From owner-sgroup Sat Apr 1 01:56:39 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-15680>; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 01:55:47 -0500 Received: from www.peak.sfu.ca ([142.58.230.123]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-15680>; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 01:55:44 -0500 Received: from l33tfux0r (slip129-37-178-76.bc.ca.prserv.net [129.37.178.76]) by www.peak.sfu.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA13675 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:07:56 -0800 Message-Id: <200004010707.XAA13675@www.peak.sfu.ca> X-Sender: blincoln@mail.millenicom.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 01:55:29 -0500 To: From: Ben Lincoln Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 Sysex In-Reply-To: <010f01bf9b92$793af260$6401a8c0@Recorder.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk At 11:26 PM 3/31/00 -0500, Micheal Goins wrote: >BTW, I'm messing with a Peavey PC-1600x and was thinking about trying to use >it to change parameters of the S-330 in real-time. Anyone tried this? I haven't tried it, since I don't currently have any free money to buy a PC-1600x, but previous posts re: altering loop points using sysex in realtime on the S-330 got me to pondering saving for one, with the idea I had in mind being using the PC-1600 to set the loop start point of a really tiny loop in an interesting soundfile, so the loop-point slider could be used to get PPG/Waldorf Wave kinds of effects. I haven't had a chance to program a PC-1600 before, though, so I don't know how feasible this is. Anyone? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Apr 1 05:15:56 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-15680>; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 05:15:04 -0500 Received: from mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com [212.120.66.198]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-15680>; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 05:14:58 -0500 Received: from [212.120.82.160] by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000401101452.BHEI13815.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@[212.120.82.160]> for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 12:14:52 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swank.inc@mail Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 05:14:48 -0500 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Maurits Jonkergouw Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 Sysex Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >I was watching the sysex data from a S-330 and noticed strange things. I >don't have a manual to to verify, but every manipulation on the machine >spits out sysex data. Even simple cursor movements. Could this mean that >the RC-100 controller is really a pre-programmed sysex box? What I'm >getting out in midi data is a mirror of what's going in by mouse and RC-100? > >BTW, I'm messing with a Peavey PC-1600x and was thinking about trying to use >it to change parameters of the S-330 in real-time. Anyone tried this? > Hi, I've made a sysex editor for Macintosh Locic Enviroment, altough there aren't sliders for altering the looppoint (I never used that), you can easily add them. You'll have to change some settings in your S330 (sysex ON for instance) to make it work. Because the midichannels in the editor are fixed, you'll have to change the S330 to meet them. The manual doesn't mention anything about the sysex spitting bit, but it is true: it's a mirror. I do not know the functions of the RC-100 (isn't it not just more than a remote frontpanel with alpha dial and keypad like the S550?), but it's highly possible it converts preprogrammed sysex commands to the EXT CTRL port. In Logic you can even learn the Logic sysex slider the parameter adres, but because every change on the monitor by mouse/RC100 is send to midi (this includes the mouse/cursor movements) you can't use the learn function and you'll have to program them. I used to make a lot of this kind of enviroments for all my other midi shit (Roland Juno2, MKS70, DDR30, S550, R8M, Yamaha FB01 and Kenton Pro4: every parameter of every device controled by mouse-sliders, record them realtime in Logic (after converting them into CC data), edit them later in and even draw them in the HyperEdit window or by HyperDraw object in the Arrangement window. Cool! All of this could be easy done by the PC1600 or any kind of external MIDI mixer. I was thinking of buying one at the time but bought a Yamaha Promix instead: a fully automated 16 channel digital mixer plus MIDI mixer in one! Offcourse if you don't use Logic you will have to make one yourself for Cubase or whatever sequencer you are using. I hope this will help you. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 3 04:36:59 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-4103>; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 04:35:31 -0400 Received: from bird.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.15]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-4103>; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 04:35:21 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (pec-51-96.tnt8.me.uunet.de [149.225.51.96]) by bird.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id KAA23907 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:35:10 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <38E703E2.77A31E02@cityweb.de> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 04:25:06 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-330 Sysex References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Maurits Jonkergouw wrote: > Hi, I've made a sysex editor for Macintosh Locic Enviroment, altough > there aren't sliders for altering the looppoint (I never used that), > you can easily add them. You'll have to change some settings in your > S330 (sysex ON for instance) to make it work. Because the > midichannels in the editor are fixed, you'll have to change the S330 > to meet them. > > The manual doesn't mention anything about the sysex spitting bit, but > it is true: it's a mirror. Could you elaborate on this please? I remember I tried to make an environment object to control the Loop/End points but I didn't know how to do it. But this was many versions (of Logic) ago, and though I have the latest version now, I didn't try again. Is it really possible to generate the 6-Byte-24-Bit format required for Loop/End point with a Sysex slider? What I had in mind was making a true wavetable synth (like the Waldorf Microwave) from the S-330. > but because every change on the monitor by mouse/RC100 is send > to midi (this includes the mouse/cursor movements) Yes, even in the middle of Sysex transmission of sample data. One accidental movement of the mouse and - Zap! Very annoying. > All of > this could be easy done by the PC1600 or any kind of external MIDI > mixer. Hm, can the PC1600 do the 24-Bit format required for Loop/End point? Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Mon Apr 3 10:29:08 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-13241>; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:25:37 -0400 Received: from escambia.se.mediaone.net ([24.129.0.53]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-13241>; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:25:34 -0400 Received: from mgoins (jas116-17.se.mediaone.net [24.129.58.142]) by escambia.se.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA13306 for ; Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:25:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Micheal Goins" To: Subject: RE: sgroup S-330 Sysex Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:25:06 -0400 Message-ID: <000501bf9d78$685069c0$8e3a8118@mgoins.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <38E703E2.77A31E02@cityweb.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk > Hm, can the PC1600 do the 24-Bit format required for Loop/End point? > > Ingo I've monitored much of the sysex transmission. The hard part is determining what is needed. For each action there seems to be 3 sets of sysex. The first and last appear to mirror what you are doing on controls such as RC-100. The second sysex data stream seems to be the parameter stream. I have some data collected, I just need to program the PC-1600 to check. AFAIK, you can program any sysex stream into the PC-1600. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 7 23:38:04 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-7542>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:32:39 -0400 Received: from escambia.se.mediaone.net ([24.129.0.53]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-7542>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:32:28 -0400 Received: from Recorder (surf109-50-236.jacksonville.net [24.129.50.236]) by escambia.se.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA09233 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <015b01bfa10c$2cf81ac0$6501a8c0@Recorder.mediaone.net> From: "Micheal Goins" To: Subject: sgroup Probs with S-330 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:40:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk After it is on for a while, it tends to lockup. Heat? Power supply? Actually it seem to be more prevalent when I the Director S Sys333 software loaded. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 7 23:47:09 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193676-7543>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:43:52 -0400 Received: from mail.airmail.net ([206.66.12.40]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193673-7543>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:43:42 -0400 Received: from [207.136.60.202] from [207.136.60.202] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.438) with esmtp for sender: id ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 22:43:32 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: omz23@mail.airmail.net Message-Id: Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:43:28 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: omz Subject: sgroup VP-9000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anyone seen the new Roland Users Group magazine spread on the VP-9000??? Ouch! I want one. variphrase sounds absoulutely awesome... I mean, I love my 760, but, DAMN! ___________________________________ OMZ BLI Recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf Alejandro Jodorowsky WWW http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 7 23:57:42 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193677-7542>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:54:32 -0400 Received: from escambia.se.mediaone.net ([24.129.0.53]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-7542>; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:54:26 -0400 Received: from Recorder (surf109-50-236.jacksonville.net [24.129.50.236]) by escambia.se.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA13695 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01a901bfa10f$3bb40c60$6501a8c0@Recorder.mediaone.net> From: "Micheal Goins" To: Subject: Re: sgroup VP-9000 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:02:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk >Anyone seen the new Roland Users Group magazine spread on the VP-9000??? > >Ouch! > >I want one. > >variphrase sounds absoulutely awesome... > >I mean, I love my 760, but, DAMN! Pricetag. Double Damn. I heard firsthand accounts of it from NAMM and it impressed even non-sample type people. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sun Apr 9 08:55:11 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-6270>; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 08:53:33 -0400 Received: from bird2.de.uu.net ([193.101.111.28]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-6270>; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 08:53:19 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de ([149.225.120.7]) by bird2.de.uu.net (5.5.5/5.5.5) with ESMTP id OAA20712 for ; Sun, 9 Apr 2000 14:53:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <38EF2BD3.847861A5@cityweb.de> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 08:53:38 -0400 From: Ingo Debus X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Probs with S-330 References: <015b01bfa10c$2cf81ac0$6501a8c0@Recorder.mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Micheal Goins wrote: > > After it is on for a while, it tends to lockup. Heat? Power supply? I had the same problem some years ago. It turned out that this was due to bad contacts of the CPU IC in its socket. The problems went away after removing and reseating this IC, but not all the way down but a little higher, so there's a litlle more force from the IC socket's contact springs. > Actually it seem to be more prevalent when I the Director S Sys333 software > loaded. Can't comment on this, since I never used Director S. Ingo - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Fri Apr 14 14:17:25 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-2242>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:15:35 -0400 Received: from spdmgaaf.compuserve.com (ds-img-6.compuserve.com [149.174.206.139]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-2242>; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:15:29 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id OAA27737 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:15:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:14:34 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup op760 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200004141414_MC2-A13A-D1A4@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anyone still looking for an op760? Write me. |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Apr 15 23:01:22 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-2401>; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:59:31 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com (f153.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.153]) by hugin.uunet.ca with SMTP id <193673-2401>; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:59:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 21448 invoked by uid 0); 16 Apr 2000 02:59:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20000416025927.21447.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.12.8.242 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:59:27 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.12.8.242] From: "Spray Cheese" To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Subject: sgroup The SCSI Demon Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:59:27 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I am trying to hook up my S-760 to my PC for SCSI dumps. I know this topic has been discussed here 37 times so my appologies for not paying attention. I'm hoping that some kind person has put up a page somewhere with this info. Maybe? If not, i'll be happy to do it...once i figure it out. On a related note, can any mac users tell me the crappiest (cheapest) Mac i can use for SCSI sample dumps? If it's easier, i might just get an old mac. On yet another semi related note, has anyone else noticed that when doing a Midi Sample Dump, the sounds get a bit messed up after the transfer? A little grainier a little more muffled or something. Does it just drop bits during the transfer? Or am i on crack? Thanks to all, will ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Apr 22 00:55:40 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-28236>; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:54:25 -0400 Received: from spdmgaab.compuserve.com (ds-img-2.compuserve.com [149.174.206.135]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-28235>; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:54:15 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id AAA28844 for sgroup@hugin.uunet.ca; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:54:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:53:50 -0400 From: dennis barton Subject: sgroup eq on 760 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Message-ID: <200004220053_MC2-A228-522C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Has anyone used the MIDI EQ on the s760? Seems like it's parametric and MIDI contollable. Worth experimenting with= for live performance? |_e_/~ Dennis Barton ) skylab2000 ~\/\ Brainforest Productions, Los Angeles / http://skylab2000.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Sat Apr 22 23:22:41 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193675-28236>; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:21:56 -0400 Received: from va.com.au ([203.15.106.1]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-28236>; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:21:49 -0400 Received: from [150.101.250.137] (150.101.250.137) by va.com.au with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2); Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:51:32 +0930 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:27:58 -0400 To: sgroup@lists.uunet.ca From: Peter Sansom Subject: sgroup Sys-X docs for s-760 ? Where ? Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Hi S-groovers There has been mention of sys-x and the s-760 lately and I was wondering where I might find the sys-x codes documented. I appear to have all the manuals , and isnt there alot of them, and the updates from the roland US site but no sys-x. Any clues pointers etc Peter S http://sustenance.va.com.au - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information. From owner-sgroup Tue Apr 25 11:03:48 2000 Received: by hugin.uunet.ca id <193674-17975>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:01:34 -0400 Received: from flathead.gate.net ([216.219.246.5]) by hugin.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <193673-17975>; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:01:28 -0400 Received: from feinsilver.com (tsftl1-215.gate.net [207.36.135.215]) by flathead.gate.net (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA169128 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:00:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3905C0C9.B1DBC4BD@feinsilver.com> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:59:06 -0400 From: -adam- Reply-To: adam@feinsilver.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sgroup@lists.uunet.ca" Subject: sgroup Going price on an S760? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lists.uunet.ca Precedence: bulk Anyone know the going price on a used (I guess they all are now :-) ) S-760 24 megs RAM and the Optional TV/mouse board?? Thanx! a d a m - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lists.uunet.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lists.uunet.ca and see http://www.generalconcepts.com/sgroup/ for more information.