From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 9 05:33:39 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-10829>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:31:31 -0400 Received: from hpamgaaa.compuserve.com (ah-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.217.154]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-10829>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:31:16 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamgaaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-1.8) id FAA07670 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:30:38 -0400 From: dennis barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> Subject: sgroup WTB s770 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <199909090531_MC2-8427-7911@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'm looking for an s770. Should have 16 meg and be working fine. Cosmetics not that important. Anyone? |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 9 05:39:16 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-10829>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:38:52 -0400 Received: from xor.aubonne.virtua.ch (virtua.sefanet.ch [195.202.225.253]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-10829>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:38:51 -0400 Received: from leguman ([192.168.1.120]) by xor.aubonne.virtua.ch (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA18983; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:44:19 +0200 Message-ID: <001901befaa7$68453100$7801a8c0@aubonne.virtua.ch> From: "Marcel Prisi" To: "dennis barton" <70531.2124@compuserve.com> Cc: References: <199909090531_MC2-8427-7911@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: sgroup WTB s770 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:40:52 -0400 Organization: Virtua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi !! I have an S-770 with 20Megs and 40Mb int. HD, latest System software to sell, 100% working. I could even bundle an RC-100 with it ! How much would you buy it ? What would be an honest price ? I live in Switzerland ... Best Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: dennis barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> To: Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 11:30 AM Subject: sgroup WTB s770 > > I'm looking for an s770. > > Should have 16 meg and be working fine. Cosmetics not that important. > > Anyone? > > |_e_/~ Dennis Barton > ) skylab2000 > ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles > / http://skylab2000.com > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 9 07:49:48 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-10830>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:49:20 -0400 Received: from mb07.swip.net ([193.12.122.211]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-10830>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:49:13 -0400 Received: from ag001500 (d212-151-231-216.swipnet.se [212.151.231.216]) by mb07.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01568 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:49:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <002a01befab7$fbc05e40$8bf497d4@ag001500> Reply-To: "BoomBoom" From: "BoomBoom" To: Subject: sgroup S220 Sysex Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 07:39:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01BEFAC8.BE5E3200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BEFAC8.BE5E3200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do i send sysex from an S220? ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01BEFAC8.BE5E3200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 10 03:55:56 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-28312>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:55:27 -0400 Received: from xor.aubonne.virtua.ch (virtua.sefanet.ch [195.202.225.253]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-28312>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:55:17 -0400 Received: from leguman ([192.168.1.120]) by xor.aubonne.virtua.ch (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA22215 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:01:25 +0200 Message-ID: <001b01befb62$25298f40$7801a8c0@aubonne.virtua.ch> From: "Marcel Prisi" To: Subject: sgroup S-770 & RAM Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:57:35 -0400 Organization: Virtua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all of you ... Following the last e-mails, I have to explain the situation. My S-770 came fitted with 4Mb of RAM (on the motherboard). I then added 4*4Mb SIMMS on a daughterboard, which gives me 20 Mb. The thing is, my S770 can only detects and uses 18Mb out of it (204.5 secs) ... Marcel Prisi Agence Virtua [ web publishing ] AV Général Boinod 10 1170 Aubonne - Suisse > www.virtua.ch - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 10 04:33:32 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-28312>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:33:00 -0400 Received: from spdmgaab.compuserve.com (ds-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.206.135]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-28312>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:32:54 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.5) id EAA15884; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:32:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:32:07 -0400 From: dennis barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> Subject: sgroup S-770 & RAM To: Marcel Prisi , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <199909100432_MC2-8457-82D5@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Following the last e-mails, I have to explain the situation. My S-770 came >fitted with 4Mb of RAM (on the motherboard). I then added 4*4Mb SIMMS o= n a >daughterboard, which gives me 20 Mb. The thing is, my S770 can only detects >and uses 18Mb out of it (204.5 secs) ... I just looked at an s770 manual. It says that they have 2mb on the motherboard and that the RAS 770 expansion board has 14 slots for 1 meg each. Thats 16meg. Can you really use 4 meg SIMMS and get 18 meg? I thought the s750 allowed= 18 meg but not the s770. Do you have a different setup than my manual states? |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 10 05:35:13 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-28311>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:34:01 -0400 Received: from nordpol.dbf.ddb.de ([193.175.100.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-28311>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:33:55 -0400 Received: from poppix.dbf.ddb.de (poppix.dbf.ddb.de [193.175.99.21]) by nordpol.dbf.ddb.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA24185 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:33:45 +0200 Received: from f-ntws-01349 (f-nt40-01349.dbf.ddb.de [193.175.99.73]) by poppix.dbf.ddb.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA11948 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:32:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199909100932.LAA11948@poppix.dbf.ddb.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Thomas Seidel" Organization: Die Deutsche Bibliothek To: Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:33:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sgroup S220 Sysex In-reply-to: <002a01befab7$fbc05e40$8bf497d4@ag001500> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54DE) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > > How do i send sysex from an S220? > The following text is from my handbook, my poor S220 has some problems with the disk drive :-(((( First make sure that sysex is enabled (midi button, fwd until "midi:common exclusive=on"). Edited parameters will be sent if you press the save(?) button. To dump the sampled data of a structure, select the structure, press f1, midi, and change the mode to "one way mode". Then press enter. Hope this helps -- Thomas - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 10 23:42:07 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193687-8990>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:41:12 -0400 Received: from spamgaae.compuserve.com (as-img-5.compuserve.com [149.174.217.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-26764>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:41:08 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaae.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.5) id XAA02499 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:40:56 -0400 From: dennis barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> Subject: sgroup s750?? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <199909102340_MC2-8465-94F@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'm looking for an s770, but may settle for a s750. = I wonder if anyone knows any differences? What I know. = s750, more memory (18 meg), s770, 16meg. s750, no hard drive. s750, no digtal outs I assume I can create stuff on the 750, and then put it on a ZIP disk whi= ch = will load right into an s770, right? I'd like to have a s750 that will boot up and load files right from a ZIP= = disk, without me doing anything. Will the s750 do this? Does is even have= = SCSI? (The 770 boots up, loads the OS, and then loads all the samples) Lastly, anyone have an s770 or s750 for sale or know where a store where = a used one is? Thanks |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 12 04:50:12 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193711-8911>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:43:27 -0400 Received: from mail3.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.21]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-8911>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:43:20 -0400 Received: from 62.52.145.158 (dtm8-m145-158.pool.cww.de [62.52.145.158]) by mail3.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id KAA28159 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:43:10 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37DA68B6.1793@cityweb.de> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:35:34 -0400 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cityweb.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s750?? References: <199909102340_MC2-8465-94F@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dennis barton wrote: > > I'm looking for an s770, but may settle for a s750. Is there some reason why you don't consider a S-760? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 12 06:35:17 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-8911>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:34:22 -0400 Received: from vasquez.zip.com.au ([203.12.97.41]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-8911>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:34:19 -0400 Received: from ratbert.netbert (dialup437.wr.com.au [203.12.42.137]) by vasquez.zip.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA00371 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:20:55 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199909121020.UAA00371@vasquez.zip.com.au> From: "Bernie Maier" To: "Roland Samplers List" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 03:29:55 -0400 Reply-To: "Bernie Maier" X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 Evaluation Version For OS/2 (Unregistered) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sgroup s750?? Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dennis barton wrote: >I'm looking for an s770, but may settle for a s750. > >I wonder if anyone knows any differences? > >What I know. >s750, more memory (18 meg), s770, 16meg. I thought they both did up to 18Mb. >s750, no hard drive. >s750, no digtal outs > >I assume I can create stuff on the 750, and then put it on a ZIP disk which >will load right into an s770, right? > >I'd like to have a s750 that will boot up and load files right from a ZIP >disk, without me doing anything. Will the s750 do this? Does is even have >SCSI? I'm pretty sure both the 770 and the 750 have SCSI. I'm also pretty sure they use the same OS, so you should be able to boot and load files as you describe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "the Church had proof that when someone played a tritone, someone else got sodomized. 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From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 12 13:23:15 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193711-8911>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:22:35 -0400 Received: from pluto.nic.fi (nic.fi [193.209.220.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-8911>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:22:29 -0400 Received: from electron-1 (cvx-1-172.dyn.nic.fi [62.236.97.172]) by pluto.nic.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA16252 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:22:32 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990912202430.007966c0@gamma.nic.fi> X-Sender: electron@gamma.nic.fi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:24:30 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: vt@nic.fi Subject: sgroup sound cd's for s700 series Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk What is the cheapest way to get Roland sample archives cd's for s700 series? Is there some place on the net which is selling those? Any used one's available ? Would someone sell cd-r versions ? Or even better, is there somewhere a site on the net which contains image files of these cd's for download? You can also answer private. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 12 16:33:43 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193711-8912>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:32:50 -0400 Received: from ziggy.wwnet.net ([209.142.193.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-8912>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:32:47 -0400 Received: from wwnet.net (max5-184.pontiac.usabestnet.net [209.142.225.184]) by ziggy.wwnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20875; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:32:47 -0400 Message-ID: <37DABC1D.DF3A0EB7@wwnet.net> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:31:25 -0400 From: "Javier M. Barrios" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vt@nic.fi CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup sound cd's for s700 series References: <3.0.6.32.19990912202430.007966c0@gamma.nic.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have been trying to get all s-group users together and try to make a compilation of all of the s-group samples. including s-50, s-550, s-330, w-30, s-700 series and maybe the dj-70 series. If you want to contribute drop me a line. Javier Barrios Michigan USA vt@nic.fi wrote: > What is the cheapest way to get Roland sample archives cd's for s700 series? > Is there some place on the net which is selling those? Any used one's > available ? > Would someone sell cd-r versions ? Or even better, is there somewhere a > site on the net which contains image files of these cd's for download? > > You can also answer private. > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 12 21:17:07 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-8911>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:16:15 -0400 Received: from hpamgaaa.compuserve.com (ah-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.217.154]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-8911>; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:16:05 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamgaaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-1.8) id VAA26672; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:16:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:15:46 -0400 From: dennis barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> Subject: sgroup s750?? To: Bernie Maier , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <199909122115_MC2-8496-D7F5@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >>What I know. >s750, more memory (18 meg), s770, 16meg. > >I thought they both did up to 18Mb. No 770 is 16 meg according to teh manual, although soemone claim to have = 20 meg of 4meg chips in theirs. The manual says you can only use 16, 1 meg simms. >I'm pretty sure both the 770 and the 750 have SCSI. I'm also pretty su= re >they use the same OS, so you should be able to boot and load files as y= ou >describe. I want to know if the 750 will boot from a ZIP drive, but so far no one h= as chimed in an answer. Anyone? |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 06:01:32 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193735-24037>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:00:05 -0400 Received: from mime2.cpr.fr ([193.57.80.69]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24037>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 05:59:50 -0400 Received: from uhura (unverified) by mime.cpr.fr (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; lun., 13 sept. 1999 10:53:15 +0200 Received: by serv-hermes.systeme.cpr.fr with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:51:38 +0200 Message-Id: <5BF932D2CD05D211B54800805FE60FEB042E5AF5@serv-hermes.systeme.cpr.fr> From: PAPADACCI Alexandre To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup s750?? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:51:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEFDC5.30D78949" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFDC5.30D78949 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" denis barton wrote : >I'm looking for an s770, but may settle for a s750. > I wonder if anyone knows any differences? > What I know. > s750, more memory (18 meg), s770, 16meg. > s750, no hard drive. > s750, no digtal outs >From what I remember the S770 has balanced analog I/Os whereas the S750 has unbalanced ones. Except from this difference and the ones you quoted, the two machines are dead ringers... Alex ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFDC5.30D78949 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: sgroup s750??

denis barton wrote :

>I'm looking for an s770, but may settle for a s750.

> I wonder if anyone knows any differences?

> What I know.
> s750, more memory (18 meg), s770, 16meg.
> s750, no hard drive.
> s750, no digtal outs

From what I remember the S770 has balanced analog I/Os whereas the S750 has unbalanced ones.

Except from this difference and the ones you quoted, the two machines are dead ringers...


Alex

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFDC5.30D78949-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 06:19:51 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193735-24037>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:19:25 -0400 Received: from mime2.cpr.fr ([193.57.80.69]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24037>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:19:21 -0400 Received: from uhura (unverified) by mime.cpr.fr (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; lun., 13 sept. 1999 11:19:16 +0200 Received: by serv-hermes.systeme.cpr.fr with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) id ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:17:43 +0200 Message-Id: <5BF932D2CD05D211B54800805FE60FEB042E5AF6@serv-hermes.systeme.cpr.fr> From: PAPADACCI Alexandre To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup sound cd's for s700 series Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 05:17:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.10) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEFDC8.D50E23EE" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFDC8.D50E23EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" vt wrote : >What is the cheapest way to get Roland sample archives cd's for s700 series? >Is there some place on the net which is selling those? Any used one's >available ? >Would someone sell cd-r versions ? Or even better, is there somewhere a >site on the net which contains image files of these cd's for download? The problem of finding sounds for the S700 series is indeed a big deal. I live in France and very few roland samplers were sold here. That's why CD-ROM retailers have very few Roland CD-ROMs. Moreover, one can't listen to them before buying since there are no Roland samplers in the shop... Only Akais... That's why I think that would be great if anyone on the list could post the names of the CD-ROMS he uses (with the editor name if possible) with a comment about the kind of sounds they contain and about their quality. That way I could buy them from my retailer, or directly from internet... Thanks a lot to anyone in advance... Alex PS. By the way, in order to get more compatibility, RAM and polyphony I'm planning to complete my setup with a used Akai S6000 (128 MB RAM, EB20, 16 outs) and a used E-mu E-SYNTH (128 MB RAM) for a total for $3500. Any opinions about these machines, their user-friendlyness, sounds and prices ?? ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFDC8.D50E23EE Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: sgroup sound cd's for s700 series

vt wrote :

>What is the cheapest way to get Roland sample = archives cd's for s700 series?
>Is there some place on the net which is selling = those? Any used one's
>available ?
>Would someone sell cd-r versions ? Or even = better, is there somewhere a
>site on the net which contains image files of = these cd's for download?

The problem of finding sounds for the S700 series is = indeed a big deal. I live in France and very few roland samplers were = sold here. That's why CD-ROM retailers have very few Roland CD-ROMs. = Moreover, one can't listen to them before buying since there are no = Roland samplers in the shop... Only Akais...

That's why I think that would be great if anyone on = the list could post the names of the CD-ROMS he uses (with the editor = name if possible) with a comment about the kind of sounds they contain = and about their quality. That way I could buy them from my retailer, or = directly from internet...

Thanks a lot to anyone in advance...

Alex


PS. By the way, in order to get more compatibility, = RAM and polyphony I'm planning to complete my setup with a used Akai = S6000 (128 MB RAM, EB20, 16 outs) and a used E-mu E-SYNTH (128 MB RAM) = for a total for $3500. Any opinions about these machines, their = user-friendlyness, sounds and prices ??

------_=_NextPart_001_01BEFDC8.D50E23EE-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 09:11:56 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193735-24038>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:11:09 -0400 Received: from mail02.rapidsite.net ([207.158.192.68]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-24038>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:11:03 -0400 Received: from www.sampleheads.com (207.158.245.187) by mail02.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.5) with SMTP is 2147426236 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: sgroup s750?? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:11:00 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Loop-Detect: 1 Message-Id: <1999Sep13.091103edt.193671-24038@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I want to know if the 750 will boot from a ZIP drive, but so far no one has >chimed in an answer. Anyone? We boot S-760's from zip, so give it a try, i'd guess it will. jr - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 13:24:04 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-24038>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:23:16 -0400 Received: from mbox-1.inet.fi ([192.89.123.189]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24038>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:23:05 -0400 Received: from user-248-64.dial.inet.fi ([212.213.248.64]:1096 "HELO eskora1") by mbox-1.inet.fi with SMTP id ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:22:40 +0300 Message-ID: <001f01befe0c$df259f40$40f8d5d4@eskora1> From: "Illusion Rake" To: "sgroup" Subject: sgroup When will the NEW Roland sampler come? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:24:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEFE26.040E2200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEFE26.040E2200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody know of that? Any rumours? SV-7700 or what it was? A colleague of mine (E-MU enthusiastic, btw) read from some sample cd or = cd-rom a comment by sound designer Eric Persing...it could be understood so, = that he has used Da Machine already in his work, and the Hour is at hand... Rauli Illusion Rake producer I n k F i s h Helsinki, Finland ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEFE26.040E2200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Does anybody know of that? Any rumours? SV-7700 or what it = was?
 
A colleague of mine (E-MU enthusiastic, btw) read from some sample = cd or=20 cd-rom
a comment by sound designer Eric Persing...it could be understood = so, that=20 he has used
Da Machine already in his work, and the Hour is at hand...
 
Rauli
 
Illusion Rake
producer
I  n  k F i s h
Helsinki, Finland
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BEFE26.040E2200-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 13:41:21 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-24038>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:40:43 -0400 Received: from mail07.rapidsite.net ([207.158.192.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-24038>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:40:40 -0400 Received: from www.sampleheads.com (207.158.245.187) by mail07.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.5) with SMTP is 2147426268 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: sgroup When will the NEW Roland sampler come? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:40:23 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "sgroup" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Loop-Detect: 1 Message-Id: <1999Sep13.134040edt.193671-24038@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Does anybody know of that? Any rumours? SV-7700 or what it was? It does not exist. jr - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 14:17:59 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-24038>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:17:25 -0400 Received: from zoesis.com ([208.229.10.254]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24037>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:17:11 -0400 Received: from triton (triton.zoesis.com [208.229.10.219]) by zoesis.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA61499 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990913141537.009f1620@zoesis.com> X-Sender: mike@zoesis.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:15:37 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Mike Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup When will the NEW Roland sampler come? In-Reply-To: <1999Sep13.134040edt.193671-24038@hugin.uunet.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 01:40 PM 9/13/99 -0400, you wrote: >>Does anybody know of that? Any rumours? SV-7700 or what it was? > >It does not exist. Is this something about which you're certain? I'm about to (tearfully) abandon the S-760 forever (probably for an EMU... I've read that they can read Roland samples!), but would stay my hand if I thought a successor was coming out eventually. Mike - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 14:21:10 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-24038>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:20:51 -0400 Received: from mail07.rapidsite.net ([207.158.192.51]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-24038>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:20:44 -0400 Received: from www.sampleheads.com (207.158.245.187) by mail07.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.5) with SMTP is 2147426268 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: sgroup When will the NEW Roland sampler come? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:20:18 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Loop-Detect: 1 Message-Id: <1999Sep13.142044edt.193671-24038@hugin.uunet.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I'm about to (tearfully) >abandon the S-760 forever I'll buy yours if you want to sell. jr - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 17:07:37 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-24037>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:06:57 -0400 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24037>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:06:46 -0400 Received: from grifgraf.demon.co.uk ([194.222.88.198]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11QdJD-0008Uc-0A for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:06:44 +0000 Message-ID: <37DBFAD5.DA92067F@grifgraf.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:11:23 -0400 From: Pete Reply-To: pete@grifgraf.demon.co.uk Organization: grifgraf X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Samplers List Subject: Re: sgroup s750?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Dennis Your summary is correct - 18 meg, no hard drive, digital outs. The S750 does have SCSI, and it uses the same system software as the 770. The 770, in any case, only had something weedy like a 40 meg internal hard drive. Don't forget there was also that other 'sampler' they did that was like an S770 but playback only. Can't remember the model number, but one thing I do remember was it had much more memory - up to 32 meg I think. I don't know what your setup is but that might be useful if you're supplementing a Roland sampler-based setup... if you could ever find one! Can't help thinking that Ingo's suggestion of the S760 is quite good though... Pete Griffin Dennis Barton murmured gently... > I'm looking for an s770, but may settle for a s750. > > I wonder if anyone knows any differences? > > What I know. > s750, more memory (18 meg), s770, 16meg. > s750, no hard drive. > s750, no digtal outs > > I assume I can create stuff on the 750, and then put it on a ZIP disk which > will load right into an s770, right? > > I'd like to have a s750 that will boot up and load files right from a ZIP > disk, without me doing anything. Will the s750 do this? Does is even have > SCSI? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 17:34:19 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-24682>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:34:02 -0400 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24682>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:33:52 -0400 Received: from grifgraf.demon.co.uk ([194.222.88.198]) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11QdjJ-000Be8-0A for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:33:41 +0000 Message-ID: <37DD6F63.F61C679F@grifgraf.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:40:59 -0400 From: Pete Reply-To: pete@grifgraf.demon.co.uk Organization: grifgraf X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s750?? References: <199909122115_MC2-8496-D7F5@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dennis barton wrote: > I want to know if the 750 will boot from a ZIP drive, but so far no one has > chimed in an answer. Anyone? Oh I see. Well, my S750 will and indeed does boot from a Syquest EZ-Drive, and the last software upgrade that I collected from Roland's website mentioned adding support for Zip drives. That's as close as I come to a straight answer... Pete - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 18:55:12 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-24037>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:54:42 -0400 Received: from Bespin.worldnet.net (bespin.worldnet.net [195.3.3.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24037>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:54:32 -0400 Received: from angeline (wn18-247.paris.worldnet.fr [195.3.18.247]) by Bespin.worldnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04849 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:49:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909132249.AAA04849@Bespin.worldnet.net> From: "Nicolas Fournel" To: Subject: sgroup S760 US/Europe Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:55:33 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi ! Is the same S760 compatible with both 60Hz and 50Hz? I will move from Europe to US at the end of the month and would like to know if a simple transformer (220V<->110V) will allow me to use my S760 over there. Thanks for your help. Nicolas. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 21:19:53 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193681-24682>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:19:18 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24682>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:19:13 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm [196.3.0.2]) by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA06316; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:12:13 -0400 (GMT+4:00) Received: by minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00649; Mon, 13 Sep 99 12:49:35-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1999Sep13.142044edt.193671-24038@hugin.uunet.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:31:02 -0400 To: Jeremy Roberts From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup When will the NEW Roland sampler come? Cc: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 1:20 PM -0500 13/9/99, Jeremy Roberts wrote: >>I'm about to (tearfully) >>abandon the S-760 forever > >I'll buy yours if you want to sell. > >jr > hmmmmmm..... a few years ago.. jeremy reported in this group that he had seen the new one in a back room for special people in namm winter I believe 98.....but he wasn't allowed to give specs.... now if he is buying another s-760 it may suggest that roland has abandoned the new sampler... else I assume jeremy would wait for the new one.... unless of course jeremy needs another one like yesterday :-)... upon reading Distorted REality Credits I emailed Eric Persing about a new sampler... he never responded :-).... rsp richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 21:34:11 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-24682>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:33:54 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24682>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:33:48 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm [196.3.0.2]) by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA06885; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:26:57 -0400 (GMT+4:00) Received: by minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25331; Mon, 13 Sep 99 12:07:43-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001f01befe0c$df259f40$40f8d5d4@eskora1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:49:14 -0400 To: "Illusion Rake" From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup When will the NEW Roland sampler come? Cc: "sgroup" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 12:24 PM -0500 13/9/99, Illusion Rake wrote: > Does anybody know of that? Any rumours? SV-7700 or what it was? A >colleague of mine (E-MU enthusiastic, btw) read from some sample cd or >cd-rom a comment by sound designer Eric Persing...it could be understood >so, that he has used Da Machine already in his work, and the Hour is at >hand... Rauli Illusion Rake producer I n k F i s h Helsinki, >Finland it is credited in spectrasonics Distorted Reality II cd-rom as new stuff :)... "SAMPLERS Roland S-760/S-770 and new stuff :)" so it exists somewhere.... for the past three years I have gotten excited at every namm and aes awaiting it's arrival.. my patience has really grown thin... rsp richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 13 22:01:53 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-24682>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:01:28 -0400 Received: from lanshark.lanminds.com ([208.25.68.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24682>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:01:22 -0400 Received: from [208.25.88.69] (hat1.ppp.lmi.net [208.25.88.69]) by lanshark.lanminds.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA13863 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: froggy@pop.lmi.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001f01befe0c$df259f40$40f8d5d4@eskora1> References: <001f01befe0c$df259f40$40f8d5d4@eskora1> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:04:26 -0400 To: From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup When will the NEW Roland sampler come? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I say we all email Roland to let them know that we would buy a new sampler from them. Anyone know who we should petition? Chris > >Does anybody know of that? Any rumours? SV-7700 or what it was? > >A colleague of mine (E-MU enthusiastic, btw) read from some sample >cd or cd-rom >a comment by sound designer Eric Persing...it could be understood >so, that he has used >Da Machine already in his work, and the Hour is at hand... > >Rauli - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 14 02:52:01 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193679-11641>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:51:29 -0400 Received: from mail3.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.21]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-11641>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:51:22 -0400 Received: from 62.52.146.178 (dtm8-m146-178.pool.cww.de [62.52.146.178]) by mail3.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id IAA23692 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:51:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37DCFF48.6D09@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:42:34 -0400 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cityweb.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s750?? References: <199909122115_MC2-8496-D7F5@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dennis barton wrote: > I want to know if the 750 will boot from a ZIP drive, but so far no one has > chimed in an answer. Anyone? The S-760 boots from ZIP, I do this all the time, it's much faster than from floppy. So the S-750 will most probably boot from ZIP too. The S-760 also can load files automatically from SCSI media after booting, or after receiving MIDI Program Change messages. I don't know if the S-750 has this option too. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 14 06:09:43 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-11640>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:04:58 -0400 Received: from inet-vrs-02.microsoft.com (mail2.microsoft.com [131.107.3.124]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-11641>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:04:52 -0400 Received: from 157.54.9.104 by inet-vrs-02.microsoft.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 03:04:30 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Received: by INET-IMC-02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:54:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup s750?? Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:52:46 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk for what it's worth : S760 also boots from MO disk (I'm doing this with 2 S760s with a CD-ROM and a MO drive all on the same SCSI chain - I just have to wait for one to boot before powering up the second) I have some extra MO drives for sale if anyone needs one (they're 230MB capacity). -----Original Message----- From: Ingo Debus [mailto:debus@cityweb.de] Sent: 13 September 1999 14:43 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s750?? dennis barton wrote: > I want to know if the 750 will boot from a ZIP drive, but so far no one has > chimed in an answer. Anyone? The S-760 boots from ZIP, I do this all the time, it's much faster than from floppy. So the S-750 will most probably boot from ZIP too. The S-760 also can load files automatically from SCSI media after booting, or after receiving MIDI Program Change messages. I don't know if the S-750 has this option too. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 14 08:42:04 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-11640>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:41:35 -0400 Received: from amsterdam.interport.net ([199.184.165.19]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-11640>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:41:20 -0400 Received: from criara.com (arcts2p189.port.net [207.237.111.189]) by amsterdam.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20438 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37DE42B9.3882F712@criara.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:42:36 -0400 From: Frank Ferrucci Reply-To: frank@criara.com Organization: Leenalisa Music, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Sampler Group Subject: sgroup WTB: s760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a source for s760s. Thanks in advance. -- Frank Ferrucci Leenalisa Music, Inc. 220 West 19 Street 6th Floor New York, NY 10011 email:frank@criara.com voice: 212-242-4653 ext 3 visit , - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 14 09:08:22 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-11641>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:08:01 -0400 Received: from mail4.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.122]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-11641>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:07:46 -0400 Received: from 157.54.9.103 by mail4.microsoft.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:51:28 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Received: by INET-IMC-04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) id ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:51:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'frank@criara.com'" , Roland Sampler Group Subject: RE: sgroup WTB: s760 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:51:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk they turn up on eBay now and again - there might even be one there now (I noticed an S750 today) http://www.ebay.com -----Original Message----- From: Frank Ferrucci [mailto:frank@criara.com] Sent: 14 September 1999 13:43 To: Roland Sampler Group Subject: sgroup WTB: s760 Does anyone know of a source for s760s. Thanks in advance. -- Frank Ferrucci Leenalisa Music, Inc. 220 West 19 Street 6th Floor New York, NY 10011 email:frank@criara.com voice: 212-242-4653 ext 3 visit , - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 14 09:30:47 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-11640>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:30:35 -0400 Received: from elmls02.ce.mediaone.net ([24.131.128.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-11640>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:30:29 -0400 Received: from [24.131.140.34] (el01-24-131-140-34.ce.mediaone.net [24.131.140.34]) by elmls02.ce.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA10349; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:30:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199909141330.IAA10349@elmls02.ce.mediaone.net> Subject: Re: sgroup WTB: s760 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:30:42 -0400 x-sender: aeon@pop.ce.mediaone.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: aeon To: , "Roland Sampler Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Frank asked: >Does anyone know of a source for s760s. Thanks in advance. check... http://www.harmony-central.com/ then go to classifieds, and search for synths/samplers. you see a couple for sale fairly often. also, you see a number of Roland DJ-70mkIIs, which are basically a S-760 minus the video out, the multi-outs, but add a 37-note keyboard, performance pads and a scratch wheel! It supports the library, does time-stretch, and talks with ReCycle. Great sampler for not much money, especially if you do electronica, or perform live - it is a great controller. aeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 14 10:14:13 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-11640>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:13:31 -0400 Received: from ihemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [192.11.222.161]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-11640>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:13:20 -0400 Received: from ihemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ihemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05208 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almail.micro.lucent.com (h135-14-2-62.lucent.com [135.14.2.62]) by ihemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05192 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucent.com by almail.micro.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id KAA25632; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37DDAEF2.41E29307@lucent.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:12:02 -0400 From: "William B. Fox" Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.4 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S760 US/Europe References: <199909132249.AAA04849@Bespin.worldnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Nicolas Fournel wrote: > Is the same S760 compatible with both 60Hz and 50Hz? > I will move from Europe to US at the end of the month and would like to > know if a simple transformer (220V<->110V) will allow me to use my S760 > over there. Hi Nicolas, Looks like you're in France. To where in the US are you moving? I don't know the answer to your question but if the manual doesn't say, perhaps email to Roland will help. It seems to me (an electrical engineer) that 50 Hz is easier to filter out than 60 Hz in the power supply so a simple transformer ought to work. Just so long as the line voltage isn't used for timing anywhere in the unit... -- Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net <<< ============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 14 10:44:22 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-11640>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:44:01 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-11641>; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:43:48 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm [196.3.0.2]) by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA22703; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:36:34 -0400 (GMT+4:00) Received: by minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09793; Tue, 14 Sep 99 09:03:02-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37DDAEF2.41E29307@lucent.com> References: <199909132249.AAA04849@Bespin.worldnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:44:31 -0400 To: "William B. Fox" From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup S760 US/Europe Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 9:12 PM -0500 13/9/99, William B. Fox wrote: >Nicolas Fournel wrote: > >> Is the same S760 compatible with both 60Hz and 50Hz? >> I will move from Europe to US at the end of the month and would like to >> know if a simple transformer (220V<->110V) will allow me to use my S760 >> over there. > >Hi Nicolas, > >Looks like you're in France. To where in the US are you moving? I don't know >the answer to your question but if the manual doesn't say, perhaps email to >Roland will help. It seems to me (an electrical engineer) that 50 Hz is >easier >to filter out than 60 Hz in the power supply so a simple transformer ought to >work. Just so long as the line voltage isn't used for timing anywhere in the >unit... >-- I live in jamaica where the cycle is 50HZ .. I bought my s760 in the US and it works fine down here.. except that it only gives me 24 measley voices of polyphony :-)..... read at the back of the s-760 where the serial number is.. it usually tells you voltage and stuff like that.. roland unlike many manufacturers make their equipment truly global... rsp richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 15 08:56:07 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-23838>; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:53:58 -0400 Received: from inet-vrs-02.microsoft.com (mail2.microsoft.com [131.107.3.124]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-23838>; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:53:51 -0400 Received: from 157.54.9.104 by inet-vrs-02.microsoft.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 15 Sep 1999 05:53:44 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Received: by INET-IMC-02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 05:53:43 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup S760 US/Europe Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:50:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I took 2 S760s back from the USA to Ireland, I replaced the power supplies by ordering them from Roland. They worked fine though with my step down transformer at 50Hz. (I wish I had kept the old US power supplies.....) -----Original Message----- From: Richard Sven Patterson [mailto:patterso@uwimona.edu.jm] Sent: 14 September 1999 15:45 To: William B. Fox Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S760 US/Europe At 9:12 PM -0500 13/9/99, William B. Fox wrote: >Nicolas Fournel wrote: > >> Is the same S760 compatible with both 60Hz and 50Hz? >> I will move from Europe to US at the end of the month and would like to >> know if a simple transformer (220V<->110V) will allow me to use my S760 >> over there. > >Hi Nicolas, > >Looks like you're in France. To where in the US are you moving? I don't know >the answer to your question but if the manual doesn't say, perhaps email to >Roland will help. It seems to me (an electrical engineer) that 50 Hz is >easier >to filter out than 60 Hz in the power supply so a simple transformer ought to >work. Just so long as the line voltage isn't used for timing anywhere in the >unit... >-- I live in jamaica where the cycle is 50HZ .. I bought my s760 in the US and it works fine down here.. except that it only gives me 24 measley voices of polyphony :-)..... read at the back of the s-760 where the serial number is.. it usually tells you voltage and stuff like that.. roland unlike many manufacturers make their equipment truly global... rsp richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 15 10:12:54 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-23838>; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:12:14 -0400 Received: from nordpol.dbf.ddb.de ([193.175.100.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-23838>; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:11:58 -0400 Received: from poppix.dbf.ddb.de (poppix.dbf.ddb.de [193.175.99.21]) by nordpol.dbf.ddb.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA30810 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:11:57 +0200 Received: from f-ntws-01349 (f-nt40-01349.dbf.ddb.de [193.175.99.73]) by poppix.dbf.ddb.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA30089 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:10:29 +0200 Message-Id: <199909151410.QAA30089@poppix.dbf.ddb.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Thomas Seidel" Organization: Die Deutsche Bibliothek To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:11:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: sgroup S760 US/Europe In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54DE) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > I live in jamaica where the cycle is 50HZ .. I bought my s760 in the US and > it works fine down here.. except that it only gives me 24 measley voices of > polyphony :-)..... > read at the back of the s-760 where the serial number is.. it usually tells > you voltage and stuff like that.. roland unlike many manufacturers make > their equipment truly global... Off-Topic: My MKS-70 was built for the US but the transformer was changed for Europe later. As you see roland thinks global since the mid 80's! -- Thomas - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 16 12:25:39 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-9864>; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:23:09 -0400 Received: from mail.grove.ufl.edu ([128.227.8.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-9863>; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:23:03 -0400 Received: from banyan.grove.ufl.edu (hotrod@banyan-f [128.227.157.15]) by mail.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/h1) with ESMTP id MAA23677; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by banyan.grove.ufl.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/c1) with ESMTP id MAA10110; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Comments: MAA10110 on banyan (hop 0), Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:22:52 -0400 From: mike p X-Sender: hotrod@banyan To: Mike Shapiro cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup When will the NEW Roland sampler come? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990913141537.009f1620@zoesis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > abandon the S-760 forever (probably for an EMU... I've read that they can im sorry, i wasnt paying attention before. what is the going price for a used s-760 these days? i always considered that to be the sampler id buy when i had a real job.. which is less than a year away. (mt s-330 is still kicking meanwhile) m - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 16 17:43:07 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-16032>; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:42:35 -0400 Received: from ziggy.wwnet.net ([209.142.193.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-16032>; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:42:25 -0400 Received: from wwnet.net (max7-190.pontiac.usabestnet.net [209.142.232.190]) by ziggy.wwnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA25193 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:42:24 -0400 Message-ID: <37E01292.15BF87D7@wwnet.net> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:41:39 -0400 From: "Javier M. Barrios" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca" Subject: sgroup Looking for something Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey there sgroupers, looking for a disk drive for an s-330 sampler. Does anybody know where to find one????? also looking for a Director-S owners' key. I contacted roland and the disk drive is on indefinite backorder and I don't thing they carry the keys anymore. If you know where to find them drop me a line Javier Michigan USA - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 16 20:38:38 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193680-664>; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:38:07 -0400 Received: from sierra.seas.upenn.edu (sierra2.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.64.180]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-664>; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:37:57 -0400 Received: from voltron.4103.net (adsl-151-197-17-69.bellatlantic.net [151.197.17.69]) by sierra.seas.upenn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA13245 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:37:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Fleisher Organization: University of Pennsylvania To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup also Looking for something Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:34:38 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: <37E01292.15BF87D7@wwnet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99091620361404.11393@voltron.4103.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk If anyone knows where to find a s-330 mouse please let me know. Thanks. - Dan -- Dan Fleisher danielfl@seas.upenn.edu - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 17 09:12:14 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-785>; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:08:51 -0400 Received: from ihemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (ihemail1.lucent.com [192.11.222.161]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-785>; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:08:47 -0400 Received: from ihemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ihemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03012 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from almail.micro.lucent.com (h135-14-2-62.lucent.com [135.14.2.62]) by ihemlsrv.firewall.lucent.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02993; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lucent.com by almail.micro.lucent.com (8.8.8+Sun/EMS-1.5 sol2) id JAA12774; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37E23D56.C31AAF66@lucent.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:08:38 -0400 From: "William B. Fox" Organization: Lucent Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en]C-CCK-MCD EMS-1.4 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Javier M. Barrios" CC: "sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca" Subject: Re: sgroup Looking for something References: <37E01292.15BF87D7@wwnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk "Javier M. Barrios" wrote: > also looking for a Director-S owners' key. > I contacted roland and the disk drive is on indefinite backorder and I > don't thing they carry the keys anymore. If you know where to find them > drop me a line I lost my key in my last move from apartment to house in December 1992. Roland charged me $50!!!! for a replacement. If they don't have any more, then you may be screwed! -- Bill >>> home: billfox@fast.net <<< work: billfox@lucent.com ============================================================================== Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. ============================================================================== The radio station: http://www.wdiyfm.org My radio show: http://www.wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html My band's site: http://www.crosswinds.net/~shadowplay - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 18 03:18:53 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-29974>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:17:49 -0400 Received: from mail2.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-29973>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:17:35 -0400 Received: from 62.52.145.240 (dtm8-m145-240.pool.cww.de [62.52.145.240]) by mail2.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id JAA25998 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:17:29 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37E234AB.1F1A@cityweb.de> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:31:40 -0400 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cityweb.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Looking for something References: <37E01292.15BF87D7@wwnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Javier M. Barrios wrote: > > Hey there sgroupers, looking for a disk drive for an s-330 sampler. > > Does anybody know where to find one????? Can't a normal floppy drive for computers be used? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 18 08:22:08 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193692-29973>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:21:25 -0400 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.71]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-29973>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:21:18 -0400 Received: from JLMjr@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 5DXMa03529 (3966); Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:20:39 -0400 (EDT) From: JLMjr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:20:39 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup also Looking for something To: danielfl@seas.upenn.edu, owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have been told that the S-550 uses an off the shelf serial mouse. I am making an assumption that the S-330 uses the same type of mouse. They aren't hard to find. Any computer store should have a selection. You can even buy an adaptor for a PS-2 style mouse. You should be able to find a used serial mouse for less than $10. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 18 08:26:46 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193693-29974>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:26:29 -0400 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-29974>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:26:23 -0400 Received: from JLMjr@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 6WSG049jZC (3966) for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:26:17 -0400 (EDT) From: JLMjr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:26:17 -0400 Subject: sgroup S-550 questions. . . To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I traded my TX16W for an S-550. I love it! I just joined the mailing list. Need answers to basic questions. 1. Anybody got a SCSI interface to sell? 2. Are there any substitutes for the Roland-made SCSI interface? 3. Anyway to save a wav file to disk and read it into the S-550? 4. What internet sites do you suggest for S-550 samples? 5. Can I get a utility to convert S-750 samples to S-550 format? They are different aren't they? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 18 08:35:33 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193694-29973>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:35:14 -0400 Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.65]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-29973>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:35:07 -0400 Received: from JLMjr@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 6NHOa04068 (3966) for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:35:00 -0400 (EDT) From: JLMjr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:35:00 -0400 Subject: sgroup S-330 Disk drive To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Okay, list members. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that the S-330 and S-550 both use standard double density floppy drives. These are a little harder to find than the standard high density drives currently being used in computers. Computer salvage shops may have them. Also check with family and friends who have not yet trashed their old (very old) computers. I used to work in computer support and had access to old dead computers. Did not have the foresight to save any of the parts. I had a Yamaha TX16W at the time and it uses a proprietary drive. Oh, well, Good Luck!! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 18 11:07:48 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-29974>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:07:17 -0400 Received: from hpamraaa.compuserve.com (ah-img-rel-1.compuserve.com [149.174.217.152]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-29974>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:07:07 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id LAA23814 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from compuserve.com (port015.westchester.dialup.bway.net [216.220.111.138]) by hpamraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with ESMTP id LAA23773 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37E3A9CC.424F7F96@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:03:42 -0400 From: Bruce Tovsky Reply-To: BTovsky@compuserve.com Organization: Skeleton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SGroup Subject: Re: sgroup S-550 questions. . . References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I too am a big fan of the S550. I've got a video capture card so I display the S550 screen on my Mac, very cool! Good luck with the SCSI interface. I've got one - it's great, I've got a CD-ROM and a Syquest Ez135 hooked up to it - great having the extra storage. Ferret out all the music sites with 'gear exchange' bbs's and you may luck out. Definitely check out Stefano Darino's "D-Sound-Pro" if you've got a Mac. It reads and writes S550 files, converts from/to aiff, wav, etc. and can put sounds on an S550 disk. The disk must be formatted in the S550. If the SGroup sample site is up, that's a good source of samples, and with one of the variety of sample edit programs like D-Sound out there you can at least do sample dumps over MIDI. No conversion of S-750 to S550 directly, but I think D-Sound will read S750 disks so you could use it as an in-between. Good luck and enjoy the world of 12bit! Bruce JLMjr@aol.com wrote: > > I traded my TX16W for an S-550. I love it! > I just joined the mailing list. Need answers to basic questions. > > 1. Anybody got a SCSI interface to sell? > 2. Are there any substitutes for the Roland-made SCSI interface? > 3. Anyway to save a wav file to disk and read it into the S-550? > 4. What internet sites do you suggest for S-550 samples? > 5. Can I get a utility to convert S-750 samples to S-550 format? They are > different aren't they? > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 18 12:11:41 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193679-29974>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:10:51 -0400 Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-29974>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:10:36 -0400 Received: from JLMjr@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 6GZQa29838 (3866) for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:10:29 -0400 (EDT) From: JLMjr@aol.com Message-ID: <5c1cb0d.25151375@aol.com> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:10:29 -0400 Subject: sgroup Track Ball on S-550 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 27 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'll bet it comes down to the driver the S-550 uses to control the mouse vs. the trackball. If you can use the trackball without a special driver on your PC, then there's a better chance (but no guarantee) that you'll be able to use it on your S-550. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 18 14:17:06 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-29974>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:16:10 -0400 Received: from thomson.uni2.net ([195.82.195.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-29974>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:16:00 -0400 Received: from default (p204-13.ppp.get2net.dk [195.82.196.13]) by thomson.uni2.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA10402 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:16:18 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001a01bf0202$30c266a0$0dc452c3@default> Reply-To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?LARS-PEDER_NYRUP_B=F8GH?=" From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?LARS-PEDER_NYRUP_B=F8GH?=" To: Subject: Sv: sgroup S-330 Disk drive Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:18:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have tryed a "standard" 720 Kb drive on the S330 that I owened once. I got it working by trial and error.... You probably have to set some jumpers at the drive to make it work. At first it could not recognize a disc insert/change. (Sory for my spelling, I don't have the time to check that now...!) Nyrup. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: JLMjr@aol.com Til: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Dato: 18. september 1999 14:35 Emne: sgroup S-330 Disk drive >Okay, list members. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that the = S-330=20 >and S-550 both use standard double density floppy drives. These are a = little=20 >harder to find than the standard high density drives currently being = used in=20 >computers. Computer salvage shops may have them. Also check with family = and=20 >friends who have not yet trashed their old (very old) computers. I = used to=20 >work in computer support and had access to old dead computers. Did not = have=20 >the foresight to save any of the parts. I had a Yamaha TX16W at the = time and=20 >it uses a proprietary drive. Oh, well, Good Luck!! > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 18 15:59:11 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-29973>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:58:42 -0400 Received: from wichita.gate.net ([198.206.134.42]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-29973>; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:58:39 -0400 Received: from gate.net (tsdfb2-211.gate.net [199.227.116.211]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA317654 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:59:24 -0400 Message-ID: <37E3EE89.E9F43888@gate.net> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 15:56:57 -0400 From: -adam- Reply-To: dopey@gate.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sgroup@lists.uunet.ca" Subject: sgroup Orb drive + S760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anyone try the Orb drive out yet with a S760? My eZ135 just doesn't hold enough. Any other removable media drives ya'll really like with the 760? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 19 00:10:42 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-13443>; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:09:51 -0400 Received: from netgate.co.nz ([202.27.201.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-13442>; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:09:46 -0400 Received: from [202.27.201.30] (30.netgate.co.nz [202.27.201.30]) by netgate.co.nz (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01581 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 16:08:37 +1200 X-Sender: craigus@netgate.co.nz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:09:52 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Craig Harris Subject: sgroup other s760 Questions Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi - I'm looking at getting a s760 some time in the near future, replacing or alongside an old s50. I'll be wanting to use the s760 for loops that play for an indefinite amount of time (say 3 minutes or more), then somehow be able to turn the loop off and start it up again. (at the moment I'm using a MacPortable to play 8bit loops for live acid jazz) Can the s760 so a similar function as some drum machines do with the open and closed hihat - ie one key# triggering the sample, and another key# stopping it? Another alternative could be if the s760 can switch into a monophonic/1 voice mode and another note would kill the sample and play another sample (or a short quiet sample) Any info on this would be great Cheers - Windows 95: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 19 05:37:10 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-13442>; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 05:36:11 -0400 Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.71]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-13442>; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 05:36:01 -0400 Received: from JLMjr@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 6RLZa03463 (4228) for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 05:35:44 -0400 (EDT) From: JLMjr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 05:35:44 -0400 Subject: sgroup D-soundPRO To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 27 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'm trying to use D-soundPRO to move a sound from my Mac to a Roland S-550 disk. When I pull up a sound and go to "export to s-disk" from the menu in D-soundPRO, it asks me to insert a formatted Roland disk. When I insert a formatted Roland disk, the system then says "I'm sorrry, this disk appears to be empty". DUH! What am I doing wrong? Help! Can someone please give me step by step instructions? The D-soundPRO manual is VERY general. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 19 09:38:07 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193679-13442>; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:37:30 -0400 Received: from spamraaa.compuserve.com (as-img-rel-1.compuserve.com [149.174.217.142]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-13442>; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:37:20 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.0) id JAA08949 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from compuserve.com (port009.violet.dialup.bway.net [216.220.110.23]) by spamraaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.0) with ESMTP id JAA08935; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37E4E58D.3630FD51@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:30:54 -0400 From: Bruce Tovsky Reply-To: BTovsky@compuserve.com Organization: Skeleton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JLMjr@aol.com CC: SGroup Subject: Re: sgroup D-soundPRO References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk The trick is you have to create "blocks" on the formatted disk to send the sounds to, i.e.: (1)format a disk in the S550, (2)create "dummy" samples of the length(s) you need for the sounds you want to transfer -long samples for long sounds like strings, etc., short ones for drum sounds, (3)use that disk with D-Sound and it will "see" the slots you created and allow you to transfer sounds to them. The crux of the issue is that D-Sound is doing some real tricks to even allow ACCESS to the Roland disks - different proprietary DOS, etc. - so any operations to the disks must be done at the S550. It's a bit of a cludge, but what I do is have a few preformatted 'formats' for various types of lengths of samples, use the disks with D-Sound to transfer the samples, then put them on my hard drive at the S550. Even with all that, it's still faster than using MIDI dump! Good luck and feel free to contact me for help Bruce JLMjr@aol.com wrote: > > I'm trying to use D-soundPRO to move a sound from my Mac to a Roland S-550 > disk. When I pull up a sound and go to "export to s-disk" from the menu in > D-soundPRO, it asks me to insert a formatted Roland disk. When I insert a > formatted Roland disk, the system then says "I'm sorrry, this disk appears to > be empty". DUH! > > What am I doing wrong? Help! Can someone please give me step by step > instructions? The D-soundPRO manual is VERY general. > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 19 13:26:46 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-13443>; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:26:02 -0400 Received: from mb07.swip.net ([193.12.122.211]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-13443>; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:25:51 -0400 Received: from ag001500 (d212-151-164-236.swipnet.se [212.151.164.236]) by mb07.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA07338 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:25:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <002b01bf02c3$d9d5a9c0$eca497d4@ag001500> Reply-To: "BoomBoom" From: "BoomBoom" To: "SGroup" Subject: sgroup sample dump on s220 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:24:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF02D4.9C3981C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF02D4.9C3981C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to dump a bassdrum sample to my s220. Does the unit understand SDS? How would i make it receive?=20 When i try to send the sample from soundforge, my esi32 starts receiving = no matter what settings i use, but the stupid s220 doesn't respond to = anything. It's own audio inputs are really bad, so doing anything via analog leads = is no use, it just gets too noisy. Is the fact that it is a 12 bit sampler a problem? Does there exist = anything called 12 bit SDS? ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF02D4.9C3981C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd like to dump a bassdrum sample to my = s220.
Does the unit understand SDS? How would i make it = receive?=20
When i try to send the sample from soundforge, my = esi32 starts=20 receiving no matter what settings i use, but the stupid s220 doesn't = respond to=20 anything.
It's own audio inputs are really bad, so doing = anything via=20 analog leads is no use, it just gets too noisy.
Is the fact that it is a 12 bit sampler a = problem? Does=20 there exist anything called 12 bit SDS?
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BF02D4.9C3981C0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 20 18:28:57 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-29732>; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:27:22 -0400 Received: from ziggy.wwnet.net ([209.142.193.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-29732>; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:27:16 -0400 Received: from wwnet.net (max3-178.pontiac.usabestnet.net [207.158.131.178]) by ziggy.wwnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05249 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:27:07 -0400 Message-ID: <37E5630D.B3C8517@wwnet.net> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 18:26:21 -0400 From: "Javier M. Barrios" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca" Subject: sgroup s-330 disk drive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey there s-groupers, I contacted Roland and they said that the Disk Drive is PROPRIETARY..... There are jumper settings under it that have to be placed in order for the drive to work with the sampler. I have a 720k drive in it and I can do an s-50 file conversion, but I can't save it in the s-330 format. Don't get me wrong I can get away with using the s-50 format, but I cannot get the full use out of the sampler because I cannot save in the s-330 format. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Javier Michigan USA - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 00:46:41 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:46:09 -0400 Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:46:06 -0400 Received: from JLMjr@aol.com by imo11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 6KAHa11423 (3970) for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:45:56 -0400 (EDT) From: JLMjr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:45:54 -0400 Subject: sgroup SCSI port upgrade To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I called a company last week about a SCSI port upgrade for my S-550. He called me back today to say that they didn't have any. He said that he might be willing to build some if there were enough of us interested in buying it. I think the name of the company was SoundLogic. Is anyone familiar with this company? I think it's the same company that was talking about building SIMMS for the Yamaha TX16W. Does anyone know the web address for SoundLogic? It's not the obvious URL. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 02:41:17 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-12178>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:38:14 -0400 Received: from mail3.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.21]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193676-12178>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:38:03 -0400 Received: from 62.52.146.83 (dtm8-m146-83.pool.cww.de [62.52.146.83]) by mail3.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id IAA13564 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:37:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37E5EEAF.4CD0@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 04:22:11 -0400 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cityweb.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SGroup Subject: Re: sgroup sample dump on s220 References: <002b01bf02c3$d9d5a9c0$eca497d4@ag001500> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk BoomBoom wrote: > > I'd like to dump a bassdrum sample to my s220. > Does the unit understand SDS? No, it doesn't. It has a proprietary SysEx format for sample transfer. Wasn't there a DOS prog supporting the S-10? Maybe the S-220 is compatible? > Is the fact that it is a 12 bit sampler a problem? No, there were 12 bit samplers supporting SDS: the Yamaha TX16W and the Prophet 2000 (I think). Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 02:41:42 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:38:24 -0400 Received: from mail3.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.21]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-12178>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 02:38:03 -0400 Received: from 62.52.146.83 (dtm8-m146-83.pool.cww.de [62.52.146.83]) by mail3.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id IAA13573 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:37:57 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37E5EF0E.6ADF@cityweb.de> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 04:23:45 -0400 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cityweb.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SGroup Subject: Re: sgroup Orb drive + S760 References: <37E3EE89.E9F43888@gate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk -adam- wrote: > Any other removable media drives ya'll really like with > the 760? I use a ZIP. Works fine. 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From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 07:11:57 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:11:07 -0400 Received: from hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (dh-img-rel-1.compuserve.com [149.174.206.132]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:10:56 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) id HAA08610 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (net130-057.mclink.it [195.110.130.57]) by hpdmraaa.compuserve.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/HP-REL-1.2) with ESMTP id HAA08577; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909211110.HAA08577@hpdmraaa.compuserve.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 06:09:02 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup D-soundPRO From: "Stefano Daino" To: BTovsky@compuserve.com, JLMjr@aol.com CC: SGroup Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi Bruce, yes! perfect explanation of the problem, thank you very much for your note! The last version of D-SoundPRO is the 3.5.1 and it is available at: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/sdaino It is the official D-SoundPRO web site. There you will always find the patch to the last version of D-SoundPRO, info, and more. If someone needs assistance using D-SoundPRO, don't hesitate to write to me. I'm a little bit slow to answer, but I always try! Ciao Stefano Daino the author of D-SoundPRO sdaino@compuserve.com ---------- >From: Bruce Tovsky >To: JLMjr@aol.com >Cc: SGroup >Subject: Re: sgroup D-soundPRO >Date: Dom, 19 set 1999 15:30 > > > The trick is you have to create "blocks" on the formatted disk to send > the sounds to, i.e.: (1)format a disk in the S550, (2)create "dummy" > samples of the length(s) you need for the sounds you want to transfer > -long samples for long sounds like strings, etc., short ones for drum > sounds, (3)use that disk with D-Sound and it will "see" the slots you > created and allow you to transfer sounds to them. The crux of the > issue is that D-Sound is doing some real tricks to even allow ACCESS > to the Roland disks - different proprietary DOS, etc. - so any operations > to the disks must be done at the S550. It's a bit of a cludge, but what > I do is have a few preformatted 'formats' for various types of lengths > of samples, use the disks with D-Sound to transfer the samples, then > put them on my hard drive at the S550. Even with all that, it's still faster > than using MIDI dump! > Good luck and feel free to contact me for help > Bruce > > JLMjr@aol.com wrote: > >> >> I'm trying to use D-soundPRO to move a sound from my Mac to a Roland S-550 >> disk. When I pull up a sound and go to "export to s-disk" from the menu in >> D-soundPRO, it asks me to insert a formatted Roland disk. When I insert a >> formatted Roland disk, the system then says "I'm sorrry, this disk appears to >> be empty". DUH! >> >> What am I doing wrong? Help! Can someone please give me step by step >> instructions? The D-soundPRO manual is VERY general. >> >> - >> Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >> For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >> and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 09:01:46 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:01:15 -0400 Received: from central.picker.com ([144.54.31.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:01:00 -0400 Received: from server.ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10992; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kayak.ct.picker.com ([144.54.52.93]) by server.ct.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA11696; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:00:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kayak.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06448; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:00:46 -0400 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:00:46 -0400 From: shermane@ct.picker.com (Sherman) Message-Id: <199909211300.JAA06448@kayak.ct.picker.com> To: JLMjr@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup SCSI port upgrade X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > From owner-sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca Tue Sep 21 00:47:00 1999 > From: JLMjr@aol.com > > I called a company last week about a SCSI port upgrade for my S-550. He > called me back today to say that they didn't have any. He said that he might > be willing to build some if there were enough of us interested in buying it. > > I think the name of the company was SoundLogic. Is anyone familiar with this > company? I think it's the same company that was talking about building SIMMS > for the Yamaha TX16W. Does anyone know the web address for SoundLogic? It's > not the obvious URL. > This has come up here before, maybe a few years ago. At the time, I emailed the company and said that I'd be interested in one. I never heard anything back. I'm still interested. I would guess that as time goes by there are fewer people interested in buying one so the chances of them building one go down. Does anyone have the schematics for it? -Mike --------------------------------------------------------- Michael E. Sherman Cameras and Communications shermanE@ct.picker.com CT Engineering 440-473-4609 Picker International - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 10:37:55 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:37:37 -0400 Received: from mail.airmail.net ([206.66.12.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:37:27 -0400 Received: from [207.136.61.116] from [207.136.61.116] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.405) with esmtp for sender: id ; Tue, 21 Sep 99 09:37:24 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.airmail.net Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:38:00 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: sgroup 760-Mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Is there any way to suck 760 samples off a roland format zip onto a mac and into wav/aiff format? I have tried burning cd disc images of my 760 zips, but the samples come out all scrambled on the cd. I need to back up my zips! ________________________________ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf alejandro jodorowsky www http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 11:34:53 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-12178>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:34:40 -0400 Received: from wichita.gate.net ([198.206.134.42]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:34:30 -0400 Received: from feinsilver.com (tsdfb2-294.gate.net [207.36.153.167]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA08786; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:35:07 -0400 Message-ID: <37E7A517.9AC289E9@feinsilver.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:32:40 -0400 From: -adam- Reply-To: adam@feinsilver.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: omz , "sgroup@lists.uunet.ca" Subject: Re: sgroup 760-Mac References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk That Would be SMAC. The transfer program for Roland samplers. omz wrote: > Is there any way to suck 760 samples off a roland format zip onto a > mac and into wav/aiff format? > > I have tried burning cd disc images of my 760 zips, but the samples > come out all scrambled on the cd. > > I need to back up my zips! > > ________________________________ > omz > > beautamous loaf recordings > http://www.hotweird.com/loaf > alejandro jodorowsky www > http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 11:38:41 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:38:12 -0400 Received: from patachou.sti.com.br ([200.212.48.251]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:38:06 -0400 Received: from xerxesol (dial-lc02-124.sti.com.br [200.211.87.124] (may be forged)) by patachou.sti.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA11932 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:37:49 -0300 Message-Id: <199909211537.MAA11932@patachou.sti.com.br> Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Reply-To: address found on hugin.uunet.ca: Reply-To: <@sti.com.br> ^-illegal token in route, expected word, illegal end of route address From: "Xerxes de Oliveira" To: "S group" Subject: sgroup S-760 Sysex implementation Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:23:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Someone knows where I can find the S-760's Sysex implementation? I'm looking this because I'm trying to build an environment for Logic that works with S-760. Thanks. xerxes - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 12:24:12 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-12179>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:23:59 -0400 Received: from dnai.com ([207.181.194.98]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-12178>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:23:50 -0400 Received: from 207.181.237.170 (dnai-207-181-237-170.cust.dnai.com [207.181.237.170]) by dnai.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA09888 for ; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909211623.JAA09888@dnai.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:22:49 -0400 From: Dan Phillips Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 Sysex implementation To: Xerxes de Oliveira , S group X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Dan Phillips Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="====55485653555248545352===1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --====55485653555248545352===1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Reply to: RE: sgroup S-760 Sysex implementation > Someone knows where I can find the S-760's Sysex implementation? Ask Roland. - Dan --====55485653555248545352===1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
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Ask = Roland.

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From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 16:34:27 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-2446>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:33:52 -0400 Received: from netgate.co.nz ([202.27.201.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-2446>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:33:42 -0400 Received: from [202.27.201.26] (26.netgate.co.nz [202.27.201.26]) by netgate.co.nz (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19811 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:33:06 +1200 X-Sender: craigus@netgate.co.nz Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:33:20 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Craig Harris Subject: sgroup more s760 Questions Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi - I'm looking at getting a s760 some time in the near future, replacing or alongside an old s50. I'll be wanting to use the s760 for loops that play for an indefinite amount of time (say 3 minutes or more), then somehow be able to turn the loop off and start it up again. (at the moment I'm using a MacPortable to play 8bit loops for live acid jazz) Can the s760 so a similar function as some drum machines do with the open and closed hihat - ie one key# triggering the sample, and another key# stopping it? Another alternative could be if the s760 can switch into a monophonic/1 voice mode and another note would kill the sample and play another sample (or a short quiet sample) Any info on this would be great Also, does anyone know if if the s760 can read s50/550 disks? Cheers - Windows 95: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 21 18:10:35 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-18198>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:09:39 -0400 Received: from wichita.gate.net ([198.206.134.42]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-18198>; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:09:28 -0400 Received: from feinsilver.com (tsdfb4-103.gate.net [199.227.99.230]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA163382; Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:10:14 -0400 Message-ID: <37E801B2.47CFEEB7@feinsilver.com> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:07:46 -0400 From: -adam- Reply-To: adam@feinsilver.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Harris , "sgroup@lists.uunet.ca" Subject: Re: sgroup more s760 Questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yes, Craig. The sounds can be put in "monophonic" so that other sounds in the patch cut off the playing sound. Obviously you can just hold a note down for the loop to play & let go to stop the loop also. Craig Harris wrote: > hi - I'm looking at getting a s760 some time in the near future, replacing > or alongside an old s50. I'll be wanting to use the s760 for loops that > play for an indefinite amount of time (say 3 minutes or more), then somehow > be able to turn the loop off and start it up again. (at the moment I'm > using a MacPortable to play 8bit loops for live acid jazz) > Can the s760 so a similar function as some drum machines do with the open > and closed hihat - ie one key# triggering the sample, and another key# > stopping it? > Another alternative could be if the s760 can switch into a monophonic/1 > voice mode and another note would kill the sample and play another sample > (or a short quiet sample) > > Any info on this would be great > > Also, does anyone know if if the s760 can read s50/550 disks? > > Cheers > > - Windows 95: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit > patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit > microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of > competition. > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 22 01:04:02 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193697-6098>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:02:39 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-6098>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:02:13 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm [196.3.0.2]) by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA13228; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 00:54:20 -0400 (GMT+4:00) Received: by minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20110; Wed, 22 Sep 99 00:01:33-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:02:16 -0400 To: omz From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup 760-Mac Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 10:38 AM -0500 21/9/99, omz wrote: >Is there any way to suck 760 samples off a roland format zip onto a >mac and into wav/aiff format? > >I have tried burning cd disc images of my 760 zips, but the samples >come out all scrambled on the cd. > >I need to back up my zips! > two parts to the answer..... to copy roland stuff onto your mac... I know peak and samplifer (shareware from Doug wyatt) does the transfer from the sampler onto the hard drive.. not from a zip though as far as I know... however all you need to do to back up your zips is connect your zip drive to your macintosh....and use toast and let it do a scsi copy from the zip.... and this works fine.. as I do it almost monthly.. don't do a mac folder or mac volume copy.. do a scsi copy... rsp email me privately if you need better/more instructions. rsp richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 22 02:20:06 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-6098>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 02:19:36 -0400 Received: from mail1.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.19]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-6097>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 02:19:25 -0400 Received: from 62.52.145.148 (dtm8-m145-148.pool.cww.de [62.52.145.148]) by mail1.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id IAA10160 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 08:19:15 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37E7A19A.B39@cityweb.de> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:17:47 -0400 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cityweb.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup other s760 Questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Craig Harris wrote: > > hi - I'm looking at getting a s760 some time in the near future, replacing > or alongside an old s50. I'll be wanting to use the s760 for loops that > play for an indefinite amount of time (say 3 minutes or more), then somehow > be able to turn the loop off and start it up again. (at the moment I'm > using a MacPortable to play 8bit loops for live acid jazz) > Can the s760 so a similar function as some drum machines do with the open > and closed hihat - ie one key# triggering the sample, and another key# > stopping it? > Another alternative could be if the s760 can switch into a monophonic/1 > voice mode and another note would kill the sample and play another sample > (or a short quiet sample) Yes, there's a Patch parameter called "Assign Type", which can be set to Poly, Mono or Exc1...Exc16. Several Partials with the same Exc1..Exc16 setting can't sound at the same time, while Partials with different settings can. But: If I got you right, you want to loop the sample infinitely AFTER Note-Off. The S-760's TVA doesn't allow for this, it's release level is always 0. With release time set to maximum it fades away very slow, but it does fade. If you don't want to hold the keyboard key down all the time, perhaps you can use a sustain pedal? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 22 10:24:19 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193689-6098>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:23:36 -0400 Received: from wichita.gate.net ([198.206.134.42]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193676-6098>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:23:30 -0400 Received: from gate.net (tsdfb3-26.gate.net [199.227.117.26]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA430312 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:24:20 -0400 Message-ID: <37E8E5FF.91EE97FC@gate.net> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:21:50 -0400 From: -adam- Reply-To: dopey@feinsilver.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sgroup@lists.uunet.ca" Subject: Re: sgroup other s760 Questions References: <37E7A19A.B39@cityweb.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, this was certainly a more detailed explanation than my little sentence. As Ingo stated, there is not infinite looping on the Roland. There may be a work around on your sequencer. I don't know how the following is done in Vision or Logic, but in Cubase, you can theoretically use the INPUT TRANSFORM function to convert a "key release" to something other than note off. I put key release in quotes, because I tried setting up a "transform tool" like I had Bars & Pipes so that note volume on/volume off for a midi channel could be toggled quickly. The problem is that there is not specific note on or note off recognition in the "input transform" function...BUT, the input transform DOES recognize and transform any given key on the keyboard. So, the unfortunate work arounds are: 1) Use velocity ranges of a particular note 2) Use 1 key to trigger on & use another to trigger off Basically, you're overriding the values normally produced by the key. I've got the volume toggle working to get the transform effect. But it would be much more effective if Cubase would give the INPUT TRANSFORM the ability to recognize both a key on the keyboard AND note on AND note off. Until then, the only solution I've come up with is velocities if you want the same key to do both functions (since both note on and note off produce a velocity value & velocity is recognized by input transform). Now I'm confused! If anyone wants a pic of my input transform setup, no prob. I don't think it will show up if I try posting to the sgroup, will it? Ingo Debus wrote: > Craig Harris wrote: > > > > hi - I'm looking at getting a s760 some time in the near future, replacing > > or alongside an old s50. I'll be wanting to use the s760 for loops that > > play for an indefinite amount of time (say 3 minutes or more), then somehow > > be able to turn the loop off and start it up again. (at the moment I'm > > using a MacPortable to play 8bit loops for live acid jazz) > > Can the s760 so a similar function as some drum machines do with the open > > and closed hihat - ie one key# triggering the sample, and another key# > > stopping it? > > Another alternative could be if the s760 can switch into a monophonic/1 > > voice mode and another note would kill the sample and play another sample > > (or a short quiet sample) > > Yes, there's a Patch parameter called "Assign Type", which can be set to > Poly, Mono or Exc1...Exc16. Several Partials with the same Exc1..Exc16 > setting can't sound at the same time, while Partials with different > settings can. > > But: If I got you right, you want to loop the sample infinitely AFTER > Note-Off. The S-760's TVA doesn't allow for this, it's release level is > always 0. With release time set to maximum it fades away very slow, but > it does fade. > > If you don't want to hold the keyboard key down all the time, perhaps > you can use a sustain pedal? > > Ingo > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 22 17:36:34 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193735-23509>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:35:30 -0400 Received: from netgate.co.nz ([202.27.201.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193676-23509>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:35:20 -0400 Received: from [202.27.201.26] (23.netgate.co.nz [202.27.201.23]) by netgate.co.nz (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27117 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:34:35 +1200 X-Sender: craigus@netgate.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37E8E5FF.91EE97FC@gate.net> References: <37E7A19A.B39@cityweb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:32:51 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Craig Harris Subject: Re: sgroup other s760 Questions Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk So the s760 dosn't do indefinite looping - what about if I set the release envelope to its maximum setting - Would that be enough for 10 minutes?? The monophonic setup just for loops would be perfect. I'd have all the live set drum loops on one performance patch (using one loop per song) and manually fade it out via cc7. I could bring along a sequencer (mc500 or mac) with me, but I want to use as less gear as possible while maintaining quality. I don't want to hold a key down for 10 minutes. What I can do is with my keyboard, play a note and switch the midi channel and it sticks the note. The main question is - does the envelope's release time give me enough for say 10 minutes? If it does then I'm happy. The other question is - can the s760 read s50/550 disks?? Thanks for the help Cheers >1) Use velocity ranges of a particular note >2) Use 1 key to trigger on & use another to trigger off > >Basically, you're overriding the values normally produced by the key. - Windows 95: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Sep 22 17:43:55 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193737-10688>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:43:41 -0400 Received: from netgate.co.nz ([202.27.201.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193676-10688>; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:43:35 -0400 Received: from [202.27.201.26] (23.netgate.co.nz [202.27.201.23]) by netgate.co.nz (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27161 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:42:40 +1200 X-Sender: craigus@netgate.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37E7A19A.B39@cityweb.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:43:06 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Craig Harris Subject: Re: sgroup other s760 Questions Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Mono Mode sounds great! What I can do is hit a key on the jx8p and change the midi channel before I let go of the note, then when I want a different sample, change the midi send channel back to 16 and play another note. I could give all drum loop samples a fade out time with the release (with max sustain instead of release). Then set up an empty sample note on the patch which would cause the loop to fade out. Then hit another key for another loop for the next song, etc which means I don't have to manually fade each loop out. Cheers PS - anyone know if the s760 can read s50/550 disks? sorry for asking again, but no one has replied to that question. Cheers >Yes, there's a Patch parameter called "Assign Type", which can be set to >Poly, Mono or Exc1...Exc16. Several Partials with the same Exc1..Exc16 >setting can't sound at the same time, while Partials with different >settings can. > >But: If I got you right, you want to loop the sample infinitely AFTER >Note-Off. The S-760's TVA doesn't allow for this, it's release level is >always 0. With release time set to maximum it fades away very slow, but >it does fade. - Windows 95: n. 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 23 02:08:41 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193680-26944>; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 02:07:22 -0400 Received: from lanshark.lanminds.com ([208.25.68.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193675-26944>; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 02:07:12 -0400 Received: from [208.25.89.166] (toolshed16.ppp.lmi.net [208.25.89.166]) by lanshark.lanminds.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA29157; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: froggy@pop.lmi.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37E3EE89.E9F43888@gate.net> References: <37E3EE89.E9F43888@gate.net> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 02:10:33 -0400 To: dopey@gate.net, From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup Orb drive + S760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Id stay away from the Jaz drive 1 gig. Chris >Anyone try the Orb drive out yet with a S760? My eZ135 just doesn't >hold enough. Any other removable media drives ya'll really like with >the 760? > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 23 06:35:01 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-26943>; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:34:05 -0400 Received: from iron.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.7.29]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193675-26943>; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:34:02 -0400 Received: from singnet.com.sg (qtas1960.singnet.com.sg [165.21.53.190]) by iron.singnet.com.sg (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04684; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:33:26 +0800 (SGT) Message-ID: <37E843EB.D16247CE@singnet.com.sg> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:50:19 -0400 From: Benjamin Ang Reply-To: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JLMjr@aol.com CC: danielfl@seas.upenn.edu, owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup also Looking for something References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Wait! I seem to remember that some of sgroup members have encountered problems using off-the-shelf serial mice. Didn't somebody say that Rolands use a proprietary mouse, and that PC mice would short the sampler? Anyway, I've discovered that you *don't* need the mouse to operate the S-550. Just hold down the '1' button while switching on the power. Then the S-550 will operate from the direction buttons. Benjamin Ang Electronic Music Lab, Singapore http://www.eml.org.sg JLMjr@aol.com wrote: > > I have been told that the S-550 uses an off the shelf serial mouse. I am > making an assumption that the S-330 uses the same type of mouse. They aren't > hard to find. Any computer store should have a selection. You can even buy an > adaptor for a PS-2 style mouse. You should be able to find a used serial > mouse for less than $10. > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Sep 23 09:00:18 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-26943>; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:59:41 -0400 Received: from central.picker.com ([144.54.31.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193675-26943>; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:59:35 -0400 Received: from server.ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25626 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kayak.ct.picker.com ([144.54.52.93]) by server.ct.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA04393 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by kayak.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA07904; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:59:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:59:28 -0400 From: shermane@ct.picker.com (Sherman) Message-Id: <199909231259.IAA07904@kayak.ct.picker.com> To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup also Looking for something - Mice X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Stuff about mice from sgroup a while back. I don't know for sure if it applys to the S550. -Mike ----------------------included-message------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 10:35:53 -0400 From: "Brian Thomas" I cannot confirm the valitidy of this text, but here it is nonetheless. S-760 Mouse Info: by Kenji Rikitake The mouse is said to be MSX-compatible. A source describes the S-330 mouse port connection details as follows: Pin Name Mouse MU-1 Direction Remote Control RC-100 1 MX0 UP IN DATA1 (Data input from RC-100) 2 MX1 DOWN IN ATN (Ready signal from RC-100) 3 MX2 LEFT IN GROUND 4 MX3 RIGHT IN GROUND 5 +5.2V +5.2V POWER +5.2V supply 6 MX4 LEFT SWITCH IN CLK1 Sync clock for data1 7 MX5 RIGHT SWITCH IN CLK2 Sync clock for data2 8 MX6 STROBE(CS) OUT DATA2 (Data Output to RC-100) 9 GND GND POWER Ground -Brian Thomas -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca On Behalf Of Paul McAvoy Sent: Sunday, July 06, 1997 2:06 PM To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Pin-Out for S550 Mouse/controller I remember seeing someone post the pin-out config for the S550 mouse/controller output. Would whomever posted it please re-post it, or indicate where I might be able to find it? Thanks! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 24 03:46:21 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193703-21859>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:45:15 -0400 Received: from mail2.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-21859>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:45:11 -0400 Received: from 62.52.146.181 (dtm8-m146-181.pool.cww.de [62.52.146.181]) by mail2.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id JAA09208 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:45:05 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37EB2A9D.4F30@cityweb.de> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:39:11 -0400 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cityweb.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup 760-Mac References: <37E7A517.9AC289E9@feinsilver.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk -adam- wrote: > > That Would be SMAC. The transfer program for Roland samplers. > > omz wrote: > > > Is there any way to suck 760 samples off a roland format zip onto a > > mac and into wav/aiff format? AFAIK SMAC only supports floppy disks of the Roland 12 Bit samplers, and no ZIP disks. Or is there a newer version? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 24 03:46:22 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193693-21860>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:45:04 -0400 Received: from mail2.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.20]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-21860>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:45:01 -0400 Received: from 62.52.146.181 (dtm8-m146-181.pool.cww.de [62.52.146.181]) by mail2.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id JAA09166 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:44:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37EB235C.67F2@cityweb.de> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:08:13 -0400 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cityweb.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup other s760 Questions References: <37E7A19A.B39@cityweb.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Craig Harris wrote: > > So the s760 dosn't do indefinite looping - what about if I set the release > envelope to its maximum setting - Would that be enough for 10 minutes?? I just tested it. Used a plain sine wave, All TVA levels (except release) to maximum, all times to minimum, except release time which was set to maximum. Watched the VU meter of my DAT recorder and hit the margin reset button every minute. After 1 minute it was at -3.5dB, after 2 minutes -8dB, after 3 minutes -14.5dB, after 4 minutes -23.5dB. After 5 minutes the signal was so low that the margin display didn't show anything. After about 5 minutes and 20 seconds the singal was gone completely. So no 10 minutes loop in the release phase :-( > I could bring along a sequencer (mc500 or > mac) with me, Do you know Logic's (the sequencer program) "Touch Tracks" feature? You can start a sequence by hitting a keyboard key at stop it by hitting it once more. There are also other modes. > I don't want to hold a key down for 10 minutes. What about a sustain pedal? You could use a toggle switch instead of the usual "momentary action" switch. > The other question is - can the s760 read s50/550 disks?? It can read S-550, S-330 and W-30 disks, that's why I got my S-760 back then (had some boxes full of those disks). But IMHO it doesn't this job too well: if there are two Tones layered in a S-330 Patch, *two* S-760 Patches are created. And, since the S-760 has no Sub-Tones, each Sub-Tone is converted into a real Sample/Partial. If the Start/Loop/End points of the Original Tone and Sub-Tone are the same, this could be done more memory-efficiently. Don't know about S-50 disks, the User's Manual doesn't mention it. But with a S-330 or S-550 these disks can be converted to S-330/S-550 format. Wasn't there a DOS program that does this too? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 24 07:13:51 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-21860>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:13:10 -0400 Received: from mb07.swip.net ([193.12.122.211]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-21860>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:12:55 -0400 Received: from ag001500 (d212-151-177-101.swipnet.se [212.151.177.101]) by mb07.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA12335 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:12:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <006f01bf067d$8a125880$62a297d4@ag001500> Reply-To: "BoomBoom" From: "BoomBoom" To: "SGroup" Subject: sgroup S220 in business Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:11:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01BF068E.4C74A9E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01BF068E.4C74A9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roland sampler freaks out there, how about hearing a fresh dance track = produced with an S220??=20 okay i've used other samplers as well but still, the S220 did some of = the drums! 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From owner-sgroup Fri Sep 24 09:23:11 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-21860>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:22:39 -0400 Received: from wichita.gate.net ([198.206.134.42]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-21860>; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:22:33 -0400 Received: from icanect.net (tsdfb3-12.gate.net [199.227.117.12]) by wichita.gate.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA141648 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:23:19 -0400 Message-ID: <37EB7AB1.A76D5620@icanect.net> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:20:49 -0400 From: -adam- Reply-To: dopey@icanect.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sgroup@lists.uunet.ca" Subject: [Fwd: Re: sgroup 760-Mac] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I've used SMAC with the S-760 in the past. I think I remember reading somewhere that samples are converted to 12 bit. I'd test it out for you & figure out exactly what is going on, BUT Yosemite doesn't have a disk drive! Blah! adam Ingo Debus wrote: > -adam- wrote: > > > > That Would be SMAC. The transfer program for Roland samplers. > > > > omz wrote: > > > > > Is there any way to suck 760 samples off a roland format zip onto a > > > mac and into wav/aiff format? > > AFAIK SMAC only supports floppy disks of the Roland 12 Bit samplers, and > no ZIP disks. Or is there a newer version? > > Ingo > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 25 19:41:40 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-20176>; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:39:59 -0400 Received: from pluto.nic.fi (nic.fi [193.209.220.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-20176>; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:39:53 -0400 Received: from electron-1 (cvx-1-8.dyn.nic.fi [62.236.97.8]) by pluto.nic.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA07932 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 02:39:52 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990926024301.007a6b80@gamma.nic.fi> X-Sender: electron@gamma.nic.fi (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:43:01 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: vt@nic.fi Subject: sgroup problem with sampling with s760 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi I 'm not so familiar with my s760 yet and i have this little problem when i record samples with it. The problem is: When I record samples via analog or digital input, the recorded sample sounds different if i compare it with the source. It disturbes specially with drum samples, because the energy disappears. I thought that it might happen because the triggering in the s760 is too slow and the first milliseconds from the start are attennuated. Sampling frequencies and the levels are ok. Is there any way to avoid this ? Ville - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Sep 25 21:18:14 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-20177>; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 21:17:45 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-20177>; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 21:17:30 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm [196.3.0.2]) by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA25891; Sat, 25 Sep 1999 21:09:48 -0400 (GMT+4:00) Received: by minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00900; Sat, 25 Sep 99 20:16:56-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990926024301.007a6b80@gamma.nic.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 21:18:08 -0400 To: vt@nic.fi From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup problem with sampling with s760 Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 6:43 PM -0500 25/9/99, vt@nic.fi wrote: >Hi > >I 'm not so familiar with my s760 yet and i have this little problem when i >record samples with it. >The problem is: When I record samples via analog or digital input, the >recorded sample sounds different if i compare it with the source. It >disturbes specially with drum samples, because the energy disappears. I >thought that it might happen because the triggering in the s760 is too >slow and the first milliseconds from the start are attennuated. Sampling >frequencies and the levels are ok. > >Is there any way to avoid this ? > >Ville > first thing to check is in teh sampling page make sure that the EQ is bypassed.... how different? less bright.. more bright? if it doesn't sound as punch you may want to lower the threshold level... rsp richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 26 08:14:47 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-6284>; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:14:24 -0400 Received: from mail3.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.21]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-6284>; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:14:20 -0400 Received: from 62.52.146.200 (dtm8-m146-200.pool.cww.de [62.52.146.200]) by mail3.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id OAA28528 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:14:18 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37EE0D1F.365C@cityweb.de> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:10:08 -0400 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cityweb.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de]-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: sgroup 760-Mac] References: <37EB7AB1.A76D5620@icanect.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk -adam- wrote: > > I've used SMAC with the S-760 in the past. I think I remember reading > somewhere that samples are converted to 12 bit. I'd test it out for you & > figure out exactly what is going on, BUT Yosemite doesn't have a disk > drive! Blah! Just tried it: Yes, SMAC (the Roland_2_SAM program) does create disk image files from S-760 floppies (HD, 1.44MB), BUT these disk images are only 720kBytes! So half of the disk data is lost. SAM_2_Roland does not read disk image files of 1.44MB size. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Sep 26 13:12:01 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-6285>; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:11:23 -0400 Received: from pluto.nic.fi (nic.fi [193.209.220.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-6284>; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:11:11 -0400 Received: from electron-1 (cvx-1-45.dyn.nic.fi [62.236.97.45]) by pluto.nic.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA11684; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:10:14 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990926201324.007ae7c0@gamma.nic.fi> X-Sender: electron@gamma.nic.fi X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:13:24 -0400 To: Richard Sven Patterson , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: vt@nic.fi Subject: Re: sgroup problem with sampling with s760 In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.19990926024301.007a6b80@gamma.nic.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >>I 'm not so familiar with my s760 yet and i have this little problem when i >>record samples with it. >>The problem is: When I record samples via analog or digital input, the >>recorded sample sounds different if i compare it with the source. It >>disturbes specially with drum samples, because the energy disappears. I >>thought that it might happen because the triggering in the s760 is too >>slow and the first milliseconds from the start are attennuated. Sampling >>frequencies and the levels are ok. >> >>Is there any way to avoid this ? Thanks for answering! >first thing to check is in teh sampling page make sure that the EQ is >bypassed.... Tried that, no effect.. >how different? less bright.. more bright? Part of the brighness disappears and for example when sampling kickdrum where all the energy is in the start, after sampling it don't sound so punchy as the original. (maybe for the brightness ?) >if it doesn't sound as punch you may want to lower the threshold level... when i use digital input it is 0 allready... Is there another way to send samples from wav format on pc to s760 than sampling ? Ville - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 27 00:35:49 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193686-25361>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:34:00 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (law-f166.hotmail.com [209.185.131.229]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-25361>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:33:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 26566 invoked by uid 0); 27 Sep 1999 04:33:38 -0000 Message-ID: <19990927043338.26565.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.82.45.158 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:33:37 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.82.45.158] From: "Andrew Petrasiunas" To: vt@nic.fi, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup problem with sampling with s760 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:33:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yes, but I have not tried it yet - Recycle from Steinberg (PC/MAC). Apparently it can transfer files either via midi - very slow - or older versions of the software can send info directly via SCSI - MAC yes, PC maybe. Any current users out there? Andrew. >Is there another way to send samples from wav format on pc to s760 than >sampling ? > >Ville > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 27 09:16:30 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193690-25361>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:15:26 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-25361>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:15:00 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm [196.3.0.2]) by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA21767 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:06:26 -0400 (GMT+4:00) Received: by minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13422; Mon, 27 Sep 99 08:13:26-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:13:07 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: "Andrew Petrasiunas" (by way of Richard Sven Patterson) Subject: Re: sgroup problem with sampling with s760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi... Don't forget as well that for digital input you can attenuate up to +24 dB? I've also found that sometimes the signal is not very hot and attenuate upward. Also remember that when you play the sample with the S760 you play it at full velocity (127) and your controller or keyboard's velicity curve can change that value/sound quite dramatically. You might try sampling manually as well - just means extra work when you edit. Also don't forget that if you use an auto sample setting to set your Pre-Trig for a bit of time - VERY IMPORTANT - up to .1 seconds. When you arm the S760 the pretrigger will remember the .1 seconds before the trigger level is hit. Also may need to simply adjust your trigger level lower. Hope this makes sense and helps. Andrew. >From: Richard Sven Patterson >To: vt@nic.fi >CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca >Subject: Re: sgroup problem with sampling with s760 >Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 21:18:08 -0400 > >At 6:43 PM -0500 25/9/99, vt@nic.fi wrote: > >Hi > > > >I 'm not so familiar with my s760 yet and i have this little problem when >i > >record samples with it. > >The problem is: When I record samples via analog or digital input, the > >recorded sample sounds different if i compare it with the source. It > >disturbes specially with drum samples, because the energy disappears. I > >thought that it might happen because the triggering in the s760 is too > >slow and the first milliseconds from the start are attennuated. Sampling > >frequencies and the levels are ok. > > > >Is there any way to avoid this ? > > > >Ville > > > >first thing to check is in teh sampling page make sure that the EQ is >bypassed.... >how different? less bright.. more bright? >if it doesn't sound as punch you may want to lower the threshold level... >rsp > >richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm >876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice >876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" >hounDog music > > > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca >and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 27 09:19:13 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193692-25361>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:18:56 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-25361>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:18:48 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm [196.3.0.2]) by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA21860; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:09:58 -0400 (GMT+4:00) Received: by minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13594; Mon, 27 Sep 99 08:17:00-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990926201324.007ae7c0@gamma.nic.fi> References: <3.0.6.32.19990926024301.007a6b80@gamma.nic.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:18:31 -0400 To: vt@nic.fi From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup problem with sampling with s760 Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk sorry.. what I suggested didn't help.... re: your new question. truth is I don't know.. I am a mac person. rsp > >Is there another way to send samples from wav format on pc to s760 than >sampling ? > >Ville richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 27 14:49:31 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193698-25360>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:48:44 -0400 Received: from pluto.nic.fi (nic.fi [193.209.220.70]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-25361>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:48:32 -0400 Received: from electron-1 (cvx-1-206.dyn.nic.fi [62.236.97.206]) by pluto.nic.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA13144; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:48:22 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990927215136.007a87b0@gamma.nic.fi> X-Sender: electron@gamma.nic.fi (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:51:36 -0400 To: "Andrew Petrasiunas" , sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: vt@nic.fi Subject: Re: sgroup problem with sampling with s760 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 09:13 27.9.1999 -0400, you wrote: >Hi... > >Don't forget as well that for digital input you can attenuate up to >+24 dB? I've also found that sometimes the signal is not very hot and >attenuate upward. I tried that but it didn't solve the problem, i can do the same thing by turning more volume from the source. > >Also remember that when you play the sample with the S760 you play it at >full velocity (127) and your controller or keyboard's velicity curve can >change that value/sound quite dramatically. The recorded sample sounds different right after sampling when i trigger it with mouse, and compare it with what it sounded like in recording situation with monitoring on. Sound is attenuated and it looses brightness. > >You might try sampling manually as well - just means extra work when you >edit. Tried that too, no effect. > >Also don't forget that if you use an auto sample setting to set your >Pre-Trig for a bit of time - VERY IMPORTANT - up to .1 seconds. When you arm >the S760 the pretrigger will remember the .1 seconds before the trigger >level is hit. This one helpped little bit, sounds litlle more punchy but no effect with the brightness which is bigger broblem. Attenuated brightness is also little wired because the noise which is ricing when turning more volume sounds quite clear... > >Also may need to simply adjust your trigger level lower. It is allready 0. > >Hope this makes sense and helps. Andrew. > Thanks for trying and the pre-trigger thing helpped too :) Ville - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Sep 27 16:16:43 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193698-25361>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:16:21 -0400 Received: from mb07.swip.net ([193.12.122.211]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-25361>; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:16:15 -0400 Received: from ag001500 (d212-151-240-69.swipnet.se [212.151.240.69]) by mb07.swip.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA17155 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:16:11 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <001401bf0924$e4db1960$45f097d4@ag001500> Reply-To: "BoomBoom" From: "BoomBoom" To: "SGroup" References: <3.0.6.32.19990926024301.007a6b80@gamma.nic.fi><3.0.6.32.19990926201324.007ae7c0@gamma.nic.fi> <3.0.6.32.19990927203743.007a9100@gamma.nic.fi> Subject: Re: sgroup problem with sampling with s760 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:14:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >> Is there another way to send samples from wav format on pc to s760 = than > >> sampling ? > >no problem. connect your pc to the sampler via scsi. if you don't = have a > >scsi card in your pc already, get one, this is definitely the best = way to >> transfer files sampler<>pc.=20 > >then fire up soundforge, and load the wav. Select tools/sampler (menu > >item) and set up scsi sds. You're off! > Is there differensies beetween scsi cards, or will any scsi card do it = ? > What kind of card you are using ?=20 > Is there any broblems when connectin pc to s760's scsi chain ? probably any card, but i'm only 99% sure though, don't sue me :) only problem: make sure no scsi device has the same device number. Your = sampler has one, the harddisk another. there are 7 device numbers = available in every scsi chain. If this becomes a problem, i can't help = you, the methods probably vary alot between different hardware. >>>great thing here<<<: use soundforge for all editing, it's ten times = better than any sampler. and loading/saving via scsi is virtually = instant. /Mikkel - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Sep 28 11:40:41 1999 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-26726>; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:39:02 -0400 Received: from mailhost3.lanl.gov ([128.165.3.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193672-26726>; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:38:56 -0400 Received: from cic-mail.lanl.gov (cic-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.3.68]) by mailhost3.lanl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/(cic-5, 2/8/99)) with ESMTP id JAA09406 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:38:49 -0600 Received: from synapse.lanl.gov (synapse.lanl.gov [128.165.24.197]) by cic-mail.lanl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3/(cic-5, 2/9/99)) with ESMTP id JAA27369 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:38:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from syzygy.lanl.gov (syzygy.lanl.gov [128.165.24.233]) by synapse.lanl.gov (8.8.8/(cic-5, 10/28/97)) with ESMTP id JAA28037 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:38:48 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:38:47 -0400 From: Ian Holmes To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup S760 for sale Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk i just moved from England to America and, very reluctantly, i decided to part with my S760. it has 10 meg of RAM, comes with a CD-ROM drive and the "Digital Boy" 2-CD set (plus the original roland demo CD of course). all boxed with manuals obviously. if you're interested & can offer this sampler a loving home, please email me: ihh@lanl.gov i also have a mackie 1202 mixer (sweet) and a 4-unit SKB flight case that i'll probably end up bundling with the sampler. cheers ian - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.