From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 2 23:25:55 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-6050>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:25:55 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193723-6049>; Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:25:49 -0500 Received: from epu (135.new-york-20rh15-16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net[12.75.156.135]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <20031103042545111007utfle>; Mon, 3 Nov 2003 04:25:46 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Foot In My Mouth! Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 23:25:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Greetings All, Last year I said some pretty harsh things about the Gigapack II 2 Sample CD Set from Best Service. I've recently got back into producing/writing a lot of synth based stuff. I reviewed this set again, and must say that I put my foot way down my throat. This is probably THE BEST collection of synths released for ANY sampler to date. It's diverse, comprehensive, and intelligently put together. The synth basses kick ass, the pads are okay, the acoutic bass sounds are on point. The synth leads scream, and the comp sounds totally rock. With that said, this CAN NOT be your only source of sounds, as most of the acoustic sounds aren't of stellar quality. I think that if you have a great synth (e.g. - Roland XP, JV whatever), and a good collection of Guitar and Drum multi-sample CDs, this 2 CD set from Best Service can really do it for you. You owe it to yourself to pick up one of these if you can. The $299 asking price is ridiculous, but if you come across a deal (say $89 or less), pick it up. Later, Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Nov 8 18:48:00 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193751-24330>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:47:59 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193682-24330>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:47:49 -0500 Received: from epu (243.new-york-02rh15rt.ca.dial-access.att.net[12.75.129.243]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110823474311100s5el4e>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:47:43 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Techinical/Upgrade Info Digest #1 (11/9/2003) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 18:47:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey All, I thought a lot about the proposal for paying someone(s) to write an update for the Roland S760s OS. I was thinking particularly about how easily a Roland S760 (circa 1992) can be easily integrated into a modern setup. Here are some of the reasons why: A: We have S-Video Outs. A lot of today's flat panel LCD Monitors come standard with S-Video In (No Modifications needed). B: SCSI. Yeah, this protocol is dated, but SO many large drives still use it, and it'll probably be used for some time. C: Zips can be fitted internally. USB Zips are out, so they'll be around for a while. D: The RC-100. Tuck your S760 in a rack, hook up an LCD Flat Screen and the RC100, and you have a "Gigastudio". I think I'd want to see support for large capacity drives at the top of an upgrade priority list. With drive prices dropping everyday, and units like the newer Roland XV5080 utilizing up to 30GB, the 600 MB Limit is real annoying if you have a million sample CDs or samples. It'd be nice to store everything in one place. The fact that we have a proprietary format doesn't bug me much, since programs like Chicken Sys Translator exist, and we have methods of importing image files to CDRs so we can burn our own Roland formatted CDs. Where do all of you stand on this issue. There still exists a large S7xx base out there who'd be willing to pay for upgrades. Then again, if Roland released their long awaited S960 Sampler, I'd scrap tihs and run out to but that. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Nov 8 23:01:58 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193751-24329>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:53 -0500 Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.226]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193682-24329>; Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:46 -0500 Received: from user-uinj4ck.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.145.148] helo=mindspring.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AIglg-0004Yy-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:01:40 -0500 Message-ID: <3FADBC31.4030707@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 23:01:53 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja, ko, zh-hk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Techinical/Upgrade Info Digest #1 (11/9/2003) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'd pay for an upgrade, depending on what it gave me. I still don't have a zip drive or hard disk attached since these days I'm mostly using samples straight off CD with little or no modifications. But then again I don't have any sort of backup for these CDs - once they go bad, that's it unless I buy them new. What have you heard about the S960? Jesse Harold Everton, Jr. wrote: >Where do all of you stand on this issue. There still exists a large S7xx >base out there who'd be willing to pay for upgrades. Then again, if Roland >released their long awaited S960 Sampler, I'd scrap tihs and run out to but >that. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 9 04:38:52 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193752-1387>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 04:38:46 -0500 Received: from ctb-mesg1.saix.net ([196.25.240.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193751-1387>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 04:38:39 -0500 Received: from [155.239.64.67] (rndf-ip-nas-1-p67.telkom-ipnet.co.za [155.239.64.67]) by ctb-mesg1.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7672C7EB8 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:38:25 +0200 (SAST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@196.41.128.80 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3FADBC31.4030707@mindspring.com> References: <3FADBC31.4030707@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 04:38:19 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup Techinical/Upgrade Info Digest #1 (11/9/2003) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I'd pay for an upgrade, depending on what it gave me. I still don't >have a zip drive or hard disk attached since these days I'm mostly >using samples straight off CD with little or no modifications. But >then again I don't have any sort of backup for these CDs - once they >go bad, that's it unless I buy them new. Jesse, You can make backup copies of your Roland CD's. On Mac, use Toast to make a "device copy" of your CD, then either store it as a disk image, or write to another CD. I backup all my CD's as soon as I buy them I can't help with PC, but I imagine there's a similar solution. Regards - Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 9 11:37:39 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193723-1386>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:37:30 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193686-1386>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:37:20 -0500 Received: from epu (unknown[12.75.159.49]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2003110916371611100s5eg0e>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 16:37:17 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: RE: sgroup Techinical/Upgrade Info Digest #1 (11/9/2003) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:37:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Greetings, If you have a PC, the equivalent to TOAST is ADAPTEC EZ CD CREATOR, or NERO BURNING ROM. There are other CD burning programs out there, but I blieve the ones that I just mentioned are the most popular. All you need to do is copy your CDs. This maybe illegal, but as soon as I get my Sample CDs, I copy them and store the originals in a safe place (a security box). I'm sorry, but after you spend $299 on a CD, the last thing I'm gonna want to deal with is a scratch or some oher thing that force me to call them again and deal with shipping, or lose a title all together (in the case that a company goes out of business). Back to the upgrade thing, the S960 was a rumor back in 2000 right before Roland released their XV5080, but everyone was talking about some kind of new "Super Sampler". Later, Harold -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 6:48 PM To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Techinical/Upgrade Info Digest #1 (11/9/2003) Hey All, I thought a lot about the proposal for paying someone(s) to write an update for the Roland S760s OS. I was thinking particularly about how easily a Roland S760 (circa 1992) can be easily integrated into a modern setup. Here are some of the reasons why: A: We have S-Video Outs. A lot of today's flat panel LCD Monitors come standard with S-Video In (No Modifications needed). B: SCSI. Yeah, this protocol is dated, but SO many large drives still use it, and it'll probably be used for some time. C: Zips can be fitted internally. USB Zips are out, so they'll be around for a while. D: The RC-100. Tuck your S760 in a rack, hook up an LCD Flat Screen and the RC100, and you have a "Gigastudio". I think I'd want to see support for large capacity drives at the top of an upgrade priority list. With drive prices dropping everyday, and units like the newer Roland XV5080 utilizing up to 30GB, the 600 MB Limit is real annoying if you have a million sample CDs or samples. It'd be nice to store everything in one place. The fact that we have a proprietary format doesn't bug me much, since programs like Chicken Sys Translator exist, and we have methods of importing image files to CDRs so we can burn our own Roland formatted CDs. Where do all of you stand on this issue. There still exists a large S7xx base out there who'd be willing to pay for upgrades. Then again, if Roland released their long awaited S960 Sampler, I'd scrap tihs and run out to but that. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 9 11:59:44 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193751-1386>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:59:31 -0500 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193723-1386>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:59:21 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust70.tnt1.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.24.70]) by bird2.de.uu.net (8.9.3p2/5.5.5) with ESMTP id RAA24558 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:59:18 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 11:59:20 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Techinical/Upgrade Info Digest #1 (11/9/2003) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Ingo Debus To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <0FB80420-12D6-11D8-BEBB-000A9571C136@cityweb.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Am Sonntag, 09.11.03 um 00:47 Uhr schrieb Harold Everton, Jr.: > With drive prices dropping everyday, and units like > the newer Roland XV5080 utilizing up to 30GB, the 600 MB Limit is real > annoying if you have a million sample CDs or samples. It'd be nice to > store > everything in one place. With such large media, it might become a problem that each sample name/partial name/patch name etc. has to be unique (i.e. you can't have two different samples that are both named DRM:SNARE1 on one disk). I think we would need a different file organisation scheme then. It might also become a problem that the number of samples and partials on one media is limited too. I already ran into that problem when converting an Akai CD-ROM. The many partials the convert load routine created didn't fit onto one CD-ROM, although there was still plenty room for sample data. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 9 12:19:00 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193751-1387>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:18:50 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193686-1387>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:18:44 -0500 Received: from epu (unknown[12.75.159.49]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <200311091718391130085feae>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:18:40 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: RE: sgroup Techinical/Upgrade Info Digest #1 (11/9/2003) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 12:18:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <0FB80420-12D6-11D8-BEBB-000A9571C136@cityweb.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Ingo, Why would this become a problem? The S760 checks the drive to see if you have a file with the same name already. It'll ask you if you want to rename it or overwrite it. To use larger drives wouldn't necesarily suggest that we'd have to change the file management scheme at all. Although, we'd have to get creative with naming our samples. Just look at any roland L-CD 600MB disk with thousands of differently named samples. After all, we're talking about DRIVE data, and not Memory Expansion which will stay at 32MB. In addition to upping the 600MB limit, the 8192 partial limit would also have to be raised, but this would be the max, and 32MB of whatever (32 Vol, 64 Perf, 128 Patch, 255 paritials, etc) wouldn't be affected. Later, Harold -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Ingo Debus Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 11:59 AM To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Techinical/Upgrade Info Digest #1 (11/9/2003) Am Sonntag, 09.11.03 um 00:47 Uhr schrieb Harold Everton, Jr.: > With drive prices dropping everyday, and units like > the newer Roland XV5080 utilizing up to 30GB, the 600 MB Limit is real > annoying if you have a million sample CDs or samples. It'd be nice to > store > everything in one place. With such large media, it might become a problem that each sample name/partial name/patch name etc. has to be unique (i.e. you can't have two different samples that are both named DRM:SNARE1 on one disk). I think we would need a different file organisation scheme then. It might also become a problem that the number of samples and partials on one media is limited too. I already ran into that problem when converting an Akai CD-ROM. The many partials the convert load routine created didn't fit onto one CD-ROM, although there was still plenty room for sample data. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 9 18:40:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193751-1386>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:40:52 -0500 Received: from mail45.fg.online.no (mail45-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.45]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193728-1387>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:40:38 -0500 Received: from node422 (062016208119.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.208.119]) by mail45.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA26167 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 00:40:35 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <000d01c3a71a$f52ab170$77d0103e@node422> From: "Eirik Krogstad" To: Subject: sgroup zip drive with s-760 sampler Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:41:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello, I've recently aquired a Roland S-760 sampler, which I am very happy with. The one problem I have though, is with storage. I got a giant, heavy, noisy SCSI bay module containing a cd-rom (which i absolutely do not want to use outside the home studio, it seems damn near the size and weight of the sampler, having compact and portable gear is important to me), and a largeish but more compact SCSI 540 mb harddrive. 540 mb is a bit short of what i need, so I'm considering a zip drive or similar removable media, where I can fill one or more disks/tapes/whatever with one category of sounds, and the drive could be reasonably compact. However, I have no idea how something like this would work, I have no experience whatsoever with tape media, zip disks or anything like it. Could a zip drive function essentially like a hard disk, could I write to them directly from the S-760, or would I need to copy an image of eg. the harddrive onto it? Are they slow to access (for reading)? What is the difference between different formats/media (Zip, Jaz, DAT tape, etc.)? Which is best for use with a sampler? Which is faster? (the S-760 can only access the first 600 mb of any media, so it doesn't need to be larger, 120 mb or more would do fine) Any experiences with any sampler and zip/tape/whatever media are welcome. Thanks for your help. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 9 18:57:56 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193751-1386>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:57:44 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (askuse.ody.ca [216.240.7.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193728-1386>; Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:57:41 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by [192.168.1.3] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 3.0.2); 09-Nov-2003 18:57:15 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 18:57:13 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup zip drive with s-760 sampler From: Dr Raven To: S Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000d01c3a71a$f52ab170$77d0103e@node422> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On 11/9/03 6:41 PM, "Eirik Krogstad" wrote: > Could a zip drive function essentially like a hard disk, could I write to them > directly from the S-760, or would I need to copy an image of eg. the harddrive > onto it? My experience with external storage is with my S-750 but it should work the same with an S-760. I've had an external SCSI Zip drive connected to my S-750 (and an *internal* zip drive but it was a mod that didn't quite last), and while the zip drive worked fine and was much faster than floppies, I wouldn't trust a zip disk as a reliable method to store my samples. If you want to go with a zip disk then be sure to make duplicates of each disk. With the S-750 I just connected the SCSI drive, powered the drive and the sampler up, booted from the system floppy, then formatted the zip using the Disk Tools, and then copied the System to it using the Disk Tools again, and I was ready to start making samples and saving them. Pretty straight-forward. > Are they slow to access (for reading)? Floppies are slowest, then CD-ROMs, then zips, then Jaz, then Magneto-Optical drives, then hard drives. I lucked out and found an old SCSI Syquest 135 MO drive that had 50 blank cartridges with it. Nice and fast, lots of storage and more reliable than zip disks. MO drives are great if you can find one (eBay???). > What is the difference between different formats/media (Zip, Jaz, DAT tape, > etc.)? Which is best for use with a sampler? Which is faster? (the S-760 can > only access the first 600 mb of any media, so it doesn't need to be larger, > 120 > mb or more would do fine) See above for differences in drives and speed. I believe the S-760 uses a SCSI interface for the HDD so find someone who is really into Macs and an old SCSI hard drive won't be too hard to locate. Or, try looking on eBay for an old 100 MB SCSI External Zip drive if you just want to get something better than the floppies. I can't remember if the S-760 has room for an internal hard drive or not. If it does then that's the way to go to reduce "desk clutter". Again, find a Mac guru and an old SCSI drive will do the trick. But always remember to backup no matter what storage format you decide to use. Anybody else please feel free to correct me if any of the above is wrong :) Andy Skuse -- Raven's Garage www.ravensgarage.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 10 03:06:12 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193729-5044>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:06:04 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193705-5043>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:05:51 -0500 Received: from epu (101.new-york-20rh15-16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net[12.75.156.101]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2003111008054511100rm0qme>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:05:45 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: RE: sgroup zip drive with s-760 sampler Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:05:44 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000d01c3a71a$f52ab170$77d0103e@node422> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey, Go for the Zip - They're used everywhere, come in different storage capacity (all within the realm of S760 address space), and are cheap enough that you could buy one SCSI version for your S760 and a USB or Parallel version for your PC for backup purposes and CDR Burning capability. If your Zip Drive breaks, buy another one (doubt that would happen). Try finding one of those almost impossible to find, outdated and less supported MO or other SCSI drives. They may be cheap on eBay, but it'd be smart (IMO) to get something with the most support and flexibility possible. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 10 03:31:03 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193729-5044>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:30:53 -0500 Received: from hnexfe06.hetnet.nl ([195.121.6.172]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193705-5044>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:30:47 -0500 Received: from HNEXVS05.HETNET.LOCAL ([10.94.9.20]) by hnexfe06.hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:30:44 +0100 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6473.0 Subject: RE: sgroup zip drive with s-760 sampler Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:30:21 -0500 Message-ID: <978968C03EC66D4EBB89BA4BD4486BA8DF17AB@HNEXVS05.HETNET.LOCAL> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup zip drive with s-760 sampler Thread-Index: AcOnYYpWGXwQhGKTRKyJ3Oh40EdVkgAAyTAu From: "Peter.Vermeeren" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Nov 2003 08:30:44.0876 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF3BFCC0:01C3A764] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk SSBhZ3JlZSwgWmlwcyBhcmUgY29udmVuaWVudC4gQnV0IHVzZSB0aGUgQ2xpY2tPZkRlYXRoIHRv b2wgLSBkb24ndCBnZXQgYWxhcm1lZCwganVzdCB1c2UgaXQgdG8gdGVzdCB0aGUgc3R1cmR5bmVz cy9pbnRlZ3JpdHkgb2YgeW91ciBjYXJ0cmlkZ2VzIG5vdyAmIHRoZW4uIEkgdGhvdWdodCBpdCB3 YXMgYXQgd3d3LmdyYy5jb20NCiANCiANClBldGVyDQoNCgktLS0tLU9vcnNwcm9ua2VsaWprIGJl cmljaHQtLS0tLSANCglWYW46IG93bmVyLXNncm91cEBsaXN0cy51dW5ldC5jYSBuYW1lbnMgSGFy b2xkIEV2ZXJ0b24sIEpyLiANCglWZXJ6b25kZW46IG1hIDEwLTExLTIwMDMgOTowNSANCglBYW46 IHNncm91cEBsaXN0cy51dW5ldC5jYSANCglDQzogDQoJT25kZXJ3ZXJwOiBSRTogc2dyb3VwIHpp cCBkcml2ZSB3aXRoIHMtNzYwIHNhbXBsZXINCgkNCgkNCg0KCUhleSwNCgkNCglHbyBmb3IgdGhl IFppcCAtIFRoZXkncmUgdXNlZCBldmVyeXdoZXJlLCBjb21lIGluIGRpZmZlcmVudCBzdG9yYWdl IGNhcGFjaXR5DQoJKGFsbCB3aXRoaW4gdGhlIHJlYWxtIG9mIFM3NjAgYWRkcmVzcyBzcGFjZSks IGFuZCBhcmUgY2hlYXAgZW5vdWdoIHRoYXQgeW91DQoJY291bGQgYnV5IG9uZSBTQ1NJIHZlcnNp b24gZm9yIHlvdXIgUzc2MCBhbmQgYSBVU0Igb3IgUGFyYWxsZWwgdmVyc2lvbiBmb3INCgl5b3Vy IFBDIGZvciBiYWNrdXAgcHVycG9zZXMgYW5kIENEUiBCdXJuaW5nIGNhcGFiaWxpdHkuDQoJDQoJ SWYgeW91ciBaaXAgRHJpdmUgYnJlYWtzLCBidXkgYW5vdGhlciBvbmUgKGRvdWJ0IHRoYXQgd291 bGQgaGFwcGVuKS4gVHJ5DQoJZmluZGluZyBvbmUgb2YgdGhvc2UgYWxtb3N0IGltcG9zc2libGUg dG8gZmluZCwgb3V0ZGF0ZWQgYW5kIGxlc3Mgc3VwcG9ydGVkDQoJTU8gb3Igb3RoZXIgU0NTSSBk cml2ZXMuIFRoZXkgbWF5IGJlIGNoZWFwIG9uIGVCYXksIGJ1dCBpdCdkIGJlIHNtYXJ0IChJTU8p DQoJdG8gZ2V0IHNvbWV0aGluZyB3aXRoIHRoZSBtb3N0IHN1cHBvcnQgYW5kIGZsZXhpYmlsaXR5 IHBvc3NpYmxlLg0KCQ0KCQ0KCQ0KCS0NCglTZW50IGJ5IHRoZSBzZ3JvdXAgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0 IG9uIGxpc3RzLnV1bmV0LmNhDQoJRm9yIHN1YnNjcmlwdGlvbiBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiwgc2VuZCBt YWlsIHRvIG1ham9yZG9tb0BsaXN0cy51dW5ldC5jYQ0KCWFuZCBzZWUgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5nZW5l cmFsY29uY2VwdHMuY29tL3Nncm91cC8gZm9yIG1vcmUgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24uDQoJDQoJDQoNCg== - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 10 10:50:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193752-5044>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:50:27 -0500 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193732-5044>; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:50:24 -0500 Received: from cityweb.de (1Cust20.tnt2.laf1.deu.da.uu.net [149.225.26.20]) by bird2.de.uu.net (8.9.3p2/5.5.5) with ESMTP id QAA09124 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:50:20 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 10:50:21 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Techinical/Upgrade Info Digest #1 (11/9/2003) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) From: Ingo Debus To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <973E23C2-1395-11D8-9FFD-000A9571C136@cityweb.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Am Sonntag, 09.11.03 um 18:18 Uhr schrieb Harold Everton, Jr.: > Why would this become a problem? The S760 checks the drive to see if > you > have a file with the same name already. It'll ask you if you want to > rename > it or overwrite it. Yes, sure. My thinking was, when you merge several CD-ROM on one HD, you would be renaming samples etc. all the time. Not very convenient. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Nov 13 03:24:02 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193747-4015>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:23:57 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.228.126]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193745-4016>; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:23:47 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAD8NfT1047136 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:23:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens@localhost.generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id hAD8NaNF047135 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:23:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from hotmail.com (bay9-f48.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193753-10750>; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:06:51 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:06:47 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.108 by by9fd.bay9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Nov 2003 22:06:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.108] X-Originating-Email: [gtrplaya@hotmail.com] From: "Six Stringa" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup WTB: OP-760-1 expansion board Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:06:47 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2003 22:06:47.0830 (UTC) FILETIME=[44415B60:01C3A969] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Looking for an OP-760-1 expansion board...Anyone know where I could get one? Thanks, Doug _________________________________________________________________ From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Nov 15 17:12:32 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193727-19013>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:12:22 -0500 Received: from mail45.fg.online.no (mail45-s.fg.online.no [148.122.161.45]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193693-19012>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:12:18 -0500 Received: from node422 (062016209074.customer.alfanett.no [62.16.209.74]) by mail45.fg.online.no (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA19941 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:12:12 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <008001c3abc5$8c2f6850$4ad1103e@node422> From: "Eirik Krogstad" To: Subject: sgroup missing lines in s760 display Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:12:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi all, I have a small but annoying problem. The display on my S-760 sampler was missing a horizontal line when I got it. Now another line has gone blank, it reappeared for a while, then disappeared again. Does anyone know what causes this, will I need to replace the entire display eventually, or are there other components that can be replaced to fix it? Thanks in advance. Eirik - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Nov 15 21:21:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193729-19012>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:20:55 -0500 Received: from cmsrelay01.mx.net ([165.212.11.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193728-19013>; Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:20:45 -0500 Received: from uadvg131.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.131) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 16 Nov 2003 02:20:44 -0000 Received: from [192.168.2.206] [208.138.28.138] by uadvg131.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/rsp@richardsven.com) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.11E) with ESMTP id 166HkPcuQ0362M31; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 02:20:42 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 208.138.28.138 AUTH rsp@richardsven.com [192.168.2.206] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <008001c3abc5$8c2f6850$4ad1103e@node422> References: <008001c3abc5$8c2f6850$4ad1103e@node422> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:20:38 -0500 To: "Eirik Krogstad" , From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup missing lines in s760 display Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 5:12 PM -0500 15/11/03, Eirik Krogstad wrote: >Hi all, >I have a small but annoying problem. >The display on my S-760 sampler was missing a horizontal line when I >got it. Now >another line has gone blank, it reappeared for a while, then >disappeared again. >Does anyone know what causes this, will I need to replace the entire display >eventually, or are there other components that can be replaced to fix it? >Thanks in advance. >Eirik > as they say it is the beginning of the end. yes you will need to eventually change the display. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 876-925-1247 (fax) "to fight for truth, justice and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 16 09:30:13 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193734-7748>; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:30:04 -0500 Received: from out002.verizon.net (out002pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.141]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193699-7748>; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:29:54 -0500 Received: from Laptop ([141.158.116.229]) by out002.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.33 201-253-122-126-133-20030313) with ESMTP id <20031116142952.HIPV6745.out002.verizon.net@Laptop> for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:29:52 -0600 Reply-To: From: "Richard Earnhardt" To: Subject: FW: sgroup missing lines in s760 display Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 09:29:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Disposition-Notification-To: "Richard Earnhardt" X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out002.verizon.net from [141.158.116.229] at Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:29:52 -0600 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Same thing happened to me in my MC500 - It froze sitting out in the van - I tried everything, even renaming the files so that I could see the only letters that would display! I could not get around replacing the display, and if memory serves me, it wasn't very expensive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Richard Sven Patterson Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 9:21 PM To: Eirik Krogstad; sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup missing lines in s760 display At 5:12 PM -0500 15/11/03, Eirik Krogstad wrote: >Hi all, >I have a small but annoying problem. >The display on my S-760 sampler was missing a horizontal line when I >got it. Now >another line has gone blank, it reappeared for a while, then >disappeared again. >Does anyone know what causes this, will I need to replace the entire display >eventually, or are there other components that can be replaced to fix it? >Thanks in advance. >Eirik > as they say it is the beginning of the end. yes you will need to eventually change the display. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 876-925-1247 (fax) "to fight for truth, justice and the analytical way" - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 16 22:13:43 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193734-7749>; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:13:38 -0500 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193697-7749>; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:13:28 -0500 Received: from Emailit2@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id 6.1e1.138a9b7a (2168) for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:13:24 -0500 (EST) From: Emailit2@aol.com Message-ID: <1e1.138a9b7a.2ce996d3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 22:13:23 -0500 Subject: sgroup S-550 and S-750 compatibility, and upgrading questions To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1069038803" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5100 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk -------------------------------1069038803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Does anyone know if S-550 sample disks are compatible with the S-750? Is any later model sampler compatible with S-550 disks? The reason I ask is, I have over 400 sample disks, and Im looking to upgrade to a better Roland sampler, any suggestions? Thanks Dave -------------------------------1069038803 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
Does anyone know if S-550 sample disks are compatible with the S-750?
 
Is any later model sampler compatible with S-550 disks?
 
The reason I ask is, I have over 400 sample disks, and Im looking to up= grade to a better Roland sampler, any suggestions? 
 
Thanks
Dave
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From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 17 09:18:09 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193703-28107>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:18:03 -0500 Received: from ctb-mesg1.saix.net ([196.25.240.73]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193702-28108>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:17:48 -0500 Received: from [155.239.65.215] (rndf-ip-nas-1-p471.telkom-ipnet.co.za [155.239.65.215]) by ctb-mesg1.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E929A520A for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 16:17:41 +0200 (SAST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@196.41.128.80 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1e1.138a9b7a.2ce996d3@aol.com> References: <1e1.138a9b7a.2ce996d3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 09:17:21 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup S-550 and S-750 compatibility, and upgrading questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Does anyone know if S-550 sample disks are compatible with the S-750? > >Is any later model sampler compatible with S-550 disks? > >The reason I ask is, I have over 400 sample disks, and Im looking to >upgrade to a better Roland sampler, any suggestions? I have the S760 and it will Convert-Load S550 disks. You can then re-save to Zip or another medium for faster loading etc. I'm not sure about the S750... Regards - Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 17 18:30:39 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193703-28108>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:30:32 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (askuse.ody.ca [216.240.7.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193702-28108>; Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:30:22 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by [192.168.1.3] with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 3.0.2); 17-Nov-2003 18:29:50 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:29:48 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup S-550 and S-750 compatibility, and upgrading questions From: Dr Raven To: S Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On 11/17/03 9:17 AM, "Colin Shapiro" wrote: >> Does anyone know if S-550 sample disks are compatible with the S-750? >> >> Is any later model sampler compatible with S-550 disks? >> >> The reason I ask is, I have over 400 sample disks, and Im looking to >> upgrade to a better Roland sampler, any suggestions? > > I have the S760 and it will Convert-Load S550 disks. You can then > re-save to Zip or another medium for faster loading etc. > I'm not sure about the S750... Yep, same thing for the S-750. Uses the convert load function. Dr Raven -- Raven's Garage www.ravensgarage.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Nov 18 14:02:22 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193724-27301>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:02:16 -0500 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193707-27301>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:02:10 -0500 Received: from user-uinj4a9.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.145.73] helo=mindspring.com) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AMB5m-0004dx-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:00:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3FBA6C73.6080609@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:01:07 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja, ko, zh-hk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Backlights Fixed and Replaced Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is part of a newsletter I've subscribed to. They sell used gear and they sell backlights for musical gear as well as do repairs. This is for the nenefit of those who've noted their displays are failing or about to. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: TELESIS Used Gear & Backlights - Latest Gear List - 11-18-03 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:23:08 -0800 From: Telesis To: jsegovia@mindspring.com WE FIX THE BACKLIGHTS ON MANY KORG, ROLAND, YAMAHA AND OTHER KYBDS, SOUND MODULES, AND OTHER GEAR WITH BACKLIT DISPLAYS AT A FRACTION OF THE COST OF A NEW DISPLAY. If you are capable of removing the display from the unit, you can decide which option below suits you. Otherwise you can take your unit to a service tech and they can take care of the removal and installation for you. We now sell just the backlight. If you are able to remove the backlight panel from the display, small panels are $34.00 plus S&H and large panels are $38.00 plus S&H. 1.Send just the display and repair is $49.00 plus S&H (small display) 2.Send just the display and repair is $53.00 plus S&H (large display) 3.Send a sound module and the repair is $79.00-$83.00 plus S&H 4.Send the whole keybd. and the repair is $169.00-$173.00 plus S&H Small display examples: Roland D-550, MC-500, Lexicon MRC Large display examples: Korg 01RW, Roland D-70, Yamaha TG-77 We can now supply brand new displays for many Korg, Roland, Yamaha, & Alesis instruments as well as for other manufacturers instruments. New displays start at $75.00 plus S&H with the inclusion of the old display. UPS Groundtrac freight in the continental US from our facility to you: $3.00 (backlight) $10.00 (display) - $15.00 (module) - $39.00 (kybds) TELESIS USED GEAR P.O. 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From owner-sgroup Tue Nov 18 15:09:03 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-27300>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:08:56 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.228.126]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193724-27300>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:08:50 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAIK8m5B007667 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:08:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens@localhost.generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id hAIK8mgO007666 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:08:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.161]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193737-7749>; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:18:54 -0500 Received: from ParistsCP@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id 6.19a.1d1d8e47 (14374) for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:18:45 -0500 (EST) From: ParistsCP@aol.com Message-ID: <19a.1d1d8e47.2ce88ce5@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 03:18:45 -0500 Subject: sgroup RC-100 problems To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_19a.1d1d8e47.2ce88ce5_boundary" X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6024 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --part1_19a.1d1d8e47.2ce88ce5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got an S-330 a few months ago, and have used it to some extent with just the CRT. I finally found a used RC-100 but when I plugged it in, it didn't work. Some of the lights come on sometimes, all of them once in a while. The only button which seems to do anything is reset, which wil only chang the lights. Sometimes it just makes them go out. Has anyone ese had a problem like this? I don't know if it may just be the sampler itself. I also picked up an MSX mouse, but it only partially works. The buttons work but I can't get it to move on screen. Any advice would be appreciated! --part1_19a.1d1d8e47.2ce88ce5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got an S-330 a few months ago, and have used it to s= ome extent with just the CRT. I finally found a used RC-100 but when I plugg= ed it in, it didn't work. Some of the lights come on sometimes, all of them=20= once in a while. The only button which seems to do anything is reset, which=20= wil only chang the lights. Sometimes it just makes them go out. Has anyone e= se had a problem like this? I don't know if it may just be the sampler itsel= f. I also picked up an MSX mouse, but it only partially works. The buttons w= ork but I can't get it to move on screen. Any advice would be appreciated! <= /FONT> --part1_19a.1d1d8e47.2ce88ce5_boundary-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Nov 18 16:33:28 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-27300>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:33:20 -0500 Received: from cmsrelay01.mx.net ([165.212.11.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193724-27300>; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:33:14 -0500 Received: from cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.138) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 18 Nov 2003 21:33:09 -0000 Received: from [192.168.2.206] [208.131.190.100] by cmsapps02.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/rsp@richardsven.com) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.11E) with ESMTP id 908HkRVhg0435M38; Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:33:06 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 208.131.190.100 AUTH rsp@richardsven.com [192.168.2.206] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19a.1d1d8e47.2ce88ce5@aol.com> References: <19a.1d1d8e47.2ce88ce5@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:33:00 -0500 To: ParistsCP@aol.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup RC-100 problems Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1142931310==_ma============" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --============_-1142931310==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 3:18 AM -0500 16/11/03, ParistsCP@aol.com wrote: >I got an S-330 a few months ago, and have used it to some extent >with just the CRT. I finally found a used RC-100 but when I plugged >it in, it didn't work. Some of the lights come on sometimes, all of >them once in a while. The only button which seems to do anything is >reset, which wil only chang the lights. Sometimes it just makes them >go out. Has anyone ese had a problem like this? I don't know if it >may just be the sampler itself. I also picked up an MSX mouse, but >it only partially works. The buttons work but I can't get it to move >on screen. Any advice would be appreciated! after hitting reset did you try the buttons again? rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 876-925-1247 (fax) "to fight for truth, justice and the analytical way" --============_-1142931310==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: sgroup RC-100 problems
At 3:18 AM -0500 16/11/03, ParistsCP@aol.com wrote:
I got an S-330 a few months ago, and have used it to some extent with just the CRT. I finally found a used RC-100 but when I plugged it in, it didn't work. Some of the lights come on sometimes, all of them once in a while. The only button which seems to do anything is reset, which wil only chang the lights. Sometimes it just makes them go out. Has anyone ese had a problem like this? I don't know if it may just be the sampler itself. I also picked up an MSX mouse, but it only partially works. The buttons work but I can't get it to move on screen. Any advice would be appreciated!

after hitting reset did you try the buttons again?
rsp
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From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 19 03:45:54 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193734-27580>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:45:50 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193726-27580>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:45:39 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at [148.198.9.36]) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.10) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:45:28 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.115]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:45:28 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: sgroup RC-100 problems Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 03:45:28 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB227601014D99@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: sgroup RC-100 problems Thread-Index: AcOuD9mbWprSqrWCT3yQ1YMTynJ3cQAaasvg From: "Ullrich Peter" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2003 08:45:28.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B97FD20:01C3AE79] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I got an S-330 a few months ago, and have used it to some extent with = just the CRT. >I finally found a used RC-100 but when I plugged it in, it didn't work. = You have to set the control to RC-100 and (wehen I remember correctly) = save system and boot again! 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From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 19 09:52:48 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193683-27580>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:52:46 -0500 Received: from x400gate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.121]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193682-27580>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:52:43 -0500 Received: by x400gate-01.ic.gc.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:47:50 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D06000000000007B92FD5@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Macs, SCSI and s760 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:50:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi all I am taking the plunge and purchasing a Mac, likely a G5 when the price drops a bit. I still have some research to do but a few questions could best be answered by experience. I would like to hear some feedback from Mac users on using a SCSI card with Mac to communicate with the S760 (I have 2 of them). Will a Mac HD work, ie will the drive split off a section for use by the 760, which is limited to 600 MB? When using digital audio, how much HD space should I be thinking about, internal vs external, and RAM considerations? The dealers tend to lead you down the garden path with this info. I'm also planning on getting an interface for digital audio such as the MOTU 828mkII. This has one midi in and one midi out. I have a Roland A-880 (8-in 8-out midi mixer/patchbay from 1988) which I haven't used as yet, but will this get around the limitations of only having 1midi in and 1midi out? My guess is yes...however see below. Also welcome are comments on software you may be using, mainly Cubase SL, SX2, Nuendo or Logic. I use currently use Cubase but will plan to upgrade to SL or SX, probably SX. I am interested in audio performance, as I don't work with video. My current config has 2 midi ins and outs. In Cubase (I use an older version) I can record 2 midi instruments live in one take, ie play two midi devices and record the performances on two separate channels. I would like to be able to increase this, play several midi devices and record the performance of each in realtime, live (including controller info). This may include some audio tracks recorded to HD at the same time. I am interested in knowing if anyone does this, or if it's even possible with the setup proposed above. I know Steinberg makes the Midex with 8-in and 8-out. Is this what I need? or could I use the A-880 to mix 8 channels of midi to one channel and record it to Cubase SX? ...thanks for any feedback. Ralph - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 19 16:59:00 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193685-27580>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:58:53 -0500 Received: from hotmail.com (law12-f36.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.36]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193684-27581>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:58:43 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:58:39 -0800 Received: from 81.59.173.107 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:58:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [81.59.173.107] X-Originating-Email: [heimhelicopters@hotmail.com] From: "Ewald Homie" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:58:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2003 21:58:39.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A165890:01C3AEE8] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi there, I'm looking for software or something so that I can use my old laptop as a library storage system for my S330. But I want to be able to load the s330's memory via the midi bus from the laptop. Does anyone know some thing?? Steven Vermeij Netherlands _________________________________________________________________ Chatten met je online vrienden via MSN Messenger. http://messenger.msn.nl/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 19 17:09:48 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193685-27581>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:09:38 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193684-27581>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:09:37 -0500 Received: from s060b021.kapsch.co.at (s060b021.kapsch.co.at [148.198.40.46]) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.10) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:09:32 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.115]) by s060b021.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 23:09:31 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Subject: sgroup Re:( looking for S330 program) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:09:31 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB2276836409@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re:( looking for S330 program) Thread-Index: AcOu6c6ZGLm/nFFJTFa6v7ChG/gviQ== From: "Ullrich Peter" To: "Ewald Homie" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2003 22:09:31.0954 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEF8F120:01C3AEE9] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk SGkhDQoNCgk+SSdtIGxvb2tpbmcgZm9yIHNvZnR3YXJlIG9yIHNvbWV0aGluZyBzbyB0aGF0IEkg Y2FuIHVzZSBteSBvbGQgbGFwdG9wDQphcyBhDQoJPmxpYnJhcnkgc3RvcmFnZSBzeXN0ZW0gZm9y IG15IFMzMzAuIEJ1dCBJIHdhbnQgdG8gYmUgYWJsZSB0byBsb2FkIHRoZQ0KPnMzMzAncyBtZW1v cnkgdmlhIHRoZSBtaWRpIGJ1cyBmcm9tIHRoZSBsYXB0b3AuIERvZXMgYW55b25lIGtub3cgc29t ZSA+dGhpbmc/Pw0KCQ0KCUhhdmUgYSBsb29rIGF0IG15IFMzMzAgcGFnZS4gVGhlcmUgeW91IGNh biBkb3dubG9hZCBTNTUwZWRpdCBmcm9tIEF4ZWwNClN0cmFuZC4NCg0KCUNpYW8NCglQZXRlcg0K CQ0KCWh0dHA6Ly93d3cudWxscmljaC5hdC50dA0KDQo= - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 19 18:06:55 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193685-27580>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:06:46 -0500 Received: from hnexfe11.hetnet.nl ([195.121.6.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193684-27580>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:06:36 -0500 Received: from ptr ([195.121.151.18]) by hnexfe11.hetnet.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:06:31 +0100 Message-ID: <00b201c3aef2$3a419100$129779c3@ptr> From: "P. Vermeeren" To: References: Subject: sgroup Re: Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:09:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2003 23:06:32.0270 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5A3BEE0:01C3AEF1] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk As far as I know, I'm afraid that for the S-330 the only usable option is saving & backups on 3'5" floppies. Or you must not mind to get a S-550 for this, which can read the S-330 disks and save these on Zip... Please don't consider loading/saving by MIDI a sane option, life's too short for that. It's maybe acceptable for a one-time sample transfer if that's the only possibility, but you don't want to use this for sample/program-loading. And I guess it won't even work for anything else than raw samples. Bye, Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Ewald Homie To: Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:58 PM > Hi there, > > I'm looking for software or something so that I can use my old laptop as a > library storage system for my S330. But I want to be able to load the s330's > memory via the midi bus from the laptop. Does anyone know some thing?? > > Steven Vermeij > Netherlands > > _________________________________________________________________ > Chatten met je online vrienden via MSN Messenger. http://messenger.msn.nl/ > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 19 19:39:38 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193685-27581>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:39:30 -0500 Received: from atla-mx1.iss.net ([209.134.161.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193684-27581>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:39:26 -0500 Received: from atlmaiexcp06.iss.local (atlmaiexcp06.iss.local [209.134.160.245]) by atla-mx1.iss.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAK0dAiQ002834 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from SYDMAIEXCP01.iss.local ([203.194.85.71]) by atlmaiexcp06.iss.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:39:11 -0500 Received: from [192.168.45.61] ([192.168.45.61]) by SYDMAIEXCP01.iss.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:39:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:39:08 -0500 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Macs, SCSI and s760 Message-ID: <59937562.1069328348@[192.168.45.61]> In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D06000000000007B92FD5@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> References: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D06000000000007B92FD5@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2003 00:39:08.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[B541A410:01C3AEFE] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca's email client sent: > I'm also planning on getting an interface for digital audio such as the > MOTU 828mkII. This has one midi in and one midi out. I have a Roland > A-880 (8-in 8-out midi mixer/patchbay from 1988) which I haven't used as > yet, but will this get around the limitations of only having 1midi in and > 1midi out? My guess is yes...however see below. [...] > My current config has 2 midi ins and outs. In Cubase (I use an older > version) I can record 2 midi instruments live in one take, ie play two > midi devices and record the performances on two separate channels. I > would like to be able to increase this, play several midi devices and > record the performance of each in realtime, live (including controller > info). This may include some audio tracks recorded to HD at the same > time. I am interested in knowing if anyone does this, or if it's even > possible with the setup proposed above. I know Steinberg makes the Midex > with 8-in and 8-out. Is this what I need? or could I use the A-880 to mix > 8 channels of midi to one channel and record it to Cubase SX? I have an A-880 is still use it a LOT. However, it sounds like what you need is some sort of MIDI merger rather than a MIDI patch bay. The A-880 is basically just a MIDI patch bay, although it can be set up to merge a single MIDI input with another MIDI input. So, at least you will be able to replicate your current setup of recording the MIDI from 2 MIDI instruments in one take. I've never needed to attempt what I think you are trying to do. I've always only needed to record at most two MIDI controllers at once. However, going the other way has been much easier - controlling multiple MIDI instruments by sending the sequencer output data via the patch bay. In fact, before I had a hard disk recording setup, I produced most of my material that way - constructed the sequences, then recorded the audio as a live mix to DAT. In fact, I'm not sure how you can play more than two MIDI controllers simultaneously, unless you are recording multiple players. But perhaps I am too entrenched in a multitracking mindset - I'm sure you have your reasons. As for the Midex, I'm not familiar with it. You'll need to make sure it can merge as well as patch, otherwise you are no better off with it than you would be with the A-880. Cheers, Bernie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I've seen the shape the world of electronic music is in. Most of it is pear-shaped." Jim Holmes - September 2003 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 19 19:49:43 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193685-27580>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:49:37 -0500 Received: from atla-mx1.iss.net ([209.134.161.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193684-27580>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:49:33 -0500 Received: from atlmaiexcp06.iss.local (atlmaiexcp06.iss.local [209.134.160.245]) by atla-mx1.iss.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAK0nMiO003813 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from SYDMAIEXCP01.iss.local ([203.194.85.71]) by atlmaiexcp06.iss.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:49:22 -0500 Received: from [192.168.45.61] ([192.168.45.61]) by SYDMAIEXCP01.iss.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:49:19 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:49:19 -0500 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Macs, SCSI and s760 Message-ID: <60548343.1069328958@[192.168.45.61]> In-Reply-To: <59937562.1069328348@[192.168.45.61]> References: <59937562.1069328348@[192.168.45.61]> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Nov 2003 00:49:19.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[218215A0:01C3AF00] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Bernie Maier's email client sent: > I have an A-880 is still use it a LOT. Proofreading - who needs to do that? That should read: I have an A-880 and I still use it a LOT. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 19 21:30:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193685-27581>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:29:54 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (askuse.ody.ca [216.240.7.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193684-27581>; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:29:42 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.4] by v728 with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 3.0.2); 19-Nov-2003 21:29:17 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 21:29:17 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Macs, SCSI and s760 From: Dr Raven To: S Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D06000000000007B92FD5@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On 11/19/2003 9:50 AM, "Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca" wrote: > hi all > > I am taking the plunge and purchasing a Mac, likely a G5 when the price > drops a bit. I still have some research to do but a few questions could best > be answered by experience. First piece of advice... A G5 is an amazing computer (I like mine just fine) but some of the digital audio companies are re-tooling their gear at the moment to work with the G5 due to incompatibilities (PCI-X slots for one). Devices like the Digi-001 will not work with the G5. Not even the 1.6 Ghz model with it's standard PCI slots will work. And some older SCSI cards will not work with the G5 either. So hit the web and call your local retailers and do lots of research to find out what will work with what before you make your purchase. Here's Digidesign's webpage for more info on the G5: http://www.digidesign.com/news/details.cfm?story_id=243 > I would like to hear some feedback from Mac users on using a SCSI card with > Mac to communicate with the S760 (I have 2 of them). Will a Mac HD work, ie > will the drive split off a section for use by the 760, which is limited to > 600 MB? I have an S-750 and I can't see a way to do what you describe. I don't think the Mac will be able to communicate with the S-760 over a SCSI cable. You can certainly take an older 50-pin SCSI-1 type hard drive and put it in an external enclosure and connect it up to the SCSI port for extra storage. But to interface the Mac and the S-760 together via the SCSI ports ain't likely to work and may even damage the SCSI port(s). > When using digital audio, how much HD space should I be thinking about, > internal vs external, and RAM considerations? The dealers tend to lead you > down the garden path with this info. That depends on the size of your projects and your intentions. IMHO the default 256 MB for my 1.6 Ghz G5 is okay for running the OS and most household programs comfortably, but another 256 would give me some headroom to run just about anything including big Photoshop projects and be able to run several programs at one time comfortably. When I get more into digital audio with this machine I'll want to bump it up to 1 Gb of ram. I'm planning on a smaller scale home studio (yeah, give it a year and see what happens!) and it won't be ion constant use so the default 80 GB hard drive should be fine as long as I backup my projects frequently to CD-R or DVD-R and then get them off the hard drive to make room for the next project. If you plan on doing a lot of digital audio projects and not dumping them off frequently to the DVD burner or other backup media then you're going to run out of space quick. Add another 80 GB hard drive, or even bump it up to a 120 GB HD if you've got the coin to store all your digital audio projects on and then stock up on DVD-R disks to make backups. But as always YMMV. > I'm also planning on getting an interface for digital audio such as the MOTU > 828mkII. This has one midi in and one midi out. I have a Roland A-880 (8-in > 8-out midi mixer/patchbay from 1988) which I haven't used as yet, but will > this get around the limitations of only having 1midi in and 1midi out? My > guess is yes...however see below. Again, check the MOTU website to make sure the 828mkII will work with the G5. The G5 has new PCI-X slots that render some older PCI cards and devices incompatible. Lots of homework is needed with this kind of venture to make sure you are going to be happy with all of your choices :) > Also welcome are comments on software you may be using, mainly Cubase SL, > SX2, Nuendo or Logic. I use currently use Cubase but will plan to upgrade to > SL or SX, probably SX. I am interested in audio performance, as I don't work > with video. See above. Research. > My current config has 2 midi ins and outs. In Cubase (I use an older > version) I can record 2 midi instruments live in one take, ie play two midi > devices and record the performances on two separate channels. I would like > to be able to increase this, play several midi devices and record the > performance of each in realtime, live (including controller info). This may > include some audio tracks recorded to HD at the same time. I am interested > in knowing if anyone does this, or if it's even possible with the setup > proposed above. I know Steinberg makes the Midex with 8-in and 8-out. Is > this what I need? or could I use the A-880 to mix 8 channels of midi to one > channel and record it to Cubase SX? Can't verify if either of those devices can merge 8 inputs into 1, but most midi patchbays can't. My JL Cooper MSB+ patchbay can only merge 2 inputs into 1. I think you may want to look into a merger unit instead. Check out the Midi Solutions M8: http://www.midisolutions.com/prodm8.htm Andy Skuse -- Raven's Garage www.ravensgarage.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Nov 20 06:11:42 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193685-23697>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:11:41 -0500 Received: from mail1.mclink.it ([195.110.128.7]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193681-23697>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:11:34 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.112] (net141-036.mclink.it [195.110.141.36]) by mail1.mclink.it (8.12.6p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id hAKBBQpW011047 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:11:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sdaino@compuserve.com) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:12:17 -0500 Subject: Re: sgroup Macs, SCSI and s760 From: Stefano Daino To: S Group Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, D-SoundPRO (www.d-soundpro.com) supports: - by MIDI the S-50, S-330, S-550, S-7xx Roland samplers, - by SCSI the S-760 and DJ70 MkII, - by direct floppy read/write the S-50, S-330, S-550 floppy disk formats. It works very well on old MacOS 8.x/9.x based Macs, but on MacOS X I'm not sure. The MIDI may works by OMS after 10.2.6, the SCSI should not. The direct floppies read/write works only if the Mac has an internal floppy driver. DSP-Quattro (www.DSP-Quattro.com) support all the above except the direct floppies read/write, but the SCSI has problems under MacOS 10.3 (Panther). I'll fix this in the very near future. and, of course, I suggest DSP-Quattro for editing and for the real time hosting of Instruments and Effects AU and VST plug-ins, but I'm not the right person to make comparisons... :-) Ciao Stefano Daino sdaino@dsp-quattro.com > Da: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca > Data: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:50:47 -0500 > A: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Oggetto: sgroup Macs, SCSI and s760 > > > hi all > > I am taking the plunge and purchasing a Mac, likely a G5 when the price > drops a bit. I still have some research to do but a few questions could best > be answered by experience. > > I would like to hear some feedback from Mac users on using a SCSI card with > Mac to communicate with the S760 (I have 2 of them). Will a Mac HD work, ie > will the drive split off a section for use by the 760, which is limited to > 600 MB? > > When using digital audio, how much HD space should I be thinking about, > internal vs external, and RAM considerations? The dealers tend to lead you > down the garden path with this info. > > I'm also planning on getting an interface for digital audio such as the MOTU > 828mkII. This has one midi in and one midi out. I have a Roland A-880 (8-in > 8-out midi mixer/patchbay from 1988) which I haven't used as yet, but will > this get around the limitations of only having 1midi in and 1midi out? My > guess is yes...however see below. > > Also welcome are comments on software you may be using, mainly Cubase SL, > SX2, Nuendo or Logic. I use currently use Cubase but will plan to upgrade to > SL or SX, probably SX. I am interested in audio performance, as I don't work > with video. > > My current config has 2 midi ins and outs. In Cubase (I use an older > version) I can record 2 midi instruments live in one take, ie play two midi > devices and record the performances on two separate channels. I would like > to be able to increase this, play several midi devices and record the > performance of each in realtime, live (including controller info). This may > include some audio tracks recorded to HD at the same time. I am interested > in knowing if anyone does this, or if it's even possible with the setup > proposed above. I know Steinberg makes the Midex with 8-in and 8-out. Is > this what I need? or could I use the A-880 to mix 8 channels of midi to one > channel and record it to Cubase SX? > > ...thanks for any feedback. > > Ralph > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Nov 20 10:14:27 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193685-23696>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:14:21 -0500 Received: from x400gate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.121]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193681-23696>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:14:05 -0500 Received: by x400gate-01.ic.gc.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:08:16 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D06000000000007B92FE6@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Macs, SCSI and s760 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:08:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk thanks everyone Bernie Maier said: >In fact, I'm not sure how you can play >more than two MIDI controllers simultaneously, unless you are >recording multiple players. But perhaps I am too entrenched in a >multitracking mindset - I'm sure you have your reasons. I have this reaction quite a bit. I am a composer, but also very much a live player. Occassionally I record what I could call a "midi jam". I will create a midi bed track of drums, bass and maybe some accompaniment, a few different sequences of 16 or 32 bars etc. I will loop the whole sequence, so the whole loop will be maybe 1-3 minutes long. I call this my instant gratification jam, when I just want to play. The time it takes is mostly determined by how long it takes to create the loops, maybe 30-45 minutes max or it's not "instant". Then it's jam-time, maybe 8-12 minutes. I have 4 midi keyboards but only room on my old MidiQuest for two controllers to be recorded simultaneously. However when I perform the "jam", I will be switching around from different instruments, but obviously never more than two at a time, or I would need four hands, or more people as you suggest. In addition I am recording analog instruments like Rhodes, Clavinet and Minimoog. Normally I just mix everything live to a few tracks on my ADAT. If there are no catastrophic flaws, it goes on a CDR. Over-dubbing requires much more planning and time, and results are rarely as good as the jam, so not really worth the time. (Composing is a totally different process.) The results are pretty good but sometimes a really good jam is tainted by those technical flubs, like "that lead was way too loud", or "couldn't hear the Rhodes". It's hard to tell how the recorded levels will sound when you're performing while listening to the live mix, which as you know is always different than a recorded mix. Ideally I would like to get the analog stuff to digital audio and the midi stuff to each it's own track. That way I can fix any flubs - mostly volumes and the 'oops wrong key' phenomenon - and maybe do a little post-production. >As for the Midex, I'm not familiar with it. You'll need to make sure >it can merge as well as patch, otherwise you are no better off with it >than you would be with the A-880. Thanks for this info, it is very useful, and the other comments as well! Ralph - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Nov 20 10:16:37 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193686-23696>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:16:28 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193681-23696>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:16:17 -0500 Received: from epu (210.new-york-01rh15-16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net[12.75.128.210]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112015161411300dujkte>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:16:15 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Problems Burning S760 CDs Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:16:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C3AF4F.532310B0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C3AF4F.532310B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey All, I'm having serious issues burning image files of my disks. Nero Burning ROM (PC Program for burning CDs) has a facility for burning image files, but everytime I try to make an image file of my Zip100 Disc, it tells me that the disk isn't formatted, so it's no accessible. Would I need another program to do this successfully (write the image file I mean). Disk2File looks good, but I have a USB Zip, so I don't need SCSI in the equation. Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C3AF4F.532310B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey=20 All,
 
I'm = having serious=20 issues burning image files of my disks. Nero Burning ROM (PC Program for = burning=20 CDs) has a facility for burning image files, but everytime I try to make = an=20 image file of my Zip100 Disc, it tells me that the disk isn't formatted, = so it's=20 no accessible. Would I need another program to do this successfully = (write the=20 image file I mean). Disk2File looks good, but I have a USB Zip, so I = don't need=20 SCSI in the equation.
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C3AF4F.532310B0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Nov 20 15:29:50 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193686-23696>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:29:41 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193685-23697>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:29:37 -0500 Received: from epu (unknown[12.75.159.28]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <2003112020293311300dtr0ve>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:29:34 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: RE: sgroup Problems Burning S760 CDs Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:29:31 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3AF7B.17F3FCD0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3AF7B.17F3FCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, No one remembers the exact procedure at all? My friend was able to do this at his house flawlessly (albeit with a kurzweil sampler and his two Zip drives). I have the two zips and just need to know exactly how to do this. If I had the time, I'd create a search function as to search the archives for this kind of info. Thanks, Harold -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:16 AM To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Problems Burning S760 CDs Hey All, I'm having serious issues burning image files of my disks. Nero Burning ROM (PC Program for burning CDs) has a facility for burning image files, but everytime I try to make an image file of my Zip100 Disc, it tells me that the disk isn't formatted, so it's no accessible. Would I need another program to do this successfully (write the image file I mean). Disk2File looks good, but I have a USB Zip, so I don't need SCSI in the equation. Thanks, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3AF7B.17F3FCD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings,
 
No one=20 remembers the exact procedure at all? My friend was able to do this at = his house=20 flawlessly (albeit with a kurzweil sampler and his two Zip drives). I = have the=20 two zips and just need to know exactly how to do this. If I had the = time, I'd=20 create a search function as to search the archives for this kind of=20 info.
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
-----Original Message-----
From: = owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca=20 [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Harold = Everton,=20 Jr.
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:16 AM
To: = sgroup@lists.uunet.ca
Subject: sgroup Problems Burning S760=20 CDs

Hey = All,
 
I'm = having=20 serious issues burning image files of my disks. Nero Burning ROM (PC = Program=20 for burning CDs) has a facility for burning image files, but everytime = I try=20 to make an image file of my Zip100 Disc, it tells me that the disk = isn't=20 formatted, so it's no accessible. Would I need another program to do = this=20 successfully (write the image file I mean). Disk2File looks good, but = I have a=20 USB Zip, so I don't need SCSI in the equation.
 
Thanks,
Harold
 
= ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3AF7B.17F3FCD0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Thu Nov 20 15:45:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193686-23696>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:45:32 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193685-23696>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:45:28 -0500 Received: from epu (92.new-york-20rh15-16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net[12.75.156.92]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2003112020452711200gc2tpe>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:45:27 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup New SDISK For Windows?! Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 15:45:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C3AF7D.5069F540" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C3AF7D.5069F540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey All, I may be late on this, but did you all know that there is a Windows equivalent for the old DOS S-Disk Utility. I found it while fooling around looking for a Zip image program on the net. Here it the URL: http://w30.frankie.sk/sdiskw/index.php?a=f Take Care, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C3AF7D.5069F540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey=20 All,
 
I may = be late on=20 this, but did you all know that there is a Windows equivalent for the = old DOS=20 S-Disk Utility. I found it while fooling around looking for a Zip image = program=20 on the net. Here it the URL:
 
http://w30.frankie.= sk/sdiskw/index.php?a=3Df
 
Take=20 Care,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C3AF7D.5069F540-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Nov 21 00:26:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193689-18745>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:26:31 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193688-18745>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:26:25 -0500 Received: from epu (203.new-york-19rh16rt.ny.dial-access.att.net[12.75.155.203]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112105261911100o5kkje>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 05:26:19 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup More Roland Sxxx Editing Software Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:26:17 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3AFC6.1466E960" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3AFC6.1466E960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, Remember when you all said you'd pay for upgrades of certain kinds. This isn't exactly one, but this is the kind of software I'd at least pay for (granted it'd work with the S7xxx) series. Take a look at this editing software that's supposed to work in Windows. This is amazing stuff: http://w30.frankie.sk/en/manual.html Later, Harold ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3AFC6.1466E960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey,
 
Remember when you=20 all said you'd pay for upgrades of certain kinds. This isn't exactly = one, but=20 this is the kind of software I'd at least pay for (granted it'd work = with the=20 S7xxx) series. Take a look at this editing software that's supposed to = work in=20 Windows. This is amazing stuff:
 
http://w30.frankie.sk/en/ma= nual.html
 
Later,
Harold
 
------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C3AFC6.1466E960-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Nov 21 09:01:33 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193692-18744>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:01:23 -0500 Received: from web41011.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.10]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193690-18744>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:01:22 -0500 Message-ID: <20031121140111.14099.qmail@web41011.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.172.8.11] by web41011.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:01:11 PST Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:01:11 -0500 From: Jon Engel Subject: Re: sgroup New SDISK For Windows?! To: "Harold Everton, Jr." Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk My understanding, this utility did not support S-7xx series samplers. Is that true? Jon E. --- "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > Hey All, > > I may be late on this, but did you all know that there is a > Windows > equivalent for the old DOS S-Disk Utility. I found it while > fooling around > looking for a Zip image program on the net. Here it the URL: > > http://w30.frankie.sk/sdiskw/index.php?a=f > > Take Care, > Harold > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Nov 21 09:15:33 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193692-18744>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:15:25 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193690-18744>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:15:15 -0500 Received: from epu (62.new-york-20rh15-16rt.ny.dial-access.att.net[12.75.156.62]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112114150911100o6gbue>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:15:09 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: RE: sgroup New SDISK For Windows?! Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:15:07 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20031121140111.14099.qmail@web41011.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey, This is the same S DISK program that was out for years, just re-interfaced for Windows. I used it last night and it did work. It's only a imaging program anyway. Teledisk (an older program I think) would work just the same. Now, if only someone would write one for Zip Disks. Until a Zip Disk imaging program comes out, I'll just spend 10 hours or so, copying Zips to floppies and archiving them that way. Later, Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Nov 21 23:42:34 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193705-18744>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:42:30 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193699-18744>; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:42:22 -0500 Received: from epu (90.new-york-19rh16rt.ca.dial-access.att.net[12.75.155.90]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2003112204421611200gs2c4e>; Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:42:18 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: RE: sgroup Problems Burning S760 CDs Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:42:14 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: <03Nov21.145323-0500_est.216471-22805+34673@ams.ftl.affinity.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey Alison, I may pick up that Osmosis program. Sounds like it may be what I need on the PC platform. I really want to hang onto my Roland S760, I've really grown to like it. However, I don't want to spend $100s trying to integrate it into my setup. Being able to burn CDs (using Disk Images at the least), the ability to S-Video out to a flat screen, etc. is a must. When Iomega releases the SCSI version of the 750MB Drive, we'll be alright. Later, Harold -----Original Message----- From: alison@treblecove.com [mailto:alison@treblecove.com] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 2:53 PM To: Harold Everton, Jr. Subject: Re: sgroup Problems Burning S760 CDs Hi Harold, I do this using Osmosis (from BitHeadz) or Translater (from ChickenSys) which lets my computre recognize the drives or disks when Roland formatted, and lets me make the disk image. Sounds like you know how to take it from there. Both of those programs are commercial software though so you have to purchase one or the other. I don't know if there's a way to do it without either of these. -Alison Harold Everton, Jr. writes: > Greetings, > > No one remembers the exact procedure at all? My friend was able to do this > at his house flawlessly (albeit with a kurzweil sampler and his two Zip > drives). I have the two zips and just need to know exactly how to do this. > If I had the time, I'd create a search function as to search the archives > for this kind of info. > > Thanks, > Harold > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On > Behalf Of Harold Everton, Jr. > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:16 AM > To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca > Subject: sgroup Problems Burning S760 CDs > > > Hey All, > > I'm having serious issues burning image files of my disks. Nero Burning > ROM (PC Program for burning CDs) has a facility for burning image files, but > everytime I try to make an image file of my Zip100 Disc, it tells me that > the disk isn't formatted, so it's no accessible. Would I need another > program to do this successfully (write the image file I mean). Disk2File > looks good, but I have a USB Zip, so I don't need SCSI in the equation. > > Thanks, > Harold - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Nov 23 11:35:01 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193729-19988>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:34:54 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.117]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193727-19988>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:34:48 -0500 Received: from epu (9.new-york-22rh15-16rt.ny.dial-access.att.net[12.75.160.9]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc13) with SMTP id <20031123163444113006r8qne>; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:34:44 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: RE: sgroup Problems Burning S760 CDs Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:34:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Greetings All, I just wanted to thank those who gave their time to suggest the steps to burning S760 CD-ROMs. The information on Francios' S760 website is extremely comprehensive and has aided me in getting my Roland S7xx CDs burned. The Disk2File program is exactly what I was looking for. It makes disk imaging a snap. There is a $30 registration fee, and after burning a few disks, I'm gonna go ahead and contact the author to send payment. In case you guys didn't know, Disk2File is disk imaging software that works on SCSI drives. I complained at first, but an extra $20 for an SCSI Card from your local Comp USA (http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?sid=3FBFF8804F7BE17F&produ ct_code=50114056&pfp=SEARCH), and maybe 2 minutes downloading the ASPI update for WinXP pays off a hell of a lot. With the SCSI Card, I'm able to use my S760's Zip with my PC. After I made the .ISO image file, I used Nero Burning ROM 6 to burn the image file to CD and voila! I have my own home-made Roland S7xx CDs. The Disk2File website is here: http://www.zicweb.com/disk2file/index.php?lg=us Oh BTW, I just won the Roland Keyboard Of The 60s & 70s Vol. 2 CD off eBay. I'll let you know how it turns out. Later, Harold Everton, Jr. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 24 04:48:59 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193707-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:48:50 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.228.126]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193677-25281>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:48:42 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAO9mepp091345 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:48:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens@localhost.generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id hAO9metm091344 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 04:48:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from hotmail.com (bay9-f48.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193707-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:33:26 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:33:24 -0800 Received: from 165.247.83.254 by by9fd.bay9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:33:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [165.247.83.254] X-Originating-Email: [gtrplaya@hotmail.com] From: "Six Stringa" To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup S-760 online resources Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:33:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2003 06:33:24.0556 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCA8E8C0:01C3B254] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hello groups, I've just purchased a S-760 (unfortunately without the OP-760-1 upgrade) and was wondering aside from http://s760.us.tt/, Peter Ullrich's page, and the traffic at sgroup and Roland Samplers @ yahoo, are there any other resources online that I could peruse? I've been using an S-550 for years, so not totally new to the S-760. I've read excellent posts from Lloyd, Richard, Francois, etc, so any help would be greatly appreciated. PS: I would lost in using my S-550 without its monitor, so if there are any "tips" or such, in using the S-760 without one, I'd greatly appreciate if you could pass them my way.... Thanks. Doug _________________________________________________________________ Gift-shop online from the comfort of home at MSN Shopping! No crowds, free parking. http://shopping.msn.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 24 06:51:14 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:51:07 -0500 Received: from ctb-mesg5.saix.net ([196.25.240.77]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193724-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:50:56 -0500 Received: from [155.239.64.81] (rndf-ip-nas-1-p81.telkom-ipnet.co.za [155.239.64.81]) by ctb-mesg5.saix.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFA57030 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 13:50:49 +0200 (SAST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: musos@196.41.128.80 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:50:30 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Colin Shapiro Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 online resources Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I've just purchased a S-760 (unfortunately without the OP-760-1 >upgrade) and was wondering aside from http://s760.us.tt/, Peter >Ullrich's page, and the traffic at sgroup and Roland Samplers @ >yahoo, are there any other resources online that I could peruse? >I've been using an S-550 for years, so not totally new to the S-760. >I've read excellent posts from Lloyd, Richard, Francois, etc, so any >help would be greatly appreciated. From my bookmarks: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/bdx/info/bdxtech/s-760.html (not too much there.....) The Roland site: http://www.rolandus.com/products/details.asp?CatID=8&SubCatID=37&ProdID=S-760 (not too much there either.....) >PS: I would lost in using my S-550 without its monitor, so if there >are any "tips" or such, in using the S-760 without one, I'd greatly >appreciate if you could pass them my way.... ?? I think one really HAS to use a monitor for the S760. Just use the VIDEO OUT, straight to a compatible monitor or TV set. Full colour - it's a must. Enjoy - Colin - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 24 08:18:25 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:18:18 -0500 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193724-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:18:07 -0500 Received: from user-uinj4nb.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.146.235] helo=mindspring.com) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AOGbJ-00061m-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:18:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2051D.4020508@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:18:21 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja, ko, zh-hk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 online resources References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Six Stringa wrote: > PS: I would lost in using my S-550 without its monitor, so if there > are any "tips" or such, in using the S-760 without one, I'd greatly > appreciate if you could pass them my way.... I got familiar enough with the S-550 to use it, at least just loading and configuring patches, from the front panel but I can't imagine being able to use the S-760 that way. If you absolutely have to use the 760 without a monitor, good luck! Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 24 23:38:44 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:38:44 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.228.126]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193683-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:38:28 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAP4cMpp043412 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:38:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens@localhost.generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id hAP4cMhG043411 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:38:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from hotmail.com (bay9-f27.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.27]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193680-25281>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:07:52 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:07:50 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.106 by by9fd.bay9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 22:07:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.106] X-Originating-Email: [gtrplaya@hotmail.com] From: "Six Stringa" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca, RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com Subject: S-760 with a video card and Mac monitor (was: Re: sgroup S-760 online resources) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:07:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Nov 2003 22:07:50.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[669465A0:01C3B2D7] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anyone have any suggestions on what Tim G. scribbled to me below? Thanks in advance, Doug >From: Tim Goodwin >To: "Six Stringa" >Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 online resources >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:56:04 -0500 > >Hello Doug > >Buy a cheap video card and run the S-760's S-Video out into the card and >use your Mac (or whatever) monitor. > >Tim > >>PS: I would lost in using my S-550 without its monitor, so if there are >>any "tips" or such, in using the S-760 without one, I'd greatly appreciate >>if you could pass them my way.... >> >>Thanks. >>Doug _________________________________________________________________ Say “goodbye” to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Nov 24 23:49:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:49:36 -0500 Received: from atla-mx1.iss.net ([209.134.161.6]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193683-25280>; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:49:26 -0500 Received: from atlmaiexcp06.iss.local (atlmaiexcp06.iss.local [209.134.160.245]) by atla-mx1.iss.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAP4m7CC025597 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from SYDMAIEXCP01.iss.local ([203.194.85.71]) by atlmaiexcp06.iss.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:48:50 -0500 Received: from [192.168.45.61] ([192.168.45.61]) by SYDMAIEXCP01.iss.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:48:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:48:47 -0500 From: Bernie Maier Reply-To: Bernie Maier To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: S-760 with a video card and Mac monitor (was: Re: sgroup S-760 online resources) Message-ID: <506927328.1069775327@[192.168.45.61]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2003 04:48:47.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[69ECE500:01C3B30F] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Six Stringa's email client sent: > Anyone have any suggestions on what Tim G. scribbled to me below? My immediate reaction is that it won't help, because you said: > I've just purchased a S-760 (unfortunately without the OP-760-1 upgrade) and he said: > Buy a cheap video card and run the S-760's S-Video out into the card but the S-760's S-Video out is on the OP-760-1, so you don't have it. Sorry to break the bad news. Cheers, Bernie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I've seen the shape the world of electronic music is in. Most of it is pear-shaped." Jim Holmes - September 2003 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Nov 25 01:18:49 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193725-3350>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:18:43 -0500 Received: from mtiwmhc12.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.116]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193683-3350>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:18:36 -0500 Received: from epu (34.new-york-20rh15-16rt.ny.dial-access.att.net[12.75.156.34]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc12) with SMTP id <2003112506183211200rnf99e>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 06:18:32 +0000 From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: RE: S-760 with a video card and Mac monitor (was: Re: sgroup S-760 online resources) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 01:18:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <506927328.1069775327@[192.168.45.61]> Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hey All, Findign the Op-1 by itself is going to be a royal pain. I think someone suggested that you buy a second hand S-760 with the OP1 installed, since those are so easy to come by. This by itself would be worth it, considering that the OP1 by itself on eBay would probably be way overpriced. As for a monitor, I'm real comfortable with the S760 and want a very modern look. I figure an LCD Monitor, witht he RC-100 as a keyboard, and the MU1 mouse with Zip100 by its side will make the S760 (with its body tucked nicely away in a rack) would give it the look of a self contained computer. How is this accomplished you ask? Well, Rioland must have looked 10 years into the fucture when they made their OP1, because more and more LCD Monitors are coming with S-Video input, which means we don't need no stinking scan convertor to use them. Screw Digital RGB and the composite. LCDs aree getting cheaper on eBay. They use less more space and look a hell of a lot cooler. Just do a search like "LCD S-Video" in Google and you'll come up with at least several hundred results with prices. Later, Harold -----Original Message----- From: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca [mailto:owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca]On Behalf Of Bernie Maier Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:49 PM To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: S-760 with a video card and Mac monitor (was: Re: sgroup S-760 online resources) Six Stringa's email client sent: > Anyone have any suggestions on what Tim G. scribbled to me below? My immediate reaction is that it won't help, because you said: > I've just purchased a S-760 (unfortunately without the OP-760-1 upgrade) and he said: > Buy a cheap video card and run the S-760's S-Video out into the card but the S-760's S-Video out is on the OP-760-1, so you don't have it. Sorry to break the bad news. Cheers, Bernie --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I've seen the shape the world of electronic music is in. Most of it is pear-shaped." Jim Holmes - September 2003 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Nov 25 17:08:40 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193726-3349>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:08:31 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (cpe000024c0194d-cm400035817053.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.228.126]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193685-3349>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:08:21 -0500 Received: from localhost.generalconcepts.com (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hAPM8FDq010424 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:08:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens@localhost.generalconcepts.com) Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by localhost.generalconcepts.com (8.12.8p2/8.12.8/Submit) id hAPM8FuT010423 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:08:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from hotmail.com (bay9-f9.bay9.hotmail.com [64.4.47.9]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193681-3349>; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:35:46 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:35:43 -0800 Received: from 151.190.254.108 by by9fd.bay9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:35:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.190.254.108] X-Originating-Email: [gtrplaya@hotmail.com] From: "Six Stringa" To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: [RolandSamplers] S-760 with a video card and Mac monitor (was: Re: sgroup S-760 online resources) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:35:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2003 16:35:43.0425 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B847310:01C3B372] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I just remembered that I am running the studio set up with a Power Mac 7100 AV, which has a PDS Video card inside (S-Video In and S-Video Out), so I should be able to connect the S-760's composite outputs to the video card, no? Also, Dorian, and others, if I have a spare slot open to drop another video card into, I suppose I can connect a second monitor also? Thanks again for the help. >From: Dorian Hernandez >Reply-To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com >To: RolandSamplers@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [RolandSamplers] S-760 with a video card and Mac monitor (was: >Re: sgroup S-760 online resources) >Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 03:26:31 -0800 (PST) > >He meant using a video digitizing card (Pinnacle, etc.) or a TV Tuner card >(ATI is the most popular) in your PC and connecting the S-760's composite >output the TV card and displaying the video on your PC's monitor. As for >the Mac, as long as you can find a TV card for it, you can do the same. >I've got the ATI TV Wonder in my DELL and I get to use both my computer for >sequencing and controlling the S-760 (I have dual monitors, so it's easy to >have mutiple windows open). Hope this helps. > >Six Stringa wrote: >Anyone have any suggestions on what Tim G. scribbled to me below? > >Thanks in advance, >Doug > > > >From: Tim Goodwin > >To: "Six Stringa" > >Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 online resources > >Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 12:56:04 -0500 > > > >Hello Doug > > > >Buy a cheap video card and run the S-760's S-Video out into the card and > >use your Mac (or whatever) monitor. > > > >Tim > > > >>PS: I would lost in using my S-550 without its monitor, so if there are > >>any "tips" or such, in using the S-760 without one, I'd greatly >appreciate > >>if you could pass them my way.... > >> > >>Thanks. > >>Doug > >_________________________________________________________________ >Say “goodbye” to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet >connection! 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From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 26 16:35:16 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193689-8992>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:35:11 -0500 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193688-8992>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:35:01 -0500 Received: from user-105n80q.dialup.mindspring.com ([64.91.160.26] helo=mindspring.com) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AP7JK-0000w1-00 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:35:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC51C92.9030803@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:35:14 -0500 From: Jesse Segovia User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja, ko, zh-hk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Best Roland Format Piano Sample CD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I recorded a piano track from my Roland Jazz Composer's CD - it's a version of the same Yamaha C7 or whatever they have on their Rhythm Instruments CD. I wasn't happy with the result. It was just dead in the mix. What's the best sounding Roland-format piano sample CD out there? I see on the Ilio web site the Sonic Reality Concert Grand Pianos ($199), the Miroslav Vitous Acoustic Piano ($149) and the Double Platinum Rock Piano ($149). The Rock Piano CD might be best for my current use but I want a versatile piano I can use on a slow ballad as well as a brighter pop or rock tune and maybe even something classical. Suggestions? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Wed Nov 26 17:10:58 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193729-8991>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:55 -0500 Received: from x400gate-01.ic.gc.ca ([192.197.186.121]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193688-8991>; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 17:10:45 -0500 Received: by x400gate-01.ic.gc.ca with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:51:58 -0500 Message-ID: <989D3636B2ABD5118D3D06000000000007B93064@mb-bp-07.ic.gc.ca> From: Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: RE: sgroup Best Roland Format Piano Sample CD? Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:51:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I'll mention again that I sampled a Roland RD-600 on my 760, two samples per note except the uppers where there's no diff. I paid a few bucks to rent the keyboard, and my keyboardist said it sounded as good or better than his $5000 Yamaha keyboard. It spans 9 floppies. I'd be happy to send it to you if you can suggest an easy way to do it and there's no copyright issues. Ralph -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 4:35 PM To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Best Roland Format Piano Sample CD? I recorded a piano track from my Roland Jazz Composer's CD - it's a version of the same Yamaha C7 or whatever they have on their Rhythm Instruments CD. I wasn't happy with the result. It was just dead in the mix. What's the best sounding Roland-format piano sample CD out there? I see on the Ilio web site the Sonic Reality Concert Grand Pianos ($199), the Miroslav Vitous Acoustic Piano ($149) and the Double Platinum Rock Piano ($149). The Rock Piano CD might be best for my current use but I want a versatile piano I can use on a slow ballad as well as a brighter pop or rock tune and maybe even something classical. Suggestions? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Nov 28 09:08:00 2003 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193678-25427>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:07:52 -0500 Received: from ns.kapsch.net ([193.154.217.100]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193674-25426>; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:07:42 -0500 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (dumbo.kapsch.co.at [148.198.9.36]) by ns.kapsch.net (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.10) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:07:24 +0100 Received: from PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.11.115]) by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:07:24 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: sgroup Roland CD-5 CDROM Player for S550 Manual Online! Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:07:23 -0500 Message-ID: <7106E489D7E9DE44B3FDA28A4ECB227601014E4E@PUMBAA.kapsch.co.at> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [RolandSamplers] Re: Making back-up copy of 770 Zip Disk? Thread-Index: AcOzaFVasDjsnR0gTr+VWZUJ19ctZACUFtnQ From: "Ullrich Peter" To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2003 14:07:24.0082 (UTC) FILETIME=[F255B920:01C3B5B8] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi! I got the manual for the Roland CD5 CDROM Player for the S550 from a = nice guy,=20 scanned it and made a PDF so that CD5 users without the manual can load = it. It is stored on my temporary download page so please hurry up. It should = be there some some days/weeks until other documents need the webspace. You can find it on my "DOWNLOADS" subpage at http://www.ullrich.at.tt Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. 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