From owner-sgroup Tue Jan 27 23:52:02 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193672-24283>; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:51:55 -0500 Received: from angel.uunet.ca ([142.77.1.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-24283>; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:51:49 -0500 Received: from pollux.uunet.ca ([209.47.143.131]) by angel.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <17425-1811>; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:51:38 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by pollux.uunet.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) id XAA00719 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:51:34 -0500 (EST) Date:Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:51:34 -0500 From: John Sellens Message-Id: <199801280451.XAA00719@pollux.uunet.ca> To: sgroup Subject: sgroup just a test ... Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk Is the new home of the list working? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Wed Jan 28 00:40:08 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193672-12267>; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:36:43 -0500 Received: from angel.uunet.ca ([142.77.1.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-12267>; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:36:33 -0500 Received: from pollux.uunet.ca ([209.47.143.131]) by angel.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <17111-4368>; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:36:23 -0500 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by pollux.uunet.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) id AAA04415 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:36:19 -0500 (EST) Date:Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:36:19 -0500 From: John Sellens Message-Id: <199801280536.AAA04415@pollux.uunet.ca> To: sgroup Subject: sgroup mailing list on the move Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk As you should have noticed from a subscription message in your mailbox, the sgroup mailing list is moving from lotus.uwaterloo.ca to the machine lists.uunet.ca (although the headers may show hugin.uunet.ca by accident - that's another name for the machine). Why? Because the machine lotus.uwaterloo.ca is likely to be disassembled in the near future. What is different now? To send a message to everyone on the mailing list, send it to sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Send subscription requests (subscribe/unsubscribe/etc) to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca Send questions/problems to me at jsellens@uunet.ca The mailing list will also be archived on lists.uunet.ca from here on in -- send the command "index sgroup" to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca to get an index of the available files. What will happen to the FTP archive? At this point, it's not entirely clear. If anyone has a nice reliable place at which to store 175MB or so of FTP archive, please let me know. I'll keep you informed. Please let me know if you run into any problems. John Sellens volunteer sgroup mailing list guy jsellens@uunet.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 30 08:17:58 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193673-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:15:20 -0500 Received: from post.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.154]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:15:14 -0500 Received: from phase4.demon.co.uk ([194.222.206.17]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa1011698; 30 Jan 98 13:06 GMT X-Sender: phase4@pop3.demon.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 Date:Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:08:56 -0500 To: sgroup From: Finnur Bjornsson Subject: sgroup S760 OneShot ?! Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk Is it possible to trigger a sample to be played from the beginning to the end only by sending a short note on/off message to the S760? If the partial TVA release time is set to 127 there is a -3dB level drop within a minute. This common function has been available on Akai samplers since the 12th century and it must be somewhere inside my S760 OS... Finnur - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 30 08:36:20 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:35:53 -0500 Received: from amadeus.siba.fi ([128.214.84.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:35:43 -0500 Received: (from tkorpipa@localhost) by amadeus.siba.fi (8.8.8/8.6.12+CSC-2.1) id PAA03442; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:36:06 +0200 (GMT+0200) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date:Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:36:05 -0500 From: tkorpipa@siba.fi To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup S760 OneShot ?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Finnur Bjornsson wrote: > Is it possible to trigger a sample to be played from the beginning to > the end only by sending a short note on/off message to the S760? > If the partial TVA release time is set to 127 there is a -3dB level > drop within a minute. is the envelope response adjustable? sorry if i'm completely off the track, i bought my 760 just a week ago, but the tvf response _is_ adjustable so the tva may be too... hmmm, maybe we both should read the manual... :) teemu :::: e-mail tkorpipa@siba.fi :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::: ruumen: http://www.siba.fi/~tkorpipa/ruumen.html ::::::::::::::: 'You only got one finger left and it's pointing at the door' - beck - - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 30 09:50:10 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-5368>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:48:55 -0500 Received: from frank.mtsu.edu ([161.45.128.109]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-5368>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:48:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (rein0200@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.mtsu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id IAA26995 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 08:51:12 -0600 (CST) Date:Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:51:11 -0500 From: Blondie To: sgroup Subject: sgroup s-50 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk Pleeeeeeeeeeease, someone who owns a s-50, 550 let me know if the machine can timestretch (ie - shorten or lenghten waves in direction of time) as I just sat in front of a monochrome screen for about two hours trying to figure this out. Blondie EtCetera - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 30 14:06:44 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-5368>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:05:31 -0500 Received: from smtp2.erols.com ([207.172.3.235]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-5368>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:05:21 -0500 Received: from [207.172.73.177] (207-172-73-177.s50.as3.man.erols.com [207.172.73.177]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09922 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:05:14 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: mrsyms@pop.erols.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date:Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:45:26 -0500 To: sgroup From: Tim Goodwin Subject: sgroup Pioneer and S-760 Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk Anyone know if the S-760 is compatible with the Pioneer DRU12x Mechanism? I'm thinking of purchasing a ClubMac 12X CD-ROM drive and this is the internal mechanism that it uses. Also, anyone had any experience dealing with ClubMac? Thanks Tim - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 30 14:28:36 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:28:15 -0500 Received: from l2.lonet.ca ([207.134.187.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-5368>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:28:07 -0500 Received: from paul (dialin150.lonet.ca [207.134.187.150]) by l2.lonet.ca (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11602) with SMTP id AAA71 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:19:18 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980130142504.006a3e80@Lonet.ca> X-Sender: PGingerich@Lonet.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date:Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:25:04 -0500 To: sgroup Illegal-Object: Syntax error in To: address found on hugin.uunet.ca: To: (sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca is old) ^ ^-missing end of address \-extraneous tokens in address From: Paul Gingerich Subject: Re: sgroup s-50 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk Timestretch without affecting pitch? Sorry. Unless there's some special utility I'm not aware of, it can't be done on the S-550 with the standard system or utilities. I don't think *any* of the s-series samplers even have the DSP power to perform such an operation. Paul ==================================================================== At 09:51 AM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >Pleeeeeeeeeeease, someone who owns a s-50, 550 let me know if the machine >can timestretch (ie - shorten or lenghten waves in direction of time) as I >just sat in front of a monochrome screen for about two hours trying to >figure this out. > >Blondie EtCetera > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 30 14:37:55 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193679-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:37:35 -0500 Received: from l2.lonet.ca ([207.134.187.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:37:20 -0500 Received: from paul (dialin150.lonet.ca [207.134.187.150]) by l2.lonet.ca (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11602) with SMTP id AAA182 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:28:28 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980130143414.00695b48@Lonet.ca> X-Sender: PGingerich@Lonet.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date:Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:34:14 -0500 To: sgroup Illegal-Object: Syntax error in To: address found on hugin.uunet.ca: To: (sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca is old) ^ ^-missing end of address \-extraneous tokens in address From: Paul Gingerich Subject: sgroup S550 library Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk Folks, In lieu of anything better to do with my GeoCities site, I've decided to focus on samples for my S-550. I've got very little time to make additions myself, so if anybody's got anything they'd like to contribute, lemme know and I'll put it up. My general considerations would be: - samples must be .wav format for use with the WPut and S550Lib utilities. - samples must be CLEAN. Noisy is bad enough, but convert to 8-bit? - got to be PD. No rips that I can get sued for. - should be generally useful. I've found too many sample sites that are just loaded with interesting, but unusable crap. In doubt? Lemme know. Nothing surprising here, I hope. Home page is at: http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/5050 Sample page is at: http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/5050/download_studio.html Always open to ideas. tty, Paul - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 30 14:57:25 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193680-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:56:33 -0500 Received: from www.agents-online.com ([207.87.0.33]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:56:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (sharvey@localhost) by www.agents-online.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18364; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:53:45 -0500 (EST) Date:Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:53:44 -0500 From: Steve Harvey To: Paul Gingerich cc: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup s-50 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980130142504.006a3e80@Lonet.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, Paul Gingerich wrote: > Timestretch without affecting pitch? Sorry. Unless there's some > special utility I'm not aware of, it can't be done on the S-550 with the > standard system or utilities. I don't think *any* of the s-series samplers > even have the DSP power to perform such an operation. > > Paul Actually, just so you know, the S-760 at least has a timestretch function. It's slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow but sounds very good - sounds noticably better than if I perform the same operation in Sound Forge on my PC and then import the sample to the S760. I don't know if the sampler is using specialized DSP hardware to do the timestretching, or if it's just a lot of number crunching done by the CPU. -Steve -- EGODEATH Productions http://www.thoughtshop.com/egodeath/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Fri Jan 30 15:47:10 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:44:52 -0500 Received: from rock101.genie.net ([199.164.140.11]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-5367>; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:44:46 -0500 Received: from rock103.genie.net (rock103.is.ge.com [204.90.131.103]) by rock101.genie.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01580 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:44:17 GMT Received: (from uucp@localhost) by rock103.genie.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA24942 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:44:16 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.geis.com Message-Id: <199801302044.UAA24942@rock103.genie.net> Received: by (genie.)rock103.genie.net ( 2rem/1.44 ) ; Fri, 30 Jan 98 20:44:16 GMT ( from inet# ; Fri, 30 Jan 98 20:44:10 GMT ) Date:Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:32:00 -0500 To: sgroup X-genie-QK-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-genie-QK-Id: 8486879 X-genie-Gateway-Id: 575999 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: sgroup Time stretch Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk Paul - The S-760 can timestretch without affecting pitch. You just put it in auto mode and it automatically adjusts. - Tommy > Timestretch without affecting pitch? Sorry. Unless there's some >special utility I'm not aware of, it can't be done on the S-550 with the >standard system or utilities. I don't think *any* of the s-series samplers >even have the DSP power to perform such an operation. > >Paul - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 31 06:28:05 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193672-16366>; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:26:12 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193671-16366>; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:26:02 -0500 Received: from sun.tir.com ([205.138.41.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:25:42 -0500 Received: from unknown (port41.mico04.tir.com [209.140.176.180]) by sun.tir.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA02638 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 06:25:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Read-Receipt-To: "Robert Harvey" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Robert Harvey" Subject: join sgroup Date:Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:52:20 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk I'm interested in joining your share group. I use a few Rola= nd products and am willing to contribute what I can...I am familiar with sdisk, samdisk,w30 conversion...how do = I join? = Robert Harvey - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 31 09:29:58 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193681-16366>; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:29:26 -0500 Received: from mail.cww.de ([193.189.224.209]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-16366>; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:29:22 -0500 Received: from 195.71.96.38 (dtmd-m96-38.pool.cww.de [195.71.96.38]) by mail.cww.de (8.8.7/8.8.7/powered by Telemedia) with SMTP id PAA16963 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 15:29:10 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34D33470.B9D@cww.de> Date:Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:25:57 -0500 From: Ingo Debus Reply-To: debus@cww.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup S550 library References: <3.0.1.32.19980130143414.00695b48@Lonet.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk Paul Gingerich wrote: > In lieu of anything better to do with my GeoCities site, I've decided to > focus on samples for my S-550. I've got very little time to make additions > myself, so if anybody's got anything they'd like to contribute, lemme know > and I'll put it up. > > My general considerations would be: > - samples must be .wav format for use with the WPut and S550Lib utilities. WAV files contain only sample loop points but not all the other tone and patch parameters. If your focus is on S-550 samples, maybe SDK/OUT format (SDISK/SAMDISK/SMAC) would be preferrable. There are tools to extract the samples from those files and convert them to WAV. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca From owner-sgroup Sat Jan 31 16:37:24 1998 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193685-16367>; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:25:50 -0500 Received: from l2.lonet.ca ([207.134.187.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193671-16367>; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:25:44 -0500 Received: from paul (dialin105.lonet.ca [207.134.187.105]) by l2.lonet.ca (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11602) with SMTP id AAA140 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:16:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980131162245.00696160@Lonet.ca> X-Sender: PGingerich@Lonet.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date:Sat, 31 Jan 1998 16:22:45 -0500 To: sgroup From: Paul Gingerich Subject: sgroup S550 sample conversion In-Reply-To: <34D33470.B9D@cww.de> References: <3.0.1.32.19980130143414.00695b48@Lonet.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup Precedence: bulk I'd noticed the fine-tuning requirement, actually, but I'm unfamiliar with any other way to do it. I've got SamDisk, but haven't really used it (ummm, don't know how). Anyways, I believe it outputs entire disk files, which would make storage and downloading more of a problem. (I personally don't really mind having to fine-tune the patches. Let's me set the samples up my way.) But, if there's more to it than my uneducated assumptions here, someone please help me out. I'm still new on this PC to sampler stuff. ICQ UIN = 4144409 if you like. Paul ============================================= >WAV files contain only sample loop points but not all the other tone and >patch parameters. If your focus is on S-550 samples, maybe SDK/OUT >format (SDISK/SAMDISK/SMAC) would be preferrable. >There are tools to extract the samples from those files and convert them >to WAV. > >Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca