From ifi.uio.no!thomasfl Mon May 4 12:43:44 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53306>; Mon, 4 May 1992 12:43:33 -0400 Received: from ifi.uio.no by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 4 May 92 12:40:45 -0400 Received: from kolsaas.ifi.uio.no by ifi.uio.no with SMTP id ; Mon, 4 May 1992 18:40:31 +0200 From: Thomas Flemming Received: by kolsaas.ifi.uio.no ; Mon, 4 May 1992 18:40:30 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 12:40:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199205041640.AAkolsaas16422@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no> To: sgroup@taipan Cc: jonjen@lise.unit.no Subject: New sgroup FTP-site up Status: R I've started an FTP-program on the Mac I've got on the office. All you have to do is ftp sgroup@129.240.4.12 and type the password; moog. At the moment there's only two uncompressed samdisk-files there. 737280 04-05-92 goodie1.sdk 737280 04-05-92 goodie2.sdk 2934 04-05-92 read.me 8602 04-05-92 samdisk.doc 18054 04-05-92 samdisk.exe Seems to me the that the time saved in compressing files is lost with the time you'll use finding the uncompress program. Not to mention those who maybe not even have it. Unforanetely the Mac is in use at daytime between 10&16 GMT, so this site can only be running on an irregular basis. I've tried to place files on taipan.uwaterloo.ca but was refused. It's possible to place put on my Mac as well. Below is the ouput catalog for the two new samdisk files. I haven't set up any patches, just two standard 909 drumset crammed into 1.2 and 0.8 secs. The "Got to.." is a 7.2 sec. female chorus solo in 130BPM. All the drumloops are also in 130BPM, sampled from an XL compilation CD. Feel free to FTP! -Thomas Flemming =============================================================================== Title: Flemming's - goodies I GOT TO...--> 130BPM 1.May 1992 Type: S-50 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patch P11: STANDARD 909 Tone T11: REV HIT Tone T31: Patch P12: Tone T12: MUDDYBAS Tone T32: Patch P13: Tone T13: ACOU BAS Tone T33: Patch P14: Tone T14: GET UP.. Tone T34: Patch P15: Tone T15: CLOSE... Tone T35: Patch P16: Tone T16: BUMP&GRN Tone T36: Patch P17: Tone T17: GOT TO.. Tone T37: Patch P18: Tone T18: HIT Tone T38: Patch P21: Tone T21: PERC PAD Tone T41: Patch P22: Tone T22: 909 BD Tone T42: Patch P23: Tone T23: 909 SN 2 Tone T43: Patch P24: Tone T24: 909 HH 2 Tone T44: Patch P25: Tone T25: 909 OH 3 Tone T45: Patch P26: Tone T26: zap Tone T46: Patch P27: Tone T27: 909 RIM Tone T47: Patch P28: Tone T28: Tone T48: =============================================================================== Title: Flemming's - goodies II GOT TO...--> 130BPM 1.May 1992 Type: S-50 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patch P11: BD&SN 909 Tone T11: 130BREAK Tone T31: Patch P12: Tone T12: GOT TO.. Tone T32: Patch P13: Tone T13: 130 BPM Tone T33: Patch P14: Tone T14: 4-3-2-1! Tone T34: Patch P15: Tone T15: CLOSE... Tone T35: Patch P16: Tone T16: GET UP.. Tone T36: Patch P17: Tone T17: JUNGBEAT Tone T37: Patch P18: Tone T18: 909 BD Tone T38: Patch P21: Tone T21: 909 SN 2 Tone T41: Patch P22: Tone T22: Tone T42: Patch P23: Tone T23: Tone T43: Patch P24: Tone T24: Tone T44: Patch P25: Tone T25: Tone T45: Patch P26: Tone T26: Tone T46: Patch P27: Tone T27: Tone T47: Patch P28: Tone T28: Tone T48: From csource.oz.au!asstdc!scot Mon May 4 14:59:09 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53321>; Mon, 4 May 1992 14:58:56 -0400 Received: from munnari.OZ.AU by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 4 May 92 14:57:24 -0400 Received: from csource by munnari.oz.au with UUCP (5.64+1.3.1+0.50) id AA05670; Tue, 5 May 1992 04:56:58 +1000 (from asstdc!scot@csource.oz.au) Received: by csource.oz.au (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Tue, 05 May 92 04:22:51 -10 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Received: by asstdc.csource.cec.edu.au (Ping-1.0.8/Feb 09 1991) id AA00009; Fri, 01 May 92 10:45:16 +1000 Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1992 06:15:38 -0400 From: Scot Art Message-Id: <05545116.AA0009@asstdc.csource.cec.edu.au> Subject: FTP archive available for sgroup use To: sgroup@taipan Status: R > From: ulowell!usl.com!gfd (George Demarest +1 908 522 6363) 1. should the sgroup library be moved entirely to the ftp site? No, I don't have ftp access. Will send disks soon. :) Ciao, Scot. @Via RTrk+ 3:712/634@fidonet, Apr 30 1992 at 20:32 @Via RTrk+ 3:712/515@fidonet, May 1 1992 at 10:44 AEST @Via Ping 3:712/515@fidonet, May 1 1992 at 00:45 UTC From cis.ohio-state.edu!david!david Mon May 4 15:49:56 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53592>; Mon, 4 May 1992 15:49:41 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 4 May 92 15:47:46 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA00626; Mon, 4 May 92 15:45:17 -0400 Received: by david.UUCP (uA-1.5v4); Mon, 4 May 92 15:41:48 EST From: david!david@cis.ohio-state.edu (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: your ftpmail request has been received Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 16:41:48 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Sender: david!david@cis.ohio-state.edu (David A. Roth) Reply-To: david!david@cis.ohio-state.edu (David A. Roth) Message-Id: <0105009A.2m2trq@david.UUCP> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: R ----- Forward of letter <9204290741.AA11736@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com> from nobody@Pa.dec.com (ftpmail daemon on uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com): >>> this help file was last edited on 08-August-1991 >>> >>> commands are: reply set reply addr, since headers are usually wrong connect [HOST [USER [PASS]]] defaults to gatekeeper.dec.com, anonymous ascii files grabbed are printable ascii binary files grabbed are compressed or tar or both chdir PLACE "get" and "ls" commands are relative to PLACE (only one CHDIR per ftpmail session) compress compress binaries using Lempel-Ziv encoding compact compress binaries using Huffman encoding uuencode binary files will be mailed in uuencode format btoa binary files will be mailed in btoa format ls (or dir) PLACE short (long) directory listing get FILE get a file and have it mailed to you quit terminate script, ignore rest of mail message (use if you have a .signature or are a VMSMAIL user) >>> notes: -> you must give a "connect" command, default host is gatekeeper.dec.com, default user is anonymous, default password is your mail address. -> binary files will not be compressed unless 'compress' or 'compact' command is given; use this if at all possible, it helps a lot. -> binary files will always be formatted into printable ASCII with "btoa" or "uuencode" (default is "btoa"). -> all retrieved files will be split into 60KB chunks and mailed. -> VMS/DOS/Mac versions of uudecode, atob, compress and compact are available, ask your LOCAL wizard about them if you can't locate them (but try gatekeeper.dec.com in /archive/pub/VMS if you're still trapped on a VMS system.) -> several mail unsplitters are hiding on gatekeeper.dec.com in /pub/mail/ua/misc/unsplit. includes one in c, one in perl, and one in VMS DCL. >>> examples: -> connect to gatekeeper.dec.com and get a root directory listing: connect ls quit -> connect to gatekeeper.dec.com and get the README.ftp file: connect get README.ftp quit -> connect to gatekeeper.dec.com and get the gnuemacs sources: connect binary chdir /pub/GNU get emacs-18.57.tar.Z quit -> connect to uunet.uu.net as anonymous and get a root directory list: connect uunet.uu.net dir quit -- Ftpmail Submission Transcript -- <<< help >>> Help is on the way. -- End Of Ftpmail Transcript -- ----- End of forward. From jmsellen Mon May 4 17:09:38 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53643>; Mon, 4 May 1992 17:09:30 -0400 Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 4 May 92 17:08:39 -0400 Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53643>; Mon, 4 May 1992 17:08:20 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@taipan, thomasfl@ifi.uio.no Subject: Re: New sgroup FTP-site up Cc: jonjen@lise.unit.no Message-Id: <92May4.170820edt.53643@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 17:08:12 -0400 Status: R | From ifi.uio.no!thomasfl Mon May 4 12:43:44 1992 | From: Thomas Flemming | To: sgroup@taipan | Cc: jonjen@lise.unit.no | Subject: New sgroup FTP-site up | | Unforanetely the Mac is in use at daytime between 10&16 GMT, so this | site can only be running on an irregular basis. I've tried to place | files on taipan.uwaterloo.ca but was refused. It's possible to place | put on my Mac as well. taipan isn't set up to allow arbitrary people to put arbitrary files there. The last time I set up an incoming directory, there were 10 explicit beatiality GIF files there within an hour! There are lots of problems and maintenance headaches with allowing arbitrary file instalation. The last time I remember hearing from you, you asked about FTP, and I asked you to let me know, and I'd either FTP them from you, or get to to mail them, or work out something. It's probably less confusing to have one FTP archive, and if your Mac has other things to do, and is only available irregularly ... I ftp'd your files, and they're on taipan.uwaterloo.ca now. I haven't had a chance to test them to make sure they got here uncorrupted though ... John From ifi.uio.no!thomasfl Mon May 4 17:40:43 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53648>; Mon, 4 May 1992 17:40:38 -0400 Received: from ifi.uio.no by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 4 May 92 17:39:49 -0400 Received: from holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no by ifi.uio.no with SMTP id ; Mon, 4 May 1992 23:39:34 +0200 From: Thomas Flemming Received: by holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no ; Mon, 4 May 1992 23:39:33 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 May 1992 17:39:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199205042139.AAholmenkollen13411@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no> To: sgroup@taipan, jonjen@lise.unit.no In-Reply-To: "John M. Sellens"'s message of Mon, 4 May 1992 17:08:12 -0400 <92May4.170820edt.53643@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Subject: Re: New sgroup FTP-site up Status: R Ok, from now one my mac will only be open by appointment. But you're still welcome with request. Thanks again to John for running the ftp and mail service. -Thomas From slab.slip.uiuc.edu!derek Thu May 7 03:17:17 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53362>; Thu, 7 May 1992 03:16:47 -0400 Received: from slab.slip.uiuc.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 7 May 92 03:15:35 -0400 Received: by slab.slip.uiuc.edu id AA06381 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca); Thu, 7 May 1992 01:01:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 02:01:18 -0400 From: Derek Taubert Message-Id: <199205070601.AA06381@slab.slip.uiuc.edu> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Legality of ftping roland disks and other goodies Status: R I was just curious. Are the roland sound disks (the ones you can copy from a dealer) pretty much distributable to everyone? I was asking, cause I may just put the ones that I have up on my machine for anonymous ftp. I've got a bit of drive space, too, and might be willing to take on other disks too (haven't made up my mind yet). I'd like to fill out that collection, and I figured that putting up an anonymous ftp site would be a decent way of doing it without too much work. Before you get too happy about that, my machine is connected by a SLIP connection, but I have a pretty fast modem. Around 1k/sec is the average for compressed binary ftps. ****** Topic change ****** I looked at samdisk, and decided that it was simple enough that I'd just start from scratch. At any case, for anyone who has a NeXT (internal floppy), you can convert the sampler disks to a file with a single command. Converting back to the disk should just be the opposite. cat /dev/rfd0b >filename I'm in the process of writing a really cool sampler disk utility. Since when there is a sampler disk in the drive, /dev/rfd0b is exactly the same as a "samdisked" file, it makes life real easy. So far, you can take a disk (S-50, S-550, W-30), and convert all of the samples off of it to separate 16 bit signed raw sound files automatically (not too many sound converters can deal with 12 bit samples). This is really cool, cause it allows me to sample with 12 bit resolution on my W-30, and transfer the stuff to use on my NeXT. The built in ADC's (on the NeXT) only do 8-bit Mu-law sampling, and I'd have to spend a couple hundred to do 16 bit sampling. Soon, but not right now... At any case, I'm going to go ape with this utility, and may even have it doing some sample optimizing so that you can squeeze a couple more seconds of samples onto those disks. A full NeXT front end will be done, with tone and patch editors, and possibly even a sound editor. Give me suggestions, I'd love to hear them. The good stuff that I learn from all of this will be made public (like the format of the sampler disks), but most of the source code I'll keep to myself. When I get really brave, I'm going to try and add some more functions to my W-30's system disk. Anybody have a clue what microprocessor those things use? Derek From research.att.com!gjm Thu May 7 14:31:26 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53399>; Thu, 7 May 1992 14:31:12 -0400 Received: from research.att.com by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 7 May 92 14:25:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9205071825.AA01780@taipan.UWaterloo.ca> From: gjm@research.att.com Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 14:25:07 -0400 To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: disk format Status: R Thanks to samdisk, I decoded the disk format yesterday, only to read the message this morning about similar ongoing efforts. Anyway, I have the following: a) the deciphered (S-550) sample-disk format b) an ASCII sample-disk dump program c) a simple program to print the disk label and contents d) a simple program to convert to an 8-bit raw sample file I can view and listen to the raw 8-bit file on an Amiga to verify that I'm correctly interpreting the 2 12-bit-word to 3 8-bit-byte packing. If there is enough interest, I can post the sources here, and/or add them to the library. Any volunteers to write an Amiga 8SVX converter? -Gary From WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM!WLBR!pete Thu May 7 16:01:00 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53400>; Thu, 7 May 1992 16:00:53 -0400 Received: from WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 7 May 92 15:59:05 -0400 Received: from WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM by WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (5.65/1.25) id AA02267; Thu, 7 May 92 12:58:32 -0700 Received: by WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (5.61++/1.25) id AA22900; Thu, 7 May 92 12:58:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 15:58:26 -0400 From: pete%WLBR@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (Pete Lyall) Message-Id: <9205071958.AA22900@WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM> To: gjm@research.att.com, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: disk format Status: R Gary - Congrats! I'd be interested in your tools. Also, thanks for the Samdisk kudo. Pete Lyall From jmsellen Thu May 7 17:24:50 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53288>; Thu, 7 May 1992 17:24:48 -0400 Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 7 May 92 17:22:11 -0400 Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53378>; Thu, 7 May 1992 13:57:48 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: Legality of ftping roland disks and other goodies Message-Id: <92May7.135748edt.53378@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Thu, 7 May 1992 13:57:35 -0400 Status: R | From slab.slip.uiuc.edu!derek Thu May 7 03:17:17 1992 | From: Derek Taubert | To: sgroup@taipan | Subject: Legality of ftping roland disks and other goodies | | | I was just curious. Are the roland sound disks (the ones you can copy from a | dealer) pretty much distributable to everyone? I was asking, cause I may just | put the ones that I have up on my machine for anonymous ftp. I've got a bit | of drive space, too, and might be willing to take on other disks too (haven't | made up my mind yet). I'd like to fill out that collection, and I figured | that putting up an anonymous ftp site would be a decent way of doing it | without too much work. It appears that the Roland sample libraries are freely copyable. Or so everyone has often appeared to assume :-) | Before you get too happy about that, my machine is connected by a SLIP | connection, but I have a pretty fast modem. Around 1k/sec is the average for | compressed binary ftps. Why set up a separate FTP site, especially if you're behind a slow link? John From Eng.Sun.COM!Bay.Chang Fri May 8 13:49:39 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53276>; Fri, 8 May 1992 13:49:31 -0400 Received: from Sun.COM by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 8 May 92 13:47:49 -0400 Received: from Eng.Sun.COM (zigzag-bb.Corp.Sun.COM) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07561; Fri, 8 May 92 10:47:40 PDT Received: from traits.Eng.Sun.COM by Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12378; Fri, 8 May 92 10:47:37 PDT Received: by traits.Eng.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21606; Fri, 8 May 92 10:47:32 PDT Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 13:47:32 -0400 From: Bay.Chang@Eng.Sun.COM (Bay-Wei Chang) Message-Id: <9205081747.AA21606@traits.Eng.Sun.COM> To: sgroup@taipan Subject: re: modem tax Status: R Sorry, the subject line in my previous message was messed up; I'm referring to the message about modem taxing. > Apparently this is just another urban legend that resurfaces every few > months. Bay From husc.harvard.edu!henrik Sat May 9 23:05:14 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53337>; Sat, 9 May 1992 23:04:58 -0400 Received: from husc8.harvard.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Sat, 9 May 92 23:00:29 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 May 1992 23:00:17 -0400 From: henrik@husc.harvard.edu Message-Id: <9205100300.AA08322@husc8> To: don@encore.com Cc: sgroup@taipan In-Reply-To: Don Law's message of Fri, 8 May 92 14:09:18 EDT <1339.9205081809@ranger.encore.com> Subject: FCC tax Status: R the modem tax thing is a HOAX!!! I saw it on the net a few months ago, and a copule of uears ago, and sometime before that. don't send any letters. we don't need the attention ;-) larry... From Athena.MIT.EDU!wes Sat May 9 03:22:04 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53339>; Sat, 9 May 1992 03:21:59 -0400 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Sat, 9 May 92 03:20:22 -0400 Received: from E40-008-13.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA08009; Sat, 9 May 92 03:20:19 EDT From: wes@Athena.MIT.EDU Received: by e40-008-13.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA28910; Sat, 9 May 92 03:20:13 -0400 Message-Id: <9205090720.AA28910@e40-008-13.MIT.EDU> To: david!david@cis.ohio-state.edu (David A. Roth) Cc: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: modem tax news In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 08 May 92 11:05:33 -0500. <0105009A.3047re@david.UUCP> Date: Sat, 9 May 1992 03:20:10 -0400 Status: RO As some of you may know, this is long since a non-issue last I heard. Apparently the lack of House Bill number or some such is a tipoff that this thing is no longer current. Anyhow, disregard this modem tax bill thing. W From research.att.com!gjm Fri May 8 16:09:03 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53295>; Fri, 8 May 1992 16:08:51 -0400 Received: from research.att.com by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 8 May 92 16:06:38 -0400 Message-Id: <9205082006.AA00988@taipan.UWaterloo.ca> From: gjm@research.att.com Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 16:06:12 -0400 To: sgroup@taipan Subject: disk format and simple tools (shar file) Status: RO # This is a shell archive. # Remove everything above and including the cut line. # Then run the rest of the file through sh. #----cut here-----cut here-----cut here-----cut here----# #!/bin/sh # shar: Shell Archiver # Run the following text with /bin/sh to create: # README # rs12.h # raw8.c # samlabel.c # samprint.c # This archive created: Fri May 8 15:01:43 1992 cat << \SHAR_EOF > README rs12 (gjm@research.att.com) Fri May 8 15:53:48 EDT 1992 This package includes the following: rs12.h the deciphered (S-550) sample-disk format raw8.c convert sample data to an 8-bit raw sample file samprint.c detailed sample-disk dump in ASCII samlabel.c print sample-disk label and contents The sources are copyrighted but freely distributable for your own non-comercial use. Thanks to Pete Lyall for samdisk so that this could be done. I'd be interested in seeing the following: 1) an Amiga 8SVX converter Gary J. Murakami gjm@research.att.com [[ added to the ftp archive on taipan.uwaterloo.ca as pub/sgroup/utilities/disk-tools.shar -jms ]] From slab.slip.uiuc.edu!derek Fri May 8 16:36:55 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53295>; Fri, 8 May 1992 16:36:47 -0400 Received: from slab.slip.uiuc.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 8 May 92 16:35:15 -0400 Received: by slab.slip.uiuc.edu id AA08401 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca); Fri, 8 May 1992 15:30:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 16:30:07 -0400 From: Derek Taubert Message-Id: <199205082030.AA08401@slab.slip.uiuc.edu> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: RSB-550 series disks Status: RO I have placed all that I have of the RSB-550 disks on slab.slip.uiuc.edu for anonymous ftp (/samples/S-550/RSB-550). I encourage you to upload anything that isn't already there to /incoming. Files will be kept as disk space allows, and I'm looking around for compression routines for these disks. I've tried compress, but it doesn't always have good results. I'll be adding the additional info that is contained in a W-30 disk to rs12.h, and re-posting it soon. Does anyone know the format of the S-50's patchParameter? As far as I can see, that's about the only difference from a S-550 disk. Derek From slab.slip.uiuc.edu!derek Fri May 8 17:20:01 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53337>; Fri, 8 May 1992 17:19:51 -0400 Received: from slab.slip.uiuc.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 8 May 92 17:17:26 -0400 Received: by slab.slip.uiuc.edu id AA08693 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca); Fri, 8 May 1992 16:10:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 17:10:49 -0400 From: Derek Taubert Message-Id: <199205082110.AA08693@slab.slip.uiuc.edu> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: And the SLIP line goes nuts... Status: RO ftp 8546 1.3 2.0 1.27M 320K ? S 0:02 -deimos.a (ftpd) ftp 8492 0.2 1.8 1.27M 296K ? S 0:09 -Sun.COM: (ftpd) ftp 8606 0.0 2.2 1.27M 360K ? S 0:00 -amway.ch (ftpd) ftp 8675 0.0 2.3 1.27M 376K ? S 0:00 -hubio1.h (ftpd) EEEKKK... If you could only see the lights on this modem... You'll possibly have REALLY bad transfer times, please let me know what they were, I'm really curious. I'll try and install a new ftpd that only allows a couple of people on at a time. Derek From cis.ohio-state.edu!david!david Fri May 8 17:43:42 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53276>; Fri, 8 May 1992 17:43:36 -0400 Received: from saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 8 May 92 17:41:37 -0400 Received: by saqqara.cis.ohio-state.edu (5.61-kk/5.911008) id AA21512; Fri, 8 May 92 17:41:12 -0400 Received: by david.UUCP (uA-1.5v4); Fri, 8 May 92 16:36:52 EST From: david!david@cis.ohio-state.edu (David A. Roth) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: disk format and simple tools (shar file) Date: Fri, 8 May 1992 17:36:52 -0400 Organization: DAVID A. ROTH MUSIC Reply-To: david!david@cis.ohio-state.edu ( David A. Roth ) Message-Id: <0105009A.30nl2f@david.UUCP> X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4 Status: RO Anyone working on a Mac version? The HD drives can read/write the Roland disk format. David From jmsellen Mon May 11 17:44:14 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53350>; Mon, 11 May 1992 17:44:08 -0400 Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 11 May 92 17:43:16 -0400 Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53350>; Mon, 11 May 1992 17:43:06 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: gjm@research.att.com, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: disk format and simple tools (shar file) Message-Id: <92May11.174306edt.53350@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 17:43:05 -0400 Status: R | From research.att.com!gjm Fri May 8 16:09:03 1992 | From: gjm@research.att.com | To: sgroup@taipan | Subject: disk format and simple tools (shar file) | | This package includes the following: | | rs12.h the deciphered (S-550) sample-disk format | raw8.c convert sample data to an 8-bit raw sample file | samprint.c detailed sample-disk dump in ASCII | samlabel.c print sample-disk label and contents I added Gary's cool source code to the ftp archive on taipan.uwaterloo.ca as pub/sgroup/utilities/disk-tools.shar John From jmsellen Mon May 11 17:59:25 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53353>; Mon, 11 May 1992 17:59:18 -0400 Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 11 May 92 17:56:26 -0400 Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53363>; Mon, 11 May 1992 17:56:17 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: RSB-550 series disks Message-Id: <92May11.175617edt.53363@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 17:56:14 -0400 Status: R | From slab.slip.uiuc.edu!derek Fri May 8 16:36:55 1992 | From: Derek Taubert | To: sgroup@taipan | Subject: RSB-550 series disks | | | I have placed all that I have of the RSB-550 disks on slab.slip.uiuc.edu for | anonymous ftp (/samples/S-550/RSB-550). I encourage you to upload anything | that isn't already there to /incoming. Files will be kept as disk space | allows, and I'm looking around for compression routines for these disks. I've | tried compress, but it doesn't always have good results. I think I've now stolen all the samples on Derek's machine and put them on taipan, so you can give Derek's poor little SLIP link a little breathing room now :-) Thanks Derek! From jmsellen Mon May 11 18:05:16 1992 Received: from math.waterloo.edu ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53363>; Mon, 11 May 1992 18:05:07 -0400 Received: from taipan.waterloo.edu by math.waterloo.edu with SMTP id ; Mon, 11 May 92 18:04:57 -0400 Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 11 May 92 17:43:16 -0400 Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53350>; Mon, 11 May 1992 17:43:06 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: gjm@research.att.com, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: disk format and simple tools (shar file) Message-Id: <92May11.174306edt.53350@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Mon, 11 May 1992 17:43:05 -0400 Status: R | From research.att.com!gjm Fri May 8 16:09:03 1992 | From: gjm@research.att.com | To: sgroup@taipan | Subject: disk format and simple tools (shar file) | | This package includes the following: | | rs12.h the deciphered (S-550) sample-disk format | raw8.c convert sample data to an 8-bit raw sample file | samprint.c detailed sample-disk dump in ASCII | samlabel.c print sample-disk label and contents I added Gary's cool source code to the ftp archive on taipan.uwaterloo.ca as pub/sgroup/utilities/disk-tools.shar John From ruunfs.fys.ruu.nl!vansark Wed May 13 04:23:49 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53367>; Wed, 13 May 1992 04:23:39 -0400 Received: from [131.211.32.68] by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 13 May 92 04:21:14 -0400 Received: by ruunfs.fys.ruu.nl id AA02811 (5.65b+/IDA-1.4.3 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca); Wed, 13 May 92 10:21:08 +0200 From: Wilfried van Sark Message-Id: <9205130821.AA02811@ruunfs.fys.ruu.nl> Subject: disk-utils To: sgroup@taipan (Sample Users Group) Date: Wed, 13 May 1992 05:21:07 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: RO Hi, I just received the disktools: samprint, samlabel, raw8 in their source code. I cannot compile them on my PC (TurboC 2.0). On our UNIX mainframe they compile very well. It has something to do with array sizes on the PC. Solutions?? -- ==TheWilf== aka Wilfried G.J.H.M. van Sark, (email: vansark@fys.ruu.nl) w w Utrecht Univ., Dept. of Atomic and Interface Physics, w w w P.O. Box 80000, 3508 TA Utrecht, The Netherlands. w w (tel: +31 - 30 533173) (fax: +31 - 30 543165) "Anything CAN be music, but it doesn't BECOME MUSIC until someone WILLS it to be music, and the audience listening to it decides to PERCEIVE IT AS MUSIC" Frank Zappa in "The Real Frank Zappa book" (1989). From WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM!WLBR!pete Wed May 13 10:47:46 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53367>; Wed, 13 May 1992 10:47:32 -0400 Received: from WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Wed, 13 May 92 10:46:08 -0400 Received: from WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM by WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (5.65/1.25) id AA17618; Wed, 13 May 92 07:45:33 -0700 Received: by WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (5.61++/1.25) id AA04448; Wed, 13 May 92 07:45:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 May 1992 10:45:26 -0400 From: pete%WLBR@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (Pete Lyall) Message-Id: <9205131445.AA04448@WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM> To: sgroup@taipan, vansark@fys.ruu.nl Subject: Re: disk-utils Status: RO Agreed - I believe the utility calls for the whole disk to be opened and read directly into RAM.... at 720K, this is pretty unlikely under DOS. Someone will need to partition it so that it reads the appropriate elements in chunks, and then decodes them in chunks..... Pete Lyall From slab.slip.uiuc.edu!derek Sun May 17 05:51:24 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53264>; Sun, 17 May 1992 05:51:17 -0400 Received: from slab.slip.uiuc.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Sun, 17 May 92 05:50:34 -0400 Received: by slab.slip.uiuc.edu id AA17314 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@taipan.waterloo.edu); Sun, 17 May 1992 04:44:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 17 May 1992 05:44:23 -0400 From: Derek Taubert Message-Id: <199205170944.AA17314@slab.slip.uiuc.edu> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: nslookup slab.slip.uiuc.edu Status: R >For those of us that don't know, can you post the internet address of slip. >.. uiuc.edu? Thanks!! >-Matt Name: slab.slip.uiuc.edu Address: 128.174.22.38 From UNB.CA!A0NJ Thu May 21 14:39:37 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53275>; Thu, 21 May 1992 14:39:20 -0400 Received: from unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 21 May 92 14:38:29 -0400 Received: from unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca by UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca (IBM MVS SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 5360; Thu, 21 May 92 15:14:03 ADT Received: by UNBMVS1 (Mailer 15.12) id 6995; Thu, 21 May 92 14:45:27 ADT Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 13:45:27 -0400 Comments: <21MAY92.15939826.0043.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: Greg Patterson To: Subject: W-30 offsets Message-Id: Status: R Can anyone tell me the offsets to the waveform data contained in the W-30 disks stored at taipan.uwaterloo.ca? I want to extract the RAW waveform data for use on the S550. thanks. dhomas trenn. From UNB.CA!A0NJ Thu May 21 14:40:47 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53275>; Thu, 21 May 1992 14:40:41 -0400 Received: from unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 21 May 92 14:39:24 -0400 Received: from unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca by UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca (IBM MVS SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 5447; Thu, 21 May 92 15:16:16 ADT Received: by UNBMVS1 (Mailer 15.12) id 7302; Thu, 21 May 92 15:10:04 ADT Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 14:10:04 -0400 Comments: <21MAY92.15964986.0043.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: Greg Patterson To: Subject: S-550 archive. Message-Id: Status: R Is anyone planning on making some more S-550 / S-50 sounds available through the taipan FTP site? dhomas trenn. From slab.slip.uiuc.edu!derek Thu May 21 15:38:38 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53318>; Thu, 21 May 1992 15:38:31 -0400 Received: from slab.slip.uiuc.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 21 May 92 15:38:01 -0400 Received: by slab.slip.uiuc.edu id AA21105 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca); Thu, 21 May 1992 14:32:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 21 May 1992 15:32:08 -0400 From: Derek Taubert Message-Id: <199205211932.AA21105@slab.slip.uiuc.edu> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: W-30 offsets Status: R >Can anyone tell me the offsets to the waveform data contained in the >W-30 disks stored at taipan.uwaterloo.ca? I want to extract the RAW >waveform data for use on the S550. Same as the S550. /* 0 - 1FF General disk info 200 - DFF ??? E00 - D7F0 Song data (W-30 Sound & Song Data Disk) D800 - F7FF ROM Parameters (W-30 Sound & Song Data Disk) F800 - FBFF ROM Entries (W-30 Sound & Song Data Disk) FC00 - 10BFF Patch Parameters (S-50 differs from W-30 and S-550) 10C00 - 10DFF FUNC then MIDI Parameters 10E00 - 11DFF Tone Parameters 11E00 - 11FFF Tone Entries 12000 - 62FFF Sample Bank A 63000 - B3FFF Sample Bank B */ The W-30 and S550 disks are so darn close, I'm surprised that you can't just read them like S550 disks. Did you try that? Derek