From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Feb 1 15:48:08 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168810-2>; Mon, 1 Feb 1993 15:47:56 -0500 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <32>; Mon, 1 Feb 1993 15:41:59 -0500 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.EDU by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA24833; Mon, 1 Feb 93 15:39:31 EST Received: by rodan.acs.syr.EDU (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA00830; Mon, 1 Feb 93 15:39:21 EST Message-Id: <9302012039.AA00830@rodan.acs.syr.EDU> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Mac Sample Editing Software Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 15:39:20 -0500 From: "neil herzinger" Status: R Allright, this may have been discussed in the past, but I'll pay attention now, I swear!. My question isn't so much 'What software exists', although I'd like to know about programs besides alchemy and sound designer. But 'How does it work w/ the S-50'? I know there's no SCSI support, so does the S-50 support the MIDI dump? How long does it take? Can you hear the sample through the mac speaker once it's transferred? Is there a key sequence on the S-50 front panel that will dump a sample through MIDI? Is the sample dump a sysex message? (like, can I record it with Performer's sys ex record function?). Plenty of questions to ponder... thanks for any and all responses. neil From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 2 02:29:19 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169084-3>; Tue, 2 Feb 1993 00:02:07 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 2 Feb 93 00:02:04 -0500 Received: from world.std.com ([192.74.137.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <35>; Mon, 1 Feb 1993 23:55:28 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA21687; Mon, 1 Feb 1993 23:54:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1993 23:46:03 -0500 From: michael gary moncur Subject: Re: Mac Sample Editing Software To: SGroup Post In-Reply-To: <9302012039.AA00830@rodan.acs.syr.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R On Mon, 1 Feb 1993, neil herzinger wrote: > work w/ the S-50'? I know there's no SCSI support, so does the S-50 support > the MIDI dump? How long does it take? Can you hear the sample through the mac > speaker once it's transferred? Is there a key sequence on the S-50 front panel > that will dump a sample through MIDI? Is the sample dump a sysex message? > (like, can I record it with Performer's sys ex record function?). I'm sure the S-50 supports some sort of sample dump, same as the S-330 and S-10 do, which I'm familiar with. However, It is my impression that the S-770, and possibly the S-550, are the only roland samplers that support the "Sample Dump Standard". Other Rolands use their own 'standard'. Sample dumps -are- done through sysex messages, whether standard or not. You could undoubtedly use sysex record to dump them in and out, although editing them is another matter. As far as time is concerned, a sample dump for a 1-second sample on the S10 used to take me about 30 seconds. I'm not sure what the capacity of the S-50 is, but the S-330 holds about 17 seconds of sample, which would probably take about 8-9 minutes (!) - Definitely not an option for live performances, unless you're really good at talking to crowds. As for hearing and/or editing the sound on the mac, something would either have to understand Roland sysex format, or convert it to the Sample Dump Standard. I'm not sure if this is possible, since I don't have a mac. (I can tell you that it's impossible on the Atari ST, but that doesn't help.) Good luck, and let me know what you find out - I can get a mac emulator for my ST for almost nothing if I find a good piece of mac software that will do the job. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Feb 22 13:19:22 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168810-1>; Mon, 22 Feb 1993 13:19:18 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <6>; Mon, 22 Feb 1993 12:49:37 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <168797-3>; Mon, 22 Feb 1993 12:49:17 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Awfully quiet out there, and welcome to some new list members Message-Id: <93Feb22.124917est.168797-3@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 12:49:16 -0500 Status: R Since it's been a little quiet on the sgroup lately, I thought I had better send this out just to make sure it's still working. And besides - here's a chance to offer a welcome to some recent additions to the mailing list: Paul Schwab Paul Hammond Cesare Tirabassi I Formosa Tom Metro John From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 04:19:33 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167965-1>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 04:19:25 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 23 Feb 93 04:19:16 -0500 Received: from estec.estec.esa.nl ([131.176.23.38]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 04:13:38 -0500 Received: from ESTEC by estec.estec.esa.nl (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0467; Tue, 23 Feb 93 10:13:14 CET Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 04:13:13 -0500 From: "Cesare Tirabassi (NSI)" Subject: Beginner questions To: Message-Id: <93Feb23.041338est.30@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: R As the subject says, and being a newcomer of this group, I'd like to introduce myself and bring up some points of interest to me. My name is Cesare, and I live in the Netherlands. I own a W-30, which, for several reasons, is largely unutilised. I have seen in the sgroup ftp site that something has been done in the past to let other hardware platforms read the S-50, S-550, W-30 etc. diskettes format. I did not see anywhere anything that could allow a samples processing, in particular for IBM PC and clones, which is what I'm interested about. Only thing I spotted is that the S format could be transformed in 8-bit raw data and then processed by csound. Anything else? Sorry if this is one FAQ, feel free to flame myself ;-) BTW, has anybody tried to make any good "analog" patch out of the W-30 basic ROM tones, like saw, square waves, JX-10... Finally, I'm short of good synth bass samples (I'm particularly interested in DX-7, Moog). Anybody out there willing to trade them with some of my samples? Ciao, Cesare Email: ctirabas@estec.estec.esa.nl or ctirabas@estec.bitnet From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 05:43:40 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168218-1>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 05:43:37 -0500 Received: from oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([131.1.101.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <37>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 05:40:16 -0500 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA06351; Tue, 23 Feb 93 02:39:51 -0800 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.51/smail2.5/12-18-87) id AA06348; Tue, 23 Feb 93 02:39:48 PST Return-Path: Received: by xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA27338; Tue, 23 Feb 93 11:37:30 GMT Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 06:37:30 -0500 From: grillo@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Savino Grillo) Message-Id: <9302231037.AA27338@xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: S550- SCSI Interface Status: R Hi there, I just bought an used S550, and now I'm planning to install an Hard Disk. I have the opportunity to buy the SCSI interface for about 90$, BUT since I live in Italy where the customer is NOTHING forget about support, I'd like to ask same information from your experience guys: 1- Will the HD fit inside the S550 ? 2- If (1)= FALSE the I need an external Power Supply ? 3- Can I Boot DIRECTLY from the Hard Disk ? 4- What items comes with the kit ? 5- Can I do myself the Installation ? 6- Do I need something special ? 7- It's worthing anyway ? My operative system release is the 1.11, Keyoboard magazine stated that the last release is the 1.3, So I called the local Roland office but... "I'm sorry guys NO support for Second Hand gear.....", again we are in Italy!!! So I'm asking if it is possible without break any legal rule to have the Rel. 1.3. Thank you very much indeed. Savino. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 07:09:51 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168534-2>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 07:09:46 -0500 Received: from lise1.lise.unit.no ([129.241.36.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <41>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 07:06:27 -0500 Received: from lise7.lise.unit.no by lise1.lise.unit.no with SMTP id ; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 13:06:00 +0100 Received: from localhost by lise7.lise.unit.no ; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 13:05:58 +0100 Message-Id: <199302231205.AA06763@lise7.lise.unit.no> To: grillo@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Savino Grillo) Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: S550- SCSI Interface/OS 1.3 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 23 Feb 93 06:37:30 EST." <9302231037.AA27338@xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 07:05:57 -0500 From: jonjen@lise.unit.no X-Mts: smtp X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Status: R Hello! I do want an 1.3 OS too! Can I have it? If not, why? If yes, how? Greetings from Norway, Jon Jenssen. ------------------------------ jonjen@lise.unit.no From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 08:49:55 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168571-2>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 08:49:55 -0500 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <43>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 08:46:33 -0500 From: wbf@aluxpo.att.com Received: from alux1.cnet.att.com by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-022293) id AA13367; Tue, 23 Feb 93 08:44:30 EST Received: by alux1.cnet.att.com (4.1/DCS-aluxpo_client-022293) id AA26802; Tue, 23 Feb 93 08:44:38 EST Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 08:44:38 -0500 Original-From: aluxpo!wbf (William Fox) Message-Id: <9302231344.AA26802@alux1.cnet.att.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Status: R Subject: In Search of the Lost Chord and Ultimate Bass Patch Cesare wrote: > Finally, I'm short of good synth bass samples (I'm particularly interested > in DX-7, Moog). Anybody out there willing to trade them with some of > my samples? Welcome to the list Cesare (and to the others, too). If you'd like some bass patches, I contributed a few to the library, shepherded by George Demarest. (Do you have the rules for using the library?) My patches were sampled from a Roland Juno-106. I'm finally in my new home and am in the process of setting up my studio. I have two Micromoogs and a Multimoog. If you can get the Moog samples from the Roland Sound Library and they aren't enough, maybe I could do a little sampling of Moog Bass sounds for our library. ("Real Soon Now") Ciao, Bill Fox From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 09:44:46 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168603-1>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 09:44:38 -0500 Received: from griffin.emba.uvm.edu ([132.198.1.11]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <53>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 09:40:46 -0500 Received: by griffin.emba.uvm.edu id AA22683 (5.65/1.11); Tue, 23 Feb 93 09:37:23 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 09:37:23 -0500 From: coan@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU Message-Id: <9302231437.AA22683@griffin.emba.uvm.edu> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: looking for the sample librarian Status: R Hey, Sorry to bother the whole list with this, but I lost the e-mail address of our sample librarian and I'm just trying to check and see when he'll have time to send my disks back. That's all. Bye! coan@emba.uvm.edu From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 09:56:07 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168611-3>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 09:56:02 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 23 Feb 93 09:55:57 -0500 Received: from oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([131.1.101.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <57>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 09:52:44 -0500 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA08608; Tue, 23 Feb 93 06:52:17 -0800 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.51/smail2.5/12-18-87) id AA08605; Tue, 23 Feb 93 06:52:13 PST Return-Path: Received: by xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA27764; Tue, 23 Feb 93 15:49:55 GMT Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:49:55 -0500 From: grillo@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Savino Grillo) Message-Id: <9302231449.AA27764@xsft1.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@lotus Subject: S550-SCSI Again.. Status: R About S550 SCSI interface: It's possible to connect whathever SCSI Hard Disk ? Thanks Savino From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 10:45:27 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168651-3>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:45:15 -0500 Received: from estec.estec.esa.nl ([131.176.23.38]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <61>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:42:05 -0500 Received: from ESTEC by estec.estec.esa.nl (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0721; Tue, 23 Feb 93 16:41:35 CET Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 10:41:34 -0500 From: "Cesare Tirabassi (NSI)" Subject: Re: In Search of the Lost Chord and Ultimate Bass Patch To: Message-Id: <93Feb23.104205est.61@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: R Bill Fox wrote: >Welcome to the list Cesare (and to the others, too). If you'd like some >bass patches, I contributed a few to the library, shepherded by George >Demarest. (Do you have the rules for using the library?) Thanks a lot for answering. As I could understand from the rules I've found at the FTP site, only home made samples are allowed in the library (well, not really says so, but it says to not consider the Roland library or any other commercial ones, so what it remains?) Unfortunately I did not make any sample worth considerations from somebody else and the only good samples I own have been bought from a local store. So, I'll try to sample more interesting stuff (for instance the bells from the church right next door my house, even if a sampling would not let you realise how wonderful they are every Sunday morning at 7:30 :-( ...) I'll make an effort to contribute to the library. At the very end, why do I have a sampler if I never sample (somebody could argue that my mental health has been seriously mined by the loss of sleep time ... )? Ciao, Cesare From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 12:28:25 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168893-2>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 12:28:17 -0500 Received: from apple.com ([130.43.2.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <72>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 12:22:27 -0500 Received: by apple.com (5.61/7-Aug-1992-eef) id AA18442; Tue, 23 Feb 93 09:07:00 -0800 for Received: from nlp4.UUCP by nli.com (4.1/nli.com(V1.0)) id AA03706; Tue, 23 Feb 93 08:42:25 PST Received: from nlp16.nli.com (nlp16.ARPA) by nlp4 (4.1/nli(V1.0)) id AA02296; Tue, 23 Feb 93 08:39:07 PST Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 11:39:07 -0500 From: stan@nli.com (Stan Sawyer) Message-Id: <9302231639.AA02296@nlp4> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: noisey S-550 Cc: sgs@nli.com Status: R Hello, S-group, I recently traded (up?) from an S-50 to an S-550. After lots of hassles, (the S-550 initially made *NO* sound because a loose wire from the mouse port had shorted out the output pot) the S-550 is finally in my home studio. While in the process of converting my library of sounds, I've sensed that the output from the S-550 is considerably noisier than the S-50. Has anyone else had experience with this? Other than an expander or a noise gate is there any way to reduce this noise? (I've already tried better/ different/shorter cables and several different volumes.) Is there still some- thing wrong with this unit? Also, I just saw the messages about an OS version 1.3. I would be very interested in this if there are any improvements and no new bugs. Anyone have details about this? stan From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 13:29:43 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168928-3>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 13:29:37 -0500 Received: from volitans.MorningStar.Com ([137.175.2.11]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <75>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 13:19:53 -0500 Received: from trigger.morningstar.com by volitans.MorningStar.Com (5.65a/92122901) id AA10846; Tue, 23 Feb 93 13:17:12 -0500 Received: by trigger.MorningStar.Com (5.65a/93011501) id AA14859; Tue, 23 Feb 93 13:17:10 -0500 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.6v2); Tue, 23 Feb 93 13:17:03 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: noisey S-550 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 13:17:03 -0500 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-Id: <0105009A.qvl2f3@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2 Status: R In Regards to your letter <9302231639.AA02296@nlp4>: > > Hello, S-group, > > I recently traded (up?) from an S-50 to an S-550. After lots of hassles, > (the S-550 initially made *NO* sound because a loose wire from the mouse port > had shorted out the output pot) the S-550 is finally in my home studio. While > in the process of converting my library of sounds, I've sensed that the output > from the S-550 is considerably noisier than the S-50. > > Has anyone else had experience with this? Other than an expander or a > noise gate is there any way to reduce this noise? (I've already tried better/ > different/shorter cables and several different volumes.) Is there still some- > thing wrong with this unit? I have a S-330 and have experienced noise problems in the past. I solved the problem by relocating the unit within the rack away from other equipment that it didn't get along with. I keep a studio notes/log. Here is an entry of mine related to this problem: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I have noticed that the Roland S-330 is very sensitive to where it it located in the rack. Equipment that is know to cause the S-330 to produce a hum in my set-up is the ART MultiVerb II, Yamaha SPX-900 and especially the SAE 100 per channel AMP. The hum on the AMP was so bad that I relocated the amp to another rack with the EVI. In the same rack with the SPX-900 I placed the Roland S-330 in the lowest part of the rack that it would fit causing it to be 7-8 rack spaces away from the nearest piece of equipment which is the patch-bay. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hope this helps! David david@roth-music.com From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 13:33:45 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168936-3>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 13:33:40 -0500 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <76>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 13:29:35 -0500 From: wbf@aluxpo.att.com Received: from alux1.cnet.att.com by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-022293) id AA18357; Tue, 23 Feb 93 13:18:43 EST Received: by alux1.cnet.att.com (4.1/DCS-aluxpo_client-022293) id AA01154; Tue, 23 Feb 93 13:18:51 EST Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 13:18:51 -0500 Original-From: aluxpo!wbf (William Fox) Message-Id: <9302231818.AA01154@alux1.cnet.att.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Status: R Subject: Noisey S-550 Hi Stan, This may or may not help you. If you are using the MIX output, it is a summation of the eight individual outputs and is noisier as a result. Try running from an individual output and see if that helps. Bill Fox From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 20:03:29 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169814-2>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 20:03:22 -0500 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <78>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 19:56:44 -0500 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.EDU by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA21525; Tue, 23 Feb 93 19:55:58 EST Received: by rodan.acs.syr.EDU (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA07664; Tue, 23 Feb 93 19:55:42 EST Message-Id: <9302240055.AA07664@rodan.acs.syr.EDU> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Tons o' Messages Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 19:55:37 -0500 From: "neil herzinger" Status: R Welcome to all the new subscribers, it's nice to see all this activity. >My operative system release is the 1.11, Keyoboard magazine stated that >the last release is the 1.3, So I called the local Roland office but... >"I'm sorry guys NO support for Second Hand gear.....", again we are in Italy! >So I'm asking if it is possible without break any legal rule to have >the Rel. 1.3. I say screw the legal rules. If you've made an honest effort to obtain the new system version and they've said "forget it", then you just have to get it your own way. I mean, I can't see Roland caring about the legal aspects if they don't even care about customer support. Maybe if you trade disks with George (our faithful librarian) the disks you get back will have the recent OS on them. >Sorry to bother the whole list with this, but I lost the e-mail address >of our sample librarian and I'm just trying to check and see when he'll >have time to send my disks back. I know he switched jobs recently, so it might have changed. I don't know if I have a current address. John? >About S550 SCSI interface: > It's possible to connect whathever SCSI Hard Disk ? You need to rephrase this question, it really doesn't make any sense :-) > This may or may not help you. If you are using the MIX output, it is a >summation of the eight individual outputs and is noisier as a result. Try >running from an individual output and see if that helps. Wow Bill, I never even thought of this. I've only got 4 outputs, but they still are probably quieter. The S-50 has always been the noisyest thing in my rig. I'll have to try it. On another note, I now have access to Sound Designer II (Got an Audiomedia II card at school!). Would this be an appropriate format to put samples in on the ftp site? I think I've heard of apps that can convert Sound Designer II files for the IBM. What do you people think? I know there are a few files on the site now, but I don't know what format they're in. neil From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Feb 23 21:10:32 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169836-1>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 21:10:25 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 23 Feb 93 21:10:20 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <79>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 21:07:02 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <169834-3>; Tue, 23 Feb 1993 21:06:36 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@lotus Subject: Re: Tons o' Messages Message-Id: <93Feb23.210636est.169834-3@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 21:06:34 -0500 Status: R | >Sorry to bother the whole list with this, but I lost the e-mail address | >of our sample librarian and I'm just trying to check and see when he'll | >have time to send my disks back. | | I know he switched jobs recently, so it might have changed. I don't know | if I have a current address. John? The most recent email address I have for George is gfd@usl.com, though that bounced yesterday, but I'm not sure if that's a permanent or a temporary problem. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Feb 24 16:22:49 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88165-3>; Wed, 24 Feb 1993 16:22:45 -0500 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <4>; Wed, 24 Feb 1993 16:11:46 -0500 From: wbf@aluxpo.att.com Received: from alux1.cnet.att.com by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-022293) id AA07053; Wed, 24 Feb 93 16:07:47 EST Received: by alux1.cnet.att.com (4.1/DCS-aluxpo_client-022293) id AA17978; Wed, 24 Feb 93 16:07:57 EST Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 16:07:57 -0500 Original-From: aluxpo!wbf (William Fox) Message-Id: <9302242107.AA17978@alux1.cnet.att.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Status: R Subject: S550's OS Rev Level I called Roland today (213-685-5141) and asked about the OS revision level. Scott Sommers (spelling?) said that it is at 1.13. When I said that I had 1.11 he said that he'd send me a disk with 1.13 on it. Simple, eh? Now let's see if Roland will support Savino in Italy! Give 'em a call, Savino, and let us know how you fare. Bill Fox 215-439-7217 | "If you're tired of wine, women, and song, AT&T Bell Labs | you could always give up singing!" 555 Union Blvd. Rm. 1B-107 | Allentown, PA 18103 (USA) | - Carter Jastrom wbf@alux1.att.com | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Feb 24 16:49:17 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Wed, 24 Feb 1993 16:49:14 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 24 Feb 93 16:49:11 -0500 Received: from hercules.cs.uregina.ca ([142.3.200.90]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <80>; Wed, 24 Feb 1993 16:45:47 -0500 Received: by hercules.cs.uregina.ca (5.61/1.34) id AA17887; Wed, 24 Feb 93 15:44:58 -0600 From: keeler@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Jason Keeler) Message-Id: <9302242144.AA17887@hercules.cs.uregina.ca> Subject: My samples...anyone get them? To: sgroup@lotus (Roland Sampler Group) Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1993 16:44:57 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: R Good afternoon sgroup'ers; Just wondering if anyone had received an updated list of samples from George. I sent him my disk of samples on December 23, yet I have yet to hear whether or not they made it to him or if any of you have received a copy. ...Jason BTW, does anyone here know if the S-770/750 can read S-50/330/550 disks? From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 15:33:20 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88169-3>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 15:33:14 -0500 Received: from ics.uci.edu ([128.195.1.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 15:29:37 -0500 Received: from bonnie.ics.uci.edu by q2.ics.uci.edu id aa07678; 25 Feb 93 10:31 PST Received: from bonnie.ics.uci.edu by Bonnie.ics.uci.edu id aa26915; 25 Feb 93 10:31 PST To: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, wbf@aluxpo.att.com Subject: Re: Roland S-750 digital I/O In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:08:32 EST." <9302251508.AA13654@hemul.nada.kth.se> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 13:31:21 -0500 From: " Ciaran M. Foley " Message-ID: <9302251031.aa26915@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> Status: RO > >Yay! I've been wanting digital I/O for a time (and a lot >of others with me) - Paying $THOUSANDS extra for the 770 >isn't worth it. > >Guess what? What? My K2000 has digital I/O for under $500.00. And oodles more memory and.... (please no flames....) Ciaran From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 16:06:51 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88172-3>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 16:06:41 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 25 Feb 93 16:06:32 -0500 Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA ([132.204.2.103]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <90>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 16:03:18 -0500 Received: from eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA01295 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Thu, 25 Feb 1993 20:59:54 GMT Received: from brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA by eole.ERE.UMontreal.CA (920330.SGI/5.17) id AA13007; Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:59:53 -0500 Received: by brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA (920330.SGI/5.17) id AA27408; Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:59:52 -0500 From: dionf@ere.umontreal.ca (Francois Dion) Message-Id: <9302252059.AA27408@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Subject: Re: Roland S-750 digital I/O To: cfoley@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Ciaran M. Foley) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 15:59:52 -0500 Cc: sgroup@lotus In-Reply-To: <9302251031.aa26915@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu>; from "Ciaran M. Foley" at Feb 25, 93 1:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO Beyond the ultraworld of Ciaran M. Foley: > > >Yay! I've been wanting digital I/O for a time (and a lot > >of others with me) - Paying $THOUSANDS extra for the 770 > >isn't worth it. > > What? My K2000 has digital I/O for under $500.00. Just a note, that if you have an ibm compatible you can get the I/OCardD for around 250$ list, 199$ retail in mail orders which will give your computer digital i/o. You can then use a program like samplevision to edit the samples you transfered, then either save it on floppy for the sampler or send thru sysex... Basically, this gives even the smallest samplers the best quality samples you can get (from DATs, CDs etc...) Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 17:10:10 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88173-3>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 17:10:02 -0500 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <91>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 17:03:41 -0500 Received: from nada.kth.se (mail.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8-/1.28) id AA26743; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 23:02:52 +0100 Received: from hemul.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA28651; Thu, 25 Feb 93 23:02:50 +0100 Received: by hemul.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA10806; Thu, 25 Feb 93 23:01:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 17:01:29 -0500 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9302252201.AA10806@hemul.nada.kth.se> To: cfoley@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU, dionf@ere.umontreal.ca Subject: Re: Roland S-750 digital I/O Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO > Just a note, that if you have an ibm compatible you can get the I/OCardD for > around 250$ list, 199$ retail in mail orders which will give your computer > digital i/o. You can then use a program like samplevision to edit the > samples you transfered, then either save it on floppy for the sampler or > send thru sysex... Basically, this gives even the smallest samplers the best I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I already have digital I/O for my Mac (synced to my Sequencer, even) And shuffling 18 MB of sample on disk is almost as painful as doing it over SysEx - that's why I want digital I/O from the S-750. Cheers, / h+ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Feb 26 09:15:44 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88213-1>; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 09:15:37 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 Feb 93 06:29:17 -0500 Received: from lise1.lise.unit.no ([129.241.36.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <29>; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 06:24:40 -0500 Received: from lise13.lise.unit.no by lise1.lise.unit.no with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 12:24:28 +0100 Received: from localhost by lise13.lise.unit.no ; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 12:24:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199302261124.AA25300@lise13.lise.unit.no> To: sgroup@lotus Subject: Re: Roland S-750 digital I/O In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:59:52 EST." <9302252059.AA27408@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 06:24:26 -0500 From: jonjen@lise.unit.no X-Mts: smtp X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Status: R Francois Dion wrote: >Just a note, that if you have an ibm compatible you can get the I/OCardD for >around 250$ list, 199$ retail in mail orders which will give your computer >digital i/o. Interesting... This is exactly what I need. Do you have any names of available models? Greetings from Norway, Jon Jenssen. ------------------------ jonjen@lise.unit.no From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Feb 26 09:16:15 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88225-1>; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 09:16:07 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 Feb 93 06:28:02 -0500 Received: from lise1.lise.unit.no ([129.241.36.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <29>; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 06:24:40 -0500 Received: from lise13.lise.unit.no by lise1.lise.unit.no with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 12:24:28 +0100 Received: from localhost by lise13.lise.unit.no ; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 12:24:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199302261124.AA25300@lise13.lise.unit.no> To: sgroup@lotus Subject: Re: Roland S-750 digital I/O In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Feb 93 15:59:52 EST." <9302252059.AA27408@brise.ERE.UMontreal.CA> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 06:24:26 -0500 From: jonjen@lise.unit.no X-Mts: smtp X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Status: R Francois Dion wrote: >Just a note, that if you have an ibm compatible you can get the I/OCardD for >around 250$ list, 199$ retail in mail orders which will give your computer >digital i/o. Interesting... This is exactly what I need. Do you have any names of available models? Greetings from Norway, Jon Jenssen. ------------------------ jonjen@lise.unit.no From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Feb 26 09:16:30 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88181-1>; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 09:16:24 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 Feb 93 03:05:19 -0500 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <81>; Fri, 26 Feb 1993 02:50:10 -0500 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.EDU by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA18208; Fri, 26 Feb 93 02:49:57 EST Received: by rodan.acs.syr.EDU (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA09014; Fri, 26 Feb 93 02:49:41 EST Message-Id: <9302260749.AA09014@rodan.acs.syr.EDU> To: sgroup@lotus Subject: Re: Incognito In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 25 Feb 93 10:28:00 EST." <93Feb25.103636est.85@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1993 02:49:40 -0500 From: "neil herzinger" Status: R Good to hear from you George! I'm glad the new job is going well. > the mixes. I have received stuff from Kat, Neil, and David. This is > gonna be FUNNNNN!!!! I'm looking very forward to hearing it! Adding to my question in the last message about file formats.... What formats are the files that are now on the FTP site? I think there are about 3 files from 2 different sources... neil From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 08:45:24 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-1>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 08:45:20 -0500 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <81>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 08:41:48 -0500 From: wbf@aluxpo.att.com Received: from alux1.cnet.att.com by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-022293) id AA13959; Thu, 25 Feb 93 08:39:34 EST Received: by alux1.cnet.att.com (4.1/DCS-aluxpo_client-022293) id AA02984; Thu, 25 Feb 93 08:39:47 EST Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 08:39:47 -0500 Original-From: aluxpo!wbf (William Fox) Message-Id: <9302251339.AA02984@alux1.cnet.att.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Subject: Monitor Cable - Home Brew > Off to the component shop to buy resistors, transistors > and veroboard, plus a few plugs, back home, heat up the > soldering iron, and two hours later the monitor works. While > the parts cost me much less than the Roland cable would have, > the two hours to fix the sync-inverter needed for the cable > cost me more in lost billing... > / h+ > -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe -- Hello Jon, Please publish your sync inverter cable schematic. Bill Fox From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 10:11:34 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:11:28 -0500 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <81>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:06:57 -0500 Received: from nada.kth.se (mail.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8-/1.28) id AA02207; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 16:06:30 +0100 Received: from hemul.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA23902; Thu, 25 Feb 93 16:06:18 +0100 Received: by hemul.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA13503; Thu, 25 Feb 93 16:06:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:06:17 -0500 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9302251506.AA13503@hemul.nada.kth.se> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, wbf@aluxpo.att.com Subject: Sync-inverter for S-750 Status: RO > Please publish your sync inverter cable schematic. Well, I'm not sure I can, since it's in the back of the Roland S-750 manual which says "(c) Roland" Anyway, this cable is only usable for W-330, S-750 and S-770 (I'm hazy about the first one) - maybe also for S-50 and S-550 ? It--->----*----------------6 4-----<1k-<----|--*-------------7 5----->--->----|--|--*----------8 8-----|---C > > > | B---<--<--<----------4 9-----C E > > >100 B--|----|--|--|----------5 E | | | | 1,2-----*---*----*--*--*----------2, shield Now, is this the ASCII drawing from hell, or what? Simple analysis: The three 100 ohm resistors act as pull-down and load for the R, G and B signals (6, 7 and 8) while the transistors and 1k resistors act as inverters for the HSync and VSync signals (Signal in - open gate - ground output. No signal - output lifted by the resistors) Signal 1 is +5,2 volts and signal 2 is (you guessed it) ground. There's one unused, not connected pin on each connector. I though I said I couldn't publish that? Oh, but this is a drawing reverse-engineered from my VeroBoard creation :-) In fact, every row in the drawing corresponds to a row on the veroboard. You need about 3x3 cm VeroBoard, 2 NPN transistors, 3 100 ohm resistors and 2 1k resistors, plus the EGA 9-pin D-sub and the DIN 8-pin plug for the Roland. -- -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe -- "Just because you're paranoid(P) doesn't mean the aren't after(A) you" !(P -> !A) == !(!P | !A) == !(!(P & A)) == P & A From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 10:16:36 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-2>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:16:17 -0500 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <84>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:11:22 -0500 Received: from nada.kth.se (mail.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8-/1.28) id AA02386; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 16:08:36 +0100 Received: from hemul.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA23915; Thu, 25 Feb 93 16:08:33 +0100 Received: by hemul.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA13654; Thu, 25 Feb 93 16:08:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:08:32 -0500 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9302251508.AA13654@hemul.nada.kth.se> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, wbf@aluxpo.att.com Subject: Roland S-750 digital I/O Status: RO Yay! I've been wanting digital I/O for a time (and a lot of others with me) - Paying $THOUSANDS extra for the 770 isn't worth it. Guess what? I just came from my dealer's (got a refund for the cable they couldn't deliver, see previous post) - and Roland Denmark has fixed a digital I/O that they're currently testing. It works for them now; they just need to do some QA on it. Guess who's going to be lining up real soon? :-) Hope this mod filters out to y'all outside the Nordic countries. Cheers, / h+ From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 10:41:24 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88169-1>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:41:15 -0500 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <85>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:36:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:28:00 -0500 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Incognito Received: from usl by usl.com; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:28 EST Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1058 Message-Id: <93Feb25.103636est.85@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO Sgroupsters, My site is still having problems with mail. I have been getting the sgroup traffic but apparently my messages are not making out to you. I'm on a different network right now that I'll send from in the meantime. My attempts have basically said the following: 1. All disks I have received are now copied and finished and ready to go. Shame SHAME on Peter D for not sending postage. For all others, sorry about the delay. I have been absolutely swamped with the new job (that is great, BTW), and have had no time whatsoever. Anyway, the disks are on their way. 2. My new address is gfd@univel.com. Use it! All the rest of the stuff is the same. I wont be able to post the new library list for a few more days. 3. Sgroove is officially closed. Next step is to swap with Jon and do the mixes. I have received stuff from Kat, Neil, and David. This is gonna be FUNNNNN!!!! 4. Jon, drop me a line telling me you're alive. As soon as mail gets cleaned up around here, I'll be back on the block Peace! gfd From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 10:41:24 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88169-1>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:41:15 -0500 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <85>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:36:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:28:00 -0500 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Incognito Received: from usl by usl.com; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 10:28 EST Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1058 Message-Id: <93Feb25.103636est.85@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO Sgroupsters, My site is still having problems with mail. I have been getting the sgroup traffic but apparently my messages are not making out to you. I'm on a different network right now that I'll send from in the meantime. My attempts have basically said the following: 1. All disks I have received are now copied and finished and ready to go. Shame SHAME on Peter D for not sending postage. For all others, sorry about the delay. I have been absolutely swamped with the new job (that is great, BTW), and have had no time whatsoever. Anyway, the disks are on their way. 2. My new address is gfd@univel.com. Use it! All the rest of the stuff is the same. I wont be able to post the new library list for a few more days. 3. Sgroove is officially closed. Next step is to swap with Jon and do the mixes. I have received stuff from Kat, Neil, and David. This is gonna be FUNNNNN!!!! 4. Jon, drop me a line telling me you're alive. As soon as mail gets cleaned up around here, I'll be back on the block Peace! gfd From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 11:37:53 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88169-3>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 11:37:47 -0500 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <87>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 11:34:04 -0500 From: wbf@aluxpo.att.com Received: from alux1.cnet.att.com by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-022293) id AA06833; Thu, 25 Feb 93 11:30:41 EST Received: by alux1.cnet.att.com (4.1/DCS-aluxpo_client-022293) id AA12345; Thu, 25 Feb 93 11:30:54 EST Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 11:30:54 -0500 Original-From: aluxpo!wbf (William Fox) Message-Id: <9302251630.AA12345@alux1.cnet.att.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Status: RO Subject: Monitor Cable - Home Brew Jon, Many thanks for the cable diagram. > You need about 3x3 cm VeroBoard, 2 NPN transistors, 3 > 100 ohm resistors and 2 1k resistors, plus the EGA 9-pin > D-sub and the DIN 8-pin plug for the Roland. Will ANY NPN transistors do? Or should I get NPN transistors having certain characteristics? Bill Fox 215-439-7217 | "If you're tired of wine, women, and song, AT&T Bell Labs | you could always give up singing!" 555 Union Blvd. Rm. 1B-107 | Allentown, PA 18103 (USA) | - Carter Jastrom wbf@alux1.att.com | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 04:00:26 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88169-3>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 04:00:14 -0500 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <81>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 03:56:59 -0500 Received: from nada.kth.se (mail.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8-/1.28) id AA04350; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 09:56:33 +0100 Received: from loire.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA19168; Thu, 25 Feb 93 09:56:31 +0100 Received: by loire.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA29450; Thu, 25 Feb 93 09:56:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 03:56:30 -0500 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9302250856.AA29450@loire.nada.kth.se> To: keeler@hercules.cs.uregina.ca, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: My samples...anyone get them? Status: RO The S-750 can read S-550 disks (at least the CD-ROMs) Cheers, / h+ Anecdote: I went to myRoland dealer to order the cable from a 750 to an IBM monitor. It was in the price list (recent) and not very expensive. Fine says I, pay in advance and am on my way. Three days later, a call from my dealer "Roland says there is no chance they can fix a cable this side of new year." "Hey," says I, "it's February." "We know." Off to the component shop to buy resistors, transistors and veroboard, plus a few plugs, back home, heat up the soldering iron, and two hours later the monitor works. While the parts cost me much less than the Roland cable would have, the two hours to fix the sync-inverter needed for the cable cost me more in lost billing... Cheers, / h+ -- -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe -- There's no sex act that can't be made better with Jell-O. From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Feb 25 05:23:14 1993 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88168-3>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 05:23:11 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 25 Feb 93 05:23:06 -0500 Received: from lise1.lise.unit.no ([129.241.36.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <84>; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 05:19:44 -0500 Received: from lise10.lise.unit.no by lise1.lise.unit.no with SMTP id ; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 11:19:31 +0100 Received: from localhost by lise10.lise.unit.no ; Thu, 25 Feb 1993 11:19:29 +0100 Message-Id: <199302251019.AA16763@lise10.lise.unit.no> To: sgroup@lotus In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 24 Feb 93 16:07:57 EST." <9302242107.AA17978@alux1.cnet.att.com> Subject: S550's OS Rev Level Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1993 05:19:28 -0500 From: jonjen@lise.unit.no X-Mts: smtp X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Status: RO >I called Roland today (213-685-5141) and asked about the OS revision >level. Scott Sommers (spelling?) said that it is at 1.13. When I >said that I had 1.11 he said that he'd send me a disk with 1.13 on it. >Simple, eh? Now let's see if Roland will support Savino in Italy! Give >'em a call, Savino, and let us know how you fare. Hi there! I ordered OS 1.13 months ago from Roland Scandinavia, and I still haven't recieved it. Could someone please send me both the system disk and the utility disk? Or, what about loading the two disks up at the sample ftp-site in Samdisk format? That shouldn't be hard to do... And legal? Well when Roland doesn't care about me, why should I care about Roland? Greetings from Norway, Jon Jenssen --------------------------------- jonjen@lise.unit.no From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Feb 28 21:57:03 1993 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88210-2>; Sun, 28 Feb 1993 21:56:56 -0500 Received: from volitans.MorningStar.Com ([137.175.2.11]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <4>; Sun, 28 Feb 1993 21:49:30 -0500 Received: from trigger.morningstar.com by volitans.MorningStar.Com (5.65a/92122901) id AA20114; Sun, 28 Feb 93 21:49:09 -0500 Received: by trigger.MorningStar.Com (5.65a/93011501) id AA13369; Sun, 28 Feb 93 21:49:07 -0500 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.6v2); Sun, 28 Feb 93 18:35:02 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: stan@nli.com Subject: Re: noisey S-550 Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 18:35:02 -0500 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-Id: <0105009A.rddik9@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2 Status: R In Regards to your letter <9302232129.AA03211@nlp4>: > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > >I have noticed that the Roland S-330 is very sensitive to where it it located > >in the rack. Equipment that is know to cause the S-330 to produce a hum in > >my set-up is the ART MultiVerb II, Yamaha SPX-900 and especially the SAE > >100 per channel AMP. The hum on the AMP was so bad that I relocated the > >amp to another rack with the EVI. In the same rack with the SPX-900 I > >placed the Roland S-330 in the lowest part of the rack that it would fit > >causing it to be 7-8 rack spaces away from the nearest piece of equipment > >which is the patch-bay. > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > David, > > Thanks for your reply. > > As it turns out, my S-550 is not in a rack at all. I didn't want > it buried among the other rack stuff while I was working so much with it... > so it currently sits on a tier of my A-frame keyboard stand. It *is* only > about 4 inches from a VZ-10M, so I'll try moving it away from this unit. > It's a good 8-12 inches from *anything* else. > > Again, thanks for your quick reply! > > stan How it helps. It was a pain to do but how I found this out was I removed most of the equipment while in use and monitored the change in the noise. I noticed how when I placed certain pieces together they acted strange. Let me know what you find out. David david@roth-music.com