From mailbox.syr.edu!naherzin Sat Oct 31 20:41:36 1992 Received: from mailbox.syr.edu ([128.230.18.5]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <168411-1>; Sat, 31 Oct 1992 20:41:34 -0500 Received: from rodan.acs.syr.edu by mailbox.syr.edu (4.1/CNS) id AA10373; Sat, 31 Oct 92 20:42:13 EST Received: by rodan.acs.syr.edu (4.1/Spike-2.0) id AA01132; Sat, 31 Oct 92 20:37:27 EST Message-Id: <9211010137.AA01132@rodan.acs.syr.edu> To: jmsellen@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca Subject: 1990 July Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 20:37:26 -0500 From: "neil herzinger" Status: R >From: Thomas Flemming Date: Wed, 4 Jul 1990 13:27:24 +0200 To: sgroup@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: W30 SySex I've recently purchased a copy of the Avalon sample editing software for Atari. But there is a small problem ,the W30 doesn't seem to either send or recieve any kind of SYSEX messages except those stored in the sequencer! If someone could please send me the Email address to Roland I would very thankful. I have some nasty things to tell those guys. Also I would appreciate any information about the software upgrade thats beeing developed. Thomas Flemming -- Date: Wed, 4 Jul 90 15:34:15 -0400 (EDT) >From: Neil Anthony Herzinger To: Sgroup Subject: Re: W30 Sysex Is there an email address to Roland? If so, I'd love to get it too. It would be interesting to inform them of the existance of this group. I could also bitch about some support problems of theirs. neil -- Date: Wed, 4 Jul 90 23:51:59 PDT >From: Peter Delevoryas To: nh0n+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: W30 Sysex Did I tell this group what happened when I tried to complain about some vaporware of theirs that they described as a 'feature'? After a letter to the BBB, I then called the Vice-President, who was very hostile and did not offer ANY help - (she also said she was not authorized to give refunds - I guess only the Pres. can do that ???). Anyway, if anyone wants to give them some of their mind, let me know, I'd be glad to get my two cents in also. Wow, I'm normally a mild-mannered kind of guy, but when someone mentions Roland customer support - *&^$%#$@$^@!!!*!&!*!$! BTW - the problem is with the S-550 sequencer software. Ever try to save the sequences to hard disk, like it says in their brochure? Nope, doesn't exist. Or, ever try to save more than one operating system to hard disk, like it says you can with the HD5-IF hard disk interface? All you S-550 owners with hard disks know what I'm talking about. To be fair, though, their stuff does have some nice features, too.... okay, that's enough praise.... Peter D. -- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 90 14:27:27 -0400 (EDT) >From: Neil Anthony Herzinger To: Sgroup Subject: Mac Software Hey s-people, I will soon be adding a Mac SE 40/2 to my set up. I have been out of the computer game for a while and have only surface knowledge of music software. Up to this point have been using a Yamaha computer that I will neglegt to name. (I got it cheap, it did what I wanted). The Mac is coming for school as well as music (I can get a good price through my university). Anyway.... Could people in the know describe the software available for the dealing with samplers, or Roland samplers in particular (I have an S50). Thanks neil -- Date: Fri, 13 Jul 90 11:43:23 PDT >From: Peter Delevoryas To: nh0n+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Mac Software Well, I'm not that much in the know about all the software for Mac, but I use Vision by Opcode - it's a sequencer program (high end), about $350. It'll do njust about anything you want it to, and some the things you wouldn't even think about. I use it to create sequences for my S-550. For sample editing, there are a few universal sample editing programs - Alchemy, SoundTools by Digidesign. If you really need more info, I can check into what's available, but most good music stores or magazines such as keyboard or electronic musician will have information on Mac software. Peter D. -- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 90 23:45:09 -0400 (EDT) >From: Neil Anthony Herzinger To: Sgroup Subject: Mistake... I screwed up my distribution list briefly, two messages bounced. I will repost them (just ignore the 'Returned Mail' subject headings). neil -- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 90 09:38:44 -0400 >From: Don Law To: sgroup+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Hello, my name is ... Hello, everyone. I'm one of the new guys in the group that Neil was talking about. I thought I would introduce myself. First of all, a special thanks to Neil for administering this thing! Here is a summary of what I have and what I do: NAME: Don Law HOME ADDRESS: 722 SW 81st Avenue #10A / North Lauderdale, FL 33068 WORK: Encore Computer Corporation / Fort Lauderdale, FL 33313 HOME PHONE: (305) 722-4016 WORK PHONE: (305) 587-2900 EQUIPMENT OWNED: SYNTHS: Roland- S-10 Sampler Yamaha- FB-01 Sound generator (4 op FM 8 voice multi) Yamaha- RX-15 Drum Machine Yamaha- CS60 - ANALOG! KNOBS! Maybe for sale. Kawai- MS710 - baby keys, lounge-lizard, but nice MIDI OTHER MIDI: Yamaha- YME8 2x8 Midi Splitter MusicQuest - PC Midi Card (MPU401 compatible) COMPUTER: IBM/XT Clone SEQUENCER: Voyetra Sequencer Plus Mark II INSTRUMENTS: Carvin LB70 Bass Guitar AMP: Plush P1000S Tube Amp w/ 2x15 speaker cabinet EFFECTS: DOD FX80B Compressor/Sustainer OTHER: Tektronix 454 Dual Trace Oscilloscope ACCESS TO: Yamaha- PSR-70 Casio- CZ-1 STYLE: Christian contemporary, pop. INFLUENCES: Everybody I listen to. REAL JOB: Development of parallel real-time Ada runtime systems. EMAIL: Internet: dlaw@encore.com Usenet: ...!uunet!gould!dlaw CURRENT MUSICAL ACTIVITIES: I play bass in "Crossover," a Christian (very non-profit) band. We have: me on bass, drums, guitar, vocal singer, and my XT on keys. We just had our first mini-concert in our local church sanctuary - it was great! Big room with nice acoustics. My first question for the Roland sample user's group: Does anyone know of a good source for those 2.8 inch "Quick disks" that the S-10 uses? I can buy them locally for $3 each. --Don -- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 90 09:16:14 -0500 >From: "Derek A. Taubert" To: sgroup+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: New to the group Well, I suppose I'm the other one who is new to this group. Hello to all. I'm afraid that I'm not quite as interesting as the other guys, but I'm working on it. I'm a student (Electrical Engineering) at the University of Illinois and I'm in a band back in my hometown. I play keyboard and sing most of the vocals. My equipment list is small, I don't have a job here at school, and it's hard to buy electronics with air. I have a roland W-30 that I got a few months ago, and an Apple IIgs that I program on a regular basis. I have all the midi equipment needed to interface the two, but I have yet to splurge for the software. So I have a few questions: 1) Does anyone with a IIgs have the mastertracks program? How does it rate? 2) I'm looking for some heavy electronic lead synth samples... I'll explain. I have great strings and saxs and jet airplanes, but I'm looking for some sounds that I can load up and really jam with the band. 3) Scott Palmer alerted me to a rumor that a memory upgrade was being worked on for the W-30. Any news? I like the keyboard, but 512K just isn't enough. -- Date: 31 Jul 90 09:45:56 >From: Tom Johnson Subject: Hi all--This looks like it' To: sgroup+@andrew.cmu.edu Hi all--This looks like it's gonna be fun... Ok, let me introduce myself. My name is Tom Johnson. I entered UCLA in the music department (woodwind performance), but chickened out and decided to enter a "real" major instead :-). So I switched to Micro/molecular biology, got my degree and now I work in the Hardware lab of the UCLA CS department doing mac programming and networking. Go figure. All the others gave a rundown of their equipment, so here goes: Selmer mark VI alto and soprano saxes Chapman Stick--my current love. One of these days I'll get one of the MIDI versions. Assorted guitars and basses -- Yamaha Prototype BB1200 bass, LesPaul, ovation acoustic etc... Keyboards: Yamaha KX-88 -- couldn't live without it. Roland MKS-20 -- Still the best piano around IMHO Yamaha TX-81Z -- it's OK. but I don't use it too often Oberheim OB-8 -- I wouldn't trade this for anything Drum Machine: Oberheim DX -- got a great deal on it and I like making my own chips. Sequencers: Yamaha QX-7 -- A gift. Not too useful except as a scratch pad. Mac SE/30 w/ Performer, though I may switch to Vision one of these days. Effects: Zoom 9002 -- for the Stick. Amazing sound in a tiny package. ART SGE multi effect -- just got it. So far, so good. Yamaha Rev-7 reverb -- usually used for the keys. Misc MIDI stuff -- homebuilt MIDI patch bays and switchers Influences: Kate Bush (Happy B-day Kate-a day late), Beatles, Rush, Pink Floyd, Emmett Chapman, King Crimson, Tuck Andress and just about anything else I happen to hear. I'm sure you noticed that there isn't a single Roland Sampler in there. Well, the reason I subscribed is so that I could get an idea of which to get. Right now I'm sort of waffleing between getting an S-50, an S-550 or a Korg T-3. I haven't decided if I want to do my own sampling (I have so little free time that, initially at least, I'd prefer to concentrate on making music, not doing my own sampling. I do like the clear sound of the T-3 and the effects, but I just haven't decided if I want to give up the flexibility of creating my own samples if I find the time. I can't decide between the S-50 and S-550 because I love the additional memory and outs of the S-550, but I'd love to have a sort of "all-in-one" keyuboard I could just lug around from place to place (carrying a KX-88 and a rack around is not much fun). I suppose my main first question is this: Are ther any upgrades out there (Roland or otherwise) that can bring the S-50 into line with the capabilities of the S-550? If not, maybe I'll try to find an old Oberheim XK and just lug that around with the S-550. What do you all think? Thankd for listening..... Tom tj@cs.ucla.edu -- Date: 31 Jul 90 19:41:10 PDT (Tuesday) Subject: Re: New to the group >From: "Donald_C._Tycholis.LAX1B"@Xerox.COM To: dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.EDU Cc: "Donald_C._Tycholis.LAX1B"@Xerox.COM, sgroup+@andrew.cmu.EDU If anyone is interested, I'll try to find some time over the next few weekends to create some samples of my Les Paul, Charvel, and Fender guitars. However, I need some help from you fellow sample-addicts; this activity could eat up some serious time in order to capture all the possible variants, and since I'm not planning to make any money selling these samples.... (hmmm, no one else seems to be selling electric guitar samples... this might be one of those fabled "Bill Gates"-type opportunities ;-). It would help if people who are interested can tell me more specifically what they want (e.g. single notes, clean or distorted, chorused, delayed, reverbed, full chords, heavy-metal 5ths, etc.). I will make an effort to sample the most popular configurations. And be merciful please! By the way, I have sampled my Yamaha RX-5 and sent the complete set of disks to George (gfd%mtdca.att) for future sharing with y'all. (You did get these, right George?). Regards, Don -- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 90 23:55:54 -0400 (EDT) >From: Neil Anthony Herzinger To: Sgroup Subject: Re: Hi all--This looks like it' I'm not sure about this but isn't Roland discontinuing the S50/550 line now that the S770 is out? I hope not..... Even if they do, you can probably still buy one from a dealer's stock. The only hardware I know of for the S50 is a hard disk. I think I might heard of an 8 output expansion as well but I'm not sure. There is software to convert S550 sounds into S50 sounds (I have it). The 550 seems to have a good few advantages over the 50, and you might find them for around the same price. It is true that the S50 can be used as an 'all in one' board when you don't feel like lugging a lot of equipment around. On a side note, I used Performer for the first time today on a friend's mac. Wow! a hell of a lot more powerful then my....hmph cx5m.....I am looking forward to using my new Mac in my music set up. neil