From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 2 10:12:03 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-1>; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:11:54 -0400 Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA ([132.204.2.103]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <36>; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:11:25 -0400 Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA15473 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:09:57 -0400 Received: from mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA05132; Fri, 2 Sep 94 10:09:56 -0400 Received: by mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA06962; Fri, 2 Sep 94 10:09:55 -0400 From: stjacque@ERE.UMontreal.CA (St-Jacques Marc) Message-Id: <9409021409.AA06962@mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: Where's the TR-909 To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca (sgroup ) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:09:54 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 617 Status: R Hi guys. Somebody uploaded a S-50 disk of TR-909 sounds. Care to tell me where I can find it? If not a Waterloo, could someone send me a Samdisk Version by E-mail? Marc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc St-Jacques "Allons, bon! Qu'est-ce qu'il me veut encore!!! C'est pas dans ces conditions que j'arriverai a passer ma these." stjacque@ere.Umontreal.ca - Kador, par Binet. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 14 14:08:32 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-1>; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 14:08:30 -0400 Received: from amazonas.cic.unb.br ([164.41.14.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <249>; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 13:54:02 -0400 Received: by amazonas.cic.unb.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07121; Wed, 14 Sep 94 14:57:05 EST Date: Wed, 14 Sep 1994 15:57:05 -0400 From: zeppe@cic.unb.br (Osman) Message-Id: <9409141757.AA07121@amazonas.cic.unb.br> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Looking for MF2T and T2MF Status: R Hello Everybody Could someone tell me where can I find the conversion routines: MF2T (Midi File to Text) and T2MF (Text to Midi File) Thanks Osman Giuseppe Gioia zeppe@cic.unb.br Brasilia - Brasil From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 15 00:31:58 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 00:31:51 -0400 Received: from rigel.oac.uci.edu ([128.200.80.22]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <255>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 00:15:04 -0400 Received: by rigel.oac.uci.edu id AA28752 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Wed, 14 Sep 1994 21:14:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 00:14:50 -0400 From: Stephen Bang Subject: Roland Alpha Juno 1&2/Yamaha TQ5 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Does anybody know where I can get a hold of bulk midi dump files or patch editors/sounds for Roland Juno-1 (or 2), yamaha TQ5, Akai AX80, or Boss DR-550 Drum Patterns? any help is appreciated. Thanks Steve eauu559@rigel.oac.uci.edu From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 15 10:02:41 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-3>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:02:29 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77116-4>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:02:17 -0400 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <257>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 09:51:09 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.com id AA18678; Thu, 15 Sep 94 09:44:12 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from dspsun by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA00477; Thu, 15 Sep 94 09:44:34 EDT Received: by dspsun (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA10003; Thu, 15 Sep 94 09:44:31 EDT Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 09:44:31 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9409151344.AA10003@dspsun> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: Roland Alpha Juno 1&2/Yamaha TQ5 Status: R > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 00:14:50 -0400 > From: att!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner > Subject: Roland Alpha Juno 1&2/Yamaha TQ5 > To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > Does anybody know where I can get a hold of bulk midi dump files or patch > editors/sounds for Roland Juno-1 (or 2), yamaha TQ5, Akai AX80, or Boss > DR-550 Drum Patterns? any help is appreciated. > > Thanks > > Steve > eauu559@rigel.oac.uci.edu Sorry, Steve. You're out of luck on the DR550 in terms of MIDI bulk dumps. That little beastie only has a MIDI in (no way out!) and can only save patterns to tape! (The original DR550 - I can't speak about the MkII version.) Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 15 10:54:25 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-2>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:54:13 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77295-4>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:53:58 -0400 Received: from MegaVolt.hut.nl ([145.89.38.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <258>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 10:41:15 -0400 Received: from cetis.hut.nl (cetis-fs.hut.nl) by MegaVolt.hut.nl (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA11374; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 16:41:57 +0000 Received: from CETIS/MAILQUEUE by cetis.hut.nl (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 15 Sep 94 16:42:03 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQUEUE by CETIS (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 15 Sep 94 16:41:56 GMT+1 From: "Johan Pater" Organization: Hogeschool Utrecht / Cetis To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 12:41:14 -0400 Subject: Hello all fellow W30 users. Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.21 Message-Id: <1716A920C4@cetis.hut.nl> content-length: 1131 Status: R Hi there, I am back again cause i was on vacation and i wondered if there are still some people left who have the very old and decent machine from Roland called the W30 ????? I know that there are still some people out there who make use of such a machine and i want to know what kinda samples/patches they have and what they have done with there Roland W30. Meaning...like if you have extra memory build in or a SCSI-HDD and how much it costed ? So i guess that's it for me so see ya all l8r, Johan Pater ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cetis | | Centre for Educational Technology, Innovation and Stafftraining | | at the 'Hogeschool Utrecht' University for Vocational Education | ------------------------------------------------------------------- | INTERNET : JPATER@CETIS.HUT.NL | PO-BOX 573 | | FAX : (+31) (0)30-368180 | 3500 AN UTRECHT | | PHONE : (+31) (0)30-308117 | THE NETHERLANDS (EUROPE)| ------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 15 11:19:58 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:19:46 -0400 Received: from inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com ([16.1.0.23]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <259>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:07:33 -0400 Received: from brons.lkg.dec.com by inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com (5.65/10Aug94) id AA05400; Thu, 15 Sep 94 08:01:10 -0700 Return-Path: EH@ranger.enet.dec.com Received: by brons.lkg.dec.com (UCX V3.1 VAX) Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:03:12 -0400 X-Sender: Eirikur@ranger.lkg.dec.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:57:33 -0400 To: , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: EH@Ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson) Subject: Re: Roland Alpha Juno 1&2/Yamaha TQ5 Status: R Sorry to say, but the AX-80 does not do sysex. Eirikur Eirikur Hallgrimsson eh@ranger.enet.dec.com Generic Epistemologist "Remember this, foolish mortals, when ye stare headlong into the mind-paralyzing void, the inky black nothingness of existence, the hellish yawning maw of the abyss -- it's pretty damn dark, so give it a few minutes for your eyes to adjust." Frank M. Carrano From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 15 12:51:37 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 12:51:33 -0400 Received: from panix.com ([198.7.0.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <260>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 12:39:58 -0400 Received: from quest (quest.dialup.access.net) by panix.com with SMTP id AA14846 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Sep 1994 12:39:45 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 03:40:59 -0400 From: "Quest" Subject: Just Bought an S-760 & have a few questions....(thanks!) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: VersaTerm Link v1.1.4 Status: R I am now in the modern era of sampling....hurray!....I'm also kind of broke to:-). I got a deal on my S-760....but I did not get the OP board for digital I/O, Monitor, etc. Any suggestions on dealers with great pricing on that optional board? Is $350 what they should cost...or there abouts? I've been able to buy a used SC1224 monitor for $70.......is Redmond Cable in TN the only source for the cable "interfacing cable" for the connection between the S-760 and Atari SC1224. (Roland recommend the Atari monitor). MacAttack quoted me $306 for a 72 Pin 8 Meg module....I think that's a good deal...unless anyone else knows of better one.... Please email me if you need/want one of these Atari monitors...the guy I bought mine from has 3-4 more. Any help/direction would be appreciated! Thanks... Lance From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 15 14:26:06 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:25:56 -0400 Received: from rigel.oac.uci.edu ([128.200.80.22]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <265>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:13:39 -0400 Received: by rigel.oac.uci.edu id AA13863 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:13:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:13:30 -0400 From: Stephen Bang Subject: Re: Roland Alpha Juno 1&2/Yamaha TQ5 To: "william.b.fox" Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <9409151344.AA10003@dspsun> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, william.b.fox wrote: > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 00:14:50 -0400 > > From: att!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner > > Subject: Roland Alpha Juno 1&2/Yamaha TQ5 > > To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > > > Does anybody know where I can get a hold of bulk midi dump files or patch > > editors/sounds for Roland Juno-1 (or 2), yamaha TQ5, Akai AX80, or Boss > > DR-550 Drum Patterns? any help is appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > Steve > > eauu559@rigel.oac.uci.edu > > Sorry, Steve. You're out of luck on the DR550 in terms of MIDI bulk > dumps. That little beastie only has a MIDI in (no way out!) and can > only save patterns to tape! (The original DR550 - I can't speak about > the MkII version.) > > Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com > you know what,.. you're right. I gotta get rid of this thing.. Steve From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 15 14:37:27 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:37:22 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77710-3>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:37:19 -0400 Received: from rigel.oac.uci.edu ([128.200.80.22]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <266>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:25:56 -0400 Received: by rigel.oac.uci.edu id AA13948 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:14:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:14:39 -0400 From: Stephen Bang Subject: Re: Hello all fellow W30 users. To: Johan Pater Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <1716A920C4@cetis.hut.nl> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, Johan Pater wrote: > Hi there, > > I am back again cause i was on vacation and i wondered if there are > still some people left who have the very old and decent machine from > Roland called the W30 ????? > > I know that there are still some people out there who make use of > such a machine and i want to know what kinda samples/patches they > have and what they have done with there Roland W30. Meaning...like if > you have extra memory build in or a SCSI-HDD and how much it costed ? > > > So i guess that's it for me so see ya all l8r, > > > > Johan Pater > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Cetis | > | Centre for Educational Technology, Innovation and Stafftraining | > | at the 'Hogeschool Utrecht' University for Vocational Education | > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > | INTERNET : JPATER@CETIS.HUT.NL | PO-BOX 573 | > | FAX : (+31) (0)30-368180 | 3500 AN UTRECHT | > | PHONE : (+31) (0)30-308117 | THE NETHERLANDS (EUROPE)| > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > the w30 was a great sampler,.. all i can tell you is that if you're looking for samples I believe i saw some on lotus.uwaterloo.ca somewhere. Steve From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 15 14:49:38 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-2>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:49:27 -0400 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <269>; Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:38:19 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA13808; Thu, 15 Sep 94 14:27:38 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from dspsun by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA03739; Thu, 15 Sep 94 14:28:27 EDT Received: by dspsun (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA11526; Thu, 15 Sep 94 14:28:24 EDT Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 14:28:24 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9409151828.AA11526@dspsun> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: Roland Alpha Juno 1&2/Yamaha TQ5 Status: R > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 11:13:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: att!ea.oac.uci.edu!eauu559 > Subject: Re: Roland Alpha Juno 1&2/Yamaha TQ5 > To: "william.b.fox" > Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > In-Reply-To: <9409151344.AA10003@dspsun> > > On Thu, 15 Sep 1994, william.b.fox wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 00:14:50 -0400 > > > From: att!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner > > > Subject: Roland Alpha Juno 1&2/Yamaha TQ5 > > > To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > > > > > Does anybody know where I can get a hold of bulk midi dump files or patch > > > editors/sounds for Roland Juno-1 (or 2), yamaha TQ5, Akai AX80, or Boss > > > DR-550 Drum Patterns? any help is appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Steve > > > eauu559@rigel.oac.uci.edu > > > > Sorry, Steve. You're out of luck on the DR550 in terms of MIDI bulk > > dumps. That little beastie only has a MIDI in (no way out!) and can > > only save patterns to tape! (The original DR550 - I can't speak about > > the MkII version.) > > > > Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com > > > you know what,.. you're right. I gotta get rid of this thing.. > > Steve But first, edit its pads so that its filters are wide open and its lengths are maxed out so you can sample it before you dump it! And upload the files to the ftp site, of course. Bill From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 16 05:06:15 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 05:06:04 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com ([198.60.22.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <256>; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 04:57:29 -0400 Received: from slc3.xmission.com (slc3.xmission.com [198.60.22.103]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA18604; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 02:56:24 -0600 Message-Id: <199409160856.CAA18604@xmission.xmission.com> X-Sender: alchemy@xmission.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 04:57:14 -0400 To: "Johan Pater" , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: alchemy@xmission.com (The Alchemist) Subject: Re: Hello all fellow W30 users. X-Mailer: Status: R At 12:41 PM 9/15/94 -0400, Johan Pater wrote: >Hi there, > >I am back again cause i was on vacation and i wondered if there are >still some people left who have the very old and decent machine from >Roland called the W30 ????? I've got one of these. =] >I know that there are still some people out there who make use of >such a machine and i want to know what kinda samples/patches they >have and what they have done with there Roland W30. Meaning...like if >you have extra memory build in or a SCSI-HDD and how much it costed ? I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 300+ disks of samples ranging from orchestral strings/brass/woodwinds/percussion to eastern and western instruments to industrial music drum samples to samples of movie quotes and sounds and so forth that I've done personally. I don't have any extra memory (although I would like some) and I don't have a SCSI interface (although I _NEED_ one =). Someone posted an address a while ago containing an address to get a SCSI interface for the W30. Now, if someone would be so kind as to post an address to get a memory upgade I would be in fat city. =] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 16 16:46:37 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-2>; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 16:46:29 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <264>; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 16:39:11 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA06589 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 13:38:56 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA18520 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 1994 13:46:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 1994 16:46:49 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199409162046.NAA18520@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Questions about SCSI Status: R Anyone know what Hard drives and/or CD-ROM drives will work with the Roland HD5-IF SCSI interface for S-550? Thanks in advance -steve PS - There also used to be a company that made an upgrade kit that would allow cartrigdes and faster Cd-ROM drives to be used.....ToneGenics I think they were called, but when I called the only number I have for them, it was disconnected. anyone know anything about them? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Sep 20 07:06:07 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 07:05:57 -0400 Received: from maxwell.ctech.ac.za ([155.238.4.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <196>; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 06:56:19 -0400 Received: from norton.ctech.ac.za by maxwell.ctech.ac.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qn2vc-0001F7C; Tue, 20 Sep 94 13:00 EET Received: from NORTON/PMAILQ by norton.ctech.ac.za (Mercury 1.1); Tue, 20 Sep 94 12:57:03 GMT-2 From: "Edwin Lloyd" Organization: Cape Technikon, South Africa To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 10:56:44 -0400 Subject: *> NEED SOME INFO Priority: normal X-mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-ID: <11BFAB5660F@norton.ctech.ac.za> Status: R Hello all I am new to this group [suppose you get this message 1000 times a day!] ,but I need some info on this group. I would like to know the types of samplers you discuss. I have a SoundBlaster AWE32, and in it's wavestudio I do most of my samples, and then load them into synth-bank-arranger software to play the samples on my Roland synth. I have my eye out for the S 770, but it is VERY expensive.I have lots of knowledge about professional samplers, and because it is my greatest interest, I always try to stay updated. But, I live in South Africa, and you see, when something new comes out here, it is usually old news in you countries. I hope to hear from you soon. Best wishes Edwin LLoyd From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Sep 20 08:33:59 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 08:33:50 -0400 Received: from isgate.is ([130.208.165.63]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <197>; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 08:23:16 -0400 Received: from rvik.ismennt.is by isgate.is (8.6.8/ISnet/14-10-91); Tue, 20 Sep 1994 12:22:49 GMT Received: by rvik.ismennt.is (16.8/ISnet/11-02-92); Tue, 20 Sep 94 12:23:17 GMT From: rhf@ismennt.is (Rikhardur H Fridriksson) Message-Id: <9409201223.AA10299@rvik.ismennt.is> Subject: Re: Questions about SCSI To: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 08:23:17 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <199409162046.NAA18520@demon.corp.portal.com> from "Steve Schow" at Sep 16, 94 04:46:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 863 Status: R Steve Schow asked: > Anyone know what Hard drives and/or CD-ROM drives will work with the > Roland HD5-IF SCSI interface for S-550? Don't know about the CD-Roms, but the hard drives are as following (according to the HD5-IF manual): APPLE: M-2620 (20M Byte) M-2644 (40M Byte) M-2688 (80M Byte) CMS: SD-20 (20M Byte) SD-80 (80M Byte) I don't know about the CMS-drives, but the Apple drives have been out of production for years and the only way to get them is second hand. > PS - There also used to be a company that made an upgrade kit that would > allow cartrigdes and faster Cd-ROM drives to be used.....ToneGenics I think > they were called, but when I called the only number I have for them, it > was disconnected. > > anyone know anything about them? Not me, at least. -- Rikhardur H. Fridriksson From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Sep 20 14:22:13 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 14:22:06 -0400 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <198>; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 14:11:41 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA04547; Tue, 20 Sep 94 14:10:21 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from dspsun by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA03774; Tue, 20 Sep 94 13:57:06 EDT Received: by dspsun (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA19071; Tue, 20 Sep 94 13:57:05 EDT Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 13:57:05 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9409201757.AA19071@dspsun> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re:Hacker mode Status: R > From: att!biotech.lan.nrc.ca!caron > To: wbf@aloft > Subject: Hacker mode > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 94 13:06:00 EDT > > Hi Bill, ca va? > > I've been able, using Hacker Mode on my S-330, to load W-30 > waves (I see the waves on "Wave display", and I see the tone > names on Disk/Tone dir). However I cannot hear the sounds > because there are no tones visible in any of the other menues > (Tone map,Tone parameters,etc). Do you know how to transform the > content of the wave banks (A and B) into tones? I used "Utility > Load" from the hacker mode extra options to load the W-30 disk, > so I thought "Utility Save" might work to save the sounds on an > S-330 disk, but only the System was saved. Any ideas? > Thanks > Antoine Caron caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca I've never used hacker mode. Would somebody who has, please help Antoine with this problem? Merci beaucoup. Bill From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Sep 20 15:45:15 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 15:45:06 -0400 Received: from mail.infinet.com ([198.30.154.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <199>; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 15:37:44 -0400 Received: from david by mail.infinet.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qnB0Z-000DL9C; Tue, 20 Sep 94 15:37 EDT Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.6v2); Tue, 20 Sep 94 15:37:08 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re:Hacker mode Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 16:37:08 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-ID: <0105009A.a9ch4c@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2 Status: R In Regards to your letter <9409201757.AA19071@dspsun>: > > > From: att!biotech.lan.nrc.ca!caron > > To: wbf@aloft > > Subject: Hacker mode > > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 94 13:06:00 EDT > > > > Hi Bill, ca va? > > > > I've been able, using Hacker Mode on my S-330, to load W-30 > > waves (I see the waves on "Wave display", and I see the tone > > names on Disk/Tone dir). However I cannot hear the sounds > > because there are no tones visible in any of the other menues > > (Tone map,Tone parameters,etc). Do you know how to transform the > > content of the wave banks (A and B) into tones? I used "Utility > > Load" from the hacker mode extra options to load the W-30 disk, > > so I thought "Utility Save" might work to save the sounds on an > > S-330 disk, but only the System was saved. Any ideas? > > Thanks > > Antoine Caron caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca > > I've never used hacker mode. Would somebody who has, please help > Antoine with this problem? Merci beaucoup. > > Bill From: davidw%rnd220@krf.jvnc.net (UNIXMAN) Subject: S550 hacker mode To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Group) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1993 19:24:41 -0400 I got my S550 technical service manual, here's the initial scoop so far: CPU: DEC Alpha RISC (just kidding) Intel 8095 (I looked inside too) Judging from my preliminary circuit diagram peeking, I think it is using the built-in A/D in the 8095. It also uses 2 gate-arrays at line in input and mic-level input. Some serious potential hardware hacking here, folks. It shows the SCSI adapter I/O pins, controls Western Digital floppy controller IC, pins, etc. Hacker Mode (at last): - Press and hold 1 and turn on S-550 (or 2 if you are using a mouse, etc.) - Insert Utility disk (ver. 1.01 or higher), let it load - Once loaded, Press these buttons in this sequential order: FUNC -> MENU -> [down arrow] -> EXECUTE -> MENU -> 0 -> DEC/NO - Video monitor now shows "Hacker Mode" - Press UTILITY, then press MENU to load the new utility menu from disk. - Click on or cursor over to "THE TEST" and hit enter. - Now you have all the groovy test mode stuff, I won't go into what everything is yet, because I haven't even read about most of it yet. It won't damage anything as far as my preliminary scanning thru the pages shows. Most of it is self-tests as far as I can tell. Bummer: I don't think I see any advanced tone/sample information features like the guy who posted the W-30 hacker mode setup said was in the W-30. Oh well, what the hell. S-330 owners: Try the above boot-up key sequence on the S-330, I bet it probably is the same, or else order the S-330 service manual (my S-550 tech manual was only $14) -------------------------------------------------------------------- David J. Wilson Knight-Ridder, Inc. EE student 75 Wall St. NYC, NY 10005 UNIX/Network Data Communications phone: 212-504-7845 internet: uunet!krfiny!davidw HP-UX !! davidw@krf.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 21 04:30:06 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:29:57 -0400 Received: from midiman.bstage.com ([156.151.128.213]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <200>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:14:30 -0400 Message-Id: <94Sep21.041430edt.200@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> From: To: Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:14:17 -0400 Status: RO From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 21 04:44:16 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:44:11 -0400 Received: from midiman.bstage.com ([156.151.128.213]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <201>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:29:31 -0400 Message-Id: <94Sep21.042931edt.201@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> From: To: Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:14:21 -0400 Status: RO From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 21 04:56:57 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:56:49 -0400 Received: from midiman.bstage.com ([156.151.128.213]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <208>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:43:41 -0400 Message-Id: <94Sep21.044341edt.208@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> From: To: Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:14:25 -0400 Status: RO From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 21 05:08:59 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 05:08:56 -0400 Received: from MegaVolt.hut.nl ([145.89.38.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <211>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:56:56 -0400 Received: from cetis.hut.nl (cetis-fs.hut.nl) by MegaVolt.hut.nl (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09437; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 10:50:30 +0000 Received: from CETIS/MAILQUEUE by cetis.hut.nl (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 21 Sep 94 10:50:20 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQUEUE by CETIS (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 21 Sep 94 10:50:15 GMT+1 From: "Johan Pater" Organization: Hogeschool Utrecht / Cetis To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 06:50:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: content-length: 819 Status: RO > From: > To: > Date sent: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 04:14:21 -0400 > Dont use up so much bandwidth with this crap !!! Johan Pater ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cetis | | Centre for Educational Technology, Innovation and Stafftraining | | at the 'Hogeschool Utrecht' University for Vocational Education | ------------------------------------------------------------------- | INTERNET : JPATER@CETIS.HUT.NL | PO-BOX 573 | | FAX : (+31) (0)30-368180 | 3500 AN UTRECHT | | PHONE : (+31) (0)30-308117 | THE NETHERLANDS (EUROPE)| ------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 21 15:00:10 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:59:53 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <212>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:52:51 -0400 Received: (from khewss@localhost) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id CAA04301; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 02:52:07 +0800 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:52:06 -0400 From: Khew Sin Sun Subject: Re: your mail To: sjs@midiman.bstage.com cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <94Sep21.044341edt.208@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Hey!! What's with the SGroup mailing list?? I keep on getting msg "heads" without the msg "body"!!!! Khew From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 21 16:07:14 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:07:06 -0400 Received: from crux3.cit.cornell.edu ([128.253.232.63]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <213>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:59:41 -0400 Received: by crux3.cit.cornell.edu (5.65/2.0) id AA19114; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:59:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:59:15 -0400 From: Mark G Simon Subject: slaving away in Director-S To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R I am going to be using my S-50 in a situation where there will be no access to a Macintosh, and therefore no way to run my Performer sequences, so I am faced with the prospect of digging out the old Director-S sequencer which I haven't touched since acquiring Performer. What I would like to do, but fear I won't be able to, is take the Performer sequences I would like to use, cut them into 2 or 3 measure "chunks" small enough to fit in a Director-S "pattern" and transfer these chunks to Director-S directly by slaving it to Performer. Page 72 of the Director-S manual talks about "The S-50 as slave" and says "it switches to its built-in clock, however, for the SONG PLAY and PATTERN WRITE modes". PATTERN WRITE mode is what you use for recording, so it would appear that what I want to do can't be done. Am I overlooking something? Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get my sequences into Director-S without re-recording them from scratch? Mark Simon mgs2@cornell.edu From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 21 16:27:36 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:27:25 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com ([198.60.22.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <214>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:19:56 -0400 Received: from slc26.xmission.com (slc26.xmission.com [198.60.22.126]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA27023 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:19:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199409212019.OAA27023@xmission.xmission.com> Sender: From: "The Alchemist" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 17:19:41 -0400 Subject: Purchasing an S-50 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Status: R Hello, s-groupers! I'm considering buying an S-50 sampler (used, of course) and I need to know a few things. 1) What would be a reasonable price for a starving college student/musician to pay for such a machine (including the monitor and editing tablet) 2) What hardware features does it have (can it access a CD-ROM or hard drive, does it have a built-in sequencer, what are its sampling rates and number of bits, etc. etc.) 3) Does it support MIDI Sample Dump standard? 4) What programs (for the IBM/compats) are available specifically for the S-50? 5) Will I be able to find a large library of sounds/sample disks for it? Any help will be appreciated... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 21 20:50:02 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 20:49:58 -0400 Received: from itnvax ([130.186.34.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <216>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 20:42:18 -0400 Received: from itnvax.science.unitn.it by itnvax.science.unitn.it (PMDF #2809 ) id <01HHEAVO5MDSAJLCCA@itnvax.science.unitn.it>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 02:43:04 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 22:43:03 -0400 From: "Stefano Oss - Dept.of Physics - 38050 POVO (TN) Italy" Subject: Sound Canvas SC50 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01HHEAVO5W0YAJLCCA@itnvax.science.unitn.it> X-VMS-To: IN%"sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO Hallo I would be interested in purchasing the SC55 module. But it was told me that it has been now replaced by the SC50. Does anybody already have s this animal? How does it work?? What about the price? I got (East coast) an offer for 599+tax... Thanks, Stefano. 7?: From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 05:23:46 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 05:23:36 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com ([198.60.22.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <218>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 05:13:36 -0400 Received: from slc16.xmission.com (slc16.xmission.com [198.60.22.116]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA21585 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 03:12:43 -0600 Message-Id: <199409220912.DAA21585@xmission.xmission.com> Sender: From: "The Alchemist" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 06:13:19 -0400 Subject: Headers + no text Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Status: RO I too am getting headers with no text in certain messages. What gives? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 10:56:13 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:56:00 -0400 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <221>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:48:05 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA23813; Thu, 22 Sep 94 10:44:45 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from dspsun by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA29774; Thu, 22 Sep 94 09:59:21 EDT Received: by dspsun (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA24838; Thu, 22 Sep 94 09:59:18 EDT Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 09:59:18 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9409221359.AA24838@dspsun> Original-To: biotech.lan.nrc.ca!caron, lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: Headers + no text Status: RO > Sender: > From: att!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner > To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 06:13:19 -0400 > Subject: Headers + no text > > I too am getting headers with no text in certain messages. What gives? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Alchemist Anthony Chavez > alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maybe this will shed some light on the subject... | From: att!biotech.lan.nrc.ca!caron | To: wbf@aloft | Subject: Oh, Oh, something's wrong | Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 16:24:00 EDT | | Hi Bill, | | At least two sgroup members have emailed to me that they receive | msg heads with nothing in them...apparently coming from me! One | of them (J. Pater) was even pretty angry. Maybe it's just a | coincidence, but it seems to have started when you posted my | hacker querie to the list (which was nice of you). Are you aware | of any problems? | | Antoine So sorry, Antoine. I'm not aware of any problems. I'm setting your direct mail OK. But I, too, have seen empty hearers from the sgroup. Ideas anybody? Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 11:29:56 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:29:52 -0400 Received: from siri1.siri.unit.no ([129.241.20.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <222>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:23:29 -0400 Received: from siri7.siri.unit.no by siri1.siri.unit.no with SMTP id (5.65+/1.2); Thu, 22 Sep 94 17:22:57 +0200 From: Thomas Hammer Received: by siri7.siri.unit.no ; Thu, 22 Sep 94 17:22:54 +0200 Message-Id: <9409221522.AA18482@siri7.siri.unit.no> Subject: Re: *> NEED SOME INFO To: ELLOYD@NORTON.CTECH.AC.ZA (Edwin Lloyd) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:22:53 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <11BFAB5660F@norton.ctech.ac.za> from "Edwin Lloyd" at Sep 20, 94 10:56:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 648 Status: RO Edwin wrote: > > I have a SoundBlaster AWE32, and in it's wavestudio I do most of my > samples, and then load them into synth-bank-arranger software to play > the samples on my Roland synth. And I have a question for him, and all you other guys: Is the AWE32 capable of functioning as a pro/musical sampler? : can it simultanously do = 32 voice sample playback of your own samples, input from comersial sequencer on the PC or from MIDI-in = midi playing through the midi-out = hard-disk-recording or playback, stereo Can any other soundcard do this, or are they all made only for the game-area? Thomas Hammer thammer@marina.unit.no From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 12:11:43 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:11:32 -0400 Received: from gate.compart.fi ([193.64.198.200]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <223>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:04:20 -0400 Received: (from jsalo@localhost) by gate.compart.fi (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA21260 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 19:05:46 +0300 From: Jouni Salo Message-Id: <199409221605.TAA21260@gate.compart.fi> Subject: S-10 samples To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:05:45 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 690 Status: R Hi there, I have this ancient S-10 and I'd like to know if there is good sources for samples anywhere. I live in Finland and the availability of Roland QDs is somewhat nonexistant here for such an old product. Any hints appreciated ;). Also, excuse for not being exactly a sampler question, I have a D-10 that sometimes seems to get vry confused, i.e. the display and buttons blink and the poor thing seems to be in great trouble booting itself up. I've heard rumours of power-on ROM reset key combinations that might help, but the manual does not document any features like that. Does anyone happen to know of any undocumented features of D-10? Thanks, Jouni Salo From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 12:59:57 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:59:42 -0400 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <224>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:49:36 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AB00453; Thu, 22 Sep 94 12:48:11 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from dspsun by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA01766; Thu, 22 Sep 94 12:38:32 EDT Received: by dspsun (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA25022; Thu, 22 Sep 94 12:38:29 EDT Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:38:29 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9409221638.AA25022@dspsun> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: slaving away in Director-S Status: R I have Dir-S on my S550 and it is the sequencer I know best. (No accounting for taste, eh?) I don't know how similar the S50 and S550 versions are, but I would think that they should be rather close. Mark, remember that there is a 300 event limit to each pattern. This means that the more dense your sequence, the smaller chunks you'll have to make. > directly by slaving it to Performer. Page 72 of the Director-S manual > talks about "The S-50 as slave" and says "it switches to its built-in > clock, however, for the SONG PLAY and PATTERN WRITE modes". PATTERN WRITE > mode is what you use for recording, so it would appear that what I want > to do can't be done. If you can't make the S50 slave off of Performer's MIDI clocks, then try the reverse. Use the S50's out to send MIDI clocks to the MAC so the S50 will control timing. Set up Dir-S to record an n+1 bar pattern, but don't start it, yet. (Record ready mode.) Set up Performer for external sync and prepare it to start at the beginning of the desired measure. Hopefully, when you start Dir-S, it will send out a CONTINUE and not a START message. This is crucial, otherwise Performer will start at measure 1 no matter what, foiling your project. If successful, stop Dir-S in the N+1st bar before the pattern starts again. This is to prevent the start of the pattern from recording data from the n+1st, n+2nd, n+3rd, etc. measures. Reduce the pattern size by one measure. Also, try recording at normal and at slow tempos and please report if there is any gain in accuracy at the slow tempo. Good luck. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com "Agapoe teen moosiki." From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 13:11:25 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 13:11:20 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <225>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:59:32 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88168-2>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:54:25 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, wbf@aloft.att.com Subject: Re: Headers + no text Message-Id: <94Sep22.125425edt.88168-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 12:54:16 -0400 Status: R | From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) | To: caron@biotech.lan.nrc.ca, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca | Subject: Re: Headers + no text | | | From: att!biotech.lan.nrc.ca!caron | | To: wbf@aloft | | Subject: Oh, Oh, something's wrong | | Date: Wed, 21 Sep 94 16:24:00 EDT | | | | Hi Bill, | | | | At least two sgroup members have emailed to me that they receive | | msg heads with nothing in them...apparently coming from me! One | | of them (J. Pater) was even pretty angry. Maybe it's just a | | coincidence, but it seems to have started when you posted my | | hacker querie to the list (which was nice of you). Are you aware | | of any problems? | | | | Antoine | | So sorry, Antoine. I'm not aware of any problems. I'm setting your | direct mail OK. But I, too, have seen empty hearers from the sgroup. | Ideas anybody? | | Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com It's just from one particular user, who's machine seems to be acting up and trashing some of his mail. Don't worry Antoine - Johan Pater wasn't replying to your mail or anything you did or sent - you just got a copy of his message because he sent a copy of it to the mailing list, and you're on the list. You should be able to tell when mail is addressed to the list, since the To: or Cc: headers should mention sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca in them, and should not mention your address explicitly (in most cases). This message is sent to you, and the list. So, sgroupers: don't worry about the empty messages from sjs - we're trying to track down where the problem is. John Sellens sgroup mailing list maintainer jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 14:17:08 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:16:57 -0400 Received: from research.att.com ([192.20.225.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <226>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 14:10:15 -0400 From: gjm@research.att.com Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 13:54:00 -0400 To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: *> NEED SOME INFO Message-Id: <94Sep22.141015edt.226@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: R The AWE32 uses the EMU8000 Multimedia Audio Processor, essentially the same technology as in the Proteus. The "SoundFont(TM)" format is used for the sound bank libraries, but I don't think any software for SoundFont manipulation is available yet. The MIDI in/out ports are separate, you can direct your output to different MIDI drivers (i.e., AWE or SoundBlaster MIDI port) using a sequencer package such as Cakewalk Professional for Windows. So the hardware is capable of simultaneous MIDI synthesis, MIDI I/O, and 16-bit audio I/O, as these functions are all supported by different pieces of hardware on the card. While integrated sequencer-recorders such as StudioVision, Digital Performer, and Deck II/Metro are available for the Mac, I don't think that there are any equivalents available for Windows right now. I work on a MIDI synthesizer for the AT&T DSP3210, the DSP chip in the AV Macs. Unfortunately, the DSP3210 MIDI synthesizer is only available for DOS platforms. -Gary From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 21 16:38:19 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:38:08 -0400 Received: from xmission.xmission.com ([198.60.22.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <215>; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:27:21 -0400 Received: from slc26.xmission.com (slc26.xmission.com [198.60.22.126]) by xmission.xmission.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA27231 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 1994 14:20:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199409212020.OAA27231@xmission.xmission.com> Sender: From: "The Alchemist" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 17:21:04 -0400 Subject: Oops! One more question (about S-50) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Status: RO How does the S-50 compare to other sampling keyboards on the market right now (Ensoniq EPS, E-mu EMAX II, Akai S1100, etc.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Alchemist Anthony Chavez alchemy@xmission.com Salt Lake Community College ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 18:32:20 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:32:12 -0400 Received: from eskimo.com ([204.122.16.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <227>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:20:46 -0400 Received: by eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA16140; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 15:20:16 -0700 From: subvert@eskimo.com (Mark Foster) Message-Id: <199409222220.AA16140@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: S-10 samples To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:20:15 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 584 Status: R > Hi there, > > I have this ancient S-10 and I'd like to know if there is > good sources for samples anywhere. I live in Finland and > the availability of Roland QDs is somewhat nonexistant here > for such an old product. Any hints appreciated ;). > I would also like to know this. Are there any S-10 owners out there who would like to trade samples over the Inet, or thru email? I never could get the s10recv/send program (the one in the archive) to work. I use the mdf to dump the samples thru sysex onto my PC. I have about 50 QD of samples to trade... Mark Foster From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 18:41:20 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:41:16 -0400 Received: from eskimo.com ([204.122.16.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <228>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:32:03 -0400 Received: by eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA16654; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 15:24:41 -0700 From: subvert@eskimo.com (Mark Foster) Message-Id: <199409222224.AA16654@eskimo.com> Subject: Roland resources... To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 18:24:39 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 288 Status: R This is a quick note to invite anyone who might be interested to visit my homepage...url http://www.eskimo.com/~subvert I put some links to the sgroup archive in there as well as the Roland faq, a list of manufacturer's address, and some other stuff you might like. Thanks, Mark Foster From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 22 19:10:01 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 19:09:55 -0400 Received: from stimpy.fp.co.nz ([202.12.105.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <229>; Thu, 22 Sep 1994 19:03:40 -0400 Received: from ren.UUCP by stimpy.fp.co.nz with UUCP id AA23147 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 11:02:57 +1200 Received: from minor.fp.co.nz by noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13364; Fri, 23 Sep 94 11:02:36 NZS Received: from The Bloated Log (pscsc1) by minor.fp.co.nz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24349; Fri, 23 Sep 94 11:02:42 NZS Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199409222220.AA16140@eskimo.com> References: Conversation <199409222220.AA16140@eskimo.com> with last message <199409222220.AA16140@eskimo.com> Priority: Normal To: Sampler Mime-Version: 1.0 From: Scott Cornwall Subject: S-220 Utilities Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 14:04:24 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: R > > I would also like to know this. Are there any S-10 owners out there who > would like to trade samples over the Inet, or thru email? I never could > get the s10recv/send program (the one in the archive) to work. I use the > mdf to dump the samples thru sysex onto my PC. I have about 50 QD of > samples to trade... > Mark Foster In a similar vein, I have an S-220 and would like to know what utilities are available to load/save samples with a PC. I think the S-220 is compatible with the S-10 but I am not sure. ( I only have 12 QDs of samples to trade ). ----------------------------------------------------- Scott Cornwall | Fisher & Paykel cornwall@minor (inhouse or) | PSC Section cornwall@fp.co.nz (internet)| P.O. Box 58-223 Fax +64 9 273 0619 | Greenmount Ph +64 9 273 0617 | Auckland or Ext 7917 | New Zealand ----------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 23 07:48:51 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 07:48:47 -0400 Received: from freenet3.scri.fsu.edu ([144.174.128.57]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <194>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 07:35:36 -0400 Received: by freenet3.scri.fsu.edu id AA09265 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Fri, 23 Sep 1994 07:24:50 -0400 From: Kevin Brislin Message-Id: <199409231124.AA09265@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Subject: S-220 samples To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 03:24:49 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3.1 PL11] Status: R I own a S-220 and used to have a S-10. It has been my experience that using sysex with both units was REALLY slow and I would lose information, like loop points, or reverse settings. Since I'm using SuperLibrarian on a Macintosh, I'm wondering if the PC owners are noticing the same thing. Comments? -- deep kimchee**tallahassee, fl Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) Released on CD - 'unplanned with explosion' alternative synth rock From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 23 12:09:02 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-3>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 12:08:49 -0400 Received: from mail.infinet.com ([198.30.154.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <196>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 11:59:45 -0400 Received: from david by mail.infinet.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qoD1x-000DUQC; Fri, 23 Sep 94 11:59 EDT Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.6v2); Fri, 23 Sep 94 11:56:21 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Fwd: ["Peter Heitzer" ]Re:Hacker mode Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 12:56:21 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Sender: david@david.roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-ID: <0105009A.agsn4b@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2 Status: R Didn't someone post Hacker mode info for the S-50 before? David david@roth-music.com ----- Forward of letter from "Peter Heitzer" : David, do you know about the hacker mode in the S-50 ? I got the service manual but did not find anything about in it. Thanks in advance, Peter ********************************************************** * Dipl.-Inform. Peter Heitzer * * Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Regensburg * * Universitaetsstrasse 31 * * 93053 Regensburg, Germany * * * * phone +49 941 943 4850, fax +49 941 943 4857 * * mail Peter.Heitzer@rz.uni-regensburg.de * ********************************************************** ----- End of forward. From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 23 17:01:05 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88173-3>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 17:00:52 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77547-4>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 17:00:40 -0400 Received: from itnvax ([130.186.34.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <197>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 16:49:38 -0400 Received: from itnvax.science.unitn.it by itnvax.science.unitn.it (PMDF #2809 ) id <01HHGUWN8Y80AJLH1Z@itnvax.science.unitn.it>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 22:50:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 18:50:34 -0400 From: "Stefano Oss - Dept.of Physics - 38050 POVO (TN) Italy" Subject: SC info needed To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01HHGUWN97VMAJLH1Z@itnvax.science.unitn.it> X-VMS-To: IN%"sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO Hallo: sorry for my (probably) definitely stupid question but: what the hell is the "serial" interface in a SC module? Which application can make use of it? Is it needed to have any special driver for windows??? thanks, Stefano From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 23 19:20:39 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88173-2>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 19:20:32 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77499-3>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 19:20:18 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <198>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 19:11:47 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id TAA03331; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 19:11:44 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199409232311.TAA03331@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: hacker mode To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 19:11:44 -0400 In-Reply-To: <0105009A.agsn4b@david.roth-music.com> from "David A. Roth" at Sep 23, 94 12:56:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 655 Status: RO > Didn't someone post Hacker mode info for the S-50 before? > > David > david@roth-music.com > > ----- Forward of letter from "Peter Heitzer" : > > > David, > do you know about the hacker mode in the S-50 ? I got the service manual but > did not find anything about in it. > > Thanks in advance, > Peter This info I believe is available at the sgroup ftp site: lotus.uwaterloo.ca along with the hacker mode for a few other Roland samplers. Don't be surprised if your connection is slooooow as a bottleneck is somewhere nearby the site in a router (or something). /jt From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 23 20:53:24 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-2>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 20:53:20 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <199>; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 20:44:57 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA16233 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 17:44:34 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA13166 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 1994 17:53:45 -0700 Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 20:53:45 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199409240053.RAA13166@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: hacker mode Status: RO Slow?????? That must be why I can't seem to connect to that new WWW roland page. -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From sgroup-owner@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Sep 23 16:38:30 1994 From: JT Subject: hacker mode To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <0105009A.agsn4b@david.roth-music.com> from "David A. Roth" at Sep 23, 94 12:56:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 655 X-Lines: 22 > Didn't someone post Hacker mode info for the S-50 before? > > David > david@roth-music.com > > ----- Forward of letter from "Peter Heitzer" : > > > David, > do you know about the hacker mode in the S-50 ? I got the service manual but > did not find anything about in it. > > Thanks in advance, > Peter This info I believe is available at the sgroup ftp site: lotus.uwaterloo.ca along with the hacker mode for a few other Roland samplers. Don't be surprised if your connection is slooooow as a bottleneck is somewhere nearby the site in a router (or something). /jt ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat Sep 24 06:31:25 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 06:31:12 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <201>; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 06:22:23 -0400 Received: (from khewss@localhost) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id SAA21013; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 18:21:41 +0800 Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 06:21:41 -0400 From: Khew Sin Sun Subject: Re: SC info needed To: "Stefano Oss - Dept.of Physics - 38050 POVO (TN) Italy" cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <01HHGUWN97VMAJLH1Z@itnvax.science.unitn.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO On Fri, 23 Sep 1994, Stefano Oss - Dept.of Physics - 38050 POVO (TN) Italy wrote: > Hallo: > is the "serial" interface in a SC module? Which application can make > use of it? Is it needed to have any special driver for windows??? > > thanks, Stefano The serial port allows computer serial ports to connect directly to the modules instead of thru a MIDI IN. Moreover,the SC module BECOMES a MIDI interface in itself to be connect to other modules. Hence,u don't have to get another MIDI interface to go with ur modules. Khew From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!SGROUP-owner Sat Sep 24 20:31:56 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-3>; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 20:31:47 -0400 Received: from MAX.UREGINA.CA ([142.3.100.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <185>; Sat, 24 Sep 1994 20:09:44 -0400 Received: from MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA by MAX.UREGINA.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4169; Sat, 24 Sep 94 18:09:41 CST Received: by UREGINA1 (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) id 8001; Sat, 24 Sep 94 18:09:40 CST Date: Sat, 24 Sep 1994 20:03:58 -0400 From: Rod Lemcke Subject: Director-S for $ale... - **cheap** - To: SGROUP@LOTUS.UWATERLOO.CA Message-Id: <94Sep24.200944edt.185@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO You know, I bought the Director-S when I bought my S-550 2 years ago, and until today, I darn near forgot that I even had it. Needless to say, I haven't used it EVER! It is stil in the original box with the disks, manuals, and the dongle key. 1st buyer to call gets it! That simple. $25(US) or $35(CAN). You can reach me voice at (306)-789-0961 or e-mail me at the following address weberloi@max.cc.uregina.ca Thanks... Rod L. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 03:04:08 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-1>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 03:04:03 -0400 Received: from ctech.ac.za ([155.238.4.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <216>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 02:43:48 -0400 Received: from norton.ctech.ac.za by ctech.ac.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qp9q3-0001ubC; Mon, 26 Sep 94 08:47 EET Received: from NORTON/PMAILQ by norton.ctech.ac.za (Mercury 1.1); Mon, 26 Sep 94 8:44:29 GMT-2 From: "Edwin Lloyd" Organization: Cape Technikon, South Africa To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 06:44:10 -0400 Subject: WAV Format Priority: normal X-mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-ID: <73A8C24E2F@norton.ctech.ac.za> Status: RO Hello all I want to know if the sample file you create on a sampler (S-50,S750 etc. ) is compatible with Creative's WAV Format? To what file extension does a sampler save files? Can I use a Roland S-series sample file on my AWE32? If not, will it work if I just import it as RAW data? Thanks Edwin Lloyd From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 05:11:50 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 05:11:40 -0400 Received: from ctech.ac.za ([155.238.4.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <197>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 04:54:35 -0400 Received: from norton.ctech.ac.za by ctech.ac.za with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qpBsx-0001udC; Mon, 26 Sep 94 10:58 EET Received: from NORTON/PMAILQ by norton.ctech.ac.za (Mercury 1.1); Mon, 26 Sep 94 10:55:37 GMT-2 From: "Edwin Lloyd" Organization: Cape Technikon, South Africa To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 08:55:27 -0400 Subject: WAV Samples Priority: normal X-mailer: PMail v3.0 (R1a) Message-ID: <75D8EB10CA@norton.ctech.ac.za> Status: RO Hi all Thanks for your reply on my previous mail. I need to know where I can find some good quality sound samples in WAV, VOC, or RAW format. I prefer 16-bit, 22kH (or higher). I need vocals from popular singers( without the background music; Just the clean vocals or backging vocals). Now, I have a very important question for all of you sampler and synth geniusses. I need to know where does Enigma get that wonderful Shakuacki sound... It is a Japanese flute... Enigma uses it in every song. What synthesizer(s) has that sound? If you have a sample of that sound, could someone send it to me... or tell me where I can get it? I can FTP, but I have no sites on these subjects. I would be so greatful if someone can help me. Best wishes Edwin Lloyd From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 05:29:33 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 05:29:26 -0400 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au ([192.189.54.33]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <198>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 05:13:08 -0400 Received: from kralizec.zeta.org.au by warrane.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA28343 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 26 Sep 1994 19:12:22 +1000 Received: (from carrot@localhost) by kralizec.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA21541; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 19:12:15 +1000 From: Nic Grant Message-Id: <199409260912.TAA21541@kralizec.zeta.org.au> Subject: Re: WAV Format To: ELLOYD@NORTON.CTECH.AC.ZA (Edwin Lloyd) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 05:12:13 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers) In-Reply-To: <73A8C24E2F@norton.ctech.ac.za> from "Edwin Lloyd" at Sep 26, 94 06:44:10 am X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j} I want to know if the sample file you create on a sampler (S-50,S750 => etc. ) is compatible with Creative's WAV Format? To what file => extension does a sampler save files? Can I use a Roland S-series => sample file on my AWE32? If not, will it work if I just import it as => RAW data? Unfortunately no, Roland formats are not WAV compatible. You probably need to get your samples to the PC using mdf (MIDI data filer) available somewhere on the net and then convert to WAV. It is possible to convert the raw data from the SDS (sample file standard, which is what MDF will retrieve fropm your sampler via MIDI), however I don't know of any programs which do this automatically for you. You may need to find out the format of both file types and write a little program to convert. I do this regularly, but I use a commercial product called SampleVision (only $US99.00 last time I looked) to suck your sample from the sampler via MIDI. This creates a samplevision file, .smp, which can be converted to WAV format using another utility called sox7dos, also available on the net. This doesn't always work, and I use a third public domain program called GoldWave to convert from soundblaster .voc format (also generatable by sox7dos) to wav format. So, in short, a) write a program (has someone else done this, or knows of a better method?) or b) Get sox7dos and GoldWave off the net, buy SampleVision and convert; Sampler to SampleVision, SampleVision to .VOC using sox7dos and then .VOC to .WAV using GoldWave. Hope this is of some help, Nic. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 11:26:30 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:26:23 -0400 Received: from netcom3.netcom.com ([192.100.81.103]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <185>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:15:06 -0400 Received: by netcom3.netcom.com (8.6.9/Netcom) id IAA06868; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 08:12:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:12:43 -0400 From: ribbit@netcom.com (Tony Mason) Message-Id: <199409261512.IAA06868@netcom3.netcom.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Looking for Roland S-50 Library Disks Status: R Hello, I am looking for the following disks from the S-50 library. I have about 50% of the collection, and would like to compelte it... I can trade for disks you need as well. If anyone has these, or can point me to where I can find them please let me know. I have samdisk and FTP and can get the files that way if need be, and will pay all postage/disk costs etc. I'm also interested in any stuff not in the Roland library - I have a few disks I've done myself (DDD-1 Drum Machine, etc) and can trade these as well. Disk Vol Name ---- --- ---- 1 1 Elec. Piano #1 3 1 Elec. Piano #2 8 1 Baritone/Alto Sax 10 2 Mallets #1 11 2 Harp #1 12 2 Woodwinds #2 14 2 String Variation #1 15 2 Midi Stack #1 16 2 Jungle Life (Nature sounds) 17 2 Air Disk #1 (Elec. Vocals) 18 2 Ethnic & Gongs #1 20 3 Oooze and Oz (Vocal/Choir sounds) 21 3 Brass #1 22 3 Balaphone (African) 23 3 Piano (New) 24 3 New Strings, E. Piano, Choir 25 3 Bass #2 29 3 Ethnic - Anklungs and Wind (African) 30 4 Nylon Guitar, Mandolin, Harp 32 4 20th Century Orchestra 34 4 Tamboura & Sitar #1 36 4 Orchestra & Tympani #1 38 4 Hi Strings #2 39 4 Anarchy time! 40 5 Metal & Glass FX 41 5 Assorted Ride Cymbals 42 5 Assorted Cymbals #1 43 5 Indian Percussion #1 46 5 Assorted Kicks #1 49 5 Indian Percussion #2 & Crotales 51 6 Orchestral Percussion #1 52 6 Midi Elec. Piano & Bass 53 6 Guitar & Stick 62 7 Japanese Percussion #1 63 7 Shamisen #1 65 7 Analog Percussion 68 7 FM Stuff 70 8 Big Time 71 8 Mute Trumpet 73 8 Koto #1 75 8 Hollywood FX 76 8 Funk Rock Set #1 Thanks, Tony From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 14:53:57 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:53:54 -0400 Received: from sqi.sqi.com ([192.135.191.112]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <185>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:43:45 -0400 Received: from mailhost.sqi.com (mailhost.sqi.com [163.242.144.93]) by sqi.sqi.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA03891 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:43:19 -0700 Received: from digger.sqi.com (digger.sqi.com [163.242.144.107]) by mailhost.sqi.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA13358 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:43:17 -0700 From: John Hall Received: (jhall@localhost) by digger.sqi.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA03405 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 11:43:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 14:43:15 -0400 Message-Id: <199409261843.LAA03405@digger.sqi.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Dijeridoo(sp) samples anyone? Status: R I've been looking for a good sample of a dijeridoo(sp). It's the Australian aboriginal (nose?) flute like instrument which is often used in movies based there. It has a low, gravelly sustained note, which can be breath controlled to make a rhythm, and the player can also produce higher notes and squeaks like a flute. The low sustained tone is the one I'm trying to find. John Hall ------------------ Network and Computer Support Group (x1777) ------------------ Siemens Medical Systems Inc. | phone: (206) 557-1697 |"You have to know who Ultrasound Group | switchbrd: (206) 392-9180 | to threaten to punish 22010 SE 51st Street | fax: (206) 557-1779 | and who to PROMISE to Issaquah, WA 98027-7002 | email: jhall@sqi.com | punish!" - Harry Ugol From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 18:28:57 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:28:47 -0400 Received: from husc7.harvard.edu ([128.103.25.7]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <187>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:20:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:21:31 -0400 From: henrik@husc.harvard.edu Message-Id: <9409262221.AA15580@husc7.harvard.edu> To: jhall@sqi.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Dijeridoo(sp) samples anyone? Status: R I have one for the S-10 we made off of Kate Bush's "The Big Sky (The MeteorologiKal Mix)". Will that help? It could probably be transferred to S-50... larry... From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 19:05:01 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 19:04:50 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <78074-4>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 19:04:37 -0400 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au ([192.189.54.33]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <189>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:57:29 -0400 Received: from kralizec.zeta.org.au by warrane.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA20032 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 27 Sep 1994 08:57:03 +1000 Received: (from blurk@localhost) by kralizec.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA17035 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 08:56:56 +1000 From: Bernie Maier Message-Id: <199409262256.IAA17035@kralizec.zeta.org.au> Subject: Re: S-10 samples To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:56:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199409222220.AA16140@eskimo.com> from "Mark Foster" at Sep 22, 94 06:20:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 664 Status: R > > I have this ancient S-10 and I'd like to know if there is > > good sources for samples anywhere. I live in Finland and > > I would also like to know this. Are there any S-10 owners out there who > would like to trade samples over the Inet, or thru email? I never could I'm an S-10 owner as well, and use mdf to do sysex dumps. I'd be happy to share (and enjoy!) what samples I have. However, I'm not intimately familiar with ftp, so if anyone is interested, either email me directly for samples or with instructions for putting them on an ftp site somewhere. -- Bernie Maier "So we joked about the TV set, calling it the eye of hell" - Tuxedomoon From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 19:35:02 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 19:34:57 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <190>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 19:27:57 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA09793 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:27:35 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA09594 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 16:37:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 19:37:19 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199409262337.QAA09594@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R Hello all, I am trying to contact Tone Genics. Anyone know how to reach them. they make an upgrade for the HD5-IF SCSI interface for the S-550. They used to be at 415-964-2560, but the number is now disconnected. Also, Anyone know of which HD's and/or CD-ROM's will work with the HD5-IF? Anyone have a CD-5 CD-ROM drive they want to sell? Thanks in advance -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 21:23:46 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:23:36 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <197>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:14:29 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA18028; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:14:08 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA10758; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:23:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:23:52 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199409270123.SAA10758@demon.corp.portal.com> To: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Tone Genics Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R I called Roland and talked to them. Any drive up to 80 MB will work if it has the older Sony mechanism in it. This includes CMS, MicroNet, Microtech, etc....but only up to 80 MB. The manual lists three specific models from Apple and CMS. The only Cd-ROM drive that they knew about was their own. The guy had tried many different drives and nothing ever worked. I happen to know that this Tone Genics outfit made an upgrade for the HD5-IF which included both a hardware upgrade as well as software which gave you support for Syquest 44 MB cartridges and other 3rd party CD-ROM drives. It also made some improvements to the OS so that loading would be faster from a CD-ROM than from the normal Roland drive. The guy (Jim Norman) ALSO said that for some strange reason he found that the Syquest-105 removeable drives DID work...but only formatted the discs up to 80 MB. But at least they worked. That sounds like the best option for HD, Get a Syquest-105 and a pile of cartidges and that would last until I can afford a better sampler anyway. Plus, I still am going to look for a CD-5 CD-ROM drive. Thanks again for your help. You can put this on the FTP site if you wish. -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Mon Sep 26 17:58:54 1994 From: JT Subject: Tone Genics To: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow) In-Reply-To: <199409262337.QAA09594@demon.corp.portal.com> from "Steve Schow" at Sep 26, 94 07:37:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1069 X-Lines: 25 > I am trying to contact Tone Genics. Anyone know how to reach them. they make > an upgrade for the HD5-IF SCSI interface for the S-550. They used to be > at 415-964-2560, but the number is now disconnected. Ah, what did this upgrade entail? > Anyone know of which HD's and/or CD-ROM's will work with the HD5-IF? I have the manual, but it is packed up right now. I can't get to it for about a week, unless I come across it before then. I'll probably send it to the whole list, but it would probably be a good idea to stick this on the ftp site (if the info isn't already there). But basically, the drives had to be 20meg, 40 meg, or 80 meg, and according to the manual, particular models. Mine happens to be one, and it is loud and warm (probably due to the older tech), but has worked flawlessly. If anybody has been able to get other manufacturers' drives to work, please tell us, as I'd hate to think that we are somewhat dependent on discontinued drives. If you don't hear from me in a week, please get back to me in email as I'll probably forget. JT ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 21:34:39 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:34:33 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <198>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:24:55 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id VAA21163; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:24:08 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199409270124.VAA21163@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: Tone Genics To: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:24:07 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <199409270123.SAA10758@demon.corp.portal.com> from "Steve Schow" at Sep 26, 94 06:23:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2664 Status: R > I called Roland and talked to them. Any drive up to 80 MB will work if it > has the older Sony mechanism in it. This includes CMS, MicroNet, Microtech, > etc....but only up to 80 MB. > > The manual lists three specific models from Apple and CMS. Yep... this sounds very familiar! :) [snip] > I happen to know that this > Tone Genics outfit made an upgrade for the HD5-IF which included both a > hardware upgrade as well as software which gave you support for Syquest 44 MB > cartridges and other 3rd party CD-ROM drives. It also made some improvements > to the OS so that loading would be faster from a CD-ROM than from the normal > Roland drive. This 44 meg syquest thing sounds REALLY nice! :) > The guy (Jim Norman) ALSO said that for some strange reason he found that > the Syquest-105 removeable drives DID work...but only formatted the discs up > to 80 MB. But at least they worked. That sounds like the best option for > HD, Get a Syquest-105 and a pile of cartidges and that would last until I > can afford a better sampler anyway. Ah, and this sounds even nicer! :) > Thanks again for your help. You can put this on the FTP site if you wish. I think I accidently forgot to include the list on this, so I'll cc: it there at least. Thanks for the reply, JT > >From jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Mon Sep 26 17:58:54 1994 > From: JT > Subject: Tone Genics > To: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow) [header partially snipped] > > I am trying to contact Tone Genics. Anyone know how to reach them. they make > > an upgrade for the HD5-IF SCSI interface for the S-550. They used to be > > at 415-964-2560, but the number is now disconnected. > > Ah, what did this upgrade entail? > > > > Anyone know of which HD's and/or CD-ROM's will work with the HD5-IF? > > I have the manual, but it is packed up right now. I can't get to it > for about a week, unless I come across it before then. I'll probably > send it to the whole list, but it would probably be a good idea to > stick this on the ftp site (if the info isn't already there). > > But basically, the drives had to be 20meg, 40 meg, or 80 meg, and > according to the manual, particular models. Mine happens to be one, > and it is loud and warm (probably due to the older tech), but has > worked flawlessly. If anybody has been able to get other > manufacturers' drives to work, please tell us, as I'd hate to think > that we are somewhat dependent on discontinued drives. > > If you don't hear from me in a week, please get back to me in email as > I'll probably forget. > > JT > > > ----- End Included Message ----- > > > From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Sep 27 04:01:55 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 04:01:52 -0400 Received: from taurus.oac.uci.edu ([128.200.80.23]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <199>; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 03:49:10 -0400 Received: by taurus.oac.uci.edu id AA14439 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Tue, 27 Sep 1994 00:43:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 03:43:56 -0400 From: Stephen Bang Subject: Re: WAV Samples To: Edwin Lloyd Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <75D8EB10CA@norton.ctech.ac.za> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R On Mon, 26 Sep 1994, Edwin Lloyd wrote: > Now, I have a very important question for all of you sampler and > synth geniusses. I need to know where does Enigma get that wonderful > Shakuacki sound... It is a Japanese flute... Enigma uses it in every > song. What synthesizer(s) has that sound? If you have a sample of > that sound, could someone send it to me... or tell me where I can get > it? well, a Roland D-50 has a decent Shakuhachi.. but the one enigma uses seems to be a really brilliant sounding sample, i'm not too well versed with the newer equipment, maybe someone else has a suggestion. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Sep 27 10:00:33 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:00:27 -0400 Received: from itnvax ([130.186.34.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <201>; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 09:53:10 -0400 Received: from itnvax.science.unitn.it by itnvax.science.unitn.it (PMDF #2809 ) id <01HHLZVWS9HYAJLKN2@itnvax.science.unitn.it>; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:54:02 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 10:54:02 -0400 From: "Stefano Oss - Dept.of Physics - 38050 POVO (TN) Italy" Subject: Serial to Midi and Sound Canvas To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01HHLZVWS9I0AJLKN2@itnvax.science.unitn.it> X-VMS-To: IN%"sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: R Hallo: I already posted a request of info some days ago on this same subject, but I'm afraid I've been quite misunderstood. My problem is: in windows (PC) is there any specific driver to use with the serial port of the Sound Canvas modules? It seems quite strange to me that in the manual there is no mention to this possibility ... Thanks everybody, Stefano. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Sep 27 23:18:30 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:18:23 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <202>; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:07:48 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id XAA14210; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:07:37 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199409280307.XAA14210@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Hard Drives for the S-550 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:07:36 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1115 Status: R When I was packing up tonight for my move, I came across the manual for the SCSI interface for the S-550. This info is taken from pg. 3, and acording to the recent posts, is not exactly true. According to someone who spoke with Roland, as long as the older drives have "the old Sony mechanism" they should work. I don't know exactly what that means. ;) Roland also said it works with some syquest removables, notably the 44Mb and 105mb removables, but the 105 will only act as an 80Mb drive... I have no idea about the 44 meg. I'd assume it would think it was a 40 meg, but I don't know. Anyways, here's the info: --------------------------------------------- (SCSI Specifications for the Apple Macintosh) Apple M-2620 (20Mb) M-2644 (40Mb) M-2688 (80Mb) CMS SD-20 (20Mb) SD-80 (80Mb) * No other hard disk can be used * The Apple hard disks are not provided with connecting cables. The Apple connecting cable (M0206) should be purchased 20Mb = 16 floppies 40Mb = 32 floppies 80Mb = 64 floppies ---------------------------------------------- Enjoy! JT From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 09:51:07 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-1>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 09:50:55 -0400 Received: from freenet3.scri.fsu.edu ([144.174.128.57]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <240>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 09:38:31 -0400 Received: by freenet3.scri.fsu.edu id AA12227 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Wed, 28 Sep 1994 06:55:07 -0400 From: Kevin Brislin Message-Id: <199409281055.AA12227@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Subject: Blank messages To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 02:55:07 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3.1 PL11] Status: R Just got ten blank messages from sjs@midiman.bstage. Is this a problem anyone else is experiencing? -- deep kimchee**tallahassee, fl Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) Released on CD - 'unplanned with explosion' alternative synth rock From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 10:43:49 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-1>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:43:40 -0400 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <239>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:32:52 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA14484; Wed, 28 Sep 94 10:27:31 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from dspsun by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA05368; Wed, 28 Sep 94 10:27:16 EDT Received: by dspsun (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA09876; Wed, 28 Sep 94 10:27:13 EDT Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:27:13 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9409281427.AA09876@dspsun> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: Blank messages Status: R > Just got ten blank messages from sjs@midiman.bstage. Is this a problem > anyone else is experiencing? > -- > deep kimchee**tallahassee, fl > Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) I've received over 20 since yesterday. Told John, so don't bother him. He's probably tearing his hair out about it as we speak (er type). Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 10:54:51 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:54:44 -0400 Received: from gw1.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <241>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:43:37 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA20149; Wed, 28 Sep 94 10:36:05 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from dspsun by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA05438; Wed, 28 Sep 94 10:37:03 EDT Received: by dspsun (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA09911; Wed, 28 Sep 94 10:37:00 EDT Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 10:37:00 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9409281437.AA09911@dspsun> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: Hard Drives for the S-550 Status: R Thanks, JT, for the scoop on what the HD5-IF manual says. I have two S-550s but no interfaces. But just out of curiosity, if they both had the SCSI interface and if I had multiple disks, a Syquest removable media, and a CDROM, could ALL of these be connected together as shared resources? Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com P. S. Whoever had Director-S for sale for $25 (US), please email me. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 11:32:07 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-1>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:31:55 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <242>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:16:20 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88166-2>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:16:02 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: brislink@freenet.scri.fsu.edu, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Blank messages Message-Id: <94Sep28.111602edt.88166-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:15:59 -0400 Status: R | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 09:51:07 1994 | From: Kevin Brislin | Subject: Blank messages | To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca | | | Just got ten blank messages from sjs@midiman.bstage. Is this a problem | anyone else is experiencing? | -- | deep kimchee**tallahassee, fl | Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) | Released on CD - 'unplanned with explosion' | alternative synth rock | Yes, it is a problem that everyone else on the list is experiencing, because one person has a bad mailer and doesn't seem interested in mailing to the correct address or figuring out what the problem is. I have strongly suggested to him that he cease and desist. John Sellens sgroup mailing list maintainer jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Let this be a reminder at all - send you subscription related requests to sgroup-request@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, and not to the list itself.) From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 13:08:13 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:08:07 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <78125-1>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:08:02 -0400 Received: from merlion.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <244>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:56:47 -0400 Received: (from khewss@localhost) by merlion.singnet.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9/CNS-3.5) id AAA20057; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 00:56:04 +0800 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:56:04 -0400 From: Khew Sin Sun Subject: Re: Blank messages To: Kevin Brislin cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <199409281055.AA12227@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Kevin Brislin wrote: > > Just got ten blank messages from sjs@midiman.bstage. Is this a problem > anyone else is experiencing? > -- Yes! I think all of us subscribed to sgroup are experiencing this. I think it's because sjs is experiencing difficulty subscribing and is trying this out with someone...I guess we bear with this until it drives us CRAZY!!! Then we flame!!!! (no just kidding :-)) Khew From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 13:29:27 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:29:14 -0400 Received: from sun2.mhs-relay.ac.uk ([128.86.8.35]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <245>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:17:13 -0400 Via: uk.ac.de-montfort; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:16:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 13:15:23 -0400 From: Andrew Hugill Subject: Re: Blank messages To: Kevin Brislin Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <199409281055.AA12227@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Yes, I've received the same ten blank messages over here in the UK. Rather a nuisance, what? On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Kevin Brislin wrote: > > Just got ten blank messages from sjs@midiman.bstage. Is this a problem > anyone else is experiencing? > -- > deep kimchee**tallahassee, fl > Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) > Released on CD - 'unplanned with explosion' > alternative synth rock From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 15:15:22 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:15:16 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <78100-2>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:15:10 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <185>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:04:23 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA09226 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:04:01 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA14744 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:04:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:04:24 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199409281904.MAA14744@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Hard Drives for the S-550 Status: R I'm the one who spoke with Roland on the Phone. The 44 MB syquest will ONLY work if you have a 3rd party ROM upgrade installed in your S-550 from a company called Tone Genics(which seems to be out of business). The Syquest apparantly just works as is, but formats to only 80 MB. The guy at Roland said that he had personally used LOTS of different drives with it, but it seemed to be the Older Sony mechanisms that worked. I also talked to another guy at Q-up art(they make cd-ROM discs) that said that a lot of older Cd-ROM drives would work too, not just the Roland CD-5 which is what they told me at Roland. cheers -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From sgroup-owner@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Sep 27 20:29:24 1994 From: JT Subject: Hard Drives for the S-550 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1115 X-Lines: 37 When I was packing up tonight for my move, I came across the manual for the SCSI interface for the S-550. This info is taken from pg. 3, and acording to the recent posts, is not exactly true. According to someone who spoke with Roland, as long as the older drives have "the old Sony mechanism" they should work. I don't know exactly what that means. ;) Roland also said it works with some syquest removables, notably the 44Mb and 105mb removables, but the 105 will only act as an 80Mb drive... I have no idea about the 44 meg. I'd assume it would think it was a 40 meg, but I don't know. Anyways, here's the info: --------------------------------------------- (SCSI Specifications for the Apple Macintosh) Apple M-2620 (20Mb) M-2644 (40Mb) M-2688 (80Mb) CMS SD-20 (20Mb) SD-80 (80Mb) * No other hard disk can be used * The Apple hard disks are not provided with connecting cables. The Apple connecting cable (M0206) should be purchased 20Mb = 16 floppies 40Mb = 32 floppies 80Mb = 64 floppies ---------------------------------------------- Enjoy! JT ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 15:41:39 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:41:27 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <187>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:29:39 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA11935 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:29:17 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA15041; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 12:29:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:29:40 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199409281929.MAA15041@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Blank messages Cc: rp@corp.portal.com Status: R John, This is not a very fair statement! First of all, I apologize to EVERYONE for all the crap mail this morning. I am trying very hard to figure out what the hell is wrong with my mailer. I don't appreciate all the crappy comments that all of my fellow sgroup people have been slinging at me this morning. There were a few polite ones, but for the most part, everyone who sent me flames sent me FLAMES! including John Sellens. I thought that I had my mailer fixed and that is why I tried it again. I have absolutely NO IDEA why it did what it did. Just so you all know.....I sent **ONE** subscribe message last night from sjs@midiman.bstage.com. It looks like that one got through(along with another one from a long time ago), ........in addition, it somehow replicated itself 5 guzzillion times as blank messages and kept sending them to sgroup(I got them all at work this morning too). I am sending this from work, that is why it won't be replicated 5 guzzillion times. As to why it replicated itself 5 guzzillion times, I have absolutely no idea, but I intend to throw out my software at home now. It is the NetManage Chameleon, in case anyone is interested. There must be something fluky about the way it was working with my SLIP account. Anyway, I am VERY sorry for all the junk mail this morning. I am sure that you enjoyed reading it about as much as I enjoyed reading all your flames cheers -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From sgroup-owner@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Sep 28 08:45:47 1994 From: "John M. Sellens" To: brislink@freenet.scri.fsu.edu, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Blank messages Content-Length: 922 X-Lines: 29 | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 09:51:07 1994 | From: Kevin Brislin | Subject: Blank messages | To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca | | | Just got ten blank messages from sjs@midiman.bstage. Is this a problem | anyone else is experiencing? | -- | deep kimchee**tallahassee, fl | Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) | Released on CD - 'unplanned with explosion' | alternative synth rock | Yes, it is a problem that everyone else on the list is experiencing, because one person has a bad mailer and doesn't seem interested in mailing to the correct address or figuring out what the problem is. I have strongly suggested to him that he cease and desist. John Sellens sgroup mailing list maintainer jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Let this be a reminder at all - send you subscription related requests to sgroup-request@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, and not to the list itself.) ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 15:54:14 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-1>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:54:04 -0400 Received: from SYSWRK.UCIS.DAL.CA ([129.173.2.108]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <189>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:40:52 -0400 Received: from AC.Dal.Ca by SYSWRK.UCIS.DAL.CA (PMDF V4.2-14 #2545) id <01HHNHG48ZUO005QD8@SYSWRK.UCIS.DAL.CA>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:24:26 -0400 Received: from AC.DAL.CA by AC.DAL.CA (PMDF V4.2-14 #2545) id <01HHNH23002C00AVQF@AC.DAL.CA>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 16:24:05 -0300 Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 15:24:05 -0400 From: Ray MacNeil Subject: Let's not overreact...8:) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01HHNH23002E00AVQF@AC.DAL.CA> X-VMS-To: IN%"sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: R Guys and Ladies, __________________________________________________________________ > Just got ten blank messages from sjs@midiman.bstage. Is this a problem > anyone else is experiencing? > -- > deep kimchee**tallahassee, fl > Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) I've received over 20 since yesterday. Told John, so don't bother him. He's probably tearing his hair out about it as we speak (er type). Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com ____________________________________________________________________ Both Bill and Kevin responded to the blank postings in the most appropriate (ie. calm) manner... what the he**'s goin' on with this group? We're supposed to blast anyone or anything that falls outside of our narrow set of operational procedures!! And you call yourself musicians! 8:) BTW, if you didn't notice, I'm sitting here waiting for a call (long distance), so I thought I'd answer my mail, and make a few jokes... the previous was a joke in case you didn't notice it. The last time this happened the guy got absolutely blasted for the blank postings! Oh, while I'm on the topic... isn't posting a message to ask someone to stop wasting 'bandwidth' kind of a techno-cyber futuristic contradiction in terms? Are you guys losing your edge or what! Come on! ROAST THE GUY!!!!! Anyhow... that's my 'intelligent' contribution to the SGROUP for this year. See you all in January. 8:) One more thing... if you want to roast ME.. phone me.. at least then I know you really mean it, (another joke), 8:). Ray MacNeil S-50 owner...don't laugh.................I said don't laugh! From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 18:34:40 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-2>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:34:34 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <190>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:23:22 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id SAA08632; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:23:15 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199409282223.SAA08632@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: Blank messages To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:23:15 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199409281929.MAA15041@demon.corp.portal.com> from "Steve Schow" at Sep 28, 94 03:29:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1076 Status: R > First of all, I apologize to EVERYONE for all the crap mail this morning. I > am trying very hard to figure out what the hell is wrong with my mailer. > I don't appreciate all the crappy comments that all of my fellow sgroup > people have been slinging at me this morning. There were a few polite ones, > but for the most part, everyone who sent me flames sent me FLAMES! including > John Sellens. > > I thought that I had my mailer fixed and that is why I tried it again. I > have absolutely NO IDEA why it did what it did. [snip] > Anyway, I am VERY sorry for all the junk mail this morning. I am sure that > you enjoyed reading it about as much as I enjoyed reading all your flames This isn't a flame, but it really isn't a good idea to send administrative mail to the entire list... especially when there are mail problems. Using a mailing list to test (not necessarily in your case) mail or send mail from a site you don't know is working properly or not, and hasn't worked properly in the past, is a good way to get flames, and should be expected. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 18:47:29 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-1>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:47:23 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <197>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:34:37 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id SAA09395; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:31:17 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199409282231.SAA09395@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: mail and drives To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:31:17 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 500 Status: R OK, before my previous mail gets misinterpreted, I'd like to emphasize I wasn't trying to flame anyone, but pointing something out. I know what it is like, as well as all of us ;), to get a bunch of blank messages when someone's mailer screws up, but I too have had hellish times with setting up mailers in the past as well. Steve does make valuable contributions to the list on info that many of us are interested in. Yes, his mailer screwed up or whatever. Let's get back to samplers... :) JT From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Sep 28 19:00:37 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-1>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 19:00:26 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <198>; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:47:23 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id SAA10017; Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:37:22 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199409282237.SAA10017@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: Re: FSOL/e-mail addresses/Scanner To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 18:37:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <199409281811.LAA15505@netcom8.netcom.com> from "Larry Spence" at Sep 28, 94 11:11:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 904 Status: R > You mean, just _getting caught_ listening to it can get you busted. %) um, yeah. ;) > Actually, the law which went into effect last April 26 made it illegal to > manufacture and/or import scanners which can be "easily modified" to pick > up cell calls. "Easily modified" is interpreted to mean "just snip a > diode," "pull a jumper" or something similar. This is basically what I meant, but I didn't realize it went through finally. > it's not difficult to use a converter to bring the 800 MHz band down into > a legal-to-receive range. Yep, pulls it down by subtracting about 400MHz, and cheap too. > Supposedly, the cellular phone lobbyists are the reason why there are > such nitpicky regulations for cellular monitoring but not for cordless. Yeah, some go so far as to tell customers that their calls are non-interceptable because they are digitally scrambled (as in, FM!). JT From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 29 08:46:40 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 08:46:38 -0400 Received: from gatekeeper.es.dupont.com ([192.26.233.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <201>; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 08:32:44 -0400 Received: by gatekeeper.es.dupont.com; id AA29338; Thu, 29 Sep 94 08:32:35 -0400 Received: from supph.wrk.dupont.com by wrksun1.wrk.dupont.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05487; Thu, 29 Sep 94 13:30:24 BST Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 08:30:24 -0400 Message-Id: <9409291230.AA05487@wrksun1.wrk.dupont.com> X-Sender: supph@wrksun1.wrk.dupont.com To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: supph@wrksun1.wrk.dupont.com (Paul Hannell) Subject: Roland JD800 X-Mailer: Status: R Hi, does anybody know of a list/newsgroup, or persons, who deals with the Roland JD800 ?? I recently got one & would really appreciate some ideas, advice on creating sounds, or even some sysex dumps of patches. Many thanks (I know this is not particularly relative to this group). Paul Hannell PC/LAN HelpDesk CONOCO UK UK: 44-0926-404742 Internet: supph@wrksun1.wrk.dupont.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 29 01:58:06 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 01:57:59 -0400 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu ([128.101.118.21]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <199>; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 01:47:41 -0400 Received: from dialup-1-33.gw.umn.edu by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Thu, 29 Sep 94 00:47:01 -0500 From: "Mark D. Henderson" Reply-To: "Mark D. Henderson" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Hard Drives for the S-550 Message-Id: <2e8a54d623a6002@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 01:47:17 -0400 Status: RO In message <9409281437.AA09911@dspsun> william.b.fox writes: > Thanks, JT, for the scoop on what the HD5-IF manual says. I have two S-550s > but no interfaces. But just out of curiosity, if they both had the SCSI > interface and if I had multiple disks, a Syquest removable media, and a > CDROM, could ALL of these be connected together as shared resources? > > Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com > > P. S. Whoever had Director-S for sale for $25 (US), please email me. You can chain drives and CD-ROMs together if you use the CD-5 system. It will allow you to access drives by their SCSI number. I don't think you can connect both of the S-550's as I don't think there is a way to change it's SCSI address number. The number of drives should only be limited be the number of SCSI id's available. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 29 10:31:47 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 10:31:41 -0400 Received: from canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca ([130.179.16.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <246>; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 10:20:51 -0400 Received: from [130.179.40.76] (matthew.dial.umanitoba.ca [130.179.40.76]) by canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA27649 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 09:20:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 10:20:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199409291420.JAA27649@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> X-Sender: matthew@mail.cc.umanitoba.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: matthew@cc.UManitoba.CA (Michael Matthews) Subject: Re: Blank messages Status: R Yes, I have also been receiving them. >Yes, I've received the same ten blank messages over here in the UK. Rather >a nuisance, what? > >On Wed, 28 Sep 1994, Kevin Brislin wrote: > >> >> Just got ten blank messages from sjs@midiman.bstage. Is this a problem >> anyone else is experiencing? >> -- >> deep kimchee**tallahassee, fl >> Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) >> Released on CD - 'unplanned with explosion' >> alternative synth rock From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Sep 29 15:54:47 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 15:54:38 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <247>; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 15:45:14 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA17108 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 12:44:57 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA29656 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 12:45:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 29 Sep 1994 15:45:20 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199409291945.MAA29656@demon.corp.portal.com> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Hard Drives for the S-550 Status: R But you might consider some kind of A/B switch between the two 550's. I don't know for sure if that would work, but it just might if you were careful to switch back forth at the appropriate time. Most importantaly, if you don't have SCSI interfaces yet, good luck finding one. -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From sgroup-owner@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Sep 28 23:05:03 1994 From: "Mark D. Henderson" Reply-To: "Mark D. Henderson" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Hard Drives for the S-550 Content-Length: 802 X-Lines: 18 In message <9409281437.AA09911@dspsun> william.b.fox writes: > Thanks, JT, for the scoop on what the HD5-IF manual says. I have two S-550s > but no interfaces. But just out of curiosity, if they both had the SCSI > interface and if I had multiple disks, a Syquest removable media, and a > CDROM, could ALL of these be connected together as shared resources? > > Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com > > P. S. Whoever had Director-S for sale for $25 (US), please email me. You can chain drives and CD-ROMs together if you use the CD-5 system. It will allow you to access drives by their SCSI number. I don't think you can connect both of the S-550's as I don't think there is a way to change it's SCSI address number. The number of drives should only be limited be the number of SCSI id's available. ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 30 00:04:32 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-1>; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 00:04:29 -0400 Received: from primail.pr.cyanamid.com ([141.173.131.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <249>; Thu, 29 Sep 1994 23:52:02 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com id AA780908042; Thu, 29 Sep 94 23:22:19 EST Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 00:22:19 -0400 From: Clive_Waugh_at_USVRMG01@internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com Message-Id: <9408297809.AA780908042@internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Roland S-550 Sampler Status: R Hi, My name is Clive Waugh, and I am a new subscriber to the List and also new to the Internet. I have 2 S-550 samplers with no interface. I am about to purchase the hard disk interface. I have the following questions and hope that some of you experts out there will try to help me. 1] Does anyone have any specific recommendations of hard drives that have worked ok with the HD5-IF interface. I am particularly interested in the older, very low-cost smaller SCSI drives. Must be IBM compatible. 2] I have seen some very low-cost single-speed CD-ROM drives advertised for between $50 - $100 US. I am thinking of purchasing one to work solely with the S-550's (not for Multimedia). Will they be compatible with the S-550?. Any suggestions?. Fell free to suggest any particular model that has worked for you. 3] Does anyone know of sources of 3rd party CD-ROM disks for the S-550, with samples ready to load and run?. 4] How about sources on the Internet of samples that will run on the S-550. Would appreciate a listing of the sites and how to get there. (Remember, I am a neophyte). 5] I also have the Korg Wavestation, Roland U220 and Roland Sound Canvas sound modules. Would love to get a listing of sites that have patches, pcm samples, editors etc. Thanks to you guys/girls for devoting time to share your knowledge and expertise and I hope to be able to reciprocate someday. Thanks Clive_Waugh_at_USVRMG01@internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com PS Would love to know where everyone is from. Just add your State or Country to your response. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 30 15:12:10 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 15:11:59 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <202>; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:59:13 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA03154; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 11:58:54 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA11922; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 11:59:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 14:59:18 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199409301859.LAA11922@demon.corp.portal.com> To: Clive_Waugh_at_USVRMG01@internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com Subject: Re: Roland S-550 Sampler Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R Clive, Welcome aboard and congradulations on your purchase of the S-550's. I wouldn't mind picking up a second one myself. They are GREAT sounding samplers and they have a GREAT library and since they aren't stereo(not easily anyway) and they aren't 16 bit and they only have 1.5 MB of memory......nobody seems to want them anymore. Too bad for them, great for us. Now about SCSI stuff.... Where did you find the HD5-IF first of all. many people on this list have been looking for one of those. I myself just stumbled across one this week, so I have been doing a fair amount of research to find CD-ROM's, drives, etc... According to the HD5-IF manual, there are 3 apple HD and 2 CMS (apple compatible) HD's that will work with the 550. According to Jim Norman at Roland Corp, you can use virtually any old HD that has the older Sony mechanisms in it. You can only format 40,60 and 80MB sizes. An 80 MB drive will hold exactly 64 floppy disks worth of sounds. It does store them in floppy disk sized areas of disk space. It ALSO turns out that you can use a Syquest 105 removeable cartridge drive, but you can only format up to 80MB on the cartridge. You cannot use the 44 or 80 Syquest drives unless you get a 3rd party ROM upgrade from a company called Tone Genics that I think is now out of business(I haven't been able to get a hold of them). Since the drives are SCSI, I don't think it really matters whether it is Apple or IBM compatible, as long as you get the right software drivers. I have seen small drives of this variety down at the second hand electronic shops for around $100 or a little less. That really isn't very cheap when you consider that you can get 500MB for $200-$300 now. I would reccomend checking around the net or with your friends and find someone who wants to bump up their Macinstosh(has the older Sony mechansims) from a measly 80 MB to a couple hundred and would practically give away their drive for $80 or so........ One little thing....if you plan on using more than one drive in a SCSI chain, then you will need the CD-5 software for the S-550. That is the System disk that is supplied with the Roland CD-5 CD-ROM drive. If you get a different drive, then you can download this disk from the sgroup ftp site. That version of the S-550 system is the newest one out and it supports multiple SCSI devices. (I myself am going to try to get the Syquest 105 even if it is a little pricy since I can use it for backing up my Mac/PC and umlimited sample storage, etc.) CD-ROM drives are not so easy. Jim Norman(Roland Corp) said that he has NEVER been able to get anything other than the Roland CD-5 to work with it. But then I talked to a guy at Q-Up Arts(They make/distribute cd sample libs), and he is actually the guy who created the Optical Media disc for the S-550 called "Universe of Sounds". Anyway, Optical Media used to make a drive that worked too and it turns out that (again) the key issue is the older Sony drive mechanisms....specifically the CDU-541 Sony mechanism. Any drive that has that mechanism will work. He named Sony's, Toshibas and others that he said would probably work. He said you MIGHT even be able to get a 2x speed drive to work. If you have a Fry's electronics around, try a 2x speed drive and if it doesn't work you always have 30 days to bring it back. If you want to get one of those older cheaper 1x drives for ~ $50, that should work fine as long as it has the older Sony mechanism in it. Roland still has the CD-5's in stock and they definately wouldn't mind moving them out of stock for ultra cheap, so if you don't mind slow CD-ROM speed, then you might just consider getting theirs, since it comes with the manual, the system software and............ the Entire Roland sample library on disc! You can also buy that disc for about $200 or so. As far as other 3rd party discs that are available, There are 3 that I know of. The Universe of Sounds(Optical Media), the Club-50(???) and a CD by a company called Outrigger Productions that I also think went out of business. The Optical Media disc is available all over the place, including at Roland. I have seen it for as low as $99. The Club-50 disc is also available at Q-up arts or Roland for around $200. I haven't found the Outrigger Productions CD yet, but I REALLY WANT it. They had this huge library of samples and I bought a few floppies from them over the years. They were always GREAT useable stuff. They came out with a CD-ROM with their entire library. Optical Media distributed it before but they don't deal with that stuff now. Now I can't find it anywhere. Outrigger Productions was based in Guam, so no phone number for me. I may try writing them. If you can find that CD, let me know. As far as the FTP site for this group, I'm sure everyone has told you by now that us.waterloo.ca is THE ftp site for S-series samplers. You can find PC software, samples(mostly just the Roland library), and archives of this list, along with a few other assorted goodies. As far as Korg and other lists, sorry, I can't help you there. Try the Newsgroups. Good luck. If you find ANYTHING else out that is different or additional to what I have just told you about this stuff, please send to me or the list. Thanks -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? sjs@midiman.bstage.com | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 30 17:42:21 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-2>; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:42:11 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <208>; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:30:25 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id RAA19018; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:30:11 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199409302130.RAA19018@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: S-550 HD To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 17:30:11 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 142 Status: R > You can only format 40,60 and 80MB sizes It's actually 20, 40, and 80MB. (20MB=16 floppies, 40MB=32 floppies, and 80MB=64 floppies.) JT From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Sep 30 22:16:11 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 22:16:04 -0400 Received: from primail.pr.cyanamid.com ([141.173.131.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <255>; Fri, 30 Sep 1994 22:05:36 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com id AA780988025; Fri, 30 Sep 94 21:47:56 EST Date: Fri, 30 Sep 1994 22:47:56 -0400 From: Clive_Waugh_at_USVRMG01@internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com Message-Id: <9408307809.AA780988025@internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com> To: sjs@corp.portal.com Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Roland S-550 Sampler Status: R Steve, Thanks for responding so quickly and in such detail. You obviously have been doing your homework. I really appreciate the technical details and the sources that you pointed me to. As per your question: >Where did you find the HD5-IF interface ....? I had not purchased it at the time of my writing. Since then, (tonight 9/30), I called the Company, in whose catalog I saw it advertised, and was disappointed to learn from them that the unit was discontinued and no longer available. I guess a lot of S-550 owners bought them up real quick. So it is back to scouring all over to see if a few may be left on some music store shelves. If I find any I will certainly inform you all. In any case let me give you the name and phone # of the catalog company so that you could have them send you a catalog. I found a lot of other goodies in it. I recently bought from them a part of the ROLAND SOUND LIBRARY on disks. Volumes L-501 thru L-504. Four boxes with twenty (20) disks in all. It helped to fill in a lot of the gaps I had in the RSL volumes. Best of all the blow out price is $13.95 for all 20 disks (total). The original list price was $260 U.S. AMERICAN MUSIC SUPPLY 600 INDUSTRIAL AVENUE PARAMUS, NJ 07652 1-800-458-4076 within U.S.A 1-612-796-2088 outside the U.S. In terms of ftp-ing to retrieve samples on the Internet, since I am new to the Int and I communicate to the Int via Lotus' CC:mail on our network and going through the company's INTERNETMAIL gateway, I am not sure whether I can ftp, seeing that I am not on the Int in real-time. (How would I be able to respond to logon prompts and cd to the directory, since I am not on real-time). Maybe I am wrong and thus would welcome any guidance you guys/girls can give me. Especially those of you who have experience connecting via CC:mail. In the meantime, I will try the ftp command anyway and see what error messages I get in response. Steve, thanks again, and I will keep you informed of anything I learn that may be helpful to you. Clive Clive_Waugh_at_USVRMG01@internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com