From majordomo-owner@hugin.uunet.ca Thu Jul 5 00:51:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from localhost (localhost.generalconcepts.com [127.0.0.1]) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f654p1607862 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 00:51:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from majordomo-owner@hugin.uunet.ca) Received: from pop.uunet.ca [142.77.1.51] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.7.2) for gcjs@localhost (single-drop); Thu, 05 Jul 2001 00:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail4.uunet.ca ([209.167.141.34]) by munin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <472424-28633>; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 00:48:59 -0400 Received: from hugin.uunet.ca ([209.167.141.2]) by mail4.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <209094-19476>; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 00:48:52 -0400 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193716-25867>; Thu, 5 Jul 2001 00:48:46 -0400 To: jsellens@generalconcepts.com From: majordomo@hugin.uunet.ca Subject: Majordomo file: list 'sgroup' file 'sgroup.200106' Reply-To: majordomo@hugin.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: <2001Jul5.004846edt.193716-25867@hugin.uunet.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 00:48:45 -0400 Status: R -- >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 1 07:20:47 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-2345>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:20:40 -0400 Received: from babylon.experts-md (aputeaux-103-2-1-233.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.252.5.233]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193708-2345>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:20:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 6501 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 11:15:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mouli.net) (pjgrizel@10.0.0.11) by babylon.experts-md with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 11:15:19 -0000 Message-ID: <3B177B3D.F36B811C@mouli.net> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 07:23:41 -0400 From: Pierre-Julien Grizel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.14-5.0smp i686) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: sgroup Cakewalk Studioware for S550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, Does anyone know if a studioware panel for the S550 (or S50) exists ? Thanks ! P.-J. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 1 09:39:37 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-2344>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:39:31 -0400 Received: from babcom.loud-n-clear.net ([195.149.39.34]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-2344>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:39:21 -0400 Received: from [62.7.227.254] by babcom.loud-n-clear.net (NTMail 6.04.0010/NT0640.00.09a44b03) with ESMTP id ivdcnaaa for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:39:36 +0100 From: "jim" To: Subject: sgroup FS: Roland S50 in UK Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:42:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200105291750.f4THoCW08286@vega.ivic.qc.ca> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi all- probably a bit pointless as this is a list for people who presumably already own an S-series sampler but, I've a Roland S50 for sale with a large library (50+ disks). Its in pretty good condition and has just been serviced which included repairing some dry joints to the display and re-conditioning the keyboard. I'm looking for £200 ono- oh yeah I'm in the UK (Brighton) and currently without transport! mail me if interested. Ultimately I don't plan on jumping ship for long- I really like the S50 but it doesn't really suit its intended role; controller keyboard with some grungy sampling thrown in. I've gotta release some funds to pay for something else but would like to get a S330 in the future- I love the S50's sound and I also love tons of the roland library. Anyhoo- seeya jim - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 1 23:34:39 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-2345>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:34:32 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.65.54.138.on.wave.home.com [24.65.54.138]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-2345>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:34:26 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f523YLP02658 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:34:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from spawn.sinectis.com.ar ([216.244.211.104]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-2345>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:03:26 -0400 Received: from sinectis.com.ar (modem22-tc10b.capfed1.sinectis.com.ar [216.244.206.142]) by spawn.sinectis.com.ar (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20041 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 00:03:07 -0300 Message-ID: <3B18575C.7255920E@sinectis.com.ar> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:02:52 -0400 From: sebastian Reply-To: srm@sinectis.com.ar Organization: sonoam X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup s-50 + scsi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk hi everyone at sgroup i've an s-50 with an scsi conector installed, and i want to use it. do you know if i have to install an specific OS or / and an special hd?? i've OS 2.0 i know i've to use old hds such as Apple M-2620 (20Mb) M-2644 (40Mb) M-2688 (80Mb) CMS SD-20 (20Mb) SD-80 (80Mb) i'm in the search of them also, i think i've to get another OS, is it true? thanks for your information in advance bye sebastian - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 1 23:36:17 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-2345>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:36:08 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.65.54.138.on.wave.home.com [24.65.54.138]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-2345>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:36:02 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f523Ps601837 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:25:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from web12204.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.173.88]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193708-2345>; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:39:53 -0400 Message-ID: <20010601213947.40427.qmail@web12204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.156.107.144] by web12204.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:39:47 PDT Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:39:47 -0400 From: wildman bryan Subject: sgroup mc 505 drums To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk i am using the mc 505 in my midi setup and am trying to figure a way to trigger the drum or rythm section a certain way. the note length stays the same regardless of the length of the midi message. i want to affect the drum note length the same way other instrument notes are played through midi. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jun 2 12:09:49 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-12822>; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:09:43 -0400 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-12822>; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:09:33 -0400 Received: from smui02.slb.mindspring.net (smui02.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.25]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06159 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:09:29 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui02.slb.mindspring.net id MAA0000002662; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:09:30 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Connecting Roland S-760 Sampler and AW4416 via SCSI Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 156.27.25.174 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I've got it; my Roland S-760 sampler arrived this week! I loaded up some of the disk images from the Roland L700 library on our list archive, and it sounds great! But one question (for now 8-): I have a Yamaha AW4416 digital workstation, which also has a SCSI port and supports external SCSI devices. Before I try it and break something, what should happen if I connect my sampler's SCSI port to the AW4416's SCSI port? Should the sampler be able to read Roland-format sample CD-ROMs from the AW's CD-ROM drive, provided the sampler, the AW and the AW's CD-ROM drive all have unique SCSI IDs? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jun 2 13:03:24 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-12822>; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:03:20 -0400 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-12822>; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:03:09 -0400 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net (smui03.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.22]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02784 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:03:03 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id NAA0000011391; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 13:03:03 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup mc 505 drums Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 156.27.25.174 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Is there any way in the MC 505 to control each drum sound's decay or sustain? Can you adjust the decay time or turn it on or off? In a sampler or most any synth, you can set the decay to play to the end of the sound regardless of whether or not the player is sustaining the note. Maybe that's the default on the MC 505. Jesse wildman bryan wrote: > i am using the mc 505 in my midi setup and am trying > to figure a way to trigger the drum or rythm section a > certain way. the note length stays the same regardless > of the length of the midi message. i want to affect > the drum note length the same way other instrument > notes are played through midi. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jun 5 14:37:12 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-16601>; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:37:05 -0400 Received: from siaag1ac.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-16601>; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:37:01 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id OAA24749 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 14:36:26 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup S-700 series samples To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200106051436_MC3-D4C3-1917@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Roland samples for sale! I have a PLI Infinty 40 Turbo Drive. This is a 44 gig SCSI cartridge driv= e that comes complete with the Roland "Orchestra 1" sample set on a Syquest= cartridge. This set contains the massive Roland RSA-704 set of string, brass and rich woodwind. It was designed for the s770 samplers and probab= ly works fine on the s750, s700, s760 and maybe even s550's with SCSI. The drive itself was probably $500 or so and the sample archive was $295 if memory serves. It works and all samples copied fine - but will be sold as-is. No manual but works easily as it is configuired. Includes SCSI cable. Plug and play. Samples include multiple strings, pizz, cello, pads, voilas, violins, horns, sax, alto, woodwinds and more!!! Roland says "The Orchestral Family library set is an invaluable resource for film and television composers, pop and jazz arrangers, New Age musicians, orchestrators, copyists, educators, and anyone whose in search= of their own "Orchestra". The Orchestral Family is the culmination of ove= r eight years of sampling in studios, concert halls and cathedrals all over= the world and the contributions of hundreds of talented musicians, engineers, and sound designers." $75 plus shipping or a near offer or trade for something. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 7 17:18:46 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-158>; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:18:37 -0400 Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.25]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-157>; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:18:32 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive1n1.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.6.225]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03994 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B1FF157.7FC9BA24@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 17:25:43 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Roland S-760 16-bit Samplers for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk A fellow I know is selling several Roland S-670 samplers. They are maxed in RAM, include the monitor/mouse expander, and are in good, full functional condition at a very reasonable price. Please contact me off-list for details. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jun 13 09:31:27 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-25292>; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:31:19 -0400 Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.148]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-25292>; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:31:09 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive0ad.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.1.77]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07627 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B276CD6.7A15E644@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:38:30 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Connecting Roland S-760 Sampler and AW4416 via SCSI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk For your information: it didn't work. I finally bought the old 25-pin SCSI connection to new SCSI pin connection cable to connect my S-760 sampler to my AW-4416 digital workstation but no luck. I set all the SCSI addresses correctly (AW is 6, CD-ROM drive is 3 and I set the 760 to 0), I brought up the AW-4416, put a Roland-formatted sample CD in its drive, and then powered up the S-760. As the 760 did its SCSI check the CD-ROM drive in the AW started whirring and I was a little encouraged. After the 760 came up all the way, I went to Disk, Load and selected CD-ROM drive on SCSI ID 3 (the 760 DID recognize that there was a CD drive at that address). Guess what? I saw a listing of all the performances on the sample CD! Success! Or so I thought. At this point both the 760 AND the AW locked up - I had to cold boot both of them. I tried again with a different CD, and got the exact same results. Oh well. Back to the old Roland compatibility list. Jesse jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: > > I have a Yamaha AW4416 digital workstation, which also has a SCSI port and supports external SCSI devices. Before I try it and break something, what should happen if I connect my sampler's SCSI port to the AW4416's SCSI port? Should the sampler be able to read Roland-format sample CD-ROMs from the AW's CD-ROM drive, provided the sampler, the AW and the AW's CD-ROM drive all have unique SCSI IDs? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 09:35:27 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:35:19 -0400 Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:35:16 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive2kq.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.10.154]) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA32065 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B28BF52.D9C3ED6B@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:42:42 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I contacted Roland to see if they still stocked the floppy disks and CD that originally same with the S-760. Here's what they said: Floppy disk set that came with the S-760, part no 00123190, $19.80. I guess this is a boot diskette and maybe one or two disks of samples (the person on the phone didn't know)? Does anyone know if these images are available anywhere and if not, is it worth the twenty bucks? Also, they have the Preview CD, part no 22403382, for $15.40. I did order this; I should be getting it in seven to ten business days. I'll let everyone know what this is. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 09:38:54 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:38:45 -0400 Received: from mailsrv.argonaut.com (mailhost.argonaut.com [193.128.238.145]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:38:34 -0400 Received: by mailhost.argonaut.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:38:23 +0100 Message-ID: <415C917D807AD411B72C00805FF7330B62AFE8@mailhost.argonaut.com> From: Justin Scharvona To: Sampler Group Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:38:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk You should have asked the sgroup first...! I have the preview CD, its got a lot of nice samples on it. -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] Sent: 14 June 2001 14:43 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs I contacted Roland to see if they still stocked the floppy disks and CD that originally same with the S-760. Here's what they said: Floppy disk set that came with the S-760, part no 00123190, $19.80. I guess this is a boot diskette and maybe one or two disks of samples (the person on the phone didn't know)? Does anyone know if these images are available anywhere and if not, is it worth the twenty bucks? Also, they have the Preview CD, part no 22403382, for $15.40. I did order this; I should be getting it in seven to ten business days. I'll let everyone know what this is. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 09:42:23 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193712-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:42:17 -0400 Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193709-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:42:07 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive2kq.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.10.154]) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06715 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B28C0E6.BA4C3C33@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:49:26 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup CD-ROM drive for the S-760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk So on ebay, I finally found a CD-ROM drive, a Plextor 43CS, that's on the S-760 supported list on the Roland web site. I talked to Roland sampler support and they said everything on the list of supported drives is an external drive so go ahead and buy it, but the seller responded to me today that it's an internal drive. I've never tried to use an internal drive outside of a PC; I'm sure I'd need a transformer to go from the wall to that funny four-pin power connection PC internals use and I might have a problem going from the CD's internal data connection to the 760's 25 pin SCSI connection. I even went to my local CompUSA to try to get a brand new drive and they no longer sell SCSI CD-ROM drives for the Mac. No luck here. 8-( Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 09:50:33 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:50:25 -0400 Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.177]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:50:15 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive2kq.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.10.154]) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20950 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B28C2CF.19E3CDC7@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:57:35 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs References: <415C917D807AD411B72C00805FF7330B62AFE8@mailhost.argonaut.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Wow! thanks for the very quick reply. I don't have a problem paying fifteen bucks for the CD, but I AM concerned about twenty bucks for the floppy disk set, which for all I know contains samples available on the CD or on the Roland L-700 library. Do you have the floppy disk images? By the way, Roland told me they have discontinued all the sampler CDs in their S-700 series library like Keyboards of the 60s and 70s and the orchestral stuff. This doesn't make sense to me since their newer sound modules can read these CDs and they're still listed on their web site; plus it seems like you can still buy them through ilio or other similar sites. But if they ARE discontinued, isn't it completely legal for us to copy and swap these CDs (I know, I should have asked Roland)? Jesse Justin Scharvona wrote: > > You should have asked the sgroup first...! I have the preview CD, its got a > lot of nice samples on it. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 09:54:09 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:53:59 -0400 Received: from mailsrv.argonaut.com (mailhost.argonaut.com [193.128.238.145]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:53:56 -0400 Received: by mailhost.argonaut.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:53:48 +0100 Message-ID: <415C917D807AD411B72C00805FF7330B62AFE9@mailhost.argonaut.com> From: Justin Scharvona To: Sampler Group Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:53:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Yes I've got the floppy disc set too, and from memory they do contain mostly different samples to the Preview CD. The floppy disc set came with the S750/70 series and is therefore quite old, but again there are some useful sounds on there. -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Segovia [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] Sent: 14 June 2001 14:58 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs Wow! thanks for the very quick reply. I don't have a problem paying fifteen bucks for the CD, but I AM concerned about twenty bucks for the floppy disk set, which for all I know contains samples available on the CD or on the Roland L-700 library. Do you have the floppy disk images? By the way, Roland told me they have discontinued all the sampler CDs in their S-700 series library like Keyboards of the 60s and 70s and the orchestral stuff. This doesn't make sense to me since their newer sound modules can read these CDs and they're still listed on their web site; plus it seems like you can still buy them through ilio or other similar sites. But if they ARE discontinued, isn't it completely legal for us to copy and swap these CDs (I know, I should have asked Roland)? Jesse Justin Scharvona wrote: > > You should have asked the sgroup first...! I have the preview CD, its got a > lot of nice samples on it. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 09:56:17 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193710-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:56:07 -0400 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.110]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193709-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:55:57 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive2kq.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.10.154]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA32764 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B28C427.DCBCBE67@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:03:19 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: sgroup Quick Questions on the S-760 (I hope) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I don't have the manual for my S-760 yet but in the meantime I have two of what I hope are very simple questions (and yes, I've read everything that's available on the Roland web site). 1) How do I name (or rename) samples, partials, patches etc? I put the cursor in the name field but I can't seem to enter or change any of the characters. 2) Once I have some of my own stuff in the sampler, how do I save it? I've been doing a little bit of sampling, including setting up the patches and a performance, but when I go to Disk Save I get an error trying to save. It seems I have to do something to the volume to make it ready to save to disk but I can't figure it out. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 10:00:37 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:00:29 -0400 Received: from mailgate3.cinetic.de ([212.227.116.80]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:00:19 -0400 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mailgate3.cinetic.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id f5EE0DF27831; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:00:15 +0200 Received: from web.de by smtp.web.de with smtp (freemail 4.2.1.8 #22) id m15AXfQ-007nZyC; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:00 +0200 Message-ID: <3B28C35A.A26CD68@web.de> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:59:54 -0400 From: niko Reply-To: niko_s@web.de Organization: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesse Segovia , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup CD-ROM drive for the S-760 References: <3B28C0E6.BA4C3C33@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk and for the list: just get any Xternal SCSI Chassis that will fit a CD Drive and put it in...btw, if your Mac-Support-shop has any old built-in Drives, get one, and put it in an external Chassis! they perfectly work with my 760. Niko Jesse Segovia wrote: > So on ebay, I finally found a CD-ROM drive, a Plextor 43CS, that's on > the S-760 supported list on the Roland web site. I talked to Roland > sampler support and they said everything on the list of supported drives > is an external drive so go ahead and buy it, but the seller responded to > me today that it's an internal drive. > > I've never tried to use an internal drive outside of a PC; I'm sure I'd > need a transformer to go from the wall to that funny four-pin power > connection PC internals use and I might have a problem going from the > CD's internal data connection to the 760's 25 pin SCSI connection. > > I even went to my local CompUSA to try to get a brand new drive and they > no longer sell SCSI CD-ROM drives for the Mac. > > No luck here. 8-( > > Jesse > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 10:06:20 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:06:10 -0400 Received: from mailgate3.cinetic.de ([212.227.116.80]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:06:00 -0400 Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by mailgate3.cinetic.de (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with SMTP id f5EE5qF12848; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:05:52 +0200 Received: from web.de by smtp.web.de with smtp (freemail 4.2.1.8 #22) id m15AXkt-007nZ1C; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:05 +0200 Message-ID: <3B28C4AE.BFF143E7@web.de> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:05:34 -0400 From: niko Reply-To: niko_s@web.de Organization: nichtlineareaudioproduktionen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesse Segovia , Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Quick Questions on the S-760 (I hope) References: <3B28C427.DCBCBE67@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Jesse Segovia wrote: > I don't have the manual for my S-760 yet but in the meantime I have two > of what I hope are very simple questions (and yes, I've read everything > that's available on the Roland web site). > > 1) How do I name (or rename) samples, partials, patches etc? I put the > cursor in the name field but I can't seem to enter or change any of the > characters. move your cursor to the character, you want to change and turn the dial -or if you use the mouse, click the right button?! and the "keyboard menu" will appear. This only works in the same level (you can rename partials only in the partial level...) > > > 2) Once I have some of my own stuff in the sampler, how do I save it? > I've been doing a little bit of sampling, including setting up the > patches and a performance, but when I go to Disk Save I get an error > trying to save. It seems I have to do something to the volume to make > it ready to save to disk but I can't figure it out. Its Disk Utilities ->format HTH, Niko > > > Jesse > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 10:12:52 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:12:43 -0400 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:12:33 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive2kq.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.10.154]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23413; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B28C7B4.D0CF57EC@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:18:28 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: niko_s@web.de CC: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup Quick Questions on the S-760 (I hope) References: <3B28C427.DCBCBE67@mindspring.com> <3B28C4AE.BFF143E7@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Thanks a lot. I'm sure I tried the right-mouse button but maybe I highlighted the wrong thing; I'll give it another try tonight. On saving to disk, I'm not sure it's a formatting problem; it seems the sampler doesn't know exactly what to save to the disk. But I'll try that again tonight and let you know what the exact error ir. Jesse niko wrote: > move your cursor to the character, you want to change and turn the dial -or > if you use the mouse, click the right button?! and the "keyboard menu" will > appear. > > Its Disk Utilities ->format - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 10:16:17 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:16:10 -0400 Received: from web11004.mail.yahoo.com ([216.136.131.54]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193708-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:16:04 -0400 Message-ID: <20010614141559.68320.qmail@web11004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.22.158.4] by web11004.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 07:15:59 PDT Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:15:59 -0400 From: omz Reply-To: omz23@airmail.net Subject: Re: sgroup Quick Questions on the S-760 (I hope) To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca In-Reply-To: <3B28C7B4.D0CF57EC@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --- Jesse Segovia wrote: > Thanks a lot. I'm sure I tried the right-mouse button but maybe I > highlighted the wrong thing; I'll give it another try tonight. > > On saving to disk, I'm not sure it's a formatting problem; it seems > the > sampler doesn't know exactly what to save to the disk. Have you selected the patch/partial/performance that you are trying to save by clicking on it (a check mark will appear out to the left side of the name)? ===== ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 12:35:41 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:35:34 -0400 Received: from mento.n5.com.jm ([196.32.0.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:35:19 -0400 Received: from kin0243.n5.com.jm (kin0243.n5.com.jm [196.32.6.83]) by mento.n5.com.jm (NTMail 5.06.0014/NU4618.00.86209735) with ESMTP id gggldbaa for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:17:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <415C917D807AD411B72C00805FF7330B62AFE9@mailhost.argonaut.com> References: <415C917D807AD411B72C00805FF7330B62AFE9@mailhost.argonaut.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:37:41 -0400 To: Sampler Group From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > > >By the way, Roland told me they have discontinued all the sampler CDs in >their S-700 series library like Keyboards of the 60s and 70s and the >orchestral stuff. This doesn't make sense to me since their newer sound >modules can read these CDs and they're still listed on their web site; >plus it seems like you can still buy them through ilio or other similar >sites. > >But if they ARE discontinued, isn't it completely legal for us to copy >and swap these CDs (I know, I should have asked Roland)? > >Jesse > they have just repackaged them... rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 12:37:22 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:37:14 -0400 Received: from mento.n5.com.jm ([196.32.0.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:37:08 -0400 Received: from kin0243.n5.com.jm (kin0243.n5.com.jm [196.32.6.83]) by mento.n5.com.jm (NTMail 5.06.0014/NU4618.00.86209735) with ESMTP id okgldbaa for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:19:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B28C427.DCBCBE67@mindspring.com> References: <3B28C427.DCBCBE67@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:39:12 -0400 To: Jesse Segovia , Sampler Group From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Quick Questions on the S-760 (I hope) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 10:03 am -0400 14/6/2001, Jesse Segovia wrote: >I don't have the manual for my S-760 yet but in the meantime I have two >of what I hope are very simple questions (and yes, I've read everything >that's available on the Roland web site). > >1) How do I name (or rename) samples, partials, patches etc? I put the >cursor in the name field but I can't seem to enter or change any of the >characters. > >2) Once I have some of my own stuff in the sampler, how do I save it? >I've been doing a little bit of sampling, including setting up the >patches and a performance, but when I go to Disk Save I get an error >trying to save. It seems I have to do something to the volume to make >it ready to save to disk but I can't figure it out. > >Jesse > jesse you are using a mouse and monitor right? as you put the mouse over the name field. on the top right hand of you screen it tells you what the left and the right mouse buttons do..I think you use the rigth one to name them. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 13:14:33 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:14:23 -0400 Received: from siaag1ac.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:14:17 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id NAA06417 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:13:37 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup s760 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200106141313_MC3-D5E2-43D4@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk 1. To name/rename, you right click on the small box to the left of the name. 2. To save a new volume, Under system, choose volume id. It must have a name to save a volume. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 15:57:36 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:57:28 -0400 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:57:22 -0400 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net (smui03.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.22]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12184 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:57:17 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id PAA0000001742; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:57:13 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Hard Drives for the S-760? Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 207.121.233.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk 'Sorry I'm asking so many questions about the 760, but I guess it is kinda' keeping the list going. 8-) What kind of hard drives are the S-760 owners on this list using? The Roland web site only lists makers such as Syquest and Maxtor - it doesn't list any particular models. I guess I'm going to have to try to find older, Mac-compatible SCSI units that aren't much bigger than 600Mb, right? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 16:31:31 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:31:23 -0400 Received: from mento.n5.com.jm ([196.32.0.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:31:17 -0400 Received: from kin0367.n5.com.jm (kin0367.n5.com.jm [196.32.6.179]) by mento.n5.com.jm (NTMail 5.06.0014/NU4618.00.86209735) with ESMTP id jpsldbaa for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:14:04 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:33:40 -0400 To: jsegovia@mindspring.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: Re: sgroup Hard Drives for the S-760? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 3:57 pm -0400 14/6/2001, jsegovia@mindspring.com wrote: >'Sorry I'm asking so many questions about the 760, but I guess it is >kinda' keeping the list going. 8-) > >What kind of hard drives are the S-760 owners on this list using? >The Roland web site only lists makers such as Syquest and Maxtor - >it doesn't list any particular models. I guess I'm going to have to >try to find older, Mac-compatible SCSI units that aren't much bigger >than 600Mb, right? > >Jesse > hi again jesse, I have used quantum,seagates and ibm with nary a problem. have always found the ibm the quietest of the lots. rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 16:47:54 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:47:46 -0400 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17634>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:47:36 -0400 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net (smui03.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.22]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21881 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:47:30 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id QAA0000004839; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:47:30 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Converting WAV Files to Roland Format Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 207.121.233.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Continuing my search for a reliable and quick way to transfer wav. files to Roland format, I downloaded a demo of Recycle from the bitheadz web site. The demo version won't let you work with any new samples but it does allow you to transmit four demo samples to your sampler (including the S-760) via MIDI. Some samplers are supported via SCSI transfer which is much faster but the S-760, as an older sampler, has been de-supported 8-(. Anyway, it took sixty times longer than the sample length itself to transmit a wav. file to the sampler via MIDI. So sending a 5.5 second sample took five and a half minutes. So it looks like no-go for a quick conversion to the sampler. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 17:18:55 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-29063>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:18:45 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (kk-temp1.omp.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.31.120]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:18:34 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5ELIWD06425 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:18:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-17633>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:17:08 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14404; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjs600e (sjs600e.portal.com [10.200.0.21] (may be forged)) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04213; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: "'Richard Sven Patterson'" , "Sampler Group" Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:15:50 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Repackaged them as what? > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Sven Patterson [mailto:rsp@richardsven.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:38 AM > To: Sampler Group > Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs > > > > > > > >By the way, Roland told me they have discontinued all the > sampler CDs in > >their S-700 series library like Keyboards of the 60s and 70s and the > >orchestral stuff. This doesn't make sense to me since their > newer sound > >modules can read these CDs and they're still listed on their > web site; > >plus it seems like you can still buy them through ilio or > other similar > >sites. > > > >But if they ARE discontinued, isn't it completely legal for > us to copy > >and swap these CDs (I know, I should have asked Roland)? > > > >Jesse > > > > > they have just repackaged them... > > rsp > -- > richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com > 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice > 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" > > > Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 17:25:09 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193710-29063>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:24:59 -0400 Received: from mento.n5.com.jm ([196.32.0.3]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193709-29063>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:24:53 -0400 Received: from kin0367.n5.com.jm (kin0367.n5.com.jm [196.32.6.179]) by mento.n5.com.jm (NTMail 5.06.0014/NU4618.00.86209735) with ESMTP id ejvldbaa for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:07:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rsp//richardsven.com@pop3.postoffice.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:27:28 -0400 To: , "Sampler Group" From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: RE: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1219568441==_ma============" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk --============_-1219568441==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 2:15 pm -0700 14/6/2001, Steve Schow wrote: >Repackaged them as what? > the 'new' L-CD-SOUND LIBRARIES * L-CDX SERIES SAMPLE CD-ROM LIBRARY FOR XV-5080, S-700 SERIES AND SP-700 * L-CDX-01 Rhythm Section Instruments * L-CDX-02 Keyboard Instruments * L-CDX-03 Brass and Woodwinds (2 Disc Set) * L-CDX-04 Strings and Orchestral Percussion (2 Disc Set) X cd-roms from: http://www.rolandus.com/PRODUCTS/MI/MI.HTM rsp -- richard sven patterson rsp@richardsven.com 876-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 876-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" Please note NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: rsp@richardsven.com --============_-1219568441==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" RE: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs
At 2:15 pm -0700 14/6/2001, Steve Schow wrote:
Repackaged them as what?


the 'new' L-CD-SOUND LIBRARIES

* L-CDX SERIES SAMPLE CD-ROM LIBRARY FOR XV-5080, S-700 SERIES AND SP-700
*        L-CDX-01 Rhythm Section Instruments
*    L-CDX-02 Keyboard Instruments
*  L-CDX-03 Brass and Woodwinds (2 Disc Set)
*      L-CDX-04 Strings and Orchestral Percussion (2 Disc Set)
X cd-roms

from: http://www.rolandus.com/PRODUCTS/MI/MI.HTM


rsp
--============_-1219568441==_ma============-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 17:25:12 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-29063>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:24:59 -0400 Received: from siaag1ab.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.4]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-29063>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:24:47 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1ab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id RAA28710 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:24:23 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup Hard Drives for the S-760? To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200106141724_MC3-D5C6-B932@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Most folks probably use a ZIP or JAZ. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 18:00:39 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-14461>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:00:31 -0400 Received: from spdmgaaf.compuserve.com (ds-img-6.compuserve.com [149.174.206.139]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-14461>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:00:21 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id SAA20922 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 18:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:59:45 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup S-760 Sample Disks and CDs To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200106141800_MC3-D5DC-68DA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > >By the way, Roland told me they have discontinued all the = > sampler CDs in > >their S-700 series library like Keyboards of the 60s and 70s and the > >orchestral stuff. This doesn't make sense to me since their = Some of these are still in stock being closed at cheaply at west la music= . = www.westlamusic.com |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 14 21:23:02 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-14461>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:22:56 -0400 Received: from covert.black-ring.iadfw.net ([209.196.123.142]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193708-14461>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:22:45 -0400 Received: from [10.31.73.2] from [209.196.98.74] by covert.black-ring.iadfw.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.49) with esmtp for sender: id ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 20:23:11 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.airmail.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:22:12 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: Re: sgroup Converting WAV Files to Roland Format Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Continuing my search for a reliable and quick way to transfer wav. >files to Roland format, I downloaded a demo of Recycle from the >bitheadz web site. Some samplers are supported via SCSI transfer >which is much faster but the S-760, as an older sampler, has been >de-supported 8-(. If you get version 1.5 or 1.7 of Recycle, they both fully support the 760. I used SCSI transfers from my mac to the 760 for a while. It was fast, but it also locked up my mac a lot. Now I usually just sample digitally out of my mac with the audiomedia III card in real time. But I still use Recycle to chop up samples and patch them out to the 760 - I just set it to transfer via midi and go have a beer :o) >Anyway, it took sixty times longer than the sample length itself to >transmit a wav. file to the sampler via MIDI. So sending a 5.5 >second sample took five and a half minutes. > >So it looks like no-go for a quick conversion to the sampler. Why don't you just buy the cheapest sound card you can find that has a S/PDIF in/out and transfer it digitally to the 760 in real time? -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 15 01:44:08 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-14049>; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:43:58 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.100.243.203.on.wave.home.com [24.100.243.203]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-14049>; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:43:57 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5F5ho112333 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:43:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail.hotkey.net.au ([202.138.0.33]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-29063>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:07:13 -0400 Received: from voytek (unknown [202.138.0.30]) by mail.hotkey.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4514757DEE; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:07:02 +1000 (EST) Received: from voytekl by voytek with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15Ajy3-0004He-00; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:08:15 +1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: voytek lapinski To: Jesse Segovia Subject: Re: sgroup CD-ROM drive for the S-760 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:08:14 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <3B28C0E6.BA4C3C33@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <3B28C0E6.BA4C3C33@mindspring.com> Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061513081407.30736@voytek> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Thursday 14 June 2001 23:49, you wrote: > So on ebay, I finally found a CD-ROM drive, a Plextor 43CS, that's on > the S-760 supported list on the Roland web site. I talked to Roland > sampler support and they said everything on the list of supported drives > is an external drive so go ahead and buy it, but the seller responded to > me today that it's an internal drive. > > I've never tried to use an internal drive outside of a PC; I'm sure I'd > need a transformer to go from the wall to that funny four-pin power > connection PC internals use and I might have a problem going from the > CD's internal data connection to the 760's 25 pin SCSI connection. > > I even went to my local CompUSA to try to get a brand new drive and they > no longer sell SCSI CD-ROM drives for the Mac. A SCSI CD-ROM drive is a SCSI CD-ROM drive, mac or otherwise. Theres probably stacks still around somewhere. Early CDROMs were all SCSI and you'll get em cheap cause they're crap for use in computers (like 1x or 2x speed kind of thing) but work fine for loading samples off. I'm using I think a trantor one which came bundled with a pro audio spectrum sound card as a 'multimedia' pack, back when it was still cool to call things that in the early 90s sometime which was lying around unused in my parents house, in an external drive chassis I got for free off a university (they had mounds of them cause they used em with some syquest 50meg removable rubbish and didn't need them anymore). Total price $0 and it works great. Internal SCSI ports look different to the one on the s760, but they're actually the same. You just need an adaptor of the appropriate type (probably 50pin internal SCSI to 50pin external SCSI), but some chassises (whats the plural of that? thats not right surely) have them built in. -- voytek lapinski voytekl@freeshell.org irgulight tunes @ http://irgulight.n3.net/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 15 01:44:19 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193710-14049>; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:44:12 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.100.243.203.on.wave.home.com [24.100.243.203]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-14049>; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:44:01 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5F5hwo12338 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:43:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail.hotkey.net.au ([202.138.0.33]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-29063>; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:15:02 -0400 Received: from voytek (unknown [202.138.0.30]) by mail.hotkey.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274C257DFE; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:15:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from voytekl by voytek with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15Ak5k-0004Hg-00; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:16:12 +1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Voytek Lapinski Organization: Hotkey Internet Services To: jsegovia@mindspring.com Subject: Re: sgroup Converting WAV Files to Roland Format Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:16:12 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: Cc: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061513161208.30736@voytek> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk On Friday 15 June 2001 06:47, you wrote: > Continuing my search for a reliable and quick way to transfer wav. files to > Roland format, I downloaded a demo of Recycle from the bitheadz web site. > The demo version won't let you work with any new samples but it does allow > you to transmit four demo samples to your sampler (including the S-760) via > MIDI. Some samplers are supported via SCSI transfer which is much faster > but the S-760, as an older sampler, has been de-supported 8-(. > > Anyway, it took sixty times longer than the sample length itself to > transmit a wav. file to the sampler via MIDI. So sending a 5.5 second > sample took five and a half minutes. > > So it looks like no-go for a quick conversion to the sampler. Soundforge does it too. It's a pain in the arse cause it's slow but it works. They end up with bad loop points (won't play) and rubbish at the end of the sample. You just have to get the length in samples from soundforge, and then truncate the sample in the s760 to the right length, which sets sensible loop points (ie no loop, just plays through) as well. Oh yeah, and if it's stereo you have to send each channel seperately. It does take a while but like omz said, it gives you a good chance to do something else for a while and rest your head. -- Voytek Lapinski voytekl@hotkey.net.au Software Engineer Hotkey Internet ph: 03 9923 3656 mob: 0427 469 891 fax: 03 9923 3388 www.hotkey.net.au - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 15 01:56:33 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193711-14050>; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:56:26 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.100.243.203.on.wave.home.com [24.100.243.203]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193710-14050>; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:56:15 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5F5uAG12437 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:56:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mail.hotkey.net.au ([202.138.0.33]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193710-14050>; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:54:00 -0400 Received: from voytek (unknown [202.138.0.30]) by mail.hotkey.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94F557E7C for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:53:56 +1000 (EST) Received: from voytekl by voytek with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15AmZY-0004RG-00 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:55:08 +1000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: voytek lapinski To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Fwd: Re: sgroup Converting WAV Files to Roland Format Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 01:55:07 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061515550704.16480@voytek> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk -- Voytek Lapinski voytekl@hotkey.net.au Software Engineer Hotkey Internet ph: 03 9923 3656 mob: 0427 469 891 fax: 03 9923 3388 www.hotkey.net.au work sig... how embarassing.. teach me to read email at work i guess... -- voytek lapinski voytekl@freeshell.org irgulight tunes @ http://irgulight.n3.net/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jun 17 03:27:37 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-21842>; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 03:27:29 -0400 Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-21842>; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 03:27:23 -0400 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.2-X An9h) with ESMTP; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:27:03 +0200 Received: by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:27:03 +0200 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6016C73C2@hati.kapsch.co.at> From: Ullrich Peter To: 'voytek lapinski ' , 'Jesse Segovia ' CC: "'sgroup@lists.uunet.ca '" Subject: RE: sgroup CD-ROM drive for the S-760 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 03:27:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hallo! >A SCSI CD-ROM drive is a SCSI CD-ROM drive, mac or otherwise. Theres >probably stacks still around somewhere. Early CDROMs were all SCSI and >you'll get em cheap cause they're crap for use in computers (like 1x or 2x >speed kind of thing) but work fine for loading samples off. I'm using I >think a trantor one ... The problem with the CDROM drives for Roland samplers is that they need another sector size as the PC cdrom drives. VAX, Unix and maybe MAC drives have the correct sector size but normally pc drives not. But some drives have a jumper on the rear side to select the sector size! I think some Plextor drives have this jumper! Ciao Peter http://www.ullrich.at.tt - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jun 17 09:44:32 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-21843>; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:44:23 -0400 Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-21843>; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:44:13 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive36s.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.12.220]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18465 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B2CB5EE.58BEA1F0@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:51:42 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup CD-ROM drive for the S-760 References: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6016C73C2@hati.kapsch.co.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, I went to ebay and searched for each and every CD-ROM drive listed in the Roland compatibility page. Here's the only thing I found that looks like an external drive. Does anyone have any experience with this unit? http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&query=DRM-604X It's a six-disk CD-ROM changer. I called Roland support and asked how this thing works with the S-760 since there doesn't seem to be a disc change button on the unit itself. The Roland rep guesses each CD-ROM in the magazine gets its own SCSI ID and so when the 760 scans SCSI devices, it finds six different CD-ROM 'drives' with what ever sound CD you've inserted into each slot at each different ID. So from the disk load screen he guesses you select whichever sample disk you want and load your sounds. The question I have is if the drive takes up six SCSI IDs and the 760 takes up another, that still leaves me one other other SCSI device to install a hard drive or other SCSI device, since SCSI has 8 different IDs, 0 through 7, right? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jun 17 12:28:26 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-21842>; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:28:17 -0400 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-21842>; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:28:11 -0400 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34BCBCD3 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tourian (vq126.atm01.sea.blarg.net [206.124.140.126] (may be forged)) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA29100 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:28:03 -0700 Message-Id: <200106171628.JAA29100@thig.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:23:37 -0400 To: "'sgroup@lists.uunet.ca '" From: Ben Lincoln Subject: RE: sgroup CD-ROM drive for the S-760 In-Reply-To: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6016C73C2@hati.kapsch.co.at > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 03:27 AM 6/17/01 -0400, Ullrich Peter wrote: >The problem with the CDROM drives for Roland samplers is that they need another >sector size as the PC cdrom drives. VAX, Unix and maybe MAC drives have the >correct sector size but normally pc drives not. Maybe someone more technical can correct me on this, but I've used "Mac" SCSI CD-ROM drives on a PC, and vice versa. I was under the impression it was an industry standard. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jun 17 18:57:59 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-21843>; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:57:51 -0400 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-21843>; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:57:47 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive362.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.12.194]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24124 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B2D37AA.F7BB7E53@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 19:05:14 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sampler Group Subject: Re: sgroup CD-ROM drive for the S-760 References: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6016C73C2@hati.kapsch.co.at> <3B2CB5EE.58BEA1F0@mindspring.com> <00bf01c0f73f$2cfc33a0$0200a8c0@noos.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk yael wrote: > Why don't u'r looking for an APPLE CD300 or CD600 ? cheap....if u can found > 1 :o) Because there are no Mac CD-ROM drives listed in the Roland compatibility guide: http://www.rolandus.com/support/docs/supnotes/dscomp2.htm On ebay, I did find some Apple external SCSI CD-ROM drives, like the 300e and the 600e. Are these the ones you're talking about? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jun 20 22:23:33 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9044>; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:23:28 -0400 Received: from smtp-server2.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server2.cfl.rr.com [65.32.2.69]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9044>; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:23:13 -0400 Received: from tampabay.rr.com (242667hfc197.tampabay.rr.com [24.26.67.197]) by smtp-server2.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5L2N2v10748 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B315C2A.2C07CB1A@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:30:02 -0400 From: kevin kelley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup S-750 sample convert program Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I have tried several programs to download and convert S series samples not one appears to work well. After writing to a diskette my sampler is unable to read these disks. It states not sound disk and will not load .Does anyone know of an application that actually works well ? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Wed Jun 20 22:51:00 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9044>; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:50:53 -0400 Received: from smtp-server2.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server2.cfl.rr.com [65.32.2.69]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9044>; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:50:47 -0400 Received: from tampabay.rr.com (242667hfc197.tampabay.rr.com [24.26.67.197]) by smtp-server2.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5L2oiv00016 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B3162A9.A2AFF266@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:57:45 -0400 From: kevin kelley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Feedback on S series sampler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk When I power up one of My S-750's and then turn the volume knob up I returns a constant Phasing feedback sound . Has anyone ever experienced this or is this and actual problem that would require A repair shop to look at ? no other problems occur with this unit and it is not consistent It appears to not occur is the unit has been powered off for a while . Just wondering if anyone else ever experienced this and if so what resolved the problem for them . Thanks Xirin6 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 21 17:33:23 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-13393>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:33:19 -0400 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-13393>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:33:03 -0400 Received: from smui04.slb.mindspring.net (smui04.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.26]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18302 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:33:01 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui04.slb.mindspring.net id RAA0000030502; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:33:00 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Bad Double-density Floppies Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.11.241 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk So I was making some disk images of some of my favorite samples for the S-550, a set of twelve diskettes from Voice Crystals. They're very nice synth stacks samples; some of them are pretty much the same as sounds they programmed for the Roland D-50, like a patch called 'Synchoirium.' Using sdisk, I made images of each of the files, except for two of them which failed! I thought that was it; I'd lost those two diskettes since I had no other back-up. Fortunately, though, the S-550 itself was able to load one of the bad diskettes and I used it to make a good floppy. The 550 couldn't read the other bad disk, but oddly enough another PC, my laptop, was able to read it; sdisk made a good image and I used that to copy out to another disk. So the moral of the story is, two failures out of twelve disks doesn't speak too highly of the integrity of the 550 sample disks I've been storing, and even if you find a bad diskette, try it over and over again until hopefully you find a drive that can read it. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 21 20:13:07 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-13394>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:12:58 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.100.243.203.on.wave.home.com [24.100.243.203]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-13394>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:12:51 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5M0CjR01893 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:12:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.36]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-13393>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:53:18 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.168]) by mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010621215314.DWOD2093.mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 21:53:14 +0000 Message-ID: <001f01c0fa9c$97a9be60$a852580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Welcome me to your list Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:53:22 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0FA7B.0FDF7CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0FA7B.0FDF7CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all, My name is EPU. I just got a Roland S750 sampler w/18 MB. I'll be here = from time to time to ask questions and to bring my knowledge and = expertise to this list. Thanks, The Infamous EPU. :D ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0FA7B.0FDF7CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey all,
 
My name is EPU. I just = got a=20 Roland S750 sampler w/18 MB. I'll be here from time to time to ask = questions and=20 to bring my knowledge and expertise to this list.
 
Thanks,
The Infamous EPU. = :D
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0FA7B.0FDF7CC0-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 21 20:13:47 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193708-13394>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:13:37 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.100.243.203.on.wave.home.com [24.100.243.203]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193709-13394>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:13:31 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5M0DNu02051 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:13:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from nova.unix.portal.com ([156.151.32.103]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-13394>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:35:52 -0400 Received: from imp.portal.com (imp.portal.com [156.151.32.82]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04313; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjs600e (sjs600e.portal.com [10.200.0.37] (may be forged)) by imp.portal.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA16249; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Steve Schow" To: , Subject: RE: sgroup Bad Double-density Floppies Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:35:06 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Its not actually the s-550 that is the problem most likely. Floppies are inherently this way to begin with. And often times if a floppy is written by a PC or sampler or other hardware device and its write heads are out of alignment, then other floppy drives will have problems reading it, even if it reads back fine on the drive that wrote it. Moral of the story, move your stuff to other media as soon as you can. -steve > -----Original Message----- > From: jsegovia@mindspring.com [mailto:jsegovia@mindspring.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:33 PM > To: sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca > Subject: sgroup Bad Double-density Floppies > > > So I was making some disk images of some of my favorite > samples for the S-550, a set of twelve diskettes from Voice > Crystals. They're very nice synth stacks samples; some of > them are pretty much the same as sounds they programmed for > the Roland D-50, like a patch called 'Synchoirium.' > > Using sdisk, I made images of each of the files, except for > two of them which failed! I thought that was it; I'd lost > those two diskettes since I had no other back-up. > Fortunately, though, the S-550 itself was able to load one of > the bad diskettes and I used it to make a good floppy. The > 550 couldn't read the other bad disk, but oddly enough > another PC, my laptop, was able to read it; sdisk made a good > image and I used that to copy out to another disk. > > So the moral of the story is, two failures out of twelve > disks doesn't speak too highly of the integrity of the 550 > sample disks I've been storing, and even if you find a bad > diskette, try it over and over again until hopefully you find > a drive that can read it. > > Jesse > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca > and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Thu Jun 21 20:57:54 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-13393>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:57:48 -0400 Received: from lists.blarg.net ([206.124.128.17]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-13393>; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:57:38 -0400 Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F092CBCD8 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tourian (vq126.atm01.sea.blarg.net [206.124.140.126] (may be forged)) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA13852 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:57:29 -0700 Message-Id: <200106220057.RAA13852@thig.blarg.net> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:57:28 -0400 To: From: Ben Lincoln Subject: RE: sgroup Bad Double-density Floppies In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 05:35 PM 6/21/01 -0400, Steve Schow wrote: >Moral of the story, move your stuff to other media as soon as you can. Totally. Most DD disks are getting pretty long in the tooth, definitely past their intended lifespan. When I picked up my S-330 it came with about 150 disks, a mix of Roland and custom-sampled, and my second priority after playing with my new toy was to back all of them up as images to CD-R. Unfortunately, something like 10 of them (incidentally all of which were really HD disks with tape over the hole) were unreadable by sdisk OR the S-330. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 22 08:14:13 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-22910>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:14:05 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.100.243.203.on.wave.home.com [24.100.243.203]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-22910>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:14:01 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5MCDuh13192 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 08:13:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.42]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-22911>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:40:42 -0400 Received: from planetb ([213.104.147.229]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010622094037.OIXR294.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@planetb> for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:40:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c0faff$00fc19a0$e59368d5@planetb> From: "Colin & Anne" To: Subject: sgroup DR550MkII Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 05:37:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0FB07.6207E000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0FB07.6207E000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does any body know where i can get a copy of them manual for a boss = DR550MkII Dr. Rhythm as i can't find 1 any where.=20 Neil Randall (O_Chez@Yahoo.co.uk) Thanx. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0FB07.6207E000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does any body know where i can get a = copy of them=20 manual for a boss DR550MkII Dr. Rhythm as i can't find 1 any where.=20
Neil Randall
(O_Chez@Yahoo.co.uk)
Thanx.
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0FB07.6207E000-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 22 09:18:10 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-22911>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:18:02 -0400 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-22911>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:17:51 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive2rf.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.11.111]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26867; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B334748.C582DA97@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:25:28 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Colin & Anne CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup DR550MkII References: <000a01c0faff$00fc19a0$e59368d5@planetb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Roland still sells lots of their old manuals. For example, the S-760 manuals go for $30. You should give them a call and see if they still have the one you're looking for. Jesse > Colin & Anne wrote: > > Does any body know where i can get a copy of them manual for a boss DR550MkII Dr. Rhythm as i can't find 1 any where. > Neil Randall > (O_Chez@Yahoo.co.uk) > Thanx. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 22 09:19:56 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193710-22911>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:19:48 -0400 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193709-22911>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:19:38 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive2rf.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.11.111]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15330; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B3347A8.7979C8F9@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:27:04 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Harold Everton, Jr." CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Welcome me to your list References: <001f01c0fa9c$97a9be60$a852580c@epu1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Welcome to the list! What will you do with your sampler? Home studio, professional stuff, etc? Jesse > "Harold Everton, Jr." wrote: > > Hey all, > > My name is EPU. I just got a Roland S750 sampler w/18 MB. I'll be here > from time to time to ask questions and to bring my knowledge and > expertise to this list. > > Thanks, > The Infamous EPU. :D - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 22 09:23:39 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193710-22911>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:23:29 -0400 Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.246]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-22910>; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:23:25 -0400 Received: from mindspring.com (user-2ive2rf.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.11.111]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11473; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B334896.F410603A@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:31:02 -0400 From: Jesse Segovia Organization: Elanza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,ko,zh MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sjs@bstage.com CC: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Bad Double-density Floppies References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Steve Schow wrote: > > Moral of the story, move your stuff to other media as soon as you can. Yes, that's more or less what I meant. Two out of twelve is a cause for concern regardless of what's wrong. I'm now trying to make sdisk copies of everything I have and then I'll back those up to data CD. I don't have the CD player for the S-550 so there's not much I can do there but if I can at least make new DS/DD disks whenever the old ones go bad I'm better off than I was before. BTW, has anyone used sdisk to make floppies from all the images on our web site? The Roland sound library disks mostly work for my but most of the other ones put up there by list members fail for me. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sat Jun 23 10:22:09 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-28654>; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:22:00 -0400 Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.57]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-28655>; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:21:57 -0400 Received: from smui04.slb.mindspring.net (smui04.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.26]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14865 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:21:51 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui04.slb.mindspring.net id KAA0000022937; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 10:21:51 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Roland SV-SP70-01 Preview Disk CD-ROM Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 165.247.8.247 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Well, I just got the Roland Preview CD for the S700 series samplers from Roland. Since it only costs $15 and it's still available from Roland, I thought I'd tell everybody about it. As I guessed, it does contain samples from Roland's library of CDs for the S700 series samplers (including seom Roland CDs I've never heard of). BUT, it also contains samples from commercial 3rd party CDs which were available back in the day. I don't think many of these CDs are still around, at least in Roland format. The Preview CD contains examples from all these CDs: Roland Rhythm Section Vol. 1 & 2 Orchestral Family Vol 1, 2 & 3 Modern Sonics Vol. 1 World Music Vol. 1 3rd Party Drumscapes (Northstar) Orchestral Strings (Prosonus) Foundations (Club 50) Sonic Images (Q Up Arts) Composers Collection (Producers Sound Effects Library) Dance/Industrial (East/West) Bob Clearmountain Drums (East/West) Denny Jaeger Master Violin Library (East/West) Rhythm of Life (AMG) Funky Drums from Hell (AMG) I'm expecting my Apple 600e CD-ROM drive next week so I still can't hear these samples but I'm REALLY looking forward to it. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Sun Jun 24 23:13:11 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193714-20895>; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:13:04 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.100.243.203.on.wave.home.com [24.100.243.203]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193713-20895>; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:12:54 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5P3Cmi41196 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 23:12:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.47]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-28654>; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:03:38 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.81.228]) by mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010623170334.MEVV13460.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 17:03:34 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01c0fc06$71a7ce80$e451580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Hi Roland S Users! Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 13:02:39 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0FBE4.C7F1C600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0FBE4.C7F1C600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys, Well, I got my Roland S750 sampler off of ebay recently. I do music = production. I have a small production company. I play trumpet, piano, = drums, sing and will soon play guitar. I've had my Roland XP60 for a = long time and wanted some better, more realistic sounds. The expansion = boards are great, but for some reasons, I've always ignored samplers = thinking they were only good for loops. Not that I don't like loops, I'm = just an original artist who writes everything from scratch. I then started reading a lot about samplers in Keyboard magazine. = Although so many new sampler came out since then, everyone kept = referring back to the Roland S series. Now I got the Roland S750 = thinking they (S750/770) were better than the S760. I think I may sell = my Roland S750 to get a S760 sooner or later. I haven't even received my = Roland S750, but am excited. I'm just worried about the lack or RAM. Is the Roland S750/770 compatible with Akai sound libraries? Also, why = did Roland use a proprietary disk OS? Why not MS-DOS? Also, why are the = Roland S750/770s only expandable to 18MB? Why not 32MB like the S760? = I'm very curious to hear about your experiences with the Roland S series = of samplers (preferably the S7xx users). Do you love them? Have you ever = thought about dumping them for the newer Akais and E-mus? How is the = ease of use factor?=20 Thanks for welcoming me, Harold P.S. - I do it all: Classical, Jazz, Rock, Hip-Hop, R&B and a lot more! Check out my unfinished production company's site at: = www.evertonrecords.com ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0FBE4.C7F1C600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey guys,
 
Well, I got my Roland S750 sampler off = of ebay=20 recently. I do music production. I have a small production company. I = play=20 trumpet, piano, drums, sing and will soon play guitar. I've had my = Roland XP60=20 for a long time and wanted some better, more realistic sounds. The = expansion=20 boards are great, but for some reasons, I've always ignored samplers = thinking=20 they were only good for loops. Not that I don't like loops, I'm just an = original=20 artist who writes everything from scratch.
 
I then started reading a lot about = samplers in=20 Keyboard magazine. Although so many new sampler came out since then, = everyone=20 kept referring back to the Roland S series. Now I got the Roland S750 = thinking=20 they (S750/770) were better than the S760. I think I may sell my Roland = S750 to=20 get a S760 sooner or later. I haven't even received my Roland S750, but = am=20 excited. I'm just worried about the lack or RAM.
 
Is the Roland S750/770 compatible with = Akai sound=20 libraries? Also, why did Roland use a proprietary disk OS? Why not = MS-DOS? Also,=20 why are the Roland S750/770s only expandable to 18MB? Why not 32MB like = the=20 S760? I'm very curious to hear about your experiences with the Roland S = series=20 of samplers (preferably the S7xx users). Do you love them? Have you ever = thought=20 about dumping them for the newer Akais and E-mus? How is the ease of use = factor?=20
 
Thanks for welcoming me,
Harold
 
P.S. - I do it all: Classical, Jazz, = Rock, Hip-Hop,=20 R&B and a lot more!
 
Check out my unfinished production = company's site=20 at: www.evertonrecords.com<= /DIV>
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0FBE4.C7F1C600-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jun 25 09:52:07 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-16685>; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:52:02 -0400 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-16685>; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:51:52 -0400 Received: from smui02.slb.mindspring.net (smui02.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.25]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07179 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:51:51 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui02.slb.mindspring.net id JAA0000010476; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:51:51 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Hi Roland S Users! Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 207.121.233.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Welcome to the list. And if you're serious about getting an S-760, let me know. I know a source who's selling some loaded 760s for a very low price. > Not that I don't like loops, I'm just an original > artist who writes everything from scratch. Yeah, I still haven't gotten into loops yet. There's tons of popular music these days, in virtually all styles, being made with loops, but I'd rather put down my own parts and vary each part with each verse. > Also, why did Roland use a proprietary disk OS? Why not MS-DOS? I don't know why, but they were using it every since they started making samplers. The S-50 keyboard, the S-550 and S-330 rackmounts, and the W-30 workstation all used basically the same Roland format and architecture (I'm not sure how the S-10 keyboard fit in but it appeared to be similar). The S-700 series samplers built on that - they can read the 12-bit S-50/550/330 format disks but they have their own 16-bit format the older samplers can't read. > I'm very curious to hear about your experiences with the Roland S series > of samplers (preferably the S7xx users). I got my S-760 very recently and I haven't done as much with it as I'd like, but I got my S-550 sampler pretty much when they were first released in the late '80s. I love it; to my ears it always sounded so much better than the other comparable samplers of the day like the Emax. The 550 sounds were always very alive and bright, even mixed in with synths like the D-50 or Yamaha DX series. I never really thought about any other type of synth because I got into the Roland brand very early (my first synth was a MIDI-enabled Jupiter 6) and stuck with them, so I was very comfortable with all the Roland gear, and it all still sounds good. Hey, nice web site. Let us know when it's complete and when there are some mp3s for download. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jun 25 10:02:45 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193710-16685>; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:02:36 -0400 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193709-16685>; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:02:26 -0400 Received: from smui02.slb.mindspring.net (smui02.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.25]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06266 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:02:21 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui02.slb.mindspring.net id KAA0000012402; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:02:21 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Double-side, Double-density Disks, Take 2 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 207.121.233.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Remembering the failure rate I experienced with the Voice Crystals disks (three out of twelve), I started backing up all my S-550 floppy disks over the weekend. I still got some bad disks but the ratio was much better. Amongst the first 150-odd disks, I only found three bad floppies. I was able to replace two of them from our web site and the third, my laptop was able to read (even though the 550 couldn't) and create a good sdisk image. Once I've got all the sdisk images complete I'll burn a couple of CDs and have my safe back-up. Has anyone seen the SCSI interface for the S-550 recently, and if so, how much did it cost? Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jun 25 17:17:18 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-16684>; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:17:08 -0400 Received: from spdmgaaa.compuserve.com (ds-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.206.134]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-16685>; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:17:05 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id RAA05553 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:16:21 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup s760 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200106251716_MC3-D705-9F78@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Welcome to the list. And if you're serious about getting an S-760, let= me >know. I know a source who's selling some loaded 760s for a very low price. The 760 has only 4 audio outputs unless you add on D/A converters. The 75= 0 has 8 outs and a larger display. To me, the 750 and 770 are better in that regard. The 760 has more memory and slightly better OS, but is harder to navigate= . |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Mon Jun 25 23:59:35 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9912>; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:59:30 -0400 Received: from gc0.generalconcepts.com (24.100.243.203.on.wave.home.com [24.100.243.203]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9912>; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:59:14 -0400 Received: (from jsellens@localhost) by gc0.generalconcepts.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f5Q3xCg08835 for sgroup@lists.uunet.ca; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:59:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jsellens) Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.48]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-16685>; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:16:17 -0400 Received: from epu1 ([12.88.82.13]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010625211614.XMSC1777.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@epu1> for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:16:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000d01c0fdbc$0f0775c0$0d52580c@epu1> From: "Harold Everton, Jr." To: Subject: sgroup Hey All. Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:16:09 -0400 Organization: Everton Records, Div. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0FD9A.871D2900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0FD9A.871D2900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got my Roland S750 sampler. Damn! This bitch is freakin' huge. I = don't mind the rack space, but why the hell does Roland make the depth = of their gear so freakin long?! Anyway, there has got to be some way to = extend the memory of the Roland S750 beyond 18
I just got my Roland S750 sampler. = Damn! This bitch=20 is freakin' huge. I don't mind the rack space, but why the hell does = Roland make=20 the depth of their gear so freakin long?! Anyway, there has got to be = some way=20 to extend the memory of the Roland S750 beyond 18<B. I heard that = somewhere=20 in England they made a souped up RAS board that could support up to = 64MB. Is=20 this true?
 
Thanks,
Harold
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0FD9A.871D2900-- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jun 26 01:42:48 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:42:42 -0400 Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.2]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:42:32 -0400 Received: from dumbo.kapsch.co.at (148.198.9.36) by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V5.2-X An9h) with ESMTP for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:42:23 +0200 Received: by dumbo.kapsch.co.at with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:42:23 +0200 Message-ID: <0931E18C3147D411A0B900A0C9CC39D6016C7491@hati.kapsch.co.at> From: Ullrich Peter To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup RC100 Remote control for S550 on Ebay Germany!!! Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 01:42:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk There is one RC100 remote control on http://www.ebay.de! Maybe you are interested! It works with the S330, S550 and also the S7XX samplers! Direct links: http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1441506494 (now at 25.- DM / about 11$) Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto:ullrich@kapsch.net Homepage: www.ullrich.at.tt , http://come.to/ullrich http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ .oooO Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician ( ) Oooo. KAPSCH AG / ECCN Control Systems Vienna / Austria ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jun 26 03:12:07 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9913>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:11:59 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f80.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.80]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9913>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:11:49 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:11:46 -0700 Received: from 195.100.79.85 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 07:11:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.100.79.85] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Hey All. Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 03:11:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2001 07:11:46.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[42BC11C0:01C0FE0F] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Could not agree more regarding the depth of the thing. Beside the S750, i also have a Yamaha TX16w which has the same "problem". The funny thing is that they both contain a lot of air underneath the shell. Perhaps it has something to do with cooling? regards Daniel >I just got my Roland S750 sampler. Damn! This bitch is freakin' huge. I >don't mind the rack space, but why the hell does Roland make the depth of >their gear so freakin long?! Anyway, there has got to be some way to extend >the memory of the Roland S750 beyond 18England they made a souped up RAS board that could support up to 64MB. Is >this true? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jun 26 11:15:46 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9913>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:15:38 -0400 Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.157]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:15:28 -0400 Received: from smui02.slb.mindspring.net (smui02.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.25]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29418 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:15:12 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui02.slb.mindspring.net id LAA0000027168; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:15:12 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s760 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 207.121.233.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dennis barton wrote: > The 760 has only 4 audio outputs unless you add on D/A converters. You see the converter, the Roland AD-400, on ebay every once in a while. There was one up there last week, I believe; I bid up to $67 but I wasn't willing to go higher; I think it ended up going for about $170.00. > The 760 has more memory and slightly better OS, but is harder to navigate. Is this just navigating through the LCD display, or even with the attached monitor? And do the 750 and the 770 both have built-in mouse and monitor support? For the 760 you have to find one with the adapter installed. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jun 26 11:42:46 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:42:39 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f126.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.126]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:42:34 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:42:32 -0700 Received: from 195.100.79.85 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:42:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.100.79.85] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s760 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:42:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2001 15:42:32.0558 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D4548E0:01C0FE56] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, Yes they both do, both monochrome and colour monitor + mouse. regards Daniel >And do the 750 and the 770 both have built-in mouse and monitor >support? >For the 760 you have to find one with the adapter installed. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jun 26 11:42:49 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193710-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:42:38 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f206.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.206]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193709-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:42:35 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:42:33 -0700 Received: from 195.100.79.85 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 15:42:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.100.79.85] From: "Daniel Lehtihet" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s760 Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:42:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jun 2001 15:42:33.0788 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E00F7C0:01C0FE56] Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi, Yes they both do, both monochrome and colour monitor + mouse. regards Daniel >And do the 750 and the 770 both have built-in mouse and monitor >support? >For the 760 you have to find one with the adapter installed. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jun 26 12:37:16 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9913>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:37:07 -0400 Received: from siaag1af.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.8]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9913>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:36:56 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1af.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id MAA13875 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:35:40 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup s760 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200106261236_MC3-D72B-93C7@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> The 760 has more memory and slightly better OS, but is harder to navigate. > >Is this just navigating through the LCD display, or even with the attached >monitor? I'd say that the OS is easier on the 750/770 but better on the 760 due to= some added minor features. The features made some layouts less logical IM= O. >And do the 750 and the 770 both have built-in mouse and monitor support= ? >For the 760 you have to find one with the adapter installed. Yes, built in on the 750/770. Extra on on the 760. If you have no mouse board for the 760, you cant use a D/A converter either to get more outs. I have 770s and 760s and they are both good, but slightly different. Oh yeah, the 770 has a hard drive bulit right in. Very nice. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jun 26 12:59:36 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:59:27 -0400 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:59:24 -0400 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net (smui03.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.22]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02323 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:59:22 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id MAA0000020798; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:59:22 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup s760 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 207.121.233.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk dennis barton wrote: > I have 770s and 760s and they are both good, but slightly different. But they sound exactly the same, right? I remember the exact day in the early '90s my gear buying mania stopped. I'd spent an embarassing amount of money on synth gear, guitar gear, a full drum kit, PA gear, recording gear, everything I needed for my band and my home studio. I'd upgraded from the S-10 sampler to the S-550 and I'd gotten copies of just about every single floppy disk for the 550 my local music store had. They even let me hook up their S-550 to their other keyboards and drums machines on the floor and sample them. Man, I was happy! And then one day I walked into the keyboard department and there were four or five guys huddled around some huge sound module; it looked more like a VCR or a video game console than a synth. It was the new Roland 16-bit sampler, I don't even remember the model but I guess it was the 750. Here I thought all the amazing Roland tricks like interpolation or whatever made the 12-bit S-550 sound every bit as good as the 16-bit samplers available at that time so I'd never need anything else, and yet here was the next generation Roland sampler in all its 16-bit glory. I was obsolete. I finally got a chance to try it out. Someone had loaded some multi-instrument sounds on it including a snare sound with velocity switching that just sounded amazing. You played a little harder on the keyboard and the snare REALLY opened up! I asked right away if these sounds could be played on the S-550, albeit in 12-bit only quality. No, the answer came back. Although the new sampler could read S-550 sounds, the new 16-bit sounds were incompatible with the 550. Bummer! I can't remember what Roland wanted for it. Some unbelievable amount of money, perhaps $3000.00 or more. But walking out at the store looking back at the new sampler, I knew that was it. I was finished chasing the latest and greatest. The gear would keep getting better and more expensive, and I couldn't keep up. Now I know how the Soviets felt when President Reagan said he wasn't going to give up Star Wars and they realized they'd just lost the cold war. I sold some of my equipment and got a few cheap, used pieces to fill in some holes, but that was it. For over ten years I didn't buy another new piece of musical equipment. Jesse - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Tue Jun 26 16:32:26 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-9912>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 16:32:23 -0400 Received: from spdmgaab.compuserve.com (ds-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.206.135]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-9913>; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 16:32:08 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id QAA28520; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 16:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 16:31:24 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup s760 To: jsegovia@mindspring.com, sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200106261631_MC3-D749-723D@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >> I have 770s and 760s and they are both good, but slightly different. > >But they sound exactly the same, right? I assume so. Have never compared. I was happy with the 770, and would not have bought a 760 except the airlines changed the carry on sizes, so a 770 was suddenly too big. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. >From owner-sgroup Fri Jun 29 14:38:24 2001 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193709-29842>; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:38:16 -0400 Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.60]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193708-29842>; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:38:05 -0400 Received: from smui03.slb.mindspring.net (smui03.slb.mindspring.net [199.174.114.22]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14362 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Received: by smui03.slb.mindspring.net id OAA0000025298; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 14:38:03 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup Roland Sample CDs & DA-400 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 207.121.233.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk I've bought a few of the Roland-formatted sample CDs West LA Music has on sale for $29.00. I got the first shipment of four and I just ordered three more, but they seem to be going fast. They're already out of the 'Keyboards of the 60s/70s Vol. 2' CD. 'Anybody know a good source for that one? Also, they have the AD-400 convertors that let S-760 owners use eight individual outputs, for $299.00. I'd buy one but I don't need one that badly; I'm still trying to find one on the cheap at ebay. Here's the link for the advertisement: http://www.westlamusic.com/wlam/events/closeout.html and here's the link for the main site where you can order them: http://www.westlamusic.com/wlam/frames.htm - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.