, I've held onto a lot of > the influences and the specifics, but now I'm back to trying to sound > like a real band again. > > Super Basses, Piano Bells and that cheesy Harmonica patch forever!!! > 8-) > > Jesse > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 13:38:43 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:38:31 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193728-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:38:04 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1cs.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.156] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16VzcM-0008N4-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:37:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3C583D75.D5B51736@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:37:41 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Sven Patterson CC: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard Sven Patterson wrote: > if they going for $50 ebay that to me is a no brainer... > get that one.... > it comes with its own polyphony and outputs.. :-) It's 16 voice polyphony but only one patch at a time, and only one output. But again, I can do all my layering in my digital workstation or even in my sampler if I have to. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 13:50:57 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:50:51 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([208.52.68.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:50:41 -0500 Received: from [208.52.71.36] ([208.52.71.36]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22547; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:51:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:52:53 -0500 To: Jesse Segovia , Sampler Group From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk lol. whatever..rofl. it was the only keyboard that I heard in EVERY record in the 80's and almost cringed except for the overused electric piano..lol... is the first scritti politti album the one with perfect way? I loved that song. that had dx7 in it? actually I had heard that was not their first album that previously they were a gothic band or some NON-POP music. but yeah you got me singing. I found a perfect way to make the girls go crazy...lol..oh yeah the bass was nice too... and in I think 1992, David Sanborn ( my favourite and actually the only saxophonist tha tI truly love.. yeah I am full of opinions today.. well him and the no soul, I can play a whole bunch of scales very very fast with a whole bunch of cliche riffs.. kenny g.. joking ) came here and his keyboard player, Ricky Peterson, used only a Dx-7 and a B-3. and DID he make that dx-7 sound great. And trust me I did check to see if there was any midi cables to see if he was triggering anytying else. but no, it was only the dx-7 and he had some great sounds on his.... but to each his own :-) rsp > >As for DX sounds, you have to slap some reverb and/or chorus on it to >get the full effect, but you never got into the first Scritti Politti >CD? Man, that's NICE! That record changed everything about my music >when I first heard it. That's when I seriously jumped into a sequencer >and MIDI equipment and stopped trying to make my paltry basement studio >gear sound only like a real band. Ironically, I've held onto a lot of >the influences and the specifics, but now I'm back to trying to sound >like a real band again. > >Super Basses, Piano Bells and that cheesy Harmonica patch forever!!! >8-) > >Jesse -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 14:01:54 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:01:47 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:01:37 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1cs.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.156] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Vzz6-0002Vs-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:01:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5842F0.5BDE9D00@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:01:04 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gallagher, Jon" , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DAF1B10@oakville.oakville.lear.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Gallagher, Jon" wrote: > > Hey Jesse, don't forget those funky steel drum sounds!!! :^) > > > Super Basses, Piano Bells and that cheesy Harmonica patch forever!!! > > 8-) Funky steel ANYTHING! That's what FM synthesis was made to do! 8-) Seriously, though. Electric pianos, organs of all kinds, any bell you can think of, edgy synth basses and spot-on picked electric basses, unbelievable marimbas and xylophones and some very surprising effects sounds. I've got a sample of an indescribable patch called 'Wallop' that's just amazing, as well as without a doubt the most realistic fog horn you have ever heard. Yamaha should just release Scritti Politti's "Cupid and Psyche '86" CD as an FM synthesis demo. If you haven't heard this CD and you want to understand the very best of what sequenced synth dance music was like in the '80s, check it out! To be fair to the competition, Go West's eponymous first CD is an equally good representation of the Roland side. Two nights ago I was watching a video I have of Go West's live show supporting their second album 'Dancing on the Couch.' Man, the keyboard player must have about thirteen synthesizers (who knows what he had in his racks), the rhythm guitar player has three or four keyboards of his own and there's a D-50 set up for the lead guitarist or the vocalist to noodle on. Fortunately, I'm forty years old and therefore immune to the equipment-envy I was subjected to as a lad in his late 20s. Yeah, right! 8-) Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 14:24:05 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:23:59 -0500 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26070>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:23:49 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1cs.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.156] helo=mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16W0KZ-0002Fh-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:23:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:22:50 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Sven Patterson CC: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey, the list is alive again. For the moment, anyway. 8-) Richard Sven Patterson wrote: > > lol. whatever..rofl. it was the only keyboard that I heard in EVERY > record in the 80's and almost cringed except for the overused > electric piano..lol... The thing that still makes me want to retch is the Harmonica patch. Remember, from the solo to Tina Turner's 'What's Love Got to Do With It?' Arrgghh!!!! Don't play that patch again! I'll talk, I'll talk! 8-) > is the first scritti politti album the one with perfect way? > I loved that song. that had dx7 in it? Yep. That album is almost entirely DX7, actually TX816 and I think the old Opcode editor program. There are some Roland synths on it and they used a Fairlight for some very specific sample things. The keyboard player, David Gamson, said after making the first CD, he'd overdosed on the DX7 sound and wouldn't have anything to do with it for a long time. But by the time they got to making their second CD, 'Provision,' he was back into it because it sounds almost exactly like the first album. > actually I had heard that was not their first album that previously > they were a gothic band or some NON-POP music. You're right, they were actually a very political punk skank band or something. I've never heard any of it but their lead singer was apparently a card-carrying member of the UK Communist Party. But he decided the really subversive thing was to go all the way to the mainstream, full and complete pop, and to be very subtle in your subversion. The result was 'Cupid & Psyche '86.' > I found a perfect way to make the girls go crazy...lol..oh yeah the > bass was nice too... Nice track. The whole album's pretty good. 'Perfect Way' is the one Miles Davis covered on 'Tutu.' > kenny g.. joking Well again, maybe the really subversive thing is to go all the way to the mainstream. Ha-ha, I'm joking too. 8-) Has everyone seen the letter Pat Metheny posted on his web site about Kenny G's "duet" with Louie Armstrong? Not very flattering. > And trust me I did check to see if there was any midi > cables to see if he was triggering anytying else. LOL! But you didn't open up the case. He'd probably hidden something really good inside, like a Casio or one of those Yamaha units you can buy for the kiddies. 8-) Speaking of which, the one thing I REALLY regret not sampling was one of the really small toy pianos you can buy for your kids. We had one years ago and it's long gone now. I'll have to buy one for my six year old, although she's already outgrown it and is already learning his do-re-mis on the real piano. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 14:35:41 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:35:33 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-26069>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:35:30 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0804BBD7F for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA17269 for >; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:35:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C584AF3.000001.27109@statler> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:35:15 -0500 From: blincoln To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The DX7 is great! I don't have room for another keyboard, but I totally picked up an FS1R when they were getting blown out so I could get the same type of sounds. Richard Sven Patterson wrote: > lol. whatever..rofl. it was the only keyboard that I heard in EVERY > record in the 80's and almost cringed except for the overused > electric piano..lol... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 15:03:51 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11257>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:03:45 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11257>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:03:34 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.185]) by tweakhead.com ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:03:32 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:04:16 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Sampler Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <101242101201@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Yamaha should just release Scritti Politti's "Cupid and Psyche '86" CD >as an FM synthesis demo. Um, it was "Cupid and Psyche '85"... cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 15:14:24 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11257>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:14:14 -0500 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11257>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:14:08 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1cs.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.156] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16W16S-0000uA-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:13:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3C5853BF.F98D6471@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:12:47 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aeon , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <101242101201@europa.your-site.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ouch, you're right. I guess it was '86 when I first heard it. 8-) Jesse aeon wrote: > > >Yamaha should just release Scritti Politti's "Cupid and Psyche '86" CD > >as an FM synthesis demo. > > Um, it was "Cupid and Psyche '85"... > > cheers, > aeon > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 16:42:58 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11257>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:42:53 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([208.52.68.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11257>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:42:38 -0500 Received: from [208.52.71.36] ([208.52.75.121]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA26792; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:43:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:44:58 -0500 To: Jesse Segovia From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? Cc: Sampler Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >You're right, they were actually a very political punk skank band or >something. I've never heard any of it but their lead singer was >apparently a card-carrying member of the UK Communist Party. But he >decided the really subversive thing was to go all the way to the >mainstream, full and complete pop, and to be very subtle in your >subversion. The result was 'Cupid & Psyche '86.' YEAH that's a switch all right. couldn't get more pop than that.. is that album out on cd? when I use to live in the US up to 1992, couldn't find it. and I have LEARNT to avoid online RECORD stores...lol. I will not have enough money to eat etc after shopping on those.. :-) I actually don't like miles cover of it. but then again I not really into covers.. yeah I saw the pat metheny thing, I guess the louis armstrong was the final straw.. Kenny G came to perform in Jamaica two years ago. I honestly had to put ear plugs in my ear..... but I digress :-) what is ironic to me. is that we discussing the tx/dx on the roland sampling group. when the reason I love roland stuff is becuse it is to me everything the dx 7 wasn't... but life goes on. :-) rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 18:14:05 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-11257>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 18:14:00 -0500 Received: from vesuri.Helsinki.FI (vesuri.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-11257>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 18:13:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by vesuri.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g0UNDe102796 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 01:13:40 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: vesuri.Helsinki.FI: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 18:13:40 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: sgroup Translator -- the ultimate reference Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Did you notice that the magazine Electronic Musician (Jan. 2002) elected the Chicen Systems Translator as winner of best Ancillary Software in their roundup of year 2002 Editors' Coice Awards! Although I recognise the good potential in the Translator as a conversion tool, I can't avoid feeling somewhat disapointed with what it delivers with respect to the Roland format. There seems to be a great need for this sort of program, great expectations. The magazine editors are eager to boost these expectations in stating that the greatest strength of the Translator "lies in the astounding number of sample formats (more than four dozen) that it can translate to and from, including [...] Roland, [...], and many others." If the editor counted "more than four dozen", I think we can conclude that should be minus one, namely the Roland format ;-( jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 30 22:14:09 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-23186>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:14:01 -0500 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-23186>; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:13:58 -0500 Received: from user-2ive17l.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.4.245] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16W7f6-0007Re-00; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:13:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3C58B63E.7891D441@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 22:13:02 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Sven Patterson , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Yamaha TX7 or Sample CD? References: <3C582F93.7F975EDA@mindspring.com> <3C583C82.9CC3189E@mindspring.com> <3C58480A.356EAAD9@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard Sven Patterson wrote: > what is ironic to me. > is that we discussing the tx/dx on the roland sampling group. > when the reason I love roland stuff is becuse it is to me everything > the dx 7 wasn't... > but life goes on. :-) I was a Roland nut. I had lots of them; they generally sounded much warmer than Yamahas or anything else for that matter, they were easy to program once you understood the Roland approach, and they almost always included decent FX. The D-50 is still my favorite all-time synth, although it's too recognizable and some of the samples they stuck in the thing are just puzzling. But the DX makes a nice change and it's cooler, metallic range fills a nice gap in the Roland stuff. I do have some nice DX samples for the S-550 I made myself from a TX802, and the Roland library, Universe of Sounds and Club 50 CDs also has some nice DX stuff. But I'd like a much nicer range, preferably for the S-760 (or from an actual DX synth), so that's the question. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 31 18:08:38 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-28907>; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:08:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f259.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.134]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-28906>; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:08:25 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:08:18 -0800 Received: from 217.215.29.20 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:08:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.215.29.20] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Translator findings Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:08:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2002 23:08:18.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B942330:01C1AAAC] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Rik, I have mailed with them using this address: support@chickensys.com so lets give'em hell ;-) regards Daniel > >Guys, >Do we have an email address to show interest to ? >Rik >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Lehtihet" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:00 AM >Subject: RE: sgroup Translator findings > > > > I agree. I thought that they soon was going to support the older Roland > > boxes when i bought Translator, and perhaps they will at some point. I > > received this answer yesterday: > > > > > > ">I am just curious about when you plan to include support for > >translation > > into the Roland S7X0 format (native, S750/770 format). I >mailed you a > > couple of months ago regarding this, and then you said >that it was > >planned > > to be included very soon. Do you perhaps have a >target date for this > > conversion? > > > > It's just about there. It's not too difficult, but it's lightly >requested > > and things keep stepping in front of it. " > > > > > > > > so if we all send 5 mails each, requesting that they implement it fully, >we > > will perhaps have it soon :-) > > > > Regards > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > Have you successfully converted anything into S-7X0 format with > > > > Translator? > > > > > > No. Sorry to say, the fact that I can read and audit disks with > > >Translator, doesn't mean it can save in Roland format... I am beginning >to > > >realise that there is still an awful lot of whishful thinking included >in > > >the retail prize of Translator! > > > > > > The details & status service on the Translator website states: > > >"This page refers to both the older S-700 series samplers and the new > > >XV-5080 sample-playback machine. Translator will support both formats; >it > > >will be able to write to the older Roland propritary format disk or CD, > > >and write the new XV-5080 .svd/.svp/.wav format." But for now writing >into > > >Roland format has not yet been introduced. > > > > > >jp > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 >23100 > > > http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: >95022414 > > > > > > > > >- > > >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Jan 31 22:58:23 2002 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-28907>; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:58:16 -0500 Received: from fluorine.mcis.singnet.com.sg (fluorine.singnet.com.sg [165.21.74.72]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-28907>; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:58:09 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by fluorine.mcis.singnet.com.sg with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:55:33 +0800 Received: from mx12.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.74.122]) by fluorine.mcis.singnet.com.sg with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:08:53 +0800 Received: from hugin.uunet.ca (hugin.uunet.ca [209.167.141.2]) by mx12.singnet.com.sg (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g0VN8pvF021448 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:08:52 +0800 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193713-28907>; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:08:39 -0500 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca (bulk_mailer v1.9); Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:08:38 -0500 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-28907>; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:08:29 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f259.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.240.134]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-28906>; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:08:25 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:08:18 -0800 Received: from 217.215.29.20 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:08:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.215.29.20] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Translator findings Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 18:08:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2002 23:08:18.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B942330:01C1AAAC] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Rik, I have mailed with them using this address: support@chickensys.com so lets give'em hell ;-) regards Daniel > >Guys, >Do we have an email address to show interest to ? >Rik >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel Lehtihet" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 9:00 AM >Subject: RE: sgroup Translator findings > > > > I agree. I thought that they soon was going to support the older Roland > > boxes when i bought Translator, and perhaps they will at some point. I > > received this answer yesterday: > > > > > > ">I am just curious about when you plan to include support for > >translation > > into the Roland S7X0 format (native, S750/770 format). I >mailed you a > > couple of months ago regarding this, and then you said >that it was > >planned > > to be included very soon. Do you perhaps have a >target date for this > > conversion? > > > > It's just about there. It's not too difficult, but it's lightly >requested > > and things keep stepping in front of it. " > > > > > > > > so if we all send 5 mails each, requesting that they implement it fully, >we > > will perhaps have it soon :-) > > > > Regards > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > Have you successfully converted anything into S-7X0 format with > > > > Translator? > > > > > > No. Sorry to say, the fact that I can read and audit disks with > > >Translator, doesn't mean it can save in Roland format... I am beginning >to > > >realise that there is still an awful lot of whishful thinking included >in > > >the retail prize of Translator! > > > > > > The details & status service on the Translator website states: > > >"This page refers to both the older S-700 series samplers and the new > > >XV-5080 sample-playback machine. Translator will support both formats; >it > > >will be able to write to the older Roland propritary format disk or CD, > > >and write the new XV-5080 .svd/.svp/.wav format." But for now writing >into > > >Roland format has not yet been introduced. > > > > > >jp > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 >23100 > > > http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: >95022414 > > > > > > > > >- > > >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.