From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat Oct 3 03:28:41 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168274-1>; Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:27:27 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Sat, 3 Oct 92 03:27:24 -0400 Received: from reggae.concert.net ([128.109.131.3]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Sat, 3 Oct 1992 03:15:09 -0400 Received: from lambada.oit.unc.edu by reggae.concert.net (5.59/tas-reggae/8-15-92) id AA14083; Fri, 2 Oct 92 04:29:12 -0400 From: Received: by lambada.oit.unc.edu (5.57/TAS/11-16-88) id AA25303; Fri, 2 Oct 92 04:27:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9210020827.AA25303@lambada.oit.unc.edu> Subject: Attn. Don Law To: sgroup@taipan Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:27:56 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO Sorry to have to write to the group for this, but I seem to have lost Don Law's e-mail address. The check I sent for the S-10 manual came back with an "insufficient address" sticker on it while I was on vacation. If you hear me Don, could you send a working address and I'll try again. I used the Ada development, MS404, Encore Computer Corp. thing last time. Thanks, Bob Weigel From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 4 03:05:43 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167972-3>; Sun, 4 Oct 1992 03:05:40 -0400 Received: from gould.encore.com ([129.91.131.1]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Sun, 4 Oct 1992 03:00:39 -0400 Received: from ranger.encore.COM by gould.encore.com with SMTP id AA11500 (5.64+/UK-2.1-920501); Sat, 3 Oct 92 15:27:04 -0400 Received: by ranger.encore.com id AA05423 (5.54/UK-2.1-910806); Sat, 3 Oct 92 15:24:38 EDT From: Don Law Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:24:38 -0400 Message-Id: <5423.9210031924@ranger.encore.com> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Attn. Don Law Cc: Bob.Weigel@lambada.oit.unc.edu Status: RO > If you hear me Don, could you send a working address and I'll try again. Here am I! There might be other people in S-group that would like to know a source for S-10 manuals, so I'll mail this to everyone. (I know the S-10 ain't much, but it IS a sampler - and it meets my needs.) I agreed to copy my S-10 manual for Bob for $5 to cover copying, postage, etc. Home address: Don Law 722 SW 81st Avenue #10A North Lauderdale, FL 33068 Work address is in signature - it is now complete. South Florida mail is the worst I've ever seen - they lose my stuff all the time. About a month ago I got an important letter about 2 weeks too late to be any good. It looked like a big dog had taken a bite out of it and then played with it for a few hours. It arrived in a plastic bag with a sad story from the post office about how the economy has driven them to use machines that occasionally mutilate your mail. So try again, I guess. Both addresses should work. -- Don Law dlaw@gould.encore.com -- Ada Development, MS404 ...!uunet!gould!dlaw -- Encore Computer Corporation -- 6901 West Sunrise Blvd. ***** In the computer lab, ***** -- Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33313 ***** No one can hear you scream. ***** From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 9 03:13:42 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168235-2>; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:13:39 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.8.98]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30761>; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:11:38 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA13541; Fri, 9 Oct 92 03:11:09 -0400 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.5v4); Fri, 9 Oct 92 02:44:15 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Fwd: [murat@farallon.com (Murat N. Konar)]SCSI Interface for S-550 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:44:15 -0400 Cc: murat@farallon.com Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Sender: david@david.roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Reply-To: murat@farallon.com Message-Id: <0105009A.fl8jue@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: R I'm forwarding your request the Roland Sampler's Mailing List. David david@roth-music.com Forward of article from murat@farallon.com (Murat N. Konar): Anyone know if one can still get a SCSI interface for Roland's S550 sampler and if so where, how much, etc. Thanks in advance! ______________________________________________________________________________ Murat N. Konar murat@farallon.com Sound Software Engineer (NOT!) Farallon Computing, Inc. From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 9 03:14:15 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168235-1>; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:14:09 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.8.98]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30763>; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:13:20 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA13560; Fri, 9 Oct 92 03:11:23 -0400 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.5v4); Fri, 9 Oct 92 02:46:37 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Fwd: [larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)]Re: SCSI Interface for S-550 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:46:37 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Sender: david@david.roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Reply-To: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu Message-Id: <0105009A.fl8odh@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: R Forward of article <1992Oct6.224108.1101@newshub.sdsu.edu> from larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel): Murat N. Konar (murat@farallon.com) wrote: > Anyone know if one can still get a SCSI interface for Roland's S550 sampler > and if so where, how much, etc. > > Murat N. Konar I think you can still get them new. I think the part is HD5/IF, or something like that. You can call Roland at (213)685-5141, or one of the major music mail-order places, like maybe Rhythm City (404)237-9552. It probably costs about $300. Larry From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 8 11:50:01 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167969-2>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:49:56 -0400 Received: from bcars520 ([192.58.194.73]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30756>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:48:42 -0400 X400-Received: by mta bcars520 in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:46:33 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:45:44 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:41:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:41:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /DD.ID=1577285/G=Shiv/I=S/S=Naimpally/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.833:08.09.92.15.45.44] Original-Encoded-Information-Types: ia5, undefined X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: hard drive From: "Shiv (S.) Naimpally" Message-ID: <"16870 Thu Oct 8 11:46:09 1992"@bnr.ca> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: hard drive Status: RO The W30 has a standard SCSI port so you should be able to hook up any standard Mac hard drive. Check magazines like Macworld for places that sell SCSI drives. The advantages of a hard disk are : faster load times, no more hunting through diskettes, etc. Does anyone know of a way to add a SCSI port to an S330 ? I would very much like to get a hard disk for my S330. cheers, Shiv shiv@bnr.ca From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 8 15:52:57 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168224-1>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:52:53 -0400 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30756>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:51:09 -0400 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA23677; Thu, 8 Oct 92 15:51:43 EDT Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA00170; Thu, 8 Oct 92 15:48:43 EDT Message-Id: <9210081948.AA00170@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: S-220 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:48:40 -0400 From: "neil herzinger" Status: RO >>> if anyone has any sysex experience with it. I have a HyperCard stack that will save and load samples to a Mac's hard disk (causing me to run out of space, of course, but it's better than those damn >>> Does this work through MIDI?!? Will it work for the good old S-50?!? I'm very interested in this stack. Re: the sysex question, I don't know much about it, but I tested my S-50 once. What I did was set up Performer to read all incoming sysex and basically did everything you can on the S-50 front panel. Switched programs, edited sounds, changed loop points, etc... All of this info was recorded and played back fine, I was amazed. I don't know how this translates to the S-220 though. Hope it helps. neil From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 9 16:47:52 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168180-1>; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:47:44 -0400 Received: from watserv2.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.128.100]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30757>; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:44:09 -0400 Received: from UICVM.UIC.EDU ([128.248.2.50]) by watserv2.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167991>; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:43:56 -0400 Received: from BRUFSC.BITNET by UICVM.UIC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 9173; Fri, 09 Oct 92 15:43:06 CDT Received: by BRUFSC (Mailer R2.08) id 5549; Fri, 09 Oct 92 14:29:23 BSC Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:27:22 -0400 From: Flavio Bressan <87141167%BRUFSC.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU> Subject: Memory expansion and Hard drive to W30. To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <92Oct9.164356edt.167991@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Status: R Hello , I have the mails about this topic that was discuted last month. If you are interested, send me a private mail (to decrease the traffic at net). Flavio /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FLAVIO BRESSAN - 87141167@BRUFSC | IF YOU WANT TO SEND YOUR MUSIC TO GRAD IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING | MY RADIO SHOW, PLEASE SEND, IN RE- FADERAL UNIVERSITY OF SANTA CATARINA| GISTERED MAIL, TO: ------------------------------------| FLAVIO BRESSAN | R AFONSO PENA, 987 - ESTREITO | 88070-650 - FPOLIS - SC - BRASIL \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 9 17:45:00 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168178-2>; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:44:56 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.8.98]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30764>; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:42:44 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA19507; Fri, 9 Oct 92 17:41:32 -0400 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.5v4); Fri, 9 Oct 92 17:16:14 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: naherzin@mailbox.syr.edu Subject: Re: I'm Baaaack. Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:16:14 -0400 Cc: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-Id: <0105009A.fmrmtc@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: R In Regards to your letter <9210080057.AA09449@rodan.acs.syr.edu>: > > No, it's not Ross Perot, it's me, neil! Hi Neil! How's it going? > > I'm back and I'm a bad grad student so watch out. Better put some content > in here.....ummmm...well, I'll be around another 3 years, so I might have time > to work on that Hypercard Stack, or something similar (for sample record > keeping). I just might be able to squeeze a few more samples into the library > as well. Got lots of stuff on DAT I need to transfer. Oh well, more later. > > neil Things have been going fine although we have not heard much from George lately. :-) David From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 11 15:40:26 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168169-2>; Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:40:23 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Sun, 11 Oct 92 15:40:12 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.8.98]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:36:46 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA05555; Sun, 11 Oct 92 13:41:09 -0400 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.5v4); Sun, 11 Oct 92 13:19:23 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Fwd: [cwaite@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Christopher Waite)]Roland W-30 / Mac SCSI hookups Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 14:19:23 -0400 Cc: cwaite@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Sender: david@david.roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Reply-To: cwaite@uniwa.uwa.edu.au Message-Id: <0105009A.frmiql@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: R Forward of article <1b69uaINNh61@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> from cwaite@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Christopher Waite): Hello All Does anyone know of any software that will enable me to manage the W-30's memory from the Mac - I would like to be able to store sound, tone and patch data on the mac's hard disc and load the W-30 via SCSI, or, failing this, midi. Is possible? Also, is there any software or command set to enable Alchemy to transfer sound data via midi. Alchemy supports Roland's S 550 format, which the W-30 is supposed to be compatible with, but the W-30 does not appear to do data transfers without programming. If you can help at all, please reply to me direct as I will not have newsgroup access for some time. Thanks! Chris Waite Perth, Western Australia Email: cwaite@uniwa.uwa.edu.au From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 8 00:58:10 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168220-2>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:58:03 -0400 Received: from diemen.utas.edu.au ([131.217.1.19]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30761>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:56:54 -0400 Received: from ecc.tased.edu.au by diemen.utas.edu.au with SMTP id AA08456 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.CA); Thu, 8 Oct 92 15:56:11 +1100 Received: from ecc.tased.edu.au by ecc.tased.edu.au (PMDF #12099) id <01GPPMN6SZLS9AN285@ecc.tased.edu.au>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:56 +1000 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:56:00 -0400 From: Rodney Foley Subject: Anybody experienced with CD-ROM's ? To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <01GPPMN6SZLS9AN285@ecc.tased.edu.au> X-Envelope-To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.CA X-Vms-To: IN%"sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.CA" X-Vms-Cc: ECC_FOLEY Status: RO Hi, I currently own an Roland S-750 sampler, and I am contemplating attaching a CD-ROM to it. The CD-ROM that roland supplies is extreamly expensive , current list price in australia is Aus$3600, so what I would like to do is get a third party CD-ROM. My question is does anybody have any experience attaching a non-Roland CD-ROM onto a Roland sampler ( particularly S-750 or S-770). Also is there a big library of CD-ROM's available for the 750 and 770, here in Australia I have only seen 2 advertised. Any help greatly appreciated Rodney Foley ecc_foley@ecc.tased.edu.au From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 8 01:13:21 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168221-1>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:13:19 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 8 Oct 92 01:13:06 -0400 Received: from griffin.emba.uvm.edu ([132.198.1.11]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30762>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:12:12 -0400 Received: by griffin.emba.uvm.edu id AA14096 (5.65/1.11); Thu, 8 Oct 92 01:12:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:12:00 -0400 From: coan@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU Message-Id: <9210080512.AA14096@griffin.emba.uvm.edu> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: hard drive for the W-30? Status: RO Yo folx! I was wondering, can you hook up a hard drive to the W-30? I imagine you can. If so, what kind/brand is recommended? And also, what is the advantage of doing this: faster loading time? Brian coan@emba.uvm.edu From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 8 03:05:24 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168224-1>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:05:10 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 8 Oct 92 03:04:57 -0400 Received: from ucsd.edu ([132.239.1.1]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30756>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:04:13 -0400 Received: from sdcc13.ucsd.edu by ucsd.edu; id AA19352 sendmail 5.67/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Thu, 8 Oct 92 00:04:03 -0700 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Received: by sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (5.60/UCSDGENERIC2) id AA28956 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca; Thu, 8 Oct 92 00:04:09 PDT Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:04:09 -0400 From: email_addr@deleted (Mars) Message-Id: <9210080704.AA28956@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Any Roland DJ70 users out there??? Status: RO Any other Roland DJ70 users out there???? I know the DJ70 reads S550/330/750/770 and W30 disks but can these samplers read the DJ70 disks??? email_addr@deleted From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 8 08:06:31 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167966-3>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:06:25 -0400 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30756>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:00:29 -0400 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA14859; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:58:05 +0100 Received: from byse.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA16735; Thu, 8 Oct 92 12:58:01 +0100 Received: by byse.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA11784; Thu, 8 Oct 92 12:57:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:57:59 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210081157.AA11784@byse.nada.kth.se> To: ECC_FOLEY@ecc.tased.edu.au, sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Anybody experienced with CD-ROM's ? Status: RO Well, I have used a Toshiba with my S.750 - I originally had it for my Mac; I bought it for $600 or so from MacConnection. The make is CD Technology. However, I think you might get better results with a Sony drive; I think that's what's in the Roland unit, I had to do some fiddling with what I turned on in what order (and when to insert the disk) to get it to work. I have seen a few S-750 CDs, however, the S-750 can also import sounds from the S-550 CDs. / h+ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 8 08:18:48 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167966-3>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:18:41 -0400 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30762>; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:16:57 -0400 From: nastasi@mtuxo.att.com Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:11:00 -0400 To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Cc: nastasi@mtuxo.uucp Subject: S-220 Message-Id: <92Oct8.081657edt.30762@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO Hello from a new guy! I own a S-220 (not state of the art, but it works). I was wondering if anyone has any sysex experience with it. I have a HyperCard stack that will save and load samples to a Mac's hard disk (causing me to run out of space, of course, but it's better than those damn QD's :-) I wanted to access some of the editing functions and I am getting nowhere. I love Roland manuals - geez, I'd be shot for publishing documentation like that! BTW, I do know about the checksum deal. I also would like to hear from all of the S-220 (S-10 since it uses the same QD from hell :-). I hope I'm not the only one who owns a dinosoar... Cheers, Joe Nastasi AT&T, Middletown, NJ (908) 957-6365 7am-4pm EST M-F PS: yes, I'd be willing to distribute the stack to this group, if there is interest. I'd like to clean it up first. From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 7 17:06:47 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168220-2>; Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:06:37 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:06:32 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30756>; Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:59:59 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <168219-3>; Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:59:51 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Welcome to some new sgroup members Message-Id: <92Oct7.165951edt.168219-3@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:59:46 -0400 Status: RO Welcome to the new members on the list: Anders Wass Kenneth Nyholm Stan Sawyer Joe Nastasi fukunaga@husc.harvard.edu michael g moncur Maurice Shihadi Mikko Helin John From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 7 21:00:32 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168219-1>; Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:00:25 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:00:13 -0400 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30760>; Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:59:25 -0400 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA05564; Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:00:10 EDT Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA09449; Wed, 7 Oct 92 20:57:04 EDT Message-Id: <9210080057.AA09449@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: I'm Baaaack. Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:57:03 -0400 From: "neil herzinger" Status: RO No, it's not Ross Perot, it's me, neil! I'm back and I'm a bad grad student so watch out. Better put some content in here.....ummmm...well, I'll be around another 3 years, so I might have time to work on that Hypercard Stack, or something similar (for sample record keeping). I just might be able to squeeze a few more samples into the library as well. Got lots of stuff on DAT I need to transfer. Oh well, more later. neil From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 14 12:09:19 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168099-2>; Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:09:12 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 14 Oct 92 12:09:05 -0400 Received: from oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([131.1.101.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:02:32 -0400 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA14855; Wed, 14 Oct 92 09:01:40 -0700 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.51/smail2.5/12-18-87) id AA14852; Wed, 14 Oct 92 09:01:34 PDT Return-Path: Received: by cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA28647; Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:58:22 GMT Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:58:22 -0400 From: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9210141558.AA28647@cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: WANTED : Roland Samplers Infos Cc: borzieir@cavour.ATC.Olivetti.Com Status: R Hi, My name is Ivan Borzieri, I'm italian,I'm new to this mailing list. I don't own a Roand sampler for now, but I want to get one (used, in Italy prices are VERY high !). My current setup is : Amiga500 Plus, 9 Mbytes RAM, 324 MBytes HD. I use midi software with my Roland D5 and Yamaha TX81Z. For samples, I use the Amiga, which is good, but limited to eight bit samples and 4 voices (mono) or 2 voices (stereo). I'd like to receive infos on Roland samplers, so that I can choose the one I need for what I want to do (mainly house-techno, but other kinds of music are welcomed). So, guys ! Write all you know about your machine, and how much you are satisfiedwith it, how many samples are there for your machine, etc. Thanks, Ivan From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 14 19:46:55 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168172-2>; Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:46:49 -0400 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30759>; Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:40:06 -0400 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA22453; Wed, 14 Oct 92 19:40:58 EDT Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA26985; Wed, 14 Oct 92 19:37:56 EDT Message-Id: <9210142337.AA26985@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: WANTED : Roland Samplers Infos In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 14 Oct 92 12:58:22 EDT." <9210141558.AA28647@cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:37:55 -0400 From: "neil herzinger" Status: R Hey Ivan, welcome to the sgroup. I personally own the S-50 which is the oldest of the sample family and not available anymore (except used). You might be able to find one used at a decent price, but it may be worth your while to look at the W-30 (same sampler, more workstation features). If you don't need a keyboard there's the S-550 (also not being made anymore) and the S-750/770. Each is more expensive/powerful. I've been very happy with the S50, although it's not the most-up-to-date sampler available now. As far as samples go, there's the roland factory library for the S50/550 and the every growing (slowly...) sgroup user library. I don't know about stuff for the 700 group, but others could tell you I'm sure. (I know I didn't mention the S-10 etc... Are they discontinued too?) neil From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 14 20:46:57 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168180-3>; Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:46:52 -0400 Received: from ac.dal.ca ([129.173.1.100]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30765>; Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:40:27 -0400 Received: from AC.DAL.CA by AC.DAL.CA (PMDF #2545 ) id <01GPYC7ZU68W009WRT@AC.DAL.CA>; Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:39:41 -0300 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:39:40 -0400 From: Ray MacNeil Subject: Trade an S-50 for an S-550?? To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01GPYC7ZUFW2009WRT@AC.DAL.CA> X-VMS-To: IN%"sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: R Q. Do all you Americans, (and other nationalities other than Canadians), have any idea that your sgroup mail is being re-distributed from a computer in the country with the worst contitutional problems of any in the world?? Do you care?? How will I vote on the contitutional deal? Depends if I can trade someone for my S-550. Here's my deal. I need an S-50 and would like to trade someone for an S-550. As Neil said... better to have an S-50 on the road than an S-550 and another keyboard, (efficiency is the key). Anyone interested in talking, drop me a line. Vive le Quebec...8:) Ray MacNeil Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 14 21:41:59 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168172-1>; Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:41:52 -0400 Received: from husc8.harvard.edu ([128.103.25.8]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30765>; Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:38:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:37:01 -0400 From: henrik@husc.harvard.edu Message-Id: <9210150137.AA16283@husc8.harvard.edu> To: ARPRAYM@AC.DAL.CA Cc: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: Ray MacNeil's message of Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:39:40 -0400 <01GPYC7ZUFW2009WRT@AC.DAL.CA> Status: R You want to trade? I might be interested. I have keyboards coming out my ears as it is, and it would be nice to have one fewer. larry... From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 00:14:28 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168172-1>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:14:19 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.8.98]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30814>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:12:07 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA11217; Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:11:43 -0400 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.5v4); Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:26:07 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Trade an S-50 for an S-550?? Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:26:07 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-Id: <0105009A.g4n8er@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: R In Regards to your letter <01GPYC7ZUFW2009WRT@AC.DAL.CA>: > > Q. Do all you Americans, (and other nationalities other than Canadians), have > any idea that your sgroup mail is being re-distributed from a computer in the > country with the worst contitutional problems of any in the world?? > Do you care?? Sure we care. This is the sgroup. We care about *everything*! Just tell us what you are talking about. David david@roth-music.com Westerville, Ohio USA From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 00:15:08 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168172-2>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:15:05 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.8.98]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30816>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:13:53 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA11223; Thu, 15 Oct 92 00:11:47 -0400 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.5v4); Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:38:08 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: I got my Roland free CD in the mail today. Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:38:08 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-Id: <0105009A.g4nv0t@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: R I got my free Roland CD in the mail today by responding to an ad a couple of weeks ago. It's titled: ROLAND SAMPLE ARCHIVES, S-770 & S-750 DEMO DISC. It contains 30 tracks of short pieces to demo the S-770 Roland Sampler. The sound sources are from the Rolans Sample Archives CD-ROM Libraries and the examples used on this disk are from L-CD701 Rhythm Section Vol. I, L-CD702 Orchestral Family Vol. I. Also, ProSonus(tm) Roland S-770 Vol. 1 Orchestral Strings. I was wondering, are any of these samples available for use on the Roland S-330 ? I've heard that sample created on S-330/S-550 can be used on the S-770 but can then be converted to be used on the S-330. Anyone know? Anyone done this? If so, how do they sound on the 12-bit samplers? My own personal review of the percussion on the CD DEMO is good but not light years above the Roland R8 Drum Machine. I am only talking about sound quality not in the number of sounds available. By the way, I saw in the latest Roland Users Group Magazine that a time of ROM burner for creating your own ROM cards! For the R8 I thought that would be really useful, however, I wish there was simply a way to do this via the MIDI sample dump. Ok, I admit it. I don't like firmware only as a source for sounds. I thought I would let you folks know. David david@roth-music.com From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 07:49:20 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168004-3>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:49:08 -0400 Received: from ac.dal.ca ([129.173.1.100]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30759>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:47:37 -0400 Received: from AC.DAL.CA by AC.DAL.CA (PMDF #2545 ) id <01GPYZF7EPIU009AXA@AC.DAL.CA>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:46:22 -0300 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:46:22 -0400 From: Ray MacNeil Subject: The Canadian Constitution (was re:Trade an S-50 for an S-550) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Message-id: <01GPYZF7EPIW009AXA@AC.DAL.CA> X-VMS-To: IN%"sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: R David A. Roth recently responded... >> Q. Do all you Americans, (and other nationalities other than Canadians), have >> any idea that your sgroup mail is being re-distributed from a computer in the >> country with the worst contitutional problems of any in the world?? >> Do you care?? >Sure we care. This is the sgroup. We care about *everything*! >Just tell us what you are talking about. >David >david@roth-music.com >Westerville, Ohio >USA Contrary to David's eagerness to learn more about Canada, this isn't the place to discuss this item. Suffice to say that the constitution of Canada is in the midst of being overhauled and has sparked a vociferous debate up here, occupying was seems to be every waking moment. Don't flame me for being off topic. I was asked to respond to the group with a short reply. This is as short as I can make 125 years of history. Incidentally, the 'Do you care?' thing was a joke. Sorry I forgot the smiley. Ray From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 08:28:01 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168004-3>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:27:57 -0400 Received: from oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([131.1.101.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:26:55 -0400 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA00306; Thu, 15 Oct 92 05:26:43 -0700 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.51/smail2.5/12-18-87) id AA00303; Thu, 15 Oct 92 05:26:39 PDT Return-Path: Received: by cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA09456; Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:23:25 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:23:25 -0400 From: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9210151223.AA09456@cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Found used S50 Status: R Well, thanks to all have replied to my mail about Samplers Info. I found a used S-50 with monitor for around 900-950 us $ (it depends on lira/US$ change rate :)). Is it a good price ? On saturday I'll get to see it, and then decide. Now, as I do not have much money, I'm thinking about giving away : - Amiga sampler (I don't need it anymore :)) - Roland D5 - Yamaha TX81Z Would the sampler alone be sufficient to create songs ? Is it better to keep at least one gear ? I'd like to keep the D5, but it's a keyboard. I think the TX81Z is not so useful (old kind stuff). Bye, Ivan From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 08:44:36 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168004-2>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:44:29 -0400 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.129]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30759>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:43:40 -0400 From: wbf@alux2.att.com Received: by alux2 (/\../\ Smail3.1.14.4 #14.2) id ; Thu, 15 Oct 92 08:34 EDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:34:00 -0400 Original-From: wbf@alux2 (Fox) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Status: R Subject: David got a free Roland CD in the mail yesterday. > I got my free Roland CD in the mail today by responding to an ad a > couple of weeks ago. It's titled: ROLAND SAMPLE ARCHIVES, S-770 & > S-750 DEMO DISC. What ad? In what publication did it appear? Have you tried making samples from it on your S-330? Bill From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 10:00:18 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168007-1>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:00:10 -0400 Received: from griffin.emba.uvm.edu ([132.198.1.11]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30759>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:58:49 -0400 Received: by griffin.emba.uvm.edu id AA01819 (5.65/1.11); Thu, 15 Oct 92 09:58:22 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:58:22 -0400 From: coan@uvm-gen.EMBA.UVM.EDU Message-Id: <9210151358.AA01819@griffin.emba.uvm.edu> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: set all velocities on W-30?? Status: R Yo folx! Hey, is there no command in the W-30 sequencer to set all velocities?? Here's my problem: I'm using a shitty old TR-505 to sequence in some funky synth bass-lines. But, in the W-30, the velocities all register as 48...I want them at 127! So, I'm forced to micro-edit every note in the track! :( Oh well, life's tough sometimes....but is there no way to set them all at once? With Eye Strain From Micro Edit, Brian coan@emba.uvm.edu From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 11:54:12 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168196-1>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:54:04 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 15 Oct 92 11:53:55 -0400 Received: from oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([131.1.101.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30759>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:51:33 -0400 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA02284; Thu, 15 Oct 92 08:50:28 -0700 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.51/smail2.5/12-18-87) id AA02280; Thu, 15 Oct 92 08:50:23 PDT Return-Path: Received: by cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA11066; Thu, 15 Oct 92 16:46:51 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:46:51 -0400 From: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9210151546.AA11066@cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Some more Questions... Status: R Some more questions : - Which is the latest S-50 Rom revision number ? I'd like to know it, so that I can eventually play on this item to reduce the price if I buy the used S-50 I found ... - By reading sample offers on magazines, it seems to me that S-50/S-550/W-30 can load/exchange samples data between them. If so, why does the sample database on taipan is divided in three groups (S-50/S-550/W-30) ? I ftp'ed samdisk and tried it on the file "goodies1.sdk". It seems to work fine (did not try it on the sampler, though:)). - As the disk I put in my PC was MS-DOS formatted, I assume that Roland samplers disks are formatted in the same way as MS-DOS ones. Is that true ? - If the method above works, why the disks from Sgroup Library aren't stored on taipan ? Or they are ? - Maybe someone wrote a guideline on "How to obtain the perfect sample", or knows how to. Could he/she put a file on taipan explaining it ? :)))) Sorry, I started with ONE or TWO questions in mind, and ended up with : 5 !!!! If I get the sampler, I promise I'll upload tons of samples ! Bye, Ivan From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 12:22:25 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168193-2>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:22:20 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.8.98]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:17:43 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA15978; Thu, 15 Oct 92 12:11:09 -0400 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.5v4); Thu, 15 Oct 92 11:29:30 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: The Canadian Constitution (was re:Trade an S-50 for an S-550) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:29:30 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-Id: <0105009A.g61kq9@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: R In Regards to your letter <01GPYZF7EPIW009AXA@AC.DAL.CA>: > > David A. Roth recently responded... > > >> Q. Do all you Americans, (and other nationalities other than Canadians), have > >> any idea that your sgroup mail is being re-distributed from a computer in the > >> country with the worst contitutional problems of any in the world?? > >> Do you care?? > > >Sure we care. This is the sgroup. We care about *everything*! > >Just tell us what you are talking about. > > >David > >david@roth-music.com > >Westerville, Ohio > >USA > > Contrary to David's eagerness to learn more about Canada, this isn't the place > to discuss this item. Suffice to say that the constitution of Canada is > in the midst of being overhauled and has sparked a vociferous debate up here, > occupying was seems to be every waking moment. Certainly this is the place to discuss this. Everyone knows that all govenmental problems, just like anything else stem from the fact that there are not enough good quality samples that people can access easily. Access itself is only part of the problem though, its how they are cataloged and grouped according to their sound vs usefulness. This is why Neil wrote the Hypercard program to help out with this problem in our ever lasting quest for better governments and world peace. So, as you can see, this topic is nail on the head ripe to be discussed in the sgroup. > > Don't flame me for being off topic. I was asked to respond to the group with a > short reply. This is as short as I can make 125 years of history. > > Incidentally, the 'Do you care?' thing was a joke. Sorry I forgot the smiley. Oh? It was? > > Ray David :-) From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 12:43:57 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168193-1>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:43:46 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.8.98]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30767>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:42:21 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA16197; Thu, 15 Oct 92 12:41:39 -0400 Received: by david.roth-music.com (uA-1.5v4); Thu, 15 Oct 92 12:22:13 EST From: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: How to get your free Roland CD demo. (where I saw the ad) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:22:13 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) Message-Id: <0105009A.g64nlc@david.roth-music.com> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: R In Regards to your letter : > > Subject: David got a free Roland CD in the mail yesterday. > > > I got my free Roland CD in the mail today by responding to an ad a > > couple of weeks ago. It's titled: ROLAND SAMPLE ARCHIVES, S-770 & > > S-750 DEMO DISC. > > What ad? In what publication did it appear? In the October 1992 issue of Mix Magazine on page 128-129 there is an ad for the S-770. It says the following at the bottom of the ad on page 129: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Corporation US, Dept. S-770 7200 Dominion Circle Los Angeles, CA 90040-3647 (213) 685-5141, ext. 315 Call or write us for a free S-770/S-750 demo CD. ------------------------------------------------------------------- I sent them a postcard instead of calling. > Have you tried making > samples from it on your S-330? It's not a sampling CD, but a demo of small pieces using the S-770 most of them composed and performed by Eric Persing. The demo CD is promoting their CD-ROM libraries and the new S-700 series. Bill, you got your wish. They make a S-700 which is a playback sampler only! David From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 13:25:12 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168192-1>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:25:06 -0400 Received: from oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([131.1.101.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:23:10 -0400 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA00507; Thu, 15 Oct 92 10:21:41 -0700 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.51/smail2.5/12-18-87) id AA00504; Thu, 15 Oct 92 10:21:37 PDT Return-Path: Received: by cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA11564; Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:18:25 GMT Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:18:25 -0400 From: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9210151718.AA11564@cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Reply to Pete - Ftp site Item Status: R !r AboutSamDisk In reply to Pete's mail : - S-50 and S-550 disk format differs because they are different machines in some way (i.e. : they have different parameters), or it's just the way Roland designers thought to organize them which is different ? I really hope it's the first one... - If the problem for sending files to an ftp site is that it would take a lot of time, you can create a command file and do the work in background (on multitasking machines (Amiga, Sun, Unix Hosts, NO PC, NO MACS, NO ATARI). If it's time=money matter, that's different, you are right. - About a ftp site which has lots of space to hold data : If I could, I'd organize one today, here at Olivetti ! The problem is not disk space, but Olivetti sites are protected from access outside certain addresses ! There is a site (you probably know it) called "ucsd.edu" which stores midi data. If we could get in touch with somebody there and ask them if it would be possible to put stuff at their site... Or does sgroup have some reason for which it does not want to spread samples to people who don't belong to it ? I'd like very much to put up or find such a site, because to swap disks from surface mail would take a lot of time for me that live in Italy ! (and could be more expensive than get disks here in the shops or from private users ! I saw many ads on magazines about people selling disks for ROland Samplers, at a price of about 5 US $ each !) . Another solution could be sampling samples by myself (I think I'll do it anyway), taking them from Samples CD's. I just sent a fax the other to England, to ask info about 2 CD's with a stunning 3023 Techno/House samples at a price of ~180 US $ (79 UK pounds). Bye, Ivan From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 15:09:28 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168192-1>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:09:25 -0400 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:07:31 -0400 From: wbf@alux2.att.com Received: by alux2 (/\../\ Smail3.1.14.4 #14.2) id ; Thu, 15 Oct 92 14:57 EDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:57:00 -0400 Original-From: wbf@alux2 (Fox) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Status: R Subject: A Possible Answer and a Question of My Own Ivan wrote: > - By reading sample offers on magazines, it seems to me that > S-50/S-550/W-30 can load/exchange samples data between them. > > If so, why does the sample database on taipan is divided in three > groups (S-50/S-550/W-30) ? Possible Answer: First there was the S50. Then there was the S550. Finally, there was the W30. This order is significant as I think that Roland came up with new disk formats each time... I know that the S550 can read S50 disks but you must use the convertion program to do so. I'm not sure if the S50 can read an S550 disk. That may have changed in recent years. I know that a W30 can write a disk in S550 format but I think that it must be explicitly told to use that format. I don't think that the S50 or S550 can read a W30 disk. If anybody can check these statements, please do. My Question: Please tell me about this taipan sample database. May I access it? How do I access it? New Subject: set all velocities on W-30?? Hi Brian, Isn't the TR505 a drum machine? How do you use it to sequence some funky synth bass lines? Are you setting its note numbers so that you know that bass drum is a certain pitch, etc.? Anyway, to solve your problem, I'd need to make some assumptions about the W30's sequencer. Is it a pattern style sequencer a la drum machines, where you program patterns and then go into song mode to string the patterns into a list to create a song? If so, check out the song mode editing features. I have Director-S software running on my S550 and it can globally change velocity to any track(s) you desire, over the entire song. not just a note or pattern at a time. Bill Fox From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 17:52:33 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168192-3>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:52:30 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 15 Oct 92 17:52:29 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30759>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:49:29 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <168003-1>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:49:12 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: Reply to Pete - Ftp site Item Message-Id: <92Oct15.174912edt.168003-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:49:02 -0400 Status: R | From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 13:25:12 1992 | From: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) | To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca | Subject: Reply to Pete - Ftp site Item | | !r AboutSamDisk | In reply to Pete's mail : | | - About a ftp site which has lots of space to hold data : | | I'd like very much to put up or find such a site, because The introductory material does mention that there are samples stored on taipan.uwaterloo.ca available for ftp ... From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 18:02:04 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168003-3>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:02:02 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30767>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:00:59 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <168003-2>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:00:30 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca, wbf@alux2.att.com Subject: access to taipan anonymous ftp sample archive Message-Id: <92Oct15.180030edt.168003-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:00:24 -0400 Status: R | From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 15:09:28 1992 | From: wbf@alux2.att.com | Original-From: wbf@alux2 (Fox) | To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca | | My Question: | Please tell me about this taipan sample database. May I access it? How | do I access it? It's only accessible via anonymous ftp. Ftp to taipan.uwaterloo.ca, sign on as "anonymous", use your userid as password, and look in the directory ~/pub/sgroup/samples. From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 15 18:15:46 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168003-2>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:15:38 -0400 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:14:32 -0400 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA15412; Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:15:09 EDT Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA18721; Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:12:01 EDT Message-Id: <9210152212.AA18721@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Tons o' Answers Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:12:00 -0400 From: "neil herzinger" Status: R Well maybe not tons... >>> I found a used S-50 with monitor for around 900-950 us $ (it depends on lira/US$ change rate :)). Is it a good price ? >>> I'd say that sounds like a good deal. I bought my S-50 used a few years ago and it cost me $1400 US, I saw one about a year later for about $950. I don't think it has devalued much more than that. As far as your other equipment goes, that's really a personal decision. The best thing about samplers is they can produce practically every sound. They don't have the programming ability of a synth, but if you can only chose one piece of equipment, I'd say the sampler. >>> - By reading sample offers on magazines, it seems to me that S-50/S-550/W-30 can load/exchange samples data between them. -If so, why does the sample database on taipan is divided in three groups (S-50/S-550/W-30) ? >>> The S-550 can read S-50 disks as can the W-30. The S-50 can read S-550 disks through the use of a conversion program (separate from the system). I believe there is a copy of this utility program in the library. If not, I've got it. Re: Canada -> You think you got problems? Sheesh...... :-) Actually some of my favorite things are Canadian: The Kids in the Hall, Skinny Puppy, Martin Short, Bob and Doug, Rush..... :-) >>> would be possible to put stuff at their site... Or does sgroup have some reason for which it does not want to spread samples to people who don't belong to it ? >>> No way! Samples for the People! >>> program to do so. I'm not sure if the S50 can read an S550 disk. That may have changed in recent years. >>> See above. The S-50 can't read W-30 disks though. neil From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 09:36:18 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167985-3>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:36:13 -0400 Received: from oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([131.1.101.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:27:38 -0400 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA13183; Fri, 16 Oct 92 06:26:18 -0700 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.51/smail2.5/12-18-87) id AA13180; Fri, 16 Oct 92 06:26:14 PDT Return-Path: Received: by cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA23616; Fri, 16 Oct 92 14:22:59 GMT Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:22:59 -0400 From: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9210161322.AA23616@cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Problems in compiling utils /Msg To Neil H. / Msg to GJM / Status: RO Well, I'm here again ... I downloaded the utilities from taipan, but when I try to compile sources, I get lots of errors. I'm trying to compile them on a Sun WS running Unix Berkeley (4.3 ?). By looking at the code (I'm not a C expert) it seems to me that there are strange things , like pointer declaration written in this way : byte * pointer ^ | this should not be near "pointer", without the blank between them ? Are these utilities intended to be compiled on a particular machine ? Which one ? ************************************************************************ To Neil : I did not found the utility you mention in your post. Could you please upload it ? ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ To GJM (sorry, I remember your login name only:) It would be good to have Roland->Amiga8SVX converter, but Roland->8BitRaw is good as well. Just take ProTracker (PD) or a commercial sampling software, or a sample converter (there are many in PD), and convert from Raw to IFF. YOU GOT IT ! ************************************************************************ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 09:54:31 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168201-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:54:23 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 09:54:16 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30757>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:53:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:48:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan Cc: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Subject: Re: S50 Info Received: from usl by usl.com; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:48 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1538 Message-Id: <92Oct16.095334edt.30757@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO Ivan had some questions about the S samplers. A quick list: Feature S-50 S-330 S-550 ======================================================================== Keyboard YES NO NO Sample Memory 14.4 secs@ 14.4 sec@ 28.8 secs @ 30Mhz smplng 30Mhz smplng 30Mhz smpling rate* rate* rate* Patch memory 8 16 16 (?) not sure Mouse Functionality NO YES YES Video port YES YES YES SCSI support available NO 3rd party from Roland Filtering BASIC YES YES READ S-50 YES with conversion ditto utility included with OS. READ S-550/S-330 with library YES YES converter (SYS-505 from Roland)** READ W-30 NO NO NO * - 2X sampling time at the 15 Mhz sampling rate ** - This is a product that Roland has the gall to sell. So, whereas I do own this program, I can't just distribute it willy nilly. Of course, if you happened to let a disk fall into my hands and I just happen to MISTAKENLY make a copy of it and I ACCIDENTALLY mail it back to you, well, who could blame us!! :-) This program also allows you to load patches + tones from a disk rather than each separately as you must now. It will also save S-50 disks to S-330 disks although you can't format S-330 disks. Yes, Roland software designers are shitheads... ======================================================================== I know there are other differences, but these are the major ones. Some may be inaccurate, anyone out there feel free to clarify. From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 10:35:25 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167985-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:35:24 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 10:35:18 -0400 Received: from ifi.uio.no ([129.240.64.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:34:07 -0400 Received: from gyda.ifi.uio.no by ifi.uio.no with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:33:27 +0100 From: Thomas Flemming Received: by gyda.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:33:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:33:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199210161433.AAgyda.ifi.uio.no23839@gyda.ifi.uio.no> To: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com Cc: sgroup@taipan In-Reply-To: Ivan Borzieri's message of Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:22:59 -0400 <9210161322.AA23616@cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> Subject: Re: Problems in compiling utils /Msg To Neil H. / Msg to GJM / Status: RO I've had the same problem on sun4 and sun3. Fortunate enough I have access to a DecStation, and it compiles perfectly. BTW! I think prof. Terje Finstad, here at the University of Oslo, has made an utility to transfer disk-image files into AIFF interchangeable format and the other way around. It also transfer loop points. PS! Is there anyone out there currently running a hard disk with the W-30. Last time I played some of the crowd was shouting 'harddisk harddisk'. If I buy a standard harddisk, and the SCSI interface doesn't cost to much, it might be a solution. I could use the harddisk even if I sell the W-30. I won't be satisfied with 28 secs. sampling time forever you know. Thomas Flemming From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 11:36:29 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168204-2>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:36:22 -0400 Received: from watserv2.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.128.100]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30757>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:34:31 -0400 Received: from UICVM.UIC.EDU ([128.248.2.50]) by watserv2.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167983>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:34:12 -0400 Received: from BRUFSC.BITNET by UICVM.UIC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 2245; Fri, 16 Oct 92 10:32:44 CDT Received: by BRUFSC (Mailer R2.08) id 4665; Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:08:10 BSC Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:13:17 -0400 From: Flavio Bressan <87141167%BRUFSC.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU> Subject: Answers and questions To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <92Oct16.113412edt.167983@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO Hello Folx, Here are my contribuitions: - S50/S550/W30/S330 compatibility of disks: S50 S550 W30 S330 S50 R,S RCOS,?S NR,NS NR,NS S550 R,?S R,S ?R,?S ?R,?S W30 RC,NS RC,SC R,S R,S S330 R,NS R,S R,S R,S R = Read this format. S = Save in this format. NR = No read this format. NS = No save in this format. RC = Read with converter program in the system disk. SC = Save with converter program in the system disk. RCOS = Read, but with converter program out of system disk. ?R, ?S = I don't know if load or if save this format. Then, to S50 read a W30/S330 disk, you must have a W30, save the sounds in S550 format, get the converter program to S50 read the disk (in S550 format). This are the lastest info that I have. If there is some error at chart please excuse me. The order of release was S50, S550, W30, S330. At W30 manual, there is a chart of compatibility that I could put here (only next monday.. I'm at university). Seems that the diferences between the machines is because the number of the tones stored at memory. - Getting out of W30 micro-edit: At side of microedit function key, there is other called EDIT. This key opens a menu with 2 pages. The first have the common edit functions (copy, erase, insert measure, delete measure) and a key to 2nd page. At 2nd page, you will find transpose, velocity scaling, channel change, and others. All this functions have NOTE RANGE parameter (then you don't need micro-edit each note to change the velocity, midi channel, to transpose, etc). Give a look at manual to find this functions. Is isn't so bad... I already saw worst manuals from Roland. I think that they are turning better... slow... too slow...but better. :-) And the W30 sequencer is linear, not pattern. There is loop recor ding, but no loop playing. Here are my question/doubts: - I ftped SAMDISK, but I had swap some characters (; = tab and more two, here called COLCHETES. There are {}, COLCHETES and () , do you get the thing? Then, I compiled the source and not works. Must be SAMDISK downloaded in binary format? I suspect that I ftped it in ASCII format. The same trouble with SAMLABEL. A hug for all, Flavio /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FLAVIO BRESSAN - 87141167@BRUFSC | IF YOU WANT TO SEND YOUR MUSIC TO GRAD IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING | MY RADIO SHOW, PLEASE SEND, IN RE- FADERAL UNIVERSITY OF SANTA CATARINA| GISTERED MAIL, TO: ------------------------------------| FLAVIO BRESSAN | R AFONSO PENA, 987 - ESTREITO | 88070-650 - FPOLIS - SC - BRASIL \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 14:33:17 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168204-3>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:33:14 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 14:33:09 -0400 Received: from ifi.uio.no ([129.240.64.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30760>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:25:52 -0400 Received: from gamle.ifi.uio.no by ifi.uio.no with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:24:57 +0100 From: Thomas Flemming Received: by gamle.ifi.uio.no ; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:24:56 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:24:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199210161824.AAgamle.ifi.uio.no17509@gamle.ifi.uio.no> To: 87141167%BRUFSC.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU Cc: sgroup@taipan In-Reply-To: Flavio Bressan's message of Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:13:17 -0400 <92Oct16.113412edt.167983@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Subject: Re: Answers and questions Status: R I have some small corrections; W-30 can read and write S-50, and don't need converter for S550. Looks like it's the most compatible sampler. - S50/S550/W30/S330 compatibility of disks: S50 S550 W30 S330 S50 R,S RCOS,?S NR,NS NR,NS S550 R,?S R,S ?R,?S ?R,?S W30 RC,SC R,S R,S R,S S330 R,NS R,S R,S R,S R = Read this format. S = Save in this format. NR = No read this format. NS = No save in this format. RC = Read with converter program in the system disk. SC = Save with converter program in the system disk. RCOS = Read, but with converter program out of system disk. ?R, ?S = I don't know if load or if save this format. The converter for W-30 is on the system-disk. Thomas Flemming BTW! Today the first snow fall came 8-( I wish I could be Brazil... From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 14:53:50 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168201-2>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:53:40 -0400 Received: from mailgate.ericsson.se ([130.100.2.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30761>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:52:30 -0400 Received: from ericom (ericom.ericsson.se) by mailgate.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.1-MAILGATE1.10) id AA29311; Fri, 16 Oct 92 19:51:39 +0100 Received: from ebu.ericsson.se by ericom (4.1/SMI-4.0-ERICOM1.9) id AA21006; Fri, 16 Oct 92 19:51:18 +0100 Received: from calvin.EBU by ebu.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA17395; Fri, 16 Oct 92 11:49:54 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:49:54 -0400 From: ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se (Mike Rembis 6259) Message-Id: <9210161849.AA17395@ebu.ericsson.se> To: sgroup%taipan.uwaterloo.ca@ericom.ericsson.se Subject: S330 vs S550 Status: R Looking at the recent charts posted by gfd@usl.com (George Demarest), I now wonder are there other differences between the two units other than just the sample size (Time) and Roland-installed SCSI port ? Can anyone elaborate ? | From sgroup-owner@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Fri Oct 16 06:53:43 1992 | From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) | To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca | Cc: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) | Subject: Re: S50 Info | Content-Type| : | text| | Content-Length: 1538 | X-Lines: 59 | | Ivan had some questions about the S samplers. A quick list: | | | | Feature S-50 S-330 S-550 | ======================================================================== | | Keyboard YES NO NO | | Sample Memory 14.4 secs@ 14.4 sec@ 28.8 secs @ | 30Mhz smplng 30Mhz smplng 30Mhz smpling | rate* rate* rate* ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | | Patch memory 8 16 16 (?) not sure | | | Mouse Functionality NO YES YES | | Video port YES YES YES | | SCSI support available NO 3rd party from Roland ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | | | Filtering BASIC YES YES | | | | READ S-50 YES with conversion ditto | utility included | with OS. | | READ S-550/S-330 with library YES YES | converter | (SYS-505 from | Roland)** | | READ W-30 NO NO NO | | | | * - 2X sampling time at the 15 Mhz sampling rate | | ** - This is a product that Roland has the gall to sell. So, --- Mike Rembis | Internet: mike.rembis@ebu.ericsson.se Ericsson Business Communications, Inc. | UUCP: uunet!ericsson.com!mike.rembis ````````````````Reality is in the Eye of the Beholder''''''''''''''' From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 15:07:59 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168201-2>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:07:51 -0400 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30815>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:06:42 -0400 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <168201-2>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:06:20 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com, sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Problems in compiling utils /Msg To Neil H. / Msg to GJM / Message-Id: <92Oct16.150620edt.168201-2@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:06:13 -0400 Status: R | From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 09:36:18 1992 | From: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) | To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca | Subject: Problems in compiling utils /Msg To Neil H. / Msg to GJM / | | I downloaded the utilities from taipan, but when I try to compile sources, | I get lots of errors. | | I'm trying to compile them on a Sun WS running Unix Berkeley (4.3 ?). SunOS, not Berkeley actually I bet. The utilities need an ANSI C compiler. The stock Sun compiler is not ANSI, your machine might have gcc (GNU CC) which is ANSI. | Are these utilities intended to be compiled on a particular machine ? Nope - just needs ANSI C. From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 16:16:22 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168204-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:16:17 -0400 Received: from apple.com ([130.43.2.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30817>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:13:17 -0400 Received: by apple.com (5.61/7-Aug-1992-eef) id AA17876; Fri, 16 Oct 92 13:06:59 -0700 for Received: from nlp4.UUCP by nli.com (4.1/nli.com(V1.0)) id AA02146; Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:42:00 PDT Received: from nlp16.nli.com (nlp16.ARPA) by nlp4 (4.1/nli(V1.0)) id AA24525; Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:16:54 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:16:54 -0400 From: stan@nli.com (Stan Sawyer) Message-Id: <9210161916.AA24525@nlp4> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca, wbf@alux2.att.com Subject: Re: stuff Status: RO >I'm not sure if the S50 can read an S550 disk. Yes. With the required conversion program. >Bill Fox Stan Sawyer From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 16:20:43 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168201-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:20:33 -0400 Received: from gould.encore.com ([129.91.131.1]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30818>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:18:48 -0400 Received: from ranger.encore.COM by gould.encore.com with SMTP id AA27691 (5.64+/UK-2.1-920501); Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:17:51 -0400 Received: by ranger.encore.com id AA08433 (5.54/UK-2.1-910806); Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:18:54 EDT From: Don Law Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:18:54 -0400 Message-Id: <8433.9210162018@ranger.encore.com> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: S50 Info Status: RO > Feature S-50 S-330 S-550 Hey! Doesn't anybody care about the S-10 anymore? 49 key velocity sensitive keyboard About 4 or 5 seconds of sampling at 30Khz I'll admit this can't touch the 30Mhz (Megahertz) rate posted by George for the S-X X>10 samplers! 8-) 4 fixed banks of sample, arrangeable in most permutations No mouse, video, or SCSI. Filters: basic digital (offline) LowPass and HiPass The Amazing QuikDisc - so revolutionary that it is incompatible with everything except the Smith Corona Typewriter! -- Don Law dlaw@gould.encore.com -- Ada Development, MS404 ...!uunet!gould!dlaw -- Encore Computer Corporation -- 6901 West Sunrise Blvd. ***** In the computer lab, ***** -- Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33313 ***** No one can hear you scream. ***** From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 16:50:15 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168206-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:50:11 -0400 Received: from bcars520 ([192.58.194.73]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30816>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:48:36 -0400 X400-Received: by mta bcars520 in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:47:13 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:46:44 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:45:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:45:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /DD.ID=1577285/G=Shiv/I=S/S=Naimpally/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.157:16.09.92.20.46.44] Original-Encoded-Information-Types: ia5, undefined X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: editor/librar... From: "Shiv (S.) Naimpally" Message-ID: <"175 Fri Oct 16 16:46:52 1992"@bnr.ca> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: editor/librarians Status: RO Hi, I'd like some reccomendations for an Atari or Mac sample editor/librarian. I have had with swapping disks and want to put all the samples on a hard disk and load using the computer. How long to sample dumps to an S330 take using Midi sample dump ? cheers, Shiv From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 16:52:32 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168206-3>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:52:29 -0400 Received: from research.att.com ([192.20.225.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30820>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:50:07 -0400 From: gjm@research.att.com Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:49:00 -0400 To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca, sgroup-owner@taipan.uwaterloo.ca (Ivan Borzieri) Subject: Re: Problems in compiling utils /Msg To Neil H. / Msg to GJM / Message-Id: <92Oct16.165007edt.30820@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO Ivan: Like John, my guess is that you have an old compiler that doesn't like function prototypes. The utilities should work with most compilers that understand function prototypes, including ANSI-C-compatible compilers. As for the "strange" declarations, white-space is not significant in C except for certain multiple-character operator tokens (e.g. "--" decrement vs. "- -" subract negated expression). My style choice for structure members is to prefer (where possible) single declarations and spacings that clarify the types of the identifiers. -Gary From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 17:11:04 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168207-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:11:01 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:10:51 -0400 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30821>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:08:56 -0400 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA28480; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:08:12 +0100 Received: from dront.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA15052; Fri, 16 Oct 92 22:08:10 +0100 Received: by dront.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA25893; Fri, 16 Oct 92 22:07:48 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:07:48 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210162107.AA25893@dront.nada.kth.se> To: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com Subject: Re: Problems in compiling utils /Msg To Neil H. / Msg to GJM / Cc: sgroup@taipan Status: RO > By looking at the code (I'm not a C expert) it seems to me that there are > strange things , like pointer declaration written in this way : > byte * pointer > this should not be near "pointer", without the > blank between them ? In C, there is no real difference if you put whitespace between tokens or not, as long as it dies not become a new token. Note that the problems you might have might be that 1) "byte" is not defined on your machine, or you have not included sys/types.h 2) You try to compile ANSI C code with an old-style cc. Try with gcc instead of cc (if you use make, do make CC=gcc ...) Cheers, / h+ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 17:13:39 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168207-2>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:13:35 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:13:21 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30819>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:10:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:04:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan Illegal-Object: Syntax error in To: address found on taipan.uwaterloo.ca: To: (S.) Naimpally" " ^ ^-missing closing '"' in token \-extraneous tokens in address Subject: Re: editor/librarians Received: from usl by usl.com; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:04 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 235 Message-Id: <92Oct16.171054edt.30819@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO I have been using Digidesign SD II for a while. Sample transfer does not seem appreciably faster than loading from disks. Acutally, it seems slower. I don't know about specific librarians for the S-series samplers though. gfd From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 17:20:24 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168207-2>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:20:21 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:20:17 -0400 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30824>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:17:47 -0400 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA28858; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:16:48 +0100 Received: from dront.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA15323; Fri, 16 Oct 92 22:16:47 +0100 Received: by dront.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA26071; Fri, 16 Oct 92 22:16:42 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:16:42 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210162116.AA26071@dront.nada.kth.se> To: 87141167%BRUFSC.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU, thomasfl@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: Answers and questions Cc: sgroup@taipan Status: RO > BTW! Today the first snow fall came 8-( I wish I could be Brazil... Heh, in Stockholm we've had snow for several days! :-) / h+ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 17:23:31 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168207-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:23:26 -0400 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30825>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:20:25 -0400 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA04051; Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:19:32 EDT Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA27979; Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:16:15 EDT Message-Id: <9210162116.AA27979@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Problems in compiling utils /Msg To Neil H. / Msg to GJM / Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:16:11 -0400 From: "neil herzinger" Status: RO >>> To Neil : I did not found the utility you mention in your post. Could you please upload it ? >>> Sorry, I meant the physical library (in George's capable hands). I can't load it up to the ftp site due to technical problems (i.e. I'm a moron). I'm sure someone else can do it though. neil From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 17:25:00 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168206-2>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:24:54 -0400 Received: from watserv2.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.128.100]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30826>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:23:11 -0400 Received: from UICVM.UIC.EDU ([128.248.2.50]) by watserv2.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168053>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:20:07 -0400 Received: from BRUFSC.BITNET by UICVM.UIC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 4740; Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:18:33 CDT Received: by BRUFSC (Mailer R2.08) id 6048; Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:36:24 BSC Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:32:39 -0400 From: Flavio <87141167%BRUFSC.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU> Subject: COAN, where are you? To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <92Oct16.172007edt.168053@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO Hello, Sorry for send this public, but your adress COAN@emba.uvm.edu not work for me (I wrote this 4 times today...afff). The messages that follows are my answers to you questions, some of that could be find at sgroup list. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:16:30 BSC From: Flavio <87141167@BRUFSC> Subject: Velocity scaling in W30 To: coan@emba.uvm.edu Hello , To change the velocity of a single note on the W30 sequencer, you must go to second page of the sequencer EDIT menu, by F1 key. In this page, you'll find a function called CHANGE VELOCITY (it is described at manual, I don't remenber the page now). There is a paramater like 'magnify' or 'scaling' that is the factor about the velocities will be multiplicated. After you choose the right parameters and press enter, the system will request about the note range of this funtion. THERE, you select the start note and the end note, that can be the same (scalling, then, the velocity of a single note). Any doubt, let me know. ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:11:36 BSC From: Flavio Bressan <87141167@BRUFSC> To: "Memory expansions for W30: summary" Hello, Here is what I get: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Mike Kelley As a fellow W-30 user, I sent away for the information from PA decoder last year, and they do offer the expansion for the W-30. If you want me to try and find what they sent me, let me know. Please reply at: makelley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keeler@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Jason Keeler) Actually, there are even more options for W-30 owners. You can even install new ROM banks with all new samples. In addition, there are internal HARDDRIVE options (40, 80MB). ...Jason --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Zacherl > > Is there any 3rd party upgrade to increase memory in the S330?? > > > You bet. PA-Decoder has an expansion which allows you to install up to 5 MB > of extra memory. The basic memory expansion which simply doubles your sampling > time, costs $498US (directly through PA-Decoder). This also gives you a new > 2U rack to house the extra board and ram card(s). In addition, they also > provide you with a new operating system to access the new ram. > > You can contact them at the following address: > > PA-DECODER > 1258, South Ogden Drive > Los Angeles, CA > 90019 > (213)938-8924 > > ...Jason Keeler Thanks a lot!! Does this Expansion still have the annoying memoryblocking??? Just by chance, you got a FAX# of them (we have 9 hours timeshift to LA) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: keeler@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Jason Keeler) > > Hi Jason, > > New ROM banks? Internal HARDDRIVES? To W30? I'm dreaming!!!!! > Where? Who? How much? :-)))) > Hey, Jason, send the answers to Sgroup, to all fellows! > > Very thanks for enlight a new hope for my W30!!!, > Flavio > The name of the company is PA-DECODER. Their address is as follows: PA-DECODER 1258 South Ogden Drive Los Angeles, CA 90019 (213)938-8924 Here is a quick summary: W-30/S-330 Basic Memory Expansion (incl. 1 Ram Card) $498 W-30/S-330 Installation of the Basicboard $78 W-30/S-330 1 Ram Card $199 W-30 1 Rom Bank $199 W-30 Programming A Rom Bank - up to 30 sample $43 - each additional sample $1 W-30 40MB Internal Harddrive, 17ms $533 W-30 80MB Internal Harddrive, 17ms $698 Necessary for harddrive: Power-supply, 40W, 110V-240V $149 Installation harddrive $47 W-30 SCSI-Interface $153 All prices are in US dollars. Hope this helps.... ...Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps, Flavio /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FLAVIO BRESSAN - 87141167@BRUFSC | IF YOU WANT TO SEND YOUR MUSIC TO GRAD IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING | MY RADIO SHOW, PLEASE SEND, IN RE- FADERAL UNIVERSITY OF SANTA CATARINA| GISTERED MAIL, TO: ------------------------------------| FLAVIO BRESSAN | R AFONSO PENA, 987 - ESTREITO | 88070-650 - FPOLIS - SC - BRASIL \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 17:31:07 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168207-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:31:01 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:30:57 -0400 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30827>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:29:25 -0400 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA29493; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:28:51 +0100 Received: from dront.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA15944; Fri, 16 Oct 92 22:28:49 +0100 Received: by dront.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA26159; Fri, 16 Oct 92 22:28:45 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:28:45 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210162128.AA26159@dront.nada.kth.se> To: gfd@usl.com, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: editor/librarians Status: RO > I have been using Digidesign SD II for a while. Sample > transfer does not seem appreciably faster than loading Yes, but can the mac write S-750 disks? / h+ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 17:52:58 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168204-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:52:49 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30823>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:51:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:46:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: editor/librarians Received: from usl by usl.com; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:46 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 938 Message-Id: <92Oct16.175122edt.30823@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO > From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se > Message-Id: <9210162128.AA26159@dront.nada.kth.se> > To: gfd@usl.com, sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca > > > I have been using Digidesign SD II for a while. Sample > > transfer does not seem appreciably faster than loading > > > Yes, but can the mac write S-750 disks? This is a bit of a non-sequitur. We were talking about sample dump over midi. As far as the mac writing S-750 disks, I have no idea. Considering the capacity of these machines, I think a hard disk is in order (especially considering the sample rate and the higher precision samples). I don't believe there are any commercially available sample editting programs that can write sampler disks. Some of the many brilliant sgroup members have been doing all sorts of disks writing, reading, shredding programs for the S-samplers. Of course, if you have an S-750, all the rest of us are very jealous and refuse to help you. :-) gfd From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 17:58:59 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168206-3>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:58:56 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:58:50 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30829>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:57:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:51:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: Answers and questions Received: from usl by usl.com; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:51 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 200 Message-Id: <92Oct16.175713edt.30829@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO > > BTW! Today the first snow fall came 8-( I wish I could be Brazil... > > Heh, in Stockholm we've had snow for several days! :-) New Jersey is partly cloudy with a fresh blanket of soot. gfd From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 18:08:48 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168206-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:08:43 -0400 Received: from Sun.COM ([192.9.9.1]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30828>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:07:45 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag-bb.Corp.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10646; Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:05:22 PDT Received: from katalyst.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27771; Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:05:25 PDT Received: by katalyst.Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01223; Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:02:11 PDT Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:02:11 -0400 From: Kathy.Carter@Eng.Sun.COM (Kathy Carter) Message-Id: <9210162202.AA01223@katalyst.Eng.Sun.COM> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca, gfd@usl.com Subject: Re: Answers and questions Status: RO > > > BTW! Today the first snow fall came 8-( I wish I could be Brazil... > > > > Heh, in Stockholm we've had snow for several days! :-) > > New Jersey is partly cloudy with a fresh blanket of soot. > > gfd Well, since we're giving weather reports, the San Francisco Bay Area in California is about 80 degrees. Quite a beautiful day as I look out of my office window into the blue sky watching the Blue Angels practice their air show. Just thought I'd share that with all of you ;-) kat From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 18:10:49 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168207-3>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:10:44 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:10:30 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30831>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:09:22 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:03:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: an idea Received: from usl by usl.com; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:03 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 920 Message-Id: <92Oct16.180922edt.30831@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO I had an idea for a little fun to be had by sgroup members. It was sort of an answer to the Usenet tape banter that the netwaves are so full of. While sending out samples to folks, I must admit to a certain curiosity about what people are doing with their samples. I thought that perhaps, instead of having everyone send in one of their pieces, we could have everyone send in about 20 seconds worth of music, all at the same tempo, that I could load into Sound Tools and hack into a BIG UGLY DANCE MIX. Perhaps those that don't like "tempo" in their music can just send a big ball of noise that can be overlayed onto some rhythm tracks. The piece would literally be from around the world! Well, what dya' think? Hey! put those tomatoes down... ahh! O \|/ | / \ gfd P.S. it was JUST an idea :-) P.S. International House of Samples!! From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 18:12:09 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168209-3>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:12:00 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:11:49 -0400 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30832>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:10:43 -0400 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA01639; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:10:02 +0100 Received: from dront.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA17289; Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:10:01 +0100 Received: by dront.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA26898; Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:09:55 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:09:55 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210162209.AA26898@dront.nada.kth.se> To: gfd@usl.com, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: editor/librarians Status: RO > > > I have been using Digidesign SD II for a while. Sample > > > transfer does not seem appreciably faster than loading > > > Yes, but can the mac write S-750 disks? > This is a bit of a non-sequitur. We were talking about sample > dump over midi. As far as the mac writing S-750 disks, I have Uh, yes, and I said "my S- won't receive sample dumps from SoundDesigner II" and you said "but MIDI dumps is slower than disk loads anyway" ... (Now where did the logic go?) Anyway, I _do_ have a hard disk for my S-anonymous, and unfortunately Roland totally botched the interface. They probably thought "oh, SCSI is so much faster than floppies, so we'll not have to make it right" and once there's a format, they can't change it :-( It's REALLY SLOW - the disk is not large (100MB) but fast (it's a fairly new Quantum) and still it takes 10-20 seconds just to DELETE a patch... And they said it has support for magnetic-optical drives. Cool, thinks me, and buys one of those not-too-expensive 128 MB opties. Unlimited storage! Only, they only support the Sony mechanism, and I got a Matshita :-( On the brighter side, when it sounds, it DOES sound wonderful. Maybe TOO winderful; in the kind of music I make, I need some grunge, so I sample at too low gain and normalize :-) :-) Cheers, / h+ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 18:13:19 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168204-2>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:13:10 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30838>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:12:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:05:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Answers and questions Received: from usl by usl.com; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:05 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 662 Message-Id: <92Oct16.181200edt.30838@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO > From: Kathy.Carter@Eng.Sun.COM (Kathy Carter) > To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca, gfd@usl.com > Subject: Re: Answers and questions > > > > > > BTW! Today the first snow fall came 8-( I wish I could be Brazil... > > > > > > Heh, in Stockholm we've had snow for several days! :-) > > > > New Jersey is partly cloudy with a fresh blanket of soot. > > > > gfd > > > Well, since we're giving weather reports, the San Francisco Bay Area in > California is about 80 degrees. Quite a beautiful day as I look out > of my office window into the blue sky watching the Blue Angels practice > their air show. ooooh! Could you get me a sample of that! ;-) gfd From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 18:29:35 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168206-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:29:34 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:29:20 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31015>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:26:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:21:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: editor/librarians Received: from usl by usl.com; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:21 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1988 Message-Id: <92Oct16.182656edt.31015@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO >From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se >Message-Id: <9210162209.AA26898@dront.nada.kth.se> >To: gfd@usl.com, sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca >Subject: Re: editor/librarians > >> > > I have been using Digidesign SD II for a while. Sample >> > > transfer does not seem appreciably faster than loading >> >> > Yes, but can the mac write S-750 disks? > >> This is a bit of a non-sequitur. We were talking about sample >> dump over midi. As far as the mac writing S-750 disks, I have > >Uh, yes, and I said "my S-equality> won't receive sample dumps from SoundDesigner II" >and you said "but MIDI dumps is slower than disk loads anyway" >... (Now where did the logic go?) Ok, same galaxy now... doesn't take SD II dumps?? What version of SD II do you have?? I can't believe they'd let that one fall between the cracks. >Anyway, I _do_ have a hard disk for my S-anonymous, and unfortunately >Roland totally botched the interface. They probably thought "oh, >SCSI is so much faster than floppies, so we'll not have to make >it right" and once there's a format, they can't change it :-( >It's REALLY SLOW - the disk is not large (100MB) but fast (it's >a fairly new Quantum) and still it takes 10-20 seconds just to >DELETE a patch... Ever feel like finding the Roland factory and blowing it up? >And they said it has support for magnetic-optical drives. Cool, >thinks me, and buys one of those not-too-expensive 128 MB opties. >Unlimited storage! Only, they only support the Sony mechanism, >and I got a Matshita :-( ooops! >On the brighter side, when it sounds, it DOES sound wonderful. >Maybe TOO winderful; in the kind of music I make, I need some >grunge, so I sample at too low gain and normalize :-) :-) I've got it. Send me the samples, I'll load them, call you up, and play the samples over the phone. Will that be AT&T, MCI or what? >Cheers, > > / h+ ^^^^ How is that pronounced? ;-} gfd From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 18:44:10 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168206-1>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:44:05 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:43:53 -0400 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30830>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:43:10 -0400 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA03029; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:42:39 +0100 Received: from dront.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA18269; Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:42:38 +0100 Received: by dront.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA27367; Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:42:38 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:42:38 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210162242.AA27367@dront.nada.kth.se> To: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se, gfd@usl.com, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: editor/librarians Status: RO > > / h+ > How is that pronounced? ;-} Eitch-pluss. Stands for hydrogen ion, which happens to be the one component that makes an... ACID! And if that wasn't enough, my name (in swedish) comes as close as you can come to the Swedish name for an hydrogen ion... / h+ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 16 18:56:41 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168204-2>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:56:36 -0400 Received: from gould.encore.com ([129.91.131.1]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31017>; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:55:46 -0400 Received: from ranger.encore.COM by gould.encore.com with SMTP id AA00262 (5.64+/UK-2.1-920501); Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:56:30 -0400 Received: by ranger.encore.com id AA08967 (5.54/UK-2.1-910806); Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:57:31 EDT From: Don Law Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:57:31 -0400 Message-Id: <8967.9210162257@ranger.encore.com> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Answers and questions Status: RO >>> BTW! Today the first snow fall came 8-( I wish I could be Brazil... >> Heh, in Stockholm we've had snow for several days! :-) > New Jersey is partly cloudy with a fresh blanket of soot. Fort Lauderdale is sunny, and just cool enough to get by without air conditioning. HA! Sample that! :-) --Don Law From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 18 19:14:11 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168083-1>; Sun, 18 Oct 1992 19:14:08 -0400 Received: by taipan.uwaterloo.ca via suspension id <30757>; Sun, 18 Oct 1992 18:40:13 -0400 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30758>; Sun, 18 Oct 1992 15:04:27 -0400 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA18964; Sat, 17 Oct 92 21:51:10 EDT Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA24088; Sat, 17 Oct 92 21:47:58 EDT Message-Id: <9210180147.AA24088@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Various and Sundry Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 21:47:58 -0400 From: "neil herzinger" Status: RO Re George's Sample-Song Idea: Terrific! Much better than the hour + tapes that other groups want to put together. I'd be happy to submit a 'ball of noise' to the project. I'm not afraid of rhythm though, give me a tempo! Re All this weather talk from people who live in obnoxiously nice climates I moved from Pittsburgh to Syracuse, cold to colder, I must be a masochist. >>> Well, since we're giving weather reports, the San Francisco Bay Area in California is about 80 degrees. Quite a beautiful day as I look out of my office window into the blue sky watching the Blue Angels practice their air show. >>> Hey, what are the blue angels doing out west ?!? These guys fly over my house (parent's house - annapolis) every summer. I've got them on tape somewhere. Never put them into my sampler though. BTW, since I'm posting, Does anyone have experience/opinions/doubts/etc with the following gear: Audiomedia II Digital Performer (the digital recording aspects, not sequencing) Studio Vision (same thing - digital recording aspects) Kurzweil K2000 (new 'do-everything' keyboard) I'm asking 'cause I'm putting together a mac-based midi studio for the computer graphics dept here at syracuse. sorry it doesn't have anything to do with Roland samplers.... neil From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 19 07:10:56 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168099-3>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 07:10:54 -0400 Received: from zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk ([132.146.5.1]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30760>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 06:24:41 -0400 Received: from axion.bt.co.uk by zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk with SMTP (PP) id <22732-0@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 11:08:26 +0100 To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: answers and questions + etc Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1992 06:06:22 -0400 From: The Wizard of ID (Andy Gray) Message-Id: <92Oct19.062441edt.30760@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO > > > > BTW! Today the first snow fall came 8-( I wish I could be Brazil... > > > > > > Heh, in Stockholm we've had snow for several days! :-) > > > > New Jersey is partly cloudy with a fresh blanket of soot. > Well, since we're giving weather reports, the San Francisco Bay Area in > California is about 80 degrees. Quite a beautiful day as I look out > of my office window into the blue sky watching the Blue Angels practice > their air show. The *real* England is partly blue sky and overcast and getting progressively colder. Apparently some parts of the UK had the first snow over the weekend. I missed the Red Arrows (the _only_ display team worth watching :-)) flying in formation recently when they flew the length of the UK in a '1' formation (continuous for around 1.5 hrs). Note: GCC the GNU compiler is indeed ANSI but it is easy to get it to pass non ANSI conformant code which can make for possible portability problems. How do I stop my S330 rebooting itself? I already have a clamp on the CPU, but my rack tends to vibrate, and the wretched machine starts counting down from 78 etc. Grrr. ^__^ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ (- 0) Andy <*,*> <*,*> <*,*> <*,*> <*,*> | \/ | [`-'] [`-'] [`-'] [`-'] [`-'] \ / NeXTMail Welcome -"-"- -"-"- -"-"- -"-"- -"-"- ====^^====================================================================== \/ Software Technology Division, SSTF/306, British Telecom Research Labs., Martlesham Heath, Ipswich IP5 7RE, U.K. Andy Gray Tel: +44 473 646647 e-mail: agray@axion.bt.co.uk "L'amour c'est aveugle, l'amitie ferme les yeux" ============================================================================ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 19 07:46:48 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168004-1>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 07:46:39 -0400 Received: from oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com ([131.1.101.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30762>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 07:10:47 -0400 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.65/1.34) id AA16279; Mon, 19 Oct 92 03:38:46 -0700 Received: by oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (5.51/smail2.5/12-18-87) id AA16276; Mon, 19 Oct 92 03:38:41 PDT Return-Path: Received: by cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (5.51/ICO-1.0) id AA26403; Mon, 19 Oct 92 11:35:21 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1992 07:35:21 -0400 From: borzieri@oliveb.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Ivan Borzieri) Message-Id: <9210191035.AA26403@cavour.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: S50 (New) User Questions Status: RO Thanks to all who replied to my question about compiling utilities. Now I MUST find an ANSI C compiler ... :) Well, guys, I bought it ! I got the S-50 with a little discount (~80 US $). Now, stright on with more questions ! I think it's a good machine, I tried to sample from CD, and I got good results. Anyway, the manual is translated to italian, has no drawings, and sometimes is difficult to understand. I'd like to use the machine with a sequencer, and all I suceeded to do is to play a maximum of four samples (in multitone mode). I somewhat overcomed this by putting program changes in the track, so that I can access more than four samples, but the limitation on the number of samplesplaying together is still there (4). So : If I put the machine in MultiPatch mode, instead of MultiTone, I hope it would be possible to play 16 different samples at once (obviously every sample should not try to play more than one note at a time, as the number of voices is sixteen). I got a disk from the ftp site, id by Thomas Flemmings, and it contains TR909 samples. There is only one patch, and Thomas assigned some samples to one key only. How is this achieved ? How do you tell to the keyboard that you want, for example, tone 11 on key C2, tone 12 on key C#2, tone 13 on keys D2 to D3 ? HOW DO YOU PROGRAM A PATCH ? I looked at the sub menu PATCH PRM, but I did not understand how to reach that thing. I looked at SPLIT, but it asks for 1 tone and 2 tone numbers only, and even if I supply them, the keyboard goes on playing the first one only, and then I got keys which do not play anything if pressed. I WANT TO PLAY MORE THAN FOUR SAMPLES AT A TIME !!!!! HELP ME !!!!! I'm writing a diskette containing house rythms, (Drums loops), is there anybody wanting it ? Bye and Thanks, Ivan P.S. : If somebody uses the Amiga, I found an Editor for S-50 (demo only). It's called "Sample Wrench" and can be found on Fred Fish 307 (DissiDemos). I 've not seen it yet, but I hope it's good ! From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 19 09:16:04 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168004-1>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 09:16:02 -0400 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30767>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 09:14:02 -0400 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA15443; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 14:13:45 +0100 Received: from byse.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA02561; Mon, 19 Oct 92 14:13:42 +0100 Received: by byse.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA00633; Mon, 19 Oct 92 14:13:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1992 09:13:34 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210191313.AA00633@byse.nada.kth.se> To: naherzin@mailbox.syr.edu, sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: Various and Sundry Status: RO > give me a tempo! 125. > Audiomedia II Have one, and have CuBase Audio. Works fine one I got the crashes ironed out (partly my MIDI interface, partly magic) However, it seems as if it cannot record on one channel while playing another :-( Really cool compared to a 4-track, though! Be sure to get a LOT of disk and a good backup solution (I use 128 MB opticals) and of course that hard disk should be FAST. > Digital Performer, Studio Vision As I said, I use CuBase and it's fine. > Kurzweil K2000 Cool now that it's available in rack form and has a sampling option. IF the rack and sampling optino had been here 6 months ago, I would maybe not have been the proud owner of a Roland S-750. However, I haven't seen a CRT for it, and I haven't seen if its editing functinos are as good (time shift etc) / h+ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 19 15:48:28 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168173-1>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 15:48:23 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 19 Oct 92 15:48:21 -0400 Received: from watserv2.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.128.100]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30816>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 15:35:55 -0400 Received: from UICVM.UIC.EDU ([128.248.2.50]) by watserv2.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168104>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 15:35:32 -0400 Received: from BRUFSC.BITNET by UICVM.UIC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 7450; Mon, 19 Oct 92 14:34:16 CST Received: by BRUFSC (Mailer R2.08) id 2931; Mon, 19 Oct 92 15:18:29 BSC Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1992 11:12:02 -0400 From: Flavio <87141167%BRUFSC.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU> Subject: Help on Looping samples of musical instruments To: sgroup@taipan Message-Id: <92Oct19.153532edt.168104@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO Hello Fellows, Until now I used my W30 to sample pieces of songs, from kraftwerk to pink floyd... Loop this is the easyest thing of the world. But, now I'm sampling instruments, at the moment sounds of my E35 Roland Intelligent Arranger/Synthesizer (erk.. a very good home keyboard) and I don't get loop that *&%&$ sounds. Someone have tips/hints about how to find the perfect loop? I already experienced the auto-loop feature... result = shit loop. HELP! :-) Thanks in advance, Flavio /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FLAVIO BRESSAN - 87141167@BRUFSC | IF YOU WANT TO SEND YOUR MUSIC TO GRAD IN ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING | MY RADIO SHOW, PLEASE SEND, IN RE- FADERAL UNIVERSITY OF SANTA CATARINA| GISTERED MAIL, TO: ------------------------------------| FLAVIO BRESSAN | R AFONSO PENA, 987 - ESTREITO | 88070-650 - FPOLIS - SC - BRASIL \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 19 16:45:17 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168173-1>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 16:45:05 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30762>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 16:43:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1992 16:38:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: SGroove (was "Re: Various and Sundry") Received: from usl by usl.com; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 16:38 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3047 Message-Id: <92Oct19.164344edt.30762@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO > From: "neil herzinger" > Content-Type: text > Re George's Sample-Song Idea: > Terrific! Much better than the hour + tapes that other groups want to put > together. I'd be happy to submit a 'ball of noise' to the project. I'm not > afraid of rhythm though, give me a tempo! Jon and I have spoken a little about some specifics. Jon wants 125 bpm as tempo. Since I don't have a metronome or "Perfect Meter" (as opposed to perfect pitch), I will take Jon's word for it. NO KEY. Not necessarily atonal, but not G major either! :-) The mix-master can do what he/she wants. Which brings me the next point: Anyone else who feels like doing a mix should contact me. I thought that all submissions should come to me, then I can assemble them all and send cassettes or DATs out to those who want to do mixes. I know that Jon, at least, is interested in doing a mix too. So, the rundown: Submissions: Length: between 10 and 20 seconds Media: stereo cassette or DAT @ 44.1k saampling rate. Tempo: 125 bpm (try to be as accurate as possible!) Maximum: 2 clips per person (with ample dead air between) Like I mentioned, if someone wants to do something arhythmic to be in the mix as well, send it in (with the understanding that some nasty grooving pulse will be pumping underneath!!). Same rules (except tempo) apply to you. At this stage, I'd just like to get responses from people who are interested in participating. Just mention if you want to do a CLIP or a MIX. Got it? Send me mail and I will get in touch soon. We'll figure out a timetable and more of the logistics when we see who's involved. I think if we can get even just 6 or 7 submissions we're in business. > BTW, since I'm posting, Does anyone have experience/opinions/doubts/etc > with the following gear: > > Audiomedia II > Digital Performer (the digital recording aspects, not sequencing) > Studio Vision (same thing - digital recording aspects) I have been a Studio Vision user basically since it was out (as a matter of fact, it was the main reason I bought my mac. I have been very happy with it in general. Vision is extremely powerful, and the ability to integrate audio in such a natural way with the sequencer makes it easy to get into. My only caveat is that the product needs a pretty decently powered mac to have it work as it should. I have a Mac IIcx and it is quite good (8 meg, 640 meg HD). I would like a faster mac (a Mac IIci is my next step). You should have as much RAM as possible and as fast and big a disk as possible. If you can afford Pro-Tools, go for it. The extra channels alone make it something to dream about. 2 channels is fine, but a couple of more and I would be emminently happy. > Kurzweil K2000 (new 'do-everything' keyboard) > > I'm asking 'cause I'm putting together a mac-based midi studio for the > computer graphics dept here at syracuse. sorry it doesn't have anything > to do with Roland samplers.... anything for the Father of the Sgroup!! gfd > neil > From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 19 23:44:06 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168184-3>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 23:43:56 -0400 Received: from diemen.utas.edu.au ([131.217.1.19]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30818>; Mon, 19 Oct 1992 23:42:02 -0400 Received: from ecc.tased.edu.au by diemen.utas.edu.au with SMTP id AA26305 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.CA); Tue, 20 Oct 92 14:40:15 +1100 Received: from ecc.tased.edu.au by ecc.tased.edu.au (PMDF #12099) id <01GQ6BH5EWOW9S3S2J@ecc.tased.edu.au>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 14:40 +1000 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 00:40:00 -0400 From: Rodney Foley Subject: Sampler comparissons To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: <01GQ6BH5EWOW9S3S2J@ecc.tased.edu.au> X-Envelope-To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.CA X-Vms-To: IN%"sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.CA" Status: RO There appears to be a little bit of comparison between different samplers recenlty so I have included brief details of the S-750 Feature S -750 ======================================================================== Keyboard NO Sampling Rates 48, 44.1, 24, 22.05 KHz Sampler Memory 2 MB - 22.5 sec @ 44.1 KHz 10 MB - 113.5 sec @ 44.1 KHz 18 MB - 204 sec @ 44.1 Khz Sampler comes standard with 2 Mb, to expand the memory you must add an expansion board ( Aus$395) which is simply screwed to the main board. The expansion board has slots for 4 X 4MB simms which must be added in pairs. Sample in memory 512 Partials in memory 255 ( 1 partial consists of 1 to 4 samples) Patches in memory 128 ( 1 patch consists of 1 to 88 partials) Mouse Functionality Yes Video port YES SCSI YES Envelopes 1 Time Variant Filter(TVF) and 1 Time Variant Amplifier (TVA) per partial LFO's 1 per partial ( can be routed to pitch, TVA or TVF) READ S-50 NO READ S-550/S-330/W-30 YES WRITE S-50/S-550 NO /S-330/W30 " As you've alredy learned, the organisation of the S-750 is complex, and the more you get into it, the more complex it gets. " S-750 users manual. Anybody wanting more detail on S-750 specs let me know. Rodney P.S Todays weather in Hobart is cloudy and a bit cold and 12 degrees. ______________________________________________________________________________ 'There are no limits to the depths you can sink to, There are no limits to the heights you can climb Crimes of Passion, Crimes of Passion, Crimes' Rough Trade _______________________________________________________________________________ Rodney Foley (ecc_foley@ecc.tased.oz.au) _--_|\ Information Technology Branch / 'OZ' \ Link Road, Claremont, Tasmania, Australia 7011 \_.--._/ Phone Inside OZ 002 496999 , Outside Oz 61 02 496999 * <- Me Fax 002 496969 / 61 02 496969 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 20 02:50:17 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168187-2>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 02:50:09 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 20 Oct 92 02:49:59 -0400 Received: from world.std.com ([192.74.137.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30760>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 02:49:20 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA06243; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 02:48:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 02:44:05 -0400 From: michael g moncur Subject: Re: SGroove (was "Re: Various and Sundry") To: SGroup Post In-Reply-To: <92Oct19.164344edt.30762@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO I'd be willing to send a 20-second clip on DAT (i'd prefer to get the DAT back though.) 125 BPM is just fine, and my material is heavily rythmic anyhow. I'd like to hear the final version when it's done... Perhaps we could include a SASE, and you could dub the final mix onto the DAT that each submission is on and send it back? ; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 11:35:15 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 20 Oct 92 11:35:06 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30760>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 11:27:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 10:21:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: SGroup Post Subject: Re: SGroove (was "Re: Various and Sundry") Received: from usl by usl.com; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 10:21 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1015 Message-Id: <92Oct20.112754edt.30760@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO > Subject: Re: SGroove (was "Re: Various and Sundry") > > I'd be willing to send a 20-second clip on DAT (i'd prefer to get the DAT > back though.) 125 BPM is just fine, and my material is heavily rythmic > anyhow. > I'd like to hear the final version when it's done... Perhaps we could > include a SASE, and you could dub the final mix onto the DAT that each > submission is on and send it back? Yes, all those submitting stuff will get all of the final mixes back on the DAT/cassette they sent in. They should be send SASE. We can worry about copies for non-submitters when the mixes are done. > post to the sgroup, until I realized that there's an invisible "u" in > "uwaterloo" - I've made that mistake several times. Hey Sellens! What does he win for a first post... :-) > --------------------- > Michael Moncur mgm@world.std.com (preferred) > sysop@onlybbs.via.mind.org > --------------------- From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 20 11:52:06 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168193-3>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 11:52:05 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 20 Oct 92 11:51:59 -0400 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30760>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 11:50:45 -0400 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA02594; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 16:49:58 +0100 Received: from byse.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA00136; Tue, 20 Oct 92 16:49:57 +0100 Received: by byse.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA14061; Tue, 20 Oct 92 16:49:56 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 11:49:56 -0400 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210201549.AA14061@byse.nada.kth.se> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: SGroove Status: RO Well, we'll be doing two versions, one European and one US. George and me will be collecting submissions of 10-20 second tracks, either rhytmic (at 125 BPM) or arythmic (aka "drones") and share them; If Sweden's closer to you than the US is, i.e. you're in Europe, send DAT or cassette to me (44.1 kHz preferred) If you're in the US, send them to George. Him and me will swap submissions, make our mixes, swap mixes, and record it all on the media you sent us and return the mixes to you. If you're mailing from Europe, it might be hard to get Swedish stamps, so I will pay return postage if you send your submission in a re-usable envelope. (No, you US people, don't send tapes to me to save a buck :-) I also accept submissions electronically. We need only one or two more people before we go, but the more, the better... Our mail addresses are: h+@nada.kth.se gfd@usl.com And yes, of course you can send several snippets, just space them 10 seconds apart. / h+ Jon W{tte -- -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Suedoise (not french speaking) -- "Practice random kindness, and senseless acts of beauty." From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 20 12:16:35 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168190-1>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 12:16:31 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30821>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 12:15:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 12:10:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: SGroove Received: from usl by usl.com; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 12:10 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1529 Message-Id: <92Oct20.121525edt.30821@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO > Well, we'll be doing two versions, one European and one US. Note, as I mentioned, anyone else who wants to do a mix is welcome. Just drop me a line and we can work out the logistics. > George and me will be collecting submissions of 10-20 second > tracks, either rhytmic (at 125 BPM) or arythmic (aka "drones") > and share them; If Sweden's closer to you than the US is, > i.e. you're in Europe, send DAT or cassette to me (44.1 kHz > preferred) If you're in the US, send them to George. Him > and me will swap submissions, make our mixes, swap mixes, > and record it all on the media you sent us and return the > mixes to you. If you're mailing from Europe, it might be hard > to get Swedish stamps, so I will pay return postage if you > send your submission in a re-usable envelope. (No, you US > people, don't send tapes to me to save a buck :-) wat hee sed... > I also accept submissions electronically. I'm afraid I can't do this... > We need only one > or two more people before we go, but the more, the better... > Our mail addresses are: > h+@nada.kth.se > gfd@usl.com > > And yes, of course you can send several snippets, just space > them 10 seconds apart. ditto. > -- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Suedoise (not french speaking) -- > > "Practice random kindness, and senseless acts of beauty." ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ya' gotta love this guy!! gfd P.S. Jon does NOT have a red beard... (although I have no way of verifying this... :-) From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 20 14:04:04 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <167985-2>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 14:03:34 -0400 Received: from bcars520 ([192.58.194.73]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30760>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 14:00:58 -0400 X400-Received: by mta bcars520 in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 13:46:46 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 13:46:25 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 09:44:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 09:44:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /DD.ID=1577285/G=Shiv/I=S/S=Naimpally/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.862:20.09.92.17.46.25] Original-Encoded-Information-Types: ia5, undefined X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: Re: S50 Info From: "Shiv (S.) Naimpally" Message-ID: <"28889 Tue Oct 20 13:46:34 1992"@bnr.ca> To: gfd@usl.com Cc: "Matt (M.) Cohen" , sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca, borzieri@oliveb.atc.olivetti.com Subject: Re: S50 Info Status: RO On the comparison chart I noticed there is 3rd party SCSI support for the S330. Who is the 3rd party ? Address or telephone number would be appreciated ! Shiv From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 20 14:40:36 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168193-3>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 14:40:35 -0400 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30821>; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 14:39:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 14:33:00 -0400 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: S50 Info Received: from usl by usl.com; Tue, 20 Oct 1992 14:33 EDT Content-Type: text Content-Length: 265 Message-Id: <92Oct20.143920edt.30821@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: RO >On the comparison chart I noticed there is 3rd party SCSI support >for the S330. Who is the 3rd party ? Address or telephone number would >be appreciated ! > > >Shiv Someone posted it not to long ago, I'll look into it and post it if I can find it. gfd From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 21 00:56:07 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168196-3>; Wed, 21 Oct 1992 00:56:01 -0400 Received: from world.std.com ([192.74.137.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30821>; Wed, 21 Oct 1992 00:51:43 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA12449; Wed, 21 Oct 1992 00:48:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1992 00:46:12 -0400 From: michael g moncur Subject: Samples at Taipan To: SGroup Post Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO I notice that there are several samples for the S-550 at the Taipan FTP site. How does one use these? Is there a utility for the PC or atari that will convert them into a sampler disk, or are they in some sort of sysex format that should be dumped to the 330 / 550? --------------------- Michael Moncur mgm@world.std.com (preferred) sysop@onlybbs.via.mind.org --------------------- From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sat Oct 24 03:18:00 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168744-1>; Sat, 24 Oct 1992 03:17:57 -0400 Received: from world.std.com ([192.74.137.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30765>; Sat, 24 Oct 1992 03:02:01 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA23573; Sat, 24 Oct 1992 01:48:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 01:46:59 -0400 From: michael gary moncur Subject: Hello? To: SGroup Post Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO Is the sgroup still here? I haven't received any messages in the past two days. From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 25 03:13:11 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169016-1>; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 03:13:07 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Sun, 25 Oct 92 03:13:00 -0500 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30815>; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 03:06:24 -0500 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA04982; Sat, 24 Oct 92 16:43:41 EDT Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA20502; Sat, 24 Oct 92 16:39:37 EDT Message-Id: <9210242039.AA20502@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 24 Oct 92 01:46:59 EDT." Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1992 16:39:36 -0400 From: "neil herzinger" Status: RO Yeah, still going. I think everyone's tired out from the burst of messages last week. (believe me, that was the most there ever was). Re: the 2sec song project - are you guys ready for submissions yet or are you still holding off? neil From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Sun Oct 25 04:52:54 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168181-3>; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 04:52:48 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Sun, 25 Oct 92 04:52:45 -0500 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30828>; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 04:51:19 -0500 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA02356; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 10:50:54 +0100 Received: from hemul.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA17617; Sun, 25 Oct 92 10:50:52 +0100 Received: by hemul.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA29281; Sun, 25 Oct 92 10:50:48 +0100 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1992 04:50:48 -0500 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210250950.AA29281@hemul.nada.kth.se> To: naherzin@mailbox.syr.edu, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: Hello? Status: RO > Re: the 2sec song project - are you guys ready for submissions > yet or are you still holding off? Just lemme at'em ! (And it's 10-20 secs or so, not 2 :-) / h+ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 26 08:57:49 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169132-1>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 08:57:45 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 03:00:24 -0500 Received: from ifi.uio.no ([129.240.64.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31203>; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 13:28:33 -0500 Received: from gyda.ifi.uio.no by ifi.uio.no with SMTP id ; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 19:28:25 +0100 From: Thomas Flemming Received: by gyda.ifi.uio.no ; Sun, 25 Oct 1992 19:28:24 +0100 Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1992 13:28:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199210251828.AAgyda.ifi.uio.no17743@gyda.ifi.uio.no> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: W-30 and harddisk question. Status: RO Is there anyone out there currently using a W-30 with a harddisk connected, (or any other customized add on's)? Just wondered if it's possible to buy an used PC harddisk, and plug it into the SCSI-port. Last time I played at a concert the breaks between the songs was almost 1 minute, shuffling with floppies and loading. -Thomas Flemming From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 26 14:54:48 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169331-3>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 14:54:45 -0500 Received: from top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.15]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30829>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 14:27:00 -0500 Received: by top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (5.65/3.910213) id AA14517; Mon, 26 Oct 92 13:33:31 -0500 From: Todd J Sines Message-Id: <9210261833.AA14517@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: W-30 and harddisk question. To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 13:33:30 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: R yes, i use a w-30 with a syquest removable drive. i got it from relax technologies in california. we had to purchase the scsi card for the back ($120-150) and then we could use the syquest. with the syquest, you can save up to 40mb on a 44mb cartridge. roland only lets you format in increments of 20mb, so that is what we got out of it. the loading time between songs is near 20-30 secs for the song and sounds. it basically cuts it in half. what i hate about how they organized the sampler is that it takes the same time to load 1 sample as it does to load 15 samples when you have them in banks. does anybody know if you can alter the rom card samples to your own? i would rather have a bunch of 909's and 808's than the stupid samples they put on now. the 808's that they do have aren't heavy enough. BTW, try programming a song, then go to the TVF page and play with the parameters. in techno, it makes sounds similar to that of the aphex twin... good stuff. sines From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 26 15:12:34 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169348-2>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 15:12:25 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30831>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 14:54:37 -0500 Received: from usl.usl.com by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 10:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: <9210261554.AA05524@math.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 10:47:00 -0500 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Cc: gfd@usl.com Subject: SGROOVE Received: from usl by usl.com; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 10:47 EST Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2789 Status: R OK, Here's the final state of things. ========================================================================= Submissions ========================================================================= Tempo: 125 BPM (please be as accurate as possible!) Length: 10-20 secs* Number: limit 3 per customer (spaced at 10 secs apart) Media: Stereo Cassette, Stereo DAT (44.1k preferred) Deadline: November 30, 1992 ========================================================================= * Those who will submit non-metered/non-tempo sound bites to be incorporated can be less than 10 secs. ========================================================================= The Mix ========================================================================= So far, only Jon W{tte and I have shown interest in doing mixes. This is fine, but others are welcome. When all submissions are in, I will send Jon what I have and he will send me what he has. We will then do our mixes, send each other the results and then re-distribute to those that submitted. We'll work out how to get copies to other interested parties later. For my part, I intend to take the submissions I get and get them under Sound Tools on my mac. This will allow me to hear them back to back and switch the order around to see which pieces flow into others ("flow" is, of course, relative). I wont know until I hear them all whether there needs to be some unifying rhythm track underneath. I'm going to try to minimize this, although I suspect that it may be needed to make it work. I will, most likely, use each submission whole but may also take fragments as well. I will include the raw submissions on the final tape by themselves. ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Submitters so far: ========================================================================= Jon W{tte (Sweden) Kathy Carter (US (well, California :-)) George Demarest (US) Neil Herzinger (US) Ray MacNeil (Canada) Michael Moncur (US (I think)) I'd like to see more from outside the US (Mr. Flemming?!! Terje?!! One of our distinguished Australians? IMPORTANT: I'd like to get email confirmation from all submitters that everything is clear and understood as soon as possible. Specifically as to whether the deadline for submission is doable. ========================================================================= Submissions from US and Canada send in a SASE to: George Demarest 1165 Hillside Avenue Plainfield, NJ 07080 (908) 757-4655 (home) (908) 522-6363 (work) Submissions from Europe, Asia, Australia send to Jon W{tte (address to follow). From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 26 15:46:00 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169369-3>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 15:45:52 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31015>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 15:38:18 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <169366-1>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 15:37:42 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: gfd@usl.com, sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: SGroove (was "Re: Various and Sundry") Message-Id: <92Oct26.153742est.169366-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 15:37:39 -0500 Status: R | From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 20 11:35:23 1992 | From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) | To: SGroup Post | Subject: Re: SGroove (was "Re: Various and Sundry") | Content-Type: text | Content-Length: 1015 | | > post to the sgroup, until I realized that there's an invisible "u" in | > "uwaterloo" - I've made that mistake several times. | > --------------------- | > Michael Moncur mgm@world.std.com (preferred) | > sysop@onlybbs.via.mind.org | > --------------------- | | | Hey Sellens! What does he win for a first post... :-) Eternal fame? Hmmm - the u in uwaterloo can be kind of invisible. Is UWaterloo more readable, or is it just more of the same? John From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 26 16:42:46 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169396-1>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 16:42:42 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 16:42:37 -0500 Received: from watdragon.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.24]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30838>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 16:41:11 -0500 Received: by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca id <169394-1>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 16:40:55 -0500 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@taipan Subject: historical archives of the sgroup mailing list Message-Id: <92Oct26.164055est.169394-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 16:40:52 -0500 Status: R If any of you are interested, I just put my collection of sgroup mail messages up for ftp, on taipan.uwaterloo.ca (as always) in pub/sgroup/archives - the files are named for the month of the traffic - I currently have from April to September of this year (9204 to 9209 are the file names). (They might be slightly incomplete.) If anyone has older traffic that they would like to contribute, pleae let me know. John jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 26 19:14:04 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169442-2>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 19:13:57 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 19:13:47 -0500 Received: from diemen.utas.edu.au ([131.217.1.19]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31019>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 19:10:38 -0500 Received: from ecc.tased.edu.au by diemen.utas.edu.au with SMTP id AA22390 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.CA); Tue, 27 Oct 92 11:09:01 +1100 Received: from ecc.tased.edu.au by ecc.tased.edu.au (PMDF #12099) id <01GQFW5LR6Q89S3YSO@ecc.tased.edu.au>; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 11:08 +1000 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 20:08:00 -0500 From: Rodney Foley Subject: Use of DAT as a sampler backup mechanism. To: sgroup@taipan Message-Id: <01GQFW5LR6Q89S3YSO@ecc.tased.edu.au> X-Envelope-To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.CA X-Vms-To: IN%"sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.CA" Status: R Anybody have any experience using DAT as a storage mechanism for samples, I believe you can connect a DAT player to an AKAI S1000 and use it for the loading and saving of samples, but I haven't heard about this will Roland samplers. Ciao Rodney ecc_foley@ecc.tased.edu.au From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 26 22:19:41 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169511-2>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 22:19:30 -0500 Received: from world.std.com ([192.74.137.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31018>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 22:18:15 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA18822; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 22:17:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 22:14:54 -0500 From: michael gary moncur Subject: invisible "u" (was Re: SGroove (was "Re: Various and Sundry")) To: SGroup Post In-Reply-To: <92Oct26.153742est.169366-1@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R On Mon, 26 Oct 1992, John M. Sellens wrote: > > Hmmm - the u in uwaterloo can be kind of invisible. Is UWaterloo > more readable, or is it just more of the same? > > John UWaterloo is better, or Uwaterloo. Then again, my eyes aren't perfect either. :D From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Oct 26 22:27:06 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169515-2>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 22:27:04 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 26 Oct 92 22:26:54 -0500 Received: from world.std.com ([192.74.137.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31021>; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 22:26:19 -0500 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA19479; Mon, 26 Oct 1992 22:24:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1992 22:21:27 -0500 From: michael gary moncur Subject: Re: SGROOVE To: SGroup Post In-Reply-To: <9210261554.AA05524@math.uwaterloo.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R I read your instructions loud and clear RE: submissions. November 30th sounds fine to me - I can do that. And I am in the US, by the way. From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 27 15:27:38 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168426-2>; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 15:27:33 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 15:04:22 -0500 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <33382>; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 14:40:12 -0500 Received: from sics.se by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA19796; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 15:40:51 +0100 Received: from geb.sics.se by sics.se (5.61-bind 1.5+ida/SiteCap-3.0) id AA27004; Tue, 27 Oct 92 15:40:50 +0100 From: Anders Wass Received: by geb.sics.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/SiteCap-3.0) id AA11857; Tue, 27 Oct 92 15:40:48 +0100 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 09:40:48 -0500 Message-Id: <9210271440.AA11857@geb.sics.se> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Memory expansion for DJ70 Status: R Has anyone seen any 3rd party products that enables the DJ70 to hold more than the very limiting 4 megs. Shouldn't this be possible since the DJ70 really is a S750 in disguise as I understand? /wass From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Oct 27 18:30:46 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168498-2>; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 18:30:39 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 18:30:34 -0500 Received: from att.att.com ([192.20.239.131]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <33386>; Tue, 27 Oct 1992 18:28:03 -0500 From: wbf@alux2.att.com Received: by alux2 (/\../\ Smail3.1.14.4 #14.2) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 92 08:52 EST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 08:52:00 -0500 Original-From: wbf@alux2 (Fox) To: sgroup@taipan Status: R Subject: Use of DAT as a sampler backup mechanism. Hi Rodney, Doesn't the S770 come with digital inputs and outputs? Or maybe they're an option. Either way, I do recall this feature from discussions I've had with sales personnel. (I don't own an S770. Is there somebody in sgroup who does and can confirm/deny my statements?) Seems to me that it would permit direct recording from CD and DAT, and anything else that has the proper (coax?) interface. That could mean that DCC and MD could possibly become sources in the future. This is, of course, all based on the raw samples, not patch data or anything like that. I have heard of using DAT as a data backup device but don't know anything about this. The two ways of storing info on DAT described above are quite different. Bill Fox From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 28 04:09:45 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168184-1>; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 04:09:34 -0500 Received: from sunic.sunet.se ([192.36.125.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <33388>; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 04:07:11 -0500 Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) id AA14305; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 10:06:54 +0100 Received: from dudu.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA01147; Wed, 28 Oct 92 10:06:52 +0100 Received: by dudu.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA06002; Wed, 28 Oct 92 10:06:50 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 04:06:50 -0500 From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se Message-Id: <9210280906.AA06002@dudu.nada.kth.se> To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca, wass@sics.se Subject: Re: Memory expansion for DJ70 Status: RO Eftersom DJ70 {r mycket billigare {n S-750, {r Roland nog smarta nog att crippla mjukvaran till att inte k{nna igen mer minne... Mitt r}d: k|p en K2000R med sampling fr}n USA. Hade jag gjort om den hade funnits n{r jag k|pte min Roland. / h+ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 28 11:41:36 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168679-3>; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 11:41:28 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 28 Oct 92 11:41:25 -0500 Received: from watserv2.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.128.100]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31204>; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 11:37:42 -0500 Received: from UICVM.UIC.EDU ([128.248.2.50]) by watserv2.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168595>; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 11:37:28 -0500 Received: from BRUFSC.BITNET by UICVM.UIC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 5256; Wed, 28 Oct 92 10:36:23 CST Received: by BRUFSC (Mailer R2.08) id 4320; Wed, 28 Oct 92 14:36:42 BSC Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 09:21:16 -0500 From: 87141167%BRUFSC.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU To: sgroup@taipan Message-Id: <92Oct28.113728est.168595@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> Status: R Hello folks, This is the last compatibility chart that we have. If someone have more info about, write me at 87141167@brufsc.bitnet ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - S50/S550/W30/S330 compatibility of disks: S50 S550 W30 S330 S50 R,S RCOS,?S NR,NS NR,NS S550 R,?S R,S ?R,?S ?R,?S W30 RC,SC R,S R,S R,S S330 R,NS R,S R,S R,S R = Read this format. S = Save in this format. NR = No read this format. NS = No save in this format. RC = Read with converter program in the system disk. SC = Save with converter program in the system disk. RCOS = Read, but with converter program out of system disk. ?R, ?S = I don't know if load or if save this format. Using the chart: search at lines the machine that you have, and then read at rows the disk compatibility. Ex: Q: Does S50 read/save S330 disks? A: S50 is at first line, S330 is at last row the crosspoint gives NR,NS, i.e., S50 no read neither saves disks in S330 data format. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This information could be released in a FAQ file, but I don't know if there is something like this here at Sgroup. BTW, I keep a copy with me and who wish the chart, just call me. Tchau, Flavio /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ FLAVIO BRESSAN - 87141167@BRUFSC | If you want to send your music Engenharia Eletrica | to my radio show, please send, Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina| in registered mail, to: --------------------------------------| FLAVIO BRESSAN "Who that never faulted, shots the | R AFONSO PENA, 987 - ESTREITO first stone" Jesus Christ | 88070-650 - FPOLIS - SC - BRASIL \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 28 12:16:38 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168712-2>; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:16:27 -0500 Received: from apple.com ([130.43.2.2]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31207>; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:14:53 -0500 Received: by apple.com (5.61/7-Aug-1992-eef) id AA18050; Wed, 28 Oct 92 09:06:31 -0800 for Received: from nlp4.UUCP by nli.com (4.1/nli.com(V1.0)) id AA14249; Wed, 28 Oct 92 09:42:01 PPE Received: from nlp16.nli.com (nlp16.ARPA) by nlp4 (4.1/nli(V1.0)) id AA02033; Wed, 28 Oct 92 08:14:46 PST Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 11:14:46 -0500 From: stan@nli.com (Stan Sawyer) Message-Id: <9210281614.AA02033@nlp4> To: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se, sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca, wass@sics.se Subject: Re: Memory expansion for DJ70 Status: R >... >Received: from nada.kth.se (cyklop.nada.kth.se) by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8/1.28) > id AA14305; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 10:06:54 +0100 >Received: from dudu.nada.kth.se by nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) > id AA01147; Wed, 28 Oct 92 10:06:52 +0100 >Received: by dudu.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) > id AA06002; Wed, 28 Oct 92 10:06:50 +0100 >Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 04:06:50 -0500 "dudu"? "nada"? I love these node names! >From: d88-jwa@nada.kth.se >Message-Id: <9210280906.AA06002@dudu.nada.kth.se> >To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca, wass@sics.se >Subject: Re: Memory expansion for DJ70 >Status: R > >Eftersom DJ70 {r mycket billigare {n S-750, {r Roland nog >smarta nog att crippla mjukvaran till att inte k{nna igen >mer minne... > >Mitt r}d: k|p en K2000R med sampling fr}n USA. Hade jag No kidding? >gjort om den hade funnits n{r jag k|pte min Roland. > OK. That explains it. > / h+ > stan From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 28 12:44:08 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168718-3>; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:44:00 -0500 Received: from usl.com ([147.2.200.17]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <33389>; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:42:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:35:00 -0500 From: gfd@usl.com (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) To: Sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: SGROOVE Received: from usl by usl.com; Wed, 28 Oct 1992 12:35 EST Content-Type: text Content-Length: 146 Message-Id: <92Oct28.124249est.33389@taipan.uwaterloo.ca> Status: R > We've got us a norwegian contributor, methinks... I'm > not solo on this side :-) > > -Thomas Flemming > thomasfl@ifi.uio.no Yeehah! gfd From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 29 00:07:47 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168947-1>; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 00:07:43 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 29 Oct 92 00:07:36 -0500 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <33406>; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 00:03:23 -0500 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA06999; Thu, 29 Oct 92 00:03:12 EST Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA05552; Wed, 28 Oct 92 23:58:44 EST Message-Id: <9210290458.AA05552@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: S550/330 wanted Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1992 23:58:43 -0500 From: "neil herzinger" Status: R In article <40154@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (M) writes: >Need a Roland sampler, email if you got one for sale. > > >ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu > Just forwarding this from the r.m.s board. Make sure you email direct. neil From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Wed Oct 21 00:56:07 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168201-2>; Wed, 21 Oct 1992 00:56:01 -0400 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 21 Oct 92 00:55:57 -0400 Received: from world.std.com ([192.74.137.5]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <30821>; Wed, 21 Oct 1992 00:51:43 -0400 Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA12449; Wed, 21 Oct 1992 00:48:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1992 00:46:12 -0400 From: michael g moncur Subject: Samples at Taipan To: SGroup Post Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO I notice that there are several samples for the S-550 at the Taipan FTP site. How does one use these? Is there a utility for the PC or atari that will convert them into a sampler disk, or are they in some sort of sysex format that should be dumped to the 330 / 550? --------------------- Michael Moncur mgm@world.std.com (preferred) sysop@onlybbs.via.mind.org --------------------- From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Thu Oct 29 23:55:00 1992 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169871-2>; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 23:54:58 -0500 Received: from bcars520 ([192.58.194.73]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <33420>; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 23:46:09 -0500 X400-Received: by mta bcars520 in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 14:35:11 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 14:33:59 -0500 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Thu, 29 Oct 1992 04:15:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1992 04:15:00 -0500 X400-Originator: /DD.ID=1577285/G=Shiv/I=S/S=Naimpally/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars520.b.570:29.09.92.19.33.59] Original-Encoded-Information-Types: ia5, undefined X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: re:W-30 ROM w... From: "Shiv (S.) Naimpally" Message-ID: <"4637 Thu Oct 29 14:34:44 1992"@bnr.ca> To: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Cc: "Matt (M.) Cohen" , sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: re:W-30 ROM wounds Status: R I seem to recall that PA Decoder, which sells several upgrades for Roland samplers, will burn a ROM for you if you send them the sounds you want. You might want to check with them about this - it has been a year since I looked at their literature. Does anyone know of a SCSI I/F for the S330 ? I own an S330 and am tired of disk swapping. If anyone knows of one please post the phone number or address of the place that sells them. Thanks ! From taipan.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Fri Oct 30 22:29:44 1992 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <169509-2>; Fri, 30 Oct 1992 22:29:34 -0500 Received: from taipan.uwaterloo.ca by math.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 30 Oct 92 22:29:25 -0500 Received: from ac.dal.ca ([129.173.1.100]) by taipan.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <31055>; Fri, 30 Oct 1992 22:23:49 -0500 Received: from AC.DAL.CA by AC.DAL.CA (PMDF #2545 ) id <01GQJXDP5GDW000HY4@AC.DAL.CA>; Fri, 30 Oct 1992 08:30:20 -0300 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1992 06:30:20 -0500 From: Ray MacNeil Subject: Roland Upgrades from PA Decoder To: SGroup@taipan Message-Id: <01GQJXDP5GDY000HY4@AC.DAL.CA> X-Vms-To: IN%"SGroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: RO People are enquiring lately about PA Decoder upgrades for Roland equipment. I too would like to know about any upgrades available for the S-50 in particular. Anyone know anything about these? BTW, Neil the reason I ask is because I think I found a swap for my S-550. Ray MacNeil Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada