From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Mon Sep 26 21:23:46 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-1>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:23:36 -0400 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.1.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <197>; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:14:29 -0400 Received: from demon.corp.portal.com (demon.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.10]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA18028; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:14:08 -0700 Received: from dudeman.corp.portal.com (dudeman.corp.portal.com [156.151.1.11]) by demon.corp.portal.com (8.6.7/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA10758; Mon, 26 Sep 1994 18:23:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 21:23:52 -0400 From: Steve Schow Message-Id: <199409270123.SAA10758@demon.corp.portal.com> To: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Tone Genics Cc: sgroup@lotus.UWaterloo.ca Status: R I called Roland and talked to them. Any drive up to 80 MB will work if it has the older Sony mechanism in it. This includes CMS, MicroNet, Microtech, etc....but only up to 80 MB. The manual lists three specific models from Apple and CMS. The only Cd-ROM drive that they knew about was their own. The guy had tried many different drives and nothing ever worked. I happen to know that this Tone Genics outfit made an upgrade for the HD5-IF which included both a hardware upgrade as well as software which gave you support for Syquest 44 MB cartridges and other 3rd party CD-ROM drives. It also made some improvements to the OS so that loading would be faster from a CD-ROM than from the normal Roland drive. The guy (Jim Norman) ALSO said that for some strange reason he found that the Syquest-105 removeable drives DID work...but only formatted the discs up to 80 MB. But at least they worked. That sounds like the best option for HD, Get a Syquest-105 and a pile of cartidges and that would last until I can afford a better sampler anyway. Plus, I still am going to look for a CD-5 CD-ROM drive. Thanks again for your help. You can put this on the FTP site if you wish. -steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@corp.portal.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (408) 973-9111 | Have I given you a clue......? | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Mon Sep 26 17:58:54 1994 From: JT Subject: Tone Genics To: sjs@corp.portal.com (Steve Schow) In-Reply-To: <199409262337.QAA09594@demon.corp.portal.com> from "Steve Schow" at Sep 26, 94 07:37:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1069 X-Lines: 25 > I am trying to contact Tone Genics. Anyone know how to reach them. they make > an upgrade for the HD5-IF SCSI interface for the S-550. They used to be > at 415-964-2560, but the number is now disconnected. Ah, what did this upgrade entail? > Anyone know of which HD's and/or CD-ROM's will work with the HD5-IF? I have the manual, but it is packed up right now. I can't get to it for about a week, unless I come across it before then. I'll probably send it to the whole list, but it would probably be a good idea to stick this on the ftp site (if the info isn't already there). But basically, the drives had to be 20meg, 40 meg, or 80 meg, and according to the manual, particular models. Mine happens to be one, and it is loud and warm (probably due to the older tech), but has worked flawlessly. If anybody has been able to get other manufacturers' drives to work, please tell us, as I'd hate to think that we are somewhat dependent on discontinued drives. If you don't hear from me in a week, please get back to me in email as I'll probably forget. JT ----- End Included Message ----- From lotus.uwaterloo.ca!sgroup-owner Tue Sep 27 23:18:30 1994 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88166-3>; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:18:23 -0400 Received: from beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ([128.146.216.26]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <202>; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:07:48 -0400 Received: from localhost by beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (8.6.4/4.940426) id XAA14210; Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:07:37 -0400 From: JT Message-Id: <199409280307.XAA14210@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Hard Drives for the S-550 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:07:36 -0400 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1115 Status: R When I was packing up tonight for my move, I came across the manual for the SCSI interface for the S-550. This info is taken from pg. 3, and acording to the recent posts, is not exactly true. According to someone who spoke with Roland, as long as the older drives have "the old Sony mechanism" they should work. I don't know exactly what that means. ;) Roland also said it works with some syquest removables, notably the 44Mb and 105mb removables, but the 105 will only act as an 80Mb drive... I have no idea about the 44 meg. I'd assume it would think it was a 40 meg, but I don't know. Anyways, here's the info: --------------------------------------------- (SCSI Specifications for the Apple Macintosh) Apple M-2620 (20Mb) M-2644 (40Mb) M-2688 (80Mb) CMS SD-20 (20Mb) SD-80 (80Mb) * No other hard disk can be used * The Apple hard disks are not provided with connecting cables. The Apple connecting cable (M0206) should be purchased 20Mb = 16 floppies 40Mb = 32 floppies 80Mb = 64 floppies ---------------------------------------------- Enjoy! JT