From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Nov 1 12:18:40 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168496-3>; Sun, 1 Nov 1992 12:18:37 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31192>; Sun, 1 Nov 1992 12:10:09 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <168494-1>; Sun, 1 Nov 1992 12:01:56 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: more old messages added to the archive ... Message-Id: <92Nov1.120156est.168494-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 12:01:55 -0500 Status: R For those history buffs amongst you, Neil has just provided sgroup archives from February 90 to February 92. For anonymous FTP from taipan.uwaterloo.ca in pub/sgroup/archives John P.S. Thanks Neil! From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Nov 6 17:33:17 1992 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168959-3>; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:33:13 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <30>; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:16:59 -0500 From: John Sellens To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: New address for the Roland sgroup list and archive Message-Id: <92Nov6.171659est.30@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:16:54 -0500 Status: RO Sorry for the short notice, but the Roland sgroup list and archive have moved (thanks to the kind indulgence of a local admin) to the machine lotus.UWaterloo.ca. The addresses are accordingly changed to sgroup-request@lotus.UWaterloo.ca for addition, deletion, administrative requests, and sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca to send a message to everyone on the list. The FTP archive has also moved to lotus.UWaterloo.ca. There are some discussions that our internet link is heavily loaded, and there are worries that there might be some suggestion that such a list shouldn't be maintained at Waterloo, so if you are willing and able to provide a home for the sgroup, please let me know in case it gets to the point where the axe must fall. Anything you send to taipan.UWaterloo.ca will start bouncing, so don't use that address any more. Sorry for the inconvenience. John Sellens Roland Sgroup mailing list maintainer jmsellens@watdragon.UWaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat Nov 7 00:08:39 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169061-1>; Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:08:33 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Sat, 7 Nov 92 00:08:26 -0500 Received: from world.std.com ([192.74.137.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <33>; Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:01:04 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA09222; Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:00:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:57:52 -0500 From: michael gary moncur Subject: Samples at FTP site? To: SGroup Post Cc: self Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO There are scores of samples at lotus.UWaterloo.ca in /pub/sgroup/samples/etc. How do I get the 330 / 550 / S50? ones into my S330? Is there a utility for the Atari ST, IBM PC, or even mac that does this, or are they in some sort of standard SYSEX format for transmission via MIDI? Thanks for any info... ~`~`michael moncur - mgm@world.std.com / sysop@onlybbs.via.mind.org ~`~` From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Nov 9 13:19:34 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168602-2>; Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:19:27 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 9 Nov 92 13:19:18 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca via suspension id <32>; Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:16:28 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30>; Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:48:06 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <168581-3>; Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:47:48 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: mgm@world.std.com, sgroup@lotus Subject: Re: Samples at FTP site? Message-Id: <92Nov9.124748est.168581-3@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:47:47 -0500 Status: R | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat Nov 7 00:08:39 1992 | From: michael gary moncur | Subject: Samples at FTP site? | To: SGroup Post | Cc: self | Mime-Version: 1.0 | Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII | | | There are scores of samples at lotus.UWaterloo.ca in | /pub/sgroup/samples/etc. | | How do I get the 330 / 550 / S50? ones into my S330? Is there a utility | for the Atari ST, IBM PC, or even mac that does this, or are they in some | sort of standard SYSEX format for transmission via MIDI? | | Thanks for any info... | | | ~`~`michael moncur - mgm@world.std.com / sysop@onlybbs.via.mind.org ~`~` In pub/sgroup/utilities you can find "dart" for the Mac, and "samdisk" for the PC which can be used to copy a sampler disk image (that you have ftp'd (or whatever) onto your Mac/PC) from your Mac/PC onto a diskette for use in your sampler. John From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Nov 10 11:08:22 1992 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168728-1>; Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:08:13 -0500 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <27>; Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:01:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:52:00 -0500 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: from Ray MacNeil Received: from usl by usl.com; Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:52 EST Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1403 Message-Id: <92Nov10.110150est.27@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Status: R [George... could you bounce this to the SGroup please. I lost the new address, but still had yours... that's why I'm sending it to you. Thanks] Guys/Gals... I saw a post on r.m.s. today (yes, if you wade through all the bullSH** that's going on there, there are still a couple of useful posts being made), that discussed the use of a single SCSI disk for both a keyboard and a computer. The poster thought that the technology was available to do this, as long as you dodn't try to access the SCSI disk from both the computer and the keyboard at the same time. Presumably you would have to partitions on the disk, but I don't see how exactly this would work, (ie primary partitions in DOS). Anyhow, it got me to thinking about SCSI again, and I'm wondering out loud, does anyone have a SCSI disk on their S-50? (Neil??) If so, how does the disk affect (improve) loading time? I'm interested in both the loading of System software (on startup), and changing samples, (after startup). Obviously I'm more interested in hearing how it affects the loading of samples, (after the system software is already installed). It seems a couple of hundred $$ would be a good investment in a SCSI disk if my access to samples in a live situation improved significantly, but I seem to recall soeone saying that this improvement was minimal on the S samplers. Comments?? Ray MacNeil Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Nov 10 12:13:25 1992 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168755-3>; Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:13:21 -0500 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <29>; Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:09:13 -0500 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA24347; Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:09:02 EST Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA25308; Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:03:11 EST Message-Id: <9211101703.AA25308@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: from Ray MacNeil In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:52:00 EST." <92Nov10.110150est.27@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:03:10 -0500 From: "neil herzinger" Status: R I don't have a hard disk on my S-50. I think you need a hardware upgrade for the SCSI connection, and that would add to the cost. I think someone once said that access time is not significantly better than using floppies, but of course you have a lot more storage space which is nice. neil From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Nov 19 20:19:07 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169694-1>; Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:18:59 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:37:47 -0500 Received: from griffin.emba.uvm.edu ([132.198.1.11]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <35>; Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:28:58 -0500 Received: by griffin.emba.uvm.edu id AA14869 (5.65/1.11); Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:27:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:27:30 -0500 From: coan@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU Message-Id: <9211192327.AA14869@griffin.emba.uvm.edu> To: sgroup@lotus Subject: W-30 disks --> computer Status: R Hello! Hey, is there any way I can take my W-30 disks and load them onto a computer (IBM or MAC) so that I can store them there? Actually, I want to store them in my account on the university mainframe, just in case my disks fry for some reason; if I lost my sounds/songs I would be way pissed!!! -- Brian MacLeod Coan coan@emba.uvm.edu -- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Nov 19 21:25:56 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169809-1>; Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:25:51 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:25:43 -0500 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <37>; Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:22:37 -0500 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA11066; Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:23:22 EST Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA02718; Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:17:41 EST Message-Id: <9211200217.AA02718@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@lotus Subject: Re: W-30 disks --> computer In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:27:30 EST." <9211192327.AA14869@griffin.emba.uvm.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:17:40 -0500 From: "neil herzinger" Status: R The sgroup ftp site has utilities for both the mac and the ibm that can read any format disk and store it as an image file. The Mac program is called DART and I believe the IBM program is called 'samdisk'. BTW John, and anyone else interested, I think the version of DART in the site is corrupted. I've tried to download it twice and it hasn't unbinhexed either time. Of course that could also be 'cause Syracuse's mainframe seems to be a TRS-80 (the Hub model of course). I'm outta here tomorrow for a week. Happy T-giving to all the 'mericans out there. neil From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Nov 20 14:31:49 1992 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168410-2>; Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:31:41 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <38>; Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:10:38 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <168396-2>; Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:07:03 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: naherzin@mailbox.syr.edu, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: W-30 disks --> computer Message-Id: <92Nov20.140703est.168396-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:06:56 -0500 Status: R | From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Nov 19 21:25:56 1992 | To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca | Subject: Re: W-30 disks --> computer | From: "neil herzinger" | | BTW John, and anyone else interested, I think the version of DART in the site | is corrupted. I've tried to download it twice and it hasn't unbinhexed either | time. Of course that could also be 'cause Syracuse's mainframe seems to be a | TRS-80 (the Hub model of course). It's in the archive as dart.hqx.Z which means that it has to be retrieved in binary form, uncompressed, and then unbinhexed. I just tried it and it worked fine for me. It might be that a lot of Mac users don't have easy access to uncompress, so I could probably uncompress it in the archive if that was useful. John Sellens jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Nov 23 09:04:37 1992 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168804-2>; Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:04:29 -0500 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <35>; Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:01:10 -0500 From: wbf@alux1.att.com Received: by alux1 (4.1/DCS-alux1-103192) id AA15735; Mon, 23 Nov 92 09:00:02 EST Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:00:02 -0500 Original-From: alux1!wbf (William Fox) Message-Id: <9211231400.AA15735@alux1> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Status: R Subject: Dr. Synth I've heard the DR-660 and it sounds great but it isn't rack mountable. Has Boss come out with a rack mountable drum machine or are you possibly thinking about the Alesis D4 module? Bill From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Nov 23 02:06:10 1992 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168754-3>; Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:06:02 -0500 Received: from griffin.emba.uvm.edu ([132.198.1.11]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <57>; Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:01:48 -0500 Received: by griffin.emba.uvm.edu id AA03694 (5.65/1.11); Mon, 23 Nov 92 02:01:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:01:40 -0500 From: coan@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU Message-Id: <9211230701.AA03694@griffin.emba.uvm.edu> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Dr. Synth Status: R Hello! Well, this isn't entirely relevant to the s-group, but...has anyone heard Boss' Dr. Synth module? How are the sounds? I'm looin' to get a synth rack mount to use with my W-30; this one sounded relatively affordable and easy to use. coan@emba.uvm.edu BTW, looin' = lookin' :) From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Nov 24 16:04:12 1992 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169033-1>; Tue, 24 Nov 1992 16:04:06 -0500 Received: from bcars520 ([192.58.194.73]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <38>; Tue, 24 Nov 1992 15:54:32 -0500 X400-Received: by mta bcars520 in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 24 Nov 1992 15:51:44 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 24 Nov 1992 15:51:21 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 24 Nov 1992 10:49:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 10:49:00 -0500 X400-Originator: /DD.ID=1577285/G=Shiv/I=S/S=Naimpally/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.531:24.10.92.20.51.21] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Dr. Synth From: "Shiv (S.) Naimpally" Message-ID: <"1556 Tue Nov 24 15:51:37 1992"@bnr.ca> To: wbf@alux1.att.com Cc: "Matt (M.) Cohen" , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Dr. Synth Status: R In message "", wbf@alux1.att.com writes: > Subject: Dr. Synth > > I've heard the DR-660 and it sounds great but it isn't rack mountable. > Has Boss come out with a rack mountable drum machine or are you possibly > thinking about the Alesis D4 module? The Dr. Synth is a Boss tone module. not a drum machine. I have heard that it is like a Sound Canvas (which is a souped up MT32). It is a sample playback unit with little or no editing facilities (though it may be possible through sysex) like the MT32.