>>just guessing - it's probably been unplugged and off for a long= time, give
it 20 minutes to really warm up that tube and I bet it will s= harpen up, and
the edges will disappear. If not then it could require geo= metric fine-tuning
(divergence etc - usually done with pots outside or in= side the unit).

Good luck - if it's cheap why not go for it? I've nev= er come across an RGB
and I've been looking for three years.<<

>>Well, the S-760 screen isn't exactly the same thing as looking=20= at a TV show - it's mostly big text and just a few different colors, mostly=20= blue and white with some black, red and yellow IIRC. A little blurrine= ss might not hurt too much, but you really need to see it in person. N= o chance of carrying your 760 into the store, plugging the power into the sa= me place the Magnavox is plugged in, connecting your cable and trying it out= ?

Jesse<<

-------------------------------1083800463-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed May 5 20:36:46 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10861 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 5 May 2004 20:36:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 May 2004 20:36:46 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405060036.UAA10861@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com (tungsten.btinternet.com [194.73.73.81]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA10857 for ; Wed, 5 May 2004 20:36:45 -0400 Received: from [81.154.204.21] (helo=tallwhiteone) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #25) id 1BLWsQ-0005v2-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Thu, 06 May 2004 01:36:38 +0100 Message-ID: <007001c43302$3fc91370$15cc9a51@tallwhiteone> From: "TonyB" To: Subject: sgroup UK - S750 & accessories for sale. Offers ?? Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 01:37:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01C4330A.A157EC80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C4330A.A157EC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hertfordshire, UK. S750, excellent condition. 18Meg Ram. Original monitor (old but still working !!) Original Mouse. SCSI Syquest (cartridge) drive, and large library (10 * 125 Meg Discs). All necessary cables & SCSI terminator. I will sell all or nothing. Offers please, to Tony(dot)Bywaters(at)btinternet.com Also available.. SPX90 Mark One good condition. TX81Z Good Condition Yamaha TG55 fair condition. Sorry if I shouldn't do this on the group list.. but I'm kind of = desparate. Many thanks. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C4330A.A157EC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hertfordshire, UK.

S750, excellent condition.

18Meg Ram.

Original monitor (old but still working = !!)

Original Mouse.

SCSI Syquest (cartridge) drive, and = large library=20 (10 * 125 Meg Discs).

All necessary cables & SCSI=20 terminator.

I will sell all or = nothing.

Offers please, to=20 Tony(dot)Bywaters(at)btinternet.com

Also available..

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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu May 6 08:42:21 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08591 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 6 May 2004 08:42:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 08:42:21 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405061242.IAA08591@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08587 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 08:42:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.167.46] (helo=wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BLiCi-0003N6-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Thu, 06 May 2004 08:42:20 -0400 Message-ID: <17435696.1083847340457.JavaMail.root@wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 08:42:20 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Jesse Segovia Reply-To: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Congrats to Dave for finding a good monitoring solution for his 760. I've still got the Roland conversion cable but I use it for both my S-550 and my -760 and I'm getting tired of sneaking around behind my rack to unplug one and plug in the other. For color display what are my inexpensive monitor options for the S-760? Can I use any of the video outs and still get color? Should I look for a cheap RGB monitor like Dave did or are there any other cheap alternatives? Composite? RCA? Thanks. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu May 6 08:48:24 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08855 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 6 May 2004 08:48:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 08:48:24 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405061248.IAA08855@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08851 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 08:48:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.167.46] (helo=wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BLiIa-0002cs-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Thu, 06 May 2004 08:48:24 -0400 Message-ID: <17877957.1083847704383.JavaMail.root@wamui08.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 08:48:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Jesse Segovia Reply-To: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup UK - S750 & accessories for sale. Offers ?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; What kind of stuff do you have on the Syquest carts? Jesse TonyB wrote: > Hertfordshire, UK. > > S750, excellent condition. > 18Meg Ram. > Original monitor (old but still working !!) > Original Mouse. > SCSI Syquest (cartridge) drive, and large library (10 * 125 Meg Discs). > All necessary cables & SCSI terminator. > > I will sell all or nothing. > Offers please, to Tony(dot)Bywaters(at)btinternet.com > > Also available.. > SPX90 Mark One good condition. > TX81Z Good Condition > Yamaha TG55 fair condition. > > Sorry if I shouldn't do this on the group list.. but I'm kind of desparate. > Many thanks. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu May 6 09:59:48 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11799 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 6 May 2004 09:59:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 09:59:48 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405061359.JAA11799@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from ns.kapsch.net (ns.kapsch.net [193.154.217.100]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11795 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 09:59:46 -0400 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at [148.198.40.46]) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.12) with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 May 2004 15:59:12 +0200 Received: from TIMON.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.115]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 6 May 2004 15:59:11 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 15:59:11 +0200 Message-ID: <1C18373E9078F84E9CA4AA8127D2EA32119474@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Thread-Index: AcQza+JbpN6wfEubRpyHxI5yUIiW8gABe8fQ From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Jesse Segovia" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2004 13:59:11.0576 (UTC) FILETIME=[4EDF4580:01C43372] Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; >I've still got the Roland conversion cable but I use it for both my = S-550=20 >and my -760 and I'm getting tired of sneaking around behind my rack to=20 >unplug one and plug in the other. A video siwtch woukld be the best solution. I will build one for 8 inputs as I have 5 samplers now, but I can find = no=20 time to make the PCB. >For color display what are my inexpensive monitor options for the = S-760? =20 >Can I use any of the video outs and still get color? On the S760 yes as also the RCA output is in color. On the S550 and S330 the RCA output is only black/white. >Should I look for a cheap RGB monitor like Dave did or are there any = other=20 >cheap alternatives? Composite? RCA? A simple TV with RCA input or SCART input is the sheapest solution. I have a small 6 inch TV that works fine... The small 5 to 7 inch LCD monitor with video input are my solution for=20 the future - they cost around 150 to 180 euro on ebay. Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. 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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu May 6 21:39:42 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08170 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 6 May 2004 21:39:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 21:39:42 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405070139.VAA08170@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA08166 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 21:39:42 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.bb.3f7f6612 (4238) for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 21:39:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 21:39:14 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1083893954" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5017 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1083893954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Jesse Have you tried looking for an Atari SC1224 Color Monitor? I heard those are the best ones but I don't know for sure. They should be going cheap now. Maybe Ebay? Dave >>Congrats to Dave for finding a good monitoring solution for his 760. I've still got the Roland conversion cable but I use it for both my S-550 and my -760 and I'm getting tired of sneaking around behind my rack to unplug one and plug in the other. For color display what are my inexpensive monitor options for the S-760? Can I use any of the video outs and still get color? Should I look for a cheap RGB monitor like Dave did or are there any other cheap alternatives? Composite? RCA? Thanks. Jesse<< -------------------------------1083893954 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Jesse

Have you tried looking for an Atari SC1224 Color Monitor? I heard those= are the best ones but I don't know for sure. They should be going cheap now= . Maybe Ebay?

Dave

>>Congrats to Dave for finding a good monitoring solution for his= 760. I've still got the Roland conversion cable but I use it for both= my S-550 and my -760 and I'm getting tired of sneaking around behind my rac= k to unplug one and plug in the other.

For color display what are my=20= inexpensive monitor options for the S-760? Can I use any of the video=20= outs and still get color?

Should I look for a cheap RGB monitor like=20= Dave did or are there any other cheap alternatives? Composite? R= CA?

Thanks.

Jesse<<

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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu May 6 23:02:43 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA11599 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 6 May 2004 23:02:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 23:02:43 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405070302.XAA11599@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA11595 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 23:02:40 -0400 Received: from user-uinj4o3.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.147.3] helo=mindspring.com) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BLvdH-0004PF-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Thu, 06 May 2004 23:02:40 -0400 Message-ID: <409AFC4E.8010806@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 23:02:38 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SGroup List Subject: Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; I've got one of these but you can't connect it to a 760 or 550, at least as far as I can tell. The SC1224 monitor cable is some strange 13-pin monstrosity that looks like this, inside of a round cable connector: **** **** **** * I've heard before you can connect these to Roland samplers but I can't figure out how. Did later SC1224s have a different cable? Jesse DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > Thanks Jesse > > Have you tried looking for an Atari SC1224 Color Monitor? I heard > those are the best ones but I don't know for sure. They should be > going cheap now. Maybe Ebay? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu May 6 23:39:12 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13129 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 6 May 2004 23:39:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 23:39:12 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405070339.XAA13129@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA13125 for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 23:39:11 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.12c.4108cbf4 (3850) for ; Thu, 6 May 2004 23:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <12c.4108cbf4.2dcc5ec0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 23:38:40 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1083901120" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5017 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1083901120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jesse they are all the same connection type. Even the black & white ones. You need an RGB Male to 13Pin Din Female converter I think. There used to be a company called RedMan Cable in Nashville TN. I am not sure if they are still around. If you know how you can look at the S760 RBG pin out and build one yourself. I will have to try and dig mine up but it should be online somewhere. I don't think you need all the pins maybe the bare minimum. Hz Vert R G B etc Someone else here might be more of an expert with the cables. I haven't actually built one. Dave >> I've got one of these but you can't connect it to a 760 or 550, at least as far as I can tell. The SC1224 monitor cable is some strange 13-pin monstrosity that looks like this, inside of a round cable connector: **** **** **** * I've heard before you can connect these to Roland samplers but I can't figure out how. Did later SC1224s have a different cable? Jesse DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > Thanks Jesse > > Have you tried looking for an Atari SC1224 Color Monitor? I heard > those are the best ones but I don't know for sure. They should be > going cheap now. Maybe Ebay? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. -------------------------------1083901120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jesse they are all the same connection type. Even the black & white= ones. You need an RGB Male to 13Pin Din Female converter I think.= There used to be a company called RedMan Cable in Nashville TN. I am not su= re if they are still around. If you know how you can look at the S760 RBG&nb= sp;pin out and build one yourself. I will have to try and dig mine up b= ut it should be online somewhere. I don't think you need all the pins maybe=20= the bare minimum. Hz Vert R G B etc Someone else here might be more of an ex= pert with the cables. I haven't actually built one.

Dave

>>
I've got one of these but you can't connect it to a 760 or=20= 550, at least
as far as I can tell. The SC1224 monitor cable is so= me strange 13-pin
monstrosity that looks like this, inside of a round ca= ble connector:

****
****
****
*

I've hea= rd before you can connect these to Roland samplers but I can't
figure ou= t how. Did later SC1224s have a different cable?

Jesse

D= AJA300@aol.com wrote:

> Thanks Jesse
>
> Have y= ou tried looking for an Atari SC1224 Color Monitor? I heard
> those a= re the best ones but I don't know for sure. They should be
> going ch= eap now. Maybe Ebay?

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-------------------------------1083901120-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 02:58:37 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA21434 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 02:58:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 02:58:37 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405070658.CAA21434@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from fep01-app.kolumbus.fi (fep01-0.kolumbus.fi [193.229.0.41]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21430 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 02:58:36 -0400 Received: from harald9j7yiujw ([81.197.23.47]) by fep01-app.kolumbus.fi with SMTP id <20040507065840.NBBE4346.fep01-app.kolumbus.fi@harald9j7yiujw> for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:58:40 +0300 Message-ID: <000c01c43400$e3df67d0$2f17c551@harald9j7yiujw> From: "Jonne" To: Subject: sgroup S-550 Manual Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:59:49 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C4341A.089DA640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C4341A.089DA640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Just purchased the S-550, loving it, and the only thing missing is = the manual. I=B4ve seen some places that sell it, but heard some = stories that manuals never got to the buyer. I was just curious to know = if you have any good/bad experiences from different (internet)shops that = sell manuals/accessories? Thank you, Jonne ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C4341A.089DA640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

Just = purchased the S-550,=20 loving it, and the only thing missing is the manual. I=B4ve = seen some=20 places that sell it, but heard some stories that manuals never got to = the=20 buyer. I was just curious to know if you have any good/bad = experiences=20 from different (internet)shops that sell = manuals/accessories?

Thank you,

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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 03:37:02 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA23033 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 03:37:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 03:37:02 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405070737.DAA23033@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA23029 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 03:36:59 -0400 Received: (qmail 14628 invoked by uid 65534); 7 May 2004 07:36:34 -0000 Received: from dsl-80-242-241-24.quicknet.nl (HELO s) (80.242.241.24) by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 07 May 2004 09:36:34 +0200 X-Authenticated: #566185 Message-ID: <002401c43406$22a36c00$18f1f250@s> From: "Sjaak de Vos" To: References: <409AFC4E.8010806@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:37:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Check out the picture belonging to this (dutch) addvertisement (s760 & atari). Just click on the picture for a bigger one. http://muziek.2dehands.nl/markt/muz_instr/synthesizers/5552428.html Sjaak > > I've got one of these but you can't connect it to a 760 or 550, at least > as far as I can tell. The SC1224 monitor cable is some strange 13-pin > monstrosity that looks like this, inside of a round cable connector: > > **** > **** > **** > * > > I've heard before you can connect these to Roland samplers but I can't > figure out how. Did later SC1224s have a different cable? > > Jesse > > DAJA300@aol.com wrote: > > > Thanks Jesse > > > > Have you tried looking for an Atari SC1224 Color Monitor? I heard > > those are the best ones but I don't know for sure. They should be > > going cheap now. Maybe Ebay? > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 04:35:27 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA25735 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 04:35:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 04:35:27 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405070835.EAA25735@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mx1.kapsch.net (mx1.kapsch.net [193.154.217.114]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA25731 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 04:35:26 -0400 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at [148.198.9.36]) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.12) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 10:34:48 +0200 Received: from TIMON.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.115]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 7 May 2004 10:34:27 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:34:27 +0200 Message-ID: <1C18373E9078F84E9CA4AA8127D2EA32119487@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Thread-Index: AcQz5THdjF/sTbsnQD+S3hWkM4DU9wAKXszQ From: "Ullrich Peter" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2004 08:34:27.0165 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BABD8D0:01C4340E] Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; >Jesse they are all the same connection type. Even the black & white = ones. You need an RGB Male to 13Pin=20 >Din Female converter I think. There used to be a company called RedMan = Cable in Nashville TN. I am not=20 >sure if they are still around. If you know how you can look at the S760 = RBG pin out and build one yourself. I will=20 >have to try and dig mine up but it should be online somewhere. I don't = think you need all the pins maybe the=20 >bare minimum. Hz Vert R G B etc Someone else here might be more of an = expert with the cables. I haven't=20 >actually built one. I found a PDF that gives the specification of the AC1224 monitor, the = video signal timing and the pinning. If you need it please let me know... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich =20 Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ ----------------------------------------------------- *Tel: +43 (0)50 811 2265 =20 * Fax: +43 (0)-50 811 2209 *EFax: +43 (0)50 811 992265 .oooO *Email: mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net ( ) Oooo. ---------------------------------------------------- \ ( ( ) Private Homepage: http://www.ullrich.at.tt -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. 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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 09:07:25 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04446 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:07:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:07:25 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405071307.JAA04446@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mx1.kapsch.net (mx1.kapsch.net [193.154.217.114]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04439 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:07:24 -0400 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at [148.198.9.36]) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.12) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 May 2004 15:06:52 +0200 Received: from TIMON.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.115]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 7 May 2004 15:06:52 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: sgroup Roland DT-100 Digitizer Tablet for Roland Samplers on Ebay Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:06:51 +0200 Message-ID: <1C18373E9078F84E9CA4AA8127D2EA32119492@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup S-550 Manual Thread-Index: AcQ0BQFPdIKX5/8JTs+OaMU7bj322QALze5w From: "Ullrich Peter" To: , Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2004 13:06:52.0137 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A08A590:01C43434] Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; There is a Roland DT-100 Digitizer Tablet for Roland Samplers on Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=3DViewItem&item=3D37= 22223637 (not mine!!!) Maybe anyone of you is interested - at the moment it is at 26 $. Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich =20 Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ ----------------------------------------------------- *Tel: +43 (0)50 811 2265 =20 * Fax: +43 (0)-50 811 2209 *EFax: +43 (0)50 811 992265 .oooO *Email: mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net ( ) Oooo. ---------------------------------------------------- \ ( ( ) Private Homepage: http://www.ullrich.at.tt -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. 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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 09:19:24 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04964 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:19:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:19:24 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405071319.JAA04964@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04958 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:19:23 -0400 Received: from [192.168.167.44] (helo=wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BM5G3-0007nG-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Fri, 07 May 2004 09:19:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3281485.1083935959307.JavaMail.root@wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:19:19 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Jesse Segovia Reply-To: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Yep, that's my monitor. Does the ad say how's he connecting the two? Some kind of conversion cable, as Dave said? If it's not a cable that's widely available I don't understand why so many folks say Atari monitors are good to use with 760s. Jesse Sjaak de Vos wrote: >Check out the picture belonging to this (dutch) addvertisement (s760 & >atari). >Just click on the picture for a bigger one. > >http://muziek.2dehands.nl/markt/muz_instr/synthesizers/5552428.html - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 09:31:26 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA05463 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:31:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:31:26 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405071331.JAA05463@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05459 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:31:25 -0400 Received: from [192.168.167.44] (helo=wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BM5Rn-0003c2-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Fri, 07 May 2004 09:31:27 -0400 Message-ID: <9057043.1083936686854.JavaMail.root@wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:31:26 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Jesse Segovia Reply-To: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup List Subject: sgroup 88-key Weighted Keyboard MIDI Controller w/ Aftertouch, etc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; What's the best value in an 88-key weighted MIDI keyboard controller with aftertouch, etc.? I don't care about very fancy splits and new-fangled MIDI options, so I'm considering the big Roland A-80, which used to be available for around $600. I've heard the action on these things is incredible and the Roland S-700 sampler series CD-ROMs are formatted to be triggered by these synths. What do you think? Is this still a good choice or should I go for something more modern, maybe something with some great piano & e-piano sounds? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 09:50:27 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06256 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:50:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:50:27 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405071350.JAA06256@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mx1.kapsch.net (mx1.kapsch.net [193.154.217.114]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06252 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:50:25 -0400 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at [148.198.9.36]) by mx1.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.12) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 7 May 2004 15:49:54 +0200 Received: from TIMON.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.115]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Fri, 7 May 2004 15:49:37 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:49:37 +0200 Message-ID: <1C18373E9078F84E9CA4AA8127D2EA32119497@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Maybe Spam] Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Thread-Index: AcQ0OFdrNdn9HAMvSTOvalxbicWGywAAlBKA From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Jesse Segovia" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2004 13:49:37.0324 (UTC) FILETIME=[23011EC0:01C4343A] Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; There was a discussion about the SC1224 and S760 some time ago and I = stored=20 this message on my harddisk... Here it is: From genie.geis.com!k.meiere1 Sat Jun 26 01:27:42 1993 Received: from relay2.geis.com ([192.77.188.3]) by = watdragon.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <88159-3>; Sat, 26 Jun 1993 01:27:26 -0400 Received: by relay2.geis.com (1.37.109.4/15.6) id AA26875; Sat, 26 Jun 93 06:26:30 +0100 From: k.meiere1@genie.geis.com Message-Id: <9306260526.AA26875@relay2.geis.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1993 01:16:00 -0400 To: jmsellens@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Text post for Sgroup.net X-Genie-Id: 2686686 X-Genie-From: K.MEIERE1 Status: RO John, Is the following something I can post on the Sgroup net or do you want to place it in a filesystem for FTP use only, or don't bother doing either? Thanks, ] 13 GREEN HSYNC 4 <-----> 9 RED VSYNC 5 <-----> 12 HSYNC RED 6 <-----> 7 BLUE GREEN 7 <-----> 6 VSYNC BLUE 8 <-----> 10 GROUND --- TEST IT --- The cable acts as an adaptor and plugs into the existing cable on the Atari monitor. (NOTE: If you have a JVC style Atari monitor with a removeable cable adaptor, do not remove it). Before connecting the cable to the sampler and monitor, * ENSURE THAT BOTH THE SAMPLER AND MONITOR ARE TURNED OFF! * After connecting the cable, turn on the monitor and sampler and you should see a nice legible display. If the screen looks somewhat distorted at the top or bottom, you may need to turn down the brightness and/or contrast levels of the monitor. If the distortion persists, adjust the HHold potentiometer on the back of the monitor. Be sure to use a non-metalic screwdriver or similar tool to adjust the potentiometer. This adjustment is quite easy since you do not need to remove the monitor cover. If the display looks alright then you are ready to edit samples using the luxury of a quality RGB monitor. NOTE: 1) The S-550/220/330 sampler MIGHT work with this same cable if the pinouts are the same, but, it is untested. 2) The author assumes no responsibility for modifications 3) Similar results may be possible using RGB color monitors other than the ATARI SC1224 --- PARTS LIST --- 8-Pin Male DIN Connector Part # LXS81 13-Pin Female Atari Connector Part # ATR13FSD 12 Conductor Shielded Cable Part # BCL-12S-10 (Fewest conductors and shortest cable available from ORA = Electronics) Low Wattage Soldering Iron With Pencil Thin Tip Needlenose Pliers Vise Grip Pliers Wire Stripper Solder All Parts Available From; ORA Electronics 9410 Owensmouth Ave. Chatsworth, CA 91313 Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich =20 Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician Kapsch TrafficCom AG Vienna / Austria http://www.kapsch-trafficcom.com/ ----------------------------------------------------- (Tel: +43 (0)50 811 2265 =20 2 Fax: +43 (0)-50 811 2209 :EFax: +43 (0)50 811 992265 .oooO *Email: mailto:peter.ullrich@kapsch.net ( ) Oooo. ---------------------------------------------------- \ ( ( ) Private Homepage: http://www.ullrich.at.tt -----\_)----) /-------------------------------------------------------- (_/ This e-mail and any attachment and the included information are = confidential, protected by copyright and intended solely for the use of the named recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient any disclosure, = copying, distribution or retention of this e-mail is prohibited and may be = unlawful. 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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 09:57:59 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06564 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:57:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:57:59 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405071357.JAA06564@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06560 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 09:57:59 -0400 Received: from [192.168.167.44] (helo=wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BM5rU-0005cW-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Fri, 07 May 2004 09:58:00 -0400 Message-ID: <8714743.1083938280448.JavaMail.root@wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 09:58:00 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Jesse Segovia Reply-To: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Wow, thanks a lot! I don't think I can do the soldering myself (I've never soldered a thing!) but there should be a small electronics or repair shop nearby where I can have this done! Thanks again. Jesse -----Original Message----- From: Ullrich Peter Sent: May 7, 2004 9:49 AM To: Jesse Segovia , sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 There was a discussion about the SC1224 and S760 some time ago and I stored this message on my harddisk... - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 10:38:11 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08262 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 10:38:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:38:11 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405071438.KAA08262@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from dhuumrelay1.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net (dhuumrelay1.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net [194.139.33.71]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08258 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 10:38:09 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust169.tnt8.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.50.169]) by dhuumrelay1.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i47EbcEI029576 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 14:37:38 GMT X-Authenticated-As: none Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 16:37:31 +0200 Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Ingo Debus To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <158.34216e1d.2dcad58f@aol.com> Message-Id: <1276836C-A034-11D8-BEFC-000A9571C136@cityweb.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Am Donnerstag, 06.05.04 um 01:41 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.com: > The RGB connection I imagine requires the MU-1 Mouse before I can see=20= > that screen. Without it all I get are vertical/horizontal scrolling=20 > lines=A0even when changing the LCD/CRT/Mouse combinations. > Strange. Are you sure that's because there's no mouse connected? Never=20= used the RGB output myself, but it seems unlikely to me. If it's an older monitor it has perhaps some knobs on the back side (to=20= adjust sync). Does fiddling with these help? Also, the S-760 can be set to PAL or NTSC mode ("TV system" in the menu=20= you get on the LCD when holding the mode button while powering up).=20 Perhaps one mode works better than the other with your monitor. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 10:38:07 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08257 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 10:38:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 10:38:07 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405071438.KAA08257@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from dhuumrelay1.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net (dhuumrelay1.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net [194.139.33.71]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08253 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 10:38:06 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust169.tnt8.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.50.169]) by dhuumrelay1.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i47EbYEI029561 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 14:37:35 GMT X-Authenticated-As: none Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 16:37:27 +0200 Subject: Re: sgroup Cheap color monitor options for the S-760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Ingo Debus To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <409AFC4E.8010806@mindspring.com> Message-Id: <1020467D-A034-11D8-BEFC-000A9571C136@cityweb.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Am Freitag, 07.05.04 um 05:02 Uhr schrieb Jesse Segovia: > I've got one of these but you can't connect it to a 760 or 550, at > least as far as I can tell. The SC1224 monitor cable is some strange > 13-pin monstrosity that looks like this, inside of a round cable > connector: > > **** > **** > **** > * > > I've heard before you can connect these to Roland samplers but I can't > figure out how. If you don't need the monitor for anything else, you can chop off the plug and solder a correct one in place. More relieable than an adaptor. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 15:01:39 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19620 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 15:01:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:01:39 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405071901.PAA19620@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com (imo-m24.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.5]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19616 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 15:01:38 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.4e.2b512069 (4328) for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 15:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4e.2b512069.2dcd36e7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 15:00:55 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1083956455" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5028 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1083956455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ingo I did not see a TV system option in the menu when booting and holding mode button. Dave >>> The RGB connection I imagine requires the MU-1 Mouse before I can see > that screen. Without it all I get are vertical/horizontal scrolling > lines even when changing the LCD/CRT/Mouse combinations. > Strange. Are you sure that's because there's no mouse connected? Never used the RGB output myself, but it seems unlikely to me. If it's an older monitor it has perhaps some knobs on the back side (to adjust sync). Does fiddling with these help? Also, the S-760 can be set to PAL or NTSC mode ("TV system" in the menu you get on the LCD when holding the mode button while powering up). Perhaps one mode works better than the other with your monitor. Ingo<< -------------------------------1083956455 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ingo

I did not see a TV system option in the menu when booting and holding m= ode button.

Dave

>>> The RGB connection I imagine requires the MU-1 Mouse befor= e I can see
> that screen. Without it all I get are vertical/horizont= al scrolling
> lines even when changing the LCD/CRT/Mouse combin= ations.
>

Strange. Are you sure that's because there's no mouse= connected? Never
used the RGB output myself, but it seems unlikely to m= e.

If it's an older monitor it has perhaps some knobs on the back sid= e (to
adjust sync). Does fiddling with these help?
Also, the S-760 ca= n be set to PAL or NTSC mode ("TV system" in the menu
you get on the LCD= when holding the mode button while powering up).
Perhaps one mode works= better than the other with your monitor.

Ingo<<

-------------------------------1083956455-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 7 21:27:01 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03783 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 7 May 2004 21:27:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 21:27:01 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405080127.VAA03783@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from web41908.mail.yahoo.com (web41908.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.159]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA03779 for ; Fri, 7 May 2004 21:26:59 -0400 Message-ID: <20040508012623.20629.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [172.189.53.188] by web41908.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 May 2004 02:26:23 BST Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 02:26:23 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?kraftsman=20of=20music?= Subject: sgroup Glitches at the end of my samples.. Problem solved! To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1228535953-1083979583=:18532" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; --0-1228535953-1083979583=:18532 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey everyone, I came across an faq for the W30 that included a response to the same problem I had and provides a number of solutions that can also be applied for the S330/550 since they use very similar sampling hardware as the W30. :-) According to the faq, the cause is as follows: "The problem you encounter is coming from the fact that when your sample data stops, the sample value drops suddenly from a non zero value to zero value and apparently, the interpolation algorithm Roland uses 'gasps' at this situation." Here's the URL: http://gamelay.usami.com/~netboy/w30/sites/w30.msoft.it/w30faq.html#sectII Hope this proves useful for other people who might encounter the same problem at some point.. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now --0-1228535953-1083979583=:18532 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hey everyone,

I came across an faq for the W30 that included a response to the same problem I had and provides a number of solutions that can also be applied for the S330/550 since they use very similar sampling hardware as the W30. :-)

According to the faq, the cause is as follows:

"The problem you encounter is coming from the fact that when your sample data stops, the sample value drops suddenly from a non zero value to zero value and apparently, the interpolation algorithm Roland uses 'gasps' at this situation."

Here's the URL:
http://gamelay.usami.com/~netboy/w30/sites/w30.msoft.it/w30faq.html#sectII

Hope this proves useful for other people who might encounter the sam e problem at some point..

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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sat May 8 03:12:39 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18427 for sgroup_site5-list; Sat, 8 May 2004 03:12:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 03:12:39 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405080712.DAA18427@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA18423 for ; Sat, 8 May 2004 03:12:38 -0400 Received: from pool0018.cvx7-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.178.164.18] helo=rhoffmanix) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BMM0a-0002W0-00; Sat, 08 May 2004 03:12:28 -0400 Message-ID: <001101c434cb$dcda0e60$12a4b2d1@netcom.com> From: "Randy Hoffman" To: "Jesse Segovia" , "sgroup List" References: <9057043.1083936686854.JavaMail.root@wamui06.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: sgroup 88-key Weighted Keyboard MIDI Controller w/ Aftertouch, etc. Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 00:12:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; I've been using the Roland MKB300 for the longest time and always thought that one day I would trade up to the A80. It's a good deal. Hard to find. Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup List Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:31 AM Subject: sgroup 88-key Weighted Keyboard MIDI Controller w/ Aftertouch, etc. > > What's the best value in an 88-key weighted MIDI keyboard controller with aftertouch, etc.? I don't care about very fancy splits and new-fangled MIDI options, so I'm considering the big Roland A-80, which used to be available for around $600. I've heard the action on these things is incredible and the Roland S-700 sampler series CD-ROMs are formatted to be triggered by these synths. > > What do you think? Is this still a good choice or should I go for something more modern, maybe something with some great piano & e-piano sounds? > > Jesse > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sat May 8 09:52:24 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03068 for sgroup_site5-list; Sat, 8 May 2004 09:52:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 09:52:24 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405081352.JAA03068@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA03064 for ; Sat, 8 May 2004 09:52:22 -0400 Received: from user-uinj24o.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.136.152] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BMSFW-0003Nc-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Sat, 08 May 2004 09:52:18 -0400 Message-ID: <409CE60F.7010204@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 09:52:15 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup List Subject: Re: sgroup Glitches at the end of my samples.. Problem solved! References: <20040508012623.20629.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20040508012623.20629.qmail@web41908.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Wow, good catch! I wish I'd have known about this while I was busy sampling in the '80s and '90s - I've got a few samples, especially drum samples, which have this 'click' at the end. Jesse kraftsman of music wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I came across an faq for the W30 that included a response to the same > problem I had and provides a number of solutions that can also be > applied for the S330/550 since they use very similar sampling hardware > as the W30. :-) > > According to the faq, the cause is as follows: > > "The problem you encounter is coming from the fact that when your > sample data stops, the sample value drops suddenly from a non zero > value to zero value and apparently, the interpolation algorithm Roland > uses 'gasps' at this situation." > > Here's the URL: > http://gamelay.usami.com/~netboy/w30/sites/w30.msoft.it/w30faq.html#se > ctII > > > Hope this proves useful for other people who might encounter the same > problem at some point.. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Messenger > > - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! 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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sat May 8 10:23:20 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04383 for sgroup_site5-list; Sat, 8 May 2004 10:23:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 10:23:20 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405081423.KAA04383@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-m15.mx.aol.com (imo-m15.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.205]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04379 for ; Sat, 8 May 2004 10:23:18 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.d2.c20dc2b (4328) for ; Sat, 8 May 2004 10:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 10:22:44 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Glitches at the end of my samples.. Problem solved! To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1084026164" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5028 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1084026164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another quick solution is to let the sample go for longer than what you actually need. Now when you are sequencing just make sure that you hold the note down for only the time duration that the sample will be heard. The downside is that you will use up more memory. I think the W-30 only offers 28 seconds of sample time? I think the frequency need to be set lower to achieve the 28 seconds. Something like that. Dave >> Wow, good catch! I wish I'd have known about this while I was busy sampling in the '80s and '90s - I've got a few samples, especially drum samples, which have this 'click' at the end. Jesse kraftsman of music wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I came across an faq for the W30 that included a response to the same > problem I had and provides a number of solutions that can also be > applied for the S330/550 since they use very similar sampling hardware > as the W30. :-) > > According to the faq, the cause is as follows: > > "The problem you encounter is coming from the fact that when your > sample data stops, the sample value drops suddenly from a non zero > value to zero value and apparently, the interpolation algorithm Roland > uses 'gasps' at this situation." > > Here's the URL: > http://gamelay.usami.com/~netboy/w30/sites/w30.msoft.it/w30faq.html#se > ctII > > > Hope this proves useful for other people who might encounter the same > problem at some point.. << -------------------------------1084026164 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Another quick solution is to let the sample go for longer than what you= actually need. Now when you are sequencing just make sure that you hold the= note down for only the time duration that the sample will be heard.

The downside is that you will use up more memory. I think the W-30 only= offers 28 seconds of sample time? I think the frequency need to be set lowe= r to achieve the 28 seconds. Something like that.

Dave

>>
Wow, good catch! I wish I'd have known about this whi= le I was busy
sampling in the '80s and '90s - I've got a few samples, es= pecially drum
samples, which have this 'click' at the end.

Jesse<= BR>
kraftsman of music wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I= came across an faq for the W30 that included a response to the same
>= ; problem I had and provides a number of solutions that can also be
>= applied for the S330/550 since they use very similar sampling hardware
= > as the W30. :-)
>
> According to the faq, the cause is as f= ollows:
>
> "The problem you encounter is coming from the fact t= hat when your
> sample data stops, the sample value drops suddenly fr= om a non zero
> value to zero value and apparently, the interpolation= algorithm Roland
> uses 'gasps' at this situation."
>
>=20= Here's the URL:
> http://gamelay.usami.com/~netboy/w30/sites/w30.msoft= .it/w30faq.html#se
> <http://gamelay.usami.com/%7Enetboy/w30/sites= /w30.msoft.it/w30faq.html#sectII>ctII
>
>
> Hope this p= roves useful for other people who might encounter the same
> problem=20= at some point..
<<

-------------------------------1084026164-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sat May 8 17:43:43 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22915 for sgroup_site5-list; Sat, 8 May 2004 17:43:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 17:43:43 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405082143.RAA22915@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com (imo-m17.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.207]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22911 for ; Sat, 8 May 2004 17:43:42 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.15b.348cd528 (14374) for ; Sat, 8 May 2004 17:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15b.348cd528.2dceae6d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 17:43:09 EDT Subject: sgroup RGB Output problem To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1084052589" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5028 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1084052589 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So would anyone know why my Magnavox RGB Monitor 80 won't display the S-760 screen when I use the RGB Cable? I just get horizontal and vertical scrolling lines which I already tried to adjust. I don't see anything related in the menus. Thanks Dave -------------------------------1084052589 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

So would anyone know why my Magnavox RGB Monitor 80 won't display the S= -760 screen when I use the RGB Cable?

I just get horizontal and vertical scrolling lines which I already trie= d to adjust. I don't see anything related in the menus.

Thanks

Dave

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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun May 9 09:21:50 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30634 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 9 May 2004 09:21:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 09:21:50 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405091321.JAA30634@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from dhuumrelay0.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net (dhuumrelay0.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net [194.139.33.69]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA30630 for ; Sun, 9 May 2004 09:21:48 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust115.tnt2.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.26.115]) by dhuumrelay0.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i49DLGKA023973 for ; Sun, 9 May 2004 13:21:17 GMT X-Authenticated-As: none Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 15:21:09 +0200 Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Ingo Debus To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <4e.2b512069.2dcd36e7@aol.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Am Freitag, 07.05.04 um 21:00 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.com: > I did not see a TV system option in the menu when booting and holding=20= > mode button. > I just went through old messages in this list, and yes, there seem to=20 be S-760's out there that don't have this option. In the menu on my=20 S-760 it is item 5, just below "LCD contrast". Perhaps it's a firmware version thing. When I got my OP-760 expansion=20 board it came with an EPROM which had to be installed instead of the=20 original firmware EPROM in the S-760. > So would anyone know why my Magnavox RGB Monitor 80 won't display the=20= > S-760 screen when I=A0use the RGB Cable? > =A0 > I just get horizontal and vertical scrolling lines which I already=20 > tried to adjust. I don't see anything related in the menus. Could be various reasons. Different pinout of the plug (or adaptor),=20 defective monitor, defective video interface in the S-760, or the=20 monitor just is not suited for the horizontal/vertical frequencies of=20 the S-760. I once saw a RGB monitor with exactly the same jack as the RGB jack of=20= the S-760, but with completely different pinout. This of course did not=20= work with a 1:1 cable. Do you have any specs of the monitor or at least the pinout of the=20 jack/plug? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun May 9 16:04:41 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15187 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 9 May 2004 16:04:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:04:41 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405092004.QAA15187@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15183 for ; Sun, 9 May 2004 16:04:40 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.1f1.2011d132 (14374) for ; Sun, 9 May 2004 16:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1f1.2011d132.2dcfe8b7@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:04:07 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1084133047" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5028 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1084133047 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fair enough. I'll do a search for firmaware upgrade. If someone knows where to find it please let me know. But I have an SC1224 coming this week from a friend which I will try with a 13 Pin Din and RGB plug provided the right pins are used on them. I am curious to see what the SC1224 has to deliver as opposed to the other monitors. I heard they were the best ones to use. Worst, I'll just continue with the rca plug. It really don't look too bad on the old Mag. Thanks Dave >> Am Freitag, 07.05.04 um 21:00 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.com: > I did not see a TV system option in the menu when booting and holding > mode button. > I just went through old messages in this list, and yes, there seem to be S-760's out there that don't have this option. In the menu on my S-760 it is item 5, just below "LCD contrast". Perhaps it's a firmware version thing. When I got my OP-760 expansion board it came with an EPROM which had to be installed instead of the original firmware EPROM in the S-760. > So would anyone know why my Magnavox RGB Monitor 80 won't display the > S-760 screen when I use the RGB Cable? > > I just get horizontal and vertical scrolling lines which I already > tried to adjust. I don't see anything related in the menus. Could be various reasons. Different pinout of the plug (or adaptor), defective monitor, defective video interface in the S-760, or the monitor just is not suited for the horizontal/vertical frequencies of the S-760. I once saw a RGB monitor with exactly the same jack as the RGB jack of the S-760, but with completely different pinout. This of course did not work with a 1:1 cable. Do you have any specs of the monitor or at least the pinout of the jack/plug? Ingo << -------------------------------1084133047 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Fair enough. I'll do a search for firmaware upgrade. If someone knows w= here to find it please let me know.

But I have an SC1224 coming this week from a friend which I will try wi= th a 13 Pin Din and RGB plug provided the right pins are used on them.=20= I am curious to see what the SC1224 has to deliver as opposed to the other m= onitors. I heard they were the best ones to use.

Worst, I'll just continue with the rca plug. It really don't look too b= ad on the old Mag.

Thanks

Dave

>>

Am Freitag, 07.05.04 um 21:00 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.c= om:

> I did not see a TV system option in the menu when booting an= d holding
> mode button.
>

I just went through old messa= ges in this list, and yes, there seem to
be S-760's out there that don't= have this option. In the menu on my
S-760 it is item 5, just below "LCD= contrast".
Perhaps it's a firmware version thing. When I got my OP-760 e= xpansion
board it came with an EPROM which had to be installed instead o= f the
original firmware EPROM in the S-760.

> So would anyone=20= know why my Magnavox RGB Monitor 80 won't display the
> S-760 screen=20= when I use the RGB Cable?
>
> I just get horizontal=20= and vertical scrolling lines which I already
> tried to adjust. I don= 't see anything related in the menus.

Could be various reasons. Diffe= rent pinout of the plug (or adaptor),
defective monitor, defective video= interface in the S-760, or the
monitor just is not suited for the horiz= ontal/vertical frequencies of
the S-760.
I once saw a RGB monitor wit= h exactly the same jack as the RGB jack of
the S-760, but with completel= y different pinout. This of course did not
work with a 1:1 cable.
Do=20= you have any specs of the monitor or at least the pinout of the
jack/plu= g?

Ingo
<<

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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun May 9 16:36:56 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16544 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 9 May 2004 16:36:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 16:36:56 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405092036.QAA16544@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from web20901.mail.yahoo.com (web20901.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.223]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16540 for ; Sun, 9 May 2004 16:36:54 -0400 Message-ID: <20040509203641.28511.qmail@web20901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [69.164.178.189] by web20901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 May 2004 13:36:41 PDT Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 13:36:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Landay Subject: sgroup got any broken S760s? To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Does anyone have any broken S760s they'd like to sell for parts? I'm especially interested in getting the power supply board. -Steve Pittsburgh, Pa USA __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Mon May 10 02:48:42 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA09898 for sgroup_site5-list; Mon, 10 May 2004 02:48:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 02:48:42 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405100648.CAA09898@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (CPE000024c0194d-CM400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.162]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA09894 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 02:48:41 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i4A6mHCI081774 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 02:48:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@localhost.generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i4A6mHOD081773 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Mon, 10 May 2004 02:48:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.183]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA08561 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 02:17:33 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO mainpc.pacbell.net) (dbarton@pacbell.net@64.175.109.2 with login) by smtp804.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 May 2004 06:16:53 -0000 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20040509231103.02850240@pop.compuserve.com> X-Sender: skylab2000@pop.compuserve.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 23:11:51 -0700 To: Ingo Debus , sgroup@sgroup.ca From: dennis barton Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry In-Reply-To: References: <4e.2b512069.2dcd36e7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; At 5/9/2004 06:21 a, Ingo Debus wrote: >Am Freitag, 07.05.04 um 21:00 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.com: > >>I did not see a TV system option in the menu when booting and holding >>mode button. > >I just went through old messages in this list, and yes, there seem to be >S-760's out there that don't have this option. In the menu on my S-760 it >is item 5, just below "LCD contrast". The overseas PAL s760s have the TV system option for PAL or NTSC. The US (NTSC) s760 did not. |_e_/ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Mon May 10 22:10:08 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26678 for sgroup_site5-list; Mon, 10 May 2004 22:10:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:10:08 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405110210.WAA26678@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA26674 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 22:10:07 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.fb.5665a1e9 (3972) for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 22:09:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:09:37 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1084241377" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5028 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1084241377 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guess then we have to live with it. Thanks Dave >> At 5/9/2004 06:21 a, Ingo Debus wrote: >Am Freitag, 07.05.04 um 21:00 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.com: > >>I did not see a TV system option in the menu when booting and holding >>mode button. > >I just went through old messages in this list, and yes, there seem to be >S-760's out there that don't have this option. In the menu on my S-760 it >is item 5, just below "LCD contrast". The overseas PAL s760s have the TV system option for PAL or NTSC. The US (NTSC) s760 did not. |_e_/ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com << -------------------------------1084241377 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Guess then we have to live with it.

Thanks

Dave

>>
At 5/9/2004 06:21 a, Ingo Debus wrote:

>Am Fr= eitag, 07.05.04 um 21:00 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.com:
>
>>I d= id not see a TV system option in the menu when booting and holding
>&= gt;mode button.
>
>I just went through old messages in this list= , and yes, there seem to be
>S-760's out there that don't have this o= ption. In the menu on my S-760 it
>is item 5, just below "LCD contras= t".

The overseas PAL s760s have the TV system option for PAL or NTSC.=

The US (NTSC) s760 did not.

|_e_/   Dennis B= arton <db@skylab2000.com>
)   = skylab2000
~\/\    Brainforest Productions, Los A= ngeles
/    http://skylab2000.com <<

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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Mon May 10 23:34:59 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA30297 for sgroup_site5-list; Mon, 10 May 2004 23:34:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 23:34:59 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405110334.XAA30297@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (dsl-210-15-250-66.NSW.netspace.net.au [210.15.250.66]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA30293 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 23:34:56 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFCA56E02 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:34:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptraci [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10861-04 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:34:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from blurk (bmaier.internal.sensorynetworks.com [192.168.119.128]) by ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4779456D84 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:34:27 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:34:47 +1000 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry Message-ID: <41990000.1084246487@blurk> In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20040509231103.02850240@pop.compuserve.com> References: <4e.2b512069.2dcd36e7@aol.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20040509231103.02850240@pop.compuserve.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; dennis barton: > At 5/9/2004 06:21 a, Ingo Debus wrote: > > > I just went through old messages in this list, and yes, there seem to be > > S-760's out there that don't have this option. In the menu on my S-760 it > > is item 5, just below "LCD contrast". > > The overseas PAL s760s have the TV system option for PAL or NTSC. > > The US (NTSC) s760 did not. I couldn't find it on mine, either. It should be the overseas model, since I bought it in Australia, and we use the PAL system. I'm currently using an s-video cable to connect the video out, since I can do PIP with an LCD monitor. But, while the display is somewhat legible, the colours are all wrong and I get moving blocks across the display. Could very well be an NTSC vs PAL problem. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "If it's not on Google, it doesn't exist" - Fiona Walkerden - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue May 11 09:27:04 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23190 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 11 May 2004 09:27:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:27:04 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405111327.JAA23190@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23186 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 09:27:03 -0400 From: Tristar77@aol.com Received: from Tristar77@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.80.b844e13 (16781) for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 09:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <80.b844e13.2dd22e82@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 09:26:26 EDT Subject: sgroup Tracker Talk To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_80.b844e13.2dd22e82_boundary" X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10705 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; --part1_80.b844e13.2dd22e82_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to know more relative to Trackers Versus Samplers Any input here as to benefits of each will be welcomed. --part1_80.b844e13.2dd22e82_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need=20= to know more relative to Trackers Versus Samplers Any input here= as to benefits of each will be welcomed. --part1_80.b844e13.2dd22e82_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue May 11 15:43:07 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07095 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 11 May 2004 15:43:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:43:07 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405111943.PAA07095@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07091 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 15:43:05 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.1d5.20f31db3 (16781) for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 15:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1d5.20f31db3.2dd286a3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:42:27 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1084304547" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5028 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1084304547 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am beginning to believe that the SC1224 monitor won't work with my S-650 since I do not have the "TV System" option on my S760. Does this sound like a logical conclusion? I cannot test it unless I start cutting some wires and spending some money to get all the parts and I sure won't want to waste my time and money just to find out. Thanks Dave -------------------------------1084304547 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am beginning to believe that the SC1224 monitor won't work with=20= my S-650 since I do not have the "TV System" option on my S760. Does th= is sound like a logical conclusion?

I cannot test it unless I start cutting some wires and spending some mo= ney to get all the parts and I sure won't want to waste my time and money ju= st to find out.

Thanks

Dave

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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Tue May 11 23:40:43 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA27073 for sgroup_site5-list; Tue, 11 May 2004 23:40:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 23:40:43 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405120340.XAA27073@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (CPE000024c0194d-CM400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.162]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27069 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 23:40:41 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i4C3eBEG081668 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 23:40:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@localhost.generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i4C3eADt081667 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Tue, 11 May 2004 23:40:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.170.81]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA05827 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 02:42:37 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO mainpc.pacbell.net) (dbarton@pacbell.net@64.175.109.2 with login) by smtp811.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 May 2004 06:42:40 -0000 Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20040510220545.02650ec0@pop.compuserve.com> X-Sender: skylab2000@pop.compuserve.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.0.6 Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:07:08 -0700 To: Bernie Maier , sgroup@sgroup.ca From: dennis barton Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry In-Reply-To: <41990000.1084246487@blurk> References: <4e.2b512069.2dcd36e7@aol.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20040509231103.02850240@pop.compuserve.com> <41990000.1084246487@blurk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; >I couldn't find it on mine, either. It should be the overseas model, >since I bought it in Australia, and we use the PAL system. I'm >currently using an s-video cable to connect the video out, since I I have a 760 from Germany and it is pal/ntsc with that extra choice in the menu. My US bought 760's do not have it. I think was actually an op760-1 that had the PAL option. |_e_/ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed May 12 09:35:35 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA19716 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 12 May 2004 09:35:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:35:35 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405121335.JAA19716@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca (smtpgate-01.ic.gc.ca [192.197.186.122]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19712 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 09:35:33 -0400 From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca Received: by smtpgate-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 12 May 2004 09:32:53 -0400 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D06000000000007B93685@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> To: db@skylab2000.com, blurk@zip.com.au, sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:32:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; I looked in my OP-760-1 manual. It specifies an RGB display with 200 lines, or it says the image will not look right. The pinouts are also critical and the manual gives a diagram. Hope that helps. -----Original Message----- From: dennis barton [mailto:db@skylab2000.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:07 AM To: Bernie Maier; sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry >I couldn't find it on mine, either. It should be the overseas model, >since I bought it in Australia, and we use the PAL system. I'm >currently using an s-video cable to connect the video out, since I I have a 760 from Germany and it is pal/ntsc with that extra choice in the menu. My US bought 760's do not have it. I think was actually an op760-1 that had the PAL option. |_e_/ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed May 12 11:26:53 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24247 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:26:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:26:53 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405121526.LAA24247@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from dhuumrelay0.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net (dhuumrelay0.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net [194.139.33.69]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24243 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:26:51 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust29.tnt9.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.118.29]) by dhuumrelay0.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i4CFQKKA004663 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 15:26:21 GMT X-Authenticated-As: none Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 17:26:13 +0200 Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Ingo Debus To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <1d5.20f31db3.2dd286a3@aol.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Am Dienstag, 11.05.04 um 21:42 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.com: > I am beginning to believe that the SC1224 monitor=A0won't work with=20 > my=A0S-650 since I do not have the "TV System" option on my S760. Does=20= > this sound like a logical conclusion? > Not necessarily. The old little b/w tv I'm using works with both NTSC=20 and PAL. It requires a little tweaking on the knobs on its back when=20 switching tv system. The differences between NTSC and PAL are the horizontal and vertical=20 frequencies. There are other differences too, but these are not=20 important if the RGB output is used. Are there any specs of the SC1224=20= monitor available? The horizontal frequency of both systems is something between 15kHz and=20= 16kHz. The vertical frequencies are 50Hz for PAL and 60Hz for NTSC. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed May 12 11:35:37 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA24632 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:35:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:35:37 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405121535.LAA24632@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA24628 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:35:36 -0400 Received: from [192.168.167.42] (helo=wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BNvlS-0000Lb-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:35:22 -0400 Message-ID: <29265363.1084376122638.JavaMail.root@wamui04.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:35:22 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Jesse Segovia Reply-To: Jesse Segovia To: sgroup List Subject: sgroup Roland format Ilio sample CD for sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Telesis, the company that will repair S-760 LCD displays, has the ILIO CD KEYS TO THE CITY, a 2 disc set in Roland format, on sale for $80.00 (regular price $199.00). I don't know anything about the legality of this and I've never dealt with Telesis so I can't endorse this - I'm just passing on the info. Here's a link to the page describing the CD: http://www.ilio.com/ilio/keyscity/index.html# And here's the info on Telesis: TELESIS USED GEAR P.O. BOX 19015 - ANAHEIM HILLS, CA 92817 TEL.: (714)-998-3001 FAX: (714)-998-1817 Gear Website - http://www.telesisgear.com Backlight Website - http://backlights.telesisgear.com e-mail for any inquiry: telesis@telesisgear.com Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Wed May 12 21:28:49 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16479 for sgroup_site5-list; Wed, 12 May 2004 21:28:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:28:49 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405130128.VAA16479@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com (imo-m27.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.8]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA16475 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 21:28:47 -0400 From: DAJA300@aol.com Received: from DAJA300@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r1.3.) id 6.a1.47ce97af (4410) for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 21:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 21:28:18 EDT Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry To: sgroup@sgroup.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1084411698" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5028 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; -------------------------------1084411698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ingo The SC1224 will arrive on Friday. There is a JVC and Goldstar version so I need to wait and see which one is coming. I am thinking there might be slight differences between these two versions. Will let you know the specs over the weekend. I think I might have manuals for both as well. Will check that out too. Thanks Dave >>Am Dienstag, 11.05.04 um 21:42 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.com: > I am beginning to believe that the SC1224 monitor won't work with > my S-650 since I do not have the "TV System" option on my S760. Does > this sound like a logical conclusion? > Not necessarily. The old little b/w tv I'm using works with both NTSC and PAL. It requires a little tweaking on the knobs on its back when switching tv system. The differences between NTSC and PAL are the horizontal and vertical frequencies. There are other differences too, but these are not important if the RGB output is used. Are there any specs of the SC1224 monitor available? The horizontal frequency of both systems is something between 15kHz and 16kHz. The vertical frequencies are 50Hz for PAL and 60Hz for NTSC. Ingo<< -------------------------------1084411698 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ingo

The SC1224 will arrive on Friday. There is a JVC and Goldstar version s= o I need to wait and see which one is coming. I am thinking there might be s= light differences between these two versions. Will let you know the spe= cs over the weekend.

I think I might have manuals for both as well. Will check that out too.=

Thanks

Dave

>>Am Dienstag, 11.05.04 um 21:42 Uhr schrieb DAJA300@aol.com:
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> my S-650 since I do not have the "TV System" option on my=20= S760. Does
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monitor available?

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16kHz. The vertical frequencies are 50Hz f= or PAL and 60Hz for NTSC.

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From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu May 13 01:24:32 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA26240 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 13 May 2004 01:24:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 01:24:32 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405130524.BAA26240@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (CPE000024c0194d-CM400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.162]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA26236 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 01:24:31 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i4D5O2Ph052101 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 01:24:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@localhost.generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i4D5O2dX052100 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Thu, 13 May 2004 01:24:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (dsl-210-15-250-66.NSW.netspace.net.au [210.15.250.66]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17895 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 20:00:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0ED456DBC for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 10:00:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ptraci [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21884-09 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 10:00:10 +1000 (EST) Received: from blurk (bmaier.internal.sensorynetworks.com [192.168.119.128]) by ptraci.internal.sensorynetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BAC56D84 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 10:00:10 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 10:00:31 +1000 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Magnavox Monitor inquiry Message-ID: <47260000.1084320031@blurk> In-Reply-To: <1d5.20f31db3.2dd286a3@aol.com> References: <1d5.20f31db3.2dd286a3@aol.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; DAJA300@aol.com: > I am beginning to believe that the SC1224 monitor won't work with my S-650 > since I do not have the "TV System" option on my S760. Does this sound like > a logical conclusion? Well, depending on your assumptions it may be a logical conclusion, but I think it's still incorrect. :-) The "TV System" option is applicable to the composite and s-video outputs, but I gather the SC1224 is an RGB monitor, which is quite independent of the different colour-encoding systems for video signals. > I cannot test it unless I start cutting some wires and spending some money > to get all the parts and I sure won't want to waste my time and money just > to find out. Cheers, Bernie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "If it's not on Google, it doesn't exist" - Fiona Walkerden - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu May 13 13:29:55 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23852 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:29:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:29:55 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405131729.NAA23852@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23848 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:29:53 -0400 Received: from wamui02.slb.atl.earthlink.net ([192.168.167.40]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BOK1s-0001eV-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Thu, 13 May 2004 13:29:56 -0400 Message-ID: <31237008.1084469395634.JavaMail.root@wamui02.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 13:29:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jesse Segovia Reply-To: Jesse Segovia To: SGroup List Subject: sgroup it's Official - the S-760 Only Supports Akai S-1000 format Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; I suspected it by I got confirmation from Roland tech support today - the S-760 will not convert load CDs in Akai S-3000 or any other format except for S-1000. Too bad because Back In Time Records has just come out with Vol. 3 of their Korg Universe sample CD - Vols 1&2 are in S-1000 format but Vol. 3 is in S-3000. These CDs are fantastic - very nice samples of some of the best patches of many Korg synths, and very reasonably priced: http://backintimerecords.de/bitr014.htm Vol. 3 includes drums samples from Korg's very nice drum modules. Too bad I can't use it! Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Fri May 14 18:33:07 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA30711 for sgroup_site5-list; Fri, 14 May 2004 18:33:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 18:33:07 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405142233.SAA30711@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (CPE000024c0194d-CM400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.229.162]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA30707 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 18:33:04 -0400 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i4EMWTfX038414 for ; Fri, 14 May 2004 18:32:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens@localhost.generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id i4EMWTWa038413 for sgroup@www.sgroup.ca; Fri, 14 May 2004 18:32:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.228]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00683 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 17:16:57 -0400 Received: from cb56611-h.chickensys.com (c68.112.156.121.stc.mn.charter.com [68.112.156.121]) by mxsf28.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4DLE4oj018426 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 17:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040513155820.053cfba0@mail.chickensys.com> X-Sender: garth@mail.chickensys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 16:00:48 -0500 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca From: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: Re: sgroup it's Official - the S-760 Only Supports Akai S-1000 format In-Reply-To: <31237008.1084469395634.JavaMail.root@wamui02.slb.atl.earth link.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; At 01:29 PM 5/13/04 -0400, you wrote: >I suspected it by I got confirmation from Roland tech support today - the >S-760 will not convert load CDs in Akai S-3000 or any other format except >for S-1000. > >Too bad because Back In Time Records has just come out with Vol. 3 of >their Korg Universe sample CD - Vols 1&2 are in S-1000 format but Vol. 3 >is in S-3000. These CDs are fantastic - very nice samples of some of the >best patches of many Korg synths, and very reasonably priced: > >http://backintimerecords.de/bitr014.htm > >Vol. 3 includes drums samples from Korg's very nice drum modules. Too bad >I can't use it! Yet... I'm just finishing up including S-7x format inclusion in Translator, I spent last week going over more XV-5080 things and all of it is related (the XV practically uses the same format). It works tons better than Convert Load, at compensates for things that the Akai could overload the Roland on into a better scheme. I'll email when we've got it all ready, I hope first part of next week. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | Garth Hjelte | | Customer Service Representative, President | | Chicken Systems, Inc, Rubber Chicken Software Co. | | 714 5th Street SE | | Willmar, MN 56201 USA | | | | 800-8-PRO-EPS Toll Free Order Line (US Only) | | 320-235-9798 Tech Support, Sampler Questions | | International Line | | 360-838-7689 Fax | | Product Sales: sales@chickensys.com | | Product Support: support@chickensys.com | | Sampler Q+A: qa@chickensys.com | | Web Page: www.chickensys.com | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sat May 15 09:22:59 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02739 for sgroup_site5-list; Sat, 15 May 2004 09:22:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 09:22:59 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405151322.JAA02739@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from hnexfe08.hetnet.nl (hnexfe08.hetnet.nl [195.121.6.174]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02735 for ; Sat, 15 May 2004 09:22:58 -0400 Received: from p200mmx ([195.121.151.41]) by hnexfe08.hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 15 May 2004 15:22:26 +0200 Message-ID: <002901c43a80$c5c58e60$b1b5fea9@p200mmx> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: <1d5.20f31db3.2dd286a3@aol.com> <47260000.1084320031@blurk> Subject: [sgroup] Roland MS-1 memory card limits Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 15:29:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2004 13:22:27.0672 (UTC) FILETIME=[AAF5F580:01C43A7F] Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Hi all, Anybody here also using the Roland MS-1 phrase samplers ? If so, what are your experiences with: * the available sampling time after formatting ? I formatted a 64MB Compact Flasah card (using an adapter to PCMCIA) and didn't get the full expected sampling time (expecting something like 80 minutes, high-grade, mono, but got less than half) * the time it takes to format a memory card ? I did stop the formatting after 5 (!) hours, maybe it takes all day to reach the full capacity ? * anybody knows what the max. card sizes are ? Any differences perhaps when using CompactFlash with adapter instead of an 'original' PCMCIA ? Thanks, Peter - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun May 16 11:24:49 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02673 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:24:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:24:49 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405161524.LAA02673@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from ms-smtp-04-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-04-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.138]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02669 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:24:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (pow229152.columbus.rr.com [204.210.229.152]) by ms-smtp-04-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i4GFOibe007550; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:24:49 -0400 From: Gaffa Reply-To: Gaffa X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1174416114.20040516112449@columbus.rr.com> To: sgroup@sgroup.ca CC: "Rubber Chicken Software Co." Subject: Re[2]: sgroup it's Official - the S-760 Only Supports Akai S-1000 format In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20040513155820.053cfba0@mail.chickensys.com> References: <31237008.1084469395634.JavaMail.root@wamui02.slb.atl.earth link.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20040513155820.053cfba0@mail.chickensys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ;
So the S-7xx is not in Chickensys currently?
The website has S-7xx listed. I'm very anxious to expand my library for my S-750. Is the windows translation table an 'any to any' table. Any source will convert to any destination?

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RCSC> I'm just finishing up including S-7x format
RCSC> inclusion in Translator, I
RCSC> spent last week going over more XV-5080 things and all of it is related
RCSC> (the XV practically uses the same format).

RCSC> It works tons better than Convert Load, at
RCSC> compensates for things that the
RCSC> Akai could overload the Roland on into a better scheme.

RCSC> I'll email when we've got it all ready, I hope first part of next week.

RCSC> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
RCSC> | Garth Hjelte |
RCSC> | Customer Service Representative, President |
RCSC> | Chicken Systems, Inc, Rubber Chicken Software Co. |
RCSC> | 714 5th Street SE |
RCSC> | Willmar, MN 56201 USA |
RCSC> | |
RCSC> | 800-8-PRO-EPS Toll Free Order Line (US Only) |
RCSC> | 320-235-9798 Tech Support, Sampler Questions |
RCSC> | International Line |
RCSC> | 360-838-7689 Fax |
RCSC> | Product Sales: sales@chickensys.com |
RCSC> | Product Support: support@chickensys.com |
RCSC> | Sampler Q+A: qa@chickensys.com |
RCSC> | Web Page: www.chickensys.com |
RCSC> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun May 16 12:16:24 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04821 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 16 May 2004 12:16:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:16:24 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405161616.MAA04821@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04817 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 12:16:23 -0400 Received: from user-uinj36j.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.140.211] helo=mindspring.com) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BPOJ7-0004jn-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Sun, 16 May 2004 12:16:10 -0400 Message-ID: <40A793C5.9050308@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:16:05 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup List Subject: Re: sgroup it's Official - the S-760 Only Supports Akai S-1000 format References: <31237008.1084469395634.JavaMail.root@wamui02.slb.atl.earth link.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20040513155820.053cfba0@mail.chickensys.com> <1174416114.20040516112449@columbus.rr.com> In-Reply-To: <1174416114.20040516112449@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; I believe at this point S-7xx is only source for conversion to other formats. Jesse Gaffa wrote: > > So the S-7xx is not in Chickensys currently? > The website has S-7xx listed. I'm very anxious to expand my library > for my S-750. Is the windows translation table an 'any to any' table. > Any source will convert to any destination? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun May 16 12:25:49 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05216 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 16 May 2004 12:25:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 12:25:49 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405161625.MAA05216@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from mxsf18.cluster1.charter.net (mxsf18.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.218]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05211 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 12:25:48 -0400 Received: from cb56611-h.chickensys.com (c68.112.156.121.stc.mn.charter.com [68.112.156.121]) by mxsf18.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4GGNIPM044153 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 12:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20040516103620.02952100@mail.chickensys.com> X-Sender: garth@mail.chickensys.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 11:05:22 -0500 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca From: Garth Hjelte Subject: Re[2]: sgroup it's Official - the S-760 Only Supports Akai S-1000 format In-Reply-To: <1174416114.20040516112449@columbus.rr.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040513155820.053cfba0@mail.chickensys.com> <31237008.1084469395634.JavaMail.root@wamui02.slb.atl.earth link.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20040513155820.053cfba0@mail.chickensys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; At 11:24 AM 5/16/04 -0400, you wrote: >So the S-7xx is not in Chickensys currently? >The website has S-7xx listed. I'm very anxious to expand my library for >my S-750. Is the windows translation table an 'any to any' table. Any >source will convert to any destination? It's listed as a source, not as a destination. The pages are clear on that, unless I'm missing something. All we have to do is write the performance and patch portions of the code. It's directly based on the XV-5080 implementation (already fully tested), which uses the exact same Partial and Sample format and has the same Perf-Patch-Partial-Sample structure. I should also mention that we "emphasize" every sample just like the Roland does upon sampling, so things aren't dark-sounding. I just started that this morning. Garth Hjelte Sampler User - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun May 16 14:34:39 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10557 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 16 May 2004 14:34:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 14:34:39 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405161834.OAA10557@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02-smtplb.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.136]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10553 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 14:34:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (pow229152.columbus.rr.com [204.210.229.152]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.ohiordc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i4GIYcVI001672 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 14:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 14:34:44 -0400 From: Gaffa Reply-To: Gaffa X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <406895496.20040516143444@columbus.rr.com> To: sgroup@sgroup.ca Subject: Re[3]: sgroup it's Official - the S-760 Only Supports Akai S-1000 format In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20040516103620.02952100@mail.chickensys.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20040513155820.053cfba0@mail.chickensys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20040513155820.053cfba0@mail.chickensys.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20040516103620.02952100@mail.chickensys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Just an FYI, it's listed in the hardware source and hardware destination columns on this page....

http://www.chickensys.com/products/translator/translatorwinavailable.html

Sunday, May 16, 2004, 12:05:22 PM, you wrote:

GH> It's listed as a source, not as a destination. The pages are clear on that,
GH> unless I'm missing something. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Sun May 16 17:23:34 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17504 for sgroup_site5-list; Sun, 16 May 2004 17:23:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:23:34 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405162123.RAA17504@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from jhb-relay03.tiscali.co.za (jhb-relay03.tiscali.co.za [196.28.33.13]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17500 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 17:23:33 -0400 Received: from jhb-relay03.tiscali.co.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8042317548; Sun, 16 May 2004 23:23:24 +0200 (SAST) Received: from [196.28.47.16] (unknown [196.28.47.16]) by jhb-relay03.tiscali.co.za (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FF61715C; Sun, 16 May 2004 23:23:23 +0200 (SAST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@pop.tiscali.co.za Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20040516141035.1D125381E@mxvwall-03.tiscali.co.za> References: <20040516141035.1D125381E@mxvwall-03.tiscali.co.za> Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 23:23:12 +0200 To: sgroup@sgroup.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: sgroup Re: important information Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; >Please read the important document. > >+++ Attachment: No Virus found >+++ Kaspersky AntiVirus - www.kaspersky.com > > > >----------------- Tiscali Virus Warning ----------------- > >information.doc.pif is removed from here because it contains a virus. > >--------------------------------------------------------- My server found a virus in whatever was originally attached. Does someone here have a problem? Regards - Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Thu May 20 15:55:30 2004 Received: (from mail@localhost) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26283 for sgroup_site5-list; Thu, 20 May 2004 15:55:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:55:30 -0400 Resent-Message-Id: <200405201955.PAA26283@s1.syonex.com> X-Authentication-Warning: s1.syonex.com: mail set sender to owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca using -f Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by s1.syonex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26279 for ; Thu, 20 May 2004 15:55:28 -0400 Received: from user-uinj2u7.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.139.199] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1BQtdM-0001uW-00 for sgroup@sgroup.ca; Thu, 20 May 2004 15:55:16 -0400 Message-ID: <40AD0D1E.6000808@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 15:55:10 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SGroup List Subject: sgroup 'Anybody on the list have an A-80? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Precedence: bulk Resent-From: sgroup@www.sgroup.ca Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; Can anyone tell me how good the MIDI support on the A-80 is? Will it do everything a stand-alone MIDI patchbay will? I know it has two MIDI Ins and four MIDI outs - can I attach two computers to the Ins, my synth modules to the outs, and then switch between the two computers or merge the two computers on the Ins through the A-80? Thanks. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on sgroup.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@sgroup.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.