From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 2 15:19:35 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 15:19:31 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <23>; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 15:02:59 -0500 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za ([160.117.116.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 06:33:25 -0500 Received: from net3 by net3.sbic.co.za (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA00762; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 13:32:48 -0200 Message-Id: <31386A1D.20EC@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:32:45 -0500 From: A Kloppers X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Roland S760 Support Group Subject: sgroup S760 questions... Anyone there? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I have sent mail to this server over the last 2 weeks, but got no reply... I am in want of a couple of answers, and a bit of help... 1. Has anyone got release s760223 in zip format? I have got no pleasure in getting the mac file converted to S760 format :( 2. Does anyone have any close links to Roland? I would like to know how to initiate SMDI transfers to and from the S760. (Is there a ASPI homegrown driver written that needs to be loaded on my PC?) 3. I have got one of the biggest Sampeling lib's in South Africa. The routing link is very slow for USA/AU/UK users. Is there any sites available that I can upload these to for the S760 users? Thank you for your time. Aubrey Kloppers South Africa -- ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 2 23:21:54 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-2>; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:21:45 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id XAA23500 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:21:43 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:08:49 -0500 Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net ([206.85.92.49]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:07:25 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (pool010.Max11.New-York.NY.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.41.10]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA00430 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:06:15 -0800 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:06:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199603030406.UAA00430@norway.it.earthlink.net> X-Sender: hitsman@earthlink.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Michael Murray Subject: sgroup Rolland S-50 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R To whom it may concern, I just bought a used Rolland S-50 and I'm trying to download sounds to work on my sampler. I having hard time. I've downloaded the sdisk converter and put it in the same directory as an s-50 file then double clicked on the sdisk fine, it brings me to DOS and the sdisk program. Type D, then the file name as it appears in the download file. Then, default A: drive and press W. Sometimes I get a message "about a CRC problem on the diskette" or other times "cannot find the sector". Can someone help me download these files!!! I've spent hours already on it and I'm pulling my hair out!!! Micahel Murray - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 2 23:37:54 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:37:49 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:23:23 -0500 Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net ([206.85.92.49]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:21:33 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (pool010.Max11.New-York.NY.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.41.10]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA00607 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 20:08:26 -0800 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 23:08:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199603030408.UAA00607@norway.it.earthlink.net> X-Sender: hitsman@earthlink.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Michael Murray Subject: sgroup Rolland S-50 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R To whom it may concern, I just bought a used Rolland S-50 and I'm trying to download sounds to work on my sampler. I having hard time. I've downloaded the sdisk converter and put it in the same directory as an s-50 file then double clicked on the sdisk fine, it brings me to DOS and the sdisk program. Type D, then the file name as it appears in the download file. Then, default A: drive and press W. Sometimes I get a message "about a CRC problem on the diskette" or other times "cannot find the sector". Can someone help me download these files!!! I've spent hours already on it and I'm pulling my hair out!!! Micahel Murray - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 3 04:21:07 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 04:20:58 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 04:07:48 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 04:06:41 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts014p11.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.103.13]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA16932; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 12:06:43 +0200 Message-ID: <3139EF15.7045@netvision.net.il> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 14:12:21 -0500 From: ronen_h X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, Michael Murray Subject: Re: sgroup Rolland S-50 References: <199603030408.UAA00607@norway.it.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Michael Murray wrote: > > To whom it may concern, > > I just bought a used Rolland S-50 and I'm trying to download sounds to work > on my sampler. I having hard time. I've downloaded the sdisk converter and > put it in the same directory as an s-50 file then double clicked on the > sdisk fine, it brings me to DOS and the sdisk program. Type D, then the > file name as it appears in the download file. Then, default A: drive and > press W. Sometimes I get a message "about a CRC problem on the diskette" or > other times "cannot find the sector". Can someone help me download these > files!!! I've spent hours already on it and I'm pulling my hair out!!! > > Micahel Murray > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca i dont have a s-50,ut i think you have to have single density disks,normal duble side double density wont wark. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 3 13:59:04 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 13:58:52 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 13:48:06 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 13:47:17 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts012p7.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.100.225]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA04242 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 21:47:11 +0200 Message-ID: <313A7719.7922@netvision.net.il> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:52:41 -0500 From: ronen_h X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup request Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R HI all i have a s-760 ,das anyone have a sample of windchaimbs ? i know there is one on the FTP but its *.z and i can`t open it. thanks. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 3 20:56:59 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:56:56 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:44:14 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:43:24 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19513; Sun, 3 Mar 96 20:39:58 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 13a49b70; Sun, 3 Mar 96 20:39:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:16:13 -0500 Message-Id: <13a49b70@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: Re: sgroup request To: ronen_h , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R The DOS application DECOMP opens .Z files, it can be found at the SIMTEL FTP site.. MacCompress for the Macintosh does the same. Doug ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi all i have a s-760 ,das anyone have a sample of windchaimbs ? i know there is one on the FTP but its *.z and i can`t open it. thanks. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 4 00:03:51 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:03:45 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id AAA21000 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:03:35 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:48:21 -0500 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 04:28:14 -0500 Received: by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA12830; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:28:08 +1000 Message-Id: <9603031028.AA12830@wr.com.au> Subject: Re: sgroup Rolland S-50 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 05:28:07 -0500 Cc: hitsman@earthlink.net In-Reply-To: <3139EF15.7045@netvision.net.il> from "ronen_h" at Mar 3, 96 02:12:21 pm From: nic@carrot.com.au (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j} > press W. Sometimes I get a message "about a CRC problem on the diskette" or => > other times "cannot find the sector". Can someone help me download these => > files!!! I've spent hours already on it and I'm pulling my hair out!!! => > => > Micahel Murray => > => > - => > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca => > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca => => i dont have a s-50,ut i think you have to have single density => disks,normal duble side double density wont wark. Actually, you need double density for the S-50. However back to the original problem... Are you using windows 95? If so, sdisk doesn't like it very much (like it's author?) and you'll need to run it from DOS... Nic. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 4 00:27:22 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:27:18 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:04:47 -0500 Received: from nic.funet.fi ([128.214.248.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:31:02 -0500 Received: by nic.funet.fi id <1622-17084>; Sun, 3 Mar 1996 17:30:47 +0200 From: Juhana K Kouhia To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S770 samplediskfile reader available Message-Id: <96Mar3.173047+0200_eet.1622-17084+59@nic.funet.fi> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:30:43 -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi. I'm not on this mailing list; please send me a copy if you reply. A few weeks ago I requested help in figuring out the format used in S770 samplefiles named L7* found from Sgroup archives. Nic Grant mailed me some disk format, thanks. It were not a floppy disk format specification but it helped enough. First version of the program which extracts the raw sample datas out of L7* files is now available from ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/ sci/audio/instruments/devel/s770/ directory. Use it this way: ss2raw L709_1.OUT Program outputs the information datas of the file to stderr and raw sample datas to files named 1, 2, 3, etc. Multipart files comes out ok: for example, l709_1 and l709_2 outputs files 1,...,18 and 19,...,26 respectively. >From stderr ouput you may read loop points and use them if you note that only all data between and are saved. There is also but I have no info when it is valid. The major problem actually is that I know some parameters but don't know what their values means. If you need more data out of the files, then please help me. Look also s550/raw16.c for replacing already available raw8.c. raw16.c keeps all 12 bits instead of dropping four of them like raw8.c does. I recall raw8.c and raw16.c will not break the raw sampledatas to separate files and thus I will yet make that modification. You may use extracted sounds in computer programs, for example. Juhana Kouhia kouhia@nic.funet.fi - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 4 07:52:00 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-2>; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:51:57 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id HAA13046 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:51:48 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:39:01 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:38:10 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25439; Mon, 4 Mar 96 07:35:18 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 13ae3520; Mon, 4 Mar 96 07:34:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 07:29:38 -0500 Message-Id: <13ae3520@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: Re: sgroup S770 samplediskfile reader available To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, Juhana K Kouhia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Can someone expalin to me just what this program does. Same as the subject? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: sgroup S770 samplediskfile reader available Author: Juhana K Kouhia at SMTP-GW Date: 3/3/96 10:30 AM [snip] Look also s550/raw16.c for replacing already available raw8.c. raw16.c keeps all 12 bits instead of dropping four of them like raw8.c does. I recall raw8.c and raw16.c will not break the raw sampledatas to separate files and thus I will yet make that modification. You may use extracted sounds in computer programs, for example. Juhana Kouhia kouhia@nic.funet.fi - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 4 15:04:43 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-3>; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:04:36 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id PAA12599 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:04:22 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <137>; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:52:14 -0500 Received: from UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU ([138.26.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:51:24 -0500 Received: from uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu by UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 04 Mar 96 13:41:08 CST X-Sender: circ010@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Jim Willett Subject: sgroup mod players/interest Message-Id: <96Mar4.145124est.20@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:51:16 -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I'm cross posting this to the list to see if any of you are interested in or using tracker software for the creation of sound mods. I'm particulalrly interested in the Amiga Platform but also use mods on the PC. In fact, the PC mod players are generally now more advanced than the amiga but I have not seen any actual tracker recorder programs running on the PC to date. I'm hoping I might find someone curently using any of the DSS programs created by GVP for the Amiga. For those of you who are not familiar with mods-- they are a very compact way of producing digital music or sound tracks, using a "scripted" method of playing samples to create music, etc. Songs or sound events lasting several minutes can be created that can be less than a 100k, depending on the size of the samples used. The samples themselves are inlcuded in most mod files-- The MOD Page can be accessed via the net from the Amiga Web Directory-- easily found using any search engine. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 5 03:44:43 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-2>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:44:38 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id DAA16285 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:44:30 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:31:57 -0500 Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net ([158.152.1.77]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:31:00 -0500 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa25871; 5 Mar 96 8:30 GMT Received: from codemast.demon.co.uk ([158.152.22.7]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab00372; 5 Mar 96 8:25 GMT From: Richard Aplin To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup SDISK errors - CRC failures and the like Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:22:52 -0500 Reply-To: RichAp@codemast.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Message-ID: <826014364.372.1@codemast.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Michael Murray was asking about SDISK reporting errors whenever writing Roland disks on a PC. Here are the problems I found, and the solutions(?) 1) Windows '95. Cool, yes, SDISK, no. SDISK reports disk errors repeatedly when running in a W95 dos window. The solution; quit everything else, do an ALT-F4 to get the shutdown menu, and choose quit to DOS prompt. This dumps the W95 'virtual PC' business (DOS programs messing with the hardware is done via W95 - although the programs don't know it, and this seems to screw the SDISK disk routines). Should now work fine. 2) You can't use any disks that report any bad sectors when formatted via DOS. This is reported after a format; DOS can cope with it, Roland can't (and why should they have to put up with crappy disks anyway!!) 3) Ummm.. 4) That's it. (P.S. S750 upgrade idea still waiting for a free moment to persue it. I've got a girlfriend that's more interesting than a 19" black box - just :) Rich Aplin. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 5 06:57:00 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-2>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 06:56:56 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 06:47:16 -0500 Received: from kuikka.inet.fi ([192.89.123.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <138>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 06:46:25 -0500 Received: from [193.208.255.193] (user-6-39.dial.inet.fi) by kuikka.inet.fi with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA039176367; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:46:07 +0200 X-Sender: eskora-1@pop.inet.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 06:47:34 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi (Illusion Rake) Subject: sgroup mail address missing... Message-Id: <96Mar5.064625est.138@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Yo Jouni!! I lost your addresses for i changed my programs to another machine. (eli voisitko ilmoitella!!) RE ============================== Illusion Rake producer/artist ProVoice Productions Oy Lukiokatu 36 HAMEENLINNA, Finland email: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi ============================== - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 5 16:23:18 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88185-2>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:23:07 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id QAA15989 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:23:01 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <138>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:12:08 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <23>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:11:16 -0500 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id QAA10291 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:10:33 -0500 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA10060 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:07:21 -0800 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA28297 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:07:21 -0800 Received: by dudeman.corp.portal.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA00497; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:08:34 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:08:34 -0500 From: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow) Message-Id: <199603052108.NAA00497@dudeman.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup FS: S-550 (price reduction again) X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R For Sale: Price Reduction Roland S-550 Sampler with extras Roland CD-5 CD-ROM drive Universe of Sounds CD Club-40 CD Roland Sample Lib CD Roland HD-IF SCCI interface Floppy Sample Library Lots and Lots of stuff for the Roland S-550 sampler and the sampler itself. I can definitely negotiate deals for combinations of things. The reason I list them all seperately is because I have had numerous offers for individual items....so I am listing them all seperately to see what happens. For Sale: Roland S-550 Sampler Price: $600 + shipping Includes: Rack mount sampler, manuals, mouse, b/w external video monitor, roland sequencing software, State of the art sampler when I got it. Not any more...but still very useable. one of the best sample libraries ever assembled for a single sampler was that created for the S-550(see below). This is a quiet sampler(not noisy) and it produces sounds that are COMPLETELY useable for ANY project....including a Pro quality CD. Also includes external monchrome video monitor and sequencing software(that actually runs on the S-550). This sampler has a very nice GUI that you can access through the external monitor option. This enables you to use a mouse to program the thing and work with it. You don't wanna know how much I paid for this thing originally. I don't even like to think about it. Even as I sit here and re-read this add it pains me to think about selling it for this cheap. Who knows...maybe I won't. For Sale: Roland CD-5 CD-Rom drive: Price: $295 + shipping Includes: CD-Rom drive, Operating system floppy, cables, manuals Roland CD-Rom drive designed exclusively for the Roland S-550 sampler(might work with S-50 or W30....I'm not sure). This GREATLY improves the working environment for working with the S-550. You can load in programs and samples in a fraction the time it takes to load in programs from floppy. Plus you can randomly browse the library and select sounds by category. VERY VERY handy. This unit has BARELY been used. I bought it a year ago and turned it ONCE to make sure it worked(which it did) and then I have just been too busy to do ANY music, so its just been sitting there in the OFF position. We are talking MINT!!!!! For Sale: Roland Sample Library CD Price: $100 + shipping. Featuring the entire award winning Roland sample library for S-series samplers. Less than a year old and BARELY used. Contains the entire library for S-series samplers. This is one of the best libraries ever assembled for a single sampler For Sale: Roland Club-50 CD-ROM Price: $100 + shipping. A second disc of sample libraries for use with the S-series samplers by Roland. Most of these are meat and potatoe sounds like horns, pianos, basses, strings, etc... All the stuff you need for gigging, studio sessions, sequencing, etc.... As usual....Roland did a fabulous job of creating these programs. Well worth the price which is less than half what Roland was selling it for about a year ago. Hundreds of samples. For Sale: Universe of Sounds CD-ROM Price: $100 + shipping A 3rd party disc of samples for the S-series samplers. Some totally great stuff in here. The guy that put this disc together eventually started Q-Up Arts.....which is in all the current rags advetising sample libs for various different samplers. I actually went out to their shop in Santa Cruz, CA about a year ago and checked out the studio there. He showed me the setup and how he goes about making sample libs. Pretty interesting. Anyway, its also a FABULOUS collection of sounds. Lots of layered, big sounding stuff. Great stuff. I hate to give up these sounds actually....but you can't have your cake and eat it too. Paid $150 for it new about a year ago. This is hard to get too. Good stuff Maynard! For Sale: Roland HD-IF SCSI interface Price: $100 + shipping This is a HOT commodity amoungst the S-series sampler users. Everyone wants one. Roland sold out a LONG TIME AGO. I have one if you want it. Works perfectly. I have a feeling I am going to get a lot of offers for this one and so if I do....I am going to auction it off to the highest bidder. However, if someone buys the whole package...they will get precedence. Or if someone buys the entire CD-ROM setup, I will include the SCSI interface as part of a package deal. Supports the Roland CD-5 CD-Rom and several SCSI hard drives. For Sale: Sample library for S-550 ( on floppies) Price: $200 + shipping Includes: 200+ floopies with S-series library, Universe of Sounds and Outrigger productions floppies, floppy drawer/tray. A lot of blood, sweat and tears went into the collection and creation of this set of floppies. 200+ floppies featuring the entire S-Series library from Roland as well as a bunch of stuff from the Univerise of Sounds CD and stuff I bought from Outrigger Productions when they were around(including a FABULOUS hammond set). This is totally great stuff. Anyone that already owns an S-Series sampler and doesn't have this library is totally missing out. Its the BIGGEST selling point of the sampler......it's library....which has to this day been touted as one of the best libraries ever made. If you don't have SCSI, this is a GREAT collection of stuff on floppy. Turn your mediorce collection of S-550 samples into a STUDIO ready monster. I'm telling you...I have had studio people go "whoa....nice setup".... mostly because of the collection of sounds I have. These sample libraries will definitely breathe new life into your S-series sampler if you only have part of the library now. Some of the commercial disks I have include M1 samples, D-50 samples, Killer Hammonds from Outrigger Productions, Universe of Sounds stuff, and more. Lots of great stuff. Also includes floppy drawer/tray that holds entire collection Some of the Universe of Sounds stuff is totally cool. I know people with K2500's that wish they could get their mitts on some of these sounds. In fact, I dread missing them. At least 50 of the floppies are commerical 3rd party samples. Lots of great stuff. A lot of personal time by me went into creating these floppies. Every last one of them has a diskette label that was printed on a laser printer with the RSB-### number on it and even on the edge so that if you have a ton load of floppies in a drawer you can look across the tops of them to see which one is which. Looks totally professional and very convienient. -steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 5 18:11:44 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-2>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:11:35 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id SAA16096 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:11:21 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <23>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:59:37 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:58:48 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts019p3.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.103.95]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id BAA32685; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:58:40 +0200 Message-ID: <313D550C.6A7A@netvision.net.il> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 04:04:12 -0500 From: ronen_h X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, Mark A Bennett Subject: Re: sgroup request References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R TWFyayBBIEJlbm5ldHQgd3JvdGU6DQo+IA0KPiA+SEkgYWxsDQo+ID4NCj4gPmkgaGF2ZSBh IHMtNzYwICxkYXMgYW55b25lIGhhdmUgYSBzYW1wbGUgb2Ygd2luZGNoYWltYnMgPw0KPiA+ aSBrbm93IHRoZXJlIGlzIG9uZSBvbiB0aGUgRlRQIGJ1dCBpdHMgKi56IGFuZCBpIGNhbmB0 IG9wZW4gaXQuDQo+ID4NCj4gPnRoYW5rcy4NCj4gPg0KPiA+DQo+IFRoZXJlJ3Mgc29tZSBv biB0aGUgZGVtbyBjZCBpc24ndCB0aGVyZT8NCj4gDQo+IHRhDQo+IA0KPiBNYXJrLg0KPiAN Cj4gpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkDQqk pKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkDQo+ICAgIFRoZXJlIGlzIGEgdmFsdWUgaW4gbWFraW5nIG1p c3Rha2VzDQo+ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgVGhlIHRyaWNrIGlzIGZvcm1pbmcgYSBj b2hlcmVudCB3aG9sZS4NCj4gpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSk pKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkDQqkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkpKSkDQppIGRvbnQgaGF2ZSBhIGNkIGRy aXZlLGkgcHJlZmhlcmQgdG8gYnV5IGEgaGFyZC1kaXNrICg2MDApDQphdCB0aGUgdGltZSxj YW4geW91IHB1dCB0aGUgc2FtcGxlIG9uIHRoZSBmdHAoaWYgaXRzIGFsYXdlZCkuDQoqKg0K YnkgdGhlIHdheS4uLmkgaGF2ZSBhICo0c3BlZWQgY2Qgcm9tIGRyaXZlIG9uIG15IHBjICxp cyB0aGVyZSBhIHByb2dyYW0gDQp0aGF0IHdyaWRlcyBzNzYwIGNkYHMgZnJvbSBpdCA/DQoN CnRoYW5YDQo= - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 6 01:22:41 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-3>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:22:35 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id BAA21652 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:22:22 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:11:18 -0500 Received: from qli.backboard.com ([204.70.31.42]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:10:29 -0500 Received: from John Malvey ([206.26.73.21]) by qli.backboard.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA07236 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:57:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199603042257.PAA07236@qli.backboard.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Malvey" Organization: Malvey Productions To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:02:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup S700 Upload Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R FYI I just uploaded a S700 series performance to lotus. The file is "Windchimes" (someone mentioned they needed windchimes). It's in the directory: /pub/sgroup/samples/jmalvey Enjoy John - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 6 04:57:53 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-1>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 04:57:44 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id EAA21140 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 04:57:41 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 04:43:20 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 04:42:29 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts005p15.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.100.107]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA28856; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:42:32 +0200 Message-ID: <313DEBF5.7BDC@netvision.net.il> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 14:48:05 -0500 From: ronen_h X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, John Malvey Subject: Re: sgroup S700 Upload References: <199603042257.PAA07236@qli.backboard.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R John Malvey wrote: > > FYI I just uploaded a S700 series performance to lotus. > The file is "Windchimes" (someone mentioned they needed windchimes). > It's in the directory: /pub/sgroup/samples/jmalvey > > Enjoy > > John > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca thank you,i am working on an arrab menu i will soon put it on the ftp. thanX - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 6 09:46:51 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:46:45 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:36:36 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:35:44 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17894; Wed, 6 Mar 96 09:32:50 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 13d95d20; Wed, 6 Mar 96 08:40:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 08:36:32 -0500 Message-Id: <13d95d20@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: sgroup James Brown sample To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hey sampleheads... Anyone have the sample "...get up, get on up" from James Brown's "Sex Machine". I'd like it in S550 format preferably or in .wav if not. I think I recall seeing it on the sgroup groove library exchange list. Thanks Doug - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 6 19:19:52 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:19:48 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:07:25 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:06:35 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts019p16.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.103.108]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id DAA10981 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 03:06:23 +0200 Message-ID: <313EB66E.4F69@netvision.net.il> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:11:58 -0500 From: ronen_h X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup is the ftp out ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R i cant go into the ftp for several houers is it me or the ftp ? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Mar 7 00:06:51 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 00:06:40 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id AAA30255 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 00:06:34 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:55:07 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:54:09 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88159-2>; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:53:51 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: ronen_h@netvision.net.il, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup is the ftp out ? Message-Id: <96Mar6.235351est.88159-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:53:48 -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 6 19:20:12 1996 | From: ronen_h | To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca | Subject: sgroup is the ftp out ? | | i cant go into the ftp for several houers is it me or the ftp ? The ftp server on lotus seems to leave processes hanging around, and eventually they build up and I need to kill them off. It probably makes more sense to send questions about the ftp server directly to me, instead of to the entire list. John jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Mar 7 13:25:42 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:25:36 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:09:16 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <23>; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:08:25 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts015p8.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.103.28]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA28029 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:08:02 +0200 Message-ID: <313FB3F3.4671@netvision.net.il> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:13:40 -0500 From: ronen_h X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup MARHAABA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R * FROM THE GRATE SAHARRA DESERT AND THE VAST PLAINS OF BEDOOIEN LIFE HERE IS : ARRABwinds pub\sgroup\samples\ronen_h INSHALLA (-whith gods help) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 12 23:30:47 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:30:41 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:16:03 -0500 Received: from uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:14:55 -0500 Received: from [10.0.2.15] (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm) by uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12485; Tue, 12 Mar 96 23:11:07-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:16:26 -0500 To: Justin Scharvona From: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm (Richard Sven Patterson) Subject: Re: sgroup Syquest 270 meg problems Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I had responded when you first posted this. My hard drive today has started again with this problem. Today was the first time in a while I saved files to it, and when I tried to reload them, two of the four volumes I saved gave problems. Did you ever get a fix? Did many people responde to say they had the same problem? I spoke to Jim Norman at Roland today, and he said that he had heard many similar horror stories, to the point he was no longer recommending syquest 270's. What I find surprising though is that mind has had the drive replaced three times already in the past year, and I have two friends with 270's although not packaged by "MAGIC" as mine is, but they have had no problems. One is connected to the an Akai MPC3000 and the other a Kurzweil K2000S. I am wondering if it is something about The S-760 or the way if formats the cartridge which gives this recurring problems. richard sven >We have 3 samplers (2xs760,1xs750), each with its own syquest 270 >removeable drive. > >Nowadays, MEDIUM ERRORS are happening every week, mainly on disks >connected to the s760's. When these are used on the s750, it >crashes on loading certain samples. > >Has anyone got any solution to this apparent problem ? >It seems to have happened more recently, so I'm wondering if os 2.19 >upwards has started this. > >Any suggestions welcome, or we are going to buy fixed HD's. (I have one >at home and it's great!) > >----------------------------------------------- >justin@argonaut.com >----------------------------------------------- >Music Dept Leader >Argonaut Software Ltd. >70 Colindale Avenue, Colindale >London, NW9 5ER, England >Tel: +44-181-200 5777 Fax: +44-181-200 9866 >----------------------------------------------- > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 809-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 809-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 12 23:56:53 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:56:45 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:46:49 -0500 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:45:57 -0500 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA24467 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:44:32 -0800 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA13956 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:44:31 -0800 Received: by dudeman.corp.portal.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA01982; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 20:45:38 -0800 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:45:38 -0500 From: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow) Message-Id: <199603130445.UAA01982@dudeman.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup FS: Roland S-550 Sampler(reduced) X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R For Sale: Price Reduction Roland S-550 Sampler with extras Roland CD-5 CD-ROM drive Universe of Sounds CD Club-40 CD Roland Sample Lib CD Roland HD-IF SCCI interface Floppy Sample Library ( Or make me an offer for the whole package..... ) Lots and Lots of stuff for the Roland S-550 sampler and the sampler itself. I can definitely negotiate deals for combinations of things. The reason I list them all seperately is because I have had numerous offers for individual items....so I am listing them all seperately to see what happens. For Sale: Roland S-550 Sampler Price: $600 + shipping Includes: Rack mount sampler, manuals, mouse, b/w external video monitor, roland sequencing software, State of the art sampler when I got it. Not any more...but still very useable. one of the best sample libraries ever assembled for a single sampler was that created for the S-550(see below). This is a quiet sampler(not noisy) and it produces sounds that are COMPLETELY useable for ANY project....including a Pro quality CD. Also includes external monchrome video monitor and sequencing software(that actually runs on the S-550). This sampler has a very nice GUI that you can access through the external monitor option. This enables you to use a mouse to program the thing and work with it. You don't wanna know how much I paid for this thing originally. I don't even like to think about it. Even as I sit here and re-read this add it pains me to think about selling it for this cheap. Who knows...maybe I won't. For Sale: Roland CD-5 CD-Rom drive: Price: $295 + shipping Includes: CD-Rom drive, Operating system floppy, cables, manuals Roland CD-Rom drive designed exclusively for the Roland S-550 sampler(might work with S-50 or W30....I'm not sure). This GREATLY improves the working environment for working with the S-550. You can load in programs and samples in a fraction the time it takes to load in programs from floppy. Plus you can randomly browse the library and select sounds by category. VERY VERY handy. This unit has BARELY been used. I bought it a year ago and turned it ONCE to make sure it worked(which it did) and then I have just been too busy to do ANY music, so its just been sitting there in the OFF position. We are talking MINT!!!!! For Sale: Roland Sample Library CD Price: $100 + shipping. Featuring the entire award winning Roland sample library for S-series samplers. Less than a year old and BARELY used. Contains the entire library for S-series samplers. This is one of the best libraries ever assembled for a single sampler For Sale: Roland Club-50 CD-ROM Price: $100 + shipping. A second disc of sample libraries for use with the S-series samplers by Roland. Most of these are meat and potatoe sounds like horns, pianos, basses, strings, etc... All the stuff you need for gigging, studio sessions, sequencing, etc.... As usual....Roland did a fabulous job of creating these programs. Well worth the price which is less than half what Roland was selling it for about a year ago. Hundreds of samples. For Sale: Universe of Sounds CD-ROM Price: $100 + shipping A 3rd party disc of samples for the S-series samplers. Some totally great stuff in here. The guy that put this disc together eventually started Q-Up Arts.....which is in all the current rags advetising sample libs for various different samplers. I actually went out to their shop in Santa Cruz, CA about a year ago and checked out the studio there. He showed me the setup and how he goes about making sample libs. Pretty interesting. Anyway, its also a FABULOUS collection of sounds. Lots of layered, big sounding stuff. Great stuff. I hate to give up these sounds actually....but you can't have your cake and eat it too. Paid $150 for it new about a year ago. This is hard to get too. Good stuff Maynard! For Sale: Roland HD-IF SCSI interface Price: $100 + shipping This is a HOT commodity amoungst the S-series sampler users. Everyone wants one. Roland sold out a LONG TIME AGO. I have one if you want it. Works perfectly. I have a feeling I am going to get a lot of offers for this one and so if I do....I am going to auction it off to the highest bidder. However, if someone buys the whole package...they will get precedence. Or if someone buys the entire CD-ROM setup, I will include the SCSI interface as part of a package deal. Supports the Roland CD-5 CD-Rom and several SCSI hard drives. For Sale: Sample library for S-550 ( on floppies) Price: $200 + shipping Includes: 200+ floopies with S-series library, Universe of Sounds and Outrigger productions floppies, floppy drawer/tray. A lot of blood, sweat and tears went into the collection and creation of this set of floppies. 200+ floppies featuring the entire S-Series library from Roland as well as a bunch of stuff from the Univerise of Sounds CD and stuff I bought from Outrigger Productions when they were around(including a FABULOUS hammond set). This is totally great stuff. Anyone that already owns an S-Series sampler and doesn't have this library is totally missing out. Its the BIGGEST selling point of the sampler......it's library....which has to this day been touted as one of the best libraries ever made. If you don't have SCSI, this is a GREAT collection of stuff on floppy. Turn your mediorce collection of S-550 samples into a STUDIO ready monster. I'm telling you...I have had studio people go "whoa....nice setup".... mostly because of the collection of sounds I have. These sample libraries will definitely breathe new life into your S-series sampler if you only have part of the library now. Some of the commercial disks I have include M1 samples, D-50 samples, Killer Hammonds from Outrigger Productions, Universe of Sounds stuff, and more. Lots of great stuff. Also includes floppy drawer/tray that holds entire collection Some of the Universe of Sounds stuff is totally cool. I know people with K2500's that wish they could get their mitts on some of these sounds. In fact, I dread missing them. At least 50 of the floppies are commerical 3rd party samples. Lots of great stuff. A lot of personal time by me went into creating these floppies. Every last one of them has a diskette label that was printed on a laser printer with the RSB-### number on it and even on the edge so that if you have a ton load of floppies in a drawer you can look across the tops of them to see which one is which. Looks totally professional and very convienient. -steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 13 02:30:56 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-2>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:30:43 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id CAA16099 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:30:42 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:20:41 -0500 Received: from hp1.online.apple.com ([192.215.65.17]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:19:51 -0500 Received: by hp1.online.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA24735 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:19:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:19:35 -0500 From: ColinWebber@eworld.com Message-ID: <960312231927_27670476@hp1.online.apple.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup digest? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Is there a digest form of this list? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 13 17:14:07 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:13:58 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id RAA08034 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:13:53 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:01:33 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:00:43 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id OAA29135; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:00:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:00:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199603132200.OAA29135@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup Syquest 270 meg problems Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO At 11:16 PM 3/12/96 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, I had responded when you first posted this. >My hard drive today has started again with this problem. >Today was the first time in a while I saved files to it, and when I tried >to reload them, two of the four volumes I saved gave problems. >Did you ever get a fix? Did many people responde to say they had the same >problem? I spoke to Jim Norman at Roland today, and he said that he had >heard many similar horror stories, to the point he was no longer >recommending syquest 270's. What I find surprising though is that mind has >had the drive replaced three times already in the past year, and I have two >friends with 270's although not packaged by "MAGIC" as mine is, but they >have had no problems. One >is connected to the an Akai MPC3000 and the other a Kurzweil K2000S. >I am wondering if it is something about The S-760 or the way if formats the >cartridge which gives this recurring problems. >richard sven > > > >>We have 3 samplers (2xs760,1xs750), each with its own syquest 270 >>removeable drive. >> >>Nowadays, MEDIUM ERRORS are happening every week, mainly on disks >>connected to the s760's. When these are used on the s750, it >>crashes on loading certain samples. >> >>Has anyone got any solution to this apparent problem ? >>It seems to have happened more recently, so I'm wondering if os 2.19 >>upwards has started this. >> >>Any suggestions welcome, or we are going to buy fixed HD's. (I have one >>at home and it's great!) >> >>----------------------------------------------- >>justin@argonaut.com >>----------------------------------------------- >>Music Dept Leader >>Argonaut Software Ltd. >>70 Colindale Avenue, Colindale >>London, NW9 5ER, England >>Tel: +44-181-200 5777 Fax: +44-181-200 9866 >>----------------------------------------------- >> >>- I own a Syquest 270 and a roland S760 and a chinon CDROM. Ive had lots of problems with getting corrupted data in the past. Heres some tips some of which Im unsure of their individual effectiveness, but they've together cured my problems: 1. ALWAYS RESCAN YOUR REMOVABLE DISK HARD DRIVE AFTER YOUVE CHANGED CARTIGES!!!!! This is what I suspect has caused all of your problems. I am still experiencing problems as a result of my past legacy of not scanning disks. One must delete all corrupted samples and organizational data. That data can haunt you and corrupt new data. Ive also seen the OS get corrupted from this. 2. I also suspect I had problems when I shared the same SCSI bus with my apple computer. I think my S760 has run a lot smoother since I dedicated my CDROM and Syquest to it. Therefore, it may be optimal to only run one computer or sampler on a SCSI bus. 3. Jim suggested an active terminator that cleans up the SCSI line made by APC, I forget the name of it, but I just saw it advertised and noticed that the price of it considerably dropped. I bought it and it may have helped. 4. Try to rewrite sample/organizational data only when you have made changes to it. The more times you rewrite, the more chance there is of a mistake (forgetting to rescan or computer-fault). Using the volume dump feature is great because you never write organizational data to the hard disk, if you use volumes a lot. Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 13 18:35:13 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:35:03 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id SAA31911 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:34:49 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:24:56 -0500 Received: from relay5.UU.NET ([192.48.96.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:24:06 -0500 Received: from uucp6.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQagxp18829; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp6.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:24:03 -0500 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id PAA16674; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 15:09:38 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:16:05 -0500 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup Syquest 270 meg To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Reply to: RE>>sgroup Syquest 270 meg problems Chris Kirkham writes: > 3. Jim suggested an active terminator that cleans up the SCSI line made by > APC, I forget the name of it, but I just saw it advertised and noticed that > the price of it considerably dropped. I bought it and it may have helped. My guess is that Chris is referring to APS, and their SCSI Sentry active terminator. APS also sells drives, and they build the same termination into all of their enclosures; my systems administrator friends think they're great. I use an APS 230-meg MO with my 760. I'm not affiliated with APS in any way, just a satisfied customer. APS's number is (800) 874-1343. All that said, I too had problems before I learned to be absolutely religious about re-scanning after changing MO cartridges, and I think Chris is correct in suggesting that this is the most likely source of 760 removable-drive problems. - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 13 21:00:03 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:59:54 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:48:39 -0500 Received: from huey.cadvision.com ([204.50.1.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:47:49 -0500 Received: from cadc69.cadvision.com by huey.cadvision.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.04.tri.dcx) id AA40896; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:51:55 -0700 Message-Id: <311EAA80.6083@cadvision.com> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:48:32 -0500 From: waveform@cadvision.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Macintosh; I; 68K) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Sgroup Subject: sgroup S760 O/S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Does anyone have Jim Norman's email ?? I'd like to write him about a few O/S suggestions for the S760 and I'll bounce them of a few users here. 1) a proper matrix modulation scheme at both the partial and patch level. I would be happy with 4 simultaneous source/destination all available MIDI controllers and env/lfo ect being able to route all kinds of stuff like cutoff, resonance, sample start ect. ect. so far EMU has the best modulation scheme, how hard could it be for them to implement. This shoul be done on a partial level with a master override at the patch level. 2) A second LFO ?? 3) The ability to load regular audio from a CD in a CD Rom drive, many computer programs can do this. It seems Roland has a history with the S550/750 ect of not upgrading the O/S with many new features, they talk about it in their lit. but don't make any major upgrades ect. They usuall say they don't have the processing power, but I think that's BS, they just wan't you to buy the next sampler that they make. Anybody have any idea what the have coming next?? The 760 has been out almost 3 years so they shoul be do for another since Akai/Emu have relatively new machines Bob - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 13 22:13:07 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:12:53 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id WAA15268 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:12:49 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:03:23 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:02:27 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28600; Wed, 13 Mar 96 21:59:19 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 1478b3c0; Wed, 13 Mar 96 21:58:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:05:05 -0500 Message-Id: <1478b3c0@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: Re: sgroup S760 O/S To: waveform@cadvision.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Yeah, here it is: Jim Norman ir004170@interramp.com Doug _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: sgroup S760 O/S Author: waveform@cadvision.com Date: 2/11/96 9:48 PM Does anyone have Jim Norman's email ?? I'd like to write him about a few O/S suggestions for the S760 and I'll bounce them of a few users here. 1) a proper matrix modulation scheme at both the partial and patch level. I would be happy with 4 simultaneous source/destination all available MIDI controllers and env/lfo ect being able to route all kinds of stuff like cutoff, resonance, sample start ect. ect. so far EMU has the best modulation scheme, how hard could it be for them to implement. This shoul be done on a partial level with a master override at the patch level. 2) A second LFO ?? 3) The ability to load regular audio from a CD in a CD Rom drive, many computer programs can do this. It seems Roland has a history with the S550/750 ect of not upgrading the O/S with many new features, they talk about it in their lit. but don't make any major upgrades ect. They usuall say they don't have the processing power, but I think that's BS, they just wan't you to buy the next sampler that they make. Anybody have any idea what the have coming next?? The 760 has been out almost 3 years so they shoul be do for another since Akai/Emu have relatively new machines Bob - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 13 23:38:13 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:38:02 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id XAA15024; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:37:56 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <137>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:23:30 -0500 Received: from relay5.UU.NET ([192.48.96.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:22:41 -0500 Received: from uucp6.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQagyj05790; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp6.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:22:25 -0500 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id UAA27408; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:12:53 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:16:07 -0500 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup S760 O/S To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>sgroup S760 O/S uunet!cadvision.com!waveform (Bob) writes: > It seems Roland has a history with the S550/750 ect of not > upgrading the O/S with many new features, they talk about it in their > lit. but don't make any major upgrades ect. I've heard this many times on this list, so it's not surprising to see it again. However - right now, I'm looking at a five-page list of the features added in S750/770 software version 2, which included (among other things) access to all 8 outputs individually (original version was more limited, with some stereo pairing I believe), various improvements to the file system, use of files on disk as parameter templates, expanded Jump pages, popup file lists, automatic renaming (for both RAM copies and Partials in a Patch), Analog Feel detuning, editing in context, Partial Map screen, programmable parameter templates, automatic Partial and Patch creation during sampling, wider pitch envelope, Recover function for destructive sample edits, Loop point allowed before Sample Start, sample truncation with fade in/out, sample reverse, sample splicing and mixing, sample auto-looping, graphic sample editing, cut and splice and area erase sample editing, destructive sample dsp operations including digital filtering, compression/expansion, time stretching, and sample rate conversion, Performance Resampling (taken out for the S-760, BTW - presumably a hardware issue), Part/MIDI Channel solo, programmable Volume Program Change numbers, individual application of Volume IDs, alphabetical file sorting, disk file renaming, and various smaller user interface tweaks. The S-760 additionally features loading of Akai disks, SCSI sample transfers (recently added), real-time pan, and better file operations (there may be other stuff - I don't have my S-760 manual in front of me). I'm not as familiar with the S-50 and S-550, but there was a sequencer upgrade. Roland has also been very good about creating and maintaining their sample libraries, and encouraging third-party sound development. I think they're doing OK. - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Mar 14 01:14:34 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 01:14:24 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <138>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 01:02:08 -0500 Received: from relay3.UU.NET ([192.48.96.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 01:01:19 -0500 Received: from net3.sbic.co.za by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQagyq15024; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 01:00:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by net3.sbic.co.za (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA01606; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:00:46 -0200 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 05:00:40 -0500 From: Aubrey X-Sender: kloppers@net3 To: Dan Cc: Roland Samplers Subject: Re: sgroup S760 O/S In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Is there anyone on this newsgroup who can tell me how to do SMDI transfers on a pc? I know I have asked this question numerous times, but no one seems to know. ~ o"o ____________________________o0(_)0o__________________ | | e-mail: | | /\ | / | | | /__\ |/ |kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za| |/ \UBREY | \LOPPERS| kloppers@net3.sbic.co.za | |______________________|____________________________| __ o | URL: http://ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers | __/<_ --> |___________________________________________| (_)>(_) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Mar 14 13:05:10 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:05:02 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 12:43:22 -0500 Received: from uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:49:03 -0500 Received: from [10.0.2.15] (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm) by uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05976; Thu, 14 Mar 96 08:47:40-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 08:52:50 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm (Richard Sven Patterson) Subject: sgroup s-760 and the syquest 270's Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I previously posted a help for continous problems with my syquest 270MB and the s-760. Thanks for all the help given. The key most people said was to make sure that one RESCAN's after switching a cartridge. I just realised that I never Park Heads on my drives before shutting off the S-760, does anyone think that this may also be part of my problems. And do most people Park Heads before Turning off their S-760? Thanks in advance, richard sven richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 809-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 809-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Mar 14 15:19:21 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:19:08 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:03:31 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:02:35 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id MAA29122; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 12:02:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 15:02:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199603142002.MAA29122@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: sgroup S760 O/S Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 09:48 PM 2/11/96 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have Jim Norman's email ?? > >I'd like to write him about a few O/S suggestions for the S760 and I'll >bounce them of a few users here. > >1) a proper matrix modulation scheme at both the partial and patch >level. I would be happy with 4 simultaneous source/destination all >available MIDI controllers and env/lfo ect being able to route all >kinds of stuff like cutoff, resonance, sample start ect. ect. so far EMU >has the best modulation scheme, how hard could it be for them to >implement. This shoul be done on a partial level with a master >override at the patch level. > >2) A second LFO ?? > >3) The ability to load regular audio from a CD in a CD Rom drive, >many computer programs can do this. > >It seems Roland has a history with the S550/750 ect of not >upgrading the O/S with many new features, they talk about it in their >lit. but don't make any major upgrades ect. They usuall say they don't >have the processing power, but I think that's BS, they just wan't you >to buy the next sampler that they make. > >Anybody have any idea what the have coming next?? The 760 has >been out almost 3 years so they shoul be do for another since >Akai/Emu have relatively new machines > >Bob > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > Jim's email is : ir004170@interramp.com (Jim Norman) He is really reponsive too, which is great. I havent heard anything about a new sampler, but if they come out with one, I hope it uses the same sample format/library. Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Mar 14 19:29:13 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 19:29:02 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <162>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 19:16:22 -0500 Received: from m4.pcix.com ([204.179.180.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 19:13:45 -0500 Received: from [204.179.183.86] (hingham86.pcix.com [204.179.183.86]) by m4.pcix.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id TAA04002 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:54:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:54:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199603140054.TAA04002@m4.pcix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) Subject: sgroup Sequencing Update S-550 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R 1st post. How do, I recently saw a post regarding a software update for S-550. I am currently using v1.13 as my utility, but some one mentioned a sequencing update. I'm new to the group and would appreciate other info on my trusty old s550. Thanks ug - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Mar 14 22:12:40 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:12:33 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id WAA27123 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:12:30 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <166>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:01:51 -0500 Received: from ns.hicom.net ([204.249.216.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:54:50 -0500 Received: (from gcm@localhost) by ns.hicom.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA15787; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:54:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:54:33 -0500 From: Robin Hood To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R hmmm I would like to be a member of the sgroup...what do i do I have sample disks that i would like to trade also.. also looking to get the missing s50 disks for my library looking foward to hearing from you... gcm@ns.hicom.net - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 02:06:08 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 02:05:58 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <170>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 01:54:34 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 01:53:44 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts013p8.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.100.244]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA31652 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:53:43 +0300 Message-ID: <3149A204.ED0@netvision.net.il> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:59:48 -0500 From: ronen_h X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup to by ro not to by Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO hi i have a s-760,i am thinking of adding a sp-700(sample player) ,is it 100% s760 compatible or is it more like the s770 ? is it a good buy ? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 05:05:17 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 05:05:08 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <171>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:53:08 -0500 Received: from mailgate.telecom.ie ([159.134.141.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:52:17 -0500 Received: from smtpgw.dundrum.telecom.ie by mailgate.telecom.ie (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14237; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:54:01 GMT Received: from cc:Mail by smtpgw id AA826912333; Fri, 15 Mar 96 09:49:24 gmt Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:49:24 -0500 From: emanning@telecom.ie Message-Id: <9602158269.AA826912333@smtpgw> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S550 O.S. Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Can someone email me with the following: 1. What's the latest (last) O.S. for the S550? (I'm using a hard disk) 2. From where can I download it? (What's it called?) I'll be using SDISK on my PC to save it to diskette. 3. Is there a difference between an O.S. disk and a Utilities disk? If so, what utilities are available and what's this disk called? Thanks in advance, Ed - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 07:59:49 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:59:45 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <180>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:49:13 -0500 Received: from isgate.is ([193.4.58.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:48:23 -0500 Received: from folda.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.7.3/ISnet/14-10-91); Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:45:43 GMT Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by folda.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:46:46 GMT Received: from [192.0.2.1] by rvik.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:48:19 GMT X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:46:04 -0500 To: emanning@telecom.ie From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Subject: Re: sgroup S550 O.S. Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Ed Manning (?) wrote: > 1. What's the latest (last) O.S. for the S550? (I'm using a hard disk) For floppies it's version 1.15. As far as the hard disk system is concerned, I don't think it ever went past version 1.00. Anyone else know better? > 2. From where can I download it? (What's it called?) > I'll be using SDISK on my PC to save it to diskette. If it's not on the UWaterloo ftp site, it's probably not to be found anywhere, unless you can get it through your Roland dealer. > 3. Is there a difference between an O.S. disk and a Utilities disk? > If so, what utilities are available and what's this disk called? There is only one disk included with the system, and that is the Utility disk. On the label it's called the System Disk. Rikhardur H. Fridriksson rhf@ismennt.is http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 08:42:12 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:42:03 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <182>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:31:26 -0500 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:30:35 -0500 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA20030; Fri, 15 Mar 96 08:27:51 EST From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA25776; Fri, 15 Mar 96 08:30:03 EST Received: from acropolis by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA05199; Fri, 15 Mar 96 08:30:07 EST Received: by acropolis (4.1/DCS-aloft_spooler-S2.1) id AA29705; Fri, 15 Mar 96 08:30:05 EST Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:30:05 -0500 Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9603151330.AA29705@acropolis> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup S550 O.S. and Re: sgroup Sequencing Update S-550 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Previously on sgroup, forrest t said: > 1st post. How do, I recently saw a post regarding a software update for > S-550. I am currently using v1.13 as my utility, but some one mentioned a > sequencing update. I'm new to the group and would appreciate other info on > my trusty old s550. Thanks ug I think that the OS got as high as v1.15. If it can't be found at the ftp site, then call Jim Norman at Roland. He'll send it out to you. The sequencer was not an update. It was a separate piece of software that you had to buy. There's a key that plugs into the mouse port that is essential if you wish to save your sequences to disk. It's called Director-S and I used it exclusively for a very long time. It's a pattern based sequencer that has a severe limitation of 300 events per pattern. In some of my more thinkly orchestrated sequences, some patterns had to be two or even one measure long. Sequencing becomes rather tedious at that point. That's why I eventually picked up an MC50. And Ed Manning asks: > 3. Is there a difference between an O.S. disk and a Utilities disk? > If so, what utilities are available and what's this disk called? Yes. The OS disk is required to boot up and use the S550. The Utilities disk has the sampling software on it. (I'm simplifying.) You must have both to get full use of the S550 and both must have matching revision numbers. i.e. if you're using OS v1.13, you can't use Utilities v1.15 without first doing a change sys operation. The two disks are called OS and Utilities; no fancy names. Bill Fox - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 09:12:05 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:12:02 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id JAA12380 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:11:58 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <183>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:59:22 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:58:30 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01688; Fri, 15 Mar 96 08:55:35 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 14976ad0; Fri, 15 Mar 96 08:54:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:56:44 -0500 Message-Id: <14976ad0@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: Re: sgroup S550 O.S. To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, emanning@telecom.ie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi Ed: 1. The latest I have is v1.15 2,3. You can bootup with the Utilities disk (v.1.15) and save only the system O.S. on that disk to a separate disk if you like. You can download it from the ftp site. Doug ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: sgroup S550 O.S. Author: emanning@telecom.ie at SMTP-GW Date: 3/15/96 4:49 AM Can someone email me with the following: 1. What's the latest (last) O.S. for the S550? (I'm using a hard disk) 2. From where can I download it? (What's it called?) I'll be using SDISK on my PC to save it to diskette. 3. Is there a difference between an O.S. disk and a Utilities disk? If so, what utilities are available and what's this disk called? Thanks in advance, Ed - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 09:31:21 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:31:17 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <184>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:18:21 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:17:16 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02182; Fri, 15 Mar 96 09:14:23 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 1497b250; Fri, 15 Mar 96 09:13:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:11:01 -0500 Message-Id: <1497b250@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: Re[2]: sgroup S550 O.S. and Re: sgroup Sequencing Update S-5 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO ...and if by chance you want to use Director-S and you *don't* have the key (like me - I bought S550 twice used), Roland is going to charge you $34.OO for the key. Doug ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: sgroup S550 O.S. and Re: sgroup Sequencing Update S-550 Author: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) at SMTP-GW Date: 3/15/96 8:30 AM Previously on sgroup, forrest t said: > 1st post. How do, I recently saw a post regarding a software update for > S-550. I am currently using v1.13 as my utility, but some one mentioned a > sequencing update. I'm new to the group and would appreciate other info on > my trusty old s550. Thanks ug I think that the OS got as high as v1.15. If it can't be found at the ftp site, then call Jim Norman at Roland. He'll send it out to you. The sequencer was not an update. It was a separate piece of software that you had to buy. There's a key that plugs into the mouse port that is essential if you wish to save your sequences to disk. It's called Director-S and I used it exclusively for a very long time. It's a pattern based sequencer that has a severe limitation of 300 events per pattern. In some of my more thinkly orchestrated sequences, some patterns had to be two or even one measure long. Sequencing becomes rather tedious at that point. That's why I eventually picked up an MC50. And Ed Manning asks: > 3. Is there a difference between an O.S. disk and a Utilities disk? > If so, what utilities are available and what's this disk called? Yes. The OS disk is required to boot up and use the S550. The Utilities disk has the sampling software on it. (I'm simplifying.) You must have both to get full use of the S550 and both must have matching revision numbers. i.e. if you're using OS v1.13, you can't use Utilities v1.15 without first doing a change sys operation. The two disks are called OS and Utilities; no fancy names. Bill Fox - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 13:16:17 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:16:11 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id NAA16463 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:16:06 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <187>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:03:39 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:02:50 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88176-3>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:02:28 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: emanning@telecom.ie, rhf@ismennt.is Subject: Re: sgroup S550 O.S. Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <96Mar15.130228est.88176-3@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:02:26 -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 07:59:49 1996 | X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is | To: emanning@telecom.ie | From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) | Subject: Re: sgroup S550 O.S. | Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca | | Ed Manning (?) wrote: | | > 1. What's the latest (last) O.S. for the S550? (I'm using a hard disk) | | For floppies it's version 1.15. As far as the hard disk system is concerned, | I don't think it ever went past version 1.00. Anyone else know better? | | > 2. From where can I download it? (What's it called?) | > I'll be using SDISK on my PC to save it to diskette. | | If it's not on the UWaterloo ftp site, it's probably not to be found | anywhere, unless you can get it through your Roland dealer. I have a whole pile of S-50 samples and OS updates on diskette courtesy of Jim Norman of Roland US, and they should be available on lotus in the not too distant future ... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 11:02:08 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:01:57 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <185>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:49:57 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca ([192.58.194.73]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:29:27 -0500 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:28:00 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:45:25 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:45:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:45:00 -0500 X400-Originator: /dd.id=0506648/g=francois/i=f/s=drolet/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.911:15.02.96.14.45.25] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: S550 SCSI/HD-... From: "francois (f.) drolet" Message-ID: <"8996 Fri Mar 15 09:45:55 1996"@bnr.ca> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S550 SCSI/HD-CD-ROM Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I am new on this list, but have been to the ftp site at Waterloo. This has probably been beaten to death but I don't have the time to search thru the entire archive for this info. Could someone please help me? I need to know what HW/SW combination I need in order to be able to connect a Hard Drive-CD-ROM to my S-550. As well I would like to know if its possible to connect the S-550 SCSI chain to a PC's SCSI bus and read the Drive(s)( via S-disk ?) Thanks Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 16 17:01:08 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:01:07 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:39:54 -0500 Received: from astral.magic.ca ([199.166.230.69]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:38:47 -0500 Received: from [199.166.232.48] (elysium19.magic.ca [199.166.232.48]) by astral.magic.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA08686; Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:41:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:41:37 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: curt.crosby@healthline.com From: lost@astral.magic.ca (Steve Cowan) Subject: Re: sgroup s-550>s-50 conversion Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 3:53 PM 15/03/96, curt.crosby@healthline.com wrote: >Hey , sgroupies. Its my 1st post.... forgive any stupid questions... >Is there a conversion utility to go from s-550 format to s-50? I sure could use >it, I've got a ton of s-550 samples i cant use. To convert S-550 disks to S-50 format, you'll need an S-550, S-330, or, I believe a W-30. These all allow saving in the S-50's slightly lest robust file format. The S-50, to my knowledge, has never been capable of reading S-550 disks. I understand the last software update from Roland did offer some extra 550-type functionality, but I don't believe it can actually read S-550 disks. ................................/ Steve J. Cowan [ e-mail: sc@magic.ca ] Producer, "Lost in Cyberspace" [ e-mail: lost@astral.magic.ca ] Admin, Wavestation Mailing List [ WWW: http://www.magic.ca/~lost/ws.html] - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 17 02:25:32 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 02:25:20 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id CAA12236 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 02:25:15 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 02:08:01 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 02:06:41 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88159-3>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 02:06:13 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Roland S50 library now available for FTP Message-Id: <96Mar17.020613est.88159-3@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 02:06:07 -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Thanks to the efforts and ongoing support of Jim Norman of Roland USA, the Roland S50 sample library is now available on the sgroup FTP site, lotus.uwaterloo.ca in the directory pub/sgroup/samples/Roland/S50 or, as a URL ftp://lotus.uwaterloo.ca/pub/sgroup/samples/Roland/S50 Don't all try to grab them at once ... Please let me know if there are any problems, and thanks Jim! John Sellens sgroup archivist jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 17 03:54:44 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 03:54:36 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 03:28:50 -0500 Received: from ammi.mclink.it ([192.106.166.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 03:27:22 -0500 Received: from [192.106.166.140] (ppp-140.mclink.it [192.106.166.140]) by ammi.mclink.it (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA09760 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 09:27:04 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 03:30:06 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: mc4378@mclink.it (Valerio Faggioni) Subject: Re[2]: Re: sgroup Sequencing Update S-5 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > ...and if by chance you want to use Director-S and you *don't* have > the key (like me - I bought S550 twice used), Roland is going to > charge you $34.OO for the key. > > Doug > I bought it used too and the owner gave me the Director-S original software pakage, but not the key 'cause he lost it. Do I have to buy the key as well? Thanx val - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 17 22:08:11 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:08:06 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id WAA21959 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:07:57 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:51:46 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 21:50:19 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09015; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:46:58 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 14cce830; Sun, 17 Mar 96 21:46:27 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:18:14 -0500 Message-Id: <14cce830@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: Re[4]: sgroup Sequencing Update S-5 To: mc4378@mclink.it (Valerio Faggioni), sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R If you want to save the sequences, you need the key... Doug _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re[2]: Re: sgroup Sequencing Update S-5 Author: mc4378@mclink.it (Valerio Faggioni) Date: 3/17/96 3:30 AM > ...and if by chance you want to use Director-S and you *don't* have > the key (like me - I bought S550 twice used), Roland is going to > charge you $34.OO for the key. > > Doug > I bought it used too and the owner gave me the Director-S original software pakage, but not the key 'cause he lost it. Do I have to buy the key as well? Thanx val - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 17 22:23:31 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:23:23 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id WAA00785 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:23:21 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:09:07 -0500 Received: from astral.magic.ca ([199.166.230.69]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:08:14 -0500 Received: from [199.166.232.84] (baator22.magic.ca [199.166.232.81]) by astral.magic.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA14791; Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:03:28 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:03:28 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mc4378@mclink.it (Valerio Faggioni) From: lost@astral.magic.ca (Steve Cowan) Subject: Re[2]: Re: sgroup Sequencing Update S-5 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 8:30 AM 17/03/96, Valerio Faggioni wrote: >> ...and if by chance you want to use Director-S and you *don't* have >> the key (like me - I bought S550 twice used), Roland is going to >> charge you $34.OO for the key. >> >> Doug >> >I bought it used too and the owner gave me the Director-S original >software pakage, but not the key 'cause he lost it. Do I have to buy the >key as well? >Thanx >val You only need the key if you want to use Roland's *awful* sequencing software. It's actually a nice package for sequencing drum parts no more than 2-4 bars long, but it is not a practical sequencer by any means IMHO. You will be prompted for the key once per session if you want to save a song or save the sequencing system software to a new diskette. BTW, I'm speaking of the SYS-303 Director-S software for S-330. If the software is any better for the 550 I retract my comments... but the problem is: * a song consists of individual sequences. Each sequence may contain a ridiculously low maximum of events - it's something like 100 or 127 or 255 events. This means that Director-S will not let you be inspired for more than about four bars at a time, if your music contains a substantial number of busy parts - like 16th-notes for example. * there are no tracks - instead, with each repetition of a sequence, you may selectively mute MIDI channels. This is great, but if your drums are on channel 10, and you want to play for a few bars with, say, no hi-hat; you can't mute the hi-hat track. Instead you must copy to a new sequence then delete the hi-hat part. If I had the patience, Director-S would be great for live performance, assuming the user doesn't mind dumping the material from their "main" sequencer only about 4 bars at a time (then stopping, record-enabling a new sequence, recording for about 4 bars, repeat until finished). The integration with the S-330 environment is nice. ................................/ Steve J. Cowan [ e-mail: sc@magic.ca ] Producer, "Lost in Cyberspace" [ e-mail: lost@astral.magic.ca ] Admin, Wavestation Mailing List [ WWW: http://www.magic.ca/~lost/ws.html] - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 15 20:24:34 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:24:22 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:12:23 -0500 Received: from mail.crl.com ([165.113.1.22]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:11:29 -0500 Received: from news1.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA29446 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:07:45 -0800 Received: from healthline.com by news1.crl.com with UUCP id AA19000 (5.65c/IDA-1.502 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Fri, 15 Mar 1996 13:08:46 -0800 Received: by healthline.com id 0I47I003 Fri, 15 Mar 96 12:53:46 -0800 From: curt.crosby@healthline.com Message-Id: <9603151253.0I47I00@healthline.com> Organization: Worldport Health Info Online X-Mailer: TBBS/TIGER v1.0 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 15:53:46 -0500 Subject: sgroup s-550>s-50 conversion To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hey , sgroupies. Its my 1st post.... forgive any stupid questions... Is there a conversion utility to go from s-550 format to s-50? I sure could use it, I've got a ton of s-550 samples i cant use. Also, anybody have a spare s-50 manual they want to ged rid of? I'd be willing to shed a few $ for it. I dont have a clue as to how to use most of the stuff on it.(my first keyboard.I'm normally a lowly guitarist......:^> ) Any help is welcomed! Regards, curt.crosby@healthline.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 18 08:57:33 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:57:26 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <11>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:44:18 -0500 Received: from adelicia.belmont.edu ([198.146.88.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 08:43:28 -0500 Received: from [198.146.93.194] (198.146.93.194) by BELMONT.EDU (PMDF V4.2-13 #5988) id <01I2H5QCIH7K00EFO8@BELMONT.EDU>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:43:16 CDT Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 07:49:34 -0500 From: strascinal@BELMONT.EDU (Tony Vincent) Subject: sgroup Zip Drive with my S-750?? To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R After using my S-750 with a 44MB Syquest drive, I decided to try out the Zip Drive (by Iomega) because of much recomendation from the Roland sampler newsletter, "In The Loop" and other sources. After hooking the drive to the SCSI port-and the S-750 recognizes the drive-I have no luck formating the Zip Disk. The 750 says that it is formating on it's LCD, but nothing is going on with the drive. No yellow working light, no nothing! I| decided to stop the "pseudo-formating" once the 750 was counting in the 2000s. Does anyone know what's going on or can lead me to someone who is using a Zip Drive with their S-750? Blessings, Tony Vincent Written Correspondence: Tony Vincent Productions "...Pay no attention to the P.O. Box 159331 man behind the curtain." Nashville, TN 37215 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 18 16:09:25 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:09:23 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:57:05 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:56:14 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id MAA21824; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:55:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:55:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199603182055.MAA21824@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup Zip Drive with my S-750?? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 07:49 AM 3/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >After using my S-750 with a 44MB Syquest drive, I decided to try out the >Zip Drive (by Iomega) because of much recomendation from the Roland sampler >newsletter, "In The Loop" and other sources. After hooking the drive to >the SCSI port-and the S-750 recognizes the drive-I have no luck formating >the Zip Disk. The 750 says that it is formating on it's LCD, but nothing >is going on with the drive. No yellow working light, no nothing! I| >decided to stop the "pseudo-formating" once the 750 was counting in the >2000s. Does anyone know what's going on or can lead me to someone who is >using a Zip Drive with their S-750? > >Blessings, > >Tony Vincent Tony, Ive had this problem on my syquest 270 and roland S760. Just try formating Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 18 16:31:09 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:31:02 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <137>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:17:27 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:16:22 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id NAA26037; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:16:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:16:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199603182116.NAA26037@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup Zip Drive with my S-750?? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 07:49 AM 3/18/96 -0500, you wrote: >After using my S-750 with a 44MB Syquest drive, I decided to try out the >Zip Drive (by Iomega) because of much recomendation from the Roland sampler >newsletter, "In The Loop" and other sources. After hooking the drive to >the SCSI port-and the S-750 recognizes the drive-I have no luck formating >the Zip Disk. The 750 says that it is formating on it's LCD, but nothing >is going on with the drive. No yellow working light, no nothing! I| >decided to stop the "pseudo-formating" once the 750 was counting in the >2000s. Does anyone know what's going on or can lead me to someone who is >using a Zip Drive with their S-750? > >Blessings, > >Tony Vincent Tony, Ive had this problem on my syquest 270 and roland S760. Just try formating again, and it should work. If it continues to happen, Id guess youve got a defect with the disk or your roland OS is messed up (corrupted). Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 18 22:15:22 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:15:15 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:01:44 -0500 Received: from owlnet.rice.edu ([128.42.49.7]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:00:52 -0500 Received: from great-gray.owlnet.rice.edu (great-gray.owlnet.rice.edu [128.42.49.3]) by owlnet.rice.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA01383 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:00:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Alexey L. Elfimov" Received: (from elfimov@localhost) by great-gray.owlnet.rice.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA03518 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:00:40 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603190300.VAA03518@great-gray.owlnet.rice.edu> Subject: sgroup FS: S-330 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:00:40 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Roland S-330 for sale. Absolutely perfect condition, not a scratch, studio use only. Disk drive never had any bugs, reads and writes whatever you need. Manual, program/utility disks included. May throw in my old monitor with a cord for free, if you need it. $375 + s/h E-mail, if interested. Regards, Alex. (elfimov@owlnet.rice.edu) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 19 06:01:59 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 06:01:57 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 05:42:39 -0500 Received: from mbox.vol.it ([194.20.32.70]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 05:41:49 -0500 Received: from tina36.vol.it by mbox.vol.it with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA267282252; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:44:13 +0100 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 05:44:13 -0500 X-Sender: brunello@mbox.vol.it (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: brunello@mbox.vol.it Subject: sgroup Overflow and Divide error Message-Id: <96Mar19.054149est.24@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I'm trying to use the S-Disk program and Soundlibrary (to edit and file the s-330 disks) but they always crash when they start on reading the diskettes.No matter they 're 2 dd or hd ;they crash the same way. I got two kind of messages:Divide error or Division Overflow error. I tried to launch the S-disk program directly from the dos prompt,and without loading Windows,the hard disk drive,the emm.386 ,the audio and midi drivers but it crashes the same. I tried this operations on several computer obtaining the same error. To be more detailed on the first time the programs worked on all the computer i tried. >From the second time i got the crash on all three computers. ( 2 Olivetti 486 and IBM 386 ). Does Anyone know what's goin'on? Thanks in advance , Bruno - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 19 08:36:39 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:36:34 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <138>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:22:59 -0500 Received: from gcsin1.gecm.com ([194.128.74.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:22:08 -0500 Received: from gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin1.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-0121PM) id AA13300; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:20:51 GMT Received: from gcschm.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1139AM) id AA10727; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:20:49 GMT Disclose-Recipients: prohibited Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:20:16 -0500 From: Richard Hanson GMAv +44 1634 844400 x4652 Subject: sgroup Any mirror sites? To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <0516201319031996/A03069/CSD06V/11A39B540B00*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Importance: low Priority: normal Ua-Content-Id: 11A39B540B00 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;0516201319031996/A03069/CSD06V] Hop-Count: 2 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I'm new to this list, so please excuse me if I ask a question that has been asked before but... is there a mirror to the FTP site? It's painfully slow from here (SE England) most of the time! Good site, though. Rich - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 19 08:56:31 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:56:23 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id IAA15758 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:56:12 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:43:52 -0500 Received: from ns.hicom.net ([204.249.216.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:42:28 -0500 Received: (from gcm@localhost) by ns.hicom.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA10568; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:42:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:42:16 -0500 From: Robin Hood To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup s50 s550 s330 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Is there anyone who wants to trade sample disks ... homemade or 3rd party. Does anyone remember outrigger they moved to guam and cant be found.. Sally simpson had a lot of excellent s50 disks. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 19 13:01:10 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:00:58 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id NAA18574 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:00:55 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:44:08 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:42:58 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88168-2>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:42:11 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: richard.hanson@gecm.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Any mirror sites? Message-Id: <96Mar19.124211est.88168-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:42:05 -0500 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 19 08:36:39 1996 | From: Richard Hanson GMAv +44 1634 844400 x4652 | Subject: sgroup Any mirror sites? | To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca | | I'm new to this list, so please excuse me if I ask a question that has been | asked before but... is there a mirror to the FTP site? It's painfully slow | from here (SE England) most of the time! Good site, though. No mirror sites that I know of. It's not a very fast machine to start with -- it's a MicroVAX II. You might try outside North American daylight hours e.g. try first thing in the morning your time and it might be faster? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 19 16:41:05 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-3>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:40:54 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <162>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:29:29 -0500 Received: from xs1.simplex.nl ([193.78.46.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:28:37 -0500 X-Organisation-1: Simplex Networking Amsterdam X (Inter)Network X-Organisation-2: Kruislaan 419-38a 1098 VA Amsterdam X Solutions & X-Organisation-3: tel:+31(20)-6932433 fax:+31(20)-6685486 X Access Provider Received: from PENTIUM (PPP46-203.Simplex.NL [193.78.46.203]) by xs1.simplex.nl (8.7.5/8.7.3-RS) with SMTP id WAA05025 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 22:29:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:29:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199603192129.WAA05025@xs1.simplex.nl> X-Sender: aristos@simplex.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Aristos Subject: sgroup Roland Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Amsterdam, 19th of March 1996 I would like to be put on the mailing list with news on Roland musical products. My address is: aristos@simplex.nl Thanks! Aristos - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 19 19:44:33 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-2>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:44:25 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id TAA09116 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:44:23 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <166>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:33:30 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:32:34 -0500 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id TAA03017 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:32:18 -0500 Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP id QQahtx04813; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:29:59 -0500 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id QAA20436; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:10:23 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:31:30 -0500 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup to by ro not to b To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>sgroup to by ro not to by ronen_h writes: > i have a s-760,i am thinking of adding a sp-700(sample player) ,is it > 100% s760 compatible or is it more like the s770 ? The S-760 manual details the differences in sound parameters between all S-7xx models, including the SP-700. As I recall (from one of the Keyboard magazine sampler roundups), the sound quality is not as high as that of the S-760. - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 19 20:02:29 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88179-1>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:02:17 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA31436 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:02:13 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:48:32 -0500 Received: from m4.pcix.com ([204.179.180.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:47:22 -0500 Received: from [204.179.183.56] (hingham56.pcix.com [204.179.183.56]) by m4.pcix.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id UAA03705 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 20:25:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 20:25:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199603190125.UAA03705@m4.pcix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) Subject: sgroup S550 editing Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Can someone give me a clue how to edit S550 samples on a mac 11 cx. A friend gave me a boot of Alchemy 2.5 but I can not make it interact. Does sample info travel thru midi? Or do you need sound-in capability's? How do you send samples to the ftp site, format? And can PC's and macs share samples etc. Thanks, ug - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 20 11:40:41 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:40:36 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:09:08 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:08:19 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil (opal.spawar.navy.mil [192.26.7.3]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id KAA32683 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 10:42:22 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08430; Wed, 20 Mar 96 10:37:24 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 150257c0; Wed, 20 Mar 96 10:34:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 10:34:08 -0500 Message-Id: <150257c0@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: sgroup FTP site connection To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Has anyone been able to get into the FTP site over the last 24 hours...I can't. Thx, Doug - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 20 12:05:17 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-1>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:05:12 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <170>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:42:53 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:40:23 -0500 Received: from watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (root@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.128.10]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id IAA03766 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:53:42 -0500 Received: from gcsin1.gecm.com by watserv1.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 20 Mar 96 03:56:20 -0500 Received: from gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin1.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-0121PM) id AA32129; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 08:52:23 GMT Received: from gcschm.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1139AM) id AA26116; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 08:52:23 GMT Disclose-Recipients: prohibited Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 03:51:10 -0500 From: Richard Hanson GMAv +44 1634 844400 x4652 Subject: Re: sgroup S550 editing In-Reply-To: <199603190125.UAA03705@m4.pcix.com> To: sgroup Message-Id: <0610510820031996/A01283/CSD06V/11A3A2330900*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Importance: low Priority: normal Ua-Content-Id: 11A3A2330900 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;0610510820031996/A01283/CSD06V] Hop-Count: 2 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Can someone give me a clue how to edit S550 samples on a mac 11 cx. A > friend gave me a boot of Alchemy 2.5 but I can not make it interact. Does > sample info travel thru midi? Or do you need sound-in capability's? How do > you send samples to the ftp site, format? And can PC's and macs share > samples etc. Thanks, ug As far as I know, the S330, S550 and S50 were produced before the issuing of MIDI Sample Dump Standard (SDS), and so don't respond to programs like Alchemy. Unfortunate. But I would say that SDS is quite s-l-o-w to transfer samples, and with an external monitor it is far easier to edit on the sampler itself. I have a cheap (60 UK pounds) monitor hooked up to my S330, and it's very easy to edit samples. Be even easier if I could track down an RC100. Rich - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 20 12:20:39 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-2>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:20:25 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <171>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:04:51 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <39>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:40:42 -0500 Received: from gcsin1.gecm.com (gcsin1.gecm.com [194.128.74.2]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id IAA01959 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:39:24 -0500 Received: from gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin1.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-0121PM) id AA18108; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:37:21 GMT Received: from gcschm.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1139AM) id AA31292; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:37:20 GMT Disclose-Recipients: prohibited Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 08:31:06 -0500 From: Richard Hanson GMAv +44 1634 844400 x4652 Subject: sgroup Any other sites? To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <9406311320031996/A02377/CSD06V/11A3A35F0500*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Importance: low Priority: normal Ua-Content-Id: 11A3A35F0500 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;9406311320031996/A02377/CSD06V] Hop-Count: 2 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Okay, since there are no mirror sites, are there any other sources on the 'net of S330, S550 or S50 samples in a format usable with SAMDISK? Rich P.S. To author of SAMDISK - good program: simple and useful, best kind! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 20 14:52:01 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 14:51:53 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 14:40:24 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 14:39:34 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id LAA14912; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:39:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 14:39:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199603201939.LAA14912@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup S550 editing Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 03:51 AM 3/20/96 -0500, you wrote: >> Can someone give me a clue how to edit S550 samples on a mac 11 cx. A >> friend gave me a boot of Alchemy 2.5 but I can not make it interact. Does >> sample info travel thru midi? Or do you need sound-in capability's? How do >> you send samples to the ftp site, format? And can PC's and macs share >> samples etc. Thanks, ug > >As far as I know, the S330, S550 and S50 were produced before the issuing of >MIDI Sample Dump Standard (SDS), and so don't respond to programs like Alchemy. >Unfortunate. But I would say that SDS is quite s-l-o-w to transfer samples, and >with an external monitor it is far easier to edit on the sampler itself. I have >a cheap (60 UK pounds) monitor hooked up to my S330, and it's very easy to edit >samples. Be even easier if I could track down an RC100. > >Rich Rich, I thought I remeber seeing an S550 option on alchemy. Ill check tonight. Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 20 16:47:35 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-3>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:47:30 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <180>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:36:51 -0500 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:36:01 -0500 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17165; Wed, 20 Mar 96 16:25:38 EST Received: from ccMail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 150761f0; Wed, 20 Mar 96 16:18:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:19:15 -0500 Message-Id: <150761f0@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil (Douglas Ramsay) Subject: Re[2]: sgroup S550 editing To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I use one of the early versions of Alchemy 2.23 (before it was bought by Passport) and it works fine with my S550 for SDS. There are a number of devices you could configure it for use with...I'm sure subsequent versions have this capability also. Doug ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: sgroup S550 editing Author: Richard Hanson GMAv +44 1634 844400 x4652 at SMTP-GW Date: 3/20/96 3:51 AM > Can someone give me a clue how to edit S550 samples on a mac 11 cx. A > friend gave me a boot of Alchemy 2.5 but I can not make it interact. Does > sample info travel thru midi? Or do you need sound-in capability's? How do > you send samples to the ftp site, format? And can PC's and macs share > samples etc. Thanks, ug As far as I know, the S330, S550 and S50 were produced before the issuing of MIDI Sample Dump Standard (SDS), and so don't respond to programs like Alchemy. Unfortunate. But I would say that SDS is quite s-l-o-w to transfer samples, and with an external monitor it is far easier to edit on the sampler itself. I have a cheap (60 UK pounds) monitor hooked up to my S330, and it's very easy to edit samples. Be even easier if I could track down an RC100. Rich - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 20 21:39:36 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88178-2>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 21:39:30 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id VAA31522 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 21:39:49 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <182>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 21:29:11 -0500 Received: from m4.pcix.com ([204.179.180.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 21:28:26 -0500 Received: from [204.238.232.114] (dial114.pcix.com [204.238.232.114]) by m4.pcix.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id WAA08512 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 1996 22:11:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 22:11:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199603200311.WAA08512@m4.pcix.com> X-Sender: ugmold@pcix.com (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) Subject: sgroup S550/Alchemy Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Doug Wrote With Alchemy, you have the capability of receiving the sample from the S550 to the Mac and doing all necessary editing needed. Set EXCLUSIVE ON in the S550 and use GET SOUND under Alchemy...it'll grab the sample and you should be able to edit from there. Doug I tried the aforementioned to no avail. Tried in Play mode,utility,midi with Exclusive on. I kept getting "unexpected Packet type" with both factory and my own samples any ideas? thanks much ug - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Mar 21 09:18:17 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:18:14 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:02:05 -0500 Received: from isgate.is ([193.4.58.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:01:13 -0500 Received: from folda.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.7.3/ISnet/14-10-91); Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:00:42 GMT Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by folda.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:01:36 GMT Received: from [192.0.2.1] by rvik.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:03:36 GMT X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:01:08 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Subject: Re: sgroup S550/Alchemy Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hello all, ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) wrote: >Doug Wrote: >>With Alchemy, you have the capability of receiving the sample from the >>S550 to the Mac and doing all necessary editing needed. Set EXCLUSIVE ON >>in the S550 and use GET SOUND under Alchemy...it'll grab the sample and >>you should be able to edit from there. > >Doug I tried the aforementioned to no avail. Tried in Play >mode,utility,midi with Exclusive on. I kept getting "unexpected Packet >type" with both factory and my own samples any ideas? thanks much ug Try offsetting the System Exclusive device number by +/- 1. I can't remember which. If Alchemy is set for device no. 2, set the S-550 for 1 or 3. It worked for me. It may have been already said, but I'll say it again to clear things up. The S-550 predates the Sample Dump Standard, so you can't use that. It can however tramsfer samples thorugh its own special standard, and Alchemy (version 2.5, at least) can use that standard to transfer samples back and forth between samples and computer. Beware though, it's slow. A guess is that a 1 second sample (at 30 kHz, mono, 12 bit) will take 1 minute to transfer through Midi. Rikhardur H. Fridriksson rhf@ismennt.is http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Mar 21 20:10:21 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 20:10:11 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:55:41 -0500 Received: from m4.pcix.com ([204.179.180.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:54:45 -0500 Received: from [204.179.183.82] (hingham82.pcix.com [204.179.183.82]) by m4.pcix.com (8.7.4/8.7.4) with SMTP id UAA07257 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:37:59 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:37:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199603210137.UAA07257@m4.pcix.com> X-Sender: ugmold@pcix.com (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) Subject: sgroup S550/Alchemy?? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R My thanks to Steve,Rik,Doug etc who responded so quickly to my dilema...But it is still a no-go. It was suggested that I change the Device ID up or down one compared to Alchemy. What # is the device # in Alchemy, Chanel? Program? Or is this thae program # on S550 play Menu? Midi Channel? Is this set to whtever S550 is set to? Also do I check or un check Midi patcher? Also in Prefs.. Do I chose Midi mgr? I do have Midi manager 2 installed. Or do I chose Midi Driver or Time Peice? Jeez...Please respond before my small brain frys.... Thanks ug - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 22 08:43:13 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:43:06 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id IAA02987; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:43:30 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:28:21 -0500 Received: from isgate.is ([193.4.58.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:27:31 -0500 Received: from folda.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.7.3/ISnet/14-10-91); Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:16:17 GMT Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by folda.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:17:09 GMT Received: from [192.0.2.1] by rvik.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:19:12 GMT X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:16:42 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Subject: Re: sgroup S550/Alchemy?? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) wrote: >What # is the device # in Alchemy, Chanel? Program? Probably Channel. It's a misnomer, though, because in practice, channel has nothing to do with the System Exclusive transfer. You should also set the SCSI number, just in case. What you are actually doing is setting the SysEx device ID. >Or is this the program # on S550 play Menu? Midi Channel? Is this >set to whtever S550 is set to? No. It's under the MIDI menu and called "Device ID". You also have to turn System Exclusive ON in the same window. The device ID should be the same (or offset by 1) as the Midi Channel (or SCSI ID) in Alchemy. >Also do I check or un check Midi patcher? That shouldn't matter for transfer. It's used to route your Midi keyboard through to the S-550 so you can play the sampler through it. >Also in Prefs.. Do I chose Midi mgr? I do have Midi manager 2 installed. You shouldn't have to use Midi Manager unless you have a program that really needs it. It's certainly not necessary for Alchemy. That said, if you're running MM, make sure in PatchBay that Alchemy is routed to the correct port. It should happen automatially, but don't count on it. >Or do I choose Midi Driver or Time Piece? It depends on your setup. If you have a standard midi interface and want to use Midi Manager, choose Midi Manager. If you have a standard midi interface and don't want to use Midi Manager, you should choose Midi Driver. Then, choose a correct port and clock rate in the Instrument/Edit dialog box. If you don't have a standard midi interface, but a Midi Time Piece or Opcode Studio 4 or Studio 5 multi-port interfaces, choose "Midi Time Piece". Then choose a "cable" that your sampler is connected to. Sorry I can't be more specific. For the time being my sampler is away from my computer so I'm not able to verify or look up what I'm saying. >Jeez...Please respond before my small brain frys.... Well, if I remember correctly, I had lots of fried brains at the time I was setting this up. :-) Best of luck, Rikhardur H. Fridriksson rhf@ismennt.is http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 22 08:56:07 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:55:58 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:44:17 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca ([192.58.194.73]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:42:55 -0500 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:27:13 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:26:08 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:26:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:26:00 -0500 X400-Originator: /dd.id=0506648/g=francois/i=f/s=drolet/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.488:22.02.96.13.26.08] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Nobody knows ... From: "francois (f.) drolet" Message-ID: <"5628 Fri Mar 22 08:26:28 1996"@bnr.ca> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Nobody knows this ? S550 SCSI/HD-CD-ROM how ? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Re-posting Someone must know this: I am new on this list, but have been to the ftp site at Waterloo. This has probably been beaten to death but I don't have the time to search thru the entire archive for this info. Could someone please help me? I need to know what HW/SW combination I need in order to be able to connect a Hard Drive-CD-ROM to my S-550. As well I would like to know if its possible to connect the S-550 SCSI chain to a PC's SCSI bus and read the Drive(s)( via S-disk ?) Oh yes, and what is hacker mode ? What can it do for me ? or is it simply used for testing the unit ? Thanks Francois - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 22 09:08:28 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:08:19 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <11>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:55:50 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:43:34 -0500 Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id IAA03407 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:35:11 -0500 Received: from folda.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.7.3/ISnet/14-10-91); Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:16:17 GMT Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by folda.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:17:09 GMT Received: from [192.0.2.1] by rvik.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Fri, 22 Mar 1996 13:19:12 GMT X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:16:42 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Subject: Re: sgroup S550/Alchemy?? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) wrote: >What # is the device # in Alchemy, Chanel? Program? Probably Channel. It's a misnomer, though, because in practice, channel has nothing to do with the System Exclusive transfer. You should also set the SCSI number, just in case. What you are actually doing is setting the SysEx device ID. >Or is this the program # on S550 play Menu? Midi Channel? Is this >set to whtever S550 is set to? No. It's under the MIDI menu and called "Device ID". You also have to turn System Exclusive ON in the same window. The device ID should be the same (or offset by 1) as the Midi Channel (or SCSI ID) in Alchemy. >Also do I check or un check Midi patcher? That shouldn't matter for transfer. It's used to route your Midi keyboard through to the S-550 so you can play the sampler through it. >Also in Prefs.. Do I chose Midi mgr? I do have Midi manager 2 installed. You shouldn't have to use Midi Manager unless you have a program that really needs it. It's certainly not necessary for Alchemy. That said, if you're running MM, make sure in PatchBay that Alchemy is routed to the correct port. It should happen automatially, but don't count on it. >Or do I choose Midi Driver or Time Piece? It depends on your setup. If you have a standard midi interface and want to use Midi Manager, choose Midi Manager. If you have a standard midi interface and don't want to use Midi Manager, you should choose Midi Driver. Then, choose a correct port and clock rate in the Instrument/Edit dialog box. If you don't have a standard midi interface, but a Midi Time Piece or Opcode Studio 4 or Studio 5 multi-port interfaces, choose "Midi Time Piece". Then choose a "cable" that your sampler is connected to. Sorry I can't be more specific. For the time being my sampler is away from my computer so I'm not able to verify or look up what I'm saying. >Jeez...Please respond before my small brain frys.... Well, if I remember correctly, I had lots of fried brains at the time I was setting this up. :-) Best of luck, Rikhardur H. Fridriksson rhf@ismennt.is http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 22 18:57:29 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:57:24 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:46:56 -0500 Received: from kuikka.inet.fi ([192.89.123.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:46:03 -0500 Received: from [193.208.255.185] (user-6-31.dial.inet.fi) by kuikka.inet.fi with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA066748340; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 01:45:40 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:45:40 -0500 X-Sender: eskora-1@pop.inet.fi (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi (Illusion Rake) Subject: sgroup s-750 <---> mac Message-Id: <96Mar22.184603est.114@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Could someone please tell me is there a possibility to convert sounds from mac to s-750 and vice versa? If so, then what programs one should use? Is there any downloadable ftp stuff around? Thanks in advance, IR <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> I l l u s i o n R a k e producer/artist A n n B e l l F e l l on EMI/Flex ProVoice Productions / Duda Records Hameenlinna (FINLAND) int.tel. +358-17-6537 091 int.fax. +358-17-6166 031 email: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 22 20:05:03 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 20:04:53 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:55:03 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:54:28 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id QAA05194; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 16:54:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:54:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199603230054.QAA05194@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup s-750 <---> mac Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Roland just sent me a description of a mac program called Transfer Station which may do the job. At 06:45 PM 3/22/96 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Could someone please tell me is there a possibility >to convert sounds from mac to s-750 and vice versa? >If so, then what programs one should use? >Is there any downloadable ftp stuff around? > >Thanks in advance, > >IR > > > ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> >I l l u s i o n R a k e >producer/artist > >A n n B e l l F e l l on EMI/Flex >ProVoice Productions / Duda Records >Hameenlinna (FINLAND) >int.tel. +358-17-6537 091 >int.fax. +358-17-6166 031 >email: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 22 22:57:27 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:57:15 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:47:42 -0500 Received: from m3.pcix.com ([204.179.180.14]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:35:07 -0500 Received: from [204.179.183.80] (hingham80.pcix.com [204.179.183.80]) by m3.pcix.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05813 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:34:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:34:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199603222334.SAA05813@m3.pcix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) Subject: sgroup Success Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Thanks to all for help. Suddely I got the Alchemy to S550 thing happening. It helped to have a sound downloaded on my Mac to call up and then send to the S550. In my first case I used a wave file, it worked but sounded bad, but originally sounded bad also. This brings up a question?? What formats can I use to cpature sounds with Alchemy and send to S550? Also is Sam a benefit to me? Or is Alchemy the same but better? I also noticed getting samples from The S550 was painfully long and I get the feeling that unless I need some of the tools Alchemy has I will probabley edit my old sounds via S550. This is fun. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 23 02:51:35 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 02:51:31 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <137>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 02:40:48 -0500 Received: from kuikka.inet.fi ([192.89.123.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 02:39:43 -0500 Received: from [193.208.255.197] (user-6-43.dial.inet.fi) by kuikka.inet.fi with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA154126763; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 09:39:23 +0200 Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 02:39:23 -0500 X-Sender: eskora-1@pop.inet.fi (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi (Illusion Rake) Subject: Re:Re:Re: sgroup s-750 <---> mac Message-Id: <96Mar23.023943est.24@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Thank you all "sgroupies" for answering my question!! (concerning mac<-->S-750 sample conversion) Illusion <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> I l l u s i o n R a k e producer/artist A n n B e l l F e l l on EMI/Flex ProVoice Productions / Duda Records Hameenlinna (FINLAND) int.tel. +358-17-6537 091 int.fax. +358-17-6166 031 email: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 23 13:25:07 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 13:24:54 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <138>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 13:02:57 -0500 Received: from isgate.is ([193.4.58.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 11:04:06 -0500 Received: from folda.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.7.3/ISnet/14-10-91); Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:03:41 GMT Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by folda.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:04:31 GMT Received: from [192.0.2.1] by rvik.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:06:39 GMT X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 12:04:07 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Subject: Re: sgroup Success Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) wrote: >Thanks to all for help. Suddely I got the Alchemy to S550 thing happening. Could you tell us what you did? >It helped to have a sound downloaded on my Mac to call up and then send to >the S550. In my first case I used a wave file, it worked but sounded bad, >but originally sounded bad also. Can Alchemy open .wav files? >This brings up a question?? What formats >can I use to cpature sounds with Alchemy and send to S550? Whatever Alchemy can handle: AIFF, Sound Designer & Sound Edit formats. Just make sure you use 16 bit format and not 8 bit. Otherwise you are losing 4 bits (24 dB) of usable S-550 dynamic range. >Also is Sam a benefit to me? Or is Alchemy the same but better? What is "Sam"? >I also noticed getting >samples from The S550 was painfully long and I get the feeling that unless >I need some of the tools Alchemy has I will probabley edit my old sounds >via S550. This is fun. Welcome to life with MIDI and without SCSI. Remember though, that on the computer you can do lots of things you can't do on your sampler. If you have a decent way of monitoring your sounds through the computer, you'll only have to transfer the sounds once or twice. Use the time to do something constructive. :-) Rikhardur H. Fridriksson rhf@ismennt.is http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 23 14:42:36 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:42:25 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id OAA05054 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:42:47 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:21:11 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:20:21 -0500 Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with ESMTP id OAA22477 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:20:44 -0500 Received: from borg.mindspring.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQaihx29658; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mikod.mindspring.com [168.121.26.195] by borg.mindspring.com with SMTP id OAA08825 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: <31543F56.2D47@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 13:13:42 -0500 From: mikod X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uunet!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup@uunet.uu.net Subject: sgroup Alchemy for the mac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Where can I get Alchemy for the mac!! -- from the mind of miko-d - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 23 15:08:37 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:08:33 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id PAA00470 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:08:48 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:49:24 -0500 Received: from acs3.bu.edu ([128.197.153.30]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:47:56 -0500 Received: by acs3.bu.edu (8.6.13/BU_SmartClient-1.0) id OAA73283; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:45:28 -0500 From: jawbox@acs.bu.edu Message-Id: <199603231945.OAA73283@acs3.bu.edu> Subject: sgroup s330 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:45:28 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1138 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > i've been on this group for awhile but > i haven't introduced myself because > i was hesitant about getting a roland sampler. > there are a lot of samplers out there so > the decision came down to affordability over power. > i basically wanted a 12 bit machine taht sampled > and could loop. assigning samples to various midi channels > is a plus too. So the s330 is what i have. > > Here's my question. > i've used an FZ-1 by casio for awhile so i'd like to > know if i can transfer my files to the "s" format. > also can i use a drum machine like an HR-16 and > assign samples via MIDI to the various pads. i know it would be a temporary thing and i'd have to program it and > i know that it's a primitive way to get a controller > feature out of a drum machine but i thought if the AKAI MPC > is designed this way then maybe i can trick the S330 > and the Alesis to work this way. Anyone out there > no the secrets behind the MIDI pages? Let me know. > > as for the group, i'd like to say thanks to whoever created it. > i don't think i would have made the decision without all the > mailings i've gotten. > peace > -PMA > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 23 22:22:54 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:22:48 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:05:19 -0500 Received: from unibase.Unibase.COM ([204.50.10.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:04:28 -0500 Received: from unibase.unibase (srlemcke.Unibase.COM) by unibase.Unibase.COM with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4 for ) id AA28353; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:04:09 -0600 Message-Id: <3154C39E.6927@unibase.unibase.com> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:38:06 -0500 From: Rod Lemcke X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S500 for sale amongst other things... Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6BA01E51DF" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6BA01E51DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to sell my S-550 as well as some other gear listed here. And by the way it's ALL in absolute immaculate shape. None of it is from road-work, all from my basement studio. The S-550 also comes with the RC-100 remote controller as well as the Roland mouse and a whole whack of samples. Great video output too! Here is the list... --
Rod Lemcke --------------6BA01E51DF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="MY_midi_gear_4_sale.html" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am selling the following midi gear.. It is ALL in immaculate condition and has never ever been used on the road, only in my basement studio at home. The list is as follows... MKS-80 + MPG-80 - SOLD Roland JX-8P - Great analog machine. Asking - $325(US) M-1 - SOLD Six-Trak - This is a great analog keyboard that has some awesome bass patch and sound efx capabilities. Built in sequencer too. asking - $265(US) Chroma Polaris - Heavy duty analog power engine with unbelievable midi analog sound power as well as being a great keyboard controller. asking - $375(US) Roland S550 - comes with the RC-100 remote controller, mouse, manuals and sound libraries. Impeccibale shape too. asking $500(US) Mirage - rack mount Ensoniq sampler with "lots" of software and manuals asking $175(US) TX-81Z - asking $150(US) Please reply to me directly at my e-mail address in my sig file or please call me voice at (306)-789-0961 Thank you... Rod L. --------------6BA01E51DF-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Mar 23 22:43:55 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:43:51 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <162>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:24:05 -0500 Received: from unibase.Unibase.COM ([204.50.10.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:22:39 -0500 Received: from unibase.unibase (srlemcke.Unibase.COM) by unibase.Unibase.COM with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4 for ) id AA28476; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 21:07:31 -0600 Message-Id: <3154CA2C.10FA@unibase.unibase.com> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:06:04 -0500 From: Rod Lemcke X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup [Fwd: S-550 for sale amongst other things...] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------19DC11664ADF" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------19DC11664ADF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2nd posting... --
Rod Lemcke --------------19DC11664ADF Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Message-ID: <3154C39E.6927@unibase.unibase.com> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 20:38:06 -0700 From: Rod Lemcke X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: S500 for sale amongst other things... Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6BA01E51DF" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6BA01E51DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to sell my S-550 as well as some other gear listed here. And by the way it's ALL in absolute immaculate shape. None of it is from road-work, all from my basement studio. The S-550 also comes with the RC-100 remote controller as well as the Roland mouse and a whole whack of samples. Great video output too! Here is the list... --
Rod Lemcke --------------6BA01E51DF Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="MY_midi_gear_4_sale.html" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am selling the following midi gear.. It is ALL in immaculate condition and has never ever been used on the road, only in my basement studio at home. The list is as follows... MKS-80 + MPG-80 - SOLD Roland JX-8P - Great analog machine. Asking - $325(US) M-1 - SOLD Six-Trak - This is a great analog keyboard that has some awesome bass patch and sound efx capabilities. Built in sequencer too. asking - $265(US) Chroma Polaris - Heavy duty analog power engine with unbelievable midi analog sound power as well as being a great keyboard controller. asking - $375(US) Roland S550 - comes with the RC-100 remote controller, mouse, manuals and sound libraries. Impeccibale shape too. asking $500(US) Mirage - rack mount Ensoniq sampler with "lots" of software and manuals asking $175(US) TX-81Z - asking $150(US) Please reply to me directly at my e-mail address in my sig file or please call me voice at (306)-789-0961 Thank you... Rod L. --------------6BA01E51DF-- --------------19DC11664ADF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="MY_midi_gear_4_sale.html" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am selling the following midi gear.. It is ALL in immaculate condition and has never ever been used on the road, only in my basement studio at home. The list is as follows... MKS-80 + MPG-80 - SOLD Roland JX-8P - Great analog machine. Asking - $325(US) M-1 - SOLD Six-Trak - This is a great analog keyboard that has some awesome bass patch and sound efx capabilities. Built in sequencer too. asking - $265(US) Chroma Polaris - Heavy duty analog power engine with unbelievable midi analog sound power as well as being a great keyboard controller. asking - $375(US) Roland S550 - comes with the RC-100 remote controller, mouse, manuals and sound libraries. Impeccibale shape too. asking $500(US) Mirage - rack mount Ensoniq sampler with "lots" of software and manuals asking $175(US) TX-81Z - asking $150(US) Please reply to me directly at my e-mail address in my sig file or please call me voice at (306)-789-0961 Thank you... Rod L. --------------19DC11664ADF-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 24 00:45:44 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:45:40 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <166>; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:33:02 -0500 Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com ([198.68.32.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:32:13 -0500 Received: from usr3.primenet.com (root@usr3.primenet.com [198.68.32.13]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA01118; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:31:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from [204.212.59.6] (ip006.lax.primenet.com [204.212.59.6]) by usr3.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11932; Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:30:58 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: mrn@mailhost.primenet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:32:15 -0500 To: Rod Lemcke From: mrn@primenet.com (Mark Nathan) Subject: Re: sgroup for sale amongst other things... Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Not that I'm interested, but....if it has been SOLD why print it in an email of sale stuff? It just doesn't make sense!! -> ->MKS-80 + MPG-80 - SOLD -> ->Roland JX-8P - Great analog machine. -> Asking - $325(US) -> ->M-1 - SOLD _______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________ Mark R. Nathan http://www.primenet.com/~mrn mrn@primenet.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 24 06:58:44 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 06:58:35 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <180>; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 06:44:05 -0500 Received: from isgate.is ([193.4.58.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 06:42:59 -0500 Received: from folda.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.7.3/ISnet/14-10-91); Sun, 24 Mar 1996 11:42:40 GMT Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by folda.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Sun, 24 Mar 1996 11:43:25 GMT Received: from [192.0.2.1] by rvik.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Sun, 24 Mar 1996 11:45:38 GMT X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 07:43:04 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Subject: Re: sgroup Alchemy for the mac Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Where can I get Alchemy for the mac!! It's a commercial sound editing and processing program for the Macintosh. You have to buy it at a music/computer shop. Rikhardur H. Fridriksson rhf@ismennt.is http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 24 20:44:21 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:44:14 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA32415; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:44:27 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:25:59 -0500 Received: from m3.pcix.com ([204.179.180.14]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:25:08 -0500 Received: from [204.238.232.125] (dial125.pcix.com [204.238.232.125]) by m3.pcix.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA17980 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:24:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:24:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199603250124.UAA17980@m3.pcix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) Subject: sgroup Thru App Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hay, Anyone Know of a small app. which will allow you to midi thru to my S550. Thanks - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 25 00:26:03 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:25:59 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id AAA18416; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:26:16 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:13:26 -0500 Received: from unibase.Unibase.COM ([204.50.10.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:12:35 -0500 Received: from unibase.unibase (srlemcke.Unibase.COM) by unibase.Unibase.COM with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4 for ) id AA06485; Sun, 24 Mar 1996 23:12:23 -0600 Message-Id: <315638E7.5A7D@unibase.unibase.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 01:10:47 -0500 From: Rod Lemcke X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Loaded S-550 for sale. Gotta go... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R My S-550 is for sale and it includes the RC-100 remote controller/programmer as well as the Roland mouse, as well as a whole lot of samples. The sampels are various traditional samples as well as lots of voices, special efx, techno, dance, synth, and rave sounds. And it also comes with ALL complete manuals. This unit has never ever been used out of the basement and is in immaculate condition! Asking $500(US). Please reply to me e-mail or voice at (306)-789-0961. Thanks... Rod L. --
Rod Lemcke - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!gecm.com!richard.hanson Mon Mar 25 03:57:53 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 03:57:46 -0500 Received: from gcsin1.gecm.com ([194.128.74.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <170>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 03:57:32 -0500 Received: from gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin1.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-0121PM) id AA00954; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:57:14 GMT Received: from gcschm.geccs.gecm.com by gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/13Mar95-1139AM) id AA10369; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:57:13 GMT Disclose-Recipients: prohibited Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 03:55:26 -0500 From: Richard Hanson GMAv +44 1634 844400 x4652 Subject: Re: sgroup s330 In-Reply-To: <199603231945.OAA73283@acs3.bu.edu> To: owner-sgroup Message-Id: <9925550825031996/A08717/CSD06V/11A3CA371700*@MHS> Autoforwarded: false Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Importance: low Priority: normal Ua-Content-Id: 11A3CA371700 X400-Mts-Identifier: [;9925550825031996/A08717/CSD06V] Hop-Count: 2 Status: R > > > i've been on this group for awhile but > > i haven't introduced myself because > > i was hesitant about getting a roland sampler. > > there are a lot of samplers out there so > > the decision came down to affordability over power. > > i basically wanted a 12 bit machine taht sampled > > and could loop. assigning samples to various midi channels > > is a plus too. So the s330 is what i have. > > > > Here's my question. > > i've used an FZ-1 by casio for awhile so i'd like to > > know if i can transfer my files to the "s" format. > > also can i use a drum machine like an HR-16 and > > assign samples via MIDI to the various pads. i know it would be a > temporary thing and i'd have to program it and > > i know that it's a primitive way to get a controller > > feature out of a drum machine but i thought if the AKAI MPC > > is designed this way then maybe i can trick the S330 > > and the Alesis to work this way. Anyone out there > > no the secrets behind the MIDI pages? Let me know. I don't know of any sample converters between the FZ-1 and the S-330, but you may well be able to use Alchemy which has been discussed quite a bit in the last few days. Providing your drum machine sends note events for each pad, it is easy enough to use it as a trigger for the S-330. I used to use mine in this way - when mapping tones into a patch, just select for example the snare sound you require and then hit the snare pad on your drum machine and on the proviso that you've connected a MIDI cable between the two you should now have a snare sound mapped to that pad. Repeat for each required sample. Rich From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 25 07:51:29 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:51:24 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id HAA08248; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:51:47 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <170>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:37:59 -0500 Received: from isgate.is ([193.4.58.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:37:08 -0500 Received: from folda.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.7.3/ISnet/14-10-91); Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:36:41 GMT Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by folda.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:37:29 GMT Received: from [192.0.2.1] by rvik.ismennt.is (8.6.12/ISnet/11-02-92); Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:39:46 GMT X-Sender: rhf@rvik.ismennt.is Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:37:09 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Subject: Re: sgroup Thru App Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) wrote: >Hay, Anyone Know of a small app. which will allow you to midi thru to >my S550. Thanks What type computer? Never minding what type of computer, any decent sequencer can do this. I'm sure you can find some small ones on the net. Rikhardur H. Fridriksson rhf@ismennt.is http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 25 15:43:15 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:43:12 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:27:21 -0500 Received: from adelicia.belmont.edu ([198.146.88.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:26:31 -0500 Received: from [198.146.93.200] (198.146.93.200) by BELMONT.EDU (PMDF V4.2-13 #5988) id <01I2RBT6O3FK00HC0O@BELMONT.EDU>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:25:17 CDT Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:31:42 -0500 From: strascinal@BELMONT.EDU (Tony Vincent) Subject: RE: sgroup Thru App (Sequencer Offer) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:29:28 -0500 >To:rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) >From:strascinal@belmont.edu (Tony Vincent) >Subject:RE: sgroup Thru App (Sequencer Offer) > >>ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) wrote: >>>Hay, Anyone Know of a small app. which will allow you to midi thru to >>>my S550. Thanks >> >>What type computer? >> >>Never minding what type of computer, any decent sequencer can do this. I'm >>sure you can find some small ones on the net. >> >>Rikhardur H. Fridriksson >>rhf@ismennt.is >>http://rvik.ismennt.is/~rhf/ >> >> >> >>- >>Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >>For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca >______________________________snip_________________________ > >ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t), > >If you're in the market for a sequencer, I have a really solid one for >sale. It's a Roland MC-500. Here is some info... > >The MC-500 was the first sequencer I owned. The unit can sequence 16 >tracks + one rhythm track. The machine itself looks a bit like an adding >machine with tape transport controls. It's very logically laid out is >really user friendly. I don't know if I can give a good enough >description on the sequencer-as the manufacturer could. It is a product >of Roland. Here is a breif overview provided in the MC-500 manual. > > "...The MRC-500 software disk turns the MC-500 into a MIDI >sequencer which will record and playback MIDI performance information. >Once recorded, the MIDI infomation stored into the MC-500 can be >extensively edited. > The format of the MC-500 is similar to a recording device like a >tape machine. The MC-500 has tracks for storage of the performance >information, and STOP, RECORD, and PAUSE buttons which function like those >found on a tape machine. > For example, pressing the PAUSE button will stop the performance >until the PLAY button is pressed again. To record a part, you simply >press the REC button. You may stop recording or playback at any time by >pressing the STP button. The RESET button returns the song to measure #1. >The SKIP button returns the song to its last measure. > The MC-500 is provided with a 20x2 character back-lit LCD which is >used to display pertinent information. Flashing characters can be changed >by rotating the "alpha dial" or by using the Ten Key Pad. > The MC-500 is equiped with five tracks: one Rhythm Track and four >tracks (each can contain seperate parts/MIDI chanels) for entering >performance information. > Performance information can be entered in real or step time. The >Rhythm Track is like a conductortrack in that it contains the meter (time >signatures) and the total song legnth. The Rhythm Track is also used for >programming drum patters when using a MIDI drum machine. > The MC-500 will sotre 25,000 notes in eight seperate songs. The >floppy disk will store aproximately four times the amount of the internal >memory." > >Dave, I hope that this overview describes the unit thouroughly enough. >The unit is great, especially if you're testing the waters in MIDI. The >price is also hard to pass up! If you have any further questions about >the machine, please don't hesitate to write. > > >Blessings, > >Tony Vincent Written Correspondence: Tony Vincent Productions "...Pay no attention to the P.O. Box 159331 man behind the curtain." Nashville, TN 37215 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 25 16:02:12 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:02:08 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id QAA19992 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 16:02:31 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:44:20 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:43:00 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id MAA05652; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:36:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:36:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199603252036.MAA05652@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: Re[2]: sgroup s-750 <---> mac Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Doug, You need to get the roland sgroup newsletter which tells you all about it (one or two issues ago), or just contact the manufacturer. Jim Norman of roland LA (ir004170@pop3.interramp.com) would know how to do this and who the manufacturer is, email him. It sounds like a really good program and its brand new. I think it handles Kurtzweil K2000 format too. At 07:36 AM 3/25/96 -0500, you wrote: > Chris... > > Please give me more info on Transfer Station. What exactly does it do, > cost, point of contact at Roland Corp. > > Thanks > > Doug Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 25 19:59:24 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:59:17 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id TAA29278 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:59:34 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:46:52 -0500 Received: from m3.pcix.com ([204.179.180.14]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:46:18 -0500 Received: from [204.179.183.58] (hingham58.pcix.com [204.179.183.58]) by m3.pcix.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA07806 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:45:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:45:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199603260045.TAA07806@m3.pcix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ugmold@pcix.com (forrest t) Subject: Re: sgroup Thru App Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Rikhardur Wrote > >What type computer? Mac > >Never minding what type of computer, any decent sequencer can do this. I'm >sure you can find some small ones on the net. > What I am looking for is something small in size so while I'm tweaking in other applications I can use my M1 to thru to S550 without opening Alchemy or Trax which may be too large to open with the other crap I got open...Dig? I saw one a year ago, don't remember the name. Thanks ug - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Mar 25 23:03:17 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 23:03:09 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:48:52 -0500 Received: from atlas.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.250]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:48:02 -0500 Received: from by atlas.csusm.edu; id AB02514 sendmail 4.1/CSUSM-GW-1.2 Mon, 25 Mar 96 19:49:13 PST for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <9603260349.AB02514@atlas.csusm.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Nation of Lies To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:43:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sgroup Success Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On 23 Mar 96 at 12:04, Rikhardur H Fridriksson wrote: > Can Alchemy open .wav files? > The latest version CAN handle .wav files. ___________________________________________________________ _|ames \/\/. Thomas |\|ation of |_ies http://www.csusm.edu/public/thoma003/index.html Mail List Info: email w/"help NOL" in subject ___________________________________________________________ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 26 04:24:17 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-1>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:24:03 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id EAA23461 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:24:20 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:12:38 -0500 Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com ([198.68.32.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:11:47 -0500 Received: from usr5.primenet.com (root@usr5.primenet.com [198.68.32.15]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.1) with ESMTP id CAA10108 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 02:11:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from [204.212.59.84] (ip084.lax.primenet.com [204.212.59.84]) by usr5.primenet.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA26460 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 02:11:35 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: mrn@mailhost.primenet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:12:52 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: mrn@primenet.com (Mark Nathan) Subject: sgroup Sorry to ask but,... Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I remember once, a while ago, someone explaining how to section 1 sample into pieces and assigning a seperate key/note to each one. (without copying samples for truncation) I am using a S-330 and maybe you might be able to shed light on this question. I though I saved the last responce regarding this..but evidentally not TIA! Mark Nathan _______________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________ Mark R. Nathan http://www.primenet.com/~mrn mrn@primenet.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 26 10:34:00 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:33:48 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id KAA28664 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:33:44 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:24:08 -0500 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.22]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:23:18 -0500 Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA15112 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:23:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:23:07 -0500 From: PaTripDisp@aol.com Message-ID: <960326102306_256293837@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup s-50 external midi sync? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R does anyone know if the s-50 can be externally synced (like most sequencers nowadays) with midi timeclock? i'm using the tascam 244 and would like to be able to sync some old s-50 files to it. alternately, is there a way to sync the s-50 to my sequencer program (MasterTracksPro 6.0 on a PwerMac 7200)? thanx. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 26 11:34:43 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-2>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:34:38 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id LAA07098 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:34:29 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:20:51 -0500 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:20:16 -0500 Received: from benj4ang.singnet.com.sg (ts900-2728.singnet.com.sg [165.21.9.80]) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA15516; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 00:19:43 +0800 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:19:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199603261619.AAA15516@merlion.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: mrn@primenet.com (Mark Nathan), sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: bangg@singnet.com.sg (Benjamin Ang) Subject: Re: sgroup Sorry to ask but,... Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R using subnotes - -say you sample the sound into Tone 11 -when in Edit:TonePRM mode, go to Tone 12 -using the first parameter, make Tone 12 a sub-tone of Tone 11 -Tone 12 will be a copy of Tone 11 that doesn't take up any additional memory -then in Edit:Loop mode, choose the StartPoint and EndPoint for Tone 12 as you desire -Tone 12 is now a segment of Tone 11 -repeat for Tone 13, Tone 14 as you wish At 04:12 AM 3/26/96 -0500, Mark Nathan wrote: >I remember once, a while ago, someone explaining how to section 1 sample >into pieces and assigning a seperate key/note to each one. (without copying >samples for truncation) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- B E N J A M I N A N G location: Singapore new e-mail address: bangg@singnet.com.sg EML homepage address: http://www.singnet.com.sg/~bangg/eml.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 26 16:30:14 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:30:08 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id QAA21266 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:30:01 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:18:30 -0500 Received: from aurora.cwu.edu ([198.104.65.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:17:39 -0500 Received: from crater.cwu.edu (SYSTEM@crater.cwu.edu) by AURORA.CWU.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #11216) id <01I2SNQ9JOCW0009LN@AURORA.CWU.EDU> for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [198.104.111.39] ("port 1234"@lewis.lib.cwu.edu) by cluster.cwu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #11216) id <01I2SNQ3ALNK90MX3R@cluster.cwu.edu> for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:20:31 -0500 From: lewisg@cwu.edu (Gary Lewis) Subject: sgroup Jim Norman X-Sender: lewisg@clustera.cwu.edu To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01I2SNQ66BUU90MX3R@cluster.cwu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Sgroup, Jim recent informed my that support of S samplers is no longer a part of his duties and he will not answer email on that subject. His email address was listed without his permission. Gary ............................................................................. Dr. Gary A. Lewis, Dean Library and Media Services Central Washington University LEWISG@CWU.EDU / 509-963-1901, FAX 509-963-3684 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 26 17:34:04 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:33:54 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:22:50 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:22:15 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id OAA01432; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:21:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:21:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199603262221.OAA01432@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup Jim Norman Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R SGROUP: Ouch, that hurts, Jim knows all when it comes to Roland samplers, and he is friendly and patient. We didn't annoy him too much did we? At 04:20 PM 3/26/96 -0500, you wrote: >Sgroup, > >Jim recent informed my that support of S samplers is no longer a part of >his duties and he will not answer email on that subject. His email address >was listed without his permission. > >Gary >............................................................................. >Dr. Gary A. Lewis, Dean >Library and Media Services >Central Washington University >LEWISG@CWU.EDU / 509-963-1901, FAX 509-963-3684 Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 26 20:16:19 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-3>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:16:15 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id UAA23641 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:16:13 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:06:25 -0500 Received: from uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:05:47 -0500 Received: by uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15453; Tue, 26 Mar 96 20:04:01-050 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:04:00 -0500 From: Richard Sven Patterson To: sgroup Subject: sgroup jaz drive, syquest 270 and s-760 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi again, I have written to this group before about my continous problems with an s-760 and syquest 270MB. I have in the last three weeks tried everything people suggested with rescanning and active termination on new cartridges. Then inevitable in about two weeks time the same thing happens, MEDIUM ERROR. I have spent over $130 shipping it back to syquest who have replaced the drive three or four times I don't even remember. I have other friends who have syquest on Kurzweil K2000, Akai MPC 3000, Macintosh, IBM and I am the only person who has problems at all. My Zip works fine. My question is has anyone had any problems what so ever with the JAZ drive and the S-760, could those people who use it and have no problems please Please e-mail me as well. I have had it with the syquest and am going to buy a JAZ drive if no-one has problems with it. Also are there anyone in the group who have never had problems with the syquest 270 and their s-760, if so who manufactured the case? Has anybody heard of anyone with Syquest 270MB problems other than with the Roland Samplers at all? thanks in advance, richard sven ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ richard sven patterson hounDog music patterso@uwimona.edu.jm "to fight for truth, justice and the analytical way" 809-924-2898 (voice) 809-925-1247 (fax) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 26 21:14:52 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:14:44 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:04:17 -0500 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu ([128.120.8.183]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:03:27 -0500 Received: from ucdavis.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.1) id SAA12244; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:03:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:03:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199603270203.SAA12244@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szfroggy@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup jaz drive, syquest 270 and s-760 + WARNING:PCT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Richard In answer to your questions: At 08:04 PM 3/26/96 -0500, you wrote: >Hi again, >I have written to this group before about my continous problems with an >s-760 and syquest 270MB. I have in the last three weeks tried everything >people suggested with rescanning and active termination on new cartridges. >Then inevitable in about two weeks time the same thing happens, MEDIUM ERROR. >I have spent over $130 shipping it back to syquest who have replaced the >drive three or four times I don't even remember. I have other friends who >have syquest on Kurzweil K2000, Akai MPC 3000, Macintosh, IBM and I am >the only person who has problems at all. >My Zip works fine. >My question is has anyone had any problems what so ever with the JAZ >drive and the S-760, could those people who use it and have no problems >please Please e-mail me as well. >I have had it with the syquest and am going to buy a JAZ drive if no-one >has problems with it. I just got a jaz drive for my Yamaha CBX-D5 (amazing piece of equipment!). The drive works fine, but is kind of loud when it writes. I got it from ProMax. >Also are there anyone in the group who have never had problems with the >syquest 270 and their s-760, if so who manufactured the case? I bought my rack mount syquest 270 from Pacific Coast Technologies. !!!!!!!!!!!!!NEVER BUY FROM PACIFIC COAST TECHNOLOGIES. NEVER. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONE WORD CAN DESCRIBE THEIR SERVICE: HORRIBLE. Well, actually there are more words, like pathetic, incompetent, it goes on and on. I wish Roland would take them off their manufacurers list. In fact Ive been meaning to warn the sgroup about PCT. PCT: -overcharged me and wouldn't pay me back untill I harrassed them every month for 7 months (by the 7th month I had a complaint form ready for the San Diego Better Buisiness Bureau) -kept my unit for 2 months (they said it would be a week or two), and would lie and say it was in the mail when in reality it had never been worked on. -Never called me back, for sales, technical questions, or the above mentioned refund -I asked for a magazine loading CDROM drive, he said "yeah, the chinon is a magazine loading unit", when I got it, it was tray loading! By the time I finally got my box back, there was no way in hell I wanted to give it back to get the correct CDROM drive and wait another 2 months. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im calm now.... Has anyone else had problems with PCT? >Has anybody heard of anyone with Syquest 270MB problems other than with >the Roland Samplers at all? I have, it had something to do with the firmware in the early units. >thanks in advance, >richard sven Chris Kirkham (916)754-8156 clkirkham@ucdavis.edu Risk Sciences Program Environmental Toxicology Department U.C. Davis Davis CA 95616 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Mar 26 21:29:13 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:29:08 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <37>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:16:05 -0500 Received: from adelicia.belmont.edu ([198.146.88.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:14:30 -0500 Received: from [198.146.93.198] (198.146.93.198) by BELMONT.EDU (PMDF V4.2-13 #5988) id <01I2T24APDLC00HE9O@BELMONT.EDU>; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:08:44 CDT Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:08:44 -0500 Date-warning: Date header was inserted by BELMONT.EDU From: Tony Vincent Subject: Re: sgroup jaz drive, syquest 270 and s-760 To: Richard Sven Patterson , sgroup Message-id: <01I2T24B0MOI00HE9O@BELMONT.EDU> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Richard and sgroup, I own an s-750 and have been using syquest drives for the past 4 years. = Recently, though, I purchased a zip drive (from iomega) and was told = that it would be compatible with the sampler=8B=8B"no problem..." = Well, after talking with a Roland rep. the iomega company changed their = formatting command after they released one to Roland. So, the result? = A new system software for the s-750, s-770. I'm not sure if the s-760 = needs an upgrade, but you may want to find out. Hope this info is a benefit. Blessings, Tony Vincent "...pay no attention to Analog Mail: the man behind the curtain." P.O. Box 159331 Nashville, TN 38215 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Mar 27 18:18:30 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88177-1>; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:18:26 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id SAA20475 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:18:23 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:00:05 -0500 Received: from acs3.bu.edu ([128.197.153.30]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:48:20 -0500 Received: by acs3.bu.edu (8.6.13/BU_SmartClient-1.0) id PAA169891; Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:45:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:45:03 -0500 From: jawbox@acs.bu.edu Message-Id: <199603272045.PAA169891@acs3.bu.edu> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup help with s330 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R my s330 seems to be acting weird. is it that i'm not doing something correctly or is it broken. i go to load the system software and the mouse doesn't respond. also the front panel keys are screwy. do i need to just get the whole unit fixed? it's hard to move aroudn without a functioning mouse. -PMA - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Mar 29 15:04:57 1996 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88176-2>; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:04:51 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12UW) with SMTP id PAA24560 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:04:49 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:39:55 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:38:59 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts008p9.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.100.155]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA18232 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:40:26 +0300 Message-ID: <315CD879.192E@netvision.net.il> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:45:13 -0500 From: ronen_h X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup ROL BACK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO HI i have a s760 question. when i scroll dawn in the load menu ,sample-load,and want sample 764 or so,it takes me a long time to get to the 1sr line,is there a shorter way? this is very frostrating the 10th time ! 10X - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 31 20:25:13 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:25:10 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:08:33 -0500 Received: from head.globalcom.net ([204.111.1.35]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:07:57 -0500 Received: from eb2ppp3.shentel.net (eb2ppp3.shentel.net [204.111.1.99]) by head.globalcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA14115; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 20:07:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199604010107.UAA14115@head.globalcom.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Kit Watkins" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 15:08:09 -0500 Subject: sgroup S770 and creating CD-ROMs Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone have any experience creating CD-ROMs for the Roland S770 (or S760) sampler? Is there any PC / Windows (or other) software that anybody knows about that is versatile enough to read and write the Roland disk format through SCSI? + + + Kit Watkins . Linden Music P.O. Box 520 . Linden, VA 22642 . USA voicemail/fax: 540/636-7313 e-mail: linden@shentel.net web: http://www.shentel.net/linden/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Mar 31 22:33:38 1996 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:33:29 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:21:19 -0500 Received: from mx10.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:16:07 -0500 Received: from TelAviv.netvision.net.il (ts005p6.pop3a.netvision.net.il [194.90.100.98]) by mx10.netvision.net.il (8.7.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id BAA29204 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:17:38 +0300 Message-ID: <315FA057.390@netvision.net.il> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:22:31 -0500 From: Ronen Hillel Organization: RH MIDIstudio X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup 10x 4 the info . Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R thank you all for your help. -- DONT LET THE SUN GO DOUN ON ME. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca