From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Sep 1 12:43:59 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20710-3>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 12:43:55 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 12:26:22 -0400 Received: from services ([168.166.0.67]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 12:25:14 -0400 Received: from [128.206.1.168] by services (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA14701; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 11:25:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 12:25:06 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ofajen@services.state.mo.us (otto fajen) Subject: sgroup Re: s550 monitors Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Oh yeh, I forgot to reply to this earlier message of yours...yep you CAN use >an RF Converter..but you can use an ol' VCR just as well...just hook up a mono >RCA Cable from the monochrome out to the video in, and hook up an ol' TV and >yer set. I'd love to find one of those Ol' Color RGB Monitors though...I think >they were Roland CC120somethingorothers, anyone have any idea what other RGB >Montitors are compatible? i have one s550 hooked up to an old acorn rgb monitor. i think acorn was a computer brand in the uk, and may still exist. anyway, page 12 of the s550 manual states that the ibm model 5234 and roland dg cc-141 dispalys are compatible. the s550 rgb out has horizontal and vertical sync outs which are ttl negative and r, g and b outs that are ttl positive. so, the key is to check the signal outs listed in the monitor's manual and make sure the monitor inputs match. then you need to find the parts and build a cable to connect it up (or call roland and get one.... good luck!). otto - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Sep 1 19:55:02 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20710-3>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:54:52 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:42:57 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:42:07 -0400 Received: from dialup20.wr.com.au by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA15203; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:49:28 +1000 Message-Id: <9609012349.AA15203@wr.com.au> From: "Bernie Maier" To: "Roland Samplers List" Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:42:37 -0400 Reply-To: "Bernie Maier" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.5 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sgroup **** HELP: how to connect an S760 to a PowerMac + CD Player **** Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ai wrote: >Hello, > >I am trying to connect a Roland S760 sampler (software v2.23) >to a Power Macintosh 7100/66av (MacOS 7.5.1). The Mac has >a built-in 2x speed CDROM drive (from Apple). > >The SCSI setup is as follows: > >SCSI DEVICE >0 internal hard disk in Mac >3 CDROM drive inside Mac (Matshita CR-8004 1.0p) >5 S760 >7 Macintosh CPU 7.51 > >I would like to know how the S760 needs to be setup so that I can: > >1. load and read into the S760 a Roland- or Akai-format CDROM from > the Mac's CDROM drive > >2. load and read into the S760 an audio CD from > the Mac's CDROM drive > >According to the S760 Ver.2/OP-760-1 manual - in the back >pages, when I check whether the CD player is usable, I get >a "Not Supported" message - but I would think that the >CDROM drive on my Mac should be supported. Don't worry - my SCSI CD-ROM drive is "Not supported" also, but I can still play audio CDs on it. See below. >Also - in the System->SCSI menu page, under "CDP Driver Type", >what should this be set to? (I think I tried: Off, 1-7 >with no luck). Does the CDP driver setting only impact >how audio CD's are read and not Roland or Akai CDROM's? Correct - this setting does not affecting reading Roland or Akai CD-ROMs. >It is strange though - when the CDP Driver Type is set to 1, >Perform->Performance Play->CD Player shows a Not Supported, >but then pops back to another dialog showing Track/A-Time >and P-Time. (but pushing the Stop button doesn't change it to >a Play button - which I think it should). > >Also - I have an external 2x (or 4x?) CDROM drive - a >Toshiba XM-5201B. I am having the same unsupported drive >errors with it as with the interal CDROM drive on the Mac. >(Roland compatibility guide says that the: >TMX-5201B R is supported. But not this: XM-5201B >that I have? Basically, I think the whole audio CD business in the OS is a bit of a "let's fling this feature in, but don't spend too much time doing it" sort of thing. All I did was cycle through the CDP Driver settings until I found some that worked. All of them still said my CD-ROM drive was unsupported, but some actually played the CDs. Some of the settings would play the CD, but not update the time display. So, I recommend just trying out each setting and seeing if something works. >I really want to be careful not to set anything on the S760 >that could harm the Mac or it's internal hard disk. I'm >assuming that using SCSI ID5 for the S760 is OK. I don't think playing with the CDP Driver settings will harm anything. SCSI ID5 sounds fine for the S-760 in your setup. The important thing is that all the SCSI IDs in your chain are unique, which they are. > >Thanks for any help / pointers on this to: Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Death needs time." "Question: Why does death need time?" "Death needs time for what it kills to grow in..." William S. Burroughs - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Sep 1 20:19:12 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20710-2>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:19:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:57:46 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:54:37 -0400 Received: from dialup20.wr.com.au by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA15820; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:55:34 +1000 Message-Id: <9609012355.AA15820@wr.com.au> From: "Bernie Maier" To: "Roland Samplers List" Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:48:46 -0400 Reply-To: "Bernie Maier" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.5 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sgroup please send info about the s-10 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R joe.beuckman wrote: >Subject: sgroup please send info about the s-10 >i think i might trade for one of these What do you want to know? It is a 12bit sampler with 4s sample time at 30KHz and 8s sample time at 15KHz. It uses something called a "Quick-disk". (That is, there is no standard 3.5 inch diskette drive, and definitely no SCSI.) I'm not aware of any expansions for it. I have one, although the sampler functions of it seem to be fried, it still works as a MIDI master keyboard. I don't know whether it is just because it is the keyboard I'm familiar with, but I really like the way the S-10's keyboard feels - other (newer) keyboards I try in shops always feel more plasticky to me. Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Death needs time." "Question: Why does death need time?" "Death needs time for what it kills to grow in..." William S. Burroughs - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Sep 1 20:36:03 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20710-1>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:35:59 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:18:53 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:54:55 -0400 Received: from dialup20.wr.com.au by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA16317; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 10:00:13 +1000 Message-Id: <9609020000.AA16317@wr.com.au> From: "Bernie Maier" To: "Roland Samplers List" Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:53:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Bernie Maier" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.5 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sgroup Help needed! ZIP-drive with S750 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Bjarte Andreassen wrote: >I've bought myself a brand new Iomega ZIP-drive (100MB SCSI) for my Roland S750 sampler. >The one and only problem is that I can't figure out how to format the disks. >The OS recognizes the drive, but when I try to format it the sampler screen displays >"now formatting", but the read/write led on the ZIP drive is off and the drive is not spinning for >more than approx. one second. >I use SYS-772 ver. 2.23 with 10MB of RAM. > >All feedback would be really appreciated. Hmm. Have you checked for obvious SCSI problems? (Like duplicate IDs, termination.) I don't what the S-750's OS is like on this front, but for the S-760 I don't think I even needed to fully format the Zip disks, I recall the format screen had an option to simply "initialise" the disk. So, you may want to try any different options there are on the S-750's format screen. Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Death needs time." "Question: Why does death need time?" "Death needs time for what it kills to grow in..." William S. Burroughs - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Sep 1 20:59:13 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20710-1>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:59:03 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <137>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:45:37 -0400 Received: from watson.dn.net ([206.43.192.76]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:44:48 -0400 Received: from uu1.dn.net (uu1.dn.net [206.197.81.20]) by watson.dn.net (8.7.5/dn.mail3-gem/eal) with ESMTP id TAA01410; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:45:37 -0500 (GMT-0500) Received: from csgi.com (uucp@localhost) by uu1.dn.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id UAA07912; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:03:43 -0400 From: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com (Doug Ramsay) Reply-To: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com To: ofajen@services.state.mo.us Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Re: s550 monitors (1/2) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:01:35 -0400 Message-Id: <97120254.17256460@csgi.com> Organization: digitalNATION Internet Services Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On 9/1/96 at 4:25 PM, otto fajen wrote: > >Oh yeh, I forgot to reply to this earlier message of yours...yep > you CAN use >an RF Converter..but you can use an ol' VCR just as > well...just hook up a mono >RCA Cable from the monochrome out to the > video in, and hook up an ol' TV and >yer set. I'd love to find one > of those Ol' Color RGB Monitors though...I think >they were Roland > CC120somethingorothers, anyone have any idea what other RGB > >Montitors are compatible? > > i have one s550 hooked up to an old acorn rgb monitor. i think > acorn was a computer brand in the uk, and may still exist. anyway, > page 12 of the s550 manual states that the ibm model 5234 and roland > dg cc-141 dispalys are compatible. the s550 rgb out has horizontal > and vertical sync outs which are ttl negative and r, g and b outs > that are ttl positive. so, the key is to check the signal outs > listed in the monitor's manual and make sure the monitor inputs > match. then you need to find the parts and build a cable to connect > it up (or call roland and get one.... good luck!). > > otto You're right Otto, and because I know one day I'll need a new monitor for my S550, I began collecting threads on S550 monitors. I've included it below - hope it helps. peace- -Doug _______________________________________________________________________________________ I took the time to figure this out about a month ago. It turns out that an IBM CGA monitor will work if you invert the horizontal and vertical sync signals. I did this with a simple 7400-series TTL inverter chip. I put it in a small box which gets connected as shown below: +-------+ +----------+ +---------+ | | | | | | | S-550 |--------->| inverter |--------->| CGA | | | | box | | monitor | +-------+ +----------+ +---------+ Power for the inverter comes from one of the pins on the S-550 digital video output. >From memory, I believe the pinout diagrams for the video output in the S-550 manual are correct; I think they show the 8-pin DIN socket on the sample with positive sync signals. The pinout shown for the type of connector on the CGA monitor has negative sync signals, so I tried the inversion. People have told me that some Atari monitor works without an inverter, so I would imagine that some monitors accept non-inverted sync signals (or perhaps they can use either polarity). The Apple monitor may be that type. Anyway, this worked for me. Graham Doig (graham@vms.ecs.rpi.edu) Sr. Systems Programmer RPI ECS, Troy, NY 12180 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Roland S-50 RGB Output For Atari Color Monitors by KEITH MEIERE If you own a Roland S-50 sampler and an Atari SC1224 color monitor, here is an easy and inexpensive project for you to create a monitor cable to take advantage of the RGB output on your sampler. Since the Roland S-50 sampler has the ability to provide the user with a RGB color monitor output, why not put your Atari color monitor to good use? Normally, when creating and editing samples, your Atari computer is not being used anyway. What makes this project easy is that you are simply making a modified extension cable to connect the Atari monitor to the sampler. What makes this project inexpensive is the fact that the total investment in parts is under eleven dollars! --- MAKE IT --- The two connectors needed for the cable are an 8-pin male DIN connector and a 13-pin female Atari connector. Before connecting any wires, make sure you are using a low wattage soldering iron with a very fine tip. The pins on the female Atari connector are very close together and large ended soldering irons could cause some problems. Soldering pins 6 and 7 on the female Atari connector can be somewhat difficult because of the tight quarters. Before starting to solder any wires in place, hold the female Atari connector with vise grip pliers and use a pair of needlenose pliers to carefully remove the leads for pins 2 and 3 by pulling them up and out. These two pins are not needed since there are no wires to connect to them. This will give you a larger working area to maneuver the soldering iron when soldering wires in place. I recommend using a 3 to 4 foot cable but if you feel that the Atari monitor cable is long enough, you can use a very short cable to create an 8-pin to 13-pin "adaptor". After stripping and preparing the wires for soldering, make sure the plug covers and strain reliefs are properly placed over the cable (I always seem to forget to put these in place before it's too late). Follow the wiring diagram below. After soldering the six wires in place, make sure they match the wiring diagram and check the base of both connectors for any shorts due to excess solder. PINOUTS S-50 ATARI 13-PIN 8-PIN DIN MALE FEMALE GROUND 2 <-----> 13 GREEN HSYNC 4 <-----> 9 RED VSYNC 5 <-----> 12 HSYNC RED 6 <-----> 7 BLUE GREEN 7 <-----> 6 VSYNC BLUE 8 <-----> 10 GROUND --- TEST IT --- *** Continued in next message... *** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sent via digitalNATION Online Services http://www.dn.net Provider of Internet Access & Highspeed Web Server Services Specializing in WWW Solutions for Commerce & Enterprise ph:(703) 642-2800 fax: (703) 642-0516 email:info@dn.net -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Sep 1 21:13:33 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20773-3>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:13:26 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12853 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <126>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:58:56 -0400 Received: from watson.dn.net ([206.43.192.76]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <136>; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:44:44 -0400 Received: from uu1.dn.net (uu1.dn.net [206.197.81.20]) by watson.dn.net (8.7.5/dn.mail3-gem/eal) with ESMTP id TAA01407; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:45:36 -0500 (GMT-0500) Received: from csgi.com (uucp@localhost) by uu1.dn.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id UAA07913; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:03:44 -0400 From: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com (Doug Ramsay) Reply-To: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com To: ofajen@services.state.mo.us Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Re: s550 monitors (2/2) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:02:03 -0400 Message-Id: <97120254.17256484@csgi.com> Organization: digitalNATION Internet Services Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R The cable acts as an adaptor and plugs into the existing cable on the Atari monitor. (NOTE: If you have a JVC style Atari monitor with a removeable cable adaptor, do not remove it). Before connecting the cable to the sampler and monitor, * ENSURE THAT BOTH THE SAMPLER AND MONITOR ARE TURNED OFF! * After connecting the cable, turn on the monitor and sampler and you should see a nice legible display. If the screen looks somewhat distorted at the top or bottom, you may need to turn down the brightness and/or contrast levels of the monitor. If the distortion persists, adjust the HHold potentiometer on the back of the monitor. Be sure to use a non-metalic screwdriver or similar tool to adjust the potentiometer. This adjustment is quite easy since you do not need to remove the monitor cover. If the display looks alright then you are ready to edit samples using the luxury of a quality RGB monitor. NOTE: 1) The S-550/220/330 sampler MIGHT work with this same cable if the pinouts are the same, but, it is untested. 2) The author assumes no responsibility for modifications 3) Similar results may be possible using RGB color monitors other than the ATARI SC1224 --- PARTS LIST --- 8-Pin Male DIN Connector Part # LXS81 13-Pin Female Atari Connector Part # ATR13FSD 12 Conductor Shielded Cable Part # BCL-12S-10 (Fewest conductors and shortest cable available from ORA Electronics) Low Wattage Soldering Iron With Pencil Thin Tip Needlenose Pliers Vise Grip Pliers Wire Stripper Solder All Parts Available From; ORA Electronics 9410 Owensmouth Ave. Chatsworth, CA 91313 1-800-423-5336 ($25.00 min. order) 1024 >From host: digital nation Posted to conference: MailBox Message 1 5/27/96 3:50 PM Subject: Re: sgroup Monitors supported by OP-760 From: Jeremy Roberts,jeremy@sampleheads.com,Internet To: Doug Ramsay ,Internet >He says it definitely supports EGA and CGA monitors Not entirely true. I had nothing but trouble trying to make a "stock" CGA monitor work. Eventually, I gave up, bought an Atari SC1224 and everything was just fine. I have 2 of these now. The composite video out isn't all that bad! In fact, with a $19 RF modulator from radio shack, use the video out into any TV (even if it doesn't have video in). I do this whn I'm on the road and want to use the video in my hotel room. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com Original-From: aluxpo!wbf (William Fox) Message-Id: <9303171920.AA22719@alux1.cnet.att.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Monitors Status: R Way back on Sat, 6 Mar, email_addr@deleted wrote: > ... Also, what type of monitors can I hook up to my S550?? > Would any old monitor do, color or b/w??? Then on Sun, 7 Mar, mc wrote: > Someone posted details about how to invert the output of the S550 to drive > a CGA compatible monitor. Then he mentioned that some Atari monitors would > plug straight into the S550. > What Atari monitors are we talking about here??? Anyone done this before so > they know that it works 100%?? On my original S550, I used a Commodore 1084S because I heard that it worked with Roland's crazy inverted sync. It doesn't, at least not the one I have. Maybe an earlier model did. So, thanks to the sgroup, I bought an STV-II for $99.95. I tried calling PBC but they seem to have dropped off of the face of the earth. The data I had on them is: PBC 11026 West Washington Blvd. Culver City, California 90230 213-838-2180 213-838-6841 Other information from those old posts: ------------------------------------------- Sender: "Donald_C._Tycholis.LAX1B"@xerox.com I've got an AST EGA color monitor on my S-550 and it works beautifully. Also, an NEC MultiSync Plus works as well, yet no better even though the resolution is much higher. The cable I'm using is the standard Roland RGB Monitor Cable for the S-550. -------------------------------------------- Within the last year, I bought a used S550 and Atari SC1435 monitor. The Roland cable I have doesn't work with it but the seller gave me a ($50) cable that does. He has lost the data on the cable's supplier. So I just called Roland and spoke to Corey who said that Redmond Cable 615-478-5760 makes cables for all the Roland samplers. I called and found out that the cable for my Atari SC1435 (no part number!) requires no electronics and costs $24 plus shipping and handling. My Commodore 1084S requires a $42 cable that does have electronics. Hope this helps. --------------------- David Weaver wrote and mentioned the Atari SC1224 works with the above RGB cables. Mitchellville, MD 20721 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sent via digitalNATION Online Services http://www.dn.net Provider of Internet Access & Highspeed Web Server Services Specializing in WWW Solutions for Commerce & Enterprise ph:(703) 642-2800 fax: (703) 642-0516 email:info@dn.net -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Sep 2 00:48:45 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20710-1>; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 00:48:34 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 00:33:14 -0400 Received: from zook.lafn.org ([206.117.18.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 00:32:24 -0400 Received: from [192.168.14.19] ([192.168.14.19]) by zook.lafn.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA11220 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:26:42 -0700 X-Sender: ag506@mail.lafn.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 00:35:36 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ag506@lafn.org (Jerry Summers) Subject: Re: sgroup Re: s550 monitors Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I've been happily using my old Apple IIc monitor for several years now. It's not color, but neither does it require any five or twenty or hundred dollar adapters, just an RCA cable. Maybe they're cheap these days? ================================================================ Jerry Summers ag506@lafn.org I'll defend to the death my God-given right to be totally wrong. ================================================================ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Sep 2 03:20:16 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20710-3>; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:20:08 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:01:10 -0400 Received: from watson.dn.net ([206.43.192.76]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:59:34 -0400 Received: from uu1.dn.net (uu1.dn.net [206.197.81.20]) by watson.dn.net (8.7.5/dn.mail3-gem/eal) with ESMTP id CAA04079; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:00:35 -0500 (GMT-0500) Received: from csgi.com (uucp@localhost) by uu1.dn.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id CAA11039; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:02:39 -0400 From: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com (Doug Ramsay) Reply-To: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com To: emanning@telecom.ie Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Re[3]: sgroup Formatting a HD connected to an Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:48:12 -0400 Message-Id: <3766214142.18555503@csgi.com> Organization: digitalNATION Internet Services Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On 8/30/96 at 9:38 AM, emanning@telecom.ie wrote: > Hi Doug (and all), > > I assume from this note that you are hoping to boot from the hard disk > - i.e. load the o.s. This is not automatically saved when saving a > sample set to hard disk. The good reason for this is that you want > your hard disk to have only one predetermined o.s. > > So you must use another option under the hard disk menu called "Save > System" or "Copy System" or some such title (I'm at my workplace). > > HOWEVER ... the S550 will not boot from some hard disks - even though > they work perfectly for sample save/load. This appears to be luck of > the draw if using anything other then a pure(?) Apple hard disk. I'm > using an IBM 80Mb disk and it doesn't boot. This means that I have to > boot from the CDROM/SCSI floppy first. My hard disk also has to be > "awoken" upon boot by going into the SCSI check option. > > I hope these tips are useful. I would greatly appreciate if anyone > has anything to offer Hi Ed, et.al Originally that wasn't my question, but now that I have my Apple 40MB HD loaded with samples, how can I save the HD-1F System to the HD? I noticed in posts from last year that people mentioned the HD had to be set to some low SCSI ID # (0 or 1). Mine is currently set at 6 and is the only SCSI peripheral connected to my S550. I noticed that if I do change the SCSI ID to 0 or 1, I get a HD connect error. Can I save the OS to anywhere on the HD or someplace special? Also, it seems that I can save up to four OS's to the HD. Will the HD boot to whatever OS is called "HD System #1"? Thanks for all assistance. Doug - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sent via digitalNATION Online Services http://www.dn.net Provider of Internet Access & Highspeed Web Server Services Specializing in WWW Solutions for Commerce & Enterprise ph:(703) 642-2800 fax: (703) 642-0516 email:info@dn.net -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Sep 2 06:30:39 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20710-3>; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 06:30:35 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA31375 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 06:30:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 06:13:55 -0400 Received: from snoop.uni.net ([194.20.96.129]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 06:12:31 -0400 Received: from I5-P2.uni.net by snoop.uni.net (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id ya320552 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:11:30 +0200 Message-ID: <322B316A.6BDC@relay.uni.net> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:11:38 -0400 From: Giovanni Vogrig Organization: Editoriale la Repubblica Spa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S330 and SCSI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi guys, Does anybody know if I can connect my S-330 to a SCSI device? I don't see any optional port on the rear panel of my S-330 (like the S-550 has), so I assume that no optional SCSI board can be installed in the S-330. Am I wrong? Any other option to connect a SCSI device to my S-330? Am I locked in the "stick-in-stick-out-that-fuckin-floppy" forever? Thanks from Italy. P.S. I have the sequencer package for S-550 unused (wrong gift). Anybody interested? Ciao! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Sep 4 02:56:36 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20773-2>; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 02:56:27 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA05775 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 02:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 02:45:50 -0400 Received: from watson.dn.net ([206.43.192.76]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 02:44:59 -0400 Received: from uu1.dn.net (uu1.dn.net [206.197.81.20]) by watson.dn.net (8.7.5/dn.mail3-gem/eal) with ESMTP id BAA06629 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:45:54 -0500 (GMT-0500) Received: from csgi.com (uucp@localhost) by uu1.dn.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id CAA05234 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 02:02:53 -0400 From: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com (Doug Ramsay) Reply-To: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup s550 monitors Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:52:44 -0400 Message-Id: <61997022.28734298@csgi.com> Organization: digitalNATION Internet Services Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi sampleheadz: I've collected a few threads over the last few years on the subject 'cause I've been interested to know what monitors can be used with the S550. I, like a few of us, use an Apple //c green monochrome monitor with mine. Works great, but I know of a few other than the ones in the S550 manual, so I'm putting together a monitor list to be posted here soon. In the mean time, can anyone give some info on the models below (all Apple II) regarding whether they may work. Again, I'll post the results. #A2M6016 (mono) #A2M6021 (IIe, color composite) #A3M0039 (III, 13" green mono) Thanks in advance, Doug - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sent via digitalNATION Online Services http://www.dn.net Provider of Internet Access & Highspeed Web Server Services Specializing in WWW Solutions for Commerce & Enterprise ph:(703) 642-2800 fax: (703) 642-0516 email:info@dn.net -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Sep 5 05:56:51 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA16591 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:56:50 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:46:52 -0400 Received: from snoop.uni.net ([194.20.96.129]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:45:56 -0400 Received: from I4-P3.uni.net by snoop.uni.net (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id qa322598 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:45:07 +0200 Message-ID: <322F1FBA.EBB@relay.uni.net> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:45:14 -0400 From: Giovanni Vogrig Organization: Editoriale la Repubblica Spa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S330 and SCSI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I know, I've already sent this message, but I didn't get any "fficial" answer. (Grazie Brunello, messaggio ricevuto!) Hi guys, Does anybody know if I can connect my S-330 to a SCSI device? I don't see any optional port on the rear panel of my S-330 (like the S-550 has), so I assume that no optional SCSI board can be installed in the S-330. Am I wrong? Any other option to connect a SCSI device to my S-330? Am I locked in the "stick-in-stick-out-that-fuckin-floppy" forever? ANY OFFICIAL YES OR NO FROM ROLAND OR FROM S-330 GURU? Thanks from Italy. P.S. I have the sequencer package for S-550 unused (wrong gift). Anybody interested? Ciao! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Sep 5 06:10:17 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA16815 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:10:16 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:58:07 -0400 Received: from snoop.uni.net ([194.20.96.129]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:56:47 -0400 Received: from I4-P3.uni.net by snoop.uni.net (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id ta322601 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:47:27 +0200 Message-ID: <322F2046.2106@relay.uni.net> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:47:34 -0400 From: Giovanni Vogrig Organization: Editoriale la Repubblica Spa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b6Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S-330 and SCSI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I know, I've already sent this message, but I didn't get any "official" answer. (Grazie Brunello, messaggio ricevuto!) Hi guys, Does anybody know if I can connect my S-330 to a SCSI device? I don't see any optional port on the rear panel of my S-330 (like the S-550 has), so I assume that no optional SCSI board can be installed in the S-330. Am I wrong? Any other option to connect a SCSI device to my S-330? Am I locked in the "stick-in-stick-out-that-fuckin-floppy" forever? *** ANY OFFICIAL YES OR NO FROM ROLAND OR FROM S-330 GURU? *** Thanks from Rome, Italy. P.S. I have the sequencer package for S-550 unused (wrong gift). Anybody interested? Ciao! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Sep 5 15:37:04 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28906 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:37:00 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA08865 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:29:05 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:28:15 -0400 Received: from [164.67.21.68] (ts6-7.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.68]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA32200 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:27:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:27:58 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup compatibilities Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R The 760 can read Akai files, right? If so, how well does it translate? is there much reprogramming that needs to be done? Thanks, cRaig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Sep 5 18:32:09 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04641 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:32:08 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22016 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:22:54 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET ([192.48.96.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:22:05 -0400 Received: from uucp5.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp5.UU.NET [192.48.96.36]) id QQbfxh29945; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp5.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:21:54 -0400 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id PAA08698; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:09:21 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:09:34 -0400 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup compatibilities To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>sgroup compatibilities uunet!ucla.edu!cmarks (Craig Marks) asks: > The 760 can read Akai files, right? If so, how well does it translate? is > there much reprogramming that needs to be done? Thanks, cRaig 1. Envelopes, LFOs, and other real-time programming stuff seem to convert fairly well; at least, stuff sounds OK when played from the S-760. I have not had a chance to compare the way the same files sound on the 760 vs. an Akai. Electronic Musician, I believe, had an article on sample file conversion perhaps six or eight months ago, and they gave the 760 good marks for conversion, and low marks for speed (it really is pretty slow). 2. Velocity splits do not always translate well. 3. Because of the slowness of conversion, you will probably want to save the converted files to Roland media, rather than re-converting them every time. 4. Roland uses pre-emphasis on sample input, and then de-emphasizes on output. Akai (along with all other sampler manufacturers other than Roland) does not use emphasis. This means that the converted Akai samples play back through the de-emphasis filter, which causes a slight high-frequency rolloff. Roland recommends using the internal EQ to boost 3 or 4 dB at 6kHz. In practice, I have not found this rolloff to be much of an issue; this will vary depending upon your tastes and the nature of the sample being converted. 5. The S-760 includes a destructive DSP process to add Roland's emphasis to a sample, which avoids the rolloff on converted samples. However, this also changes gain (since it's boosting high frequencies) and thus in practice requires you to adjust the gain during the DSP process to avoid distortion. The few times that I've tried this, I've spent a while adjusting the gain, performed the (not quick) DSP process, listened to the sample to make sure that it hadn't clipped, and if it *did* clip, reduce gain again and re-do...rather time-consuming. So, since I haven't really been bothered much by the rolloff, and can compensate with EQ when necessary, I don't use the destructive DSP emphasis. 6. As part of the conversion process, Volume ID is used to avoid having two files with the same name; Partials will usually be named: 1. A00:GRAND PIANO 2. A01:GRAND PIANO 3. A02:GRAND PIANO I like to use the Volume ID to keep track of the different categories in my sound library, so I change the IDs of the converted Akai samples as well. However, astute 760 users will note that the Set Volume ID command will balk at changing the ID of the above Partials, since if the IDs were identical, they would suddenly all have the same name. First, then, you have to set the ID of the Patch, and then use the Rename Partials command. This also lets you rename the files using the highly sophisticated non-Akai feature of - whoooo - mixed upper and lower case characters! (Perhaps the S1000 actually did allow use of lower case, but it doesn't seem to show up in the Akai sample libraries that I've seen.) - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Sep 6 00:43:37 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA15058 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:43:36 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:35:17 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:34:28 -0400 Received: from [164.67.22.102] (ts38-9.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.102]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA22886 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 21:34:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:34:03 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup Interrupt Error Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R The strangest thing started happening tonight. I have a set of Volume/Performance/Patch/etc. info. for the 760 stored on a Jaz cart. I have loaded it all into the 760 once before. Now, whenever I attempt to load any of the Perf/Vol/Patch info, it says "!Error: Interrupt Error." Then, before I touch anything, I get a dialog box type thingee that looks like this: Confirmation ! Error ! 1: Interrupt Error 2: 3: 4: 5: OK It gives me no choice but Ok. Anyway, this makes it impossible to load anything in from the disk. What does interrupt error mean? I'm doing this with only the Jaz drive, Cd drive, and 760 on. Has anyone encountered this before? Did I do something wrong? Any suggestions? -Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Sep 6 21:23:11 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12285 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:23:06 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:03:06 -0400 Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au ([203.12.176.157]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:02:10 -0400 Received: from 203.61.32.29 (d29-1.cpe.Toowoomba.aone.net.au [203.61.32.29]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.13/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA04254 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 11:01:19 +1000 Message-ID: <323155A7.46A8@mail01.twb.aone.net.au> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 06:59:53 -0400 From: Unity Gain Studio Reply-To: unitygain@t130.aone.net.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Mac - S760 drive share Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------50AD4D3F22CD" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------50AD4D3F22CD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of a utility or method which would allow the s760 and a Mac to share a scsi drive. I have TransferStation and this will read an s760 volume and copy data to aiff files, but I want to keep partial, patch and programme info too. I have a syquest 270 removable, but would like to be able to access one of my Mac drives directly from the s760. Is this a matter of formatting or will it never happen? Colin Webber UnityGain Studio --------------50AD4D3F22CD Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Base: "http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/3428 /" Unity Gain Home Page <BODY> <P>This page is intended to be viewed by a browser which supports Netscape's Frames extension. This text will be shown by browsers which do not support the Frames extension.</P> </BODY> --------------50AD4D3F22CD-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Sep 10 19:24:52 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03909 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:24:50 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:08:57 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:08:05 -0400 Received: from dialup02.wr.com.au by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA25890; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:16:02 +1000 Message-Id: <9609102316.AA25890@wr.com.au> From: "Bernie Maier" To: "Roland Samplers List" Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 19:08:43 -0400 Reply-To: "Bernie Maier" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.5 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sgroup compatibilities Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Craig Marks wrote: >The 760 can read Akai files, right? If so, how well does it translate? is >there much reprogramming that needs to be done? Thanks, cRaig Yes, it can. I can't really say how well they translate because I've never heard the samples played on an Akai. The samples I've tried were somewhat disappointing compared to S-760 samples from various sources. I know the S-760 samples all have some "pre-emphasis" or something to brighten them up. I've tried doing this manually on the Akai samples after loading them (this is easy to do), but I didn't hear much difference. So, either the original samples weren't good to begin with, or the translation isn't that good. Does anyone else have a different experience? Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Death needs time." "Question: Why does death need time?" "Death needs time for what it kills to grow in..." William S. Burroughs - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Sep 11 04:26:16 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA15352 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:26:13 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:14:21 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 04:13:30 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA05078; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:13:20 -0200 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:13:17 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Roland cc: Roland Samplers List Subject: sgroup QUESTION: 760 - creating a CD-Rom In-Reply-To: <9609102316.AA25890@wr.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Please could someone mail me the info on how to write a CD from an external H/D to a CD-Rom? I would also like to know how to do this on a WIN95 PC? Thank you for your time Aubrey Kloppers PS - Does anyone in the group see a reason why an editor does not exist for the S7xx series of samplers? ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Sep 11 18:37:18 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04584 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:37:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:25:34 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:24:44 -0400 Received: from [38.14.108.64] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id SAA27700; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:24:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199609112224.SAA27700@smtp2.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup QUESTION: 760 - creating a CD-Rom Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:27:39 -0400 x-sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Does anyone in the group see a reason why an editor does not exist >for the S7xx series of samplers? Hook up a video monitor! :-) >Please could someone mail me the info on how to write a CD from an >external H/D to a CD-Rom? Just burn a "scsi image" or a "disc image" (terminology depends on the CD writing software). It's really quite simple... For manufacturing, we do a few extra steps... such as "optimize" the files by re-writing all files to a newly formatted drive, so there is no fragmentation (read: faster disc access time to user).... but for personal use, just burn it. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Sep 11 20:19:36 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06161 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:19:33 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:07:33 -0400 Received: from uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:06:43 -0400 Received: from [10.0.2.15] (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm) by uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00600; Wed, 11 Sep 96 19:06:59-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:06:59 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm (Richard Sven Patterson) Subject: sgroup Output Mode on the S-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I have had my S-760 for about two years now and I decided to re-read the manual out of curiousity, and I noticed the Output Mode. I have the OP board and the DA-400 and have always used the 4st option in the output mode and it works for me, but reading the manual, except for the Mix mode and couldn't tell the difference between the other three modes. This is one inadequate manual, when I first got the S-760 I figured since I was new to sampling, was the reason why a lot of the manual didn't make sense. I have tried other options, and they all sound alike to me (with the exception of MIX of course), whichever option I choose, if I choose say output C for a part, I can hear the patch in stereo if it is a stereo patch and I can pan it. >From the manual I thought only the 4st option would allow me to do that. Could someone who understands the options, please explain the difference to me? thanks in advance, richard sven richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 809-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 809-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Sep 11 20:56:33 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06826 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:56:32 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:46:46 -0400 Received: from uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:46:12 -0400 Received: from [10.0.2.15] (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm) by uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01138; Wed, 11 Sep 96 19:09:20-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:09:18 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm (Richard Sven Patterson) Subject: sgroup some prices Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, Has anyone in this group bought the Glyph SCSI switcher or any such device that will allow someone to use say three S-760 on one SCSI chain and if so, about how much does this unit cost, and what is your experience good/bad with this unit. Also in the last IN the Loop ( which seems now to be dead since Jim Norman has become management), they mentioned a third party unit that allows several, I think up to four S-760 to share one mouse and monitor, does anyone know the price of this unit? thanks, richard sven richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 809-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 809-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Sep 12 04:34:36 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA17841 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:34:34 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:22:58 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:22:05 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00804; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:21:38 -0200 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:21:37 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Jeremy Roberts cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup QUESTION: 760 - creating a CD-Rom In-Reply-To: <199609112224.SAA27700@smtp2.interramp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R First of all, I would like to say, THANK YOU JEMERY for all the time you spend to answer questions. I know that you have got a business to run. Now for my question: How do I see how much space is used on a disk? I would like to use the most amount of space available possable. Thank you for your time Aubrey Kloppers On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Jeremy Roberts wrote: > >Does anyone in the group see a reason why an editor does not exist > >for the S7xx series of samplers? > > Hook up a video monitor! :-) > > >Please could someone mail me the info on how to write a CD from an > >external H/D to a CD-Rom? > > Just burn a "scsi image" or a "disc image" (terminology depends on the CD > writing software). It's really quite simple... > > For manufacturing, we do a few extra steps... such as "optimize" the > files by re-writing all files to a newly formatted drive, so there is no > fragmentation (read: faster disc access time to user).... but for > personal use, just burn it. > > JR > > > ****************************** > * Jeremy Roberts * > * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * > * http://www.sampleheads.com * > ****************************** > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Sep 12 19:24:51 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA05947 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:24:49 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <126>; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:10:45 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:09:53 -0400 Received: from [38.14.108.39] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id TAA25494; Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:09:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199609122309.TAA25494@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup QUESTION: 760 - creating a CD-Rom Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:13:00 -0400 x-sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "sgroup" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >How do I see how much space is used on a disk? I would like to use the >most amount of space available possable. go to DISK:SAVE or DISK:LOAD and the available time in seconds will apear... do the math and you can figure out how many megs, etc... You should know that the maximum formatted partition is 600 megs... so using a 1 gig drive is a waste, etc... there is no way to make a partition that is too large to burn a CD. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Sep 19 01:39:56 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA05870 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:39:54 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:29:51 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:29:09 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA00945; Thu, 19 Sep 1996 07:28:28 -0200 Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 05:28:23 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Roland Subject: sgroup How do I load AKAI samples? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I would like to know how to load AKAI samples on a S760 running OS2.23? Can anyone assist? Thank you for your time. Aubrey Kloppers South Afirca ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Sep 23 11:45:33 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22854 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:45:32 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:33:23 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:32:32 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au (wr.com.au [203.12.42.10]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11171 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 09:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from auxr5.wr.com.au by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AB27039; Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:55:45 +1000 Message-Id: <9609221355.AB27039@wr.com.au> From: "Bernie Maier" To: "Roland Samplers List" Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:42:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Bernie Maier" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.5 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sgroup How do I load AKAI samples? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Aubrey wrote: >I would like to know how to load AKAI samples on a S760 running OS2.23? >Can anyone assist? >Thank you for your time. >Aubrey Kloppers >South Afirca I think it hasn't changed from previous OSes: Convert Load under the Disk menu. Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Death needs time." "Question: Why does death need time?" "Death needs time for what it kills to grow in..." William S. Burroughs - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Sep 23 14:26:09 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27919 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:26:08 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:19:03 -0400 Received: from acs3.bu.edu ([128.197.153.30]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:18:13 -0400 Received: (from jawbox@localhost) by acs3.bu.edu (8.7.5/) id OAA94174 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:12:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:12:59 -0400 From: jawbox@bu.edu Message-Id: <199609231812.OAA94174@acs3.bu.edu> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Director S Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Anyone have a copy of the manual for this. i've asked before but i lost the email of the guy who had it. peace -PMA - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Sep 25 21:01:01 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13187 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 21:01:00 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:46:18 -0400 Received: from alpha.pcix.com ([204.179.180.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:45:25 -0400 Received: from [204.179.183.1] (hingham1.pcix.com [204.179.183.1]) by alpha.pcix.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA07585 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:45:05 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (Forrest Trenholm) Subject: sgroup Sound Tools Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Very sorry that this is unrealated to Roland but I was searching for information regarding Sound tools and a link with the name kloppers came up and it rang a bell. Aubrey I believe. My question, if any one else might know. A friend at work has had this Mac CX for a few years and when she got it ,it came with an interface a Nu-bus card, disks manual etc for Sound tools, She showed me the interface and had a scrap of paper mentioning Pro-Audio Spectrum 16, and Pas 16 Mixer etc, but I know nothing about this, she is a graphic artist (me too) and has no use for it. What can it do and what is it worth? Anybody have a clue, Thanks Ugmold this inn't realated to Pro Tools is it? "A Monkey in Silk is still a Monkey" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca