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Subject: sgroup How to check or verify a SCSI harddisk ?
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Hi,

First of all, this one's about a HDD for another sampler, but since it'll
be an universal issue I wanted to give it a try here: (thanks)


I found a Seagate SCSI-harddisk and after initializing it seems
to work OK with <sampler brand X>.

Since I don't know how it has been treated I'd like to check
it in some way. But since it has been initialized for the <X> it's not
longer
recognized by my PC (W98SE). At least I think it isn't assigned a drive
letter under Windows because of the initializing (of brand X - OK, it's a
Peavey DMP-SP).

The SCSI-drive is however reported fine in some PC-tools (as for instance
SiSoft Sandra: reported as being present on the SCSI-adapter), it's just
that it hasn't got a drive letter and because of this I don't know of a way
to run the usual diskcheck-tools on it.

Anyone some suggestions ?

Can I run checks without the disk having a drive letter perhaps ?
Suggestions for a program ? (I have 'Winhex' analyzing the disk now, but
it's still in progress and I have no idea yet what it actually checks -
surface scan ? Data integrity ? ...).

Or is there some way to reinitialize the HDD for Windows ? (I'd like to
avoid fdisk-stuff, it didn't got reported there)

At the moment the disk has no relevant data on it, so any trick would be OK.

Thanks,

      Peter


FWIW, the harddisk a 4GB Barracuda, 7200 RPM.



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> I found a Seagate SCSI-harddisk...
> Anyone some suggestions ?

I suggest this.

Go to the Seagate website and retrieve SeaTools and DiscWizard. It's free.
This will enable you to run all sorts of checks, format, etc.

Usually, HD manufacturers provide tools like that. IBM have some, Fujitsu
have some, etc. Check the manufacturer's website when you need to do some
work on a HD.

Francois






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Hello,

Thanks for the response. I did run a Seagate-tool already (something from
floppy), but it didn't find the SCSI-HDD to my surpise. I'll have another
look at their site, maybe I need another of their tools.

Thanks,

  Peter


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> > I found a Seagate SCSI-harddisk...
> > Anyone some suggestions ?
>
> I suggest this.
>
> Go to the Seagate website and retrieve SeaTools and DiscWizard. It's free.
> This will enable you to run all sorts of checks, format, etc.
>
> Usually, HD manufacturers provide tools like that. IBM have some, Fujitsu
> have some, etc. Check the manufacturer's website when you need to do some
> work on a HD.
>
> Francois



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Subject: Re: sgroup How to check or verify a SCSI harddisk ?
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On 5/3/03 12:02 PM, "P. Vermeeren" at <Peter.Vermeeren@hetnet.nl>wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Thanks for the response. I did run a Seagate-tool already (something from
> floppy), but it didn't find the SCSI-HDD to my surpise. I'll have another
> look at their site, maybe I need another of their tools.

It is likely because the drive was re-partitioned and formatted by your
sampler and is now using a file format that neither Windows nor a HD utility
will be able to understand. If you really want to check the drive then you
will need to backup whatever is on it right now, then re-partition it in the
computer, and *then* use the HD utility to check the drive. Be sure to run
all of the tools and make sure it checks for any bad blocks, because you
don't want to have to do this again anytime soon (too much work).





Andy Skuse
-- 
Raven's Garage - www.ravensgarage.com

Anon - "Hard Work Often Pays Off After Time, but Laziness Always Pays Off
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> but it didn't find the SCSI-HDD to my surprise

If the Seagate tools don't work, plug the hard drive on your PC scsi card
and start with a Win98 boot floppy. It contains scsi drivers. Then, run
FDISK to delete existing non-DOS partition(s) and recreate a DOS partition.
After reboot you should be able to format the drive.

Francois



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Hi,

it=B4s me, after a long time. :-)

I=B4ll get the S-550 today with a built in SCSI Interface. I have the CD-5=
 OS=20
allready, but I wanted to have the older HD-5 Version. Has anyone this OS?=
=20
Can I get it, please? I Will put it on my Web Site (www.roland-library.de)=
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and then everyone can have it.

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Is that 1.05 or 1.15 (I forget)? I have both


>From: Martin Wulff <martin@funandmusic.de>
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>Hi,
>
>it´s me, after a long time. :-)
>
>I´ll get the S-550 today with a built in SCSI Interface. I have the CD-5 OS 
>allready, but I wanted to have the older HD-5 Version. Has anyone this OS? 
>Can I get it, please? I Will put it on my Web Site (www.roland-library.de) 
>and then everyone can have it.
>
>Bye, Martin
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Hi all,

    I'm about to put both my S-50 and 550 up for sale and thought I'd give
the list first crack. I am the original owner of both and have kept them in
amazing shape, in part by not using them for the last 8 years or so, but
that's another long story....

    I don't want to clutter the list with the relevant details, so just
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I'm located in Canada, so it might be a better deal for a North American
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    I've been lurking on this list for years, and have benefitted immensely
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Hi,

Thanks to all who responded on my SCSI-HDD verification question. After a
first test with the SeaTools utility from Seagate, some juggling got the HDD
fdisked & formatted again and I was able to test this 4 GB harddisk under
Windows. It turned out to be OK, so now it can go back again to the format
my Peavey sampler likes to use on it. The Peavey likely can't
check this HDD as thorough, so the PC-checks were desirable.

Thanks all for your info & suggestions !

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Greetings Everyone,

It's been a while since I've written to either of you on both lists. I'm =
just curious to know what you've all been up to on your samplers? I =
recently purchased the Digital Boy Modern Synths Sample CD from Ilio =
Entertainments (Roland S700 format). I had already purchased their Hans =
Zimmer Guitars Vol. 1 Version 2 CD and was very impressed with the =
quality of their samples and their service.

The Modern Synth CD is no different. Nothing short of grade A+ quality =
synth samples. The sounds on this CD is what Roland, Korg, etc couldn't =
achieve with their synths minus effects. This 2 CD set is like a =
collection of new useful melodic pads, synths, bread & butter and hard =
hitting powerful drum sounds that I have yet to hear anywhere. There are =
so many good sounds that it's hard not to get angry at my Roland S760s =
24 note polyphony! It's like you want to use all the sounds in your =
compositions! Check out this weblink so you can get more info.=20

http://www.ilio.com/ilio/digiboy/

But what have you guys been up to?

Later,
Harold


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Greetings Everyone,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It's been a while since I've written to =
either of=20
you on both lists. I'm just curious to know what you've all been up to =
on your=20
samplers? I recently purchased the Digital Boy Modern Synths Sample CD =
from Ilio=20
Entertainments (Roland S700 format). I had already purchased their Hans =
Zimmer=20
Guitars Vol. 1 Version 2 CD and was very impressed with the quality of =
their=20
samples and their service.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Modern Synth CD is no different. =
Nothing short=20
of grade A+ quality synth samples. The sounds on this CD is what Roland, =
Korg,=20
etc couldn't achieve with their synths minus effects. This 2 CD set is =
like a=20
collection of new useful melodic pads, synths, bread &amp; butter and =
hard=20
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anywhere.</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;There are so many good sounds that it's hard =
not to get=20
angry at my Roland S760s 24 note polyphony! It's like you want to use =
all the=20
sounds in your compositions! Check out this weblink so you can =
get&nbsp;more=20
info. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But what have you guys been up =
to?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Later,</FONT></DIV>
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>But what have you guys been up to?

I just received the EXS24 First Edition of the Vienna Symphonic Library.
Whew !!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll need a month to get through all of this.
It's awesome............

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Hello,
I just purchased (its in the mail) an S-550, with the mouse, RGB adapter, and 
some sample disks.
Ive never used a Roland sampler, and Im hoping to get a lot of feedback about 
the S-550.

Is there a monitor setup that is preferred over another?  

Are other sample formats compatible with the S-550, and vice versa?

Also are there any more accessories, or an operating system I should look 
into?

What are some strong points of the S-550?

Im curious about what others like the best about their S-550, and where they 
feel they get the most out of it.

ANY suggestions, or tips are greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Dave

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Emailit2@aol.com wrote:


> Is there a monitor setup that is preferred over another?  

I don't think so. Even a monochrome monitor is fine.


> Are other sample formats compatible with the S-550, and vice versa?

I don't own a 550, but a 330. But I think the following is correct: 
the 550 can read sample disks from all other 12 bit Roland samplers, 
except the W-30. But there's a conversion utility.
The 16 bit Roland samplers can read disks from the 550.

It's possible to transfer samples from and to the sampler via MIDI 
Sysex (proprietary Roland format - not SDS). So with a conversion 
program theoretically any sample format can be imported/exported.
There are also programs that can read or write the sample disks, this 
is much faster then transferring the samples via MIDI.

> Also are there any more accessories, or an operating system I should look 
> into?

There's a hard disk interface. Others can comment better on this than 
me (since it's not available for the 330).


> 
> What are some strong points of the S-550?

The strongest point IMHO is that you can connect a mouse and monitor. 
The filters are good also, and the envelopes are very versatile.

Ingo



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>I just purchased (its in the mail) an S-550, with the mouse, RGB adapter, and
>some sample disks.

Enjoy!!!!

>Also are there any more accessories, or an operating system I should look
>into?
>
>ANY suggestions, or tips are greatly appreciated!

Go here: http://www.heimserver.de/mwmstudios/
It says S330 but all the downloads will work on the S550. LOTS of 
disks here....

Also try: http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ (but that's probably 
how you found us....)

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Dear S-760 lovers,
=20
I bought my S-760 a few months ago. After many try I was able to
understand with the help of others how to use the s-760 archive,
download it and use floppy image to import all the sound achive on the
s-group site to the sampler. I was long but I found some very nice
sounds. Now I=92m trying to do the same with the s-550 and W-30 archive
but when I use the floppy my s-760 it says that =93not a s-550 format=94 =
or
=93not formated=94. I=92m very excited to see that other people are =
putting
sounds there but I cannot import it to the sampler, even if I=92m using
the very same method I used for the s-760 archive. I would like to know
what I=92m doing wrong. The doc says that the s-760 can read s-550 and
W-30, since I=92m using floppy image I do not understand what is wrong.
Please understand that I=92m not a PC wizard, so please clear =
explanations
would be greatly appreciated.
=20
Thanks in advance to all the people that will try to help me on that
issue.
=20
St=E9phane Pr=E9vost, Montr=E9al, Canada
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I would like to know what I&#8217;m doing wrong. The doc says that the =
s-760 can
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Hi!
=20
>I bought my S-760 a few months ago. After many try I was able to =
understand
with the help of others how to use the s-760 archive, download it and =
use floppy
image to import all the >sound achive on the s-group site to the =
sampler. I was
long but I found some very nice sounds. Now I'm trying to do the same =
with the
s-550 and W-30 archive but when I use the=20
>floppy my s-760 it says that "not a s-550 format" or "not formated". =
I'm very
excited to see that other people are putting sounds there but I cannot =
import it
to the sampler, even if I'm >using the very same method I used for the =
s-760
archive. I would like to know what I'm doing wrong. The doc says that =
the s-760
can read s-550 and W-30, since I'm using floppy=20
>image I do not understand what is wrong. Please understand that I'm not =
a PC
wizard, so please clear explanations would be greatly appreciated.
>=20

Did you use 720kB Disks? Double Density with other words.
The S-330, S-550, S-50 and W-30 use 720kB Disks.

Ciao
Peter

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Hi,

I'm new to the group and would like to congratulate all those 
responsible for the archive it's a great resource...thanks!

I wonder if anyone can help with the following though?

I have been having trouble using many of the samples from the S10 
library (using  S10 Manager). In particular the L-100a through L111 
from the original Roland library and the samples from the Li'l Chips 
library.The other libraries work fine but S10 Manager says that those 
I have mentioned are 'not valid system exclusive files'. Has anybody 
else had similar trouble, or have you any ideas what is going wrong.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

best regards,

Steve Brodie

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Hi everyone,
Just wanted to say that I am new to the group, but I already like what I 
see.
I currently only own an S-10 and my new (well, new used) S-330 should be 
waiting for me at home today or tomorrow, so I am really excited about 
getting involved with the group and contributing samples. I had also 
bought an S-550 (eBay), but I don't know if I will ever see it (I seem 
to be getting ripped off with a no-ship).  Too bad since I went out a 
bought a DT-100 for it.  Live and learn, I guess.

Thanks for letting me rant, keep the information flowing.

Bob Sarnoski
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Hi Stéphane,

to read a S-330/S-550/W-30 disk on a S-760, you have to use "Convert 
Load", not "Load". Also, you have to use a DD disk, or a HD disk with 
the hole (not the write protect hole, the other one) covered with tape.

I couldn't quote your mail because Netscape 7 crashes when I try to do 
so. Could you please send plain text instead of HTML?

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 >floppy my s-760 it says that "not a s-550 format" or "not formated". I'=
m
very  >excited to see that other people are putting sounds there but I
cannot
 >import it

As well as being on a 720k disk, i think it need to be loaded with CONVER=
T
LOAD not the regualar load.

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Hi Steve,

Version 0.51 should solve your problem...

There is another update version 0.52:
http://mercury.spaceports.com/~s10man/S10man52.zip
This version verifies the received sample data by calculating the checksum.

Good Luck!
The S-10 Manager Team

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> Hi,
> 
> I'm new to the group and would like to congratulate all those 
> responsible for the archive it's a great resource...thanks!
> 
> I wonder if anyone can help with the following though?
> 
> I have been having trouble using many of the samples from the S10 
> library (using  S10 Manager). In particular the L-100a through L111 
> from the original Roland library and the samples from the Li'l Chips 
> library.The other libraries work fine but S10 Manager says that those 
> I have mentioned are 'not valid system exclusive files'. Has anybody 
> else had similar trouble, or have you any ideas what is going wrong.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
> 
> best regards,
> 
> Steve Brodie
> 
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(Please see below for the conversation that led me here)

To those in the group with 330s that use sdisk for PC:

I booted sdisk from dos. I re-checked the instructions for sdisk and found
that 2DD disks are required for the 330. I used to have about 30 of these
disks but gave them away when I sold an MC50 (doh!).

Then I thought I could use sdisk to take the one DD boot disk that came with
the 330 and save it to my computer's hard drive, then use the same disk to
create the utilities disk. I was able to write the boot disk file to my hard
drive, but could not get sdisk to write me a new utilities disk from the
util-103.out file. It kept saying sector not found and unkown address,
things like that. I made sure I followed the instructions to the letter.

Another thing that puzzles me is that the disk that came with the unit seems
to have a bunch of patches etc on it. So far I haven't got a peep out of it
when I send midi. I'll try again, but would it be possible to email the file
to someone and see if there's anything in it?

If anyone can offer me any advice, I would certainly appreciate it. Since I
believe DDs are no longer available, it may be better to get the utility etc
disks from someone ready to go...but then where will I save my work? Does
anyone know of a source for DD disks? I'm beginning to think I'm snafu'd...

Thanks
Ralph

(Thanks to Ingo)

>-----Original Message-----

>>
>>I'm on Mac, so I don't have any experience with SDISK. From what I've 
>>read on sgroup, SDISK works fine when the PC is booted with DOS, but 
>>doesn't work well from the Windows DOS compatibility box (or whatever 
>>that thing is called).
>>Did you format the disk on your S-330 first? I don't know if this is 
>>required for SDISK. SMAC (which is the Mac equivalent for 
>SDISK) needs 
>>pre-formatted disks. Since your S-330 boots with the disk you 
>got, you 
>>should be able to format another disk. Go to the disk menu.
>>Remember, the S-330 uses only DD disks, not HD. I've used HDs 
>>(formatted to DD of course), but others on sgroup reported that they 
>>had problems with HDs.
>>If it still doesn't work, you could also try SAMDISK, another Roland 
>>disk program. It's on the sgroup sit too.
>>
>>
>>> 
>>> The 330 came with a single disk that loads a bunch of stuff. 
>>The 330 boots
>>> with this disk but there doesn't seem to be the needed 
>>sampling software
>>> that is in the utilities disk. I haven't figured out yet 
>>exactly what's on
>>> this disk or what it loads into memory, whether there are 
>>actual sounds or
>>> just labels and the sounds still need to be loaded. Other 
>>than that it looks
>>> like sounds and midi channels, similar to the 760 structure 
>>and I can move
>>> around the menus using the mouse, but it doesn't seem to 
>>respond to the midi
>>> messages I send. I wouldn't mind making just a boot disk on 
>>it's own, as
>>> well as the utilities.
>>
>>Unlike with the 760, every S-330 or S-550 sound disk contains an OS 
>>for the sampler, so you can boot it from any disk. If a disk contains 
>>a S-550 (or S-50) system, you can overwrite it using the 
>"save system" 
>>command.
>>But some features (like doing your own sampling) are missing in this 
>>OS, that's what the utility disk is for.
>>
>>Ingo
>>
>>
>

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Buy DS/DD disks from EBay as I have.  Here are several auctions:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2731740970&category=11164

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2731015203&category=11164

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From: <Detko.Ralph@ic.gc.ca>
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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:36 AM
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> (Please see below for the conversation that led me here)
>
> To those in the group with 330s that use sdisk for PC:
>
> I booted sdisk from dos. I re-checked the instructions for sdisk and found
> that 2DD disks are required for the 330. I used to have about 30 of these
> disks but gave them away when I sold an MC50 (doh!).
>
> Then I thought I could use sdisk to take the one DD boot disk that came
with
> the 330 and save it to my computer's hard drive, then use the same disk to
> create the utilities disk. I was able to write the boot disk file to my
hard
> drive, but could not get sdisk to write me a new utilities disk from the
> util-103.out file. It kept saying sector not found and unkown address,
> things like that. I made sure I followed the instructions to the letter.
>
> Another thing that puzzles me is that the disk that came with the unit
seems
> to have a bunch of patches etc on it. So far I haven't got a peep out of
it
> when I send midi. I'll try again, but would it be possible to email the
file
> to someone and see if there's anything in it?
>
> If anyone can offer me any advice, I would certainly appreciate it. Since
I
> believe DDs are no longer available, it may be better to get the utility
etc
> disks from someone ready to go...but then where will I save my work? Does
> anyone know of a source for DD disks? I'm beginning to think I'm
snafu'd...
>
> Thanks
> Ralph
>
> (Thanks to Ingo)
>
> >-----Original Message-----
>
> >>
> >>I'm on Mac, so I don't have any experience with SDISK. From what I've
> >>read on sgroup, SDISK works fine when the PC is booted with DOS, but
> >>doesn't work well from the Windows DOS compatibility box (or whatever
> >>that thing is called).
> >>Did you format the disk on your S-330 first? I don't know if this is
> >>required for SDISK. SMAC (which is the Mac equivalent for
> >SDISK) needs
> >>pre-formatted disks. Since your S-330 boots with the disk you
> >got, you
> >>should be able to format another disk. Go to the disk menu.
> >>Remember, the S-330 uses only DD disks, not HD. I've used HDs
> >>(formatted to DD of course), but others on sgroup reported that they
> >>had problems with HDs.
> >>If it still doesn't work, you could also try SAMDISK, another Roland
> >>disk program. It's on the sgroup sit too.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The 330 came with a single disk that loads a bunch of stuff.
> >>The 330 boots
> >>> with this disk but there doesn't seem to be the needed
> >>sampling software
> >>> that is in the utilities disk. I haven't figured out yet
> >>exactly what's on
> >>> this disk or what it loads into memory, whether there are
> >>actual sounds or
> >>> just labels and the sounds still need to be loaded. Other
> >>than that it looks
> >>> like sounds and midi channels, similar to the 760 structure
> >>and I can move
> >>> around the menus using the mouse, but it doesn't seem to
> >>respond to the midi
> >>> messages I send. I wouldn't mind making just a boot disk on
> >>it's own, as
> >>> well as the utilities.
> >>
> >>Unlike with the 760, every S-330 or S-550 sound disk contains an OS
> >>for the sampler, so you can boot it from any disk. If a disk contains
> >>a S-550 (or S-50) system, you can overwrite it using the
> >"save system"
> >>command.
> >>But some features (like doing your own sampling) are missing in this
> >>OS, that's what the utility disk is for.
> >>
> >>Ingo
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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Hey,

My friend Duane Johnson swears he's a hardware hack and can accomplish =
anything. He expanded his old Commodore 128 to 2MB when we were kids and =
swears he can hack a Roland S760. If all's said and done, by the end of =
this year, one of our Roland S760s will be able to use 128MB.=20

I doubt he'd be able to do it, but since I'm on the OT subject of hacks, =
does anyone know of any famous hardware hacks which "increased" =
productivity of a music machine? I remember reading in the sgroup =
archives about a German company who released some type of TURBO hardware =
that increased the memory and speed of the Roland S750.

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Harold


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Re DD disks, Imation still manufacture them.

You can also buy HD disks and cover the hole with tape. When you format
them, the PC will think they're 720k instead of 1.4Mb.

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> one of our Roland S760s will be able to use 128MB.
> I doubt he'd be able to do it...

I think he may well be able to get the hardware side sorted, but without a
modification to the OS, I doubt it will work. Let us know if you have a
working solution. I for one would gladly pay to have this done if it proved
successful.

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Hi all,

Very many thanks to all who offered help and advice on this one,the 
update to S10 Manager has solved the problem and I'm very happy!! 
Especially as the quick disc drive seems to have given up the 
ghost.I've had my S10 since it was new and now it has got a new lease 
of life with all these sounds I have never had before!


Thanks again,

Steve

>Hi Steve,
>
>Version 0.51 should solve your problem...
>
>There is another update version 0.52:
>http://mercury.spaceports.com/~s10man/S10man52.zip
>This version verifies the received sample data by calculating the checksum.
>
>Good Luck!
>The S-10 Manager Team
>
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>
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  I'm new to the group and would like to congratulate all those
>>  responsible for the archive it's a great resource...thanks!
>>
>>  I wonder if anyone can help with the following though?
>>
>>  I have been having trouble using many of the samples from the S10
>>  library (using  S10 Manager). In particular the L-100a through L111
>>  from the original Roland library and the samples from the Li'l Chips
>>  library.The other libraries work fine but S10 Manager says that those
>>  I have mentioned are 'not valid system exclusive files'. Has anybody
>>  else had similar trouble, or have you any ideas what is going wrong.
>>
>>  Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
>>
>>  best regards,
>>
>>  Steve Brodie
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<div>Harold wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>My friend Duane&nbsp;Johnson swears he's
a hardware hack and can accomplish anything. He expanded his old
Commodore 128 to 2MB when we were kids and swears he can hack a Roland
S760. If all's said and done, by the end of this year, one of our
Roland S760s will be able to use 128MB.</blockquote>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>While he's about it, get him to hack the Roland OS!! It could
sure use an upgrade.</div>
<div>If it works, I'm in......</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>I doubt he'd be able to do it, but since
I'm on the OT subject of hacks, does anyone know of any famous
hardware hacks which &quot;increased&quot; productivity of a music
machine?</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>How about this one:</div>
<div>There's a board which I bought and installed in my old Roland
D550. It increases the number of banks and also makes it
multi-timbral. It's made by Musitronics and works just fine.</div>
<div>Here's the URL in case anyone's interested:</div>
<div>http://www.musitronics.de/info-e/D50-D550_info_e.html</div>
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<div>They do other stuff too....</div>
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Re: sgroup New 128MB Memory UpgradeHey,

I should send that company a letter. I think I'd trust this company more =
than the word of my colleague. The guy (my friend) is a mad man. If he =
can do this, I'll eat my hat.

Later,
Harold

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Colin Shapiro=20
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  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:39 PM
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  Harold wrote:
    My friend Duane Johnson swears he's a hardware hack and can =
accomplish anything. He expanded his old Commodore 128 to 2MB when we =
were kids and swears he can hack a Roland S760. If all's said and done, =
by the end of this year, one of our Roland S760s will be able to use =
128MB.

  While he's about it, get him to hack the Roland OS!! It could sure use =
an upgrade.
  If it works, I'm in......


    I doubt he'd be able to do it, but since I'm on the OT subject of =
hacks, does anyone know of any famous hardware hacks which "increased" =
productivity of a music machine?


  How about this one:
  There's a board which I bought and installed in my old Roland D550. It =
increases the number of banks and also makes it multi-timbral. It's made =
by Musitronics and works just fine.
  Here's the URL in case anyone's interested:
  http://www.musitronics.de/info-e/D50-D550_info_e.html


  They do other stuff too....


  Regards - Colin
  - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription =
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think I'd=20
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friend) is a=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Later,</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>Harold wrote:</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">My friend Duane&nbsp;Johnson swears =
he's a=20
    hardware hack and can accomplish anything. He expanded his old =
Commodore 128=20
    to 2MB when we were kids and swears he can hack a Roland S760. If =
all's said=20
    and done, by the end of this year, one of our Roland S760s will be =
able to=20
    use 128MB.</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>While he's about it, get him to hack the Roland OS!! It could =
sure use an=20
  upgrade.</DIV>
  <DIV>If it works, I'm in......</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite type=3D"cite">I doubt he'd be able to do it, but =
since I'm on=20
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hacks which=20
    "increased" productivity of a music machine?</BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>How about this one:</DIV>
  <DIV>There's a board which I bought and installed in my old Roland =
D550. It=20
  increases the number of banks and also makes it multi-timbral. It's =
made by=20
  Musitronics and works just fine.</DIV>
  <DIV>Here's the URL in case anyone's interested:</DIV>
  <DIV>http://www.musitronics.de/info-e/D50-D550_info_e.html</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>They do other stuff too....</DIV>
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On 5/29/03 11:48 AM, "Harold Everton, Jr." at
<evertonrecords@worldnet.att.net>wrote:

> My friend Duane Johnson swears he's a hardware hack and can accomplish
> anything. He expanded his old Commodore 128 to 2MB when we were kids and
> swears he can hack a Roland S760. If all's said and done, by the end of t=
his
> year, one of our Roland S760s will be able to use 128MB.
>=20
> I doubt he'd be able to do it, but since I'm on the OT subject of hacks, =
does
> anyone know of any famous hardware hacks which "increased" productivity o=
f a
> music machine? I remember reading in the sgroup archives about a German
> company who released some type of TURBO hardware that increased the memor=
y and
> speed of the Roland S750.

Hey, keep us posted on that (I'm still trying to find an upgrade from the
paltry 2MB I have in my 750 at the moment).

Here's a hardware "hack" I posted a while back that might not be a
performance upgrade but it sure upgraded the storage capability of my 750.
I've since located an external Syquest 135 optical drive that's faster than
the 100 MB zip but I haven't given up on trying to add an internal SCSI
connector to the logic board just yet. Stay tuned...


Zip 100 Upgrade for S-750

I recently =B3modified=B2 my S-750 and installed a 100 MB zip drive to replace
the standard 1.44 MB floppy drive. It=B9s not as clean a mod as I had hoped,
but in time I hope to refine things.

This mod assumes that you are starting with a 100 MB zip disk that you have
formatted in the S-750 and have copied the system to as well. If you haven'=
t
done so, you will need to connect up an external 100 MB SCSI zip drive, boo=
t
from a S-750 system floppy disk, then use the disk utilities to format and
copy the S-750 system files to the zip disk. Now you're all set.

One last thing... this modification is fairly simple and can be done by
anyone who has ever been courageous enough to open their computer before,
tinkered, and lived to tell about it. But this is strictly "Mod at your own
risk" and the author assumes no responsibility for any damage caused by thi=
s
mod.

Blah blah etc etc. Let's get to the good stuff!

After unscrewing the lid, I removed the 1.44 MB floppy, then installed an
internal 100 MB SCSI zip drive in the bay where the floppy drive used to
sit. The power connector for the floppy works fine with the Zip, but becaus=
e
the S-750 logic board does not have a SCSI connector soldered on to it I ha=
d
to use a cable to go from the external SCSI connector on the back of the
S-750 to the Zip drive=B9s 50 pin connector inside the S-750=B9s case. But
nobody makes a simple cable like that so I ripped apart an old SCSI externa=
l
hard drive case and took out the ribbon cable and 2 centronics connectors. =
I
then cut one of the centronics connectors off of the ribbon cable to shorte=
n
the length. So now I had an adapter of sorts to go from the external
connector to the internal zip drive. Here=B9s a cheesy diagram. Hope it makes
some sense:

CABLE           CABLE             ADAPTER            ADAPTER
25 pin - >  Centronics M  - >  Centronics F - >   50 pin ribbon
S-750           INSIDE            INSIDE             ZIP 100


Once I had the cable chain all put together I tried to find a way to route
the cable into the case with as little alterations as possible (cut through
the vents on the bottom plate for example) but there wasn=B9t a simple way. S=
o
I just put the cable under the lid and screwed it down (messy but the SCSI
cable is pretty thick and this is *very* temporary until I refine things). =
I
also had to stuff the =B3adapter=B2 assembly underneath the zip drive once it
was mounted on the two metal rails that used to hold the floppy drive to
keep the inner cable parts from flopping around and touching the logic
board.

I then inserted a zip disk with the system files on it into the zip drive
and then fired up the S-750 and watched the LCD screen. The sampler started
up, and for a moment it looked like it was all going to work but then it
halted during the scan (looking for a bootable system disk). I surmised tha=
t
the S-750=B9s BIOS needed to =B3see=B2 the floppy disk during the bootup process
as part of it=B9s POST routine so I hooked up the floppy to the floppy drive
cable. I didn=B9t have a power cable for the floppy any more but I just neede=
d
the S-750 to see that the floppy was connected, so I powered the S-750 on
again and this time it booted up completely. I tested the S-750 by loading =
a
few performances and everything worked fine. To deal with the floppy issue =
I
simply strapped the floppy to the back of the zip drive (again this is very
temporary and a work in progress) with black stretchy electrical tape and
re-closed the metal lid again. I had to slide the floppy down a ways on the
back of the zip, far enough so the lid would close.

After a few hours of sampling, looping and editing it looks like this is a
workable system. I=B9m looking into the possibility of soldering a 50 pin
ribbon connector to the logic board. There's a blank area marked SCSI where
the SCSI connector normally. And seeing how the 750 is really using a 770
logic board without the internal SCSI option (it says so on the bottom of
the logic board and other circuit boards) it should work, unless they also
removed the SCSI controller circuits as well at which point I may be out of
luck. But if it works, I=B9ll then need to find a way to tell the POST test
that the floppy is disabled or trick it into thinking it is there even
though it won=B9t be. If that all works I may then be able to add a SCSI hard
drive as well. In the meantime I have an S-750 with an internal 100 MB zip
drive neatly installed in the front and a funny curly-cue pig tail SCSI
cable loop sticking out of the bottom :) But it all works.






Andy Skuse
--=20
Raven's Garage - www.ravensgarage.com

"When You Earnestly Believe You Can Compensate For A Lack Of Skill By
Doubling Your Efforts, There's No End To What You Can't Do" - Anon



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Hello everyone,
I recently bought an S-550 and happened to get a DT-100 Drawing Tablet at
the same time (hey, when in Rome).  Has anyone ever used one of these?

It doesn't do much if you plug it into the front of the S-550 except freak
out the cursor on the screen every once in a while.

Does this need to be plugged through the RT-100 or do you think I have a bad
unit?

Thanks,
Bob Sarnoski
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Could someone tell me more about this "DT-100 Drawing Tablet"?


<< Hallo!
 
    >I recently bought an S-550 and happened to get a DT-100 Drawing Tablet
 at
    >the same time (hey, when in Rome).  Has anyone ever used one of these?
    
 
    Yes, I have one but I use it only from time to time...
 
    
    I>t doesn't do much if you plug it into the front of the S-550 except
 freak
    >out the cursor on the screen every once in a while.
    > 
    >Does this need to be plugged through the RT-100 or do you think I have
 a bad
    >unit?
    
    I can not remember how it was on the S550, but on the S-760 you have to
 plug it into the mouse input of the RC-100 remote control. The direct 
connection
 to the sampler does not work. And I think that Martin Wulff from Germany 
told me
 that it is the same on the S-330 and S-550.
 
    Ciao
    Peter
 
    http://ullrich.at.tt >>

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