From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 1 11:01:40 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:01:30 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <18>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 10:36:52 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.2.0.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 10:36:00 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (5.64/10.0) id AA04765; Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:33:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 09:33:24 -0400 From: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: <9506011333.AA04765@xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup version 2.19 for s-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I have heard that version 2.19 operating system of the s-760 is out. Does anyone in the group have it, and if so could you binhex it and mail me a copy please. thanks in advance, richard sven. patterso@uwimona.edu.jm From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 1 15:35:05 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:34:54 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <19>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:14:43 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:13:53 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05104; Thu, 1 Jun 95 15:10:54 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA802044744; Thu, 01 Jun 95 15:09:58 EST Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:09:58 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 10 Text Message-Id: <9505018020.AA802044744@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: rec-music-makers-synth@cs.utexas.edu, synth-l@listserv.american.edu, electronica@andrew.cmu.edu, doug_ramsay@csgi.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Using samples with Macs Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi All: I have a Mac LCIII, Alchemy 2.23 and a bunch of samples in .wav, .aiff and .krz (Kurzweil) format. Is there any way I can use these samples with my Roland S-550? I've used SoundConverter to check out the TX16W samples. Anybody know what else I need to do? All help is appreciated... Thanks, Doug From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 1 16:02:19 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:01:32 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77128-4>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:01:23 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <23>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:41:03 -0400 Received: from dn.net ([204.91.31.71]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <20>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:39:51 -0400 Received: from csgi.com (fc-gw.csgi.com [204.91.31.10]) by dn.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA10228 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 14:37:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:26:15 -0400 From: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com (Doug Ramsay) Organization: digitalnation@dca Subject: sgroup Manual for Alchemy 2.23 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-ID: <1142891.ensmtp@csgi.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone have the subject. I never got the manual from the guy I bought it from. I would be willing to pay for postage and copying if someone could mail it to me. Please respond by e-mail also. Thanks $1M Doug - via The Vibe -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sent via digitalNATION the premier FirstClass System (703) 642.0453 digitalNATION access provided by Computer Services Group, Inc. a World Wide Web and Internet Access Provider Phone: (703) 642.2800 or email sales@csgi.com for info -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 1 23:38:22 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 23:38:07 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 23:20:06 -0400 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com ([152.163.172.108]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <22>; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 23:19:16 -0400 Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA078783141; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 23:19:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 23:19:01 -0400 From: Apolune@aol.com Message-Id: <950601231840_19561117@aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S-550...latest System Version? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I am currently using what I am sure is an ancient version of the S550 Operating System and Utilities (1.1, I think!). I could really use the last/latest of these, if someone would be willing to send me binheqxed files of these. Cheers, Apolune From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 2 04:35:30 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 04:35:24 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 04:14:40 -0400 Received: from lantana.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.10.40]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 04:13:49 -0400 Received: by lantana.singnet.com.sg; id AA01559; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 16:17:38 +0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 04:18:57 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: khewss@singnet.com.sg (Khew Sin Sun) Subject: Re: sgroup version 2.19 for s-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Hi, I have heard that version 2.19 operating system of the s-760 is out. >Does anyone in the group have it, and if so could you binhex it and mail >me a copy please. I'd be interested in it too...in binhex as well :-) Thanks! Khew ---High on qfactor *8-P From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 2 07:47:00 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 07:46:55 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 07:23:22 -0400 Received: from atlas.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.250]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <28>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 07:22:32 -0400 Received: from coyote.csusm.edu by atlas.csusm.edu; id AA20482 sendmail 4.1/CSUSM-GW-1.2 Fri, 2 Jun 95 04:34:50 PDT for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from ciscots2-3.csusm.edu by coyote.csusm.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/TM-02) id AA42047; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 04:24:18 -0700 Message-Id: <9506021124.AA42047@coyote.csusm.edu> From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Xevious Communications To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 19:04:10 -0400 Subject: sgroup Is this group still active? Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I sent in a subscription request a while ago... Anyway, can anyone tell me how to convert Samplevision (.SMP) files to W30 format? Thanks, James W. Thomas Xevious Communications Nation of Lies Web Page: http://coyote.csusm.edu:80/~thoma003/index.html thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu voice mail: 619/741-3LIE fax: 619/741-2038 Send email for inclusion on the Nation of Lies mailing list From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 2 08:17:02 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:16:57 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 07:52:02 -0400 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com ([152.163.172.108]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <67>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 07:50:53 -0400 Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA117343836; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 07:50:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 07:50:36 -0400 From: AlanDMuse@aol.com Message-Id: <950602075035_19722090@aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-550...latest System Version? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R In a message dated 95-06-01 23:46:40 EDT, Apolune writes: >I am currently using what I am sure is an ancient version of the S550 >Operating System and Utilities (1.1, I think!). I could really use the >last/latest of these, if someone would be willing to send me binheqxed files >of these. **** I'm in the same boat. I'll second that request. Alan D. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 2 08:43:15 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:43:06 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:18:08 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <67>; Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:16:49 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15016; Fri, 2 Jun 95 07:55:14 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA802105027; Fri, 02 Jun 95 07:51:30 EST Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:51:30 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 21 Text Message-Id: <9505028021.AA802105027@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, Apolune@aol.com Subject: Re: sgroup S-550...latest System Version? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Same here... Thanks... Doug ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: sgroup S-550...latest System Version? Author: Apolune@aol.com at smtp-gw Date: 6/1/95 11:47 PM I am currently using what I am sure is an ancient version of the S550 Operating System and Utilities (1.1, I think!). I could really use the last/latest of these, if someone would be willing to send me binheqxed files of these. Cheers, Apolune From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed May 31 05:59:37 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Wed, 31 May 1995 05:59:29 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77138-3>; Wed, 31 May 1995 05:59:22 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Wed, 31 May 1995 05:42:20 -0400 Received: from uldns1.unil.ch ([130.223.8.20]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 31 May 1995 05:41:24 -0400 Received: from hector.unil.ch (actually pcbf1servcei) by uldns1 with SMTP (PP); Wed, 31 May 1995 11:40:52 +0200 Received: from FS5/SpoolDir by hector.unil.ch (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 31 May 95 11:43:38 GMT-2 Received: from SpoolDir by FS5 (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 31 May 95 11:43:26 GMT-2 Received: from pcbf1cei100.unil.ch by hector.unil.ch (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 31 May 95 11:43:24 GMT-2 From: PRISI MARCEL-PHILIPPE - PREMIERE - 10/10/19 <94411220@pcbf1servcei.unil. ch> Organization: Ecole des HEC Lausanne To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 06:43:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup YES !! WinSDS arrived !! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: <89A7E9E7F9B@hector.unil.ch> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Hi !! For all those of you who were interested in SDS transfers, WinSDS finally arrived on the sgroup FTP site (lotus.uwaterloo.ca) in the pub/sgroup/utilities directory (thanks to J.M. Sellens) ... Enjoy it !! ________________________ M. Prisi - HEC 1er cycle "Life would be an error without music." - Nietzche 94411220@hector.unil.ch ------------------------ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jun 3 11:48:05 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 11:47:59 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <15>; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 11:23:17 -0400 Received: from dn.net ([204.91.31.70]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 11:22:23 -0400 Received: from csgi.com (fc-gw.csgi.com [204.91.31.10]) by dn.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA01873 for ; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 11:17:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:25:01 -0400 From: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com (Doug Ramsay) Organization: digitalnation@dca Subject: sgroup EPS Samples to Roland S550 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-ID: <1173444.ensmtp@csgi.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Anyone out there know of any application(s) for the Mac that will convert EPS samples to Roland format? Thanks... Doug - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sent via digitalNATION the premier FirstClass System (703) 642.0453 digitalNATION access provided by Computer Services Group, Inc. a World Wide Web and Internet Access Provider Phone: (703) 642.2800 or email sales@csgi.com for info -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jun 4 01:20:47 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-3>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 01:20:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 00:55:27 -0400 Received: from atlas.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.250]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 00:54:20 -0400 Received: from coyote.csusm.edu by atlas.csusm.edu; id AA25080 sendmail 4.1/CSUSM-GW-1.2 Sat, 3 Jun 95 22:06:47 PDT for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from ciscots2-11.csusm.edu by coyote.csusm.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/TM-02) id AA53163; Sat, 3 Jun 1995 21:56:16 -0700 Message-Id: <9506040456.AA53163@coyote.csusm.edu> From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Xevious Communications To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:36:41 -0400 Subject: sgroup W30 questions Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R 1) Does anyone know how to convert or compile SampleVision .SMP samples into W30 format? 2) Does anyone out there have a list of SCSI Hard Drives that the SCSI port on the W30 will support (or know of any for sale)? Thanks, James W. Thomas Xevious Communications Nation of Lies Web Page: http://coyote.csusm.edu:80/~thoma003/index.html thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu voice mail: 619/741-3LIE fax: 619/741-2038 Send email for inclusion on the Nation of Lies mailing list From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jun 4 15:56:18 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-2>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 15:56:12 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77152-4>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 15:56:02 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <18>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 15:24:41 -0400 Received: from midway.uchicago.edu ([128.135.12.73]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 15:23:17 -0400 Received: from quads.uchicago.edu (quads.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.63]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id OAA04593 for ; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 14:23:09 -0500 Received: (akarnaus@localhost) by quads.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id OAA20210 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 14:23:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 15:23:03 -0400 From: Alexander Karnauskas To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S-760 for sale Message-ID: Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Being in medical school affords me less time and money than I would have hoped for, thus, with a heavy heart I was wondering if anyone was interested in: A 2 month old S-760 with 18mb memory, approx. $350 worth of CD roms, and the OP-1 digital/video expansion board all for the low-low price of $2500. Anyone interested just drop a line..... Alex Karnauskas (akarnaus@midway.uchicago.edu) The University of Chicago From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jun 4 19:31:16 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:31:08 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <23>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:09:08 -0400 Received: from brahms.udel.edu ([128.175.13.16]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <19>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:08:00 -0400 Received: (from borg@localhost) by brahms.udel.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA18565; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:07:46 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:07:46 -0400 From: Zarge Jeffrey R To: "James W. Thomas" cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup W30 questions In-Reply-To: <9506040456.AA53163@coyote.csusm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On Sat, 3 Jun 1995, James W. Thomas wrote: > 1) Does anyone know how to convert or compile SampleVision .SMP > samples into W30 format? > > 2) Does anyone out there have a list of SCSI Hard Drives that the > SCSI port on the W30 will support (or know of any for sale)? > I have no idea about your question #1... As for #2, I got my hard drive for my W-30 from Sound Logic.. There # is 1-800-753-6558 (orders) and/or 1-619-789-6558 (info).. If you don't have the chip to activate the SCSI port then you'll need that. Their product # is W30SIF (for the W-30 SCSI Interface).. In their 1993 catalog it was priced at $179.00... the HARD DRIVE was an 80MB Quantum drive - product # SL80 which was priced at $394.00 in 1993.. They might have larger ones for the W-30.. All I know is that I will be needing to get a second one soon!! Mine is already about filled! From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jun 4 20:18:16 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 20:18:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <111>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:55:06 -0400 Received: from duncan.cs.utk.edu ([128.169.94.83]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <19>; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:54:16 -0400 Received: by duncan.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id TAA14952; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:54:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 19:54:01 -0400 From: Derek Christopher Jeter Subject: sgroup S50 noise problem To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Has anyone noticed thier S50 being extremely noisy when using the composite(monochrome) video output? I have tried with two different monitors(an apple IIe and a Magnavox) and still get a nasty ground hum as soon as the video connector is plugged into the S50. Also, my S50 will suddenly make a drastic change in volume in volume level. This accurs for no apparent reason. Anyone have any ideas on that one? | Derek Jeter == djeter@cs.utk.edu == http://www.cs.utk.edu/~djeter/ | | Computer Science Department, University of Tennessee, Knoxville | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 5 00:46:33 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 00:46:27 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 00:28:04 -0400 Received: from netcom20.netcom.com ([192.100.81.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 00:26:53 -0400 Received: by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA17167; Sun, 4 Jun 1995 20:58:40 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 23:58:39 -0400 From: Brian Thomas Cheek Subject: Re: sgroup S50 noise problem To: Derek Christopher Jeter cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R This might be dangerous, but has been very successful for me; try to ground lift your video monitor. That cuts down most (but not all) hum in my S770. Then, during recordings, I turn the monitor off. That seems to cut down a majority of the remaining hum. -Brian On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Derek Christopher Jeter wrote: > > Has anyone noticed thier S50 being extremely noisy when using the > composite(monochrome) video output? I have tried with two different > monitors(an apple IIe and a Magnavox) and still get a nasty ground hum as > soon as the video connector is plugged into the S50. > > Also, my S50 will suddenly make a drastic change in volume in volume > level. This accurs for no apparent reason. Anyone have any ideas on that one? > > | Derek Jeter == djeter@cs.utk.edu == http://www.cs.utk.edu/~djeter/ | > | Computer Science Department, University of Tennessee, Knoxville | > > > From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 5 07:17:47 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 07:17:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:53:40 -0400 Received: from atlas.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.250]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:52:49 -0400 Received: from coyote.csusm.edu by atlas.csusm.edu; id AA27444 sendmail 4.1/CSUSM-GW-1.2 Mon, 5 Jun 95 04:05:20 PDT for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from ciscots2-2.csusm.edu by coyote.csusm.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/TM-02) id AA28004; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 03:54:49 -0700 Message-Id: <9506051054.AA28004@coyote.csusm.edu> From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Xevious Communications To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 18:35:34 -0400 Subject: sgroup W30 Hard Drive Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I was reading a responsed to a question on a W30 Hard Drive when my mailer went funny... 1) Anyway, someone mentioned that they were using a Quantum 40 MB SCSI drive with their W30. I have the SCSI chip, the HD Operating System (although now that I mention it, I can't find the disk) and a Quantum 40S. I haven't been able to get the 40S to work. A Roland rep told me that the drive must have the "CMS mechanism," which I have seen printed on an old IBM XT drive, but I've had no luck locating in a SCSI drive. Part of the problem may lie in the fact that I'm really new to SCSI and may not have set the jumpers correctly. I recently purchased an "Apple Crate," but have not purchased the needed cables to hook it up to the W30. To make a long story just a bit longer, to the person who is using the Quantum 40MB, what model number is it? 2) Does anyone know how to compile a W30 disk out of ANY sound format (.wav, .aiff, .au, .smp, etc.)? It would be great to be able to use the features of some of the sound files editors available for PCs now. I'm glad I found this group. I thought I was the only one out there with a W30. Thanks all, James W. Thomas Xevious Communications Nation of Lies Web Page: http://coyote.csusm.edu:80/~thoma003/index.html thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu voice mail: 619/741-3LIE fax: 619/741-2038 Send email for inclusion on the Nation of Lies mailing list From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 5 08:46:26 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 08:46:20 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77131-1>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 08:46:09 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 08:27:06 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 08:26:16 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02381; Mon, 5 Jun 95 08:23:38 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA802365950; Mon, 05 Jun 95 08:23:27 EST Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 09:23:27 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 108 Text Message-Id: <9505058023.AA802365950@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: doug_ramsay@csgi.com Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re[2]: sgroup W30 questions Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On Sat, 3 Jun 1995, James W. Thomas wrote: > 1) Does anyone know how to convert or compile SampleVision .SMP > samples into W30 format? Here's a start (taken from the sgroup msg archives) Doug ---- From: davidw@rnd220 (UNIXMAN) Subject: Sample formats To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Group) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1993 09:36:56 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: R Regarding sample data formats for Roland samplers, etc. Someone asked me how they can use Sample Vision Sample Editing Software for the S-series samplers to get upload and download samples in other formats, such as .WAV, .VOC, .AIFF, .IFF, etc. There is a public domain program called 'SOX' which is available for UNIX and DOS systems. This program converts sample data files from SUN, IBM-PC, DEC, just about any data format you can imgine. The latest version is SOX version 7, and it even does Sample Vision .SMP files !!! I would highly recommend getting Sample Vision, because it is now only about $89 from Turtle Beach Systems. They have a bulletin board # (717) 845 4835 for free Sampler drivers, demos, utilities. You can get free programs to convert raw 8, 12, 16 bit samples into SampleVision format. You can also convert Digidesign samples into SampleVision format. I am in no way affiliated with Turtle Beach Systems, but I think it is a handy program to have for the new low price. Also the sample source code on the sgroup ftp site for reading the Roland disk and converting the 12 bit sample data into one big 8 bit sample chunk should be useful for converting and playing Roland samples on a SoundBlaster. The file SOX7DOS.tar.Z is available on most big ftp sites. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: davidw@rnd220 (UNIXMAN) Subject: .smp file format To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Group) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 13:18:15 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: R Just a reminder to those interested about who knows the formats of all these various sound file types we have been blabbing about: I uploaded the source code to SOX for DOS (or any OS for that matter) to the lotus ftp site. Unzip it and you have .C files and .H include files for ALL the popular sound file formats .SMP, .AIFF, .WAV, .VOC, .IFF, .SND, etc. See the file "smp.c" for SampleVision files and also see "8svx.c" or "aiff.c" for Amiga files. It has all the data structures, headers, etc. for SampleVision files. If that is still not suitable, then someone could fax or scan/e-mail the page out of the SampleVision manual which also gives the specs for the .SMP file format and e-mail it to J.M. Sellens at lotus. By the way, even though I'm always harping on about the Amiga samples, I don't actually have an Amiga, I have a 386. I just steal the Amiga samples :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------- David J. Wilson Knight-Ridder, Inc. 75 Wall St. NYC, NY 10005 UNIX/Network Data Communications phone: 212-504-7845 internet: uunet!krfiny!davidw HP-UX !! davidw@krf.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Johan Pater Subject: Re: SampleVision and W30 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <2589CAF171A@cetis.hut.nl> Organization: Hogeschool Utrecht / Cetis X-Envelope-to: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal Status: RO > Does anyone know if Samplevision will work with a W30? I tried to contact the > sales office but they haven't gotten back with me yet. I've looked at the mid > i > tech specifications in the manual and I saw no evidence that appropriate > handshaking exists to dump sample data to and from the sampler. Does anyone > have any additional info? Hmm, i've got a W30 and thought also that there was no way to dump data from your computer to the W30. In the W30 there is also no function available (i thought so) to dump the samples/patches to your computer. So i believe that the only way to work with other samples is through samdisk so you can get samples/patches from the S50/S550 enz in your W30..... Hope to hear your reaction... Johan Pater ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cetis | | Centre for Educational Technology, Innovation and Stafftraining | | at the 'Hogeschool Utrecht' University for Vocational Education | ------------------------------------------------------------------- | INTERNET : JPATER@CETIS.HUT.NL | PO-BOX 573 | | FAX : (+31) (0)30-368180 | 3500 AN UTRECHT | | PHONE : (+31) (0)30-308117 | THE NETHERLANDS (EUROPE)| ------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 5 11:27:53 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:27:48 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:18:41 -0400 Received: from duncan.cs.utk.edu ([128.169.94.83]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:18:05 -0400 Received: by duncan.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id LAA10645; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:17:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:17:50 -0400 From: Derek Christopher Jeter Subject: Re: sgroup S50 noise problem To: Brian Thomas Cheek cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, Brian Thomas Cheek wrote: > This might be dangerous, but has been very successful for me; try to > ground lift your video monitor. That cuts down most (but not all) hum in > my S770. Then, during recordings, I turn the monitor off. That seems to > cut down a majority of the remaining hum. I thought about that, might give it a shot. I think I am also going to try a higher quality cable between the sampler and monitor. Perhaps one of those Monster Cable Video-Link jobs. Usually I just disconnect the video monitor while I am about to mixdown. But I wish I didn't have to! I wonder if that has anything to do with the volume-change problem? Even if the monitor is disconnected I still get the whacky volume changes. | Derek Jeter == djeter@cs.utk.edu == http://www.cs.utk.edu/~djeter/ | | Computer Science Department, University of Tennessee, Knoxville | From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 5 13:36:56 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-1>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:36:47 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77134-4>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:36:38 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:27:20 -0400 Received: from brahms.udel.edu ([128.175.13.16]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:26:31 -0400 Received: (from borg@localhost) by brahms.udel.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA05630; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:26:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 13:26:21 -0400 From: Zarge Jeffrey R To: "James W. Thomas" cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup W30 Hard Drive In-Reply-To: <9506051054.AA28004@coyote.csusm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, James W. Thomas wrote: > I was reading a responsed to a question on a W30 Hard Drive when my > mailer went funny... > > 1) Anyway, someone mentioned that they were using a Quantum 40 MB SCSI > drive with their W30. I have the SCSI chip, the HD Operating System > (although now that I mention it, I can't find the disk) and a Quantum > 40S. I haven't been able to get the 40S to work. A Roland rep told > me that the drive must have the "CMS mechanism," which I have seen > printed on an old IBM XT drive, but I've had no luck locating in a > SCSI drive. Part of the problem may lie in the fact that I'm really > new to SCSI and may not have set the jumpers correctly. I recently > purchased an "Apple Crate," but have not purchased the needed cables > to hook it up to the W30. To make a long story just a bit longer, to > the person who is using the Quantum 40MB, what model number is it? Thaty's me... but, I have an 80MB hard drive... I don't know much about SCSI either... When I called Sound Logic, they told me what I needed and they sold me what I needed. I already had the SCSI Interface chip inside the W-30 when I got it, but it wasn't completely connected into its socket (Roland gave me a hard time about getting help to find where the chip was in the keyboard)... I suggest calling a third party that deals with SCSI drives (either a Apple computer place or a third party Roland dealer like Sound Logic).. Also, check in the Roland Users Guide for other third party companies.. If you need, I can type up a list of places and send it to you and into the SGROUP list... > I'm glad I found this group. I thought I was the only one out there > with a W30. Me and you both!!!! ****************************************************************************** *For info & bookings * * contact: ******************************* Yes, you saw us * *Jeremy-201-509-9267 ** G A N G S T E R P U M P ** * * Jeremy2470@aol.com ******************************* * * or ** Delaware Hip Hop Ska-Core ** at SXSW! * *Jeff - 302-239-2209 ******************************* * * borg@brahms.udel.edu * ****************************************************************************** * Get the latest GANGSTER PUMP info, news, & files locally * * by calling CRYPT SYSTEMS BBS (302)456-3233 | 14.4k | 24hrs/day * ****************************************************************************** * NOTE: We have no relation to the ska band "Gangster Fun" of Detroit. * * We got our name independently from a porn movie! * ****************************************************************************** From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 5 17:10:04 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:09:58 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 17:01:01 -0400 Received: from msu.edu ([35.8.2.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:59:56 -0400 Received: from philemon by msu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 Jun 95 17:00:26 EDT X-Sender: rrobb@msu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rrobb@msu.edu (Randy Robb) Subject: Re: sgroup W30 questions Message-Id: <95Jun5.165956edt.14@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:59:53 -0400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > >>2) Does anyone out there have a list of SCSI Hard Drives that the >>SCSI port on the W30 will support (or know of any for sale)? >> > I managed to make a cable to go from the W-30 SCSI interface to a 40 meg conner drive that was in a trashed Macintosh. I used an old XT power supply for it, put them in a box, and it worked! (of course I needed the KW-30 SCSI upgrade also) -- Randy >>Thanks, >>James W. Thomas >>Xevious Communications >>Nation of Lies >>Web Page: http://coyote.csusm.edu:80/~thoma003/index.html >>thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu >>voice mail: 619/741-3LIE >>fax: 619/741-2038 >>Send email for inclusion on the Nation of Lies mailing list >> >> > From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!microsoft.com!peterfit Mon Jun 5 21:19:11 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-1>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:19:00 -0400 Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com ([131.107.1.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Mon, 5 Jun 1995 21:18:37 -0400 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA07462; Mon, 5 Jun 95 18:36:39 -0700 Message-Id: <9506060136.AA07462@netmail2.microsoft.com> Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Mon, 05 Jun 95 18:36:39 PDT X-Msmail-Message-Id: BCA05600 X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: BCA05600 From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 03:19:26 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup W30 Hard Drive Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R I've got a Quantum 40MB and a Quantum 80MB drive connected to my W30. I ordered the necessary chip from Roland (US - even though I'm in Europe) for about US$70. That's all I needed. I got the manual from Roland in Europe but it's not absolutely needed. The system disk is available on Compuserve and (if memory serves correctly) it's on the Roland archive. (note : the chip is a Toshiba SCSI chip and apparently can be ordered from chip suppliers !!) (someone on this group confirmed this for me a few months ago) Anyway the install is *so* simple : you place the chip into the empty socket right behind the SCSI "Option" plate. you boot up using the new system disk for FD/HD/CD. Mine is version 1.03 and it's the last version Roland made. That's it. In the menus you'll spot some SCSI menus and the HD format is straightforward. You can even boot from the HD. One weird thing is : When I've got the 80MB drive on the SCSI chain the W30 will boot OK from the HD but if I put the 40MB drive into the SCSI chain the W30 won't boot from the HD !! Beats me : any ideas what might be wrong ? It accesses data from the 40MB drive OK. -Peter "These views and opinions are my own and do not represent the views of Microsoft Corporation. They should not be interpreted as professional advice nor form any part of a product endorsement." ---------- >From: Zarge Jeffrey R >To: "James W. Thomas" >Cc: >Subject: Re: sgroup W30 Hard Drive >Date: 05 June 1995 13:26 > > > >On Sun, 4 Jun 1995, James W. Thomas wrote: > >> I was reading a responsed to a question on a W30 Hard Drive when my >> mailer went funny... >> >> 1) Anyway, someone mentioned that they were using a Quantum 40 MB SCSI >> drive with their W30. I have the SCSI chip, the HD Operating System >> (although now that I mention it, I can't find the disk) and a Quantum >> 40S. I haven't been able to get the 40S to work. A Roland rep told >> me that the drive must have the "CMS mechanism," which I have seen >> printed on an old IBM XT drive, but I've had no luck locating in a >> SCSI drive. Part of the problem may lie in the fact that I'm really >> new to SCSI and may not have set the jumpers correctly. I recently >> purchased an "Apple Crate," but have not purchased the needed cables >> to hook it up to the W30. To make a long story just a bit longer, to >> the person who is using the Quantum 40MB, what model number is it? > >Thaty's me... but, I have an 80MB hard drive... > >I don't know much about SCSI either... When I called Sound Logic, they >told me what I needed and they sold me what I needed. I already had the >SCSI Interface chip inside the W-30 when I got it, but it wasn't >completely connected into its socket (Roland gave me a hard time about >getting help to find where the chip was in the keyboard)... > >I suggest calling a third party that deals with SCSI drives (either a >Apple computer place or a third party Roland dealer like Sound Logic).. >Also, check in the Roland Users Guide for other third party companies.. >If you need, I can type up a list of places and send it to you and into >the SGROUP list... > >> I'm glad I found this group. I thought I was the only one out there >> with a W30. > >Me and you both!!!! > >****************************************************************************** >*For info & bookings * >* contact: ******************************* Yes, you saw us * >*Jeremy-201-509-9267 ** G A N G S T E R P U M P ** * >* Jeremy2470@aol.com ******************************* * >* or ** Delaware Hip Hop Ska-Core ** at SXSW! * >*Jeff - 302-239-2209 ******************************* * >* borg@brahms.udel.edu * >****************************************************************************** >* Get the latest GANGSTER PUMP info, news, & files locally * >* by calling CRYPT SYSTEMS BBS (302)456-3233 | 14.4k | 24hrs/day * >****************************************************************************** >* NOTE: We have no relation to the ska band "Gangster Fun" of Detroit. * >* We got our name independently from a porn movie! * >****************************************************************************** > > From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jun 7 23:14:04 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-1>; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:14:00 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <15>; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:02:00 -0400 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:01:01 -0400 Received: by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA20591; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:03:16 +1000 Message-Id: <9506080303.AA20591@wr.com.au> Subject: sgroup Colour Monitors To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers) Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:03:15 -0400 From: nic@carrot.com.au (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j}; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:42:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:26:23 -0400 Received: from Sun.COM ([192.9.9.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:25:47 -0400 Received: from snail.Sun.COM ([129.145.1.3]) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA20217; Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:25:31 PDT Received: from Holland.Sun.COM (isunnl) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11471; Thu, 8 Jun 95 04:25:26 PDT Received: from aft-ms.Holland.Sun.COM by Holland.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1e) id AA16900; Thu, 8 Jun 95 13:25:24 +0200 Received: from spruitje.Holland.Sun.COM by aft-ms.Holland.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08375; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:26:09 --100 Received: by spruitje.Holland.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06193; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:25:05 +0200 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:25:05 -0400 From: Martijn.Goudkamp@Holland.Sun.COM (Martijn Goudkamp) Message-Id: <9506081125.AA06193@spruitje.Holland.Sun.COM> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup W-30 System update X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 280 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hello ! I copied the W-30 system update from uwaterloo but when I made a copy (with s-disk), my W-30 won't startup properly. It begins with the Welcome to System 1.10 screen (or like that) and then the drive stops loading... Anybody knows why ?? Greetz, Martijn mgoud@sun.nl From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 08:17:44 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 08:17:38 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <18>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 08:09:11 -0400 Received: from ux1.cyberenet.net ([204.213.252.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 08:08:17 -0400 Received: from dahauss.ppp.cyberenet.net by ux1.cyberenet.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sJgNX-000KzEC; Thu, 8 Jun 95 08:08 EDT Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Dave Hauss" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 04:07:53 -0400 Subject: sgroup roland js-30 X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Dave Hauss" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: urgent X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.0-WB3) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R does anyone here use the roland js-30 sampler or know if there is a place on the internet that has stuff for it??? ******************************************************************** * * * Dave Hauss (DJ Qwik-Cut) : daauss@cyberenet.net * * dsvy85a@prodigy.com * * http://www.cyberenet.net/~dahauss * * * * * DJ for UNLIMITED SOUNDS / PARTY CITY ENTERTAINMENT * ******************************************************************** From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 09:16:08 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:15:58 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77164-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:15:50 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <19>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:07:24 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:06:34 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00933; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:04:06 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA802627073; Thu, 08 Jun 95 08:47:33 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:47:33 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 22 Text Message-Id: <9505088026.AA802627073@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S550 OS differences Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi sgroupies: I bought my S550 used with version 1.00. Recently I received the Supplementary explanation manual by Roland for Ver. 1.1. I just downloaded S550_Util_1.15.Z from the site, whcih I assume is Ver. 1.15. Can anyone tell me the difference between the last two releases? I'd like to run the latest and greatest. Is there some sort of supplement manual for the latest version? Thanks...all help is greatly appreciated. Doug ============================================== / `-' / ,,, |[====|||||||||||[:::} My type of "g-strings" \__.-._\ ``` >>>>>>>> Acknowledge Him Productions <<<<<<<< 301.499.7271 ============================================== From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 09:38:20 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:38:11 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <23>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:28:27 -0400 Received: from msu.edu ([35.8.2.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:27:36 -0400 Received: from philemon by msu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 08 Jun 95 09:28:07 EDT X-Sender: rrobb@msu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rrobb@msu.edu (Randy Robb) Subject: Re: sgroup W-30 System update Message-Id: <95Jun8.092736edt.14@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:27:35 -0400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R No one (to my knowledge) has ever been able to get the system disk file to work properly. I did an experiment where I took my system disk, used the s-disk utility on it and converted it to another diskette, and proved that the s-disk utility cannot be used on a system disk. -- Randy >Hello ! > >I copied the W-30 system update from uwaterloo but when >I made a copy (with s-disk), my W-30 won't startup properly. > >It begins with the Welcome to System 1.10 screen (or like that) >and then the drive stops loading... > >Anybody knows why ?? > >Greetz, Martijn > >mgoud@sun.nl > > From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 10:02:12 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:01:59 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:52:04 -0400 Received: from egate1.eds.com ([192.85.154.76]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:51:08 -0400 Received: by egate1.eds.com (hello) id JAA27361; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:50:49 -0400 Received: by igate1.eds.com (hello) id JAA30224; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:50:48 -0400 Received: from cps01.cps.plnin.gmeds.com by Sun.cps.plnin.gmeds.com (4.1/EDS-1.0) id AA08930; Thu, 8 Jun 95 09:50:58 EDT Received: from CPS01/SpoolDir by cps01.cps.plnin.gmeds.com (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Jun 95 9:49:01 +500 Received: from SpoolDir by CPS01 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 8 Jun 95 9:48:45 +500 From: "Brian Layzell" Organization: EDS/CPS To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:48:40 -0400 Subject: (Fwd) Re: sgroup Colour Monitors Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-Id: <9B883A73636@cps01.cps.plnin.gmeds.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > > I need a replacement monitor for my S750. > > Could any S750/770/550 etc. owners who have had any experience (bad or > good) with any of the following monitors please drop me a line or post > to sgroup: > > Atari SC1234 > CGA standard monitor > Commodore 64 colour monitor > > Thanks in advance, > Nic. > Nic, Sorry, I don't have any answers however I do have a question. I have an S-50 and an old C-64 colour monitor in my attic. I assumed that these two pieces of hardware are incompatible since the S-50 requires an RGB type monitor and the C-64 monitor is a composite type monitor. Am I wrong to assume that I cannot use a C-64 monitor with my S-50? My current S-50 monitor (an old Zenith monochrome) is fading fast. --------------------- Brian Layzell --------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 11:07:51 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:07:46 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:59:11 -0400 Received: from duncan.cs.utk.edu ([128.169.94.83]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:58:22 -0400 Received: by duncan.cs.utk.edu (cf v2.11c-UTK) id KAA12561; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:58:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:58:13 -0400 From: Derek Christopher Jeter Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: sgroup Colour Monitors To: Brian Layzell cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <9B883A73636@cps01.cps.plnin.gmeds.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, Brian Layzell wrote: > Sorry, I don't have any answers however I do have a question. I have > an S-50 and an old C-64 colour monitor in my attic. I assumed that > these two pieces of hardware are incompatible since the S-50 requires > an RGB type monitor and the C-64 monitor is a composite type monitor. > Am I wrong to assume that I cannot use a C-64 monitor with my S-50? > My current S-50 monitor (an old Zenith monochrome) is fading fast. The S-50 has both RGB and composite (RCA connector) outputs. The composite video output is noisy as hell... | Derek Jeter == djeter@cs.utk.edu == http://www.cs.utk.edu/~djeter/ | | Computer Science Department, University of Tennessee, Knoxville | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 11:18:43 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:18:33 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:08:33 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:07:37 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03155; Thu, 8 Jun 95 10:58:20 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA802634393; Thu, 08 Jun 95 10:54:41 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:54:41 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 34 Text Message-Id: <9505088026.AA802634393@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, Apolune@aol.com, ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Subject: Re[2]: sgroup S-550...latest System Version? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi.. Did you ever get the subject?? I'm still looking for it also. Doug ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: sgroup S-550...latest System Version? Author: Douglas Ramsay at SPAWAR-MC5 Date: 6/2/95 7:51 AM Same here... Thanks... Doug ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: sgroup S-550...latest System Version? Author: Apolune@aol.com at smtp-gw Date: 6/1/95 11:47 PM I am currently using what I am sure is an ancient version of the S550 Operating System and Utilities (1.1, I think!). I could really use the last/latest of these, if someone would be willing to send me binheqxed files of these. Cheers, Apolune From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 12:44:59 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:44:54 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77166-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:44:46 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <111>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:36:05 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:35:14 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05855; Thu, 8 Jun 95 12:32:49 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA802639860; Thu, 08 Jun 95 12:30:23 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:30:23 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 16 Text Message-Id: <9505088026.AA802639860@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup New CDROM drives for S550/7XX samplers Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Just got off of the phone with Roland tech support (Jim Norman's line). The following info can be added to the list I posted to the group this past February (check 9502.Z in the archives dir): NEC CDR-510 (3X) Toshiba TMX 5201 BR Plextor PX43CSD (4X) I made sure to ask him first if they were also compatible with my S550, since the Feb posting was only for the 700 series. I assume, now, that the listing is for S550 samplers also. Now if I can finally get around to getting one for myself...Any clarification is appreciated. Thanks Doug From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 13:34:34 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:34:27 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <135>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:26:39 -0400 Received: from u.cc.utah.edu ([128.110.48.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:25:49 -0400 Received: from [198.60.30.11] (cts1.cc.utah.edu [198.60.30.11]) by u.cc.utah.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA09034 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:25:31 -0600 Message-Id: <199506081725.LAA09034@u.cc.utah.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 14:25:55 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Michael.Gillilan@m.cc.utah.edu (Mike Gillilan) Subject: sgroup W-30 system disk Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I don't know if this has been fixed yet, but when I first found out about waterloo, I d/l system 1.10 for the W-30. It didn't work. But in the roland directory, somewhere in there, is a system 1.10 that works. I think that the directory is something like /roland/os/w-30 something like that... Hope this helps, _mike_ mwg4616@u.cc.utah.edu ps, I'm selling my W-30, anybody want to buy it??? email me... From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 13:53:22 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:53:05 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <15>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:44:45 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:43:37 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07330; Thu, 8 Jun 95 13:41:04 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA802644182; Thu, 08 Jun 95 13:40:24 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 14:40:24 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 48 Text Message-Id: <9505088026.AA802644182@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: BLAYZE01@cps01.cps.plnin.gmeds.com, Derek Christopher Jeter Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re[2]: (Fwd) Re: sgroup Colour Monitors Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Here are the monitors Roland recommends for the S-7XX series, they may be compatible with the S50: ====================================================================== *RGB MONITORS These monitors require special adapter cables. See the numbers listed below for monitor cables. Atari 1224 Atari 1435 Mitsubshi DiamondScan Commodore 1080 & 1084 Darius TSM-1431 Taxan 610/420 Sony KV1311 Sony PVM NEC 3D Magnavox 8762 Zenith ZVM133 ====================================================================== peace, Doug ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: sgroup Colour Monitors Author: Derek Christopher Jeter at smtp-gw Date: 6/8/95 1:24 PM On Thu, 8 Jun 1995, Brian Layzell wrote: > Sorry, I don't have any answers however I do have a question. I have > an S-50 and an old C-64 colour monitor in my attic. I assumed that > these two pieces of hardware are incompatible since the S-50 requires > an RGB type monitor and the C-64 monitor is a composite type monitor. > Am I wrong to assume that I cannot use a C-64 monitor with my S-50? > My current S-50 monitor (an old Zenith monochrome) is fading fast. The S-50 has both RGB and composite (RCA connector) outputs. The composite video output is noisy as hell... | Derek Jeter == djeter@cs.utk.edu == http://www.cs.utk.edu/~djeter/ | | Computer Science Department, University of Tennessee, Knoxville | From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 15:25:45 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:25:38 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77161-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:25:25 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:17:48 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:16:58 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09269; Thu, 8 Jun 95 15:13:56 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA802649741; Thu, 08 Jun 95 15:14:23 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 16:14:23 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 9 Text Message-Id: <9505088026.AA802649741@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup TX16W Mirror site Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R FYI: Oskar Enokkson's TX16W FTP site (I had trouble connecting to the original site) Doug ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's 130.236.253.5 (winona.rydnet.lysator.liu.se) in pub/tx16w. /Oskar From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 20:24:00 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 20:23:52 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <19>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 20:16:16 -0400 Received: from netcom22.netcom.com ([192.100.81.136]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 20:15:42 -0400 Received: by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id RAA27859; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:14:46 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 20:14:46 -0400 From: Brian Thomas Cheek Subject: Re: sgroup Colour Monitors To: Nic Grant cc: Roland Samplers In-Reply-To: <9506080303.AA20591@wr.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Atari SC1234 > CGA standard monitor > Commodore 64 colour monitor > I am currently using a monitor that used to be connected to my C64 (BMC). The sampler only puts out B&W through composite. The picture is slightly fuzzy, but fully usable. In fact, I've used 8" portable TV's with it, and they are large enough to be useful. I bought a CGA monitor for $5, but I felt the price of the cable from Roland to connect to the monitor wouldn't be worth it, so I tossed the monitor. (I'm not sure if the monitor even worked, but if it didn't there's nobody to repair it). I have never needed color, and have been able to use the sampler just fine. My next attempt is a PC card that digitizes incoming signal so I can have the Sampler on the SVGA monitor. Unfortunately, my experience with a Media Vision card to do exactly this failed since the sampler puts out a non-interlaced signal, and the TV card expected interlaced. -Brian From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 22:33:14 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 22:33:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <18>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 22:25:24 -0400 Received: from relay3.UU.NET ([192.48.96.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 22:24:35 -0400 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQythx10228; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 22:24:20 -0400 Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 22:24:20 -0400 Received: from korgsmtp by korgrd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15930; Thu, 8 Jun 95 19:21:00 PDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:24:31 -0400 From: "Dan" Subject: Re: sgroup Colour Monitors To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>>sgroup Colour Monitors > I am currently using a monitor that used to be connected to my C64 (BMC). > The sampler only puts out B&W through composite. On the S-760, the composite output is color. That's the way that I am currently using it (with an Amiga monitor - apparently commodore is the cannibalization platform of choice!). The picture is somewhat fuzzy; I've seen the sharpness of the S-760 output when connected via RGB, and I'd really prefer to go that route. - Dan From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 8 23:22:47 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:22:34 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <23>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:14:20 -0400 Received: from postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu ([132.236.56.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:13:31 -0400 Received: from [132.236.155.74] (CU-DIALUP-0828.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.155.74]) by postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA11966 for ; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:13:17 -0400 X-Sender: dsw4@postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:14:10 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: dsw4@cornell.edu (Doug Wyatt) Subject: sgroup Colour Monitors Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 23:24 6/8/95, Dan wrote: > On the S-760, the composite output is color. > That's the way that I am currently using it (with an Amiga monitor - > apparently commodore is the cannibalization platform of choice!). > The picture is somewhat fuzzy; I've seen the sharpness of the S-760 > output when connected via RGB, and I'd really prefer to go that route. Yes, and my ancient color TV (bought an RF modulator) flickers and things in red are illegible. I wonder if there's a way to connect a monitor designed for Mac internal video? There's an old 12" monochrome in the closet... Doug --- Doug Wyatt "don't negate, create" programmer, Opcode Systems Inc. #include keyboards, Red Letter doug@dsw.com http://www.io.com/~redlettr [ please note new email address - dsw4@cornell.edu to be phased out ] From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 9 07:40:10 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 07:40:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 07:24:53 -0400 Received: from sara.telepost.no ([193.212.240.44]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 07:24:03 -0400 X400-Received: by mta gw.telepost.no in /PRMD=internet/ADMD=telemax/C=no/; Relayed; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 13:22:24 +0200 X400-Received: by /ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/; Relayed; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 13:22:20 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=dep/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/; Relayed; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 13:23:59 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=dep/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/; Relayed; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 14:16:54 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:16:54 -0400 X400-Originator: axel.strand@ad.dep.telemax.no X400-Recipients: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=dep/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/;1186 95/06/09 13:16] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 1186 95/06/09 From: axel.strand@ad.dep.telemax.no Message-ID: <"1186 95/06/09 13:16*/G=axel/S=strand/O=ad/PRMD=dep/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/"@ MHS> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: Re: sgroup W-30 System update Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hello, I uploaded the system disk update v 1.03 for W-30 from the lotus ftp site, and I've had no problems booting and operating my W-30 with it. I used sdisk to make the boot disk. But I haven't noticed any differences from version 1.00. Does anybody know what changes there are made in the new version? Axel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >No one (to my knowledge) has ever been able to get the system disk file to >work properly. I did an experiment where I took my system disk, used the >s-disk utility on it and converted it to another diskette, and proved that >the s-disk utility cannot be used on a system disk. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >Hello ! > >I copied the W-30 system update from uwaterloo but when >I made a copy (with s-disk), my W-30 won't startup properly. > >It begins with the Welcome to System 1.10 screen (or like that) >and then the drive stops loading... > From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 9 08:31:22 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:31:13 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:20:56 -0400 Received: from sara.telepost.no ([193.212.240.44]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:20:02 -0400 X400-Received: by mta gw.telepost.no in /PRMD=internet/ADMD=telemax/C=no/; Relayed; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 14:19:32 +0200 X400-Received: by /ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/; Relayed; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 14:21:39 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=dep/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/; Relayed; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 14:23:21 +0200 X400-Received: by /PRMD=dep/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/; Relayed; Fri, 9 Jun 1995 15:16:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:16:14 -0400 X400-Originator: axel.strand@ad.dep.telemax.no X400-Recipients: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=dep/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/;1190 95/06/09 14:16] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 1190 95/06/09 From: axel.strand@ad.dep.telemax.no Message-ID: <"1190 95/06/09 14:16*/G=axel/S=strand/O=ad/PRMD=dep/ADMD=TELEMAX/C=NO/"@ MHS> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Non Receipt Notification Requested) Subject: sgroup re:system update Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I uploaded the system disk update v 1.03 for W-30 from the lotus ftp site, and I've had >no problems booting and operating my W-30 with it. I used sdisk to make the boot disk. >But I haven't noticed any differences from version 1.00. Does anybody know what >changes there are made in the new version? > >Axel I meant downloaded. Sorry! Axel From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jun 11 17:20:48 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 17:20:41 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 16:47:24 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.2.0.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 16:46:33 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (5.64/10.0) id AA19637; Sun, 11 Jun 95 15:40:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 15:40:33 -0400 From: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: <9506111940.AA19637@xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup version 2.19 for the s-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I just sent version 2.19 of the s-760 to John Sellens for uploading onto lotus. If you want it more urgently send e-mail to me directly. sincerely, richard sven. patterso@uwimona.edu.jm From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sun Jun 11 22:47:33 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-3>; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 22:47:30 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77833-2>; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 22:47:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 22:32:26 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 22:31:36 -0400 Received: from midway.uchicago.edu ([128.135.12.73]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77834-2>; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 22:31:14 -0400 Received: from quads.uchicago.edu (quads.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.63]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id VAA06583 for ; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 21:26:03 -0500 Received: (akarnaus@localhost) by quads.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id VAA11382 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Sun, 11 Jun 1995 21:25:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 22:25:06 -0400 From: Alexander Karnauskas To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Version 2.0+ Message-ID: Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R To all you S-760 users: (1) What are the advatages/changes offered by the S-760's version 2.0 upgrade? (2) Where can I get a copy (specifically). If not through the "net", can I call Roland up and ask them? Hell, I just bought the thing, shouldn't they be nice enough to send me a copy w/o asking? Thanx Alex Karnauskas akarnaus@midway.uchicago.edu From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 12 11:30:48 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 11:30:36 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <15>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 11:16:45 -0400 Received: from mopo.cc.lut.fi ([157.24.10.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 11:15:44 -0400 Received: (from kuronen@localhost) by mopo.cc.lut.fi (8.6.11/8.6.6/1.17.kim) id RAA16917; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 17:20:26 +0300 (for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca) From: Pekka Kuronen Message-Id: <199506121420.RAA16917@mopo.cc.lut.fi> Subject: sgroup S-550 or S-760 wanted! To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 10:20:26 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 346 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi all ! I'll make this short (for it's commerciality): I'd like to buy a Roland S-550 or S-760 (or something likewise, why not?). At our city & country there aren't too many second-hand S-760's available and S-550's are quite rare also. Please let me know if you have one of the above for sale! Pekka Kuronen kuronen@lut.fi From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 12 11:42:19 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 11:42:14 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <11>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 11:30:07 -0400 Received: from mopo.cc.lut.fi ([157.24.10.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 11:16:08 -0400 Received: (from kuronen@localhost) by mopo.cc.lut.fi (8.6.11/8.6.6/1.17.kim) id RAA16938; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 17:22:04 +0300 (for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca) From: Pekka Kuronen Message-Id: <199506121422.RAA16938@mopo.cc.lut.fi> Subject: sgroup JD-800 sounds To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 10:22:03 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 871 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi all! I've got a Roland JD-800 synth and I'm looking for new sounds to it. Somebody told me there are some well known artists who have used JD-800 in their work (like 2 unlimited). I wonder what soundcards do they have? Or do they make their own sounds? This brings me to my question.. Where can I get good sounds (techno etc.) to my JD? I know Pro-Rec and Sound Source Unlimited but I've never heard their sounds (and there are only 6 rom cards available in both stores). Are all sounds available to JD800 just new data cards or is there a waveform card also included? What kind of waveform cards can JD-800 handle? JV-@@ -type? If anyone of you know where to get some new sounds to JD, I'd appreciate if you let me know! Better, If anyone knows which are the good ones! Pekka Kuronen, a some sort of musician. kuronen@lut.fi From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 12 22:25:29 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 22:25:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <14>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 22:14:18 -0400 Received: from postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu ([132.236.56.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 22:13:28 -0400 Received: from [132.236.155.104] (CU-DIALUP-0926.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.155.104]) by postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA25285 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 22:13:19 -0400 X-Sender: dsw4@postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 22:14:11 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: dsw4@cornell.edu (Doug Wyatt) Subject: sgroup looping Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Here's a Big Question from a sampling beginner ... I have a newfound appreciation for the people who make the ROM samples for boxes like the JV-1080, Proteus, etc ... how do you get a nice looped sustaining tone? My luck in being able to loop various samples has varied widely -- some things are relatively easily loopable and others seem impossible (even with an alternating loop, which seems like it would theoretically minimize abrupt timbre/level changes at the loop points). My friend's EPS seems to have more looping tools than the S-760 (various crossfades, synthesized loop...) I know this is a giant question but even the smallest of hints would help a lot at this point. I've gone as far as to look into Mac FFT analysis/resynthesis tools (Lemur), but even if I use large analysis frames (50 ms) a resynthesized sample can be next to impossible to loop well, which is puzzling because with a 50 ms analysis frame the resynthesized output should be identical for 50 ms, long enough to loop (?) ... but this must get into issues like phase of the harmonics etc ... Are there other Mac-based tools which do more? (See, I know just enough to be dangerous :-) ) Thanks in advance ... Speaking of the JV-1080 wouldn't it be cool if it had an expansion board into which you could load your own samples? I'd buy one ... it would free up voices on the S-760 plus you'd get the 1080's effects, realtime control, additional LFO etc. Doug --- Doug Wyatt "don't negate, create" programmer, Opcode Systems Inc. #include keyboards, Red Letter doug@dsw.com http://www.io.com/~redlettr [ please note new email address - dsw4@cornell.edu to be phased out ] From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jun 13 00:07:47 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 00:07:28 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <18>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 23:58:38 -0400 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com ([192.100.81.125]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 23:57:48 -0400 Received: by netcom13.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id UAA03445; Mon, 12 Jun 1995 20:56:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 23:56:51 -0400 From: Brian Thomas Cheek Subject: Re: sgroup looping To: Doug Wyatt cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Here's a Big Question from a sampling beginner ... > > I have a newfound appreciation for the people who make the ROM samples for > boxes like the JV-1080, Proteus, etc ... how do you get a nice looped > sustaining tone? My luck in being able to loop various samples has varied I recommend looking for loop points not at the 0 crossing (on the Y axis), but at the peak of the amplitude of the wave. In other words, make the Y zoom 2x or more (as long as the sample doesn't hit the top). Then look to make start and end points of the loop meet at the crest of the wave (the top or the bottom of each cycle). This is easier and more forgiving than trying to loop at the middle 0 point. -Brian From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jun 13 01:41:59 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 01:41:52 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77075-1>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 01:41:45 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <19>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 01:34:15 -0400 Received: from vespucci.iquest.com ([199.170.120.42]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 01:33:25 -0400 Received: from [204.177.193.138] (cornutt.iquest.com [204.177.193.138]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA05900 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 00:33:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199506130533.AAA05900@vespucci.iquest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 02:39:32 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cornutt@iquest.com (David K. Cornutt) Subject: Re: sgroup Colour Monitors Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Could any S750/770/550 etc. owners who have had any experience (bad or > good) with any of the following monitors please drop me a line or post > to sgroup: > > Atari SC1234 Not familiar with this one, sorry. > CGA standard monitor I use an old Sony 13" CGA monitor and it works fine. (An EGA monitor should work too, although it won't provide any greater resolution.) Check the connectors first, though. Some of the older PC monitors use an 8-pin block connector instead of the standard 9-pin D-connector. You need a different cable for these. > Commodore 64 colour monitor If I remember right, this monitor accepts composite video only. Keep in mind that the composite output on the 750/770 is monochrome. (And, IHMO, it's really hard to make out the graphics in monochrome. I know because I had to operate that way for a while.) From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jun 13 11:49:35 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:49:25 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77267-4>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:49:19 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <20>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:35:55 -0400 Received: from lulu.acns.nwu.edu ([129.105.16.54]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:35:06 -0400 Received: from [129.105.141.82] (worf.mpc.nwu.edu) by lulu.acns.nwu.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA150977694; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 10:34:54 -0500 X-Sender: dmi941@lulu.acns.nwu.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 11:34:55 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: dmi941@nwu.edu (Dave M.) Subject: sgroup Apple Multiscan 17" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I just thought I would let everyone know that the Apple Multiscan 17" monitor is both Mac and PC compatible, which should make it compatible with the S-series samplers. Later, Dave M ___________________________________________________ <<<< I love my VFXsd, Proteus/1, and ESI-32. >>>> ___________________________________________________ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jun 13 12:13:13 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 12:13:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <22>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 12:04:41 -0400 Received: from msu.edu ([35.8.2.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 12:03:33 -0400 Received: from philemon by msu.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:04:12 EDT X-Sender: rrobb@msu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rrobb@msu.edu (Randy Robb) Subject: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade Message-Id: <95Jun13.120333edt.12@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 12:03:22 -0400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I have a friend that owns a 770, and wanted to upgrade the ram. Is it just a simple matter of buying the ram and installing it, or is it more involved then that? Also, what type of Ram can it take? Is it the standard 72 pin Simms? Thanks-- Randy From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jun 13 13:54:24 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 13:54:14 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <23>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 13:44:56 -0400 Received: from gold.tc.umn.edu ([128.101.115.11]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 13:44:07 -0400 Received: from dialup-3-167.gw.umn.edu by gold.tc.umn.edu; Tue, 13 Jun 95 12:43:50 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: hend0057@gold.tc.umn.edu (Mark D. Henderson) Subject: sgroup Monitors for S-550 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 13:43:55 -0400 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R OK, I know I've seen info going through here the last few days about monitors for 760/770, etc. What monitors will work for the 550? I have an old monochrome which is about ready to die, and would like to get color (RGB) if I can find something used and cheap. How about the Magnavox RGB 80 (saw one for $50)? Then where the heck do I look for a TTL cable (they think I am dealing with dinosaurs at my local computer shop). TIA **************************************************************************** Mark D. Henderson //..."it don't mean a thing hend0057@gold.tc.umn.edu // if it ain't got that swing" Sound Visions -Duke Ellington **************************************************************************** From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jun 13 18:57:31 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:57:29 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:50:16 -0400 Received: from netcom21.netcom.com ([192.100.81.135]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:49:26 -0400 Received: by netcom21.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA18807; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 15:48:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:48:27 -0400 From: Brian Thomas Cheek Subject: Re: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade To: Randy Robb cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <95Jun13.120333edt.12@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R My 770 came with an RAS-something board which took up to 14 1 meg SIMMs, 30 pin. I don't remember the minimum speed rating requirements, but you will get chopped sounds if they're too slow! -Brian On Tue, 13 Jun 1995, Randy Robb wrote: > I have a friend that owns a 770, and wanted to upgrade the ram. Is it just a > simple matter of buying the ram and installing it, or is it more involved > then that? Also, what type of Ram can it take? Is it the standard 72 pin > Simms? Thanks-- Randy > > > From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jun 13 21:24:41 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:24:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:17:13 -0400 Received: from vespucci.iquest.com ([199.170.120.42]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:16:24 -0400 Received: from [204.177.193.138] (cornutt.iquest.com [204.177.193.138]) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA16502 for ; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 20:16:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199506140116.UAA16502@vespucci.iquest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:22:15 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: cornutt@iquest.com (David K. Cornutt) Subject: Re: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Randy Robb wrote: >I have a friend that owns a 770, and wanted to upgrade the ram. Is it just a >simple matter of buying the ram and installing it, or is it more involved >then that? Also, what type of Ram can it take? Is it the standard 72 pin There is an expansion board that must be installed in order to upgrade memory on the 750/770. It takes the single-width SIMMS (36-pin?), the same ones that older Mac II's take. You have to use 4MB ones, though; it doesn't work with smaller sizes. When I checked on this two years ago, Roland would not sell the board to individual owners -- you had to buy the board and installation from a dealer. I don't know if this is changed or not. I also don't know if the board is even still available. (If so, I'm interested too.) Jim? Dave From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Tue Jun 13 22:06:12 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:06:07 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <28>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:58:23 -0400 Received: from netcom5.netcom.com ([192.100.81.113]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:57:33 -0400 Received: by netcom5.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id SAA27142; Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:56:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:56:27 -0400 From: Brian Thomas Cheek Subject: Re: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade To: "David K. Cornutt" cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <199506140116.UAA16502@vespucci.iquest.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > There is an expansion board that must be installed in order to upgrade > memory on the 750/770. It takes the single-width SIMMS (36-pin?), > the same ones that older Mac II's take. You have to use 4MB ones, > though; it doesn't work with smaller sizes. I realize my previous post may have led to confusion, my S770 1 meg SIMMs are definitely not 72 pin, but they _are_ either 30 or 36 (I don't remember), and I believe they were Mac simms. I bought my '770 when the S770s first came out. They may have changed the expansion board archetecture since then. Come to think of it, I believe the S750 and S770 are different in that the 770 goes to 16 meg max, while the S750 goes to 18 meg. Maybe it's the 750's that use the 4 meg SIMMs while the 770's can only use 1 meggers? -Brian From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jun 14 05:42:15 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:42:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:29:01 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:28:09 -0400 Received: from mermoz.ensica.fr ([192.70.110.90]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77140-3>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:27:44 -0400 Received: from magic (magic.ensica.fr [192.70.110.76]) by mermoz.ensica.fr (8.6.10/kit5.1-0504) with ESMTP id LAA21960 for ; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:25:21 +0100 Received: by magic, Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:23:06 +0200 From: "Olivier Balet" Message-Id: <9506141123.ZM9000@magic.ensica.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:23:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: Brian Thomas Cheek "Re: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade" (Jun 13, 9:56pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > I realize my previous post may have led to confusion, my S770 1 meg SIMMs > are definitely not 72 pin, but they _are_ either 30 or 36 (I don't > remember), and I believe they were Mac simms. I bought my '770 when the > S770s first came out. They may have changed the expansion board > archetecture since then. Yes, Mac simms work (I don't remember how many pins they are). > Come to think of it, I believe the S750 and S770 are different in that > the 770 goes to 16 meg max, In the beginning, the S770 could go to 16 Mb max (with 1 Mb SIMMs) BUT Roland introduced a new board (RA750 if my memory serves me well) for the S750 which can also be used for the S770 and which allows to extend memory up to 18 Mb (with 4 Mb SIMMs, 4*4Mb on the board + 2 Mb on the main board) Olivier From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jun 14 05:58:18 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:58:14 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77140-2>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:58:04 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:49:17 -0400 Received: from dares.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.18.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:48:15 -0400 Received: by dares.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA27321; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:47:08 +0200 From: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de Posted-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:47:07 METDST Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:47:08 +0200 Message-Id: <9506140947.AA27321@dares.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Subject: sgroup Apple Multiscan 17" ?? To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:47:07 -0400 Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > > I just thought I would let everyone know that the Apple Multiscan 17" > monitor is both Mac and PC compatible, which should make it compatible with > the S-series samplers. > "should make it" ?? Have you tried it ? The problem is, that all VGA Multisync's only sync > 30 kHz! S-750/S770 and older have a 15 kHz output, which can't be synced by all new VGA's... Correct me, if I'm false, but I think you MUST use an older monitor which can sync 15 kHz. By the way, is a technician listening ? Why is it, that all new monitors sync only > 30 kHz ??? Mickey. From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jun 14 06:09:59 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-3>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 06:09:57 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77140-3>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 06:09:52 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <111>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:59:00 -0400 Received: from dares.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.18.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:58:03 -0400 Received: by dares.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA27338; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:51:42 +0200 From: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de Posted-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:51:41 METDST Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:51:42 +0200 Message-Id: <9506140951.AA27338@dares.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Subject: Re: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 05:51:41 -0400 Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > I realize my previous post may have led to confusion, my S770 1 meg SIMMs > are definitely not 72 pin, but they _are_ either 30 or 36 (I don't > remember), and I believe they were Mac simms. I bought my '770 when the > S770s first came out. They may have changed the expansion board > archetecture since then. > > Come to think of it, I believe the S750 and S770 are different in that > the 770 goes to 16 meg max, while the S750 goes to 18 meg. Maybe it's the > 750's that use the 4 meg SIMMs while the 770's can only use 1 meggers? No! Both S750 and S770 take 30pin standard PC/Mac SIMMS with and without parity (that means 8 and 9 chips per SIMM) and only 4MB and <= 70ns. The real difference is that S770 has an older mainboard revision, which looses control of the on-board 2MB RAM, if you fill all SIMM sockets. Mickey. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jun 14 11:46:53 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:46:47 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:37:25 -0400 Received: from mail.fwi.uva.nl ([146.50.4.20]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:36:35 -0400 Received: from ow15.fwi.uva.nl by mail.fwi.uva.nl with SMTP (5.65c/5.1) id AA14580; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:36:26 +0200 X-Telex: 10262 hef nl Received: by ow15.fwi.uva.nl id AA10349; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:36:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199506141536.AA10349@ow15.fwi.uva.nl> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:36:23 -0400 From: winkelmn@fwi.uva.nl (F.F.J. Winkelman (AI92)) X-Organisation: Faculty of Mathematics & Computer Science University of Amsterdam Plantage Muidergracht 24 NL-1018 TV Amsterdam The Netherlands X-Phone: +31 20 525 5200 X-Fax: +31 20 525 5101 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup editor for the Korg- Wavestation Cc: winkelmn@fwi.uva.nl X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I own a W-30 and that's the reason why I'm in this group, but here's the question: I recently bought a secondhand Korg wavestation to supplement my sampling features on the W-30 with some more synthesized sounds. Now there just has to be an PC EDITOR for this wavestation, I just can't find it... Maybe someone among you other 'Roland-boys-and-girls' also has a Korg or some lead to follow. The details: the computer: 486 DX4 PC (with Windows) the wavestation: exKORG WAVESTATION advanced vectore synthesis wave sequencing (that's what's on the synthesiszer) I'd appriciate all hints and tips!! Thanx in advance!!! Feike winkelmn@gene.fwi.uva.nl From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jun 14 19:04:27 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 19:04:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 18:54:47 -0400 Received: from netcom12.netcom.com ([192.100.81.124]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 18:53:57 -0400 Received: by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id PAA00976; Wed, 14 Jun 1995 15:43:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 18:43:05 -0400 From: Brian Thomas Cheek Subject: Re: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade To: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <9506140951.AA27338@dares.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > The real difference is that S770 has an older mainboard revision, which > looses control of the on-board 2MB RAM, if you fill all SIMM sockets. > Aw! So if I switch RAM expansion boards to the S750 one and trade my 1 megger simms for 4 megger ones, I can't get to 18 megs total? No fun! -Brian From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 15 08:59:23 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:59:17 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:46:15 -0400 Received: from xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm ([196.2.0.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:45:24 -0400 Received: from minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (5.64/10.0) id AA12250; Thu, 15 Jun 95 07:43:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 07:43:18 -0400 From: patterso@uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: <9506151143.AA12250@xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup what processor in the s-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone one know what type of processor is in the s-760? My business partner who has a Kurzweil 2000S and myself constantly make friendly arguments about whose sampler is better. And yesterday I must admit he put me to shame. We do jingles and a client want a jingle faster so we time compressed it first on my machine, by 96% and we heard flamming. Out of curiosity we tried the same 30 second jingle and compressed it on the Kurzweil by roughly the same amount and I was amazed that they were no glitches. I am curious to know if the pitch shifting algorithm of the s-760 is writing in the upgradeable system software or if it is writting somewhere in rom. Of course the Kurzweil took twice as long, but the results were convincingly better. Is the s-760 pitch shifting a processor limitation, or is it something that I can bitch about and have it improved later on in system software. For those not familiar with the Kurzweil it offers you three speeds of pitch shifting, obviously with the slowest one being the most accurate. sincerely, richard sven patterson. patterso@uwimona.edu.jm From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 16 03:27:02 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 03:26:52 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77134-1>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 03:26:34 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <14>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 03:12:17 -0400 Received: from uldns1.unil.ch ([130.223.8.20]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 03:11:27 -0400 Received: from hector.unil.ch (actually pcbf1servcei) by uldns1 with SMTP (PP); Fri, 16 Jun 1995 09:10:52 +0200 Received: from FS5/SpoolDir by hector.unil.ch (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 16 Jun 95 9:14:08 GMT-2 Received: from SpoolDir by FS5 (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 16 Jun 95 9:14:03 GMT-2 Received: from pcbf1cei58.unil.ch by hector.unil.ch (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 16 Jun 95 9:13:54 GMT-2 From: PRISI MARCEL-PHILIPPE - PREMIERE - 10/10/19 <94411220@pcbf1servcei.unil. ch> Organization: Ecole des HEC Lausanne To: Brian Thomas Cheek Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 04:13:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Message-ID: Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 18:43:05 -0400 From: Brian Thomas Cheek Subject: Re: sgroup s770 Ram upgrade To: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > The real difference is that S770 has an older mainboard revision, which > looses control of the on-board 2MB RAM, if you fill all SIMM sockets. > >>Aw! So if I switch RAM expansion boards to the S750 one and trade my 1 >>megger simms for 4 megger ones, I can't get to 18 megs total? No fun! >> >>-Brian In fact, I got S-770 w/ 18Megs of Ram (RAS-750 (I'm not quite sure of the name) W/4Mb SIMMS). The S-770 loses the control of inboard RAM, but there are two more megs on the RAS-750, -> 4*4+2=18 MB !! ________________________ M. Prisi - HEC 1er cycle "Life would be an error without music." - Nietzche 94411220@hector.unil.ch ------------------------ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 16 04:59:30 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 04:59:22 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 04:47:06 -0400 Received: from hypnos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.1.90]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 04:46:21 -0400 Received: by hypnos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA19567; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 10:44:26 +0200 From: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de Posted-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 95 10:44:23 MESZ Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 10:44:26 +0200 Message-Id: <9506160844.AA19567@hypnos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Subject: sgroup Re: what processor in the s-760 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 06:44:23 -0400 Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > > > Does anyone one know what type of processor is in the s-760? > It's an Intel 80186 / 16 MHz. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 16 09:03:25 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 09:03:15 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <15>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 08:47:58 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 16 Jun 1995 08:47:09 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23907; Fri, 16 Jun 95 08:44:32 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA803317565; Fri, 16 Jun 95 08:34:14 EST Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 09:34:14 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 24 Text Message-Id: <9505168033.AA803317565@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, doug_ramsay@csgi.com Subject: sgroup S550 Mouse woes...(again) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Ok folks, back to this subject. I bought an S550 from a guy who used to be on this group. To make a long story short, he talked to Roland and found that the fuse resistor in the mouse port was blown. Does anyone know how much it would be to fix it and is it easy enough for one to go get that fuse part number and replace it without sending the sampler in for repair. Does anyone have a more definitive solution? I'll try to contact Roland for the latest news on that, but in the meantime, all help would be greatly appreciated. Also, if there is anyone one in the DC area that's using their mouse with the S550, I'd like to test my mouse (to see that the problem is not with the mouse itself) with your sampler, if possible. Thanks in advance for all assistance. peace... Doug ============================================== / `-' / ,,, |[====|||||||||||[:::} My type of "g-strings" \__.-._\ ``` >>>>>>>> Acknowledge Him Productions <<<<<<<< Mitchellville, MD ============================================== From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jun 17 05:16:10 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 05:16:03 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <14>; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 04:27:42 -0400 Received: from coyote.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.41]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 04:26:24 -0400 Received: from ciscots2-3.csusm.edu by coyote.csusm.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/TM-02) id AA28764; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 01:28:19 -0700 Message-Id: <9506170828.AA28764@coyote.csusm.edu> From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Xevious Communications To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 16:09:26 -0400 Subject: sgroup Roland E-Mail Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I'm sure this subject has been covered many times before I joined the group, but anyway... Is there an email address for customer service or support at Roland? Thanks, James W. Thomas Xevious Communications Nation of Lies Web Page: http://coyote.csusm.edu:80/~thoma003/index.html thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu voice mail: 619/741-3LIE fax: 619/741-2038 Send email for inclusion on the Nation of Lies mailing list From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jun 17 15:15:33 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-2>; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 15:15:24 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <15>; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 14:17:32 -0400 Received: from midway.uchicago.edu ([128.135.12.73]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 14:16:54 -0400 Received: from quads.uchicago.edu (quads.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.63]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA02366 for ; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 13:10:49 -0500 Received: (akarnaus@localhost) by quads.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id NAA24112 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Sat, 17 Jun 1995 13:10:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 14:10:06 -0400 From: Alexander Karnauskas To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Roland Dance CDROM Message-ID: Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I was wondering if anyone out there could "enlighten" me. Roland came out with a composer's series Dance CDROM a while back, but for some reason they stopped making it. A dealer told me they were making some changes and would re-release it w/in 2 months. That was 6 months ago. Does anyone know what the deal is with Roland "Dance" CDROM (which includes midi sequences on an accompanying floppy)... This CDROM was about 90% of the reason I bought the S-760... what's going on? Does anyone have the "old" version (if so is it a great disk?)? Waiting ohh so patiently, Alex Karnauskas (akarnaus@midway.uchicago.edu) From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 19 07:22:42 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-2>; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 07:22:31 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <14>; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 07:06:05 -0400 Received: from dn.net ([204.91.31.71]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 07:05:12 -0400 Received: from csgi.com (fc-gw.csgi.com [204.91.31.10]) by dn.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA18306 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 1995 05:59:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 07:59:09 -0400 From: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com (Doug Ramsay) Organization: digitalnation@dca Subject: sgroup Fwd: WTB: S-550 SCSI interface (crosspost) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-ID: <1350533.ensmtp@csgi.com> Priority: normal X-Mailer: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Subject: WTB: S-550 SCSI interface From: alandmuse@aol.com,Usenet News To: rec.music.makers.synth subject line just 'bout says it all... Alan D. - via The Vibe -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sent via digitalNATION the premier FirstClass System (703) 642.0453 digitalNATION access provided by Computer Services Group, Inc. a World Wide Web and Internet Access Provider Phone: (703) 642.2800 or email sales@csgi.com for info -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jun 21 00:40:40 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-2>; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 00:40:32 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <15>; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 00:22:07 -0400 Received: from matrix.infomatch.com ([199.60.99.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 00:20:59 -0400 Received: (from wallace@localhost) by matrix.infomatch.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA29878; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 21:20:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 00:20:27 -0400 From: james wallace To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup sending files via email Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R hello all does anyone know where i can get a program to convert w30 patches to windows so i can send them via email to a pal in Australia. I don't know if this can be done but if it can I sure would like to know how? thanks jim :) From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jun 21 02:21:00 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-2>; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 02:20:50 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 02:06:45 -0400 Received: from coyote.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.41]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <12>; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 02:06:10 -0400 Received: from ciscots2-16.csusm.edu by coyote.csusm.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/TM-02) id AA27080; Tue, 20 Jun 1995 23:08:10 -0700 Message-Id: <9506210608.AA27080@coyote.csusm.edu> From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Xevious Communications To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, james wallace Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 13:47:59 -0400 Subject: Re: sgroup sending files via email Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 00:20:27 -0400 > From: james wallace > To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > Subject: sgroup sending files via email > > hello all > > does anyone know where i can get a program to convert w30 > patches to windows so i can send them via email to a pal in > Australia. I don't know if this can be done but if it can > I sure would like to know how? > > thanks > jim :) > The ftp at lotus.UWaterloo.ca/pub/sgroup contains a utility called SDISK that will read your W30 disks onto an IBM. It's DOS based, however it's very simple to use. James W. Thomas Xevious Communications Nation of Lies Web Page: http://coyote.csusm.edu:80/~thoma003/index.html thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu voice mail: 619/741-3LIE fax: 619/741-2038 Send email for inclusion on the Nation of Lies mailing list From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Sat Jun 24 04:24:37 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-1>; Sat, 24 Jun 1995 04:24:32 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Sat, 24 Jun 1995 03:51:03 -0400 Received: from mail.infinet.com ([198.30.154.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Sat, 24 Jun 1995 03:50:12 -0400 Received: from david by mail.infinet.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0sPPvq-000K6ZC; Sat, 24 Jun 95 03:47 EDT Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.6v2); Sat, 24 Jun 95 03:49:30 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Sax section samples? Proteus 1 sax session samples? Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 04:49:30 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-ID: <0105009A.12eu91@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone have samples of a sax section for the S-330? What I am looking for are Alto, Tenor and Bari Sax sections (2 or 3 players on each instrument). Maybe if someone has a Proteus 1 (that has sax samples on it) they could sample the sax sections and place it on the FTP site. Any takes? Thanks in advance, David david@roth-music.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 26 08:45:23 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88184-1>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:45:19 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:24:30 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:23:55 -0400 Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au ([203.2.192.124]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77152-1>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:23:48 -0400 Received: from [203.7.181.19] (slgos1p03.ozemail.com.au [203.7.181.19]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA11371 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 22:17:58 +1000 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:17:58 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: finbar@ozemail.com.au (Finbar Ohanlon) Subject: sgroup S550 SCSI INTERFACE Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi i'm new to the list and was wondering if anybody knew where i could get a scsi interface for my S550 also if any one knew how good the scsi interface is as ive heard a lot of mixed reports Thanx FINBAR Finbar OHanlon Sorry,do you even have any idea about what it would be if you knew or had of known what it could have been if you had only known what it could have been should you have known and nobody there.to explain what you should have known in the first place Guitarist ,Instrumentalist,Production Engineering Voice ** 61 43 653858 Fax ** 61 43 655069 Mobile ** 61 18 438870 Internet finbar@ozemail.com.au From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 26 09:21:51 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88184-1>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 09:21:47 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <14>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 09:05:41 -0400 Received: from opal.spawar.navy.mil ([192.26.7.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 09:04:36 -0400 Received: from smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil by opal.spawar.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02174; Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:59:50 EDT Received: from cc:Mail by smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil id AA804182426; Mon, 26 Jun 95 08:50:20 EST Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 09:50:20 -0400 From: ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil Encoding: 21 Text Message-Id: <9505268041.AA804182426@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, jimw@msn.fullfeed.com (Jim Wohlgemuth) Subject: Re: sgroup FS: S550 SCSI Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi Jim I e-mailed you last week re: my mouse. Thanks for the info. Do you still have the scsi adapter? Doug ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: sgroup FS: S550 SCSI Author: jimw@msn.fullfeed.com (Jim Wohlgemuth) at smtp-gw Date: 5/17/95 9:31 AM I have an HD5-IF SCSI adapter for the S550 which I've never used. First $150 (plus shipping) gets it. All manuals, disk, box, of course are included. Reply E-mail or landline at 608.429.2976 From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 26 15:46:15 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88185-3>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:46:03 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:33:18 -0400 Received: from guardian.brooktree.com ([157.152.4.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:32:29 -0400 Received: from btree.brooktree.com (btree.is.brooktree.com) by guardian.brooktree.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.10G/16.2) id AA185065220; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:33:40 -0700 Received: from eskinpc.is.brooktree.com (pc1326.is.brooktree.com [157.152.13.26]) by btree.brooktree.com (8.6.9/8.6.1) with SMTP id MAA25769 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 12:31:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:31:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199506261931.MAA25769@btree.brooktree.com> X-Sender: eskin@btree X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: eskin@brooktree.com (michael eskin) Subject: sgroup How do I resign from this list? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Sorry to waste bandwidth, but would someone please drop me a note explaining how to resign from this list? Thanks, Michael Eskin Michael Eskin Technical Marketing Engineer Brooktree Corporation 9868 Scranton Road San Diego, CA 92121 eskin@brooktree.com (619) 535-3476 voice (619) 597-4387 fax From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 26 16:06:04 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88198-2>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:06:00 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77127-1>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:05:53 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <18>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:56:09 -0400 Received: from relay3.UU.NET ([192.48.96.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:55:18 -0400 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyvvj20844; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:54:42 -0400 Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 15:54:49 -0400 Received: from korgsmtp by korgrd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23740; Mon, 26 Jun 95 12:27:59 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:30:40 -0400 From: "Dan" Subject: sgroup Hints for pitch-shift and t To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R RE:Hints for pitch-shift and time-stretch on S-760 12:28 PM 6/26/95 The manual for the S-770 version 2.0 was written by Paul D. Lehrman, whose prose is much more friendly and readable and who goes into much greater depth on many topics than does the manual for the S-760. In particular, time-stretching and pitch-shifting operations are much better described. I have typed in a few paragraphs of the S-770 manual relating to these topics, in the hopes that S-760 users will find them helpful. All text is by Paul D. Lehrman, copyright 1991 Roland corporation, except for parenthetical phrases enclosed within <> and signed Dan (yes, that's me). - Dan Phillips * * * * * * * * * * * Range Extension using Sample Rate Convert Another interesting feature of this page is that it can extend the range of a Sample. Normally Samples can be transposed up a maximum of two octaves (three if they are recorded at a slower rate). With the Pitch Shift option on this page, however, Samples can have their range extended. Setting both sampling rates the same, and then setting Pitch Shift to 3 will raise the pitch of the Sample a minor third, and at the same time raise its upper transposition limit by a minor third. If you want to extend the upper limit of the Sample without shifting its position on the keyboard, set the original key parameters to the same interval as Pitch Shift: if you want to extend the range a minor third, set Pitch Shift to 3, and the original key (assuming it is C4) to D#4. Now the Sample will play back at the same pitch, but you'll have an extra three half steps available at the top. This operation is not without a trade-off. Pitch shifting a Sample upwards actually shortens it (the Wave Length parameter will show you this), and that means that the quality of the sample isn't quite as good. If you go a long distance with Pitch Shift, you may be able to hear audible deterioration of the Sample at the original pitch. Pitch Shift can be set as high as 48 (four octaves) for truly radical changes. The Fine parameter adjusts it in 1/100ths of a step. * * * * * * * * * * * Time Stretch Fade When a Sample (meaning a sound) is Time-Stretched, the software takes "chunks" of the original Sample and interpolates, crossfades, and creates many new samples (meaning individual words) to put into those chunks. The size of the chunks is determined by the software (invisible to the user), and the Fade parameter determines how much the chunks will be overlapped when the new sample words are calculated. Generally speaking, the larger the fade, the smoother the resulting sound. However, the operation also takes longer with longer fades. Simple sounds, like sine waves, will stretch fine with low settings of the Fade parameter, while complex, reverberant sounds will need higher settings if they are not to come out sounding weird. When Mode is set to Manual, you can adjust Fade as you like. Life, however, is not quite that simple - it's not enough just to set a high value for fade, it also has to be the *right* value for the particular sound. For you to find that value could require hours of trial and error. Fortunately, the S-770 can help. When you click on Search, the S-770 calculates a new set of chunk sizes that might be appropriate for the current Sample, and resets the Fade parameter to accommodate the new chunks. When it's done, you can click Execute and listen to the result. If you don't like it, click Recover, then Search again, and try the next set. (If you find a Fade value the "sort of" works, you might want to save the stretched Sample under a new name, just in case nothing better comes along.) For the ultimate in assistance, change Mode to Auto. Now you can't adjust Fade at all, and Search is disabled. When you click Execute, the S-770 looks through *all* possible chunk sizes, and decides which one it likes best. It then executes the Time Stretch using that number. While this process consistently yields the best results, the software algorithm it uses is extremely complex, and so there's a trade-off: it can take a while. With complex sounds, this operation might take as long as 100 times the length of the Sample. Pitch Change with Constant Length This operation works just as well if you want to do the opposite to a Sample: alter its pitch without changing its length. This can be useful for creating unusual vocal or sound effects (Darth Vader comes to mind), or fattening a Sample by doubling it at a different pitch. While the same operation is used, the information you need to know is different. The pitch numbers in the blue box will tell you how far the pitch of the original Sample will deviate for a given Ration. If you then want to play the new Sample so that it fits into the same *time* as the original, you will have to change its pitch by the numbers displayed: in half-steps (Coarse) and 1/100ths of a half-step (Fine). Use Ratios above 100% for creating higher-pitched versions of the Sample, and Ratios below 100% for lower-pitched versions. Here's an example: you have sampled a piece of dialogue matched to picture. The actor's voice is wimpy and you want to lower it by a major third. Select the Ratio parameter, and hold down the left mouse button to lower it. Watch the Pitch parameters change. Set the Ratio so that the Coarse parameter says -4 (four half-steps is a major third) and the Fine parameter is as close to zero as possible. We'll save you the suspense: the Ratio will be 79%, and the Fine will be -8, which is pretty good. Now Execute. If you now play back the new Sample from the MIDI keyboard a major third lower than the original key, the pitch will be indeed lowered a major third, but the length (and rhythm) will be very nearly unchanged. To get a closer match, load the Sample into a Partial, where it can be more finely tuned: set the C.T. in the Partial to -4 and the F.T. to -8, and play it back on the *original* key. The new Sample will match the timing of the old perfectly. The same technique can be used to "harmonize" a Sample: create three different versions of a vocal or instrumental sample at three different pitches, and you've got an ensemble. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 26 17:30:45 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88185-3>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:30:37 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <14>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:22:22 -0400 Received: from midway.uchicago.edu ([128.135.12.73]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:21:48 -0400 Received: from quads.uchicago.edu (quads.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.63]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id QAA06328 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:21:44 -0500 Received: (akarnaus@localhost) by quads.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id QAA29220 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:21:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 17:21:25 -0400 From: Alexander Karnauskas To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S-760 for cheap(er) Message-ID: Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R S-760 w/18MB Ram, OP-1 EXP. board, for $2100. E-me. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Mon Jun 26 21:53:16 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88184-3>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 21:53:10 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <19>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 21:44:22 -0400 Received: from jaguNET.com ([204.183.121.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 21:43:33 -0400 Received: from spunky.jaguNET.com by jaguNET.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sQPgS-000FvnC; Mon, 26 Jun 95 21:43 EDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 21:43:00 -0400 X-Sender: lindell@pophost.jagunet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: lindell@jagunet.com (Mark Lindell) Subject: sgroup Reading S50 Sample Disks X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hello, This is my first post to this group since joining two weeks ago. I own a Roland S50 keyboard and was wondering if there is anyway to convert the sample disks to a format that I can read using my standard PC sample editing tools. I found the utility to read and write S50 disks on a PC but was wondering if there was a utility to extract the samples to some common format. Anyone seen a utility like this or know the format of the data? Any help would be appreciated. Also on the same note, was there ever a upgrade to the S50 O.S. that allowed MIDI sample dumps? Mark Lindell From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Wed Jun 28 17:50:51 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88185-3>; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:50:46 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:35:48 -0400 Received: from nova ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:35:08 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA28592; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:33:58 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA03695; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 14:36:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 17:36:08 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199506282136.OAA03695@demon.corp.portal.com> To: finbar@ozemail.com.au Subject: Re: sgroup S550 SCSI INTERFACE Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I was lucky enough to find someone on the net that could sell me a SCSI interface used for $50. It took a LONG time to find that person. In addition, a half-speed roland cd-rom drive was like $400(that's the only one that will work with the S-550) but it did include the ROland sample lib on CD. Then I got a couple other CD's at about $100/each. The net result was around $500-$600 worth of hardware but maybe a Gig of samples for my S-550 in an easier to load/find format. The drive is really noisy and slow. but it does work. If you plan on keeping the S-550 for a while and using, I would try to get the same setup. Its real nice for what it does. I don't plan on buying another sampler for quite a while. Other items take priority over a new sampler, so spending a few hundred bucks to have 4 times as many samples for it on a non-viotile storage format(other than floppies) was a good decision for me. Also, I still happen to think that the S-550 is a hot sounding unit with a lot of hot sounding samples. Maybe its not 16 bit stereo, but there are a lot of totally useable sounds in those libs. Lots of meat and potatoes stuff. Anyway....... -steve ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Jun 26 05:47:45 1995 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 08:17:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: finbar@ozemail.com.au (Finbar Ohanlon) Subject: sgroup S550 SCSI INTERFACE Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Length: 664 Hi i'm new to the list and was wondering if anybody knew where i could get a scsi interface for my S550 also if any one knew how good the scsi interface is as ive heard a lot of mixed reports Thanx FINBAR Finbar OHanlon Sorry,do you even have any idea about what it would be if you knew or had of known what it could have been if you had only known what it could have been should you have known and nobody there.to explain what you should have known in the first place Guitarist ,Instrumentalist,Production Engineering Voice ** 61 43 653858 Fax ** 61 43 655069 Mobile ** 61 18 438870 Internet finbar@ozemail.com.au ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 29 00:17:57 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88184-1>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:17:45 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <14>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:08:51 -0400 Received: from coyote.csusm.edu ([144.37.1.41]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 00:08:00 -0400 Received: from ciscots2-11.csusm.edu by coyote.csusm.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/TM-02) id AA37091; Wed, 28 Jun 1995 21:09:57 -0700 Message-Id: <9506290409.AA37091@coyote.csusm.edu> From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Xevious Communications To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 28 Jun 1995 11:49:36 -0400 Subject: sgroup W30 CD drive Reply-To: thoma003@coyote.csusm.edu Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO Does anyone know if you have to use the CD-5 drive with the W30, or can you just use a standard SCSI drive? Also, when hooking up a HD to the W30, what are people's experiences with using a terminating resistor? Thanks, ___________________________________________________________ _|ames \/\/. Thomas >; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 18:07:46 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:53:17 -0400 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com ([152.163.172.66]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:52:27 -0400 Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA275832731; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:52:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 17:52:11 -0400 From: AlanDMuse@aol.com Message-Id: <950629175210_105028330@aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S550 SCSI INTERFACE Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R In a message dated 95-06-28 17:54:29 EDT, Steve wrote: >I was lucky enough to find someone on the net that could sell me >a SCSI interface used for $50. It took a LONG time to find that >person. In addition, a half-speed roland cd-rom drive was like >$400(that's the only one that will work with the S-550) ****** Can anyone confirm if this is true - the part about the S-550 only working with a 1/2 speed Roland CD ROM drive, I mean.... Alan D. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Thu Jun 29 21:34:18 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 21:34:09 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <15>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 21:26:05 -0400 Received: from wavefront.wti.com ([144.253.1.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <14>; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 21:25:13 -0400 Received: from stingray.wti.com by wavefront.wti.com (4.1/SMI-1.0-WTI Special) id AA20744; Thu, 29 Jun 95 18:11:27 PDT Received: by stingray.wti.com (940816.SGI.8.6.9/Wavefront-Client-2.0) id SAA21377; Thu, 29 Jun 1995 18:10:45 -0700 From: "Rob Jones" Message-Id: <9506291810.ZM21375@stingray.wti.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 1995 21:10:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: Steve Schow "Re: sgroup S550 SCSI INTERFACE" (Jun 28, 5:36pm) References: <199506282136.OAA03695@demon.corp.portal.com> X-Face: `\n X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S550 SCSI INTERFACE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone know where to get a S-50 SCSI interface? I've got a hard drive sitting around (it used to be hooked to a W-30) and would really like to use it. ANY help appreciated! aTdHvAaNnKcSe Rob -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Jones (rob@wti.com) "In one way or another we Support Dude are all going to Reseda..." Alias/Wavefront Santa Barbara, CA http://www.wti.com/~rob ---------------------------------------------------------------- From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 30 13:28:48 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88198-3>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:28:39 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77144-3>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:28:24 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:12:33 -0400 Received: from midway.uchicago.edu ([128.135.12.73]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:11:43 -0400 Received: from [128.135.49.89] (gi-mac4.bsd.uchicago.edu [128.135.49.89]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id MAA24151 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 12:11:36 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 13:15:43 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: akarnaus@midway.uchicago.edu (Alex Karnauskas) Subject: sgroup FOR SALE Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I have a few CDROMS for the S-760 and 1 sample CD for sale. If you are interested and want details, just let me know. I also have an NEC 4X CDROM SCSI drive that I can part with for cheap. Alex Karnauskas (akarnaus@midway.uchicago.edu) From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 30 14:43:00 1995 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88199-1>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:42:50 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77133-4>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:42:43 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <14>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:33:43 -0400 Received: from postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu ([132.236.56.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:32:54 -0400 Received: from [132.236.155.105] (CU-DIALUP-0803.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.155.49]) by postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA22262 for ; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:32:41 -0400 X-Sender: dsw4@postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 14:33:27 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: dsw4@cornell.edu (Doug Wyatt) Subject: Re: sgroup FOR SALE Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 13:15 6/30/95, Alex Karnauskas wrote: > I have a few CDROMS for the S-760 and 1 sample CD for sale. If you are > interested and want details, just let me know. Please tell me about them. Doug --- Doug Wyatt "don't negate, create" programmer, Opcode Systems Inc. keyboards, Red Letter doug@opcode.com NEW==> http://www.lightlink.com/doug [ please note new email address - dsw4@cornell.edu to be phased out ] From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 30 19:58:37 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88185-2>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:58:36 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <16>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:46:14 -0400 Received: from mail06.mail.aol.com ([152.163.172.108]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:45:25 -0400 Received: by mail06.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA034715921; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:45:21 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 19:45:21 -0400 From: AlanDMuse@aol.com Message-Id: <950630194520_81837473@aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup W30 questions Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Did we ever settle upon what the latest and greatest op systems were available for the S-330 and S-550. I've got v 1.11 for the 550. Anyone willing to dump a later release to some disks (which I can send you)? Also -- stupid question -- I'm having trouble finding my way back to the ftp site. Can someone refresh my memory. Thanks :) Alan D. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!owner-sgroup Fri Jun 30 22:28:33 1995 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88185-2>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 22:28:23 -0400 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <12>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 22:20:12 -0400 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com ([152.163.172.53]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <11>; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 22:19:23 -0400 Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA237995152; Fri, 30 Jun 1995 22:19:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Jun 1995 22:19:12 -0400 From: Apolune@aol.com Message-Id: <950630221912_105901906@aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup W30 questions Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Did we ever settle upon what the latest and greatest op >systems were >available for the S-330 and S-550. I am still interested to know this...I want to open W-30 sounds on my S550, but my version of the OS doesn't support it. If anyone out there can open W-30 samples on their S550, why don't they let us know what system they're using! Steve --------------------- Forwarded message: From: AlanDMuse@aol.com Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: 95-06-30 20:07:38 EDT Did we ever settle upon what the latest and greatest op systems were available for the S-330 and S-550. I've got v 1.11 for the 550. Anyone willing to dump a later release to some disks (which I can send you)? Also -- stupid question -- I'm having trouble finding my way back to the ftp site. Can someone refresh my memory. Thanks :) Alan D.