Re: sgroup A fun new way of sharing sample disks (For

Hey All,

I think that if = Roland wanted to=20 release a killer sampler, they'd have to
use the same = open-architecture=20 (per say) technique that they applied to
their VS and JV units. For = example, they would release a stock sampler with
no options. The = user could=20 add an effects card (similar to the VS8F2 for the
VS1680) if they = wanted=20 effects. For Roland to have an edge, they should at
least pop for = 32MB=20 standard with a possible expansion for 2GB or even 4GB -
Then add=20 gigasampler convert capability.

One of the reasons so many = people=20 popped for the S760 was that it was way
ahead of it's time. It's = only 9=20 years later that people started mass-selling
their S760s. Most of = them were=20 selling them for Gigasamplers. Roland would
have to be able to = compete to=20 get people to run back. Emu does well because
their samplers can = convert=20 almost anything. Roland should allow this. Their
new sampler would = have to=20 read MS-DOS disks. We don't live in a proprietary
Commodore, Atari, = PC, Mac=20 world anymore like we did when the S760 was
released (Damn I wish = Commodore=20 could make a comeback).

Digital I/O and Mouse capabilities = should also=20 be optional. The more options
the better. I could really see a = sampler like=20 this coming in at $2000 in a
year or so. They could even release an = S950=20 that could be half as
expandable. The sampler should have VGA or = RGB output=20 (remain back
compatibility). Did I mention that this sampler should = also be=20 1U
rackmountable?

Later,
Harold

----- Original = Message=20 -----
From: Richard Sven Patterson <rsp@richardsven.com>
To: = Harold=20 Everton, Jr. <evertonrecords@worldnet.a= tt.net>;
<shockwavejim@kerb.co.uk>Cc:=20 <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Se= nt:=20 Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: sgroup The=20 future

> >
> >
> >Let's check this = out.=20 What would you all expect from Roland if they were
to
> = >put out a=20 new sampler? Let's call it the Roland S960. What would it = have
to
>=20 >have in order for you to buy it?
> >
> = >Later,
>=20 >Harold
> >
> >
>
>
> okay I = get to=20 dream on my dream sampler :-)
>
> 1. 128 voice polyphony,=20 expandable to 256 if you can do it without
> much voice = slop...
>=20 2. be able to read akai,emu of course roland and ensoniq samples. = at
>=20 least akai and emu....
> 3. must have a video out port..and be = able to=20 connect to a mouse etc.
> 4. 24 bit a/d, d/a's.
> 5. Mono = Legato=20 mode for crying out loud, how can the s-760 NOT have
> legato?!! = :-)
> 6. RAM expandable to about 512MB...use more modern cheaper = ram...
> 7. be able to at least see up to 80 GB hard = drives..
> 8.=20 8 outputs..
> 9. simpler to use DSP's...in the OS..how hard must = it be=20 to do a
> simple cut and paste? :-)
>
> = rsp
>
>=20 --
> richard sven=20 = patterson          &nbs= p;       =20 rsp@richardsven.com
> = = 876-924-2898          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;    =20 "to fight for truth, justice
> 876-925-1247=20 = (fax)           &n= bsp;          =20 and the analytical way"
>
>
> Please note NEW EMAIL = ADDRESS:=20 rsp@richardsven.com
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C13004.30771EC0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Aug 29 01:25:09 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:25:03 -0400 Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:24:56 -0400 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id 6.117.3d8a17a (4249) for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:24:46 -0400 (EDT) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <117.3d8a17a.28bdd69d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:24:45 -0400 Subject: sgroup Cannot get pass a certain screen... To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_117.3d8a17a.28bdd69d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10532 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_117.3d8a17a.28bdd69d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I get this screen... Controller = Mouse + CRT Please see your CRT After booting my S760 for the first time. Sounds like the system is looking for a mouse and monitor? How can I get into the sampler? I do not have the manual yet. Thanks again Dave --part1_117.3d8a17a.28bdd69d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I get this screen...

Controller = Mouse + CRT
Please see your CRT

After booting my S760 for the first time. Sounds like the system is looking
for a mouse and monitor?

How can I get into the sampler? I do not have the manual yet.

Thanks again
Dave --part1_117.3d8a17a.28bdd69d_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Aug 29 01:39:29 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:39:21 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cr966072-a.mtmk1.on.wave.home.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:39:11 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f7T5d0P14696 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:39:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:04:56 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08144; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjs600e1 (sjs600e1.portal.com [10.200.0.110] (may be forged)) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01617; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'Richard Sven Patterson'" , , , Subject: RE: sgroup The future Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:02:26 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well...given that that the VP9000 is not a traditional sampler, I would argue that the VP9000 is a more likely candidate for software plugin alternatives than a normal sampler (typically used as a sound module). Software samplers will continue to grow more popular...absolutely. I think it will be quite some time...if ever...that hardware samplers are completely eliminated. I for one, like the reliability of hardware. I use Mark of the Unicorn software (digital performer) for recording, with plugins, etc. It works pretty darn well I must say. But I also have to say that I'm ready and waiting for the day that somebody comes out with a piece of hardware that can do everything I want/need, rivaling the capabilities of Digital Performer, at a competitive price point. When that day comes...you can bet that I will absolutely ditch the software solution and go for the more reliable hardware solution. The main problem with software solutions such as Gigasampler, Digital Performer, Cubase, Logic, etc.. isn't whether or not they are reliable or not. Sometimes they are perfectly solid. But its the platform they run on that is not reliable...and may never be in our lifetime the way things are going. Unless you are absolutely anal about keeping your computer system 100% clean of anything non-essential the the core studio functionality you need, you will eventually have some kind of system conflict or something that halt your creativity and turn you from a musician into a PC technician in 3 seconds flat. It has happened to me over and over and over again on the PC platform. Not so much so since I made the switch to Digital Performer on the Mac. But its only a matter of time. If there was a hardware box that just ran...every time...no crashes...no bugs, no possibility that I might screw up the OS configuration, etc.. It would just work. With big buttons that you push and operate like a real machine.. I'm a human. I need that organic interaction to feel totally connected to what I'm doing. I know I'm not alone. Look around. In the last year a whole slew of 24 track digital hard disk recorders have hit the market from Tascam, Mackie and others. Why is that? Because people want hardware. What I think is happening is that the "price" of hardware is coming down fast... (hurray) because of the pressure put on my software solutions, and its also forcing them to put more features into the hardware. So I think we're going to see some really sophisticated hardware come out with really low prices. But I seriously doubt that we are ever going to do away entirely with hardware samplers or hardware anything for that matter... Just my 2 cents.. -steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Sven Patterson [mailto:rsp@richardsven.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 4:33 PM > To: shockwavejim@kerb.co.uk; pete@grifgraf.demon.co.uk; > sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup The future > > > > > >I'm not saying that software synths or samplers aren't great- they > >are- particularly if youhave a high spec machine, but hardware > >offers advantages that software never can. Hardware samplers aren't > >going away they're just changing to suit the times/market. If > >Roland do make a new sampler I'd wager it'll be along the lines of > >the VP9000. > > > >jim > > > > > that I agree with, it wouldn't be a traditional sampler. > > rsp > -- > richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com > 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice > 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" > > > Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Aug 29 01:39:30 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193718-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:39:21 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cr966072-a.mtmk1.on.wave.home.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193717-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:39:17 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f7T5dFD14701 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:39:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:07:07 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08203; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjs600e1 (sjs600e1.portal.com [10.200.0.110] (may be forged)) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01627; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'Harold Everton, Jr.'" , Subject: RE: sgroup New Roland Sampler? Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:04:47 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C1300D.BF0D9110" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001f01c1301d$e8b44e40$e572580c@epu1> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C1300D.BF0D9110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not so sure that people are mass-selling their roland samplers. Definitely people are starting to get into Gigasampler. There are some classic sample CDROM's in Roland format that the Gigasampler doesn't do that great yet at converting. From: Harold Everton, Jr. [mailto:evertonrecords@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:03 PM To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup New Roland Sampler? Hey All, I think that if Roland wanted to release a killer sampler, they'd have to use the same open-architecture (per say) technique that they applied to their VS and JV units. For example, they would release a stock sampler with no options. The user could add an effects card (similar to the VS8F2 for the VS1680) if they wanted effects. For Roland to have an edge, they should at least pop for 32MB standard with a possible expansion for 2GB or even 4GB - Then add gigasampler convert capability. One of the reasons so many people popped for the S760 was that it was way ahead of it's time. It's only 9 years later that people started mass-selling their S760s. Most of them were selling them for Gigasamplers. Roland would have to be able to compete to get people to run back. Emu does well because their samplers can convert almost anything. Roland should allow this. Their new sampler would have to read MS-DOS disks. We don't live in a proprietary Commodore, Atari, PC, Mac world anymore like we did when the S760 was released (Damn I wish Commodore could make a comeback). Digital I/O and Mouse capabilities should also be optional. The more options the better. I could really see a sampler like this coming in at $2000 in a year or so. They could even release an S950 that could be half as expandable. The sampler should have VGA or RGB output (remain back compatibility). Did I mention that this sampler should also be 1U rackmountable? Later, Harold ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Sven Patterson < rsp@richardsven.com> To: Harold Everton, Jr. < evertonrecords@worldnet.att.net>; < shockwavejim@kerb.co.uk> Cc: < sgroup@lists.uunet.ca> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: Re: sgroup The future > > > > > >Let's check this out. What would you all expect from Roland if they were to > >put out a new sampler? Let's call it the Roland S960. What would it have to > >have in order for you to buy it? > > > >Later, > >Harold > > > > > > > okay I get to dream on my dream sampler :-) > > 1. 128 voice polyphony, expandable to 256 if you can do it without > much voice slop... > 2. be able to read akai,emu of course roland and ensoniq samples. at > least akai and emu.... > 3. must have a video out port..and be able to connect to a mouse etc. > 4. 24 bit a/d, d/a's. > 5. Mono Legato mode for crying out loud, how can the s-760 NOT have > legato?!! :-) > 6. RAM expandable to about 512MB...use more modern cheaper ram... > 7. be able to at least see up to 80 GB hard drives.. > 8. 8 outputs.. > 9. simpler to use DSP's...in the OS..how hard must it be to do a > simple cut and paste? :-) > > rsp > > -- > richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com > 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice > 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" > > > Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C1300D.BF0D9110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm=20 not so sure that people are mass-selling their roland samplers. = Definitely=20 people are starting to get into Gigasampler. There are some = classic sample=20 CDROM's in Roland format that the Gigasampler doesn't do that great yet = at=20 converting.

From: Harold = Everton, Jr.=20 [mailto:evertonrecords@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August = 28,=20 2001 5:03 PM
To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca
Subject: = sgroup New=20 Roland Sampler?

Hey All,

I think that if = Roland wanted to=20 release a killer sampler, they'd have to
use the same = open-architecture=20 (per say) technique that they applied to
their VS and JV units. For = example, they would release a stock sampler with
no options. The = user could=20 add an effects card (similar to the VS8F2 for the
VS1680) if they = wanted=20 effects. For Roland to have an edge, they should at
least pop for = 32MB=20 standard with a possible expansion for 2GB or even 4GB -
Then add=20 gigasampler convert capability.

One of the reasons so many = people=20 popped for the S760 was that it was way
ahead of it's time. It's = only 9=20 years later that people started mass-selling
their S760s. Most of = them were=20 selling them for Gigasamplers. Roland would
have to be able to = compete to=20 get people to run back. Emu does well because
their samplers can = convert=20 almost anything. Roland should allow this. Their
new sampler would = have to=20 read MS-DOS disks. We don't live in a proprietary
Commodore, Atari, = PC, Mac=20 world anymore like we did when the S760 was
released (Damn I wish = Commodore=20 could make a comeback).

Digital I/O and Mouse capabilities = should also=20 be optional. The more options
the better. I could really see a = sampler like=20 this coming in at $2000 in a
year or so. They could even release an = S950=20 that could be half as
expandable. The sampler should have VGA or = RGB output=20 (remain back
compatibility). Did I mention that this sampler should = also be=20 1U
rackmountable?

Later,
Harold

----- Original = Message=20 -----
From: Richard Sven Patterson <rsp@richardsven.com>
To: = Harold=20 Everton, Jr. <evertonrecords@worldnet.a= tt.net>;
<shockwavejim@kerb.co.uk>Cc:=20 <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Se= nt:=20 Tuesday, August 28, 2001 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: sgroup The=20 future

> >
> >
> >Let's check this = out.=20 What would you all expect from Roland if they were
to
> = >put out a=20 new sampler? Let's call it the Roland S960. What would it = have
to
>=20 >have in order for you to buy it?
> >
> = >Later,
>=20 >Harold
> >
> >
>
>
> okay I = get to=20 dream on my dream sampler :-)
>
> 1. 128 voice polyphony,=20 expandable to 256 if you can do it without
> much voice = slop...
>=20 2. be able to read akai,emu of course roland and ensoniq samples. = at
>=20 least akai and emu....
> 3. must have a video out port..and be = able to=20 connect to a mouse etc.
> 4. 24 bit a/d, d/a's.
> 5. Mono = Legato=20 mode for crying out loud, how can the s-760 NOT have
> legato?!! = :-)
> 6. RAM expandable to about 512MB...use more modern cheaper = ram...
> 7. be able to at least see up to 80 GB hard = drives..
> 8.=20 8 outputs..
> 9. simpler to use DSP's...in the OS..how hard must = it be=20 to do a
> simple cut and paste? :-)
>
> = rsp
>
>=20 --
> richard sven=20 = patterson          &nbs= p;       =20 rsp@richardsven.com
> = = 876-924-2898          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;    =20 "to fight for truth, justice
> 876-925-1247=20 = (fax)           &n= bsp;          =20 and the analytical way"
>
>
> Please note NEW EMAIL = ADDRESS:=20 rsp@richardsven.com

------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C1300D.BF0D9110-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Aug 29 01:42:15 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:42:07 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (cr966072-a.mtmk1.on.wave.home.com [24.101.230.250]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:42:01 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f7T5fwl14719 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:41:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:19:16 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08607; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjs600e1 (sjs600e1.portal.com [10.200.0.110] (may be forged)) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01646; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'Richard Sven Patterson'" , , Subject: RE: sgroup The future Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:16:52 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Oh and by the way, did you guys hear the recent news that Tascam bought Nemesys (the company that makes Gigastudio)?? Hmm.... > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Sven Patterson [mailto:rsp@richardsven.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 2:53 PM > To: pete@grifgraf.demon.co.uk; sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup The future > > > At 5:43 pm -0400 28/8/2001, Pete wrote: > >Hey, S-Group, > > > >Harold asked the other day about new Roland samplers... my > question is, > >what price the future of any hardware samplers now that you can buy > >soft-sampler plug-ins, and now that their host computers are > getting to > >be powerful enough to do them justice? > > > >Pete > > > > and its precisely the above, why I doubt roland will make another > hardware sampler any time soon if ever > > rsp > -- > richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com > 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice > 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" > > > Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Aug 29 02:27:18 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:27:11 -0400 Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:27:07 -0400 Received: from [207.214.191.233] (ppp-207-214-191-233.anhm01.pacbell.net [207.214.191.233]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7T6R5Z165474; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:27:05 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 02:27:01 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Cannot get pass a certain screen... From: Daniel Walters To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <117.3d8a17a.28bdd69d@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3081886021_88594_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3081886021_88594_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dave, Press and hold the MODE button while powering up, this will get you to the setup menu, change 3. Controller to "Panel+LCD", press EXIT to continue booting the OS. Good luck, Dan From: DAJA300@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:24:45 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Cannot get pass a certain screen... I get this screen... Controller = Mouse + CRT Please see your CRT After booting my S760 for the first time. Sounds like the system is looking for a mouse and monitor? How can I get into the sampler? I do not have the manual yet. Thanks again Dave --MS_Mac_OE_3081886021_88594_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup Cannot get pass a certain screen... Dave,

Press and hold the MODE button while powering up, this will get you to the = setup menu, change 3. Controller to "Panel+LCD", press EXIT to con= tinue booting the OS.

Good luck,

Dan

From: DAJA300@aol.com
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:24:45 -0400
To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Subject: sgroup Cannot get pass a certain screen...

I get this screen...

Controller =3D Mouse + CRT
Please see your CRT

After booting my S760 for the first time. Sounds like the system is looking=
for a mouse and monitor?

How can I get into the sampler? I do not have the manual yet.

Thanks again
Dave

--MS_Mac_OE_3081886021_88594_MIME_Part-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Aug 29 09:17:38 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:17:32 -0400 Received: from mento.n5.com.jm ([196.32.0.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:17:22 -0400 Received: from kin0103.n5.com.jm (kin0103.n5.com.jm [196.32.6.13]) by mento.n5.com.jm (NTMail 5.06.0014/NU4618.00.86209735) with ESMTP id cfwhjbaa for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 07:57:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <117.3d8a17a.28bdd69d@aol.com> References: <117.3d8a17a.28bdd69d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:18:40 -0400 To: DAJA300@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Cannot get pass a certain screen... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 1:24 am -0400 29/8/2001, DAJA300@aol.com wrote: >I get this screen... > >Controller = Mouse + CRT >Please see your CRT > >After booting my S760 for the first time. Sounds like the system is looking >for a mouse and monitor? > >How can I get into the sampler? I do not have the manual yet. > >Thanks again >Dave ah hah, you odn't have a mouse or CRT and it is looking for it. you need to press and hold the mode button and turn on the unit. it will bring up a setup menu. scroll down to controller...change it to Panel and LCD, then press Exit.... rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Aug 29 14:28:31 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:28:23 -0400 Received: from goku.engr.colostate.edu ([129.82.224.16]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:28:17 -0400 Received: from mail.engr.colostate.edu ([129.82.224.111]) by goku.engr.colostate.edu (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id f7TISKXk006382; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:28:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3B8D342C.E627FF73@mail.engr.colostate.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:27:56 -0400 From: mark X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca To: Subject: sgroup DJ70 for sale References: <94.190f70a4.28bd4393@aol.com> <94.190f70a4.28bd4393@aol.com> <23223473402600@babcom.kerb.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, Just curious if anyone out there was interested in a roland DJ-70 sampling keyboard. It has the same user setup as the S700 series and same sampling quality; yet it is limited in memory. Still, it would be a fun addition to a roland setup and is nice as a controller too (3 octaves, scratch wheel, filters, ect). Anyhow, it's in mint condition, comes with a bunch of disks, and I'll let it go for $250 to the list. Let me know if you are interested, or have a phrase sampler to trade. thanks much, happy sampling to all. mark - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Aug 29 16:41:17 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:41:09 -0400 Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.106]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:40:58 -0400 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id 6.f6.ec2d2ca (4445) for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:40:50 -0400 (EDT) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:40:50 -0400 Subject: sgroup S760 manual To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f6.ec2d2ca.28bead52_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_f6.ec2d2ca.28bead52_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone here tell me if the Manual for the S760 is worth buying seeing that Roland manuals [at least the older ones] are not that well written? Also I am looking for a sound library for it. Thanks Dave --part1_f6.ec2d2ca.28bead52_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone here tell me if the Manual for the S760 is worth buying seeing
that Roland manuals [at least the older ones] are not that well written?

Also I am looking for a sound library for it.

Thanks
Dave --part1_f6.ec2d2ca.28bead52_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Aug 29 17:49:38 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:49:32 -0400 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27906>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:49:25 -0400 Received: from smui00.slb.mindspring.net (smui00.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.20]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA32104 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:49:17 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui00.slb.mindspring.net id RAA0000030118; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 17:49:16 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S760 manual Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.1.243 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I vote yes. It does show you lots of features you may not know about and it digs fairly deep into all areas of the sampler. I'd say it's worth the $30 from Roland. Jesse DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone here tell me if the Manual for the S760 is worth buying - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Aug 30 10:30:52 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-16882>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:30:42 -0400 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.227]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-16882>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:30:36 -0400 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id HAA10388; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.187) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma010386; Thu, 30 Aug 01 07:38:12 -0700 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f7UEUES27350 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:30:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from asylum.carrot.com.au ([61.8.3.52]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-27905>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 04:32:16 -0400 Received: from parrot.cairead.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asylum.carrot.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06239 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:32:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01120 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:32:07 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id JAA16915 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 09:32:06 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200108290832.JAA16915@uv.cairead.com> Subject: sgroup rsp's sampler To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 04:32:06 -0400 From: nic@cairead.com (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j}; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:34:19 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f237.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.237]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-16882>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:34:09 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:34:08 -0700 Received: from 195.100.79.128 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:34:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.100.79.128] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup rsp's sampler Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:34:07 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2001 15:34:08.0135 (UTC) FILETIME=[35763170:01C13169] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Nic, Is the "Translator" the Chickensys product? Do you think it works well (i.e does the conversion between format work without loss, etc). I have read about it somewhere and it seems to be a very interesting product. Regards Daniel > > I just deleted Richard's orginal email about his wish sampler so I'm >going > from memory here, but his wishlist sampler could be built as follows, > > 1RU industrial chassis PC (40gb udma disk, 512Mb RAM, 933Mhz CPU, cd, >midi) > windows 98SE o/s pared down and dedicated to... > gigastudio > appropriate soundcard (I have mixtreme as it adds non-native plugins >too) > > In fact... this is what I have done. Add translator to the mix and I >have > my roland libraries in both formats and use both samplers side by side. > > The whole shebang cost me about $1700-2000 (US) to build (from memory), > which is pretty comparable to the latest hardware samplers, no? > > Maybe I should go into business building these... ;-) > > (Seriously, if anyone is interested, let me know) > > Regards, > Nic. > >-- > Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@cairead.com, voice/fax: +1 650 618 1713 > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Aug 30 16:05:06 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-16882>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:04:58 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (bluenat.net.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.30.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-16882>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:04:52 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f7UK4fi05574 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:04:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from asylum.carrot.com.au ([61.8.3.52]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-16883>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:12:04 -0400 Received: from parrot.cairead.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asylum.carrot.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA07282 for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:11:54 +1000 (EST) Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA01572; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:10:36 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id UAA25410; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:10:34 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <200108301910.UAA25410@uv.cairead.com> Subject: Re: sgroup rsp's sampler In-Reply-To: from Daniel Lehtihet at "Aug 30, 2001 11:34:07 am" To: Daniel Lehtihet Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:10:34 -0400 CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: nic@cairead.com (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j} Is the "Translator" the Chickensys product? Do you think it works well (i.e => does the conversion between format work without loss, etc). I have read => about it somewhere and it seems to be a very interesting product. Yes, that is the one. I really think these guys do a fantastic job in the way they run their product: You buy the product once and are entitled to all improvements as they get done - they send regular emails with new releases and translations. If you find a problem, you can send them your source files and they make it work... The Roland/Giga translations seem pretty stable now - Admittedly some translations I attempted in the early days did not work as well as I had hoped, but they all seem to be fine for what I have been doing now. The point is that this product is living and well worth the entrance fee given the support available. On top of that, about a month ago I received an official retail box of the product unexpectedly, having bought my copy long before they were shipping retail boxes. What I thought was a really great touch was that the manual contained my own personal details pre-printed in it... ;-) No, I don't have any interest in them other than being a very satisfied customer...and am rambling on a bit. Nic. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Aug 30 17:34:27 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-16883>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:34:22 -0400 Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.42]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-16883>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:34:15 -0400 Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id 6.16a.12378f (3312) for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:34:06 -0400 (EDT) From: DAJA300@aol.com Message-ID: <16a.12378f.28c00b4e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:34:06 -0400 Subject: sgroup s760 with an Atari Monitor... To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_16a.12378f.28c00b4e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_16a.12378f.28c00b4e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is my next question... I am trying to hook up my s760 Roland Sampler to the Atari Color Monitor. I've heard that both the JVC and Goldstar types will work. I went to a puter shop and the guy sold me an RGB type cable for $2.00 which has three rca, yellow red and white tips on the other end. I also have a couple of Atari monitor adapters to which I can connect my Atari color monitor in the same way you connect it up to the back of the Atari. In other words, I have all the cables I need to make this happen but what I need to know is where I can find a schematic diagram of some sort or someone that already knows how to solder these wires to make them work. Your help will very much be appreciated. Thanks Dave H. --part1_16a.12378f.28c00b4e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is my next question...

I am trying to hook up my s760 Roland Sampler to the Atari Color Monitor.
I've heard that both the JVC and Goldstar types will work.

I went to a puter shop and the guy sold me an RGB type cable for $2.00 which
has three rca, yellow red and white tips on the other end. I also have a
couple of Atari monitor adapters to which I can connect my Atari color
monitor in the same way you connect it up to the back of the Atari.

In other words, I have all the cables I need to make this happen but what I
need to know is where I can find a schematic diagram of some sort or someone
that already knows how to solder these wires to make them work.

Your help will very much be appreciated.

Thanks
Dave H.
--part1_16a.12378f.28c00b4e_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Aug 30 23:11:04 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-16883>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 23:10:58 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-16883>; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 23:10:47 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21881; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjs600e1 (sjs600e1.portal.com [10.200.0.246] (may be forged)) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA09268; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: , "Daniel Lehtihet" Cc: Subject: RE: sgroup rsp's sampler Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 23:07:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200108301910.UAA25410@uv.cairead.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I am definitely planning on purchasing Chickensys translator myself at some point. > -----Original Message----- > From: nic@cairead.com [mailto:nic@cairead.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:11 PM > To: Daniel Lehtihet > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup rsp's sampler > > > to quote Daniel Lehtihet: > => Is the "Translator" the Chickensys product? Do you think > it works well (i.e > => does the conversion between format work without loss, > etc). I have read > => about it somewhere and it seems to be a very interesting product. > > Yes, that is the one. I really think these guys do a > fantastic job in the > way they run their product: > > You buy the product once and are entitled to all > improvements as they > get done - they send regular emails with new releases and > translations. > > If you find a problem, you can send them your source files > and they make > it work... The Roland/Giga translations seem pretty stable now - > Admittedly some translations I attempted in the early days > did not work > as well as I had hoped, but they all seem to be fine for what I have > been doing now. The point is that this product is living > and well worth the > entrance fee given the support available. > > On top of that, about a month ago I received an official > retail box of the > product unexpectedly, having bought my copy long before > they were shipping > retail boxes. What I thought was a really great touch was > that the manual > contained my own personal details pre-printed in it... ;-) > > No, I don't have any interest in them other than being a > very satisfied > customer...and am rambling on a bit. > > Nic. > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Aug 31 09:15:46 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-28469>; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:15:39 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-28469>; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:15:28 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.97.82]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010831131522.UXIX8481.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:15:22 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c1321e$852cd4c0$5261580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup FOR SALE!!! Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:11:58 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C131FC.FCF63CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C131FC.FCF63CC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01C131FC.FCF63CC0" ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C131FC.FCF63CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable $125 OBO for the following package.=20 (1) Roland LCDP02 Drums & Cymbals - The Drum & Cymabl collection covers = all types of drum sets from Rock to Hip-Hop. Has lots of acoustics and = electronics as well! All of Roland's JV/XP/XV/R/TD modules are derived = from the CD-ROM with over 600 sounds. 250 MB worth of sounds=20 (2) Gigapack 1 & 2 - 2 CD-ROM set with over 1500 sounds. All of these = sounds are GREAT. It covers all types of sounds. If you just got a = sampler, this would keep you busy for a long time. This is an all out = sound set. The acoustic guitars, choirs, etc. and pianos are = spectacular. Every kind if synth and acoustic instrument is represented. = There are also vocal phrases and many, many sound effects. (3) Q-Up Artist - 1 CD ROM. It's for Akai, but could be read by any = sampler (like the Roland S760) which could read Akai CD Roms. This has a = lot of real life drum sounds, dance sounds and other miscellanous sounds = such as Sound FX and techno sounds.=20 Give it a shot. $125 OBO is the asking price for this CD ROM set with = near 1.5GB of sounds all together. I would be willing to do this, or = trade for the Ilio/Sonic Reality, "INTERACTIVE DRUM KITS" in Roland S700 = format. Thanks The Infamous Epu.=20 ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C131FC.FCF63CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

$125 OBO for the following package.=20

(1) Roland LCDP02 Drums & Cymbals - The Drum & Cymabl = collection=20 covers all types of drum sets from Rock to Hip-Hop. Has lots of = acoustics and=20 electronics as well! All of Roland's JV/XP/XV/R/TD modules are derived = from the=20 CD-ROM with over 600 sounds. 250 MB worth of sounds=20

(2) Gigapack 1 & 2 - 2 CD-ROM set with over 1500 sounds. All of = these=20 sounds are GREAT. It covers all types of sounds. If you just got a = sampler, this=20 would keep you busy for a long time. This is an all out sound set. The = acoustic=20 guitars, choirs, etc. and pianos are spectacular. Every kind if synth = and=20 acoustic instrument is represented. There are also vocal phrases and = many, many=20 sound effects.

(3) Q-Up Artist - 1 CD ROM. It's for Akai, but could be read by any = sampler=20 (like the Roland S760) which could read Akai CD Roms. This has a lot of = real=20 life drum sounds, dance sounds and other miscellanous sounds such as = Sound FX=20 and techno sounds.=20

Give it a shot. $125 OBO is the asking price for this CD ROM set with = near=20 1.5GB of sounds all together. I would be willing to do this, or trade = for the=20 Ilio/Sonic Reality, "INTERACTIVE DRUM KITS" in Roland S700 format. = Thanks

The Infamous Epu.

<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C131FC.FCF63CC0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C131FC.FCF63CC0 Content-Type: image/gif; name="biggrin.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Location: http://www.vsplanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif R0lGODlhFAAUALMPAP//lP//cf//Sf//JvzpB+bVDNjIBNXQSsu7AbmrBJOIB3NsHGBZCU1ICRAQ A8DAwCH5BAEAAA8ALAAAAAAUABQAAATD8Mm5mruurcmpWwcQjMnydRLDBEArjsLRNJ3GurCgHyrV 3C+dbkAsaCSOwyiQUAiIA4NiQCgkaIuFMGAhEgYWRFVWSQgFBQNhvRYX3grL4Qmlstlv6+WbcNz/ RgwGCBcFVQ4Jf2wGDgoGjA4IbyaJf4QNCAZ9DQpvBiYODFkMFhkICHELDGmPVgpZjQikCQhHnI+4 eQqhH1IOEmWDp7ioDAoIVxsSDQy0p8/PCVc0HDOO0M9x1B0VnLTS2soowKUXRx0RADs= ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C131FC.FCF63CC0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Aug 31 10:00:26 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193717-28468>; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:00:19 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.49]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193716-28468>; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:00:12 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.96.140]) by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010831140007.RLPQ21828.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@epu1>; Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:00:07 +0000 Message-ID: <001501c13224$c2468ee0$8c60580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: "Richard Sven Patterson" Cc: References: <000b01c1321e$852cd4c0$5261580c@epu1> Subject: Re: sgroup FOR SALE!!! Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:56:38 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C13203.3A2860E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C13203.3A2860E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0012_01C13203.3A2860E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0012_01C13203.3A2860E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup FOR SALE!!!Hey Richard, Thanks. Are you serious? So I can only buy Sonic Reality's INTERACTIVE = DRUM KITS brand new? I love my sampler, but a lot of these sample = companies' policies are a bit over protective. I can understand = pre-recorded songs, but samples that are made for use by the consumer = shouldn't fall under these guidelines. Oh well, this will make me = rethink my purchase. Thanks, Harold ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sven Patterson=20 To: Harold Everton, Jr.=20 Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:26 AM Subject: Re: sgroup FOR SALE!!! HI Harold, just for the record to let you know. Ilio's licensing prohibits, reselling. rsp Give it a shot. $125 OBO is the asking price for this CD ROM set = with near 1.5GB of sounds all together. I would be willing to do this, = or trade for the Ilio/Sonic Reality, "INTERACTIVE DRUM KITS" in Roland = S700 format. Thanks The Infamous Epu. ------=_NextPart_001_0012_01C13203.3A2860E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: sgroup FOR SALE!!!

Hey Richard,

Thanks. Are you serious? So I can only = buy Sonic=20 Reality's INTERACTIVE DRUM KITS brand new? I love my sampler, but a lot = of these=20 sample companies' policies are a bit over protective. I can understand=20 pre-recorded songs, but samples that are made for use by the consumer = shouldn't=20 fall under these guidelines. Oh well, this will make me rethink my=20 purchase.

Thanks,

Harold

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Richard Sven=20 Patterson

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