From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 1 03:58:40 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-1>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 03:58:35 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 03:58:33 -0400 Received: from olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([129.189.134.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <56>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 03:55:28 -0400 Received: by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA25127; Fri, 1 Oct 93 00:55:08 -0700 Received: from xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25124; Fri, 1 Oct 93 00:55:05 PDT Return-Path: Received: by xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA17152; Fri, 1 Oct 93 08:54:27 GMT From: grillo%xsft1@Olivetti.Com (Savino Grillo) Message-Id: <9310010754.AA17152@xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> Subject: Re: CD ROM v1.02 To: wilkie@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (scott dhomas trenn - Scott Wilkie) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 04:54:25 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: ; from "scott dhomas trenn - Scott Wilkie" at Sep 30, 93 6:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] X: ______________________________________________________________________ Status: RO > > > I anxiously downloaded the supposedly NEW OS and UTILITY disks for the S550. > Unfortunatly, they are far from new... the CDROM latest is v1.02 from 1991 > not the v1.00 from 1988... and v1.15 of the other OS and utilities are the > latest but have been around a long time, as well. > > Just incase anyone thought these are new, they are not. > > **************************************************************************** > ** ** > * scott dhomas trenn : Fredericton, NB - CANADA * > * scott wilkie Internet: wilkie@jupiter.sun.csd.ca * > ** ** > **************************************************************************** > > > So, why don't you share with us the latest CD-ROM OS ? From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 1 09:04:33 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-2>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:04:24 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 09:04:10 -0400 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <158>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:00:57 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com Received: from rosalind by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M2.1) id AA02619; Fri, 1 Oct 93 08:59:06 EDT Received: by rosalind (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-020793) id AA19570; Fri, 1 Oct 93 08:59:03 EDT Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 08:59:03 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9310011259.AA19570@rosalind> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: CD ROM v1.02 Status: RO scott dhomas trenn said: > I anxiously downloaded the supposedly NEW OS and UTILITY disks for the S550. > Unfortunatly, they are far from new... the CDROM latest is v1.02 from 1991 > not the v1.00 from 1988... and v1.15 of the other OS and utilities are the > latest but have been around a long time, as well. > Just incase anyone thought these are new, they are not. When I asked Roland for the latest, they they sent me v1.13. That was earlier THIS YEAR. So although v1.15 might not be BRANS NEW, it is newer than what I've got. I, too, downloaded the OSs Savino supplied but haven'y had any studio time to try them out, yet. Bill Fox P. S. George - I've been trying to reach you at George_Demarest@univel.COM but haven't gotten a response. Is that a bad address or have you been tied up with other matters? From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 1 09:33:13 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88150-3>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:33:04 -0400 Received: from relay1.UU.NET ([192.48.96.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:29:29 -0400 Received: from spool.uu.net (via LOCALHOST) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA14341; Fri, 1 Oct 93 09:29:18 -0400 Received: from krfiny.UUCP by uucp5.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 092739.8396; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:27:39 EDT Received: by krfiny.krf.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.30) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 09:23 EDT Received: by rnd220 (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.1) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 09:28 EDT Message-Id: From: davidw%rnd220@uunet.UU.NET (UNIXMAN) Subject: new CD-ROM O/S To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Group) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:28:24 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO Just to be annoying, would somebody upload the LATEST CD-ROM O/S v 1.02 to lotus ?? I just downloaded the latest S-550 O/S v 1.15 from lotus and am now using it. I wish I knew what was fixed in it or what bugs were there before in 1.13. I have been trying out things in it, but I haven't noticed anything new or different. Does anyobody know of anything that works now that didn't before in 1.15 ?? Hacker mode seems to be the same as far as I can tell. Roland seems to have the same accurate O/S bug report and patch-update realase system that Hewlett-Packard does. (Just being a wise guy) :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------- David J. Wilson Knight-Ridder, Inc. 75 Wall St. NYC, NY 10005 UNIX/Network Data Communications phone: 212-504-7845 MS-EE student EE-CS Dept. internet: uunet!krfiny!davidw Polytechnic University NY davidw@krf.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 1 09:47:38 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-1>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:47:27 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 09:47:19 -0400 Received: from relay1.UU.NET ([192.48.96.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <160>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:44:11 -0400 Received: from spool.uu.net (via LOCALHOST) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA20597; Fri, 1 Oct 93 09:43:52 -0400 Received: from krfiny.UUCP by uucp5.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 094114.9508; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:41:14 EDT Received: by krfiny.krf.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.30) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 09:36 EDT Received: by rnd220 (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.1) id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 09:42 EDT Message-Id: From: davidw%rnd220@uunet.UU.NET (UNIXMAN) Subject: Sample Dump Standard To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Group) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 09:42:15 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO Just a note to S770 or S750 series owners, you guys CAN do Midi Sample Dump Standard. Recently, I uploaded a couple of DOS files called SDSTOWAV.EXE and WAVTOSDS.EXE or something like that. They are supposed to convert .WAV files to MIDI sample dump standard files and vice-versa. I have an S-550 so I haven't been able to truly test the programs. They came from the Kurzweil K2000 ftp site and from CompuServe, so I guess they are somewhat useful. You S-7xx series owners should be able to use them to download your 16 bit samples to a Midi SDS file and convert them to .WAV files for your SoundBlaster or whatever. The reverse of this is also possible. You just need a program on your PC or whatever to send/receive MIDI sysex data, no big deal. Would any S770 owner try this and post the results ?? I would be interested to know if it works OK -------------------------------------------------------------------- David J. Wilson Knight-Ridder, Inc. 75 Wall St. NYC, NY 10005 UNIX/Network Data Communications phone: 212-504-7845 MS-EE student EE-CS Dept. internet: uunet!krfiny!davidw Polytechnic University NY davidw@krf.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 1 20:05:41 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-3>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 20:05:36 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 1 Oct 93 20:05:34 -0400 Received: from unb.ca ([131.202.3.20]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Fri, 1 Oct 1993 19:58:36 -0400 Received: from jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca by unb.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1-930526-09:20) id AA08166; Fri, 1 Oct 93 20:58:16 ADT Received: by jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1-930823-11:20) id AA25031; Fri, 1 Oct 93 20:58:14 ADT Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1993 19:56:43 -0400 From: Scott Wilkie External Subject: Uploading FTP To: SGroup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO So what is the latest scoop on uploading to uwaterloo? Can we do it, yet or what? I'll gladly upload the OS1.02, if we can upload... Wait I recall a message about mailing the files to someone... hmmm... anyone got that address handy? If not, I'll look for the message again... dhomas. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 4 03:47:03 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-1>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 03:46:52 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 03:46:49 -0400 Received: from olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([129.189.134.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 03:29:39 -0400 Received: by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA16535; Mon, 4 Oct 93 00:29:14 -0700 Received: from xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM by olivea.ATC.Olivetti.Com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16532; Mon, 4 Oct 93 00:29:11 PDT Return-Path: Received: by xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA07759; Mon, 4 Oct 93 08:28:32 GMT From: grillo%xsft1@Olivetti.Com (Savino Grillo) Message-Id: <9310040728.AA07759@xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> Subject: Re: Uploading FTP To: wilkie@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Scott Wilkie External) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 04:28:30 -0400 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: ; from "Scott Wilkie External" at Oct 1, 93 7:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] X: ______________________________________________________________________ Status: RO > > > So what is the latest scoop on uploading to uwaterloo? Can we do it, yet > or what? I'll gladly upload the OS1.02, if we can upload... Wait I > recall a message about mailing the files to someone... hmmm... anyone got > that address handy? If not, I'll look for the message again... > > dhomas. > > > To upload the 1.15 I E-mailed to ask for write permission on the "incoming" directory on lotus. Cheers Savino From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 4 10:44:46 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-3>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 10:44:40 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 10:39:30 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88159-3>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 10:39:01 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca, wilkie@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca Subject: Re: Uploading FTP Message-Id: <93Oct4.103901edt.88159-3@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 10:38:54 -0400 Status: R | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 1 20:05:41 1993 | From: Scott Wilkie External | Subject: Uploading FTP | To: SGroup | Mime-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII | | | So what is the latest scoop on uploading to uwaterloo? Can we do it, yet | or what? I'll gladly upload the OS1.02, if we can upload... Wait I | recall a message about mailing the files to someone... hmmm... anyone got | that address handy? If not, I'll look for the message again... | | dhomas. | | | | Anyone wanting to contribute anything to the archives should contact me. John Sellens sgroup mailing list and ftp archive maintainer jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 4 13:55:57 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-2>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 13:55:54 -0400 Received: from relay2.UU.NET ([192.48.96.7]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 13:51:30 -0400 Received: from spool.uu.net (via LOCALHOST) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA20704; Mon, 4 Oct 93 13:51:17 -0400 Received: from krfiny.UUCP by uucp5.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 134936.11413; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 13:49:36 EDT Received: by krfiny.krf.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.30) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 13:45 EDT Received: by rnd220 (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.1) id ; Mon, 4 Oct 93 13:50 EDT Message-Id: From: davidw%rnd220@uunet.UU.NET (UNIXMAN) Subject: Roland DDR-30 elect. drums To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Group) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 13:50:49 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: R I just picked up a rack-mount Roland DDR-30 Digital Drum synthesizer for $50. It is a digital drum synthesizer with kick, snare, and 4 tom channels with 6 individual outs, 6 XLR trigger pad-inputs, and MIDI in, out, thru. It has a RAM cartridge slot, and alpha Q dial. Unfortunately, it didn't have the manual, but I am working on getting one. The sounds are pretty cool, it has all the Simmons-type electronic drum sounds as well as some other new electronic drum sounds. It has envelope, pitch, decay, pitch bend, pitch bend decay, EQ/filter, Gate, Gate decay, etc. voice editing parameters. Does anyone else have or know any thing about one of these units ?? It sounds really cool, especially through the QuadraVerb effects, very Thomas Dolby-ish. I suppose I will probably sample all the sounds and put 'em on an S-550 disk and upload to lotus. -------------------------------------------------------------------- David J. Wilson Knight-Ridder, Inc. 75 Wall St. NYC, NY 10005 UNIX/Network Data Communications phone: 212-504-7845 MS-EE student EE-CS Dept. internet: uunet!krfiny!davidw Polytechnic University NY davidw@krf.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 4 15:03:19 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 15:03:11 -0400 Received: from relay1.UU.NET ([192.48.96.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <158>; Mon, 4 Oct 1993 14:58:28 -0400 Received: from tinton.ccur.com (via tinton.tinton.ccur.com) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA18287; Mon, 4 Oct 93 14:58:10 -0400 Received: from cantor by tinton.tinton.ccur.com SMTP/TCP Channel id aa06532; 4 Oct 93 14:55 EDT Subject: Other ftp sites? To: Roland Sampler SIG Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 14:54:53 -0400 From: Keith O McConnell X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Message-Id: <9310041454.aa06118@cantor.tinton.ccur.com> Status: R Someone recently mentioned a K2000 ftp site somewhere. What is the internet address of this site? -- /=======================================================================\ | Keith McConnell | | Compilers and Tools Group ________ | | Oceanport, NJ / _____/__ | | /__/____/ / | | e-mail: kom@tinton.ccur.com Concurrent /_______/ | | Voice: (908) 870-4983 Computer Corporation | \=======================================================================/ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 5 05:56:56 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88171-1>; Tue, 5 Oct 1993 05:56:49 -0400 Received: from ugw.utcc.utoronto.ca ([128.100.102.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Tue, 5 Oct 1993 05:53:12 -0400 Received: from ICIL64.CILEA.IT by ugw.utcc.utoronto.ca with BSMTP id <8569>; Tue, 5 Oct 1993 05:52:54 -0400 Received: from ICIL64.CILEA.IT by ICIL64.CILEA.IT (PMDF V4.2-11 #2920) id <01H3QXK5SH8G9S4385@ICIL64.CILEA.IT>; Tue, 5 Oct 1993 08:59:05 MET-DST Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1993 03:59:05 -0400 From: MTVENTUR@icil64.cilea.it Subject: W-30 info To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01H3QXK5TJTE9S4385@ICIL64.CILEA.IT> X-Envelope-to: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-VMS-To: IN%"sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: R I tried to find in the old mail how to get into hacker mode for the W-30 workstation. I didn't have luck. Would be someone be so kind telling me where can I find the information? Many thanks - Paolo From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 6 04:22:25 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88182-1>; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 04:22:15 -0400 Received: from MUWAYB.UCS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU ([128.250.20.7]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 04:10:21 -0400 Received: from 192.188.107.73 by muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (PMDF V4.2-14 #4399) id <01H3SV3DASTC003NT3@muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 18:09:58 +1000 Received: from loose.UUCP (loose@localhost) by zikzak.apana.org.au (8.5/8.5) with UUCP id IAA21168; Wed, 6 Oct 1993 08:00:06 GMT Received: by loose.apana.org.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0okRMV-00005SC; Wed, 6 Oct 93 15:24 EST Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1993 01:24:31 -0400 From: tricky@loose.apana.org.au (Tricky J.) Subject: roland s series To: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 206 Status: RO Could you please tell me if your s group caters for the s770-750 samplers? I've got one & was just wondering if there's an FTP site somewhere. Thanks in advance ......... Tricky. tricky@loose.apana.org.au From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 7 01:53:13 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88107-3>; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 01:53:03 -0400 Received: from leonis.nus.sg ([137.132.1.18]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 01:48:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (law23718@localhost) by leonis.nus.sg (8.2/8.2) id NAA21188; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 13:47:27 +0800 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 01:37:47 -0400 From: Lim Chin Ping Suzanne Subject: assigning samples to multiple outputs To: "Tricky J." cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R I refer to the Output Assign parameter for the Tones. Using the S-330, I have no problems with Tones assigned to different outputs eg I have a percussion patch with cowbell on Out1, tambourine on Out2, cabasa on Out3 etc etc. But when I try to do the same thing on the W-30, I lose polyphony in drastic amounts. Suddenly, sounds get cut off because I've run out of polyphony. Has anyone else experienced this, or does my W-30 need repairs? ---------------------- BENJAMIN law23718@leonis.nus.sg National University of Singapore From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 7 15:45:04 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88107-2>; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 15:44:57 -0400 Received: from gsusgi2.gsu.edu ([131.96.1.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 15:39:52 -0400 Received: by gsusgi2.gsu.edu (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca id AA05887; Thu, 7 Oct 93 15:44:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 15:41:32 -0400 From: Roth Ritter Subject: Re: assigning samples to multiple outputs To: Lim Chin Ping Suzanne Cc: "Tricky J." , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Make sure you have the note priority set to 'LAF' (last note first)... I used to have a W30 and do have a 330- I never had polyphony problems on the W30 anymore than the S330 has. If that doesn't fix it, you may have to make some other adjustment; I'm not convinced that it's a hardware problem. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: Roth Ritter :: :: >> artcrrx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu << :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: Georgia State University Art & Music :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: On Thu, 7 Oct 1993, Lim Chin Ping Suzanne wrote: > > I refer to the Output Assign parameter for the Tones. > > Using the S-330, I have no problems with Tones assigned to different > outputs eg I have a percussion patch with cowbell on Out1, tambourine on > Out2, cabasa on Out3 etc etc. > > But when I try to do the same thing on the W-30, I lose polyphony in > drastic amounts. Suddenly, sounds get cut off because I've run out of > polyphony. Has anyone else experienced this, or does my W-30 need repairs? > ---------------------- > BENJAMIN > law23718@leonis.nus.sg > National University > of Singapore > From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 7 16:14:39 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88107-1>; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 16:14:28 -0400 Received: from lamb.sas.com ([192.35.83.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 16:10:58 -0400 Received: from mozart by lamb.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Gateway/10-28-91) id AA07966; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 16:10:16 -0400 Received: from nghtshad.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA25882; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 16:06:47 -0400 Received: by nghtshad.unx.sas.com (5.65c/SAS/Generic 9.01/3-26-93) id AA24391; Thu, 7 Oct 1993 16:06:40 -0400 From: Anthony Friebel Message-Id: <199310072006.AA24391@nghtshad.unx.sas.com> Subject: S10 USERS --- PLEASE To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers Mailing List) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1993 17:06:39 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL20] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4568 Status: R Samplers - I am looking for ROLAND S-10 SOUND LIBRARY DISKS as listed below. Disks with the asterisk I have already obtained, and need the others. Please contact me if you have any of the missing disks or have info on disks 004 - 010 (were they ever produced?) and i can arrange methods for obtaining a copy. ROLAND no longer supports either the sampler or the disk library and I want to complete the set. I got the full list from Jim Norman, but the disks remain a mystery. can anyone help ? hmmm, we might want to make this library available on lotus as well... fyi - i have written an S10 MIDIEX Utility for MPU401 equipped PC's that can be used to send/receive S10 samples from/to PC diskette. see utilities directory at lotus or contact me for uuencode email. thanks in advance ! P.S. always interested in any other neat samples for S-10's ;) ROLAND SOUND LIBRARY DISKS * 001 dont know the names offhand * 002 but these three quick-disks * 003 came with the S-10 keyboard 004 005 006 007 008 009 010 L-101 Piano & Keyboard 011 Acoustic Piano Volume 1 012 Electric Piano 1/2 013 Clavi 014 Harpsichord 015 Pipe Organ L-102 Brass & Wind 016 Trumpet 1/2/3 Volume 1 017 Trombone 1/2 018 Flute 019 Alto Sax 020 Baritone Sax L-103 Mallets 021 Vibraphone 1/2 Volume 1 022 Vibraphone 3, Glockenspiel 023 Marimba 024 Bass Marimba, Xylophone 025 Tubular Bell 1/2, Wind Bell 1/2 L-104 Bass 026 Fingered Bass, Slap Bass Volume 1 027 Fingered Bass, Slap Bass 028 Picked Bass 1/2 029 Fretless Bass 1/2 030 Wood Bass L-105 Effects 031 Smash, Swish, Shatter, Scream Volume 1 032 Cannon 1/2, Helicopter, Gunshot 033 Door, Starter, Telephone 034 Music Box, String Pluck 035 Elephant, Cow, Cockoo, Dozilla L-106 Drum Set * 036 Electric Volume 1 * 037 Acoustic * 038 Acoustic * 039 Gong, Crash, Slap, Clap * 040 Crash, Rim, Cymbal, Cowbell L-107 Strings & Choir * 041 Strings Volume 1 * 042 Strings Variations 1/2 * 043 Violin * 044 Cello * 045 Choir L-108 Guitar * 046 Nylon Volume 1 * 047 Folk * 048 Folk * 049 Electric * 050 Electric L-109 Synth & Organ * 051 Electric Organ 1/2 Volume 1 * 052 Electric Organ 3/4 * 053 JP-8 Brass, JP-8 Strings * 054 VP Strings, VP Choir * 055 Solo Synth 1/2/3/4 L-110 Orchestra Hits 056 Orchestra Hit 1/2/3/4 Volume 1 057 Orchestra Hit 5/6 058 Orchestra Hit 7/8 059 Timpani 1/2, Ending 060 Harp L-111 Brass & Wind * 061 Brass 1/2 Volume 2 * 062 French Horn * 063 Tenor Sax 1/2/3 * 064 Soprano Sax 1/2 * 065 Bassoon -- ________________________________________________________________ Anthony L. Friebel |9> 6804 Electra Drive Internet: sasalf@unx.sas.com | Raleigh, NC 27607 Phone: (919) 859.5371 (evenings) | __________________________________________________________|_o___ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 8 04:10:36 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88150-1>; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 04:10:26 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 8 Oct 93 04:10:20 -0400 Received: from MUWAYB.UCS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU ([128.250.20.7]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 04:06:24 -0400 Received: from 192.188.107.73 by muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (PMDF V4.2-14 #4399) id <01H3VNICE0B40050RO@muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 18:05:24 +1000 Received: from loose.UUCP (loose@localhost) by zikzak.apana.org.au (8.5/8.5) with UUCP id IAA29270; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 08:03:19 GMT Received: by loose.apana.org.au (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0ol9II-00005UC; Fri, 8 Oct 93 14:19 EST Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 00:19:05 -0400 From: tricky@loose.apana.org.au (Tricky J.) Subject: roland subscribe To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 338 Status: RO You seem to have included me on the roland e-mailing list which is really cool,but unfortunately our sysop bans us from joining mailing lists because we only have a certain allowance for our mail feed,so please unsubscribe me from the list.I will join again if we get a larger email ratio. Thanks alot Tricky. tricky@loose.apana.org.au From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 8 12:29:24 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88150-3>; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 12:29:20 -0400 Received: from relay1.UU.NET ([192.48.96.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <56>; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 12:24:34 -0400 Received: from spool.uu.net (via LOCALHOST) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA27860; Fri, 8 Oct 93 12:24:05 -0400 Received: from krfiny.UUCP by uucp5.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 122354.25282; Fri, 8 Oct 1993 12:23:54 EDT Received: by krfiny.krf.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.30) id ; Fri, 8 Oct 93 12:19 EDT Received: by rnd220 (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.1) id ; Fri, 8 Oct 93 12:25 EDT Message-Id: From: davidw%rnd220@uunet.UU.NET (UNIXMAN) Subject: S10 source code Thanks !! To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Group) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1993 12:25:04 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: R Thanks to Anthony Friebel for mailing me the source code to his S10 recv/send Midi sysex utils. I have looked at the code and the format for requesting and and sending data to/from the S10 and it looks very similar to the mechanism for the S-550. The sysex headers and bytes look a lot like what's in the S-550 manual for Midi sysex programming. The only difference is that I don't think the S-550 has a front-panel key sequence for initiating a midi sample dump. You must initiate it by sending the S-550 the Midi sysex sample dump request for data. (I think). Just be more annoying, could Anthony mail me the mpu401 i/o code too ?? I currently don't have any code to do that yet. I have a Voyetra V24SM VAPI 2 in 4 out Midi/SMPTE/tape sync interface board for my 386. It has the mpu401 compatability chip in it. I just plain don't have enough damn time to do all this fun stuff with work and school and beers on Friday night!!! :-( -------------------------------------------------------------------- David J. Wilson Knight-Ridder, Inc. 75 Wall St. NYC, NY 10005 UNIX/Network Data Communications phone: 212-504-7845 MS-EE student EE-CS Dept. internet: uunet!krfiny!davidw Polytechnic University NY davidw@krf.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 14 23:33:08 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88107-3>; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 23:33:03 -0400 Received: from leonis.nus.sg ([137.132.1.18]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 23:26:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (law23718@localhost) by leonis.nus.sg (8.2/8.2) id LAA19511; Fri, 15 Oct 1993 11:25:24 +0800 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 23:19:46 -0400 From: Lim Chin Ping Suzanne Subject: Re: Personal Info To: scott dhomas trenn / Scott Wilkie cc: SGroup , nic@nms.otc.com.au In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R I forgot to give my personal info when I first subscribed, so here it is ---------------------- law23718@leonis.nus.sg National University of Singapore > Name: Benjamin Ang Location: Singapore > Sampler Model: S-330, also W-30 > Computer: PC-compatible with 80386/33 > Software: Cakewalk Pro v4 for DOS > Equipment: Roland S-330 Roland W-30 Kawai K1 Roland JX-8P (on loan) Korg Poly-800 Yamaha drum pads various non-MIDI eqpt: DR-220 drum machine, MC202 > > Instruments: > Music: Techno, Rave, Industrial, Cyberpunk Covers of golden oldies, pop, whatever you pay for > Activities: Recording demo CD; performing live > Studio: at home, using Fostex X-30 4-track > > Comments: From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 14 19:34:57 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 19:34:50 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 14 Oct 93 19:34:46 -0400 Received: from unb.ca ([131.202.3.20]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <10>; Thu, 14 Oct 1993 19:24:54 -0400 Received: from jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca by unb.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1-930526-09:20) id AA10268; Thu, 14 Oct 93 20:24:32 ADT Received: by jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1-930823-11:20) id AA10941; Thu, 14 Oct 93 20:24:27 ADT Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 19:22:24 -0400 From: scott dhomas trenn / Scott Wilkie Subject: Personal Info To: SGroup , nic@nms.otc.com.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Here is my personal info: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: scott dhomas trenn (wilkie@jupiter.sun.csd.ca) Location: CANADA, Fredericton, NB Sampler Model: S550 / S220 Computer: AMIGA 3000 / AMIGA 1000 / PC Laptop Software: *Custom* / Bars & Pipes Pro / Music-X / DMCS Equipment: Akai S612x2 Boss SE-50x2, NS-50 Casio VL-Tone, SK-1 Hammond Sounder Korg SDD1200, Wavestation Moog MiniMoog Roland A-50, R-8Mx2, S550, S220, Juno106 Soundcraft 200SR-24 Teac DA-P20 DAT Yamaha SPX90II, TX802, RX5, RX11, RX21L, QX5 etc... Instruments: Everything Music: Everything Activities: Everything Studio: young monkey Comments: Live long and MIDI --------------------------------------------------------------------------- **************************************************************************** ** ** * scott dhomas trenn : Fredericton, NB - CANADA * * scott wilkie Internet: wilkie@jupiter.sun.csd.ca * ** ** **************************************************************************** From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 15 16:33:50 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Fri, 15 Oct 1993 16:33:38 -0400 Received: from lear.Bos.Locus.COM ([192.80.81.7]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <199>; Fri, 15 Oct 1993 16:24:47 -0400 Received: from orchard.la.locus.com by lear.Bos.Locus.COM id aa10250; 15 Oct 93 16:26 EDT Received: by orchard.la.locus.com (5.61-AIX-1.2/1.0) from fafnir.la.locus.com with SMTP id AA156087 (for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, from tron@devnet.la.locus.com/tron@devnet.la.locus.com); Fri, 15 Oct 93 13:22:57 -0700 Received: by devnet.la.locus.com (5.61-AIX-1.2/0.07d) id AA186177 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Fri, 15 Oct 93 13:22:56 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1993 16:22:56 -0400 From: Michael Trofimoff Message-Id: <9310152022.AA186177@devnet.la.locus.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Personal Information Status: R Greetings all, please allow me to introduce myself as I am a newbie to this group: Name: Michael Trofimoff (tron@locus.com) Location: Los Angeles, CA USA Sampler Model: W30 Computer: 486DX 66Mhz VESA w/16M RAM Software: Windows 3.1, Cakewalk Pro 2.0 Equipment: Roland W30 Kurzweil K2000R Yamaha CP70 Yamaha DX/7 Ensoniq SD1 Proteus 1 w/expanded mem Alesis SR16 Lexicon LXP1 & LXP5 Alesis Quadraverb Alesis 3630 Compressor Limiter Gate Mackie Designs 1604 Soundboard Panasonic Pro700 ProDAT Recorder Blah, blah, blah.... Instruments: Keyboards, guitars, bass, drums, saxophone Music: Almost everything; sans the elevator type Projects: Currently working on band project with Alexander Sitkovetsky; guitarist from the Russian band "Avtograf". Writing songs for films, doing the 'LA' thing... Studio: Living Large Music Comments: "You mean you want 75% of my publishing, and 50% of my writing, and you won't even _shop_ my stuff????!!" *Vidi, vici, veni* -=< tron >=- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 18 17:41:54 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-1>; Mon, 18 Oct 1993 17:41:50 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 18 Oct 93 17:41:47 -0400 Received: from dront.nada.kth.se ([130.237.222.70]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Mon, 18 Oct 1993 17:35:17 -0400 Received: by dront.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA28095; Mon, 18 Oct 93 22:34:40 +0100 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1993 17:34:40 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9310182134.AA28095@dront.nada.kth.se> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Sample Wanted (Champagne COrk) Status: R Does anybody have the sound of a bubbly-wine cork popping? If not; anybody with a french bottle to spare for sampling? :-) Any format accepted, though a raw 16bit mono 48kHz sound file would be optimal. Cheers, / h+ PS: I'll trade you some drum loops or machine guns or something! -- -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe -- This sig less than 3 lines: Improve the UseNet S/N ratio! From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 19 16:45:49 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-1>; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 16:45:46 -0400 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 16:41:32 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com Received: from rosalind by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M2.1) id AA14170; Tue, 19 Oct 93 16:31:29 EDT Received: by rosalind (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-020793) id AA25103; Tue, 19 Oct 93 16:31:24 EDT Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 16:31:24 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9310192031.AA25103@rosalind> To: magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!analogue, att!auvm.american.edu!emusic-l, att!auvm.american.edu!synth-l, virginia.edu!dat-heads-request, mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu!gib, lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup, wbf Subject: I'm Baaaaaack! Status: R Hi, Sorry to waste bandwidth like this, but I stopped receiving mail yesterday for about 24 hours. If anybody sent me email, I didn't get it in that time period. (Sean Jepson - I did get yours.) If you're waiting for an answer, please resend your mail. Thanks. Bill Fox wbf@aloft.att.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 19 19:14:11 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-3>; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 19:14:03 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 19 Oct 93 19:14:02 -0400 Received: from netcom5.netcom.com ([192.100.81.113]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <56>; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 19:08:14 -0400 Received: by netcom5.netcom.com (5.65/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AA13951; Tue, 19 Oct 93 16:08:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 19:08:32 -0400 From: ribbit@netcom.com (Tony Mason) Message-Id: <9310192308.AA13951@netcom5.netcom.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Personal information Status: R Just thought I'd jump in on the bandwagon as well. :) I'm nowhere near the level of you guys, but hey, someone has to be low-end to balance the scales. Name: Tony Mason (ribbit@netcom.com) Location: San Diego, CA USA Sampler Model: S-50 with a flakey disk drive Computer: 486DX 33Mhz Software: Windows 3.1, Cakewalk Pro 2.0, Cakewalk 4.0 Equipment: Korg M-1 Korg Monopoly Roland R-8 Drum Machine Out of tune piano Beat up trumpet, guitar, flute Casio SK-1 Magical Musical Thing Speak 'n spell ....and a four track recorder to mix it all up. Bwahaha.. Instruments: Anything I find Music: Wierd Al & They Might be Giants meet Thomas Dolby, Kitaro & John Williams in a head-to-head rumble Projects: I made 2 low budget albums with lots of strange songs and gave it to anyone who wanted a copy. Want one? Let me know. Studio: "Unused bedroom" productions Quote: "There are no wrong notes." From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 19 22:46:10 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-3>; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 22:46:05 -0400 Received: from leonis.nus.sg ([137.132.1.18]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <163>; Tue, 19 Oct 1993 22:42:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (law23718@localhost) by leonis.nus.sg (8.2/8.2) id KAA07977; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 10:42:05 +0800 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1993 22:30:38 -0400 From: Lim Chin Ping Suzanne Subject: Re: Personal information To: Tony Mason cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <9310192308.AA13951@netcom5.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R > Just thought I'd jump in on the bandwagon as well. :) > I'm nowhere near the level of you guys, but hey, someone has > to be low-end to balance the scales. not _everyone_ here has a 24-track digital studio, y'know :) someday, maybe ... if my album goes platinum ... or my day job takes off. > Projects: I made 2 low budget albums with lots of > strange songs and gave it to anyone who wanted a > copy. Want one? Let me know. yes, sure! how can we get it from you? i have some material myself, but the tape will only be ready end 1993. does anybody else on this list have albums / tapes out? it's about time we heard the kinds of music that we're using these samplers for. ---------------------- Benjamin Ang law23718@leonis.nus.sg National University of Singapore From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 20 09:59:16 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-1>; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 09:59:08 -0400 Received: from freenet.scri.fsu.edu ([144.174.128.43]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 09:54:50 -0400 Received: by freenet.scri.fsu.edu id AA39916 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Wed, 20 Oct 1993 09:54:41 -0400 From: Kevin Brislin Message-Id: <199310201354.AA39916@freenet.scri.fsu.edu> Subject: Projects and stuff To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 09:54:38 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3.1 PL11] Status: R I was wondering if I could change the subject of the newsgroup for a few. I am releasing my first cassette in December and I'm interested in hearing from others that have marketed their own music. It's great to talk shop about samplers and stuff, but I need to talk about the business end of the deal. Email to brislink@freenet.fsu.edu or post to the group (if that's ok.) Maybe it's time that we create a listing of recordings available from this newsgroup and maintain it? Kevin Brislin deep kimchee -- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 20 10:10:59 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-1>; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 10:10:56 -0400 Received: from relay1.UU.NET ([192.48.96.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <56>; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 10:07:22 -0400 Received: from tinton.ccur.com (via tinton.tinton.ccur.com) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA08229; Wed, 20 Oct 93 10:07:10 -0400 Received: from cantor by tinton.tinton.ccur.com SMTP/TCP Channel id aa00872; 20 Oct 93 10:07 EDT Subject: cassettes, etc. To: Roland Sampler SIG Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 10:07:02 -0400 From: Keith O McConnell X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Message-Id: <9310201007.aa00256@cantor.tinton.ccur.com> Status: R Maybe we could trade sequences. If they could be saved to a standard MIDI file then we all should be able to make use of them. I know this is off the topic, but just a thought. Keith -- /=======================================================================\ | Keith McConnell | | Compilers and Tools Group ________ | | Oceanport, NJ / _____/__ | | /__/____/ / | | e-mail: kom@tinton.ccur.com Concurrent /_______/ | | Voice: (908) 870-4983 Computer Corporation | \=======================================================================/ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 20 10:45:21 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-3>; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 10:45:19 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 20 Oct 93 10:45:12 -0400 Received: from ac.dal.ca ([129.173.1.100]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <163>; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 10:41:44 -0400 Received: from AC.DAL.CA by AC.DAL.CA (PMDF V4.2-14 #2545) id <01H4C0D9E8O8003AMI@AC.DAL.CA>; Wed, 20 Oct 1993 11:11:15 -0300 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1993 10:11:15 -0400 From: Ray MacNeil Subject: Reply to Projects and Stuff To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <01H4C0D9E8OA003AMI@AC.DAL.CA> X-Vms-To: IN%"sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: R In reply to Kevin, >I was wondering if I could change the subject of the newsgroup for a >few. I am releasing my first cassette in December and I'm interested >in hearing from others that have marketed their own music. It's great >to talk shop about samplers and stuff, but I need to talk about the >business end of the deal. Email to brislink@freenet.fsu.edu or post to >the group (if that's ok.) Maybe it's time that we create a listing of >recordings available from this newsgroup and maintain it? >Kevin Brislin >deep kimchee >-- I think getting an idea of what kind of recording people are doing would be neat. Personally, I'm not doing anyhting highly experimental or 'techno' like I hear some of you talking about, but I am doing some recording using the S-50 as a voice in some pretty 'middle-of-the-road' kinds of ways, but I'm also open and interested in hearing other things. Who is really doing some recording out there im samplerland? Ray MacNeil Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 22 10:29:29 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88155-2>; Fri, 22 Oct 1993 10:29:24 -0400 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <42>; Fri, 22 Oct 1993 10:20:49 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com Received: from rosalind by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M2.1) id AA17697; Fri, 22 Oct 93 10:15:11 EDT Received: by rosalind (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-020793) id AA26108; Fri, 22 Oct 93 10:15:09 EDT Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1993 10:15:09 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9310221415.AA26108@rosalind> To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: Projects and stuff Status: R Kevin Brislin wrote: > ... I am releasing my first cassette in December and I'm interested > in hearing from others that have marketed their own music. Releasing a tape? Oh Kevin, you're in deep kimchee now! ;-} Seriously, you might want to talk to Mike Metlay. He released Team Metlay's CD "Bandwidth" earlier this year. Maybe Mike can give you some marketing ideas. Off hand, I'd say to advertise on sgroup, analogue heaven, and synth-l (but NOT emusic-l), and any other appropriate bitnet/internet/mailing lists. Also, you can talk to local record stores, music stores, and head shops to see who will put your tape on consignment. Be sure to give copies to radio/tv/magazine/newspaper media types for review and airplay. Learn the art of schmoozing. > ... It's great > to talk shop about samplers and stuff, but I need to talk about the > business end of the deal. Understandable and, as far as I'm concerned, OK to do on sgroup. > ... Maybe it's time that we create a listing of > recordings available from this newsgroup and maintain it? Great idea. Bill Fox P. S. You can use metlay@netcom.com to reach Mike. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 26 10:55:07 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88107-3>; Tue, 26 Oct 1993 10:54:59 -0400 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Tue, 26 Oct 1993 10:51:33 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com Received: from rosalind by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M2.1) id AA24171; Tue, 26 Oct 93 10:46:32 EDT Received: by rosalind (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-020793) id AA27184; Tue, 26 Oct 93 10:46:29 EDT Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 10:46:29 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9310261446.AA27184@rosalind> To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: S550 in DC Area Status: R In case anybody's interested... Bill Fox ================ > Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 08:19:56 -0400 > From: tmm@world.std.com (Tom M Moravansky) > To: analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu > Subject: Gear for sale in DC area > > This is a listing of gear for sale found in the Washington, D.C. > area Want Ads book. I will post this once a week, listing gear I think > may be of interest to readers of rmms and analogue heaven. DO NOT EMAIL > ME WITH QUESTIONS. Call the people listed directly. Area codes are as > follows: 301, 410 - Maryland, 703 - Northern Virginia, 202 - D.C. > > I am not responsible for any typos in this list, nor do I > guarantee the condition of anything listed. I am doing this in the hopes > that others will follow suit to help people locate the gear they want. I > do not receive any commission from any items sold. > > Roland S550 - $800 (703) 683-7425 From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 26 13:16:13 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88150-3>; Tue, 26 Oct 1993 13:16:03 -0400 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <158>; Tue, 26 Oct 1993 13:12:00 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com Received: from rosalind by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M2.1) id AA25603; Tue, 26 Oct 93 13:09:24 EDT Received: by rosalind (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-020793) id AA27230; Tue, 26 Oct 93 13:09:21 EDT Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 13:09:21 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9310261709.AA27230@rosalind> To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: More in DC Area Status: RO I told Tom that I posted the S550 item on sgroup. Then he sent me the following. Bill ========= > Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 11:53:39 -0400 > From: tmm@world.std.com (Tom M Moravansky) > To: wbf@aloft > Subject: Re: Gear for sale in DC area > > Hadn't thought about synth-l. I don't read it because I thought it > was basically an echo of rec.music.makers.synth. If you need more > Roland sampler leads - > > S-550 $1000 (301) 236-0335 > S-550 $ 900 (301) 588-6709 > S-330 $ 550 w. monitor (703) 455-3208 > S-750 $3600 obo (410) 661-3964 > there's also a couple of Emaxes. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 26 09:41:40 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88107-2>; Tue, 26 Oct 1993 09:41:32 -0400 Received: from netcom2.netcom.com ([192.100.81.108]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <56>; Tue, 26 Oct 1993 09:33:48 -0400 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (5.65/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AA10831; Tue, 26 Oct 93 06:34:20 -0700 From: filmuse@netcom.com (Jim Norman) Message-Id: <9310261334.AA10831@netcom2.netcom.com> Subject: roland update To: sgroup@lotus.Uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1993 09:34:19 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO -- To catch up with all of you that wanted to know about the Soundtools program. I finally located the software author in Brazil. His company does still exist, "Intersound" in Italy. He has updated the program for editing the S-50, S-550, and W-30 disks on the Atari. The new program is called UNISTAR. There is no US distribution of the programs. They are available for $500.00 (US) in europe. The gentleman, Constantin Coreth, might consider selling the program here in the states for less, but only if he gets "concrete orders". Of course, Roland can't carry this program for him, but hopefully their might be some company that might want to distribute the program. If anyone wants the company address, just post a message here, and I'll dig it up for you all. BTW, I have lend the S-10 library to Anthony Friebel, so that he can convert the data from quick disk to sysex. I'm still willing to do the same for the S-550 library as well. I will try to contact John Sellens to see if he or anyone else might be interested in doing this. Take care, and buy Roland products. Jim From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 27 13:53:53 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Wed, 27 Oct 1993 13:53:45 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 27 Oct 93 13:53:35 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <56>; Wed, 27 Oct 1993 13:43:54 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <88165-1>; Wed, 27 Oct 1993 13:43:38 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: please ignore - just an address test ... Message-Id: <93Oct27.134338edt.88165-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 13:43:37 -0400 Status: R I'm sending this in order to identify bad addresses on the sgroup mailing list, so please ignore this. Thanks. John Sellens sgroup mailing list maintainer jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 27 14:58:40 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-2>; Wed, 27 Oct 1993 14:58:29 -0400 Received: from transfer.stratus.com ([134.111.1.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 27 Oct 1993 14:51:31 -0400 Received: from vos.stratus.com (vos.stratus.com [134.111.18.12]) by transfer.stratus.com (8.6.3/8.6.3) with SMTP id OAA02346 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 1993 14:50:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199310271850.OAA02346@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 14:46:00 -0400 From: Rick_Fiorentino@vos.stratus.com To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: W30 sequencer editing Status: R Hello fellow Rolandites(?), Is the W30 disk format DOS compatible? The reason I ask is I would like to be able to take songs I have sequenced up on the W30 and do some editing on a PC. Is there a translation application available to accommodate me on this? I only want to use the PC to work with the file on the disk. I do not want to use the PC as a sequencer or any kind of MIDI interface for that matter. Any help or direction for this clueless soul would be greatly appreciated!! -Rick From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 27 18:01:47 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-1>; Wed, 27 Oct 1993 18:01:37 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 27 Oct 93 18:01:29 -0400 Received: from sdcc13.ucsd.edu ([132.239.50.13]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <160>; Wed, 27 Oct 1993 17:51:59 -0400 Received: by sdcc13.ucsd.edu (5.67/1.37.bk) id AA20148; Wed, 27 Oct 93 14:52:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 17:52:13 -0400 From: jdawes@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Handle Head Messiah) Message-Id: <9310272152.AA20148@sdcc13.ucsd.edu> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Sample Vision Status: RO Hey y'all, Awhile back I remember there being some hub-bub about Turtle Beach System's Sample Vision software. I am interested in purchasing this package. Can someone who already owns this package give me the price they paid for it and where? Thanks to all. John Dawes From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 28 04:04:44 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-2>; Thu, 28 Oct 1993 04:04:37 -0400 Received: from icil64.cilea.it ([131.175.1.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <162>; Thu, 28 Oct 1993 04:00:58 -0400 Received: from ICIL64.CILEA.IT by ICIL64.CILEA.IT (PMDF V4.2-14 #2920) id <01H4N2BQY6Y89UMPK8@ICIL64.CILEA.IT>; Thu, 28 Oct 1993 09:00:29 MET-DST Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 04:00:29 -0400 From: MTVENTUR@icil64.cilea.it Subject: W30 sequencer editing To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01H4N2BQZ9J69UMPK8@ICIL64.CILEA.IT> X-VMS-To: IN%"sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO Rick_Fiorentino@vos.stratus.com writes: >Hello fellow Rolandites(?), > Is the W30 disk format DOS compatible? The reason I ask is I would like >to be able to take songs I have sequenced up on the W30 and do some editing >on a PC. Would it be possible to write some kind of translator from the standard midi file format to the W30 format? Samdisk and the Hacker Mode can help us, in Hacker mode we can read the content of the sequencer blocks, and we can identify them on the samdisk image of the song disk. Anyone who can suggest more about this possibility can help us! Maybe Jim Norman can provide some documentation about how the W30 sequencer keep the midi data. A big Ciao to everyone From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 28 15:04:08 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-3>; Thu, 28 Oct 1993 15:04:00 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 28 Oct 93 15:03:53 -0400 Received: from gsusgi2.gsu.edu ([131.96.1.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <163>; Thu, 28 Oct 1993 14:58:16 -0400 Received: by gsusgi2.gsu.edu (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca id AA06596; Thu, 28 Oct 93 15:01:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 14:58:09 -0400 From: Roth Ritter Subject: Re: W30 sequencer editing To: Rick_Fiorentino@vos.stratus.com Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <199310271850.OAA02346@transfer.stratus.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R I'm not sure how compatible it is, but I know that the W30 are formated as IBM. Once I put in a W30 disk in a PC and loaded a DOS file utility (i.e. one that shows the files and lets you do renames, deletes, etc..) and saw a couple of files on the W30 disk that I was able to view in ASCII/HEX mode. All I could see was the names of songs and sounds. I also successfully changed these names through the editor. So, again, I'm sure it is, but to what extend I don't know... :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: Roth Ritter :: :: >> artcrrx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu << :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: Georgia State University Art & Music :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: On Wed, 27 Oct 1993 Rick_Fiorentino@vos.stratus.com wrote: > Hello fellow Rolandites(?), > Is the W30 disk format DOS compatible? The reason I ask is I would like > to be able to take songs I have sequenced up on the W30 and do some editing > on a PC. Is there a translation application available to accommodate me on > this? I only want to use the PC to work with the file on the disk. I do not > want to use the PC as a sequencer or any kind of MIDI interface for that > matter. Any help or direction for this clueless soul would be greatly > appreciated!! > -Rick > From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 29 11:58:04 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88174-2>; Fri, 29 Oct 1993 11:57:53 -0400 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 29 Oct 93 11:57:38 -0400 Received: from freenet2.scri.fsu.edu ([144.174.128.48]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <174>; Fri, 29 Oct 1993 11:54:02 -0400 Received: by freenet2.scri.fsu.edu id AA09243 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Fri, 29 Oct 1993 11:53:19 -0400 From: Kevin Brislin Message-Id: <199310291553.AA09243@freenet2.scri.fsu.edu> Subject: Projects update To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 11:53:19 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3.1 PL11] Status: R Kevin Brislin wrote: > ... I am releasing my first cassette in December ... How's it going? Have you received any good input on self releases? What promotion have you done/are you doing? Please tell us (the sgroup, that is) about the tape. Bill Fox Update: After getting a real hard time about releasing a cassette, I realized that I had made an error in my marketing plan that could not be ignored. Hence, I am releasing a CD of original music in December. I haven't heard an encouraging word yet from ANYONE that has only heard of this project, but I've gotten a lot of advance sales once they hear the music. I am promoting locally by putting in small displays in two local record stores, sending press kits/copies to the music press here in Florida, sending promo copies of the CD to college and alternative radio stations I am aware of in this region (to start) and sending copies to the national music press magazines for review if they so desire. Distribution will be via mail order, word of mouth, and hopefully by a few small distribution channels once I get a buzz going. The music is 12 original songs that are in the alternative rock slant, but keyboard oriented. It was once described as "the Cars meet Pink Floyd and go have sex with Joni Mitchell." Go figure. Kevin Brislin deep kimchee (a new record label I've started)( now that they're here (the group pseudonym I work under) -- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 29 12:33:45 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88173-3>; Fri, 29 Oct 1993 12:33:39 -0400 Received: from dront.nada.kth.se ([130.237.222.70]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <176>; Fri, 29 Oct 1993 12:26:49 -0400 Received: by dront.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA27892; Fri, 29 Oct 93 17:26:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 12:26:18 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9310291626.AA27892@dront.nada.kth.se> To: brislink@freenet2.scri.fsu.edu, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Projects update Status: R > I haven't heard an encouraging word yet from ANYONE that has only > heard of this project, but I've gotten a lot of advance sales once > they hear the music. I am promoting locally by putting in small > displays in two local record stores, sending press kits/copies to the > music press here in Florida, sending promo copies of the CD to college Actually, it's a good idea to have the CDs pressed when you start marketing, since people are going to want copies when they hear about ti, not a month later... so a second drive after the CDs are made (for Xmas, even :-) would probably be good. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 29 17:34:04 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88167-1>; Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:33:59 -0400 Received: from unb.ca ([131.202.3.20]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <158>; Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:28:41 -0400 Received: from jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca by unb.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1-931019-13:55) id AA03816; Fri, 29 Oct 93 18:28:20 ADT Received: by jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1-930823-11:20) id AA08629; Fri, 29 Oct 93 18:28:15 ADT Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 17:26:56 -0400 From: scott dhomas trenn / Scott Wilkie Subject: Personal INFO - Update To: SGroup , nic@nms.otc.com.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R Nic Grant (nic@nms.otc.com.au) Here is my information, again, it had some missing equipment and the EMAIL address was incorrect. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name: scott dhomas trenn (wilkie@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca) Location: CANADA, Fredericton, NB Sampler Models: Roland S550 / S220, AKAI S612 Computer: AMIGA 3000T / AMIGA 3000 / AMIGA 1000 / PC Laptop Software: *Custom* / Bars & Pipes Pro / Music-X / DMCS Equipment: Akai S612x2 Boss SE-50x2, NS-50 Casio VL-Tone, SK-1 Hammond Sounder Korg SDD1200, Wavestation Moog MiniMoog Roland A-50, S550, S220, Juno106, R-8Mx2, TR606, TR909, TR727 Soundcraft 200SR-24 Teac DA-P20 DAT Univox EchoChamber Yamaha SPX90II, TX802, RX5, RX11, RX21L, QX5 etc... Instruments: Everything Music: Everything Activities: Everything Studio: young monkey Comments: Live long and MIDI --------------------------------------------------------------------------- **************************************************************************** ** ** * scott dhomas trenn : Fredericton, NB - CANADA * * scott wilkie Internet: wilkie@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca * ** ** **************************************************************************** From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 29 11:07:21 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88170-1>; Fri, 29 Oct 1993 11:07:14 -0400 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <111>; Fri, 29 Oct 1993 11:01:14 -0400 From: wbf@aloft.att.com Received: from rosalind by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M2.1) id AA04033; Fri, 29 Oct 93 10:57:02 EDT Received: by rosalind (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-020793) id AA28599; Fri, 29 Oct 93 10:56:57 EDT Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1993 10:56:57 -0400 Original-From: aloft!wbf (william.b.fox) Message-Id: <9310291456.AA28599@rosalind> To: lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup Subject: Re: Projects and stuff Status: R Kevin Brislin wrote: > ... I am releasing my first cassette in December ... How's it going? Have you received any good input on self releases? What promotion have you done/are you doing? Please tell us (the sgroup, that is) about the tape. Bill Fox