From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 4 12:18:55 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23389 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:18:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:18:55 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408041618.MAA23389@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from s2.syonex.com (s2.syonex.com [69.90.72.228]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23385 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:18:53 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s2.syonex.com (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i74GIrkt080808 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:18:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i74GIpq0072080 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:18:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtp3.moose.co.uk (mx65.3.vlan.3d.net.uk [217.169.23.165]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA02376 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 14:55:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 12786 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2004 18:55:30 -0000 Received: from 195-102-149-252.adsl.moose.co.uk (HELO [192.168.1.11]) (195.102.149.252) by mx68.moose.co.uk (195.102.144.68) with ESMTP; 03 Aug 2004 18:55:30 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: sgroup@sgroup.ca From: Steve Brodie Subject: sgroup S10 System Ex. Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 19:55:28 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi all, I have been having some trouble transmitting S10 system exclusive files to my S10 from Mac OSX using SysEx Librarian. I've downloaded loads of the files from the sgroup archive and some will load into the S10 and some won't and I haven't yet found any pattern as to which work and which don't? If anybody knows what's up or has experience of the same thing I'd be grateful for some help. Thanks in advance. Steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 4 19:32:09 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA08623 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:32:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:32:09 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408042332.TAA08623@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (dsl-210-15-250-66.NSW.netspace.net.au [210.15.250.66]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08619 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 19:32:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3506256E2F for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:31:37 +1000 (EST) Received: from ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptraci [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06998-05 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:31:37 +1000 (EST) Received: from [192.168.119.128] (bmaier.internal.sensorynetworks.com [192.168.119.128]) by ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3B456B5B for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 09:31:36 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:31:37 +1000 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S10 System Ex. Message-ID: <2C408E71F59E7231BD29D5B7@blurk> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Steve Brodie: > I have been having some trouble transmitting S10 system exclusive files to > my S10 from Mac OSX using SysEx Librarian. I've downloaded loads of the > files from the sgroup archive and some will load into the S10 and some won't > and I haven't yet found any pattern as to which work and which don't? > > If anybody knows what's up or has experience of the same thing I'd be > grateful for some help. Do the files that work work consistently, or is just random which files works at any particular time? The S-10 sysex uses a handshaking protocol, and if the sender (SysEx Librarian) is just dumping data without waiting for the acknowledgements from the S-10, I think it is possible that some files would fluke it through and others would fail. I'm not familiar with SysEx Librarian, so I don't know if it understands the S-10's handshaking protocol. Cheers, Bernie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I've seen the shape the world of electronic music is in. Most of it is pear-shaped." Jim Holmes - September 2003 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 4 20:07:16 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10078 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:07:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:07:16 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408050007.UAA10078@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10074 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:07:15 -0400 Received: from [192.168.167.40] (helo=wamui02.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BsVmx-0003X6-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 20:07:19 -0400 Message-ID: <7276062.1091664438990.JavaMail.root@wamui02.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 20:07:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Jesse Segovia Reply-To: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S10 System Ex. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; I don't know about the S-10 library but it's possible there may just be some bad disk images up there. Some of the S-550 and S-760 disk images are bad. Jesse Steve Brodie wrote: > I have been having some trouble transmitting S10 system exclusive files to my S10 from Mac OSX using SysEx Librarian. I've downloaded loads of the files from the sgroup archive and some will load into the S10 and some won't and I haven't yet found any pattern as to which work and which don't? > > If anybody knows what's up or has experience of the same thing I'd be grateful for some help. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu Aug 5 00:41:08 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA21347 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 00:41:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 00:41:08 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408050441.AAA21347@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from web13901.mail.yahoo.com (web13901.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.27]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA21343 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 00:41:07 -0400 Message-ID: <20040805044057.21397.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.60.226.40] by web13901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 04 Aug 2004 21:40:57 PDT Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 21:40:57 -0700 (PDT) From: declan halpin Subject: sgroup New User, Old questions To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi All, This is my first post. Actually, the S-760 I'm expecting tomorrow will be my first sampler! I'm a lifelong drummer, adopting MIDI (Roland TD-8) for the neighbors' sake. Trying to teach myself, and I'm coming along but have a few questions: 1. Is there a way to search the entire Sgroup archives specifically for "760" pertinent entries? 2. Could anyone offer a link to a straightforward (read, "simpleton") tutorial for System Exclusive & Bulk Dump commands? Basically, I have a firewire interface on my notebook (with Sonar 2.2) and I'm hoping to get this whole mess connected & cooperating! But I don't really know how to do it. I'm really looking forward to delving into this new toy - I'm sure you'll be hearing more from me. thanks in advance, and kudos on the community. declan halpin new bedford, ma ===== www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu Aug 5 05:16:55 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA00594 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 05:16:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 05:16:55 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408050916.FAA00594@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtp3.moose.co.uk (mx65.3.vlan.3d.net.uk [217.169.23.165]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA00590 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 2004 05:16:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 11165 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2004 09:16:50 -0000 Received: from 195-102-149-252.adsl.moose.co.uk (HELO [192.168.1.11]) (195.102.149.252) by mx68.moose.co.uk (195.102.144.68) with ESMTP; 05 Aug 2004 09:16:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <2C408E71F59E7231BD29D5B7@blurk> References: <2C408E71F59E7231BD29D5B7@blurk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2E48E396-E6C0-11D8-BA31-003065B5855C@moose.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Steve Brodie Subject: Re: sgroup S10 System Ex. Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:16:49 +0100 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Well my tests are far from exhaustive but it seems that the only files from the archive which work are from the Brian Andrew Marek (BAM) folder, the files from the original Roland ,and Li'l Chips libraries won't load in SysEx Librarian (Mac OSX). Interestingly these files do work with S10 Manager on the PC and if I load them into the S10 from S10 Manager and then save from the S10 into S10 Manager these files work with Sysex Librarian on the Mac. All that loading and saving is a bit time consuming though and as the PC is in a different room to the S10 I would like to get it all running from my Mac if possible. I'd be glad to know if you have any further thoughts on this. Thanks, Steve On 5 Aug 2004, at 00:31, Bernie Maier wrote: > > Steve Brodie: > >> I have been having some trouble transmitting S10 system exclusive >> files to >> my S10 from Mac OSX using SysEx Librarian. I've downloaded loads of >> the >> files from the sgroup archive and some will load into the S10 and >> some won't >> and I haven't yet found any pattern as to which work and which don't? >> >> If anybody knows what's up or has experience of the same thing I'd be >> grateful for some help. > > Do the files that work work consistently, or is just random which files > works at any particular time? The S-10 sysex uses a handshaking > protocol, > and if the sender (SysEx Librarian) is just dumping data without > waiting > for the acknowledgements from the S-10, I think it is possible that > some > files would fluke it through and others would fail. > > I'm not familiar with SysEx Librarian, so I don't know if it > understands > the S-10's handshaking protocol. > > Cheers, > > Bernie > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > "I've seen the shape the world of electronic music is in. > Most of it is pear-shaped." > Jim Holmes - September 2003 > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > --------------------------------------------- > This email has been scanned for viruses by the canit Virus and Spam > Service > http://www.moose.co.uk/canit/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun Aug 8 15:55:22 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12114 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 15:55:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 15:55:22 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408081955.PAA12114@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtp2.pp.htv.fi (smtp2.pp.htv.fi [213.243.153.35]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12110 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 15:55:21 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cs170132.pp.htv.fi [213.243.170.132]) by smtp2.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409A6296FE9; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:55:20 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <41168520.7070308@iki.fi> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 22:55:12 +0300 From: Thomas Malmberg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Brodie , sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S10 System Ex. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Steve Brodie wrote: > I have been having some trouble transmitting S10 system exclusive files > to my S10 from Mac OSX using SysEx Librarian. I've downloaded loads of > the files from the sgroup archive and some will load into the S10 and > some won't and I haven't yet found any pattern as to which work and > which don't? I remember that you had to set your S-10 to the right mode (A,B,C,...,AB/CD, etc. etc.) according to how the sample/sysex is saved BEFORE transmitting the sysex. There was some kind of utility with which you could check the sysex file for the actual setup, but I cannot remember what the utility was called. Hope this helps! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun Aug 8 22:16:22 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27758 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:16:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:16:22 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408090216.WAA27758@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from web13911.mail.yahoo.com (web13911.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.59]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA27754 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:16:21 -0400 Message-ID: <20040809021621.13591.qmail@web13911.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.60.226.40] by web13911.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Aug 2004 19:16:21 PDT Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 19:16:21 -0700 (PDT) From: declan halpin Subject: sgroup S-760 setup To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi everyone, I've spent a day or two playing with my S-760, and holy cow. What a blast. This is my first sampler, so every little thing is mind-blowing. Some questions are coming into focus for me, though: **first - my setup is Roland TD-8 drum brain, Yamaha QX-5 sequencer (oldie goldie), M-Audio Firewire Audiophile, Sonar 2.2, Wavelab (both on 2.8ghz, XP Pro laptop) 1). HUM! noticeable hum (buzz) when i connect my s-760 into my system (which, by the way, is coming out a crappy PA system). There is no buzz if I use any other instruments, just the S-760. I read in another thread that it could be grounding issues... yes/no? any potential solutions? 2). S/PDIF Does the S-760's "digital out" correspond to my interface's "S/PDIF in"? And should this be a standard RCA cable? 3). SCSI I won't bore everyone with the same old questions, but has anyone tried a SCSI - USB adapter? that would be great to be able to use my recording laptop to also store S-760 libraries. My main problem at the moment is the buzz. it isn't present in the headphone mix, but only main busses. tx for the help and great reading throughout the site. -declan new bedford, ma ===== www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun Aug 8 22:29:53 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28315 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:29:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:29:53 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408090229.WAA28315@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from web13907.mail.yahoo.com (web13907.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.70]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA28311 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:29:52 -0400 Message-ID: <20040809022935.17653.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.60.226.40] by web13907.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 08 Aug 2004 19:29:35 PDT Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 19:29:35 -0700 (PDT) From: declan halpin Subject: sgroup oh; and SMIDI To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; and one more question: Since I have the S-760 conneted to the laptop via midi already, is there any possibility of dumping my libraries to the laptop's HD via smidi? I know its slow, but, space is at a premium.... again, my sincere thanks in advance -declan ===== www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun Aug 8 22:35:07 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA28542 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:35:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:35:07 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408090235.WAA28542@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (dsl-210-15-250-66.NSW.netspace.net.au [210.15.250.66]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28537 for ; Sun, 8 Aug 2004 22:35:01 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F8856E16 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:34:32 +1000 (EST) Received: from ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptraci [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18514-06 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:34:32 +1000 (EST) Received: from [192.168.119.128] (bmaier.internal.sensorynetworks.com [192.168.119.128]) by ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F6C56B5B for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:34:31 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:34:36 +1000 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup Message-ID: <5D814FAB9EDC3EAE5E132A9C@blurk> In-Reply-To: <20040809021621.13591.qmail@web13911.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040809021621.13591.qmail@web13911.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Sorry, I can't answer your first (and most important) question, but I can comment on the others: declan halpin: > 2). S/PDIF Does the S-760's "digital out" correspond > to my interface's "S/PDIF in"? And should this be a > standard RCA cable? Yes and yes. Some people may mutter about needing a higher quality cable, but standard RCA cables have always worked for me. > 3). SCSI I won't bore everyone with the same old > questions, but has anyone tried a SCSI - USB adapter? > that would be great to be able to use my recording > laptop to also store S-760 libraries. No, I haven't tried it, but I do know that the S-760 only supports its own file system, and does not recognise/interoperate with PC formatted disks (I am using the term PC to cover both Macs and Wintel personal computers). Also, the S-760's SCSI implementation is quirky, to say the least, so SCSI transfers directly between the sampler and a Windows PC are pretty much unviable, thought there is MacOS software (e.g. DSoundPro) that can do this. Cheers, Bernie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- We should also remember that 'culture' is technically defined as "the artificial development of bacteria in prepared media". Phil Brophy, 1987 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Mon Aug 9 04:40:31 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA11432 for sgroup_site5-list; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 04:40:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 04:40:31 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408090840.EAA11432@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtp3.moose.co.uk (mx65.3.vlan.3d.net.uk [217.169.23.165]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA11428 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 04:40:26 -0400 Received: (qmail 13396 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2004 00:36:39 -0000 Received: from 195-102-149-252.adsl.moose.co.uk (HELO [192.168.1.11]) (195.102.149.252) by mx68.moose.co.uk (195.102.144.68) with ESMTP; 09 Aug 2004 00:36:39 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <41168520.7070308@iki.fi> References: <41168520.7070308@iki.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <19BE37B6-E99C-11D8-A995-003065B5855C@moose.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Steve Brodie Subject: Re: sgroup S10 System Ex. Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 01:36:06 +0100 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; > Steve Brodie wrote: >> I have been having some trouble transmitting S10 system exclusive >> files to my S10 from Mac OSX using SysEx Librarian. I've downloaded >> loads of the files from the sgroup archive and some will load into >> the S10 and some won't and I haven't yet found any pattern as to >> which work and which don't? > On 8 Aug 2004, at 20:55, Thomas Malmberg wrote: > I remember that you had to set your S-10 to the right mode > (A,B,C,...,AB/CD, etc. etc.) according to how the sample/sysex is > saved BEFORE transmitting the sysex. There was some kind of utility > with which you could check the sysex file for the actual setup, but I > cannot remember what the utility was called. > > Hope this helps! Many thanks for your help but sadly that doesn't seem to be the problem on this occasion. I seem to remember having a similar problem with an earlier version S10 Manager which was fixed with an update. Does anyone else remember that or know anything about it? Thanks again for your help Thomas. Steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Mon Aug 9 11:46:34 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29095 for sgroup_site5-list; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:46:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:46:34 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408091546.LAA29095@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from s2.syonex.com (s2.syonex.com [69.90.72.228]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29091 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:46:34 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s2.syonex.com (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i79FkZdw084698 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:46:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i79FkYTL018507 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:46:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from parrot.cairead.com (83-70-40-95.bas2.prp.dublin.eircom.net [83.70.40.95]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13673 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 05:33:56 -0400 Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20912 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 10:33:11 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id KAA02262 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 10:33:10 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 10:33:10 +0100 From: Nic Grant To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup Message-ID: <20040809103310.A2234@uv.cairead.com> References: <20040809021621.13591.qmail@web13911.mail.yahoo.com> <5D814FAB9EDC3EAE5E132A9C@blurk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5D814FAB9EDC3EAE5E132A9C@blurk>; from blurk@wr.com.au on Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 12:34:36PM +1000 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; to quote Bernie Maier: => Sorry, I can't answer your first (and most important) question, but => I can comment on the others: Aah, Bernie, but you did in a way! => declan halpin: => => > 2). S/PDIF Does the S-760's "digital out" correspond => > to my interface's "S/PDIF in"? And should this be a => > standard RCA cable? => => Yes and yes. Some people may mutter about needing a higher => quality cable, but standard RCA cables have always worked for me. One way to counteract the hum problem would be to use the spdif out into the audiophile and the audiophile's analogue out to the PA. Might get better results with that? Make sure you clock the audiophile to the incoming spdif signal though, otherwise you'll get clicks and pops. Oh, and mutter, mutter - do use a 75ohm spdif cable and not a standard RCA cable. It might work OK (for very short distances) but you will reduce clock jitter/error using the correct cable. Of course, you may not be able to hear the difference anyway (drum sounds may not be quite so critical) - but there will be a difference! On the other hand, I don't (personally) advocate those expensive monster type cables. Just a reasonable quality 75ohm will be fine. Obviously a standard RCA will be fine for verifying whether you can use the spdif solution to defeat your hum problem quickly. You'll get a better signal for your recording rig too going digital. Finally in terms of general hum. I believe the outputs of the S760 are unbalanced, so grounding is important. Make sure that the S760's ground pin is grounded to the same earth as the PA. You could also make sure that the S750's output is as high as possible while trimming at the PA side of things. Of course the S760 could simply be faulty in terms of internal grounding of the outputs. ;-( There's lots of things you can check for dealing with hum. A little hard to cover in an email, but there must be loads of hum tracking resources in the 'net. Hope that helps. Regards, Nic. -- Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, GSM: +353 87 2300 914 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue Aug 10 02:08:34 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA32722 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:08:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:08:34 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408100608.CAA32722@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from s2.syonex.com (s2.syonex.com [69.90.72.228]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA32718 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:08:32 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s2.syonex.com (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i7A68bbw009296 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:08:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i7A68b23029509 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 02:08:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail009.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail009.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.64]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29309 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2004 11:51:53 -0400 Received: from mozart (hobax5-033.dialup.optusnet.com.au [203.164.136.33]) by mail009.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with SMTP id i79Fphf07393 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:51:47 +1000 From: dp25 To: X-Mailer: PocoMail 2.64 (1120) - Licensed Version Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 01:51:43 +1000 Message-ID: <200481015143.725344@mozart> Subject: sgroup S50 wont boot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ;
Help!
I have a Roland S50= sampler keyboard that has been in storage and not used for a= while. I am desperate
to get all of my songs= off the director-S disks onto my PC so I can put them in general= MIDI format.
But......
I tried to boot th S50= yesterday and it wont boot up - all it says is "Please= insert an S50 disk" and the disk
drive operates then stops= with the same message. I tried all of my S50V2 operating disks= with no luck -
just the same= message.
Does anyone know what= could be causing this problem?  The disk drive or the disks= maybe?
I also want to thank you= for this site - without it I would not have known about SDISK. I= have managed to
get all my samples onto= my PC, but not the director-S songs.
I am very keen the get= the S50 working again - It still is a great= Sampler!
Hope you can help= me,
David.
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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue Aug 10 12:00:26 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25327 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:00:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:00:26 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408101600.MAA25327@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from web13908.mail.yahoo.com (web13908.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.71]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA25323 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 12:00:25 -0400 Message-ID: <20040810160025.21936.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.60.226.40] by web13908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:00:25 PDT Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:00:25 -0700 (PDT) From: declan halpin Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup (SMIDI) To: Nic Grant , sgroup@sgroup.ca In-Reply-To: <20040809103310.A2234@uv.cairead.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi, Thanks Nic & Bernie - I've connected the S/PDIF i/o to the audiophile o/i and i'm loving it. That actually got rid of the buzz - although I'm worried it may be a symptom of a larger problem (?). So now my main issue is with getting sounds to the 760. I bought it used, with no sounds whatsoever, so I'm having to do everything from scratch. I have a GREAT soft sampler, and just can't believe that it is so cumbersome to get patches from the PC to the s-760. I don't have a floppy or SCSI interface on this laptop - so what's a brother to do? Wouldn't MIDI data transfer be the way to go? Only thing is - I'm a real newbie to MIDI in general, let alone MIDI data transfer.... - what are these "librarian" programs i've read about - and could they be used to **zip** an .sf2 (for example) into a s-760 readable patch? Anyone have a suggestion for a good librarian? thanks to all, Declan PS: is there a way to search the archives for keywords? --- Nic Grant wrote: > > to quote Bernie Maier: > => Sorry, I can't answer your first (and most > important) question, but > => I can comment on the others: > > Aah, Bernie, but you did in a way! > > => declan halpin: > => > => > 2). S/PDIF Does the S-760's "digital out" > correspond > => > to my interface's "S/PDIF in"? And should > this be a > => > standard RCA cable? > => > => Yes and yes. Some people may mutter about > needing a higher > => quality cable, but standard RCA cables have > always worked for me. > > One way to counteract the hum problem would be to > use the spdif out into > the audiophile and the audiophile's analogue out > to the PA. Might get > better results with that? Make sure you clock the > audiophile to the > incoming spdif signal though, otherwise you'll get > clicks and pops. > > Oh, and mutter, mutter - do use a 75ohm spdif > cable and not a standard RCA > cable. It might work OK (for very short distances) > but you will reduce > clock jitter/error using the correct cable. Of > course, you may not be able > to hear the difference anyway (drum sounds may not > be quite so critical) > - but there will be a difference! On the other > hand, I don't (personally) > advocate those expensive monster type cables. Just > a reasonable quality > 75ohm will be fine. Obviously a standard RCA will > be fine for verifying > whether you can use the spdif solution to defeat > your hum problem quickly. > You'll get a better signal for your recording rig > too going digital. > > Finally in terms of general hum. I believe the > outputs of the S760 are > unbalanced, so grounding is important. Make sure > that the S760's ground > pin is grounded to the same earth as the PA. You > could also make sure that > the S750's output is as high as possible while > trimming at the PA side of > things. Of course the S760 could simply be faulty > in terms of internal > grounding of the outputs. ;-( There's lots of > things you can check for > dealing with hum. A little hard to cover in an > email, but there must be > loads of hum tracking resources in the 'net. > > Hope that helps. > > Regards, > Nic. > > -- > Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, GSM: > +353 87 2300 914 > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@sgroup.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for > more information. > ===== www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. 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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue Aug 10 13:48:13 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29777 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:48:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:48:13 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408101748.NAA29777@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from parrot.cairead.com (83-70-40-95.bas2.prp.dublin.eircom.net [83.70.40.95]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29730 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:47:02 -0400 Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA21377 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:46:16 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id SAA07236 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:46:16 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:46:16 +0100 From: Nic Grant To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup (SMIDI) Message-ID: <20040810184616.A7226@uv.cairead.com> References: <20040809103310.A2234@uv.cairead.com> <20040810160025.21936.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040810160025.21936.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com>; from dec@rocketmail.com on Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 09:00:25AM -0700 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; to quote declan halpin: => Hi, Thanks Nic & Bernie - I've connected the S/PDIF => i/o to the audiophile o/i and i'm loving it. That => actually got rid of the buzz - although I'm worried it => may be a symptom of a larger problem (?). Possibly, but it is likely to be limited to the analogue output stage. If you're happy with the digital solution I would say go for it. Probably expensive to trace/repair I suspect. => So now my main issue is with getting sounds to the => 760. I bought it used, with no sounds whatsoever, so => I'm having to do everything from scratch. I have a => GREAT soft sampler, and just can't believe that it is => so cumbersome to get patches from the PC to the s-760. => I don't have a floppy or SCSI interface on this => laptop - so what's a brother to do? Wouldn't MIDI => data transfer be the way to go? Only thing is - I'm a => real newbie to MIDI in general, let alone MIDI data => transfer.... It is horrendously slow and error prone and AFAIK can only transfer raw sample data so you'd lose any partial/patch data. I'd look at other options, such as chickensys.com's Translator which allows you to create S7XX data, but if you don't have a floppy that could be problematic. You could write cdrom's using Translator, but you'd need a scsi cdrom connected to the sampler to read 'em. These can be had pretty cheaply these days though, although finding a S7XX suported one might require a scour of ebay. Whatever way you do it you will need to get additional hardware, I think. A floppy (or a cheap computer that has one) or a scsi cdrom drive for your sampler. I'd recommend the latter. Floppies are better than MIDI but a far cry from cdrom (or disk) as they are limited in size. Final alternative would be to get two zip drives. One SCSI and the other compatible with your 'puter (USB?). They're pretty cheap. Regards, Nic. -- Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, GSM: +353 87 2300 914 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue Aug 10 14:45:26 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA32165 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:45:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:45:26 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408101845.OAA32165@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA32161 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:45:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 8043 invoked by uid 65534); 10 Aug 2004 18:44:56 -0000 Received: from dsl-082-082-191-146.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [192.168.0.2]) (82.82.191.146) by mail.gmx.net (mp016) with SMTP; 10 Aug 2004 20:44:56 +0200 X-Authenticated: #670536 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:44:54 +0200 From: Chris Reply-To: Chris X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <486552573.20040810204454@gmx.net> To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup (SMIDI) In-Reply-To: <20040810184616.A7226@uv.cairead.com> References: <20040809103310.A2234@uv.cairead.com> <20040810160025.21936.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> <20040810184616.A7226@uv.cairead.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; NG> You could write cdrom's using Translator, but you'd need a scsi cdrom NG> connected to the sampler to read 'em. These can be had pretty cheaply NG> these days though, although finding a S7XX suported one might require a NG> scour of ebay. Meanwhile it can? The last time I tried it was able to *CREATE* an cd-image in S7xx format but I wasn't able to put a sinlge patch - not to speak about performances or volumes - on that created image. >:-( Everytime the same old, nasty popup saying "This translation hasn't been implemented yet" or something like that. I'm really fed up with translator meanwhile. Too bad that CDXtract doesn't allow saving in S7xx format (yet). cheers, Chris - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue Aug 10 18:59:01 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA10146 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:59:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:59:01 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408102259.SAA10146@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA10123 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:58:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 4153 invoked by uid 65534); 10 Aug 2004 22:58:32 -0000 Received: from dsl-082-082-191-146.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [192.168.0.2]) (82.82.191.146) by mail.gmx.net (mp010) with SMTP; 11 Aug 2004 00:58:32 +0200 X-Authenticated: #670536 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:58:31 +0200 From: Chris Reply-To: Chris X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <36947283.20040811005831@gmx.net> To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup (SMIDI) In-Reply-To: <486552573.20040810204454@gmx.net> References: <20040809103310.A2234@uv.cairead.com> <20040810160025.21936.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> <20040810184616.A7226@uv.cairead.com> <486552573.20040810204454@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hm, I just downloaded the new demo verion from chickensys' hp to see if it works yet, but now I can't even create a virtual cd anymore? Has this been taken out from the demo version? I'm quite sure that I was at least able to create such an image with a former version... I'm a bit confused now... :-/ Unfortunately I don't know where I left the old one, I think got it from the cd of the "keys" magazine some time ago, but I'm not 100% sure. cheers, Chris NG>> You could write cdrom's using Translator, but you'd need a scsi cdrom NG>> connected to the sampler to read 'em. These can be had pretty cheaply NG>> these days though, although finding a S7XX suported one might require a NG>> scour of ebay. C> Meanwhile it can? The last time I tried it was able to *CREATE* an C> cd-image in S7xx format but I wasn't able to put a sinlge patch - not C> to speak about performances or volumes - on that created image. >:-( C> Everytime the same old, nasty popup saying "This translation hasn't C> been implemented yet" or something like that. I'm really fed up with C> translator meanwhile. C> Too bad that CDXtract doesn't allow saving in S7xx format (yet). C> cheers, C> Chris C> - C> Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca C> For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca C> and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue Aug 10 21:18:31 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA15898 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:18:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:18:31 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408110118.VAA15898@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from web13907.mail.yahoo.com (web13907.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.70]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA15875 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:18:30 -0400 Message-ID: <20040811011832.93793.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.60.226.40] by web13907.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:18:32 PDT Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:18:32 -0700 (PDT) From: declan halpin Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup (SMIDI) To: Nic Grant , sgroup@sgroup.ca In-Reply-To: <20040810184616.A7226@uv.cairead.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; --- Nic Grant wrote: > It is horrendously slow and error prone and AFAIK > can only transfer raw > sample data so you'd lose any partial/patch data. Hallelujiah! I transfered a sample from the pc to the 760 using Wavelab - it supports the 760 as a preset sampler. Just designate it and dump away! It looks like I can only do mono samples (?) and yes, the sample-level-only thing is a drag. Does translator allow you to arrange a patch/performance on the pc then dump to the 760 intact? that would be so incredibly sexy. is that (Translator) considered a Librarian? And I actually ordered a SCSI cdrom off ebay (just arrived today) but I didn't know about the sgroup when I bid, so wasn't aware of the compatibility. .... and after checking with the list, its not looking good (Sun Microsystems model 411 SCSI external CD Rom)... So no one is familiar with the SCSI to USB adapters? there around $50 and would be a godsend if they worked. now.... must... sleep... -d- > Final alternative would be to get two zip drives. > One SCSI and the other > compatible with your 'puter (USB?). They're pretty > cheap. > > Regards, > Nic. > > -- > Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, GSM: > +353 87 2300 914 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@sgroup.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for > more information. > ===== www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue Aug 10 22:04:27 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17783 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:04:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:04:27 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408110204.WAA17783@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-m22.mx.aol.com (imo-m22.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.3]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17779 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:04:26 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.4.) id 6.9a.1180f26c (3972) for ; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9a.1180f26c.2e4ad887@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:03:51 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup (SMIDI) To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1092189831" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1092189831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What version of Wavelab are you referring to and is this a direct transfer? Can get more details? Thanks Dave In a message dated 8/10/2004 9:21:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dec@rocketmail.com writes: --- Nic Grant wrote: > It is horrendously slow and error prone and AFAIK > can only transfer raw > sample data so you'd lose any partial/patch data. Hallelujiah! I transfered a sample from the pc to the 760 using Wavelab - it supports the 760 as a preset sampler. Just designate it and dump away! It looks like I can only do mono samples (?) and yes, the sample-level-only thing is a drag. Does translator allow you to arrange a patch/performance on the pc then dump to the 760 intact? that would be so incredibly sexy. is that (Translator) considered a Librarian? And I actually ordered a SCSI cdrom off ebay (just arrived today) but I didn't know about the sgroup when I bid, so wasn't aware of the compatibility. .... and after checking with the list, its not looking good (Sun Microsystems model 411 SCSI external CD Rom)... So no one is familiar with the SCSI to USB adapters? there around $50 and would be a godsend if they worked. now.... must... sleep... -d- > Final alternative would be to get two zip drives. > One SCSI and the other > compatible with your 'puter (USB?). They're pretty > cheap. > > Regards, > Nic. > > -- > Nic Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, GSM: > +353 87 2300 914 > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@sgroup.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for > more information. > ===== www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. 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What version of Wavelab are you referring to and is this a direct trans= fer?=20 Can  get more details?
 
Thanks
Dave
 
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--- Nic Grant <nic@carrot.com.au>=20 wrote:

>   It is horrendously slow and error prone and= =20 AFAIK
> can only transfer raw
>   sample data so you= 'd=20 lose any partial/patch data.

Hallelujiah!  I transfered a samp= le=20 from the pc to the
760 using Wavelab - it supports the 760 as a=20 preset
sampler.  Just designate it and dump away!  It=20 looks
like I can only do mono samples (?) and yes, the
sample-level-= only=20 thing is a drag.  Does translator
allow you to arrange a=20 patch/performance on the pc
then dump to the 760 intact?  that wou= ld=20 be so
incredibly sexy.  is that (Translator) considered=20 a
Librarian? 

And I actually ordered a SCSI cdrom off ebay= =20 (just
arrived today) but I didn't know about the sgroup when
I bid,=20= so=20 wasn't aware of the compatibility.  ....
and after checking with=20= the=20 list, its not looking good
(Sun Microsystems model 411 SCSI external CD= =20 Rom)... 

So no one is familiar with the SCSI to USB adapters?= =20
there around $50 and would be a godsend if they
worked.

now.= ...=20 must... sleep...

-d-


>   Final alternative=20 would be to get two zip drives.
> One SCSI and the=20 other
>   compatible with your 'puter (USB?). They're=20 pretty
> cheap.
>
>  =20 Regards,
>   Nic.
>
> --
>  =20= Nic=20 Grant, Soft Audio, nic@softaudio.com, GSM:
> +353 87 2300 914
>= ;=20 -
> Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca
> For=20 subscription information, send mail to
> majordomo@sgroup.ca
>= and=20 see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for
> more=20 information.
>


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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 11 02:35:33 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29141 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:35:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:35:33 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408110635.CAA29141@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mxsf16.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf16.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.216]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29136 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:35:31 -0400 Received: from mxip20.cluster1.charter.net (mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.150]) by mxsf16.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7B6Z51A031469 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:35:06 -0400 Received: from c68.112.122.73.stc.mn.charter.com (HELO cb56611-h.chickensys.com) (68.112.122.73) by mxip20.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 11 Aug 2004 02:35:05 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.83,118,1089000000"; d="scan'208"; a="120194148:sNHT17474058" Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040810230914.044c5950@mail.chickensys.com> X-Sender: garth@mail.chickensys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 01:31:35 -0500 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca From: Garth Hjelte Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup (SMIDI) In-Reply-To: <486552573.20040810204454@gmx.net> References: <20040810184616.A7226@uv.cairead.com> <20040809103310.A2234@uv.cairead.com> <20040810160025.21936.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> <20040810184616.A7226@uv.cairead.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; At 08:44 PM 8/10/04 +0200, you wrote: >NG> You could write cdrom's using Translator, but you'd need a scsi cdrom >NG> connected to the sampler to read 'em. These can be had pretty cheaply >NG> these days though, although finding a S7XX suported one might require a >NG> scour of ebay. > >Meanwhile it can? The last time I tried it was able to *CREATE* an >cd-image in S7xx format but I wasn't able to put a sinlge patch - not >to speak about performances or volumes - on that created image. >:-( >Everytime the same old, nasty popup saying "This translation hasn't >been implemented yet" or something like that. Try it now! You were probably doing it wrong, unless you tried it 3 years ago or something. This capability has always existed. To be sure, I downloaded Translator Free off our site, and just created a small composite CD-ROM from 3 CD's. Works great just from that. Here's the run down. Roland Preview Disk - KEY:pp YC7 1Mv/s Distorted Reality 2 - 101: Chicken Bass Legends - BS :-AL Latin 1a So what's the problem? Translator Free is not even the main version - anyone here can download it and do it for free. >I'm really fed up with translator meanwhile. Why? Something doesn't work properly? You can always give us a call anytime. We do respond to telephone calls and mails. I don't show you ever contacting us yourself (I could be wrong, but I don't remember it). And you know we are listening here. Be honest - I'm sure you want this to work for you. Ask us! If you are complaining about ->S-7x not being available yet, well, consider that it's a 12 year old sampler and it's fortunate that somebody is even willing to support it - that is, the 3-4 users that will buy the program because of it. Honestly, we have to work on the stuff that 2000 people want before we continue work on the 3-4 person project. That's life. We are "fed up" too! (if that's a proper phrase) with it not yet being done. We are trying as hard as possible to finish, and please look through the archives that we've said we'd keep everyone abreast. Garth Hjelte Sampler User - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 11 02:35:32 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA29138 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:35:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:35:32 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408110635.CAA29138@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mxsf15.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf15.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.215]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29119 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:35:30 -0400 Received: from mxip20.cluster1.charter.net (mxip20a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.150]) by mxsf15.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i7B6Z4sU025630 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 02:35:04 -0400 Received: from c68.112.122.73.stc.mn.charter.com (HELO cb56611-h.chickensys.com) (68.112.122.73) by mxip20.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 11 Aug 2004 02:35:04 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.83,118,1089000000"; d="scan'208"; a="120194110:sNHT12697944" Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040810230922.044c9ce0@mail.chickensys.com> X-Sender: garth@mail.chickensys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:50:04 -0500 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca From: Garth Hjelte Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup (SMIDI) In-Reply-To: <36947283.20040811005831@gmx.net> References: <486552573.20040810204454@gmx.net> <20040809103310.A2234@uv.cairead.com> <20040810160025.21936.qmail@web13908.mail.yahoo.com> <20040810184616.A7226@uv.cairead.com> <486552573.20040810204454@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; At 12:58 AM 8/11/04 +0200, you wrote: >Hm, I just downloaded the new demo verion from chickensys' hp to see >if it works yet, but now I can't even create a virtual cd anymore? Has >this been taken out from the demo version? I'm quite sure that I was >at least able to create such an image with a former version... I'm a >bit confused now... :-/ There was a silly bug in Build 63 that had nothing to do with Virtual Drives but an error in the ability to show thew Save As dialog. Build 64 has been up for a week - I just tried it and it works great (see other post). Translator has been able to create Roland Virtual Drives for over three years now, it's nothing new. Chris - I looked through the archives, and it seems you have quite a few questions about Translator. Ask us! Garth Hjelte Sampler User - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 11 08:17:03 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA11176 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:17:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:17:03 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408111217.IAA11176@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from parrot.cairead.com (83-70-40-95.bas2.prp.dublin.eircom.net [83.70.40.95]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11131 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:15:52 -0400 Received: from uv.cairead.com (uv.cairead.com [192.168.66.10]) by parrot.cairead.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21566 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:15:06 +0100 (BST) Received: (from nic@localhost) by uv.cairead.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id NAA08118 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:15:05 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:15:05 +0100 From: Nic Grant To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 setup (SMIDI) Message-ID: <20040811131505.A8102@uv.cairead.com> References: <20040810184616.A7226@uv.cairead.com> <20040811011832.93793.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040811011832.93793.qmail@web13907.mail.yahoo.com>; from dec@rocketmail.com on Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 06:18:32PM -0700 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; to quote declan halpin: => And I actually ordered a SCSI cdrom off ebay (just => arrived today) but I didn't know about the sgroup when => I bid, so wasn't aware of the compatibility. .... => and after checking with the list, its not looking good => (Sun Microsystems model 411 SCSI external CD Rom)... I have a feeling that the Sun 411 is actually a sony, so there is some chance you can get it working. You'll need a 25pin to HD50 cable to interconnect the two though. Nic. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 11 09:59:20 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15421 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:59:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:59:20 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408111359.JAA15421@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from california.com (mail.california.com [209.3.224.15]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15417 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:59:20 -0400 X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/ClamAV http://raeinternet.com/mpp Received: from [64.24.245.78] (HELO DennyKiki) by california.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with SMTP id 79071922 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 06:58:13 -0700 Message-ID: <002901c47fab$601f84b0$4ef51840@DennyKiki> From: "Denny Daughters" To: References: <200481015143.725344@mozart> Subject: Re: sgroup S50 wont boot Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 07:59:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C47F79.10C060B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C47F79.10C060B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, The only thing I can suggest is to take your s-50 to a keyboard tech = and see if he can help. Make sure he's worked on the s-50 samplers = before. Talk to you later. Denny ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C47F79.10C060B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David,
    The only thing I can = suggest is=20 to take your s-50 to a keyboard tech and see if he can help.  Make = sure=20 he's worked on the s-50 samplers before.  Talk to you = later.
Denny
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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 11 10:09:40 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15871 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:09:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:09:40 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408111409.KAA15871@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15867 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:09:39 -0400 Received: from user-uinj2n7.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.138.231] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1ButnN-0004Sx-00; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:09:38 -0400 Message-ID: <411A289E.9040406@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:09:34 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dp25 , SGroup List Subject: Re: sgroup S50 wont boot References: <200481015143.725344@mozart> In-Reply-To: <200481015143.725344@mozart> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; I got the disk drive of my S-550 replaced some time ago. I had the same basic problem - it wouldn't boot at all. I went to an authorized dealer and they fixed it. I don't know if they got a Roland drive or if Roland told them another drive that would work, but it's perfect now. Sorry about your luck. I don't think there's any other way to use Director-S without an S-50, unless anyone on the list knows of a way to convert these to standard MIDI files. But if you're going to want to use the S-50 with your songs anyway you might as well get it fixed. Even though I have an S-760 I knew I'd continue to use the S-550 so I get it fixed. dp25 wrote: > Help! > I have a Roland S50 sampler keyboard that has been in storage and not > used for a while. I am desperate > to get all of my songs off the director-S disks onto my PC so I can > put them in general MIDI format. > But...... > I tried to boot th S50 yesterday and it wont boot up - all it says is > "Please insert an S50 disk" and the disk > drive operates then stops with the same message. I tried all of my > S50V2 operating disks with no luck - > just the same message. > Does anyone know what could be causing this problem? The disk drive > or the disks maybe? > I also want to thank you for this site - without it I would not have > known about SDISK. I have managed to > get all my samples onto my PC, but not the director-S songs. > I am very keen the get the S50 working again - It still is a great > Sampler! > Hope you can help me, > David. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription > information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see > http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 11 12:29:47 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21664 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:29:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:29:47 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408111629.MAA21664@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from s2.syonex.com (s2.syonex.com [69.90.72.228]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21660 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:29:46 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s2.syonex.com (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i7BGTmbw084339 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:29:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i7BGTl04027619 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:29:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from asmtp03.eresmas.com (asmtp03.eresmas.com [62.81.235.143] (may be forged)) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03532 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 05:11:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.108.54] (helo=mx04.eresmas.com) by asmtp03.eresmas.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Bup94-00012C-C2 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:11:42 +0200 Received: from [83.36.172.150] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by mx04.eresmas.com with asmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Bup94-0007x4-BE for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:11:42 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dsmpro@wanadoo.es@pop.wanadoo.es Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:11:34 +0200 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca From: Rafa Subject: sgroup S-760 + RC-100 for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi for sale from Spain Roland S-760, 26 Mb RAM + OP-760-1 (In/Out dig) 6 Out RC-100 Roland R-8 M (additional sounds Dance, Contemporary Percusion, Power Drums USA) Interested, mail me: dsmpro@wanadoo.es Best regards - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 11 12:49:14 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22535 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:49:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:49:14 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408111649.MAA22535@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from california.com (mail.california.com [209.3.224.15]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22531 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:49:13 -0400 From: denny@dennydaughters.com X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/ClamAV http://raeinternet.com/mpp Received: from [67.104.83.237] (account denny@dennydaughters.com) by california.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 79083460 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:48:10 -0700 Subject: sgroup fixing s-50 floppy drive To: sgroup@sgroup.ca X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:48:10 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi Dave, Another link you can try for resources is: http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup There's a documentation link and the link that says "fixing your floppy drive" they talk about specificly fixing or rather replacing the S-50's floppy drive. Good luck. Denny - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 11 22:40:41 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14354 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:40:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:40:41 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408120240.WAA14354@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from web13911.mail.yahoo.com (web13911.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.59]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA14350 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:40:39 -0400 Message-ID: <20040812024044.35050.qmail@web13911.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.60.226.40] by web13911.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:40:44 PDT Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:40:44 -0700 (PDT) From: declan halpin Subject: sgroup Wavelab >> s-760 sample dump To: DAJA300@aol.com, sgroup@sgroup.ca In-Reply-To: <9a.1180f26c.2e4ad887@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Okie Dokie: Here's how you transfer .wav files from your pc to your S-760 using MIDI and Wavelab. btw, it's Wavelab 3 (i think). Connect the pc's midi in to the 760's out and vice versa. Open Wavelab. Up top, under "Sampling" go to "Sampler Configuration". Select "Roland S-760" from the list. Set the Midi I/O and device ID. on the 760, go to system/midi and set out/thru to out. Check to make sure the ID jives with what you just entered in wavelab. back in wavelab select sampling/transmit and away you go! you might have to tweak some settings here & there - I've only done this once or twice, but it seems like a nice method. Given that there's a "recieve" I suppose you could do the opposite? Here's my question: How can you create performances on the pc (with patches/partials/samples) and then transmit to the 760? I have TONS of great sounds, but the idea of using the 760 to set them all up in a performance makes my head hurt. I looked at translator, but I guess I'm too stupid (I set up a virtual drive, but then it never appeared for me to drag samples into). And even still - sample level dump leaves a lot of work to be done on the 760. Does anyone have a silver bullet? -declan --- DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > > What version of Wavelab are you referring to and is > this a direct transfer? > Can get more details? ===== www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu Aug 12 09:20:09 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08757 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:20:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:20:09 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408121320.JAA08757@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08753 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:20:08 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.4.) id 6.83.12eba3f3 (4320) for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <83.12eba3f3.2e4cc85f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:19:27 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Wavelab >> s-760 sample dump To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1092316767" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1092316767 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great! Thanks. Will give it a shot. Dave In a message dated 8/11/2004 10:54:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dec@rocke tmail.com writes: Okie Dokie: Here's how you transfer .wav files from your pc to your S-760 using MIDI and Wavelab. btw, it's Wavelab 3 (i think). Connect the pc's midi in to the 760's out and vice versa. Open Wavelab. Up top, under "Sampling" go to "Sampler Configuration". Select "Roland S-760" from the list. Set the Midi I/O and device ID. on the 760, go to system/midi and set out/thru to out. Check to make sure the ID jives with what you just entered in wavelab. back in wavelab select sampling/transmit and away you go! you might have to tweak some settings here & there - I've only done this once or twice, but it seems like a nice method. Given that there's a "recieve" I suppose you could do the opposite? Here's my question: How can you create performances on the pc (with patches/partials/samples) and then transmit to the 760? I have TONS of great sounds, but the idea of using the 760 to set them all up in a performance makes my head hurt. I looked at translator, but I guess I'm too stupid (I set up a virtual drive, but then it never appeared for me to drag samples into). And even still - sample level dump leaves a lot of work to be done on the 760. Does anyone have a silver bullet? -declan --- DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > > What version of Wavelab are you referring to and is > this a direct transfer? > Can get more details? ===== www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Great! Thanks. Will give it a shot.
 
Dave
 
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Okie=20 Dokie:  Here's how you transfer .wav files from
your pc to your S-= 760=20 using MIDI and Wavelab.

btw, it's Wavelab 3 (i think). =20

Connect the pc's midi in to the 760's out and vice
versa. = =20 Open Wavelab.  Up top, under "Sampling" go to
"Sampler=20 Configuration".  Select "Roland S-760" from
the list.  Set th= e=20 Midi I/O and device ID.

on the 760, go to system/midi and set out/t= hru=20 to out.
Check to make sure the ID jives with what you just
entered i= n=20 wavelab.

back in wavelab select sampling/transmit and away=20 you
go!  you might have to tweak some settings here &
there= -=20 I've only done this once or twice, but it
seems like a nice method.&nbs= p;=20 Given that there's a
"recieve" I suppose you could do the=20 opposite?

Here's my question:  How can you create=20 performances
on the pc (with patches/partials/samples) and then
tran= smit=20 to the 760?  I have TONS of great sounds, but
the idea of using th= e=20 760 to set them all up in a
performance makes my head hurt.  I loo= ked=20 at
translator, but I guess I'm too stupid (I set up a
virtual drive,= but=20 then it never appeared for me to
drag samples into).  And even sti= ll -=20 sample level
dump leaves a lot of work to be done on the 760. =20 Does
anyone have a silver bullet?

-declan




---= =20 DAJA300@aol.com wrote:

> 
> What version of Wavelab=20= are=20 you referring to and is
> this a direct transfer? 
>=20 Can  get more details?


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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu Aug 12 11:21:16 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13803 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:21:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:21:16 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408121521.LAA13803@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA13799 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:21:14 -0400 Received: (qmail 24188 invoked by uid 65534); 12 Aug 2004 15:20:45 -0000 Received: from dsl-082-082-193-199.arcor-ip.net (EHLO [192.168.0.2]) (82.82.193.199) by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 12 Aug 2004 17:20:45 +0200 X-Authenticated: #670536 Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 17:20:42 +0200 From: Chris Reply-To: Chris X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <671579981.20040812172042@gmx.net> To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Wavelab >> s-760 sample dump MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Dac> I looked at Dac> translator, but I guess I'm too stupid (I set up a Dac> virtual drive, but then it never appeared for me to Dac> drag samples into).  And even still - sample level Dac> dump leaves a lot of work to be done on the 760.  Does Dac> anyone have a silver bullet? The same here. For me the virtual drive also does not appear anywhere with the recent version of translator. That's exactly the same "error" I have here, too... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu Aug 12 18:30:39 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA31418 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:30:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:30:39 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408122230.SAA31418@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtp3.moose.co.uk (mx65.3.vlan.3d.net.uk [217.169.23.165]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA31414 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:30:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 26161 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2004 22:30:26 -0000 Received: from 195-102-149-228.adsl.moose.co.uk (HELO [192.168.1.11]) (195.102.149.228) by mx68.moose.co.uk (195.102.144.68) with ESMTP; 12 Aug 2004 22:30:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.1.20040809194448.01ba3ec0@mail.dezzanet.net.au> References: <2C408E71F59E7231BD29D5B7@blurk> <2E48E396-E6C0-11D8-BA31-003065B5855C@moose.co.uk> <6.0.3.0.1.20040809194448.01ba3ec0@mail.dezzanet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <38B3A620-ECAF-11D8-B7CC-003065B5855C@moose.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Steve Brodie Subject: Re: sgroup S10 System Ex. Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 23:30:32 +0100 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; It's a good point but I haven't been able to get anything to load from Sysex (except files I have saved myself and files from the BAM folder in the archive) despite trying all 16 midi channels! I suspect you are on the right lines I just can't quite get to the bottom of it, but thanks for your help anyway it's appreciated. Steve On 9 Aug 2004, at 10:50, Giles wrote: > Do you have the MIDI channel right? If i remember correctly S10 > manager will convert the file to the channel you have set in the > program, where as I assume the Sysex Librarian wouldn't do this. > Perhaps the files that don't work are saved as a different channel. > The S-10's midi receive channel needs to be the same as the sysex > file's midi channel. > > At 07:16 PM 5/08/2004, you wrote: > >> Well my tests are far from exhaustive but it seems that the only files >> from the archive which work are from the Brian Andrew Marek (BAM) >> folder, the files from the original Roland ,and Li'l Chips libraries >> won't load in SysEx Librarian (Mac OSX). Interestingly these files do >> work with S10 Manager on the PC and if I load them into the S10 from >> S10 Manager and then save from the S10 into S10 Manager these files >> work with Sysex Librarian on the Mac. All that loading and saving is a >> bit time consuming though and as the PC is in a different room to the >> S10 I would like to get it all running from my Mac if possible. >> >> I'd be glad to know if you have any further thoughts on this. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve >> >> On 5 Aug 2004, at 00:31, Bernie Maier wrote: >> >>> >>> Steve Brodie: >>> >>>> I have been having some trouble transmitting S10 system exclusive >>>> files to >>>> my S10 from Mac OSX using SysEx Librarian. I've downloaded loads of >>>> the >>>> files from the sgroup archive and some will load into the S10 and >>>> some won't >>>> and I haven't yet found any pattern as to which work and which >>>> don't? >>>> >>>> If anybody knows what's up or has experience of the same thing I'd >>>> be >>>> grateful for some help. >>> >>> Do the files that work work consistently, or is just random which >>> files >>> works at any particular time? The S-10 sysex uses a handshaking >>> protocol, >>> and if the sender (SysEx Librarian) is just dumping data without >>> waiting >>> for the acknowledgements from the S-10, I think it is possible that >>> some >>> files would fluke it through and others would fail. >>> >>> I'm not familiar with SysEx Librarian, so I don't know if it >>> understands >>> the S-10's handshaking protocol. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Bernie >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- ---- >>> "I've seen the shape the world of electronic music is in. >>> Most of it is pear-shaped." >>> Jim Holmes - September 2003 >>> >>> - >>> Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca >>> For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca >>> and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> This email has been scanned for viruses by the canit Virus and Spam >>> Service >>> http://www.moose.co.uk/canit/ >> >> - >> Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca >> For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca >> and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > > > --------------------------------------------- > This email has been scanned for viruses by the canit Virus and Spam > Service > http://www.moose.co.uk/canit/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Mon Aug 16 19:12:13 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13422 for sgroup_site5-list; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:12:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:12:13 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408162312.TAA13422@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtp1.pp.htv.fi (smtp1.pp.htv.fi [213.243.153.34]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA13418 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:12:11 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (cs170132.pp.htv.fi [213.243.170.132]) by smtp1.pp.htv.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E0A7FF4F for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 02:12:14 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <41213F46.9020200@iki.fi> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 02:12:06 +0300 From: Thomas Malmberg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: sgroup S-330 PDF manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi, I've just created a PDF version of the existing lilchips TIFF scans of the S-300 manual. As a matter of fact it's quite usable compared to the TIFF's. If anyone is interested, I'll be happy to send it, or make it publically (where?) available. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue Aug 17 07:48:23 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA12866 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:48:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:48:23 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408171148.HAA12866@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from hnexfe09.hetnet.nl (hnexfe09.hetnet.nl [195.121.6.175]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12862 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 07:48:22 -0400 Received: from p200mmx ([195.121.38.63]) by hnexfe09.hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6874); Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:47:51 +0200 Message-ID: <000601c48451$79dd9a40$b1b5fea9@p200mmx> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: <41213F46.9020200@iki.fi> Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 PDF manual Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 13:57:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2004 11:47:51.0829 (UTC) FILETIME=[06B98C50:01C48450] Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Nice job ! How big is the pdf-file ? If it's not too large (say around one MB, I don't have that much space) I'd be glad to host it. And/or if it's larger I guess the dedicated Roland S-sampler sites of people here would be an excellent location. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Malmberg To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 1:12 AM Subject: sgroup S-330 PDF manual > > Hi, I've just created a PDF version of the existing lilchips TIFF scans > of the S-300 manual. As a matter of fact it's quite usable compared to > the TIFF's. If anyone is interested, I'll be happy to send it, or make > it publically (where?) available. > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue Aug 17 18:56:36 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08079 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:56:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:56:36 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408172256.SAA08079@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from hnexfe11.hetnet.nl (hnexfe11.hetnet.nl [195.121.6.177]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08075 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:56:34 -0400 Received: from p200mmx ([195.121.37.135]) by hnexfe11.hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6874); Wed, 18 Aug 2004 00:56:07 +0200 Message-ID: <006201c484ae$8353ce20$b1b5fea9@p200mmx> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: "Thomas Malmberg" , References: <200408170307.i7H37jea034087@localhost.generalconcepts.com> <41224CCC.6030601@iki.fi> Subject: sgroup Re: S-330 PDF manual 4.5MB Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 01:04:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2004 22:56:07.0455 (UTC) FILETIME=[61948AF0:01C484AD] Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi Thomas, You scared me with the 4.5MB that was indicated in the subject line ! :-) Then I saw the file was smaller but it wasn't complete so the 4.5MB will likely be indeed the size. While my modest webspace could host this for a while, I'm afraid my hompage only eats files of 3 MB max. (A silly limitation imho, but that doesn't help us here). So we need to split it in smaller parts (if still possible) or ask the people with the S-sampler websites if they want to host it. Anyone ? Bye, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Malmberg To: Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 8:22 PM Subject: S-330 PDF manual 4.5MB > Here you go! > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 18 06:59:10 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA05968 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:59:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:59:10 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408181059.GAA05968@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from piraten.student.lu.se (piraten.student.lu.se [130.235.208.46]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05964 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:59:09 -0400 Received: from laptop (e211.vildanden.afb.lu.se [130.235.170.59]) by piraten.student.lu.se (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I2N008KN2IJ29@piraten.student.lu.se> for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 12:59:08 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 04:25:26 +0200 From: Thomas Persson Subject: Re: sgroup Re: S-330 PDF manual 4.5MB In-reply-to: <006201c484ae$8353ce20$b1b5fea9@p200mmx> To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Cc: Message-id: <87657h18tl.fsf@spacecentre.se> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) References: <200408170307.i7H37jea034087@localhost.generalconcepts.com> <41224CCC.6030601@iki.fi> <006201c484ae$8353ce20$b1b5fea9@p200mmx> Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; "P. Vermeeren" writes: > Hi Thomas, > > You scared me with the 4.5MB that was indicated in the subject line ! :-) > Then I saw the file was smaller but it wasn't complete so the 4.5MB will > likely be indeed the size. > > While my modest webspace could host this for a while, I'm afraid my hompage > only eats files > of 3 MB max. (A silly limitation imho, but that doesn't help us here). > > So we need to split it in smaller parts (if still possible) or ask the > people with the S-sampler websites if they want to host it. > > Anyone ? I can host it on my server: www.spacecentre.se. Drop me an email and we can arrange it. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 18 13:14:23 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21807 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:14:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:14:23 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408181714.NAA21807@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from s2.syonex.com (s2.syonex.com [69.90.72.228]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21803 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:14:23 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s2.syonex.com (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i7IHELbw068953; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:14:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i7IHEKAY042556; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:14:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:14:20 -0400 (EDT) From: John Sellens Message-Id: <200408181714.i7IHEKAY042556@localhost.generalconcepts.com> To: Peter.Vermeeren@hetnet.nl, malmberg@iki.fi, sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: sgroup Re: S-330 PDF manual 4.5MB Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; The S330 "Guide Book" (courtesy of Thomas Malmberg - thanks!) is now on the sgroup web site at http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/archive/docs/ as the file S330_guide_book.pdf Cheers! John sgropu guy jsellens@generalconcepts.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed Aug 18 17:33:12 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00447 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:33:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:33:12 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408182133.RAA00447@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00443 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:33:10 -0400 Received: from user-uinj2nt.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.138.253] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BxY3V-0005HR-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:33:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4123CB15.3040905@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:33:09 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SGroup List Subject: sgroup Excellent price on Northstar Drumscape sample CD for S-700 samplers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; For those of you with S-700 series samplers looking for an excellent collection of drums samples (some fills and loops but not many, just many excellent sounding drum kits) ZZounds has the Northstar Drumscape sample CD-ROM on sale for $19.95, or 96% off list! I think this is where I bought this CD. I don't think you could get illegally for a better price: http://www.zzounds.com/e--DPROLCDDS60711-C042201-L97 They've also got the excellent SPD-20 MIDI percussion controller - over 700 excellent 16-bit tunable samples - on sale for $589.95. I paid almost $800 for mine: http://www.zzounds.com/e--DPROLSPD20-C042201-L235 Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. 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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu Aug 19 20:52:02 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04837 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:52:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:52:02 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408200052.UAA04837@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA04814 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:52:00 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.4.) id 6.1da.2968ef40 (4410) for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1da.2968ef40.2e56a511@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 20:51:29 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Wavelab >> s-760 sample dump To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1092963089" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5113 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1092963089 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forgot if I said thanks. Thanks Dave >> Okie Dokie: Here's how you transfer .wav files from your pc to your S-760 using MIDI and Wavelab. btw, it's Wavelab 3 (i think). Connect the pc's midi in to the 760's out and vice versa. Open Wavelab. Up top, under "Sampling" go to "Sampler Configuration". Select "Roland S-760" from the list. Set the Midi I/O and device ID. on the 760, go to system/midi and set out/thru to out. Check to make sure the ID jives with what you just entered in wavelab. back in wavelab select sampling/transmit and away you go! you might have to tweak some settings here & there - I've only done this once or twice, but it seems like a nice method. Given that there's a "recieve" I suppose you could do the opposite? Here's my question: How can you create performances on the pc (with patches/partials/samples) and then transmit to the 760? I have TONS of great sounds, but the idea of using the 760 to set them all up in a performance makes my head hurt. I looked at translator, but I guess I'm too stupid (I set up a virtual drive, but then it never appeared for me to drag samples into). And even still - sample level dump leaves a lot of work to be done on the 760. Does anyone have a silver bullet? -declan --- DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > > What version of Wavelab are you referring to and is > this a direct transfer? > Can get more details? ===== www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * << -------------------------------1092963089 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Forgot if I said thanks.
 
Thanks
Dave
 
>>
Okie Dokie:  Here's how you transfer .wav files fromyour pc to your S-760 using MIDI and Wavelab.

btw, it's Wavelab 3 (= i think). 

Connect the pc's midi in to the 760's out and viceversa.  Open Wavelab.  Up top, under "Sampling" go to
"Sample= r Configuration".  Select "Roland S-760" from
the list.  Set th= e Midi I/O and device ID.

on the 760, go to system/midi and set out/t= hru to out.
Check to make sure the ID jives with what you just
entered= in wavelab.

back in wavelab select sampling/transmit and away yougo!  you might have to tweak some settings here &
there - I've=20= only done this once or twice, but it
seems like a nice method.  Give= n that there's a
"recieve" I suppose you could do the opposite?

He= re's my question:  How can you create performances
on the pc (with p= atches/partials/samples) and then
transmit to the 760?  I have TONS=20= of great sounds, but
the idea of using the 760 to set them all up in aperformance makes my head hurt.  I looked at
translator, but I gues= s I'm too stupid (I set up a
virtual drive, but then it never appeared fo= r me to
drag samples into).  And even still - sample level
dump l= eaves a lot of work to be done on the 760.  Does
anyone have a silve= r bullet?

-declan




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> What version of Wavelab are you referring to and is> this a direct transfer? 
> Can  get more details?
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-------------------------------1092963089-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri Aug 20 00:16:41 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA13400 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:16:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:16:41 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408200416.AAA13400@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA13396 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:16:40 -0400 Received: from pool0293.cvx5-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.178.153.38] helo=rhoffmanix) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1By0pY-0003pI-00; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:16:44 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01c4866c$02ea0e60$2699b2d1@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: , References: <1da.2968ef40.2e56a511@aol.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Wavelab >> s-760 sample dump Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:13:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C48631.54CF2E80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C48631.54CF2E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My question is: Is the wave file that gets downloaded have the Roland = equalization applied to it. If not, I believe, the wave file would = sound thin.=20 Randy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DAJA300@aol.com=20 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca=20 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 5:51 PM Subject: Re: sgroup Wavelab >> s-760 sample dump Forgot if I said thanks. Thanks Dave >> Okie Dokie: Here's how you transfer .wav files from your pc to your S-760 using MIDI and Wavelab. btw, it's Wavelab 3 (i think). =20 Connect the pc's midi in to the 760's out and vice versa. Open Wavelab. Up top, under "Sampling" go to "Sampler Configuration". Select "Roland S-760" from the list. Set the Midi I/O and device ID. on the 760, go to system/midi and set out/thru to out. Check to make sure the ID jives with what you just entered in wavelab. back in wavelab select sampling/transmit and away you go! you might have to tweak some settings here & there - I've only done this once or twice, but it seems like a nice method. Given that there's a "recieve" I suppose you could do the opposite? Here's my question: How can you create performances on the pc (with patches/partials/samples) and then transmit to the 760? I have TONS of great sounds, but the idea of using the 760 to set them all up in a performance makes my head hurt. I looked at translator, but I guess I'm too stupid (I set up a virtual drive, but then it never appeared for me to drag samples into). And even still - sample level dump leaves a lot of work to be done on the 760. Does anyone have a silver bullet? -declan --- DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > =20 > What version of Wavelab are you referring to and is > this a direct transfer? =20 > Can get more details? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D www.declanhalpin.com * Online Gallery * News * Links * << ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C48631.54CF2E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My question is: Is the wave file that gets downloaded have the = Roland=20 equalization applied to it.  If not, I believe, the wave file would = sound=20 thin.
 
Randy
 
 
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From:=20 DAJA300@aol.com=20
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 = 5:51=20 PM
Subject: Re: sgroup Wavelab = >>=20 s-760 sample dump

Forgot if I said thanks.
 
Thanks
Dave
 
>>
Okie Dokie:  Here's how you transfer .wav files=20 from
your pc to your S-760 using MIDI and Wavelab.

btw, it's = Wavelab=20 3 (i think). 

Connect the pc's midi in to the 760's out = and=20 vice
versa.  Open Wavelab.  Up top, under "Sampling" go=20 to
"Sampler Configuration".  Select "Roland S-760" from
the = list.  Set the Midi I/O and device ID.

on the 760, go to=20 system/midi and set out/thru to out.
Check to make sure the ID = jives with=20 what you just
entered in wavelab.

back in wavelab select=20 sampling/transmit and away you
go!  you might have to tweak = some=20 settings here &
there - I've only done this once or twice, but=20 it
seems like a nice method.  Given that there's = a
"recieve" I=20 suppose you could do the opposite?

Here's my question:  = How can=20 you create performances
on the pc (with patches/partials/samples) = and=20 then
transmit to the 760?  I have TONS of great sounds, = but
the=20 idea of using the 760 to set them all up in a
performance makes my = head=20 hurt.  I looked at
translator, but I guess I'm too stupid (I = set up=20 a
virtual drive, but then it never appeared for me to
drag = samples=20 into).  And even still - sample level
dump leaves a lot of = work to be=20 done on the 760.  Does
anyone have a silver=20 bullet?

-declan




--- DAJA300@aol.com=20 wrote:

> 
> What version of Wavelab are you = referring to=20 and is
> this a direct transfer? 
> Can  get = more=20 details?


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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri Aug 20 07:41:25 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA32373 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:41:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:41:25 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408201141.HAA32373@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from ms-smtp-03-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.137]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA32369 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:41:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pow229152.columbus.rr.com [204.210.229.152]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i7KBf6Vf028005; Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:50:55 -0400 From: Gaffa Reply-To: Gaffa X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <169506502.20040820075055@columbus.rr.com> To: DAJA300@aol.com CC: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re[2]: sgroup Wavelab >> s-760 sample dump In-Reply-To: <1da.2968ef40.2e56a511@aol.com> References: <1da.2968ef40.2e56a511@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Here's an alternative I use for transferring files. http://lexisphere.com/roland/ Thursday, August 19, 2004, 8:51:29 PM, you wrote: Dac> Forgot if I said thanks. Dac>   Dac> Thanks Dac> Dave Dac>   >>> Dac> Okie Dokie:  Here's how you transfer .wav files from Dac> your pc to your S-760 using MIDI and Wavelab. Dac> btw, it's Wavelab 3 (i think).  Dac> Connect the pc's midi in to the 760's out and vice Dac> versa.  Open Wavelab.  Up top, under "Sampling" go to Dac> "Sampler Configuration".  Select "Roland S-760" from Dac> the list.  Set the Midi I/O and device ID. Dac> on the 760, go to system/midi and set out/thru to out. Dac> Check to make sure the ID jives with what you just Dac> entered in wavelab. Dac> back in wavelab select sampling/transmit and away you Dac> go!  you might have to tweak some settings here Dac> there - I've only done this once or twice, but it Dac> seems like a nice method.  Given that there's a Dac> "recieve" I suppose you could do the opposite? Dac> Here's my question:  How can you create performances Dac> on the pc (with patches/partials/samples) and then Dac> transmit to the 760?  I have TONS of great sounds, but Dac> the idea of using the 760 to set them all up in a Dac> performance makes my head hurt.  I looked at Dac> translator, but I guess I'm too stupid (I set up a Dac> virtual drive, but then it never appeared for me to Dac> drag samples into).  And even still - sample level Dac> dump leaves a lot of work to be done on the 760.  Does Dac> anyone have a silver bullet? Dac> -declan Dac> --- DAJA300@aol.com wrote: >>  >> What version of Wavelab are you referring to and is >> this a direct transfer?  >> Can  get more details? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Mon Aug 23 12:02:32 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA28213 for sgroup_site5-list; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:02:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:02:32 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408231602.MAA28213@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from s2.syonex.com (s2.syonex.com [69.90.72.228]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28209 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:02:30 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s2.syonex.com (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i7NG2Vbw099369 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:02:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i7NG2VrN074979 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:02:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com (outbound20-2.nyc.untd.com [64.136.20.160]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA23652 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:13:01 -0400 Received: from outbound21-sr.nyc.untd.com (webmail27.nyc.untd.com [10.140.30.169]) by smtpout06.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABAUV83HASMQXRS for (sender ); Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:11:51 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: eCR5nwcvOIpjOBnRiKRw/oyJt319I5Ord47Ksok/KMccocxoOnY+NWOSurSPwwxU Received: (from fiahproductions@juno.com) by webmail27.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id J5QNTVFR; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:10:57 PDT Received: from [4.158.222.88] by webmail27.nyc.untd.com with HTTP: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:10:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [4.158.222.88] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "fiahproductions@juno.com" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:10:39 GMT To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: sgroup Roland question X-Mailer: WebMail Version 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <20040823.071057.6762.384559@webmail27.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:2:3033596020 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; This may be overkill to send this question to the mailing list and I apologize in advance if I've wasted anyone's time. I have a simple question. I'm producing a live stage show that requires 12 to 20 sound effects. I've recorded(i.e.stored) these sound effects in sequence on a CD disc. I need to operate them independently of the music soundtrack that will be playing. And some of the sound effects need to happen instantly to match the live action that occurs on the stage. I can't wait for a CD to search, cue and play even if it only takes a second. I need to have the effects "at my fingertips". Is there a sampler that I can load the effects into and then by labelling a series of buttons, I'll have the effects I need "constantly ready"? Someone suggested a Roland JS-30 sampler for this. Does anyone agree with this idea or are there other ways to accomplish the same goal? I need a quick answer if possible. Thanks in advance for suggestions and help. Scott Simon - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Mon Aug 23 14:09:14 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01007 for sgroup_site5-list; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:09:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:09:14 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200408231809.OAA01007@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from s2.syonex.com (s2.syonex.com [69.90.72.228]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01003 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:09:13 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s2.syonex.com (8.12.3p3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id i7NI9Ebw044216 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:09:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i7NI9EVN082501 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:09:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.82]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA00890 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:06:40 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO mainpc.pacbell.net) (dbarton@pacbell.net@64.175.108.84 with login) by smtp812.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2004 18:05:13 -0000 Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20040823102650.03a0c0b0@pop.compuserve.com> X-Sender: skylab2000@pop.compuserve.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:27:38 -0700 To: "fiahproductions@juno.com" , sgroup@sgroup.ca From: dennis barton Subject: Re: sgroup Roland question In-Reply-To: <20040823.071057.6762.384559@webmail27.nyc.untd.com> References: <20040823.071057.6762.384559@webmail27.nyc.untd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; At 8/23/2004 07:10 a, fiahproductions@juno.com wrote: > > > >This may be overkill to send this question to the mailing list and I >apologize in advance if I've wasted anyone's time. > >I have a simple question. I'm producing a live stage show that requires >12 to 20 sound effects. I've recorded(i.e.stored) these sound effects in >sequence on a CD disc. I need to operate them independently of the music >soundtrack that will be playing. And some of the sound effects need to >happen instantly to match the live action that occurs on the stage. I >can't wait for a CD to search, cue and play even if it only takes a >second. I need to have the effects "at my fingertips". Is there a >sampler that I can load the effects into and then by labelling a series of >buttons, I'll have the effects I need "constantly ready"? Yes, any sampler can do exactly this. |_e_/ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.