From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 2 07:06:01 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sun, 2 Oct 1994 07:05:59 -0400 Received: from relay2.geis.com ([192.77.188.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <67>; Sun, 2 Oct 1994 06:44:11 -0400 Received: by relay2.geis.com (1.37.109.10G/15.6) id AA215434638; Sun, 2 Oct 1994 10:43:59 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.geis.com Message-Id: <199410021043.AA215434638@relay2.geis.com> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 06:39:00 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: S-760 X-Genie-Id: 1533517 X-Genie-From: T.DUNBAR2 Status: R Hey there, Ho there! I'm new to this BB and am wondering if anyone else around here is using an S-760? I recently got one and was hoping to contact other people using it. Also does anyone know a good place to get CD-ROM disks for Roland samplers? What should one expect to pay for one that Roland advertises for say, $195? (I noticed in their latest user group magazine that all the previously priced $175 CD's are now priced at $195. :-< ) Thanks - Tommy From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 2 17:41:26 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Sun, 2 Oct 1994 17:41:15 -0400 Received: from gate.compart.fi ([193.64.198.200]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Sun, 2 Oct 1994 17:26:38 -0400 Received: (from jsalo@localhost) by gate.compart.fi (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA01809 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Sun, 2 Oct 1994 23:24:29 +0200 From: Jouni Salo Message-Id: <199410022124.XAA01809@gate.compart.fi> Subject: S-10 samples ftp site To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sun, 2 Oct 1994 17:24:28 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 352 Status: RO Dear S-10 owners, We have set up a small site to share our S-10 samples. If you own a dear old S-10 or compatible model and want to share your samples with us: ftp compart.fi and the directory is: /S-10 Please zip your uploads individually and use a generic sysex dump software, like mdf. Jouni Salo admin of compart.fi site From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 4 02:54:06 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 02:53:53 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77540-2>; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 02:53:43 -0400 Received: from netcom3.netcom.com ([192.100.81.103]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <180>; Tue, 4 Oct 1994 02:42:00 -0400 Received: by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id XAA25091; Mon, 3 Oct 1994 23:41:06 -0700 From: sgs@netcom.com (Q-source (Stan Sawyer)) Message-Id: <199410040641.XAA25091@netcom3.netcom.com> Subject: S-50/550 library fs To: FPOTTER@delphi.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, jerry@nli.com Date: Tue, 4 Oct 1994 02:41:05 -0400 Cc: sgs@netcom.com (Q-source (Stan Sawyer)) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 5937 Status: R S-50/550 sound library for sale: I have over 90 diskettes in my S-550 library. The 550 is sold, but the buyer didn't initially ask for the library. Make me an offer. The whole set goes to the highest bidder willing to pay shipping. (There's some urgency for me in getting these out the door since I'm re-setting my home studio after selling off the equipment that I no longer use.) The Roland series were all copied from the originals, so the labels are hand written. The Outrigger diskettes are the originals. (There are also over 40 additional diskettes that I cannot identify without the 550 and over 40 new/recycled diskettes that I'll throw in for free since I have no need for low density diskettes.) Here's the listing: Sound category My diskette name Roland or Outrigger diskette # -------------- ---------------- ------------------------------ system (2) "Dir-S demo 2" Director-S for S-50 S-550/330 converter for S-50 effects (13) 50's TV Hollywood FX RSB-508 #? Wild Kingdom Jet Strings RSB-5502 #? Anarchy Comedy Props RSB-508 #? Space FX RSB-507 #? Train Ride/Air Base Jungle Windy City SNS-4 #36 Nature 1 SSS-2 #12 Brookside SSS-6 #60 Anklungs and Wind RSB-503 #10 strings (4) Strings (1st violin, 2nd violin, viola, cello, contrabass) RSB-5503 #? Full/soft strings Full strings RSB-5503 #? MIDI #1/good strings orchestral (7) Stereo Orch. Effects "suspense orchestra" New strings/EP/choir Orchestra (tune-up, fantasia, flute chord) "Classic" E2 Orchords & Timpani SNS-1 #03 Electronic Orchestra SJS-1 #07 ethnic & percussive (15)Glass, toy xylo, glass xylo, toys, music box, bowls/files Latin perc. (Cuban & Brazilian) Good Orch. Perc. (timpani, tub. bells, mallet cymbal) Exotic Perc. RSB-5504 #? Tamboura & Sitar 1 timpani 2, march snare, crash boom, strike, orch perc. RSB-506 #? Orch. Perc. (timpani, castenets, triangle, gong) vibes, glock, marimba, xylo, wind bell, kalimba Oriental Cymbal & Gong RSB-5504 #? Techno Set "Naruhudo" Wind Tree/Mark Tree RSB-5504 #? Gate City (gated reverb on drums) F3 Percussion SBG-3 #23 Berimbau SSS-1 #10 vocal sounds (4)Emax oohs SNS-1 #09 Voices A SSS-550 #05 Voices B SSS-550 #05 Oooze and Oz RSB-503 #01 brass (9) Trumpet & Horn Trumpet & Trombone RSB-550? #? Hits & Hornz RSB-5506 #7 Brass vol. 3 RSB-5506 #8 Trumpets! RSB-550? #? Cho Trumpet RSB-5506 #3 Brass Blasts SNS-5 #41 Showtime Brass SNS-2 #15 Solo Horns SAS-1 #05 woodwinds (5) Pan Pipe/Shakuhachi RSB-506 #? Winds (flute, steamer, recorder, ocarina) Tenor, Alto & Soprano Sax Alto Sax (3 diskettes) E2 Woodwinds SNS-1 #04 piano 11 diskettes other keys (12) Harpsichord/Pipe Organ Synth #2 (MIDI bells, fantasia, etc.) Mini Moog (2 disks) RSB-550? #? Kingdom Pad FM Filtered RSB-5502 #? M1 Ambience SAS-2 #14 M1 series #3 SSS-8 #72 M1 series #4 SSS-8 #73 F3 String Stacks SBG-3 #22 Fairlight Mood SNS-2 #18 F2 Soundtrax SBG-1 #01 Chunki MIDI SSS-7 #61 guitar/bass (12)Acoustic, nylon, steel RSB-501 #? Spanish & classical RSB-550? #? CD Basses RSB-5506 #5 Bass/Piano combi. Real Bass Slapper Wierd acoustic guitar combos. Pluck guitar RSB-5506 #1 Funk Guitar RSB-506 #? Electric guitar (Strat, 5ths, mute, lead) RSB-502 #? Guitar & Stick Martin Steel String SNS-6 #51 Rock Guitar multi-timbre (6)synth brass, synth string, vocoder, hollow, lead, synstring, JX-10 Strings, Big Time "Naruhudo" vocal, EP, bad sax brass, trumpet, slap bass, picked bass, vibes, marimba Harp, harp FX Ethnic Soundtrack, Ethnic Percussion -- -------------=============<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>=============------------- Q-source Stan Sawyer sgs@netcom.com or anonymously as anon-3010@twwells.com "People who bore one another should meet seldom; people who interest one another, often." C. S. Lewis -------------=============<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>=============------------- From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 5 14:00:51 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88186-2>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:00:37 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <78054-3>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 12:45:03 -0400 Received: from Zool.AirTouch.COM ([151.144.254.21]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <67>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 12:21:15 -0400 Received: from atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com (ccmail.airtouch.com) by Zool.AirTouch.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1/AirTouch-Zool:MLC:940403-02) id AA20055; Wed, 5 Oct 94 09:17:34 PDT Received: from cc:Mail by atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com id AA781374341 Wed, 05 Oct 94 09:25:41 PST Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:25:41 -0400 From: charlie.malone@atlas.ccmail.AirTouch.COM (charlie malone) Encoding: 171 Text Message-Id: <9409057813.AA781374341@atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: W-30 Samples Status: R If anyone is interested in how to read W-30 disks in your S-330 via hacker mode, drop me a line at..... Charlie.Malone@atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 5 14:00:51 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88184-1>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:00:34 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <78108-3>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:52:56 -0400 Received: from mail.infinet.com ([198.30.154.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 13:38:06 -0400 Received: from david by mail.infinet.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qsaHR-000DTlC; Wed, 5 Oct 94 13:37 EDT Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.6v2); Wed, 5 Oct 94 13:36:32 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Re: W-30 Samples Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:36:32 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-ID: <0105009A.bgn30q@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2 Status: R In Regards to your letter <9409057813.AA781374341@atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com>: > > If anyone is interested in how to read W-30 disks in your S-330 via > hacker mode, drop me a line at..... > > Charlie.Malone@atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com This questions comes up from time to time. Maybe writing an FAQ on it would be helpful to others. David david@roth-music.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 5 14:31:15 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:31:08 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:14:12 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88159-2>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:13:57 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: W-30 Samples Message-Id: <94Oct5.141357edt.88159-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 14:13:56 -0400 Status: R | From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) | To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca | Subject: Re: W-30 Samples | | | In Regards to your letter <9409057813.AA781374341@atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com>: | > If anyone is interested in how to read W-30 disks in your S-330 via | > hacker mode, drop me a line at..... | > | > Charlie.Malone@atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com | | This questions comes up from time to time. Maybe writing an FAQ on | it would be helpful to others. | | David | david@roth-music.com I've been putting "useful" information in the pub/sgroup/information directory on lotus - that's where I've put copies of messages about hacker mode and so on. John jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 5 18:56:31 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 18:56:18 -0400 Received: from Zool.AirTouch.COM ([151.144.254.21]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 18:46:07 -0400 Received: from atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com (ccmail.airtouch.com) by Zool.AirTouch.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1/AirTouch-Zool:MLC:940403-02) id AA22129; Wed, 5 Oct 94 15:42:24 PDT Received: from cc:Mail by atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com id AA781397442 Wed, 05 Oct 94 15:50:42 PST Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 19:50:42 -0400 From: charlie.malone@atlas.ccmail.AirTouch.COM (charlie malone) Encoding: 330 Text Message-Id: <9409057813.AA781397442@atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Upgrade Status: R Does anyone know if there are any third party upgrades for Roland samplers (any model)? I know there used to be a place in Los Angeles, but they're no longer there. I can't FTP so please mail me personally. Charlie.Malone@Atlas.ccmail.airtouch.com thanks, Charlie. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 5 22:28:51 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 22:28:41 -0400 Received: from bos1e.delphi.com ([192.80.63.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 22:15:28 -0400 Received: from delphi.com by delphi.com (PMDF V4.3-9 #7804) id <01HHXKQQ8YJK8X98PF@delphi.com>; Wed, 05 Oct 1994 21:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 21:51:16 -0400 From: FPOTTER@delphi.com Subject: S-330 For Sale To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01HHXKQQ986Q8X98PF@delphi.com> X-VMS-To: INTERNET"sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: R Hello, sgroup. The S-330 is in excellent shape. I have the mouse and manuals. Monitor is excluded. I'd be happy if I could get $525.00, buyer pays UPS COD shipping. First serious offer will get the unit. Please e-mail me directly. Thanks, Fred Potter fpotter@delphi.com From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 5 23:30:09 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 23:30:06 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <78054-3>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 23:29:55 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <184>; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 23:17:07 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA21369 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 20:16:47 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA21236 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 1994 20:17:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Oct 1994 23:17:13 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199410060317.UAA21236@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Q-up Arts Status: R In case any of you are interested, I went out to visit Q-up arts last night. They make lots of CD-ROM sample libraries and audio CD sample libs too. They happen to be one of the only few remaining places that still actually have a few S-550 disks hanging around. I bought the Universe of Sounds CD, which was authored by the owner of Q-up arts when he used to work for Optical Media. He also sells the Roland disk and the Club-50 disk. He could not locate the Outrigger Productions CD(which I really want). That's about all there is for the S-550 in terms of CD-ROMS. He also spent some time with me showing off his Universe of Sounds CD(he works out of his home). Nice stuff. He also spent some time helping try several CD-ROM drives that he had with my 550 to see what would work. I would highly reccomend him if you are thinking about getting any libraries for your 550. I also found out that if I get Alchemy(Passport Designs) I can buy CD-ROMS for the sample cell and those CD-ROMS will load directly into Alchemy and then I can convert them to S-550 samples(including loop points) and whala, you have some of the newer sample libs on the S-550 too! I am going to look into that. Looks like a pretty good option. Anyway, Qup arts is at qup@picosof.com Good stuff!!!! -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 7 15:35:48 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Fri, 7 Oct 1994 15:35:35 -0400 Received: from uni.tho.shl.com ([159.249.98.23]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <135>; Fri, 7 Oct 1994 15:16:23 -0400 Received: from muse.tho.shl.com (thowsmus.tho.shl.com) by uni.tho.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19776; Fri, 7 Oct 94 12:00:26 PDT Received: by muse.tho.shl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1) id AA07406; Fri, 7 Oct 1994 12:15:27 +0800 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 1994 00:15:27 -0400 From: gwhiz@tho.shl.com (Michael G. Williams) Message-Id: <9410071915.AA07406@muse.tho.shl.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: New guy X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 365 Status: R Hi all, I read about your group in EM 10/94. I am looking for SP700/S760 samples, plus Mac or Sun program(s) that will create a floppy these samplers will read, and will put samples onto that disk so I can load them up onto the hard disk. Any ideas? Thanks, Michael Williams GWHIZ Arts & Sciences 4725 Del Rio Simi Valley, CA 93063 (805) 371-9099 x2212 (day job) From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat Oct 8 04:52:05 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Sat, 8 Oct 1994 04:51:55 -0400 Received: from amalfi.trl.OZ.AU ([137.147.99.99]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Sat, 8 Oct 1994 04:41:14 -0400 Received: from otcgpo.isg.otc.com.au ([134.159.16.100]) by amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA01079; Sat, 8 Oct 1994 18:32:51 +1000 Received: by otcgpo.isg.otc.com.au (4.1/OTC_GPO.2.2) id AA08216; Sat, 8 Oct 94 08:40:34 GMT Received: from nmspad1.pad.otc.com.au(134.159.8.1) by otcgpo via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma008163; Sat Oct 8 08:39:37 1994 Received: from ra.pad.otc.com.au by nmspad1.pad.otc.com.au (4.1/OTC_Gateway2.0) id AA14993; Sat, 8 Oct 94 08:39:00 GMT Received: from nmstms1.pad.otc.com.au by ra.pad.otc.com.au (4.1/OTC_Peer_1.7) id AA19451; Sat, 8 Oct 94 08:38:59 GMT Received: by nmstms1.pad.otc.com.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13672; Sat, 8 Oct 94 08:38:25 GMT Message-Id: <9410080838.AA13672@nmstms1.pad.otc.com.au> Subject: Re: New guy To: gwhiz@tho.shl.com (Michael G. Williams) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 14:38:24 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers) In-Reply-To: <9410071915.AA07406@muse.tho.shl.com>; from "Michael G. Williams" at Oct 7, 94 12:15 am From: nic@nms.otc.com.au (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j} I read about your group in EM 10/94. I am looking for SP700/S760 samples, => plus Mac or Sun program(s) that will create a floppy these samplers will read, => and will put samples onto that disk so I can load them up onto the => hard disk. Any ideas? We're famous? Will have to get EM and take a look... To answer your question, yes there are such beasts. For the Mac, there is a utility called 'smac' which can be found on lotus.uwaterloo.ca. There are also PC equivalents. For Sun, you can just use dd, as the Roland disks are in MSDOS format and the Sun can just read them. You can use this method to transfer samples across the net or as you say just store them on hard disk. Note that these programs just read/write complete disks. If you want to manipulate samples on the Mac (or Sun, 8 bit 8K sample rate, yuk!), then there are programs that can do this too. However the process can be complex and time consuming. There are a few of us S7XX users in sgroup, but I don't think there are any S7XX samples on lotus (as yet). Usually, people post what sort of samples they are after and others oblige... Regards, Nic. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 10 17:26:55 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:26:45 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:12:51 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA28531 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 14:12:26 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA08912 for ; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 14:12:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:12:54 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199410102112.OAA08912@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: 2 SCSI interfaces available for S-550 Status: R Hey Folks, That is what I said.....2 SCSI interfaces have been found for the S-550. They are at "Banana's at Large" in San Rafeal, CA (415) 457-7600 Let me know who gets em'. If two people don't snag em up, then I may go buy them and hold on to them for a bit. Let me know. -steve __ __ __ ( _/_ _ ( _ / __)/(- \/(- __)( /)()((/ _____ __ __ /\ _ `\ /\ \ /\ \__ \ \ \L\ \ __ ___\ \ \/'\ ____\ \ ,_\ __ __ __ \ \ _ <' /'__`\ /'___\ \ , < /',__\\ \ \/ /'__`\ /'_ `\ /'__`\ \ \ \L\ \/\ \L\.\_/\ \__/\ \ \\`\ /\__, `\\ \ \_/\ \L\.\_/\ \L\ \/\ __/ \ \____/\ \__/.\_\ \____\\ \_\ \_\/\____/ \ \__\ \__/.\_\ \____ \ \____\ \/___/ \/__/\/_/\/____/ \/_/\/_/\/___/ \/__/\/__/\/_/\/___L\ \/____/ /\____/ \_/__/ _____ __ __ /\ _ `\ /\ \ /\ \__ __ \ \ \L\ \_ __ ___ \_\ \ __ __ ___\ \ ,_\/\_\ ___ ___ \ \ ,__/\`'__\/ __`\ /'_` \/\ \/\ \ /'___\ \ \/\/\ \ / __`\ /' _ `\ \ \ \/\ \ \//\ \L\ \/\ \L\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \__/\ \ \_\ \ \/\ \L\ \/\ \/\ \ \ \_\ \ \_\\ \____/\ \___,_\ \____/\ \____\\ \__\\ \_\ \____/\ \_\ \_\ \/_/ \/_/ \/___/ \/__,_ /\/___/ \/____/ \/__/ \/_/\/___/ \/_/\/_/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 10 17:47:44 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:47:33 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com ([198.60.22.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:38:04 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com (slc20.xmission.com [198.60.22.120]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA06780; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:36:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199410102136.PAA06780@xmission.xmission.com> Sender: From: "The Alchemist" To: Steve Schow , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 18:37:10 -0400 Subject: Re: 2 SCSI interfaces available for S-550 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Status: R > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:12:54 -0400 > From: Steve Schow > To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > Subject: 2 SCSI interfaces available for S-550 > Hey Folks, > > That is what I said.....2 SCSI interfaces have been found for the S-550. > They are at > > "Banana's at Large" in San Rafeal, CA (415) 457-7600 > > Let me know who gets em'. If two people don't snag em up, then I may go > buy them and hold on to them for a bit. Let me know. Are these SCSI kits compatible with the W-30? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez email: alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College ftp: ftp.xmission.com:/pub/users/alchemy/ CompuSci Technology Major (AS) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 10 18:46:07 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 18:45:55 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <137>; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 18:36:25 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA05461; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:35:54 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA10978; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 15:36:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 18:36:22 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199410102236.PAA10978@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sjs@corp.portal.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, alchemy@xmission.com Subject: Re: 2 SCSI interfaces available for S-550 Status: R Nope, You can still find the W-30 SCSI kits around though. Check out the "Sound Source" I can't remember phone no. -steve __ __ __ ( _/_ _ ( _ / __)/(- \/(- __)( /)()((/ _____ __ /\ _ `\ /\ \ \ \ \/\ \ __ __ \_\ \ __ ___ ___ __ ___ \ \ \ \ \/\ \/\ \ /'_` \ /'__`\/' __` __`\ /'__`\ /' _ `\ \ \ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \L\ \/\ __//\ \/\ \/\ \/\ \L\.\_/\ \/\ \ \ \____/\ \____/\ \___,_\ \____\ \_\ \_\ \_\ \__/.\_\ \_\ \_\ \/___/ \/___/ \/__,_ /\/____/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/__/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From sgroup-owner@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Oct 10 14:50:16 1994 Sender: From: "The Alchemist" To: Steve Schow , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: 2 SCSI interfaces available for S-550 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Content-Length: 947 X-Lines: 22 > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 17:12:54 -0400 > From: Steve Schow > To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > Subject: 2 SCSI interfaces available for S-550 > Hey Folks, > > That is what I said.....2 SCSI interfaces have been found for the S-550. > They are at > > "Banana's at Large" in San Rafeal, CA (415) 457-7600 > > Let me know who gets em'. If two people don't snag em up, then I may go > buy them and hold on to them for a bit. Let me know. Are these SCSI kits compatible with the W-30? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez email: alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College ftp: ftp.xmission.com:/pub/users/alchemy/ CompuSci Technology Major (AS) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 10 20:25:41 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 20:25:31 -0400 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu ([128.101.118.21]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <138>; Mon, 10 Oct 1994 20:17:55 -0400 Received: from dialup-1-83.gw.umn.edu by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Mon, 10 Oct 94 18:11:53 -0500 From: "Mark D. Henderson" Reply-To: "Mark D. Henderson" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: CD-ROM's Message-Id: <2e99ca3b3b09002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 1994 19:57:24 -0400 Status: R A friend of mine asked me about compatible CD-ROM players for use with the S-550. He found an Optical Media CD for the S-550 at a garage sale for $30 (I should be so lucky). He knows someone that will sell him a NEC CD-ROM (older single speed model) for $50 and he wants to know if it will work with the CD-5 system software.I know I saw a thread about different CD machines here a while back. Anybody have any information or advice? You can respond to the sgroup or e-mail me directly. Thanks. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 11 14:54:13 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-2>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 14:54:10 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 14:33:59 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88171-1>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 14:33:51 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Roland sample library ... Message-Id: <94Oct11.143351edt.88171-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 14:33:50 -0400 Status: R Jim Norman of Roland US has started sending me diskettes with the Roland sample library, to make available to you. The first batch is now available for anonymous ftp on lotus.uwaterloo.ca in pub/sgroup/samples/Roland. The files are zip'd files, so please make sure you transfer in "binary" mode. unzip the files, and you should have a disk image that you can copy to a diskette and load into your sampler. Have fun, and please try not to all kill lotus by ftp'ing everything all at once, and if you try to avoid 0800 to 1800 EDT (that's GMT plus 4) i.e. daytime in eastern North America, that would be wonderful. John jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 11 16:29:15 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:29:02 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:10:40 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA11819; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 13:10:15 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA00567; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 13:10:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:10:42 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199410112010.NAA00567@demon.corp.portal.com> To: alchemy@xmission.com Subject: W-30 SCSI interfaces Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R Here is the number for the place which has W-30 SCSI interfaces in stock 800-753-6558 "Sound Source" or something like that. later __ __ __ ( _/_ _ ( _ / __)/(- \/(- __)( /)()((/ _____ __ /\ _ `\ /\ \ \ \ \/\ \ __ __ \_\ \ __ ___ ___ __ ___ \ \ \ \ \/\ \/\ \ /'_` \ /'__`\/' __` __`\ /'__`\ /' _ `\ \ \ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \L\ \/\ __//\ \/\ \/\ \/\ \L\.\_/\ \/\ \ \ \____/\ \____/\ \___,_\ \____\ \_\ \_\ \_\ \__/.\_\ \_\ \_\ \/___/ \/___/ \/__,_ /\/____/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/__/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 11 17:10:03 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-3>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 17:09:55 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <135>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:51:07 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA15629; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 13:50:55 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA00869; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 13:51:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:51:23 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199410112051.NAA00869@demon.corp.portal.com> To: caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca Subject: Re: Q-up arts Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R Well, I don't think you could do the direct to roland floppy thing. You have to use MIDI to dump the samples into the S-550. Someone should really write a program(maybe it will be me) that all it does is read AIFF files and convert them to S-550 samples(retaining loops and what not). Optionally providing a way to setup patches and create custom disk setups and then being able to write to a S-550 floppy or through MIDI. Basically it would be an editor/lib for the S-550 that also wrote out to MIDI and could read AIFF files from the Mac HD, CD-ROM, etc.. Anyway, Passport Designs makes Alchemy. I don't have it yet. I don't know how much. I have heard that the latest versions do NOT support the S-550, so you may need to call passport and try to get an older version from them. As far as 16->12 bit conversion....it probably will be a little messy....thats just a guess. Remember that Roland uses the differential interpolation to hide a lot of that stuff. doesn't hurt to try. __ __ __ ( _/_ _ ( _ / __)/(- \/(- __)( /)()((/ _____ __ /\ _ `\ /\ \ \ \ \/\ \ __ __ \_\ \ __ ___ ___ __ ___ \ \ \ \ \/\ \/\ \ /'_` \ /'__`\/' __` __`\ /'__`\ /' _ `\ \ \ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \L\ \/\ __//\ \/\ \/\ \/\ \L\.\_/\ \/\ \ \ \____/\ \____/\ \___,_\ \____\ \_\ \_\ \_\ \__/.\_\ \_\ \_\ \/___/ \/___/ \/__,_ /\/____/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/__/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca Tue Oct 11 12:58:32 1994 From: "Caron, Antoine" To: sjs@corp.portal.com Subject: Q-up arts Encoding: 14 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Length: 432 X-Lines: 14 Hi Steve, nice stuff! I need to know more: 1. When you convert a Sample Cell sample to S-550, using Alchemy can you write it to a Roland-type floppy disk (maybe with Smac?) 2. Is Alchemy still available? If so, where, at what price? 3. What can we expect from 16 to 12 bit conversion, is it gonna sound crappy? (that's a hard one!) Thanks, you're doing a great job Antoine Caron, Montreal caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 11 20:11:33 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 20:11:21 -0400 Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA ([132.204.2.103]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <138>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 19:54:21 -0400 Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA25350 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Tue, 11 Oct 1994 19:52:56 -0400 Received: from mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA18213; Tue, 11 Oct 94 19:52:55 -0400 Received: by mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA16553; Tue, 11 Oct 94 19:52:55 -0400 From: stjacque@ERE.UMontreal.CA (St-Jacques Marc) Message-Id: <9410112352.AA16553@mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: MIDI SysEx dump (was Q-up arts) To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca (sgroup ) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 19:52:54 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1477 Status: R Forwarded message: > From sgroup-owner@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Oct 11 17:12:49 1994 > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 16:51:23 -0400 > From: Steve Schow > Message-Id: <199410112051.NAA00869@demon.corp.portal.com> > To: caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca > Subject: Re: Q-up arts > Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca > > Well, > > I don't think you could do the direct to roland floppy thing. You have to > use MIDI to dump the samples into the S-550. Someone should really write > a program(maybe it will be me) that all it does is read AIFF files and > convert them to S-550 samples(retaining loops and what not). If you on PC, use SOX to convert the AIFF to SampleVision format. SV works great with S-50/550. A recent posting in r.m.m.s. gave an ftp adress with full of 16 bits TR-808 samples. It was hot. SV handled it like a charm. QUERY: WHAT ARE THE MIDI SAMPLE DUMP CODES FOR THE S-50? I don't know if the 550 has it, but my S-50's manual is screemingly silent about it. ************************************* Marc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc St-Jacques "Allons, bon! Qu'est-ce qu'il me veut encore!!! C'est pas dans ces conditions que j'arriverai a passer ma these." stjacque@ere.Umontreal.ca - Kador, par Binet. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 11 21:29:46 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:29:38 -0400 Received: from havoc.gtf.gatech.edu ([130.207.150.33]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <136>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:21:16 -0400 Received: by havoc.gtf.gatech.edu (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #5) Message-Id: <94Oct11.212116edt.136@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> From: To: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:21:05 -0400 Status: R id m0qusNQ-000JjfC; Tue, 11 Oct 94 21:21 EDT Message-Id: From: data@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu (Michael Ashton) Subject: Re: Q-up arts To: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <199410112051.NAA00869@demon.corp.portal.com> from "Steve Schow" at Oct 11, 94 04:51:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1706 Steve Schow writes: > > Well, > > I don't think you could do the direct to roland floppy thing. You have to > use MIDI to dump the samples into the S-550. Someone should really write > a program(maybe it will be me) that all it does is read AIFF files and > convert them to S-550 samples(retaining loops and what not). Optionally > providing a way to setup patches and create custom disk setups and then > being able to write to a S-550 floppy or through MIDI. Basically it would > be an editor/lib for the S-550 that also wrote out to MIDI and could read > AIFF files from the Mac HD, CD-ROM, etc.. ... Well, actually, I think there is just such a program on the FTP site. It's mentioned by Antoine Caron in his message: > 1. When you convert a Sample Cell sample to S-550, using Alchemy > can you write it to a Roland-type floppy disk (maybe with Smac?) Yes, I believe Smac will do the job. Actually, I think that's all it does (it converts sound files to Roland S-550 disks, I mean). I don't remember rightly whether it supports AIFF or not, but I'm sure you could use another program to convert your AIFF files into something that Smac understands, if it won't read AIFFs. > 2. Is Alchemy still available? If so, where, at what price? I think so. I don't know where, but it's worth a look anyway. _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael Ashton * Schmucks Unlimited data@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu "We started with the Emulator I's - the II's and the Emulator III are still in there. The only way you could get those things working half the time was by whacking them with an iron bar." -Stephen Morris, New Order From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 11 21:48:00 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-2>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:47:54 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77121-3>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:47:47 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <137>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:40:15 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA08881; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 18:39:53 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA03715; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 18:40:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:40:20 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199410120140.SAA03715@demon.corp.portal.com> To: data@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu Subject: AIFF->S50 samples Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R ----- Begin Included Message ----- > Well, > > I don't think you could do the direct to roland floppy thing. You have to > use MIDI to dump the samples into the S-550. Someone should really write > a program(maybe it will be me) that all it does is read AIFF files and > convert them to S-550 samples(retaining loops and what not). Optionally > providing a way to setup patches and create custom disk setups and then > being able to write to a S-550 floppy or through MIDI. Basically it would > be an editor/lib for the S-550 that also wrote out to MIDI and could read > AIFF files from the Mac HD, CD-ROM, etc.. ... Well, actually, I think there is just such a program on the FTP site. It's mentioned by Antoine Caron in his message: Yes, I believe Smac will do the job. Actually, I think that's all it does (it converts sound files to Roland S-550 disks, I mean). I don't remember rightly whether it supports AIFF or not, but I'm sure you could use another program to convert your AIFF files into something that Smac understands, if it won't read AIFFs. ----- End Included Message ----- well, actually , someone correct me if I'm wrong, but i don't think smac will convert LOOP POINTS. It may convert the raw wave data, as do several utilities out there, but I don't think it handles loop information. I could be wrong. anyone? __ __ __ ( _/_ _ ( _ / __)/(- \/(- __)( /)()((/ _____ __ /\ _ `\ /\ \ \ \ \/\ \ __ __ \_\ \ __ ___ ___ __ ___ \ \ \ \ \/\ \/\ \ /'_` \ /'__`\/' __` __`\ /'__`\ /' _ `\ \ \ \_\ \ \ \_\ \/\ \L\ \/\ __//\ \/\ \/\ \/\ \L\.\_/\ \/\ \ \ \____/\ \____/\ \___,_\ \____\ \_\ \_\ \_\ \__/.\_\ \_\ \_\ \/___/ \/___/ \/__,_ /\/____/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/__/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 11 22:00:23 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-2>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:00:13 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77157-2>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:00:07 -0400 Received: from havoc.gtf.gatech.edu ([130.207.150.33]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:50:35 -0400 Received: by havoc.gtf.gatech.edu (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #5) Message-Id: <94Oct11.215035edt.159@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> From: To: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:50:32 -0400 Status: R id m0qusps-000JjgC; Tue, 11 Oct 94 21:50 EDT Message-Id: From: data@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu (Michael Ashton) Subject: Re: AIFF->S50 samples To: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 21:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <199410120140.SAA03715@demon.corp.portal.com> from "Steve Schow" at Oct 11, 94 06:40:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 808 > well, actually , someone correct me if I'm wrong, but i don't think smac will > convert LOOP POINTS. It may convert the raw wave data, as do several utilities > out there, but I don't think it handles loop information. I could be wrong. > > anyone? > That's true, I'd forgotten about that. I don't know if it handles loop points, although I think it might... well, I haven't used it in too long, I don't remember. _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael Ashton * Schmucks Unlimited data@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu "We started with the Emulator I's - the II's and the Emulator III are still in there. The only way you could get those things working half the time was by whacking them with an iron bar." -Stephen Morris, New Order From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 12 00:43:50 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 00:43:46 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <184>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 00:37:16 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id AAA28974; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 00:37:04 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199410120437.AAA28974@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Anyone have tone-2-SAM SMAC util? To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 00:37:04 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 704 Status: R Here is what the docs say we should be getting: smac:SAM_2_Roland makes Roland sampler disks from images. smac:Roland_2_SAM makes images of Roland sampler disks smac:SAM_2_tones stores individal samples as AIFF, SFIL, Snd2, TONE, sfil, I smac:SAM_2_cat let you view content of disk, makes database input smac:tones_2_SAM puts samples on a Roland disk. All that is in smac.hqx, besides the docs, etc., are the first 4. I really would like to get the tones_2_SAM so I could put individual files I make in something like SoundEdit Pro onto a Roland floppy. If anyone has this, please let me know. I'd love to get a copy of it, for obvious reasons. ;) Thanks, JT From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 12 04:34:27 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 04:34:16 -0400 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu ([128.101.118.21]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <185>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 04:25:00 -0400 Received: from dialup-1-28.gw.umn.edu by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Tue, 11 Oct 94 23:53:30 -0500 From: "Mark D. Henderson" Reply-To: "Mark D. Henderson" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: sample dumps Message-Id: <2e9b6bcb317d002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 00:53:33 -0400 Status: R > > Hi Steve, nice stuff! I need to know more: > > 1. When you convert a Sample Cell sample to S-550, using Alchemy > can you write it to a Roland-type floppy disk (maybe with Smac?) > > 2. Is Alchemy still available? If so, where, at what price? > > 3. What can we expect from 16 to 12 bit conversion, is it gonna > sound crappy? (that's a hard one!) > > Thanks, you're doing a great job > > Antoine Caron, Montreal > caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca > > > ----- End Included Message ----- > > I use Sound Designer II to convert SampleCell samples for the S-550. You need to use version 2.5 or before, as Digidesign decided to drop support for external samplers after that revision. I have changed the sample rate and sent it to the S-550 and have gotten some excellent results. You have to redo the loops as they get lost in the sample rate change. Good luck!! From tho.shl.com!gwhiz Wed Oct 12 13:14:34 1994 Received: from uni.tho.shl.com ([159.249.98.23]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 13:14:27 -0400 Received: from muse.tho.shl.com (thowsmus.tho.shl.com) by uni.tho.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23878; Wed, 12 Oct 94 09:57:40 PDT Received: by muse.tho.shl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1) id AA13187; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:12:59 +0800 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:12:59 -0400 From: gwhiz@tho.shl.com (Michael G. Williams) Message-Id: <9410121712.AA13187@muse.tho.shl.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, jmsellen@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Roland sample library ... X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 132 Status: R Oops, my humble apologies. Please put it down to being the new guy. There *are* 760/700 samples on lotus.uwaterloo.ca. Sigh. Mike From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 12 13:18:45 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-2>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 13:18:35 -0400 Received: from uni.tho.shl.com ([159.249.98.23]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 13:10:53 -0400 Received: from muse.tho.shl.com (thowsmus.tho.shl.com) by uni.tho.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23865; Wed, 12 Oct 94 09:53:42 PDT Received: by muse.tho.shl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1) id AA13170; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 10:09:12 +0800 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 1994 22:09:12 -0400 From: gwhiz@tho.shl.com (Michael G. Williams) Message-Id: <9410121709.AA13170@muse.tho.shl.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 782 Status: R Thanks for the pointers on the question of S760 SP700 sampler support. To summarize (so far): - smac (a program available from FTP on lotus.uwaterloo.ca) can apparently create both S760 and S550 floppy disks readable by the samplers, and put samples of the proper organization on those floppies, which as standard MS-DOS format. - On Sun workstations (my current instrument for FTP gigs) one can mount the disks using the pcfs file system type an operate on them. There are no current sample libraries designed for the 760/700 on line, but if I upload some, someone else will too ;^) I'll see wat I can do. Cheers, Mike (PS the guy who put the 550 samples on just recently, Jim Norman, would he be willing to allow at least the 760 "demo sampler" files too?) From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 12 16:09:25 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-2>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 16:09:19 -0400 Received: from rsoft.rsoft.bc.ca ([134.87.165.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <135>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 16:02:04 -0400 Received: from [198.73.183.82] by rsoft.rsoft.bc.ca with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0qv9o7-0003hIC; Wed, 12 Oct 94 12:57 PDT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 14:06:44 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: bique@mindlink.bc.ca (Eric Rosenzveig) Subject: Octapad II ed/lib for Mac Status: R Hello. Understanding that I'm probably in the wrong place to ask this, maybe someone can direct me to the proper place. I'm looking for a Mac editor/librarian for the Roland Octapad II Pad-80. I've already tried rec.music.makers.synth without success. Any syggestions? Bique From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 12 19:13:06 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88175-3>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 19:13:03 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <136>; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 19:05:41 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA04421; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 16:05:18 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA22743; Wed, 12 Oct 1994 16:05:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 1994 19:05:45 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199410122305.QAA22743@demon.corp.portal.com> To: caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca Subject: Re: Dumping samples by MIDI Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R S-550 does NOT adhere to the sample dump standard. Most of the OLDER software does include special drivers to send Rolands MIDI sample dump across the line. I don't have the faintest idea about S-550 -steve ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca Wed Oct 12 14:52:31 1994 From: "Caron, Antoine" To: sjs@corp.portal.com Subject: Dumping samples by MIDI Encoding: 9 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Content-Length: 375 X-Lines: 9 Concerning sample dump from Alchemy to S-550, I was wondering: 1. I think the S-series samplers don't adhere to the Sample Dump Standard. Also they cannot initiate a request for a sysex dump? Am I correct? 2. I suppose Alchemy has a way around those limitations 3. Would it also work with my S-330? Bye now Antoine Caron caron@biotech.lan.nrc,ca ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat Oct 15 11:49:20 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88181-3>; Sat, 15 Oct 1994 11:49:07 -0400 Received: from unb.ca ([131.202.3.20]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Sat, 15 Oct 1994 11:35:21 -0400 Received: from jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca by unb.ca (8.6.9/941012-15:50) id MAA18845; Sat, 15 Oct 1994 12:35:18 -0300 Received: by jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1-940126-11:10) id AA08792; Sat, 15 Oct 94 12:35:15 ADT Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 11:35:14 -0400 From: scott dhomas trenn / Scott Wilkie Subject: Bad files. To: SGroup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO The following files currently in the Roland directory are bad: 5502_10.zip - this file is incomplete. only 695808 bytes. 5504_9.zip - this file is really 5504_10.zip Without actually looking, all other files from 5501_1.zip to 5506_10.zip seem to be okay. dhomas. PS: Could someone please tell me the LISTSERV address for this group. Not the POSTing address. Or the address of the current moderator. **************************************************************************** ** ** * scott dhomas trenn : Fredericton, NB - CANADA * * scott wilkie Internet: dhomas@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca * ** ** **************************************************************************** From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat Oct 15 13:46:14 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88181-3>; Sat, 15 Oct 1994 13:46:11 -0400 Received: from mail.infinet.com ([198.30.154.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <135>; Sat, 15 Oct 1994 13:33:16 -0400 Received: from david by mail.infinet.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qwCya-000DLqC; Sat, 15 Oct 94 13:33 EDT Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.6v2); Sat, 15 Oct 94 13:32:39 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Brass Quintet for S-330 samples ? Date: Sat, 15 Oct 1994 14:32:39 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-ID: <0105009A.cb2jnc@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2 Status: RO I am aware of the Roland library sample disk called Brass #1, but I need one for a S-330 that also contains a tuba sample. The French Horn on Brass #1 is titled "French Hornz" and as it impiles sounds like more than one horn playing. Anyone have samples that will all fit (or made to fit) into the memory of a S-330 that contains single trumpet, trombone, french horn and tuba samples? Has anyone sampled a proteus for this purpose? A uuencoded SAMDISK or BINHEX Dart(tm) file would be great! Thanks in advance, David david@roth-music.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 16 13:02:41 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Sun, 16 Oct 1994 13:02:38 -0400 Received: from xs1.xs4all.nl ([193.78.33.42]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <136>; Sun, 16 Oct 1994 12:41:38 -0400 Received: by xs1.xs4all.nl id AA02736 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Sun, 16 Oct 1994 17:41:27 +0100 From: BlackFunk Message-Id: <199410161641.AA02736@xs1.xs4all.nl> Subject: Converting DOS samples to s550 disk? To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers Users group) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 12:41:26 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 327 Status: RO Are there any tools available to put files from a DOS/WIndows machine directly on a s550 readable disk? Thanks Peace -+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+- Freedom is free of the need to be free - George Clinton '70 With love there is no death - Prince '86 From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 17 22:21:45 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Mon, 17 Oct 1994 22:21:31 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <136>; Mon, 17 Oct 1994 22:05:42 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id WAA14709; Mon, 17 Oct 1994 22:05:29 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199410180205.WAA14709@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: moving samples to/from mac from/to S-550 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 22:05:29 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1089 Status: R I have been looking for tone_2_SMAC, a missing utility of the five that were supposed to come in the SMAC archive at the ftp site, and nobody on the list seems to know anything about... so I tried using Alchemy, but it doesn't seem to understand the idea of MIDI even though there are parameters to be set EVERYWHERE in the app that deal with MIDI. In otherwords, whether I am using OMS or the midi manager/apple modem tool combo, and I try to get or send a sound from the S-550, it tells me the S-550 isn't responding, when in fact it isn't even looking for it because my midi interface LEDs don't light up. Also, according to Midi Mangler, which will tell me the status of my ports, MIDI is running on my serial ports as they should, UNTIL I start running (or "switch to") Alchemy, at which time they become "free". Neat. :( So does anybody have any idea how I can move sounds I make, such as .aiff files, to my S-550 from my mac, digitally, as in: NOT running mikes or lines between the two? Desperately seeking the answers to my monthly "can't-do-midi-right" mac problems, JT From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 20 11:42:07 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88181-3>; Thu, 20 Oct 1994 11:42:00 -0400 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Thu, 20 Oct 1994 11:20:06 -0400 Received: from pjl53ig.i-p.attmail.com ([198.152.2.8]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77226-1>; Thu, 20 Oct 1994 11:11:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 10:30:08 -0400 From: everhart@vortex.attmail.com (everhart) Received: from vortex by attmail; Thu Oct 20 15:01 GMT 1994 Phone: (703)713-8445 Subject: W30 RAM Upgrades To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Content-Type: Text Message-ID: Status: R Hi Folks, I wanted to let the W30 users know that I called Roland Tech Support yesterday, inquiring about the availability of a RAM upgrade (from 1MB) for the W30. I was told that Roland doesn't have one, and there are no longer any third-party vendors that have them either - even though a German manufacturer did at one time. I am no longer on the sgroup list, but mail me directly if you have different information than this. -Rob **************************************** * "When in London and playing Cricket * * One may get a Sticky Wicket" * * * * - Dexter Gordon * **************************************** * everhart@vortex.attmail.com * **************************************** From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 21 02:16:57 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-2>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 02:16:45 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com ([198.60.22.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 02:04:16 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com (slc9.xmission.com [198.60.22.109]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA02172 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 00:03:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199410210603.AAA02172@xmission.xmission.com> Sender: From: "The Alchemist" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 03:03:28 -0400 Subject: W-30 SCSI - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Status: R Well folks, here's the scoop: I finally sent a money order out to a third-party distributor (THANKS STEVE SCHOW!!!) for a W-30 SCSI upgrade!!! I'll finally be able to do some live stuff using my W-30! Now, I just need to save up enough cash to nab a SCSI drive! =] Speaking of, this same third-party retailer has a handful (4 I believe) of SCSI drives that are compatible with the W-30... Does anyone know of any other dealers that have drives that are compatible with the W-30 SCSI interface? I'd much rather find a cheaper drive (they are charging about $550 for an *85* meg hard drive + rackmount case... I assume it's because these drives are so rare)... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez email: alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College ftp: ftp.xmission.com:/pub/users/alchemy/ CompuSci Technology Major (AS) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 21 03:38:34 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-3>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 03:38:21 -0400 Received: from metro.ucc.su.OZ.AU ([129.78.64.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <180>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 03:25:42 -0400 Received: from mama.research.canon.oz.au by metro.ucc.su.OZ.AU with MHSnet id AA02132 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Fri, 21 Oct 1994 17:25:23 +1000 Received: from john.research.canon.oz.au by mama.research.canon.oz.au with SMTP id AA10760 (5.65c8/IDA-1.5); Fri, 21 Oct 1994 17:23:09 +1000 Received: by john.research.canon.oz.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11813; Fri, 21 Oct 94 17:23:08 EST Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:23:08 -0400 From: david@research.canon.oz.au (David White) Message-Id: <9410210723.AA11813@john.research.canon.oz.au> To: "The Alchemist" Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: W-30 SCSI - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <199410210603.AAA02172@xmission.xmission.com> References: <199410210603.AAA02172@xmission.xmission.com> Status: R >>>>> "AC" == The Alchemist writes: AC> Well folks, here's the scoop: AC> I finally sent a money order out to a third-party distributor (THANKS STEVE AC> SCHOW!!!) for a W-30 SCSI upgrade!!! I'll finally be able to do some live AC> stuff using my W-30! AC> Now, I just need to save up enough cash to nab a SCSI drive! =] AC> Speaking of, this same third-party retailer has a handful (4 I believe) of SCSI AC> drives that are compatible with the W-30... Does anyone know of any other AC> dealers that have drives that are compatible with the W-30 SCSI interface? I'd AC> much rather find a cheaper drive (they are charging about $550 for an *85* meg AC> hard drive + rackmount case... I assume it's because these drives are so AC> rare)... I have 8 x 20M SCSI drives that are compatable with the W30. They are all used but I've checked them out. I'm asking USD$35 each for them. They are not in a case. Let me know if you're interested. FYI I have a 40M drive internally mounted in my W30 and a 19" rack case with 4 x 40M drives and 1 x 80. It works well. David. David White CAE Systems Administrator | david@research.canon.oz.au Canon Information Systems Research Australia Pty Ltd | Phone +61-2-805-2916 PO Box 313, 1 Thomas Holt Drive, | Fax +61-2-805-2929 NORTH RYDE, NSW, 2113, AUSTRALIA | Mobile 015-225-828 From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 21 04:59:01 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-3>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 04:58:53 -0400 Received: from nuscc.nus.sg ([192.169.33.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <184>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 04:47:04 -0400 Received: from netman.iscs.nus.sg (root@netman.iscs.nus.sg [137.132.87.2]) by nuscc.nus.sg (8.6.9/8.6.4) with SMTP id QAA28210 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 16:46:47 +0800 Received: from sununx.iscs.nus.sg (fongsiul) by netman.iscs.nus.sg with SMTP id AA24911 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Fri, 21 Oct 1994 16:46:02 +0800 Received: (from fongsiul@localhost) by sununx.iscs.nus.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA10216 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 16:46:00 +0800 From: _the_JazZMaN_ Message-Id: <199410210846.QAA10216@sununx.iscs.nus.sg> Subject: w30 upgrade kit To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 04:45:59 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 771 Status: R Hi fellas, I did some scoping for the w30 upgrade kit back here in singapore and *urg* its gonna cost me >420 bucks plus a long waiting time. Are there any of you out there who knows a cheaper source, or is it possible to *make* one of these gismos on our own? I have some rudimentary knowledge of electronics and have made some pcb stuff b4. Any suggestions/advice welcome! TIA! btw, this is to Dave from cannon.au, my mail to you just bounced. I am intersted in your drives. Perhaps you can email me soon. cheers, _______ / DISCS National University of Singapore ) / Internet: fongsiul@iscs.nus.sg )RIAN FONG / a.k.a. the_JazZMaN_ B') -Christian-GUSser-jazz-r&b-bassguitar-synth-tennis-ST&SW-Xmen- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 21 13:15:09 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:15:02 -0400 Received: from uni.tho.shl.com ([159.249.98.23]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <180>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 13:01:29 -0400 Received: from muse.tho.shl.com (thowsmus.tho.shl.com) by uni.tho.shl.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03965; Fri, 21 Oct 94 10:01:06 PDT Received: by muse.tho.shl.com (5.0/SMI-4.1) id AA23065; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 09:59:14 +0800 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 21:59:14 -0400 From: gwhiz@tho.shl.com (Michael G. Williams) Message-Id: <9410211659.AA23065@muse.tho.shl.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca, alchemy@xmission.com Subject: Re: W-30 SCSI - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 527 Status: R Having dealt with quite a few SCSI devices in my time, it would be somewhat surprising if the W30 relied on certain SCSI implementations or patterns of phases changes etc. I don't know what a W30 is, but if this is a problem on it, then it is a bug in its software, or perhaps a rather ancient implementation? The only compatibility issue that one *should* face is the cable pinout format. If need be Redmond Cable in Washington (615) 478-5760 can fabricate just about anything, and are familiar with many synths, etc. Mike From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 21 17:51:21 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 17:51:18 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 17:39:30 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA20136; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 14:38:48 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA24968; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 14:39:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 17:39:16 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199410212139.OAA24968@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca, alchemy@xmission.com, gwhiz@tho.shl.com Subject: Re: W-30 SCSI - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Status: RO Baaaaaaaaannnnnnk.........wrong answer. Leave it to Roland. for some reason, they only included drivers to drive one certain Sony drive mechanism.....the old one. ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From sgroup-owner@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Oct 21 10:20:56 1994 From: gwhiz@tho.shl.com (Michael G. Williams) To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca, alchemy@xmission.com Subject: Re: W-30 SCSI - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 527 X-Lines: 12 Having dealt with quite a few SCSI devices in my time, it would be somewhat surprising if the W30 relied on certain SCSI implementations or patterns of phases changes etc. I don't know what a W30 is, but if this is a problem on it, then it is a bug in its software, or perhaps a rather ancient implementation? The only compatibility issue that one *should* face is the cable pinout format. If need be Redmond Cable in Washington (615) 478-5760 can fabricate just about anything, and are familiar with many synths, etc. Mike ----- End Included Message ----- From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 21 18:39:25 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-1>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:39:15 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77296-4>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:39:11 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com ([198.60.22.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:28:35 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com (slc18.xmission.com [198.60.22.118]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA29059 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 16:27:36 -0600 Message-Id: <199410212227.QAA29059@xmission.xmission.com> Sender: From: "The Alchemist" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 19:27:54 -0400 Subject: Re: W-30 SCSI - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Status: RO > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 17:23:08 EST > From: david@research.canon.oz.au (David White) > To: "The Alchemist" > Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca > Subject: W-30 SCSI - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >>>>> "AC" == The Alchemist writes: > > AC> Well folks, here's the scoop: > AC> I finally sent a money order out to a third-party distributor (THANKS STEVE > AC> SCHOW!!!) for a W-30 SCSI upgrade!!! I'll finally be able to do some live > AC> stuff using my W-30! > > AC> Now, I just need to save up enough cash to nab a SCSI drive! =] > > AC> Speaking of, this same third-party retailer has a handful (4 I believe) of SCSI > AC> drives that are compatible with the W-30... Does anyone know of any other > AC> dealers that have drives that are compatible with the W-30 SCSI interface? I'd > AC> much rather find a cheaper drive (they are charging about $550 for an *85* meg > AC> hard drive + rackmount case... I assume it's because these drives are so > AC> rare)... > > I have 8 x 20M SCSI drives that are compatable with the W30. They are > all used but I've checked them out. I'm asking USD$35 each for > them. They are not in a case. Let me know if you're interested. > > FYI I have a 40M drive internally mounted in my W30 and a 19" rack > case with 4 x 40M drives and 1 x 80. It works well. Actually, I'm looking for an 80-85M W30 compatible SCSI drive with a 19" rack... know where I can find one? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez email: alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College ftp: ftp.xmission.com:/pub/users/alchemy/ CompuSci Technology Major (AS) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 21 18:57:15 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:57:07 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com ([198.60.22.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 18:45:24 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com (slc20.xmission.com [198.60.22.120]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00629 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 16:44:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199410212244.QAA00629@xmission.xmission.com> Sender: From: "The Alchemist" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 19:44:49 -0400 Subject: Re: W-30 SCSI - YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Status: RO If anyone out there in sgroup-land knows where I can get a W30-compatible 80 or 85 meg hard drive (I'm not sure what the max. size is, but I would like to use the max. size) and a 19" rack mount for it for $$$CHEAP$$$ (well, it doesn't have to be cheap; as long as I've got a drive, I'll be happy =]), please please PLEASE email me!!!! Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez email: alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College ftp: ftp.xmission.com:/pub/users/alchemy/ CompuSci Technology Major (AS) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 23 23:41:52 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88181-1>; Sun, 23 Oct 1994 23:41:41 -0400 Received: from BU.EDU ([128.197.27.7]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Sun, 23 Oct 1994 23:27:06 -0400 Received: from [128.197.8.75] by BU.EDU (1.99) Sun, 23 Oct 1994 23:26:38 -0400 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 23:26:38 -0400 Message-Id: <199410240326.XAA03832@BU.EDU> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: dejesus@bu.edu (Stephen DeJesus) X-Sender: dejesus@acs3.bu.edu Subject: S-10 Sample dumping Status: R Hello. I would like to be able to load samples from my S-10 sampler to my mac and vice versa. I have examined the smac software from your ftp site, but I dont think I can use this with the S-10. I also noticed that there was some software for doing the desired transfers to and from a dos machine. Does anyone out there have any software for transferring S-10 samples to and from a Mac? If not, does anyone have any information on initiating a sample dump on an S-10? I know that it is not a standard sample dump - does any one have any specific info that I could use to write a Mac transfer program? If this is covered in any of your archived material, could you please direct me to the specific archive? Thanks Steve DeJesus dejesus@bu.edu From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 24 00:20:13 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88181-3>; Mon, 24 Oct 1994 00:20:00 -0400 Received: from relay2.geis.com ([192.77.188.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <187>; Mon, 24 Oct 1994 00:09:01 -0400 Received: by relay2.geis.com (1.37.109.10G/15.6) id AA010181727; Mon, 24 Oct 1994 04:08:47 GMT From: s.petitt@genie.geis.com Message-Id: <199410240408.AA010181727@relay2.geis.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 23:51:00 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: GEnie address X-Genie-Id: 4173538 X-Genie-From: S.PETITT Status: R Once again I forgot to include my info Please respond to S.PETITT@GEnie.geis.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 24 00:33:54 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88181-3>; Mon, 24 Oct 1994 00:33:49 -0400 Received: from relay2.geis.com ([192.77.188.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <189>; Mon, 24 Oct 1994 00:19:59 -0400 Received: by relay2.geis.com (1.37.109.10G/15.6) id AA014731865; Mon, 24 Oct 1994 04:11:06 GMT From: s.petitt@genie.geis.com Message-Id: <199410240411.AA014731865@relay2.geis.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 23:48:00 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Roland S-series sampler group X-Genie-Id: 9302967 X-Genie-From: S.PETITT Status: R Is there anyone there that has information on a Roland S-series sampler group that is/was @UWaterloo(as of 9/93)? According to the info on GEnie,@lotus.Uwaterloo.ca is where they are.Please help me locate them if at all possible. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 24 08:47:05 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88173-2>; Mon, 24 Oct 1994 08:47:00 -0400 Received: from isgate.is ([130.208.165.63]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <190>; Mon, 24 Oct 1994 08:31:27 -0400 Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.6.8/ISnet/14-10-91); Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:31:01 GMT Received: by rvik.ismennt.is (16.8/ISnet/11-02-92); Mon, 24 Oct 94 12:29:52 GMT From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Message-Id: <9410241229.AA02789@rvik.ismennt.is> Subject: Re: S-10 Sample dumping To: dejesus@bu.edu (Stephen DeJesus) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 08:29:52 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <199410240326.XAA03832@BU.EDU> from "Stephen DeJesus" at Oct 23, 94 11:26:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1067 Status: R > I would like to be able to load samples from my S-10 sampler to my mac and > vice versa. > ... > Does anyone out there have any software for transferring S-10 samples to > and from a Mac? If not, does anyone have any information on initiating a > sample dump on an S-10? I know that it is not a standard sample dump - > does any one have any specific info that I could use to write a Mac > transfer program? Sound Designer II, version 2.5 and older will do the trick. Unfortunately for your budget, it usually comes bundled with a DSP card and will set you back some hundreds of dollars. Alchemy can run without a sound card but at least the older versions did not support the S-10. However, if the S-10 accepts the Sample Dump Standard, you should be able to use it. If not, :-(. For writing your own software, your bible would be the System Exclusive implementation that ought to be taking up the last pages of the manual. Judging Roland from the other manuals I've seen, it could be difficult to encrypt. :-( Rikhardur H. Fridriksson From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 25 21:56:53 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-2>; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 21:56:49 -0400 Received: from nuscc.nus.sg ([192.169.33.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 21:46:46 -0400 Received: from netman.iscs.nus.sg (root@netman.iscs.nus.sg [137.132.87.2]) by nuscc.nus.sg (8.6.9/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA22742 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:46:29 +0800 Received: from sununx.iscs.nus.sg (fongsiul) by netman.iscs.nus.sg with SMTP id AA27524 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:46:15 +0800 Received: (from fongsiul@localhost) by sununx.iscs.nus.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA18064 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:46:13 +0800 From: _the_JazZMaN_ Message-Id: <199410260146.JAA18064@sununx.iscs.nus.sg> Subject: kw30 = w301.10 ?? To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 21:46:12 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 522 Status: R Hi everyone, I am trying to get my w30 scsi-ized and I realize I need the special OS KW30 to get my machine to talk to the scsi drives. Is the os on lotus W30 ver 1.10 the correct one to use? If not does anyone know where I can get it? I dun have access to compuserve. TIA! _______ / DISCS National University of Singapore ) / Internet: fongsiul@iscs.nus.sg )RIAN FONG / a.k.a. the_JazZMaN_ B') -Christian-GUSser-jazz-r&b-bassguitar-synth-tennis-ST&SW-Xmen- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 25 22:47:08 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-1>; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:47:02 -0400 Received: from relay2.geis.com ([192.77.188.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:40:27 -0400 Received: by relay2.geis.com (1.37.109.10G/15.6) id AA082479204; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 02:40:05 GMT From: s.petitt@genie.geis.com Message-Id: <199410260240.AA082479204@relay2.geis.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:12:00 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: voice numbers X-Genie-Id: 1176421 X-Genie-From: S.PETITT Status: R are there any voice numbers that I can call to get basic info on the Sgroup? I live in Los Angeles and am willing to call anywhere(continental U.S.) to get help/started. From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 25 23:06:32 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88175-3>; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 23:06:23 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77151-4>; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 23:06:10 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:58:47 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id WAA19723; Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:58:36 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199410260258.WAA19723@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: voice numbers To: s.petitt@genie.geis.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 22:58:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199410260240.AA082479204@relay2.geis.com> from "s.petitt@genie.geis.com" at Oct 25, 94 10:12:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 830 Status: R > > are there any voice numbers that I can call to get basic info on the Sgroup? > I live in Los Angeles and am willing to call anywhere(continental U.S.) > to get help/started. I sent mail to you privately in response to you asking how to subscribe to the sgroup mailing list. You need to subscribe in order to get any mail from it. To subscribe, send a subscription request to sgroup-request@lotus.uwaterloo.ca saying something like "subscribe sgroup" and that should do the trick. Once you get on, if you aren't already, any questions you want to ask regarding info about the sgroup are best addressed TO the sgroup. I don't know what more to say than that. It works a lot better to address all of us than to depend on a few individual, long distance phone calls. ;) Hope that helps some more, JT From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 26 09:34:01 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:33:52 -0400 Received: from freenet.buffalo.edu ([128.205.200.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:24:19 -0400 Received: (ai419@localhost) by freenet.buffalo.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id JAA09229; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:23:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:23:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199410261323.JAA09229@freenet.buffalo.edu> From: ai419@freenet.buffalo.edu (Robert L Phillips Jr. ) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: downloading SYS505 problem Reply-To: ai419@freenet.buffalo.edu Status: R Hello sgroup people. I have been trying to obtain a copy of an operating system for the s-50 that can convert s-550 files into s-50 files. I went to lotus and under the Roland directory I got a document and they mentioned that this operating system is SYS505 or something. I found this file in the operating system directory, I can't remember whether it was under Roland or not. Every time I download it fine except that pkunzip says there is no zip file. Am I using the write decompression utillity? Has anyone else been succesfull with this file? I even copied the file at school straight from my account there so that no downloading was necessary but it still didn't work. thanks in advance. -rob -- -ai419@freenet.acsu.buffalo.edu- From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 26 11:59:50 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 11:59:45 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77157-2>; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 11:59:33 -0400 Received: from ctech.ac.za ([155.238.4.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 11:50:33 -0400 Received: from norton.ctech.ac.za by ctech.ac.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qzLvl-0001uvC; Mon, 24 Oct 94 11:43 EET Received: from NORTON/PMAILQ by norton.ctech.ac.za (Mercury 1.1); Mon, 24 Oct 94 11:37:21 GMT-2 From: "Edwin Lloyd" Organization: Cape Technikon, South Africa To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 09:37:13 -0400 Subject: Samples Priority: normal X-mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-ID: <5CB1EF73D2@norton.ctech.ac.za> Status: R Hello all Where can I find a program that can convert S-samples to WAV format, to play The samples my SB AWE32? Could the following work? : I get the sample from FTP, rename it to a .RAW extention, and recall it in the SB Wave Studio... Also, when you people sample stuff, do you sample one note and then play it on a keyboard, or can you sample (say a guitar) and sample all the notes of an octave and then map it to the keyboard? The thing is, when you sample just one note of a piano, for example, my software will adjust the tone automatically to play all the note of the keyboard, and not just the relevant note the sound was sampled on. ## What is the FTP site for S-series samples? Hope to hear from you soon... Best wishes Edwin Lloyd From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 26 12:12:13 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 12:12:06 -0400 Received: from netcom.netcom.com ([192.100.81.100]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <184>; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 11:59:32 -0400 Received: by netcom.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA02814; Wed, 26 Oct 1994 08:27:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199410261527.IAA02814@netcom.netcom.com> From: allmon@netcom.com (Jim) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 11:27:50 -0400 Reply-To: allmon@netcom.com X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Digital recording on a PC Status: R Does anybody do any direct to disk recording? I have a MIDI sequencer that I use with my W30 but am looking for a program that will allow me to lay down analog tracks in sync with the MIDI tracks. Something that would work on a PC prefered but could go Macintosh also. Thanks in advance. --Jim From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 27 04:47:11 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Thu, 27 Oct 1994 04:46:56 -0400 Received: from shum.cc.huji.ac.il ([132.64.1.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <187>; Thu, 27 Oct 1994 04:32:19 -0400 Received: by shum.cc.huji.ac.il id AA08370 (5.67bHU/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Thu, 27 Oct 1994 08:10:19 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 02:10:19 -0400 From: giora drachsler Message-Id: <199410270610.AA08370@shum.cc.huji.ac.il> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: downloading SYS505 problem Status: R AI> AI> Hello sgroup people. AI> AI> I have been trying to obtain a copy of an operating AI> system for the s-50 that can convert s-550 files into s-50 files. AI> I went to lotus and under the Roland directory I got a document AI> and they mentioned that this operating system is SYS505 or AI> something. I found this file in the operating system directory, AI> I can't remember whether it was under Roland or not. Every time AI> I download it fine except that pkunzip says there is no zip file. AI> Am I using the write decompression utillity? Has anyone else been AI> succesfull with this file? I even copied the file at school AI> straight from my account there so that no downloading was AI> necessary but it still didn't work. AI> AI> thanks in advance. AI> AI> -rob You are probably running an old version of PkUnzip. Download from CICA or Simtel-20 the new version (2.x) Hope it helps, Giora Drachsler Hebrew University Jerusalem, Israel Giora@SHUM.cc.huji.ac.il From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 28 01:13:41 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 01:13:38 -0400 Received: from sdcc13.ucsd.edu ([132.239.50.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 01:03:47 -0400 Received: from jdawes.extern.ucsd.edu by sdcc13.ucsd.edu (8.6.8.1/1.37.bk) id WAA07088; Thu, 27 Oct 1994 22:03:28 -0700 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: jdawes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (John Dawes) Subject: Ear Training Software For Sale Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 18:00:24 -0400 Message-ID: Status: R Since you all are fellow musicians...and....just in case anyone is interested in training their ear better...I have a pretty neat program for the IBM called Play It By Ear. I paid $89 for it and I am selling it for $40. It has everything....Box, manuals, orig. disks, etc. It supports MPU-401, Sound Blaster and a few other sound cards. It has really helped me in my musical training. Thanks, Jophn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Dawes Music Technology / Computer Science jdawes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu Handle Head Messiah ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 28 08:19:10 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 08:19:00 -0400 Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com ([131.107.1.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <136>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 08:05:24 -0400 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA09434; Fri, 28 Oct 94 05:06:31 -0700 Message-Id: <9410281206.AA09434@netmail2.microsoft.com> Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Fri, 28 Oct 94 05:06:31 PDT X-Msmail-Message-Id: B0F37BE2 X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: B0F37BE2 From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 14:38:55 -0400 Subject: W30 SCSI Answer !! Status: R >From a popular magazine published November 1994. "Q. I want to use my Roland W-30 keyboard with SCSI. The connector is in place, but it won't work. The dealer says I need the "W 30 SCSI kit," which is no longer available. Does anyone offer a compatible kit ?" "A. The KW-30 SCSI kit, which included a SCSI communitcations IC, system disk, and owner's manual, was previously sold through Roland dealers but has been discontinued. Nonetheless, the indubidual compenonets are still available through Roalnd service senters, and the combined price is slightly lower. The SCSI IC is part number 15172969, suggested list $67. The system disk is part number 22403175, $16. The KW-30 owner's manual (no part number) costs $12.50. Installation is extra. This is a simple plub-n-go update as the SCSI connector is already persent on the W-30, behind a protective panel. Installation should be performed by an authorized service centre, however, to protect the warranties of the kit and instrument." I'm going to try and get these from Roland UK (I'm in Ireland) and then I'll try Roland US. Hope that helps. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 28 09:07:18 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 09:07:13 -0400 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu ([137.99.26.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <138>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 08:58:37 -0400 Received: from morsec.eeb.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 28 Oct 94 08:55:34 EDT X-Sender: ebgadm01@uconnvm.uconn.edu (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 06:44:11 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca From: EBGADM01@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (Clinton Morse - EEB Greenhouse Manager) Subject: Re: Introduction X-Mailer: Message-Id: <94Oct28.085837edt.138@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: R Hello All, I am new to this list and thought I'd post a brief intro. I do not own a Roland Sampler per se but as I used to be an authorized repair tech for Roland (and Korg, Yamaha etc) I really appreciate the quality of Roland Gear. So when it came time to finally bite the bullet and get a sound card for my PC, I got the Roland RAP10-ATB Audio Production board. It's basically a sound canvas with two stereo 44.1khz recording channels. Up to sixteen .wav files can be pipelined in each channel and the reverb/chorus DSP applied to it live. It also has an impressive software suite with it. My initial interest in this group is to locate software that will convert standard professional sample libraries to windows wav format so I can use them with the new board. Also if any sample libraries are available that would be cool too! I do not have any keyboard at this time (sold my Juno 106 a few years back) but am looking into used RD-200 type keyboards. Later... ------------------------------------------------------- | Clinton Morse Greenhouse Manager | | Department of Ecology & Evolutionary Biology | | University of Connecticut, Storrs CT 06269 | | E-Mail to: ebgadm01@uconnvm.uconn.edu | | EEB Greenhouse World Wide Web Server : | | http://florawww.eeb.uconn.edu/homepage.htm | ------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 28 10:12:56 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:12:42 -0400 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu ([137.99.26.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 10:02:26 -0400 Received: from morsec.eeb.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 28 Oct 94 09:59:18 EDT X-Sender: ebgadm01@uconnvm.uconn.edu (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 09:04:09 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca From: EBGADM01@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (Clinton Morse - EEB Greenhouse Manager) Subject: Re: RAP10 Seq. Software X-Mailer: Message-Id: <94Oct28.100226edt.159@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: R Khew, The software suite that the RAP 10 comes with is geared more to putting together a total composition. It has a 'rack' of tools such as CD Player, Wave Recorder/Player, Wave Editor, Midi Player and my favorite so far - the Wave/Midi Event Mixer. I think Roland figured that there were many other sequencer packages available so they concentrated on these 'production tools' instead. the Event mixer is essentially an 18 channel console - 2 channels for your waves and 16 channels of midi all of which can be assigned to the sound canvas or external synths. It allows you to modify the levels of your 'mix', add reverb, chorus, panning and a assignable control which can go to pitch, modulation or any assignable controller. It records these control changes to a session file which includes the original midi tracks, wave sequences and mix-down control changes - their demo has some neat scat vocals in the wave channel. Note that there is a lot of stuff on this console - you need at least a 1024x768 monitor to get it all on screen and at 15" it is still awfully tiny. I have been playing with the Demo of WinJammer Pro and am going to try out the demo of Cakewalk tonite. Anyone recommend other good freeware/shareware sequencers available via FTP or on a BBS? Later..... ---------------------------------------------- Clinton Morse - Greenhouse Manager Department of Ecology & Evolutionary Biology University of Connecticut, Storrs CT 06269 E-Mail to: ebgadm01@uconnvm.uconn.edu WWW Server: http://florawww.eeb.uconn.edu/ ---------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 28 12:17:34 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:17:20 -0400 Received: from freenet.buffalo.edu ([128.205.200.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:08:32 -0400 Received: (ai419@localhost) by freenet.buffalo.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id MAA17821; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:08:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:08:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199410281608.MAA17821@freenet.buffalo.edu> From: ai419@freenet.buffalo.edu (Robert L Phillips Jr. ) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Re: downloading SYS505 problem Reply-To: ai419@freenet.buffalo.edu Status: RO > > >AI> >AI> Hello sgroup people. >AI> >AI> I have been trying to obtain a copy of an operating >AI> system for the s-50 that can convert s-550 files into s-50 files. >AI> I went to lotus and under the Roland directory I got a document >AI> and they mentioned that this operating system is SYS505 or >AI> something. I found this file in the operating system directory, >AI> I can't remember whether it was under Roland or not. Every time >AI> I download it fine except that pkunzip says there is no zip file. >AI> Am I using the write decompression utillity? Has anyone else been >AI> succesfull with this file? I even copied the file at school >AI> straight from my account there so that no downloading was >AI> necessary but it still didn't work. >AI> >AI> thanks in advance. >AI> >AI> -rob > > You are probably running an old version of PkUnzip. Download > from CICA or Simtel-20 the new version (2.x) > > Hope it helps, > > Giora Drachsler > Hebrew University > Jerusalem, Israel > Giora@SHUM.cc.huji.ac.il Well now I'm confused. Someone says that this is a mac file and someone says that I have an old Pkunzip. The file is SYS505.zip so I figured it is for the ibm and I got my Pkunzip maybe 2 or 3 months ago. Can anyone help clarify this? Any help is appreciated. -rob -- -ai419@freenet.acsu.buffalo.edu- From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 28 12:33:13 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:33:03 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77547-4>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:32:55 -0400 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu ([137.99.26.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <137>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:23:00 -0400 Received: from morsec.eeb.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 28 Oct 94 12:19:57 EDT X-Sender: ebgadm01@uconnvm.uconn.edu (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 11:24:50 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca From: EBGADM01@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (Clinton Morse - EEB Greenhouse Manager) Subject: Re: SYS550 Problems X-Mailer: Message-Id: <94Oct28.122300edt.137@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO The file was probably zipped under a newer version of PKZip than you are trying to unzip with. Obtain the latest version which, last I knew, was 2.04g. ---------------------------------------------- Clinton Morse - Greenhouse Manager Department of Ecology & Evolutionary Biology University of Connecticut, Storrs CT 06269 E-Mail to: ebgadm01@uconnvm.uconn.edu WWW Server: http://florawww.eeb.uconn.edu/ ---------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 28 13:06:42 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 13:06:37 -0400 Received: from UConnVM.UConn.Edu ([137.99.26.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <180>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 12:57:47 -0400 Received: from morsec.eeb.uconn.edu by UConnVM.UConn.Edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 28 Oct 94 12:54:40 EDT X-Sender: ebgadm01@uconnvm.uconn.edu (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 11:59:34 -0400 To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca From: EBGADM01@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (Clinton Morse - EEB Greenhouse Manager) Subject: Re: 'Z' Compression? X-Mailer: Message-Id: <94Oct28.125747edt.180@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO I was just checking out the S-Group FTP site. What compression program is needed to decompress files with a *.Z extension? Also, where can I FTP this program from. Thanks..... ---------------------------------------------- Clinton Morse - Greenhouse Manager Department of Ecology & Evolutionary Biology University of Connecticut, Storrs CT 06269 E-Mail to: ebgadm01@uconnvm.uconn.edu WWW Server: http://florawww.eeb.uconn.edu/ ---------------------------------------------- From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 28 22:38:47 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 22:38:37 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77147-3>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 22:38:25 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <185>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 22:30:44 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id WAA17920; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 22:30:32 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199410290230.WAA17920@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: 'Z' Compression? To: EBGADM01@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (Clinton Morse - EEB Greenhouse Manager), sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 22:30:31 -0400 In-Reply-To: <94Oct28.125747edt.180@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> from "Clinton Morse - EEB Greenhouse Manager" at Oct 28, 94 11:59:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 559 Status: R > > I was just checking out the S-Group FTP site. What compression program is > needed to decompress files with a *.Z extension? Also, where can I FTP this > program from. Thanks..... the .Z extension is unix's compression... I think there are some utilities for PCs and Macs which will uncompress these files, but the best bet is to do it from a unix/shell account just before you download... just type "uncompress *.Z", or maybe it is "uncompress " without the extension. I can't remember, but I don't think it makes a difference. ;) JT From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 28 23:53:09 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 23:52:59 -0400 Received: from nuscc.nus.sg ([192.169.33.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <189>; Fri, 28 Oct 1994 23:45:17 -0400 Received: from netman.iscs.nus.sg (root@netman.iscs.nus.sg [137.132.87.2]) by nuscc.nus.sg (8.6.9/8.6.4) with SMTP id LAA28185 for ; Sat, 29 Oct 1994 11:45:10 +0800 Received: from sununx.iscs.nus.sg (fongsiul) by netman.iscs.nus.sg with SMTP id AA14452 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Sat, 29 Oct 1994 11:43:44 +0800 Received: (from fongsiul@localhost) by sununx.iscs.nus.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA04311 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Sat, 29 Oct 1994 11:43:43 +0800 From: _the_JazZMaN_ Message-Id: <199410290343.LAA04311@sununx.iscs.nus.sg> Subject: W30 SCSI Answer!! To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 23:43:43 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 781 Status: R [snip] "A. The KW-30 SCSI kit, which included a SCSI communitcations IC, system disk, and owner's manual, was previously sold through Roland dealers but has been discontinued. Nonetheless, the indubidual compenonets are still available through Roalnd service senters, and the combined price is slightly lower. The SCSI IC is part number 15172969, suggested list $67. The system disk is part number 22403175, $16. => Peter, if you are getting the disk, can you try and get me an extra one? I am trying to get the chip on my side. _______ / DISCS National University of Singapore ) / Internet: fongsiul@iscs.nus.sg )RIAN FONG / a.k.a. the_JazZMaN_ B') -Christian-GUSser-jazz-r&b-bassguitar-synth-tennis-ST&SW-Xmen- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat Oct 29 07:57:36 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Sat, 29 Oct 1994 07:57:33 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <190>; Sat, 29 Oct 1994 07:46:13 -0400 Received: (from khewss@localhost) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA24867; Sat, 29 Oct 1994 19:45:47 +0800 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 07:45:47 -0400 From: Khew Sin Sun Subject: Re: RAP10 Seq. Software To: Clinton Morse - EEB Greenhouse Manager cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <94Oct28.100226edt.159@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Thanks for the insight on the RAP-10,i noticed when a friend of mine was showing his to me,the processing time when doing a cut and paste of some .wav files was atrociously loooong....is that becoz of the s/w or the computer? And can u do what all samplers can do on the RAP 10? Like have a .wav drum loop going in synhc with the sequencer and lay down the other sounds from the sound module? Khew From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!microsoft.com!peterfit Sun Oct 30 00:39:49 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-1>; Sun, 30 Oct 1994 00:39:42 -0400 Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com ([131.107.1.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <194>; Sun, 30 Oct 1994 00:21:40 -0400 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA27662; Sat, 29 Oct 94 21:22:32 -0700 Message-Id: <9410300422.AA27662@netmail2.microsoft.com> Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Sat, 29 Oct 94 21:22:32 PDT X-Msmail-Message-Id: 3816A8CD X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: 3816A8CD From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: sgroup-owner@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 06:54:37 -0500 Subject: RE: W30 SCSI Answer !! Status: R Further information : called Roland UK and they have the manual and system disk (more expensive than US prices) they don't and never had the IC. I called Roland US and they have mailed the chip (after I have a Credit card number of course) to me (via an American friend) (they won't mail outside USA). Now : can anyone help me with a copy of the system disk or better still advice on installation ? I'm also curious : will my Syquest 44/88 drive work with this system ? All answers greatly appreciated. -Peter ---------- From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: Subject: W30 SCSI Answer !! Date: 28 October 1994 14:38 >From a popular magazine published November 1994. "Q. I want to use my Roland W-30 keyboard with SCSI. The connector is in place, but it won't work. The dealer says I need the "W 30 SCSI kit," which is no longer available. Does anyone offer a compatible kit ?" "A. The KW-30 SCSI kit, which included a SCSI communitcations IC, system disk, and owner's manual, was previously sold through Roland dealers but has been discontinued. Nonetheless, the indubidual compenonets are still available through Roalnd service senters, and the combined price is slightly lower. The SCSI IC is part number 15172969, suggested list $67. The system disk is part number 22403175, $16. The KW-30 owner's manual (no part number) costs $12.50. Installation is extra. This is a simple plub-n-go update as the SCSI connector is already persent on the W-30, behind a protective panel. Installation should be performed by an authorized service centre, however, to protect the warranties of the kit and instrument." I'm going to try and get these from Roland UK (I'm in Ireland) and then I'll try Roland US. Hope that helps. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 30 20:59:56 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sun, 30 Oct 1994 20:59:54 -0500 Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com ([131.107.1.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <187>; Sun, 30 Oct 1994 20:48:12 -0500 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA05478; Sun, 30 Oct 94 17:49:26 -0800 Message-Id: <9410310149.AA05478@netmail2.microsoft.com> Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Sun, 30 Oct 94 17:49:26 PST X-Msmail-Message-Id: E345BD21 X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: E345BD21 From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 04:36:24 -0500 Subject: WTB : W30 SCSI DRIVE Status: R Wanted : W30 compatible SCSI hard drive. If my information is correct I should try to get either a 40 or 80 meg sony mechanism drive. But am willing to try any compatible drive. can anyone tell me : will my 44/88 syquest work with the SCSI upgrade ? (I'm still waiting on the parts for my upgrade to arrive) cheers, Peter From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 30 21:18:16 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Sun, 30 Oct 1994 21:18:12 -0500 Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com ([131.107.1.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <195>; Sun, 30 Oct 1994 21:08:21 -0500 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA05812; Sun, 30 Oct 94 18:09:35 -0800 Message-Id: <9410310209.AA05812@netmail2.microsoft.com> Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Sun, 30 Oct 94 18:09:35 PST X-Msmail-Message-Id: E362BE9E X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: E362BE9E From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sun, 30 Oct 1994 04:55:41 -0500 Subject: WTB : W-30 SCSI Drives Status: R Wanted : compatible 40 and or 80 MB scsi drives for my W-30. Does anyone know if my 44/88MB syquest will work with my scsi upgrade (when it arrives) ??? All help welcome -Peter From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 31 01:14:22 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-1>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 01:14:16 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77296-4>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 01:14:05 -0500 Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca ([129.128.5.214]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 01:03:33 -0500 Received: from gpu.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA2.0.0.93Dec20) id XAA00297 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 1994 23:03:25 -0700 Received: (from martinp@localhost) by gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) id AAA134005; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 00:02:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 00:59:44 -0500 From: Paul Martin Subject: (f Roland Sampler $650 (fwd) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.cA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO This caught my eye today on rec.music.makers.synth. A good deal for anyone in search of a 550. Paul ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: Roland Sampler $650 Date: 27 Oct 1994 17:06:03 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 4 Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com Message-ID: <38p4nr$7ui@newsbf01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com Roland S-550 Sampler. 28 second of sampling time, monochrome monitor output, extension for mouse and SCSI port. $650 1-317-864-9684 From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 31 09:40:46 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 09:40:35 -0500 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <136>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 09:22:26 -0500 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id JAA13725; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 09:22:12 -0500 From: JT Message-Id: <199410311422.JAA13725@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: (f Roland Sampler $650 (fwd) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (sgroup) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 09:22:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: from "Paul Martin" at Oct 31, 94 00:59:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 896 Status: RO > > This caught my eye today on rec.music.makers.synth. A good deal for > anyone in search of a 550. > Paul > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Subject: Roland Sampler $650 > Date: 27 Oct 1994 17:06:03 -0400 > Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) > Lines: 4 > Sender: news@newsbf01.news.aol.com > Message-ID: <38p4nr$7ui@newsbf01.news.aol.com> > NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf01.news.aol.com > > Roland S-550 Sampler. 28 second of sampling time, monochrome monitor > output, extension for mouse and SCSI port. $650 > > 1-317-864-9684 If anyone is interested in this, make sure it does have the mouse. The Roland mice aren't exactly PC mice (different wiring config), so unless you get the mouse with it, it might be a pain to get it working right. As far as "extension" goes, I wonder ifthat does mean he has the SCSI card and mouse, or just the "potential". ;) JT From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 31 11:04:12 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 11:04:06 -0500 Received: from VAXTM1.RTPNC.EPA.GOV ([134.67.208.95]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <138>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 10:50:23 -0500 Received: from pyxis.rtpnc.epa.gov by epavax.rtpnc.epa.gov (PMDF V4.3-10 #5309) id <01HIX8CY3LF48X7YTG@epavax.rtpnc.epa.gov>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 10:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mr.rtpnc.epa.gov by mail.rtpnc.epa.gov (PMDF V4.3-10 #5309) id <01HIX835UHCW8Y6T4H@mail.rtpnc.epa.gov>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 10:14:37 -0500 (EST) Received: with PMDF-MR; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 10:11:19 EST MR-Received: by mta PYXIS; Relayed; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 10:11:19 -0500 Alternate-recipient: prohibited Disclose-recipients: prohibited Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 09:47:00 -0500 From: JAY KRESS 202-233-9339 Subject: unix "compress" on dos boxes To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Cc: EBGADM01@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU, jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Message-id: <01HIX85ZHZ968Y6T4H@mr.rtpnc.epa.gov> X-Envelope-to: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Posting-date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 09:57:00 -0500 (EST) Importance: normal Priority: normal X400-MTS-identifier: [;91110113014991/1919341@MAIL] A1-type: MAIL Hop-count: 1 Status: RO if you can FTP, you can grab yourself a copy of gnu's zip, which will deal with unix's "compress" (.Z) -created files, in a DOS environment. where do you get it from? GARBO.UWASA.FI under /pc/decode there are some other goodies there as well. as for that guy who was having the problems with the .ZIP file, was he sure he spec'd "bin" before ftp'ing it home? because "asc" is the default, he might has a fried file to begin with, unless he brought it home as a binary... THEN he might try the different decompressors. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 31 12:10:33 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 12:10:28 -0500 Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA ([132.204.2.103]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <137>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 12:00:09 -0500 Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA05751 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Mon, 31 Oct 1994 11:57:56 -0500 Received: from mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA11141; Mon, 31 Oct 94 11:57:55 -0500 Received: by mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA13487; Mon, 31 Oct 94 11:57:54 -0500 From: stjacque@ERE.UMontreal.CA (St-Jacques Marc) Message-Id: <9410311657.AA13487@mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: About S-Sampler SyxEx To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca (sgroup ) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 11:57:54 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1275 Status: RO Hello all. I have two manuals for S-50, one in French and one in English, who both send contradictory facts about the S-50's SyxEx. While the first is more volubile on the messages sent to the sampler, its contradicts the second as for the existence of Midi SyxEx implementation. Both books don't give a single byte of information on the SyxEx potential of the sampler. Obviously, with programs like SampleVision, there's proof that Midi SyxEx can be sent to the S-50. My question: Does anybody have the complete Midi SysEx charts of either the S-50, S-550, and other S or W samplers. Can anyone confirm the existence of such charts in their documentation? If anybody would send me the relevant pages, I would gladly pay for shipping. In this electronic age, one could also send me a scanned TIFF thru e-mail. Ta-ta! Marc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc St-Jacques "Allons, bon! Qu'est-ce qu'il me veut encore!!! C'est pas dans ces conditions que j'arriverai a passer ma these." stjacque@ere.Umontreal.ca - Kador, par Binet. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 31 15:28:45 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 15:28:40 -0500 Received: from nrcnet0.nrc.ca ([132.246.160.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 15:18:47 -0500 Received: from coursmtp.nrc.ca by nrcnet0.nrc.ca with SMTP id AA09768 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 31 Oct 1994 15:18:42 -0500 Received: by coursmtp.nrc.ca with Microsoft Mail id <2EB55122@coursmtp.nrc.ca>; Mon, 31 Oct 94 15:18:42 EST From: "Caron, Antoine" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Utility 1.0 vs 1.03 Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 15:16:00 -0500 Message-Id: <2EB55122@coursmtp.nrc.ca> Encoding: 6 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Status: R I recently retrieved Utility OS 1.03 (for S-330) from ftp Waterloo. I've used it (successfuly) for the hacker mode. Are there other differences/improvements compared to 1.0? Any info is appreciated Antoine W caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 31 18:05:34 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-1>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 18:05:28 -0500 Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com ([131.107.1.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <180>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 17:55:42 -0500 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA21354; Mon, 31 Oct 94 14:56:41 -0800 Message-Id: <9410312256.AA21354@netmail2.microsoft.com> Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Mon, 31 Oct 94 14:56:40 PST X-Msmail-Message-Id: FEB9AEF9 X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: FEB9AEF9 From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 01:08:40 -0500 Subject: RE: Utility 1.0 vs 1.03 Cc: sgroup@lotus.Uwaterloo.ca Status: R I've never heard of the hacker mode in the S330. Is there a similar mode in the W30 ?????? -Peter ---------- From: "Caron, Antoine" To: Subject: Utility 1.0 vs 1.03 Date: 31 October 1994 15:16 I recently retrieved Utility OS 1.03 (for S-330) from ftp Waterloo. I've used it (successfuly) for the hacker mode. Are there other differences/improvements compared to 1.0? Any info is appreciated Antoine W caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 31 22:07:39 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-2>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 22:07:33 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77994-4>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 22:07:29 -0500 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <185>; Mon, 31 Oct 1994 21:58:46 -0500 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA13883; Mon, 31 Oct 94 21:42:51 EST From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from dspsun by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA00875; Mon, 31 Oct 94 13:45:01 EST Received: by dspsun (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA11507; Mon, 31 Oct 94 13:44:59 EST Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 13:44:59 -0500 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9410311844.AA11507@dspsun> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: About S-Sampler SyxEx Status: R Dans la Matrice, Marc a dit: > My question: Does anybody have the complete Midi SysEx charts of either > the S-50, S-550, and other S or W samplers. Can anyone confirm the existence Just recently I've started sequencing on the MC50 instead of using Director-S on my S550. Directory-S would save the S550's setups for its eight parts (A-H). But how can this be done from the MC50? Simple, use sysex. I used the one-way communication protocol to load data into certain addresses to set up the channel (1-16, or off) used by each part. Although I used Program Change messages to choose the patches used by the active parts, it appears that choosing patches can also be done in sysex, as vell as output port select and volume settings. So if you have other multitimbral instruments occupying the same MIDI channels as your S550 (etc), use MIDI to set up the other modules and sysex to set up the S550 and the two will layer voices when MIDI note-ons start arriving! If anybody is interested in how I constructed my sysex messages, I'll be happy to bring in my examples to work. In the mean time, Marc, will my S550 manual sysex pages be of any use to you? (Please send me your address.) Also, be warned that at least on the specific example I tried, there is information that I had to learn by experimentation as it wasn't shown in the manual. In the process, I even set part A's chammel to 33! (Hmmm....) Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com