From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue May 3 09:53:45 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Tue, 3 May 1994 09:53:40 -0400 Received: from olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([129.189.134.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Tue, 3 May 1994 09:27:04 -0400 Received: by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA23590; Tue, 3 May 94 06:26:22 -0700 Received: from xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23511; Tue, 3 May 94 06:26:17 PDT Return-Path: Received: by xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA03040; Tue, 3 May 94 15:25:10 GMT Date: Tue, 3 May 1994 11:25:10 -0400 From: borzieri%xsft1@Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9405031425.AA03040@xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Amiga Midi Sample Wrench Demo ??? Status: R Is there a demo somewhere of this program by Dissidents ? Or, do u know their fax/address/phone number, program's features, latest release version/date ... any information will be very much appreciated Thanks, Ivan ============================================================================ = E-mail: borzieri@iconet.olivetti.com = Ex quite happy programmer, = = = now unhappy PCB Router. = = "Life is quite never as you would like." = = ============================================================================ = Commodore Amiga 1200, Microbotics XA1230 accelerator with 68030 @ 50 Mhz,= = no FPU, 2+4 Megs Ram, 120 Megs HD. = ============================================================================ = MIDI Setup: Roland D5 Synth, Roland S50 Sampler, Yamaha TX81Z Expander. = ============================================================================ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Apr 26 03:16:28 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 03:16:19 -0400 Received: from hearnvax.nic.surfnet.nl ([192.87.5.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 03:06:37 -0400 Received: from HUTSUR by HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl (PMDF V4.2-12 #3330) id <01HBMJ1Z82I8000099@HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl>; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 09:08:28 +0200 (MET-DST) Received: from cetis.hut.nl by HUT.NL (PMDF V4.2-14 #6495) id <01HBMJ3NP69S000V5X@HUT.NL>; Tue, 26 Apr 1994 09:09:47 GMT +0100 Received: from CETIS-FS/MAILQUEUE by cetis.hut.nl (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 26 Apr 94 9:05:08 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQUEUE by CETIS-FS (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 26 Apr 94 9:04:43 GMT+1 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 1994 05:04:01 -0400 From: Johan Pater Subject: Re: SampleVision and W30 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <2589CAF171A@cetis.hut.nl> Organization: Hogeschool Utrecht / Cetis X-Envelope-to: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal Status: RO > Does anyone know if Samplevision will work with a W30? I tried to contact the > sales office but they haven't gotten back with me yet. I've looked at the mid > i > tech specifications in the manual and I saw no evidence that appropriate > handshaking exists to dump sample data to and from the sampler. Does anyone > have any additional info? Hmm, i've got a W30 and thought also that there was no way to dump data from your computer to the W30. In the W30 there is also no function available (i thought so) to dump the samples/patches to your computer. So i believe that the only way to work with other samples is through samdisk so you can get samples/patches from the S50/S550 enz in your W30..... Hope to hear your reaction... Johan Pater ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cetis | | Centre for Educational Technology, Innovation and Stafftraining | | at the 'Hogeschool Utrecht' University for Vocational Education | ------------------------------------------------------------------- | INTERNET : JPATER@CETIS.HUT.NL | PO-BOX 573 | | FAX : (+31) (0)30-368180 | 3500 AN UTRECHT | | PHONE : (+31) (0)30-308117 | THE NETHERLANDS (EUROPE)| ------------------------------------------------------------------- From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 4 02:44:30 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:44:25 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <78208-3>; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:44:21 -0400 Received: from olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([129.189.134.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Wed, 4 May 1994 02:36:19 -0400 Received: by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA23554; Tue, 3 May 94 23:35:56 -0700 Received: from xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23521; Tue, 3 May 94 23:35:44 PDT Return-Path: Received: by xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA07096; Wed, 4 May 94 08:34:35 GMT Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 04:34:35 -0400 From: borzieri%xsft1@Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9405040734.AA07096@xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: To Benjamin Status: R I got some disks for the s50 off the ftp site, and after converting the files with samdisk, the s50 read the disks without problems. Then, I bought some samples cds, anf get my sounds from them. Bye, Ivan From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 4 03:22:19 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 4 May 1994 03:22:12 -0400 Received: from olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([129.189.134.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 4 May 1994 03:14:04 -0400 Received: by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA25019; Wed, 4 May 94 00:13:51 -0700 Received: from xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25016; Wed, 4 May 94 00:13:47 PDT Return-Path: Received: by xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA07771; Wed, 4 May 94 09:12:42 GMT Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 05:12:42 -0400 From: borzieri%xsft1@Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9405040812.AA07771@xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: What samdisk is Status: R Ben, samdisk is a public domain tool which let's u read/write roland samplers disks starting from/generating a file which is the disk's image. I think there should be a version for the mac too. Check the ftp site int the utilities directory to find out more. Bye, Ivan From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 4 07:35:14 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:35:04 -0400 Received: from freenet2.scri.fsu.edu ([144.174.128.48]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:27:32 -0400 Received: from freenet3.scri.fsu.edu by freenet2.scri.fsu.edu with SMTP id AA13730 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 4 May 1994 07:27:15 -0400 Received: by freenet3.scri.fsu.edu; id AA18956; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:17:09 -0400 From: Kevin Brislin Message-Id: <9405041117.AA18956@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Subject: S-50 purchase To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 03:17:09 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3.1 PL11] Status: R I have chance to pick up a used S-50 for around $1085 with a small library and a really small external monitor (7"). I don't think its a great purchase,but there is room for bargaining. Also, I've forgotten some of the specs of the S-50. It has 16 voice polyphony, but how many voices of multitimbrality? (I may have to trade in one of my synths if I go for this deal and I don't want to lose voices.) Info and opinions are greatly appreciated. -- deep kimchee**Rt. 3 Box 4060**Havana, FL 32333 Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) Latest release on CD - 'unplanned with explosion' From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 4 08:43:23 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 4 May 1994 08:43:19 -0400 Received: from sun2.mhs-relay.ac.uk ([128.86.8.35]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 4 May 1994 08:36:03 -0400 Via: uk.ac.exeter; Wed, 4 May 1994 13:35:05 +0100 Received: from cen.exeter.ac.uk by exub.exeter.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <02705-0@exub.exeter.ac.uk>; Wed, 4 May 1994 13:34:48 +0100 Received: from eng by cen; Wed, 4 May 94 13:34:45 +0100 Message-Id: <14908.9405041234@eng> Subject: Re: W30 Guitar type disks To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 08:34:39 -0400 From: Joseph Hornsby Reply-To: J.M.Hornsby@exeter.ac.uk Content-Type: text Content-Length: 743 Status: R Dear Osman, Sorry about this - I can't seem to mail this to you directly. (I get it returned). Anyway, here is the letter that I tried to send to you... > > Dear Osman, > > > Well, I did a test, and managed to mail a 1 Meg file to myself, so 500K > ones should be fine... > > I think that SDISK would be best if that is ok, and I have the uudecode > and pkzip (& unzip) proggies. > > Ta muchly, youv'e been a great help! &:) > Thanks, Joseph. -- Jo Hornsby |*| Sam: "Why me, Al?" Dept. of Engineering (Sparky) |*| Al: "Because you're a hero" Exeter Uni, UK |*| Sam: "Even heroes are human." Email: J.M.Hornsby@exeter.ac.uk |*| -- QL: Trilogy, Part 2 From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 4 09:14:55 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Wed, 4 May 1994 09:14:46 -0400 Received: from crux3.cit.cornell.edu ([128.253.232.63]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Wed, 4 May 1994 09:05:51 -0400 Received: by crux3.cit.cornell.edu (5.65/2.0) id AA21367; Wed, 4 May 1994 09:04:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 09:04:22 -0400 From: Mark G Simon Subject: Re: S-50 purchase To: Kevin Brislin Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <9405041117.AA18956@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R > I have chance to pick up a used S-50 for around $1085 with a small > library and a really small external monitor (7"). I don't think its a > great purchase,but there is room for bargaining. Also, I've forgotten > some of the specs of the S-50. It has 16 voice polyphony, but how many > voices of multitimbrality? (I may have to trade in one of my synths if > I go for this deal and I don't want to lose voices.) Info and opinions > are greatly appreciated. The S-50 lets you play up to 4 patches at once, but you have a great deal of flexibility as to what goes into those 4 patches. You can assign a sound to as few or as many notes on the keyboard as you need, and thus can split the keyboard to accomodate as many sounds as the S-50 can store in its memory at one time. I find there are very few instances where I need the entire range of the keyboard for one sound. The S-50 is not flexible at all in the way it uses its 16 note polyphony, though. You have to choose the number of voices that will be available to each patch. For instance you can distribute your polyphony 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 and each patch will be able to play 4 notes at once. If you want a five-note chord in any one patch you're out of luck. Or you can choose 8 + 4 + 2 + 2 and you can do your 5-note chord on the first patch and if you want more than 2 notes at a time out of the 3rd and 4th patch, you're out of luck once again. The one thing I should warn you about the S-50 is that its MIDI response time is exceedingly SLOOOOOOWWWWWW. Don't even think about doing controller 7 crescendos or diminuendos on anything other than sustained chords. Mark Simon mgs2@cornell.edu From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 4 10:01:36 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Wed, 4 May 1994 10:01:32 -0400 Received: from att-out.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Wed, 4 May 1994 09:48:55 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA27917; Wed, 4 May 94 09:48:16 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from bianca by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA21059; Wed, 4 May 94 09:48:01 EDT Received: by bianca (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA15690; Wed, 4 May 94 09:47:58 EDT Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 09:47:58 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9405041347.AA15690@bianca> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: S-50 Purchase Status: R Kevin Brislin: > I have [a] chance to pick up a used S-50 for around $1085 with a small > library and a really small external monitor (7"). I don't think its a > great purchase,but there is room for bargaining. Considering that I picked up an S-550 and a 13" color monitor for $900 almost two years ago, I'd advise you to either negotiate a lower price (which Rule of Acquisition is that?) or save your money for a module if you don't need the keyboard. What Mark Simon said about voice assignments is true also of the S-550. There are 16 different assignment types, including Last Note Priority and First Note Priority. I can only assume that the S-330 ans S-50 are the same. I won't venture a guess about the other Roland samplers. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 4 11:03:01 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-3>; Wed, 4 May 1994 11:02:53 -0400 Received: from netcom.com ([192.100.81.114]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <184>; Wed, 4 May 1994 10:54:01 -0400 Received: by netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id HAA00649; Wed, 4 May 1994 07:55:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 10:55:10 -0400 From: ribbit@netcom.com (Tony Mason) Message-Id: <199405041455.HAA00649@netcom.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: S-50 Status: R I don't think it's a very good deal at all. Be sure you talk him down a lot. I got the same setup essentially - 100 disks, monitor for $200.00. This was a once in a lifetime deal (no, it wasn't stolen, either!) but there's a lot of room in the middle there... From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 4 12:27:07 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Wed, 4 May 1994 12:27:00 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <78267-1>; Wed, 4 May 1994 12:26:50 -0400 Received: from freenet2.scri.fsu.edu ([144.174.128.48]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Wed, 4 May 1994 12:20:10 -0400 Received: by freenet2.scri.fsu.edu id AA16467 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Wed, 4 May 1994 12:19:58 -0400 From: Kevin Brislin Message-Id: <199405041619.AA16467@freenet2.scri.fsu.edu> Subject: No S-50 for me To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 12:19:57 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3.1 PL11] Status: R Based on the responses that i received, I've decided to let the S-50 go away. It just doesn't seem to be enough of a jump from my S-220. Thanks to all for their responses. Your input was greatly appreciated!! -- deep kimchee**Rt. 3 Box 4060**Havana, FL 32333 Kevin Brislin (now that they're here) Latest release on CD - 'unplanned with explosion' From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 4 12:47:32 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Wed, 4 May 1994 12:47:27 -0400 Received: from att-out.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 4 May 1994 12:41:23 -0400 Received: from aloft.UUCP by ig1.att.att.com id AA22044; Wed, 4 May 94 12:40:54 EDT From: wbf@aloft.att.com (william.b.fox) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Received: from bianca by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M3.1) id AA23098; Wed, 4 May 94 12:40:39 EDT Received: by bianca (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA16259; Wed, 4 May 94 12:40:36 EDT Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 12:40:36 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9405041640.AA16259@bianca> Original-To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: S-50 Purchase Status: R > Based on the responses that i received, I've decided to let the S-50 > go away. It just doesn't seem to be enough of a jump from my S-220. > Thanks to all for their responses. Your input was greatly appreciated!! Glad we could keep you from getting into deep kimchee! ;-) Bill From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu May 5 05:09:53 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Thu, 5 May 1994 05:09:44 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77211-3>; Thu, 5 May 1994 05:09:40 -0400 Received: from olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([129.189.134.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Thu, 5 May 1994 05:03:36 -0400 Received: by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA26916; Thu, 5 May 94 02:03:20 -0700 Received: from xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26913; Thu, 5 May 94 02:03:12 PDT Return-Path: Received: by xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA20895; Thu, 5 May 94 11:02:03 GMT Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 07:02:03 -0400 From: borzieri%xsft1@Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9405051002.AA20895@xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Sampling CD's Status: R I bought some audio sample cds (no direct sampler format), in the techno house genre. I ordered them from a company in the U.K. (cannot remember it's name now, and don't have any number here at work, sorry). The cds are high quality, and contain each something about 1500 samples. They range from vocals to drum loops, including basses, keyboards, drum kits (one disc has the complete tr808, for example), strings, strange sounds, etc. The cost was of about 50 Uk pounds for the X-Static Goldmine (which is a double CD with 3022 samples) and, generally, that's the medium price for that company's stuff. Tomorrow I'll give you their numbers, so that you can contact them. They offer a high quality service, and very fast response to questions/orders. Their catalogue is huge ! I think you should be able to find these cds in USA too, read keyboard to know more. Bye, Ivan ============================================================================ = E-mail: borzieri@iconet.olivetti.com = Ex quite happy programmer, = = = now unhappy PCB Router. = = "Life is quite never as you would like." = = ============================================================================ = Commodore Amiga 1200, Microbotics XA1230 accelerator with 68030 @ 50 Mhz,= = no FPU, 2+4 Megs Ram, 120 Megs HD. = ============================================================================ = MIDI Setup: Roland D5 Synth, Roland S50 Sampler, Yamaha TX81Z Expander. = ============================================================================ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!SGROUP-owner Thu May 5 05:32:26 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Thu, 5 May 1994 05:32:20 -0400 Received: from oxmail2.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.2.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Thu, 5 May 1994 05:26:12 -0400 Received: from vax.ox.ac.uk by oxmail2.ox.ac.uk. with SMTP (PP) id <15487-0@oxmail2.ox.ac.uk.>; Thu, 5 May 1994 10:23:12 +0100 Received: by vax.ox.ac.uk (MX V4.0-1 VAX) id 12; Thu, 05 May 1994 10:25:25 +0100 Sender: acnt@vax.ox.ac.uk Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 05:25:24 -0400 From: acnt@vax.ox.ac.uk To: SGROUP@LOTUS.UWATERLOO.CA Message-ID: <0097DF89.86A26A33.12@vax.ox.ac.uk> Subject: Roland 909 Status: R Hi, I'm looking for a Roland 909. If anyone has onre to sell, please mail me at this address: ACNT@VAX.OX.AC.UK Thanks. Andrew Thompson From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu May 5 05:46:17 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Thu, 5 May 1994 05:46:08 -0400 Received: from priamos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.15.11]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <180>; Thu, 5 May 1994 05:40:57 -0400 Received: by priamos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24004; Thu, 5 May 94 11:40:37 +0200 From: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de Posted-Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 11:40:34 +0200 (MESZ) Received-Date: Thu, 5 May 94 11:40:37 +0200 Message-Id: <9405050940.AA24004@priamos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Subject: Personal Info To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 05:40:34 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 625 Status: R Greetings to all sgroupers. I am a newbie to this group and here is my personal info: Name: Michael Lauer (mickey@hera.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de) Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany. Sampler Model: S-750 Computer: VLB 486DX/33 Software: Cubase for Windows Equipment: Roland S-750 Yamaha SY-99 Siel Opera-6 Ensoniq DP-4 Alesis 1622 Mixer Sony DAT etc. Instruments: Keyboards & Guitars Music: Don't know. Maybe psychedelic industrial electronix? But what is this? Well, just music! Comments: S-Series forever! (Any AKAI-Users here...?) ************ * MICKEY! * ************ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu May 5 06:57:24 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 5 May 1994 06:57:16 -0400 Received: from priamos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.15.11]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Thu, 5 May 1994 06:51:49 -0400 Received: by priamos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA24088; Thu, 5 May 94 12:51:39 +0200 From: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de Posted-Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 12:51:38 +0200 (MESZ) Received-Date: Thu, 5 May 94 12:51:39 +0200 Message-Id: <9405051051.AA24088@priamos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Subject: HACKERMODE To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 06:51:38 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 324 Status: R Hello sgroupers. I've been reading your mail from 1993 and everywhere (not really) some 'HACKERMODE' is mentioned. Can someone tell me what this is, and does this mode exist on S750, too? By the way, I got the sdisk utility and great, it works! Now we only need a device driver to read from SCSI... any idea? Bye, MICKEY. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu May 5 14:32:34 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Thu, 5 May 1994 14:32:20 -0400 Received: from lise1.lise.unit.no ([129.241.36.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Thu, 5 May 1994 14:23:27 -0400 Received: from lise12.lise.unit.no by lise1.lise.unit.no with SMTP id (5.65c8/pvv-4.2-hybrid for ); Thu, 5 May 1994 20:22:58 +0200 Received: from localhost by lise12.lise.unit.no ; Thu, 5 May 1994 20:22:56 +0200 Message-Id: <199405051822.AA27166@lise12.lise.unit.no> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: S550lib support for the W-30 and the S-50 soon available Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 14:22:55 -0400 From: jonjen@lise.unit.no X-Mts: smtp X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Status: R Hello everybody! Today, I sat down and included S-50 and W-30 support in my S550lib disk database system. Also, I included a W-30 sound data disk to S-550 sound data disk conversion routine, which converts a W-30 sound data disk to a S-550 sound data disk and adds S-550 operating system 1.15 to the disk. All sound, patch and tone data are maintained. I've converted some W-30 disks with it, and it works fine. To bad I didn't have it when I got a pile of W-30 disks a year ago and just had to format them all, not beeing able to read them... Anyway, I will upload the new version of S550lib as soon as possible. I hope jmsellens reads this: Could you please let me upload S550lib ver. 2.0 to lotus??? By the way, thanks to Paolo (MTVENTUR@icil64.cilea.it) for sending me a W-30 disk. Also, thanks to someone in Brazil (I just can't figure out where I put your mail...) Until next time, have a nice day! Greetings from Norway, Jon Jenssen ------------------------------------------- jonjen@lise.unit.no From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu May 5 15:23:09 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Thu, 5 May 1994 15:22:57 -0400 Received: from inthehat.engin.umich.edu ([141.212.64.29]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Thu, 5 May 1994 15:17:14 -0400 Received: (jkimble@localhost) by inthehat.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id PAA09406; Thu, 5 May 1994 15:16:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 15:16:34 -0400 From: john hamilton kimble Message-Id: <199405051916.PAA09406@inthehat.engin.umich.edu> To: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Personal Info Status: R Well I have been on this list for awhile, but I have never properly introduced myself: Name: John Kimble jkimble@engin.umich.edu Location: U of Michigan Ann Arbor MI USA Sampler: DJ-70 Computer: Amiga 1200 8ram/40hard Software: Soon Bars&Pipes 2.5 Equipment: Juno 106 Korg poly 61 DJ equipment Music: Techno and Industrial Thanks for the form Michael! jk From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri May 6 16:26:00 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Fri, 6 May 1994 16:25:55 -0400 Received: from apple.com ([130.43.2.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Fri, 6 May 1994 16:17:22 -0400 Received: by apple.com (5.61/8-Oct-1993-eef) id AA05270; Fri, 6 May 94 13:10:41 -0700 Received: from nlp4.UUCP by nli.com (4.1/nli.com(V1.0)) id AA07491; Fri, 6 May 94 12:41:41 PDT Received: from nlp16 (nlp16.ARPA) by nlp4 (4.1/nli(V1.0)) id AA11691; Fri, 6 May 94 12:13:17 PDT From: stan@nli.com (Stan Sawyer) Message-Id: <9405061913.AA11691@nlp4> Subject: S-550 CD-ROM To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 15:13:15 -0400 Cc: sgs@netcom.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1186 Status: RO I've seen an offer on an HD5-IF (CD-ROM and adapter for an S-550) with three CD's (they include the Roland library...I don't recall what the other two are). The guy wants $300. Is this a good price? Is the access (speed and volume) reasonable with this interface? Anyone have one? -------------=============<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>=============------------- sgs@nli.com \||/ "...he thought he caught sight of | @___oo something he recognized. It was his /\ /\ / (__,,,,| subconscious which told him this--that ) /^\) ^\/ _) infuriating part of a person's brain ) /^\/ _) which never responds to interrogation, ) _ / / _) merely gives little meaningful nudges /\ )/\/ || | )_) and then sits humming quietly to it- < > |(,,) )__) self, saying nothing." || / \)___)\ Douglas Adams | \____( )___) )___ \______(_______;;; __;;; -------------=============<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>=============------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat May 7 00:56:09 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Sat, 7 May 1994 00:55:59 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Sat, 7 May 1994 00:46:14 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88167-1>; Sat, 7 May 1994 00:46:10 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Jon Jenssen's S550lib ver. 2.0 now available on lotus Message-Id: <94May7.004610edt.88167-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 00:46:05 -0400 Status: R A new version of Jon's s550lib is now on lotus.uwaterloo.ca for your delight. Here's Jon's message: Thanks Jon! >From lise.unit.no!jonjen Fri May 6 16:36:41 1994 To: "John M. Sellens" Subject: S550lib ver. 2.0 uploaded to incoming From: jonjen@lise.unit.no Some important notes on S550lib ver. 2.0: ========================================= S550lib ver. 2.0 is by now available in the utilities directory at lotus. New features are: ================= - S-50 support - W-30 support - W-30 to S-550 sound disk conversion S-50 support ============ I have tested the S-50 support with a real S-50 sampler (and OS 2.0), and it seems to work OK. One minor problem is that the disk ID-number will not show completely on the display when loading a numbered disk. Only the last two digits of the number are shown. I don't think this should be a major problem to the S-50 users. Nothing wrong happens, it's just a visual effect. Also, the program writes down 32 tones to disk, as I discovered that the S-50 OS 2.0 actually did support 32 tones, not just 16 tones as the original OS had. What happens when used with pre-2.0-OS-disks I don't know, and I won't recommend using the database with pre-2.0 disks. But feel free to try it and see what happens... And let me know. W-30 support ============ I've had one W-30 disk during my W-30-support programming session. I don't know if the W-30 support works at all as I don't have access to a W-30 at the moment. All I know is that the fields of the disk I got are correctly updated, and that the disk ID-number overwrites a non-important string field at the beginning of the disk. If the ID-number are shown during loading I don't no. So I hope that you W-30 users out there tell me if it works and how the ID-number are shown on the display. W-30 to S-550 sound data disk conversion ======================================== This is a very handy function for us S-550 owners, wanting to take part in the W-30 disk library. The conversion routine works with the one W-30 disk I had, and it correctly installs a S-550 OS ver. 1.15. Please let me know if you experience any problems with it! Upgrading notice ================ If you are upgrading from ver. 1.xx, please read the following: How to upgrade: Unzip the s550lib.zip-file and copy the following files to your S550lib directory: - s550lib.exe - s550lib.hlp - s550sys.bin - readme.txt The database file should not be touched. (Unless you really want to delete it and loose all your data, but I don't think you want that...) The first time you run S550lib after upgrading, a database restructuring routine is run. You will be asked what kind of sampler you have. Click S-330 if you have a S-550, S-330 if you have a S-330, and if you have both, then lucky you... ;-) That should be all. Please let me know if there are any problems. Meanwhile, I'll work on ver. 3.0, with editing functions and more conversion routines... Have fun!!! Greetings from Norway, Jon Jenssen --------------------------------- jonjen@lise.unit.no From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun May 8 02:05:12 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-2>; Sun, 8 May 1994 02:05:07 -0400 Received: from pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu ([128.8.73.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <180>; Sun, 8 May 1994 01:42:43 -0400 Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu by pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu with SMTP id AA03437 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 8 May 1994 01:42:26 -0400 Received: by rac1.wam.umd.edu id AA28343 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for Roland Sampler Group ); Sun, 8 May 1994 01:42:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 01:42:24 -0400 From: Mark Bastian Subject: S-550 for sale ($600 negotiable) To: Roland Sampler Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R The sampler is in good condition. It has a never-used SCSI interface since I never bothered to buy a HD or CD-ROM. There is a problem with the mouse - only the buttons work, but everything else works perfectly. I also have a 12" Apple Composite monitor which makes it a joy to use (I hate the 32-char display). I have 50 or so sample disks from the Roland library, but I'm sure some of them have errors. Mark Bastian mbastian@wam.umd.edu (301) 604-3895 (Maryland) From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun May 8 17:49:39 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-3>; Sun, 8 May 1994 17:49:28 -0400 Received: from ucrengr.ucr.edu ([138.23.166.21]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <180>; Sun, 8 May 1994 17:43:25 -0400 Received: (from alexande@localhost) by ucrengr.ucr.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA09144 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Sun, 8 May 1994 14:42:43 -0700 From: steven alexander Message-Id: <199405082142.OAA09144@ucrengr.ucr.edu> Subject: S-550 Hacker Mode To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 17:42:42 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 224 Status: R Did anyone out there with the Hacker manual figure out how to load Midi Sample Dump files into the S-550? I remember there was talk that this was possible but maybe I missed the thread on how to do so. :^( cheers, S.A. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun May 8 17:59:39 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-3>; Sun, 8 May 1994 17:59:29 -0400 Received: from pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu ([128.8.73.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Sun, 8 May 1994 17:52:07 -0400 Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu by pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu with SMTP id AA28565 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 8 May 1994 17:51:52 -0400 Received: by rac1.wam.umd.edu id AA02461 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Sun, 8 May 1994 17:51:51 -0400 Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 17:51:50 -0400 From: Basil Jonathan Carter Sender: Basil Jonathan Carter Reply-To: Basil Jonathan Carter Subject: Sampler mailing To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: R Hello, I am the proud owner of a DJ-70 and would like any information regarding this device and other Roland Samplers. I also have a JV-30 if there is a similar "support system" for that device. My Postal Address is: Basil Carter 15 Plymouth Ave Maplewood, NJ 07040 Thank You, Basil J. Carter University of Maryland at College Park (301) 314-4844 From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon May 9 10:22:00 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 9 May 1994 10:21:49 -0400 Received: from hearnvax.nic.surfnet.nl ([192.87.5.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Mon, 9 May 1994 10:12:31 -0400 Received: from HUTSUR by HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl (PMDF V4.2-12 #3330) id <01HC4WEY3A74005AMA@HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl>; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:45:01 +0200 (MET-DST) Received: from cetis.hut.nl by HUT.NL (PMDF V4.2-14 #6495) id <01HC4WJR5Q3K001C64@HUT.NL>; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:48:52 GMT +0100 Received: from CETIS-FS/MAILQUEUE by cetis.hut.nl (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 9 May 94 12:42:03 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQUEUE by CETIS-FS (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 9 May 94 12:41:52 GMT+1 Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 08:41:03 -0400 From: Johan Pater Subject: How about some ..... To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <394443F620F@cetis.hut.nl> Organization: Hogeschool Utrecht / Cetis X-Envelope-to: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal Status: R I was wondering how to get some new songs/patches/samples/disks for my W-30 since the disks on the lotus side aren't that refreshing anymore. Anyone has some nice songs for me ?????????? Is there a way to give an account to the subscribers to the sgroup so that they can trade some stuff rather than putting it on a different side ???? Or just an ftp account which is able to go to the incoming directory and has write access there. Some time ago i got some mail saying that ROLAND intends to upload all of its patches to the the lotus site.. But that's still not the case so could anyone tell me more about that stuff ??? Thanks ..... -) JJ Johan Pater ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cetis | | Centre for Educational Technology, Innovation and Stafftraining | | at the 'Hogeschool Utrecht' University for Vocational Education | ------------------------------------------------------------------- | INTERNET : JPATER@CETIS.HUT.NL | PO-BOX 573 | | FAX : (+31) (0)30-368180 | 3500 AN UTRECHT | | PHONE : (+31) (0)30-308117 | THE NETHERLANDS (EUROPE)| ------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon May 9 12:54:27 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:54:22 -0400 Received: from apple.com ([130.43.2.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Mon, 9 May 1994 12:47:47 -0400 Received: by apple.com (5.61/8-Oct-1993-eef) id AA09522; Mon, 9 May 94 09:40:28 -0700 Received: from nlp4.UUCP by nli.com (4.1/nli.com(V1.0)) id AA10851; Mon, 9 May 94 09:13:43 PDT Received: from nlp16 (nlp16.ARPA) by nlp4 (4.1/nli(V1.0)) id AA15554; Mon, 9 May 94 09:01:10 PDT From: stan@nli.com (Stan Sawyer) Message-Id: <9405091601.AA15554@nlp4> Subject: Re: How about some ..... To: jpater@cetis.hut.nl (Johan Pater) Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 12:01:08 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <394443F620F@cetis.hut.nl> from "Johan Pater" at May 9, 94 08:41:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2437 Status: R Johan Pater once said: ... : Some time ago i got some mail saying that ROLAND intends to upload : all of its patches to the the lotus site.. But that's still not the : case so could anyone tell me more about that stuff ??? Roland continues to rely heavily on $compu$erve$. They seem to be negotiating with several services, however. I've seen discussions about providing the sample library for ftp on lotus, MIDIlink (some BBS that share QWK mail files and have a few boards that could handle the volume for the sample library) and compu$erve. I think that space issues on lotus have put it in third position as far as these three options go. This is just my impression, though. The other supposed issue is that one single support guy at Roland has to take all the (low density) S-50 and 550 disks and turn them into samdisk format and then ZIP them. I can get you his name if you're interested. Personally, I'd much rather see the Roland library on the internet than on closed (expensive) systems like MIDIlink and compu$erve. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon May 9 20:33:28 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Mon, 9 May 1994 20:33:17 -0400 Received: from pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu ([128.8.73.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Mon, 9 May 1994 20:26:15 -0400 Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu by pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu with SMTP id AA06923 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 9 May 1994 20:25:50 -0400 Received: by rac1.wam.umd.edu id AA10515 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for Roland Sampler Group ); Mon, 9 May 1994 20:25:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 20:25:43 -0400 From: Mark Bastian Subject: Roland S550 mouse replacement. To: Roland Sampler Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Has anyone had to replace the S-550 mouse? How much does it cost? Is it possible to use a PC mouse? Mark From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue May 10 03:31:53 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Tue, 10 May 1994 03:31:48 -0400 Received: from hearnvax.nic.surfnet.nl ([192.87.5.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Tue, 10 May 1994 03:19:00 -0400 Received: from HUTSUR by HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl (PMDF V4.2-12 #3330) id <01HC63K6XT28008X7L@HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl>; Tue, 10 May 1994 09:20:52 +0200 (MET-DST) Received: from cetis.hut.nl by HUT.NL (PMDF V4.2-14 #6495) id <01HC63P70W9S001E7G@HUT.NL>; Tue, 10 May 1994 09:24:53 GMT +0100 Received: from CETIS-FS/MAILQUEUE by cetis.hut.nl (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 10 May 94 9:17:55 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQUEUE by CETIS-FS (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 10 May 94 9:17:44 GMT+1 Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 05:17:33 -0400 From: Johan Pater Subject: Re: How about some ..... To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <3A8DDD4731F@cetis.hut.nl> Organization: Hogeschool Utrecht / Cetis X-Envelope-to: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal Status: R > Johan Pater once said: > ... > : Some time ago i got some mail saying that ROLAND intends to upload > : all of its patches to the the lotus site.. But that's still not the > : case so could anyone tell me more about that stuff ??? > > Roland continues to rely heavily on $compu$erve$. They seem to be > negotiating with several services, however. I've seen discussions > about providing the sample library for ftp on lotus, MIDIlink (some > BBS that share QWK mail files and have a few boards that could handle > the volume for the sample library) and compu$erve. How do you now all that stuff cause I haven't noticed it !! > I think that space issues on lotus have put it in third position > as far as these three options go. This is just my impression, though. So Lotus.. is no further option. > The other supposed issue is that one single support guy at Roland > has to take all the (low density) S-50 and 550 disks and turn them > into samdisk format and then ZIP them. I can get you his name if > you're interested. Well I thought that Roland had all of its disks on a HD/CD-ROM and than it would be easily to use samdisk & pkzip. Are the S-50 & S-550 & W-30 disks the same ??? His name or his E-mail adres ?? > Personally, I'd much rather see the Roland library on the internet than > on closed (expensive) systems like MIDIlink and compu$erve. Me too.. Thanx... Johan Pater ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cetis | | Centre for Educational Technology, Innovation and Stafftraining | | at the 'Hogeschool Utrecht' University for Vocational Education | ------------------------------------------------------------------- | INTERNET : JPATER@CETIS.HUT.NL | PO-BOX 573 | | FAX : (+31) (0)30-368180 | 3500 AN UTRECHT | | PHONE : (+31) (0)30-308117 | THE NETHERLANDS (EUROPE)| ------------------------------------------------------------------- From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue May 10 05:51:30 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Tue, 10 May 1994 05:51:26 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77893-3>; Tue, 10 May 1994 05:51:22 -0400 Received: from eryx.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.17.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Tue, 10 May 1994 05:38:05 -0400 Received: by eryx.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA08650; Tue, 10 May 94 11:37:49 +0200 From: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de Posted-Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 11:37:48 +0200 (MESZ) Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 94 11:37:49 +0200 Message-Id: <9405100937.AA08650@eryx.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Subject: SEVERAL THINGS AGAIN To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 05:37:48 -0400 Cc: mickey@eryx.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (Michael Lauer) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 3546 Status: R Greetings friends, romans and sgroupers! i) Several mails ago someone mentioned DIGITAL-I/O for S-750. What has become of it? Is it still a dream or has it become reality without me noticing it? ii) In 1993 someone posted a so-called s-group-users-directory and that he'd post the actual version, if someone wants it. So here I am. please do so. iii) to 'John M. Sellens': You wrote that you collect all the mails and put them into a monthly archive. Well, what happened with 9401-9404 ? Or do you proceed this task yearly (if yes, sorry for the stupid question) ? iv) It was very interesting to follow the discussion about S-550 etc. no longer being supported from ROLAND. Especially I like the idea to write improved operating systems for our gears! I think if I got the sources, I'd try this for S-750, too! Since we all know, which CPU our system has and since we all know that 80x86 assembler isn't that difficult, we just need to know the functionality of the co-processors (DSPs ? ) to let this cool thing happen! A beginning could be the disassembling of the OS-code. Even without the sources from ROLAND it MUST be possible to get some usable information. v) SUBJECT: HACKER MODE (the never ending story...) Bingo! There is a hacker mode on S-750/S-770! Following is a part of an ASCII-dump of OS V2.0 : ============================================================================= !! _3333333333__fnnc t xxxx- Hacker Menu_Tools_Analog Check_--------------_Yoko's Special_Ver. 2.03 00 Fri May 17 11:35:37 1991__ __ & & T d yyyy_& Hacker Tools _EE PROM Initialize _Wave Memory Check_ Special Thanks To - _Mr. Tommy Snyder _ Mr. Amin Bhatia _Mr. Adrian Scott _Mr. Eric Persing _Mr. Mark Tsuruta _M+2M__v ~O-!__   @ V z]_& Analog Check_D/A Bit Adjust_D/A Bit Test _ Voice Stop_D/A Bit No. _Play Adrs ________________________________________ ** A/D Converter _ Adjust **_VR1_VR2_ _-,-_-]K_0__x - ] ++++_& Hetoris_Sorry, HETORIS System was removed._See you next. Bye...._____ Pform PatchPartialSample__2345__* B B s + ]_ ============================================================================= Well, this sounds quit interesting! Has anybody discovered the magic keys do enter this mode??? vi) The new OS for S-7xx (version 2.20 or 2.21) I uploaded from UWaterloo seems to have a bug in the CONVERT-LOAD option! I tried to convert a S-550 disk after booting with OS 2.2x and it failed. Then I booted with OS 2.0 and everything seeemed to work fine. Is it a bug or a feature? ;-) Have any other S-7xx users expirienced this? And when I'm at this point, where are the differences (except CONVERT-LOAD no longer running ) and improvements since OS 2.0 ? vii) Has anyone heard the S-760 yet? I'd like to know if its TVF deal without the noisy feedback I hear from my S-750, if I have resonance greater than 30 - 40 ( dependent of the wave-material and the cutoff freq. ) tuned ? viii) Has someone ever got usable stuff from resampling using 'multiplying'? MICKEY. ========================================================================= = MICHAEL 'MICKEY' LAUER DON'T PANIC! = = mickey@rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de ~~~~~~~~~~~~ = = student at U FRANKFURT 42 = ========================================================================= From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue May 10 08:04:41 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Tue, 10 May 1994 08:04:35 -0400 Received: from hearnvax.nic.surfnet.nl ([192.87.5.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Tue, 10 May 1994 07:57:18 -0400 Received: from HUTSUR by HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl (PMDF V4.2-12 #3330) id <01HC69PC8ECW008X7L@HEARNVAX.nic.SURFnet.nl>; Tue, 10 May 1994 12:16:48 +0200 (MET-DST) Received: from cetis.hut.nl by HUT.NL (PMDF V4.2-14 #6495) id <01HC69UE4UY8001E9H@HUT.NL>; Tue, 10 May 1994 12:20:51 GMT +0100 Received: from CETIS-FS/MAILQUEUE by cetis.hut.nl (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 10 May 94 12:13:54 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQUEUE by CETIS-FS (Mercury 1.11); Tue, 10 May 94 12:13:49 GMT+1 Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 08:13:08 -0400 From: Johan Pater Subject: Re: SEVERAL THINGS AGAIN To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Message-id: <3ABCD351920@cetis.hut.nl> Organization: Hogeschool Utrecht / Cetis X-Envelope-to: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.1 (R1a) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Priority: normal Status: R Once Mickey Lauer wrote : > viii) Has someone ever got usable stuff from resampling using 'multiplying'? I don't have a Roland S-750 but do you mean just mixing two samples together ?? If so then this is called stacking and YES I have used it to create a super base drum !!! You asked for different things but one of the most important things is missing. What I wanna know is what the newest version of the OS is of the W-30/S-50/S-550/S-750 etc and what the familar bugs are !! So if anyone can answer to this (FAQ?) ????? Thanx, Johan Pater ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Cetis | | Centre for Educational Technology, Innovation and Stafftraining | | at the 'Hogeschool Utrecht' University for Vocational Education | ------------------------------------------------------------------- | INTERNET : JPATER@CETIS.HUT.NL | PO-BOX 573 | | FAX : (+31) (0)30-368180 | 3500 AN UTRECHT | | PHONE : (+31) (0)30-308117 | THE NETHERLANDS (EUROPE)| ------------------------------------------------------------------- From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue May 10 10:08:23 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-1>; Tue, 10 May 1994 10:08:19 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77991-2>; Tue, 10 May 1994 10:08:13 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Tue, 10 May 1994 09:59:48 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88167-2>; Tue, 10 May 1994 09:59:18 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: SEVERAL THINGS AGAIN Message-Id: <94May10.095918edt.88167-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 09:59:17 -0400 Status: R | From: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de | Subject: SEVERAL THINGS AGAIN | | iii) to 'John M. Sellens': You wrote that you collect all the mails and | put them into a monthly archive. Well, what happened with 9401-9404 ? Or | do you proceed this task yearly (if yes, sorry for the stupid question) ? Oh, I just fell behind a couple of months - they're there now, so read and enjoy. John jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue May 10 20:47:36 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Tue, 10 May 1994 20:47:32 -0400 Received: from leonis.nus.sg ([137.132.1.18]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Tue, 10 May 1994 20:41:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (law23718@localhost) by leonis.nus.sg (8.6.4/8.6.4/CNS-2.0) id IAA27862; Wed, 11 May 1994 08:40:28 +0800 Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 20:35:27 -0400 From: Lim Chin Ping Suzanne Subject: Re: Personal Info To: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <9405050940.AA24004@priamos.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Hi, I've been on this list for a couple of years, I'm not sure if I've introduced myself before: > Name: Benjamin Ang > Location: Singapore > > Sampler Model: S-330, with a borrowed W-30 > Computer: 386DX/33 > Software: C akewalk for Windows > Equipment: Roland S-330, W-30 Korg Poly 800 Korg X-3 R Roland MC202 on loan, non-MIDI > > Instruments: Keyboards & Guitars MUsic : Techno Industrial Rave House Ambient Trance Rap Pop > > > thanks to mickey for the format! ---------------------- law23718@leonis.nus.sg National University of Singapore From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 11 11:41:10 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-3>; Wed, 11 May 1994 11:40:56 -0400 Received: from ENH.NIST.GOV ([129.6.16.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Wed, 11 May 1994 11:33:19 -0400 Received: from sugoi.nist.gov by ENH.NIST.GOV (PMDF V4.2-13 #4653) id <01HC7MG5EW0W000PEN@ENH.NIST.GOV>; Wed, 11 May 1994 11:31:59 EDT Received: from mozart.nist.gov by sugoi.nist.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02603; Wed, 11 May 94 11:32:17 EST Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 12:32:17 -0400 From: CLOUGH@ENH.NIST.GOV (Roger Clough) Subject: SampleVision + price reductions in audio sample CD's To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Errors-to: john@sugoi.nist.gov Reply-to: CLOUGH@ENH.NIST.GOV Message-id: <9405111632.AA02603@sugoi.nist.gov> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO 1) SAMPLEVISION. I got my program running for reading/writing Samplevision files on a DOS hard disk, so I can do anything I want to a sound clip. Samplevision can be gotten at a street price of $85 and works with DOS. I sent the dumpread program to sgroup-owner to upload but have gotten no response. One other person expressed interest in a Samplevision library for the group. Anybody else interested? 2) SAMPLE CD's. Being rather busy, I haven't gotten around to trying to finding sound files on the internet to load onto my sampler so I gave up and decided to get my own audio sample CD. It turns out that now is a very good time to buy these at some places because many of the audio CD people are switching to CD-ROM sample disks, which are formatted to be read in digital form by specific samplers and contain all of the loop information, etc. I called Valhala and found out that they are selling Sonic Image audio sample CD's at closeout prices ($35 as I remember, as opposed to the regular price of $59). Others are going for $45. If anybody's interested, you can reach Valhala by phone at (313-548-9360) or write them at Box 20157-KB, Ferndale Michigan 48220 USA for a price list. I wouldn't wait as they are selling out pretty fast. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri May 13 18:36:29 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88173-1>; Fri, 13 May 1994 18:36:20 -0400 Received: from amalfi.trl.OZ.AU ([137.147.99.99]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Fri, 13 May 1994 18:24:56 -0400 Received: from otcgpo.isg.otc.com.au ([134.159.16.100]) by amalfi.trl.OZ.AU (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA27660 for ; Sat, 14 May 1994 08:20:57 +1000 Received: by otcgpo.isg.otc.com.au (4.1/OTC_GPO.2.2) id AA05354; Fri, 13 May 94 22:25:01 GMT Received: from nmspad1.pad.otc.com.au(134.159.8.1) by otcgpo via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma005352; Fri May 13 22:24:44 1994 Received: from ra.pad.otc.com.au by nmspad1.pad.otc.com.au (4.1/OTC_Gateway2.0) id AA26383; Fri, 13 May 94 22:24:23 GMT Received: from nmstms1.pad.otc.com.au by ra.pad.otc.com.au (4.1/OTC_Peer_1.7) id AA16106; Fri, 13 May 94 22:24:22 GMT Received: by nmstms1.pad.otc.com.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10943; Fri, 13 May 94 22:24:03 GMT Message-Id: <9405132224.AA10943@nmstms1.pad.otc.com.au> Subject: Re: SEVERAL THINGS AGAIN To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers) Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 04:24:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <9405100937.AA08650@eryx.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>; from "mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de" at May 10, 94 5:37 am From: nic@nms.otc.com.au (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j} i) Several mails ago someone mentioned DIGITAL-I/O for S-750. => What has become of it? Is it still a dream or has it become reality => without me noticing it? Roland Australia claim it doesn't exist. However I have been given a number of some technical guru who thinks it can be done. I will try and ring him next week and post the results. => ii) In 1993 someone posted a so-called s-group-users-directory and => that he'd post the actual version, if someone wants it. So here I am. => please do so. Yes, yes. Should be finished by the weekend. I had more entries than anticipated and am slowly adding them to the directory. Thanks to all those who sent me their info in the right format. As for the rest! :-) Regards, Nic. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 18 09:53:57 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:53:49 -0400 Received: from amazonas.cic.unb.br ([164.41.14.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Wed, 18 May 1994 09:42:24 -0400 Received: by amazonas.cic.unb.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04985; Wed, 18 May 94 10:43:06 EST Date: Wed, 18 May 1994 11:43:06 -0400 From: zeppe@cic.unb.br (Zeppe) Message-Id: <9405181343.AA04985@amazonas.cic.unb.br> To: jonjen@lise.unit.no Subject: Re: S550lib Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Status: R Hello Jon I'm having trouble using the S550lib last version with my W-30 disks. I can not write to disk the modifications made by rhe program. When I save to disk it stops to work in the w-30 and appears a message of disk load error. I think that theree is a check sum somewhere in the disk and when we modify the contents the check sum reports a error message. A frien of mine tried to modify the initaial message of the operational system disk and had similar problems in trying to modify externally the contents of the disk. Greetings Osman Giuseppe Zeppe@cic.unb.br Brasilia, Brasil From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu May 19 04:58:01 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 19 May 1994 04:57:52 -0400 Received: from relay1.pipex.net ([158.43.128.4]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Thu, 19 May 1994 04:49:44 -0400 Received: from zebedee.netmgrs.co.uk by relay1.pipex.net with SMTP (PP) id <07247-0@relay1.pipex.net>; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:49:03 +0100 Received: by netmgrs.co.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14475; Thu, 19 May 94 09:48:38 BST Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 04:48:38 -0400 From: sjr@netmgrs.co.uk (Stephen Rodgers) Message-Id: <9405190848.AA14475@netmgrs.co.uk> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: D-50 / RAP-10 Status: R I have a Roland D-50 keyboard which I bought in 1987. I have been out of contact as regards sound technology for about 5 years. I am thinking about buying the new RAP-10 card for my PC (486 DX2 20MB RAM). I have read a couple of reviews, but I have a couple of questions: - can I sample sounds from normal CD's and play them back at different notes using the D-50 as a dumb keyboard via MIDI? - The D-50 allowed me to create combination sounds from PCM sources held on the D-50 and wave generated synth sounds does the RAP-10 provide this generation of synth sound, I already know it has 128 PCM sounds? - If I buy a Windows 3.1 sequencer like Cubase, will I be able to play many different sounds from the card simultaneously i.e. a drum track sound, a sampled sound track etc. Is this what polyphonic means ? - I notice on the ftp server, there are sampled sounds like EKSTS-50.SDK, is the RAP-10 backwardly compatible, enabling me to use such sounds ? many thanks, Steve (STEVE J RODGERS) From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu May 19 10:00:59 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-2>; Thu, 19 May 1994 10:00:42 -0400 Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA ([132.204.2.103]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Thu, 19 May 1994 09:52:30 -0400 Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA01792 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca); Thu, 19 May 1994 09:51:40 -0400 Received: from mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA06352; Thu, 19 May 94 09:51:40 -0400 Received: by mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA (940406.SGI/5.17) id AA20620; Thu, 19 May 94 09:51:39 -0400 From: stjacque@ERE.UMontreal.CA (St-Jacques Marc) Message-Id: <9405191351.AA20620@mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: Help with DOS-based zip prgms To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca (sgroup ) Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 09:51:38 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 629 Status: R Hi there. Sorry for the non-s-50 Queries but this is my last hope. I'm looking for DOS based - compress and uncompress (yielding .Z files). - archive and unarchive (yielding .tar files). - the same (yielding .shar files). - anything else (yielding .whateveryouwant :-) Repond by e-mail, please. Thanks. Marc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc St-Jacques I'm doing my thesis! Honest! stjacque@ere.Umontreal.ca Why does no one believe me? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu May 19 10:32:13 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Thu, 19 May 1994 10:31:57 -0400 Received: from lise1.lise.unit.no ([129.241.36.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Thu, 19 May 1994 10:26:12 -0400 Received: from lise22.lise.unit.no by lise1.lise.unit.no with SMTP id (5.65c8/pvv-4.2-hybrid for ); Thu, 19 May 1994 16:24:34 +0200 Received: from localhost by lise22.lise.unit.no ; Thu, 19 May 1994 16:23:02 +0200 Message-Id: <199405191423.AA26374@lise22.lise.unit.no> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: WARNING: W-30 users: S550lib bug (and how to fix it...) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 May 94 10:43:06 EST." <9405181343.AA04985@amazonas.cic.unb.br> Date: Thu, 19 May 1994 10:22:31 -0400 From: jonjen@lise.unit.no X-Mts: smtp X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Status: R Hello everybody! Finally, a W-30 user told me how the S550lib program worked with a W-30 workstation. Unfortunatly, there was a rather not-so-pleasent bug. The W-30 seems to have a checksum hanging around somewhere in it's disk system area. When updating the disk, S550lib does not update the checksum. In fact, I don't know how the checksum is computed and where it is located. If you have tried to update a disk, and think you have lost the information on that disk because you couldn't read it with your W-30, that is wrong. The data is still there and here is what you do to ghet them back: Convert the W-30 disk to a S-550 disk by using the W-30 to S-550 convert command in S550lib, load the data into your W-30 from the S-550 disk, and that's it and that's that. Any songdata on disk are discarded, too bad :-( Please, if you have any information regarding the W-30 disk format and how to compute the checksum, if any, please let me know, and I'll fix the S550lib program to correctly update it. I'll also see if I can borrow a W-30 from somewhere to check the problem myself, and to see if I can find a solution. Though W-30 workstations are rather rare over here. Until next time, have a nice day! Greetings from Norway, Jon Jenssen ---------------------------------------- jonjen@lise.unit.no From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun May 22 17:22:05 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-2>; Sun, 22 May 1994 17:21:59 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77264-3>; Sun, 22 May 1994 17:21:53 -0400 Received: from siri1.siri.unit.no ([129.241.20.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Sun, 22 May 1994 17:10:41 -0400 Received: from siri7.siri.unit.no by siri1.siri.unit.no with SMTP id (5.65+/1.2); Sun, 22 May 94 23:08:55 +0200 From: Thomas Hammer Received: by siri7.siri.unit.no ; Sun, 22 May 94 23:08:43 +0200 Message-Id: <9405222108.AA25117@siri7.siri.unit.no> Subject: Re: Help with DOS-based zip prgms To: stjacque@ERE.UMontreal.CA (St-Jacques Marc) Date: Sun, 22 May 1994 17:08:42 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <9405191351.AA20620@mistral.ERE.UMontreal.CA> from "St-Jacques Marc" at May 19, 94 09:51:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1000 Status: R > > Hi there. Sorry for the non-s-50 Queries but this is my last hope. > > I'm looking for DOS based > > - compress and uncompress (yielding .Z files). > - archive and unarchive (yielding .tar files). > - the same (yielding .shar files). > - anything else (yielding .whateveryouwant :-) > > Marc. > Most decent ftp-sites has what you requests. (ever tried archie ?) You can get it from our local server: ugle.unit.no I do not remember the excact name of the directory, but it's something like: /pub/msdos/archives.. There is a director tree-listing in the root directory. In case you're not familiar with ftp: ftp ugle unit.no login: ftp password: Marc bin - binary transfer mode dir get tree-file - Don't remember it's name. cd /pub/msdos/archives mget * bye You'll find most archivers etc. there, including .Z .gz .tar .uu and all the dos-ones (.arj .zip .zoo .lha .arc ......) Hope this'll help. :=) Thomas Hammer thammer@siri.unit.no Orakel. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 25 03:35:24 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88173-3>; Wed, 25 May 1994 03:35:19 -0400 Received: from pan.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de ([141.2.15.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Wed, 25 May 1994 03:25:41 -0400 Received: by pan.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA20446; Wed, 25 May 94 09:25:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 03:25:18 -0400 From: mickey@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de Posted-Date: Wed, 25 May 94 09:25:18 +0200 Received-Date: Wed, 25 May 94 09:25:18 +0200 Message-Id: <9405250725.AA20446@pan.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Subject: S-772T - TURBO KIT Status: R Hello sgroupers! ( Hey Marc, what do you mean with MEMO-FORMAT ? ) Finally they made it! My service station here in Germany upgraded my S-750 with the S-772T (Turbo Kit). For those who don't know, here the contents of this kit: CPU (N80C196KB16/16Mhz) x1 EPROM (for S-770) x1 EPROM (for S-750) x1 SYSTEM DISK Ver 2.20 x1 (not really 2.20, it just has this label!) CRYSTAL (16Mhz) x1 ADDED PART x1 INSULATING TAPE (20mm*45mm) x1 TURBO KIT LABEL x2 MODIFICATION NOTES x1 USING MANUAL x1 Altogether I paid 370 DM (sorry, don't know in Dollars or Pounds or Yen or whatever) for the kit and 150 DM for the service. The so-called USING MANUAL was a real joke! Here's a copy for you: =========================================================================== * * * * * S-770/750 TURBO KIT * * * * * * * * * * USING MANUAL * * * * * The TURBO KIT enables S-770 of S-750 to work with 16Mhz clock instead of 12 Mhz. With this KIT S-770 or S-750 will be upgrade. * * * * * USING * * * * * Using the Product with TURBO KIT, should use SYSTEM DISK Version 2.20 or upper Version. If another system is used, the Product won't function correctly. * * * * * NOTES * * * * * If the Product had something wrong, stop using immediately, and call Roland Servics Station of the authorized Roland distributor modified it. =========================================================================== OK, after I turned on my system, the first thing I noticed was a new ROM-message saying: 'Roland S-750 Digital Sampler (Turbo)' instead of 'Roland S-750 Digital Sampler'. (Really important information, won't be impressed if this was the only modification in the EPROM... Oh no...) After I booted the system, I played around with it. No new functions, no enhanced features. Well, I didn't really expect them, but... The display was a bit faster, but not that much that I thought! If you go to EDIT SAMPLE PATCHWORK GRAPHICS, and switch to filled waveform, it still takes a bit time, if it's ready. Now I don't think it's a problem of the CPU-speed, I think it's the algorithm, which is so slow!!! The timing is really better now, but still there are sometimes drop-outs, if you play in the EDIT-pages. The midi-message seems to be recognized (the indicator flashes), but the sample is not started. What really impressed me, was SCSI-loading. This is really FAST now! BUT STILL NO MULTIPLE FILE-SELECTION! :-( HEY ROLAND, IT CAN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT! GIMME THE SOURCE AND I DO IT FOR YA! ;-) Altogether, though it isn't a BMW 850i now, it's really faster than the old system and I would recommend it for each S-7xx user! It makes even more fun to play with the GUI now. But I'm still longing for a DIGITAL I/O-upgrade!! Any news, sgroupers? By the way, I sdisk'ed the system disk and it was V2.21. Ok, I thought, I got this version already from sgroup. But when I ascii-dumped it, (don't say: "Hey, mickey, do you ascii-dump your breakfast before eating it?!") I noticed that there must have been a 'silent' update from V2.21 to V2.21! The version I got from sgroup-archive had the following ascii-dump inside: ... HardDisk Sys Ver 2.17 ... The version shipped with Turbo Kit said: ... HardDisk Sys Ver 2.18d ... Although it is not much from 2.17 to 2.18d I think it could be a bugfix and I should FTP it to the archive. Can I get write-permission, John? Well, is Jim Norman still on the list? Hey Jim, can you tell us what's up with this different OS-versions? And what's with the key to hacker mode (still inside OS V2.21 / HD 2.18d !) And who is Yoko? Sorry to bother you with this questions, but the Roland information support is really poor!! Besides, I think that within the power of S-7xx there are a lot more things possible than are provided by OS V2.21 ... Nobody here with interest in patching the OS? Bye for now, MICKEY! (mickey@rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de) P.S. My local Roland-dealer said that the S-760 is not a best-seller (in fact he didn't sell just one...). I think this is really disappointing, because if Roland-Samplers don't have success, maybe Roland won't continue to create samplers... :-( But otherwise, I don't have enough bucks (well, Deutschmark...) to buy one now... :-< What do your stores say about S-760 ? From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed May 25 19:07:33 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Wed, 25 May 1994 19:07:32 -0400 Received: from pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu ([128.8.73.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Wed, 25 May 1994 19:01:41 -0400 Received: from rac1.wam.umd.edu by pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu with SMTP id AA26561 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 25 May 1994 19:01:31 -0400 Received: by rac1.wam.umd.edu id AA27223 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for Roland Sampler Group ); Wed, 25 May 1994 19:01:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 19:01:27 -0400 From: Mark Bastian Subject: Roland support To: Roland Sampler Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Whew!! Well, I'm finally getting somewhere. I've been having mouse trouble on my S-550 for a long time. The buttons worked, but the cursor would roll to the bottom right. I called Roland and asked what was wrong and they gave me an RA# and told me to send it in. A couple of weeks later I called to see what was going on and after being put on hold indefinately and calling back a couple of times I got Ed Koker in the service dept. Ed told me that they don't fix mice, they just replace them (so why was I supposed to send it in in the first place??) He then told me exactly what the problem was (not the mouse, but a fuse resistor had blown because some other mouse was plugged into the unit - I DID try another mouse once some time back, but AFTER the MU-1 stopped working...) and sent my mouse back. He then sent me to parts - where I needed to know the part NUMBER. They sent me back to service, but Ed had left his desk. Later, I talked to him again and he went to the parts department and got me the part number and component description... What a hassle!!! The moral of this story is - don't let your Roland equipment break! Has anyone else had trouble with Roland service? Anyway, I just needed to whine about this ordeal. I feel better now. Thanks for listening. Mark From math.uwaterloo.ca!lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon May 30 06:21:05 1994 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88184-1>; Mon, 30 May 1994 06:20:59 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <77084-4>; Mon, 30 May 1994 06:20:54 -0400 Received: from warrane.connect.com.au ([192.189.54.33]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <114>; Mon, 30 May 1994 06:12:47 -0400 Received: from kralizec.zeta.org.au by warrane.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA10384 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 30 May 1994 20:11:30 +1000 Received: (from carrot@localhost) by kralizec.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA12769 for sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca; Mon, 30 May 1994 20:12:27 +1000 From: Nic Grant Message-Id: <199405301012.UAA12769@kralizec.zeta.org.au> Subject: sgroup directory To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers) Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 06:12:24 -0400 X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j}; Mon, 30 May 1994 11:15:08 -0400 Received: from amazonas.cic.unb.br ([164.41.14.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Mon, 30 May 1994 11:09:29 -0400 Received: by amazonas.cic.unb.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10547; Mon, 30 May 94 09:11:44 EST Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 10:11:44 -0400 From: zeppe@cic.unb.br (Zeppe) Message-Id: <9405301211.AA10547@amazonas.cic.unb.br> To: carrot@kralizec.zeta.org.au Subject: Re: sgroup directory Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R Hello Nic Very thanks for the work you had in making the sgorup listing. It will be very useful. Unfortunatelly it's not complete because not all of us replied your invitation to send you our data. I hope next time you can compile a more complete list. Greetings Osman