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Hello fellow S-Groupers,

I have recently re-juvenated my S220 QD and purchased a large number of
QDisks from ebay.

I would like to know if I can put a sample/structure into monophonic mode.
For example I want to play a bass line that will only play one note at a
time. I looked up and down in the manual and the machine's screens but I
could not seem to do this. The best I can do is to split the 16 voices
betweent the four ABCD structures for 4-note polyphony. There's nothing
worse than playing a fat bass line live and flubbing a couple of notes
together.

I did see that in MIDI you can select the number of voices per MIDI channel,
but it didn't seem to do what I need it to do. Maybe I didn't set the two
values correctly?
Can anyone offer assistance?

Thanks,

Ralph
Canada
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HI Ralph,
Go in to the MIDI menu and set MIDI MODE to mono. Despite reading the
manual I still don't fully understand what MONO MODE CH RANGE does but for
me it plays monophonically no matter which setting I have this on. You
can't use Multi when the machine is in mono mode though.

You can also set it to mono mode with MIDI controller number 126 with the
data byte setting the channel range. Controller number 127 will put it back
in to poly mode.

Cheers,
Giles


At 12:04 06.12.04 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Hello fellow S-Groupers,
>
>I have recently re-juvenated my S220 QD and purchased a large number of
>QDisks from ebay.
>
>I would like to know if I can put a sample/structure into monophonic mode.
>For example I want to play a bass line that will only play one note at a
>time. I looked up and down in the manual and the machine's screens but I
>could not seem to do this. The best I can do is to split the 16 voices
>betweent the four ABCD structures for 4-note polyphony. There's nothing
>worse than playing a fat bass line live and flubbing a couple of notes
>together.
>
>I did see that in MIDI you can select the number of voices per MIDI channel,
>but it didn't seem to do what I need it to do. Maybe I didn't set the two
>values correctly?
>Can anyone offer assistance?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ralph
>Canada
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HI Ralph,
Go in to the MIDI menu and set MIDI MODE to mono. Despite reading the 
manual I still don't fully understand what MONO MODE CH RANGE does but for 
me it plays monophonically no matter which setting I have this on. You 
can't use Multi when the machine is in mono mode though.

You can also set it to mono mode with MIDI controller number 126 with the 
data byte setting the channel range. Controller number 127 will put it back 
in to poly mode.

Cheers,
Giles


At 12:04 06.12.04 -0500, you wrote:
 >
 >Hello fellow S-Groupers,
 >
 >I have recently re-juvenated my S220 QD and purchased a large number of
 >QDisks from ebay.
 >
 >I would like to know if I can put a sample/structure into monophonic mode.
 >For example I want to play a bass line that will only play one note at a
 >time. I looked up and down in the manual and the machine's screens but I
 >could not seem to do this. The best I can do is to split the 16 voices
 >betweent the four ABCD structures for 4-note polyphony. There's nothing
 >worse than playing a fat bass line live and flubbing a couple of notes
 >together.
 >
 >I did see that in MIDI you can select the number of voices per MIDI channel,
 >but it didn't seem to do what I need it to do. Maybe I didn't set the two
 >values correctly?
 >Can anyone offer assistance?
 >
 >Thanks,
 >
 >Ralph
 >Canada
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Hello everyone and happy mid-december.

A friend of mine actually FOUND a JL Cooper
Fadermaster on the sidewalk on trash day and, having
no use for it himself, was nice enough to pass it on. 
(There was also an old Yamaha QX-5, which I'm loving).

Anyway, I've been getting to know my S-760 for about 6
months and have been limited to mouse/crt editing so
I'm excited to enter the "Controller World". 
Unfortunately, I'm a real novice at this and I can't
figure out how to get the two units (FM & S-760) to
dance.  I have been able to use the FM to change
Patches, so I know the thing works, but what about LFO
rates & TVF's etc.?  I realise I have a LONG road in
front of me, but what's the best place to start
learning about controllers messages?  I have all the
s-760 literature and a manual from a new fadermaster
pro, so eventually I should be able to suss this out. 
Good karma for those who pity newbies!!!!

OH; and my sdiskw idea - I use external zip's but
sdiskw only recognizes a & b, so I'm setting up a
network drive on my c to be called a.  Hopefully
this'll tie it all together.

-declan
new bedford, ma


		
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Am Montag, 13.12.04 um 15:59 Uhr schrieb declan halpin:

> Anyway, I've been getting to know my S-760 for about 6
> months and have been limited to mouse/crt editing

Much better than editing from the front panel...

>  so
> I'm excited to enter the "Controller World".
> Unfortunately, I'm a real novice at this and I can't
> figure out how to get the two units (FM & S-760) to
> dance.  I have been able to use the FM to change
> Patches, so I know the thing works, but what about LFO
> rates & TVF's etc.?

Go to "Patch"/"Control". In the lower half of the screen you see a 
matrix. The columns are the four possible controller sources, Pitch 
Bend, Aftertouch, Modulation Wheel and "Ctrl". "Ctrl" is an arbitrary 
MIDI controller you can select in the upper half of the screen: "Ctrl 
Select". The lines of the matrix are the eight possible controller 
destinations. Note that where a modulation path is possible (not always 
the case) the senstivity can be set to positive and negative values.

There's another very interesting option: you can set a Sample Mix Table 
(SMT) controller and its sensitivity (upper half of the screen). This 
way you can do with a controller what usually is done with MIDI 
velocity: determine the blend of the several samples in a partial. To 
make this work, you have to set the "SMT Vel Ctrl" parameter of the 
partial (screen "Partial"/"Common", lowest line) to Off. Unlike with 
controlling this via velocity, you can alter the blend while the 
samples are playing.

Ingo

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Subject: sgroup S-760 loop playing
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I just can=B9t figure out how to play a sample untill its very end just by
triggering him once, no matter how long it is. In fact I=B9m having a bit of
trouble playing correctly a drum kit I=B9ve mapped (ride or crash are huge
problems). On the manuel they talk about the OneShot mode, I think it=B9s set
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Petrit J.:

> I just can=B9t figure out how to play a sample untill its very end just by
> triggering him once, no matter how long it is. In fact I=B9m having a bit of
> trouble playing correctly a drum kit I=B9ve mapped (ride or crash are huge
> problems). On the manuel they talk about the OneShot mode, I think it=B9s =
set
> as this when I=B9m checking, but I cant hear the correct result.
> Can someone help please ?

I'm not sure you can do this.  One shot mode plays through the sample
once only, but it will decay once the note is released.  What you need
to do is set the envelope to make the decay and release rates as long
as possible, and the sustain level at its maximum.  But I don't know
if the maximum release rate is effectively infinite or whether the sound
still decays anyhow, only fairly slowly.

Cheers,

    Bernie

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You need to play with the envelope, specifically the control for the 
sustain. You can set any sound so it plays to the end with no drop in 
volume. I don't have my 760 fired up and I never knew it as well as I 
knew other synths so I can't tell you exactly how to do it, but 
hopefully that will start you off in the right direction.

Jesse

Petrit J. wrote:

> Hello
>
> I just can’t figure out how to play a sample untill its very end just 
> by triggering him once, no matter how long it is. In fact I’m having a 
> bit of trouble playing correctly a drum kit I’ve mapped (ride or crash 
> are huge problems). On the manuel they talk about the OneShot mode, I 
> think it’s set as this when I’m checking, but I cant hear the correct 
> result.
> Can someone help please ? 


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Well thanks to all for help

I think the only trick I found was to set a high release value in
Partial>Quick edit mode.

I was just trying to make it work like my Linn or my DMX, but I might
consider buying a dedicated Drum machine/sampler like a ASR-X

Petrit


Le 17/12/04 4:19, =AB=A0Bernie Maier=A0=BB <blurk@wr.com.au> a =E9crit=A0:

>=20
> Petrit J.:
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>> I just can=B9t figure out how to play a sample untill its very end just by
>> triggering him once, no matter how long it is. In fact I=B9m having a bit =
of
>> trouble playing correctly a drum kit I=B9ve mapped (ride or crash are huge
>> problems). On the manuel they talk about the OneShot mode, I think it=B9s =
set
>> as this when I=B9m checking, but I cant hear the correct result.
>> Can someone help please ?
>=20
> I'm not sure you can do this.  One shot mode plays through the sample
> once only, but it will decay once the note is released.  What you need
> to do is set the envelope to make the decay and release rates as long
> as possible, and the sustain level at its maximum.  But I don't know
> if the maximum release rate is effectively infinite or whether the sound
> still decays anyhow, only fairly slowly.
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Am Freitag, 17.12.04 um 12:45 Uhr schrieb Petrit J.:

> I was just trying to make it work like my Linn or my DMX, but I might
> consider buying a dedicated Drum machine/sampler like a ASR-X
>

What makes you think that a "dedicated Drum machine/sampler like a 
ASR-X" would fit your needs better than the S-760?

The S-760 *is*a dedicated sampler. Not a drum machine per se, but the 
ASR-X is not a "dedicated" drum machine either.

Ingo

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I was just thinking of a MPC3000 like but more affordable, also I appreciat=
e
the Ensoniq sound & efects too. I was meaning a drum machine which you coul=
d
fill with sample drum sounds following the Roger Linn Linn9000 concept.
Samples are easyly assigned to the "drum kit mapper" on pads (a kind of
template), which is convinient for hats sounds etc...
Or am I wrong ?


Le 17/12/04 15:49, =AB=A0Ingo Debus=A0=BB <debus@cityweb.de> a =E9crit=A0:

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>> I was just trying to make it work like my Linn or my DMX, but I might
>> consider buying a dedicated Drum machine/sampler like a ASR-X
>>=20
>=20
> What makes you think that a "dedicated Drum machine/sampler like a
> ASR-X" would fit your needs better than the S-760?
>=20
> The S-760 *is*a dedicated sampler. Not a drum machine per se, but the
> ASR-X is not a "dedicated" drum machine either.
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> Ingo
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Well, I thought networking my external zip as B: would "trick" sdiskw into thinking I had a floppy drive, but I was mistaken.  So I'm back to square one:  an S-760 w/SCSI zip, and a PC with LPT zip, but no way to transfer files.  I know I've asked a few times, and I'll make this the last, but can anyone suggest a workaround?  I have no 3.5 on my notebook.
 
And thanks again to Ingo for the help with my fadermaster controller issues.
 
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">hey, someone knows what is the error
mesage in s-50:</font></div><div><font face="Arial"
size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">&quot; disk load
error... 10 &quot; , when  I put the system disk v.2.0 in
s-50?</font></div><div><font face="Arial"
size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I write the disk
DD with sdiskw using an .out image...</font></div><div><font face="Arial"
size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">someone help me
please because I can´t stand this error anymore!</font></div><div><font
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size="2">thanks- fabricio- Brazil</font></div>


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