From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 01:39:03 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:38:57 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:27:31 -0500 Received: from relay5.UU.NET ([192.48.96.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:26:41 -0500 Received: from uucp6.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQajnd20999; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp6.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:26:50 -0500 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id WAA21673; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:12:50 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:19:27 -0500 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup S770 and creating To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>sgroup S770 and creating CD-ROMs Kit Watkins writes: > Does anyone have any experience creating CD-ROMs for the Roland S770 > (or S760) sampler? Is there any PC / Windows (or other) software > that anybody knows about that is versatile enough to read and write > the Roland disk format through SCSI? I just talked to Roland about this recently. They said that the procedure was simply to set up a hard-drive image of the CD using Roland sampler's file system, and then create the CD by doing a direct, bit-for-bit copy of that drive (please forgive me, I'm sure that bit-for-bit is not the correct term). So, the program just needs to be able to do direct copies of a source disk; it doesn't need to explicitly support the Roland format (I wonder if any do). They said that Toast will do, for instance. - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 02:13:55 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:13:50 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id CAA09887; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:13:43 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:01:18 -0500 Received: from kuikka.inet.fi ([192.89.123.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:00:28 -0500 Received: from [193.208.255.178] (user-6-24.dial.inet.fi) by kuikka.inet.fi with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA299742004; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:00:04 +0200 X-Sender: eskora-1@pop.inet.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:02:26 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi (Illusion Rake) Subject: Re: sgroup S770 and creating CD-ROMs Message-Id: <96Apr1.020028est.11@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Does anyone have any experience creating CD-ROMs for the Roland= S770 >(or S760) sampler? Is there any PC / Windows (or other) software >that anybody knows about that is versatile enough to read and write >the Roland disk format through SCSI? The basic method is to do a SCSI copy of the sampler=B4s hard drive. Any CD-mastering company will do that for you with a cost of a blank CD-R and one studio hour. IR =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Illusion Rake producer/artist ProVoice Productions Oy Lukiokatu 36=20 HAMEENLINNA, Finland email: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 02:43:36 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:43:24 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:31:00 -0500 Received: from atlas.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.250]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:29:55 -0500 Received: from coyote.csusm.edu (ciscots2_8.csusm.edu) by atlas.csusm.edu; id AA01372 sendmail 4.1/CSUSM-GW-1.2 Sun, 31 Mar 96 23:31:59 PST for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <9604010731.AA01372@atlas.csusm.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Nation of Lies To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:29:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup FS: HD for S550 and W30 Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I have an extra Seagate ST277N 64MB hard disk that I've used with my W30 in the past forsale. It's currently mounted in an Apple Crate, and I'm asking $75/obo. (When I used the drive, it was in another case, so I don't know if this combo works, although I can't see why it wouldn't. Even if it didn't, all it would take would be one additional cable and it would still be neat and tidy.) I wouldn't normally post a for sale to this group, but I know that drives that work with these units can be hard to find... ___________________________________________________________ _|ames \/\/. Thomas |\|ation of |_ies http://www.csusm.edu/public/thoma003/index.html Mail List Info: email w/"help NOL" in subject ___________________________________________________________ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 04:14:20 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:14:12 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:02:00 -0500 Received: from sw.sowest.net ([205.214.33.200]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:00:33 -0500 Received: from Disneyland.sowest.net ([205.214.33.242]) by sw.sowest.net (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 89-11844) with SMTP id AAA186 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:58:36 -0800 Message-ID: <315F9A51.1BBC@sw.sowest.net> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 03:56:49 -0500 From: wdisneyjas@sowest.net (Jason Correa) Organization: Disneyland U.S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S-550 mouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone know if a regular IBM type mouse can be pluged into the S-550 and still work properly? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 04:30:43 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:30:29 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:16:06 -0500 Received: from sw.sowest.net ([205.214.33.200]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:14:04 -0500 Received: from Disneyland.sowest.net ([205.214.33.242]) by sw.sowest.net (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 89-11844) with SMTP id AAA66 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:05:05 -0800 Message-ID: <315F9BD5.28F0@sw.sowest.net> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:03:18 -0500 From: wdisneyjas@sowest.net (Jason Correa) Organization: Disneyland U.S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Version? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R What's the most current version (operating system) for the S-550 and where can I get it? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 04:45:28 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:45:17 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:29:52 -0500 Received: from sw.sowest.net ([205.214.33.200]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <39>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:14:15 -0500 Received: from Disneyland.sowest.net ([205.214.33.242]) by sw.sowest.net (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 89-11844) with SMTP id AAA159 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:07:36 -0800 Message-ID: <315F9C6C.3A46@sw.sowest.net> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:05:48 -0500 From: wdisneyjas@sowest.net (Jason Correa) Organization: Disneyland U.S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Dispaly question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Is the display graphics the same for the S-330 as it is for the S-550? Is it me or does the graphics for the S-550 look chessie and out dated?! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 05:00:59 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 05:00:52 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id FAA20287 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 05:00:42 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:45:45 -0500 Received: from sw.sowest.net ([205.214.33.200]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <67>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:14:31 -0500 Received: from Disneyland.sowest.net ([205.214.33.242]) by sw.sowest.net (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 89-11844) with SMTP id AAA189 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:09:36 -0800 Message-ID: <315F9CE5.1B9E@sw.sowest.net> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:07:49 -0500 From: wdisneyjas@sowest.net (Jason Correa) Organization: Disneyland U.S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup SCSI card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Where can I get a SCSI card for the S-550? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 14:43:19 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:43:14 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:32:41 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <39>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 14:31:51 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts022p5.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.103.151]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA12733 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:33:06 +0300 Message-ID: <3160CB49.113F@netvision.net.il> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:38:01 -0500 From: Ronen Hillel Organization: RH MIDIstudio X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup my s760 tiks :( Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R hi today i got a 8mega simm and my sampler started tiking,what can bee the problem ? when i pluged it out the tiks stopt so i am shoor its the simm. can a too slow or too fast simm do thet ? did it hapen to you ? what should a tell the man in the mac store ? -- DONT LET THE SUN GO DOUN ON ME. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 16:49:18 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:49:13 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:38:34 -0500 Received: from red-06-imc.itg.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.29]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:37:44 -0500 Received: by red-06-imc.itg.microsoft.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BB1FD0.78E9FDC0@red-06-imc.itg.microsoft.com>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:38:12 -0800 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: re: sgroup S770 and creating CD-ROMs Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:36:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R can anyone tell me if there is an 80MB limit on CD-ROMs created ? (same as the harddisk limit) .....I'm thinking of making a ROM of my hard-disk...... -Peter=20 >---------- >From: > rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi[SMTP:rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi] >Sent: 01 April 1996 07:02 >To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca >Subject: Re: sgroup S770 and creating CD-ROMs > >>Does anyone have any experience creating CD-ROMs for the Roland S770 >>(or S760) sampler? Is there any PC / Windows (or other) software >>that anybody knows about that is versatile enough to read and write >>the Roland disk format through SCSI? > > >The basic method is to do a SCSI copy of the sampler=B4s hard drive. >Any CD-mastering company will do that for you with a cost of a >blank CD-R and one studio hour. > > >IR > > > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >Illusion Rake >producer/artist > >ProVoice Productions Oy >Lukiokatu 36=20 >HAMEENLINNA, Finland >email: >rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 17:58:21 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88180-1>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:58:11 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id RAA07745 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:58:05 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:47:32 -0500 Received: from m3.pcix.com ([204.179.180.14]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:46:58 -0500 Received: from [204.179.183.2] (hingham2.pcix.com [204.179.183.2]) by m3.pcix.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA11988 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:46:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 17:46:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199604012246.RAA11988@m3.pcix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) Subject: sgroup Still lookin' Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Howdy, Again I'm looking for a small app. that will allow me to thru (Mac) to my S550 from my M1 while I have other applications open and limited Ram. (Don't we all) I did see one a year ago and have been searching ever since. ug ----------------- Confusion is Fun ----------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 19:05:29 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:05:25 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:53:54 -0500 Received: from red-07-imc.itg.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.31]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:53:05 -0500 Received: by red-07-imc.itg.microsoft.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BB1FE3.6BFAB3D0@red-07-imc.itg.microsoft.com>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:53:51 -0800 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: RE: sgroup S770 and creating CD-ROMs Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:47:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Oops, Small mistake,=20 forgot to omit one piece of important info. I'm thinking of transferring my 80MB harddrive to CD-ROM. The reason I ask about the limit on the size of the CD is that there is an 80MB disksize limit for W30 disks. maybe someone with a W30 compatible CD-ROM disc can confirm/deny this ? Peter Fitzpatrick Multimedia Production Manager >---------- >From: Peter Fitzpatrick >Sent: 01 April 1996 22:36 >To: 'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca' >Subject: re: sgroup S770 and creating CD-ROMs > >can anyone tell me if there is an 80MB limit on CD-ROMs created ? (same >as the harddisk limit) >.....I'm thinking of making a ROM of my hard-disk...... >-Peter=20 > >---------- >From: > rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi[SMTP:rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi] >Sent: 01 April 1996 07:02 >To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca >Subject: Re: sgroup S770 and creating CD-ROMs > >>Does anyone have any experience creating CD-ROMs for the Roland S770 >>(or S760) sampler? Is there any PC / Windows (or other) software >>that anybody knows about that is versatile enough to read and write >>the Roland disk format through SCSI? > > >The basic method is to do a SCSI copy of the sampler=B4s hard drive. >Any CD-mastering company will do that for you with a cost of a >blank CD-R and one studio hour. > > >IR > > > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > >Illusion Rake >producer/artist > >ProVoice Productions Oy >Lukiokatu 36=20 >HAMEENLINNA, Finland >email: >rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 19:45:00 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:44:53 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:31:00 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:29:39 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26135; Mon, 1 Apr 96 19:25:22 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 16073b20; Mon, 1 Apr 96 19:24:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:20:27 -0500 Message-Id: <16073b20@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: Re: sgroup S-550 mouse To: wdisneyjas@sowest.net (Jason Correa), sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R DON"T DO IT! You'll damage the mouse port of the S550, a problem that has plagued many of the users on this group (i.e. shorting out the fuse in the mouse port). Doug _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: sgroup S-550 mouse Author: wdisneyjas@sowest.net (Jason Correa) Date: 4/1/96 3:56 AM Does anyone know if a regular IBM type mouse can be pluged into the S-550 and still work properly? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 1 20:04:17 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:04:11 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA13825 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:04:03 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:45:59 -0500 Received: from sw.sowest.net ([205.214.33.200]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:44:39 -0500 Received: from Disneyland.sowest.net ([205.214.33.235]) by sw.sowest.net (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 89-11844) with SMTP id AAA102; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:33:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3160756F.73AA@sw.sowest.net> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:31:43 -0500 From: wdisneyjas@sowest.net (Jason Correa) Organization: Disneyland U.S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Douglas Ramsay CC: Jason Correa , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-550 mouse References: <16073b20@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Douglas Ramsay wrote: > > DON"T DO IT! You'll damage the mouse port of the S550, a problem that has > plagued many of the users on this group (i.e. shorting out the fuse in the > mouse port). > > Doug > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Subject: sgroup S-550 mouse > Author: wdisneyjas@sowest.net (Jason Correa) > Date: 4/1/96 3:56 AM > > Does anyone know if a regular IBM type mouse can be pluged into the > S-550 and still work properly? > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Is there a way to fix this? Is there a fuse inside the unit that I can replace? I think the owner before me did this to the unit, because the MU-1 roland mouse is not responding. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 2 19:53:49 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:53:41 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id TAA11531 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:53:29 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:37:25 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:36:20 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id QAA17342; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 16:36:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:36:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199604030036.QAA17342@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup ROL BACK Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi Just put the cursor on the 100ths place of the sample number and press increase/decrease! At 01:45 AM 3/30/96 -0500, you wrote: >HI >i have a s760 question. >when i scroll dawn in the load menu ,sample-load,and want sample 764 or >so,it takes me a long time to get to the 1sr line,is there a shorter >way? > >this is very frostrating the 10th time ! > >10X > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 2 21:43:22 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 21:43:15 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id VAA14168 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 21:43:13 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 21:30:10 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 21:29:19 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id SAA29210; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:29:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 21:29:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199604030229.SAA29210@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup my s760 tiks :( Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I guess I would try to buy it from one of the suggested RAM dealers on the Roland list, not a Mac dealer. At 01:38 AM 4/2/96 -0500, you wrote: >hi >today i got a 8mega simm and my sampler started tiking,what can bee the >problem ? >when i pluged it out the tiks stopt so i am shoor its the simm. >can a too slow or too fast simm do thet ? >did it hapen to you ? >what should a tell the man in the mac store ? >-- > DONT LET THE SUN GO DOUN ON ME. > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 2 01:57:08 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88188-3>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:56:58 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id BAA25169 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:56:56 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:44:48 -0500 Received: from haven.uniserve.com ([198.53.215.121]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:43:57 -0500 Received: from bbs2.mortimer.com ([204.191.209.7]) by haven.uniserve.com with SMTP id <36684-26297>; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:46:27 -0800 X-Sender: billm@haven.uniserve.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: billm@uniserve.com (Bill Morrison) Subject: sgroup Roland S-10 Sampling Keyboard for Sale Message-Id: <96Apr1.224627pst.36684-26297+1162@haven.uniserve.com> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:46:25 -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Roland S-10 Sampling Keyboard for Sale. Very good condition, asking $350 U.S. or $490 Canadian. Buyer to pay shipping. Negotiable. Should be duty free - used gear, made in Japan. Complete with 40 quick disks (some factory samples), owners manual, quick refence card, hard road case, and even orignal travel card for disk drive. Has a 4 octave/49 note velocity sensitve keyboard, built in quick disk drive, speed data entry dial, pitch/mod lever, and full midi implimentation. Great starter piece or for lighter sampling applications. Sorry, I am not on the mailing list. Please respond via direct Email. Offers or quesitions welcome. Thanks. Bill Morrison billm@uniserve.com Vancouver BC Canada - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 3 00:04:54 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 00:04:40 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:52:20 -0500 Received: from uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:51:31 -0500 Received: from [10.0.2.15] (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm) by uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16057; Tue, 2 Apr 96 23:50:10-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:55:41 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm (Richard Sven Patterson) Subject: Re: sgroup my s760 tiks :( Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I bought my RAM from Bottom Line and also from Chip Merchant and have had no problems with them in the past two years. Make sure they are non-composite, single sided. richard sven >I guess I would try to buy it from one of the suggested RAM dealers on the >Roland list, not a Mac dealer. > > >At 01:38 AM 4/2/96 -0500, you wrote: >>hi >>today i got a 8mega simm and my sampler started tiking,what can bee the >>problem ? >>when i pluged it out the tiks stopt so i am shoor its the simm. >>can a too slow or too fast simm do thet ? >>did it hapen to you ? >>what should a tell the man in the mac store ? >>-- >> DONT LET THE SUN GO DOUN ON ME. >> >>- >>Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >>For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca >> >> >Chris Kirkham >(916)754-8156 >clkirkham@ucdavis.edu > >Risk Sciences Program >Environmental Toxicology Department >U.C. Davis >Davis CA 95616 > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 809-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 809-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 3 22:45:04 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-3>; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:44:52 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:29:05 -0500 Received: from ns.hicom.net ([204.249.216.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:28:14 -0500 Received: from hicom.net (gcmp.hicom.net [204.249.216.94]) by ns.hicom.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA04425 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:27:48 -0500 From: gcmp@hicom.net (Robin Hood) Reply-To: gcm@ns.hicom.net To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (SGroup) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:31:23 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: YAM 1.2 by Marcel Beck Subject: sgroup acess Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hmmm imsorry to bother you again ... what do i enter as a password or login name..... i thought you said i was a member. thanx for your time.... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 3 23:03:45 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-2>; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 23:03:27 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:46:34 -0500 Received: from watserv1.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.128.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:44:51 -0500 Received: from ns.hicom.net by watserv1.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 3 Apr 96 22:38:12 -0500 Received: from hicom.net (gcmp.hicom.net [204.249.216.94]) by ns.hicom.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA04439 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 22:28:05 -0500 From: gcmp@hicom.net (Robin Hood) Reply-To: gcm@ns.hicom.net To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (SGroup) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:31:23 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: YAM 1.2 by Marcel Beck Subject: sgroup acess Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hmmm imsorry to bother you again ... what do i enter as a password or login name..... i thought you said i was a member. thanx for your time.... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 00:46:22 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:46:08 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:35:37 -0500 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:34:48 -0500 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA035635299; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 05:21:39 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199604040521.AA035635299@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Thu, 4 Apr 96 05:21:38 UTC 0000 ( from inet01# ; Thu, 4 Apr 96 05:21:00 UTC 0000) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 00:14:00 -0500 To: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 6224023 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 101825 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: sgroup S770 and creating C Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply: Item #5772716 from RAULI.ESKOLIN@PROVOICE.INET.FI@INET01# Hi - Does anyone know of a group similar to this for the JV-1080? (I use this and an S-760). Thanks - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 08:52:09 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 08:52:01 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 08:36:35 -0500 Received: from adelicia.belmont.edu ([198.146.88.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 08:35:44 -0500 Received: from 198.146.93.194 by BELMONT.EDU (PMDF V4.2-13 #5988) id <01I34WFE9L5C00IRPN@BELMONT.EDU>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 07:35:19 CDT Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 02:41:51 -0500 From: Tony Vincent Subject: sgroup LATEST SYSTEM SOFTWARE (for: s-750 & s-770s) To: Roland Users Group Reply-to: strascinal@BELMONT.EDU Message-id: <31637D3F.26C4@belmont.edu> Organization: Tony Vincent Producions, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Attention S-750 & S-770 owners!! There is a new system upgrade for our samplers. The latest version is 2.25. You can down load this from AOL by going to the Roland page and accessing the sampler libarary. (Of course you can call Roland if you'd like to receive it sometime next year...) If you're trying to use (or plan on using in the future) a zip or jazz drive, you need this version to format your disks properly. Blessings, Tony Vincent -- Written Correspondence: "...pay no attention to the Tony Vincent Productions man behind the curtain." P.O. Box 159331 Nashville, TN 37215 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 12:14:33 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-3>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:14:24 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id MAA00653 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:14:19 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:01:24 -0500 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:59:56 -0500 Received: from benj4ang.singnet.com.sg (ts900-2817.singnet.com.sg [165.21.9.101]) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA12975; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:59:15 +0800 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:59:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199604041659.AAA12975@merlion.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: wdisneyjas@sowest.net (Jason Correa), sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: bangg@singnet.com.sg (Benjamin Ang) Subject: Re: sgroup Dispaly question Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 04:05 AM 4/1/96 -0500, Jason Correa wrote: >Is the display graphics the same for the S-330 as it is for the S-550? yes >Is it me or does the graphics for the S-550 look chessie and out dated?! > outdated? considering the S-550 has been around for almost ten years (give or take)? whatever gave you that idea :) outdated or no, be glad you're not squinting into an Akai LCD, or an Ensoniq LED. I don't care if those babies are supposed to have better frequency range than the Rolands- I'd rather save my eyesight by working with a Roland. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B E N J A M I N A N G location: Singapore new e-mail address: bangg@singnet.com.sg EML homepage address: http://www.singnet.com.sg/~bangg/eml.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 12:33:00 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:32:52 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id MAA32161 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:32:46 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:19:39 -0500 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:18:15 -0500 Received: from [38.12.221.164] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id MAA02562; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 12:16:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199604041716.MAA02562@smtp2.interramp.com> Subject: sgroup hi! Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 04:18:46 -0500 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "Roland Users Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R HI! I'm Jeremy Roberts from SAMPLEHEADS. We develop CD-ROMs for the Roland 700 series.... and I'm personally a hard core 760 fan (have 4 of them for my own music). I just discovered this mailing list and I'm happy to have found you all.... Anyone object to my posting new product announcements to the list? We have recently shipped 2 new titles and a 3rd new ROLAND rom is shipping this week.... help me out with group nettiquette, please! :-) Thanks, JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 13:44:33 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:44:27 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:32:19 -0500 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:31:27 -0500 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA096911898; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:18:18 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199604041818.AA096911898@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Thu, 4 Apr 96 18:18:17 UTC 0000 ( from inet# ; Thu, 4 Apr 96 18:17:18 UTC 0000) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 13:13:00 -0500 To: gcm@ns.hicom.net Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 5431919 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 380517 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sgroup acess Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply: Item #5510910 from GCM@NS.HICOM.NET@INET# Hi - Does anyone else on here use an Atari computer? Thanks - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 14:28:10 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:28:03 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:13:00 -0500 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:12:11 -0500 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA144404334; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:58:54 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199604041858.AA144404334@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Thu, 4 Apr 96 18:58:54 UTC 0000 ( from INET02# ; Thu, 4 Apr 96 18:58:33 UTC 0000) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 14:09:00 -0500 To: jeremy@sampleheads.com Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 0982749 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 641829 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sgroup hi! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply: Item #1098587 from JEREMY@SAMPLEHEADS.COM@INET02# Hi Jeremy - Well, I sure don't mind if you post this stuff. I'm new here too by the way. I'd definately like to know about any new Roland CD-ROMs. By the way anyone else out there using an Atari with their S-760? - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 18:14:57 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:14:54 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:01:41 -0500 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com ([198.81.10.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:00:51 -0500 Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA28121 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:00:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:00:40 -0500 From: MatteBlack@aol.com Message-ID: <960404180037_462551981@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Advertising?! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R <> What's the official status on this. We've been monitoring this list for a long time and currently offer an 81 disk library for the S-550, S-330, and W-30. If it's now OK to advertise on this list let us know so all sound companies can post details. MatteBlack@aol.com Patchman Music 2043 Mars Ave. Lakewood, OH 44107 216-221-8887 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 23:28:17 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-1>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:28:11 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id XAA32556 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:28:04 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:14:59 -0500 Received: from europe.std.com ([199.172.62.20]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:14:10 -0500 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.5/BZS-8-1.0) id UAA05790; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA01003; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 19:56:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 19:56:32 -0500 From: mbranco Subject: Re: sgroup Advertising?! To: MatteBlack@aol.com Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <960404180037_462551981@emout04.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On Thu, 4 Apr 1996 MatteBlack@aol.com wrote: > What's the official status on this. We've been monitoring this list for a > long time and currently offer an 81 disk library for the S-550, S-330, and > W-30. If it's now OK to advertise on this list let us know so all sound > companies can post details. My two cents is: post away, but, for this group, please keep it specific to Roland samplers. Same for Jeremy and others... Only my two cents. - Matt Branco - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 23:44:07 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-1>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:43:59 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id XAA09681 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:43:51 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:29:10 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:27:53 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88177-1>; Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:21:10 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: MatteBlack@aol.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Advertising?! Message-Id: <96Apr4.232110est.88177-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 23:20:57 -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 4 18:15:07 1996 | From: MatteBlack@aol.com | To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca | Subject: sgroup Advertising?! | | If it's now OK to advertise on this list let us know so all sound | companies can post details. | | MatteBlack@aol.com | Patchman Music And Jeremy Roberts from Sampleheads asked pretty much the same thing. Well, as the maintainer of the mailing list and the archive, perhaps I should say something. My inclination is that small announcements would be okay i.e. something along the lines of "we sell samples, including some cool ones like australian rules football samples -- for more information, call, write, visit ...". No more than once a month, short and to the point. Any objections from anyone? John jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 00:47:09 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-2>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:47:01 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id AAA21806 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:46:54 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:36:34 -0500 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:35:44 -0500 Received: by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA23101; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 15:34:38 +1000 Message-Id: <9604050534.AA23101@wr.com.au> Subject: Re: sgroup LATEST SYSTEM SOFTWARE (for: s-750 & s-770s) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 00:34:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: <31637D3F.26C4@belmont.edu> from "Tony Vincent" at Apr 4, 96 02:41:51 am From: nic@carrot.com.au (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j} Attention S-750 & S-770 owners!! There is a new system => upgrade for our samplers. The latest version is 2.25. You => you're trying to use (or plan on using in the future) a zip or => jazz drive, you need this version to format your disks => properly. Great news, Tony. Thanks for letting us know. Would any kind soul be able to upload it to lotus? I will arrange it if someone can tell me where to ftp it or download it via http. :-) I couldn't find it through AOL's web pages, so I presume it's a service for AOL customers only. Regards, Nic. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 02:37:42 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:37:31 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:28:02 -0500 Received: from slip.net ([204.160.88.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:27:12 -0500 Received: from [204.160.88.170] by slip.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0u55tG-000MSRC; Thu, 4 Apr 96 23:25 PST Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:25:00 -0500 X-Sender: naherzin@pop.slip.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: naherzin@slip.net (neil herzinger) Subject: Re: sgroup Advertising?! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 11:20 PM 4/4/96, John M. Sellens wrote: >Well, as the maintainer of the mailing list and the archive, perhaps >I should say something. >My inclination is that small announcements would be okay i.e. something >along the lines of "we sell samples, including some cool ones like >australian rules football samples -- for more information, call, write, >visit ...". No more than once a month, short and to the point. > >Any objections from anyone? I agree with this. As former maintainer of the list, my opinion means nothing :-), but seriously: Informing s-users of sample libraries is useful, but I don't want to run into automatic postings every week listing the same information. . . . . . . . .....n e i l...h e r z i n g e r...a n i m a t o r...x a o s...i n c..... . . . . . . . - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 04:12:11 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-1>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 04:12:03 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id EAA32169 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 04:11:49 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 03:55:35 -0500 Received: from gate.ti.com ([192.94.94.33]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 03:54:45 -0500 Received: from dlep1.itg.ti.com ([128.247.123.43]) by gate.ti.com (8.6.13/ac3i.dseg.ti.com) with ESMTP id CAA28411 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:54:34 -0600 Received: from cnf0918255 ([134.183.75.241]) by dlep1.itg.ti.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27917 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 02:54:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 03:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199604050854.CAA27917@dlep1.itg.ti.com> X-Sender: x0soares@dlep1.itg.ti.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Daniel SOARES Subject: sgroup Memory expansion card for S-750. Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi everybody, This is my first posting to this group and I'm impatient to receive my monthly posting. I've got an Roland S-750 and I want to upgrade it in memory. I have seen a reseller and he told me that the Roland S-750 production was over, and it was impossible to find a memory expansion card. So help me to find this memory expansion card, Please, Dan. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 08:40:31 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 08:40:28 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 08:29:35 -0500 Received: from gw2.att.com ([192.20.239.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 08:28:59 -0500 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA08663; Fri, 5 Apr 96 08:26:03 EST From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA08304; Fri, 5 Apr 96 08:28:26 EST Received: from acropolis by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA04048; Fri, 5 Apr 96 08:28:34 EST Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA06688; Fri, 5 Apr 96 08:28:33 EST Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 08:28:33 -0500 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9604051328.AA06688@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup Advertising?! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R As a long-time sgroup member and member of too many lists, I would appreciate seeing new product announcements if they were very brief and to the point. A line or two in your signature isn't too offensive, either, just to provide contact information. Any more than this becomes too commercial for my tastes. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com Company name goes here - What you generally offer goes here. Example: Fox's Den Recording Studio - Analog/Digital/MIDI Demo studio - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 11:14:21 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-1>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:14:13 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id LAA14010 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:14:05 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:00:58 -0500 Received: from alaska.magpage.com ([204.179.92.50]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:59:54 -0500 Received: by alaska.magpage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA05431; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:59:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:59:07 -0500 From: Jeffrey Zarge X-Sender: borg@alaska To: "John M. Sellens" cc: MatteBlack@aol.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Advertising?! In-Reply-To: <96Apr4.232110est.88177-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On Thu, 4 Apr 1996, John M. Sellens wrote: > My inclination is that small announcements would be okay i.e. something > along the lines of "we sell samples, including some cool ones like >australian rules football samples -- for more information, call, write, >visit ...". No more than once a month, short and to the point. > Anyobjections from anyone? I think anyone that has samples/sounds/hardware to sell should be allowed to post whatever they want to us. Once or twice a month is fine. But as for the content, that should be left up to the person posting the msg. If they want to put their entire catalog on, fine let them. If you don't want to read it, don't... But some people might want to. And its fine if you just say "Hey, I sell samples/hardware/etc for these Roland samplers. Call, write, visit our web site blah blah blah..." I am an advocate of FREE SPEECH on the Internet. If companies want to advertise in the sgroup list, let them.. If you don't like it, then don't read it. Its hard for some people to find good sounds. For some, this is their only way to finding them. So let them find them! There's my thoughts... Jeff Gangster Pump - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 12:07:55 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 12:07:51 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:56:12 -0500 Received: from services ([168.166.0.67]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 11:55:21 -0500 Received: from ofagen.state.mo.us by services (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA15793; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:57:53 -0600 Message-Id: <199604051657.KAA15793@services> Comments: Authenticated sender is Illegal-Object: Syntax error in From: address found on lotus.uwaterloo.ca: From: "Otto Fajen" ^-illegal end of route address, missing end of mailbox From: To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 05:55:48 -0500 Subject: sgroup looking for outrigger cd Reply-to: ofajen@services.state.mo.us Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R i'm hoping want to buy offers are ok on this list, too, along with the "want to sells". this is probably a real long shot, but here goes: i'd like to buy the cd of the s-series sample library from outrigger. i have some of their disks, which i like. this is a company that did many samples back when, but evidently no longer exists. if anyone has this cd and is no longer using it, i would offer a decent price for it ...at least the second time around, right steve? ;-) thanks, otto - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 13:24:49 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:24:46 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:12:20 -0500 Received: from aurora.cwu.edu ([198.104.65.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:11:31 -0500 Received: from crater.cwu.edu (SYSTEM@crater.cwu.edu) by AURORA.CWU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #11216) id <01I36G5ZI3W0001Q9A@AURORA.CWU.EDU> for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Fri, 05 Apr 1996 10:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.104.111.39] ("port 1105"@lewis.lib.cwu.edu) by cluster.cwu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #11216) id <01I36G5V84J48ZEXQN@cluster.cwu.edu> for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Fri, 05 Apr 1996 10:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:14:24 -0500 From: lewisg@cwu.edu (Gary Lewis) Subject: sgroup Advertising on Sgroup X-Sender: lewisg@clustera.cwu.edu To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01I36G5VMBPU8ZEXQN@cluster.cwu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Gang, Here is my opinion. I don't mind modest and occasional brief advertising. The statements should be limited and only promoting products related to Roland samplers. No advertisement for Psychic Friends Network please! ----------------------------------------- I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it! ----------------------------------------- Gary ............................................................................. Dr. Gary A. Lewis, Dean Library and Media Services Central Washington University LEWISG@CWU.EDU / 509-963-1901, FAX 509-963-3684 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 13:55:50 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:55:41 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id NAA17909 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:55:35 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:44:17 -0500 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:43:28 -0500 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA057908880; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 18:28:00 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199604051828.AA057908880@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Fri, 5 Apr 96 18:27:59 UTC 0000 ( from inet# ; Fri, 5 Apr 96 18:26:46 UTC 0000) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 13:17:00 -0500 To: jmsellen@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca Cc: matteblack@aol.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 5781944 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 399366 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: sgroup Advertising?! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply: Item #4612300 from JMSELLEN@WATDRAGON.UWATERLOO.CA@INET# John - Sounds good to me, and then if we want we can E-mail for more info. - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 5 20:28:13 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:28:02 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:16:39 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:16:03 -0500 Received: from dove.mtx.net.au (root@dove.mtx.net.au [203.15.24.1]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id UAA24031 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:15:46 -0500 Received: from [198.186.216.200] (dialup4.power.net [198.186.216.200]) by dove.mtx.net.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA00235; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:40:12 +0930 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:10:12 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Jeffrey Zarge From: mylesw@dove.mtx.net.au (Myles Wakeham) Subject: Re: sgroup Advertising?! Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I am an advocate of FREE SPEECH on the Internet. If companies want to >advertise in the sgroup list, let them.. If you don't like it, then don't >read it. Its hard for some people to find good sounds. For some, this is >their only way to finding them. So let them find them! I agree. Normally I would be turned off by advertising, but its hard to find the latest samples that are available, or for that matter any peripherals or software that can make using my S760 more productive. I would gladly read advertisements because its hard to find what's out there. Myles - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 6 01:12:02 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 01:11:55 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 00:58:20 -0500 Received: from newton.eigen.net ([206.103.86.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 00:57:30 -0500 Received: from port_4.eigen.net (port_4.eigen.net [206.103.86.214]) by newton.eigen.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA03926 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 00:14:19 -0600 Received: by port_4.eigen.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BB234B.58A8D6C0@port_4.eigen.net>; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 23:55:19 -0600 Message-ID: <01BB234B.58A8D6C0@port_4.eigen.net> From: Roy Tate To: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: RE: sgroup Advertising?! Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 00:55:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I subscribed to this group to learn more about using my S-750. Any = compatible software or hardware is of interest to me. If a group is = developing S-700 series disks, they are bound to be learning neat stuff. So any "advertising" should = include some piece of useful information, otherwise it is inappropriate. If no = useful information is included, it is a blattant misuse, and grounds for my leaving the group. Useful content: I had a hair-brained idea. Instead of using SDS, = perhaps someone could write data directly to 1.44K or 720K disks. Someone has already = written a "ripper" that takes files off of a S-700 series disk, wouldn't it be = great to be able to write to them as well? Doesn't the Roland series process the file a = bit, enhancing the highs during playback or something? Perhaps a subtle EQ adjustment = would make a raw file suitable for writing to a S-700 disk. I have considered = writing something like this, but I really don't have the time ... Roy Tate roytate@eigen.net - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 6 01:45:28 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 01:45:22 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 01:35:33 -0500 Received: from desiree.teleport.com ([192.108.254.21]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 01:34:43 -0500 Received: from [206.163.122.140] (ip-pdx11-12.teleport.com [206.163.122.140]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11462 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 1996 22:34:08 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: arcana@mail.teleport.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 01:34:27 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Violet Arcana Subject: sgroup New Roland Sampler Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anybody know if Roland is planning to release a new sampler any time soon? ___________________________________________________________________________ dreamy, ethereal, moody, ambient soundscapes for the surreal music listener http://www.teleport.com/~arcana join the Violet Arcana email list (email:arcana@teleport.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 6 11:11:01 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 11:10:53 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:54:27 -0500 Received: from services ([168.166.0.67]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:53:20 -0500 Received: from services by services (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA13239; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 09:55:29 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 10:55:27 -0500 From: Lee Vardell X-Sender: lvardell@services To: Roy Tate cc: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: sgroup advertising idea In-Reply-To: <01BB234B.58A8D6C0@port_4.eigen.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Roy, perhaps an intermediate position would be to allow announcement of products, then allow individual subscribers to email the manufacturer requesting more info. the manufacturer could actually compile a multiple cc list of sgroup members interested, and then take the product details off list into the private email domain... this is my third day with my s-550, (a newbie!!!), and while i have my hands full learning the ins and outs, would like to hear of products. more later, be sure of that. let's see....hit play.....left mouse click on.....er....right click?....double left? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From pn.itnet.it!fior003 Sat Apr 6 17:16:20 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 17:16:11 -0500 Received: from dns.it.net (dns.IT.net [151.1.1.1]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id RAA06797 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 1996 17:14:55 -0500 Received: from dns.it.net.dns.it.net (fior003.pn.ITnet.it [151.2.48.108]) by dns.it.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA02914 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:13:08 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4b11.32.19960316221126.0067a1c4@relay1.it.net> X-Sender: fior003@relay1.it.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b11 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:11:26 -0500 To: jmsellens@watdragon.UWaterloo.ca From: "Dott. Giuseppe Fiorentino" Subject: info s760 roland Status: R Hello, i'm from italy and i got two roland sampler s770-s760!! I know a very nice trick on the s770...and i would like to know if it functions also on the s760. This trick allow you to acces to some special features like special loop, special smoothing and also backup/recover to/from dat!! Simply after boot up, name a performance "Dragon" with D capitol letter, then go to monitor, then module, then, bring the mouse down in the right corner (if you have a color monitor you'll see the cursor of the mouse more blu)and click with the right button...finally go to index and after clicking you'll see a very nice window.....enjoy it!!! what i ask is:"is there also something like this in the S760?", if yes please let me know it. If you are not able to acces to this trick well ,next time,after your replay i'll be more clear.... Really really really thanks... Dott. Giuseppe Fiorentino Via Margherita di Savoia, 1 90149 Palermo Tel. +39 +91 451635 Fax. +39 +91 451635 From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Apr 7 08:45:20 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 08:45:08 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 08:31:19 -0400 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 08:29:41 -0400 Received: by nic.funet.fi id <2927-28966>; Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:29:21 +0300 From: Juhana K Kouhia To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S770 soundfile converter/new version available Message-Id: <96Apr7.152921+0300_eet_dst.2927-28966+84@nic.funet.fi> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 08:29:19 -0400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi. I'm not on this sgroup mailing list. I have put a new version of my simple S770 soundfile converter to ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/audio/instruments/devel/s770/. It is available as C code. If you port it to msdos or such, then please let me have the code for putting it available for other users. The converter produces raw 16 bit audiofiles for each sample. It can handle multidisk sounds. New in this version is that one sample is put to three or four files: attack part (e.g. "1-a"), loop part(s) (e.g. "1-b" and "1-bb") and release part (e.g. "1-c"). If the loop is forward-backward looping, then two files are put out: one for forward direction (e.g. "1-b") and one for backward direction (e.g. "1-bb"). You may get an older version type output by unix command cat 1-a 1-b 1-c > 1 By breaking the sample in parts, I feel it is easier to operate with loop points. There is no need for header informing about loop points. Juhana Kouhia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 8 05:55:11 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:54:55 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id FAA02872 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:54:46 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:41:43 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 05:40:50 -0400 Received: from (dialup24.wr.com.au) by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA04967; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:39:54 +1000 Message-Id: <9604080939.AA04967@wr.com.au> Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 19:42:00 -0400 From: blurk@wr.com.au (Bernie Maier) Reply-To: blurk@wr.com.au (Bernie Maier) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: sgroup S-760 vs PC mastering the SCSI bus Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I recall that some people have connected their S-760s and their PCs along with other SCSI peripherals on one SCSI bus. I would like to do the same (as I am sick of continually switching cables on my Zip drive between the PC and the S-760). Are there any possible problems of which I should be aware? I thought the S-760 and the PC would both attempt to be the master of the SCSI bus, which would be *bad*. Or is it OK as long as both masters don't try to access the same device? (Note that in this set up, I don't want the S-760 to be a slave device to the PC - I still want it to do its own disk I/O.) Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Let me out!!!" - Various artistes, collected by the Feral Carrot - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 8 16:58:13 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:58:03 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:45:03 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com ([152.163.172.66]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:44:13 -0400 Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA28778 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:43:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:43:32 -0400 From: MatteBlack@aol.com Message-ID: <960408164331_371483935@mail02.mail.aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Patchman Music Elite Series (Big) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R For everyone who's been asking, here's the info on the Patchman Music Elite Series sample disks for the S-550, S-330, and W-30. Please feel free to contact us for more information. MatteBlack@aol.com Patchman Music -------- * R O L A N D S - 5 5 0 , S - 3 3 0 , W - 3 0 The Elite Seriesx is the ultimate sample library for the Roland S-550, S-330, or W-30. It consists of over 80 disks fully programmed and loaded with the some of the best sounds in the world. ============================ Features ============================ *Many disks utilize a technique we call HSS to capture the fine details, dynamic range, and fidelity of any sound source. HSS essentially gives you the sonic quality of a 60k sampling rate sampler! *All disks include S-550 system 1.13. *All disks are fully optimized & looped using the latest digital sound processing software. There are no clicks, pops, or obnoxious loops in the Elite Series. *All patches are "Patch Load" clean! This feature is invaluable if you are using the CD ROM or Hard Disk operating systems and use the "Load Patch" command. All Elite Series patches will load only the tones assigned to the patch. No RAM-wasting, unused tones will be loaded and all unused layers are turned off so you won't waste polyphony. *Velocity Switch, Velocity Mix, Unison, or Crossfade Mix patches are usually indicated in the patch name. *Drum disks follow the General MIDI drum note assignment. You can try any drum kit in the series with your sequence without ever having to remap drum notes! *All Elite Series disks make use of the Roland digital filters. These are not old S-50 disks pawned off as S-550 disks. *Elite Series disks can also be used with the S-50, S-770, S-750, and compatible samplers by using a conversion utility available from Roland. Contact Roland for more info. We are very proud of the Elite Series and we think you will be very impressed with what it can bring to your music. ============================ The Elite Series For Roland Samplers ============================ Volume 1 Proteus Performance Set-up #1 -Compiled from other Proteus disks. Crammed with some of the best Proteus sounds in the series. Drum kit 1, stereo bass, Moog bass, chorused Rhodes, bari sax, Phantasia, stereo wine glasses, marimba. Great variety. Volume 2 Proteus Drums -Features all of the classic Proteus drums. Very punchy! A must have. Volume 3 Proteus Choir, Dune, Wine Glasses -Beautiful sounds. Including breathtaking stereo patches. Volume 4 Proteus/EPS Horns+ -Bari sax, Miles trumpet, trombone, marimba, jazz flutes. We crammed a lot onto this disk! Volume 5 Proteus Acoustic Piano -An excellent acoustic piano created on the original Proteus. Volume 6 Bowed Bass -A solo bowed bass created on the Synclavier. Check out the stereo patch! 5 stars. Volume 7 English Horn -A gorgeous solo English horn with vibrato created on the Synclavier. Can't be beat. 5 stars. Volume 8 Proteus -"Strat" guitar, chorused electric piano. Also includes a stereo version. Volume 9 Proteus -"B-3" Organ, 12 string acoustic guitar, Phantasia. Classic EMU sounds. Volume 10 Proteus Guitars -Acoustic guitar, muted electric guitar, and guitar harmonics. Great guitar disk. Volume 11 Proteus/SY77 Basses -Killer basses created on the Proteus and SY77. Volume 12 Staccato Celli -Staccato cello section created on the Synclavier. Excellent "rosin-y" string sections. 5 stars. Volume 13 Power Drums -Layered/effected high powered kicks, snares, toms, and hi hat. Bright and punchy! Volume 14 LinnDrum -The original classic sounds have made countless hit recordings. ***Volume 15 Stereo Grand Piano (2 disk set. Counts as 2 disks). For the S-550 only. This is the finest piano available for the S-550. Very expressive true stereo grand piano. Bright, clean. 5 stars. Volume 16 Mono Grand Piano (one disk) for S-330, S-50, and W-30. Created from Volume 15. Also great for S-550 owners who want to conserve memory. 5 stars. Volume 17 EIII Tenor Sax -A bright tenor sax created on the EIII. Works great for rock. Volume 18 6 String Ovation Guitar -Very realistic; it doesn't sound like a bad harpsichord. Separate samples for open and closed strings played both soft and hard. Very popular. 5 stars. Volume 19 Best Drums -A full kit of some of the best drums in the series. Alesis, Linn, Yamaha, Roland, and others. This disk has been heard worldwide and is a serious workhorse. Utilizes HSS for great high end. 5 stars. Volume 20 MiniMoog Basses and Leads -We captured the true sound of the Moog! Includes fat basses, great true analog leads, and a pitched noise sample that only a Moog could give. Extremely usable sounds. 5 stars. ***Volume 21 Alesis HR-16 Drums (2 disk set. Counts as 2 disks) -Killer drums created on the popular HR-16. The HSS process was used to capture the brilliant, 16-bit high frequencies. 5 stars. Volume 22 Spanish Classical Guitar -An authentic Spanish classical guitar with soft and hard samples for full expression! ***Volume 23 Yamaha RX5/EPS Drums (2 disk set. Counts as 2 disks) -Punchy drums created on the RX5 and EPS. Includes world music-style melodic sets. Volume 24 B-3 Organ -An excellent B-3 organ and Leslie organ. The best B-3 we've heard. Includes great stereo patches. Includes a bonus small harpsichord. Very popular. Volume 25 EMAX/TX802 Guitars -12 string guitar and classic FM TX802 guitars. Volume 26 Carvin Electric Bass -Another workhorse heard worldwide. Extremely usable basses. Various types. Solid recording basses. A very popular disk. 5 stars. Volume 27 Choirs #1 -Clean, clear, and bright choirs created on the EIII and EPS. Great loops. Excellent! Volume 28 Straight Brass -Bright, punchy unison brass section. Great for funky horn lines, pop music. Includes a stereo patch. Volume 29 Long Falloff Brass Section -Like Volume 28 but with a long downward glissando. Includes a bonus solo flugelhorn. Stereo set-ups. Very dramatic! Volume 30 French Horn Section -Gorgeous unison French horn section for orchestral scores. Includes a great stereo patch. Volume 31 Short Falloff Brass Section -Like Volume 28 but with a short downward glissando. Includes stacatto and sustained pop horn section. Great for pop and funk music! Volume 32 Oboe & Flute -Very clean and realistic solo wind instruments. Some of the finest samples available. 5 stars. Volume 33 Jazz Tenor Sax and English Horn Tenor sax with natural vibrato and airy English horn. Both instruments include killer stereo set-ups. Volume 34 Airy Tenor Sax -Very sexy and airy tenor sax with natural vibrato. Includes a stereo set-up. Nice low range. Great for ballads. Volume 35 Dan's Synth -A huge, fat analog layered analog synth sound. Includes a stereo patch. Volume 36 MiniMoog Percussion -Believe it or not these are incredible percussion sounds from the MiniMoog! Heavily processed and highly usable. Volume 37 Proteus Orchestral Strings -Gorgeous orchestral strings created on the original Proteus. Great loops. A very popular disk. HSS process captures the 16-bit fidelity. 5 stars. Volume 38 Proteus Breathy Flute -A beautiful. uniquely "synthy" breathy flute created on the Proteus. Volume 39 Proteus -Guitar Heaven, Airy Bells, New Baliphones. Great for new age and world music. Superb in stereo. Volume 40 Layers #1 -Various professional synths tastefully layered. A nice variety. Great stereo sounds! Very popular. Volume 41 Strat-o-varia -Various electric guitar samples including "Queen" leads and distortions, Reggae chucks a la "Roxanne", "Strat basses", and more. Volume 42 BellTonish -Exotic, Indian-type percussive world music sounds. Volume 43 Diet Cola Can + -What? Wait till you hear it in stereo! Very Peter Gabriel-ish. Lots of great world music sounds. Very popular. Volume 44 TX802 #1 -World class 16-bit FM sounds. Beautiful D-50 style stereo pads, killer TX basses, and organs. THE finest TX patches. Volume 45 Proteus 12-string Guitar -Very beautiful and useful guitar sounds. Volume 46 Pizzicato Acoustic Bass -Created on the Synclavier. Great for jazz. Very real. THE ultimate pizzicato bass! 5 stars. Volume 47 Harp Arpeggios -2 incredible acoustic harp arpeggios created on the Synclavier. Includes breathtaking stereo versions. An excellent touch of spice to add to your music. Volume 48 Matrix 1000 #1 -The finest classic Oberheim sounds in all their analog glory! This is a very popular choice. Volume 49 Matrix 1000 #2 -More of the finest analog Oberheim samples you've heard! Essential! Volume 50 TX802 #2 -16-bit FM sounds. Chosen from over 20,000 patches! Basses, layered pads, percussion, and super stereos. Volume 51 Jazz Snares! -32 tasty, jazz snares including brush hits, light taps, and drop rolls. Hard to find, useful samples. Volume 52 SY77 #1 Drums -Drums from the powerful SY77 including a great snare roll and stereo sleigh bells. Volume 53 Casio CZ #1 -Classic CZ basses, piano, bells, and plucked instruments. Volume 54 Casio CZ #2 -More classic Casio CZ sounds including punchy synth basses. Volume 55 Kawai K-3 #1 -Additive synthesis sounds. Includes some great, fat basses! Volume 56 SY77 #2 -Beautiful, D50-style stereo etherial pads plus blowpipe. Very beautiful and usable. Includes the famous breathy "Itopia" patch. ***Volume 57 SY77 Saxes and Woodwinds (2 disk set. Counts as 2 disks) -Saxes and woodwinds created on the SY77. Very realistic and expressive. Highly recommended. 5 star wind instrument disk. Volume 58 Alesis SR-16 Kicks and Snares -Clean and punchy drums created on the SR-16. Volume 59 Alesis SR-16 Snares and Hi-hats -Bright and punchy snares and hi-hats created on the famous SR-16. Volume 60 Alesis SR-16 Cymbals and Toms -All are brilliant and punchy! Highly usable. Volume 61 Alesis SR-16 Toms/EFX/LP -Very clean toms, effects, and Latin percussion created on the SR-16. Volume 62 Alesis SR-16 Kits -The very best SR-16 sounds compiled from volumes 58, 59, 60, & 61. Exquisite, killer drum kits! Includes GM drum kits. 5 stars. Volume 63 Ultimate Jazz Kit -The finest jazz drums crammed onto one disk. Includes great Latin percussion instruments. Compiled from other disks. Very authentic. Features HSS. Volume 64 Roland R-8M Kicks/Snares/Toms -Great sounds from this extremely popular drum synth. Highest quality! Volume 65 Roland R-8M Cymbals -Clean, bright and expressive cymbals. Very well done. Volume 66 Roland R-8M Latin Percussion Great R-8M Latin percussion instruments. Features HSSx for extra clean & brilliant samples. Volume 67 Roland R-8M Drum Kits -Compiled from our other R-8M disks, these kits were carefully set-up to work together. Many samples utilize HSS for extremely punchy, clean, and clear samples! 5 stars. Volume 68 Hal Drums -The grittiest drum hits from the master's classic 60's recordings. Great for hip-hop, house, and rap. Very unique! Volume 69 Horns -Realistic solo flugelhorn and trombone set-ups created on the Synclavier. Very well done. Volume 70 Basses -Outstanding pick, pluck, hammer, and mute electric basses created on the Synclavier. Very usable. Volume 71 JV-80 Drum Kits -All of the drum kit sounds from the JV-80. Features HSS for the ultimate fidelity. Highest quality. Complements Volume 72. 5 stars. Volume 72 JV-80 Latin Percussion -All the Latin percussion plus log drums, vibes, and steel drums. Features HSS. Perfect complement to Volume 71. 5 stars. Volume 73 JV-80 Horns -Solo trumpet, harmon muted trumpet, and trombone. Great for jazz or orchestral use. Features HSS for superb fidelity and signal to noise ratio. Volume 74 JV-80 Slap/Pick Bass -The punchiest, brightest, cleanest slap/pop bass ever! Highly recommended! 5 stars. Volume 75 Rap/Hip Hop Drum Kits -You asked for it, so here it is. A collection of the grittiest, groovin'est drum samples for those dance hits! 5 stars. Volume 76 Moans and Groans -SeXXXy sighs to heat up those dance tracks. Steamy "oohs" and "aahs" is so hot they should be illegal! Volume 77 K3 Basses -Super punchy basses created on the Kawai K3 additive synthesizer. ---------------------------------- Volumes preceded by astrisks (***) are double disk sets intended for the S-550. Count these volumes as two disks. ---------------------------------- ==== Q U A N T I T Y D I S C O U N T S ! ==== 1 disk .......... $14.95 2-4 disks ..... $12 per disk 5-9 disks ..... $11 per disk 10-19 disks.. $10 per disk 20-31 disks.. $ 8 per disk >31 disks... You may as well order the entire Elite Seriesx library! See below for shipping charges. The entire 77-volume, 81 disk Elite Seriesx library is now only $250 (free shipping within U.S.)! That's about $3 per disk and a savings of $210 off the regular price! Formats: S-550/S-330/W-30 floppy disk. ============================ Shipping Charges ============================ To calculate shipping charges for orders shipped within the U.S. please use the following chart. If your order totals: $0 - $49.99 :add $2 for U.S. shipping $50 - $99.99 :add $3 for U.S. shipping $100 - $149.99 :add $4 for U.S. shipping $150 - $200 :add $5 for U.S. shipping Over $200 :FREE shipping within U.S. All orders are shipped via first class U.S. mail. Other options may be available. Call for details. ============================ Foreign Orders ============================ Foreign orders add $10 to the above shipping charges and use an international money order payable through a U.S. bank. (Make sure there is an address of a U.S. bank on the money order.) ============================ How To Order ============================ In order to provide the lowest possible price, PATCHMAN MUSIC products are only available direct. To order, send a check or money order (payable in U.S. funds through a U.S. bank to "PATCHMAN MUSIC") to: PATCHMAN MUSIC 2043 Mars Ave. Lakewood, OH 44107 U.S.A. Please specify Instrument, Volume, & Format when ordering. ============================ How To Contact Us ============================ PATCHMAN MUSIC can be reached by: *Mail: Patchman Music 2043 Mars Avenue Lakewood, OH 44107 U.S.A. *Phone: 216-221-8887 *Email: MatteBlack@aol.com ============================ Lifetime Guarantee ============================ Because we offer software products we cannot provide refunds. All software is guaranteed to be free from defects for the life of the software. If you ever encounter a defect simply return the defective software to us for a free replacement. This guarantee is valid only within the United States. Foreign orders must include $10 to cover the cost of shipping and handling. ---- end of transmission - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 01:22:22 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:22:14 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:09:29 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:08:31 -0400 Received: from [199.26.193.17] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id BAA12339; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:08:24 -0400 X-Sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:08:32 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: jeremy@sampleheads.com (Jeremy Roberts) Subject: Re: sgroup hi! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >As the owner of multiple S-760's, and >a sound developer, how do you get your samples into the beast? I have >been trying to find information about enabling SCSI transfer to my S-760 >from PC to no avail. >Blair Blair, I'm humbled to say that I get my samples into the machine the way most others do - I buy CD-ROMs... We hire programmers to make our Roland versions, because I'm a mac head and unable to spend the time to do the ROM ports... :-) JR - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 01:37:48 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:37:34 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <11>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:22:07 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:08:51 -0400 Received: from [199.26.193.17] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id BAA12349; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:08:28 -0400 X-Sender: ir001586@pop3.interramp.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:08:36 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: jeremy@sampleheads.com (Jeremy Roberts) Subject: RE: sgroup Advertising?! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R perhaps someone >could write data directly to 1.44K or 720K disks Why? With quality samples eating MEGABYTES at a time... floppies are essentially dead for sample distribution - they are effective for operating systems, sometimes. Jeremy Roberts SAMPLEHEADS - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 01:52:55 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:52:51 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id BAA11748 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:52:47 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:38:39 -0400 Received: from acs3.bu.edu ([128.197.153.30]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:37:21 -0400 Received: by acs3.bu.edu (8.6.13/BU_SmartClient-1.0) id BAA125418; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:33:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 01:33:54 -0400 From: jawbox@acs.bu.edu Message-Id: <199604090533.BAA125418@acs3.bu.edu> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup s-330 trigger Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Is there a drum machine or something other than a keyboard that can trigger samples on an s-330. i have an HR-16 but it doesn't seem to be working. I don't want to keep using a keyboard controller because i like to travel and it would be cool to have something small to trigger my sounds. peace -PMA - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 03:43:42 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 03:43:36 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 03:32:01 -0400 Received: from gcsin1.gecm.com ([194.128.74.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 03:31:10 -0400 Received: from gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin1.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-0121PM) id AA28837; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:30:50 +0100 Received: from gcschm.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1139AM) id AA32244; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 08:30:49 +0100 Disclose-Recipients: prohibited Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 04:30:40 -0400 From: Richard Hanson GMAv +44 1634 844400 x4652 Subject: Re: sgroup Advertising?! In-Reply-To: <96Apr4.232110est.88177-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> To: sgroup Message-Id: <8340300809041996/A09529/CSD06V/11A44A1E2600*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Importance: low Priority: normal Ua-Content-Id: 11A44A1E2600 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;8340300809041996/A09529/CSD06V] Hop-Count: 2 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Personally, I have no objections to short adverts - I wasn't aware of any commerical S-330 libraries until the advert appeared on the mailing list last week. Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ R. P. Hanson, Software Engineer and part time musician GEC Marconi Avionics Limited, Airport Works, Rochester, Kent, ENGLAND ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.lookup.com/Homepages/78185/home.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 10:14:36 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:14:28 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id KAA29415 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 10:14:25 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:57:44 -0400 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.23]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:56:55 -0400 Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA17790 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:56:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 09:56:45 -0400 From: MatteBlack@aol.com Message-ID: <960409095644_267454186@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Floppy Disks are Dead?! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R <> I would disagree. Quality samples don't have to "eat MEGABYTES at a time" if they are programmed properly. Our samples have always been available on floppy and are doing quite well thank you. The big advantage of buying sounds on floppy is the end user being able to save their own edits. If the user buys a sample CD ROM they still end up having to save even the slightest edit to floppy or hard drive. At which point the CD ROM itself might as well be used for a hockey puck. Matt Patchman Music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 11:43:23 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:43:09 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:32:35 -0400 Received: from dub-img-1.compuserve.com ([198.4.9.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:31:42 -0400 Received: by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id LAA11968; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:31:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 11:01:49 -0400 From: dennis barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> Illegal-Object: Syntax error in To: address found on lotus.uwaterloo.ca: To: BlindCopyReceiver:;@compuserve.com ^-missing end of address To: Subject: sgroup Patchman Music El Message-ID: <960409150148_70531.2124_FHH35-2@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >*Many disks utilize a technique we call HSS to capture the fine details, >dynamic range, and fidelity of any sound source. HSS essentially gives you >the sonic quality of a 60k sampling rate sampler! > What is HSS? Coming from a technical backround, I don't see how your claims can be possible. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton <70531.2124@compuserve.com> ) Skylab2000 : Paperboy2000 : Mushroom Nation ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/brainforest - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 12:41:01 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:40:51 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:28:14 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:26:42 -0400 Received: from benj4ang.singnet.com.sg (ts900-4601.singnet.com.sg [165.21.155.21]) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA18533; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 00:26:04 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:26:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199604091626.AAA18533@merlion.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jawbox@acs.bu.edu, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: bangg@singnet.com.sg (Benjamin Ang) Subject: Re: sgroup s-330 trigger Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R any drum machine with MIDI should work so long as it's transmitting on the right channels i.e. channel that matches the channel set on your S330. i have also used Yamaha drum pads - the type sold for kids' home use. lots of fun. At 01:33 AM 4/9/96 -0400, jawbox@acs.bu.edu wrote: > >Is there a drum machine or something other than a >keyboard that can trigger samples on an s-330. >i have an HR-16 but it doesn't seem to be working. >I don't want to keep using a keyboard controller because >i like to travel and it would be cool to have something small >to trigger my sounds. >peace >-PMA > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B E N J A M I N A N G location: Singapore new e-mail address: bangg@singnet.com.sg EML homepage address: http://www.singnet.com.sg/~bangg/eml.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 12:52:15 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:52:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <11>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:40:22 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:26:47 -0400 Received: from benj4ang.singnet.com.sg (ts900-4601.singnet.com.sg [165.21.155.21]) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA07963; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 00:26:07 +0800 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:26:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199604091626.AAA07963@merlion.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MatteBlack@aol.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: bangg@singnet.com.sg (Benjamin Ang) Subject: Re: sgroup Floppy Disks are Dead?! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R you mean *commercial* sample distribution. even then, there are lots of really good small samples. takes more skill, that's all :) At 09:56 AM 4/9/96 -0400, MatteBlack@aol.com wrote: ><dead for sample distribution>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B E N J A M I N A N G location: Singapore new e-mail address: bangg@singnet.com.sg EML homepage address: http://www.singnet.com.sg/~bangg/eml.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 13:56:39 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:56:29 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id NAA30771 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:56:18 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:46:51 -0400 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:45:55 -0400 Received: by nic.funet.fi id <1800-20385>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 20:45:24 +0300 From: Juhana K Kouhia To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S550 sample-extracter available Message-Id: <96Apr9.204524+0300_eet_dst.1800-20385+92@nic.funet.fi> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 13:45:24 -0400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi. I'm still not in the mailing list. Please e-mail me copy of the replies. I fixed slightly the S770 sample-extracter (announced a couple of days ago) to make filenames 01, 02, etc. instead of 1, 2, etc. Now all Kurzweil, S550 and S770 sample-extracters of mine produces the same filenames. All are available from ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/audio/ instruments/devel/. Previously I have announced raw16.c which is 16 bit version of the raw8.c available from Sgroup archives and written by someone else. My new raw16.c still produces 16 bit data but it now extract each sample to its own files: attack and loop parts. It also prints information like samplerate and loopmode for each sample. I found bugs from samprint.c (distributed together with raw8.c): 1. It informs loopmodes incorrectly; in code, replace the string "loopMode&0x2" with "loopMode&0x3". 2. In printing deviceId, remove "(%s)" string. I were able to print info on S550 samples because I had the file structure of S550 files. If someone could provide me file structure info on S770 files, then I could make my S770 extracter a bit better. Please scan as images, OCR or send me paper copies (for free, please). Juhana Kouhia PS. I need also Ensoniq EPS GKH format specifications. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 9 23:13:10 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 23:12:53 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 23:00:20 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:59:31 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id TAA13441; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 22:59:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199604100259.TAA13441@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R While we are on the subject of sounds for sale on the Sgroup, is it just me or do other people find the very existence of drumloops insulting? If one can program, then why would one need to buy a rhythm all predone for them? I want to see more sample disks for sale that are made of single samples of instruments, not phrases. Perhaps I'm picky because I previously played the drums. I've come real close to buying several sample CDROMs only to turn away after finding out that a significant fraction was devoted to loop rhythm phrases. Yuck! By the way, I support sound advertising on the sgroup, the once a month frequency for each company seems pretty reasonable. Its like adds in your favorite technical magazine, they are informative and relevant. Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 03:18:38 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 03:18:31 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 03:03:06 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 03:02:04 -0400 Received: from [38.13.221.98] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id DAA14954; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 03:01:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199604100701.DAA14954@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Floppy Disks are Dead?! Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 19:04:01 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "sgroup" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >you mean *commercial* sample distribution. >even then, there are lots of really good small samples. takes more skill, >that's all :) Well, no.... 16 bit stereo files are huge. The best samples are long. A variety of long samples make for more realism. Stop me when you think I'm stating fiction.... Of course, if you can't tell the difference between a 32 meg drum set from the Peter Erskine library and a 1 meg kit from an 8 year old 770 archive, then we don't have much to talk about. Short cymbals do not sound NEARLY as good as long ones. The air around a sample has everything to do with its realism. Not letting natural room decay happen is exatly why older libraries, (when larger ram samplers did NOT exists) just do not sound as good as the newer ones. Expert programming has nothing to do with it. The expert programmers now use the hardware available to make even better sounding patches (and many of these so-called expert programmers are the same guys from the old days!) 1 hit snare samples do not sound NEARLY as realistic or emotional as an 18 sample velocity crossed patch with left and right hits as brilliantly programmed by Gelen Darcey for the Erskine/ROLAND rom. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 05:28:38 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 05:28:26 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 05:17:29 -0400 Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net ([158.152.1.77]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 05:16:40 -0400 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ac02395; 10 Apr 96 10:16 +0100 Received: from argonaut.demon.co.uk ([158.152.11.252]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa26139; 10 Apr 96 10:15 +0100 Received: from bagpuss.argonaut.com by argonaut.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0u6uxt-0003jlC; Wed, 10 Apr 96 09:09 BST Received: from BAGPUSS/MAILQ by bagpuss.argonaut.com (Mercury 1.21); 10 Apr 96 09:11:48 +0 Received: from MAILQ by BAGPUSS (Mercury 1.21); 10 Apr 96 09:11:31 +0 From: Justin Scharvona Organization: Argonaut Software Ltd To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 05:11:22 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <8A5E69725F@bagpuss.argonaut.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R * * From: Chris Kirkham * * Subject: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? * * While we are on the subject of sounds for sale on the Sgroup, is it just me * * or do other people find the very existence of drumloops insulting? If one * * can program, then why would one need to buy a rhythm all predone for them? I use drumloops and one shot drum sounds to make garage & house music. There is no substitute for a loop played by a real drummer when you need to make a track groove. If you are talking about sampled drum-machine loops, then yes I agree, they are usually quite lame. Drum loops can also be very useful to learn from. As I am not a drummer, I often analyse drum loops, chop them up, shuffle them around, just to see what the rhythm is, so that I am learning the things that a real drummer would play. ----------------------------------------------- justin@argonaut.com ----------------------------------------------- Music Dept Leader Argonaut Software Ltd. 70 Colindale Avenue, Colindale London, NW9 5ER, England Tel: +44-181-200 5777 Fax: +44-181-200 9866 ----------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 05:59:10 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 05:59:01 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 05:47:40 -0400 Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com ([198.68.32.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 05:46:51 -0400 Received: from usr5.primenet.com (root@usr5.primenet.com [198.68.32.15]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id CAA23207 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 02:46:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [204.212.59.58] (ip058.lax.primenet.com [204.212.59.58]) by usr5.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19496 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 02:46:35 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: mrn@mailhost.primenet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 05:48:09 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: mrn@primenet.com (Mark Nathan) Subject: Re: sgroup s-330 trigger Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ->any drum machine with MIDI should work so long as it's transmitting on the ->right channels i.e. channel that matches the channel set on your S330. -> ->i have also used Yamaha drum pads - the type sold for kids' home use. lots ->of fun. What about quick 'audio' triggers for the s-330? Any recommendations? _______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________ Mark R. Nathan http://www.primenet.com/~mrn mrn@primenet.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 09:16:19 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:16:11 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:04:09 -0400 Received: from emout04.mail.aol.com ([198.81.10.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:03:20 -0400 Received: by emout04.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA01760 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:03:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:03:15 -0400 From: PaTripDisp@aol.com Message-ID: <960410090314_510032927@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R i think you are being a drum snob. loops are great for those of us who are not natural rhythm composers and who need to work quickly. i would rather buy a sampled loop of african percussion and futz around with it than spend the time trying to write it myself. you'd be right to argue that it's no better than sampling or cheating (and that it robs one of a valuable opportunity to *learn*) but then we get into an argument as divisive as the bible. btw, are there any good drum loops available for the s-50 that anyone would be willing to share? i have some of the midimark ones i'd be happy to trade. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 12:50:29 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:50:19 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:24:55 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:23:59 -0400 Received: from benj4ang.singnet.com.sg (ts900-1319.singnet.com.sg [165.21.5.135]) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA22077; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:23:03 +0800 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:23:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199604101623.AAA22077@merlion.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mrn@primenet.com (Mark Nathan), sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: bangg@singnet.com.sg (Benjamin Ang) Subject: Re: sgroup s-330 trigger Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Emu Procussion drum module has audio trigger inputs. So does the Roland drum pad set. but these may be way overkill for what you have in mind. At 05:48 AM 4/10/96 -0400, Mark Nathan wrote: > >What about quick 'audio' triggers for the s-330? Any recommendations? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B E N J A M I N A N G location: Singapore new e-mail address: bangg@singnet.com.sg EML homepage address: http://www.singnet.com.sg/~bangg/eml.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 13:20:03 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:19:55 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:50:13 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:24:19 -0400 Received: from benj4ang.singnet.com.sg (ts900-1319.singnet.com.sg [165.21.5.135]) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA22599; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:23:05 +0800 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:23:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199604101623.AAA22599@merlion.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: PaTripDisp@aol.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: bangg@singnet.com.sg (Benjamin Ang) Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I enjoy sequencing my own rhythm patterns, but i also use drum loops for certain styles (eg jungle, trip hop) that require that grungy lo-fi sampled sound over the whole loop. and I like to layer sped-up or slowed-down loops over my rhythm patterns at times (eg during the chorus) to create another atmosphere. Of course some drum loops are intrinsically lame-sounding eg samples of a drum machine playing 16-beat rock beat; but others can lend a whole new edge to the music eg tablas, latin percussion, 70s funk at double speed... So drum loops *are* useful, don't knock them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B E N J A M I N A N G location: Singapore new e-mail address: bangg@singnet.com.sg EML homepage address: http://www.singnet.com.sg/~bangg/eml.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 14:11:55 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:11:49 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id OAA07129 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:11:44 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <137>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:01:20 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:00:25 -0400 Received: from ntplx.net (root@jumbo.ntplx.net [204.213.176.1]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id OAA30601 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:00:12 -0400 Received: from [204.213.179.25] (ttyd5.hartford1.dialin.ntplx.com) by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.1) id AA24256; Wed, 10 Apr 96 13:58:28 EDT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:59:03 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: matrix@ntplx.net (Jonathan Condit) Subject: sgroup s-50 sequencer Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I specifically need info on it's "Director-S" internal software sequencer. How does one send program changes via midi using "Director-S" ? jon condit@synthesis one - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 15:11:14 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:11:05 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <138>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:58:52 -0400 Received: from newton.eigen.net ([206.103.86.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:58:02 -0400 Received: from MS001 (port_6.eigen.net [206.103.86.216]) by newton.eigen.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA14535; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:14:34 -0500 Received: by MS001 with Microsoft Mail id <01BB26E5.3C5FD3E0@MS001>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:54:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BB26E5.3C5FD3E0@MS001> From: Roy Tate To: "'Jeremy Roberts'" Cc: "'Roland Sampler Group'" Subject: sgroup RE: Samples to Disk Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:54:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Roy Said: >>perhaps someone could write data directly to 1.44K or 720K disks On Monday, April 08, 1996, Jeremy Roberts wrote: > >Why? > >With quality samples eating MEGABYTES at a time... floppies are essentially >dead for sample distribution - they are effective for operating systems, >sometimes. > >Jeremy Roberts >SAMPLEHEADS > Well, until I find a way to add RAM to my S-750, I'm stuck with 2 Megs. With that in mind, floppies make alot of sense. All my machine will hold goes on 1 or 2 disks. The general idea was that a Windows program would allow a user to: Collect a list of .WAVes or raw 44.1k samples, categorize them, copy or edit envelope, filter, controller info, add loop points (simulated by splicing together several runs through the loop), etc. Basically using the floppy or a 1.4m file as a workplace. Now, mind you, this is all a pipe dream at the moment ... but the "speed" of SDS and the overwhelming number of PC/Mac sound samples gives such a project merit. The only way I could add RAM now is to !?! build my own expansion board !?! (Thanks Roland for not using SIMMs). Peace, Roy Tate roytate@eigen.net - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 17:16:59 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:16:50 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id RAA05811 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:16:44 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:04:43 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:03:52 -0400 Received: from [38.12.221.70] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id RAA28425; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:03:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199604102103.RAA28425@smtp2.interramp.com> To: Subject: sgroup RE: Samples to Disk Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 09:05:44 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts cc: "'Roland Sampler Group'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Well, until I find a way to add RAM to my S-750... >The only way I could add RAM now is to !?! build my own expansion board !?! >(Thanks Roland for not using SIMMs). I've installed 30pin simms into Will Lee's S-750 - or was I on drugs? We brought his unit to 18 megs. Standard 30pin 4 meg simms..... (4 slots) JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 18:06:52 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:06:44 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id SAA15819 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:06:31 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:54:57 -0400 Received: from gw2.att.com ([192.20.239.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:54:00 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA22756; Wed, 10 Apr 96 17:51:06 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA03972; Wed, 10 Apr 96 17:44:43 EDT Received: from acropolis by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA19069; Wed, 10 Apr 96 17:44:50 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA08879; Wed, 10 Apr 96 17:44:49 EDT Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:44:49 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9604102144.AA08879@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup s-50 sequencer Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:59:03 -0400 > To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > Orig-From: matrix@ntplx.net (Jonathan Condit) > Subject: sgroup s-50 sequencer > Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > I specifically need info on it's "Director-S" internal software sequencer. > How does one send program changes via midi using "Director-S" ? > > jon condit@synthesis one Jon, all you have to do is insert an event in a pattern. It's been a while, but I've done lots of these. Only after you start the insert can you select what type of event it will be. Just choose Program Change. Let me know if you still have problems. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 18:33:53 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:33:43 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id SAA04925 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:33:39 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:22:57 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <162>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:21:49 -0400 Received: from (dialup06.wr.com.au) by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA20504; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:21:13 +1000 Message-Id: <9604102221.AA20504@wr.com.au> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:23:14 -0400 From: blurk@wr.com.au (Bernie Maier) Reply-To: blurk@wr.com.au (Bernie Maier) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > From: Chris Kirkham > While we are on the subject of sounds for sale on the Sgroup, is it just me > or do other people find the very existence of drumloops insulting? If one > can program, then why would one need to buy a rhythm all predone for them? It's not just you. I initially thought the same because I quite enjoy rhythm prgramming. However, I must admit to using sample drum loops on a couple of tracks recently. My motivation was to get a fairly finished sound very quickly, and the drum loops helped me achieve that. I don't know how much I'll continue to use them. What does annoy me about drum loops is the fact that you can't break them up into their separate components (like kick, snare, hi-hats etc.). If loops were supplied in their separate components, I'd have much more fun mixing and matching myself, and this would be much closer to the way I sequence percussion anyway. Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Let me out!!!" - Various artistes, collected by the Feral Carrot - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 20:16:55 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:16:50 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA20153 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:16:36 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <166>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:03:39 -0400 Received: from elbert.interrural.net ([199.238.129.35]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <162>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:02:50 -0400 Received: from JMalvey ([199.238.129.77]) by elbert.interrural.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11098) with SMTP id AAA258 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:03:18 -0600 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: jmalvey@bpmmusic.com (J Malvey) Organization: Malvey Productions To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:59:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: <19960411000314034.AAA258@JMalvey> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > > From: Chris Kirkham > > > While we are on the subject of sounds for sale on the Sgroup, is > > it just me or do other people find the very existence of drumloops > > insulting? If one can program, then why would one need to buy a > > rhythm all predone for them? Guess I'll add my 2 pennies worth. Personally I never cared for the idea of drumloops. But having read the previous replies to the original posting I can say my attitude has changed somewhat. What ever stimulates YOU to be creative, including using drumloops, GO FOR IT! I would be more inclined to buy a drumloop CD if it had the individual percussion sounds used in the loops available as seperate samples. Maybe they already do this? John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 20:39:48 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:39:39 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:25:37 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:24:16 -0400 Received: from [38.12.221.148] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id UAA07301; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:23:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199604110023.UAA07301@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup RE: Samples to Disk Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:26:19 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Could you expand the roland S760 past its 32 megs (and maybe get that lost >2 megs back?) > >It uses Mac Centris 610 type Ram, in two slots. S-760 RAM needs to be: 72pin 70ns AND (most importantly) a 2K refresh. "Mac SIMMS" doesn't get you all the way there. Many mac simms are indeed 2K, but most are 4K. The cheaper stuff will be 4K. I've installed more than 400 megs of 760 ram... and own 96 for my own racks... I've also had good ram and bad ram... The Chip Merchant will sell you 2K and be honest about it (and charge youfor it too). Not all vendors will be honest and try to sell you 4K - it'll fail then they'll lie. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 10 20:53:33 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:53:16 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA04314 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:53:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:39:12 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:24:24 -0400 Received: from [38.12.221.148] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id UAA07304; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:23:59 -0400 Message-Id: <199604110023.UAA07304@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:26:23 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "sgroup" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >What does annoy me about drum loops is the fact that you can't break them up >into their separate components (like kick, snare, hi-hats etc.). Of course you can. Use ReCycle (from Steinberg). JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 01:06:35 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 01:06:23 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:53:37 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET ([192.48.96.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:52:46 -0400 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQakxv01767; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:52:40 -0400 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id VAA21554; Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:22:47 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 01:22:34 -0400 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>>sgroup drumloops Chris Kirkham writes: > While we are on the subject of sounds for sale on the Sgroup, is it just me > or do other people find the very existence of drumloops insulting? If one > can program, then why would one need to buy a rhythm all predone for them? > I want to see more sample disks for sale that are made of single samples of > instruments, not phrases. Perhaps I'm picky because I previously played the > drums. I think the last point - that you are or were a drummer - is important. I'm a drummer turned drum programmer as well, and I also generally don't like to use loops. Earlier in this thread, Justin Scharvona wrote, "There is no substitute for a loop played by a real drummer when you need to make a track groove." I would amend this to say, "There is no substitute for a *real drummer*." Looped or just recorded, or just recorded via a MIDI kit (drumKat etc.), or even just a real drummer programming in step-time, with a steady hand on the swing controls, knowing what he or she is going for. If a particular user lacks the background, skill, or inclination to program strong drum parts (not a slam - we all have our strengths and weaknesses), I can see that drum loops make sense. The difficulty is that, through their repetition, they sometimes can seem static and unchanging, much like the drum machines that they are in some cases replacing - and, ironically, much unlike the playing of a real drummer. Also, tempo changes require more effort when working with loops, whereas with programmed drums, one can just change the tempo on the sequence and the drums will follow instantly. I will say that there is a certain sound achieved through the artifacts of time-stretching and transposition which can sometimes be pleasant - that messed-up, distorted, scratchy, vibey thang. Of course, one could mess up single-hit samples in this way, as well. Lastly, I regard the percussion parts as a compositional element, so I like to retain control of them, rather than ceding that control to a loop. For instance, the accents of the drums can be made to match or complement those of the rest of the song, to bring out punches, and so on. Personally, I like to program; I use single hits with extensive velocity switching, alternating between playing on a drumKat and simply playing from the keyboard. I try to remain very cognizant of feel; when I quantize, I usually use small amounts of swing, and usually quantize only partially; I also use track slipping extensively, to make the snare fall in the correct place, or to compensate for slow attack times on shakers or kick drums, for instance. I think it's possible to program very realistic, groove-laden drum parts. It just takes a lot of practice, and a reasonable amount of effort. For those who aren't comfortable with programming and who don't have access to a live drummer, drum loops can make sense; I just don't feel that loops are a necessarily superior solution. - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 02:30:10 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 02:29:54 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 02:20:15 -0400 Received: from atlas.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.250]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 02:19:25 -0400 Received: from coyote.csusm.edu (ciscots2_9.csusm.edu) by atlas.csusm.edu; id AA05488 sendmail 4.1/CSUSM-GW-1.2 Wed, 10 Apr 96 23:21:29 PDT for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <9604110621.AA05488@atlas.csusm.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Nation of Lies To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 03:19:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup Re: sgroup s-330 trigger Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On 10 Apr 96 at 12:23, Benjamin Ang wrote: > Emu Procussion drum module has audio trigger inputs. > So does the Roland drum pad set. > but these may be way overkill for what you have in mind. > I have a Procussion and mine does not have trigger inputs. I wish it did! The Alesis D4 has four inputs, and it's replacement and several Yamaha models do as well. I mention the D4 because it has reasonably good sounds and is avaiable fairly cheaply used. Also, KAT makes some reasonably priced pads specifically for this purpose. If there is a different version of the Procussion that has trigger ins, I'd really appriciated knowing. Thanks, ___________________________________________________________ _|ames \/\/. Thomas |\|ation of |_ies http://www.csusm.edu/public/thoma003/index.html Mail List Info: email w/"help NOL" in subject ___________________________________________________________ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 03:56:17 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 03:56:08 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 03:45:46 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 03:44:51 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA02070; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:44:19 -0200 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:44:15 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Roland cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops? In-Reply-To: <9604102221.AA20504@wr.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R OK, I have been sitting on the Sidelines looking into this discussion and since the people who are against LOOPS in general have nothing more to say than to find it insulting to use loops, I find them actually quite exciting :) I make Techno/Trans and find that to use the same drum loops in songs (Joined with some home made/sampled precussion) I can at least keep the feel from one song to another quite similar. Now, I would like to know from the 'anti-loop-league' DO YOU EVER USE OR MAKE LOOPS YOURSELF? How about starting a general sample library for us PLEBS who don't have the money/technolagy available for loops? Is there a site who specialises in non-preset samples that is free? Lets start a competition, the person who writes the best loops/samples for the S700 type samplers gets a badge that says: "I wrote the best sample for the s700 samplers for mmm/yyyy" And you get a year's free subscribtion to the 'Opra Winfield show'. (Just my 2c) Aubrey South Africa ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 04:13:29 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 04:13:16 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 03:58:32 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 03:57:36 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA02093; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:57:08 -0200 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:57:05 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Roland Subject: sgroup Front pannel editor for the S760 on PC! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Anyone out there who has made an editor for the S760? If not, I am about to start teaching myself DELPHY and want to use the excercise as training. Any ideas, suggestions or documentation I have to look out for before I start? The idea is to: 1. Have all the edit fasilities available on the front pannel transferred to PC. 2. Store and recieve SYSEX. (I seem to remember that you can send SYSEX to the S760 and do an auto load of the sounds used by the SYSEX) 3. Read and store Wave/Presets and Bank info at a glance. 4. Index all info on Hard disks (Phew - this is going to be tough...) and Stiffy disks. 5. And last, but not least have the flexability to change the outlay of the editor at user level. Well, think about it... Cheers Aubrey Kloppers South Africa ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 07:46:28 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:46:21 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id HAA28886 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:46:11 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:35:40 -0400 Received: from cold.ice.net.au ([203.17.166.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:34:50 -0400 Received: from Default ([203.10.70.111]) by cold.ice.net.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA23388 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:34:27 +1000 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:34:27 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960410213336.3847ad38@ice.net.au> X-Sender: blair@ice.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Blair Rideout Subject: Re: sgroup Re: sgroup s-330 trigger Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 03:19 AM 11/04/96 -0400, you wrote: Hi James! Have you got yourself a Roland sampler? >> Emu Procussion drum module has audio trigger inputs. >> So does the Roland drum pad set. >> but these may be way overkill for what you have in mind. >> >I have a Procussion and mine does not have trigger inputs. I wish it >did! The Alesis D4 has four inputs, and it's replacement and several I think you mean 4 outputs :) It has 12 trigger inputs. I reckon the D4 is worth the price alone for the triggering system. All you have to do is wire up some cheap piezo transducers and you're in business. Blair - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 11:50:39 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:50:29 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:39:18 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:38:27 -0400 Received: from [38.12.221.94] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id LAA23111; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:37:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199604111537.LAA23111@smtp2.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 03:40:19 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "sgroup" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I would be more inclined to buy a drumloop CD if it had the >individual percussion sounds used in the loops available as >seperate samples. Maybe they already do this? Many do. Most don't. Our drum ROMs, NYC Drumworks and Peter Erskine, both have hits and loops. Drumworks goes even further and has loops without the kick drum ("hands only"). I wasn't a big user of loops until I had ReCycle to help... then I made each loop my own and they'll never sound like anyone elses. It's about inspiration... a loop that inspires you to take your music to another place is why I use/make them. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 12:25:29 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:25:11 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:16:35 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:15:46 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com (smtp2.interramp.com [38.8.200.2]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id MAA31200 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:15:36 -0400 Received: from [38.12.221.94] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id MAA24101; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:14:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199604111614.MAA24101@smtp2.interramp.com> Subject: RE: sgroup RE: Samples to Disk Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 04:16:33 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >if I had the daughter board Gotcha. No more available? Ugh. Some dealer must have one stashed... I'll keep a lookout. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 13:13:26 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:13:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:58:40 -0400 Received: from aurora.cwu.edu ([198.104.65.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 12:57:50 -0400 Received: from crater.cwu.edu (SYSTEM@crater.cwu.edu) by AURORA.CWU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #11216) id <01I3ETF588BK002LVF@AURORA.CWU.EDU> for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.104.111.39] ("port 1218"@lewis.lib.cwu.edu) by cluster.cwu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #11216) id <01I3ETEVTGHC8ZFJH1@cluster.cwu.edu> for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:00:37 -0400 From: lewisg@cwu.edu (Gary Lewis) Subject: sgroup All I Care To Say About Drum Loops X-Sender: lewisg@clustera.cwu.edu To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01I3ETEW9J6Q8ZFJH1@cluster.cwu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Sgroup, I am rapidly growing weary of this discussion of drum loops. Music is art. Art in in the eye (ear) of the beholder. Have been briefly and painfully exposed to some of the more advant garde "music" based on ambient sounds. To me this stuff mostly sounds like train wrecks. But who am I to judge? I have come to define music as sound organized over time. I have very vividly defined musical tastes and they exclude major areas of music, but I don't think we should throw mud at other people's music. I suggest that we move on to another topic. P.S. Let's also exclude religion, politics, and O.J. Simpson. Sex,however, is O.K. with me! Gary ............................................................................. Dr. Gary A. Lewis, Dean Library and Media Services Central Washington University LEWISG@CWU.EDU / 509-963-1901, FAX 509-963-3684 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 15:29:10 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:29:03 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id PAA00201 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:28:54 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:19:10 -0400 Received: from atlas.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.250]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:18:20 -0400 Received: from by atlas.csusm.edu; id AB06294 sendmail 4.1/CSUSM-GW-1.2 Thu, 11 Apr 96 12:20:14 PDT for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <9604111920.AB06294@atlas.csusm.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Nation of Lies To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:16:57 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup Re: sgroup s-330 trigger Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On 11 Apr 96 at 7:34, Blair Rideout wrote: > Hi James! Have you got yourself a Roland sampler? > I have the vaunted, one and only W30, with a couple of prehistoric old hard disks hooked up. And after all these years it still suits my needs for live sequencing (is that a paradox?). > I think you mean 4 outputs :) It has 12 trigger inputs. I reckon > the D4 is worth the price alone for the triggering system. All you > have to do is wire up some cheap piezo transducers and you're in > business. > There's a version of the D4 with TWELVE inputs? The last one I used had only four, which I thought was kind of limiting. Is there some difference in the model number (D4 mkII or somesuch)? It's absolutely worth the price they're going for with that many inputs! Where would one find these transducers, and how cheap is cheap? I've seen ones advertised mail order for about $30US. ___________________________________________________________ _|ames \/\/. Thomas |\|ation of |_ies http://www.csusm.edu/public/thoma003/index.html Mail List Info: email w/"help NOL" in subject ___________________________________________________________ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 16:51:19 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:51:12 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:41:10 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:40:21 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id NAA00962; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:39:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199604112039.NAA00962@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup Front pannel editor for the S760 on PC! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Audrey Why would you want to build an editor when the unit has a fantastic video/mouse function (thats one of the main resasons I bought the unit)? Also would the S760 allow short sysex changes, or would you have to dump the whole contents (150k)? That dump takes a while. At 07:57 AM 4/11/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Anyone out there who has made an editor for the S760? If not, I am about >to start teaching myself DELPHY and want to use the excercise as >training. Any ideas, suggestions or documentation I have to look out for >before I start? > >The idea is to: > >1. Have all the edit fasilities available on the front pannel transferred > to PC. >2. Store and recieve SYSEX. (I seem to remember that you can send SYSEX > to the S760 and do an auto load of the sounds used by the SYSEX) >3. Read and store Wave/Presets and Bank info at a glance. >4. Index all info on Hard disks (Phew - this is going to be tough...) and > Stiffy disks. >5. And last, but not least have the flexability to change the outlay of > the editor at user level. > >Well, think about it... >Cheers >Aubrey Kloppers >South Africa Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 16:51:19 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:51:12 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:41:10 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:40:21 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id NAA00962; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:39:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199604112039.NAA00962@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup Front pannel editor for the S760 on PC! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Audrey Why would you want to build an editor when the unit has a fantastic video/mouse function (thats one of the main resasons I bought the unit)? Also would the S760 allow short sysex changes, or would you have to dump the whole contents (150k)? That dump takes a while. At 07:57 AM 4/11/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Anyone out there who has made an editor for the S760? If not, I am about >to start teaching myself DELPHY and want to use the excercise as >training. Any ideas, suggestions or documentation I have to look out for >before I start? > >The idea is to: > >1. Have all the edit fasilities available on the front pannel transferred > to PC. >2. Store and recieve SYSEX. (I seem to remember that you can send SYSEX > to the S760 and do an auto load of the sounds used by the SYSEX) >3. Read and store Wave/Presets and Bank info at a glance. >4. Index all info on Hard disks (Phew - this is going to be tough...) and > Stiffy disks. >5. And last, but not least have the flexability to change the outlay of > the editor at user level. > >Well, think about it... >Cheers >Aubrey Kloppers >South Africa Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 17:15:01 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:14:59 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id RAA20081 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:14:52 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:04:59 -0400 Received: from gw2.att.com ([192.20.239.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:04:08 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA13943; Thu, 11 Apr 96 17:01:01 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA17986; Thu, 11 Apr 96 17:03:25 EDT Received: from acropolis by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA19755; Thu, 11 Apr 96 17:03:33 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA15083; Thu, 11 Apr 96 17:03:31 EDT Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:03:31 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9604112103.AA15083@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Jeremy, You mentioned ReCycle a few times. Please describe it in detail. I assume it's software. What platform? Thanks. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 17:28:02 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:27:53 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:15:56 -0400 Received: from graf.cc.emory.edu ([170.140.1.44]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:14:48 -0400 Received: from anx51-88.dialup.emory.edu (anx51-88.dialup.emory.edu [170.140.250.88]) by graf.cc.emory.edu (8.7.3/8.6.9-950630.01osg-itd.null) with SMTP id RAA01756 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <316D9216.5106@emory.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:13:26 -0400 From: Joshua Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup sdisk usage X-URL: ftp://lotus.uwaterloo.ca/pub/sgroup/Introduction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I am a w30 owner and am having some difficulty. Sdisk usually works fine for me, but when I try to write the file 5502_10.out to a 720K formatted disk, I get the message that "disk is too small/large for file. I noticed that the file 5502_10.out is smaller than the rest of the rsb files. Either it is defective or I am doing something wrong. Please help! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 18:09:59 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:09:52 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:57:59 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:57:25 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id OAA14746; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 14:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:57:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199604112157.OAA14746@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup sdisk usage Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I had this problem too, and never figured it out. Those Roland S550 samples are pretty well done too. There is something to be said for the samples made in the days when they had to be used in samplers with a max of 1.5 Megs of RAM! At 07:13 PM 4/11/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hi, I am a w30 owner and am having some difficulty. Sdisk >usually works fine for me, but when I try to write the file 5502_10.out >to a 720K formatted disk, I get the message that "disk is too small/large >for file. I noticed that the file 5502_10.out is smaller than the rest >of the rsb files. Either it is defective or I am doing something wrong. >Please help! Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 11 19:43:43 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:43:29 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:34:46 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:33:56 -0400 Received: from [38.12.221.159] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id TAA09843; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:33:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199604112333.TAA09843@smtp2.interramp.com> Subject: sgroup Re: ReCycle Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:36:09 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "sgroup" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >You mentioned ReCycle a few times. Please describe it in detail. I >assume it's software. What platform? Thanks. ReCycle is from Steinberg. Steinberg-US's web site is at: http://www.steinberg-us.com/ JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 13 00:12:38 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 00:12:35 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:57:40 -0400 Received: from cold.ice.net.au ([203.17.166.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:56:30 -0400 Received: from Default (max-2.hobart.ice.net.au [203.17.166.151]) by cold.ice.net.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA08672 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:55:49 +1000 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:55:49 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960413145416.0e0f450e@ice.net.au> X-Sender: blair@ice.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Blair Rideout Subject: Re: sgroup Front pannel editor for the S760 on PC! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 04:39 PM 11/04/96 -0400, you wrote: >Audrey > >Why would you want to build an editor when the unit has a fantastic >video/mouse function (thats one of the main resasons I bought the unit)? >Also would the S760 allow short sysex changes, or would you have to dump the >whole contents (150k)? That dump takes a while. If it could allow the use of a keyboard to enter patch, partial and sample names I'm all for it. Using a mouse is easier than front panel buttons but it's still incredibly time consuming. Even worse is the fact that MIDI-transferred samples are given a default name so you can't use the 'auto-repeat' function that brings the last-used name up. Blair - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 13 00:28:10 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 00:27:57 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 00:14:02 -0400 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca ([199.185.130.34]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 19:57:54 -0400 Received: from remote151.compusmart.ab.ca (remote151.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.131.191]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA20727 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 00:57:34 GMT Message-ID: <316E4399.5E0D@compusmart.ab.ca> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:50:49 -0400 From: Jeff Organization: World Citizen X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S-550 SYSTEM DISK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I just bought a Roland S-550 sampler at a pawn shop, and I never got a disk with it. Can anybody help me out? If someone could email it to me, or tell me where I can get one. -- Jeffery K. Ward jward@compusmart.ab.ca http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/jward ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "O SON OF MAN! Deny not My servant should he ask anything from thee, for his face is my face; be then abashed before Me." ~Baha'i Writings ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 13 13:04:36 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:04:26 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 12:44:04 -0400 Received: from upsmot03.msn.com ([204.95.110.85]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 12:42:51 -0400 Received: from upmajb02.msn.com (upmajb02.msn.com [204.95.110.74]) by upsmot03.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id JAA27608; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 09:34:52 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 12:29:35 -0400 From: "Jason Darien" Message-Id: To: "Aubrey" , "Roland" Subject: RE: sgroup Front pannel editor for the S760 on PC! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ---------- From: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca on behalf of Aubrey Sent: Thursday, April 11, 1996 7:57 AM To: Roland Subject: sgroup Front pannel editor for the S760 on PC! Anyone out there who has made an editor for the S760? If not, I am about to start teaching myself DELPHY and want to use the excercise as training. Any ideas, suggestions or documentation I have to look out for before I start? The idea is to: 1. Have all the edit fasilities available on the front pannel transferred to PC. 2. Store and recieve SYSEX. (I seem to remember that you can send SYSEX to the S760 and do an auto load of the sounds used by the SYSEX) 3. Read and store Wave/Presets and Bank info at a glance. 4. Index all info on Hard disks (Phew - this is going to be tough...) and Stiffy disks. 5. And last, but not least have the flexability to change the outlay of the editor at user level. Well, think about it... Cheers Aubrey Kloppers South Africa ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Would this program also work on a 750...?? Or does one already exist for that unit....? Thanks Jason - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 13 16:38:24 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:38:10 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id QAA09770 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:38:03 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:27:55 -0400 Received: from gold.muskoka.com ([204.101.78.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:27:05 -0400 Received: from abarrow.muskoka.com (ppp18.muskoka.com [204.101.78.48]) by gold.muskoka.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA16465 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:54:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:54:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199604132054.QAA16465@gold.muskoka.com> X-Sender: abarrow@muskoka.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: abarrow@muskoka.com (Ingmar Bergman) Subject: sgroup S330 crashes Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I just bought an S-330, and it seems to sporadically (about twice a day) freeze and reboot. This isn't SUCH a big deal, but in the middle of playing or recording, (which has happened twice) it really hurts. Has anybody had this problem before? (I heard something similar happened to akais when their floppy drive was going)... Thanks, Andrew Barrow (abarrow@muskoka.com) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 13 17:09:10 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 17:09:00 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:55:21 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:54:27 -0400 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id QAA24369 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:54:03 -0400 Received: from uucp5.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQalhr25993; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp5.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:53:25 -0400 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id NAA22564; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 13:49:00 -0700 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 17:47:18 -0400 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup Front pannel edi To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>>sgroup Front pannel editor for the S760 on PC! Blair Rideout writes (re an S-760 editor program): > If it could allow the use of a keyboard to enter patch, partial and sample > names I'm all for it. Using a mouse is easier than front panel buttons > but it's still incredibly time consuming. Even worse is the fact that > MIDI-transferred samples are given a default name so you can't use the > 'auto-repeat' function that brings the last-used name up. Are you familiar with the name caching of the text editor? The last 20 edited names are remembered, and can be recalled using the up/down arrows in the lower left corner of the text editor popup. You can grab a name into the cache by selecting the name for editing and then simply pressing "CR." (So that that you don't actually need to enter any text to get the name into the cache.) Granted, this isn't as fast as the "auto-repeat" function, but it beats the heck out of actually re-entering the entire name.... - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 13 22:24:28 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 22:24:15 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 22:13:12 -0400 Received: from cold.ice.net.au ([203.17.166.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 22:12:37 -0400 Received: from Default (max-21.hobart.ice.net.au [203.17.166.170]) by cold.ice.net.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA13377 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 12:12:30 +1000 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 22:12:30 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960414121143.29b7b2c2@ice.net.au> X-Sender: blair@ice.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Blair Rideout Subject: sgroup S-760 SCSI noise Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hello all, I recently upgraded my PC to a P150 with bus-mastering SCSI controller and 2G SCSI-II hard disk for hard disk recording (in addition to my 1G SCSI hard disk which is used by S-760). However, I've found that any access on the SCSI bus causes interference in the rest of my audio equipment (desk, sound cards and so forth). I had previously assumed that this noise was simply caused by the S-760 when it loaded/saved to disk and was not overly concerned as there was no chance of it feeding into a mix. Now, I am recording to a SCSI device, so recording/ playback are accompanied by the interference. I found that it seems to be caused by the external SCSI cable/S-760 combination (it happens even when the S-760 is off, and when it and the cable are moved well away from everything else). If the external cable is unplugged it disappears. Anyone else come across this, and if so, how to fix??? I've had the unit on 3 different SCSI cards, and have run it on 2 different cables, so that's not the problem. Any suggestions welcome. Blair - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 12 01:49:42 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:49:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:38:55 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:38:05 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA02819; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:36:21 -0200 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 05:36:16 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Chris Kirkham cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Front pannel editor for the S760 on PC! In-Reply-To: <199604112039.NAA00962@franc.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Chris (And everybody else), I am from South Africa. Currently the rate of exchange is in excess of 4.2 to 1. That means the current price of a daughter board is in the region of R1800 aditionally to this, an RGB display (Which is not a standard in SA) is in the region of R1200. This means, I have to outlay in the region of R3000 to get the CRT functionality. At the moment I have a MIDI dedicated machine with WIN95 and some super interfaces. DELPHY is :) freeware for me at this moment. So for a little bit of a headache, I can save myself (And anyone who is interested) a good couple of bucks... Think about it. Aubrey On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Chris Kirkham wrote: > Audrey > > Why would you want to build an editor when the unit has a fantastic > video/mouse function (thats one of the main resasons I bought the unit)? > Also would the S760 allow short sysex changes, or would you have to dump the > whole contents (150k)? That dump takes a while. > > At 07:57 AM 4/11/96 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Anyone out there who has made an editor for the S760? If not, I am about > >to start teaching myself DELPHY and want to use the excercise as > >training. Any ideas, suggestions or documentation I have to look out for > >before I start? > > > >The idea is to: > > > >1. Have all the edit fasilities available on the front pannel transferred > > to PC. > >2. Store and recieve SYSEX. (I seem to remember that you can send SYSEX > > to the S760 and do an auto load of the sounds used by the SYSEX) > >3. Read and store Wave/Presets and Bank info at a glance. > >4. Index all info on Hard disks (Phew - this is going to be tough...) and > > Stiffy disks. > >5. And last, but not least have the flexability to change the outlay of > > the editor at user level. > > > >Well, think about it... > >Cheers > >Aubrey Kloppers > >South Africa > Chris Kirkham > (916)754-8156 > clkirkham@ucdavis.edu > > Risk Sciences Program > Environmental Toxicology Department > U.C. Davis > Davis CA 95616 > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 12 02:11:48 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:11:43 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:01:09 -0400 Received: from server1.deltanet.com ([199.171.190.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:59:33 -0400 Received: from ana2083.deltanet.com by server1.deltanet.com (5.65/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id AA05412 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Thu, 11 Apr 96 22:59:16 -0700 Message-Id: <9604120559.AA05412@server1.deltanet.com> X-Sender: mckinnon@mail.deltanet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:58:35 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: "Mike J. McKinnon" Subject: sgroup Need SCSI 'option' chip for W-30 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hello everybody, I need a source for the Fujitsu SCSI chip used in the W-30. Preferably one that has this part in stock and for a reasonable price. I need two of them. Thanks in advance, Mike McKinnon mckinnon@aurasystems.com mckinnon@deltanet.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 12 02:40:30 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:40:18 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:29:21 -0400 Received: from burwood.pcmicro.com.au ([203.23.11.65]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:28:26 -0400 Received: from area51 (area51.pcmicro.com.au [203.23.11.123]) by burwood.pcmicro.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA09673 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 1996 17:33:15 +1000 Message-Id: <199604120733.RAA09673@burwood.pcmicro.com.au> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matt Curtis" Organization: R&D @ P&C Micros Pty. Ltd. To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 23:26:24 -0400 Subject: sgroup S330 expandability Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi, Is the S330 expandable, in any way? Can I fit a hard disk to it? Or a memory upgrade? If Roland didn't do anything for it, were there any third party people doing stuff to it? Is there anything else for it? Besides a mouse/RC100 I mean. thanks, -matt -- matt@pcmicro.com.au, citizen #61395872341, session zombie, PGP me! (R) IMPENDING DOOM HAS ARRIVED page 1 of 1 pages - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Apr 14 04:29:13 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 04:29:07 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 04:11:29 -0400 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 04:10:39 -0400 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA124468602; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 07:56:42 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199604140756.AA124468602@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Sun, 14 Apr 96 07:56:42 UTC 0000 ( from INET02# ; Sun, 14 Apr 96 07:56:37 UTC 0000) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 02:56:00 -0500 To: blair@ice.net.au Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 6109347 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 716544 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sgroup S-760 SCSI noise Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply: Item #4839324 from BLAIR@ICE.NET.AU@INET02# Hi - Has anyone found what they consider to be a really great sounding piano sample for the S-760? Like on a CD Rom? I just got a JV-1080 which I'm very happy with except for the pianos in it, which leave a lot to be desired in my opinion. Thanks - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Apr 14 16:47:32 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 16:47:22 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 16:32:59 -0400 Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net ([204.214.4.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 16:31:38 -0400 Received: from max7-194.HiWAAY.net by fly.HiWAAY.net; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/21Sep95-1003PM) id AA07617; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 15:31:22 -0500 Message-Id: <9604142031.AA07617@fly.HiWAAY.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 16:33:51 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cornutt@hiwaay.net (David K. Cornutt) Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 SCSI noise Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I found that it seems to be caused by the external SCSI cable/S-760 >combination (it happens even when the S-760 is off, and when it and >the cable are moved well away from everything else). If the external >cable is unplugged it disappears. Anyone else come across this, and >if so, how to fix??? I've had the unit on 3 different SCSI cards, >and have run it on 2 different cables, so that's not the problem. >Any suggestions welcome. My guess is it's a termination problem. Try adding an external terminator at the S-760's end. Dave David K. Cornutt, Residentially Engineered, Huntsville, AL email: cornutt@hiwaay.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Apr 14 17:14:38 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:14:31 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id RAA09779 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:14:24 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:01:58 -0400 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 16:59:22 -0400 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts010p7.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.100.189]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA23889; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 23:59:38 +0300 Message-ID: <3171F53B.7E4C@netvision.net.il> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 03:05:31 -0400 From: Ronen Hillel Organization: RH MIDIstudio X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, Blair Rideout Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 SCSI noise References: <2.2.16.19960414121143.29b7b2c2@ice.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R have run it on 2 different cables, so that's not the problem. > Any suggestions welcome. > > Blair there are tow kindes of scsi cables, the thik ones produse less nois if at all. -- DONT LET THE SUN GO DOUN ON ME. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Apr 14 20:17:19 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 20:17:07 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 20:06:45 -0400 Received: from services ([168.166.0.67]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 20:05:54 -0400 Received: from [128.206.1.173] by services (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA10215; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 19:08:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 20:08:32 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ofajen@services.state.mo.us (otto fajen) Subject: sgroup multiple s550s on a scsi device? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R does anyone happen to know if you can hook up more than one s-550 at the same time to a cd-rom unit? i read in an old roland users group mag that this was possible, but the cd-5 manual doesn't mention it. i'll probably get a second machine anyway, but it'd be cooler if they could share the cd-rom drive directly. thanks, otto - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 15 03:47:20 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 03:47:16 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id DAA10257 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 03:47:07 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 03:35:53 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 03:35:02 -0400 Received: from (dialup38.wr.com.au) by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA09281; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:34:27 +1000 Message-Id: <9604150734.AA09281@wr.com.au> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 20:35:56 -0400 From: blurk@wr.com.au (Bernie Maier) Reply-To: blurk@wr.com.au (Bernie Maier) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: Re: sgroup Re: sgroup s-330 trigger Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO James W. Thomas wrote: >On 11 Apr 96 at 7:34, Blair Rideout wrote: >> I think you mean 4 outputs :) It has 12 trigger inputs. I reckon >> the D4 is worth the price alone for the triggering system. All you >> have to do is wire up some cheap piezo transducers and you're in >> business. >> >There's a version of the D4 with TWELVE inputs? The last one I used >had only four, which I thought was kind of limiting. Is there some >difference in the model number (D4 mkII or somesuch)? It's >absolutely worth the price they're going for with that many inputs! My D4 has twelve trigger inputs. There is nothing that identifies it as anything other than the original version. It displays a 1991 copyright message when it starts up. Also, I recall reading when they first came out that they had lots of inputs, so this four inputs business is a mystery to me. Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Let me out!!!" - Various artistes, collected by the Feral Carrot - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 15 08:20:14 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:20:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:08:40 -0400 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:07:51 -0400 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts001p4.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.100.24]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA18942; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:08:17 +0300 Message-ID: <3172CA34.1008@netvision.net.il> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:14:12 -0400 From: Ronen Hillel Organization: RH MIDIstudio X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, otto fajen Subject: Re: sgroup multiple s550s on a scsi device? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO otto fajen wrote: > > does anyone happen to know if you can hook up more > than one s-550 at the same time to a cd-rom unit? i read in an old roland > users group mag that this was possible, but the cd-5 manual doesn't mention > it. > i'll probably get a second machine anyway, but it'd be cooler if they could > share the cd-rom drive directly. > > thanks, > > otto > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca I think you just plug the 2nd s550 at the end of the scsi chain. (i dont know about the units self id no. but you probably have to change it as well.) -- DONT LET THE SUN GO DOUN ON ME. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 15 08:53:58 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:53:56 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca via suspension id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:42:33 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:35:10 -0400 Received: from services ([168.166.0.67]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:34:21 -0400 Received: from [128.206.1.122] by services (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA19525; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 07:37:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 08:37:01 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ofajen@services.state.mo.us (otto fajen) Subject: Re: sgroup multiple s550s on a scsi device? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >otto fajen wrote: >> does anyone happen to know if you can hook up more >> than one s-550 at the same time to a cd-rom unit? i read in an old roland >> users group mag that this was possible, but the cd-5 manual doesn't mention >> it. > >I think you just plug the 2nd s550 at the end of the scsi chain. >(i dont know about the units self id no. but you probably have to change >it as well.) >-- this option occurred to me. my concern is that the cd-5 manual states that the s550 self scsi id is permanently set to 7. i don't know whether this will create conflict with two 550s in the same chain. otto - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 15 14:08:47 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-2>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:08:35 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id OAA12399 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:08:31 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 13:53:16 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 13:52:27 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id KAA27153; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 13:52:00 -0400 Message-Id: <199604151752.KAA27153@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup Front pannel editor for the S760 on PC! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Blair, Yes, Im very jealous of a new sampler (EMU?) that has a ASCII keyboard input, wouldn't that be time saving? I just saw some kind of editor for the S770 for Emagic Logic users, Ill check it out. >>Why would you want to build an editor when the unit has a fantastic >>video/mouse function (thats one of the main resasons I bought the unit)? >>Also would the S760 allow short sysex changes, or would you have to dump the >>whole contents (150k)? That dump takes a while. > >If it could allow the use of a keyboard to enter patch, partial and sample >names I'm all for it. Using a mouse is easier than front panel buttons >but it's still incredibly time consuming. Even worse is the fact that >MIDI-transferred samples are given a default name so you can't use the >'auto-repeat' function that brings the last-used name up. > > >Blair Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 15 14:29:39 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-3>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:29:31 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id OAA20261 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:29:27 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:09:51 -0400 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:08:23 -0400 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA160110485; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:48:05 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199604151748.AA160110485@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Mon, 15 Apr 96 17:48:05 UTC 0000 ( from inet# ; Mon, 15 Apr 96 17:47:08 UTC 0000) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:45:00 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 1664329 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 567130 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sgroup Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi - When doing a volume load from floppy, where the sounds are retrieved from a CD Rom disk, some of the samples have wierd screeching sounds added onto the ends of samples. If I load those sounds the "usual" way, this doesn't occur? Has anyone else had this problem, or know why it might be happening? Thanks - Tommy P.S. Still looking for that killer piano sound! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 15 15:20:17 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:20:11 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:07:19 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:06:13 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id MAA19239; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 15:05:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199604151905.MAA19239@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Tommy It sounds like your some of your data is corrupted. Are you loading all of your sounds from cdROM? The CD shouldnt be corrupted. Ive had a similar probalem with my 760. There was one particular bass gtr sample from the 760 CDROM that did that. However, I've had the problem more with samples stored on magnetic media. > When doing a volume load from >floppy, where the sounds are retrieved from a CD Rom disk, some of >the samples have wierd screeching sounds added onto the ends of >samples. If I load those sounds the "usual" way, this doesn't occur? > > Has anyone else had this problem, or know why it might be >happening? > > Thanks - Tommy > > P.S. Still looking for that killer piano sound! Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 15 16:33:04 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-2>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:33:00 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:21:06 -0400 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:20:10 -0400 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts001p12.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.100.32]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id XAA19997 for ; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 23:15:18 +0300 Message-ID: <31733C52.3A15@netvision.net.il> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 02:21:06 -0400 From: Ronen Hillel Organization: RH MIDIstudio X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup R-LOOP ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO HI In the loop mode(on the 760),there is a R-LOOP ,i understand what it das but what uses das it have ? -- DONT LET THE SUN GO DOUN ON ME. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 15 23:48:19 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 23:48:14 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 23:36:37 -0400 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 23:35:45 -0400 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA241754905; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 03:21:45 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199604160321.AA241754905@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Tue, 16 Apr 96 03:21:45 UTC 0000 ( from inet# ; Tue, 16 Apr 96 03:20:03 UTC 0000) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:24:00 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 0037002 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 576537 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sgroup Release Loops Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi Ronen - From the Keyboard article Jan. '96 (this is a very helpful article!): " Release Loop: A type of loop (called R-Loop in the S-760 operating system) that starts playing back after you release the key. When the key is lifted, sample playback will finish the current pass through the sustain loop and then move on to the remainder of the sound, which may or may not contain a release loop. The release loop will be heard for the length of time determined by the release time you set in the Partial TVA of the S-760." - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 16 00:06:10 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-1>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 00:06:03 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id AAA30432 for ; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 00:06:02 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 23:49:26 -0400 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 23:47:46 -0400 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA245625011; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 03:23:32 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199604160323.AA245625011@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Tue, 16 Apr 96 03:23:31 UTC 0000 ( from inet# ; Tue, 16 Apr 96 03:21:10 UTC 0000) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 22:24:00 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 6448108 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 576741 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sgroup Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Chris - The wierd thing is I only get these corrupt sounding samples when I do the volume dump thing. When I load the same samples, from the same CD ROM, in the "usual" way, they sound fine. By "usual" way, I mean selecting them with the mouse and hitting "Load". Hmmmmmm...... Bryan - >Regarding your technical question, try soaking your floppy disks in Diet >Pepsi for a few minutes before loading. That should eliminate that screeching >sound you refered to. You may have something there. I tried smearing it with Crisco but that didn't seem to help. - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 15 09:30:51 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 09:30:39 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 09:18:33 -0400 Received: from gw2.att.com ([192.20.239.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Mon, 15 Apr 1996 09:17:41 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA23064; Mon, 15 Apr 96 09:14:49 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA12990; Mon, 15 Apr 96 09:17:10 EDT Received: from acropolis by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA05806; Mon, 15 Apr 96 09:17:17 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA00817; Mon, 15 Apr 96 09:17:16 EDT Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 09:17:16 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9604151317.AA00817@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup multiple s550s on a scsi device? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Otto said: > this option occurred to me. my concern is that the cd-5 manual states that > the s550 self scsi id is permanently set to 7. i don't know whether this > will create conflict with two 550s in the same chain. My guess is that neither S550 will ever try to access a SCSI address of 7 so they might not interfere with each other unless you try to make them access the SCSI bus simultaneously. Try it and let us know! Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 16 08:07:43 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:07:39 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 07:52:46 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 07:51:53 -0400 Received: from (dialup39.wr.com.au) by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA10087; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:51:16 +1000 Message-Id: <9604161151.AA10087@wr.com.au> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:56:52 -0400 From: blurk@wr.com.au (Bernie Maier) Reply-To: blurk@wr.com.au (Bernie Maier) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: PMMail v1.1 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Subject: Re: sgroup multiple s550s on a scsi device? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Bill Fox wrote: >Otto said: >> this option occurred to me. my concern is that the cd-5 manual states that >> the s550 self scsi id is permanently set to 7. i don't know whether this >> will create conflict with two 550s in the same chain. > >My guess is that neither S550 will ever try to access a SCSI address of >7 so they might not interfere with each other unless you try to make >them access the SCSI bus simultaneously. Try it and let us know! I think that there will almost definitely be a conflict, even if both S550s don't initiate a SCSI transfer simultaneously. I definitely got a conflict when I connected my S-760 to my PC, both with SCSI ID set to 7. The PC was not doing any I/O at the time. (BTW, I posted earlier regarding implications of connecting the sampler, PC and shared peripherals. I have now done so, and once everything was set up correctly, have not experienced any problems.) Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Let me out!!!" - Various artistes, collected by the Feral Carrot - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 16 12:08:15 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 12:08:05 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:52:24 -0400 Received: from astral.magic.ca ([199.166.230.69]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:51:34 -0400 Received: from [199.166.232.60] (baator1.magic.ca [199.166.232.60]) by astral.magic.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05023; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 11:54:34 -0400 X-Sender: lost@astral.magic.ca (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 06:51:18 -0400 To: abarrow@muskoka.com (Ingmar Bergman) From: lost@astral.magic.ca (Steve Cowan) Subject: Re: sgroup S330 crashes Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 9:54 PM 4/13/96, Ingmar Bergman wrote: >I just bought an S-330, and it seems to sporadically (about twice a day) >freeze and reboot. This isn't SUCH a big deal, but in the middle of playing >or recording, (which has happened twice) it really hurts. Has anybody had >this problem before? (I heard something similar happened to akais when their >floppy drive was going)... > >Thanks, >Andrew Barrow (abarrow@muskoka.com) Yes, I have had that very problem with my 330. I took it in to the shop and it was found that the unit overheats (as a result of a design flaw). They cleaned it inside and resoldered a couple of circuit traces which were apparently weakened by it overheating. It has not done the same thing to me since. Preventative maintenance: open up your 330 every few months and clean out any dust. ................................/ Steve J. Cowan [ e-mail: sc@magic.ca ] Producer, "Lost in Cyberspace" [ e-mail: lost@astral.magic.ca ] Admin, Wavestation Mailing List [ WWW: http://www.magic.ca/~lost/ws.html] - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 16 17:30:20 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-2>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:30:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:14:57 -0400 Received: from acs5.bu.edu ([128.197.154.50]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:14:07 -0400 Received: by acs5.bu.edu (8.6.13/BU_SmartClient-1.0) id RAA146376; Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:10:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:10:21 -0400 From: jawbox@acs.bu.edu Message-Id: <199604162110.RAA146376@acs5.bu.edu> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Director S Sequencer Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Ok, i have my sampler and i have this software. if someone can please mail me some directions on this sequencing package i'll trade you some sick samples i've made...if you don't like them then you can always erase the disks and use them for other samples. pecae - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 17 11:05:29 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:05:20 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:50:05 -0400 Received: from gw2.att.com ([192.20.239.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:49:14 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA05317; Wed, 17 Apr 96 10:41:07 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA15132; Wed, 17 Apr 96 10:33:07 EDT Received: from acropolis by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA03753; Wed, 17 Apr 96 10:33:12 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA17592; Wed, 17 Apr 96 09:06:57 EDT Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:06:57 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9604171306.AA17592@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup Director S Sequencer Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Privately, Jon Condit said: > thanks very much for yourresponse.Unfortunately , i don't know exactly > where the "insert" menu is on the sequencer. The only insert i know of is > in song mode. How ( and in what mode ) do you access the insert menu? > Where is the insert menu in pattern mode? Once I get there, i'm sure it > will be easy. And on sgroup, he asked: > I specifically need info on it's "Director-S" internal software sequencer. > How does one send program changes via midi using "Director-S" ? Jon, one thing I should mention: I have an S550 and I'm *assuming* that Director-S is VERY similar to what you have on your S50. I may, of course, be wrong. With that disclaimer out of the way, in Pattern Mode, you should be able to find a pulldown menu item for inserting events. I'm at work, my manual is at home, and it has been a long time since I've used this sequencer. But I recall that the pulldown items change under certain conditions. You probably need to be in the mode where you can see the individual events at the bottom of the screen. It isn't the default mode. The exact name eludes me, but micro(something) springs to mind. Once the events are displayed, the edit? menu's contents should include what you need to INSERT events. Good luck. And from jawbox@acs.bu.edu... > Ok, i have my sampler and i have this software. > if someone can please mail me some directions > on this sequencing package i'll trade you some sick samples > i've made...if you don't like them then you can > always erase the disks and use them for other samples. > pecae Fingers getting a little dyslexic there at the end? ;-) Although Roland manuals are mostly bad translations into English from Japanese, I still would recommend that you get one. Q: Do you have a floppy disk with Director-S on it and do you have the little plug that fits into the mouse port? If you're missing the former, you don't have the software. If you're missing the latter, you won't be able to save your work onto disk. If you have both, then go to the disk pulldown menu and select change system (with a Director-S disk in the drive). This loads the sequencing software. The main pulldown menu will now include Pattern and Song modes. In Pattern mode, you can make short patterns. Warning: these patterns are limited to 300 events. Some thickly orchestrated patterns I've made had to be one measure long! I rarely have made patterns as long as eight measures. Most are four or two measures. And I make a "count off" pattern that contains Program Change and Continuous Controller info as well as hihat clicks or pickup notes. Next, go to Pattern mode to string together all of your patterns. Play mode is for performing your songs. Return to disk mode to save your songs. The first time you do this, you will be prompted to insert the key in the mouse port. This stays enabled until you power down your unit or do a change system that removes Director-S. Live long and sequence! Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 17 01:25:02 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-1>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:24:51 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id BAA23536 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:24:50 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:12:06 -0400 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.25]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:11:16 -0400 Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA20263 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:11:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:11:03 -0400 From: JumboR@aol.com Message-ID: <960417011101_515611134@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup 760 suddenly refuses to see disks Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Anyone ever had this problem? I'm working away, loading, saving, using CD-ROM and SyQuest 105. I start to load a couple of litle patches. Look over a few minutes later, and the 760 is just sitting there, saying "now working", but nothing is happening. It's stuck, frozen. I reboot, and when it comes back, the 760 keeps saying "unformatted" for both the CD-ROM and the syQuest. But there's an SP-700 on the same chain and it's seeing everything just fine. I shut down everything, try every different combinations, try booting from a back-up floppy, still says "unformatted". I've changed SCSI id's, let the damn thing set for a half hour or so, nothing. THe odd thing is that I did nothing except start to load two little teeny patches. Anyone on the list had any similar problems? Let me know. Thanks. JumboR@aol.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 17 01:49:32 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:49:27 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:39:20 -0400 Received: from ntplx.net ([204.213.176.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 01:38:28 -0400 Received: from [204.213.179.14] (ttyc4.hartford1.dialin.ntplx.com) by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.1) id AA27634; Wed, 17 Apr 96 01:37:55 EDT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 02:38:39 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: matrix@ntplx.net (Jonathan Condit) Subject: sgroup DIRECTOR - S Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I specifically need info on it's "Director-S" internal software sequencer. How does one send program changes via midi using "Director-S" ? jon condit@synthesis one - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 17 02:43:28 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 02:43:21 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 02:32:47 -0400 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 02:31:55 -0400 Received: by relay1.geis.com (1.37.109.16/15.6) id AA052101874; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 06:17:55 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199604170617.AA052101874@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.40 ) ; Wed, 17 Apr 96 06:17:54 UTC 0000 ( from inet# ; Wed, 17 Apr 96 06:16:47 UTC 0000) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 02:18:00 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Genie-Qk-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-Genie-Qk-Id: 9386464 X-Genie-Gateway-Id: 598768 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: sgroup Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO JumboR - Can't say I've ever had the problem you're describing. Did it used to work right with the same setup? - Tommy - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 17 17:06:54 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-3>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:06:42 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id RAA00299 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:06:34 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:52:37 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:51:47 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id NAA12411; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 16:51:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199604172051.NAA12411@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup drumloops, is the concept lame? Finale! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Dave, In response to: >I make it a point to develop my own patches and samples, because >I consider this part of the art just as much as the actual playing. > >So I guess you feel about rythym as I feel about tone -- that if >one just takes it for granted, than part of the creative process >is being ignored. It's not always this way (hey, I use some >presets myself, just not all the damn time), but the thing about >prepackaged anything is that everyone else has it too, and if >everyone decides it's cool and decides to use it, then it quickly >becomes a cliche, and a couple of years later everything that's >ever been done with it sounds stale. Dave not surprisingly I agree with you about coming up with one's own tones too. I have found that one of the best ways to come up with your own sounds is to play packaged sounds at different pitches and/or run them through effects. The latter is difficult with the S-760, becuase the unit does not sample while play (a feature I would have killed for!). My strong hesitantcy to use pre-made commercial drum loops is a consequence of the fact that sounds are placed rythmically (arranged). At that point I personally can not call that my music. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that someone else can't make good legitamite music with drum loops. To the S-group responses I must say thank you, your viewpoints have changed my understanding of the uses of drum loops. Chris Kirkham clkirkham@ucdavis.edu - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 17 17:25:45 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:25:39 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:07:53 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:06:29 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id OAA15510; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:01:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199604172101.OAA15510@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup 760 suddenly refuses to see disks Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I just had that problem with another SCSI device last night. Take apart the SCSI cords and hook them all up again. That fixed my problem! At 01:11 AM 4/17/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Anyone ever had this problem? > >I'm working away, loading, saving, using CD-ROM and SyQuest 105. I start to >load a couple of litle patches. Look over a few minutes later, and the 760 >is just sitting there, saying "now working", but nothing is happening. It's >stuck, frozen. >I reboot, and when it comes back, the 760 keeps saying "unformatted" for both >the CD-ROM and the syQuest. But there's an SP-700 on the same chain and it's >seeing everything just fine. >I shut down everything, try every different combinations, try booting from a >back-up floppy, still says "unformatted". I've changed SCSI id's, let the >damn thing set for a half hour or so, nothing. THe odd thing is that I did >nothing except start to load two little teeny patches. > >Anyone on the list had any similar problems? > >Let me know. > >Thanks. > >JumboR@aol.com Chris Kirkham clkirkham@ucdavis.edu - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 17 17:42:09 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-3>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:42:02 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id RAA04271 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:41:57 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:27:53 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:26:09 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id OAA17855; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:09:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:09:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199604172109.OAA17855@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup S760 SPDIF problems Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Has anyone used their S/PDIF digital outs much on the optional expansion board on the S760? I have been recording that output on a hard disk recorder and have been getting what looks like some corruption as a result of using the output. The problem seems magnifyed if I set the system parameter for outputs to A/B>C/D (instead of C/D>C/D) on the S760. Im using a cord from radio shack that is acutally the proper impedance (75 ohm) and is gold plated and shielded. I am wondering is those ultra-expensive S/PDIF cords from Apogee electronics are any different and worth the money. Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 17 18:17:01 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 18:16:52 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 18:01:43 -0400 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:59:53 -0400 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts015p14.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.103.34]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id BAA15247; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 01:00:47 +0300 Message-ID: <3175F81B.25FB@netvision.net.il> Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 04:06:51 -0400 From: Ronen Hillel Organization: RH MIDIstudio X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, JumboR@aol.com Subject: Re: sgroup 760 suddenly refuses to see disks References: <960417011101_515611134@emout10.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R JumboR@aol.com wrote: > > Anyone ever had this problem? > > I'm working away, loading, saving, using CD-ROM and SyQuest 105. I start to > load a couple of litle patches. Look over a few minutes later, and the 760 > is just sitting there, saying "now working", but nothing is happening. It's > stuck, frozen. > I reboot, and when it comes back, the 760 keeps saying "unformatted" for both > the CD-ROM and the syQuest. But there's an SP-700 on the same chain and it's > seeing everything just fine. > I shut down everything, try every different combinations, try booting from a > back-up floppy, still says "unformatted". I've changed SCSI id's, let the > damn thing set for a half hour or so, nothing. THe odd thing is that I did > nothing except start to load two little teeny patches. > > Anyone on the list had any similar problems? > > Let me know. > > Thanks. > > JumboR@aol.com > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca your scsi cabel can,if not in order,do this. it may have damaged your system on the hard-drive. tray loding the sys from the flopy -- DONT LET THE SUN GO DOUN ON ME. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Apr 17 20:39:41 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 20:39:36 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 20:26:23 -0400 Received: from huey.disney.com ([204.128.192.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 20:25:46 -0400 Received: from ford.wdi.disney.com. (ford.wdi.disney.com [139.104.100.2]) by huey.disney.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03364 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wdigl000.is.wdi.disney.com by ford.wdi.disney.com. with SMTP id AA00161 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.3 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:22:43 -0700 Received: by wdigl000.is.wdi.disney.com with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.0.837.3) id <01BB2C83.3D0953E0@wdigl000.is.wdi.disney.com>; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:28:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Petitt, Steve D." To: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: sgroup convert .wav to roland Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 20:28:04 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 Encoding: 9 TEXT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Could someone enlighten me as to how to convert .wav files directly to a format that is readable in my S-550? I know that I could play the .wav file and connect the output of my (cheesy) sound card directly into the sampler and 'record' the sample. Is there a better way to do this? I have the sdisk program (thanks again Nic!) but I guess I need a utility to convert the .wav part of this file. As usual, thanks for the help that all of you ALWAYS give. Steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 18 02:13:55 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 02:13:46 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 02:01:25 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 02:00:35 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA00500; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 07:59:10 -0200 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 05:59:09 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: "Petitt, Steve D." cc: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: Re: sgroup convert .wav to roland In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R There is a way to do this and it is called 'Midi Sample Dump'. There is quite a few shareware and commercial packages that does this. Is there anyone using (ON PC) a package called ReCycle? I have spoken to Steinberg twice and have not had an answer from them. It is a pity that such a good sampler gets such low focus in the commercial market though. SoundForge (Sonic Foundry) can also NOT give me an answer of when the SoundForge build will be ready for the S760 (SCSI TRANSFERS), the answer I got out of them made me think that it could take years before the package is ready (and by then I have got the later ROLAND sampler that they don't support:) Thank you Aubrey On Wed, 17 Apr 1996, Petitt, Steve D. wrote: > Could someone enlighten me as to how to convert .wav files directly to a > format that is readable in my S-550? I know that I could play the .wav > file and connect the output of my (cheesy) sound card directly into the > sampler and 'record' the sample. Is there a better way to do this? I > have the sdisk program (thanks again Nic!) but I guess I need a utility > to convert the .wav part of this file. As usual, thanks for the help > that all of you ALWAYS give. > > Steve > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 19 19:23:39 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88180-2>; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:23:33 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id TAA29770 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:23:27 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:07:45 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:06:55 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id QAA15485; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 16:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:06:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199604192306.QAA15485@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup LCD burn-in Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R S760 users: Im wondering if by using the monitor/mouse function, will the LCD image projected during its use burn into the LCD display? Should one darken or brighten the contrast to aviod burn-in? Or do LCDs behave differently than CRTs when it comes to burn-in? Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 19 19:52:20 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88179-2>; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:52:08 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:41:28 -0400 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 19:40:54 -0400 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts016p3.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.103.41]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id CAA22319 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 02:41:41 +0300 Message-ID: <3178B2CC.2AFA@netvision.net.il> Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 05:47:56 -0400 From: Ronen Hillel Organization: RH MIDIstudio X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup time strach & BPM. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R HI when using a loop i have to make tempo changes ,and when its a loop whith a distinktiv tone (bass,git....) small fin tunes dont sound good,OBVIESLY. what is the equesion for timestraching by exect BPM steps ? -- DONT LET THE SUN GO DOUN ON ME. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 20 23:12:14 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 23:12:08 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:58:00 -0400 Received: from graf.cc.emory.edu ([170.140.1.44]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:56:53 -0400 Received: from anx50-31.dialup.emory.edu (anx50-31.dialup.emory.edu [170.140.250.31]) by graf.cc.emory.edu (8.7.3/8.6.9-950630.01osg-itd.null) with SMTP id WAA22274 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:54:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3179C0C5.2ED5@emory.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:59:49 -0400 From: Joshua Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup W-30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Please, someone tell me why the W-30 has no net presence? I have space on a server and can set up a www page from which software etc can be accessed, please, whoever has info on the w-30, email back. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Apr 21 11:44:09 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:43:59 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id LAA23093 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:43:58 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:31:23 -0400 Received: from eraser.magpage.com ([204.179.92.49]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:30:24 -0400 Received: from modem013.magpage.com by eraser.magpage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA27326; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:28:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:28:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199604211528.LAA27326@eraser.magpage.com> X-Sender: borg@magpage.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: borg@magpage.com Subject: Re: sgroup W-30 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Please, someone tell me why the W-30 has no net presence? 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Has anybody used a Jaz drive with their S-760? richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 809-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 809-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 23 16:49:54 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88180-3>; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 16:49:47 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 16:36:51 -0400 Received: from desiree.teleport.com ([192.108.254.21]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 16:36:01 -0400 Received: from [206.163.121.186] (ip-pdx07-58.teleport.com [206.163.121.186]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00933 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 13:35:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: arcana@mail.teleport.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 17:35:47 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Violet Arcana Subject: sgroup portamento on the S-760? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Could someone please let me know if the S-760 has portamento and if so, does it have constant time and constant rate? -david ___________________________________________________________________________ dreamy, ethereal, moody, ambient soundscapes for the surreal music listener http://www.teleport.com/~arcana join the Violet Arcana email list (email:arcana@teleport.com) ___________________________________________________________________________ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 23 18:18:02 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88203-2>; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 18:17:55 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 18:08:38 -0400 Received: from charlie.rz.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.21.79]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 18:08:04 -0400 Received: from mars (actually dialin003.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by charlie.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 24 Apr 1996 00:07:52 +0200 Message-ID: <317D54C1.7044@stud.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 18:08:01 -0400 From: Mickey Organization: JWG Uni Frankfurt X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup LCD burn-in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Chris Kirkham wrote: > > S760 users: Im wondering if by using the monitor/mouse function, will the > LCD image projected during its use burn into the LCD display? Should one > darken or brighten the contrast to aviod burn-in? Or do LCDs behave > differently than CRTs when it comes to burn-in? Hi Chris. LCD is an abb. for Liquid Crystal Display, that means crystal which 'swim' in a liquid are electrically turned on/off. They cannot 'burn in' cause theres nothing where they could burn in. Physicians: Please flame or agree! Regards, -=========================================- - Michael 'Mickey' Lauer - - -=========================================- - SMTP: mlauer@stud.uni-frankfurt.de - - HTTP: //www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~mlauer - -=========================================- -using Roland, Yamaha, Emu, Ensoniq & Korg- -=========================================- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 23 23:49:53 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88203-2>; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 23:49:46 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 23:39:03 -0400 Received: from acs3.bu.edu ([128.197.153.30]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 23:38:28 -0400 Received: by acs3.bu.edu (8.6.13/BU_SmartClient-1.0) id XAA442421; Tue, 23 Apr 1996 23:36:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 23:36:57 -0400 From: jawbox@acs.bu.edu Message-Id: <199604240336.XAA442421@acs3.bu.edu> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup disk drives Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R anyone know what type of disk drives can be used in an s330? oh and BTW i figured ot that if you have a loop and divide it by the number of beats then the result can be used to plug into the formula and then used to figure out BPM's -PMA - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 25 11:44:53 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88198-2>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:44:44 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id LAA27212 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:44:39 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:28:52 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:28:03 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu (root@franc.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.183]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id QAA13391 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:38:53 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id NAA27531; Wed, 24 Apr 1996 13:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:35:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199604242035.NAA27531@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup S-700>>SDII transfer program Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone out there know of software that will convert S700 series samples to SDII files on the Mac? I know about Transfer Station from Interval, has anyone had any experience with it and are happy with it? It costs $149.00, is there anything cheaper out there? Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 25 16:03:45 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88185-3>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:03:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:51:43 -0400 Received: from mail.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:50:53 -0400 Received: from Tomtal.netvision.net.il (ts005p1.pop4a.netvision.net.il [194.90.3.93]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA28817 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 23:48:18 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:41:55 -0400 From: tomtal@NetVision.net.il Subject: Re: sgroup W-30 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R W30 Rules! Eli tomtal@netvision.net.il - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Apr 25 20:39:47 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88188-3>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 20:39:39 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA31137 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 20:39:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 20:26:43 -0400 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca ([199.185.130.34]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 25 Apr 1996 20:25:54 -0400 Received: from remote36.compusmart.ab.ca (remote36.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.131.46]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA10182 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 01:25:16 GMT Message-Id: <199604260125.BAA10182@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca Organization: World Citizen Promotions To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 01:16:30 -0400 Subject: sgroup I NEED AN S-550 UTILITY DISK!!! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Ok, this is the deal. I got an S-550 sampler at a pawn shop; I never got a system disk. . . . I found a system disk on the internet. Now, I don't have a manual so I dont know how to even sample. My guess is that I sample in the UTILITY function. If my theory is right then I need a UTILITY disk. My request is that anyone send me (email me) a UTILITY DISK. The s-550 I have is the floppy drive version. I am desperatly trying to find this damn disk!! Thank-you for your help in advance!!!!! Jeff Ward - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Apr 26 15:11:45 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88198-2>; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:11:40 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id PAA05731 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 15:11:39 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 14:55:15 -0400 Received: from ucsub.Colorado.EDU ([128.138.129.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 14:54:22 -0400 Received: (from lyk@localhost) by ucsub.Colorado.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) id MAA10345; Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:54:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 14:54:00 -0400 From: lyk@ucsub.Colorado.EDU To: wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup I NEED AN S-550 UTILITY DISK!!! In-Reply-To: <199604260125.BAA10182@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ftp the CD-5 disk from lotus.uwaterloo.ca .. It is the latest version of the utility disk for the S-550. Although it is for a CD-ROM drive or HD, you should still be able to do all the sample stuff with it..and save it to disk. BTW: how much did you buy it for? On Thu, 25 Apr 1996 wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca wrote: > > Ok, this is the deal. I got an S-550 sampler at a pawn shop; I never > got a system disk. . . . I found a system disk on the internet. Now, > I don't have a manual so I dont know how to even sample. My guess is > that I sample in the UTILITY function. If my theory is right then I > need a UTILITY disk. My request is that anyone send me (email me) a > UTILITY DISK. The s-550 I have is the floppy drive version. I am > desperatly trying to find this damn disk!! Thank-you for your help in > advance!!!!! > Jeff Ward > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 27 01:44:54 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88198-3>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 01:44:38 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 01:33:59 -0400 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca ([199.185.130.34]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 01:33:09 -0400 Received: from remote42.compusmart.ab.ca (remote78.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.131.88]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA02794 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 06:32:29 GMT Message-Id: <199604270632.GAA02794@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca Organization: World Citizen Promotions To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 06:23:49 -0400 Subject: sgroup Can I use any mouse with my S-550? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I guess the Subject said it all. . . . . . Well, can I? Can I use any mouse that has the same port as the port on the sampler? or do i have to waiste my money sending away for a Roland mouse in Japan? hmmmm, Also I'm looking for a TR-909. JEFF K. WARD --------- World Citizen Promotions wcp@compusmart.ab.ca www.compusmart.ab.ca/wcp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens" ~Baha'i Writings ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 27 03:26:15 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88198-1>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 03:26:07 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id DAA30680 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 03:25:58 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 03:10:34 -0400 Received: from mailhost.cyberlab.ch ([193.246.252.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 03:09:41 -0400 Received: from mprisi.cyberlab.ch ([193.246.252.248]) by mailhost.cyberlab.ch (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA05157 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 09:09:50 +0100 (GMT+0100) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960427070507.006ad3bc@mailhost.cyberlab.ch> X-Sender: mprisi@mailhost.cyberlab.ch X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 03:05:07 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Marcel-Philippe Prisi Subject: Re: sgroup Can I use any mouse with my S-550? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO At 06:23 26/04/96 -0400, you wrote: > >I guess the Subject said it all. . . . . . >Well, can I? Can I use any mouse that has the same port as the port >on the sampler? or do i have to waiste my money sending away for a >Roland mouse in Japan? hmmmm, Also I'm looking for a TR-909. > >JEFF K. WARD >--------- >World Citizen Promotions >wcp@compusmart.ab.ca > >www.compusmart.ab.ca/wcp > I think I once had a friend who used his Atari ST mouse on his S-330 ... It worked perfectly well ... perhaps look in that direction (try to borrow one from a friend before buying one ;) ) Hope this helps CU M. Prisi mprisi@cyberlab.ch - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 27 08:51:15 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88188-1>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 08:51:05 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 08:24:16 -0400 Received: from ns.hicom.net ([204.249.216.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <39>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 08:23:24 -0400 Received: from hicom.net (gcmp.hicom.net [204.249.216.94]) by ns.hicom.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA15075 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 08:23:11 -0400 From: gcmp@hicom.net (Robin Hood) Reply-To: gcm@ns.hicom.net To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (SGroup) Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 04:23:15 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: YAM 1.2 by Marcel Beck Subject: sgroup samples Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Anyone want to trade 3rd party sample disks for the s50 or s550 leave me mail......here or at gcm@ns.hicom.net - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 27 13:26:14 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88198-3>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:26:01 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id NAA07092 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:25:53 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:05:01 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:04:08 -0400 Received: from [38.12.221.88] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id NAA06845; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:03:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199604271703.NAA06845@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup samples Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 06:06:32 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts To: "sgroup" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >Anyone want to trade 3rd party sample disks for the s50 or s550 >leave me mail......here or at gcm@ns.hicom.net You mean, "steal" 3rd party sample disks, right? Sorry for my rude tone here, but since many sound developers read this newsgroup, why not respect us and not post solicitations to steal our work in public? Thanks, jeremy ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 27 17:49:29 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88184-1>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:49:26 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:35:02 -0400 Received: from smtp2.interramp.com ([38.8.200.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <39>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:34:11 -0400 Received: from [38.12.221.207] by smtp2.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id RAA05854; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:33:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199604272133.RAA05854@smtp2.interramp.com> Subject: Re: sgroup samples Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 10:36:31 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >From: gcmp, gcmp@hicom.net >second companies like you have been selling pd stuff for >years,... third of all get a real job dude "selling pd stuff" ???? please explain.... i honestly do not understand what you're referring to... I can assure you that 100% of the sampleheads libraries are newly recorded material. Not lifted from an album or outtakes, etc... 100% recorded specifically for use in samplers. Nothing less. I wrote the checks. Believe me! As for my so-called job, I'm the music supervisor for 3 broadway musicals, an animated project for warner brothers and musical director/conductor for Linda Eder... I make a good living without SAMPLEHEADS. My partners and I do SAMPLEHEADS for fun. If people steal our work, we will stop making products. period. JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Apr 27 21:20:47 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88184-1>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:20:41 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:04:01 -0400 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.41]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <39>; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:03:11 -0400 Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA22049 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:02:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:02:49 -0400 From: MatteBlack@aol.com Message-ID: <960427210249_523382242@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup samples Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO >Anyone want to trade 3rd party sample disks for the s50 or s550 >leave me mail......here or at gcm@ns.hicom.net Are you asking if I would like to illegally duplicate and distribute copyrighted software with you? I don't think so. Matt Patchman Music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Apr 28 17:08:37 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88185-2>; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:08:27 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id RAA32746 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:08:23 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:49:53 -0400 Received: from mailhub.hkstar.com ([202.82.0.38]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 16:48:29 -0400 Received: from 202.82.52.46 (moon46.hkstar.com [202.82.52.46]) by mailhub.hkstar.com (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA08324 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:48:14 +0800 (HKT) Message-ID: <3183CB90.11BE@hkstar.com> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 15:48:32 -0400 From: Ian Tung Reply-To: iantung@hkstar.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S770 OS2.24 help? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi! Did anybody know how to get use the file "S770_OS_224" from our FTP on S750 sampler? I can load and decode the file, but as mention on the read me file. I'll need "Dart" to copy the file to a S770's formatted disk for using it. But i have no way to decode the "Dart" file. Is there any other way to get system 2.24 or there's another OS is newer than this? Thanks! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 03:57:27 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88184-1>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:57:15 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:45:59 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:44:55 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00757; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:43:19 -0200 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:43:19 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Jeremy Roberts cc: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup samples In-Reply-To: <199604271703.NAA06845@smtp1.interramp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO WOW, Jeremy!!! Are you from sampleheads? WHY IS IT that in your links of places to go, there is no links to other sample sites? Could it be (Please note - I am only asking) that your samples from sampleheads SUCK so badly that you can't stand the competition? Well over and done with that... NOW FOR THE BIG ONE!!! If you at sampleheads (Who advertise on this list without my consent!) have a look at the mail from GCM, you will see that he is willing to trade. That means in my book (If I look at my copyright agreement) that the original disks come to me for some of my original disks. NOTHING WRONG IN THAT! Now, if you can not give an active contribution, but for your SHIT add's, get the HELL off this list. ain't it a shame? Aubrey Kloppers South Africa On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Jeremy Roberts wrote: > >Anyone want to trade 3rd party sample disks for the s50 or s550 > >leave me mail......here or at gcm@ns.hicom.net > > You mean, "steal" 3rd party sample disks, right? > > Sorry for my rude tone here, but since many sound developers read this > newsgroup, why not respect us and not post solicitations to steal our > work in public? > > Thanks, > > jeremy > > > > ****************************** > * Jeremy Roberts * > * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * > * http://www.sampleheads.com * > ****************************** > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 04:12:58 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:12:53 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:57:12 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <39>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 03:45:36 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00762; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:45:00 -0200 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 07:44:59 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Jeremy Roberts cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup samples In-Reply-To: <199604272133.RAA05854@smtp2.interramp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO JEREMY, WHY DON'T you get the F*CK off this list!!! Stop waisting my bandwidth!!! On Sat, 27 Apr 1996, Jeremy Roberts wrote: > >From: gcmp, gcmp@hicom.net > > >second companies like you have been selling pd stuff for > >years,... third of all get a real job dude > > "selling pd stuff" ???? > > please explain.... i honestly do not understand what you're referring > to... > > I can assure you that 100% of the sampleheads libraries are newly > recorded material. Not lifted from an album or outtakes, etc... 100% > recorded specifically for use in samplers. Nothing less. I wrote the > checks. Believe me! > > As for my so-called job, I'm the music supervisor for 3 broadway > musicals, an animated project for warner brothers and musical > director/conductor for Linda Eder... I make a good living without > SAMPLEHEADS. My partners and I do SAMPLEHEADS for fun. If people steal > our work, we will stop making products. period. > > JR > > > ****************************** > * Jeremy Roberts * > * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * > * http://www.sampleheads.com * > ****************************** > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From aloft.att.com!wbf Mon Apr 29 09:37:31 1996 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:37:22 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA18535; Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:29:55 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: jeremy@sampleheads.com, jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca, kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA16478; Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:32:28 EDT Received: from acropolis by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA07052; Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:32:35 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA16468; Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:32:33 EDT Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:32:33 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9604291332.AA16468@acropolis> Original-To: sampleheads.com!jeremy, watdragon.uwaterloo.ca!jmsellens, net3.sbic.co.za!kloppers Subject: Re: sgroup samples Status: RO This is NOT how I wanted to start my week... Dear Aubrey, As a new sgroup member, you probably don't know this, but as a long-time sgroup member, please let me assure you that I cannot recall anybody ever using such foul language aimed at another member of this list. Nor can I recall any post being less constructive than the ones you aimed at Jeremy. I am very embarrassed for you. The purpose of this list is to offer each other support. To that end, this group, among other activities, can trade samples via the ftp site which contains the Roland Sound Library (which Roland provided free for the copying to purchasers of their samplers) and members' original contributions. The theft of third party samples is neither encouraged nor condoned. I perceive a possible, but not confirmed, breakdown in communication. (A reality in this text-based email forum.) Somebody, I don't remember who, wanted to trade samples. I will not assume that this person meant theft of third party sounds. If that was his intention, then I rightfully ignored his request. If that wasn't his intention, maybe he ought to clarify his request. He should choose his words more carefully because Jeremy, and others, believed his request to mean theft of commercially available product. Jeremy's reaction to this was, in my opinion, proper and well measured. But in this text-based email forum, his response could possibly be taken as more inflammatory than intended, another example of a situation where well chosen words could have lessened the possibility of public flame wars. You and Jeremy either disagree on copying or have made two different interpretations of the original poster's request. Unfortunately, flaming each other will probably prevent the two of you from discovering this and resolving your discord. People of sgroup should be civil to each other, if not sensitive to each other's situations. Copying of commercial product is not a valid function of sgroup. And clarity can never hurt your postings. If you must flame somebody, private email is probably better than using sgroup's bandwidth. Tact and grace matter! Respectfully yours, Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com Copies to: John Sellens - list administrator Jeremy Roberts From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 09:48:23 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:48:18 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:35:53 -0400 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:34:59 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA18854; Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:30:25 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA16566; Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:32:57 EDT Received: from acropolis by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA07065; Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:33:05 EDT Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA16473; Mon, 29 Apr 96 09:33:04 EDT Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 09:33:04 -0400 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9604291333.AA16473@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: sgroup Alternate Mouse Hunt Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO To the person looking for mouse alternatives: Be very, very careful. As has been documented in this bandwidth, a non-Roland mouse can, and has, blown fuses that require a service call for your unit. Respectfully yours, Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com "My sig is probably more concise than yours!" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 01:06:49 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 01:06:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <166>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:54:46 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:53:37 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88159-2>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:53:32 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup samples Message-Id: <96Apr30.005332edt.88159-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:53:18 -0400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 04:12:58 1996 | From: Aubrey | To: Jeremy Roberts | cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca | Subject: Re: sgroup samples | | JEREMY, WHY DON'T you get the F*CK off this list!!! Stop waisting my | bandwidth!!! I have suggested to Aubrey that he is out of line, and that this kind of thing is not appropriate for the sgroup mailing list. If it continues, I will do something appropriate. I have not yet seen anything that I feel is inappropriate in any of Jeremy's postings. Remember folks, we're all just trying to have fun and make music, in a nice friendly, cooperative way. Yelling and screaming and flaming is not appropriate. Sorry for the interruption. John sgroup mailing list maintainer jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 12:38:47 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:38:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:28:00 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:27:11 -0400 Received: from addie.singnet.com.sg (ts900-2511.singnet.com.sg [165.21.157.127]) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA11662; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 00:23:25 +0800 (SST) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:23:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199604291623.AAA11662@merlion.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Aubrey , Jeremy Roberts From: bangg@singnet.com.sg (Benjamin Ang) Subject: Re: sgroup samples Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I don't even _know_ who Jeremy is, but this exchange is getting quite unpleasant. 1. Jeremy didn't use any foul language, so I believe there's no need to use foul language to reply to him. 2. I understand that Jeremy has been posting info about his samples with the consent of several members of this list. Last time I looked, many more members of this list were in favour of this kind of posting than not. 3. If Jeremy and co created and/or compiled their sample disks, they own the copyright in the samples and/or the compilations. Any copying of the samples without their consent would amount to breach of their copyright. Purchasers only own the actual disks, not the samples on them. Purchasers are given the right to use the samples under the copyright agreement, but not to make copies of them for eg 'trading'. 4. Some people upload their samples for free, others sell their samples. I would like to respect the rights of both these groups of people. I hope we won't be 'waisting' (sic) any more bandwith with this. Benjamin Ang At 07:44 AM 4/29/96 -0400, Aubrey wrote: > >JEREMY, WHY DON'T you get the F*CK off this list!!! Stop waisting my >bandwidth!!! > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B E N J A M I N A N G location: Singapore new e-mail address: bangg@singnet.com.sg EML homepage address: http://www.singnet.com.sg/~bangg/eml.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 14:36:07 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:35:58 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:25:35 -0400 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:24:58 -0400 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id LAA15180; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 11:24:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:24:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199604291824.LAA15180@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup samples Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO sgroup, I must concurr with Benjamin Ang on this nastyness towards Jerremy and Sampleheads. Lets try to understand Jerremy again, or any sound developer. I bet there is a lot of illegal sound copying going on out there (just like audio cds of bands). Therefore I bet that developers aren't as compensated as they should be. I am understanding if Jeremmy is immediately defensive about any topic concerning trading, especially if his involvement with Sampleheads is a somewhat non-profit type thing. I support any person who produces any product for the roland s-series. Keep it up! Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 15:51:49 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:51:39 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id PAA26263 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:51:34 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <137>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:41:50 -0400 Received: from bernie.compusmart.ab.ca ([199.185.130.34]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:43:53 -0400 Received: from remote57.compusmart.ab.ca (remote57.compusmart.ab.ca [199.185.131.67]) by bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA05982 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 17:43:03 GMT Message-Id: <199604291743.RAA05982@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 17:33:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup Where is my S550 file? X-Confirm-Reading-To: wcp@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO SGROUP, Pleae help me, I just got this sampler, and I am still learning it. I sampled one thing (clap) into I11, then I sampled a breakbeat into I12. However, in the play mode, all I can get is I11 (clap) and I can't get I12 (breakbeat). If I move to I12, it is still the clap; when I move to any number it is still a clap. Nevertheless, I saved the files on disk; shut off the machine, and booted it up again. The same thing, no breakbeat! but lots of claps (in every patch #). I went to the utility/loop function and there was the breakbeat and the clap. the clap was in I11s and the breakbeat was in I12s. They were both recorded in bank A. How can I get the breakbeat in I12? I really need a manual. Thanks for your time, Jeff k Ward - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 16:13:33 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:13:22 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <138>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:59:56 -0400 Received: from ux5.cso.uiuc.edu ([128.174.5.45]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:59:00 -0400 Received: (from j-buser@localhost) by ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA15875; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:58:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:58:41 -0400 From: colecovision X-Sender: j-buser@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup FS: DJ70 /WTB: S-760 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO im looking to sell my dj70 sampling workstation. im looking to buy a roland s760 sampler. im also new to this list, so hello everyone! roland samplers are wonderful! jack buser | | | electrical engineering | | | university of illinois / | \ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 16:39:18 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:39:08 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id QAA11949 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:39:03 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:26:21 -0400 Received: from ucsub.Colorado.EDU ([128.138.129.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:25:16 -0400 Received: (from lyk@localhost) by ucsub.Colorado.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) id OAA22249; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:24:36 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:24:36 -0400 From: lyk@ucsub.colorado.edu To: wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Where is my S550 file? In-Reply-To: <199604291743.RAA05982@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Well you have to map the samples to which keys your want it to be played back first.. Go to the edit menu, then select split...pick the preset you want it to be on, then go down and select what sounds you want, then just press the key you want it to be played on. select a different sound and do the same thing. On Sun, 28 Apr 1996 wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca wrote: > SGROUP, > Pleae help me, I just got this sampler, and I am still learning it. > > I sampled one thing (clap) into I11, then I sampled > a breakbeat into I12. However, in the play mode, all I can get is I11 > (clap) and I can't get I12 (breakbeat). If I move to I12, it is still > the clap; when I move to any number it is still a clap. > Nevertheless, I saved the files on disk; shut off the > machine, and booted it up again. The same thing, no breakbeat! but > lots of claps (in every patch #). I went to the utility/loop function > and there was the breakbeat and the clap. the clap was in I11s and the > breakbeat was in I12s. They were both recorded in bank A. How can I > get the breakbeat in I12? I really need a manual. > > Thanks for your time, > > Jeff k Ward > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 18:34:26 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:34:21 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id SAA19981 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:34:19 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:20:08 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:19:17 -0400 Received: from ns.hicom.net (root@ns.hicom.net [204.249.216.2]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id SAA30779 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:18:09 -0400 Received: from hicom.net (gcmp.hicom.net [204.249.216.94]) by ns.hicom.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA28166 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:12:50 -0400 From: gcmp@hicom.net (Robin Hood) Reply-To: gcm@ns.hicom.net To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (SGroup) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 14:12:57 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: YAM 1.2 by Marcel Beck Subject: sgroup Chill Dudes. Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO OK First off this is in response to the war I seemed to Unwillingly started ......well take a pill all...first thing sampleheads Im sure is a fine company im not debating that...but good companies have abandoned the 12 bit samplers over the years and i still use one. So I like to open trading of these now PUBLIC DOMAIN ,since there are no right holders anymore, Sample Disks. Second I dont think here is the place for free advertizing for a company..third this is a free area for a free exchange of creativity third party and pd stuff is what we are trading...if you made it or there are no right holders than its pd... forth this is what is wrong with these dweebs who think all they have to do is make easy money and they are set...well get a real job and keep the internet free...Im sick of these Starch Republicans who think they rule my world. well they dont and never will...I hope Your Head Explodes. As for the rest of the free world Ill be opening a site for the FREE exchange of software for the roland samplers .. so please stop the war get on with your lives and grow up.............. GCM P.s. SampleHead....Bite Me. you RightWinger......... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Apr 29 20:08:58 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:08:44 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA04716 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:08:36 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <162>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:55:02 -0400 Received: from server1.deltanet.com ([199.171.190.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 19:54:08 -0400 Received: from delta1.deltanet.com by server1.deltanet.com (5.65/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id AA26465 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Mon, 29 Apr 96 16:53:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:40:15 -0400 From: Mike McKinnon To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Need a SCSI system disk image for W-30.. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Can anyone point me in the general direction of one of these? thanks, Mike McKinnon mckinnon@deltanet.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 03:44:42 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 03:44:38 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id DAA28894 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 03:44:36 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 03:31:57 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 03:31:01 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01560; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:29:01 -0200 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:28:58 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Robin Hood cc: SGroup Subject: Re: sgroup Chill Dudes. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R We don't call them republicans, but 'nazi scum' in my country... :) On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Robin Hood wrote: > OK First off this is in response to the war I seemed to Unwillingly started > ......well take a pill all...first thing sampleheads Im sure is a fine > company im not debating that...but good companies have abandoned the 12 bit > samplers over the years and i still use one. So I like to open trading of > these now PUBLIC DOMAIN ,since there are no right holders anymore, Sample > Disks. Second I dont think here is the place for free advertizing for a > company..third this is a free area for a free exchange of creativity > third party and pd stuff is what we are trading...if you made it or there are no right holders > than its pd... forth this is what is wrong with these dweebs who think all > they have to do is make easy money and they are set...well get a real job > and keep the internet free...Im sick of these Starch Republicans who think > they rule my world. well they dont and never will...I hope Your Head > Explodes. As for the rest of the free world Ill be opening a site for the > FREE exchange of software for the roland samplers .. so please stop the war > get on with your lives and grow up.............. > GCM > > > > P.s. SampleHead....Bite Me. > you RightWinger......... > > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 04:50:44 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:50:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <170>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:38:29 -0400 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:37:39 -0400 Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA01607; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:37:08 -0200 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:37:07 -0400 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Roland Subject: sgroup Open my mouth and the shoe fit... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Please note: This is an official appoligy to Jeremy, who I have spoken to in an un-civil and un-gentelman like way. No excuses, I am and was in the wrong. Those who feel that I've offended them, by having to look in onto this childish behaviour, what can I say. I do not want to make enemies on this list and I hope that my humble approuch will wipe this off the points system. Aubrey Kloppers South Africa ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 09:23:27 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:23:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <171>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:13:23 -0400 Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net ([204.214.4.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:12:33 -0400 Received: from max7-135.HiWAAY.net by fly.HiWAAY.net; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/21Sep95-1003PM) id AA24093; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:12:14 -0500 Message-Id: <9604301312.AA24093@fly.HiWAAY.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:15:38 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cornutt@hiwaay.net (David K. Cornutt) Subject: sgroup Enough is Enough Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Now where shall I start? How about here: Robin Hood writes: >but good companies have abandoned the 12 bit >samplers over the years and i still use one. So I like to open trading of >these now PUBLIC DOMAIN ,since there are no right holders anymore, Sample >Disks. Oh, so they're now public domain on *your* say-so? Last time I checked, an artist didn't lose copyright in a work just because the work is not currently in publication. Robin Hood still, going from bad to worse: >and keep the internet free...Im sick of these Starch Republicans who think >they rule my world. well they dont and never will...I hope Your Head >Explodes. And the following gem from Aubrey: < We don't call them republicans, but 'nazi scum' in my ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:01:50 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <180>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:51:50 -0400 Received: from ac1.actx.edu ([192.120.247.253]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 09:51:00 -0400 Received: from pcad-ml.actx.edu by ac1.actx.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA22911; Tue, 30 Apr 96 08:50:14 -0500 Received: from SAS/MAILQUEUE by PCAD-ML.ACTX.EDU (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 30 Apr 96 8:52:12 GMT-6 Received: from MAILQUEUE by SAS (Mercury 1.13); Tue, 30 Apr 96 8:52:10 GMT-6 From: "Lu Ann Lane" Organization: Amarillo College PCAD-ML To: wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca, lyk@ucsub.colorado.edu Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 10:52:09 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup Where is my S550 file? Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-Id: <3977F691BCD@PCAD-ML.ACTX.EDU> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I'd just like to add to your reply one hint. I don't know if the S550 is like the S50 in this way, but on the S50, you have to press each key TWICE when assigning the tones. Hope that helps. Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 16:24:36 -0400 From: lyk@ucsub.colorado.edu To: wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Where is my S550 file? Well you have to map the samples to which keys your want it to be played back first.. Go to the edit menu, then select split...pick the preset you want it to be on, then go down and select what sounds you want, then just press the key you want it to be played on. select a different sound and do the same thing. On Sun, 28 Apr 1996 wcp@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca wrote: > SGROUP, > Pleae help me, I just got this sampler, and I am still learning it. > > I sampled one thing (clap) into I11, then I sampled > a breakbeat into I12. However, in the play mode, all I can get is I11 > (clap) and I can't get I12 (breakbeat). If I move to I12, it is still > the clap; when I move to any number it is still a clap. > Nevertheless, I saved the files on disk; shut off the > machine, and booted it up again. The same thing, no breakbeat! but > lots of claps (in every patch #). I went to the utility/loop function > and there was the breakbeat and the clap. the clap was in I11s and the > breakbeat was in I12s. They were both recorded in bank A. How can I > get the breakbeat in I12? I really need a manual. > > Thanks for your time, > > Jeff k Ward > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Lu Ann Lane Music Lab Supervisor/Staff Accompanist Amarillo College P.O. Box 447 Amarillo, TX 79178 (806) 371-5357 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 11:43:04 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:42:51 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <182>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:33:40 -0400 Received: from aurora.cwu.edu ([198.104.65.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:32:51 -0400 Received: from crater.cwu.edu (SYSTEM@crater.cwu.edu) by AURORA.CWU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #11216) id <01I45A05QIS0000OAT@AURORA.CWU.EDU> for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.104.111.39] ("port 1666"@lewis.lib.cwu.edu) by cluster.cwu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #11216) id <01I459YO78LS90N1UW@cluster.cwu.edu> for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:35:13 -0400 From: lewisg@cwu.edu (Gary Lewis) Subject: sgroup THE WAR X-Sender: lewisg@clustera.cwu.edu To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01I459YOJHAQ90N1UW@cluster.cwu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Benjamin, Thanks for your call for civility. Aubry, we now know that you are passionate. You are entitled to your opinion, but please spare us the foul language. If I want to hear someone talk like that, I can go to a locker room or truck stop any time. I suggest that you try being articulate instead of vulgar. You can make your point much better with the former than the latter. Gary ............................................................................. Dr. Gary A. Lewis, Dean Library and Media Services Central Washington University LEWISG@CWU.EDU / 509-963-1901, FAX 509-963-3684 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 12:57:32 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:57:24 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <183>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:42:14 -0400 Received: from services ([168.166.0.67]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:41:01 -0400 Received: from ofagen.state.mo.us by services (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA17649; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 11:43:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199604301643.LAA17649@services> Comments: Authenticated sender is Illegal-Object: Syntax error in From: address found on lotus.uwaterloo.ca: From: "Otto Fajen" ^-illegal end of route address, missing end of mailbox From: To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 07:43:49 -0400 Subject: sgroup david's leaving Reply-to: ofajen@services.state.mo.us Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R sorry to reply to the whole list here, but somehow i lost david's message about signing off. david: it's your call, of course, to leave the list. there is a price to leaving that you may not want to pay just to be righteously indignant and offended by the recent off-topic flames. in other words, in my case, i wouldn't leave the sgroup list just because of some silly stuff, even if directed at me. that's because my music is more important than saving face on this list, and this list is sometimes of value to me and sometimes i help people learn to use the s series machines better. if the list has value to you, it'd be a shame for you to lose that just because you feel someone insulted you. just a thought, otto - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 19:05:11 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:05:00 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:53:32 -0400 Received: from dash.com ([198.199.232.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:52:43 -0400 Received: from dash2p4.dash.com (dash2p4.dash.com [198.199.231.53]) by dash.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA08898 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:49:08 -0600 Received: by dash2p4.dash.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB36B5.00401200@dash2p4.dash.com>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 16:49:30 -0600 Message-ID: <01BB36B5.00401200@dash2p4.dash.com> From: Rocker Bob To: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: RE: sgroup samples Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:48:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Wow, Aubrey!! Are you a serious shithead or what? Who needs your = consent to do anything? And speaking of active contributions, where are = yours? To the rest of the group: Sorry to come out of lurking with a message = like this, but some people's children! Keith ---------- From: Aubrey[SMTP:kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za] Sent: Monday, April 29, 1996 5:43 AM To: Jeremy Roberts Cc: sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup samples WOW, Jeremy!!! Are you from sampleheads? WHY IS IT that in your links=20 of places to go, there is no links to other sample sites? Could it be=20 (Please note - I am only asking) that your samples from sampleheads SUCK = so badly that you can't stand the competition? Well over and done with=20 that... NOW FOR THE BIG ONE!!! If you at sampleheads (Who advertise on this list without my consent!)=20 have a look at the mail from GCM, you will see that he is willing to=20 trade. That means in my book (If I look at my copyright agreement) that = the original disks come to me for some of my original disks. NOTHING=20 WRONG IN THAT! Now, if you can not give an active contribution, but for your SHIT = add's,=20 get the HELL off this list. =20 ain't it a shame? Aubrey Kloppers South Africa - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 20:52:07 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:52:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <184>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:42:52 -0400 Received: from smtp1.interramp.com ([38.8.45.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:42:01 -0400 Received: from [38.12.221.229] by smtp1.interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-irsmtp) id UAA21547; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:41:41 -0400 Message-Id: <199605010041.UAA21547@smtp1.interramp.com> Subject: sgroup reply to the madness Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 13:44:16 -0400 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Is it me or was I just the last straw that set off this crazy rampage? I can't be responsible for the price of gasoline in southern california (it's more than $1.60/gallon right now) nor can I solve the economic problems of the world. I *can* make pretty darn good samples. So good that my products routinely get amazing reviews in all the major magazines worldwide. I have been flamed in e-mail like you wouldn't believe, yet for every piece of hate mail, I received 7 more encouraging me not to leave the sgroup list. The funny thing about all this is that since joining the list, I haven't yet posted any real commercial stuff... for whatever reasons, I have yet to post the big press releases about our new products... I have slipped a line or 2 in here or there, but I've NOT posted the "OK, buy my products" stuff yet... and I may never do that.... but it's good to know that I could... Nettiquette is a funny thing. A guy lost his job at a major hardware manufacturer because he didn't have any. I've been on-line since 1984. Yes, when some of you were still in grade school, I was actively participating on the net. I know my nettiquette. I joined the list because Jim Norman at Roland told me about it. Cool. Lots of sampler users to bounce ideas off of, get feedback, etc... so I immediately post a "hi, I'm JR...." post... and ASK the list members if it's OK for me to mention my company's work in my posts... common nettiquette says, ask first and nobody will jump on you, as long as you're cool about it... was I not cool about it? Of course I was cool about it... I kept my posts short and to the point, didn't waste bandwidth with propaganda, and was an average net citizen... Occasionally, I get the "you slimeball commercial capitalist pig money hungry union musician free market supporting tax paying employer" crap that many ultra-left (communist?) leaning (typically college students who don't pay for their internet access) will send out to anyone who needs to make a living and pay their rent... but I just ignore that crap. When the poster told me to get a real job, I questioned that, since my "day job", is as a studio musician. A successful one at that! My partners and I have not taken ten cents out of our company. We don't need to. Will's "day job" at CBS comfortably pays his rent. Chris's "day job" is composer/producer of MAJOR TV spots and library music. If you watch TV for 2 hours, you WILL hear something he's produced or composed. Enough about us... my point is that we don't do sampleheads for $. We do it because we can. Because we *can* get a Peter Erskine or a Larry Campbell. Because we know the best programmers in the industry. Because, when all is said and done, WE get to use these samples weeks or even months before anyone else. What better way to underwrite our quest for better samples for our own use than to commission a library, hire programmers to do the work, then sell just enough to break even so we can make more? I think we're pretty fortunate that we have been to do just that. Enough of all this... Anyone here call themselves masters of both the Roland 700 series AND K2000 series looking for some freelance programming work? JR ****************************** * Jeremy Roberts * * SAMPLEHEADS, INC. * * http://www.sampleheads.com * ****************************** - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 21:08:18 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:08:09 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <185>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:53:02 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:52:00 -0400 Received: from addie.singnet.com.sg (ts900-2003.singnet.com.sg [165.21.158.87]) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA32536; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:47:01 +0800 (SST) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:47:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199605010047.IAA32536@merlion.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: gcm@ns.hicom.net, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (SGroup) From: bangg@singnet.com.sg (Benjamin Ang) Subject: Re: sgroup Chill Dudes. Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Interesting ideas. Just a few things we should look out for: At 02:12 PM 4/29/96 -0400, gcm@ns.hicom.net wrote: >company im not debating that...but good companies have abandoned the 12 bit >samplers over the years and i still use one. So I like to open trading of >these now PUBLIC DOMAIN ,since there are no right holders anymore, Sample since copyright lasts for at least 50 years in most countries, it would be difficult to say if 'there are no right holders anymore'. 1. If the company still exists, then they still own the copyright. It doesnt make a difference if they have abandoned the market. Is this unfair? Consider that they expended effort in creating the samples in the first place; that's why they have the right to do with the samples as they please. 2. If the company no longer exists, the copyright may have been bought over or taken over by someone. 3. If there is really *nobody* left who wants to claim copyright, then well okay... Copyright material usually only enters the *public domain* more than 50 years after the creator's death eg old songs, books etc. >Disks. Second I dont think here is the place for free advertizing for a Freedom of speech. >company..third this is a free area for a free exchange of creativity >third party and pd stuff is what we are trading...if you made it or there are no right holders I will be happy to trade my own samples or samples which I have been expressly told are free for distribution, once I figure out how to upload. However, I want to respect the rights of hardworking people who have taken the effort to create samples and want to make a little money out of them. That sounds like a 'real job' to me. >Explodes. As for the rest of the free world Ill be opening a site for the >FREE exchange of software for the roland samplers .. so please stop the war This is a good idea, but please be careful. If people upload samples from commercial developers, then this will discourage developers from making more sample disks for Roland samplers, and more 'good companies' will abandon the S-series. Benjamin Ang ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B E N J A M I N A N G location: Singapore new e-mail address: bangg@singnet.com.sg EML homepage address: http://www.singnet.com.sg/~bangg/eml.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Apr 30 22:05:14 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:05:07 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id WAA31008 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:05:03 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <187>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:53:57 -0400 Received: from ucsub.Colorado.EDU ([128.138.129.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:52:59 -0400 Received: (from lyk@localhost) by ucsub.Colorado.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) id TAA28425; Tue, 30 Apr 1996 19:52:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 21:52:15 -0400 From: lyk@ucsub.colorado.edu To: Benjamin Ang cc: gcm@ns.hicom.net, SGroup Subject: Re: sgroup Chill Dudes. In-Reply-To: <199605010047.IAA32536@merlion.singnet.com.sg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I'm so sick of this stupi ass list... These messages are so fucking lame. On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Benjamin Ang wrote: > Interesting ideas. Just a few things we should look out for: > > At 02:12 PM 4/29/96 -0400, gcm@ns.hicom.net wrote: > >company im not debating that...but good companies have abandoned the 12 bit > >samplers over the years and i still use one. So I like to open trading of > >these now PUBLIC DOMAIN ,since there are no right holders anymore, Sample > > since copyright lasts for at least 50 years in most countries, it would be > difficult to say if 'there are no right holders anymore'. > > 1. If the company still exists, then they still own the copyright. It doesnt > make a difference if they have abandoned the market. Is this unfair? > Consider that they expended effort in creating the samples in the first > place; that's why they have the right to do with the samples as they please. > > 2. If the company no longer exists, the copyright may have been bought over > or taken over by someone. > > 3. If there is really *nobody* left who wants to claim copyright, then well > okay... > > Copyright material usually only enters the *public domain* more than 50 > years after the creator's death eg old songs, books etc. > > >Disks. Second I dont think here is the place for free advertizing for a > > Freedom of speech. > > >company..third this is a free area for a free exchange of creativity > >third party and pd stuff is what we are trading...if you made it or there > are no right holders > > I will be happy to trade my own samples or samples which I have been > expressly told are free for distribution, once I figure out how to upload. > However, I want to respect the rights of hardworking people who have taken > the effort to create samples and want to make a little money out of them. > That sounds like a 'real job' to me. > > >Explodes. As for the rest of the free world Ill be opening a site for the > >FREE exchange of software for the roland samplers .. so please stop the war > > This is a good idea, but please be careful. If people upload samples from > commercial developers, then this will discourage developers from making more > sample disks for Roland samplers, and more 'good companies' will abandon the > S-series. > > Benjamin Ang > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > B E N J A M I N A N G location: Singapore > new e-mail address: bangg@singnet.com.sg > EML homepage address: http://www.singnet.com.sg/~bangg/eml.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca