From andrew.cmu.edu!nh0n+ Wed Apr 8 22:13:47 1992 Received: from andrew.cmu.edu ([128.2.11.131]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53318>; Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:13:43 -0400 Received: by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id ; Wed, 8 Apr 92 16:51:44 EDT Received: via switchmail for sgroup+@andrew.cmu.edu; Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for sgroup+; Wed, 8 Apr 92 16:48:07 EDT Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53500>; Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:47:33 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: My apologies, and test message ... Message-Id: <92Apr8.164733edt.53500@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:35:04 -0400 Status: RO In getting ready to move the sgroup mail alias here, I fumble fingered myself a message off to the current list, so I think I just accidentally dropped a garbage message in your mailboxes - my apologies. But - this will serve as a test message. I am sending this to the current list maintained by Neil at CMU. Within a day, I will send another via the alias at Waterloo. If you get this message, and you don't get the next (which will be clearly labelled as such), please let me know, and I'll fix the list. Thanks much John Sellens neophyte apprentice sgroup mailing list maintainer jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From jmsellen Thu Apr 9 01:51:05 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53364>; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:50:54 -0400 Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 9 Apr 92 01:48:26 -0400 Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53364>; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:48:23 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@taipan Subject: test of new sgroup mailing list Message-Id: <92Apr9.014823edt.53364@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:48:22 -0400 Status: R Earlier today, I sent a test message to Neil's sgroup mailing list at CMU. This message is being sent to the new sgroup mailing list at U of Waterloo. (Let's call the previous message test 1, and this one test 2.) If you didn't receive both of these messages, please let me know. The new addresses for the sgroup list will be sgroup-request@taipan.uwaterloo.ca for addition/deletion requests, and sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca for submissions to the list. The list will be unmoderated, so anything you send will be sent out to the list almost immediately. And, for a real human contact, that's me. Please let me know if you notice any errors, or anything strange. John Sellens University of Waterloo Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3G1 Canada 519-888-4594 jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Hope this works ...) From andrew.cmu.edu!nh0n+ Thu Apr 9 02:52:43 1992 Received: from andrew.cmu.edu ([128.2.11.131]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53375>; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:52:40 -0400 Received: by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for jmsellens@watdragon.waterloo.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 92 02:48:50 EDT Received: via switchmail for sgroup+@andrew.cmu.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for sgroup+; Thu, 9 Apr 92 02:46:56 EDT Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53375>; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:46:51 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: final test message for sgroup mailing list Message-Id: <92Apr9.024651edt.53375@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:46:39 -0400 Status: R This is "test 3" - I'm sending this message to the original list at CMU. You should have received a message previous to this called "test 2" which gave the new addresses and so on. If you didn't get that message, please let me know. If you don't let me know, you're in danger of dropping off the sgroup mailing list. A copy of the test message is attached below for reference purposes. John From jmsellen Thu Apr 9 01:48:21 1992 To: sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca Subject: test of new sgroup mailing list Earlier today, I sent a test message to Neil's sgroup mailing list at CMU. This message is being sent to the new sgroup mailing list at U of Waterloo. (Let's call the previous message test 1, and this one test 2.) If you didn't receive both of these messages, please let me know. The new addresses for the sgroup list will be sgroup-request@taipan.uwaterloo.ca for addition/deletion requests, and sgroup@taipan.uwaterloo.ca for submissions to the list. The list will be unmoderated, so anything you send will be sent out to the list almost immediately. And, for a real human contact, that's me. Please let me know if you notice any errors, or anything strange. John Sellens University of Waterloo Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3G1 Canada 519-888-4594 jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From jmsellen Thu Apr 9 17:41:48 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53335>; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:41:39 -0400 Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Thu, 9 Apr 92 17:39:38 -0400 Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53335>; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:39:35 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@taipan Subject: FTP archive available for sgroup use Message-Id: <92Apr9.173935edt.53335@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:39:27 -0400 Status: R I have made a small repository of sgroup related stuff available via anonymous ftp on taipan.uwaterloo.ca. Currently, it contains the introductory messages for the group, information about the sample library the George maintains and so on (documents I received from Neil), and copies of the samdisk program for PCs, and the DART program for Macintoshes. There is a directory there labelled "samples" in which I hope to place sample disks if anyone is interested (and wants to send me some). Any on-line samples would probably be rotated i.e. there won't be hundreds of MBs of samples on-line at the same time. Anyway, let me know if you have anything that would be useful to add. John Sellens apprentice sgroup maintainer jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca From WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM!WLBR!pete Thu Apr 9 20:40:43 1992 Received: from WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM ([192.26.147.1]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53356>; Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:40:40 -0400 Received: from WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM by WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (5.65/1.25) id AA01165; Thu, 9 Apr 92 17:37:46 -0700 Received: by WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (5.61++/1.25) id AA28998; Thu, 9 Apr 92 17:37:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:37:41 -0400 From: pete%WLBR@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (Pete Lyall) Message-Id: <9204100037.AA28998@WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM> To: jmsellen@watdragon.waterloo.edu, sgroup@taipan.waterloo.edu Subject: Re: FTP archive available for sgroup use Status: R John - That's great! I'll see about getting some samples posted in the next few days. Pete Lyall From andrew.cmu.edu!nh0n+ Fri Apr 10 15:42:56 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53355>; Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:42:40 -0400 Received: from ANDREW.CMU.EDU by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:38:58 -0400 Received: by andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for sgroup@taipan.waterloo.edu; Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:38:32 EDT Received: via switchmail; Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcs11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcs11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.0.1.873.MacMail.0.9.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.pcs11.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <0dtStKK00iUxI4wmQC@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:36:54 -0400 From: Neil Anthony Herzinger To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: FTP archive available for sgroup use In-Reply-To: <92Apr9.173935edt.53335@watdragon.waterloo.edu> References: <92Apr9.173935edt.53335@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Status: RO The FTP set-up sounds very cool, Thanks for doing that. About how many samples are you going to be able to fit at one time? (I guess we need a unit of reference, how about seconds at 30Khz?) neil From WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM!WLBR!pete Mon Apr 13 10:00:26 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53330>; Mon, 13 Apr 1992 10:00:17 -0400 Received: from [192.26.147.1] by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 13 Apr 92 09:56:41 -0400 Received: from WLBR.147.26.192.IN-ADDR.ARPA by WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (5.65/1.25) id AA09485; Mon, 13 Apr 92 06:56:33 -0700 Received: by WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (5.61++/1.25) id AA24531; Mon, 13 Apr 92 06:56:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:56:28 -0400 From: pete%WLBR@WLV.IMSD.CONTEL.COM (Pete Lyall) Message-Id: <9204131356.AA24531@WLBR.IMSD.CONTEL.COM> To: jmsellen@watdragon, sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: FTP archive available for sgroup use Status: R Samples typically don't compress too well, unless the disk was largely empty. A 737K file will shrink to somewhere bewteen 530K and 640K. Pete Lyall From uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!postmaster Tue Apr 14 00:37:22 1992 Received: from taipan ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53328>; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:37:14 -0400 Received: from [128.174.5.50] by taipan with SMTP id ; Mon, 13 Apr 92 18:00:16 -0400 Received: from slab.slip.uiuc.edu by uxc.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA05968 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:47:12 -0500 Received: by slab.slip.uiuc.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA13904; Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:44:53 CDT Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:44:53 -0400 From: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert) Message-Id: <9204132044.AA13904@slab.slip.uiuc.edu> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: FTP archive available for sgroup use Status: RO >I have made a small repository of sgroup related stuff available >via anonymous ftp on taipan.uwaterloo.ca. Currently, it contains Little something from a shell window: =>$ ftp -i taipan.uwaterloo.ca =>ftp: connect: Connection refused =>ftp> What gives? Derek From andrew.cmu.edu!nh0n+ Tue Apr 14 05:23:07 1992 Received: from watmath.waterloo.edu ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53389>; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:23:02 -0400 Received: from watserv1.waterloo.edu by watmath.waterloo.edu with SMTP id ; Tue, 14 Apr 92 02:17:28 -0400 Received: from taipan.waterloo.edu by watserv1.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 14 Apr 92 02:16:11 -0400 Received: from PO5.ANDREW.CMU.EDU by taipan with SMTP id ; Tue, 14 Apr 92 02:13:51 -0400 Received: by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for sgroup@taipan.waterloo.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 92 02:13:46 EDT Received: via switchmail; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VUI.Andrew.3.20.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:13:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:13:11 -0400 From: Neil Anthony Herzinger To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: FTP archive available for sgroup use Status: RO After reading Don's post I tried it out, everything worked fine here. Must be an isolated problem... neil From andrew.cmu.edu!nh0n+ Tue Apr 14 05:23:08 1992 Received: from watmath.waterloo.edu ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53388>; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:23:01 -0400 Received: from taipan.waterloo.edu by watmath.waterloo.edu with SMTP id ; Tue, 14 Apr 92 02:17:09 -0400 Received: from PO3.ANDREW.CMU.EDU by taipan with SMTP id ; Tue, 14 Apr 92 02:14:51 -0400 Received: by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for sgroup@taipan.waterloo.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 92 02:14:43 EDT Received: via switchmail; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VUI.Andrew.3.20.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:14:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 02:14:23 -0400 From: Neil Anthony Herzinger To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: FTP archive available for sgroup use Status: RO Sorry Derek, of course I meant you and not Don who I haven't heard from in a while. I'm a little tired at 2:15 :-) neil From andrew.cmu.edu!nh0n+ Tue Apr 14 17:56:30 1992 Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu ([128.2.10.105]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53376>; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:56:26 -0400 Received: by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for jmsellens@watdragon.waterloo.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:48:24 EDT Received: via switchmail; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VUI.Andrew.3.20.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.unix3.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:46:31 -0400 From: Neil Anthony Herzinger To: Sgroup Subject: Re: FTP again Status: RO Derek, try typing 'anonymous' for login and password, that's what I do and it works for me. neil From jmsellen Tue Apr 14 23:16:39 1992 Received: from taipan ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53389>; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:16:28 -0400 Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by taipan with SMTP id ; Tue, 14 Apr 92 23:15:19 -0400 Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53389>; Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:15:09 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: FTP archive available for sgroup use Message-Id: <92Apr14.231509edt.53389@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:14:57 -0400 Status: R | =>$ ftp -i taipan.uwaterloo.ca | =>ftp: connect: Connection refused | =>ftp> | | What gives? | | Derek That was yesterday afternoon, when the machine was in single user mode for a while while disks were being shuffled. Relatively few computers and networks are always up and working and connected. | $ ftp -i nigel.ee.udel.edu | Connected to nigel.ee.udel.edu. | 220 nigel.ee.udel.edu FTP server (SunOS 4.1) ready. | Name (nigel.ee.udel.edu:derek): anonymous | 331 Guest login ok, send ident as password. | Password: | 550 Can't set guest privileges. | Login failed. | ftp> 221 Goodbye. Looks like that particular machine (any particular reason you're trying to call that machine?) doesn't allow anonymous FTP. Nothing too strange about that. From jmsellen Wed Apr 15 15:04:33 1992 Received: from watmath.waterloo.edu ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53365>; Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:02:57 -0400 Received: from taipan.waterloo.edu by watmath.waterloo.edu with SMTP id ; Sat, 11 Apr 92 22:26:05 -0400 Received: from watdragon.waterloo.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Sat, 11 Apr 92 22:16:52 -0400 Received: by watdragon.waterloo.edu id <53331>; Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:16:38 -0400 From: "John M. Sellens" To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: FTP archive available for sgroup use Message-Id: <92Apr11.221638edt.53331@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:16:33 -0400 Status: R | From andrew.cmu.edu!nh0n+ Fri Apr 10 15:42:56 1992 | From: Neil Anthony Herzinger | To: sgroup@taipan | Subject: Re: FTP archive available for sgroup use | References: <92Apr9.173935edt.53335@watdragon.waterloo.edu> | | The FTP set-up sounds very cool, Thanks for doing that. About how many | samples are you going to be able to fit at one time? (I guess we need a | unit of reference, how about seconds at 30Khz?) | | neil I don't have any idea actually. If there ends up being too many, I can save them to tape, and stage them in and out on some kind of rotation. The partition that they would be on currently has 150MB free, but I can't use all of that :-) I would envisage storing them as compressed disk images as read and written by samdisk on a PC. I don't know how well samples compress. John From tinton.ccur.com!kom Mon Apr 27 20:39:51 1992 Received: from watmath.waterloo.edu ([129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53448>; Mon, 27 Apr 1992 20:39:43 -0400 Received: from taipan.waterloo.edu by watmath.waterloo.edu with SMTP id ; Mon, 27 Apr 92 19:38:36 -0400 Received: from gauss.tinton.ccur.com by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 27 Apr 92 19:13:35 -0400 Received: from cantor by gauss.tinton.ccur.com id aa02007; 27 Apr 92 19:11 EDT Subject: SCSI adaptor... To: Roland UserGroup Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1992 19:11:14 -0400 From: Keith O McConnell X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Message-Id: <9204271911.aa03512@cantor.tinton.ccur.com> Status: R Does anyone out there operate the S-550 with an external hard-disk drive hooked up through the SCSI adaptor which can be bought for it? I am curious to know what file management is like. Can individual samples or patches be loaded, or must the files be grouped as though they were on a 3.5 in. diskette? What is the access time compared with reading samples from diskette? -- /=======================================================================\ | Keith McConnell | | Fortran Compiler Group ________ | | Tinton Falls, NJ / _____/__ | | /__/____/ / | | e-mail: kom@tinton.ccur.com Concurrent /_______/ | | Voice: (908) 758-7289 Computer Corporation | \=======================================================================/ From slab.slip.uiuc.edu!slab!derek Mon Apr 27 20:46:00 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53339>; Mon, 27 Apr 1992 20:45:53 -0400 Received: from uxc.cso.uiuc.edu by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 27 Apr 92 20:44:35 -0400 Received: from slab.slip.uiuc.edu by uxc.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA06996 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 27 Apr 1992 19:44:10 -0500 Received: by slab.slip.uiuc.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA00979; Mon, 27 Apr 92 19:40:34 CDT Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1992 20:40:34 -0400 From: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert) Message-Id: <9204280040.AA00979@slab.slip.uiuc.edu> Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.63) To: sgroup@taipan Subject: Re: SCSI adaptor... Status: R Speaking of SCSI stuff, does anybody know where I can get the upgrade for a W-30? Dealer says that Roland doesn't make them anymore (big surprise here), and I'd really like to get one. Derek From UNB.CA!A0NJ Tue Apr 28 09:57:14 1992 Received: from taipan.UWaterloo.ca ([129.97.108.61]) by watdragon.waterloo.edu with SMTP id <53295>; Tue, 28 Apr 1992 09:57:10 -0400 Received: from unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca by taipan.UWaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Tue, 28 Apr 92 09:55:54 -0400 Received: from unbmvs1.csd.unb.ca by UNBMVS1.csd.unb.ca (IBM MVS SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 7279; Tue, 28 Apr 92 10:53:42 AST Received: by UNBMVS1 (Mailer 15.11) id 2583; Tue, 28 Apr 92 10:53:20 ADT Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1992 09:53:20 -0400 Comments: <28APR92.11791204.0039.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: Greg Patterson To: Subject: S550 samples. Message-Id: Status: R I noticed that there are no samples at the FRP site, yet. I would be interested in some orchestral samples for the S550. Especially, strings, woodwinds, and french horn. Ethnic percussion samples would also be a treat. Thanks. dhomas trenn.