From owner-sgroup Wed Mar 1 02:22:13 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-17700>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 02:21:39 -0500 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-17701>; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 02:21:29 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-50-236.tnt8.me.uunet.de [149.225.50.236]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id IAA20107 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:21:22 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38BBE430.8C950ED4@cityweb.de> Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:22:27 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s760 monitor? References: <200002282344_MC2-9B1A-11CA@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dennis barton wrote: > I have been using a 13" Sony TV that has video in as a monitor for my s760. > > The resolution is very bad and hard on my eyes, so I'd prefer to use > something better. I assume a dedicated monitor will be higher res than TV. > > Is there a old 9" or 10" color monitor from Apple or Commodore or someone > that is COMPOSITE video that would work better? Was the Apple 2c color? > That about the right size.. > > I could use RGB or s-video, but I have a COMPOSITE VIDEO switcher for > multiple samplers, so composite 9" good res color is my first choice. I've tried different monitors, but there was always poor picture quality using the S-760's composite video output. A friend uses an old Commodore computer monitor with his S-760 with both composite and RGB inputs (switchable). The picture with RGB is far better. The resolution (i.e. number of pixels) is always the same, no matter which monitor or output you use. The S-760 is only capable of this one resolution. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Mar 8 14:41:15 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-1549>; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:39:58 -0500 Received: from fep3-orange.clear.net.nz ([203.97.32.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-1549>; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:39:54 -0500 Received: from default (b002-m010-p038.acld.clear.net.nz [203.167.200.102]) by fep3-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.6) with SMTP id IAA18422; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 08:39:47 +1300 (NZDT) Message-ID: <006201bf8936$86964ea0$66c8a7cb@default> From: "Steve Voisey" To: Subject: sgroup sequencing system disk for s-330 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:42:19 -0500 Organization: Steve Voisey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I just bought a s330 and in the manual it mentions a sequencing utility for it called sys-333 Director-S. I've looked all over the s-group archive and have found no reference to it. Any advice? steve.voisey@clear.net.nz - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Mar 8 22:10:48 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-1549>; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:09:56 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f101.hotmail.com [209.185.131.164]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193674-1549>; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:09:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 25656 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2000 03:08:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20000309030859.25655.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 24.112.158.228 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 19:08:59 PST X-Originating-IP: [24.112.158.228] From: "Andrew Petrasiunas" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup RE:Atari Monitor Pinouts Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:08:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I may just be missing this - I have the pinout wiring config for building an adapter for my colour Atari monitor to my S sampler but could someone please tell me which pin is number 1 etc.... X X X X X X X X X X X and X X X X X X X X X X Thanks. Andrew. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Mar 9 05:00:42 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-13152>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 05:00:06 -0500 Received: from mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com [212.120.66.198]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-13152>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 04:59:50 -0500 Received: from [212.120.82.160] by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000309095948.DFQF3194.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@[212.120.82.160]> for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 10:59:48 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swank.inc@mail Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 04:59:43 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Maurits Jonkergouw Subject: sgroup: S550 save system Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Why can't I change and save my MIDI parameters back to the system disk? I tried 'FD Save System' several times, but when I reload the 'changed' system disk, the MIDI setting are not changed and I have to manually change them again. Maurits - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Mar 9 07:20:25 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-13151>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:19:55 -0500 Received: from mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com [212.120.66.198]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-13151>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:19:52 -0500 Received: from [212.120.82.160] by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000309121942.DRPQ3194.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@[212.120.82.160]> for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:19:42 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swank.inc@mail Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:19:38 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Maurits Jonkergouw Subject: sgroup: S550/SCSI with Syquest 88 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1259518114==_ma============" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --============_-1259518114==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" After a long (Sy)quest whether compatible or not, I didn't find much about this subject. I was 'told' by Roland only the 105MB Syquest (will be 80MB formatted) was compatible. In general newsgroups and documentation I found the 44MB was also good, but nobody knew for sure. So I bought the 88MB version because I thought it was the same technology, only 88M (...). This is what's going on and can't figure out why: 1) I low level format/initialise (not >custom init<) the cart with Apple's 'Drive Setup' from OS8.6. This will install the Apple SCSI driver4.3 amongst the partition map. (I tried to do the same thing with the Syqeust Utility, but this doesn't work for the S550. I also tried to do the >Drive Setup< on a MacOS prior to 8.6 routine, but this makes no difference. At last I tried to do it with the >Apple HD SC Utility< from MacOS7.1, but it doesn't recognize the Syquest at all: guess it's no Apple HD for sure ... 2) I startup the S550 with the cartridge from 1) (drive is ready). 3) When it checks the SCSI-ID in the startup dialog, it states >SCSI check...pass/HD check...HD Unformatted<. 4) First thing I did was the >Disk Setup/HD Format< command: But this is not possible: it starts for a second, but then states in the Menu bar >HD Unformatted< And now the strange part: 5) The HD isn't available untill the next >SCSI Check<. When doing so it's possible to >HD Park/Restart Heads<. This works fine. When doing the >Park/Restart< thing, it says in the Menu >HD Unformatted< but down in the main window >*HD Capacity 40M --- Area 32<. So it seems the S550 recognizes the HD? To check that out, we'll have to: 6) Menu >Disk/HD Setup/HD Save SYS< and now says >Complete< and states >*HD Capacity 40M --- Area 32<. From now on, the S550 recognizes the drive at startup like in 3), but now states >SCSI check....pass/HD check...parking<. Then go to >Disk Setup/HD Restart< and voila, there is the message >*HD Capacity 40M --- Area 32< again. From now on it's possible to Save and Load like it supposed to do. Getting to the bottom of this: A. How on earth is it possible to use the disk without formatting it first? B. Whatever the reason may be for A., why >*HD Capacity 40M --- Area 32< instead of 80M? After all it's a 88M disk. C. When saved the system to HD like in 6), doing >Disk/Change SYS< says: HD System # 1 [1] S-550 CD-5 System Ver. 1.00 [2] map ? [3] [4] What the hell is the [2]... map? Could this be the Apple partition map??? (Btw: does the [x] stands for the SCSI-chained HD's connected to the S550? If so, how can it be [2] when there is only [1] connected? I really need some feedback here... --============_-1259518114==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" sgroup: S550/SCSI with Syquest 88
After a long (Sy)quest whether compatible or not, I didn't find much about this subject.
I was 'told' by Roland only the 105MB Syquest (will be 80MB formatted) was compatible. In general newsgroups and documentation I found the 44MB was also good, but nobody knew for sure. So I bought the 88MB version because I thought it was the same technology, only 88M (...).

This is what's going on and can't figure out why:

1) I low level format/initialise (not >custom init<) the cart with Apple's 'Drive Setup' from OS8.6. This will install the Apple SCSI driver4.3 amongst the partition map. (I tried to do the same thing with the Syqeust Utility, but this doesn't work for the S550. I also tried to do the >Drive Setup< on a MacOS prior to 8.6 routine, but this makes no difference. At last I tried to do it with the >Apple HD SC Utility< from MacOS7.1, but it doesn't recognize the Syquest at all: guess it's no Apple HD for sure ...

2) I startup the S550 with the cartridge from 1) (drive is ready).

3) When it checks the SCSI-ID in the startup dialog, it states >SCSI check...pass/HD check...HD Unformatted<.

4) First thing I did was the >Disk Setup/HD Format< command: But this is not possible: it starts for a second, but then states in the Menu bar  >HD Unformatted<

And now the strange part:

5) The HD isn't available untill the next >SCSI Check<. When doing so it's possible to >HD Park/Restart Heads<. This works fine. When doing the >Park/Restart< thing, it says in the Menu >HD Unformatted< but down in the main window  >*HD Capacity  40M --- Area 32<. So it seems the S550 recognizes the HD? To check that out, we'll have to:
 
6) Menu >Disk/HD Setup/HD Save SYS< and now says >Complete< and states  >*HD Capacity  40M --- Area 32<.   From now on, the S550 recognizes the drive at startup like in 3), but now states >SCSI check....pass/HD check...parking<. Then go to >Disk Setup/HD Restart< and voila, there is the message >*HD Capacity  40M --- Area 32< again. From now on it's possible to Save and Load like it supposed to do.

Getting to the bottom of this:

A. How on earth is it possible to use the disk without formatting it first?
B. Whatever the reason may be for A., why >*HD Capacity  40M --- Area 32< instead of 80M? After all it's a 88M disk.
C. When saved the system to HD like in 6), doing >Disk/Change SYS< says:

HD System # 1

[1]    S-550  CD-5  System    Ver. 1.00
[2]    map                                     ?
[3]
[4]

What the hell is the [2]... map? Could this be the Apple partition map??? (Btw: does the [x] stands for the SCSI-chained HD's connected to the S550? If so, how can it be [2] when there is only [1] connected?

I really need some feedback here...
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From owner-sgroup Thu Mar 9 07:26:15 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-13151>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:25:59 -0500 Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-13151>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:25:56 -0500 Received: from DUMBO.kapsch.co.at (148.198.8.145) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.1-3 An9h) with ESMTP; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:25:22 +0100 Received: by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 13:25:23 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ullrich Peter To: 'Maurits Jonkergouw' , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: AW: sgroup: S550/SCSI with Syquest 88 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 07:25:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >After a long (Sy)quest whether compatible or not, I didn't find much about this subject. >I was 'told' by Roland only the 105MB Syquest (will be 80MB formatted) was compatible. In general >newsgroups and documentation I found the 44MB was also good, but nobody knew for sure. So I bought the >88MB version because I thought it was the same technology, only 88M (...). I can help you! I also have syquest drives and had the same problem. I tried it with the Syquest 44MB and Syquest 300MB drive (with 300MB and 88MB cartridges). I got the same problems like you when I used the CD5 system version. After trying a few days I wanted to sell my syquest drives... But the last try had success: I used an old system version that had no CD support for formatting and now it works!!! So: Format your cartridges with the old system version (don't know the release number) and after that you can use the cartridges also with the CD5 version! I hope that this will also work for you! Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / ECCN Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Mar 9 11:44:40 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-13152>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:43:42 -0500 Received: from mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com [212.120.66.198]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-13152>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:43:38 -0500 Received: from [212.120.82.160] by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000309164334.ESVA3194.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@[212.120.82.160]> for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:43:34 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mjg-vorm@mail Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:43:31 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Maurits Jonkergouw Subject: sgroup: S-550 systemdisk before CD-5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, this guy Peter Ullrich told me there is a HD system disk for the S-550 before the CD-5 version. This version only support HD's and not CD-ROM drives. I've looked everywhere for this but without succes. Can anybody help me to find this particular system, by tips, links or the SDISK/SMAC/ZIP/DART file itself (the latter)? Remember, it's NOT the S550 CD-5.sit or S550 CD-ROM.sit, but the first ever made, version unknown. I would be VERY gratefull if somebody could help me with this. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Mar 9 14:21:36 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193680-13151>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 14:20:37 -0500 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-13151>; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 14:20:33 -0500 Received: from imp.corp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27653; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from sjspc ([156.151.54.77]) by imp.corp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25663; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:20:24 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'Maurits Jonkergouw'" , Subject: RE: sgroup: S550/SCSI with Syquest 88 Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 14:20:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF89B9.7D6884A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF89B9.7D6884A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Once upon a time there was a third party that made a version of the OS that supported additional drives like the Syquest. Its long since gone now and I can't remember their name. Your best bet is to find someone that is using a Syquest and copy it from them....whatever is working for them. -steve -----Original Message----- From: Maurits Jonkergouw [mailto:swank.inc@home.nl] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 4:20 AM To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup: S550/SCSI with Syquest 88 After a long (Sy)quest whether compatible or not, I didn't find much about this subject. I was 'told' by Roland only the 105MB Syquest (will be 80MB formatted) was compatible. In general newsgroups and documentation I found the 44MB was also good, but nobody knew for sure. So I bought the 88MB version because I thought it was the same technology, only 88M (...). This is what's going on and can't figure out why: 1) I low level format/initialise (not >custom init<) the cart with Apple's 'Drive Setup' from OS8.6. This will install the Apple SCSI driver4.3 amongst the partition map. (I tried to do the same thing with the Syqeust Utility, but this doesn't work for the S550. I also tried to do the >Drive Setup< on a MacOS prior to 8.6 routine, but this makes no difference. At last I tried to do it with the >Apple HD SC Utility< from MacOS7.1, but it doesn't recognize the Syquest at all: guess it's no Apple HD for sure ... 2) I startup the S550 with the cartridge from 1) (drive is ready). 3) When it checks the SCSI-ID in the startup dialog, it states >SCSI check...pass/HD check...HD Unformatted<. 4) First thing I did was the >Disk Setup/HD Format< command: But this is not possible: it starts for a second, but then states in the Menu bar >HD Unformatted< And now the strange part: 5) The HD isn't available untill the next >SCSI Check<. When doing so it's possible to >HD Park/Restart Heads<. This works fine. When doing the >Park/Restart< thing, it says in the Menu >HD Unformatted< but down in the main window >*HD Capacity 40M --- Area 32<. So it seems the S550 recognizes the HD? To check that out, we'll have to: 6) Menu >Disk/HD Setup/HD Save SYS< and now says >Complete< and states >*HD Capacity 40M --- Area 32<. From now on, the S550 recognizes the drive at startup like in 3), but now states >SCSI check....pass/HD check...parking<. Then go to >Disk Setup/HD Restart< and voila, there is the message >*HD Capacity 40M --- Area 32< again. From now on it's possible to Save and Load like it supposed to do. Getting to the bottom of this: A. How on earth is it possible to use the disk without formatting it first? B. Whatever the reason may be for A., why >*HD Capacity 40M --- Area 32< instead of 80M? After all it's a 88M disk. C. When saved the system to HD like in 6), doing >Disk/Change SYS< says: HD System # 1 [1] S-550 CD-5 System Ver. 1.00 [2] map ? [3] [4] What the hell is the [2]... map? Could this be the Apple partition map??? (Btw: does the [x] stands for the SCSI-chained HD's connected to the S550? If so, how can it be [2] when there is only [1] connected? I really need some feedback here... ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01BF89B9.7D6884A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sgroup: S550/SCSI with Syquest 88
Once=20 upon a time there was a third party that made a version of the OS that = supported=20 additional drives like the Syquest.  Its long since gone now and I = can't=20 remember their name.  Your best bet is to find someone that is = using a=20 Syquest and copy it from them....whatever is working for=20 them.
 
-steve
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Maurits Jonkergouw = [mailto:swank.inc@home.nl]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 = 4:20=20 AM
To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca
Subject: sgroup: = S550/SCSI=20 with Syquest 88

After a long (Sy)quest whether compatible or not, I didn't find = much=20 about this subject.
I was 'told' by Roland only the 105MB Syquest (will be 80MB = formatted)=20 was compatible. In general newsgroups and documentation I found the = 44MB was=20 also good, but nobody knew for sure. So I bought the 88MB version = because I=20 thought it was the same technology, only 88M (...).

This is what's going on and can't figure out why:

1) I low level format/initialise (not >custom init<) the = cart with=20 Apple's 'Drive Setup' from OS8.6. This will install the Apple SCSI = driver4.3=20 amongst the partition map. (I tried to do the same thing with the = Syqeust=20 Utility, but this doesn't work for the S550. I also tried to do the = >Drive=20 Setup< on a MacOS prior to 8.6 routine, but this makes no = difference. At=20 last I tried to do it with the >Apple HD SC Utility< from = MacOS7.1, but=20 it doesn't recognize the Syquest at all: guess it's no Apple HD for = sure=20 ...

2) I startup the S550 with the cartridge from 1) (drive is = ready).

3) When it checks the SCSI-ID in the startup dialog, it states = >SCSI=20 check...pass/HD check...HD Unformatted<.

4) First thing I did was the >Disk Setup/HD Format< = command: But=20 this is not possible: it starts for a second, but then states in the = Menu=20 bar  >HD Unformatted<

And now the strange part:

5) The HD isn't available untill the next >SCSI Check<. = When doing=20 so it's possible to >HD Park/Restart Heads<. This works fine. = When doing=20 the >Park/Restart< thing, it says in the Menu >HD = Unformatted< but=20 down in the main window  >*HD Capacity  40M --- Area = 32<. So=20 it seems the S550 recognizes the HD? To check that out, we'll have = to:
 
6) Menu >Disk/HD Setup/HD Save SYS< and now says = >Complete<=20 and states  >*HD Capacity  40M --- Area = 32<.   From=20 now on, the S550 recognizes the drive at startup like in 3), but now = states=20 >SCSI check....pass/HD check...parking<. Then go to >Disk = Setup/HD=20 Restart< and voila, there is the message >*HD Capacity  40M = ---=20 Area 32< again. From now on it's possible to Save and Load like it = supposed=20 to do.

Getting to the bottom of this:

A. How on earth is it possible to use the disk without formatting = it=20 first?
B. Whatever the reason may be for A., why >*HD Capacity  = 40M ---=20 Area 32< instead of 80M? After all it's a 88M disk.
C. When saved the system to HD like in 6), doing >Disk/Change = SYS<=20 says:

HD System # 1

[1]    S-550  CD-5  = System   =20 Ver. 1.00
[2]   =20 = map                                    =20 ?
[3]
[4]

What the hell is the [2]... map? Could this be the Apple = partition map???=20 (Btw: does the [x] stands for the SCSI-chained HD's connected to the = S550? If=20 so, how can it be [2] when there is only [1] connected?

I really need some feedback = here...
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From owner-sgroup Fri Mar 10 02:13:51 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-29015>; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:13:01 -0500 Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-29015>; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 02:12:51 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-26-207.tnt2.me2.uunet.de [149.225.26.207]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id IAA15173 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:12:41 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38C7B3BC.3BEA70BC@cityweb.de> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:22:53 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup RE:Atari Monitor Pinouts References: <20000309030859.25655.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Andrew Petrasiunas wrote: > > I may just be missing this - I have the pinout wiring config for building an > adapter for my colour Atari monitor to my S sampler but could someone please > tell me which pin is number 1 etc.... According to my old Atari User's Manual it is: 4 X X X X 1 8 X X X X 5 12 X X X X 9 X 13 This is the jack viewed from outside (or the plug viewed from solder side). The pin numbers of the RGB jack on Roland samplers are: 7 8 6 3 1 5 4 2 according to the S-330 and S-760 Owner's manuals. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Mar 10 21:36:45 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193682-15866>; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:35:48 -0500 Received: from www.peak.sfu.ca ([142.58.230.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-29015>; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:35:41 -0500 Received: from l33tfux0r (ip44.vancouver5.dialup.canada.psi.net [154.5.128.44]) by www.peak.sfu.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA21228 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:46:54 -0800 Message-Id: <200003110246.SAA21228@www.peak.sfu.ca> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.millenicom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 21:35:33 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Ben Lincoln Subject: sgroup Samplevision video drivers? In-Reply-To: <200003012340_MC2-9B6A-450F@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi. Would any of you out in Sgroup land who use the DOS 2.0 version of Samplevision be able to help me out by sending me the video drivers and configuration file (Basically everything that ends in .SYS from disk 1 - should be about 200k zipped maximum)? Please? I'd be eternally grateful. I have the rest of the program, just not the dang GEM video drivers. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Mar 12 06:54:21 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-13721>; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 06:53:42 -0500 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-13720>; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 06:53:38 -0500 Received: from Blacknblux@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id 6.17.2d529e1 (3972) for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 06:53:34 -0500 (EST) From: Blacknblux@aol.com Message-ID: <17.2d529e1.25fcdf3e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 06:53:34 -0500 Subject: sgroup test To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk ... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Mar 12 06:58:18 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-13721>; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 06:58:05 -0500 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.69]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-13721>; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 06:57:58 -0500 Received: from Blacknblux@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id 6.b2.27cf89b (3972) for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 06:57:53 -0500 (EST) From: Blacknblux@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 06:57:53 -0500 Subject: sgroup Roland S-750 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 67 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have a roland S-750 sampler which is basically a 770 minus digital and balanced outs I believe. Recent I had to replace the recording level Pot and from what i can tell I did it successfully. One thing that has me confused. When your monitoring while sampling... if your sampling from a mono source does the sound only come out in mono... or one side of a set of speakers.. or headphones? I can't remember. Ive had this sampler for 5 years yet I can't remember. Can anyone help? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Mar 13 06:12:50 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-27027>; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:11:38 -0500 Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-27027>; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:11:31 -0500 Received: from DUMBO.kapsch.co.at (148.198.8.145) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.1-3 An9h) with ESMTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:11:04 +0100 Received: by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:11:06 +0100 Message-ID: From: Ullrich Peter To: 'Maurits Jonkergouw' , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: AW: sgroup: S-550 systemdisk before CD-5 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:11:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Hi, this guy Peter Ullrich told me there is a HD system disk for the >S-550 before the CD-5 version. This version only support HD's and not >CD-ROM drives. I've looked everywhere for this but without succes. >Can anybody help me to find this particular system, by tips, links or >the SDISK/SMAC/ZIP/DART file itself (the latter)? >Remember, it's NOT the S550 CD-5.sit or S550 CD-ROM.sit, but the >first ever made, version unknown. > >I would be VERY gratefull if somebody could help me with this. I made an image with Sdisk V1.1 and put it on my webspace at Geocities. You can download the zipped image from here: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/s550_hd5_if.zip Remember that there is no link from the music-page - you have to you the link above!!! Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: http://come.to/ullrich or the full link http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / ECCN Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. 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Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:41:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I just use the video-in on my TEAC portable T.V. I have heard of using a video card with an S-video in socket so you can use your computer monitor by splitting the screen.e.g Cubase in one view whilst you have the S-760 view in the background. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Mar 15 11:29:27 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-22679>; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:25:55 -0500 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-22679>; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:25:39 -0500 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm [196.3.0.2]) by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA24207 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:24:07 -0500 (GMT+5:00) Received: by minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.1) id LAA04647; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:24:39 -0500 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 11:25:19 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: sgroup small hard drives for sale? Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, it seems that after six years my 365MB hard drive attached to my s-760 is starting to give problems....... does anyone know any store on the net which may have small drives (1GB or less) external drives on clearance......most places have 2GB and larger that I have seen and it just burns my heart to buy a 2GB and not be able to use over 60% of it..... thanks, rsp richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Mar 21 19:18:27 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-14195>; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:14:54 -0500 Received: from smtp.inreach.com ([209.142.0.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-14195>; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:14:48 -0500 Received: from garytittle (209-142-33-148.stk.inreach.net [209.142.33.148]) by smtp.inreach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA21961 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:15:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Gary Tittle" To: Subject: sgroup Clicks and Pops on sdisk samples Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:08:31 -0500 Message-ID: <001601bf9392$c1dc1ec0$6f2b8ed1@garytittle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi - My sampler produces clicks and pops (vs 2.0 OS) when I sdisk the | samples onto formatted 720K diskettes. I have tried both vs 1.1; and 1.0 vs | of Sdisk. Any ideas or enlightenment about how to eliminate the clicks and | pops? | | Thanks. | | gtittle@inreach.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Mar 21 19:18:45 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-8296>; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:17:55 -0500 Received: from mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com [24.64.2.50]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-8296>; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:17:52 -0500 Received: from CS147358-B ([24.64.76.48]) by mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <20000322001743.EYDJ3579.mail.rdc1.ab.home.com@CS147358-B> for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:17:43 -0800 Message-ID: <000101bf9393$98481680$304c4018@CS147358-B.cgws1.ab.wave.home.com> From: "Mike Baugh" To: Subject: sgroup S-760 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:14:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hey there, i'm trying to find a way to be able to patch sample loop end time to pitchbend or some other controller...i've heard talk about hacker modes and sysex etc... but don't really know where to start...any help would be moochos appreciated. thanks------>mIkE The People Under the Stairs www.underthestairs.cjb.net - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Mar 21 20:47:58 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-8296>; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:44:44 -0500 Received: from shove.edfac.unimelb.edu.au ([128.250.151.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-8296>; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:44:34 -0500 Received: from sirbelec.edfac.unimelb.edu.au ([128.250.151.64] ident=voytekl) by shove.edfac.unimelb.edu.au with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12XaBW-0003Sl-00; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 11:43:46 +1000 Content-Length: 1204 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.4 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000101bf9393$98481680$304c4018@CS147358-B.cgws1.ab.wave.home.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:43:46 -0500 From: Voytek Lapinski To: Mike Baugh Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On 22-Mar-2000 Mike Baugh wrote: > i'm trying to find a way to be able to patch sample loop end time to > pitchbend or some other controller...i've heard talk about hacker modes and > sysex etc... but don't really know where to start...any help would be > moochos appreciated. this is just completely off the top of my head so could be completely stupid, but... you could set up a few copies of the same sample but with different end times and then use whatever controller you like to do the SMT thing in the partial. Not much resolution (only 4 samples can be mapped between i think) but it would work. This is such a cool feature. Last thing I used it for was using mod wheel to control how distorted a sound was. Had like this clean simple rhythmic sample but as you increase modulation, it just starts freaking out and distorting all over the place. And the fact that the s760 will interpolate between the samples meant I only had to use two: one clean, one completely fucked and it worked well. i don't think theres any way to do what you want to do directly, unless its some sort of weird hidden feature which I doubt. Be a cool feature though. Very cool. Start time would be nice too. voytek. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Mar 22 03:51:49 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-26986>; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 03:48:36 -0500 Received: from asylum.carrot.com.au ([61.8.0.66]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26986>; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 03:48:33 -0500 Received: from parrot.cairead.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asylum.carrot.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14658 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 19:49:18 +1100 (EST) Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06602 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:49:27 GMT Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id IAA13946 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:50:44 GMT Message-Id: <200003220850.IAA13946@uv.cairead.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Clicks and Pops on sdisk samples In-Reply-To: <001601bf9392$c1dc1ec0$6f2b8ed1@garytittle> from Gary Tittle at "Mar 21, 2000 07:08:31 pm" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 03:50:44 -0500 From: nic@carrot.com.au (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j} Hi - My sampler produces clicks and pops (vs 2.0 OS) when I sdisk the => | samples onto formatted 720K diskettes. I have tried both vs 1.1; and 1.0 => vs => | of Sdisk. Any ideas or enlightenment about how to eliminate the clicks => and => | pops? I have not head of this one before. sdisk does not read/interpret the sample data itself. It operates only on the disk sector level. I suppose that a badly read/written sector could result in a click or a pop, but there would usually be an error reading the disk if that was the case. I also think that a bad sector would be more of a blast than just a click or a pop, so it sounds like a software error somewhere rather than a corrupted sector problem. Maybe the diskette drive that is being used to write the .out file to the floppy is problematic in that it is corrupting data as it gets sent. I doubt this, as these things have CRC checks and bad data usually gets picked up. Without having a detailed report of exactly what you are doing, I can't really say, but it is unlikely to be something that can be fixed in sdisk. Of course maybe the clicks and pops are just in the source samples anyway or due to a convert load? ;-) Regards, Nic. -- Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@cairead.com, +353 872 300 914 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Mar 22 04:02:36 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-26986>; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 03:59:33 -0500 Received: from smtp6.jps.net ([216.119.0.86]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26986>; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 03:59:29 -0500 Received: from xevserver (209-239-213-188.lax.jps.net [209.239.213.188]) by smtp6.jps.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA01913 for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:59:18 -0800 (PST) From: "James Thomas" To: Subject: sgroup Roland Sample Archive CD Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 03:58:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01bf93dc$dbc0d840$0100a8c0@xevserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200003220850.IAA13946@uv.cairead.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Whatever happened to the idea of a Roland Sample Archive CD? I'd fork over the $10!... ____________________________________________ James W. Thomas ZVSMedia.com - Music/Video Entertainment Now in Our Online Store: (http://zvsmedia.com) -Progressive Metal from animalFarm -Metal/Industrial from Nation of Lies: *Seeking Vocalists/Lyricists in So. Cal.* - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Mar 22 13:24:54 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-26986>; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:24:17 -0500 Received: from mail.grove.ufl.edu ([128.227.8.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-26986>; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:24:06 -0500 Received: from palm.grove.ufl.edu (hotrod@palm-f [10.5.102.11]) by mail.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/h2) with ESMTP id NAA10642; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by palm.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/c1) with ESMTP id NAA09122; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:23:58 -0500 (EST) Comments: NAA09122 on palm (hop 0), Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:23:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:23:58 -0500 From: mike p X-Sender: hotrod@palm To: Mike Baugh cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 In-Reply-To: <000101bf9393$98481680$304c4018@CS147358-B.cgws1.ab.wave.home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > i'm trying to find a way to be able to patch sample loop end time to > pitchbend or some other controller...i've heard talk about hacker modes and > sysex etc... but don't really know where to start...any help would be > moochos appreciated. you could do it, but itd take some serious hardware/software creation (as far as most people are concerned, serious) the back of my s-330 manual is a list of all sysex commands. there is a sysex command to set the sample endpoint. im not shure but i think you have to be in the loop edit screen for it to work, even still. i was thinking about building a box covered with knobs and slider to control all aspects of my sampler by sysex. but when i started thinking about how much work it would be and the limited benefits over rc-100/mouse.. arg. too much work another thing that came to my attention is that the s-330 is able to be switched into monphonic mode, but there is no way to do it thru the sampler's interface, only by sysex. (?!) anyone ever try this? (i didnt see any other functions in sysex that arent available normaly.) m - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Mar 25 03:58:13 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-12473>; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:52:51 -0500 Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193675-12472>; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:52:36 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-25-185.tnt1.me2.uunet.de [149.225.25.185]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id JAA29425 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:52:28 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38DB3952.24E69F05@cityweb.de> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:46:05 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Akai conversion fun Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, recently I got my first experiences with converting a CD-ROM in Akai S1000 format (BTW this was "The complete Gamelan" by Propeller Island, nice samples). This is SLOW! It took several days to convert the whole CD. And tons of Partials are created. The Akai doesn't seem to have anything like a Partial, so the S-760's conversion routine creates the Partials on its own. Because of the huge number of Partials the complete Akai CD-ROM didn't fit onto one Roland medium (hard disk or CD-ROM), which holds only 4096 Partials. I had to use two, and still this was only possible after I sorted out a lot of dupe Partials. I used SoundDiver to find out the dupes, but it was still a lot of work. A bug showed up in the conversion routine. On the Partial SMT screen, the coarse and fine tune parameters of the second Sample are sometimes completely wrong. Sometimes the coarse tune was even out of the normally possible range of +/- 48 semitones. Anyone else ever noticed this? However, to save time, I tried to correct the tune values in "Edit Partial"/"Global" mode (via "Com"/"Edit Partial" from a Patch edit screen). In Global mode all Partials used by one Patch can be edited simultaneously this way. Now something really nasty happened: when the coarse tune was out of range, the Partial turned into kind of a zombie, it played one sample after the other, or sometimes ugly noises, instead of the selected second sample. Changing the Sample on the SMT screen didn't change anything about that. This did not happen when the Partial was edited in "Single" mode. Anyway, I didn't realise what had happened before I had saved a lot of these Partials. The zombie behaviour was saved along with the other partial parameters! It seemed I had to re-convert all that stuff from the original Akai disk again, but then I found out that the zombie behaviour was even contained in the Partial's Sysex parameters. There are Partial parameters called "Sub-Sample Parameter enable" (one for each Sample) which apparently always have to be 0, but weren't after editing the corrupted Partials in Global mode. Whatever these parameters might be good for, they aren't editable on the S-760 itself, but I extended the SoundDiver S-760 adaptation to re-set these to 0 again. Then the Partials played the Samples correctly. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Mar 25 03:58:16 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-12472>; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:52:51 -0500 Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-12473>; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 03:52:36 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-25-185.tnt1.me2.uunet.de [149.225.25.185]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id JAA29412 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 09:52:25 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38DB2F73.FDA94C35@cityweb.de> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 04:03:54 -0500 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 References: <000101bf9393$98481680$304c4018@CS147358-B.cgws1.ab.wave.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Mike Baugh wrote: > i'm trying to find a way to be able to patch sample loop end time to > pitchbend or some other controller...i've heard talk about hacker modes and > sysex etc... but don't really know where to start...any help would be > moochos appreciated. Of course the loop and end points can be controlled via Sysex, but on the S-760 it seems the sample which is actually playing is not affected. Only after the next Note-On the changes are audible. So it's not of much use for real time sound control. :-( However, things are different on the S-330. Here the changes in loop or end point are audible immediately. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Mar 29 22:37:44 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-27514>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:36:04 -0500 Received: from lanshark.lanminds.com ([208.25.68.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-27513>; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:35:51 -0500 Received: from [208.25.89.136] (fence35.ppp.lmi.net [208.25.89.136]) by lanshark.lanminds.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA06072 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:35:43 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: froggy@pop.lmi.net Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:35:36 -0500 To: From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup DJ-70 mkII OS updating Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any experience updating the OS ROM of a DJ-70 mkII? I want to buy a used DJ-70 mkII but it has the outdated OS 1.00. The current version out there is 1.02. Where could I get the latest version? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Chris (a strong believer in the S760) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Mar 31 23:20:57 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-7555>; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:19:06 -0500 Received: from duval.se.mediaone.net ([24.129.0.67]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-7554>; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:18:56 -0500 Received: from Recorder (surf112-51-225.jacksonville.net [24.129.51.225]) by duval.se.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA23078 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:18:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <010f01bf9b92$793af260$6401a8c0@Recorder.mediaone.net> From: "Micheal Goins" To: Subject: sgroup S-330 Sysex Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:26:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I was watching the sysex data from a S-330 and noticed strange things. I don't have a manual to to verify, but every manipulation on the machine spits out sysex data. Even simple cursor movements. Could this mean that the RC-100 controller is really a pre-programmed sysex box? What I'm getting out in midi data is a mirror of what's going in by mouse and RC-100? BTW, I'm messing with a Peavey PC-1600x and was thinking about trying to use it to change parameters of the S-330 in real-time. Anyone tried this? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.