From owner-sgroup Sat Dec 1 03:39:11 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27190>; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 03:39:04 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27189>; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 03:38:54 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fB18ca508868 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 03:38:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from femail39.sdc1.sfba.home.com ([24.254.60.33]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-7596>; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:58:05 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([65.5.121.187]) by femail39.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011130045753.ZAAR4307.femail39.sdc1.sfba.home.com@[192.168.1.100]> for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:57:53 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: clkirkham@mail.pinol1.sfba.home.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:57:47 -0500 To: From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup RC100 for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I saw an RC100 for sale on harmony central a few days ago Chris - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 2 01:16:19 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-395>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:16:12 -0500 Received: from siaag1ae.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-395>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:16:06 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ae.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id BAA05052 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:15:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:13:57 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup variphrase To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200112020114_MC3-E8F9-2514@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk re: Vp9000 These are $1495 now at Sam Ash. Anyone wanna compare em with a s760? Why might I want one if I have a 760= ? |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 2 01:37:02 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-395>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:36:54 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-395>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:36:43 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fB26abJ30407 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:36:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27189>; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:18:14 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-119-62.tnt9.me2.uunet.de [149.225.119.62]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id QAA16875 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:18:10 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C08F3B9.DC64B04B@cityweb.de> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:14:03 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup S750 internal hard drive References: <623612E6-E5D3-11D5-8A4B-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Josh Carter wrote: > > Very cool. I have a S-760, so there's not much room for a drive inside, > I don't think. (Haven't popped it open, though. If it's not equipped with an OP-760, then there is some room. OTOH, if I had a S-760 without OP-760, the first thing I'd try to get is an OP-760 ;-) Another option (perhaps) is throwing the floppy drive out and installing a HD or removable media drive it its place. But I don't know if the S-760's power supply is strong enough for an additional drive. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 2 03:58:25 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-395>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 03:58:16 -0500 Received: from mail.drexel.edu ([129.25.3.58]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-394>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 03:58:06 -0500 Received: from shim.irt.drexel.edu (shim.irt.drexel.edu [129.25.3.91]) by mail.drexel.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.10.12.16.25.p8) with ESMTP id <0GNP00LG2KWF9I@mail.drexel.edu> for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 03:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shim.irt.drexel.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59877BC3C; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 03:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from glue.irt.drexel.edu (glue.irt.drexel.edu [129.25.3.22]) by shim.irt.drexel.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56067BC31; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 03:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dunx1.irt.drexel.edu (dunx1.irt.drexel.edu [129.25.3.11]) by glue.irt.drexel.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB28xTw12195; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 03:59:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 03:57:49 -0500 From: jonathan Subject: sgroup where to find S760 info In-reply-to: <3C08F3B9.DC64B04B@cityweb.de> X-Sender: st95za4y@dunx1.irt.drexel.edu To: null@bitbucket.com Cc: Roland Sgroup Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20010915 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk so i get the impression from this group.. that everyone loves there 760 i still use a JS-30 and a s-550, but now have enough money to bump up is there any site to reasearch all the features and upgrades on the S-760 looking it to buying one or one for a backup.. in other news.. saw a cool band tonight at the balcony.. they built their own midi triggers from old motherboards, and had a hot singer to boot too! i think their name was 'zia'.. they sang songs about plastic dildos, and helped me forget how bad commercial music inthe world is today. jonathan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Therapy is expensive. Poppin' bubble wrap is cheap. The choice is yours ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 2 11:53:50 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-394>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:53:42 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-394>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:53:39 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718E1BCB6 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from maridia.blarg.net (vq126.atm01.sea.blarg.net [206.124.140.126] (may be forged)) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08043 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:53:27 -0800 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011202085155.00b877a0@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 11:53:31 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup variphrase In-Reply-To: <200112020114_MC3-E8F9-2514@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Apparently they're really cool if you do lots of time-stretching, beat-matching stuff. They're capable of taking a single sample and like re-sampling it on-the-fly so it sounds good across the whole keyboard. The last I read though you couldn't import your own samples and do the across-the-whole-board thing, they had to be converted by Roland into the VP format. Has this changed? Anyone? Plus the polyphony is like six voices. At 10:13 PM 12/1/2001, dennis barton wrote: >re: Vp9000 > >These are $1495 now at Sam Ash. > >Anyone wanna compare em with a s760? Why might I want one if I have a 760? > > |_e_/~ Dennis Barton > ) skylab2000 > ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles > / http://skylab2000.com > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 2 17:18:23 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-394>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 17:18:15 -0500 Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.165]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-394>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 17:18:11 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.74.14290560 (3982) for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 17:18:04 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <74.14290560.293c029c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 17:18:04 -0500 Subject: sgroup Hip-Hop Library on CD ROM To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_74.14290560.293c029c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_74.14290560.293c029c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where can I find a very good Hip-Hop Library on CD ROM for the s760? Thanks Dave H. --part1_74.14290560.293c029c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where can I find a very good Hip-Hop Library on CD ROM for the s760?

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Dave H. --part1_74.14290560.293c029c_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 01:15:16 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 01:15:05 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (2cust97.tnt7.sdg1.da.uu.net [63.29.169.97]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 01:15:04 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fB36Ess80684 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 01:14:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail.san.yahoo.com ([209.132.1.30]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193717-395>; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 04:02:32 -0500 Received: from sjspc (64.114.174.116) by mail.san.yahoo.com (5.5.054.2) id 3C053CF00005C6E7; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 01:02:18 -0800 Message-ID: <003b01c17b10$05cd5340$74ae7240@whooshnet.com> Reply-To: "Steve Schow" From: "Steve Schow" To: "dennis barton" , References: <200112020114_MC3-E8F9-2514@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: sgroup variphrase Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 04:02:07 -0500 Organization: Backstage Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The variphrase is a completely different animal. Too much for me to explain... ----- Original Message ----- From: "dennis barton" To: Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: sgroup variphrase re: Vp9000 These are $1495 now at Sam Ash. Anyone wanna compare em with a s760? Why might I want one if I have a 760? |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 10:46:32 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-10821>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:46:25 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-10821>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:46:15 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.114.134]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011203154611.UXAB941.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:46:11 +0000 Message-ID: <001801c17c10$8d558e80$8672580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup What's the latest sampling CD you've bought? Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:38:26 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C17BE6.A3948A40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C17BE6.A3948A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Just curious as to which is the latest that you've bought - Either in = Akai or S760 Format. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C17BE6.A3948A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
Just curious as to which is the latest = that you've=20 bought - Either in Akai or S760 Format.
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C17BE6.A3948A40-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 16:10:44 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-10821>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:10:35 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.49]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-10821>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:10:32 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.87.58]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011203211028.VVZT13117.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 21:10:28 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c17c3d$da75ff60$3a57580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Roland S Series Question Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:02:42 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17C13.F0BE22E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17C13.F0BE22E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all, Are there any drum samples out there on the web for the S760? Are there = any drum samples out there in Akai format on the web? Can we convert = load floppies on the S760? Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17C13.F0BE22E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey all,
 
Are there any drum samples out there on = the web for=20 the S760? Are there any drum samples out there in Akai format on the = web? Can we=20 convert load floppies on the S760?
 
Thanks,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C17C13.F0BE22E0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 16:19:39 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:19:31 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.49]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:19:28 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.87.58]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011203211925.WABY13117.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 21:19:25 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c17c3f$1adf24e0$3a57580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Anyone thinking of trashing their Roland samplers? Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:11:40 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C17C15.31475380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C17C15.31475380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I love my S760, but it's a pain not having the many resources that some = of those Yamaha A users, Emu E users, Kurzweil K users and Akai S users = have that we don't. All of the samplers have tons of free samples out on = the web. All of these users have tons of utilities that can format = drives and CD for use on their machines. All of these guys have = companies supporting their formats. The Roland S760 is a great machine, but I'm starting to feel like a = Commodore 64 or Commodore Amiga user. Great machine, but little support = and few resources. This sucks. Any of you get the same feeling? Those = Yamaha As and Emu Es are starting to look real nice about now. Plus, the = resale value of the S760 is falling sharply now. What do you guys think? Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C17C15.31475380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
I love my S760, but it's a pain not = having the many=20 resources that some of those Yamaha A users, Emu E users, Kurzweil K = users and=20 Akai S users have that we don't. All of the samplers have tons of free = samples=20 out on the web. All of these users have tons of utilities that can = format drives=20 and CD for use on their machines. All of these guys have companies = supporting=20 their formats.
 
The Roland S760 is a great machine, but = I'm=20 starting to feel like a Commodore 64 or Commodore Amiga user. Great = machine, but=20 little support and few resources. This sucks. Any of you get the same = feeling?=20 Those Yamaha As and Emu Es are starting to look real nice about now. = Plus, the=20 resale value of the S760 is falling sharply now. What do you guys=20 think?
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C17C15.31475380-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 17:00:57 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:00:48 -0500 Received: from pikus.o2.pl ([212.126.20.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:00:44 -0500 Received: from j0u1l5 (dial852.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl [217.30.133.90]) by pikus.o2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id A2DCD1476EA for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:58:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004301c17c46$6a1e2540$659b1ed9@j0u1l5> From: "slaq" To: References: <001901c17c3f$1adf24e0$3a57580c@epu1> Subject: Odp: sgroup Anyone thinking of trashing their Roland samplers? Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:03:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C17C4E.C345A820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C17C4E.C345A820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ~ i'm not going to sell my s750. i LOVE the machine. i've got quite = used to sampling things on my own. some of the sounds i make are a bit = dodgy, but anyway i can cope with that. i wish some of the best sound = libraries were available in roland format [i'm particularly interested = in things like 'david torn's tonal textures' - mainly = ambient/experimental stuff]. please let me know of any good pads / = textures you'll come across [in roland format]. slaq I love my S760, but it's a pain not having the many resources that = some of those Yamaha A users, Emu E users, Kurzweil K users and Akai S = users have that we don't. All of the samplers have tons of free samples = out on the web. All of these users have tons of utilities that can = format drives and CD for use on their machines. All of these guys have = companies supporting their formats. The Roland S760 is a great machine, but I'm starting to feel like a = Commodore 64 or Commodore Amiga user. Great machine, but little support = and few resources. This sucks. Any of you get the same feeling? Those = Yamaha As and Emu Es are starting to look real nice about now. Plus, the = resale value of the S760 is falling sharply now. What do you guys think? Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C17C4E.C345A820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
~ i'm not going to sell my s750. = i LOVE the=20 machine. i've got quite used to sampling things on my own. some of the = sounds=20 i make are a bit dodgy, but anyway i can cope with that. i wish some = of the=20 best sound libraries were available in roland format [i'm particularly = interested in things like 'david torn's tonal textures' - mainly=20 ambient/experimental stuff]. please let me know of any good pads / = textures=20 you'll come across [in roland format].
 
slaq
 
 
I love my S760, but it's a pain not = having the=20 many resources that some of those Yamaha A users, Emu E users, = Kurzweil K=20 users and Akai S users have that we don't. All of the samplers have = tons of=20 free samples out on the web. All of these users have tons of utilities = that=20 can format drives and CD for use on their machines. All of these guys = have=20 companies supporting their formats.
 
The Roland S760 is a great machine, = but I'm=20 starting to feel like a Commodore 64 or Commodore Amiga user. Great = machine,=20 but little support and few resources. This sucks. Any of you get the = same=20 feeling? Those Yamaha As and Emu Es are starting to look real nice = about now.=20 Plus, the resale value of the S760 is falling sharply now. What do you = guys=20 think?
 
Later,
Harold
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From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 17:47:11 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:47:07 -0500 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:46:52 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id fB3MkcRi020722 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GNSHXX00.Q1T for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:46:45 -0800 Received: from localhost ([63.172.79.145]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GNSHXX00.686 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:46:45 -0800 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:46:44 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Anyone thinking of trashing their Roland samplers? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v475) From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <001901c17c3f$1adf24e0$3a57580c@epu1> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.475) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, I got my like-new, never even mounted in a rack S760 for $200 by=20= nothing less than divine providence, so at that price there's no way I'm=20= ditching it. While there may be more current samplers with better=20 support, the fact remains that the S760 (and I assume other 700's) are=20= still kick-butt machines. For what I use it for -- mostly drums and=20 cymbals -- it gives me really amazing sounds and I never have polyphony=20= issues like I do with my Alesis DM-5. Combine that with the fact that my=20= S760, DM5, 16ch line mixer, hard drive, etc all fit into a 4U rack case,=20= and it's an unbeatable portable setup. Of course, those new Akais and Emus look pretty cool, and don't get me=20= wrong, if I found one for $200, I'd buy it. :) Best regards, Josh On Monday, December 3, 2001, at 02:11 PM, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: > Hey, > =A0 > I love my S760, but it's a pain not having the many resources that = some=20 > of those Yamaha A users, Emu E users, Kurzweil K users and Akai S = users=20 > have that we don't. All of the samplers have tons of free samples out=20= > on the web. All of these users have tons of utilities that can format=20= > drives and CD for use on their machines. All of these guys have=20 > companies supporting their formats. > =A0 > The Roland S760 is a great machine, but I'm starting to feel like a=20 > Commodore 64 or Commodore Amiga user. Great machine, but little = support=20 > and few resources. This sucks. Any of you get the same feeling? Those=20= > Yamaha As and Emu Es are starting to look real nice about now. Plus,=20= > the resale value of the S760 is falling sharply now. What do you guys=20= > think? > =A0 > Later, > Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 17:57:45 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:57:34 -0500 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:57:23 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0dn.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.183] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16B21Z-0000il-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 17:57:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3C0C02CD.653BC93D@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:55:09 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S Series Question References: <000e01c17c3d$da75ff60$3a57580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The only thing I've found in good volume on the net is wav files. Lots and lots of those, for all kind of instruments and in very good quality. I know of some very good website URLs if anyone is interested. This is why I'm so interested in converting wav files to Roland format, although I still don't have a bulk storage solution for my S-760 so I'm not actively doing the conversion yet. Once I get the time to fix my S-760 I'll start to look for some kind of data storage, I guess optical drive so I can switch out and back-up media. There are a couple of places on the net where you can find samples in S-50 or S-550 format but not very many. Besides the poor Roland S-700 floppy sample library on our website, I don't know anyplace with samples in S-700 format. Jesse > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > Hey all, > > Are there any drum samples out there on the web for the S760? Are > there any drum samples out there in Akai format on the web? Can we > convert load floppies on the S760? > > Thanks, > Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 18:11:16 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-10821>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:11:06 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f63.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.63]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10821>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:11:00 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:10:52 -0800 Received: from 217.215.29.20 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 23:10:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [217.215.29.20] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Anyone thinking of trashing their Roland samplers? Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:10:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2001 23:10:52.0587 (UTC) FILETIME=[C107F7B0:01C17C4F] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Harold, I recently bought myself an Yamaha A3000 version 2 and i am very satisfied with it. The only bad thing about it (does not apply to the A4k and A5k) is the small display (2*40 characters). In this area i think that the Roland S7X0 is so much better, especially when using an RGB monitor. The A3k reads Akai, Emu, Roland, Wav and Aif directly, has 3 separate effect blocks, 64 Voices, an internal scsi HD, and it also has some neat utilities written especially for it. I only wish that my good old S750 could read Akai discs or that it supported SMDI transfers (which it does not unfortunately). But i purchased Chickensys translator some time ago, now hoping that they will release their version 2.5 of it that will hopefully support translations from Akai to S7x0 format so that i can start using the Roland more frequently. Having in mind that the S770/750 went into production quite a few years ago, i think that they still keep ut well with the rest:) Kind regards Daniel Linux is like a WigWam, no Windows, no Gates, Apache inside. >Hey, > >I love my S760, but it's a pain not having the many resources that some of >those Yamaha A users, Emu E users, Kurzweil K users and Akai S users have >that we don't. All of the samplers have tons of free samples out on the >web. All of these users have tons of utilities that can format drives and >CD for use on their machines. All of these guys have companies supporting >their formats. > >The Roland S760 is a great machine, but I'm starting to feel like a >Commodore 64 or Commodore Amiga user. Great machine, but little support and >few resources. This sucks. Any of you get the same feeling? Those Yamaha As >and Emu Es are starting to look real nice about now. Plus, the resale value >of the S760 is falling sharply now. What do you guys think? > >Later, >Harold _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 19:10:19 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-10821>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:10:13 -0500 Received: from smtp-server6.tampabay.rr.com ([65.32.1.43]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10821>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:10:02 -0500 Received: from tampabay.rr.com (6535197hfc139.tampabay.rr.com [65.35.197.139]) by smtp-server6.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fB409tZ10204 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:09:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C0C1453.6090208@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:09:55 -0500 From: kevin kelley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Roland S-750 OS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Would anyone on the list please send me a copy of the latest os. I have tried for several weeks now to download the os to floppy . It appears to work fine , but when I place it in the sampler it reads not a roland s series disk. There may be a deeper problem but I have no way of knowing yet. I can be reached at kkelley4@tampabay.rr.com I would be happy to pay for the disk and the shipping. Thanks Kevin Kelley - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 3 19:22:31 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:22:25 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10822>; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:22:15 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0dn.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.183] helo=mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16B3Li-0006Lg-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:22:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3C0C16AD.7E636508@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:19:57 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Anyone thinking of trashing their Roland samplers? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk First of all, I'll never trash or sell my S-760. With just the few Roland sample CDs I have, I already have more sounds available for the 760 than I do for just about any of my synths. And besides, the 760 sounds JUST GREAT! I thought my S-550 sounded good, and it does for a 12-bit machine (I always thought it blew away the other 12-bit machines of its day, like the Emax and the Ensoniq), but the S-760 just sounds phenomenal. The bell or metallic sounds are so alive. The drum sounds from the Roland 'Drums & Cymbals' CD sound great, just as good as the best stuff in my SPD-20. Four outputs and 24 voices may not be quite enough but once I figure out how to sync my AW4416 16 track to my sequencer, it'll be more than adequate. And once I get a mass storage device and start converting my wav files, plus start doing my own sampling, I'll be on my way. Daniel Lehtihet wrote: > > I recently bought myself an Yamaha A3000 version 2 and i am very satisfied > with it. ... The A3k reads Akai, Emu, Roland, Wav and Aif directly, has 3 separate effect > blocks, 64 Voices, an internal scsi HD, and it also has some neat utilities > written especially for it. Wow, what did you pay for it? There's one on ebay right now for $400. Do you have to pay separately for a CD-ROM or will it use the same CD-ROM you use for your S-760? How many outputs? Most importantly, how does it sound? As good as the S-760? Equipment!!!! Right now I'm not buying anything; the current economy is playing havoc with my business, but once things turn around (and they will), what to buy next? I've been thinking about a really good microphone like a Rodes NT-1 or NT-1000, an 88-key weighted keyboard controller like a used Roland, maybe more sample CDs for my S-760, and maybe a Waves56K FX expansion board for my AW4416. But a 16-bit sampler that will play wav. files and Akai sample CDs in native format? Just one more thing to put on my list that I certainly don't need and that I probably won't ever buy. 8-) Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 10:54:41 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:54:36 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:54:21 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.84.226]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011204155411.KUYN5540.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:54:11 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c17cda$d480a540$e254580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Attention S Group Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:46:23 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C17CB0.EABFA100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C17CB0.EABFA100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, Why is it that we can't create an archive of some sort to retrieve and = upload samples. The Roland LCD series is discontinued. There are a = thousand other CD-ROM titles that have long since disappeared from the = market and could possibly be thrown into the public domain. I really = want to use my sampler short of selling it. The General Concepts = archives has some really old samples. Plus we need a decent utility that = can EASILY create Roland formatted CDRs. I tried using the Chicken Sys = crap but couldn't do it because I have to shell out $149 to get a = registered copy. The program is pretty difficult to learn as it is. Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C17CB0.EABFA100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So,
 
Why is it that we can't create an = archive of some=20 sort to retrieve and upload samples. The Roland LCD series is = discontinued.=20 There are a thousand other CD-ROM titles that have long since = disappeared from=20 the market and could possibly be thrown into the public domain. I really = want to=20 use my sampler short of selling it. The General Concepts archives has = some=20 really old samples. Plus we need a decent utility that can EASILY create = Roland=20 formatted CDRs. I tried using the Chicken Sys crap but couldn't do it = because I=20 have to shell out $149 to get a registered copy. The program is pretty = difficult=20 to learn as it is.
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C17CB0.EABFA100-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 10:57:45 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193721-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:57:34 -0500 Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.205]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:57:28 -0500 Received: (qmail 8658 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2001 15:57:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Dec 2001 15:57:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001501c17cda$d480a540$e254580c@epu1> References: <001501c17cda$d480a540$e254580c@epu1> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:58:26 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Attention S Group Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1204644589==_ma============" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --============_-1204644589==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Why not try creating your own sounds instead of using pre-made sample cd's?? Just a thought. >So, > >Why is it that we can't create an archive of some sort to retrieve >and upload samples. The Roland LCD series is discontinued. There are >a thousand other CD-ROM titles that have long since disappeared from >the market and could possibly be thrown into the public domain. I >really want to use my sampler short of selling it. The General >Concepts archives has some really old samples. Plus we need a decent >utility that can EASILY create Roland formatted CDRs. I tried using >the Chicken Sys crap but couldn't do it because I have to shell out >$149 to get a registered copy. The program is pretty difficult to >learn as it is. > >Later, >Harold -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf --============_-1204644589==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: sgroup Attention S Group
Why not try creating your own sounds instead of using pre-made sample cd's?? Just a thought.


So,
 
Why is it that we can't create an archive of some sort to retrieve and upload samples. The Roland LCD series is discontinued. There are a thousand other CD-ROM titles that have long since disappeared from the market and could possibly be thrown into the public domain. I really want to use my sampler short of selling it. The General Concepts archives has some really old samples. Plus we need a decent utility that can EASILY create Roland formatted CDRs. I tried using the Chicken Sys crap but couldn't do it because I have to shell out $149 to get a registered copy. The program is pretty difficult to learn as it is.
 
Later,
Harold

--============_-1204644589==_ma============-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 11:03:49 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:03:42 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.49]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:03:36 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.84.226]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011204160332.KAJA13117.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 16:03:32 +0000 Message-ID: <001e01c17cdc$22e3fa60$e254580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Can the Roland S760 read Akai S3000 format? Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:55:45 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C17CB2.395E7880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C17CB2.395E7880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all, A lot of people seem to use the two formats synomously. I want to get a = few sample CDs that are in Akai S3000 format. The manuals say that the = S760 can only read S1000. Dumb question, but could I get this S3000 CD? Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C17CB2.395E7880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey all,
 
A lot of people seem to use the two = formats=20 synomously. I want to get a few sample CDs that are in Akai S3000 = format. The=20 manuals say that the S760 can only read S1000. Dumb question, but could = I get=20 this S3000 CD?
 
Thanks,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C17CB2.395E7880-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 11:11:19 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:11:11 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:11:04 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.84.226]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011204161103.OTKE13869.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 16:11:03 +0000 Message-ID: <003b01c17cdd$2f68d2a0$e254580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Sounds Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:03:15 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01C17CB3.45E350C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C17CB3.45E350C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey OMZ, . . . Becuase creating my own samples is time consuming. I bought a = sampler to take advantage of the large volume of sound libraries that = are already in existance. Get a synth, you're stuck with those sounds. = Get a sampler and you supposedly have access to an unlimited number of = sounds. Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C17CB3.45E350C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey OMZ,
 
. . . Becuase creating my own samples = is time=20 consuming. I bought a sampler to take advantage of the large volume of = sound=20 libraries that are already in existance. Get a synth, you're stuck with = those=20 sounds. Get a sampler and you supposedly have access to an unlimited = number of=20 sounds.
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C17CB3.45E350C0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 11:11:45 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193720-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:11:20 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([196.1.142.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:11:14 -0500 Received: from [208.11.49.36] ([208.11.49.36]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA02644; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:13:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001e01c17cdc$22e3fa60$e254580c@epu1> References: <001e01c17cdc$22e3fa60$e254580c@epu1> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:10:37 -0500 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Can the Roland S760 read Akai S3000 format? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 10:55 am -0500 4/12/2001, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >Hey all, > >A lot of people seem to use the two formats synomously. I want to >get a few sample CDs that are in Akai S3000 format. The manuals say >that the S760 can only read S1000. Dumb question, but could I get >this S3000 CD? > >Thanks, >Harold I have had problems trying to convert S3000 files in the s-760. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 11:24:10 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:24:02 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([196.1.142.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:23:52 -0500 Received: from [208.11.49.36] ([208.11.49.36]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA02990; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:26:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003b01c17cdd$2f68d2a0$e254580c@epu1> References: <003b01c17cdd$2f68d2a0$e254580c@epu1> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:23:20 -0500 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Sounds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:03 am -0500 4/12/2001, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >Hey OMZ, > >. . . Becuase creating my own samples is time consuming. I bought a >sampler to take advantage of the large volume of sound libraries >that are already in existance. Get a synth, you're stuck with those >sounds. Get a sampler and you supposedly have access to an unlimited >number of sounds. > >Thanks, >Harold > but THEY are resources to BUy s-760 samples. www.soundsonline.com www.westlamusic.com www.ilio.com www.sampleheads.com rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 11:25:44 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:25:41 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:25:31 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E523BD4D for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA12405 for <>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:25:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C0CF8F5.000001.18541@statler> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:25:25 -0500 From: blincoln To: Subject: Re: sgroup Attention S Group X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > Why is it that we can't create an archive of some sort to retrieve > and upload samples. The Roland LCD series is discontinued. There > are a thousand other CD-ROM titles that have long since disappeared > from the market and could possibly be thrown into the public domain. There are two main obstacles I see to this: 1) Very few - if any - sample producers would give permission to distribute their material for free. From what I understand, Roland doesn't mind people distributing images of old s30/330/50/550 sample disks, but those are significantly older. 2) Bandwidth. To distribute CD images in Roland format would require the ability to store and download a bunch of ~600MB compressed CD images. Back during the dot-com boom that kind of capacity might have been something you could find, but if anyone wanted to do it now it would cost significant amounts of money. Whoever provided it would have to charge a fee of some kind, and if getting sample producers to allow free distribution of their material would be hard, getting them to allow someone to charge money for it would be next to impossible. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 11:35:06 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193721-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:34:59 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([196.1.142.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193717-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:34:49 -0500 Received: from [208.11.49.36] ([208.11.49.36]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA03326; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:37:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001501c17cda$d480a540$e254580c@epu1> References: <001501c17cda$d480a540$e254580c@epu1> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:34:11 -0500 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Attention S Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 10:46 am -0500 4/12/2001, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >So, > >Why is it that we can't create an archive of some sort to retrieve >and upload samples. The Roland LCD series is discontinued. There are >a thousand other CD-ROM titles that have long since disappeared from >the market and could possibly be thrown into the public domain. I >really want to use my sampler short of selling it. The General >Concepts archives has some really old samples. Plus we need a decent >utility that can EASILY create Roland formatted CDRs. I tried using >the Chicken Sys crap but couldn't do it because I have to shell out >$149 to get a registered copy. The program is pretty difficult to >learn as it is. > >Later, >Harold also althought the LCD series may be discontinued the samples on them aren't. Roland just decided to creat four libraries with them the LCDX series I believe they are called. And I am not a lawyer. but I dont' think if a product has been discontinued makes it legal to be thrown into the public domain. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 11:39:31 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:39:25 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193721-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:39:09 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.84.226]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011204163905.QTYF941.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 16:39:05 +0000 Message-ID: <006f01c17ce1$1a142c20$e254580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Thanks! Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:31:17 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01C17CB7.30870920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C17CB7.30870920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all, Thanks for the link to Sounds On Line! Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C17CB7.30870920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey all,
 
Thanks for the link to Sounds On = Line!
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
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From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 11:43:17 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193735-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:43:11 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193725-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:42:56 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA2DBD0E for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA16000 for <>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:42:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C0CFD0B.000001.18708@statler> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:42:51 -0500 From: blincoln To: Subject: Re: sgroup Attention S Group X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard Sven Patterson wrote: > And I am not a lawyer. but I dont' think > if a product has been discontinued makes it legal to be thrown into > the public domain. This is true. Copyright lasts for the life of the creator plus seventy years, the last time I checked. It doesn't matter if it's commercially available or not. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 13:47:41 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193720-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:47:32 -0500 Received: from paw.te-cats.com (te-cats.com [209.219.60.61]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193719-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:47:05 -0500 Received: from bob.te-cats.com (bob.te-cats.com [199.98.160.250]) by paw.te-cats.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with SMTP id fB4Indt25771 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:49:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200112041849.fB4Indt25771@paw.te-cats.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:46:59 -0500 From: "John H. McCartney" Reply-To: "John H. McCartney" Subject: sgroup OFF: Peavy sample sources To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: JUE7kFfwnn7lDvYHt+rBdw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Off Topic - Can anyone point me towards sources for samples for the Peavy SP/SX sampler? Picked one up for free recently, and while it's pretty nice there weren't many samples with it. Thanks! scorch - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 13:57:34 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:57:27 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193720-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:57:17 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1CFBD43 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA18790 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:57:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C0D1C8B.000001.20978@statler> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:57:15 -0500 From: blincoln To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup OFF: Peavy sample sources X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Wow, I'd assume you'd be pretty much on your own with that one. On t±for using your own sounds. "John H. McCartney" wrote: > Can anyone point me towards sources for samples for the > Peavy SP/SX sampler? Picked one up for free recently, > and while it's pretty nice there weren't many samples > with it. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 13:59:23 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193731-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:59:15 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:59:09 -0500 Received: from user-2ive19c.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.44] helo=mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16BKmV-0005tj-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 04 Dec 2001 13:59:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3C0D1C73.8E0A842F@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:56:51 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Attention S Group References: <001501c17cda$d480a540$e254580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Personally, I haven't gotten into my own sampling in a big way yet because I don't have a hard drive or optical drive. Which brings up the question, which mass storage solution are you using for your S-700 and why? And how do you go about making your own sample CD-ROMs for your S-700? omz wrote: > > Why not try creating your own sounds instead of using pre-made sample > cd's?? Just a thought. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 14:35:12 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:35:05 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-15626>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:35:02 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.192]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011204193458.OIWD5540.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 19:34:58 +0000 Message-ID: <001401c17cf9$ac069ce0$c055580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Attention S Group Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:27:10 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C17CCF.C2471F40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C17CCF.C2471F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, To answer the quesiton, I use a Zip 100 drive. I use these drives = becuase they are ecomonical, easy to find and handle. Also, I can use = the Zips directly with my PC. As far as making S760 CD-ROMs with a = Windows PC, I don't know. They say this can be done using a Mac - What = else is new? Later, Harold Personally, I haven't gotten into my own sampling in a big way yet because I don't have a hard drive or optical drive. Which brings up the question, which mass storage solution are you using for your S-700 and why? And how do you go about making your own sample CD-ROMs for your S-700? omz wrote: >=20 > Why not try creating your own sounds instead of using pre-made sample > cd's?? Just a thought. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C17CCF.C2471F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
To answer the quesiton, I use a Zip 100 = drive. I=20 use these drives becuase they are ecomonical, easy to find and handle. = Also, I=20 can use the Zips directly with my PC. As far as making S760 CD-ROMs with = a=20 Windows PC, I don't know. They say this can be done using a Mac - = What else=20 is new?
 
Later,
Harold
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Personally, I haven't gotten into my = own sampling=20 in a big way yet
because I don't have a hard drive or optical=20 drive.

Which brings up the question, which mass storage solution = are you=20 using
for your S-700 and why?

And how do you go about making = your own=20 sample CD-ROMs for your S-700?

omz wrote:
>
> Why = not try=20 creating your own sounds instead of using pre-made sample
> cd's?? = Just a=20 thought.

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From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 14:44:42 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:44:33 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([196.1.142.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:44:29 -0500 Received: from [208.11.49.36] ([208.11.49.36]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA08690; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:46:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001401c17cf9$ac069ce0$c055580c@epu1> References: <001401c17cf9$ac069ce0$c055580c@epu1> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:43:33 -0500 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Attention S Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > As far as making S760 CD-ROMs with a Windows PC, I don't know. They >say this can be done using a Mac - What else is new? > lol....that's so ironic to me.. I am die hard mac user, but feel that WE get short change like acid, and gigasampler and tons of freeware software librarians and internet phone service etc :-). I guess the grass is always greener on teh other side :-) rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 14:49:13 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193720-14333>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:49:06 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (64-169-229-2.ded.pacbell.net [64.169.229.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193717-14333>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:48:56 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fB4JmkY37293 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:48:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193728-15625>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:52:21 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id fB4GoKRi020965 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GNTW7700.I4D for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:52:19 -0800 Received: from localhost ([63.172.79.234]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GNTW7400.94Y for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 08:52:16 -0800 Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:52:16 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Attention S Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v475) From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <3C0CF8F5.000001.18541@statler> Message-Id: <46281714-E8D7-11D5-93EF-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.475) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, Just a couple quick things: first, the Roland CD series *is* still available, but it's called LCDX now. The LCDX discs are just repackaging of the LCDP libraries, combining 2-4 LCDP discs into a single LCDX volume. They cost $200-400 US depending on which one you get. Any Roland dealer should be able to order them, and I found them online pretty easily. (www.savedbytechnology.com has them at a decent price, for example.) I didn't know about LCDX until I called Roland product support, and sure enough, it's there on their web site and everything. Second, not all CDs are 600MB. My two Roland CDs are about 150MB each. Others may pack more on there. One would suppose that users (i.e. us) could take a spare hard disk and make our own CD images. I've been meaning to give this a shot anyway for backup purposes. (If I don't, I'll be *very* sad when that old disk I'm using finally dies.) Regardless, that's still a fair bit of bandwidth and server space. I certainly like the idea of a user-contributed archive. As others have pointed out, you can't just stick existing sample libraries on web sites without permission -- and I'd get written permission -- from the copyright holders. But perhaps there are enough people here who have their own original samples that would be willing to contribute. Best regards, Josh On Tuesday, December 4, 2001, at 09:25 AM, blincoln wrote: > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > >> Why is it that we can't create an archive of some sort to retrieve >> and upload samples. The Roland LCD series is discontinued. There >> are a thousand other CD-ROM titles that have long since disappeared >> from the market and could possibly be thrown into the public domain. > > There are two main obstacles I see to this: > > 1) Very few - if any - sample producers would give permission to > distribute their material for free. From what I understand, Roland > doesn't mind people distributing images of old s30/330/50/550 sample > disks, but those are significantly older. > 2) Bandwidth. To distribute CD images in Roland format would require > the ability to store and download a bunch of ~600MB compressed CD > images. Back during the dot-com boom that kind of capacity might have > been something you could find, but if anyone wanted to do it now it > would cost significant amounts of money. Whoever provided it would > have to charge a fee of some kind, and if getting sample producers to > allow free distribution of their material would be hard, getting them > to allow someone to charge money for it would be next to impossible. > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 15:44:02 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-18440>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:43:54 -0500 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14333>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:43:50 -0500 Received: from user-2ive09i.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.50] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16BMPq-0003JB-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 04 Dec 2001 15:43:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3C0D34F9.C3C2354F@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 15:41:29 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Attention S Group References: <001501c17cda$d480a540$e254580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk From what folks are saying, it looks like I'm going to get a Zip 100Mb drive for data storage. I still need to get my S-760 fixed, but once I start converting my wav. files to Roland format and saving them on zip drive, I'll start swapping zip drives if anyone is interested. These will be wav. files I've downloaded from the internet as well as my own sampling so there shouldn't be any copyright concerns. By the way, I came upon this site last night - it's a site where you can get sample CDs, soundfonts, etc., and judging from the demos they sound pretty darn good, especially some Hammond B3 sounds. Unfortunately, no Roland format. http://www.sonicimplants.com/ Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 17:32:47 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-14333>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:32:38 -0500 Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-14333>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:32:28 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.49.14f88adf (3981) for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:32:18 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <49.14f88adf.293ea8f2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:32:18 -0500 Subject: sgroup sounds needed for my cd rom To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_49.14f88adf.293ea8f2_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_49.14f88adf.293ea8f2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently put a scsi cd rom together for my s760 and need sounds on cd. Could someone tell me the different ways I can get sound onto my cd rom? I don't just want to buy cds but if there is a way to copy files to a cd or via scsi or whatever I would appreciate it as well. I understand that besides the Roland CDs I can also use Akai S1000 [is it?] sounds as well. Where do I get these as well as other types of sounds for download if at all possible. Thanks Dave H. --part1_49.14f88adf.293ea8f2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently put a scsi cd rom together for my s760 and need sounds on cd. Could someone tell me the different ways I can get sound onto my cd rom? I don't just want to buy cds but if there is a way to copy files to a cd or via scsi or whatever I would appreciate it as well.

I understand that besides the Roland CDs I can also use Akai S1000 [is it?] sounds as well. Where do I get these as well as other types of sounds for download if at all possible.

Thanks
Dave H. --part1_49.14f88adf.293ea8f2_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 20:17:18 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-18440>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:17:11 -0500 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18440>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:17:06 -0500 Received: from [217.87.82.79] (helo=[217.87.82.79]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #26) id 16BQgG-0003Ra-00; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 02:17:00 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1624) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:10:31 -0500 Subject: sgroup Drive Recommendation: From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: Jesse Segovia , Sampler Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3C0D1C73.8E0A842F@mindspring.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I made good experiences with ZIP 100MB and: -> an Olympus 230MB Optical Drive (220 DM/about 100 USD - 1 Medium for less than 10 USD) beat that! -and compatible with 540 MB MO-Drives -and you can Convert-Load AKAI 1000 formatted MOs from your mate as a bonus (as you can with a ZIP):-) I have designated Media for soundlibrarys with lots of Patches (yes I sample a lot and create my own drumsets and padsounds) and Media for Songs with Performances, in wich I save Patches and Partials with Volume ID for the Song (*********.SNG) to be able to change Filter or Envelopes for each Song, witzhout affecting my "Standard"Sets. btw...I almost never use my CD-ROM-Drive...it's so sloooow;-) Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen > Von: Jesse Segovia > Personally, I haven't gotten into my own sampling in a big way yet > because I don't have a hard drive or optical drive. > > Which brings up the question, which mass storage solution are you using > for your S-700 and why? > > And how do you go about making your own sample CD-ROMs for your S-700? > > omz wrote: >> >> Why not try creating your own sounds instead of using pre-made sample >> cd's?? Just a thought. YES, THAT'S THE BEST ADVICE FOR ALL OF YOU !!!!!!!!!!! For Standard Sounds you will go better with a JVxx80 ;-) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 20:17:20 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-18440>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:17:11 -0500 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-18440>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:17:08 -0500 Received: from [217.87.82.79] (helo=[217.87.82.79]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #26) id 16BQgI-0003Ra-00; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 02:17:02 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1624) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:10:31 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Can the Roland S760 read Akai S3000 format? From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: Richard Sven Patterson , "Harold Everton, Jr." , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk NO WAY !!! :-( Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> A lot of people seem to use the two formats synomously. I want to >> get a few sample CDs that are in Akai S3000 format. The manuals say >> that the S760 can only read S1000. Dumb question, but could I get >> this S3000 CD? >> >> Thanks, >> Harold > > I have had problems trying to convert S3000 files in the s-760. > rsp > -- > richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 4 21:12:40 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-18440>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:12:34 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-18440>; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:12:19 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.43]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011205021208.MDTP7926.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 02:12:08 +0000 Message-ID: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 21:04:19 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C17D07.3D8EDB20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C17D07.3D8EDB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, Yeah, I'm about to do that. I love the Roland S760 but there's like = nothing available for it - sounds and utilities. I don't know why all of you = sweat the Roland library so much, the sounds on them are NOT all that. At = least the XV5080 will let you throw in Akai S3000 and .Wav files. I think I'm going to trade in my S760 for an Emu 4XT or E5000 while the S760's = resell value is still decent. A sampler is only as good as the library and = resources that are available for it. I' not trying to waste my time = sampling my own sounds, I'm a grad student, work full time. I want = sounds already available (not loops either). Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C17D07.3D8EDB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,

Yeah, I'm about to do = that. I love=20 the Roland S760  but there's like nothing
available for it - = sounds and=20 utilities. I don't know why all of you sweat
the Roland library so = much, the=20 sounds on them are NOT all that. At least
the XV5080 will let you = throw in=20 Akai S3000 and .Wav files. I think I'm
going to trade in my S760 for = an Emu=20 4XT or E5000 while the S760's resell
value is still decent. A sampler = is only=20 as good as the library and resources that are available for it. I' not = trying to=20 waste my time sampling my own sounds, I'm a grad student, work full = time. I want=20 sounds already available (not loops either).


Thanks,
Harold


= ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C17D07.3D8EDB20-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 04:54:57 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 04:54:49 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 04:54:46 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.209]) by tweakhead.com ; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 02:50:35 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Anyone thinking of trashing their Roland samplers? Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 02:50:35 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <100753863501@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I love my S760, but it's a pain not having the many resources that some of >those Yamaha A users, Emu E users, Kurzweil K users and Akai S users have >that we don't. Agreed, but also keep in mind that some of the functionality of the S-7xx series is only just now appearing in those machines in terms of facility of editing, etc. >All of the samplers have tons of free samples out on the >web. All of these users have tons of utilities that can format drives and >CD for use on their machines. All of these guys have companies supporting >their formats. I would not say those machines have "tons" of free samples out on the web. If you know of some web-resource that we do not, please share it! I agree however that .aiff/.wav support would be most welcome. And while Roland format is not an industry-standard, some of the quality companies do continue to support it to this day. Also note that most Yamaha and E-mu users are left out in the cold...the standard formats now are Akai and Gigasampler. >The Roland S760 is a great machine, but I'm starting to feel like a >Commodore 64 or Commodore Amiga user. Great machine, but little support >and few resources. This sucks. Any of you get the same feeling? Those >Yamaha As and Emu Es are starting to look real nice about now. Plus, the >resale value of the S760 is falling sharply now. What do you guys think? I agree with most of that, yes, and perhaps a newer box would suit you well. At the same time, none of them offer the sound of the Roland S-7xx series, and this is of major importance to me. >I love the Roland S760 but there's like nothing available for it - >sounds and utilities. Again, less than Akai for sure, but you of course can load Akai discs, and for that matter, there are far more Roland CDs available than I can afford ;) >A sampler is only as good as the library and >resources that are available for it. I' not trying to waste my time >sampling my own sounds, I'm a grad student, work full time. I want sounds >already available (not loops either). Then perhaps your uses for a sampler are different and another box would suit you well. A used K2000R goes for under $600, and can load most everything under the sun, and has far more synthesis power as well...but it is apples and oranges. I do tend to program my own sounds for my Roland DJ-70mkII...I sample and or synthesize my own waveforms, loop them in Infinity Looper on the Mac and send them over. I plan to get a used S-760 at some point for the visual editing. The simple fact is I love the filters and sound of the S-7xx series...it is like having a Roland JD-990 (which I also own) with your choice of waveforms for the oscs...this is a lovely thing. Given the price and power of a E-mu E6400 Ultra with the RFX, a Roland XV-5080 with RAM and the Kurzweil K2600R, I would go with the Kurzweil all night and day...but you need to ask yourself some hard questions about why you want a sampler. If it is for the purpose of having quality libraries without doing any programming, you might be better served by a copy of Halion 1.1, which can load Giga libraries. ;) cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 05:31:07 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 05:30:59 -0500 Received: from pikus.o2.pl ([212.126.20.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 05:30:55 -0500 Received: from j0u1l5 (dial1106.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl [217.30.134.90]) by pikus.o2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id B0C2814764C for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:28:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <001201c17d78$5d490aa0$5a861ed9@j0u1l5> From: "slaq" To: References: <100753863501@europa.your-site.com> Subject: Odp: sgroup Anyone thinking of trashing their Roland samplers? Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 05:34:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > I agree with most of that, yes, and perhaps a newer box would suit you > well. At the same time, none of them offer the sound of the Roland S-7xx > series, and this is of major importance to me. > aeon ~ have you ever had a chance to compare roland s7xxs [in terms of sound quality] to other boxes? before i bought mine i had used early akais only... slaq - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 08:00:49 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:00:43 -0500 Received: from relay3.bu.edu ([128.197.27.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:00:36 -0500 Received: from acsn05.bu.edu (acsn05.bu.edu [128.197.159.65]) by relay3.bu.edu ((8.9.3.buoit.v1.0)/8.8.5/(BU-RELAY-11/18/99-b2)) with ESMTP id IAA20474 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from bu.edu (dip13-ppp-71.bu.edu [168.122.13.71]) by acsn05.bu.edu ((8.9.3.buoit.v1.0.ACS)/) with ESMTP id HAA55222 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 07:59:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3C0E1A00.242906E7@bu.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 07:58:40 -0500 From: Benjamin Emerson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD NSCPCD47 (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Samplers List Subject: sgroup Playback Only? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I suppose I may get flamed for this, but the recent discussion od CD-ROM libraries has prompted me to ask this: Does anyone use their sampler (Roland or otherwise) for other than emulation of existing instruments? I have a couple of series' of instruments derived from non-musical sources that are incredibly harmonically rich, unique, and very evocative. By taking the sound of a wet finger rubbing various sized wineglass rims, blending them together, and then applying various envelopes, filters, time-stretching, etc. I created one such series. Another I did with a balloon popping, and another with a slinky. Admittedly, I did most of this while in grad school, I mostly use these sounds as a part of my creative palette, but I'm just wondering if anyone else in the group has pursued this kind of use of the sampler's power as a unique instrument in and of itself. -- Benjamin Emerson Audio Supervisor Huntington Theatre Co. Teaching Sound Designer Boston University Theatre Arts Division - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 08:08:53 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:08:44 -0500 Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:08:38 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.2-X An9h) with ESMTP; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:08:24 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup Playback Only? X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:08:20 -0500 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6026CDB76@hati.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Playback Only? Thread-Index: AcF9jR0S3pmgRWq1TJ2bUvEkgQMREwAALU2Q From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Benjamin Emerson" , "Roland Samplers List" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hallo Benjamin! >I have a couple of series' of instruments derived from non-musical >sources that are incredibly harmonically rich, unique, and very >evocative. By taking the sound of a wet finger rubbing various sized >wineglass rims, blending them together, and then applying various >envelopes, filters, time-stretching, etc. I created one such series. >Another I did with a balloon popping, and another with a slinky. Hi! This sounds very interesting for me as I wanted to do the wine glass sampling=20 session last year but could not find any time. Do you have your samples as wave/MP3 files or maybe as S550 sampler disk images? Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. KAPSCH AG / ECCN Control Systems Vienna / Austria ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 08:09:46 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193720-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:09:36 -0500 Received: from intmailvw02.lear.com ([63.68.228.222]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193717-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:09:30 -0500 Received: from 10.0.4.95 by intmailvw02.lear.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 05 Dec 2001 08:09:17 -0500 Received: by inet-imc-01.headquarters.lear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:09:17 -0500 Message-ID: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DA71254@oakville.oakville.lear.com> From: "Gallagher, Jon" To: Sgroup Subject: RE: sgroup Playback Only? Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:09:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey there.. I use my S-50 (yes I'm one of THOSE people.....) exclusively for sampling non-instrument sounds. I use sound effects CD's and "household" type items..(did you know that a truck speeding down a wet highway in front of your house, sampled through a vaccuum cleaner tube is the EXACT same sound a TIE fighter makes in "Star Wars"???) to create little "musique concrete" compositions..This primarily sprang from the fact that when I bought the S-50 I got a handful of sample disks which were USELESS..and also is because I am too lazy to figure out how to download new sounds off the net..*lol* J > -----Original Message----- > From: Benjamin Emerson [SMTP:bemerson@bu.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 7:59 AM > To: Roland Samplers List > Subject: sgroup Playback Only? > > I suppose I may get flamed for this, but the recent discussion od CD-ROM > libraries has prompted me to ask this: Does anyone use their sampler > (Roland or otherwise) for other than emulation of existing instruments? > > I have a couple of series' of instruments derived from non-musical > sources that are incredibly harmonically rich, unique, and very > evocative. By taking the sound of a wet finger rubbing various sized > wineglass rims, blending them together, and then applying various > envelopes, filters, time-stretching, etc. I created one such series. > Another I did with a balloon popping, and another with a slinky. > > Admittedly, I did most of this while in grad school, I mostly use these > sounds as a part of my creative palette, but I'm just wondering if > anyone else in the group has pursued this kind of use of the sampler's > power as a unique instrument in and of itself. > > -- > Benjamin Emerson > Audio Supervisor > Huntington Theatre Co. > Teaching Sound Designer > Boston University Theatre Arts Division > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 09:04:06 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:03:58 -0500 Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.205]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193718-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:03:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 31385 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 14:03:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Dec 2001 14:03:46 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:04:17 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1204565038==_ma============" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --============_-1204565038==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >I' not trying to waste my time sampling my own sounds Waste your time??? Creating your own sounds is wasting your time? Ok...maybe you need a new hobby! -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf --============_-1204565038==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760!
I' not trying to waste my time sampling my own sounds

Waste your time??? Creating your own sounds is wasting your time? Ok...maybe you need a new hobby!


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From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 09:34:53 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193720-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:34:45 -0500 Received: from relay3.bu.edu ([128.197.27.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193719-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:34:35 -0500 Received: from acsn05.bu.edu (acsn05.bu.edu [128.197.159.65]) by relay3.bu.edu ((8.9.3.buoit.v1.0)/8.8.5/(BU-RELAY-11/18/99-b2)) with ESMTP id JAA29046 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:34:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from bu.edu (HUNT-PROD3.BU.EDU [128.197.223.63]) by acsn05.bu.edu ((8.9.3.buoit.v1.0.ACS)/) with ESMTP id JAA49938 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:34:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3C0E305D.54A4558D@bu.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:34:05 -0500 From: Benjamin Emerson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: Sgroup To: Subject: Re: sgroup Playback Only? References: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DA71254@oakville.oakville.lear.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Gallagher, Jon" wrote: (did you know that a truck speeding down a wet highway in front of > your house, sampled through a vaccuum cleaner tube is the EXACT same sound a > TIE fighter makes in "Star Wars"???) That is Sooo cool!! -- Benjamin Emerson Audio Supervisor Huntington Theatre Co. Teaching Sound Designer Boston University Theatre Arts Division - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 09:59:29 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193721-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:59:22 -0500 Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.206]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193720-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:59:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 8563 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 14:58:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Dec 2001 14:58:57 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3C0E305D.54A4558D@bu.edu> References: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DA71254@oakville.oakville.lear.com> <3C0E305D.54A4558D@bu.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:59:27 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Playback Only? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >"Gallagher, Jon" wrote: >(did you know that a truck speeding down a wet highway in front of >> your house, sampled through a vaccuum cleaner tube is the EXACT same sound a > > TIE fighter makes in "Star Wars"???) Now that's what I'm talking about!!!!! -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 11:19:52 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:19:45 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:19:39 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634C5BDBF for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA08389 for <>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:19:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C0E4914.000001.03121@statler> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:19:32 -0500 From: blincoln To: Subject: Re: sgroup Playback Only? X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Benjamin Emerson wrote: > Does anyone use their sampler > (Roland or otherwise) for other than emulation of existing > instruments? Of course. That's the main reason I bought a sampler =). At some point now that I have an Akai S2000 in addition to my S330, I might branch out and pick up some orchestral or choral sample CDs since it's impractical for me to sample that kind of thing myself, but the main reason I started using samplers was to use found sounds as instruments. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 12:49:25 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:49:16 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (tserver.conference.usenix.org [209.179.127.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:49:10 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fB5Hn3W09591 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:49:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.90]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:46:34 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16Bg7m-000JaI-0W for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:46:27 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:45:09 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick Subject: sgroup Helloooo? S50 user in UK ;) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! I wasn't even sure if this group still worked! I'm an S50 user in the UK, I've got a fairly complete system with DT100 and SYS-503 sequencer. I use the machine a lot but haven't recorded anything for a while. I'm trying to find sample disks that don't involve converting on the S50 due to worries about wear and tear on the disk drive, and the little box that clips onto the back of the machine - I know it's hardly essential, but it would be really useful to have the system and frequently used disks in there. I'm also looking for someone in the UK who refurbishes these. Mine suffers from a crackly, low output when cold, as if the samples aren't being read from memory correctly, and the fears about the disk drive failing would be somewhat less if I had a spare ready to drop in! Plus, I've got a Philips CM8833Mk II monitor that I use for this and my CX5MII, and I want to hook up the S-50 to the RGB input so I can switch between them. Finally, is there a way of connecting the DT100 to the S50 /and/ the SYS-503 dongle? Whilst on the DT100, has anyone patched the OS so that the default for AUX controller is ON? I'm sure these are all FAQs, but I haven't seen any posts on this list since I joined! Is anyone out there?! Richard -- Ambient and Electronica Experimental music. |\ _,,,---,,_ Synths: CX5MII/128 - Korg M1 - Rolands D-50, S-50 /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, SH-101, JD-800 - Casio CZ. Recorded on iMac. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Music: http://www.mp3.com/RichardKilpatrick/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 14:24:27 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:24:18 -0500 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-958>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:24:15 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id fB5JJVRi004693 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GNVXWD00.G7Q for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:24:13 -0800 Received: from localhost ([63.172.79.66]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GNVXWC00.PRG for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:24:12 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:24:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v475) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: sgroup dirt cheap SCSI drives, etc. at OWC From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.475) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, I saw some questions about mass storage flying around. Just found this clearance page at OWC: http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=510&Title=&Template=1 Some total bargains there on hard drives, e.g. 540MB drive for $10 or a "10 pack" (!) of 200MB drives for $20. Yow. Some good prices on old CD-ROM drives that would work with the Rolands, too ($10-$25). Note that you'll still need a powered enclosure with any of these. They have some of those, too, for $10. Bargain hounds rejoice! I went ahead and bought a 540MB drive as a backup in case my ancient 700MB drive fails -- $15 after shipping. FWIW, I've bought stuff from OWC before and they're a good dealer. -Josh - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 14:49:27 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:49:20 -0500 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:49:17 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16Bi2a-000Kpq-0B for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 19:49:12 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:46:10 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick Subject: sgroup Helloooo? S50 user in UK ;) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! I wasn't even sure if this group still worked! I'm an S50 user in the UK, I've got a fairly complete system with DT100 and SYS-503 sequencer. I use the machine a lot but haven't recorded anything for a while. I'm trying to find sample disks that don't involve converting on the S50 due to worries about wear and tear on the disk drive, and the little box that clips onto the back of the machine - I know it's hardly essential, but it would be really useful to have the system and frequently used disks in there. I'm also looking for someone in the UK who refurbishes these. Mine suffers from a crackly, low output when cold, as if the samples aren't being read from memory correctly, and the fears about the disk drive failing would be somewhat less if I had a spare ready to drop in! Plus, I've got a Philips CM8833Mk II monitor that I use for this and my CX5MII, and I want to hook up the S-50 to the RGB input so I can switch between them. Finally, is there a way of connecting the DT100 to the S50 /and/ the SYS-503 dongle? Whilst on the DT100, has anyone patched the OS so that the default for AUX controller is ON? I'm sure these are all FAQs, but I haven't seen any posts on this list since I joined! Is anyone out there?! Richard -- Ambient and Electronica Experimental music. |\ _,,,---,,_ Synths: CX5MII/128 - Korg M1 - Rolands D-50, S-50 /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, SH-101, JD-800 - Casio CZ. Recorded on iMac. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Music: http://www.mp3.com/RichardKilpatrick/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 15:26:44 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:26:39 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:26:29 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.209]) by tweakhead.com ; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 15:26:24 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Playback Only? Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:26:23 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Roland Samplers List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <100758398501@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I suppose I may get flamed for this, but the recent discussion od CD-ROM >libraries has prompted me to ask this: Does anyone use their sampler >(Roland or otherwise) for other than emulation of existing instruments? Absolutely...80% of the time I treat my Roland sampler as a synthesizer with a user-controllable wave generator. cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 15:47:03 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:46:55 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-957>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:46:51 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.209]) by tweakhead.com ; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 15:43:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Odp: sgroup Anyone thinking of trashing their Roland samplers? Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:43:55 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "slaq" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <100758503801@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> I agree with most of that, yes, and perhaps a newer box would suit you >> well. At the same time, none of them offer the sound of the Roland S-7xx >> series, and this is of major importance to me. >~ have you ever had a chance to compare roland s7xxs [in terms of sound >quality] to other boxes? >before i bought mine i had used early akais only... yes...the Rolands have an "organic warmth" that the others lack. this is not to say it is better...but for the sounds I use my Roland for, it is a good thing. I like Akais for drums. cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 18:56:14 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27370>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:56:07 -0500 Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.165]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19347>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:55:57 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.86.13c445bb (4050) for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:55:39 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <86.13c445bb.29400dfa@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:55:38 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup dirt cheap SCSI drives, etc. at OWC To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_86.13c445bb.29400dfa_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_86.13c445bb.29400dfa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Josh. That will help me. Dave H. >>Hi all, I saw some questions about mass storage flying around. Just found this clearance page at OWC: http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=510&Title=&Template=1 Some total bargains there on hard drives, e.g. 540MB drive for $10 or a "10 pack" (!) of 200MB drives for $20. Yow. Some good prices on old CD-ROM drives that would work with the Rolands, too ($10-$25). Note that you'll still need a powered enclosure with any of these. They have some of those, too, for $10. Bargain hounds rejoice! I went ahead and bought a 540MB drive as a backup in case my ancient 700MB drive fails -- $15 after shipping. FWIW, I've bought stuff from OWC before and they're a good dealer. -Josh<< --part1_86.13c445bb.29400dfa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Josh. That will help me.

Dave H.

>>Hi all,

I saw some questions about mass storage flying around. Just found this
clearance page at OWC:

http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=510&Title=&Template=1

Some total bargains there on hard drives, e.g. 540MB drive for $10 or a
"10 pack" (!) of 200MB drives for $20. Yow. Some good prices on old
CD-ROM drives that would work with the Rolands, too ($10-$25). Note that
you'll still need a powered enclosure with any of these. They have some
of those, too, for $10. Bargain hounds rejoice!

I went ahead and bought a 540MB drive as a backup in case my ancient
700MB drive fails -- $15 after shipping. FWIW, I've bought stuff from
OWC before and they're a good dealer.

-Josh<< --part1_86.13c445bb.29400dfa_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 5 20:14:12 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19347>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:14:07 -0500 Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19347>; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:13:56 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.d3.2d5ce73 (18708) for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:13:47 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:13:47 -0500 Subject: sgroup Quiet samples To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d3.2d5ce73.2940204b_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_d3.2d5ce73.2940204b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to sample directly into the s760 from the Korg X5Dr [Korg stereo outs to s760 stereo in] but the signal is very low and because of it I get hiss. Is there a cleaner way to do this in the s760 settings maybe? All the levels are set correctly on the Korg and the wires are good. If I play harder it still won't help me reach a reasonable level. I am thinking there must be something in the s760 that can remedy this situation without me having to connect the Korg to a Noise Gate [I only have a dbx 266XL] or something first. If I use the dbx266XL I still get the hiss. I cannot go through the mixer since it's a little noisier. I am monitoring through my headphones. Thanks Dave --part1_d3.2d5ce73.2940204b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to sample directly into the s760 from the Korg X5Dr [Korg stereo outs to s760 stereo in] but the signal is very low and because of it I get hiss. Is there a cleaner way to do this in the s760 settings maybe? All the levels are set correctly on the Korg and the wires are good.

If I play harder it still won't help me reach a reasonable level. I am thinking there must be something in the s760 that can remedy this situation without me having to connect the Korg to a Noise Gate [I only have a dbx 266XL] or something first.

If I use the dbx266XL I still get the hiss.  I cannot go through the mixer since it's a little noisier. I am monitoring through my headphones.

Thanks
Dave --part1_d3.2d5ce73.2940204b_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 00:40:08 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:39:59 -0500 Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.162]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:39:56 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.2d.1544a616 (2615) for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:39:48 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <2d.1544a616.29405ea3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:39:47 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup dirt cheap SCSI drives, etc. at OWC To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d.1544a616.29405ea3_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_2d.1544a616.29405ea3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Josh I did not find any 540MB SCSI drives, CDROMS or cases at that price. Please provide the appropriate directory. Thanks Dave H. >>Hi all, I saw some questions about mass storage flying around. Just found this clearance page at OWC: http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=510&Title=&Template=1 Some total bargains there on hard drives, e.g. 540MB drive for $10 or a "10 pack" (!) of 200MB drives for $20. Yow. Some good prices on old CD-ROM drives that would work with the Rolands, too ($10-$25). Note that you'll still need a powered enclosure with any of these. They have some of those, too, for $10. Bargain hounds rejoice! I went ahead and bought a 540MB drive as a backup in case my ancient 700MB drive fails -- $15 after shipping. FWIW, I've bought stuff from OWC before and they're a good dealer. -Josh<< --part1_2d.1544a616.29405ea3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Josh I did not find any 540MB SCSI drives, CDROMS or cases at that price. Please provide the appropriate directory.

Thanks
Dave H.

>>Hi all,

I saw some questions about mass storage flying around. Just found this
clearance page at OWC:

http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=510&Title=&Template=1

Some total bargains there on hard drives, e.g. 540MB drive for $10 or a
"10 pack" (!) of 200MB drives for $20. Yow. Some good prices on old
CD-ROM drives that would work with the Rolands, too ($10-$25). Note that
you'll still need a powered enclosure with any of these. They have some
of those, too, for $10. Bargain hounds rejoice!

I went ahead and bought a 540MB drive as a backup in case my ancient
700MB drive fails -- $15 after shipping. FWIW, I've bought stuff from
OWC before and they're a good dealer.

-Josh<< --part1_2d.1544a616.29405ea3_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 08:17:21 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:17:12 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:17:06 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.109]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011206131700.CUOG13869.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:17:00 +0000 Message-ID: <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "omz" , References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:09:06 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C17E2D.4682F460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C17E2D.4682F460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760!Oh Please, People, everyone buys their instruments for their own purposes. I did = not buy a sampler to waste my time creating/sampling sounds. I work in = Pop, R&B, Rock and Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and compose my tunes. = I have what I want to do in my head and I write it out on manuscript or = I play it. Sampling my own sounds would hamper that process and would = waste time in my opinion. If you disagree wit that, good for you, but = that's not what I got my sampler for. I got my sampler to have access to = an unlimited number of soudns rather than the static one (which I could = get tired of) in my Roland XP60. This is why I keep asking for resources = to sounds. People these days buy samplers for their sound libraries = anyway. Later, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: omz=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 8:04 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! I' not trying to waste my time sampling my own sounds Waste your time??? Creating your own sounds is wasting your time? = Ok...maybe you need a new hobby! ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C17E2D.4682F460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760!
Oh Please,
 
People, everyone buys their instruments = for their=20 own purposes. I did not buy a sampler to waste my time creating/sampling = sounds.=20 I work in Pop, R&B, Rock and Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and = compose my=20 tunes. I have what I want to do in my head and I write it out on = manuscript or I=20 play it. Sampling my own sounds would hamper that process and would = waste time=20 in my opinion. If you disagree wit that, good for you, but that's not = what I got=20 my sampler for. I got my sampler to have access to an unlimited number = of soudns=20 rather than the static one (which I could get tired of) in my Roland = XP60. This=20 is why I keep asking for resources to sounds. People these days buy = samplers for=20 their sound libraries anyway.
 
Later,
Harold
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 omz
To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, = 2001 8:04=20 AM
Subject: Re: sgroup Possible = Goodbye for=20 S760!

I' not trying to waste = my time=20 sampling my own sounds

Waste your time??? Creating your own sounds is wasting your = time?=20 Ok...maybe you need a new hobby!


------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C17E2D.4682F460-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 08:33:57 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:33:48 -0500 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:33:38 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16ByeV-0004U9-0K for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:33:28 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:33:22 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> In-Reply-To: <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. writes > People, everyone buys their instruments for their own purposes. I > did not buy a sampler to waste my time creating/sampling sounds. I > work in Pop, R&B, Rock and Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and > compose my tunes. I have what I want to do in my head and I write > it out on manuscript or I play it. Sampling my own sounds would > hamper that process and would waste time in my opinion. Perhaps, but if you consider the possibilities that a sampler would offer in at least three of those genres. /Think out of the box, man/ ;). Seriously, and no disrespect to your choice of music, most Hip-Hop and R&B is horribly derivative. The /good/ stuff breaks the mould, be it with clever lyrics or a new sound. >If you > disagree wit that, good for you, but that's not what I got my > sampler for. I got my sampler to have access to an unlimited number > of soudns rather than the static one (which I could get tired of) > in my Roland XP60. This is why I keep asking for resources to > sounds. People these days buy samplers for their sound libraries > anyway. An XP-60 is hardly a high-end workstation, though. It's almost a consumer level Rompler, a damn good one at that, but nevertheless it's fairly low-end. FWIW you don't get much greater choice of sound or even synthesis resources in an XV - but your system will be so much more robust, your sample disks won't get corrupted because it's ROM. If you're really that irritated with the choice, kill two birds with one stone, get a Triton with the extra RAM and there you have your mid-range ROMpler and a sampler with Akai file compatibility (since you don't want to sample, that's really all you need) in one handy box. In fact, get a KARMA, and it'll even compose for you ;) The off-the-shelf library for the S7XX series /is/ small because of the Akai's domination of the market. However, many utilities exist to convert existing sample libraries (even, heaven forbid, finding one you like, playing it back into the S760 and sampling it there - though you'd have to set your own loop points). I haven't sampled much with my S-50 - it's not the easiest thing to work with - but I'm looking forward to getting into it when I have more time for music. Richard -- Richard Kilpatrick |\ _,,,---,,_ Does entropy apply to love? -- RK /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, E-Mail: richardlovecraft.demon.co.uk |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 08:52:32 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:52:26 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (f190.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.190]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:52:19 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 05:52:18 -0800 Received: from 131.116.254.197 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 13:52:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [131.116.254.197] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: jsegovia@mindspring.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Anyone thinking of trashing their Roland samplers? Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:52:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Dec 2001 13:52:18.0186 (UTC) FILETIME=[382176A0:01C17E5D] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Jesse, I agree with you completely. There is a warmth in the Roland samplers that is hard to find in other brands. Sure, they do give you ( in the best case) a perfect replication of the original sound if that is what you are after at all times, but i dont think that the S-series got popular just because of that. I remember a long time ago when a friend of mine had a S-550 and i had (and still have..) a Yamaha TX16W, both 12 bit samplers. The roland box beat my Yamaha in sound, editing and general useability. The reason that i bought the Yamaha A3000 was that i have a bunch of Akai CD:s that i want to use somehow. I have a soundcard (Terratec EWS64 XL, or should i call it Terrortec..) that has a onboard soundengine with 64 voices, DSP effects and the ability to load Akai S1000 cd:s. But the DA converters on this card are just not up to the job. So i found a better, used A3K for ~450USD (4500 SEK) with an on-board scsi harddrive (1GB) + sound library. I was originally after a Emu ESI-4000 (same pricerange) but fell for the Yamaha device due to the fact that it had more features than the ESI. I think 400 USD is a fair price if it is in good shape. If you compare the sound of what the Yamaha produces and what you sample in the first place, it is very hard/impossible to tell the difference between the two. The only crappy thing about the Yamaha is (and has always been) the user interface. With all those parameters, filters, bells & whistles, you would expect more than a 2*40 characters display ;) Sure, the bigger A4K and A5k has bigger displays, but i've heard that their midi timing lacks precision, rendering them almost useless. The A3k has 4 separate outputs and scsi interface as standard. There is also an 'AEIB1' I/O option card available which offers 6 assignable outputs (for 10 outputs at all) and coaxial/optical digital I/O. Kind regards Daniel > >Wow, what did you pay for it? There's one on ebay right now for $400. >Do you have to pay separately for a CD-ROM or will it use the same >CD-ROM you use for your S-760? How many outputs? Most importantly, how >does it sound? As good as the S-760? > >Equipment!!!! Right now I'm not buying anything; the current economy is >playing havoc with my business, but once things turn around (and they >will), what to buy next? I've been thinking about a really good >microphone like a Rodes NT-1 or NT-1000, an 88-key weighted keyboard >controller like a used Roland, maybe more sample CDs for my S-760, and >maybe a Waves56K FX expansion board for my AW4416. But a 16-bit sampler >that will play wav. files and Akai sample CDs in native format? Just >one more thing to put on my list that I certainly don't need and that I >probably won't ever buy. 8-) > >Jesse > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:17:55 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:17:47 -0500 Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.206]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:17:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 6344 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 14:17:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Dec 2001 14:17:31 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:18:04 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1204477811==_ma============" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --============_-1204477811==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > I did not buy a sampler to waste my time creating/sampling sounds. I still can't get over this statement... >I work in Pop, R&B, Rock and Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and >compose my tunes. I have what I want to do in my head and I write it >out on manuscript or I play it. Sampling my own sounds would hamper >that process and would waste time in my opinion. If you disagree wit >that, good for you, but that's not what I got my sampler for. I got >my sampler to have access to an unlimited number of soudns rather >than the static one (which I could get tired of) in my Roland XP60. >This is why I keep asking for resources to sounds. People these days >buy samplers for their sound libraries anyway. People these days also buy instruments that haven't been out of production for almost 10 years and then complain about lack of support/sound libraries for the machine. -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf --============_-1204477811==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760!
 I did not buy a sampler to waste my time creating/sampling sounds.

I still can't get over this statement...
I work in Pop, R&B, Rock and Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and compose my tunes. I have what I want to do in my head and I write it out on manuscript or I play it. Sampling my own sounds would hamper that process and would waste time in my opinion. If you disagree wit that, good for you, but that's not what I got my sampler for. I got my sampler to have access to an unlimited number of soudns rather than the static one (which I could get tired of) in my Roland XP60. This is why I keep asking for resources to sounds. People these days buy samplers for their sound libraries anyway.

People these days also buy instruments that haven't been out of production for almost 10 years and then complain about lack of support/sound libraries for the machine.
--============_-1204477811==_ma============-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:25:34 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:25:27 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.50]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:25:24 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.109]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011206142514.WNT15547.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:25:14 +0000 Message-ID: <00b801c17e60$ba090cc0$6d55580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "omz" , References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:16:50 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C17E36.BCABE440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C17E36.BCABE440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760!Okay EOS, I don't have to buy a sampler to confine to te reason why you bought = yours. The reason why the Sample CD business thrives is for the same = exact reason why the patch business did uears ago, PEOPLE WANT SOUNDS. = If people wanted to waste time making and samplig their own, there = wouldn't be hundreds of SAMPLE CD vendors thriving the way the do today. "People these days also buy instruments that haven't been out of = production for almost 10 years and then complain about lack of = support/sound libraries for the machine" This is what I said I was gong to trash my Roland S760 for a newer = machine. I bought the Roland on the premise that I only have and use = Roland equipment and that this sampler was recommended by many, many = sources. Keep your sampler to make sounds while I create a huge bibrary = of sounds that I can USE. If I decide to keep my S760 (which I probably = would end up doing anyway), it would be to access a library of ready = made sounds. It's why I bought my synth and why I (me, not you) bought = my sampler. Thanks, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: omz=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:18 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! I did not buy a sampler to waste my time creating/sampling sounds. I still can't get over this statement... I work in Pop, R&B, Rock and Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and = compose my tunes. I have what I want to do in my head and I write it out = on manuscript or I play it. Sampling my own sounds would hamper that = process and would waste time in my opinion. If you disagree wit that, = good for you, but that's not what I got my sampler for. I got my sampler = to have access to an unlimited number of soudns rather than the static = one (which I could get tired of) in my Roland XP60. This is why I keep = asking for resources to sounds. People these days buy samplers for their = sound libraries anyway. People these days also buy instruments that haven't been out of = production for almost 10 years and then complain about lack of = support/sound libraries for the machine. ------=_NextPart_000_00B3_01C17E36.BCABE440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760!
Okay EOS,
 
I don't have to buy a sampler to = confine to te=20 reason why you bought yours. The reason why the Sample CD business = thrives is=20 for the same exact reason why the patch business did uears ago, PEOPLE = WANT=20 SOUNDS. If people wanted to waste time making and samplig their own, = there=20 wouldn't be hundreds of SAMPLE CD vendors thriving the way the do=20 today.
 
"People these days also buy instruments = that=20 haven't been out of production for almost 10 years and then complain = about lack=20 of support/sound libraries for the machine"
 
This is what I said I was gong to trash = my Roland=20 S760 for a newer machine. I bought the Roland on the premise that I only = have=20 and use Roland equipment and that this sampler was recommended by many, = many=20 sources. Keep your sampler to make sounds while I create a huge bibrary = of=20 sounds that I can USE. If I decide to keep my S760 (which I probably = would end=20 up doing anyway), it would be to access a library of ready made sounds. = It's why=20 I bought my synth and why I (me, not you) bought my = sampler.
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 omz
To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Sent: Thursday, December 06, = 2001 8:18=20 AM
Subject: Re: sgroup Possible = Goodbye for=20 S760!

 I did not buy a = sampler to=20 waste my time creating/sampling sounds.

I still can't get over this statement...
I work in Pop, R&B, = Rock and=20 Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and compose my tunes. I have what I = want to=20 do in my head and I write it out on manuscript or I play it. = Sampling my own=20 sounds would hamper that process and would waste time in my opinion. = If you=20 disagree wit that, good for you, but that's not what I got my = sampler for. I=20 got my sampler to have access to an unlimited number of soudns = rather than=20 the static one (which I could get tired of) in my Roland XP60. This = is why I=20 keep asking for resources to sounds. People these days buy samplers = for=20 their sound libraries anyway.

People these days also buy instruments that haven't been out of=20 production for almost 10 years and then complain about lack of = support/sound=20 libraries for the machine.
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From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:30:02 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:29:54 -0500 Received: from obelix.ingeniweb.com ([213.186.34.198]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:29:51 -0500 Received: from mouli.net (localhost.ingeniweb.com [127.0.0.1]) by obelix.ingeniweb.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) with SMTP id fB6ETfM86273 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:29:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from grizel@mouli.net) Received: from 212.194.37.136 (SquirrelMail authenticated user grizel@mouli.net) by www.mail.ingeniweb.com with HTTP; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:29:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <35310.212.194.37.136.1007648986.squirrel@www.mail.ingeniweb.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:29:46 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! From: To: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.0 [rc1]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > In message <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. > writes > >>If you >> disagree wit that, good for you, but that's not what I got my >> sampler for. I got my sampler to have access to an unlimited number >> of soudns rather than the static one (which I could get tired of) >> in my Roland XP60. This is why I keep asking for resources to >> sounds. People these days buy samplers for their sound libraries >> anyway. > > An XP-60 is hardly a high-end workstation, though. It's almost a > consumer level Rompler, a damn good one at that, but nevertheless it's > fairly low-end. FWIW you don't get much greater choice of sound or even > synthesis resources in an XV - but your system will be so much more > robust, your sample disks won't get corrupted because it's ROM. If > you're really that irritated with the choice, kill two birds with one > stone, get a Triton with the extra RAM and there you have your > mid-range ROMpler and a sampler with Akai file compatibility (since you > don't want to sample, that's really all you need) in one handy box. In > fact, get a KARMA, and it'll even compose for you ;) > Or with an extra ammount of money, just get a Kurzweil K2600. You get a ROMpler, a sampler, a synthesizer and a real-time effects box in only one product. All my music is based on my now familiar S550 and a K2500. If I want the best piano I get the K2500. If I want a vintage rhodes sound, I get the S550. I'm happy. Regards, P.-J. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:31:07 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:30:57 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:30:51 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.109]) by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011206143044.DYBX13869.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:30:44 +0000 Message-ID: <00dc01c17e61$7dd7b2a0$6d55580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Richard Kilpatrick" , References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:22:43 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Kilpatrick To: Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! > In message <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. > writes > > > > > People, everyone buys their instruments for their own purposes. I > > did not buy a sampler to waste my time creating/sampling sounds. I > > work in Pop, R&B, Rock and Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and > > compose my tunes. I have what I want to do in my head and I write > > it out on manuscript or I play it. Sampling my own sounds would > > hamper that process and would waste time in my opinion. > > Perhaps, but if you consider the possibilities that a sampler would > offer in at least three of those genres. /Think out of the box, man/ ;). > Seriously, and no disrespect to your choice of music, most Hip-Hop and > R&B is horribly derivative. The /good/ stuff breaks the mould, be it > with clever lyrics or a new sound. > > >If you > > disagree wit that, good for you, but that's not what I got my > > sampler for. I got my sampler to have access to an unlimited number > > of soudns rather than the static one (which I could get tired of) > > in my Roland XP60. This is why I keep asking for resources to > > sounds. People these days buy samplers for their sound libraries > > anyway. > > An XP-60 is hardly a high-end workstation, though. It's almost a > consumer level Rompler, a damn good one at that, but nevertheless it's > fairly low-end. FWIW you don't get much greater choice of sound or even > synthesis resources in an XV - but your system will be so much more > robust, your sample disks won't get corrupted because it's ROM. If > you're really that irritated with the choice, kill two birds with one > stone, get a Triton with the extra RAM and there you have your mid-range > ROMpler and a sampler with Akai file compatibility (since you don't want > to sample, that's really all you need) in one handy box. In fact, get a > KARMA, and it'll even compose for you ;) > > The off-the-shelf library for the S7XX series /is/ small because of the > Akai's domination of the market. However, many utilities exist to > convert existing sample libraries (even, heaven forbid, finding one you > like, playing it back into the S760 and sampling it there - though you'd > have to set your own loop points). > > I haven't sampled much with my S-50 - it's not the easiest thing to work > with - but I'm looking forward to getting into it when I have more time > for music. > > Richard > -- > Richard Kilpatrick |\ _,,,---,,_ > Does entropy apply to love? -- RK /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, > E-Mail: richardlovecraft.demon.co.uk |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ `'::. > Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:32:43 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:32:35 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:32:28 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.109]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011206143215.QEIY7926.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:32:15 +0000 Message-ID: <00f501c17e61$b4491360$6d55580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Richard Kilpatrick" , Subject: sgroup Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:24:18 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F2_01C17E37.C7C8A100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:32:32 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F2_01C17E37.C7C8A100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Everyone goes straight to break/disrespect on Hip-Hop - Even though it = was only ONE of the genres that I listed. First of all, Hip-Hop is a genre. There is room for originality and not Producers sample. I have a B.A. from the Brooklyn Conservatory and have studied Jazz/Classical all my life (with teachers from Julliard even). However, I LIKE Hip-Hop/R&B, I love Jazz, I love 80s Synth Pop. This is = the music I (not you) want to compose. I don't use loops, breaks, etc. I = bought my sampler so I could get a (for example) cello or Rhodes sound without renting a Rhodes or hiring a cellist for a section. It's the same thing everyone in Keyboard magazine and the real world talks about. You think people buy GigaSampler to sample their own sounds? No! They buy it for = the library. Thanks, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Kilpatrick To: Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:33 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! > In message <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. > writes > > > > > People, everyone buys their instruments for their own purposes. I > > did not buy a sampler to waste my time creating/sampling sounds. = I > > work in Pop, R&B, Rock and Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and > > compose my tunes. I have what I want to do in my head and I write > > it out on manuscript or I play it. Sampling my own sounds would > > hamper that process and would waste time in my opinion. > > Perhaps, but if you consider the possibilities that a sampler would > offer in at least three of those genres. /Think out of the box, man/ = ;). > Seriously, and no disrespect to your choice of music, most Hip-Hop and > R&B is horribly derivative. The /good/ stuff breaks the mould, be it > with clever lyrics or a new sound. > > >If you > > disagree wit that, good for you, but that's not what I got my > > sampler for. I got my sampler to have access to an unlimited = number > > of soudns rather than the static one (which I could get tired of) > > in my Roland XP60. This is why I keep asking for resources to > > sounds. People these days buy samplers for their sound libraries > > anyway. > > An XP-60 is hardly a high-end workstation, though. It's almost a > consumer level Rompler, a damn good one at that, but nevertheless it's > fairly low-end. FWIW you don't get much greater choice of sound or = even > synthesis resources in an XV - but your system will be so much more > robust, your sample disks won't get corrupted because it's ROM. If > you're really that irritated with the choice, kill two birds with one > stone, get a Triton with the extra RAM and there you have your = mid-range > ROMpler and a sampler with Akai file compatibility (since you don't = want > to sample, that's really all you need) in one handy box. In fact, get = a > KARMA, and it'll even compose for you ;) > > The off-the-shelf library for the S7XX series /is/ small because of = the > Akai's domination of the market. However, many utilities exist to > convert existing sample libraries (even, heaven forbid, finding one = you > like, playing it back into the S760 and sampling it there - though = you'd > have to set your own loop points). > > I haven't sampled much with my S-50 - it's not the easiest thing to = work > with - but I'm looking forward to getting into it when I have more = time > for music. > > Richard > -- > Richard Kilpatrick |\ = _,,,---,,_ > Does entropy apply to love? -- RK /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, > E-Mail: richardlovecraft.demon.co.uk |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ `'::. > Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > ------=_NextPart_000_00F2_01C17E37.C7C8A100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,


Everyone goes = straight to=20 break/disrespect on Hip-Hop - Even though it was
only ONE of the = genres that=20 I listed.

First of all, Hip-Hop is a genre. There is room for = originality=20 and not
Producers sample. I have a B.A. from the Brooklyn = Conservatory and=20 have
studied Jazz/Classical all my life (with teachers from Julliard=20 even).
However, I LIKE Hip-Hop/R&B, I love Jazz, I love 80s Synth = Pop.=20 This is the
music I (not you) want to compose. I don't use loops, = breaks,=20 etc. I bought
my sampler so I could get a (for example) cello or = Rhodes sound=20 without
renting a Rhodes or hiring a cellist for a section. It's the = same=20 thing
everyone in Keyboard magazine and the real world talks about. = You=20 think
people buy GigaSampler to sample their own sounds? No! They buy = it for=20 the
library.

Thanks,
Harold




----- = Original=20 Message -----
From: Richard Kilpatrick <richard@lovecraft.demon.co.= uk>
To:=20 <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Se= nt:=20 Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: sgroup Possible = Goodbye for=20 S760!


> In message = <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1>,=20 Harold Everton, Jr.
> <evertonrecords@worldnet.a= tt.net>=20 writes
>
> </HTML>
>
> = >   =20 People, everyone buys their instruments for their own purposes. = I
>=20 >    did not buy a sampler to waste my time = creating/sampling=20 sounds. I
> >    work in Pop, R&B, Rock and = Hip-Hop=20 productions. I arrange and
> >    compose my = tunes. I=20 have what I want to do in my head and I write
> = >    it=20 out on manuscript or I play it. Sampling my own sounds would
>=20 >    hamper that process and would waste time in my=20 opinion.
>
> Perhaps, but if you consider the possibilities = that a=20 sampler would
> offer in at least three of those genres. /Think = out of the=20 box, man/ ;).
> Seriously, and no disrespect to your choice of = music, most=20 Hip-Hop and
> R&B is horribly derivative. The /good/ stuff = breaks the=20 mould, be it
> with clever lyrics or a new sound.
>
> = >If=20 you
> >    disagree wit that, good for you, but = that's=20 not what I got my
> >    sampler for. I got my = sampler=20 to have access to an unlimited number
> >    of = soudns=20 rather than the static one (which I could get tired of)
>=20 >    in my Roland XP60. This is why I keep asking for=20 resources to
> >    sounds. People these days = buy=20 samplers for their sound libraries
> >   =20 anyway.
>
> An XP-60 is hardly a high-end workstation, = though. It's=20 almost a
> consumer level Rompler, a damn good one at that, but=20 nevertheless it's
> fairly low-end. FWIW you don't get much = greater choice=20 of sound or even
> synthesis resources in an XV - but your system = will be=20 so much more
> robust, your sample disks won't get corrupted = because it's=20 ROM. If
> you're really that irritated with the choice, kill two = birds=20 with one
> stone, get a Triton with the extra RAM and there you = have your=20 mid-range
> ROMpler and a sampler with Akai file compatibility = (since you=20 don't want
> to sample, that's really all you need) in one handy = box. In=20 fact, get a
> KARMA, and it'll even compose for you = ;)
>
> The=20 off-the-shelf library for the S7XX series /is/ small because of = the
>=20 Akai's domination of the market. However, many utilities exist = to
>=20 convert existing sample libraries (even, heaven forbid, finding one = you
>=20 like, playing it back into the S760 and sampling it there - though = you'd
>=20 have to set your own loop points).
>
> I haven't sampled = much with=20 my S-50 - it's not the easiest thing to work
> with - but I'm = looking=20 forward to getting into it when I have more time
> for=20 music.
>
> Richard
>=20 --
>          &nb= sp; =20 Richard=20 Kilpatrick          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;=20 |\     =20 _,,,---,,_
>      Does entropy apply to = love? --=20 RK            = ;   =20 /,`.-'`'    -.
;-;;,
>  E-Mail:=20 richard<at>lovecraft.demon.co.uk      = ;     =20 |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\
 `'::.
> Homepage:  http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.= uk/      =20 '----''(_/--'
`-'\_)Morticia
>
> -
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> For subscription information, = send mail=20 to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca
= > and=20 see http://www.generalconcept= s.com/sgroup/=20 for more information.
>
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From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:39:14 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:39:04 -0500 Received: from intmailvw05.lear.com (39.lear.com [63.68.196.39]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:39:01 -0500 Received: from 10.0.4.95 by intmailvw05.lear.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 06 Dec 2001 09:38:59 -0500 Received: by inet-imc-01.headquarters.lear.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:38:58 -0500 Message-ID: <70533B83BB16D111852D00805F59F04DA71288@oakville.oakville.lear.com> From: "Gallagher, Jon" To: Sgroup Subject: RE: sgroup Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:24:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:38:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Guys.. Ok I think no one is trashing Hip Hop or any other genre of music here nor are we calling into question anyone's musical cred.. That said, I think simply there are 2 types of users one being those who tinker and create sounds because of the abilty of a sampler to do so and the other type that use the sampler's abilities to reproduce sounds that would be impractical to create using the tinker method..either method is valid, just a matter of personal preference.. Some people buy a jigsaw puzzle for the picture..some for the effort of putting it together..that's MY half-assed analogy anyway Cheers > -----Original Message----- > From: Harold Everton, Jr. [SMTP:evertonrecords@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:33 AM > To: Richard Kilpatrick; sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: sgroup Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:24:18 -0500 > > Hello, > > > Everyone goes straight to break/disrespect on Hip-Hop - Even though it was > only ONE of the genres that I listed. > > First of all, Hip-Hop is a genre. There is room for originality and not > Producers sample. I have a B.A. from the Brooklyn Conservatory and have > studied Jazz/Classical all my life (with teachers from Julliard even). > However, I LIKE Hip-Hop/R&B, I love Jazz, I love 80s Synth Pop. This is > the > music I (not you) want to compose. I don't use loops, breaks, etc. I > bought > my sampler so I could get a (for example) cello or Rhodes sound without > renting a Rhodes or hiring a cellist for a section. It's the same thing > everyone in Keyboard magazine and the real world talks about. You think > people buy GigaSampler to sample their own sounds? No! They buy it for the > library. > > Thanks, > Harold > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Kilpatrick < richard@lovecraft.demon.co.uk > > > To: < sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:33 AM > Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! > > > > In message <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. > > < evertonrecords@worldnet.att.net > > writes > > > > > > > > > People, everyone buys their instruments for their own purposes. I > > > did not buy a sampler to waste my time creating/sampling sounds. I > > > work in Pop, R&B, Rock and Hip-Hop productions. I arrange and > > > compose my tunes. I have what I want to do in my head and I write > > > it out on manuscript or I play it. Sampling my own sounds would > > > hamper that process and would waste time in my opinion. > > > > Perhaps, but if you consider the possibilities that a sampler would > > offer in at least three of those genres. /Think out of the box, man/ ;). > > Seriously, and no disrespect to your choice of music, most Hip-Hop and > > R&B is horribly derivative. The /good/ stuff breaks the mould, be it > > with clever lyrics or a new sound. > > > > >If you > > > disagree wit that, good for you, but that's not what I got my > > > sampler for. I got my sampler to have access to an unlimited number > > > of soudns rather than the static one (which I could get tired of) > > > in my Roland XP60. This is why I keep asking for resources to > > > sounds. People these days buy samplers for their sound libraries > > > anyway. > > > > An XP-60 is hardly a high-end workstation, though. It's almost a > > consumer level Rompler, a damn good one at that, but nevertheless it's > > fairly low-end. FWIW you don't get much greater choice of sound or even > > synthesis resources in an XV - but your system will be so much more > > robust, your sample disks won't get corrupted because it's ROM. If > > you're really that irritated with the choice, kill two birds with one > > stone, get a Triton with the extra RAM and there you have your mid-range > > ROMpler and a sampler with Akai file compatibility (since you don't want > > to sample, that's really all you need) in one handy box. In fact, get a > > KARMA, and it'll even compose for you ;) > > > > The off-the-shelf library for the S7XX series /is/ small because of the > > Akai's domination of the market. However, many utilities exist to > > convert existing sample libraries (even, heaven forbid, finding one you > > like, playing it back into the S760 and sampling it there - though you'd > > have to set your own loop points). > > > > I haven't sampled much with my S-50 - it's not the easiest thing to work > > with - but I'm looking forward to getting into it when I have more time > > for music. > > > > Richard > > -- > > Richard Kilpatrick |\ _,,,---,,_ > > Does entropy apply to love? -- RK /,`.-'`' -. > ;-;;, > > E-Mail: richardlovecraft.demon.co.uk |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ > `'::. > > Homepage: '----''(_/--' > `-'\_)Morticia > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > > and see for more information. > > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:44:44 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:44:37 -0500 Received: from web10404.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.130.96]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:44:27 -0500 Message-ID: <20011206144421.56732.qmail@web10404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.126.132.27] by web10404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 06:44:21 PST Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:44:21 -0500 From: thememuzik productions Subject: Re: sgroup dirt cheap SCSI drives, etc. at OWC To: Josh Carter , Roland Sgroup In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-624129124-1007649861=:56098" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --0-624129124-1007649861=:56098 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a Roland KW30 (Scsi included). If I get the Cd-rom, what will that enable me to do? Josh Carter wrote: Hi all, I saw some questions about mass storage flying around. Just found this clearance page at OWC: http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=510&Title=&Template=1 Some total bargains there on hard drives, e.g. 540MB drive for $10 or a "10 pack" (!) of 200MB drives for $20. Yow. Some good prices on old CD-ROM drives that would work with the Rolands, too ($10-$25). Note that you'll still need a powered enclosure with any of these. They have some of those, too, for $10. Bargain hounds rejoice! I went ahead and bought a 540MB drive as a backup in case my ancient 700MB drive fails -- $15 after shipping. FWIW, I've bought stuff from OWC before and they're a good dealer. -Josh - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. CHECK OUT MY MUSIC!!! www.rapstation.com/thememuzik --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! 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I have a Roland KW30 (Scsi included).  If I get the Cd-rom, what will that enable me to do? 

  Josh Carter <jesusdrummer@mac.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I saw some questions about mass storage flying around. Just found this
clearance page at OWC:

http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=510&Title=&Template=1

Some total bargains there on hard drives, e.g. 540MB drive for $10 or a
"10 pack" (!) of 200MB drives for $20. Yow. Some good prices on old
CD-ROM drives that would work with the Rolands, too ($10-$25). Note that
you'll still need a powered enclosure with any of these. They have some
of those, too, for $10. Bargain hounds rejoice!

I went ahead and bought a 540MB drive as a backup in case my ancient
700MB drive fails -- $15 after shipping. FWIW, I've bought stuff from
OWC before and they're a good dealer.

-Josh


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From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:51:24 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:51:15 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.89]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:51:08 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16Bzrb-00047Z-0V; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:51:04 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:44:44 -0500 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick Subject: sgroup Re: References: <00f501c17e61$b4491360$6d55580c@epu1> In-Reply-To: <00f501c17e61$b4491360$6d55580c@epu1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message <00f501c17e61$b4491360$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. writes > love 80s Synth Pop. This is the > music I (not you) want to compose. Hey, I compose 80s synth pop. If I want a Rhodes or a Cello, (I do play cello a little, but not well), then my 80s era synths provide excellent examples of both ;) I wasn't dissing Hip-Hop. I was commenting that /most/ is derivative. One way to avoid that is to try different things. I've heard a lot of tracks with Cellos and Rhodes, for example ;) Richard -- Richard Kilpatrick |\ _,,,---,,_ Does entropy apply to love? -- RK /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, E-Mail: richardlovecraft.demon.co.uk |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:57:36 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193718-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:57:26 -0500 Received: from server319.echo-du-turf.com ([64.91.232.204]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193717-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:57:19 -0500 Received: from nobody by server319.echo-du-turf.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16BzxU-0004LJ-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:57:08 +0100 To: Subject: sgroup Greytsounds S-550 sample disks From: Reply-To: Subject: sgroup Greytsounds S-550 sample disks X-Originating-Ip: [66.128.101.131] X-Mailer: Mailoo v0.9.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:57:08 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server319.echo-du-turf.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hugin.uunet.ca X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [99 99] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - server319.echo-du-turf.com Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Okay, I recently purchased a handful of disks of S-550 sounds from Greytsounds after somebody posted that link to their website, and received the disks yesterday. Frankly, I was a bit disappointed. I got two Mellotron disks (one of which, the one with the strings on it, simply didn't work - I'll have to let you know later what they do about replacing it), Chamberlin, harpsichord, Yamaha CS-80 electric grand and electric piano 1 & 2. Simply put, I've heard better. As far as the harpsichord and electric pianos go, there are far superior samples in Roland's own disk library (available for free in the s-group archive). As for the Mellotrons sounds - well, I couldn't hear the string samples due to the screwed up disk, but the flutes sounded very weak and the choirs sound very sick and out of tune. I bought these disks hoping that "the pros" were capable of making better samples than me. As it turns out, the Mellotron samples that I made (also available in the s-group archive) kick the Greytsounds samples' asses (maybe this is another vote in favor of self-sampling?)... The one disk I actually rather liked was the Chamberlin disk. It only supplies a string sound, but it's nice and sounds good and is just different enough from a Mellotron to be worth the bother. I'll let y'all know what goes on with the defective disk, and what its sounds are like. BaM ________________________________________________________________________ Mailoo: the universal webmail, for any ISP: FREE! www.mailoo.ht.st Mailoo : le webmail universel pour tout FAI : GRATUIT ! www.mailoo.fr.st - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 09:58:15 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193721-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:58:08 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.88]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193718-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:58:01 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16BzyG-000I0r-0U; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:57:56 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:57:35 -0500 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> <00dc01c17e61$7dd7b2a0$6d55580c@epu1> In-Reply-To: <00dc01c17e61$7dd7b2a0$6d55580c@epu1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message <00dc01c17e61$7dd7b2a0$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. writes Did you spend as much time learning how to use email as you did on the S760? Could explain why you find it inadequate... ;) Seriously, though - the examples you've cited are neither hard to find on S-series sample disks /or/ in a ROMpler like the XP-60. Doesn't the XP support the industry-staple JV cards? If Vintage Keys doesn't have a Rhodes on it somewhere, I'll call Roland myself and point out their marketing error. Heck, I'm going to take this time to introduce myself ;) I'm Richard, I live in Scotland and work in advertising sales (put away that gun. I don't enjoy my work), and music is a hobby, a relaxation. I love playing keyboards of all kinds, and have a studio consisting of: Rolands D-50, S-50, TR-505, JD-800, SH-101 with MIDI box, EG-101 (pile o' crap), JV-50. Korg M1, Casio CZ-1000 and 101. Pair of Yamaha CX5MII/128 music computers, though one is about to be hybridized with an MSX2 Yamaha that was never sold in the UK or US and was never produced as a 'CX' music computer - but has the necessary slots to make it into one. Support from: Mackie 1202VLZ, Samson amp, Zoom/Inbanez effects, 2 Stylophones, MIDI patchbay, Compaq luggable 386 with SCC-1A card for managing patches on old synths and writing .out files. Eventual recording on: iMac SE, running ProTools free until I get a decent MIDI thing (looking at MIDEX=8). Right now I do Jarre-like electronic ambient work and 80s synth-pop stuff, though I'm trying to work into gothic-industrial music. I need a better drum machine, though, and more knowledge of drum patterns. Pleased to meet'cha all :) Richard -- Richard Kilpatrick |\ _,,,---,,_ Does entropy apply to love? -- RK /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, E-Mail: richardlovecraft.demon.co.uk |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 10:09:52 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193720-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:09:44 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193719-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:09:38 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.85.109]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011206150930.GLPQ941.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:09:30 +0000 Message-ID: <011f01c17e66$e80218a0$6d55580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Richard Kilpatrick" , References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1><00dc01c17e61$7dd7b2a0$6d55580c@epu1> Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:01:37 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011C_01C17E3C.FE5B0500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C17E3C.FE5B0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, The minute someone feels threatened, they slip away from the topic to = thrown in a smack. I don't see where learning to use email comes into = this. I realized that I addressed the email to you, when I in fact = wanted the whole group to see it. Yes, Roland has the stupid Vintage and Keyboards of the 60s & 70 card. = For YOUR information, I have the Bass & Drums, Orchestral, Experience = and Hip-Hop SRJV cards in my XP60. If you know anything about the XP60, = you'd know that my slots are filled up. Also, did it occur to you that I = might NOT want that SRJV08 card for Rhodes? Could it be that I heard = other sample CDs that had better sounds on it? This is why I bought this = sampler, to expand my sound palette, without having to spen near $200 on = an expansion board, whilst stil having another Roland machine Seriously, I don't see why it is so absurd to buy a sampler to take = advantage of the libraries. I also don't see why one would get slandered = on a board that's supposed to be of help to users of the same machine. = I've worked with every piece of equipment imaginable while = working/interning in a lot of the studios here in New York City. I = prefer Roland equipment. I've seen many studios where owners would have = 28 S760s loaded with sounds from Sample CDs. Perhaps I should stop = coming to the S760 group and talk to those studio owners instead.=20 Thanks for the support, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Kilpatrick To: Harold Everton, Jr. Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! > In message <00dc01c17e61$7dd7b2a0$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. > writes >=20 > >=20 > Did you spend as much time learning how to use email as you did on the > S760? Could explain why you find it inadequate... ;) >=20 > Seriously, though - the examples you've cited are neither hard to find > on S-series sample disks /or/ in a ROMpler like the XP-60. Doesn't the > XP support the industry-staple JV cards? If Vintage Keys doesn't have = a > Rhodes on it somewhere, I'll call Roland myself and point out their > marketing error. >=20 > Heck, I'm going to take this time to introduce myself ;) >=20 > I'm Richard, I live in Scotland and work in advertising sales (put = away > that gun. I don't enjoy my work), and music is a hobby, a relaxation. = I > love playing keyboards of all kinds, and have a studio consisting of: >=20 > Rolands D-50, S-50, TR-505, JD-800, SH-101 with MIDI box, EG-101 (pile > o' crap), JV-50. > Korg M1, Casio CZ-1000 and 101. > Pair of Yamaha CX5MII/128 music computers, though one is about to be > hybridized with an MSX2 Yamaha that was never sold in the UK or US and > was never produced as a 'CX' music computer - but has the necessary > slots to make it into one. >=20 > Support from: Mackie 1202VLZ, Samson amp, Zoom/Inbanez effects, 2 > Stylophones, MIDI patchbay, Compaq luggable 386 with SCC-1A card for > managing patches on old synths and writing .out files. >=20 > Eventual recording on: iMac SE, running ProTools free until I get a > decent MIDI thing (looking at MIDEX=3D8). >=20 > Right now I do Jarre-like electronic ambient work and 80s synth-pop > stuff, though I'm trying to work into gothic-industrial music. I need = a > better drum machine, though, and more knowledge of drum patterns. >=20 > Pleased to meet'cha all :) >=20 > Richard > --=20 > Richard Kilpatrick |\ = _,,,---,,_ > Does entropy apply to love? -- RK /,`.-'`' -. = ;-;;, > E-Mail: richardlovecraft.demon.co.uk |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ = ( `'::. > Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' = `-'\_)Morticia >=20 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >=20 >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C17E3C.FE5B0500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Okay,
 
The minute someone feels threatened, = they slip away=20 from the topic to thrown in a smack. I don't see where learning to use = email=20 comes into this. I realized that I addressed the email to you, when I in = fact=20 wanted the whole group to see it.
 
Yes, Roland has the stupid Vintage and = Keyboards of=20 the 60s & 70 card. For YOUR information, I have the Bass & = Drums,=20 Orchestral, Experience and Hip-Hop SRJV cards in my XP60. If you know = anything=20 about the XP60, you'd know that my slots are filled up. Also, did it = occur to=20 you that I might NOT want that SRJV08 card for Rhodes? Could it be that = I heard=20 other sample CDs that had better sounds on it? This is why I bought this = sampler, to expand my sound palette, without having to spen near $200 on = an=20 expansion board, whilst stil having another Roland machine
 
Seriously, I don't see why it is so = absurd to buy a=20 sampler to take advantage of the libraries. I also don't see why one = would get=20 slandered on a board that's supposed to be of help to users of the same = machine.=20 I've worked with every piece of equipment imaginable while = working/interning in=20 a lot of the studios here in New York City. I prefer Roland equipment. = I've seen=20 many studios where owners would have 28 S760s loaded with sounds from = Sample=20 CDs. Perhaps I should stop coming to the S760 group and talk to those = studio=20 owners instead.
 
Thanks for the support,
Harold
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Kilpatrick <richard@lovecraft.demon.co.= uk>
To: Harold Everton, Jr. <evertonrecords@worldnet.a= tt.net>
Cc: <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:57=20 AM
Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye = for=20 S760!

> In message=20 <00dc01c17e61$7dd7b2a0$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr.
> = <evertonrecords@worldnet.a= tt.net>=20 writes
>
> <snip no additional content>
> =
> Did=20 you spend as much time learning how to use email as you did on = the
> S760?=20 Could explain why you find it inadequate... ;)
>
> = Seriously,=20 though - the examples you've cited are neither hard to find
> on = S-series=20 sample disks /or/ in a ROMpler like the XP-60. Doesn't the
> XP = support=20 the industry-staple JV cards? If Vintage Keys doesn't have a
> = Rhodes on=20 it somewhere, I'll call Roland myself and point out their
> = marketing=20 error.
>
> Heck, I'm going to take this time to introduce = myself=20 ;)
>
> I'm Richard, I live in Scotland and work in = advertising=20 sales (put away
> that gun. I don't enjoy my work), and music is a = hobby,=20 a relaxation. I
> love playing keyboards of all kinds, and have a = studio=20 consisting of:
>
> Rolands D-50, S-50, TR-505, JD-800, = SH-101 with=20 MIDI box, EG-101 (pile
> o' crap), JV-50.
> Korg M1, Casio = CZ-1000=20 and 101.
> Pair of Yamaha CX5MII/128 music computers, though one = is about=20 to be
> hybridized with an MSX2 Yamaha that was never sold in the = UK or US=20 and
> was never produced as a 'CX' music computer - but has the=20 necessary
> slots to make it into one.
>
> Support = from:=20 Mackie 1202VLZ, Samson amp, Zoom/Inbanez effects, 2
> Stylophones, = MIDI=20 patchbay, Compaq luggable 386 with SCC-1A card for
> managing = patches on=20 old synths and writing .out files.
>
> Eventual recording = on: iMac=20 SE, running ProTools free until I get a
> decent MIDI thing = (looking at=20 MIDEX=3D8).
>
> Right now I do Jarre-like electronic = ambient work and=20 80s synth-pop
> stuff, though I'm trying to work into = gothic-industrial=20 music. I need a
> better drum machine, though, and more knowledge = of drum=20 patterns.
>
> Pleased to meet'cha all :)
>
>=20 Richard
> --
>=20             = Richard=20 Kilpatrick          &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;=20 |\      _,,,---,,_
> =     =20 Does entropy apply to love? --=20 RK            = ;   =20 /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,
>  E-Mail:=20 richard<at>lovecraft.demon.co.uk      = ;     =20 |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'::.
> Homepage:  http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.= uk/      =20 '----''(_/--'  `-'\_)Morticia
>
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> ------=_NextPart_000_011C_01C17E3C.FE5B0500-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 10:30:28 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193721-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:30:22 -0500 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193720-44>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:30:07 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16C0TC-000PK7-0C for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:29:54 +0000 Message-ID: <41$Pm0IY74D8Ew1o@lovecraft.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:29:28 -0500 Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick To: Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> <00dc01c17e61$7dd7b2a0$6d55580c@epu1> <011f01c17e66$e80218a0$6d55580c@epu1> In-Reply-To: <011f01c17e66$e80218a0$6d55580c@epu1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message <011f01c17e66$e80218a0$6d55580c@epu1>, Harold Everton, Jr. writes > The minute someone feels threatened, they slip away from the topic > to thrown in a smack. I don't see where learning to use email comes > into this. I realized that I addressed the email to you, when I in > fact wanted the whole group to see it. I'm not threatened, I was actually referring to the blank email you sent ;) I have to remember to snip the additional address from the header, but I usually remember to write what I was going to say before clicking end. Usually ;). > Yes, Roland has the stupid Vintage and Keyboards of the 60s & 70 > card. For YOUR information, I have the Bass & Drums, Orchestral, > Experience and Hip-Hop SRJV cards in my XP60. If you know anything > about the XP60, you'd know that my slots are filled up. So swap a card out? Maybe I joined this too late, but you didn't say that you'd used all the slots before. >Also, did > it occur to you that I might NOT want that SRJV08 card for Rhodes? > Could it be that I heard other sample CDs that had better sounds on > it? This is why I bought this sampler, to expand my sound palette, > without having to spen near $200 on an expansion board, whilst stil > having another Roland machine But you can convert the files to the S760! This is what I don't understand. Does the sampler that you think you would prefer have a better /sample/ available, or a better processor? If it's the processor, end of argument, get the one you like. If it's the sample, then convert it. AFAICR, there are utilities on the Sgroup archive for doing this! > Seriously, I don't see why it is so absurd to buy a sampler to take > advantage of the libraries. I also don't see why one would get > slandered on a board that's supposed to be of help to users of the > same machine. I've worked with every piece of equipment imaginable > while working/interning in a lot of the studios here in New York > City. I prefer Roland equipment. I've seen many studios where > owners would have 28 S760s loaded with sounds from Sample CDs. > Perhaps I should stop coming to the S760 group and talk to those > studio owners instead. Yeah, but people have offered help, right? So what's the problem? You say everyone else is dissing your genre of music when in fact, my comment was purely that it's a genre that is heavily populated by similar sounds - something which is endemic to the use of standard libraries or sound modules. Surely the fact that you own a Hip-Hop card for your XP, and want to produce Hip-Hop music, should give that one away! Hey, it's not a /problem/ - I do 80s music and I have a wide selection of, guess what, 80s synths. But if you see studios with 28 760s and a stack of CDs, why /not/ ask where they obtained them? Would it be likely that they made their own? Richard -- Richard Kilpatrick |\ _,,,---,,_ Does entropy apply to love? -- RK /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, E-Mail: richardlovecraft.demon.co.uk |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 10:53:26 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193722-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:53:18 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193721-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:53:08 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0fp.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.249] helo=mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16C0pX-0004IY-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:52:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3C0F93D9.3550FB6E@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:50:49 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> <00dc01c17e61$7dd7b2a0$6d55580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Nice collection of synths! The D-50 is still my all-time fave synth and, I think, the most original and influential synthesizer ever made. You can still hear sounds from the factory sound banks all over movies, TV, commercials, etc. The M-1 was also very nice - the music store I frequented let me sample one into their S-550 and keep the disks. I still love those sounds like their drums, concert chimes, Bottle Breath, etc. Jesse Richard Kilpatrick wrote: > > Rolands D-50, S-50, TR-505, JD-800, SH-101 with MIDI box, EG-101 (pile > o' crap), JV-50. > Korg M1, Casio CZ-1000 and 101. > Pair of Yamaha CX5MII/128 music computers, though one is about to be > hybridized with an MSX2 Yamaha that was never sold in the UK or US and > was never produced as a 'CX' music computer - but has the necessary > slots to make it into one. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 10:56:38 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:56:29 -0500 Received: from smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk (skua.poptel.org.uk [213.55.14.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193722-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:56:19 -0500 Received: from thomas (host213-120-40-196.webport.bt.net [213.120.40.196]) by smtpgate2.poptel.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.0/DA98072301) with ESMTP id PAA11272; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:55:46 GMT From: "Trevor Learoyd" Organization: Red Shift To: Richard Kilpatrick , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:56:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: sgroup Helloooo? S50 user in UK ;) Reply-to: trevor.learoyd@geo2.poptel.org.uk Message-ID: <3C0F9510.21929.45E833@localhost> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard Kilpatrick wrote: > I'm also looking for someone in the UK who refurbishes these. Here we are :-) Trevor -- ***** NSSC - The Northern Synthesizer Service Centre ***** ** Red Shift, 153 Sunbridge Road, Bradford, BD1 2NU, England ** ***** email: trevor.learoyd@geo2.poptel.org.uk ***** *** Tel: +44 (0)1 274 777 300 Fax : +44 (0)1 274 777 300 *** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 11:21:05 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:20:57 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193723-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:20:51 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E68BE02 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA01832 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:20:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C0F9AD4.000001.20224@statler> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:20:36 -0500 From: blincoln To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Richard Kilpatrick wrote: > Casio CZ-1000 and 101. The CZ series are some of the most underrated synths of all time. I've got a CZ-1 and CZ-5000 and I'd never give them up. > Right now I do Jarre-like electronic ambient work and 80s synth-pop > stuff, though I'm trying to work into gothic-industrial music. I > need a > better drum machine, though, and more knowledge of drum patterns. Cool, I tend towards spooky electronic stuff myself. The conversion from 80s synth-pop to gothic/industrial is pretty straightforward, IMO, just put some distortion on the drums and maybe vocals and write everything in a minor key =). I don't use a drum machine per se, but most of my rhythm sounds come from a Yamaha RM50 (good selection of Yamaha drum machine sounds, which I totally prefer to 808/909, etc. Too bad it doesn't handle SYSEX dumps properly or I'd use its synth engine more), a Kawai XD-5 (The best drum synth module I've ever used) and an E-mu Procussion (Has some incredible found-sound type waveforms in it). - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 15:26:51 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:26:45 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (tserver.conference.usenix.org [209.179.127.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:26:38 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fB6KQQ264309 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:26:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web12303.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.101]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-43>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:08:50 -0500 Message-ID: <20011206140846.73264.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.128.101.131] by web12303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 06:08:46 PST Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:08:46 -0500 From: Dharma Bummer Subject: sgroup Greytsounds S-550 sample disks To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Okay, I recently purchased a handful of disks of S-550 sounds from Greytsounds after somebody posted that link to their website, and received the disks yesterday. Frankly, I was a bit disappointed. I got two Mellotron disks (one of which, the one with the strings on it, simply didn't work - I'll have to let you know later what they do about replacing it), Chamberlin, harpsichord, Yamaha CS-80 electric grand and electric piano 1 & 2. Simply put, I've heard better. As far as the harpsichord and electric pianos go, there are far superior samples in Roland's own disk library (available for free in the s-group archive). As for the Mellotrons sounds - well, I couldn't hear the string samples due to the screwed up disk, but the flutes sounded very weak and the choirs sound very sick and out of tune. I bought these disks hoping that "the pros" were capable of making better samples than me. As it turns out, the Mellotron samples that I made (also available in the s-group archive) kick the Greytsounds samples' asses (maybe this is another vote in favor of self-sampling?)... The one disk I actually rather liked was the Chamberlin disk. It only supplies a string sound, but it's nice and sounds good and is just different enough from a Mellotron to be worth the bother. I'll let y'all know what goes on with the defective disk, and what its sounds are like. BaM __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 15:29:18 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:29:08 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (tserver.conference.usenix.org [209.179.127.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:29:02 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fB6KSuo65933 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:28:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail.san.yahoo.com ([209.132.1.30]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10711>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:06:38 -0500 Received: from audiopc (64.114.175.97) by mail.san.yahoo.com (5.5.054.2) id 3C0F51020000F1A9 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:06:37 -0800 Message-ID: <016f01c17e89$237d0620$61af7240@whooshnet.com> Reply-To: "Steve Schow" From: "Steve Schow" To: References: <002501c17d31$27145d00$2b52580c@epu1> <003201c17e57$306403c0$6d55580c@epu1> Subject: sgroup Chickensys now supports S-50 !!! Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:40:04 -0500 Organization: Backstage Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760!Guys... check it out... Chickensys added support for translating S-50 CD's and floppies into Giga, Triton, EXS and Akai format!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chicken Systems" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:19 PM Subject: Translator Update 12/6 > *************************** > * TRANSLATOR UPDATE 12/6 * > *************************** > (sent to Translator users and people who signed up for our mailing list) > Chicken Systems, Inc. - www.chickensys.com/translator > 800-877-6377, 320-235-9798, fax 360-838-7689 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Version 2.5 of Translator has been released. Here are some highlights. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -Full Roland XV-5080 support; translates Akai, Emu, Ensoniq, Kurzweil, > SampleCell to the native XV format > -Full Korg Triton support; translates Akai, Emu, Ensoniq, Kurzweil, Roland > to the native Triton format > -Akai S-5000 source support; translates S-5000 to.. well, anything. > -Roland S-50 source support; translates S-50 CD's and floppies to Giga, > EXS, Triton, Akai > -Support for Giga 2.2 parameters > -Higher resolution for EXS-24 and HALion translations > -Better SampleCell translations, full support for SampleCell PC added > -Tightened code, faster, more efficient operation > -Many translations re-reviewed for better, more complete translations > -Lot's, and lot's, and lot's of little things... > > > MAC VERSION > ----------- > We currently finishing our coding with the Mac version of Translator. When? > You'll see a release date announced soon. (I'm sure many of you are > frustrated with the word "soon," but it's all we can say currently.) > > > GOT ANY IDEAS? > -------------- > Do you have a burning need? Is your software enough for what you want to > do? Got a good idea that no software does yet? Give us a call - > 800-877-6377, or 320-235-9798, or email us at translatorideas@chickensys.com > > > NAMM > ---- > Come see us at NAMM this year; it's going to be better than ever! Booth > #6921. The booth is twice as big as last year, and we've got some great > plans. Come by and say hi. > > > (for review purposes) WHAT'S TRANSLATOR? > ---------------------------------------- > Translator is a computer program that can take most professional audio > sampler formats and translate between them. You computer can thus read AND > write to Akai, Roland, Emu, Ensoniq, Kurzweil, SampleCell, and more > formats, so your sampler can read and play them just as they sounded in the > source. You can translate one sound at a time, or many or all at once. Many > options are made available to fit your needs. > > A popular use of Translator is to provide the new wave of software samplers > with sounds. Another use is to provide new sounds for the older hardware > samplers, and provide handy computer integration. Another use is back up of > sounds, and also you can assemble CD's of sounds and burn them to CD-R. > > You can audition sounds directly from CD, disk, or file. You can even > transfer sounds directly to the sampler via SMDI, through SCSI. > > Want to know more? Our web site is chock full of information. In fact, the > whole manual is online, browesable in hypertext format. You can learn a lot > about samplers and their history as well. > > > HOW TO ORDER TRANSLATOR > ----------------------- > We sell Translator direct (www.chickensys.com/translator/order.html), but > we also have a series of dealers throughout the world, one probably nearby you. > > Musicians Friend www.musiciansfriend.com > Time + Space (serving the United Kingdom) www.timespace.com > best service (serving Germany and West/Central Europe) www.bestservice.de > Kid Nepro (serving lot's of people) www.kidnepro.com > Northern Sounds (serving lot's of Giga people) www.northernsounds.com > > Translator Full Version intends to translate everything to everything, list > is $149.95 (US dollars). We also sell special editions which limits the > destination to a single sampler format (such as Giga, or HALion, or EXS, or > Emu, Akai, etc.). These are sold for $79.95. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- > (To remove yourself from this list, please type UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject > line and reply back.) > > | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | > | Garth Hjelte and Jeff Godbloch | > | Customer Service Representatives | > | Chicken Systems, Inc. | > | 714 5th Street SE | > | Willmar, MN 56201 USA | > | | > | 800-8-PRO-EPS Toll Free Order Line (US Only) | > | 320-235-9798 Tech Support, Sampler Questions | > | International Line | > | 360-838-7689 Fax | > | Product Sales: sales@chickensys.com | > | Product Support: support@chickensys.com | > | Sampler Q+A: qa@chickensys.com | > | Company Web Page: www.chickensys.com | > | Translator Web Page: www.chickensys.com/translator | > | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 15:30:54 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193718-10711>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:30:53 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193717-10711>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:30:44 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.209]) by tweakhead.com ; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:26:18 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:24:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:26:19 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <100767038001@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >You think people buy GigaSampler to sample their own sounds? >No! They buy it for the library. Yes, partially because of the ability to play back long samples, and partially because Giga does not offer a synthesis engine per se to work with those sounds. Part of the selling point back in the day of the Roland S-series was the fact it was a fully capabile wave-playback synthesizer in addition to being a "sampler". Again, no disrespect, but you very well may be better served by swapping your S-760 for a used Akai S3000XL or S3200XL, or spending some money and moving to a newer machine. Do try loading an Akai library CD on your machine though...it does work (for me). cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 15:30:56 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:30:53 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193718-10711>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:30:47 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([12.248.22.209]) by europa.your-site.com ; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:19:38 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:19:39 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <100766997801@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Seriously, I don't see why it is so absurd to buy a >sampler to take advantage of the libraries. OK, Harold, so you want to use libraries. 'tis good. What is stopping you from buying an Akai-format CD-ROM? I have a few and they load and work fine on my Roland DJ-70mkII. wondering, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Dec 6 20:08:15 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-7553>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:08:08 -0500 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-10711>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:08:01 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0f7.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.231] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16C9Uc-0002uH-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 20:07:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3C1015D5.A866931A@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:05:25 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Greytsounds Sample CDs and Diskettes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I finally hooked up with Bob Grey at Greytsounds. He's sending the Philip Wolfe CD in Roland format; I should have it early next week: http://www.greytsounds.com/gs/cd/rockkeys.html?CXT=QS_CA I also spoke to him a bit about convert-loading Akai CDs, and to try it out, he's selling me a sample CD in Akai format for only $38.50. I ordered 'Greytsounds Volume 1;' at that price who can go wrong? http://www.greytsounds.com/gs/cd/gsvol1-s1000.html?CXT=QS_CA I believe he's do similar price discounts on all his stock of audio CDs. If anyone is interested, check out the website at www.greytsounds.com. I also asked him about selling S-50 and S-550 sample floppy disks at a discount. He said he'd do 50% off any and all sample floppies and he'd be willing to discuss better discounts at volume. I'll let everyone know how my two CDs sounds as soon as I get them. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 7 01:15:05 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:14:58 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29357>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:14:48 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.17a.56a4c5 (4068) for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:14:39 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <17a.56a4c5.2941b84f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:14:39 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 09:24:18 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I do not fall into any type. I sample when needed or use a library if I had some available. It's that simple. No use in limiting my productivity. But to each his own. Yall should squash this discussion and get back to happy sampling times. Dave H. >>That said, I think simply there are 2 types of users one being those who tinker and create sounds because of the abilty of a sampler to do so and the other type that use the sampler's abilities to reproduce sounds that would be impractical to create using the tinker method..either method is valid, just a matter of personal preference..<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 7 01:32:07 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-29357>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:32:00 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29357>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:31:50 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.186.8c63a (4068) for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:31:41 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <186.8c63a.2941bc4d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:31:41 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Aeon where can I get these Akai CDROM's for my s760? Thanks Dave H. >>What is stopping you from buying an Akai-format CD-ROM? I have a few and they load and work fine on my Roland DJ-70mkII.<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 7 02:28:07 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 02:27:59 -0500 Received: from tweakhead.com (europa.your-site.com [140.186.45.14]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 02:27:49 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([12.248.22.209]) by tweakhead.com ; Fri, 07 Dec 2001 02:24:15 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 02:24:16 -0500 x-sender: aeon/tweakhead.com@tweakhead.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <100770986001@europa.your-site.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Aeon where can I get these Akai CDROM's for my s760? not that I work for them, but this is a good start: http://www.soundsonline.com/ cheers, aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 7 06:18:25 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-29357>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 06:18:16 -0500 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 06:18:14 -0500 Received: from [217.87.81.186] (helo=[217.87.81.186]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (Exim 3.40 #37) id 16CJ10-0007OE-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 07 Dec 2001 12:18:03 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1624) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 06:11:29 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Quiet samples From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: roland Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3090571890_9185_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Diese Nachricht ist im MIME-Format. Da Ihr Mailreader dieses Format nicht unterstŸtzt, kšnnte diese Nachricht ganz oder teilweise unlesbar sein. --MS_Mac_OE_3090571890_9185_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Have you adjusted the Input or overall Level? It's in the System Menue somewhere, if I remember right, you can adjust +6, 0, -6, -12 dB Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen Von: DAJA300@aol.com Datum: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:13:47 -0500 An: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Betreff: sgroup Quiet samples I am trying to sample directly into the s760 from the Korg X5Dr [Korg stereo outs to s760 stereo in] but the signal is very low and because of it I get hiss. Is there a cleaner way to do this in the s760 settings maybe? All the levels are set correctly on the Korg and the wires are good. If I play harder it still won't help me reach a reasonable level. I am thinking there must be something in the s760 that can remedy this situation without me having to connect the Korg to a Noise Gate [I only have a dbx 266XL] or something first. If I use the dbx266XL I still get the hiss. I cannot go through the mixer since it's a little noisier. I am monitoring through my headphones. Thanks Dave --MS_Mac_OE_3090571890_9185_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup Quiet samples Have you adjusted the Input or overall Level? It's in the System Menue some= where, if I remember right, you can adjust +6, 0, -6, -12 dB

Nikolaus Sieveking
nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen
<niko@home-studios.com>

Von: DAJA300@aol.com
Datum: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:13:47 -0500
An: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Betreff: sgroup Quiet samples


I am trying to sample directly into the s760 fro= m the Korg X5Dr [Korg stereo outs to s760 stereo in] but the signal is very = low and because of it I get hiss. Is there a cleaner way to do this in the s= 760 settings maybe? All the levels are set correctly on the Korg and the wir= es are good.

If I play harder it still won't help me reach a reasonable level. I am thin= king there must be something in the s760 that can remedy this situation with= out me having to connect the Korg to a Noise Gate [I only have a dbx 266XL] = or something first.

If I use the dbx266XL I still get the hiss.  I cannot go through the m= ixer since it's a little noisier. I am monitoring through my headphones.

Thanks
Dave

--MS_Mac_OE_3090571890_9185_MIME_Part-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 7 07:34:24 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 07:34:16 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 07:34:06 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.84.2]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011207123400.SMYW5540.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:34:00 +0000 Message-ID: <003301c17f1a$576ca620$0254580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "aeon" , References: <100770986001@europa.your-site.com> Subject: sgroup What's up with this Virus! Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 07:26:03 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey People, Someone keeps sending this group a virus (Bad_Trans B). This virus has screwed my PC up at least twice over the past week or so. I'm just warning you all, CLOSE YOUR PREVIEW SCREEN and DON'T OPEN ATTATCHMENTS!!! My preview screen opened one of the attatchments and BOOM! Thanks, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: aeon To: ; Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 2:24 AM Subject: Re: sgroup Possible Goodbye for S760! > >Aeon where can I get these Akai CDROM's for my s760? > > not that I work for them, but this is a good start: > > http://www.soundsonline.com/ > > > cheers, > aeon > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 7 18:55:41 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:55:33 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.46]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:55:30 -0500 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.199]) by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20011207235525.DLZU5540.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 23:55:25 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c17f79$8a523be0$c752580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup I've decided. . . Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:47:25 -0500 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C17F4F.9CCE6340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C17F4F.9CCE6340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I've decided to keep my S760 and get the "First Call Vintage Keyboards" = and "Ross Garfield Drums 2" Akai sampler CDs for it. I used to have a = Roland SC880 which had a large quantity of great sounds. I sold it to = get the S760 as to have an unlimited programmable palette of sounds to = work with. These two sample CDs from East West seem to fit the bill. = It'd be nice to have the huge collection of 80s synths, but purchasing = them, repairing and maintaining them are not in my best interest. = Collecting playable multi-samples are and would fit the purpose of me = having a sampler - To have a large collection of multi-sample/patches in = my arsenal of already prepared instruments. My dream is to one day accompany this sampler with a Flat Screen SVGA = monitor (I'd use a sync box to convert the Composite output to the VGA = output), mouse AND RC-100 controller. That'd be one PHAT system, even = with the measly 32MB. I love Roland! Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C17F4F.9CCE6340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey All,
 
I've decided to keep my S760 and get = the "First=20 Call Vintage Keyboards" and "Ross Garfield Drums 2" Akai sampler CDs for = it. I=20 used to have a Roland SC880 which had a large quantity of great sounds. = I sold=20 it to get the S760 as to have an unlimited programmable palette of = sounds to=20 work with. These two sample CDs from East West seem to fit the bill. = It'd be=20 nice to have the huge collection of 80s synths, but purchasing them, = repairing=20 and maintaining them are not in my best interest. Collecting playable=20 multi-samples are and would fit the purpose of me having a sampler - To = have a=20 large collection of multi-sample/patches in my arsenal of already = prepared=20 instruments.
 
My dream is to one day accompany this = sampler with=20 a Flat Screen SVGA monitor (I'd use a sync box to convert the Composite = output=20 to the VGA output), mouse AND RC-100 controller. That'd be one PHAT = system, even=20 with the measly 32MB. I love Roland!
 
 
Later,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C17F4F.9CCE6340-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 7 19:39:49 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 19:39:41 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([196.1.142.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-29358>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 19:39:34 -0500 Received: from [208.11.49.25] ([208.11.49.25]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA08684; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:46:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001301c17f79$8a523be0$c752580c@epu1> References: <001301c17f79$8a523be0$c752580c@epu1> Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 19:38:53 -0500 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup I've decided. . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 6:47 pm -0500 7/12/2001, Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >Hey All, > >I've decided to keep my S760 and get the "First Call Vintage >Keyboards" and "Ross Garfield Drums 2" Akai sampler CDs for it. I >used to have a Roland SC880 which had a large quantity of great >sounds. I sold it to get the S760 as to have an unlimited >programmable palette of sounds to work with. These two sample CDs >from East West seem to fit the bill. It'd be nice to have the huge >collection of 80s synths, but purchasing them, repairing and >maintaining them are not in my best interest. Collecting playable >multi-samples are and would fit the purpose of me having a sampler - >To have a large collection of multi-sample/patches in my arsenal of >already prepared instruments. > >My dream is to one day accompany this sampler with a Flat Screen >SVGA monitor (I'd use a sync box to convert the Composite output to >the VGA output), mouse AND RC-100 controller. That'd be one PHAT >system, even with the measly 32MB. I love Roland! > > >Later, >Harold :-) welcome BACK Harold :-) don't know any of the two products above, but what is also great for 80's synths and drum kits is Digital Boy Modern Synths and Dance, available at www.ilio.com. I had it even before ilio distributed it and I love it. and it is already in roland's format. Just my 0.02Cents rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Dec 8 02:59:38 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19524>; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 02:59:30 -0500 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.111]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19524>; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 02:59:27 -0500 Received: from host62-7-61-127.btinternet.com ([62.7.61.127] helo=alan1) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16CcO2-00035L-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 07:59:07 +0000 Message-ID: <004001c17fbd$17d58420$1455fea9@alan1> From: "Alan Tyler" To: Subject: sgroup S-550 for Sale Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 02:50:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C17FBD.0D196880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C17FBD.0D196880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 110V S-550 for sale, Spares or Repair. The machine comes with an Atari monitor, System disks and a few sample = disks. Standard S-550 with faulty FDD. The unit worked fine until the original = FDD failed. I'd been having problems locating an original Toshiba drive = and Roland UK informed me that the TEAC FD 235 HS is a near-enough = direct replacement. Once again, I had some difficulty obtaining one of these but at the time = I did manage to get an FD 235 HF...this works but is not it's quite = right (glitches occasionally). The machine then sat in my studio for = ages...no time to play with it. It's got to go, so the price for S-550, Monitor and Disks: =A350. 00ukp Alan ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C17FBD.0D196880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
110V S-550 for sale, Spares or = Repair.
 
The machine comes with an Atari = monitor, System=20 disks and a few sample disks.
 
Standard S-550 with faulty FDD. The = unit worked=20 fine until the original FDD failed. I'd been having problems locating an = original Toshiba drive and Roland UK informed me that the TEAC FD 235 HS = is a=20 near-enough direct replacement.
 
Once again, I had some difficulty = obtaining one of=20 these but at the time I did manage to get an FD 235 HF...this works = but is=20 not it's quite right (glitches occasionally). The machine then sat = in my=20 studio for ages...no time to play with it.
 
 
It's got to go, so the price for S-550, = Monitor and=20 Disks: =A350. 00ukp
 
Alan

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From owner-sgroup Sat Dec 8 09:40:28 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19523>; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:40:22 -0500 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19523>; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:40:12 -0500 Received: from user-2ive12g.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.4.80] helo=mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Cie3-00038S-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 09:40:03 -0500 Message-ID: <3C1225C5.4AA2120A@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:37:57 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Roland Sample CDs on Sales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anybody have any experience with the sample CDs Denny Jaeger Violins, Phat n Phunky and Smoov Grooves on this page? http://www.soundsonline.com/specials.shtml The prices are pretty good if they're still in stock. The Jaeger violins gets a mixed review, and I'd like to know if the other two CDs are just loops or if they also contain the individual instruments and samples from the grooves (individual drums, bass, etc.). Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Dec 8 09:45:35 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19524>; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:45:28 -0500 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19523>; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:45:18 -0500 Received: from user-2ive12g.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.4.80] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Ciiy-0002rm-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 09:45:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3C1226F6.F7CACB1A@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 09:43:02 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup I've decided. . . References: <001301c17f79$8a523be0$c752580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > I've decided to keep my S760 and get the "First Call Vintage > Keyboards" and "Ross Garfield Drums 2" Akai sampler CDs for it. Is this the Vintage Keyboards CD you're talking about? http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=TASCDR56 I could only find it in AU/AIFF/WAV file format. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 00:11:23 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:11:14 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:11:04 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fBA5Asn54868 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:10:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail.worldonline.se (fe060.tiscali.se [213.204.128.156]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-23934>; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:17:20 -0500 Received: (qmail 6184 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2001 22:17:17 -0000 Received: from 132.ppp133.rsd.worldonline.se (HELO ?213.204.133.132?) (213.204.133.132) by mailgw1.tiscali.se with SMTP; 9 Dec 2001 22:17:17 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:12:32 -0500 Subject: sgroup S-760 with TV From: Knut Inge Gr=?ISO-8859-1?B?+A==?=sland To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, Anyone else using the video-out to connect S-760 to their TV? I have been doing this since I got my S-760 about half a year ago and I=B4m happy with this solution since it saves me space in my little appartment. Anyway, a few weeks after connecting my 760 this way the picure-tubs on the TV stopped working. Since I just had bought the TV I got a new one for free but it made me wondering if the 760 had anything to do with it. Now half a year later, even my new TV start showing signs and the screen getting blue for periods while watching TV. Both the TVs were bought second hand so there can also be normal malfunction, but after destroying two TVs in half a year I seriously wonder if it can be the S-760 sending out too strong signals and kill my TVs? Anyone with simmilar experience? greetings from knut Sweden - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 00:12:15 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193719-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:12:01 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:11:55 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fBA5BiW55125 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 00:11:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-23933>; Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:50:34 -0500 Received: from user-2ivf7oh.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.159.17] helo=cat9hvbm2dsj8u) by smtp6.mindspring.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16DCmC-0002gf-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 09 Dec 2001 17:50:28 -0500 Message-ID: <001701c18104$da892d80$119ff7a5@cat9hvbm2dsj8u> From: "Edward Raison" To: Subject: sgroup Hello Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 17:57:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C180DA.F1005040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C180DA.F1005040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone, Well, I finally located Sgroup. I knew there had to be a collection of = s-50 sdks somewhere out there... =20 I first used an s-50 in the college electronic music lab in 1989, and I = have not had one since then. I just bought one, and the digitizer = tablet, and a little antique monitor, for cheap on Ebay in perhaps an = attempt to recapture the feel of those heady days of Throbbing Gristle = and Zoviet France. I look forward to down and uploading some samples. regards, Edward vonHell http://www.octovox.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C180DA.F1005040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Everyone,
 
Well, I finally located Sgroup.  I = knew there=20 had to be a collection of s-50 sdks somewhere out there...  =
I first used an s-50 in the college = electronic=20 music lab in 1989, and I have not had one since then.  I just = bought one,=20 and the digitizer tablet, and a little antique monitor, for cheap on = Ebay in=20 perhaps an attempt to recapture the feel of those heady days of = Throbbing=20 Gristle and Zoviet France.  I look forward to down and uploading = some=20 samples.
regards,
Edward vonHell
http://www.octovox.com  =20
 
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hello everyone,
I am in desparate need of a manual for = the rolan=20 s-50 sampling keyboard.  If anyone has one of these or is willing = to make a=20 copy for me, could you please email me back.
Thanks,
Blake
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C180FB.CAC2DF80-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 05:18:22 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:18:14 -0500 Received: from babcom.loud-n-clear.net ([195.149.39.34]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:18:04 -0500 Received: from [194.222.136.163] by babcom.loud-n-clear.net (NTMail 7.00.0022/NT0640.00.09a44b03) with ESMTP id bcfmobaa for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:18:25 +0000 Message-ID: <001d01c18164$40195800$a388dec2@isengard> Reply-To: "jim harris" From: "jim harris" To: "Blake Ohlson" , References: Subject: Re: sgroup help, I need a manual Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 05:20:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C18164.3CB21120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C18164.3CB21120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A word of warning when you do track down a manual- it's awful! Not far = off gibberish, Roland's finest 'Japlish'. Also it makes no reference to = v2.0 of the operating system, only v1.0. Having said that it's better = than no manual at all. I figured my S50 out by learning the ropes with = a v1.0 disk (fortunately I had one in the collection that came with the = S50) and by plugging it into my telly so I could see the whole deal at = once, very helpful. I'd photocopy you a manual if I still had one. I = shifted my S50 a while back. Infact, I'm not sure why I'm still = subscribed ... maybe I just like lots of email! Having said that, whilst I don't miss the S50 much (hard to use, = cumbersome, but hey lovely nonetheless, built like a tank, feels serious = etc) I *do* miss it's sounds. I had most of the official Roland = collection (which isn't on that canadian site it was on anymore, anyone = know where it is?). Even tho they were multi-samples in less than a meg = they were just excellent sounds. If I come across an S330 cheap I'll = probably get it- a fine way to use up 1U of rack space. good luck jim ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Blake Ohlson=20 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 2:52 AM Subject: sgroup help, I need a manual hello everyone, I am in desparate need of a manual for the rolan s-50 sampling = keyboard. If anyone has one of these or is willing to make a copy for = me, could you please email me back. Thanks, Blake ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C18164.3CB21120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A word of = warning when you=20 do track down a manual- it's awful! Not far off gibberish, Roland's = finest=20 'Japlish'.  Also it makes no reference to v2.0 of the operating = system,=20 only v1.0.  Having said that it's better than no manual at = all.  I=20 figured my S50 out by learning the ropes with a v1.0 disk (fortunately I = had one=20 in the collection that came with the S50) and by plugging it into my = telly so I=20 could see the whole deal at once, very helpful.  I'd photocopy you = a manual=20 if I still had one.  I shifted my S50 a while back.  Infact, = I'm not=20 sure why I'm still subscribed ... maybe I just like lots of=20 email!
 
Having said that, whilst I don't miss = the S50 much=20 (hard to use, cumbersome, but hey lovely nonetheless, built like a tank, = feels=20 serious etc) I *do* miss it's sounds.  I had most of the official = Roland=20 collection (which isn't on that canadian site it was on anymore, anyone know where = it=20 is?).  Even tho they were multi-samples in less than a meg they = were just=20 excellent sounds.  If I come across an S330 cheap I'll probably get = it- a=20 fine way to use up 1U of rack space.
 
good luck
jim
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Blake=20 Ohlson
To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 = 2:52=20 AM
Subject: sgroup help, I need a=20 manual

hello everyone,
I am in desparate need of a manual = for the rolan=20 s-50 sampling keyboard.  If anyone has one of these or is willing = to make=20 a copy for me, could you please email me back.
Thanks,
Blake
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([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Dec 2001 14:12:39 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:13:15 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 with TV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Hi all, > >Anyone else using the video-out to connect S-760 to their TV? > >I have been doing this since I got my S-760 about half a year ago and I=B4m >happy with this solution since it saves me space in my little appartment. >Anyway, a few weeks after connecting my 760 this way the picure-tubs on the >TV stopped working. Since I just had bought the TV I got a new one for free >but it made me wondering if the 760 had anything to do with it. Now half a >year later, even my new TV start showing signs and the screen getting blue >for periods while watching TV. > >Both the TVs were bought second hand so there can also be normal >malfunction, but after destroying two TVs in half a year I seriously wonder >if it can be the S-760 sending out too strong signals and kill my TVs? > >Anyone with simmilar experience? I've been running : 760 video out>VCR>15" color TV for years and my TV still looks fine. -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 10:03:01 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:02:54 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:02:44 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fBAF2fd17325 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:02:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:02:41 -0500 From: John Sellens Message-Id: <200112101502.fBAF2fd17325@gc0.generalconcepts.com> To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup information on replacement floppy drives Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Stephan Morlock mentioned that he had got a generic Chinon floppy drive working in his S-50 - informaiton is at http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/fdrive.html Cheers John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 11:23:44 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:23:34 -0500 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:23:30 -0500 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169C3BD3B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from statler (IDENT:webmast@statler.blarg.net [206.124.128.12]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA08286 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:23:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3C14E17E.000001.16897@statler> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:23:26 -0500 From: blincoln To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 with TV X-Mailer: Blarg's WebMail v3.00.0 X-Info: http://www.blarg.net/ X-Contact-Info: support@blarg.net X-CCCUser: blincoln Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > even my new TV start showing signs and the screen getting blue > for periods while watching TV. That definitely doesn't sound like something due to having the sampler connected. Do you have any big speakers near the TV? A magnet will have that effect (pulling some or all of the colours to one side of the tube). - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 11:36:59 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:36:50 -0500 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:36:40 -0500 Received: from user-2ive1d1.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.5.161] helo=mindspring.com) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16DTPv-0001fO-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:36:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3C14E419.27E0E67@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:34:33 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Hello References: <001701c18104$da892d80$119ff7a5@cat9hvbm2dsj8u> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Welcome to the list. And please, participate; help us make the list even busier. A question for you - how do you use the digitizer pad? I have an S-550 but I don't have the digitizer. What could I do with my sampler I can't do now if I picked one up? Jesse > Edward Raison wrote: > I first used an s-50 in the college electronic music lab in 1989, and > I have not had one since then. I just bought one, and the digitizer > tablet, and a little antique monitor, for cheap on Ebay - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 12:04:23 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:04:13 -0500 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:04:03 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 16DTqN-000Hc9-0K; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 17:03:59 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:01:15 -0500 To: Jesse Segovia Cc: Sampler Group From: Richard Kilpatrick Subject: Re: sgroup Hello References: <001701c18104$da892d80$119ff7a5@cat9hvbm2dsj8u> <3C14E419.27E0E67@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3C14E419.27E0E67@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message <3C14E419.27E0E67@mindspring.com>, Jesse Segovia writes >Welcome to the list. And please, participate; help us make the list >even busier. > >A question for you - how do you use the digitizer pad? I have an S-550 >but I don't have the digitizer. What could I do with my sampler I can't >do now if I picked one up? Jesse, The Digitizer allows you to set envelopes and draw waveforms - loop points are set with the Alpha-dial. You obviously have to have a display plugged in, but the monochrome Composite output is perfectly adequate for this! I think that the S550 can't use the DT-100 digitzer, instead, it uses a mouse. Richard - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 13:20:54 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:20:47 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:20:33 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id KAA25556; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma025554; Mon, 10 Dec 01 10:28:59 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fBAIJrv31398 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:19:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.85]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:01:22 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id fBAGibJl014995 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 08:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GO50M300.MBU for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:01:15 -0800 Received: from localhost ([63.172.79.111]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GO50M200.00O for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 09:01:14 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:01:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v475) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: sgroup Clearance CDs at soundsonline.com From: Josh Carter To: Roland Sgroup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <89352C79-ED8F-11D5-BC28-0003930EC1DA@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.475) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey, Someone asked about the clearance CDs on www.soundsonline.com, but I accidentally deleted the message, it seems. I just bought "Phat and Phunky" for $29. So far I haven't had that much time to play with it, but I like what I've seen so far. I'm not one for using loops, but the CD (actually 2 CD set) has loops and every sample used in each loop, so it's great just to have as a drum/bass library. Sounds are definitely geared towards dance/rap/hip-hop, e.g. most open hi-hat samples sound like an 808-ish open hi-hat, not a real one. I was somewhat disappointed that there aren't more effects, scratches, and vocal snippets -- this is what I was hoping to find most. But the ones that are there are pretty cool. The CD is in Roland format, and laid out similar to Roland's CD libraries. There are volumes for different sets of loops and also individual samples, e.g. 3 volumes of just kick drums, a couple of hi-hat volumes, etc.. Very nicely arranged and easy to use. Overall, for $29, how could you go wrong? It's easily worth that if you have any interest at all in this genre, or techno or anything else that could use some "phat" electronic sounds. If you're just using the sampler to emulate acoustic instruments, this might be a library to pass on, but otherwise, I'd say grab it. My $.02, -Josh - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 13:56:40 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:56:32 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:56:22 -0500 Received: from smui08.eng00.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.127]) by holt.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16DVb1-0007u7-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:56:11 -0500 Received: by smui08.eng00.mindspring.net id NAA0000030668; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:56:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:56:13 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Clearance CDs at soundsonline.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.2.56 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk 'Sounds pretty good. Does anyone know about the 'Smoov Grooves' or 'Denny Jaeger Violins' CDs, also on sale at Soundonline? 'Same question with 'Smoov Grooves;' is it just loops or is it also individual samples like drums and bass? And I've of course heard the name Denny Jaeger before but this particular CD gets mixed reviews at the Soundsonline site. Jesse Josh Carter wrote: > I just bought "Phat and > Phunky" for $29. ... > I'm not one for using loops, but the > CD (actually 2 CD set) has loops and every sample used in each loop, so > it's great just to have as a drum/bass library. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 14:03:59 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:03:49 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:03:43 -0500 Received: from smui08.eng00.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.127]) by holt.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16DViG-0006D9-00; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:03:40 -0500 Received: by smui08.eng00.mindspring.net id OAA0000030179; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:03:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:03:40 -0500 From: To: Josh Carter Cc: Roland Sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup Clearance CDs at soundsonline.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.2.56 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Also, you said most of the samples are geared towards rap or hip-hop. What would you say about the drums and bass samples? Are they real drums as well as drum machines or just drum machines? And are the bass samples all synth bass? Jesse Josh Carter wrote: > Hey, - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 14:34:59 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:34:52 -0500 Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11883>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:34:42 -0500 Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (server-source-si02 [10.13.10.6]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.1/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id fBAJHNRi005546 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:17:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GO57PJ00.6J8 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:34:31 -0800 Received: from localhost ([63.172.79.111]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GO57PI00.D43; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 11:34:30 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:34:37 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Clearance CDs at soundsonline.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v475) Cc: Roland Sgroup To: From: Josh Carter In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.475) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Jesse, I just got the CD on Saturday and only had about 45 minutes to play with it, so I can't fully answer your question -- I haven't listened to everything yet. But that said, most drum sounds that I did audition were from drum machines with various kinds of effects on them. There were some sounds from acoustic kits; maybe 20%. I haven't listened to the bass or synth samples yet. Hopefully I'll get a chance to play with these more tonight or early this week and send out a more detailed report. BTW, let me know if you get responses about Smoov Grooves -- I was curious about that one, too. I didn't get it because it didn't say anything about individual samples. Best regards, Josh On Monday, December 10, 2001, at 12:03 PM, wrote: > Also, you said most of the samples are geared towards rap or hip-hop. > What would you say about the drums and bass samples? Are they real > drums as well as drum machines or just drum machines? And are the bass > samples all synth bass? > > Jesse > > Josh Carter wrote: >> Hey, - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 14:46:07 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25066>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:45:59 -0500 Received: from randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.237]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25066>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:45:49 -0500 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.22]) by randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16DWMz-0006wS-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:45:45 -0500 Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id OAA0000029152; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:45:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:45:45 -0500 From: To: Roland Sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup Clearance CDs at soundsonline.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.2.56 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I called East-West (btw, their phone number is 800-833-8339) and the guy read the booklet from the Smoov Grooves CD. It sounds as though the only individual samples you get are some but not all of the drum sounds. From what he could find, he didn't think they give you any of the other samples from the loops like the Rhodes epiano. So, if you think some kickin' Prince-style drum kit samples are worth $30, then it's a great price. If you're into the loops as well, I guess it's a no-brainer. Me, I just can't get into the assemble-your-own-music-from-mine thing with loops. I can appreciate what some folks can do with them, but that's just not where I am. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 14:50:52 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25066>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:50:46 -0500 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.98]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25066>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:50:31 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.c6.31b7269 (4185) for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:50:06 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:50:06 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 with TV To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Will this setup work without a mouse? Thanks Dave H. >>I've been running : 760 video out>VCR>15" color TV for years and my TV still looks fine.<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 14:55:24 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25066>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:55:15 -0500 Received: from mail11.speakeasy.net ([216.254.0.211]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 14:55:11 -0500 Received: (qmail 19695 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2001 19:55:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?4.22.158.4?) ([4.22.158.4]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 10 Dec 2001 19:55:09 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.speakeasy.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 13:55:43 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 with TV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Will this setup work without a mouse? > >Thanks >Dave H. > >>>I've been running : > >760 video out>VCR>15" color TV > >for years and my TV still looks fine.<< Hmmm...good question. personally I have never used the 760 without mouse/monitor so I don't know... -- ________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 18:12:30 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25066>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:12:25 -0500 Received: from babcom.loud-n-clear.net ([195.149.39.34]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-25066>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:12:09 -0500 Received: from [194.222.136.163] by babcom.loud-n-clear.net (NTMail 7.00.0022/NT0640.00.09a44b03) with ESMTP id iuncobaa for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:12:41 +0000 Message-ID: <003701c181d0$4470ac20$a388dec2@isengard> Reply-To: "jim harris" From: "jim harris" To: , "omz" References: Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 with TV Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:13:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk the s50 (which could be mouse operated) worked without a mouse using an external monitor no problem. You just used the cursor keys etc. The S760 whilst much more sophisticated is a direct descendant of the S50s/330s/550s etc so I don't see why not. jim - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 18:28:18 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:28:10 -0500 Received: from siaag1ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:28:00 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id SAA14154 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:27:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 18:27:26 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup no mouse? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200112101827_MC3-EA13-4D56@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk When you set the 760 up to use external monitor and mouse, the front pane= l cursor keys all still seem to work fine on all functions. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 10 23:25:13 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-6541>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:25:06 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-6541>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:24:51 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fBB4Oe701077 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:24:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-11884>; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 15:13:35 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-166-24.tnt11.me2.uunet.de [149.225.166.24]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id VAA28475 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:13:23 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C146C2D.56F31912@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 03:02:54 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 with TV References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Knut Inge Grøsland wrote: > > Hi all, > > Anyone else using the video-out to connect S-760 to their TV? > > I have been doing this since I got my S-760 about half a year ago and I´m > happy with this solution since it saves me space in my little appartment. > Anyway, a few weeks after connecting my 760 this way the picure-tubs on the > TV stopped working. Since I just had bought the TV I got a new one for free > but it made me wondering if the 760 had anything to do with it. Now half a > year later, even my new TV start showing signs and the screen getting blue > for periods while watching TV. > > Both the TVs were bought second hand so there can also be normal > malfunction, but after destroying two TVs in half a year I seriously wonder > if it can be the S-760 sending out too strong signals and kill my TVs? > > Anyone with simmilar experience? > > greetings from knut > Sweden Since you're in Sweden, I suppose you are using a PAL TV. Is your S-760 set to PAL mode? The TV mode (PAL or NTSC) can be set when you press the MODE button during power-up. I have been using a TV as monitor for my samplers for many years. But it is a black & white TV, these are probably more robust. It even works in both PAL and NTSC modes. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 11 00:59:02 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20266>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:58:53 -0500 Received: from siaag2ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.132]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20266>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:58:47 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag2ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id AAA21249 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:58:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:57:52 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup S-760 with TV To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200112110058_MC3-EA18-F16D@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >Since you're in Sweden, I suppose you are using a PAL TV. Is your S-760= set >to PAL mode? The TV mode (PAL or NTSC) can be set when you press the MO= DE >button during power-up. S760s sold in the US do not have that PAL/NTSC option. Only international= vesions did. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 11 03:39:27 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20268>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:39:20 -0500 Received: from pikus.o2.pl ([212.126.20.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20268>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:39:16 -0500 Received: from j0u1l5 (dial160.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl [217.30.130.160]) by pikus.o2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id E03B9147815 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:35:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <004801c1821f$cc9ca6e0$a0821ed9@j0u1l5> From: "slaq" To: References: Subject: sgroup RC-100 controller Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 03:42:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk just recently somebody mentioned the rc-100 controller for roland s7XX samplers. where can i find information on that one? or can you just write something about it? slaq - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 11 04:15:56 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20268>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 04:15:49 -0500 Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20268>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 04:15:43 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.2-X An9h) with ESMTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:15:36 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup RC-100 controller X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 04:15:34 -0500 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6026CDBFC@hati.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup RC-100 controller Thread-Index: AcGCH26N3FSm5VkyQ8GwECFUWHvY5gABNPGA From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "slaq" , Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! >just recently somebody mentioned the rc-100 controller for roland s7XX >samplers. where can i find information on that one? or can you just write >something about it? The RC-100 is the remote control unit for the Roland Samplers. Works also with the S330 and S550. The keys of the sampler frontplate are all on the RC-100 and also a data dial to change values faster. You can connect the mouse on the RC-100 so you can use both the RC-100 and MU-1 mouse at the same time (recommended operation mode). I have a picture online: home.pages.at/pullrich/roland_rc100.jpg Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. KAPSCH AG / ECCN Control Systems Vienna / Austria ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 11 09:46:14 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20268>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:46:09 -0500 Received: from mail2.jol.com.jm ([196.1.142.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20268>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:45:54 -0500 Received: from [208.11.49.100] ([208.11.49.100]) by mail2.jol.com.jm (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA30881; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 08:52:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200112110058_MC3-EA18-F16D@compuserve.com> References: <200112110058_MC3-EA18-F16D@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:45:23 -0500 To: dennis barton , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 with TV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 12:57 am -0500 11/12/2001, dennis barton wrote: > > > >Since you're in Sweden, I suppose you are using a PAL TV. Is your S-760 >set > >to PAL mode? The TV mode (PAL or NTSC) can be set when you press the MODE > >button during power-up. > >S760s sold in the US do not have that PAL/NTSC option. Only international >vesions did. hmmmm. you sure about this? when I bought my OP-760-1 in the US, it has a switch for pal or ntsc. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 11 14:32:44 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20268>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:32:36 -0500 Received: from siaag1ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20268>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:32:30 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id OAA08125; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:32:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:31:38 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup S-760 with TV To: Richard Sven Patterson , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200112111431_MC3-EA44-3F8A@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >hmmmm. you sure about this? when I bought my OP-760-1 in the US, it has= a >switch for pal or ntsc. One of my 760s is NTSC only. The other is switcbable. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 12 00:12:06 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3556>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:11:57 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3556>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:11:54 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id fBC5Bju49795 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:11:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from hotmail.com (f43.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.43]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20266>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:49:47 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:49:43 -0800 Received: from 64.33.161.3 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:49:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.33.161.3] From: "lukas klessig" To: jsellens@generalconcepts.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, majordomo@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Problem with Boss Dr. Sample Sp-303 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:49:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2001 00:49:43.0480 (UTC) FILETIME=[E36C6B80:01C182A6] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk

Hi, My name is Luke.  I know this may not be an appropriate thing to
do, but I need to solve a problem I am having.  I recently bought a
SP-303 Dr. Sample from American Musical Supply and have had success
with it except for a problem with importing Wav or Aiff data from my
computer.  I have all the necessary equipment (sampler, 64 Mb 3.3 Volt
Smartmedia Card, and a Zio! Smartmedia Reader/Writer).  It seems I can
write perfectly fine to the card and the Wav files are transferred
(44.1 mode of course).  But when I insert the card following the
manual's exact instructions (insert before turning on, etc.) I get no
UAU or AIF message meaning the data has been detected and is ready for
importation.  I have tried this every possible way.  I have cleared all
the data on the card except those files and have had all banks empty so
I could load them but still nothi! ng.  I used the exact filenames given
in the file.  I don't know what the problem is.  My computer displays
the Wav Files a!
s Winamp files but they are still completely wav in property.  I was
wondering if you have any advice or suggestions whatsoever to help me
in my problem.  Anything would be appreciated.  I have been put on hold
4 times at Boss/Roland and never recieve any support, and have mailed
and faxed them several times.  Please write back soon, and thanks for
your help, Luke.

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- Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 12 01:04:42 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3556>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 01:04:36 -0500 Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.165]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3556>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 01:04:26 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.15a.594f0c3 (4155) for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 01:04:17 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <15a.594f0c3.29484d61@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 01:04:17 -0500 Subject: sgroup Akai DR4D To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anyone here use an Akai DR4D? I tried to copy and paste a chorus line to another section of a song according to the book [I followed it excactly and tried several times] but my buttons won't light up at that point therefore I cannot proceed with the steps. Is the manual wrong or is my unit defective? The track button lights work and everything else works fine. Dave H. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 12 07:18:16 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3557>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 07:18:10 -0500 Received: from pikus.o2.pl ([212.126.20.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3557>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 07:18:00 -0500 Received: from j0u1l5 (dial1218.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl [217.30.134.202]) by pikus.o2.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id CD0B7147840 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:14:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <005101c18307$867e04e0$ca861ed9@j0u1l5> From: "slaq" To: References: <15a.594f0c3.29484d61@aol.com> Subject: sgroup s7XX sampler wanted Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 07:21:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi. one of my friends has been playing with my s750 and i get the impression he really likes it. now he wants his own s7xx machine, so... are there any for sale on the list? i can remember some people saying they wanted to part with their samplers? now, by the way - my friend is considering some swap possibilities as well. among the redundant gear in his studio - yamaha rm50 and siel opera 6 analogue synth. slaq - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 12 13:59:59 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-20351>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:59:51 -0500 Received: from server319.echo-du-turf.com ([64.91.232.204]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-20351>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:59:36 -0500 Received: from nobody by server319.echo-du-turf.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16EEbR-0003CZ-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:59:37 +0100 To: Subject: sgroup Greytsounds From: Reply-To: Subject: sgroup Greytsounds X-Originating-Ip: [66.128.101.131] X-Mailer: Mailoo v0.9.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:59:37 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server319.echo-du-turf.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hugin.uunet.ca X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [99 99] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - server319.echo-du-turf.com Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hmmm, it's been a week since I first emailed Greytsounds about the defective Mellotron disk for my S-550, and I have emailed them several times with absolutely no reply. This does not bode well. BaM ________________________________________________________________________ Mailoo: the universal webmail, for any ISP: FREE! www.mailoo.ht.st Mailoo : le webmail universel pour tout FAI : GRATUIT ! www.mailoo.fr.st - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 12 14:07:46 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-3247>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:07:36 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-3247>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:07:26 -0500 Received: from smui08.eng00.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.127]) by holt.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16EEiw-00067A-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:07:22 -0500 Received: by smui08.eng00.mindspring.net id OAA0000005455; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:07:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:07:19 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s7XX sampler wanted Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.2.107 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Your friend really wants to get an S-760, a single-unit rack mount, loaded with 32 Mb of RAM and with the added hardware adapter which allows you to connect a TV monitor and provides digital ins and outs. I know a fellow who was selling a few some time ago for $350 each - let me know if you'd like me to see if they're still available. Jesse slaq wrote: > now he wants his own s7xx machine, so... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Dec 12 14:12:28 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-3247>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:12:20 -0500 Received: from randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.237]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20351>; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:12:10 -0500 Received: from smui08.eng00.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.127]) by randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16EEmr-0007AL-00; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:11:25 -0500 Received: by smui08.eng00.mindspring.net id OAA0000010619; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:11:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:11:23 -0500 From: To: bmarek@biz1.net Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Greytsounds Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.2.107 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I spoke to Bob Grey last week and he's aware of your problem. He told me he needs to remake one of your disks and get it out to you. 'Not sure why he isn't responding, though. Jesse bmarek@biz1.net wrote: > Hmmm, it's been a week since I first emailed Greytsounds about the defective Mellotron disk for my S-550, and I have emailed them several times with absolutely no reply. This does not bode well. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 14 11:30:46 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-210>; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:30:37 -0500 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp02.web.de [217.72.192.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-210>; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:30:31 -0500 Received: from [217.87.82.61] (helo=[217.87.82.61]) by smtp.web.de with esmtp (Exim 3.40 #37) id 16EvE9-0005Dn-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:30:26 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1624) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:23:29 -0500 Subject: sgroup S750 @ ebay germany From: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen To: roland Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1308536777 Nikolaus Sieveking nap - nichtlineareaudioproduktionen - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 16 11:57:57 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2585>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:57:50 -0500 Received: from vesuri.Helsinki.FI (vesuri.helsinki.fi [128.214.205.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-2585>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:57:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by vesuri.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fBGGviY04266 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:57:44 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: vesuri.Helsinki.FI: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:57:42 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: sgroup Editing software? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi fellow S-users! My name is Jussi (but my friend call me JP), I live Finland and I am a happy owner of a S-760 (32MB) that I bought last week. The rest of my studio setup is on display at www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/studio.htm As I am new to the world of samplers, I would like to ask you for suggestions on SAMPLE EDITORS. Editing on the small display of the S-760 seems to be hard. I have some experinece using CoolEdit (on a PC) and would like to follow up on that. Are there perhaps more hardware related apps, like the Ak.sys for AKAI? jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 16 12:08:58 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2585>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:08:51 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-2585>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:08:41 -0500 Received: from user-2ive10t.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.4.29] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16FemA-0002dh-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:08:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3C1CD491.C4802F2D@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:06:25 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Editing software? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Have you tried connecting your S-760 to a computer monitor? You'll need a hardware add-on that installs in the back of the 760 (it's called something like the OP-760) and then either some kind of adapter or a monitor that already supports the kind of connections the 760 offers. Working the 760 (and the S-550 for that matter) is MUCH easier with the monitor. Jesse Jussi Piekkala wrote: > As I am new to the world of samplers, I would like to ask you for > suggestions on SAMPLE EDITORS. Editing on the small display of the S-760 > seems to be hard. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 16 12:11:15 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2585>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:11:11 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-2585>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:11:05 -0500 Received: from user-2ive10t.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.4.29] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16FeoS-0001a6-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:10:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3C1CD52E.1EC51C79@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:09:02 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Editing software? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Oh, and nice website. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 16 12:32:03 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2585>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:31:53 -0500 Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-2585>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:31:47 -0500 Received: from user-2ive10t.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.4.29] helo=mindspring.com) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Ff8U-0003ws-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:31:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3C1CDA05.1A219557@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:29:41 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Convert Loading Akai Sample CDs into the S-760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I recently received three new sample CDs but I haven't had time to listen to much of each one, but I will send a review to the list when I can. But I did want to mention that one of the CDs, 'Greytsounds Volume 1, The Best of Everything' is in Akai sample format, which I bought specifically to test the S-760 convert-load feature. I know many on-list have complained about how slow it is to read in Akai sample CDs but my experience with the Greytsounds CD was very good. Yes, it is slower to load in samples but not all that much slower. Another plus was that you get everything when you load in the sound, performance, patch, partial & sample information. Before I got the CD, I thought I'd have to load in the sounds, set up all the missing information, and then save it to a writeable storage device. But after having tried out convert load, I don't think I'll have to bother. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 17 12:01:53 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-25003>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:01:46 -0500 Received: from sirppi.helsinki.fi ([128.214.205.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-25004>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:01:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (piekkala@localhost) by sirppi.helsinki.fi (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fBHH1XM24187 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:01:34 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: sirppi.helsinki.fi: piekkala owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:01:32 -0500 From: Jussi Piekkala To: Subject: sgroup software for editing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Last night I asked about suitable software for editing samples. From the reply I learned that perhaps the S-760 in itself has the potential to be a good enough editor (if fitted with the external mouse and monitor). Now I have found that SoundDiver supports the S-760! Please see http://www.emagic.de/english/products/studiotools/sd/roland_s-760.html As far as I know, the SoundDiver is a very competent editor and librarian program that has drivers for almost any MIDI device. But what is the use of it on a sampler? In what way does it help with the tweaking of the sounds? jp ___________________________________________________________________________ jussi.piekkala@helsinki.fi >><< tel: 191 22414 fax: 191 23100 http://www.helsinki.fi/~piekkala/ gsm: 050-3389305 Diana: 95022414 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 17 13:43:41 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-25004>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:43:35 -0500 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-25004>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:43:24 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0dr.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.187] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16G2jN-0007Xy-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:43:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3C1E3C05.4E1FFED3@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:40:05 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup software for editing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yes, I saw this some time ago and I wondered what SoundDiver gave you that the S-760 doesn't. Judging from the website and given the number of editable objects, it would appear you can do any editing in SoundDiver you can from the 760 itself. I've got SoundDiver for my Pod amp modeler; it's great but the version that came free with the Pod only lets you edit the Pod and nothing else. Jesse Jussi Piekkala wrote: > Now I have found that SoundDiver supports the S-760! Please see > http://www.emagic.de/english/products/studiotools/sd/roland_s-760.html > > As far as I know, the SoundDiver is a very competent editor and > librarian program that has drivers for almost any MIDI device. But what is > the use of it on a sampler? In what way does it help with the tweaking of > the sounds? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 17 14:07:52 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-25003>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:07:47 -0500 Received: from randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.237]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-25004>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:07:32 -0500 Received: from smui00.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.20]) by randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16G36i-0006f7-00; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:07:24 -0500 Received: by smui00.slb.mindspring.net id OAA0000010774; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:07:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:07:24 -0500 From: To: Steve Schow Cc: Jesse Segovia , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup software for editing Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.1.50 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Steve Schow wrote: > Note > however, that I don't think Sounddiver deals at all with saving the > samples...it will only build a library of program parameters.. That's what I thought, which is why I never bothered to look into getting the whole program. It would be nice if it could dump wav files or other sample formats directly to the S-760, but I know Recycle! does that so that's what I'll be getting when I'm ready to start converting my wav. files. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 17 15:54:37 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-25004>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:54:30 -0500 Received: from siaag1ae.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-25004>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:54:19 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ae.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id PAA17001 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:54:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 15:53:38 -0500 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup software for editing To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200112171553_MC3-EAF4-8429@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >It would be nice if it could dump wav files or other sample formats >directly to the S-760, but I know Recycle! does that so that's what I'l= l be >getting when I'm ready to start converting my wav. files. > Wavelab does too. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 18 00:44:08 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-16513>; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:44:00 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-16513>; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:43:54 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBI5hkP75513 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 00:43:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail.san.yahoo.com ([209.132.1.30]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-25003>; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:59:01 -0500 Received: from sjspc (216.36.20.21) by mail.san.yahoo.com (5.5.054.2) id 3C1E260D0000438C; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 10:58:53 -0800 Message-ID: <009f01c1872c$d6ba2a00$6601a8c0@sjspc> Reply-To: "Steve Schow" From: "Steve Schow" To: "Jesse Segovia" , "Sampler Group" References: <3C1E3C05.4E1FFED3@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup software for editing Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:58:36 -0500 Organization: Backstage Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I haven't tried it yet...but...Sounddiver isn't going to give you anything that you can't already do with the S-760 by itself. Its just a more convenient interface and it lets you build a library of patches. Note however, that I don't think Sounddiver deals at all with saving the samples...it will only build a library of program parameters.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Segovia" To: "Sampler Group" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:40 AM Subject: Re: sgroup software for editing > Yes, I saw this some time ago and I wondered what SoundDiver gave you > that the S-760 doesn't. Judging from the website and given the number > of editable objects, it would appear you can do any editing in > SoundDiver you can from the 760 itself. > > I've got SoundDiver for my Pod amp modeler; it's great but the version > that came free with the Pod only lets you edit the Pod and nothing else. > > Jesse > > Jussi Piekkala wrote: > > Now I have found that SoundDiver supports the S-760! Please see > > http://www.emagic.de/english/products/studiotools/sd/roland_s-760.html > > > > As far as I know, the SoundDiver is a very competent editor and > > librarian program that has drivers for almost any MIDI device. But what is > > the use of it on a sampler? In what way does it help with the tweaking of > > the sounds? > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 21 18:08:34 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2119>; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:08:30 -0500 Received: from web10403.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.130.95]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-2119>; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:08:14 -0500 Message-ID: <20011221230811.69680.qmail@web10403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.180.239.90] by web10403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:08:11 PST Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:08:11 -0500 From: thememuzik productions Subject: sgroup w30 question To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-224093104-1008976091=:68753" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --0-224093104-1008976091=:68753 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How do I compile a disk made up of sounds and patches from other disks, in order to use those compiled sounds and patches to record a song? For example, I want the Drums patch from disk A, strings from disk B, clavi from disk C, etc. This is very frustrating... can anyone help? CHECK OUT MY MUSIC!!! www.rapstation.com/thememuzik --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. --0-224093104-1008976091=:68753 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

How do I compile a disk made up of sounds and patches from other disks, in order to use those compiled sounds and patches to record a song?

For example, I want the Drums patch from disk A, strings from disk B, clavi from disk C, etc.

This is very frustrating... can anyone help?



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From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 21 18:16:51 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2120>; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:16:43 -0500 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-2120>; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:16:37 -0500 Received: from user-2ive2rs.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.11.124] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16HYtr-0006TX-00; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:16:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3C23C25B.4DDBB9AC@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:14:35 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: thememuzik productions , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup w30 question References: <20011221230811.69680.qmail@web10403.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, on the S-50 or S-550 you'd have to make a set of all the patches you want in the sampler's memory and then just save that memory to a diskette. I once made a 'horn section' disk of all my favorite brass samples for my S-550. Does the sample memory of the W-30 map to a single diskette or two? Jesse thememuzik productions wrote: > > How do I compile a disk made up of sounds and patches from other > disks, in order to use those compiled sounds and patches to record a > song? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 21 19:24:02 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-2120>; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:23:53 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-2120>; Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:23:50 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.88.1126bee2 (4530); Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:23:39 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <88.1126bee2.29552c8b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:23:39 -0500 Subject: sgroup w30 question To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, thememuzik@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Here you go...I sent a copy to you and the list Loading One Patch at a Time... 1. Enter Sound Mode and select FD Load Patch 2. Insert the system's disk and press F1 to execute 3. First you must select a desitnation for your new Patch. When you get to this Page, the cursor currently is on the Destination Parameter. Select an empty location (not named), or a Patch you don't mind deleting. 4. Find a Patch Location currently holding an unwanted Patch. Delete the Patch by pressing F4 then press F1 at the prompt. 5. Now you have an empty location and more memory in RAM for new data. The remaining RAM memory is shown on the top line of the display (two banks of 7.2 seconds each.) 6. Move the cursor to the Disk parameter below the Destination. Scroll through the Patches on the disk until you find the one you want to load. 7. Press [Fl] to load the new patch into the Destination Location. When the process is complete, note that the remaining memory is less than before you loaded the patch. 8. Go to Performance Mode and you'll see that the new Patch is now in the Destination Location, and can be called up for play from the keyboard or by the sequencer. 9. Continue to load patches this way until you have the ensemble you want. If you remember to DELETE the unnecessary Patches, you have a much better chance of getting all the Patches you want. 10. Save your new patches to disk. To save changes to disk... Use a formatted 720k DD/DS floppy disk. 1. Press Sound 2. Select Disk 3. Select FD Save Sound 4. Select Save Set. Dial in again if you need more help. Dave H. >>How do I compile a disk made up of sounds and patches from other disks, in order to use those compiled sounds and patches to record a song? For example, I want the Drums patch from disk A, strings from disk B, clavi from disk C, etc. This is very frustrating... can anyone help?<< - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 23 09:41:43 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19954>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:41:35 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19954>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:41:25 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBNEfKt75846 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:41:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.195.174]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19954>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:19:39 -0500 Received: from [195.92.168.141] (helo=tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk) by cmailg4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 16I9TQ-0006wx-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:19:32 +0000 Received: from modem-1739.lemur.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.134.203] helo=familydesktop) by tmailb1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 16I9TP-0005d7-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:19:31 +0000 Message-ID: <001101c18bbc$d6fcf8a0$cb8687d9@familydesktop> From: "Rik Loveridge" To: Subject: sgroup New boy questions Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 09:19:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Rik from England here. Just dusted down my Roland S750 after about 8 years. With progress of time I've got loads of questions. If anyone can help on any of them, I'd be grateful:- OS level - Any idea what the latest level is ? Roland site is unclear. Where can I get latest version ? CD-ROMs - My trusty Apple SCSI single speed got stolen. Modern ones I've tried are unsupported or too fast. Any idea on compatibility (Roland never respond to emails in my experience). SOUNDS - It's probably time for some new ones. Where and how these days ? Has anybody devised a way of sharing or delivering via the web (whilst maintaining copyright of course !). Does anyone have a cost effective source for 'ye olde Roland CD-ROMs' ? MEMORY - I'm fully configured at 16Mbs, but it just ain't enough these days. Anybody managed to squeeze more in ? PC software samplers - Has anyone got one ? (Halion/EXS24/Gigasampler etc.) Can you comment on effective they are compared to a dedicated h/w sampler ? Depends largely on soundcards I suppose, so pls state what you have. SOUNDFONTS - Some of these sound 'OK' but don't grab me. Are any others convinced, or have a cost effective source ? DEMOS - Anybody sharing demos ? That'll give a good idea of what's possible with the sound palettes you have. Any input is valued. It'd make my Christmas ! Merry Christmas to you all. Kind regards, Rik Loveridge - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 23 11:46:00 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-19954>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:45:54 -0500 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-19954>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:45:44 -0500 Received: from user-2ive0ce.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.1.142] helo=mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16IBkj-0004jG-00; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:45:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3C2609BF.B46F8B6C@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:43:43 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rik Loveridge , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup New boy questions References: <001101c18bbc$d6fcf8a0$cb8687d9@familydesktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Rik Loveridge wrote: > CD-ROMs - My trusty Apple SCSI single speed got stolen. Modern ones I've > tried are unsupported or too fast. Any idea on compatibility (Roland never > respond to emails in my experience). Those Apple CD players are still easy to come by on ebay. I don't know about shipping to the UK but you'll probably find some UK sources. I think I paid about twenty or thirty dollars including shipping for my e400 4X. > SOUNDS - It's probably time for some new ones. Where and how these days ? > Has anybody devised a way of sharing or delivering via the web (whilst > maintaining copyright of course !). Does anyone have a cost effective source > for 'ye olde Roland CD-ROMs' ? Go to www.westlamusic.com. They have some of the old Roland single CDs on blow-out ($29.99 each!). I'm sure they'd ship to the UK. Their selection is down a bit, though. And someone else on list said there are two stores with different selections, so you should try to find both and call them. As for 3rd party CDs, a couple of cheap ones have been mentioned on list recently. If you can't find the posts in the list archive let me know and I'll repost. > SOUNDFONTS - Some of these sound 'OK' but don't grab me. Are any others > convinced, or have a cost effective source ? I don't know much about soundfonts or how to use them. I assume they're individual sound samples you can use with the PCs soundcard, right? To replace the very cheesy MIDI sounds Windows comes with. Is there a good online source that explains exactly how to use them? Meanwhile, here's a source for soundfonts. 'Don't know if it's cost-effective or not: http://www.sampleheads.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/?E+scstore > DEMOS - Anybody sharing demos ? That'll give a good idea of what's possible > with the sound palettes you have. Great idea, I'd be very interested in this. Maybe our list meister can set up a location on the sgroup list website for these kind of uploads. I've just been re-mastering some very old MIDI demos I did on a Tascam Portastudio. I moved the basic tracks over to my AW4416 digital workstation and whenever there's time, I've been mixing them and burning them to CDs. Maybe I'll do an mp3 or two and put them up. > Merry Christmas to you all. Thanks, and Happy Christmas to you, too. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 23 14:09:29 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-19954>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:09:19 -0500 Received: from VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-19954>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:09:16 -0500 Received: from [24.200.105.75] ([24.200.105.75]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GOT97Q02.1IY for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:09:26 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:14:59 -0500 Subject: sgroup S750 From: "R.Lemay" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The URL to get the latest (v 2.25) of the S750 OS is : http://www.rolandus.com/SUPPORT/SOFTWARE/download/MACSAMP/S770225.hqx Infos and compatibility of drives: http://www.rolandus.com/SUPPORT/DOCS/SUPNOTES/DSCOMP2.HTM Joyeux No=EBl to you all! Richard sremmele@videotron.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 23 15:50:39 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-19955>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:50:31 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-19955>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:50:25 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBNKoMb86160 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:50:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net ([209.240.198.118]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-19955>; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:05:22 -0500 Received: from storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net (storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.120]) by mailsorter-105-2.iap.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B6B12FB for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id KAA17462; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 10:05:14 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRATU3t0vVracpRLluAUfVgbEL8QAIVAJs6SHxeFTin2Lg6VO3sK3p5xE2M From: golfman6@webtv.net (Jim Lott) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:05:14 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup roland samplers Message-ID: <5247-3C261CDA-6928@storefull-233.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Are there any users in Nashville area please contact me - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Dec 24 12:17:26 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-22648>; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:17:18 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-22648>; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:17:15 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBOHH6125264; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:17:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:17:06 -0500 From: John Sellens Message-Id: <200112241717.fBOHH6125264@gc0.generalconcepts.com> To: jsegovia@mindspring.com, loveridger@yahoo.co.uk, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup New boy questions Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 11:43:43 -0500 | From: Jesse Segovia | | > DEMOS - Anybody sharing demos ? That'll give a good idea of what's possible | > with the sound palettes you have. | | Great idea, I'd be very interested in this. Maybe our list meister can | set up a location on the sgroup list website for these kind of uploads. I'm open to the possibility. I can't handle full CD-ROMs, but smaller files (MP3's, MIDI files, etc.) are all quite possible. Let me know if you have something to contribute, and we'll get it happening. Cheers, happy appropriate occasion! John jsellens@generalconcepts.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 25 20:06:43 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-17296>; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:06:34 -0500 Received: from web10406.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.130.98]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-17296>; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:06:30 -0500 Message-ID: <20011226010626.18345.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.180.239.90] by web10406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 17:06:26 PST Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:06:26 -0500 From: thememuzik productions Subject: sgroup :( To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <001101c18bbc$d6fcf8a0$cb8687d9@familydesktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1872379186-1009328786=:16086" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --0-1872379186-1009328786=:16086 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Man... I guess the old w30 is finally on its way out. I was trying to sample something yesterday, and every sample I recorded in there was "garbled" when I played it back. But for some reason, when I held the pitch bend, the "garbledness" was gone. So I tried loading up old beats, same thing. I feel like I'm losing my girlfriend. Has anyone else experienced this? Be CHECK OUT MY MUSIC!!! www.rapstation.com/thememuzik --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. --0-1872379186-1009328786=:16086 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Man... I guess the old w30 is finally on its way out.  I was trying to sample something yesterday, and every sample I recorded in there was "garbled" when I played it back.  But for some reason, when I held the pitch bend, the "garbledness" was gone.  So I tried loading up old beats, same thing.  I feel like I'm losing my girlfriend.  Has anyone else experienced this?

 

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Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. --0-1872379186-1009328786=:16086-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Dec 25 20:26:22 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-17296>; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:26:16 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-17296>; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:26:00 -0500 Received: from lovecraft.demon.co.uk ([193.237.49.253]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 16J2pM-000IS2-0Y; Wed, 26 Dec 2001 01:25:52 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:19:20 -0500 To: thememuzik productions Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Kilpatrick Subject: Re: sgroup :( References: <001101c18bbc$d6fcf8a0$cb8687d9@familydesktop> <20011226010626.18345.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20011226010626.18345.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U <4sBozn1PrZKL1rPZNsc45wzJ1s> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In message <20011226010626.18345.qmail@web10406.mail.yahoo.com>, thememuzik productions writes > > Man... I guess the old w30 is finally on its way out.  I was trying > to sample something yesterday, and every sample I recorded in there > was "garbled" when I played it back.  But for some reason, when I > held the pitch bend, the "garbledness" was gone.  So I tried > loading up old beats, same thing.  I feel like I'm losing my > girlfriend.  Has anyone else experienced this? I'm guessing here, but it sounds to me like the contacts on your pitch bend have oxidised and are feeding the synth varied data regarding pitch, especially since moving the bender 'cures' the fault. Certainly can't think of any other reason for it (if you were in Scotland, I'd come over and listen and I could fix it if it were that). It's usually a fairly simple task to get into a Roland synth, they're very well designed. Some electrical contact cleaner carefully sprayed into the bender pot will hopefully cure it. Richard -- Richard Kilpatrick, long haired prophet of doom. |\ _,,,---,,_ Musical suicide - www.mp3.com/RichardKilpatrick /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, Work: Icon Publications, Group Sales Manager |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'::. Homepage: http://www.lovecraft.demon.co.uk/ '----''(_/--' `-'\_)Morticia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 28 14:40:33 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-5570>; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:40:25 -0500 Received: from sokol.lm.pl ([212.126.20.41]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-5570>; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:40:18 -0500 Received: from j0u1l5 (dial1760.wroclaw.dialog.net.pl [217.30.154.236]) by sokol.lm.pl (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A4DC19E731 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 20:40:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <006c01c18fd7$72568d20$ec9a1ed9@j0u1l5> From: "slaq" To: Subject: sgroup rc-100 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 14:40:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01C18FDF.D3625380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C18FDF.D3625380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, there is a bloke who's offering me the rc-100 controller at a = bargain price. well, i've been using a mouse and a monitor with my s750 = for some time now and i'm quite used to it. would it be better to use = the rc-100 instead? is it better live? well, i think i need some advice = cause i'm still in two minds about it... HNY slaq ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C18FDF.D3625380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi, there is a bloke who's = offering me the=20 rc-100 controller at a bargain price. well, i've been using a mouse and = a=20 monitor with my s750 for some time now and i'm quite used to it. would = it be=20 better to use the rc-100 instead? is it better live? well, i think i = need some=20 advice cause i'm still in two minds about it...
 
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From owner-sgroup Fri Dec 28 16:36:11 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-5568>; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:36:01 -0500 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-5568>; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:35:57 -0500 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id NAA11141; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma011138; Fri, 28 Dec 01 13:44:51 -0800 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBSLZR305255 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:35:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-5570>; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:18:26 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.2-X An9h) with ESMTP; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 22:18:11 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: sgroup rc-100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:18:10 -0500 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6026CDCF6@hati.kapsch.co.at> Thread-Topic: sgroup rc-100 Thread-Index: AcGP157eJ2kCaIrkQBqeR99O8wkC0AADUR+t From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "slaq " , Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! >hi, there is a bloke who's offering me the rc-100 controller at a >bargain price. well, i've been using a mouse and a monitor with my s750 >for some time now and i'm quite used to it. would it be better to use >the rc-100 instead? is it better live? well, i think i need some advice >cause i'm still in two minds about it... =20 It is quite nice as the buttons of the front panel are direct accessable (and so faster than per mouse) but my opinion is that is is not really necessary... I bought mine for about 200$ and would not do that again (for that amount). Ciao Peter http://www.ullrich.at.tt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Dec 29 09:12:07 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-27188>; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:11:58 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-27188>; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:11:52 -0500 Received: (qmail 4742 invoked by uid 0); 29 Dec 2001 14:11:49 -0000 Received: from a2as08-p134.hh.tli.de (HELO BIGOS2) (212.221.224.134) by mail.gmx.net (mp010-rz3) with SMTP; 29 Dec 2001 14:11:49 -0000 From: wrolf@gmx.de Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 06:31:46 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup 1 single key not working X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.29k/29 Message-Id: <2001Dec29.091152edt.193713-27188@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello to all, on my Roland W-30, one single key is no more sounding / working. Did someone encounter this problem, and how can I solve it ? By the way, does someone know what kind of key contacts the W-30 uses ? Has it electric contacts or has it an optical keyboard ? Thank you for your answer(s). Wilhelm - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Dec 29 09:12:50 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-27188>; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:12:40 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193715-27188>; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:12:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 29330 invoked by uid 0); 29 Dec 2001 14:12:12 -0000 Received: from a2as08-p134.hh.tli.de (HELO BIGOS2) (212.221.224.134) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 29 Dec 2001 14:12:12 -0000 From: wrolf@gmx.de Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 07:00:50 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Strange noise from the W-30 X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.29k/29 Message-Id: <2001Dec29.091219edt.193715-27188@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello to all, my Roland W-30 makes a strange high frequency noise whenever I switch it on. It is not loud, and comes from the inner of it, but it annoys the player pretty much in the moments of silence... When I had to disassemble the W-30 because of a disk drive exchange, I tried to find out where the noise comes from: It comes from a little cube of metal on the left side of the main board. There must be a high frequency coil or transformator in it. By the way, I got an electric shock when I touched its contacts. I thought it would be good if I could pour some polyester resin into the coil, to prevent it from vibrating, so I tried to remove the metal cube from the coil by heating up the two points of its fixation with the soldering iron, but since the metal cube did not move, I guess the coil or transformator is already attached to the metal cube by a polyester resin or wax or something. Does someone know what this coil or transformator is for ? I' m not familiar with liquid crystal displays, do they need a high frequency high voltage ? But they aren't cathodic ray tubes ?? :-) Do all W-30s make this high-frequency noise ? How can one make this noise stop ? Thank you for your answer(s) Wilhelm - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 30 11:26:39 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:26:29 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:26:26 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBUGQOH25474 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:26:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-27187>; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 11:37:08 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-32-110.tnt5.me2.uunet.de [149.225.32.110]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id RAA08030 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:37:04 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C2DDC78.4782D859@cityweb.de> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 10:08:42 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Strange noise from the W-30 References: <2001Dec29.091219edt.193715-27188@hugin.uunet.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk wrolf@gmx.de wrote: > > Hello to all, > > my Roland W-30 makes a strange high frequency noise whenever I switch it > on. It is not loud, and comes from the inner of it, but it annoys the > player pretty much in the moments of silence... I don't have a W-30 but a Roland A-80 masterkeyboard. Same problem here. > When I had to disassemble the W-30 because of a disk drive exchange, I > tried to find out where the noise comes from: It comes from a little cube > of metal on the left side of the main board. There must be a high > frequency coil or transformator in it. By the way, I got an electric shock > when I touched its contacts. This is probably for the display background lighting. This requires a high voltage. On my A-80 the lighting got pretty dim (these things go dim with age) so I considered disconnecting it, but haven't done that yet. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 30 11:26:49 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:26:42 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:26:36 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBUGQX325479 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:26:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-27187>; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 11:37:11 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-32-110.tnt5.me2.uunet.de [149.225.32.110]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id RAA08050 for ; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 17:37:07 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C2DDCE4.B628CAB8@cityweb.de> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 10:10:30 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup 1 single key not working References: <2001Dec29.091152edt.193713-27188@hugin.uunet.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk wrolf@gmx.de wrote: > > Hello to all, > > on my Roland W-30, one single key is no more sounding / working. Did > someone encounter this problem, and how can I solve it ? > > By the way, does someone know what kind of key contacts the W-30 uses ? > Has it electric contacts or has it an optical keyboard ? Did you ask Roland? Last time I called Roland Germany there were very cooperative. They sell service manuals and replacemant parts to private people. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 30 12:10:31 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-6986>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:10:22 -0500 Received: from hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.23]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-6986>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:10:19 -0500 Received: from smui00.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.20]) by hitchcock.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16KjTS-0003rD-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:10:14 -0500 Received: by smui00.slb.mindspring.net id MAA0000027151; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:10:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:10:14 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Roland Sample CDs Cheap on Ebay Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.12.221 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Several Roland sample CDs are being sold on ebay right now. I saw the Africa 1, Jazz Composer, Roland Orchestra and Keyboards of 60s & 70s Vol. 1 CDs, and there might be more. Here's a link to one of them: Roland Africa 2 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1400523266 Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 30 12:19:45 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-6986>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:19:39 -0500 Received: from holt.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.187]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-6986>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:19:28 -0500 Received: from smui00.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.20]) by holt.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16KjcG-0005O8-00 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:19:20 -0500 Received: by smui00.slb.mindspring.net id MAA0000026541; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:19:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:19:20 -0500 From: To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Nicebeats SynthLine Sample CDs Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.12.221 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Does anyone know about the SynthLine series of sample CDs from a German company called Nicebeats? There are a bunch of their CDs in Akai formats (not Roland, unfortunately) on ebay right now for about $7.00 each! You can't go wrong at that price, and there seems to be a great selection. Does anyone have any experience with this company or heard their samples? I sent an email asking if there's a website where you can get more info, and how much shipping to the US will cost - no reply yet. If the shipping is reasonable I'll probably get one just to check it out. But which one - there are LOTS of synths available! Here's a link to one: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1401489966 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 30 13:13:43 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:30 -0500 Received: from randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([207.69.200.237]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:24 -0500 Received: from smui02.slb.mindspring.net ([199.174.114.25]) by randall.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16KkSW-00052d-00; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:20 -0500 Received: by smui02.slb.mindspring.net id NAA0000030043; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:20 -0500 From: To: Ingo Debus Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: Re: sgroup Strange noise from the W-30 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.12.221 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Ingo Debus wrote: > I don't have a W-30 but a Roland A-80 masterkeyboard. Besides the problems you mentioned, what do you think of your A-80? One of these days I think I'll pick up an 88 key weighted keyboard controller for my sampler and synth modules, and I've seen them on ebay and in my local want ads for around $600 US. Is this a good price and given today's new technology and prices, is this still a good unit? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 30 13:13:51 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-6986>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:45 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:37 -0500 Received: (qmail 1767 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 2001 18:13:33 -0000 Received: from p3ee2e3c1.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO BIGOS2) (62.226.227.193) by mail.gmx.net (mp006-rz3) with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 18:13:33 -0000 From: wrolf@gmx.de Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:12:29 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <3C2DDC78.4782D859@cityweb.de> Subject: sgroup Re: Turned off LCD light (Strange noise from the W-30) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.29k/29 Message-Id: <2001Dec30.131337edt.193713-6987@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello Ingo, >This is probably for the display background lighting. This requires a >high voltage. On my A-80 the lighting got pretty dim (these things go dim >with age) so I considered disconnecting it, but haven't done that yet. Great idea - I just tried it out and I had success ! The *%&#§$!@* noise has gone away. It required me to interrupt the input signal of the high frequency transformer (disconnecting the display-light led only to a different sound, but not to silence) - to do that, I just cut the copper on the circuit board at the appropriate place with a scalpel. Later, I will solder a cable there leading to a switch whith which I will be able to turn the display light on and off (and the annoying high frequency noise too). I find that I can live very well with that solution - now I need light of course, but the situation is similar to when one uses a pocket calculator (which mostly have no light on display either). By the way, my display is pretty dim too. There is dirt in it - but as far as I could see when I had the display in my hand the other day, it can't be opened, or has soemone ever tried that? Thanks for the idea Wilhelm - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 30 14:22:06 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-6986>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:21:56 -0500 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cpe0080c8d41db5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-6986>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:21:50 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fBUJLnu30882 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:21:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from localhost (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fBUIFmD28957 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:15:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wrolf@gmx.de) Received: from pop.uunet.ca [142.77.1.51] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.8.17) for gcjs@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail4.uunet.ca ([209.167.141.34]) by munin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <359835-25756>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:10 -0500 Received: from hugin.uunet.ca ([209.167.141.2]) by mail4.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <208396-18960>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:08 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193713-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:13:03 -0500 Received: (qmail 17507 invoked by uid 0); 30 Dec 2001 18:12:54 -0000 Received: from p3ee2e3c1.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO BIGOS2) (62.226.227.193) by mail.gmx.net (mp003-rz3) with SMTP; 30 Dec 2001 18:12:54 -0000 From: wrolf@gmx.de Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:09:47 -0500 To: sgroup-owner@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <3C2DDC78.4782D859@cityweb.de> Subject: sgroup Re: Turned off LCD light (Strange noise from the W-30) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v2.29k/29 Message-Id: <2001Dec30.131303edt.193713-6987@hugin.uunet.ca> Status: R Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello Ingo, >This is probably for the display background lighting. This requires a >high voltage. On my A-80 the lighting got pretty dim (these things go dim >with age) so I considered disconnecting it, but haven't done that yet. Great idea - I just tried it out and I had success ! The *%&#§$!@* noise has gone away. It required me to interrupt the input signal of the high frequency transformer (disconnecting the display-light led only to a different sound, but not to silence) - to do that, I just cut the copper on the circuit board at the appropriate place with a scalpel. Later, I will solder a cable there leading to a switch whith which I will be able to turn the display light on and off (and the annoying high frequency noise too). I find that I can live very well with that solution - now I need light of course, but the situation is similar to when one uses a pocket calculator (which mostly have no light on display either). By the way, my display is pretty dim too. There is dirt in it - but as far as I could see when I had the display in my hand the other day, it can't be opened, or has soemone ever tried that? Thanks for the idea Wilhelm - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 30 14:44:46 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193713-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:44:39 -0500 Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193715-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:44:32 -0500 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 6.3b.1fcf3d57 (18707) for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:44:26 -0500 (EST) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <3b.1fcf3d57.2960c89a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:44:26 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Re: Turned off LCD light (Strange noise from the W-30) To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 121 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >>By the way, my display is pretty dim too. There is dirt in it - but as far as I could see when I had the display in my hand the other day, it can't be opened, or has soemone ever tried that? Thanks for the idea Wilhelm<< Wil that is a very long and tedious job. The cleaning part is easy but getting in there is the big problem. It can be done but be prepared for some work. My friend did it but said he will never do it again. Sorry I do not have specifics but I thought you will like to know that right off. Roland of course charges to do the work. Dave H. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Dec 30 18:51:35 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193715-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:51:26 -0500 Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-6987>; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:51:20 -0500 Received: from [67.112.55.48] (ppp-67-112-55-48.dialup.anhm01.pacbell.net [67.112.55.48]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fBUNpHD233730 for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:51:17 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:51:16 -0500 Subject: sgroup RC100 From: Daniel Walters To: Sgroup Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk In case anyone is currently looking for an RC100, www.zzounds.com has NOS units for $69.95. I just bought one, box was factory sealed and brand spankin' new. It was about $75.00 shipped to my door 2nd day air. There in no manual with the unit, so it takes a bit of "hmm, let's see what THIS button does" because the legending is not S760 specific. I'm thinking a label maker will fix that nicely. The thing is built like a tank, typical heavy-duty Roland build quality. I like it better than using a mouse, but you can plug a mouse into it and use both (although the x and y axis are now reversed, something to deal with in a future posting) Regards, Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.