From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 1 19:15:17 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-24224>; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:15:07 -0400 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com [207.46.181.19]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-24224>; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:15:01 -0400 Received: from monel - 63.20.28.88 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 16:14:14 -0700 Message-ID: <003d01c0146b$26ddcc20$581c143f@monel> From: "claybarker" To: Subject: sgroup S-50 Problem Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:19:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C01449.9E8D4380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C01449.9E8D4380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Group. My S-50 will not recognize my disks for some reason( I am getting = "PLEASE INSERT S-50 DISK")...I think it may be a dirty floppy drive.Is = there a way to run a diagnostic on the system- what I mean is, sometimes = manufactures build in a way that if you hold certain buttons down when = you turn it on, it clears the memory. Just curious..this happened once = before, and I got some compressed air and blew it into the drive, and it = worked the next day... Thanks and have a good holiday weekend! clay. ..same as it ever was- David Byrne ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C01449.9E8D4380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Group.
My S-50 will not recognize my disks for = some=20 reason( I am getting "PLEASE INSERT S-50 DISK")...I think it may be a = dirty=20 floppy drive.Is there a way to run a diagnostic on the system- what I = mean is,=20 sometimes manufactures build in a way that if you hold certain buttons = down when=20 you turn it on, it clears the memory. Just curious..this happened once = before,=20 and I got some compressed air and blew it into the drive, and it worked = the next=20 day...
Thanks and have a good holiday=20 weekend!
clay.
 
..same as it ever was- David=20 Byrne
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C01449.9E8D4380-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 2 04:18:56 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-27817>; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 04:18:47 -0400 Received: from magnolia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-rt-11.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.62]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-27817>; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 04:18:36 -0400 Received: from villosa.wanadoo.fr (193.252.19.122) by magnolia.wanadoo.fr; 2 Sep 2000 10:09:46 +0200 Received: from [193.250.103.105] (193.250.103.105) by villosa.wanadoo.fr; 2 Sep 2000 10:09:38 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 04:19:26 -0400 Subject: sgroup S550 SCSI Kit From: steph To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003d01c0146b$26ddcc20$581c143f@monel> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3050734767_63431_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > CE MESSAGE EST AU FORMAT MIME. Comme votre lecteur de courrier ne comprend pas ce format, il se peut que tout ou partie de ce message soit illisible. --MS_Mac_OE_3050734767_63431_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody, One of my friend has an S550 without SCSI. Does someone know where to find rhe SCSI kit for his sampler ? Thanks for any help Steph De=A0: "claybarker" Date=A0: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:19:59 -0400 =C0=A0: Objet=A0: sgroup S-50 Problem Hi Group. My S-50 will not recognize my disks for some reason( I am getting "PLEASE INSERT S-50 DISK")...I think it may be a dirty floppy drive.Is there a way to run a diagnostic on the system- what I mean is, sometimes manufactures build in a way that if you hold certain buttons down when you turn it on, i= t clears the memory. Just curious..this happened once before, and I got some compressed air and blew it into the drive, and it worked the next day... Thanks and have a good holiday weekend! clay. =20 ..same as it ever was- David Byrne --MS_Mac_OE_3050734767_63431_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable S550 SCSI Kit Hi everybody,
One of my friend has an S550 without SCSI. Does someone know where to find = rhe SCSI kit for his sampler ?
Thanks for any help
Steph

De=A0: "claybarker" <claybarker@email.msn.com>
Date=A0: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 19:19:59 -0400
=C0=A0: <sgroup@lists.uunet.ca>
Objet=A0: sgroup S-50 Problem


Hi Group.
My S-50 will not recognize my disks for some reason( I am getting "PLE= ASE INSERT S-50 DISK")...I think it may be a dirty floppy drive.Is ther= e a way to run a diagnostic on the system- what I mean is, sometimes manufac= tures build in a way that if you hold certain buttons down when you turn it = on, it clears the memory. Just curious..this happened once before, and I got= some compressed air and blew it into the drive, and it worked the next day.= ..
Thanks and have a good holiday weekend!
clay.

..same as it ever was- David Byrne


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From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 2 17:13:51 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-27818>; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 17:13:43 -0400 Received: from mserv1b.vianw.co.uk ([195.102.240.137]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-27817>; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 17:13:38 -0400 Received: from p8.nas4.is3.u-net.net ([195.102.197.136] helo=babcom.u-net.com) by mserv1b.vianw.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 13VKbR-0003Q9-00; Sat, 2 Sep 2000 22:13:30 +0100 Message-ID: <39B0FF03.3E5AE397@babcom.u-net.com> Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 09:22:11 -0400 From: Steven Cook Reply-To: steve@babcom.u-net.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ajporter@home.com CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:32:20 -0400 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, Have you tried: http://www.lilchips.com/roland/library/rsb-roland/rsb50.asp If this is is no help I could upload them to my website. Steve Cook. http://www.babcom.u-net.com/csound.html > ajporter wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am looking for some of the Roland sound bank disks that are corrupt > on the web site. Specifically 502 #1 (Mallets), 502 #10 (Electric > Guitar #1), 504 #6 (Trumpet & Fr. Horn), 505 #5 (Latin percussion), > 505 # 8 (Assorted Snares), 502 #8 (FM Filtered), 5502 #10 (Stereo Drum > Kit #2), & 5503 #3 (Rock Composer's Tool). > > I have been round and round with Roland trying to find a source for > these disks, as well as searching the internet for many, many days. I > do have some of the other disks that are corrupt on the web site and > would gladly swap files with you, or anyone you know that might have > these disks. I am trying to specifically get the solo French Horn on > 504 #6 for a song I am recording for my wife for her birthday next > month. > > Any help you can give on this would be greatly appreciated! > > > > thanx, > > A.J. Porter > > ajporter@home.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 4 02:30:37 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-742>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 02:30:29 -0400 Received: from cadsys.com.pl (cadsys2.cadsys.com.pl [212.160.167.66]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-742>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 02:30:15 -0400 Received: from wojtek (pc100.wroclaw.sdi.tpnet.pl [213.76.198.100]) by cadsys.com.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA23633 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 08:29:35 +0200 (EEST) Message-ID: <004e01c01639$387b5e50$0400a8c0@wojtek> From: "Wojciech Jakobczyk" To: Subject: sgroup w30 broken Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 02:27:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi, yesterday i've discovered my w30 has crashed. it seems that floppy drive doesn't work. while loading system disk it prints message "disk load error - 10". of course the disk is ok. so, my question is: does anyone know what's the type of drive and what are possibilities of getting working one nowadays? i've tried to open the unit and look inside but i have problems with that. should i open the top part of case or remove the bottom side? it doesn't seem to move in either way... thanks for any help, wojtek - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 4 11:51:02 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-743>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:50:53 -0400 Received: from tigre.ucb.br ([200.236.72.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-743>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:50:49 -0400 Received: from poli06 (country.ucb.br [200.236.72.12]) by tigre.ucb.br (8.11.0/8.11.0-HS1) with ESMTP id e84Fnu717298; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:49:57 -0200 Message-ID: <000e01c01688$7e760140$087d000a@ucb.br> Reply-To: "Ls2" From: "Ls2" To: "steph" , References: Subject: sgroup s550 CD5 system Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 11:54:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk S550 SCSI KitIm trying to upgrade my s550 from the old OS to cd5 system in order to use the Utility disk newer version. But I cant find any info on how to do it. I ve just put the CD5 system disk into the floppy and the sampler doesnt stop rebooting. Can anyone help me? ___________________________ http://pagina.de/tuntistun - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 4 12:21:17 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193679-742>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:21:07 -0400 Received: from mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com [212.120.66.198]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193678-742>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:21:01 -0400 Received: from [212.120.82.160] by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000904162059.DLRZ2088.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@[212.120.82.160]> for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 18:20:59 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swank.inc@mail Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:20:57 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: "Ls2" (by way of Maurits Jonkergouw) Subject: sgroup s550 CD5 system Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk S550 SCSI KitIm trying to upgrade my s550 from the old OS to cd5 system in order to use the Utility disk newer version. But I cant find any info on how to do it. I ve just put the CD5 system disk into the floppy and the sampler doesnt stop rebooting. Can anyone help me? Did you correctly connect the SCSI card in the sampler? Perhaps that's why the OS doesn't recognize it. Also try to create (or the one wich comes w/ the card) a new floppy from the image file, perhaps this one is corrupt. Goodluck. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 4 12:34:24 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-742>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:34:15 -0400 Received: from tigre.ucb.br ([200.236.72.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-742>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:34:05 -0400 Received: from poli06 (country.ucb.br [200.236.72.12]) by tigre.ucb.br (8.11.0/8.11.0-HS1) with ESMTP id e84GXT717368 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 14:33:29 -0200 Message-ID: <003701c0168e$92917ff0$087d000a@ucb.br> Reply-To: "Ls2" From: "Ls2" To: References: <000e01c01688$7e760140$087d000a@ucb.br> Subject: sgroup s550 CD5 system Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:38:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Im trying to upgrade my s550 from the old OS to cd5 system in order to use the Utility disk newer version. But I cant find any info on how to do it. I ve just put the CD5 system disk into the floppy and the sampler doesnt stop rebooting. Can anyone help me?___________________________ http://pagina.de/tuntistun - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 4 19:30:03 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-743>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:29:54 -0400 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-743>; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:29:48 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive23i.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.8.114]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10900; Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39B431C9.68898028@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:35:37 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ajporter@home.com CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:32:20 -0400 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Have you seen this link? It's an alternate site for the Roland sounds libraries. It has the S-50 and the S-550 libraries: http://www.lilchips.com/roland/libraries.asp - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 7 17:00:11 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-25549>; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:00:02 -0400 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com [207.46.181.19]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-25550>; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 16:59:56 -0400 Received: from monel - 63.42.30.113 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:59:09 -0700 Message-ID: <009001c0190f$4d8a7fa0$711e2a3f@monel> From: "claybarker" To: Subject: sgroup S-50 repair manual Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 17:05:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01C018ED.C4DE6980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C018ED.C4DE6980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have one....or any idea where i can get one? I can't get my = floppy to read my discs, and I am wondering do I have to go get another = one or what....any help will be greatly appreciated. clay ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C018ED.C4DE6980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone have one....or any idea = where i can get=20 one? I can't get my floppy to read my discs, and I am wondering do I = have to go=20 get another one or what....any help will be greatly = appreciated.
 
 
clay
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From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 8 03:31:08 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-15782>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 03:30:59 -0400 Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-15782>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 03:30:56 -0400 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.1-AX An9h) with ESMTP; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:30:43 +0200 Received: by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 09:30:43 +0200 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6927254@hati.kapsch.co.at> From: Ullrich Peter To: 'claybarker' , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: AW: sgroup S-50 repair manual Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 03:30:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hallo Clay! >Does anyone have one....or any idea where i can get one? I can't get my floppy to read >my discs, and I am wondering do I have to go get another one or what....any help will >be greatly appreciated. You can find the S50 schematics here: http://rrzs42.uni-regensburg.de/~hep09515/keyboards/s-50/Schematics/index.html Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / ECCN Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 8 03:52:58 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-15782>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 03:52:51 -0400 Received: from mail.wtjam.net ([208.238.46.142]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-15782>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 03:52:45 -0400 Received: from [208.238.46.200] [208.238.46.200] by mail.wtjam.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.00) id AB0E5C3E031A; Fri, 08 Sep 2000 02:45:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp@mail.wtjam.net Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 03:54:12 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: sgroup xv-5080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi has anyone gotten a hold of this one yet? I am most curious about its ability to load s-760 samples.... how long does it take to do the convert load? how faithful are the sounds? what is the largest Hard drive that it can use? (eg. the s-760 can only use 650MB, it ignores the rest on larger HD's) thanks, it is the convert load aspect of it that I am most interested.... also does it have a) listen delete like the s-760 b) the ability to save a macro of samples used for each song like the s-760 does ? rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@wtjam.net 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@wtjam.net - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 8 10:34:11 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-15783>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:34:03 -0400 Received: from bluebird.introweb.nl ([195.86.14.74]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-15783>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:33:57 -0400 Received: from pcrobert (ip153-93.introweb.nl [195.86.153.93]) by bluebird.introweb.nl (8.9.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA01701 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 16:30:08 +0200 (CEST) From: "Robert olde Damink" To: Subject: RE: sgroup xv-5080 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:34:06 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Most recent (practical) info on the XV-5080 can be found at http://www.5080land.com There is an on going discussion (see the 'forum' part) on features like these. Robert olde Damink Sr. Software Designer oldamink@introweb.nl -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]Namens Richard Sven Patterson Verzonden: vrijdag 8 september 2000 9:54 Aan: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Onderwerp: sgroup xv-5080 hi has anyone gotten a hold of this one yet? I am most curious about its ability to load s-760 samples.... how long does it take to do the convert load? how faithful are the sounds? what is the largest Hard drive that it can use? (eg. the s-760 can only use 650MB, it ignores the rest on larger HD's) thanks, it is the convert load aspect of it that I am most interested.... also does it have a) listen delete like the s-760 b) the ability to save a macro of samples used for each song like the s-760 does ? rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@wtjam.net 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@wtjam.net - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 8 15:47:19 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-15783>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:47:13 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-15783>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:47:02 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02078; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjspc (lg1s8p12.dashmail.net [216.36.20.96]) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14437; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 12:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'Robert olde Damink'" , Subject: RE: sgroup xv-5080 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 15:46:49 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk How about this...cant he XV convert load S-550 CDROM's???? -steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert olde Damink [mailto:oldamink@introweb.nl] > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:34 AM > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: RE: sgroup xv-5080 > > > > Most recent (practical) info on the XV-5080 can be found at > http://www.5080land.com > There is an on going discussion (see the 'forum' part) on > features like these. > > Robert olde Damink > Sr. Software Designer > oldamink@introweb.nl > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > [mailto:owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca]Namens Richard Sven Patterson > Verzonden: vrijdag 8 september 2000 9:54 > Aan: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Onderwerp: sgroup xv-5080 > > > hi has anyone gotten a hold of this one yet? > I am most curious about its ability to load s-760 samples.... > > how long does it take to do the convert load? > how faithful are the sounds? > what is the largest Hard drive that it can use? (eg. the s-760 can > only use 650MB, it ignores the rest on larger HD's) > > thanks, > > it is the convert load aspect of it that I am most interested.... > > also does it have a) listen delete like the s-760 > b) the ability to save a macro of samples used for each song like the > s-760 does ? > > rsp > -- > richard sven patterson rsp@wtjam.net > 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice > 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" > hounDog music > > Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@wtjam.net > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 8 17:20:51 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-15782>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:20:41 -0400 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com [207.46.181.26]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-15783>; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:20:38 -0400 Received: from monel - 63.20.63.175 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Sep 2000 14:19:38 -0700 Message-ID: <004c01c019db$647b2c60$af3f143f@monel> From: "claybarker" To: "Ullrich Peter" Cc: References: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6927254@hati.kapsch.co.at> Subject: Re: sgroup S-50 repair manual Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 17:25:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks! I hope I can figure out what's going on! Any ideas why it won't read my discs? clay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "'claybarker'" ; Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 3:30 AM Subject: AW: sgroup S-50 repair manual > Hallo Clay! > > >Does anyone have one....or any idea where i can get one? I can't get my floppy to read > >my discs, and I am wondering do I have to go get another one or what....any help will > >be greatly appreciated. > > You can find the S50 schematics here: > > http://rrzs42.uni-regensburg.de/~hep09515/keyboards/s-50/Schematics/index.ht ml > > Ciao > Peter > > \|/ > (o o) > --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ > Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net > Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ > Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician > .oooO KAPSCH AG / ECCN Vienna / Austria > ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology > ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- > \_) ) / > (_/ > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 13 23:34:55 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-7028>; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:34:48 -0400 Received: from gc7.generalconcepts.com (24.65.54.138.on.wave.home.com [24.65.54.138]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-7028>; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:34:42 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc7.generalconcepts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA96843 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:34:40 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:34:40 -0400 From: John Sellens Message-Id: <200009140334.XAA96843@gc7.generalconcepts.com> To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: CD-ROMs of the sgroup archive Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk After too much hardware pain (bah humbug Intel-based hardware), I can now reliably generate CD-ROMs of the sgroup archive. If you would like a copy of the sgroup archive on CD-ROM, please see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/cdrom.html which contains (hopefully) all the information you'll need. Cheers! John jsellens@generalconcepts.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 17 07:35:53 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-13574>; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:35:44 -0400 Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-13574>; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:35:34 -0400 Received: from JLMjr@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.15.) id 6.ad.a80d12 (4575) for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:35:26 -0400 (EDT) From: JLMjr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 07:35:25 -0400 Subject: sgroup WAV to S-550 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Okay people, I'm sorry to post this, but I need a quick way to convert or load wav sounds from my computer to my S-550. I saw a conversation on this recently, but I really didn't pay attention because it didn't apply to me at that time. What was the conclusion? What is the easiest way to transfer sounds? I use a Mac primarily, but I do have a Windows notebook. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 17 08:24:01 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-13573>; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:23:59 -0400 Received: from mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com [212.120.66.198]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-13573>; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:23:49 -0400 Received: from [212.120.82.160] by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000917122334.GOEH3729.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@[212.120.82.160]> for ; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 14:23:34 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swank.inc@mail Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:23:32 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: JLMjr@aol.com (by way of Maurits Jonkergouw) Subject: sgroup WAV to S-550 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1242929082==_ma============" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --============_-1242929082==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Okay people, I'm sorry to post this, but I need a quick way to convert or load wav sounds from my computer to my S-550. I saw a conversation on this recently, but I really didn't pay attention because it didn't apply to me at that time. What was the conclusion? What is the easiest way to transfer sounds? I use a Mac primarily, but I do have a Windows notebook. D-SoundPro http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sdaino --============_-1242929082==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" sgroup WAV to S-550
Okay people,

I'm sorry to post this, but I need a quick way to convert or load wav sounds
from my computer to my S-550. I saw a conversation on this recently, but I
really didn't pay attention because it didn't apply to me at that time.

What was the conclusion? What is the easiest way to transfer sounds? I use a
Mac primarily, but I do have a Windows notebook.

D-SoundPro
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sdaino
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From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 17 22:17:13 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-13573>; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:17:03 -0400 Received: from netgate.co.nz ([202.27.201.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-13574>; Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:17:00 -0400 Received: from [202.27.201.24] (24.netgate.co.nz [202.27.201.24]) by netgate.co.nz (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA05929 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:17:36 +1200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: craigus@netgate.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:17:34 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Craig Harris Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dsound pro is briliant for this - when I used an s50, I'd join the samples together with soundeffects.092 and take note of where they joined, then transferred via midi with dsound. Then on the s50 make a sample tone but use the big combinded sample as the source, then the different sample start and end points to make each sample again. This gives you a few extra seconds of sampling space in some cases. Brilliant if you've only got 14 seconds to playwith. >I'm sorry to post this, but I need a quick way to convert or load wav sounds >from my computer to my S-550. I saw a conversation on this recently, but I >really didn't pay attention because it didn't apply to me at that time. > >What was the conclusion? What is the easiest way to transfer sounds? I use a >Mac primarily, but I do have a Windows notebook. > > >D-SoundPro >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sdaino -- - Windows 95: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. band webpage: http://www.elusivetones.co.nz band mp3: http://www.mp3.com/elusivetones band email: mailto:elusivetones@email.com webpage: http://www.geocities.com/moznz/ my email: mailto:craigus@bigfoot.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 18 11:36:49 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-9545>; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:36:40 -0400 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-9545>; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:36:30 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive114.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.4.36]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26323; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:35:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39C637C1.3E6F85B5@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:41:53 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JLMjr@aol.com CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I use a program provided by Ingo Debus, a member of this list! It's for the Atari ST, though. As a matter of fact, this Saturday I created eight diskettes worth of Korg X5 samples from some wav files I downloaded from the internet. They sound great! AFAIK, DSound Pro is only for the Mac. Does anyone know when a Windows version will be available? Jesse JLMjr@aol.com wrote: > > Okay people, > > I'm sorry to post this, but I need a quick way to convert or load wav sounds > from my computer to my S-550. I saw a conversation on this recently, but I > really didn't pay attention because it didn't apply to me at that time. > > What was the conclusion? What is the easiest way to transfer sounds? I use a > Mac primarily, but I do have a Windows notebook. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 20 04:37:25 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4510>; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 04:37:19 -0400 Received: from gc7.generalconcepts.com (24.65.54.138.on.wave.home.com [24.65.54.138]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4510>; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 04:37:12 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc7.generalconcepts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03708 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 04:37:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-10032>; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:08:31 -0400 Received: from paldek (pool-207-205-218-106.pbgh.grid.net [207.205.218.106]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12788 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 2000 22:08:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003f01c022c0$b2a50bc0$6adacdcf@ix.netcom.com> From: "Marc Plainguet" To: Subject: sgroup HELP! - MIDI to W-30! Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:03:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I am trying to take .seq or .mid files I have written on my computer and transfer them to a w-30 disk. I have tried a weird and very faulty program called SMFW30 but it only worked on 1 disk. Does anyone know a good way to do this? Can I actually have the computer sequencer play the w-30 and record it in real time, or is there another possibility via software that I haven't found yet? Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Marc Plainguet -- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 20 09:16:30 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4510>; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:16:23 -0400 Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4510>; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 09:16:13 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-26-38.tnt2.me2.uunet.de [149.225.26.38]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id PAA24498 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:16:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39C8B214.6990F66@cityweb.de> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:48:20 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 References: <39C637C1.3E6F85B5@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse Segovia wrote: > > I use a program provided by Ingo Debus, a member of this list! It's for > the Atari ST, though. As a matter of fact, this Saturday I created > eight diskettes worth of Korg X5 samples from some wav files I > downloaded from the internet. They sound great! If I were to transfer only a few samples to or from a S-550 I think I'd prefer DSoundPro over my own program :-) (I'm running my prog on a Mac using MagiCMac, an Atari emulator). DSoundPro can read S-550 disks directly, for instance. But once I had to transfer a *lot* of WAVs to my S-760, and DSoundPro's SCSI transfer feature didn't work for one reason or another. Stefano was very helpful then, but it seemed to be an OS problem, and instead updating the OS, I decided to implement the batch feature into my prog. So the prog can transfer one WAV after another to the S-760 via MIDI without user interaction until the S-760's 32MB memory is filled (this can take hours!). Doesn't make that much sense with a S-550 though, because the batch cannot make the sampler store the samples on disk, and the S-550's RAM is rather small. The program can also extract samples (but not all the sound parameters) from Soundfont2 compatible files. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 21 02:16:02 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-10137>; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:15:54 -0400 Received: from mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.52]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-10138>; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:15:40 -0400 Received: from worldnet.att.net ([12.78.234.240]) by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000921061536.VSDB14966.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Thu, 21 Sep 2000 06:15:36 +0000 Message-ID: <39C9A71D.2EE8DBFA@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 02:13:49 -0400 From: Batelboy Organization: Batelboy Music X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Early W-30 drum maps? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi .. I used to own a W-30. Was a GREAT instrument, but had to sell to a friend that has since moved from the area. i have several pieces of music that I am rejuvenating and I know that some of the drum parts were done in the W-30. I have several pieces of Roland gear at present but the drum map in the sampler was not Roland GS format for general MIDI at that time, so all the voices do not map correctly. Does anyone have the disk set that, I think, is the power set and standard set? If I can get a map of the disks I can replicate the approximate sounds. As I did quite a few songs with this, it would be easier if I had the map rather than spend eternity trying to listen to tapes and figure otu what was going on, as a lot of the stuff is rather intricate. I would appreciate any help .. Thanks .. Monty Batelboy@att.net - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 22 19:47:59 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-21520>; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:47:52 -0400 Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.30]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-21520>; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:47:45 -0400 Received: from monel - 63.42.30.28 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:46:41 -0700 Message-ID: <00d601c024f0$4d345480$1c1e2a3f@monel> From: "claybarker" To: References: <39C637C1.3E6F85B5@mindspring.com> <39C8B214.6990F66@cityweb.de> Subject: sgroup S-50 disk drive Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 19:53:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk What type of disk drive must I use to replace the one in my S-50? I can't get it to recognize any of my disks anymore, and I am thinking I may have to replace it..I hear the motor running, and some mechaninsms moving , but I still get " PLEASE INSERT S-50 DISK" after a few seconds of spinning...any help will be greatly appreciated ! thanks in advance clay - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 23 03:13:20 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-16656>; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 03:13:11 -0400 Received: from mail.libertysurf.net ([213.36.80.91]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-16655>; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 03:13:01 -0400 Received: from yo (213.36.98.247) by mail.libertysurf.net (5.1.046) id 39CB08710001557F; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 09:04:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000301c0252c$8de110e0$f76224d5@yo> From: "lionel Genois" To: , , , Subject: sgroup midi quest midi interface Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 07:58:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01C0249D.398BC2E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01C0249D.398BC2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm looking for a driver for windows for my old midiquest interface = 1*1. 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I'm looking for a driver for windows = for my old=20 midiquest  interface 1*1. Is
there anybody who can help me or = send me=20 one  ?
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From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 24 12:43:56 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-1818>; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:43:49 -0400 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-1817>; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:43:39 -0400 Received: from paldek (pool-207-205-216-113.pbgh.grid.net [207.205.216.113]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA08283 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002e01c0265f$9f2dc760$71d8cdcf@ix.netcom.com> From: "Marc Plainguet" To: Subject: sgroup MIDI to W30 Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 15:41:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >The way I used to do it was to set the W30's sync to external, set it to >record, and play them on the computer into the W30. I hope you find a >proggie to do it - this method takes a while... Well, I found my missing manual and found out I can do exactly what you said. It's amazing what you can do when you read the manual. :-) This method worked VERY well for me. It copied it exactly. I copied all the MIDI information to track 1. Then used 'extract' functions to separate the channels to tracks. Excellent! Marc Plainguet paldek@ix.netcom.com "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 24 16:38:11 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-1817>; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:38:02 -0400 Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.89]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-1818>; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:37:50 -0400 Received: from grifgraf.demon.co.uk ([194.222.88.198]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13dIWq-000Ii7-0V for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 21:37:41 +0100 Message-ID: <39CE6711.23C942D0@grifgraf.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:42:55 -0400 From: Pete Reply-To: pete@grifgraf.demon.co.uk Organization: pete@grifgraf.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Backup query actually Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Been having tons o' fun on the old sampler this weekend. Having been doing more hard disc recording recently, I forgot what a good machine the Roland is. I was making up a collage of 'found' sounds and assembling them into a rhythm, and I found it much quicker and a lot more intuitive to do that in the sampler than within Cubase. Sorry, rambling. Anyway - and I apologise since the question has I'm sure been asked before - but can I make a CD backup of the contents of the external hard disc on my S750? I'm using Toast on a Mac... can someone give me any pointers? Thanks y'all Pete "Look, there's a guy with no clever signature on his emails... what a lame-o!" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 01:34:44 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-26856>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:34:35 -0400 Received: from elmls01.ce.mediaone.net ([24.131.128.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26856>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:34:25 -0400 Received: from [24.29.253.13] (el06-24-29-253-13.ce.mediaone.net [24.29.253.13]) by elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA11483; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 00:38:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200009250538.AAA11483@elmls01.ce.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:39:15 -0400 x-sender: aeon@pop.ce.mediaone.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Sorry, rambling. Anyway - and I apologise since the question has I'm >sure been asked before - but can I make a CD backup of the contents of >the external hard disc on my S750? I'm using Toast on a Mac... can >someone give me any pointers? Pete: I would guess simply doing a SCSI copy from the HD to a CD-R would do the trick... BUT I cannot boot my Beige G3 when the Roland HD is connected and on...and if I turn on the drive power after I boot, the machine freezes. dunno what to do, aeon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Of all the tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 11:45:11 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:45:02 -0400 Received: from mail1.mclink.it (net128-007.mclink.it [195.110.128.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:44:55 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (net141-036.mclink.it [195.110.141.36]) by mail1.mclink.it (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA08643; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:44:40 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:47:42 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 From: Stefano Daino To: Craig Harris , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Craig, thanks for the 'brilliant'! Ciao Stefano Daino the author of D-SoundPRO sdaino@compuserve.com > From: Craig Harris > Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:17:34 -0400 > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > > dsound pro is briliant for this - when I used an s50, I'd join the > samples together with soundeffects.092 and take note of where they > joined, then transferred via midi with dsound. Then on the s50 make > a sample tone but use the big combinded sample as the source, then > the different sample start and end points to make each sample again. > This gives you a few extra seconds of sampling space in some cases. > Brilliant if you've only got 14 seconds to playwith. > > >> I'm sorry to post this, but I need a quick way to convert or load wav sounds >> from my computer to my S-550. I saw a conversation on this recently, but I >> really didn't pay attention because it didn't apply to me at that time. >> >> What was the conclusion? What is the easiest way to transfer sounds? I use a >> Mac primarily, but I do have a Windows notebook. >> >> >> D-SoundPro >> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sdaino > > -- > > > - Windows 95: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a > 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a > 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand > for 1 bit of competition. > > band webpage: http://www.elusivetones.co.nz > band mp3: http://www.mp3.com/elusivetones > band email: mailto:elusivetones@email.com > > webpage: http://www.geocities.com/moznz/ > my email: mailto:craigus@bigfoot.com > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 11:45:21 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:45:11 -0400 Received: from mail1.mclink.it (net128-007.mclink.it [195.110.128.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:45:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (net141-036.mclink.it [195.110.141.36]) by mail1.mclink.it (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA08666; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:44:42 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:47:42 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 From: Stefano Daino To: Jesse Segovia CC: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <39C637C1.3E6F85B5@mindspring.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Jesse, D-SoundPRO for Windows is in progress. But I really don't know when it will be ready. I'm doing it in parallel to D-SoundPRO 4.0 for Mac, now under final development. Thanks Ciao Stefano > From: Jesse Segovia > Organization: Elanza > Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:41:53 -0400 > To: JLMjr@aol.com > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > AFAIK, DSound Pro is only for the Mac. Does anyone know when a Windows > version will be available? > > Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 11:45:46 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:45:30 -0400 Received: from mail1.mclink.it (net128-007.mclink.it [195.110.128.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:45:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (net141-036.mclink.it [195.110.141.36]) by mail1.mclink.it (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA08684; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:44:43 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:47:42 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 From: Stefano Daino To: Ingo Debus , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <39C8B214.6990F66@cityweb.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Ingo, thank you very much for your very kind words about my program D-SoundPRO... About the scsi connection to do a dump from/to the Mac and the S760, I found an excellent note at Roland web site. It is a supplemental notes to the S760 Owner Manual, dated May 1, 1996, with reference SN44 V.2.0. It is a PDF file named 760XFER.PDF. I don't know if it is still there. If can be useful, I could post it somewhere. But I don't know if it is copyright by Roland... Hoping this will help, Ciao Stefano > From: Ingo Debus > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:48:20 -0400 > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > > > > Jesse Segovia wrote: >> >> I use a program provided by Ingo Debus, a member of this list! It's for >> the Atari ST, though. As a matter of fact, this Saturday I created >> eight diskettes worth of Korg X5 samples from some wav files I >> downloaded from the internet. They sound great! > > If I were to transfer only a few samples to or from a S-550 I think I'd > prefer DSoundPro over my own program :-) > (I'm running my prog on a Mac using MagiCMac, an Atari emulator). > DSoundPro can read S-550 disks directly, for instance. > > But once I had to transfer a *lot* of WAVs to my S-760, and DSoundPro's > SCSI transfer feature didn't work for one reason or another. Stefano was > very helpful then, but it seemed to be an OS problem, and instead > updating the OS, I decided to implement the batch feature into my prog. > So the prog can transfer one WAV after another to the S-760 via MIDI > without user interaction until the S-760's 32MB memory is filled (this > can take hours!). Doesn't make that much sense with a S-550 though, > because the batch cannot make the sampler store the samples on disk, and > the S-550's RAM is rather small. > > The program can also extract samples (but not all the sound parameters) > from Soundfont2 compatible files. > > Ingo > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 16:07:28 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:07:19 -0400 Received: from spdmgaaf.compuserve.com (ds-img-6.compuserve.com [149.174.206.139]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:07:16 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id QAA08195 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:06:44 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup s760 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200009251606_MC2-B498-9433@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, If i want to make a bunch of drum sounds into a kit on the s760, I can se= nd each sound via software to the 760. The problem is that then i need to create partials for each sample. slowwww. If I just sampled the saound on the 760 instead I could sample from the partial page and have samples and partials created automatically. This saves a step, but is not a digital transfer. Is there any software anyone is using on a PC that will take a wav file, and create partials and samples on a s760? I'd prefer it didn't also try = to create a patch in the 760. There should be some software where you gather up samples and make patches/partials etc on a pc, then transfer em.. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 16:17:36 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:17:28 -0400 Received: from mail.airmail.net ([206.66.12.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193673-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:17:18 -0400 Received: from [10.31.73.2] from [209.196.98.74] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.438) with esmtp for sender: id ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:17:09 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.airmail.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200009251606_MC2-B498-9433@compuserve.com> References: <200009251606_MC2-B498-9433@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:18:51 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup s760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk ReCycle! will do it for you. At least the Mac version does, not sure about the PC. It creates patches & partials. >Hi all, > >If i want to make a bunch of drum sounds into a kit on the s760, I can send >each sound via software to the 760. > >The problem is that then i need to create partials for each sample. >slowwww. > >If I just sampled the saound on the 760 instead I could sample from the >partial page and have samples and partials created automatically. This >saves a step, but is not a digital transfer. > >Is there any software anyone is using on a PC that will take a wav file, >and create partials and samples on a s760? I'd prefer it didn't also try to >create a patch in the 760. > >There should be some software where you gather up samples and make >patches/partials etc on a pc, then transfer em.. > > |_e_/~ Dennis Barton > ) skylab2000 > ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles > / http://skylab2000.com > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: omz ............................................... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: BLI Recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf Alejandro Jodorowsky http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 16:46:22 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:46:16 -0400 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:46:01 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive1sj.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.7.147]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18570 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39CFBB10.F28BBC40@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:52:32 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually References: <39CE6711.23C942D0@grifgraf.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I spent much of this weekend converting wav. files found on the internet into S-550 diskettes. They sound great. The only problem is with sample length; converting a 44.1KHz wav. file to 32KHz increases the sample size and with the 7.2 second limitation in the S-550, I end up having to chop up the big ones and trying to re-loop myself. But I'll end up with hundreds more diskettes full of great sounding samples. Has anyone else found any good sources for free samples on the net? Jesse Pete wrote: > > Been having tons o' fun on the old sampler this weekend. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 16:58:17 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-26856>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:58:07 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:58:00 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25213; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjspc (lg1s8p12.dashmail.net [216.36.20.96]) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18855; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'Jesse Segovia'" , Subject: RE: sgroup Backup query actually Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:57:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <39CFBB10.F28BBC40@mindspring.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk cool....SHARE! > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 1:53 PM > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually > > > I spent much of this weekend converting wav. files found on > the internet > into S-550 diskettes. They sound great. The only problem is with > sample length; converting a 44.1KHz wav. file to 32KHz increases the > sample size and with the 7.2 second limitation in the S-550, I end up > having to chop up the big ones and trying to re-loop myself. > > But I'll end up with hundreds more diskettes full of great sounding > samples. > > Has anyone else found any good sources for free samples on the net? > > Jesse > > Pete wrote: > > > > Been having tons o' fun on the old sampler this weekend. > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 17:15:10 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:15:00 -0400 Received: from mail.grove.ufl.edu ([128.227.8.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26856>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:14:49 -0400 Received: from dogwood.grove.ufl.edu (hotrod@dogwood-f [10.5.102.12]) by mail.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/h2) with ESMTP id RAA05138; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by dogwood.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/c1) with ESMTP id RAA08643; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Comments: RAA08643 on dogwood (hop 0), Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:14:39 -0400 From: mike p X-Sender: hotrod@dogwood To: Jesse Segovia cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually In-Reply-To: <39CFBB10.F28BBC40@mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > sample length; converting a 44.1KHz wav. file to 32KHz increases the > sample size and with the 7.2 second limitation in the S-550, I end up i came across this a few years ago. i thought that perhaps this was a way to trick the sampler into operating at a higher samplerate. i finally found a block diagram of the sampler and shure enough there are fixed hardware lopass filters at the end of the line. so it doesnt help anything. though i *thought* i could hear a little extra high end, so maybe there is warrent to do more subjective testing with cymbal samples.. not to worry, you can save the extra sample time. use a sample editor to change the sample rate to 30khz before you transfer. then when they get into the sampler they will play back at the right pitch and not use up extra memory. interestingly you can get effective sample rates inbetween 15khz and 30khz this way, if you want to. you just have to adjust the playback pitch by ear after transferring. m - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 17:34:50 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-26856>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:34:43 -0400 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:34:33 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive1sj.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.7.147]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12815; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39CFC66D.D2AA4926@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:41:01 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sjs@bstage.com CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Steve Schow wrote: > > cool....SHARE! Definitely! I've already got a list of all my samples ready in MS Word format if anyone wants it. Are we limited to passing individual sdisk files back and forth? Or is there some place we can upload the files for everyone? Two two big reasons to do this are to get new samples from others, and for someone hopefully to volunteer to clean up and re-loop some of the personal samples. On the original list, the guy who maintained the old sample library would clean 'em up and reloop on his Mac or PC software and then make them available to the group. I've asked this about two hundred times now but would anyone like to take the time to do this for the list? I'd volunteer but I don't have the software to do it. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 25 23:26:31 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:26:27 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26855>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:26:11 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11697 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjspc (lg1s8p12.dashmail.net [216.36.20.96]) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20829 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: Subject: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:25:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <39CFC66D.D2AA4926@mindspring.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk does anyone know the proper way to use CDRWin to copy S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's??? So I talked with the guys at ChickenSys software. They are the ones making the translator software to translate between many different samplers. Not only does their software translate the raw sample data (which is not that big of a deal anyway), but it also makes a best effort to translate other program settings: keymaps, envelope settings, etc. In other words, it does the best job that is possible to COMPLETELY convert sample programs from one sampler to another. Up until now, the S-50/S-550 has not been included on their list. However I recently got someone there to agree, that if I can provide them with the info they need, they will build translators for the S-50/S-550. What does this mean? It means for one thing that I might be able to load my S-50 library into my Kurzweil finally. But it also may mean that Akai samples might be loadable into the S-550, (well up to 1.5MB anyway ;-) So, at this point they want a HD from the S-50 that has been formatted and loaded with some programs. They will use this to figure stuff out somehow. I don't have a HD, so I offered to send them a CD-ROM, which I believe has the same stuff on it as a HD would. I just need to copy a disc to send it to them. They also asked for info about programs that can read an S-50/S-550 floppy on a PC and convert to WAV. I know those are out there. Is the source for those available, anyone know? -steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:41 PM > To: sjs@bstage.com > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually > > > Steve Schow wrote: > > > > cool....SHARE! > > Definitely! I've already got a list of all my samples ready > in MS Word > format if anyone wants it. > > Are we limited to passing individual sdisk files back and > forth? Or is > there some place we can upload the files for everyone? > > Two two big reasons to do this are to get new samples from others, and > for someone hopefully to volunteer to clean up and re-loop some of the > personal samples. On the original list, the guy who > maintained the old > sample library would clean 'em up and reloop on his Mac or PC software > and then make them available to the group. I've asked this about two > hundred times now but would anyone like to take the time to > do this for > the list? > > I'd volunteer but I don't have the software to do it. > > Jesse > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 26 03:52:36 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:52:29 -0400 Received: from mahonia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-abo-5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.58]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:52:19 -0400 Received: from nardo (193.251.55.70) by mahonia.wanadoo.fr; 26 Sep 2000 09:52:06 +0200 Message-ID: <005901c0278e$e11baae0$0a00000a@nardo> From: "bernard chavonnet" To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:53:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Maybe I can help on this one. I'm the developer of CDxtract and I have a very good knowledge of the Windows programming, the Roland S760 CD-ROM format and even the Roland deemphasis algorithm. D-SoundPRO is a very good product and I would be happy to help Stefano port it to the Windows platform. What do you think Stefano ? Bernard www.cdxtract.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefano Daino" To: "Ingo Debus" ; Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 5:47 PM Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > Hi Ingo, > > thank you very much for your very kind words about my program D-SoundPRO... > > About the scsi connection to do a dump from/to the Mac and the S760, I found > an excellent note at Roland web site. It is a supplemental notes to the S760 > Owner Manual, dated May 1, 1996, with reference SN44 V.2.0. It is a PDF file > named 760XFER.PDF. > > I don't know if it is still there. If can be useful, I could post it > somewhere. But I don't know if it is copyright by Roland... > > Hoping this will help, > > Ciao > > Stefano > > > From: Ingo Debus > > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:48:20 -0400 > > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > > > > > > > > > Jesse Segovia wrote: > >> > >> I use a program provided by Ingo Debus, a member of this list! It's for > >> the Atari ST, though. As a matter of fact, this Saturday I created > >> eight diskettes worth of Korg X5 samples from some wav files I > >> downloaded from the internet. They sound great! > > > > If I were to transfer only a few samples to or from a S-550 I think I'd > > prefer DSoundPro over my own program :-) > > (I'm running my prog on a Mac using MagiCMac, an Atari emulator). > > DSoundPro can read S-550 disks directly, for instance. > > > > But once I had to transfer a *lot* of WAVs to my S-760, and DSoundPro's > > SCSI transfer feature didn't work for one reason or another. Stefano was > > very helpful then, but it seemed to be an OS problem, and instead > > updating the OS, I decided to implement the batch feature into my prog. > > So the prog can transfer one WAV after another to the S-760 via MIDI > > without user interaction until the S-760's 32MB memory is filled (this > > can take hours!). Doesn't make that much sense with a S-550 though, > > because the batch cannot make the sampler store the samples on disk, and > > the S-550's RAM is rather small. > > > > The program can also extract samples (but not all the sound parameters) > > from Soundfont2 compatible files. > > > > Ingo > > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 26 14:43:09 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:43:00 -0400 Received: from devonshire.cnchost.com (devonshire.concentric.net [207.155.248.12]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:42:54 -0400 Received: from skeletonhome.com ([208.37.245.184]) by devonshire.cnchost.com id OAA01466; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:42:50 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.10] Message-ID: <39D0EE28.B1BBA232@skeletonhome.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:42:50 -0400 From: Bruce Tovsky Reply-To: bruce@skeletonhome.com Organization: skeleton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sjs@bstage.com CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Steve I'd be surprised if they could do the drivers without an S550/S50 to work with. I worked with Turtle Beach several years ago helping them do the S550 drivers for Samplevision Windows and I ended up lending them my S550 - which they promptly blew by plugging and unplugging the mouse with it on! Eventually they got the driver to work, and then gave up on the program. C'est la vie. I switched to the Mac shortly after and I've used D-Sound since - hats off to Stefano. On a related note, I'd still love to figure out how to copy CD-Rs of Roland samples on my Mac - it refuses to recognize the CD-R in either my CD-ROM drive or CD-Writer. I may have a friend with Linux do it for me. Keep us informed about ChickenSys. Do they do Mac? Bruce Steve Schow wrote: > does anyone know the proper way to use CDRWin to copy S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's??? > > So I talked with the guys at ChickenSys software. They are the ones making > the translator software to translate between many different samplers. Not > only does their software translate the raw sample data (which is not that > big of a deal anyway), but it also makes a best effort to translate other > program settings: keymaps, envelope settings, etc. In other words, it does > the best job that is possible to COMPLETELY convert sample programs from one > sampler to another. > > Up until now, the S-50/S-550 has not been included on their list. However I > recently got someone there to agree, that if I can provide them with the > info they need, they will build translators for the S-50/S-550. What does > this mean? It means for one thing that I might be able to load my S-50 > library into my Kurzweil finally. But it also may mean that Akai samples > might be loadable into the S-550, (well up to 1.5MB anyway ;-) > > So, at this point they want a HD from the S-50 that has been formatted and > loaded with some programs. They will use this to figure stuff out somehow. > I don't have a HD, so I offered to send them a CD-ROM, which I believe has > the same stuff on it as a HD would. I just need to copy a disc to send it > to them. > > They also asked for info about programs that can read an S-50/S-550 floppy > on a PC and convert to WAV. I know those are out there. Is the source for > those available, anyone know? > > -steve > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:41 PM > > To: sjs@bstage.com > > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > > Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually > > > > > > Steve Schow wrote: > > > > > > cool....SHARE! > > > > Definitely! I've already got a list of all my samples ready > > in MS Word > > format if anyone wants it. > > > > Are we limited to passing individual sdisk files back and > > forth? Or is > > there some place we can upload the files for everyone? > > > > Two two big reasons to do this are to get new samples from others, and > > for someone hopefully to volunteer to clean up and re-loop some of the > > personal samples. On the original list, the guy who > > maintained the old > > sample library would clean 'em up and reloop on his Mac or PC software > > and then make them available to the group. I've asked this about two > > hundred times now but would anyone like to take the time to > > do this for > > the list? > > > > I'd volunteer but I don't have the software to do it. > > > > Jesse > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 26 15:19:58 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4050>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:19:50 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4050>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:19:46 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11642; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjspc (lg1s8p12.dashmail.net [216.36.20.96]) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22755; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'bernard chavonnet'" , Subject: RE: sgroup WAV to S-550 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:18:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <005901c0278e$e11baae0$0a00000a@nardo> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey cool! Bernard, do you know if the CD format for the S-760 is the same or similar to that of the S-550? Also, what can you tell me about the Roland deemphasis algorithm. Is this the supposed "Differential Interpolation" thing that they used to put on sales brochures for the S-550? -steve > -----Original Message----- > From: bernard chavonnet [mailto:bernard@chavonnet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:54 AM > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > > Maybe I can help on this one. > I'm the developer of CDxtract and I have a very good knowledge of the > Windows programming, the Roland S760 CD-ROM format and even > the Roland deemphasis algorithm. > > D-SoundPRO is a very good product and I would be happy to help > Stefano port it to the Windows platform. > > What do you think Stefano ? > > Bernard > www.cdxtract.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefano Daino" > To: "Ingo Debus" ; > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > > > Hi Ingo, > > > > thank you very much for your very kind words about my program > D-SoundPRO... > > > > About the scsi connection to do a dump from/to the Mac and > the S760, I > found > > an excellent note at Roland web site. It is a supplemental > notes to the > S760 > > Owner Manual, dated May 1, 1996, with reference SN44 V.2.0. > It is a PDF > file > > named 760XFER.PDF. > > > > I don't know if it is still there. If can be useful, I could post it > > somewhere. But I don't know if it is copyright by Roland... > > > > Hoping this will help, > > > > Ciao > > > > Stefano > > > > > From: Ingo Debus > > > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:48:20 -0400 > > > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > > > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesse Segovia wrote: > > >> > > >> I use a program provided by Ingo Debus, a member of this > list! It's > for > > >> the Atari ST, though. As a matter of fact, this > Saturday I created > > >> eight diskettes worth of Korg X5 samples from some wav files I > > >> downloaded from the internet. They sound great! > > > > > > If I were to transfer only a few samples to or from a > S-550 I think I'd > > > prefer DSoundPro over my own program :-) > > > (I'm running my prog on a Mac using MagiCMac, an Atari emulator). > > > DSoundPro can read S-550 disks directly, for instance. > > > > > > But once I had to transfer a *lot* of WAVs to my S-760, > and DSoundPro's > > > SCSI transfer feature didn't work for one reason or > another. Stefano was > > > very helpful then, but it seemed to be an OS problem, and instead > > > updating the OS, I decided to implement the batch feature > into my prog. > > > So the prog can transfer one WAV after another to the > S-760 via MIDI > > > without user interaction until the S-760's 32MB memory is > filled (this > > > can take hours!). Doesn't make that much sense with a > S-550 though, > > > because the batch cannot make the sampler store the > samples on disk, and > > > the S-550's RAM is rather small. > > > > > > The program can also extract samples (but not all the > sound parameters) > > > from Soundfont2 compatible files. > > > > > > Ingo > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more > information. > > > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 26 15:20:53 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4050>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:20:45 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4050>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:20:38 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11692; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjspc (lg1s8p12.dashmail.net [216.36.20.96]) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22780; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:20:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <39D0EE28.B1BBA232@skeletonhome.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If that is the case, I will gladly consider loaning them my S-550. However, my understanding is that all they need is a HD from the S-550 (which I don't have). I suggested a CD and they are going to see if that would be enough to reverse engineer what they need to know. Does D-Sound convert all the other program parameters? Ie, keymaps, envelopes, EQ, filters, etc..?? -steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Tovsky [mailto:bruce@skeletonhome.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:43 AM > To: sjs@bstage.com > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's > > > Steve > I'd be surprised if they could do the drivers without > an S550/S50 to work with. I worked with Turtle > Beach several years ago helping them do the S550 > drivers for Samplevision Windows and I ended up > lending them my S550 - which they promptly blew > by plugging and unplugging the mouse with it on! > Eventually they got the driver to work, and then > gave up on the program. C'est la vie. I switched > to the Mac shortly after and I've used D-Sound > since - hats off to Stefano. On a related note, I'd > still love to figure out how to copy CD-Rs of Roland > samples on my Mac - it refuses to recognize the > CD-R in either my CD-ROM drive or CD-Writer. > I may have a friend with Linux do it for me. > Keep us informed about ChickenSys. Do they do > Mac? > Bruce > > Steve Schow wrote: > > > does anyone know the proper way to use CDRWin to copy > S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's??? > > > > So I talked with the guys at ChickenSys software. They are > the ones making > > the translator software to translate between many different > samplers. Not > > only does their software translate the raw sample data > (which is not that > > big of a deal anyway), but it also makes a best effort to > translate other > > program settings: keymaps, envelope settings, etc. In > other words, it does > > the best job that is possible to COMPLETELY convert sample > programs from one > > sampler to another. > > > > Up until now, the S-50/S-550 has not been included on their > list. However I > > recently got someone there to agree, that if I can provide > them with the > > info they need, they will build translators for the > S-50/S-550. What does > > this mean? It means for one thing that I might be able to > load my S-50 > > library into my Kurzweil finally. But it also may mean > that Akai samples > > might be loadable into the S-550, (well up to 1.5MB anyway ;-) > > > > So, at this point they want a HD from the S-50 that has > been formatted and > > loaded with some programs. They will use this to figure > stuff out somehow. > > I don't have a HD, so I offered to send them a CD-ROM, > which I believe has > > the same stuff on it as a HD would. I just need to copy a > disc to send it > > to them. > > > > They also asked for info about programs that can read an > S-50/S-550 floppy > > on a PC and convert to WAV. I know those are out there. > Is the source for > > those available, anyone know? > > > > -steve > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:41 PM > > > To: sjs@bstage.com > > > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > > > Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually > > > > > > > > > Steve Schow wrote: > > > > > > > > cool....SHARE! > > > > > > Definitely! I've already got a list of all my samples ready > > > in MS Word > > > format if anyone wants it. > > > > > > Are we limited to passing individual sdisk files back and > > > forth? Or is > > > there some place we can upload the files for everyone? > > > > > > Two two big reasons to do this are to get new samples > from others, and > > > for someone hopefully to volunteer to clean up and > re-loop some of the > > > personal samples. On the original list, the guy who > > > maintained the old > > > sample library would clean 'em up and reloop on his Mac > or PC software > > > and then make them available to the group. I've asked > this about two > > > hundred times now but would anyone like to take the time to > > > do this for > > > the list? > > > > > > I'd volunteer but I don't have the software to do it. > > > > > > Jesse > > > > > > - > > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more > information. > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 26 15:22:23 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:22:13 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:22:07 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11768; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjspc (lg1s8p12.dashmail.net [216.36.20.96]) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22785; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:21:39 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <39D0EE28.B1BBA232@skeletonhome.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk And no...they don't do mac I don't think....check there website www.chickensys.com I'd really like to find out which is the best way to copy S-550 CDR's. CDRWin? I can use Linux too if I have to. ?? -steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Tovsky [mailto:bruce@skeletonhome.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 11:43 AM > To: sjs@bstage.com > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's > > > Steve > I'd be surprised if they could do the drivers without > an S550/S50 to work with. I worked with Turtle > Beach several years ago helping them do the S550 > drivers for Samplevision Windows and I ended up > lending them my S550 - which they promptly blew > by plugging and unplugging the mouse with it on! > Eventually they got the driver to work, and then > gave up on the program. C'est la vie. I switched > to the Mac shortly after and I've used D-Sound > since - hats off to Stefano. On a related note, I'd > still love to figure out how to copy CD-Rs of Roland > samples on my Mac - it refuses to recognize the > CD-R in either my CD-ROM drive or CD-Writer. > I may have a friend with Linux do it for me. > Keep us informed about ChickenSys. Do they do > Mac? > Bruce > > Steve Schow wrote: > > > does anyone know the proper way to use CDRWin to copy > S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's??? > > > > So I talked with the guys at ChickenSys software. They are > the ones making > > the translator software to translate between many different > samplers. Not > > only does their software translate the raw sample data > (which is not that > > big of a deal anyway), but it also makes a best effort to > translate other > > program settings: keymaps, envelope settings, etc. In > other words, it does > > the best job that is possible to COMPLETELY convert sample > programs from one > > sampler to another. > > > > Up until now, the S-50/S-550 has not been included on their > list. However I > > recently got someone there to agree, that if I can provide > them with the > > info they need, they will build translators for the > S-50/S-550. What does > > this mean? It means for one thing that I might be able to > load my S-50 > > library into my Kurzweil finally. But it also may mean > that Akai samples > > might be loadable into the S-550, (well up to 1.5MB anyway ;-) > > > > So, at this point they want a HD from the S-50 that has > been formatted and > > loaded with some programs. They will use this to figure > stuff out somehow. > > I don't have a HD, so I offered to send them a CD-ROM, > which I believe has > > the same stuff on it as a HD would. I just need to copy a > disc to send it > > to them. > > > > They also asked for info about programs that can read an > S-50/S-550 floppy > > on a PC and convert to WAV. I know those are out there. > Is the source for > > those available, anyone know? > > > > -steve > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:41 PM > > > To: sjs@bstage.com > > > Cc: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > > > Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually > > > > > > > > > Steve Schow wrote: > > > > > > > > cool....SHARE! > > > > > > Definitely! I've already got a list of all my samples ready > > > in MS Word > > > format if anyone wants it. > > > > > > Are we limited to passing individual sdisk files back and > > > forth? Or is > > > there some place we can upload the files for everyone? > > > > > > Two two big reasons to do this are to get new samples > from others, and > > > for someone hopefully to volunteer to clean up and > re-loop some of the > > > personal samples. On the original list, the guy who > > > maintained the old > > > sample library would clean 'em up and reloop on his Mac > or PC software > > > and then make them available to the group. I've asked > this about two > > > hundred times now but would anyone like to take the time to > > > do this for > > > the list? > > > > > > I'd volunteer but I don't have the software to do it. > > > > > > Jesse > > > > > > - > > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more > information. > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 26 16:56:52 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:56:44 -0400 Received: from mahonia.wanadoo.fr (smtp-abo-5.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.58]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:56:37 -0400 Received: from nardo (193.253.181.114) by mahonia.wanadoo.fr; 26 Sep 2000 22:56:29 +0200 Message-ID: <002e01c027fc$7503d080$0a00000a@nardo> From: "bernard chavonnet" To: References: Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:58:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk No, the S550 CD format is very different from the S760. On S760 CD-Rom, samples are recorded with an emphasis (light boost in the high end) and this emphasis is removed when the S760 plays the samples. So when you read samples directly from the CD-ROM as CDxtract does, you have to remove this emphasis otherwise the samples are too bright. The "differential interpolation" is something different, I think it was used because the S550 stores samples on 12 bits. bernard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Schow" To: "'bernard chavonnet'" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: RE: sgroup WAV to S-550 > Hey cool! Bernard, do you know if the CD format for the S-760 is the same > or similar to that of the S-550? > > Also, what can you tell me about the Roland deemphasis algorithm. Is this > the supposed "Differential Interpolation" thing that they used to put on > sales brochures for the S-550? > > -steve > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bernard chavonnet [mailto:bernard@chavonnet.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:54 AM > > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > > > > > Maybe I can help on this one. > > I'm the developer of CDxtract and I have a very good knowledge of the > > Windows programming, the Roland S760 CD-ROM format and even > > the Roland deemphasis algorithm. > > > > D-SoundPRO is a very good product and I would be happy to help > > Stefano port it to the Windows platform. > > > > What do you think Stefano ? > > > > Bernard > > www.cdxtract.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stefano Daino" > > To: "Ingo Debus" ; > > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 5:47 PM > > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > > > > > > Hi Ingo, > > > > > > thank you very much for your very kind words about my program > > D-SoundPRO... > > > > > > About the scsi connection to do a dump from/to the Mac and > > the S760, I > > found > > > an excellent note at Roland web site. It is a supplemental > > notes to the > > S760 > > > Owner Manual, dated May 1, 1996, with reference SN44 V.2.0. > > It is a PDF > > file > > > named 760XFER.PDF. > > > > > > I don't know if it is still there. If can be useful, I could post it > > > somewhere. But I don't know if it is copyright by Roland... > > > > > > Hoping this will help, > > > > > > Ciao > > > > > > Stefano > > > > > > > From: Ingo Debus > > > > Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:48:20 -0400 > > > > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > > > > Subject: Re: sgroup WAV to S-550 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jesse Segovia wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I use a program provided by Ingo Debus, a member of this > > list! It's > > for > > > >> the Atari ST, though. As a matter of fact, this > > Saturday I created > > > >> eight diskettes worth of Korg X5 samples from some wav files I > > > >> downloaded from the internet. They sound great! > > > > > > > > If I were to transfer only a few samples to or from a > > S-550 I think I'd > > > > prefer DSoundPro over my own program :-) > > > > (I'm running my prog on a Mac using MagiCMac, an Atari emulator). > > > > DSoundPro can read S-550 disks directly, for instance. > > > > > > > > But once I had to transfer a *lot* of WAVs to my S-760, > > and DSoundPro's > > > > SCSI transfer feature didn't work for one reason or > > another. Stefano was > > > > very helpful then, but it seemed to be an OS problem, and instead > > > > updating the OS, I decided to implement the batch feature > > into my prog. > > > > So the prog can transfer one WAV after another to the > > S-760 via MIDI > > > > without user interaction until the S-760's 32MB memory is > > filled (this > > > > can take hours!). Doesn't make that much sense with a > > S-550 though, > > > > because the batch cannot make the sampler store the > > samples on disk, and > > > > the S-550's RAM is rather small. > > > > > > > > The program can also extract samples (but not all the > > sound parameters) > > > > from Soundfont2 compatible files. > > > > > > > > Ingo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > > > For subscription information, send mail to > > majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more > > information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > > > > > - > > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 26 19:47:01 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:46:53 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193673-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:46:46 -0400 Received: (qmail 27401 invoked by uid 0); 26 Sep 2000 23:46:37 -0000 Received: from p3ee28073.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (HELO 194.221.183.20) (62.226.128.115) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 23:46:37 -0000 To: bruce@skeletonhome.com Cc: sjs@bstage.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Re: Copying CD-ROM's / Backup query Reply-To: m.haussmann@gmx.net In-Reply-To: <39D0EE28.B1BBA232@skeletonhome.com> References: <39D0EE28.B1BBA232@skeletonhome.com> From: marc haussmann Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:47:51 -0400 X-Mailer: Musashi 3.2.3-us Message-Id: <2000Sep26.194646edt.193673-4049@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Bruce Tovsky said at =D2Re: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's=D3. [2000/09/26 20:42] > On a related note, I'd > still love to figure out how to copy CD-Rs of Roland > samples on my Mac - it refuses to recognize the > CD-R in either my CD-ROM drive or CD-Writer. in toast it's called scsi copy (in the format menu). connect a scsi cd-r drive to your mac (disable the cd-r extension first, otherwise the mac spits it out right away) and select the correct scsi device in toast. that's it. aeon said at =D2Re: sgroup Backup query actually=D3. [2000/09/25 07:39] > I cannot boot my Beige G3 when the Roland HD is connected and on...and if > I turn on the drive power after I boot, the machine freezes. well, i know this is a big no-no in scsi world but hans zimmer said in a recent interview it was done all the time at media ventures before they got scsi switchers and i do it quite frequently myself and never had a problem: hotplugging. just don't do it while a device is accessing the scsi bus. however, i am not a computer professional, so if something blows up... marc (hotplugging since 1999) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 26 22:39:52 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:39:43 -0400 Received: from www.peak.sfu.ca ([142.58.230.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4049>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:39:37 -0400 Received: from l33t-fux0r (10-102.009.popsite.net [207.227.233.102]) by www.peak.sfu.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA15689 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:56:41 -0700 Message-Id: <200009270256.TAA15689@www.peak.sfu.ca> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.millenicom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:39:10 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup Re: Copying CD-ROM's / Backup query In-Reply-To: <2000Sep26.194646edt.193673-4049@hugin.uunet.ca> References: <39D0EE28.B1BBA232@skeletonhome.com> <39D0EE28.B1BBA232@skeletonhome.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 07:47 PM 9/26/00 -0400, marc haussmann wrote: >well, i know this is a big no-no in scsi world but hans zimmer said in a >recent interview it was done all the time at media ventures before they got >scsi switchers and i do it quite frequently myself and never had a problem: >hotplugging. just don't do it while a device is accessing the scsi bus. > >however, i am not a computer professional, so if something blows up... Of course, Hans Zimmer - unlike most of us - can afford to replace his U2W SCSI card if he fries it doing a hot-plug. Unless you also fall into that category, I would HIGHLY recommend against hot-plugging SCSI devices. - Ben "3r33+ c0mput3r pr0f3ss10n4l" Lincoln - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 26 23:59:16 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-27490>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:59:08 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-27490>; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:59:05 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05694; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjspc (lg1s8p12.dashmail.net [216.36.20.96]) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26374; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'bernard chavonnet'" , Subject: RE: sgroup WAV to S-550 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:58:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002e01c027fc$7503d080$0a00000a@nardo> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk yup..... > The "differential interpolation" is something different, I > think it was used > because > the S550 stores samples on 12 bits. > > bernard > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 27 07:14:35 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-27489>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:14:27 -0400 Received: from vasquez.zip.com.au ([203.12.97.41]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-27489>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:14:13 -0400 Received: from cartman.netbert (jimbo69.zip.com.au [202.7.88.69]) by vasquez.zip.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA32517; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:14:02 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200009271114.WAA32517@vasquez.zip.com.au> From: "Bernie Maier" To: "Roland Samplers List" , "sjs@bstage.com" Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 07:16:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Bernie Maier" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.1111) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:21:39 -0400, Steve Schow wrote: > I'd really like to find out which is the best way to copy S-550 CDR's. > CDRWin? I can use Linux too if I have to. ?? I've burnt an S-760 CD-R at home using a combination of CDRWin to do the burning and FreeBSD to haul the data off the Roland-formatted disk. I think it's possible to do more directly, but my machine with the CD-R drive is on a different SCSI chain to the sampler and FreeBSD machine. I think the direct way is another DOS program that you can get from the CDRWin web site (DISK2CD.EXE). I won't go into the full details of what I did (it involved reading the disk in 50MB chunks because I had too little free disk space on the FreeBSD machine). The gist of it was that I used the dd command on FreeBSD to do a sector read of the sampler disk into a file, then used another DOS tool (ISO2RAW.EXE) from the CDRWin people to construct a raw image from that file, and then used CDRWin to burn the raw file onto CD-R. I needed to run ISO2RAW.EXE because not all CD-R drives can burn non-raw images in Disk-At-Once mode, and mine is one that can't. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We share half our genes with the banana." - Robert May, UK Chief Scientist - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 27 08:26:59 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193679-27490>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:26:51 -0400 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-27489>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:26:41 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-120-85.tnt10.me2.uunet.de [149.225.120.85]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id OAA27083 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:26:35 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39D0C1D4.56F90DAB@cityweb.de> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:33:43 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s760 References: <200009251606_MC2-B498-9433@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dennis barton wrote: > The problem is that then i need to create partials for each sample. > slowwww. It's not really slow (for a single partial :-)), but it's extremely boring if you have to create lots of them. Done that a zillion times.... I usually do it the following way: 1. Go to the partial SMT page, select empty partial 2. Select the sample in the first slot 3. Click the list/name symbol *of the sample* with the right mouse button, so the typewriter keyboard appears with sample's name 4. Click [CR] with left mouse button 5. Click the list/name symbol of the partial with the right mouse button, the typewriter keyboard appears, with sample's name already there 6. Click [CR] with left mouse button, sample's name will become partial's name. 7. Select next empty partial, repeat steps 2...6 again and again... The S-760 will prevent you from creating duplicate partials accidentally (because partial names have to be unique), but it's easy to forget a sample. Start with partial 1 and sample 1 and keep an eye on the partial number and the sample number. If they don't match, you've missed a sample. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 27 08:27:01 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-27489>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:26:51 -0400 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-27490>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:26:41 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-120-85.tnt10.me2.uunet.de [149.225.120.85]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id OAA27053 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:26:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39D0BA60.6E3D7690@cityweb.de> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:01:55 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup samples on the net? References: <39CE6711.23C942D0@grifgraf.demon.co.uk> <39CFBB10.F28BBC40@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse Segovia wrote: > Has anyone else found any good sources for free samples on the net? In the October issue of the German "Keyboards" mag there are a lot of sites with Soundfont files mentioned (not all are free, but most are cheap at least). Still have to try those myself... Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 27 12:03:55 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-27489>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:03:47 -0400 Received: from mail.grove.ufl.edu ([128.227.8.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-27490>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:03:36 -0400 Received: from palm.grove.ufl.edu (hotrod@palm-f [10.5.102.11]) by mail.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/h2) with ESMTP id MAA08520 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by palm.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/c1) with ESMTP id MAA30960 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Comments: MAA30960 on palm (hop 0), Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:03:31 -0400 From: mike p X-Sender: hotrod@palm To: Roland Samplers List Subject: RE: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's In-Reply-To: <200009271114.WAA32517@vasquez.zip.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > I've burnt an S-760 CD-R at home using a combination of CDRWin to do ill add that CDRwin is a great program indeed. it is all i use. i have never not been able to copy a CD with it. (but i never tried a roland format disk). it can even do playstation games, not that i would do that, i dont even have a playstation. you can get a free version from the company's website that is limited to single speed but otherwise fully functional. totally wonderful if you only need it for some special function like roland CDroms. i highly recomend. company is caled golden hawk technology m - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 27 14:36:59 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-27490>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:36:51 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-27490>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:36:48 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03896; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjspc (lg1s8p12.dashmail.net [216.36.20.96]) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28157; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'Bernie Maier'" , "Roland Samplers List" , Subject: RE: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:35:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200009271114.WAA32517@vasquez.zip.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk So,would you say that if I just want to copy a Roland disc, which mode do I put CDRWin into to do that? Shouldn't I be able to just copy the disc with CDRWin, without going through all this stuff you had to do in order to burn a disc from your harddrive? That's good info though... thanks -steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Bernie Maier [mailto:blurk@zip.com.au] > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 4:16 AM > To: Roland Samplers List; sjs@bstage.com > Subject: RE: sgroup Copying S-50/S-550 CD-ROM's > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:21:39 -0400, Steve Schow wrote: > > > I'd really like to find out which is the best way to copy > S-550 CDR's. > > CDRWin? I can use Linux too if I have to. ?? > > I've burnt an S-760 CD-R at home using a combination of CDRWin to do > the burning and FreeBSD to haul the data off the > Roland-formatted disk. > I think it's possible to do more directly, but my machine > with the CD-R > drive is on a different SCSI chain to the sampler and FreeBSD machine. > I think the direct way is another DOS program that you can > get from the > CDRWin web site (DISK2CD.EXE). > > I won't go into the full details of what I did (it involved > reading the > disk in 50MB chunks because I had too little free disk space on the > FreeBSD machine). The gist of it was that I used the dd command on > FreeBSD to do a sector read of the sampler disk into a file, then used > another DOS tool (ISO2RAW.EXE) from the CDRWin people to construct a > raw image from that file, and then used CDRWin to burn the raw file > onto CD-R. I needed to run ISO2RAW.EXE because not all CD-R drives > can burn non-raw images in Disk-At-Once mode, and mine is one > that can't. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > "We share half our genes with the banana." - Robert May, UK > Chief Scientist > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 27 17:09:07 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-27490>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:08:59 -0400 Received: from ops.yyz.gnac.net ([209.250.142.232]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-27490>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:08:53 -0400 Received: by ops.yyz.gnac.net; id OAA17770; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nodnsquery(192.168.16.165) by firewall.ops.yyz.gnac.net via smap (V5.0) id xma017765; Wed, 27 Sep 00 14:11:40 -0700 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc7.generalconcepts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05964; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:07:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:07:56 -0400 Message-Id: <200009272107.RAA05964@gc7.generalconcepts.com> From: John Sellens To: jsegovia@mindspring.com, sjs@bstage.com Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk | From sgroup-owner@hugin.uunet.ca Mon Sep 25 22:25:24 2000 | Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:41:01 -0400 | From: Jesse Segovia | To: sjs@bstage.com | CC: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca | Subject: Re: sgroup Backup query actually | | Definitely! I've already got a list of all my samples ready in MS Word | format if anyone wants it. | | Are we limited to passing individual sdisk files back and forth? Or is | there some place we can upload the files for everyone? I'm happy to put (almost) anything on the sgroup archive site. Send me mail with a warning, and then you can mail sample images to me. Or we can work some other mechanism out. John jsellens@generalconcepts.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 28 01:38:44 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-20520>; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:38:34 -0400 Received: from panther.unisys.com.br ([200.220.64.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-20520>; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:38:28 -0400 Received: from hal9000 (riopm16p04.unisys.com.br [200.220.18.197]) by panther.unisys.com.br (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id e8S5ZwL23502 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 02:35:58 -0300 (BDB) Message-ID: <007401c0290e$3af52840$c512dcc8@hal9000> From: "Newton Cardoso" To: Subject: sgroup S-760 CD Format Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 01:37:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01C028F5.149CE8E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C028F5.149CE8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there... My question is: How could I assemble a Roland S760 CD from individual = assorted files from floppy disks or even from others Roland CD=B4s? Newton Cardoso - Brazil ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01C028F5.149CE8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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My question is: How could I assemble a Roland S760 = CD from=20 individual assorted files from floppy disks or even from others Roland=20 CD=B4s?
 
Newton Cardoso - Brazil
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From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 28 09:21:04 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-20521>; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:20:56 -0400 Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-20521>; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:20:46 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-27-94.tnt2.me2.uunet.de [149.225.27.94]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id PAA26695 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:20:37 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39D1EC0C.372B94C1@cityweb.de> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:46:05 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Re: Copying CD-ROM's / Backup query References: <39D0EE28.B1BBA232@skeletonhome.com> <2000Sep26.194646edt.193673-4049@hugin.uunet.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk marc haussmann wrote: > in toast it's called scsi copy (in the format menu). Since Toast 4 it's called Volume Copy. It can copy from ATAPI CD-ROM drives too. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 29 03:22:08 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-21134>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:21:59 -0400 Received: from sphmgaab.compuserve.com (hs-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.177.151]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-21134>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:21:53 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by sphmgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id DAA18406 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:21:32 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup partials To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200009290321_MC2-B519-7026@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On the s760, it seems like there can only be 255 partials loaded. This seems like a troublesome limit. Anyone have any clever way to deal with this? I load up a drum set with 80+ samples in it and use 80+ partials right away. :( |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 29 11:56:04 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-21135>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:55:56 -0400 Received: from mail.grove.ufl.edu ([128.227.8.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-21135>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:55:49 -0400 Received: from banyan.grove.ufl.edu (hotrod@banyan-f [10.5.102.15]) by mail.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/h2) with ESMTP id LAA00411; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by banyan.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/c1) with ESMTP id LAA29372; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Comments: LAA29372 on banyan (hop 0), Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 11:55:45 -0400 From: mike p X-Sender: hotrod@banyan To: dennis barton cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup partials In-Reply-To: <200009290321_MC2-B519-7026@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Anyone have any clever way to deal with this? > > I load up a drum set with 80+ samples in it and use 80+ partials right > away. jeez. do yout really need that many samples in one kit?! how does that happen? a multisampled electronic version of an over the top heavy metal drum kit? just curious, not trying to be rude. m - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 29 12:45:37 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-21135>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:45:28 -0400 Received: from www.columbus.net ([209.51.193.36]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-21134>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:45:23 -0400 Received: (from mark@localhost) by www.columbus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20270 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:45:20 -0400 Message-Id: <200009291645.MAA20270@www.columbus.net> Subject: sgroup DJ-70: MIDI Sample Dump, Sound Diver Questions To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:45:20 -0400 Reply-To: mark@dougsworld.com From: Markleford Friedman X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Having only a pitiful DJ-70 (not even mkII) at my disposal, meaning no SCSI fun to speak of, I'm looking for a different means by which to archive my samples and use them on PC... Do any of you know of a simple utility that does MIDI Sample Dump for Windows? I've found the Awave Pro demo, which can accomplish this, but I think it's a little pricey ($90) for the one function that I'd use out of it. Some simpler (and free!) program would be preferrable. Also, in passing, I'm wondering if anyone has ever had success in using Sound Diver with the DJ-70. I personally run into various abortive problems when attempting to 'Receive' any data. Could it be because the definition file is for OS 1.0 and I'm on 1.1? Again, any help would be appreciated. - m - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 29 13:23:00 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-21134>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:22:55 -0400 Received: from spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (ds-img-7.compuserve.com [149.174.206.153]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-21134>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:22:45 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmbaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id NAA02270; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:22:23 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup partials To: mike p , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200009291322_MC2-B524-95A9@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >jeez. do yout really need that many samples in one kit?! how does that >happen? a multisampled electronic version of an over the top heavy meta= l >drum kit? just curious, not trying to be rude. > >m I load all the drum sounds I might use in every single song at the start = of the set. Each song may only use 6 or 7 sounds, and there a core of kick/snare tec that rarely changes, but it's nice to have things like cabasa or tamb loaded if I want one.. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 30 08:12:32 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-9941>; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:12:25 -0400 Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-9941>; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:12:14 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-51-132.tnt8.me2.uunet.de [149.225.51.132]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id OAA15875 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:12:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39D493CE.D102BD8A@cityweb.de> Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:06:26 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup partials References: <200009290321_MC2-B519-7026@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dennis barton wrote: > > On the s760, it seems like there can only be 255 partials loaded. This > seems like a troublesome limit. Yes, I find this annoying too. Even worse is the fact that one media (HD, CD-ROM, etc.) can only hold 4096 partials. Why the heck do they allow more samples (8192 on one media) than partials?? The convert-from-Akai algorithm generates tons of partials, once I couldn't store the stuff from one Akai CD-ROM onto one Roland CD-ROM, I had to split it up. It wouldn't even have fitted on two, if I hadn't deleted the duplicate partials the algorithm created. I used SoundDiver to find out which partials are duplicate, but it was very troublesome. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 30 11:17:05 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-9942>; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 11:16:59 -0400 Received: from elmls01.ce.mediaone.net ([24.131.128.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-9942>; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 11:16:52 -0400 Received: from [24.29.253.13] (el06-24-29-253-13.ce.mediaone.net [24.29.253.13]) by elmls01.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA08344; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 10:21:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200009301521.KAA08344@elmls01.ce.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: sgroup partials Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 11:21:53 -0400 x-sender: aeon@pop.ce.mediaone.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: "Ingo Debus" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> On the s760, it seems like there can only be 255 partials loaded. This >> seems like a troublesome limit. > >Yes, I find this annoying too. Even worse is the fact that one media >(HD, CD-ROM, etc.) can only hold 4096 partials. Why the heck do they >allow more samples (8192 on one media) than partials?? Simple...because you can assign up to 4 samples per partial! cheers, aeon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Of all the tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - C.S. Lewis - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.