From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 1 07:03:59 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-1>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 07:03:54 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 06:51:11 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 06:50:16 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA02053; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:49:56 -0200 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:49:55 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Roland Subject: sgroup Creating Rolans S760 CD's. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I would like to thank all concerned (including Jeremy from the sampeling company) for the great amout of info that I got wrt the topic. I am almost sure that I will be able to create a CD. Just one thing that I would like to know... How do you tell the amout of free disk space on a sampeling disk? That is, I have got a 500meg disk connected to my S760 and would like to know how much space I have left. Thanks Aubrey Kloppers Suid Afrika ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 1 22:30:19 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:30:06 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:17:42 -0400 Received: from arl-img-4.compuserve.com ([198.4.7.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:16:47 -0400 Received: by arl-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id WAA17136; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:16:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:15:09 -0400 From: dennis barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> To: Subject: sgroup S550 disks for sale Message-ID: <960702021508_70531.2124_FHH108-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi all, I wrote to the list about a week ago looking for an S550. Thanks to all who offered me one... I got one last weekend and all is good. The fellow that sold me this s550 had the Roland disk library and wouldn't sell the sampler without the disks.. :( I already have two Roland samplers so I had the complete Roland library already. So... I had to buy em as part of the package and now I'd like to sell this set of disks. It is perfect copies of the very excellent sound disk sets RSB-5501, 5502, 5503, 5504, 5505, and 5506. Each set is ten disks for a total of sixty disks. The sets cover Piano, bass, Rhodes, strings, guitars, drums etc etc. TONS of great stuff! Please make me an offer. I could just erase em and use the disks, but they really are way too good for that. Offers? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 1 22:46:23 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-3>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:46:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:29:47 -0400 Received: from wurley.apana.org.au ([203.12.237.25]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:17:37 -0400 Received: from cydonia (dialup-05.wurley.apana.org.au [203.12.237.108]) by wurley.apana.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA05683 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:31:37 +1000 Message-ID: <31D878E3.78E8@wurley.apana.org.au> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:18:27 -0400 From: Vladimir Tittl X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Archives Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Can someone please give me the archive address, so I can look up any S-550 info there is? Regards, Vladimir -- "It is unbelievable that environmentalists can still be eating hamburgers, hot dogs, and other highly processed foods that directly contribute to loss of biodiversity and global warming." ---- Macrobiotic Diet by Michio and Aveline Kushi - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 2 10:13:10 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-3>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:12:58 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:57:50 -0400 Received: from service1.cc.uky.edu ([128.163.18.80]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:57:00 -0400 Received: from [128.163.80.175] ([128.163.80.175]) by service1.cc.uky.edu (8.7.Beta.13/8.7.Beta.13) with SMTP id JAA29987 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:56:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: service1.cc.uky.edu: Host [128.163.80.175] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960702095544.1c2f8082@pop.uky.edu> X-Sender: mattone@pop.uky.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: Michael Mattone Subject: sgroup Using preformatted disks w/ a W-30... Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I have a W-30 sampler running OS 1.10. When I try to format a disk that has already been formatted for an IBM or compatible, the floppy is left with only 6% free upon completion and, as a result, I cannot save anything to this disk. I thought it might have been a hardware problem until I called Roland Tech Suppport and had them try it. They got the same result I did. Has anyone else come across this problem and, better yet, figured out a solution? If so, is it IBM specific (i.e., do the disks have to be completely unformatted or just not formatted for IBM compatibles)? I have quite a large number of factory-formatted (for IBM) disks that I would really like to use. Besides getting a big magnet and cleaning the disks that way, does anyone have any suggestions that I might try? Thanks, -Mike Mattone (mattone@pop.uky.edu) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 2 03:20:29 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-3>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 03:20:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 03:05:59 -0400 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com ([192.100.81.125]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 03:04:46 -0400 Received: from [192.0.2.1] (interval@netcom13.netcom.com [192.100.81.125]) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id AAA13917; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:04:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 03:04:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199607020704.AAA13917@netcom13.netcom.com> X-Sender: interval@127.0.0.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: interval@netcom.com (Scott Morgan) Subject: Re: sgroup Mac/Roland CD Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >Does anyone know how I can read a Roland Format (s700 series) CDRom with >The Macintosh? Yes, my TransferStation software. Check the Website: www.imuse.com _________ Scott Morgan __ Interval Music Systems ________ interval@netcom.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 3 13:31:24 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:31:18 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id NAA02108 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:31:06 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:15:32 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:14:42 -0400 Received: from [164.67.22.72] (ts36-11.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.72]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA38216 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:56:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:56:22 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup 760 SIMM installation Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R What is the procedure to install SIMMS into the 760? (besides taking it to an authorized dealer, yadah yadah yada....) I've installed SIMMs in my mac and my K2000 without any problems. How do I get into the unit -- through the space on the back for the expansion? Do I take the entire thing apart from the top? Any guidance you could offer would be wonderful. Thanks so much. -Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 3 14:17:09 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:17:03 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:06:27 -0400 Received: from kcgw1.att.com ([192.128.133.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:05:38 -0400 Received: by kcig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id NAA29706; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:03:40 -0500 From: wbf@aloft.att.com To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA16203; Wed, 3 Jul 96 14:04:46 EDT Received: from acropolis (acropolis.cnet.att.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA13804; Wed, 3 Jul 96 14:04:50 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA12675; Wed, 3 Jul 96 14:04:48 EDT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:04:48 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9607031804.AA12675@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup 760 SIMM installation Content-Type: text Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:56:22 -0400 > X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu (Unverified) > To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > Orig-From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) > Subject: sgroup 760 SIMM installation > Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > What is the procedure to install SIMMS into the 760? (besides taking it to > an authorized dealer, yadah yadah yada....) I've installed SIMMs in my mac > and my K2000 without any problems. How do I get into the unit -- through > the space on the back for the expansion? Do I take the entire thing apart > from the top? Any guidance you could offer would be wonderful. Thanks so > much. -Craig Hey Craig, Yes. Take the top cover off of your S760 and carefully insert your SIMMs into the sockets. Wear an anti-static wrist strap to prevent anything inside from being zapped. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 3 17:02:10 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:01:57 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:50:58 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:50:06 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.7) id NAA25580; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:49:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:49:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199607032049.NAA25580@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup choir CDROM Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Could anyone recommend a good s-700 series CDROM focusing on human voices? I like stuff like dark lush choir samples. thanks! Chris Kirkham clkirkham@ucdavis.edu - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 3 23:20:34 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:20:23 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:10:54 -0400 Received: from upsmot02.msn.com ([204.95.110.79]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:10:00 -0400 Received: from upmajb06 ([204.95.110.89]) by upsmot02.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id UAA07394 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:08:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:10:26 -0400 From: "Jason Darien" Message-Id: To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup 750--Monitor question Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I've got a problem that is completely bamboozling me.... I have a 750 with 18 megs..I don't use it as often as I would like...but when I do it has been great..I use a Thompson monitor ( It's rather old, I bought it used). Well when I went to boot up the unit the other day...the monitor wasn't working...it was all distorted (I could see the 750 menu on it,and I was using the CRT input ) but it was all diagonal and bent out of shape...Sort of like when you're in between two channels on a TV...I took it to Sam Ash and they said they didn't repair that brand....And I was gonna post to the list and ask for recommendations for a type of monitor....Well just to see if I could get it to work on a regular TV (so I didn't have to spend the bread)...I hooked up the 750 to the TV, via a Sega RF adapter, and.....I GOT THE SAME DISTORTION!! Now could someone tell me if they have encountered this problem before....? Or if it's a problem with my unit??..Should I take it to a service center? Sorry for the winded post....But I need some advice....I figured I'd ask the gurus...Any help would be appreciated.... Thanks... Jason - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 4 00:59:56 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:59:45 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id AAA22002 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:59:29 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:49:02 -0400 Received: from tribeca.ios.com ([198.4.75.48]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:27:08 -0400 Received: from [169.132.100.35] (ppp-35.ts-12.nyc.idt.net [169.132.100.35]) by tribeca.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA12527 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:26:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:26:49 -0400 X-Sender: petea@tribeca.ios.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: petea@tribeca.ios.com (Pete Ankelein) Subject: sgroup S-760 Patch split question... Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi folks, I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I'm having w/ the 760. I know how to set up a patch split where I assign individual partials to each key but for some reason ( I know this sounds stupid), I can't seem to assign 1 partial to all the keys, where the pitch of the sample actually changes along with the key (i.e., using an 808 sample for a bassline). Everytime I try it, I get the same pitch on all keys...I keep going over and over it and can't seem to find what I'm missing. If someone could drop me a quick email, I'd appreciate it...thanks in advance. Re'z, Pete - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 4 14:58:04 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-2>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:57:55 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id OAA29712 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:57:50 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:26:01 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET ([192.48.96.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:24:50 -0400 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp2.UU.NET [192.48.96.33]) id QQawyb09501; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:23:12 -0400 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id LAA14109; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:20:54 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:22:56 -0400 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 Patch split To: "Pete Ankelein" , "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>sgroup S-760 Patch split question... uunet!tribeca.ios.com!petea (Pete Ankelein) writes: > I know how to set up a patch split where I assign individual > partials to each key but for some reason ( I know this sounds stupid), I > can't seem to assign 1 partial to all the keys, where the pitch of the > sample actually changes along with the key (i.e., using an 808 sample for a > bassline). Everytime I try it, I get the same pitch on all keys... Two things: 1. The Partial SMT page K.F (Pitch Key Follow) should be set to Norm (8/8). This is the parameter that determines pitch/keyboard tracking. 2. Transposition is limited to 2 octaves up from the root pitch. Above that point, the 760 will simply repeat the same pitch. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 4 16:59:16 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-3>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:59:07 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:46:39 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:45:49 -0400 Received: from [164.67.20.143] (ts20-2.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.143]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA27052 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:38:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:38:46 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup expansion option installation Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Wow, there are far too many "...tion"s in the subject of this post! :) I should be getting the expansion option for my 760 tomorrow and I need to install it. Is this something that is best left to a service center (I know the official answer is "yes" but I need the real answer). Installing simms is no problem. Is it any more difficult than that? Have any of you done it yourself? Could you summarze the process for me? Thanks -- Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 4 18:08:14 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-3>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:08:09 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id SAA05445 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:08:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:57:16 -0400 Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com ([198.68.32.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:56:26 -0400 Received: from primenet.com (root@usr07.primenet.com [198.68.32.17]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA04273 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:56:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from [204.212.59.34] (ip034.lax.primenet.com [204.212.59.34]) by primenet.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21883 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:56:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:56:06 -0400 From: Mark Nathan To: X-Sender: mrn@mailhost.primenet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Home of: Alternative Solutions Home of: Jazz*A*Mataz Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:56:54 -0700 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: mark@nathan.net (Mark R. Nathan) Subject: Got it as a gift Work a session a few weeks ago and got into a conversation with my client about Roland Samplers. I told him I owned a S-330 and for the most part was a good instrument. He immediatly said, "you know I have had this sequencer kit for the s330/s550 and don't even own a roland sampler, do you want it?" He brought it to me a few days later and I was astonished that this kit was never opened with the key and 3 disks safely tucked away in cases. Manualls and stickers even came with it. Before I take a moment to decide if I use it, what is the general opinion with it? Is the program usuable? I might be willing to part with it. ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark R. Nathan http://www.primenet.com/~mrn mark@nathan.net __ //\\ Support Cyber Rights and Free Speech on the Net! \\// Affix a blue ribbon to your posts, pages and email. //{\ Protest the CDA Amendment to the Telecom Bill of 1996. {/ \} See http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html for more info. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 5 02:23:28 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 02:23:23 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 02:13:06 -0400 Received: from hauki.clinet.fi ([194.100.0.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 02:12:16 -0400 Received: from cantina.clinet.fi (root@cantina.clinet.fi [194.100.0.15]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA02863 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:12:00 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from localhost (captain@localhost) by cantina.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA01058 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:12:00 +0300 (EET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: cantina.clinet.fi: captain owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 02:12:00 -0400 From: Markus Kaarlonen To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup expansion option installation instruction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Wow, there are far too many "...tion"s in the subject of this post! :) Heh.. now there's one more! :) > I should be getting the expansion option for my 760 tomorrow and I need to > install it. Is this something that is best left to a service center (I > know the official answer is "yes" but I need the real answer). Installing > simms is no problem. Is it any more difficult than that? Have any of you > done it yourself? Could you summarze the process for me? Thanks -- Craig It's very easy to do yourself. I did it, and generally I think I'm NOT very good with these things. :) The board itself is very easy to install, there's only one place you can put it into. Just open the cover and put the board there and that's it. The only possible problem is caused by the screws, there are about n+1 different kinds of them, and it may take a while to figure which one goes where. But there's a little manual with the board that helps, just examine it carefully and everything should go OK. Of course you should take all the normal precautions, use a wrist strap for grounding if possible to avoid static electricity, etc.. Well, I have never used these, but.. hey, do as I say, not as I do! :) Markus "Captain" Kaarlonen "... All that is now, all that is gone, all M2 Productions, Finland that's to come, and everything under the sun mailto:captain@clinet.fi is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon" http://www.clinet.fi/~captain/ - Pink Floyd in "The Dark Side of the Moon" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 5 13:28:43 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:28:32 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:16:28 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:15:21 -0400 Received: from [164.67.21.206] (ts33-1.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.206]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA03118 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:10:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:10:46 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup 550 samples on the 760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I know that the 760 can read samples from the 550. Will it pick up key-maps and all the necessary info so that loading the samples is essentially plug-and-play?? I also have a K2000 -- it can read 760 sample, for example, but in order to get them to work and sound good, you have to really tweak the sounds and reset parameters, etc. It's not an easy conversion. How easy is the conversion from the 550 to the 760? Thanks again. -Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 5 15:40:37 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-3>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:40:28 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:27:32 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:26:42 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.7) id MAA05935; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:26:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199607051926.MAA05935@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup 550 samples on the 760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 01:10 PM 7/5/96 -0400, you wrote: >I know that the 760 can read samples from the 550. Will it pick up >key-maps and all the necessary info so that loading the samples is >essentially plug-and-play?? I also have a K2000 -- it can read 760 sample, >for example, but in order to get them to work and sound good, you have to >really tweak the sounds and reset parameters, etc. It's not an easy >conversion. How easy is the conversion from the 550 to the 760? Thanks >again. -Craig Its good, I converted most of the 550 library to S760 files. The only thing I noticed was a little poorer sound quality, which I suspect was from the 550's 12 bit format (?) and not the tranfer process. Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 5 16:20:19 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:20:09 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:08:15 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:07:24 -0400 Received: from [164.67.22.107] (ts38-14.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.107]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA23864 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:00:56 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:00:56 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup Roland Tech support Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Doe Roland have an e-mail tech support line -- to e-mail questions and get answers back via e-mail? Thanks, Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 5 19:21:58 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:21:50 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id TAA08667 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:21:42 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:11:59 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:11:10 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.7) id QAA19945; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:11:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199607052311.QAA19945@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup S760 w Multi disk CDROM players Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does the S760 support multi disk CDROM players, especially those by NEC (SCSI, 7 disk holder)? They are a good price ($349 for a 4X). Does anyone use an NEC 4X external with the S760 and how do you switch disks? Chris Kirkham clkirkham@ucdavis.edu - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 5 20:03:57 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-3>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:03:45 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA12955 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:03:42 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:52:42 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:51:53 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.7) id QAA21844; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:51:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199607052351.QAA21844@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup 550 samples on the 760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 01:06 PM 7/5/96 -0700, you wrote: > >>Its good, I converted most of the 550 library to S760 files. The only thing >>I noticed was a little poorer sound quality, which I suspect was from the >>550's 12 bit format (?) and not the tranfer process. > >How much poorer? A little bit dull, You can tell the difference between them and the s760 demo CD. Still useable. >My work revolves primarily around synthesizing orchestral >music. Do they sound real enough? I think so. >I've never heard them (at least I have >never known that I've heard them). I'm considering buying the whole 550 >disk library (60 disks) from a guy -- probably for about $120. Would I be >better off to put that into something that is directly for the 760? I am happy I got them because they are looped well, they came from a time when RAM was tiny, so you got a good sample out of a very small piece of well looped audio, which is real nice even on samplers of today which have more RAM. You know you can download the library for free right? However I think they must be downloaded on S550 formatted DS disks??? >You >said that the transfer was pretty good -- did you have to reprogram >anything or were they pretty much plug-and-play? They converted to patches nicely. Very usable right off the bat. However, there naming stunk, the volume ids were numbers, I had to go through by hand and rename the volume ids, it took a while. >Sorry for so many >questions -- I just got my 760 (actually it's my first Roland product ever) >and I am just beginning to dig into it. Thanks again. -Craig No problem, overall I am very happy that I have most of the library. Lots of pianos and brass which I needed. Chris Kirkham clkirkham@ucdavis.edu - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jul 6 01:05:53 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-3>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:05:42 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:54:16 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:53:26 -0400 Received: from [164.67.22.105] (ts38-12.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.105]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA28292 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:45:13 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:45:13 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup Roland S550 Sample Library -- Downloadable? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I believe that someone mentioned to me that the S550 sample library is downloadable off the 'net. Is this true? What's the address? Thanks -Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jul 6 18:21:26 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21181-2>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:21:17 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id PAA24210 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:41:15 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:24:49 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET ([192.48.96.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:23:39 -0400 Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQaxfp20253; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:23:33 -0400 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id MAA18995; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:08:37 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:11:08 -0400 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup 550 samples on t To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>>sgroup 550 samples on the 760 Chris Kirkham writes: > They converted to patches nicely. Very usable right off the bat. However, > there naming stunk, the volume ids were numbers, I had to go through by hand > and rename the volume ids, it took a while. The System menu's Volume ID function lets you set Volume IDs en masse for objects in memory (though not on disk). The limitation is that it renames ALL files of the specified type (Performance, Patch, Partial, Sample); you can't select just a few files to be renamed. I've found a reasonable workaround, however. Let's say I have several different categories of samples in memory, each of which I want to label with a different Volume ID - Voice (VOX) and Piano (PNO), for instance. I just do the VOX Volume ID first; now all my pianos are mis-labeled, but not for long. I save the VOX files, so their Volume IDs are now dealt with. Then, I apply the PNO Volume ID, and save the piano files; the VOX sounds in memory are now mis-labeled, but that's fine, since I've already saved the correct versions to disk. Yours in Volume IDs, - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jul 6 19:17:32 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21169-3>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:17:22 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:05:43 -0400 Received: from astral.magic.ca ([199.166.230.69]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:04:52 -0400 Received: from [199.166.232.82] (baator23.magic.ca [199.166.232.82]) by astral.magic.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA27982; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:03:56 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199607010039.UAA29029@gold.muskoka.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:57:11 -0400 To: abarrow@muskoka.com (Andrew Barrow) From: Steve Cowan Subject: Re: sgroup S330 crashing still Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 8:39 PM -0400 6/30/96, Andrew Barrow wrote: >My S330 is still acting strange. After say 5-10 minutes of use it reboots >spontaneously, sometimes reloading, but more often garbling the LCD or >monitor and refusing to restart for 30-40 mins. Previously I was told that >this happened due to an overheating problem, and that resoldering the >affected components would solve the problem. I don't know what is going >wrong, though. I wonder if anyone has had this happen, could recall what was >serviced >(power supply or CPU board) or even someone I could mail.. I have had the exact same problem with my S-330 and a trip to the shop was in order. It was indeed an overheating problem, and resoldering was the fix. It was sitting in my rack above my Simmons SPM 8:2 mixer at the time, which you can fry an egg on. ................................/ Steve J. Cowan [ Check out my WWW "Wavestation" resource ] Free World Media [ http://www.magic.ca/~lost/ ] e-mail lost@astral.magic.ca /.......................................... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 8 15:17:17 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21169-3>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:17:07 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:56:55 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:56:04 -0400 Received: from [164.67.22.59] (ts35-14.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.59]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA39160; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:33:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:33:23 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup JAZ Drive Cc: "Electronic music \"gearhead\" list" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I'm hoping that you all who are infinitely wiser about this type of technical stuff than I will discuss the feasibility of the following "issue" and possible solution. :) I have a Roland 760. I have a JAZ Drive. It is reasonable to expect that I want to use them together. ;) HOWEVER, the 760 only recognizes drives up to 600 Megs and JAZ carts are 1 gig. I know that I could get the 540Meg carts, but they are more expensive per megabyte and I'd like to get the most for the money, etc. etc. you know how that goes. Anyway, I'm thinking that if I partition the 1 gig Jaz cart into two 500 meg sections, then I can use the full cart capacity and avoid the 600 meg limit. Am I totally off base here? Will this work? Has anyone tried it? Thanks in advance for the assist, Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 8 15:51:39 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21172-3>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:51:32 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:40:17 -0400 Received: from kcgw1.att.com ([192.128.133.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:39:28 -0400 Received: by kcig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id OAA28541; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 14:37:26 -0500 From: wbf@aloft.att.com To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, synth-l@american.edu Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA02720; Mon, 8 Jul 96 15:38:56 EDT Received: from acropolis (acropolis.cnet.att.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA17477; Mon, 8 Jul 96 15:38:58 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA00923; Mon, 8 Jul 96 15:38:54 EDT Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 15:38:54 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9607081938.AA00923@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup, american.edu!synth-l Subject: Re: sgroup JAZ Drive Content-Type: text Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi Craig, On SYNTH-L and sgroup, you said: > I have a Roland 760. I have a JAZ Drive. It is reasonable to > expect that I want to use them together. ;) HOWEVER, the 760 only > recognizes drives up to 600 Megs and JAZ carts are 1 gig. I know that I > could get the 540Meg carts, but they are more expensive per megabyte and > I'd like to get the most for the money, etc. etc. you know how that goes. > Anyway, I'm thinking that if I partition the 1 gig Jaz cart into two 500 > meg sections, then I can use the full cart capacity and avoid the 600 meg > limit. Nice try! But the S760 will only recognize a disk that it has formatted. Since there is no provision on the S760 to partition a single drive, partitioning the JAZ cartridge elsewhere will not format it in a way that the S760 will recognize, forcing you to use the S760 to format the cartridge as a 600 Meg device. The 540 Meg catridge may cost more per megabyte, but it still probably costs less than the 1Gig cartridge. The S760 forces you to look at the cost per cartridge, not the cost per megabyte. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 8 16:39:41 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-2>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:39:38 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:29:22 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:28:33 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.7) id NAA13990; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 13:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:28:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199607082028.NAA13990@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup JAZ Drive Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I talked to roland a while ago and they said that they were thinking of increasing the formatting size, I dont know how serious they are about it. > >On SYNTH-L and sgroup, you said: >> I have a Roland 760. I have a JAZ Drive. It is reasonable to >> expect that I want to use them together. ;) HOWEVER, the 760 only >> recognizes drives up to 600 Megs and JAZ carts are 1 gig. I know that I >> could get the 540Meg carts, but they are more expensive per megabyte and >> I'd like to get the most for the money, etc. etc. you know how that goes. >> Anyway, I'm thinking that if I partition the 1 gig Jaz cart into two 500 >> meg sections, then I can use the full cart capacity and avoid the 600 meg >> limit. > >Nice try! But the S760 will only recognize a disk that it has >formatted. Since there is no provision on the S760 to partition a >single drive, partitioning the JAZ cartridge elsewhere will not format >it in a way that the S760 will recognize, forcing you to use the S760 to >format the cartridge as a 600 Meg device. The 540 Meg catridge may cost >more per megabyte, but it still probably costs less than the 1Gig >cartridge. The S760 forces you to look at the cost per cartridge, not >the cost per megabyte. > >Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 07:56:36 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-3>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:56:32 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:26:07 -0400 Received: from cold.ice.net.au ([203.17.166.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:25:16 -0400 Received: from Maldoror (max-7.hobart.ice.net.au [203.17.166.156]) by cold.ice.net.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA24174 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:24:24 +1000 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:24:24 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960709213746.0d8f5382@ice.net.au> X-Sender: blair@ice.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Blair Rideout Subject: Re: sgroup JAZ Drive Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 04:28 PM 8/07/96 -0400, you wrote: >I talked to roland a while ago and they said that they were thinking of >increasing the formatting size, I dont know how serious they are about it. What they _really_ need to do is increase the sample/partial/patch no. limits. It was pretty dumb to limit the numbers in the first place but to place such low maximums is infuriating. I usually run over on these before I run out of memory. Blair - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 10:03:41 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-2>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 10:03:38 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:45:02 -0400 Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu ([198.82.160.250]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:44:12 -0400 Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA03782 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pyoshida.ix.netcom.com (vie-va8-18.ix.netcom.com [199.183.208.82]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA22870 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 09:43:55 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960709034118.00687748@mail.vt.edu> X-Sender: jchulick@mail.vt.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 23:41:18 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Jeffrey Chulick Subject: sgroup Selling my S-550 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I am selling my s-550 with mouse, monitor, latest system software, manuals, and even original box. The monitor is monochrome. Everything is in excellent shape - none smoking, non gigging use. I will sell it all for $450 + shipping COD. Jeff - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 12:23:09 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-1>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:23:02 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:04:29 -0400 Received: from dub-img-4.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:03:53 -0400 Received: by dub-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id MAA05369; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:03:41 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 11:53:50 -0400 From: dennis barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> To: Subject: sgroup s550 software? Message-ID: <960709155350_70531.2124_FHH66-6@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi all, I just got a used s550. I downloaded a few different operating systems lookig for a decent modern one.. It seems like the CD system is the most recent but is too big to put on a floopy with yer samples. You need to load this first, then load samples, right? I don't see what it offers me that would make me want to go thru that extra disk load. Any ocmments on why I need this? For a disk based system, the most recent OS is found was 1.11. Is there a more recent one? If so, it doesn't seem to be online so any ti0s on how to get it would be very welcome. Any comments welcome! |_e_/~ Dennis Barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> ) Skylab2000 : Paperboy2000 : Mushroom Nation ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/brainforest - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 13:03:41 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-3>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:03:31 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:43:05 -0400 Received: from arl-img-4.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:42:01 -0400 Received: by arl-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id MAA18949; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:41:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 12:40:02 -0400 From: dennis barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> To: Subject: sgroup OS versions Message-ID: <960709164001_70531.2124_FHH49-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Regarding s550 operatins systems.. So far in my net travels this morning, I've found version 1.13 of the system disks, and version 1.15 of the util disks. So, is there a version 1.15 of the system disks? |_e_/~ Dennis Barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> ) Skylab2000 : Paperboy2000 : Mushroom Nation ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/brainforest - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 13:34:24 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-3>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:34:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:09:31 -0400 Received: from cbgw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:08:27 -0400 Received: by cbig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id NAA12456; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:03:41 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA17690; Tue, 9 Jul 96 13:08:08 EDT Received: from acropolis (acropolis.cnet.att.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA10482; Tue, 9 Jul 96 13:08:13 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA06586; Tue, 9 Jul 96 13:08:11 EDT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:08:11 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9607091708.AA06586@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: sgroup s550 software? Content-Type: text Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hey Dennis, For most of what you will do on the S550, OS revs 1.13 to 1.15 will be just fine. You'll only need the CD OS if you have the SCSI port and CD or hard drives. If you don't, there's still a nice patch load that it has that saves you a little work when loading individual patches from multiple floppies. Just look around the archives for any sound disk data that I uploaded. (Directory wbf.) They'll contain a newer OS than 1.11. But beware, you're Utilities disk will have to be of the same OS rev number in order to work without first doing a change OS command. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 14:08:46 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-2>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:08:44 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:50:55 -0400 Received: from cbgw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <67>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:50:02 -0400 Received: by cbig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id NAA01373; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:44:51 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA23690; Tue, 9 Jul 96 13:48:48 EDT Received: from acropolis (acropolis.cnet.att.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA11583; Tue, 9 Jul 96 13:48:52 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA15055; Tue, 9 Jul 96 13:48:49 EDT Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:48:49 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9607091748.AA15055@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup JAZ Drive Content-Type: text Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Craig said: > So it will only format the entire thing? What if I formatted it on the > 760, then partitioned out the other400 megs via the software and use that > for, say, my computer? Now you've gone beyond my expertise. All I can say is, "Try it." Just don't store any critical data on it until you've verified that it works flawlessly. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 14:29:28 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21171-1>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:29:23 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id OAA04936 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:29:14 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:09:47 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <67>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:08:23 -0400 Received: from [38.14.108.41] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id OAA02708; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:07:51 -0400 Message-Id: <199607091807.OAA02708@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup JAZ Drive Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:10:45 -0400 x-sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "sgroup" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I know that I >could get the 540Meg carts, but they are more expensive per megabyte and >I'd like to get the most for the money, Not logical. Think cost per disk, because you only can put 540 on it anyways.... (or 600 if you get the 1gig). Calculate your cost per meg of the 60 megs difference... pretty expensive, huh? JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 18:08:59 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-3>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:08:54 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:48:57 -0400 Received: from mail.clarityconnect.com ([206.64.143.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:48:07 -0400 Received: from [206.114.168.18] by mail.clarityconnect.com with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:50:03 +0000 X-Sender: dsw@mail.clarityconnect.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:50:26 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Doug Wyatt Subject: sgroup Mac sample dump utility Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R A brief semi-commercial announcement: I've written a little Mac application called "Samplifier". It transfers AIFF files to and from an S-760 over SCSI. It also does MIDI Sample Dump for other samplers that support it (including the 760). And there are a few features to simplify some common S-760 editing tasks. I'm distributing it as shareware ... this project was a bit time-consuming so I'd like to get something back for it. For more information about Samplifier, point your browser at http://www.sonosphere.com/sonosphere/samplifier/ Please feel free to try it out and send me your feedback. Thanks Doug --- Doug Wyatt Sonosphere - music, music software doug@sonosphere.com http://www.sonosphere.com/sonosphere/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 20:19:58 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21171-2>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:19:47 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA26468 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:19:45 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:09:09 -0400 Received: from isgate.is ([193.4.58.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:08:19 -0400 Received: from folda.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:08:09 GMT Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by folda.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:09:50 GMT Received: from [193.4.1.115] by rvik.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:12:25 GMT X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 21:10:18 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Subject: Re: sgroup OS versions Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 12:40 9.7.1996, dennis barton wrote: >Regarding s550 operating systems.. > >So far in my net travels this morning, I've found version 1.13 of the >system disks, and version 1.15 of the util disks. > >So, is there a version 1.15 of the system disks? Yes, of course, but I don't think it's in a pure form at the sgroup server. But not to worry, you can make one yourself. Here is how to: Start up with the 1.15 utility disk. Then, remove the startup floppy and insert a formatted disk containing whatever sounds you want to have on a startup disk (or use the opportunity to format a new floppy). Then do a "Save System" operation and, voila, you have a system 1.15 system disk. Rikhardur H. Fridriksson rhf@ismennt.is http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 9 20:45:06 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-3>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:44:57 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:33:10 -0400 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:32:21 -0400 Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA20473; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:33:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:33:33 -0400 From: JumboR@aol.com Message-ID: <960709203330_573229085@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: blair@ice.net.au, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup JAZ Drive Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I talked to roland a while ago and they said that they were thinking of >increasing the formatting size, I dont know how serious they are about it. >>What they _really_ need to do is increase the >>sample/partial/patch no. >>limits. It was pretty dumb to limit the numbers in the first >>place but to >>place such low maximums is infuriating. I usually run over >>on these before I run out of memory. What are those limits? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 10 01:18:21 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-1>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:18:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:07:24 -0400 Received: from netcom9.netcom.com ([192.100.81.119]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:06:35 -0400 Received: from [192.0.2.1] (interval@netcom9.netcom.com [192.100.81.119]) by netcom9.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id WAA00792; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 22:06:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 01:06:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199607100506.WAA00792@netcom9.netcom.com> X-Sender: interval@127.0.0.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: interval@netcom.com (Scott Morgan) Subject: sgroup ANN: TransferStation 2.1 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Interval Music Systems is pleased to announce new TransferStation v2.1 SCSI Sample Utility for Macintosh, which has new features of particular interest to Roland S760 sampler users. TS is currently in use by major universities, recording studios, effects houses, composers and Roland R&D in Los Angeles. TS sends/receives over the Mac SCSI bus and talks to Roland S760 as well as Akai, Kurzweil, Peavey, and Emu samplers. TS also reads Akai and Roland SCSI volumes (CD-ROM, HD, MO etc) directly to the Mac HD in AIFF or SDII format. You can also browse/audition and import samples directly thru the Mac (no sampler required). Roland -L and -R channels are automatically merged to stereo AIFF/SDII. New features in TS v2.1: - Reads Akai S3000-series SCSI volumes - Exports Sample Name lists, includes sample length (words) and rate (hz) as a tab-delimited text file, suitable for importing into a spreadsheet, word processor, etc. - New high-quality 32-bit digital filter w/ noise shaping to correct for Roland samplers' pre-emphasis curve. This works automatically, in-place, flattening samples* coming from the S760 or from Roland SCSI volumes, and boosting samples when sending to a Roland S760. The curve is accurate to within +.86dB and no DSP card is required. (* not associated with The Flat-Earth Society) Please check our website for more details and ordering information: http://www.imuse.com We also distribute the commercial version of Tom Erbe's SoundHack DSP software for Macintosh. If you have any questions, please email me directly: _________ Scott Morgan __ Interval Music Systems ________ interval@netcom.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 10 02:46:22 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-2>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:46:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:32:33 -0400 Received: from hauki.clinet.fi ([194.100.0.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:31:44 -0400 Received: from cantina.clinet.fi (root@cantina.clinet.fi [194.100.0.15]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) with ESMTP id JAA08439 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:31:31 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from localhost (captain@localhost) by cantina.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA09843 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:31:31 +0300 (EET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: cantina.clinet.fi: captain owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:31:31 -0400 From: Markus Kaarlonen To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Mac - SCSI - S-760 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > I've written a little Mac application called "Samplifier". It transfers > AIFF files to and from an S-760 over SCSI. It also does MIDI Sample Dump > for other samplers that support it (including the 760). And there are a For some time now I have been setting up an "ideal studio" where I can as easily as possible exchange sample data between different devices without having to use disks, preferably SCSI-transfers. I have two computers (PC & Mac) and three samplers (Ensoniq ASR-10, Kurzweil K2000 and Roland S-760). So far I have connected PC and K2000 to the same SCSI-bus, they use the same harddisk format so it's easy to share a drive between them. I also have ASR and Mac in the same bus, they share a drive which Mac can read and write with a program called EPSm (at least as soon as I manage to pay the shareware fee... :) So far the S-760 has been all by itself, there's one hard disk and one CD-ROM connected to it. Sending or receiving sample data to/from it has been a bit difficult, I have had to use disks (slow, no samples bigger than disk size) or S/PDIF transfers (otherwise OK but you have truncate the samples again after transferring).. I have read about Transferstation and now comes this Samplifier program.. excellent! They would be all I need.. but how to connect S-760 to the same SCSI-bus with Mac? There are already 2 master devices in the bus, I guess it wouldn't be very "safe" to connect a third one to the same bus? I have heard some horror stories what happens if two (or more! :) master devices try to access the same hard disk at the same time.. besides there is the SCSI ID problem: Mac, ASR, S-760, one hard disk / each, and one CD-ROM: that makes 7.. would still work, but not much room for expansion.. I heard someone mentioning somewhere a device called "SCSI switcher".. how does that work, and would it help me? If anyone has any thoughts about my problem or has had a similar situation, please tell me everything.. :) Markus "Captain" Kaarlonen "... All that is now, all that is gone, all M2 Productions, Finland that's to come, and everything under the sun mailto:captain@clinet.fi is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon" http://www.clinet.fi/~captain/ - Pink Floyd in "The Dark Side of the Moon" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 10 03:10:56 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-3>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 03:10:43 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:57:12 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 02:56:22 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA00675; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:54:08 -0200 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:54:07 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Scott Morgan cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup ANN: TransferStation 2.1 In-Reply-To: <199607100506.WAA00792@netcom9.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R What about a utility that does the same for MICROSOFT WINDOWS? Thanks Aubrey On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Scott Morgan wrote: > Interval Music Systems is pleased to announce new TransferStation v2.1 SCSI > Sample Utility for Macintosh, which has new features of particular interest > to Roland S760 sampler users. > > TS is currently in use by major universities, recording studios, effects > houses, composers and Roland R&D in Los Angeles. > > TS sends/receives over the Mac SCSI bus and talks to Roland S760 as well as > Akai, Kurzweil, Peavey, and Emu samplers. > > TS also reads Akai and Roland SCSI volumes (CD-ROM, HD, MO etc) directly to > the Mac HD in AIFF or SDII format. You can also browse/audition and import > samples directly thru the Mac (no sampler required). Roland -L and -R > channels are automatically merged to stereo AIFF/SDII. > > New features in TS v2.1: > > - Reads Akai S3000-series SCSI volumes > > - Exports Sample Name lists, includes sample length (words) and rate (hz) > as a tab-delimited text file, suitable for importing into a spreadsheet, > word processor, etc. > > - New high-quality 32-bit digital filter w/ noise shaping to correct for > Roland samplers' pre-emphasis curve. This works automatically, in-place, > flattening samples* coming from the S760 or from Roland SCSI volumes, and > boosting samples when sending to a Roland S760. The curve is accurate to > within +.86dB and no DSP card is required. > > (* not associated with The Flat-Earth Society) > > Please check our website for more details and ordering information: > > http://www.imuse.com > > We also distribute the commercial version of Tom Erbe's SoundHack DSP > software for Macintosh. > > If you have any questions, please email me directly: > > > _________ Scott Morgan __ Interval Music Systems ________ > interval@netcom.com > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 10 10:30:00 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-2>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:29:53 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:18:21 -0400 Received: from cold.ice.net.au ([203.17.166.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:17:28 -0400 Received: from Maldoror (max-6.hobart.ice.net.au [203.17.166.155]) by cold.ice.net.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA07777 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 00:16:28 +1000 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:16:28 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960711004444.381f0122@ice.net.au> X-Sender: blair@ice.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Blair Rideout Subject: Re: sgroup JAZ Drive Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Craig said: >> So it will only format the entire thing? What if I formatted it on the >> 760, then partitioned out the other400 megs via the software and use that >> for, say, my computer? I can tell you without a doubt that if your computer's a PC, then this will not work. The S-760 doesn't create a partition any OS on the PC can see, and if you use DOS/Win NT/Win 95 to create a PC-readable partition on that drive, then the S-760 will tell you the disk is then unformatted (according to it). The very act of setting any partition destroys the S-760's format info. Believe me, I've tried it. I used to have the 1G drive for my S-760 mounted in my PC, and ended up moving it to an external case. I was getting RF interference when any SCSI device operated, the PC was falling over on a regular basis, and Norton Disk Doctor would take 5 mins to startup while it tried to figure out what the hell was wrong with the S-760 drive. I don't recommend it. BTW what actually happens when you format a disk with the S-760 appears to be this: The S-760 keeps some tables (probably at the start of the disk) that tell it which blocks are used, and it just re-initialises those to say that all blocks are free. It doesn't even touch the rest of the media, unless you choose the verify option where it checks each block on the disk for read/write access, picking up any bad blocks. What happens when it finds one I'm not sure yet, as I haven't had any. I'm hoping that there is some sort of way of stopping it from accessing them. The advice the manual gives if you lose power in the middle of a write operation doesn't give me much hope though: "Reformat the drive". Uggh. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade my S-760 for any other sampler (well maybe an E-IV with 128M ) but it just goes to show that music equipment manufacturers shouldn't be let loose to write an OS. Blair - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 10 13:28:35 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-1>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:28:32 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:18:56 -0400 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com ([192.100.81.107]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:18:05 -0400 Received: from [192.0.2.1] (interval@netcom4.netcom.com [192.100.81.107]) by netcom4.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA19643; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:17:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:17:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199607101717.KAA19643@netcom4.netcom.com> X-Sender: interval@127.0.0.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: interval@netcom.com (Scott Morgan) Subject: Re: sgroup Mac - SCSI - S-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >but how to connect S-760 to the same SCSI-bus with Mac? This is no problem. The S760 is the only Roland sampler that can reside on the same SCSI bus as the Mac (others in the 7xx series cannot). Each device needs its own SCSI ID as you may know. You can connect the S760 and the Mac on the same SCSI bus. The S760 needs a MIDI connection in addition to SCSI to put the S760 into/outof Remote SCSI mode. FWIW, I have Mac, internal HD, ext HD, int CD-ROM, Akai sampler, Peavey SP, and Roland S760 all connected. _________ Scott Morgan __ Interval Music Systems ________ interval@netcom.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 10 14:08:18 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-2>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:08:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:56:08 -0400 Received: from cove.com ([204.96.49.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:55:18 -0400 Received: from [204.96.49.152] (ttyp4.cape.cove.com [204.96.49.152]) by cove.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA15563 for ; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 13:58:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:58:55 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: joz@cove.com (John Zuill) Subject: sgroup Get on the news group Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, My name is Julie Cleveland and I would like to get information on the Roland S50. I am borrowing one and may buy it eventually. May I get on the newsgroup, download a manual or contact other users? My E-mail address is joz@cove.com (my b'friend's address) I live in Gloucester, Mass, USA This could be a big help to me. Thankyou for setting up this site. PS I can not access regular newgroups (e.g. those addresses that begin with alt.) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jul 13 10:34:01 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20598-1>; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:33:59 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:18:38 -0400 Received: from personal.eunet.fi ([192.26.119.11]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:17:45 -0400 Received: from zman.pp.fi by personal.eunet.fi with SMTP id AA24806 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:17:32 +0300 Received: by zman.pp.fi with Microsoft Mail id <01BB70E0.036ED140@zman.pp.fi>; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 17:23:31 +-300 Message-Id: <01BB70E0.036ED140@zman.pp.fi> From: Jouko Sivusalo To: 'Sgroup' Subject: sgroup Dreaming . . . Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 16:21:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hello Roland Developers ! (I hope you monitoring this list) I wonder, is possiple to make new sampler (S-780 ? :-) on PC ISA / PCI card format ? - Card could have own simms memory, SPDIF / analog audio interface with option to move back interface to rackpanel (SPDIF / analog audio ect...) - User interface software via Win95 (SVGA monitor, mouse, PC format FD drive, CD-rom, Midi, SCSI on Adaptec cards and last but not least, qwerty keyboard is allready supported). - Convert options from other sampler manufacters..and ect.. ..and price could be nice suprise, thank you.. Happy sampling, jouko.sivusalo@zman.pp.fi - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jul 13 14:10:31 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20598-2>; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 14:10:25 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:54:44 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:53:38 -0400 Received: from [164.67.20.132] (ts19-7.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.132]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA42170; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 10:44:13 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 13:44:13 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup SCSI chain double check Cc: k2000@AMERICAN.EDU Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I just want to run this by y'all before I install it (read as before it becomes a pain in the ass to undo). I've never set up a SCSI chain before so I just want to double check this. I'm connecting a Roland S760 (1 SCSI port), K2000 (2), CD-Rom (2), Hard Drive - maybe (2), and Jaz drive (2 w/ auto terminator). Here is my proposed chain: S760 -> K2000 -> Hard Drive -> CD-Rom -> Jaz drive. The goal is that I will be able to access the CD drive and the Jaz drive (and the HD if I decide to include it) from both the K2000 and the 760. Will this setup work? Everything will, of course have it's own SCSI ID. Any comments on this proposed setup would be much appreciated. Thanks. -Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jul 14 18:34:05 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20598-1>; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:33:58 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:16:18 -0400 Received: from tide21.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:15:29 -0400 Received: by tide21.microsoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.985.1) id <01BB7197.4E0A9F60@tide21.microsoft.com>; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:15:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: sgroup Stuff for sale/trade Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 18:19:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.985.1 Encoding: 15 TEXT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, note : I'm in Europe so unless stated, voltages are 220Volt. Roland W30, large library, SCSI installed. Flight case. Roland S330, same library as above. 110Volt power supply board for S760 (I've got two of these) 110Volt power supply board and transformer for JV880 Thanks Peter - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jul 14 19:34:37 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20777-1>; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:34:30 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id TAA20772 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:34:25 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:19:02 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:18:12 -0400 Received: from [38.14.108.196] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id TAA10633; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:17:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199607142317.TAA10633@smtp2.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Dreaming . . . Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 19:20:48 -0400 x-sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "'Sgroup'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I wonder, is possiple to make new sampler (S-780 ? :-) on PC ISA / PCI >card format ? >- Card could have own simms memory, SPDIF / analog audio interface with >option to move >back interface to rackpanel (SPDIF / analog audio ect...) >- User interface software via Win95 (SVGA monitor, mouse, PC format FD >drive, CD-rom, >Midi, SCSI on Adaptec cards and last but not least, qwerty keyboard is >allready supported). >- Convert options from other sampler manufacters..and ect.. > >..and price could be nice suprise, thank you.. It's available now. It's called SAMPLECELL from digidesign. :-) JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 11 17:09:24 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:09:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:59:03 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:58:14 -0400 Received: from [164.67.20.169] (ts21-12.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.169]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA32112; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:24:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:24:21 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup audio vs. CDR sample CDs Cc: "Electronic music \"gearhead\" list" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I understand the main difference between CDR and audio sample CDs -- one has audio and one has code. I don't understand the functional difference. Would anyone care to comment on the audio vs. CDR format? It seems that audio CDs are significantly less expensive than their respective CDR formats -- is that because you have to do all the work in creating patches etc.? What are the strengths and weaknesses of each? Which would you suggest to someone who is beginning to build a library of sample CDs? Thanks Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 12 10:25:24 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20774-3>; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:25:11 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:12:21 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:11:29 -0400 Received: from [38.14.108.37] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id KAA12061; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:11:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199607121411.KAA12061@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: sgroup re: CD-ROM vs. audio ? Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 10:14:14 -0400 x-sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >I understand the main difference between CDR and audio sample CDs -- one >has audio and one has code. I don't understand the functional difference. >Would anyone care to comment on the audio vs. CDR format? It seems that >audio CDs are significantly less expensive than their respective CDR >formats -- is that because you have to do all the work in creating patches >etc.? What are the strengths and weaknesses of each? Which would you >suggest to someone who is beginning to build a library of sample CDs? Do you mean, the difference between CD-ROM and CD-AUDIO??? Yes? If so, the reason CD-ROMs cost more than audio, is that typically (and I can speak for Sampleheads), we have to pay programmers to spend time, editing, looping, mapping, etc... additionally, CD-ROM sales are typically lower than audio format because of single platform use, etc... so the sales potential of an audio disc far exceeds that of any one single ROM... factor in fixed manufacturing costs such as pre-press, documentation, printing, etc... and you'll see why ROMs have to cost more than audio. With that said, if you want to see how the best of the best program, I'd suggest getting a (some?) killer commercial CD-ROMs that fill your musical needs, AND get an audio disc or 2 and start rolling your own as well.... when you make your own samples, you bring your artistic style to it that only YOU can. Your samples will be unique to your own music. One thing about audio CDs - if you don't mind the work and work primarily with loops, then audio may be all you need, since editing beat loops is one of the simplest and most basic ways to use samplers. However, if you need a chromatically multi-sampled sustain looped instrument, such as bass or piano or strings, etc., you may find the pre-rolled variety much easier to use and until you get damn good at it, better sounding than your first 20 attempts will ever be... Of course, I want you to buy my products, but then I don't care if you prefer audio or ROM. We spend big bucks in developing our ROMs and for me persoanlly, I only buy ROMs unless the product is only available in audio. I'm basically lazy, so if I can pay someone $150 to do ALL the mapping and programming, I will. However, even pre-made ROMs are not exactly what you always need for your tune, so you wind up editing anyways. It's always something! Have fun. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 12 17:48:50 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20775-3>; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:48:45 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:36:45 -0400 Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu ([198.82.160.250]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:35:54 -0400 Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA06637 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pyoshida.ix.netcom.com (vie-va17-06.ix.netcom.com [204.32.176.166]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA09730 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 17:35:37 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960712113251.006d4b18@mail.vt.edu> X-Sender: jchulick@mail.vt.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 07:32:51 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Jeffrey Chulick Subject: sgroup Monitor Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO It looks like I have sold my s-550 but I still have a magnavox monochrome monitor that connects to the s-550. Is anyone interested in this at all? I will take the best offer. Jeff - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 11 06:52:25 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21170-1>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:52:18 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:36:24 -0400 Received: from cold.ice.net.au ([203.17.166.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:35:32 -0400 Received: from Maldoror (max-7.hobart.ice.net.au [203.17.166.156]) by cold.ice.net.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA18330 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:34:47 +1000 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:34:47 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960711204632.30c72f80@ice.net.au> X-Sender: blair@ice.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Blair Rideout Subject: Re: sgroup ANN: TransferStation 2.1 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO At 06:54 AM 10/07/96 -0400, you wrote: > >What about a utility that does the same for MICROSOFT WINDOWS? >Thanks >Aubrey I'd even live with one that ran under DOS :) Blair - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 11 09:33:07 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21171-2>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:32:55 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:19:06 -0400 Received: from cold.ice.net.au ([203.17.166.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:18:17 -0400 Received: from Maldoror (max-28.hobart.ice.net.au [203.17.166.177]) by cold.ice.net.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA19864 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:17:22 +1000 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:17:22 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960711233219.0ee7ceba@ice.net.au> X-Sender: blair@ice.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Blair Rideout Subject: Re: sgroup Mac - SCSI - S-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO At 01:17 PM 10/07/96 -0400, you wrote: >>but how to connect S-760 to the same SCSI-bus with Mac? > >This is no problem. The S760 is the only Roland sampler that can reside on >the same SCSI bus as the Mac (others in the 7xx series cannot). Each device >needs its own SCSI ID as you may know. You can connect the S760 and the Mac >on the same SCSI bus. > >The S760 needs a MIDI connection in addition to SCSI to put the S760 >into/outof Remote SCSI mode. Scott, Would you be able to enlighten us as to the Sysex MIDI data sequence that does this little trick? Myself and a few others on the list have been asking about this for some time... Blair - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 11 12:34:13 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21174-2>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:34:08 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:20:47 -0400 Received: from netcom15.netcom.com ([192.100.81.128]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:19:42 -0400 Received: from [192.0.2.1] (interval@netcom15.netcom.com [192.100.81.128]) by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA23650; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:19:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:19:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199607111619.JAA23650@netcom15.netcom.com> X-Sender: interval@127.0.0.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: interval@netcom.com (Scott Morgan) Subject: Re: sgroup Mac - SCSI - S-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >>The S760 needs a MIDI connection in addition to SCSI to put the S760 >>into/outof Remote SCSI mode. > > Would you be able to enlighten us as to the Sysex MIDI data sequence >that does this little trick? Myself and a few others on the list have been >asking about this for some time... I am not under non-disclosure for this (thanks Roland!): Open Remote Mode: F0 41 dev 34 12 01 00 00 08 00 01 76 F7 Close Remote Mode: F0 41 dev 34 12 01 00 00 08 00 00 77 F7 dev = device # (00) There is more to it if you want to get a catalog of resident samples, etc. Too much to relate over a mailing list. _________ Scott Morgan __ Interval Music Systems ________ interval@netcom.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 11 13:20:55 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <21173-1>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:20:51 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id NAA30233 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:20:48 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:09:46 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:08:30 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA03219; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 19:03:15 -0200 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:03:11 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Scott Morgan cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Mac - SCSI - S-760 In-Reply-To: <199607111619.JAA23650@netcom15.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO WOW, Scott. What can I do for you to get the "MORE" :) Aubrey Suid Afrika On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, Scott Morgan wrote: > >>The S760 needs a MIDI connection in addition to SCSI to put the S760 > >>into/outof Remote SCSI mode. > > > > Would you be able to enlighten us as to the Sysex MIDI data sequence > >that does this little trick? Myself and a few others on the list have been > >asking about this for some time... > > I am not under non-disclosure for this (thanks Roland!): > > Open Remote Mode: > > F0 41 dev 34 12 01 00 00 08 00 01 76 F7 > > Close Remote Mode: > > F0 41 dev 34 12 01 00 00 08 00 00 77 F7 > > dev = device # (00) > > There is more to it if you want to get a catalog of resident samples, etc. > Too much to relate over a mailing list. > > > _________ Scott Morgan __ Interval Music Systems ________ > interval@netcom.com > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 17 09:29:42 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-2>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:29:30 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id JAA03096 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:29:24 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:13:08 -0400 Received: from wurley.apana.org.au ([203.12.237.25]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 09:12:14 -0400 Received: from cydonia (cydonia@wurley.apana.org.au [203.12.237.25]) by wurley.apana.org.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA01171; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:16:21 +1000 Message-ID: <31EA9969.5159@wurley.apana.org.au> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:18:01 -0400 From: Vladimir Tittl X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Nathan CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Re: S-550 Sequencer References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Mark, > I told him I owned a S-330 and for the most part > was a good instrument. He immediatly said, "you know I have had this > sequencer kit for the s330/s550 and don't even own a roland sampler, do > you want it?" Is it called "Director S" ? > Before I take a moment to decide if I use it, what is the general opinion > with it? Is the program usuable? Apparently it's not as good as Qubase, but it might be good for using the S-550 live. > I might be willing to part with it. I'd like to see what live potential it has, how much ( I'm poor!) do you want for it? Regards, Vladimir -- "It is unbelievable that environmentalists can still be eating hamburgers, hot dogs, and other highly processed foods that directly contribute to loss of biodiversity and global warming." ---- Macrobiotic Diet by Michio and Aveline Kushi - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 18 02:19:27 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 02:19:22 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 02:09:24 -0400 Received: from harbor.silcom.com ([199.201.128.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 02:08:34 -0400 Received: from beach.silcom.com (beach.silcom.com [199.201.128.19]) by harbor.silcom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA04582 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:12:16 -0700 Received: from beach.silcom.com by beach.silcom.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/SMI-4.1) id XAA05190; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 23:07:42 -0700 Message-ID: <31EDD3CF.1064@silcom.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 02:03:59 -0400 From: Paul McAvoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Latest s550 system and utility disk(s) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I recently purchased a used s550, and it came with one system disk. I am wondering what the latest system version is available and if/where I could find an image of that latest system and utility disk. Thanks! :) -- ___ +-------------------------------------------------------+ [o o] | http://www.silcom.com/~paulmcav | \^/ | Save paper: don't print your e-mail! | - +-------------------------------------------------------+ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 18 07:45:21 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-1>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:45:19 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id HAA31458 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:45:12 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:33:48 -0400 Received: from isgate.is ([193.4.58.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 18 Jul 1996 07:32:57 -0400 Received: from folda.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:32:48 GMT Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by folda.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:34:28 GMT Received: from [193.4.1.127] by rvik.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Thu, 18 Jul 1996 11:37:29 GMT X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 08:35:05 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Subject: Re: sgroup Latest s550 system and utility disk(s) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Paul McAvoy wrote: >I recently purchased a used s550, and it came with one system disk. I >am wondering what the latest system version is available and if/where I >could find an image of that latest system and utility disk. The latest system is version 1.15. The 1.15 Utility disk is available on the Sgroup ftp server, and the system can be extracted from there. Rikhardur H. Fridriksson rhf@ismennt.is http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 19 18:06:15 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-2>; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 18:06:00 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:52:04 -0400 Received: from astral.magic.ca ([199.166.230.69]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:51:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (lost@localhost) by astral.magic.ca (SMI-8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA27563; Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:44:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:44:20 -0400 From: Steve Cowan To: Vladimir Tittl cc: Mark Nathan , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Re: S-550 Sequencer In-Reply-To: <31EA9969.5159@wurley.apana.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Director-S is an attrocious sequencing environment because it forces you to break your song up into segments with a maximum of something like 200 events each. That might sound OK, except that only one of these segments can be playing back at any given time. A note counts as two events, and a pitch bend or after-touch - well, forget about using them with Director-S! The problem is this: consider a bar of 16th-notes. This is pretty standard with a drum pattern. That's 32 events. Consider maybe a few chords, and a couple of other notes, so we'll factor in another 20 events for simple pop-type music. That's 52 events in a single bar of music! Unless your music is extremely simple and consists of a lot of repeating phrases (i.e. with nothing changing overtop) Director-S will not suffice. This is because you will be limited to recording your music in 2-4 bar segments and later joining them together. Forget about even recording an 8-bar solo over any substantially dense music without stopping the sequencer in the middle! Furthermore, Director-S does not offer multi-track recording. Everything's on one track, but it does offer some decent options for isolating individual MIDI channels for editing. What's nice about it? Direct integration of a sequencer with the S-550/S-330 is nice. (Did I mention that the S-330 version and the S-550 version are different? You can't run the S-330 version on a 550, for example, although I believe you can swap song files created on either sampler). Being able to save a sequence on the same disk as your samples on a 330 or 550 is nice. Stuff you create using Director-S can be loaded directly into the MC-500 (and maybe also the W-30?) I bought Director-S for $125 Cdn about six years ago. I've been kicking myself since! By the way, it's NOTHING like Cubase. - Steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jul 20 11:50:54 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-3>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:50:51 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id LAA01929; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:50:49 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:31:14 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:30:39 -0400 Received: from [164.67.22.47] (ts35-2.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.47]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA46352 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 08:22:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:22:26 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup CD Rom recognition Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi all, I just hooked my CD-Rom (Apple CD300e) and my Jaz drive to the 760 (760 ->CD ->Jaz). The 760 recognizes the CD drive as being there, but it says that the disc is unformatted. However, the CD player has a Roland sampling disc (CD-Rom) that came with the 760. I can't seem to get it to recognize the info on the disc. Has anyone experienced this before? Any suggestions? -Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jul 20 15:25:27 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-3>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:25:18 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id PAA02458; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:25:15 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:12:15 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:11:25 -0400 Received: from [164.67.21.195] (ts32-6.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.21.195]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA63282; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 12:04:33 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 15:04:33 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm (Richard Sven Patterson) From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: Re: sgroup CD Rom recognition Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I assume you have tried the SCAN function and that the Jaz is terminated >and is of a different scsi id to the cd-rom. >sven yup. The 760 recognizes the Jaz and Cd drives. However, it reads them as unformatted. On the Jaz drive, that's ok, because it isn't formatted yet. However, on the CD-Rom that roland produced and shipped with the sampler....well that should be recognized as formatted. -Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jul 21 15:12:20 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-2>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:12:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:54:43 -0400 Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu ([164.67.131.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:53:53 -0400 Received: from [164.67.20.156] (ts20-15.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.156]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA29302 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:48:47 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 14:48:47 -0400 X-Sender: cmarks@pop.ben2.ucla.edu (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cmarks@ucla.edu (Craig Marks) Subject: sgroup I can't take it anymore!!! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I don't know what the hell is going on with my damn 760!?!?!?!?!!??! It recognizes the CD drive but says that the roland sample CD is "unformatted"! While this is annoying and frustrating, since I can't load any sounds from CD, it can wait 'til monday or tuesday. I hooked up my Jaz drive to the system and formatted a cart. No problem (other than it taking forever). Then, when I went to go save something on that formatted cart., the 760 says "unformatted"! I'm sampling in a bunch of stuff b/c I have a job that's due on Monday and I can't get the damn thing to save anything!!!!! When I saved the performance to floppies (it took 7 floppies) it worked......but disk number 5 had an error (it would have been nice if it told me that before I saved the stuff and powered down the unit!) so I couldn't load the performance and had to resample everything! What do I do? Any suggestions? Have you run into this before? Is this some sort of compatibility problem with the Jaz drive? Do I have a screwed up 760? AAaarrgghh! -Craig - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jul 21 15:38:11 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:38:01 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 15:23:24 -0400 Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au ([203.12.176.157]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:10:12 -0400 Received: from 203.61.32.50 (d50-1.cpe.Toowoomba.aone.net.au [203.61.32.50]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.13/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA19186 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 1996 16:09:49 +1000 Message-ID: <31F10501.4AE@mail01.twb.aone.net.au> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 12:10:41 -0400 From: Unity Gain Studio Reply-To: unitygain@t130.aone.net.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup s760 prg numbers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO HELP HELP HELP. I need to be able to change patch numbers on the s760over midi from a sequencer and I'm not having much luck as the prg number doesn't save with the performance or the volume. It would apppear that Prg number is a patch parameter, which means thatevery patch on a drive must have a unique number. Or am I missing something. I have tried re-numbering patches in the performance then saving the performance, but when I reload, they are not retained. I also tried saving as a volume, but this didn't help either. Thanks. Colin Webber http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/3428/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jul 21 21:15:18 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-2>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:15:15 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:03:03 -0400 Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au ([203.12.176.157]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:02:08 -0400 Received: from [203.61.32.22] (d22-1.cpe.Toowoomba.aone.net.au [203.61.32.22]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.13/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA28777; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:01:29 +1000 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:01:29 -0400 X-Sender: ur008423@mail01.twb.aone.net.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm (Richard Sven Patterson) From: UnityGain@t130.aone.net.au (Colin Webber) Subject: Re: sgroup s760 prg numbers Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >How do you renumber. >After I load a volume or performance in, I do a listing of patches (with >the monitor and mouse), and then choose a renumber which is F4 in my >configuration. >At which point the PG# would change in the right column if necessary, then >I can save this performance and everything is fine, unless I use these >patches in another volume or performance and which point the pg#'s get >screwed but once I load the original performance, everything is fine. >richard sven > Well, yes and no. The Prg numbers seem to save with the patch, not the performance. The only way seems to be doing a volume dump either to floppy or to midi, as all the relevant details are saved and only thge sample data is called from the hard drive, but this has disadvantages when working on a piece over several sessions. Colin Webber - Composer, Sound Designer, Bahai. www.geocities.com/broadway/3428/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jul 21 21:38:28 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-1>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:38:23 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id VAA17901 for ; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:38:21 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:17:08 -0400 Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au ([203.12.176.157]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:15:06 -0400 Received: from [203.61.32.22] (d22-1.cpe.Toowoomba.aone.net.au [203.61.32.22]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.13/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA29264 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:05:25 +1000 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:05:25 -0400 X-Sender: ur008423@mail01.twb.aone.net.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: UnityGain@t130.aone.net.au (Colin Webber) Subject: sgroup S760, transferstation, Samplifier Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I recently purchased TransferStation for my s760 and must say that, while the disk transfers are great, TS does not create partials or programmes for the s760, which Samplifier at 10% of the price, does. I would dearly love to see a programme which will import performance, patch and partial information over MIDI. MIDI volume dump is so longwinded. Anyone for a MAC based s760 editor? Colin Webber Colin Webber - Composer, Sound Designer, Bahai. www.geocities.com/broadway/3428/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 22 06:36:23 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-3>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 06:36:21 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 06:22:27 -0400 Received: from tide19.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.29]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 06:21:36 -0400 Received: by tide19.microsoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.0) id <01BB777C.CB8E6EE0@tide19.microsoft.com>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 03:20:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" , "'UnityGain@t130.aone.net.au'" Subject: RE: sgroup S760, transferstation, Samplifier Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 06:24:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.0 Encoding: 31 TEXT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO "Samplifier" What is it ? Where can I find it ? Thanks ! Peter Fitzpatrick >---------- >From: UnityGain@t130.aone.net.au[SMTP:UnityGain@t130.aone.net.au] >Sent: 22 July 1996 02:05 >To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca >Subject: sgroup S760, transferstation, Samplifier > >I recently purchased TransferStation for my s760 and must say that, while >the disk transfers are great, TS does not create partials or programmes for >the s760, which Samplifier at 10% of the price, does. I would dearly love >to see a programme which will import performance, patch and partial >information over MIDI. MIDI volume dump is so longwinded. Anyone for a >MAC based s760 editor? >Colin Webber > >Colin Webber - Composer, Sound Designer, Bahai. >www.geocities.com/broadway/3428/ > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 22 12:01:08 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-3>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:01:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:49:37 -0400 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:48:47 -0400 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA134710558; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:49:18 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199607221549.AA134710558@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Mon, 22 Jul 96 15:49:17 UTC 0000 ( from inet01# ; Mon, 22 Jul 96 15:49:03 UTC 0000) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:42:00 -0400 To: peterfit@MICROSOFT.com Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 8927821 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 891119 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: RE: sgroup S760, transferstati Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply: Item #8926209 from PETERFIT@MICROSOFT.COM@INET01# Ya'll - Is it possible to use one of those multidisk CD ROM players with the S-760? If so, how do you call up the different disks? - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 22 12:19:06 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-3>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:18:57 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:02:14 -0400 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:00:36 -0400 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA139300818; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:53:38 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199607221553.AA139300818@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Mon, 22 Jul 96 15:53:37 UTC 0000 ( from inet00# ; Mon, 22 Jul 96 15:53:20 UTC 0000) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:42:00 -0400 To: cmarks@ucla.edu Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 0992969 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 679238 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sgroup I can't take it anymore Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply: Item #8038673 from CMARKS@UCLA.EDU@INET00# Craig - That sounds pretty horrifying. I assume you've called Roland about it? I vaguely remember having a similar problem with floppies I had formatted saying later that they were unformatted. Hasn't happened lately though. One thing is for sure, these things always happen when you have a deadline. - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 22 15:35:42 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:35:40 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <126>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:20:13 -0400 Received: from mail.clarityconnect.com ([206.64.143.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:19:21 -0400 Received: from [204.118.203.232] by mail.clarityconnect.com with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:21:47 +0000 X-Sender: dsw@mail.clarityconnect.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:17:16 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Doug Wyatt Subject: Re: sgroup S760, transferstation, Samplifier Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Colin Webber wrote: > I recently purchased TransferStation for my s760 and must say that, while > the disk transfers are great, TS does not create partials or programmes for > the s760, which Samplifier at 10% of the price, does. I would dearly love > to see a programme which will import performance, patch and partial > information over MIDI. MIDI volume dump is so longwinded. Anyone for a > MAC based s760 editor? > Colin Webber I'm looking into ways to integrate Samplifier more with Mac-based music-making tools, but I still really like the S-760's mouse and monitor user interface for most editing functions, so I don't think you'll see future versions of Samplifier trying to replicate those. The longwindedness of MIDI volume dump is at least partially unavoidable; the S-760 provides for very large numbers of samples, partials, patches and performances in memory at once, and it's not fast to determine exactly which of all those potential objects exist and need to be transferred. Peter Fitzpatrick wrote: > "Samplifier" > > What is it ? > Where can I find it ? It provides MIDI Sample Dump and SCSI transfer of samples between a Mac and S-760. It also has a couple of utility functions to automatically build partials from samples and patches from partials. More info at: http://www.sonosphere.com/sonosphere/samplifier/ I also submitted it to Info-Mac, CompuServe's Macintosh MIDI Music forum and AOL's MMS (Macintosh Music and Sound) forum. Doug --- Doug Wyatt Sonosphere - music, music software doug@sonosphere.com http://www.sonosphere.com/sonosphere/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 22 16:32:07 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:32:01 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <137>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:18:50 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:17:52 -0400 Received: from [38.14.108.224] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id QAA02583; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:17:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199607222017.QAA02583@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: sgroup RC-100 special deal! Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:20:31 -0400 x-sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I recently stumbled upon a fire sale at a Roland dealer and they were blowing out the RC-100 (the remote control for S-50 and S-700 series units, including S-760, etc...). It's awesome for scrubbing and alphanumeric data entry, etc... These were originally $350 (retail) but I negotiated a "buy the entire lot" deal. I have 4 available @ $50 each + shipping. US addresses only for shipping economy, etc.... We can accept visa/mastercard to make things easy.... Thanks, JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 22 16:47:48 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:47:36 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:31:24 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <136>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:17:58 -0400 Received: from [38.14.108.224] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id QAA02586; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:17:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199607222017.QAA02586@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: sgroup Ultra Freakin' Bass/Roland CD-ROM ships Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 16:20:37 -0400 x-sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Ultra Freakin' Bass/Roland CD-ROM ships! Just a quick announcement that the Roland 700 series version CD-ROM of Ultra Freakin is now shipping. SH004-R US$retail $199.95 This is a single CD-ROM that contains all the samples found on UFB audio disc #1, of course mapped and edited for the Roland.... There is no duplication whatsoever between this ROM and the Will Lee Bass Library CD-ROMs... all new samples, in the "ultra Freakin' Will Lee style". For more info, and distributors/where to buy, please visit our web site... http://www.sampleheads.com Thanks for allowing me to post this announcement here. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 22 22:54:33 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:54:21 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <138>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:37:18 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.2.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <136>; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:36:29 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.8) id TAA10052; Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:36:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199607230236.TAA10052@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup I can't take it anymore!!! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R If this is an internal CDROM drive, you must remove the CDROM extension from your mac sys folder. The 760 will then recognize your CD and your Mac wont continually spit it out. At 02:48 PM 7/21/96 -0400, you wrote: >I don't know what the hell is going on with my damn 760!?!?!?!?!!??! It >recognizes the CD drive but says that the roland sample CD is >"unformatted"! While this is annoying and frustrating, since I can't load >any sounds from CD, it can wait 'til monday or tuesday. I hooked up my Jaz >drive to the system and formatted a cart. No problem (other than it taking >forever). Then, when I went to go save something on that formatted cart., >the 760 says "unformatted"! I'm sampling in a bunch of stuff b/c I have a >job that's due on Monday and I can't get the damn thing to save >anything!!!!! When I saved the performance to floppies (it took 7 >floppies) it worked......but disk number 5 had an error (it would have been >nice if it told me that before I saved the stuff and powered down the >unit!) so I couldn't load the performance and had to resample everything! >What do I do? Any suggestions? Have you run into this before? Is this >some sort of compatibility problem with the Jaz drive? Do I have a screwed >up 760? AAaarrgghh! > -Craig > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 25 12:59:33 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:59:16 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:43:04 -0400 Received: from uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:42:07 -0400 Received: from [10.0.2.15] (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm) by uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01275; Thu, 25 Jul 96 11:41:17-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:43:00 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm (Richard Sven Patterson) Subject: sgroup new removables and the S-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I am interested in experiences good and bad that people who own the Roland S-760 have had with the following removables. 1) Iomega's Jaz drive 2) Syquest EZ135 3) Syquest EZ230 Flyer. If you have used these devices with your S-760, could you please also tell me how long you have used them. thanks in advance, richard sven richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 809-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 809-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 25 13:39:06 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:38:57 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:28:22 -0400 Received: from cbgw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:27:33 -0400 Received: from aloft by cbig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id NAA02511; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:22:22 -0400 Received: from acropolis (acropolis.cnet.att.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA18838; Thu, 25 Jul 96 13:27:17 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA12180; Thu, 25 Jul 96 13:27:14 EDT Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:27:14 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9607251727.AA12180@acropolis> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup new removables and the S-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R So sayeth richard sven patterson: > I am interested in experiences good and bad that people who own the Roland > S-760 have had with the following removables. I don't have the removable drives that you mentioned but this might be of use to somebody, somewhere... I bought my S760 in March, 1995 and shortly thereafter added a Glyph unit that has a CD-ROM and a Syquest 270MB removable. Last week, the S760 would go off to lala land whenever it tried to scan the SCSI devices, unless the Glyph unit was turned off. A call to Roland... "Those 270s are famous for adding in their terminators even if they're in the middle of the SCSI chain." Sure enough, my S760 was connected to the Syquest and the CD-ROM player was last in line. Reversing the order solved my problem. My SCSI chain is now like this: S760 <--> CD-ROM <--> Syquest 270MB and all is well in SCSI-land once again. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 25 15:21:29 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-3>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:21:19 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:08:59 -0400 Received: from gomez.JPL.NASA.GOV ([128.149.80.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:08:08 -0400 Received: (from martino@localhost) by gomez.JPL.NASA.GOV (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA02527; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:06:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:06:31 -0400 From: "Martin R. Olah" Message-Id: <199607251906.MAA02527@gomez.JPL.NASA.GOV> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca CC: martino@gomez.JPL.NASA.GOV In-reply-to: william.b.fox's message of Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:27:14 -0400 <9607251727.AA12180@acropolis> Subject: sgroup S50 to S550 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I have a question about the S550. I already have an S50, but would like to save some room. Is there a way I can load my S50 disks into an S550 so that the patches are set up automatically the same way? I wouldn't want to adjust all the various settings again. Or can I only load the tones? If not the S550, can this be done on the S330, or any other rack module? Thanks, Martin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 25 16:33:21 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-3>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:33:11 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:19:36 -0400 Received: from cbgw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:18:46 -0400 Received: from aloft by cbig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id QAA09825; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:13:45 -0400 Received: from acropolis (acropolis.cnet.att.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA23940; Thu, 25 Jul 96 16:17:27 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA13946; Thu, 25 Jul 96 16:17:25 EDT Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:17:25 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9607252017.AA13946@acropolis> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S50 to S550 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Martin said: > Is there a way I can load my S50 disks into an S550 so that the patches are > set up automatically the same way? I wouldn't want to adjust all the various > settings again. Or can I only load the tones? The S550 can do a convert load of S50 disks. You can load in two disks' worth of data. Patches look just like they did on the S50. The S550 has eight outputs. How about the S50? Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jul 25 19:03:22 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-3>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:03:14 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:51:09 -0400 Received: from gomez.JPL.NASA.GOV ([128.149.80.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:50:19 -0400 Received: (from martino@localhost) by gomez.JPL.NASA.GOV (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA04232; Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:48:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 18:48:39 -0400 From: "Martin R. Olah" Message-Id: <199607252248.PAA04232@gomez.JPL.NASA.GOV> To: wbf@aloft.att.com CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-reply-to: william.b.fox's message of Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:17:25 -0400 <9607252017.AA13946@acropolis> Subject: sgroup S50 to S550 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >The S550 can do a convert load of S50 disks. You can load in two disks' >worth of data. Patches look just like they did on the S50. Great, I guess that's what I'll do then. >The S550 has eight outputs. How about the S50? Four. It sounds like the S550 is two S50's in one module. Thanks for the info, Martin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 26 07:34:23 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:34:13 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:18:42 -0400 Received: from mailgate.telecom.ie ([159.134.141.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:17:51 -0400 Received: from smtpgw.dundrum.telecom.ie by mailgate.telecom.ie (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41208; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:23:09 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgw id AA838408679; Fri, 26 Jul 96 12:12:18 gmt Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:12:18 -0400 From: emanning@telecom.ie Message-Id: <9606268384.AA838408679@smtpgw> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S50 to S550 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO As far as I know, the SCSI version of the S550 o.s. (for CD-ROM and hard disk) is the one which gives "Patch Load". This will load just the parameters (inc keyboard map) and tones associated with a patch BUT :- 1) If you patch load a second patch from the same disk which uses the same tones, the tones will be loaded again. 2) I've never tried patch load from an S50 disk, only S550 disks. Ed ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: sgroup S50 to S550 Author: "Martin R. Olah" at csgnet Date: 26/07/96 06:40 Hi, I have a question about the S550. I already have an S50, but would like to save some room. Is there a way I can load my S50 disks into an S550 so that the patches are set up automatically the same way? I wouldn't want to adjust all the various settings again. Or can I only load the tones? If not the S550, can this be done on the S330, or any other rack module? Thanks, Martin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jul 26 09:45:27 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-2>; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:45:21 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:36:04 -0400 Received: from service1.cc.uky.edu ([128.163.18.80]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:35:14 -0400 Received: from [128.163.80.175] ([128.163.80.175]) by service1.cc.uky.edu (8.7.Beta.13/8.7.Beta.13) with SMTP id JAA20513 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:35:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: service1.cc.uky.edu: Host [128.163.80.175] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960726093500.229f4d8e@pop.uky.edu> X-Sender: mattone@pop.uky.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Michael Mattone Subject: sgroup Does anyone still have a / remember the W-30? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO My W-30 is acting weird. After formatting an already formatted (for Yamaha or IBM/compatibles) floppy disk as a Sound & Song disk, the disk has only 6% free, which, needless to say, makes an enormous pile of unused floppies even less useful to me. I called Roland's tech support line, and, although they were able to reproduce this error (with a Korg-formatted disk this time), they couldn't offer me a solution and promised to call me back if they came up with an answer. It's been at least a few weeks and I haven't heard a word. I am using the most recent OS (v1.10), direct from Roland. Up until about a year ago, I had been using v1.06 and I don't recall encountering this problem before then (but I never consciously and/or deliberately tested it). If v1.06 passes this litmus test, I'm seriously considering switching back to my old OS. Any comments? What would I be missing? Thus far, I haven't noticed a single difference but my use of this piece has evolved over the years so I may simply not have been accessing the same features as before. Has anyone ever encountered this (or a similar) problem? And, more importantly, what did you have to do about it? Any suggestions outside of "buy a new sampler" (yes, I know how good they are) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Mike Mattone (mattone@pop.uky.edu) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jul 27 08:15:21 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-2>; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:15:08 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 07:58:43 -0400 Received: from mbox.vol.it ([194.20.35.111]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 07:57:49 -0400 Received: from tina51.vol.it by mbox.vol.it with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA173448648; Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:57:28 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 07:57:28 -0400 X-Sender: brunello@mbox.vol.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: brunello@mbox.vol.it Subject: sgroup S-330 crash help please... Message-Id: <96Jul27.075749edt.16@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi everybody! Today i was goin to load a system disk on my s-330.Suddendly the operation aborted while the load countdown was at 42. I turned it off , waiting for 5 sec. , then turning on. Now all i got is a black monitor screen, all the frontlights ( mode,men=F9 ,submen=F9 , roll etc.) on,the midi light on and the lcd display where the first raw is black filled while the second is clear.Obviously it does'nt work anymore !!!=20 What's goin'on? Help me please!!! Bruno Soul surgeon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jul 28 18:04:26 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:04:16 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id SAA32637 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 18:04:14 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 17:51:23 -0400 Received: from shell.wco.com ([199.4.94.16]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 17:50:18 -0400 Received: (from ai@localhost) by shell.wco.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA18205; Sun, 28 Jul 1996 14:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 17:50:03 -0400 From: Message-Id: <199607282150.OAA18205@shell.wco.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup ** HELP: Roland S770 pros/cons vs. S760?? Also Emu/Akai xfer Q's ** Cc: ai@shell.wco.com Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hello, I am about to buy a Roland S770 (OS v2.21) from a friend (I think for ~ US$1700) - and would like to know any information regarding the following: 0. I read Roland has stopped supporting the S770. If this is true, is this a big problem? (or not - because, the latest OS for the S770 is stable, powerful, flexible - ie the OS has plenty of great features that will keep me happy for some time to come?) 1. *OR* - should I skip the S770 and really try to buy a loaded S760 instead??? (or - Roland's not planning a successor to the S760 any time soon are they ?!?!?) 2. is it easy to download the latest/final S770 OS onto my Mac then transfer it over for loading (floppy?) to the S770. 3. what are the benefits of the Roland S770 sampler vs. Roland S760 sampler (especially disk O.S.) ? (or S760 benefits over S770?). 4. are there any utilities/freeware/applications that will allow me to read an Emu/Akai sample CDROM disk (on my Mac) and then convert the samples/patches/libraries from Emu/Akai format into Roland S770 format ? (ie Alchemy?) 5. are there any utilities/freeware/applications that will next allow me to transfer the Emu/Akai -> Roland converted samples/patches/libraries on my Mac via SCSI over to a Roland S770 sampler? (or can the S770 simply read a Roland file saved directly onto my Mac hard disk?) Thanks in advance for any help/pointers on these questions. Please respond directly to me at: ai@wco.com since I am not reliably receiving SGROUP emails yet. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 29 07:15:22 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:15:12 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:03:22 -0400 Received: from mail.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:02:32 -0400 Received: from netvision.net.il (ts024p11.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.103.193]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24544; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:01:17 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <31FC9A46.4DC4@netvision.net.il> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:02:30 -0400 From: Ronen Hillel Organization: RH MIDIstudio X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ai@wco.com CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup ** HELP: Roland S770 pros/cons vs. S760?? Also Emu/Akai xfer Q's ** References: <199607282150.OAA18205@shell.wco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ai@wco.com wrote: > > Hello, > > I am about to buy a Roland S770 (OS v2.21) from a friend (I think > for ~ US$1700) - and would like to know any information regarding the > following: > > 0. I read Roland has stopped supporting the S770. If this is true, > is this a big problem? (or not - because, the latest OS for the > S770 is stable, powerful, flexible - ie the OS has plenty of great > features that will keep me happy for some time to come?) > > 1. *OR* - should I skip the S770 and really try to buy a loaded S760 > instead??? (or - Roland's not planning a successor to the S760 > any time soon are they ?!?!?) > > 2. is it easy to download the latest/final S770 OS onto my Mac then > transfer it over for loading (floppy?) to the S770. > > 3. what are the benefits of the Roland S770 sampler vs. Roland S760 sampler > (especially disk O.S.) ? (or S760 benefits over S770?). > > 4. are there any utilities/freeware/applications that will allow > me to read an Emu/Akai sample CDROM disk (on my Mac) and then > convert the samples/patches/libraries from Emu/Akai format into > Roland S770 format ? (ie Alchemy?) > > 5. are there any utilities/freeware/applications that will next allow me > to transfer the Emu/Akai -> Roland converted samples/patches/libraries > on my Mac via SCSI over to a Roland S770 sampler? (or can the S770 > simply read a Roland file saved directly onto my Mac hard disk?) > > Thanks in advance for any help/pointers on these questions. > > Please respond directly to me at: > > ai@wco.com > > since I am not reliably receiving SGROUP emails yet. > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca I think you should never buy stuff from friends and family. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 29 09:30:33 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20597-2>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:30:19 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id JAA12171 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:30:15 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:20:28 -0400 Received: from service1.cc.uky.edu ([128.163.18.80]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:19:38 -0400 Received: from [128.163.80.175] ([128.163.80.175]) by service1.cc.uky.edu (8.7.Beta.13/8.7.Beta.13) with SMTP id JAA15808 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:19:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 09:19:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: service1.cc.uky.edu: Host [128.163.80.175] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960729091923.22976806@pop.uky.edu> X-Sender: mattone@pop.uky.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Michael Mattone Subject: Re: sgroup Does anyone still have a / remember the W-30? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 19:19 07/26/1996, gcm@ns.hicom.net wrote: >Sounds like the drive is out of alignment... does that take dd or hd disks >they can not be interchanged It uses double density diskettes, and, yes, I was using only double density diskettes. Sorry, I should've mentioned this in my original post. -Mike Mattone (mattone@pop.uky.edu) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 29 16:29:28 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:29:23 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:44:42 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.2.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:43:51 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.8) id MAA25372; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:43:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199607291943.MAA25372@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup ** HELP: Roland S770 pros/cons vs. S760?? Also Emu/Akai xfer Q's ** Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 05:50 PM 7/28/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am about to buy a Roland S770 (OS v2.21) from a friend (I think >for ~ US$1700) - and would like to know any information regarding the >following: > >0. I read Roland has stopped supporting the S770. If this is true, > is this a big problem? (or not - because, the latest OS for the > S770 is stable, powerful, flexible - ie the OS has plenty of great > features that will keep me happy for some time to come?) I dont know. >1. *OR* - should I skip the S770 and really try to buy a loaded S760 > instead??? (or - Roland's not planning a successor to the S760 > any time soon are they ?!?!?) 770 has XLR analog inputs and twice as many analog outputs. Its a huge piece of equipment vs the little 760. Biggest drawback of the 770 it only holds 16 meg of RAM and in these days of cheap RAM Id go for the max: 760 is 32. I recently read that the 760 is the only roland sampler that works with the SCSI chain of a mac. I have been VERY happy with my 760, and have not found any limitations except polyphony and RAM. i wonder if the 770 has greater polyphony? >2. is it easy to download the latest/final S770 OS onto my Mac then > transfer it over for loading (floppy?) to the S770. Yes I just did it. >3. what are the benefits of the Roland S770 sampler vs. Roland S760 sampler > (especially disk O.S.) ? (or S760 benefits over S770?). 770 has resample, 760 does not, thats all I am aware of. >4. are there any utilities/freeware/applications that will allow > me to read an Emu/Akai sample CDROM disk (on my Mac) and then > convert the samples/patches/libraries from Emu/Akai format into > Roland S770 format ? (ie Alchemy?) Transfer station with the 760 via SCSI. >5. are there any utilities/freeware/applications that will next allow me > to transfer the Emu/Akai -> Roland converted samples/patches/libraries > on my Mac via SCSI over to a Roland S770 sampler? (or can the S770 > simply read a Roland file saved directly onto my Mac hard disk?) Transfer station and samplifier work with the 760 via SCSI. Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 29 16:47:19 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:47:12 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:33:23 -0400 Received: from anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.150.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 16:29:24 -0400 Received: from dialin171.rz.uni-frankfurt.de by anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:13:47 +0000 From: mlauer@stud.uni-frankfurt.de (Michael 'Mickey' Lauer) To: ai Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup ** HELP: Roland S770 pros/cons vs. S760?? Also Emu/Akai xfer Q's ** Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:13:43 -0400 Organization: Design & Developing Reply-To: mlauer@stud.uni-frankfurt.de Message-ID: <31fd0818.22380321@mail.server.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <199607282150.OAA18205@shell.wco.com> In-Reply-To: <199607282150.OAA18205@shell.wco.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On Sun, 28 Jul 1996 17:50:03 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am about to buy a Roland S770 (OS v2.21) from a friend (I think >for ~ US$1700) - and would like to know any information regarding the >following: > >0. I read Roland has stopped supporting the S770. If this is true, > is this a big problem? (or not - because, the latest OS for the > S770 is stable, powerful, flexible - ie the OS has plenty of great > features that will keep me happy for some time to come?) The latest OS is stable. Naturally it's a bit out of date, compared to the current EMU or AKAI samplers. But anyway, it should keep you happy for some time... ;-) >1. *OR* - should I skip the S770 and really try to buy a loaded S760 > instead??? (or - Roland's not planning a successor to the S760 > any time soon are they ?!?!?) IMHO Roland has stopped manufacturing high end sampler, thanks to the great new AKAI's and especially EMU's. >2. is it easy to download the latest/final S770 OS onto my Mac then > transfer it over for loading (floppy?) to the S770. Yes. > >3. what are the benefits of the Roland S770 sampler vs. Roland S760 sampler > (especially disk O.S.) ? (or S760 benefits over S770?). The S760 is the successor of the S770/S750. It additionally has SMDI (SCSI Sample Dump) as well as a number of goodies, which were not needed, when the S770 was released. > >4. are there any utilities/freeware/applications that will allow > me to read an Emu/Akai sample CDROM disk (on my Mac) and then > convert the samples/patches/libraries from Emu/Akai format into > Roland S770 format ? (ie Alchemy?) Yes, there are various conversion utilities available. > >5. are there any utilities/freeware/applications that will next allow me > to transfer the Emu/Akai -> Roland converted samples/patches/libraries > on my Mac via SCSI over to a Roland S770 sampler? (or can the S770 > simply read a Roland file saved directly onto my Mac hard disk?) If you're using SMDI, you can transfer from/to the newer samplers (S760). The S7x0 can only use a complete hard disk. No partitions allowed. On Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:02:30 -0400, Ronen Hillel wrote: > >I think you should never buy stuff from friends and family. > That's a VEEERY useful answer .... :-( - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 29 17:56:57 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:56:52 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:47:05 -0400 Received: from mbox.vol.it ([194.20.35.111]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:46:16 -0400 Received: from tina30.vol.it by mbox.vol.it with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA199086754; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:45:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:45:54 -0400 X-Sender: brunello@mbox.vol.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: brunello@mbox.vol.it Subject: sgroup S-330 crash ..S.O.S. please Message-Id: <96Jul29.174616edt.16@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does Anybody knows what goin'on with my s-330? When I turn it on the display has the first raw black and the second white. Obviously it does'nt work anymore... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 29 19:02:58 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:02:49 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:53:05 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.2.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:52:14 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.8) id PAA20040; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 15:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 18:51:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199607292251.PAA20040@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 crash ..S.O.S. please Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R My only suggestion is open up the box and unplug and replug any unplugable items (ie internal battery, did you check this anyways?) Dont go tearing things off, but youd be amazed what this can do. My 760 got stuck once and I disconnected and reconnected the optional card, and that fixed it! At 05:45 PM 7/29/96 -0400, you wrote: >Does Anybody knows what goin'on with my s-330? >When I turn it on the display has the first raw black and the second white. >Obviously it does'nt work anymore... > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jul 29 21:42:42 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-1>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:42:29 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:33:02 -0400 Received: from m4.pcix.com ([204.179.180.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:32:13 -0400 Received: from [204.179.183.120] (hingham120.pcix.com [204.179.183.120]) by m4.pcix.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id VAA28607 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 1996 21:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 16:33:13 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) Subject: sgroup color monitor/s550 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I just picked up a 15 inch color monitor, It cost me $9.95 at a thrift store. It is an Amdek (weirdo brand) color 11. The reason I grabbed it is that it has an 8 pin adapter on the back like the one pictured in the S550 manual . It also says video monitor and has a 1982 date on it. Can this unit be used with my s550? And where do you think I can get the connector,8 pin din looking job,...Roland? thanks if any can shed some lite on this...ugmold ___________________________ 0 0 l confusion is fun +++++ ___________________________ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 30 02:23:49 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-1>; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:23:47 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id CAA16458 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:23:45 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:14:53 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:14:19 -0400 Received: from [38.14.108.7] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id CAA26256; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:13:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199607300613.CAA26256@smtp2.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup ** HELP: Roland S770 pros/cons vs. S760?? Also Emu/A Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 02:16:59 -0400 x-sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "sgroup" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >IMHO Roland has stopped manufacturing high end sampler, thanks to the >great new AKAI's and especially EMU's. You're not serious, are you? Until the file format of the AKAI gets a re-write to a heirarchial system, there's no way I'd ever compare.... also interface issues (video monitoring, etc...) Additionally (and almost as important as other issues), 760 is 1 rack sapce. Anyone who says rack real estate is cheap has never tourered at ANY level.... each rack space used by a module is a rack space not available to other devices. For every 760, I have 2 more slots open for other hardware, as compared to Emu/Akai... and this *is* a very significant thing. Finally, the live performance features of the 760 are 2nd to none. The flexibility that the Volume/performance/patch structure gives you for live applications is tops in the biz. ** BTW, these are *my* opinions, not the opinions of my company. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 30 03:36:11 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-3>; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 03:36:00 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 03:23:52 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 03:23:14 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06197; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:22:12 -0200 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 07:22:08 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Jeremy Roberts cc: Roland Subject: sgroup DISPLAY on a S760. In-Reply-To: <199607300613.CAA26256@smtp2.interramp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hallo all, Long time no hear. I would first of all like to say that I am on the sidelines and realy enjoy this mailing list. Thank you to Jeremy for all the great tips. My question: I have got a S760 and the display has lost one line on the LED display. I am wondering if this is an indication of the unit busy going faulty or if it is just a loose connection. I use my S760 as one of my main instruments in my setup and can not afford to loose much time on the repair of the unit. I also KNOW not to fiddel with the unit. The impact is that on the unit the 1st line in preformance mode has got a line through. It almost looks like the 1st line of information is underlined. Thank you for your time. Aubrey Kloppers Suid Afrika ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jul 30 20:06:02 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-3>; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:05:53 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA12661 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:05:49 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:54:00 -0400 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:53:11 -0400 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA075130789; Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:53:09 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199607302353.AA075130789@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Tue, 30 Jul 96 23:53:06 UTC 0000 ( from inet00# ; Tue, 30 Jul 96 23:40:47 UTC 0000) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 19:13:00 -0400 To: kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 0189945 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 753304 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sgroup DISPLAY on a S760. Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply: Item #4263391 from KLOPPERS@NET3.SBIC.CO.ZA@INET00# Hi - First of all, I'm confused as to where this message is going. After popping open my reply window, it looks like it's going to Aubrey Klopper with an acc. to the s-group. Aubrey, please let me know if you got this as seperate e-mail. But what I really wanted to ask was: Have any of you had any experience using Akai format CD Rom disks with the 760? Do the sounds come up in the usual way? Like in a performance? Or are they patches that you can call up into a performance? Would you know that they weren't Roland format patches from how they come up? I've heard there's a little bit of high end roll off with Akai sounds. Anyone noticed this? Thanks - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 31 03:22:27 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 03:22:14 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 03:09:54 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 03:08:57 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00920; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 09:07:37 -0200 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 07:07:31 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: t.dunbar2@genie.com cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup DISPLAY on a S760. In-Reply-To: <199607302353.AA075010787@relay1.geis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Tommy, yes I did get the mail. I am currently in the process of connecting/setting up a SCSI CDROM to my system. I have some AKAI CD roms that i believe can be read by the S760. Am I right in saying that S760 can read Akai CDroms? Thank you Aubrey Kloppers Suid Afrika On Tue, 30 Jul 1996 t.dunbar2@genie.com wrote: > Reply: Item #4263391 from KLOPPERS@NET3.SBIC.CO.ZA@INET00# > > Hi - > > First of all, I'm confused as to where this message is going. > After popping open my reply window, it looks like it's going to > Aubrey Klopper with an acc. to the s-group. Aubrey, please let me > know if you got this as seperate e-mail. > > But what I really wanted to ask was: > > Have any of you had any experience using Akai format CD Rom disks > with the 760? Do the sounds come up in the usual way? Like in a > performance? Or are they patches that you can call up into a > performance? Would you know that they weren't Roland format patches > from how they come up? I've heard there's a little bit of high end > roll off with Akai sounds. Anyone noticed this? > > Thanks - Tommy > > > ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) "The future will be better tomorrow." -- Vice President Dan Quayle - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 31 04:15:03 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-3>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:14:57 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:04:21 -0400 Received: from mail.clarityconnect.com ([206.64.143.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:03:31 -0400 Received: from [205.232.34.106] by mail.clarityconnect.com with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:06:14 +0000 X-Sender: dsw@mail.clarityconnect.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199607302353.AA075010787@relay1.geis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 04:07:21 -0400 To: Aubrey , t.dunbar2@genie.com From: Doug Wyatt Subject: Re: sgroup DISPLAY on a S760. Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 7:07 -0400 7/31/96, Aubrey wrote: > I have some AKAI CD > roms that i believe can be read by the S760. > > Am I right in saying that S760 can read Akai CDroms? > On Tue, 30 Jul 1996 t.dunbar2@genie.com wrote: > > Have any of you had any experience using Akai format CD Rom disks > > with the 760? Do the sounds come up in the usual way? Like in a > > performance? Or are they patches that you can call up into a > > performance? Would you know that they weren't Roland format patches > > from how they come up? I've heard there's a little bit of high end > > roll off with Akai sounds. Anyone noticed this? I have a demo CD-ROM in Akai format here. It's not the easiest to work with. The sounds are quite slow to load and maybe you do lose some high end. One does get a glimpse of how much more nicely the S-760 file system is designed though. Doug -- Doug Wyatt software development, Opcode Systems Inc. doug@opcode.com http://www.sonosphere.com/sonosphere/doug/ <- moved - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 31 05:19:25 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20595-2>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 05:19:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 05:08:26 -0400 Received: from birillo ([194.20.96.129]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 05:07:35 -0400 Received: from [194.183.3.219] by birillo (NTMail 3.02.07) with ESMTP id ya309658 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 11:07:30 +0200 Message-ID: <31FFA0C1.1E3C@relay.uni.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 14:06:57 -0400 From: Giovanni Vogrig Organization: Editoriale la Repubblica Spa X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Scsi kit for S-330 and other questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: UniNet by Unidata Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Ciao, I'm a S-330 owner. Here few questions: 1. What is the latest Operating System version for S-330? 2. What is the latest Utility version for S-330? 3. Is there the possibility to get some SCSI connection kit for S-330? 4. What brand of mouse can you connect to the S-330 other than the expensive (and hard to find) Roland mouse? Any known pin-to-pin adjustments to use a regular PC or Atari mouse with the S-330? Thanks in advance for your help. Ciao. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jul 31 17:18:31 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20596-2>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:18:24 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:06:42 -0400 Received: from cbgw2.att.com ([192.20.239.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:05:52 -0400 Received: from aloft by cbig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id RAA25876; Wed, 31 Jul 1996 17:04:05 -0400 Received: from acropolis (acropolis.cnet.att.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA02164; Wed, 31 Jul 96 17:05:30 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA05210; Wed, 31 Jul 96 15:29:01 EDT Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 15:29:01 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9607311929.AA05210@acropolis> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Importing from an Akai CD-ROM Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Tommay asks: > Have any of you had any experience using Akai format CD Rom disks > with the 760? Do the sounds come up in the usual way? Like in a My S760 came with some CDs, some audio-only and others CD-ROM, one of which is in Akai S1000 format. It's been a long while since I loaded anything from it so my memory is a little hazy on the topic. But I'm fairly certain that it loads patches. You have to make volumes out of them. Why does it load patches and not volumes? Because a volume is a Roland thing about which the Akai format is clueless. There's also extra loading time while the Akai parameters are converted for the Roland's use. To speed up loading, save these samples (in S760 format, of course) on your read/writable SCSI media. That will eliminate the conversion time when loading them in. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca