From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 1 02:33:03 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11735 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 02:33:02 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA21267 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 02:33:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 02:23:26 -0500 Received: from jupiter.centrin.net.id ([202.146.255.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 02:22:19 -0500 Received: from [202.146.255.206] by jupiter.centrin.net.id; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0523PM) id AA03405; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 14:22:23 +0700 Message-Id: <9703010722.AA03405@jupiter.centrin.net.id> From: "Albert Juwono" To: Cc: Subject: Re: sgroup S-760, A bit HISSY? Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 02:20:34 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ---------- > From: Windsound@aol.com > To: ajuwono@mindless.com > Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > Subject: Re: sgroup S-760, A bit HISSY? > Date: 01 Maret 1997 10:28 > > > In a message dated 2/28/97 10:04:52 PM, you wrote: > > > Is your S760 connected to your expensive digital console via analogue inputs? > Have you listened to the headphone output of the S760 itself? And if you are > sampling silence, how high is the input gain or digital attenuation? > I connected it via its analog inputs, and already check s760's headphone output. Result is the same. Compared to my other modules (JV1080, Morpheus), they have very clean output, but much lower level. Input gain was at 12 o'clock, digitall att at 0 dB. It really sounded like a noise gate. More noticable on long samples like toms, for example, which have long decay. I don't use noise gate at all. Oh, btw the headroom is standard, -6 dB. > I, personally have had no hiss or noise problems on my S760, but I'm always > interested in others' experiences with the unit. As for how it compares with > other samplers, I couldn't offer any insight. > Yeah, but I'm not too bothered by the noise anyway, it's sooooo little. > Good luck! > Thanks Albert J > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 1 10:24:09 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27384 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:24:08 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07564 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <126>; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:11:21 -0500 Received: from coins0.coin.missouri.edu ([198.209.253.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:10:03 -0500 Received: from [128.206.209.52] (mizzou-as7-04.missouri.edu [128.206.209.52]) by coins0.coin.missouri.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09044 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:09:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:09:39 -0500 X-Sender: ofajen@pop.coin.missouri.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ofajen@mail.coin.missouri.edu (otto fajen) Subject: Re: sgroup S-760, A bit HISSY? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >quite surprised. I've noticed a little bit hiss at the end of long samples. >The kicks from Bob Clearmountain (and the toms too) Drums II were the most >noticable. Then I tried the Rhythm Section, all samples are a bit hissy. >The hiss is like a noise gate, open an closing. When sitting idle, the >sampler is incredibly quite. But when I record silent sample, (I'm not >feeding anything to the input), there's still the annoying hiss, enchanced >if I play a chord on the controller. I've worked with many samplers, but >still don't know if they all have same trouble. I mean if you listen it >thru a studio monitor, the hiss is most likely unoticable. i think you're taking hiss too seriously. i notice this hiss thing with my s-550's, too. no big surprise, as they're 12-bit. in fact, it's pretty amazing how well they do, given that limitation. i guess when you have the s-760, your expectations are higher. never stops me from doing music, though. bear in mind even my s-550 kicks but over the old fairlight peter gabriel used on security, and that album sounds great. one thing to bear in mind is that, at least on the s-550, the sampling input is not ultra clean. the library samples sound great because they were made with roland's high tech gear and then ported down to the 12-bit s-550 format. probably the same with the 700 series. i.e. they use really good a to d equipment to record, then port to the sampler, while the sampling input on the unit itself is of lesser, but adequate, performance. oh by the way, if you're sick of that pathetic s-760, i'll take it off your hands for, say, $100. is it a deal? ;-) otto - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 1 11:48:37 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01291 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:48:36 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01041 for ; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <136>; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:37:00 -0500 Received: from jupiter.centrin.net.id ([202.146.255.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:35:50 -0500 Received: from [202.146.255.144] by jupiter.centrin.net.id; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0523PM) id AA17679; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 23:36:11 +0700 Message-Id: <9703011636.AA17679@jupiter.centrin.net.id> From: "Albert Juwono" To: Subject: Re: sgroup S-760, A bit HISSY? Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:30:58 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > oh by the way, if you're sick of that pathetic s-760, i'll take it off your > hands for, say, $100. is it a deal? ;-) > > otto > Hahahahahahaa...over my dead body!!!!! I've never been too bothered by the noise, it's 99% unheard anyway, except you're using quality headphones, close your eyes, and concentrate on the noise. Why in the hell I do that for? BTW, the S-550 really sounds great. It is not 16bit, that givea 'em the character I'm looking for. How 'bout trading it with my Bob Clearmountain Drums II? > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 2 07:11:58 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA24795 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 07:11:57 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <218>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 06:57:47 -0500 Received: from jupiter.centrin.net.id ([202.146.255.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <217>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 06:56:57 -0500 Received: from [202.146.255.160] by jupiter.centrin.net.id; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0523PM) id AA22391; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:57:13 +0700 Message-Id: <9703021157.AA22391@jupiter.centrin.net.id> From: "Albert Juwono" To: Subject: Re: sgroup S-760, A bit HISSY? R-DAC Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 06:05:01 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ---------- > From: otto fajen > To: Albert Juwono > Subject: Re: sgroup S-760, A bit HISSY? > Date: 02 Maret 1997 12:41 > > sorry, but i'm not understanding your question. could you elaborate? > > otto > No! Sorry, the question makes no sense, I already half a sleep when wrote it. By the way, Roland has a new sampling technology, I think they call it R-DAC, Roland-Digital Audio Coding. I think it's pretty neat. I have a Roland MS-1 which is the first product to use the tech, and I think it sounds great (for a cheapo sampler.....I bought it for Rp. 800.000, approx $375). The VS-880, is another example. The R-DAC compression scheme, provides much more sampling time, about four times (!!) longer than standard method. Sure, it's affect the sound quality, but in a good way. The samples became more warm, and less harsh (according to Erik Hawkins, Electronic Musician). So, has anybody heard any news or rumors about Roland's new pro-sampler? I think my S-760 is cool piece of gear, but well, let say that it's time for Roland to add new model with features comparable to E-mu's monster sampler, or the K-2500, or the Yamaha A-3000, of course with down to earth price tag like the Akai S-2000. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 2 15:34:08 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01790 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:34:07 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:23:26 -0500 Received: from shell.wco.com ([199.4.94.16]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:22:35 -0500 Received: (from ai@localhost) by shell.wco.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id MAA22767; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 12:22:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 15:22:24 -0500 From: ai Message-Id: <199703022022.MAA22767@shell.wco.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup ***** HELP: Can I back up my optical Roland format disks to CD? **** Cc: ai@shell.wco.com Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hello, I have a Roland S760 sampler and some Sony optical 600 MB disks with sounds I've sampled onto the opticals. In order to free up space on the opticals I am looking for a way to back up the opticals. a. I can't back up the opticals on my Mac since the Mac does not let me mount or see Roland format data (on the opticals: ie S760 volumes, perfs, patches, etc). b. I can't connect a DAT or CD-R drive to the S760 to back up (I don't think). Q1. So - is there any way I can connect a CD-R drive directly to the Sony optical drive to do a complete and full backup from the Sony optical to CD-R? If so how? Q2. Or - is there any way I can connect the Sony optical drive and a CD-R drive to my Mac - and using some Mac app (Toast?, or Discribe? or Retrospect? or ?) - to be able to do a raw dump from the optical drive to the CD-R ? Q3. Or - some other way? I already know about TranferStation - it is very limited in that it only lets me save samples, not patches or perfs. or volumes onto the Mac HFS disk - and so it won't help. Thanks in advance for any feedback to: ai@wco.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 2 16:33:20 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02866 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 16:33:19 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA10399 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 16:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 16:24:00 -0500 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com ([192.100.81.115]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 16:23:10 -0500 Received: from [192.0.2.1] (interval@netcom7.netcom.com [192.100.81.115]) by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id NAA08996; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 13:22:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199703022122.NAA08996@netcom7.netcom.com> X-Sender: interval@127.0.0.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 16:23:41 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: interval@netcom.com (Scott Morgan) Subject: sgroup Atari/S760 mouse Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Anybody know how to hotwire an Atari ST mouse for use with the S760? tia. _________ Scott Morgan __ Interval Music Systems ________ interval@netcom.com http://www.imuse.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 2 18:12:04 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA04379 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 18:11:59 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:53:35 -0500 Received: from mailmule1.mindspring.com ([204.180.128.192]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:52:11 -0500 Received: from [38.26.32.194] (ip194.an21-new-york4.ny.pub-ip.psi.net [38.26.32.194]) by mailmule1.mindspring.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA29514 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:51:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703022251.RAA29514@mailmule1.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup ***** HELP: Can I back up my optical Roland format d Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 17:56:30 -0500 x-sender: sampleheads@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I can't connect a DAT or CD-R drive to the S760 to > back up (I don't think) Hook up your DAT to the roland bus. Or simply burn a CDR image of the opticals. You don't have a "problem". The hardware and software exists to back this stuff up. In fact, if you don't back up, your odds of hardware failure/disc crashes goes up the more you think abtu not being backed up. That's the truth... the gear can read your mind... the moment you *think* "I really should backup this up..." well, then you're hosed. The gear also know when you have redundant backups... it figures that there's no point in failure since you'll just format it and restore... if it can't screw up your aternoon, then it will just keep working. It knows. JR - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 2 23:34:04 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09067 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:34:03 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA29888 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:34:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:24:16 -0500 Received: from jupiter.centrin.net.id ([202.146.255.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:23:27 -0500 Received: from [202.146.255.146] by jupiter.centrin.net.id; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0523PM) id AA02156; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:23:43 +0700 Message-Id: <9703030423.AA02156@jupiter.centrin.net.id> From: "Albert Juwono" To: Subject: Re: sgroup S-760, A bit HISSY? R-DAC Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 23:21:39 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Dunno, I believe somebody told me that the release of VS880, will mark the new era of roland samplers. Am I being bullshitted? ---------- > From: ai > To: ajuwono@mindless.com > Subject: Re: sgroup S-760, A bit HISSY? R-DAC > Date: 03 Maret 1997 2:15 > > | So, has anybody heard any news or rumors about Roland's new pro-sampler? I > > > Have you heard that there even is a new pro-sampler > coming out ??? > > Thx - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 3 15:39:08 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06712 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:39:07 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA15474 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:16:55 -0500 Received: from mail1.grove.ufl.EDU ([128.227.8.81]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:15:47 -0500 Received: from birch.grove.ufl.EDU (hotrod@grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.10]) by mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA31870 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by birch.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3/3) with SMTP id PAA17826 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:15:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:15:12 -0500 From: grilledcheese X-Sender: hotrod@birch To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup madness In-Reply-To: <970228222810_-1138614635@emout17.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R the moniter i use with my s-330 has a volume controll on the front thats always humored me, until yesterday. i plugged the 330's output into the moniter's audio in jack. its pretty cool, after you puke that is. certain tones, with lots of filter resonance sound , errr, great. kinda like aphex twin on crack. the only problem is that i tried to sample sounds thru the moniter to capture that sound, but if i put the microphone within 2 feet of the moniter it makes crazy noize. so you alway have a "distance" sound in the samples 'cause the mics soo far away. ayway i thought id share that. mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...We all realised that it doesn't really matter what you play, it'll sound good because of what you're plugged into." -sarah peacock of seefeel - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 4 17:12:02 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16273 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:12:01 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:58:38 -0500 Received: from huey.disney.com ([204.128.192.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:48:07 -0500 Received: from ford.wdi.disney.com. (ford.wdi.disney.com [139.104.100.2]) by huey.disney.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26806 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:47:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from wdigl000.is.wdi.disney.com by ford.wdi.disney.com. with SMTP id AA00287 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.3 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca); Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:40:39 -0800 Received: by wdigl000.is.wdi.disney.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC28A3.EE319B60@wdigl000.is.wdi.disney.com>; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:57:00 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Petitt, Steve D." To: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: sgroup REQ: Utility to convert .WAV files to Roland SDK Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 16:56:58 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I'm looking for a utility program that will convert .WAV files to the Roland format for the S-550. I know that Awave 3.2 will convert FROM the Roland format, but does not write TO it. As always, your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 5 12:36:11 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11503 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:36:09 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26617 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <64>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:24:01 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu ([128.32.155.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:23:11 -0500 Received: from [128.32.189.231] (warren513-6.SPH.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.189.231]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA08714 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:22:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.4 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 12:26:45 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ckirkham@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Chris Kirkham) Subject: sgroup !!Mac & S760 SCSI Advice Needed!! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Dear sgroup, For the first time last night I was working with a Mac connected to my S760. One of my syquests became mysteriously UNFORMATTED. I have a Centris 610 with an internal CD, connected to an external CD, a syquest 270 and the S760. When you choose "shut down" on the Centris, the power actually stays on (the hard drive still is spinning, the CDROM drive is still accessable to the sampler). I have some questions for someone with experience with a Mac and an S760 on the same SCSI chain: -Which should you turn on and off first, the Mac or sampler? -How does the Mac affect the integrity of the S760's SCSI chain? -For general use of the Centris's CD rom, would it be preferable to keep the computer in its "shut down but still powered state"? -How might this "shut down but still powered state" affect the Macs termination? PS I was using the set up to squirt AIFF files over to the S760 with Samplifier, it worked nicely. Chris Kirkham ckirkham@uclink4.berkeley.edu (510)665-1986 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 5 03:35:53 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26139 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 03:35:51 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA15214 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 03:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 03:23:46 -0500 Received: from gaspra.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.60]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 03:22:55 -0500 Received: from rauris.kapsch.co.at by gaspra.kapsch.co.at (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Wed, 05 Mar 1997 09:22:50 +0200 Received: from gutau.kapsch.co.at by rauris.kapsch.co.at (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09738; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 09:21:02 +0100 Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970305082247.0d972464@rauris> X-Sender: ullrich@rauris X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 03:22:47 -0500 To: interval@netcom.com (Scott Morgan), sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Peter Ullrich Subject: Re: sgroup Atari/S760 mouse Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 16:23 02.03.1997 -0500, Scott Morgan wrote: >Anybody know how to hotwire an Atari ST mouse for use with the S760? I had a look into the S330 service manual (since it uses the same mouse as far as I know it should be suitable): Pin Name Mouse MU-1 Direction Remote Control RC-100 1 MX0 UP IN DATA1 (Data input from RC-100) 2 MX1 DOWN IN ATN (Ready signal from RC-100) 3 MX2 LEFT IN GROUND 4 MX3 RIGHT IN GROUND 5 +5.2V +5.2V POWER +5.2V supply 6 MX4 LEFT SWITCH IN CLK1 Sync clock for data1 7 MX5 RIGHT SWITCH IN CLK2 Sync clock for data2 8 MX6 STROBE(CS) OUT DATA2 (Data Output to RC-100) 9 GND GND POWER Ground I don't have the Atari-Mouse connections available but this should be no problem to find in the internet... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto: ullrich@kapsch.co.at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 5 06:05:44 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA03121 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 06:05:39 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:55:02 -0500 Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.233.51]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:54:06 -0500 Received: from beamwham by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.7.6/ for ncl.ac.uk) with SMTP; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 10:50:14 GMT Message-ID: <331D4FE6.5E2C7C64@ncl.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:50:14 -0500 From: Adrian Wilson Organization: MSc Student, Dept Of Computing, University of Newcastle X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.25 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ai CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, ai@shell.wco.com Subject: sgroup W-30 References: <199703022022.MAA22767@shell.wco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone have a W-30 out there? If so send me a reply. Ade. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 5 15:15:23 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16151 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:14:42 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <66>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:03:15 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:00:32 -0500 Received: from tis_den.com (firewall-user@rockerbob.intellink.net [206.168.128.124]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14351 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by tis_den.com; id NAA02995; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:02:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from mac.tis_den.com(10.0.1.15) by gauntlet.tis_den.com via smap (3.2) id xma002993; Wed, 5 Mar 97 13:02:18 -0700 Message-ID: <331DD14E.2DB7@dash.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:02:34 -0500 From: Keith Lewis X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Wilson CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup W-30 References: <199703022022.MAA22767@shell.wco.com> <331D4FE6.5E2C7C64@ncl.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I have a W-30 that I've had since they first came out. Almost all I ever do with it is use a couple of bass samples from the internals and I use the keyboard for a controller. I'm a guitar player so I don't use the keyboard controller much. I also have several other boxes for sounds so the old W-30 doesn't do much anymore. Although I really do like some of the sounds, the basses in particular. Keith http://www.dash.com/rockerbob Adrian Wilson wrote: > > Does anyone have a W-30 out there? > > If so send me a reply. > > Ade. > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 5 15:31:49 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16518 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:31:48 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:16:55 -0500 Received: from mail1.grove.ufl.EDU ([128.227.8.81]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <67>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:16:05 -0500 Received: from camphor.grove.ufl.EDU (hotrod@grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.17]) by mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23433; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:15:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by camphor.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3/3) with SMTP id PAA13037; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:15:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 15:15:58 -0500 From: grilledcheese X-Sender: hotrod@camphor To: Michael A Pecchio cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup zzzz sdisk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R i downloaded alot of sampledisks from the ftp site, and the sdisk program. sdisk will not convert from the .out format to a roland disk format. what do i need to make these samples usable? mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...We all realised that it doesn't really matter what you play, it'll sound good because of what you're plugged into." -sarah peacock of seefeel - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 5 16:12:02 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA17364 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:12:00 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <67>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:02:01 -0500 Received: from mail.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:01:11 -0500 Received: from Tomtal.netvision.net.il (ts001p7.pop6a.netvision.net.il [199.203.244.27]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00768; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:00:56 +0200 (IST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:56:27 -0500 From: Eli Ginot Subject: RE: sgroup W-30 To: Adrian Wilson Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I have a W30 and I just love it! Eli. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 5 17:04:58 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA18823 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 17:04:55 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <126>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:55:04 -0500 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:54:07 -0500 Received: by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AA04920; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:53:18 +1100 Message-Id: <9703052153.AA04920@wr.com.au> Subject: Re: sgroup zzzz sdisk To: hotrod@grove.ufl.EDU (grilledcheese) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 16:53:18 -0500 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (Roland Samplers) In-Reply-To: from "grilledcheese" at Mar 5, 97 03:15:58 pm From: nic@carrot.com.au (Nic Grant) X-Face: CWvY*`==&6t{gXL499VPU\Q@{>yp6Thfa6V;Qev0p\q]Oi,cV10j} i downloaded alot of sampledisks from the ftp site, and the sdisk program. => sdisk will not convert from the .out format to a roland disk format. what => do i need to make these samples usable? Probably using win95? Sadly sdisk was writtent before win95 was even thought of and win95 does not honour the BIOS calls made by sdisk to access disk sectors directly. The solution is to boot up your machine with DOS Version 6 or below. Regards, Nic. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 09:23:11 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA12290 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:23:09 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:08:10 -0500 Received: from gaspra.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.60]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:07:18 -0500 Received: from rauris.kapsch.co.at by gaspra.kapsch.co.at (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:07:01 +0200 Received: from gutau.kapsch.co.at by rauris.kapsch.co.at (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA13444; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:05:11 +0100 Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970306140657.44c76ef4@rauris> X-Sender: ullrich@rauris X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:06:57 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Peter Ullrich Subject: Re: sgroup zzzz sdisk Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 15:15 05.03.1997 -0500, grilledcheese wrote: > >i downloaded alot of sampledisks from the ftp site, and the sdisk program. >sdisk will not convert from the .out format to a roland disk format. what >do i need to make these samples usable? Hi ! I think that you have the same problem that I had: Do not use disk that were formatted on your sampler. Just format your disks on the PC (format a: /f:720) and everything should work now. After that I had no problem. I also have problems reading disk that were written on the sampler (on sampler formatted disks)... I hope that helps... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto: ullrich@kapsch.co.at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 09:40:56 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA12668 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:40:55 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:26:13 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:22:56 -0500 Received: from INET-04-IMC.microsoft.com (mail4.microsoft.com [131.107.3.29]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA17473 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by INET-04-IMC.microsoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC29E6.5AF12020@INET-04-IMC.microsoft.com>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:25:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'Adrian Wilson'" Cc: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: RE: sgroup W-30 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:27:41 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 25 TEXT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I've got a W30 with SCSI option (also have an S330) Both are for sale btw - I've now got 2x S760s.... Peter >---------- >From: Adrian Wilson[SMTP:Adrian.Wilson@ncl.ac.uk] >Sent: 05 March 1997 10:50 >To: ai >Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; ai@shell.wco.com >Subject: sgroup W-30 > >Does anyone have a W-30 out there? > >If so send me a reply. > >Ade. > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 11:08:43 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA14708 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:08:41 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <64>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:58:19 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:57:28 -0500 Received: from unidui.uni-duisburg.de (unidui.uni-duisburg.de [134.91.4.3]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19638 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:43:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703061043.FAA19638@math.uwaterloo.ca> Received: from d250-hrz.uni-duisburg.de by unidui.uni-duisburg.de with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA070874917; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:41:57 +0100 From: Becker Subject: sgroup SDK ???? please help To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (roland) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:41:56 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi ! How can I change the S550/S7xx disks into SDK-files ? There are some sdk-files on ftp, but most of the files are in roland-s-format. I downloaded some and used sdisk. This all worked fine but my PC couldnt read any files on the roland-disks. But I do need sdk-files !!! Please help me out of this ! Thanx in advance, Baker. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 11:56:12 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA15691 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:56:11 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:44:41 -0500 Received: from melati.singnet.com.sg ([165.21.1.15]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:44:07 -0500 Received: from addie.singnet.com.sg (ts900-7104.singnet.com.sg [165.21.165.56]) by melati.singnet.com.sg (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA01997 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 00:43:49 +0800 (SST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:43:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199703061643.AAA01997@melati.singnet.com.sg> X-Sender: bangg@singnet.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: bangg@singnet.com.sg (Benjamin Ang) Subject: sgroup Live Gig 14 March 1997 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ELECTRONIC MUSIC LAB presents XPERIENCE National University of Singapore, Lecture Theatre 13 (NUS Theatrette), Friday 14 March 1997, 7.30pm. The Electronic Music Lab (part of the NUS Centre for the Arts) presents an evening of Techno, Ambient, Trance, Jungle, Acid Jazz and Experimental Electronic Music. Also featuring live set by Terabyte. We use Roland S-330 and S-550 samplers, (which is why we're emailing you) Korg Prophecy, Korg X3, Roland JD-800 and more... Admission is free. Internet website is at http://www.eml.org.sg. pls email me to reserve free tickets. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENJAMIN ANG bangg@singnet.com.sg Rajah & Tann, Advocates & Solicitors [a Law Firm in Singapore] http://www.singnet.com.sg/~rajahtan Electronic Music Lab, Singapore http://www.eml.org.sg - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 12:54:50 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA16896 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:54:49 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <66>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:42:11 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:41:16 -0500 Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk (cheviot.ncl.ac.uk [128.240.233.51]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11987 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from alnham by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.7.6/ for ncl.ac.uk) with SMTP; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:20:22 GMT Message-ID: <331E9A65.5FA686F5@ncl.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:20:21 -0500 From: Adrian Wilson Organization: MSc Student, Dept Of Computing, University of Newcastle X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.25 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eliche in Funzione CC: ai , Sgroup Roland Discussion , ai@shell.wco.com Subject: sgroup Cheers References: Conversation <199703022022.MAA22767@shell.wco.com> with last message <331D4FE6.5E2C7C64@ncl.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Thanks for the great response to my W-30 enquirey. I was wondering whether anyone knew if it would be:- a) Possible and b) legal to send sample data over the net? I'm sure you all know what a bind it can be sitting around for hours trying to smooth those string sounds etc so sharing work like that would help us all out. I got my W-30 in 1992 in my first year at Manchester University (england) and have writted literally hundreds of tunes and songs on it. I alszo have an SY 77 (Yamaha) whose sequencer is not a patch on the Roland, but it is stereo! Must Dash Cheers Ade - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 13:10:14 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17574 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:10:14 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA02803 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <64>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:56:07 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:54:31 -0500 Received: from tin.it ([195.31.190.111]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16659 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown (ip129.tin14.interbusiness.it) by mbox.vol.it with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA213927297; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:34:57 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <331D4FE6.5E2C7C64@ncl.ac.uk> References: Conversation <199703022022.MAA22767@shell.wco.com> with last message <331D4FE6.5E2C7C64@ncl.ac.uk> Priority: Normal X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: "Adrian Wilson" , "ai" , "Sgroup Roland Discussion" Cc: ai@shell.wco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Eliche in Funzione" Subject: Re: sgroup W-30 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:32:29 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I have a W-30 from 7 years and it is my master keyboard and my DRUMS & BASS Sounds for ever!!! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 13:36:49 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18275 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:36:49 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28081 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:24:16 -0500 Received: from x4.boston.juno.com ([205.231.101.22]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:05:09 -0500 Received: (from jbana@juno.com) by x4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id KVD29884; Thu, 06 Mar 1997 10:04:04 EST To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:07:27 -0500 Subject: sgroup Need help with W-30 operating system info Message-ID: <19970306.090728.11727.0.jbana@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,4-5,9-13,15,17-20 From: jbana@juno.com (Joel G Jambon) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Fellow W-30 users, The operating system I am using on my W-30 is system 1.03, which is what it came with. So, I went to the Roland web site, and downloaded system 1.10 as well as the SDISK utility that would help me put it on floppy. I unzipped the operating system, saved it to floppy using SDISK, and went over to the W-30. However, it will not boot!!! It pops up the initial window screen of information, and then almost immediately powers down and re-boots itself. Re-try after re-try has proved unsuccessful. My questions are: (1) Why won't system 1.10 work? (2) Should I care? - what additional features does it have over system 1.03? (3) Do any W-30 users out there have an operating system greater than 1.03 that they would be willing to share with me? Joel Jambon jbana@juno.com or jbananola@aol.com - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 13:57:26 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18709 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:57:25 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA08803 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:57:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <64>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:46:28 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:45:35 -0500 Received: from gaspra.kapsch.co.at (gaspra.kapsch.co.at [148.198.8.60]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA25007 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:30:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from rauris.kapsch.co.at by gaspra.kapsch.co.at (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Thu, 06 Mar 1997 07:28:20 +0200 Received: from gutau.kapsch.co.at by rauris.kapsch.co.at (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12139; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:26:28 +0100 Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970306062815.584fbda0@rauris> X-Sender: ullrich@rauris X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:28:15 -0500 To: grilledcheese From: Peter Ullrich Subject: Re: sgroup zzzz sdisk CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 15:15 05.03.1997 -0500, grilledcheese wrote: > >i downloaded alot of sampledisks from the ftp site, and the sdisk program. >sdisk will not convert from the .out format to a roland disk format. what >do i need to make these samples usable? Hi ! I think that you have the same problem that I had: Do not use disk that were formatted on your sampler. Just format your disks on the PC (format a: /f:720) and everything should work now. After that I had no problem. I also have problems reading disk that were written on the sampler (on sampler formatted disks)... I hope that helps... Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto: ullrich@kapsch.co.at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 16:12:57 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21925 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:12:23 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:01:17 -0500 Received: from mail1.grove.ufl.EDU ([128.227.8.81]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:00:26 -0500 Received: from camphor.grove.ufl.EDU (root@grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.17]) by mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10308; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:59:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by camphor.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3/3) with SMTP id PAA31538; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:56:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:56:50 -0500 From: grilledcheese X-Sender: hotrod@camphor To: Nic Grant cc: Roland Samplers Subject: Re: sgroup zzzz sdisk In-Reply-To: <9703052153.AA04920@wr.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Probably using win95? Sadly sdisk was writtent before win95 was even > thought of and win95 does not honour the BIOS calls made by sdisk to > access disk sectors directly. The solution is to boot up your machine with > DOS Version 6 or below. im using win 3.1 wwith dos 6. ..i was running it in a window, but i dont think it matters really,, it doesnt seem to be able to do it, i mean what the hell command SHOULD make it read an .out file and write it to a roland formatted disk in drive a?? mike - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 16:29:55 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA22383 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:29:54 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:15:51 -0500 Received: from mail1.grove.ufl.EDU ([128.227.8.81]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:14:22 -0500 Received: from camphor.grove.ufl.EDU (hotrod@grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.17]) by mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16431; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by camphor.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3/3) with SMTP id QAA24990; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:13:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:13:32 -0500 From: grilledcheese X-Sender: hotrod@camphor To: Peter Fitzpatrick cc: "'Adrian Wilson'" , "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: sgroup RE: crashes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ive had my s-330 for about a month or 2, use it alot. yesterday i was editing song data with director-s and it suddenly would not play back any patterns, i was able to save and restartt, but thenn, an hour or 2 later it froze up totally, AND PISSED ME OFF. i lost alot of work. is this due to overheating maybe? i doubt it, its in the top of my rack with a blank perfed pannel above and it was in a coll 70 degrees air conditioned room. any ideas? hey does anyone else use director-s? i was always wanting to use it live, so all id need is the sampler, no computer. latly ive been noticing its suckpoints, like if you make snarre rolls and other midi data gets sent mid-roll, it sounds uneven. mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...We all realised that it doesn't really matter what you play, it'll sound good because of what you're plugged into." -sarah peacock of seefeel - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 16:51:41 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22896 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:51:40 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18192 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:42:50 -0500 Received: from INET-04-IMC.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.29]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:41:42 -0500 Received: by INET-04-IMC.microsoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC2A34.4A356310@INET-04-IMC.microsoft.com>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:42:53 -0800 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" , "'jbana@juno.com'" Subject: RE: sgroup Need help with W-30 operating system info Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:45:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 47 TEXT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R It sounds like the download is corrupt ?? Send me your mailing address (by private mail) and I'll send you a disc. It might be worth trying a different blank disc too. Also : the disc might need to be re-formatted in the W30. Yes, there were a few bug fixes (especially in the sequencer) so it might be worth getting the 1.10 version. Plus you're going to need a new OS if you decide to add SCSI to the W30 Peter Fitzpatrick >---------- >From: jbana@juno.com[SMTP:jbana@juno.com] >Sent: 06 March 1997 17:07 >To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca >Subject: sgroup Need help with W-30 operating system info > >Fellow W-30 users, > >The operating system I am using on my W-30 is system 1.03, which is what >it came with. So, I went to the Roland web site, and downloaded system >1.10 as well as the SDISK utility that would help me put it on floppy. > >I unzipped the operating system, saved it to floppy using SDISK, and went >over to the W-30. However, it will not boot!!! It pops up the initial >window screen of information, and then almost immediately powers down >and re-boots itself. > >Re-try after re-try has proved unsuccessful. My questions are: > >(1) Why won't system 1.10 work? >(2) Should I care? - what additional features does it have over system >1.03? >(3) Do any W-30 users out there have an operating system greater than >1.03 that they would be willing to share with me? > >Joel Jambon > jbana@juno.com or jbananola@aol.com > > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 17:22:46 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA23606 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:22:44 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <64>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:11:17 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:10:28 -0500 Received: from getnet.com (gn2.getnet.com [204.157.9.29]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27850 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [206.85.128.67] (phx-ip1-67.getnet.com [206.85.128.67]) by getnet.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA27155 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 18:46:14 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:46:14 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: TRanceFehr Subject: sgroup filter control? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anybody know if there is a way to control the S-550's cut off and resonance filters via an external source, ex: using live real time sys-ex or controllers on a sequencer? The fact that the S series samplers has analog filters is cool, but they are almost useless to me unless they are tweakable in real time. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Joe - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 17:40:53 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA23966 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:40:52 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <66>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:23:56 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:22:38 -0500 Received: from alaska.magpage.com (alaska.magpage.com [204.179.92.50]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA07838 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.magpage.com by alaska.magpage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA03673; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:30:13 -0500 Received: from borg.magpage.com by mail.magpage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA03592; Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:29:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970305203026.00693588@gangsterpump.com> X-Sender: borg@gangsterpump.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:30:26 -0500 To: Adrian Wilson , ai From: The Borg Subject: Re: sgroup W-30 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, ai@shell.wco.com In-Reply-To: <331D4FE6.5E2C7C64@ncl.ac.uk> References: <199703022022.MAA22767@shell.wco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 05:50 AM 3/5/97 -0500, Adrian Wilson wrote: >Does anyone have a W-30 out there? >If so send me a reply. >Ade. We have a W-30.. And????? ___________ /-/_"/-/_/-/| We are Borg of Gangster Pump. /"-/-_"/-_//|| Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. /__________/|/| |"|_'='-]:+|/|| borg@gangsterpump.com |-+-|.|_'-"||// http://www.magpage.com/~borg/ -personal web site |[".[:!+-'=|// http://www.gangsterpump.com/ -band web site |='!+|-:]|-|/ ---------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 17:57:57 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24287 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:57:56 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:45:33 -0500 Received: from getnet.com ([204.157.9.29]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:44:25 -0500 Received: from [206.85.129.82] (phx-ip2-82.getnet.com [206.85.129.82]) by getnet.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA27907 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 15:44:02 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:44:02 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: TRanceFehr Subject: sgroup hidden sample archive? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I found a readme for a listing of samples in the library (not Roland, but samples contributed by individuals), but I can't find the actual samples. Does anybody know where they are? I am looking for hip hop/ break beat drum loops, vocal samples (anything that hasn't been used a thousand times, ex: James Brown samples), pads, and vintage drum machines. Mainly beat loops though. Thanks, Joe - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 19:01:26 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25374 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:01:25 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:51:09 -0500 Received: from coins0.coin.missouri.edu ([198.209.253.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:50:19 -0500 Received: from [128.206.209.84] (mizzou-as7-36.missouri.edu [128.206.209.84]) by coins0.coin.missouri.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00554 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:49:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:49:55 -0500 X-Sender: ofajen@pop.coin.missouri.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ofajen@mail.coin.missouri.edu (otto fajen) Subject: Re: sgroup Cheers Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Thanks for the great response to my W-30 enquirey. > >I was wondering whether anyone knew if it would be:- > >a) Possible and >b) legal > >to send sample data over the net? it is possible and legal, so long as you are not (either knowingly or unknowingly) transmitting a copy of a commercial sample in violation of a copyright agreement or other restriction on duplication. otto - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 19:08:02 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25375 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:01:25 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01856 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:51:09 -0500 Received: from coins0.coin.missouri.edu ([198.209.253.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:50:19 -0500 Received: from [128.206.209.84] (mizzou-as7-36.missouri.edu [128.206.209.84]) by coins0.coin.missouri.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA00554 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:49:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:49:55 -0500 X-Sender: ofajen@pop.coin.missouri.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ofajen@mail.coin.missouri.edu (otto fajen) Subject: Re: sgroup Cheers Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Thanks for the great response to my W-30 enquirey. > >I was wondering whether anyone knew if it would be:- > >a) Possible and >b) legal > >to send sample data over the net? it is possible and legal, so long as you are not (either knowingly or unknowingly) transmitting a copy of a commercial sample in violation of a copyright agreement or other restriction on duplication. otto - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 19:19:55 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25592 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:19:54 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA08683 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <114>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:04:25 -0500 Received: from frank.mtsu.edu ([161.45.128.109]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <24>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:01:08 -0500 Received: from localhost by frank.mtsu.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA148802389; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:53:09 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:53:08 -0500 From: Blondie To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R To whom this may concern, I am in the market for a new sampler. I need one similar to the old model Roland S-50 sampler. I need it (or one similar) for its capability to take a sample (in bank one, for instance) and break the sample up into pieces (into bank two, three, four, etc.) without resampling. Is there any sampler that does that and is on the market now? Thank you Joshua Smith - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 6 19:37:52 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25940 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:37:50 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <126>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:19:34 -0500 Received: from coins0.coin.missouri.edu ([198.209.253.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <67>; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 19:01:54 -0500 Received: from [128.206.209.84] (mizzou-as7-36.missouri.edu [128.206.209.84]) by coins0.coin.missouri.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01036 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 17:53:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 18:53:46 -0500 X-Sender: ofajen@pop.coin.missouri.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ofajen@mail.coin.missouri.edu (otto fajen) Subject: Re: sgroup filter control? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Does anybody know if there is a way to control the S-550's cut off and >resonance filters via an external source, ex: using live real time sys-ex >or controllers on a sequencer? The fact that the S series samplers has >analog filters is cool, but they are almost useless to me unless they are >tweakable in real time. actually, i think the s-series has digital filters. anyway, i believe the answer is no. the manual says nothing about it, nor does the midi implementation chart indicate that it will respond to a controller to change the filter cutoff. it's a bummer. i'd be delighted to be proven wrong on this. otto - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 7 01:14:15 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02397 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:14:10 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA11882 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <24>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:04:34 -0500 Received: from kaiwan009.kaiwan.com ([198.178.203.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:03:05 -0500 Received: from kaiwan.kaiwan.com (kaiwan077.kaiwan.com [198.178.203.77]) by kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA04297 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:02:59 -0800 (PST) *** KAIWAN Internet *** Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:02:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199703070602.WAA04297@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> X-Sender: smallman@pop.kaiwan.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Josh Smallman Subject: sgroup w30 SCSI option Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I was wondering how I would go about attatching a SCSI HD to my w-30. It has the port on the back, but can I attatch any SCSI HD to it? Would I have to format it, and would there be any easy way to copy files from my computers HD to it? j - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 7 01:32:15 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02680 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:32:14 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA12194 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:32:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <39>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:23:09 -0500 Received: from gaspra.kapsch.co.at ([148.198.8.60]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <26>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:22:18 -0500 Received: from rauris.kapsch.co.at by gaspra.kapsch.co.at (MX V4.2 VAX) with SMTP; Fri, 07 Mar 1997 07:21:58 +0200 Received: from gutau.kapsch.co.at by rauris.kapsch.co.at (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15489; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 07:20:08 +0100 Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970307062155.42afa8c4@rauris> X-Sender: ullrich@rauris X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 01:21:55 -0500 To: Becker , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca (roland) From: Peter Ullrich Subject: Re: sgroup SDK ???? please help Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 05:41 06.03.1997 -0500, Becker wrote: >Hi ! > >How can I change the S550/S7xx disks into >SDK-files ? > >There are some sdk-files on ftp, but most of the files >are in roland-s-format. > >I downloaded some and used sdisk. This all worked fine but >my PC couldnt read any files on the roland-disks. > >But I do need sdk-files !!! Load the Roland disk on your sampler and write on PC formatted (for S550: format a: /f:720) disks (not on sampler formatted disks). This works fine with my S330 and PC. (I had the same problem) Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto: ullrich@kapsch.co.at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 7 08:27:11 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA14159 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:27:10 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:17:56 -0500 Received: from INET-03-IMC.itg.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.23]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:17:07 -0500 Received: by INET-03-IMC.itg.microsoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC2AB6.B05DE810@INET-03-IMC.itg.microsoft.com>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 05:16:19 -0800 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'Josh Smallman'" , "'sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca'" Subject: RE: sgroup w30 SCSI option Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:21:22 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Encoding: 28 TEXT Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R you need a single chip which you can easily install yourself (open up the W.30 and there's a chip socket right behind the scsi port). You'll then need the SCSI operating system. You can get the chip from Roland spare parts, although it's apparently a pretty common SCSI chip that you can buy for about $5 in mail order. You can also get the SCSI manual for the W30 from Roland. Something that you might not like paying for but it explains a lot. remember : it'll let you use Roland CD-ROM discs, and SCSI harddrives but you can only format the drives to 40MB or 80MB >-----Original Message----- >From: Josh Smallman [SMTP:smallman@kaiwan.com] >Sent: 07 March 1997 06:03 >To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca >Subject: sgroup w30 SCSI option > > > I was wondering how I would go about attatching a SCSI HD to my >w-30. It has the port on the back, but can I attatch any SCSI HD to it? >Would I have to format it, and would there be any easy way to copy files >from my computers HD to it? > >j > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 7 13:53:37 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22169 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:53:37 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20533 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <26>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:42:54 -0500 Received: from cbgw2.lucent.com ([192.20.239.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <16>; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:42:04 -0500 Received: from aloft by cbig2.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id NAA10392; Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:40:19 -0500 Received: from kryton (kryton.micro.lucent.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M11.1) id AA19534; Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:41:53 EST Received: by kryton (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S3.1) id AA12383; Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:41:34 EST Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:41:34 -0500 From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <9703071841.AA12383@kryton> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup EMUSIC Playlist Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Playlist for "EMUSIC" on WDIY-FM, Allentown 88.1 FM in Allentown/Bethleham and 93.9 FM in Easton/Phillipsburg Show #7 March 6, 1997. Host: Bill Fox This show is the first in a month-long focus on Steve Roach. Each week, one of his CDs will be featured at midnight. In addition, a preview of the upcoming Star's End Gathering in Philadelphia was presented by playing the music of Bionaut. ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================= =============================== 11:00 pm Mike Metlay Band of Fire Band of Fire (Atomic City) Bionaut Odinsrune Au Naturel (Tiny Bubbles) Alpha Wave Movement Monolith The Edge of Infinity (Cue) Syndromeda Asian Memories Mind Trips (Cue) Eirik Lie Det Varen Lorag Aften 12 Bilder (Visuell Musikk) Inter-Mase Invisible Lights Tangerine Ambience (Hypnotic) Coyote Oldman Ancient Light In Beauty I Walk (HeartsOfSpace) Ric Miller Asimov's Robots Electronic Music Project (none) 12:00 am Steve Roach Void Memory One The Magnificent Void (HoS) Steve Roach Infinite Shore The Magnificent Void (HoS) Steve Roach Cloud Unknowing The Magnificent Void (HoS) Steve Roach Void Memory Two The Magnificent Void (HoS) Steve Roach Void Memory Three The Magnificent Void (HoS) Steve Roach The Magnificent Void The Magnificent Void (HoS) Steve Roach Altus The Magnificent Void (HoS) 1:00 am Sign off On next week's program, I'll continue to preview the upcoming Star's End Gathering on March 29th and continue the month-long spotlight on Steve Roach. The midnight feature CD will be Steve's most recent collaborative effort, "Cavern of Sirens." - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 8 13:14:50 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19033 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 13:14:49 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <192>; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 12:59:04 -0500 Received: from bcarsde4.localhost ([192.58.194.74]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <191>; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 12:58:13 -0500 Received: from bcarsfba.ott.bnr.ca by bcarsde4.localhost; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 12:50:12 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca by bcarsfba.bnr.ca id <11402-0@bcarsfba.bnr.ca>; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 12:32:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 12:32:00 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: "Bradley De Haan" Subject: sgroup drum samples Message-Id: <97Mar8.125813est.191@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone have or know where I can find good drums samples for my W30? I don't care what format they're in, just as long as I can convert them to be used on my sampler. I intend to use them for drum & bass, so breakbeats and dirty, punchy drums would be preferred. I'm looking for loops and single samples. Thanks in advance! Brad - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 8 17:36:28 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01292 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:36:27 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <193>; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:21:24 -0500 Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <191>; Sat, 8 Mar 1997 17:20:33 -0500 Received: from brutaleq.demon.co.uk ([158.152.124.52]) by relay-6.mail.demon.net id aa0606308; 8 Mar 97 21:55 GMT Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:53:53 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Eckersley Subject: Re: sgroup filter control? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.02 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R In message , TRanceFehr writes >Does anybody know if there is a way to control the S-550's cut off and >resonance filters via an external source, ex: using live real time sys-ex >or controllers on a sequencer? The fact that the S series samplers has >analog filters is cool, but they are almost useless to me unless they are >tweakable in real time. I don't know about the S-550, but on the W-30 you can tweak the cutoff point using aftertouch data (at patch parameter page: AT Assign C-O). This works well for me. Has the S-550 got something similar? ================================================================= Chris Eckersley chris@brutaleq.demon.co.uk "With One Wing On The Town & A Gleam In An Eye Of Red" ================================================================= - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 9 03:17:37 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23211 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 03:17:37 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA27200 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 03:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <194>; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 03:02:04 -0500 Received: from kaiwan009.kaiwan.com ([198.178.203.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <191>; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 03:01:13 -0500 Received: from kaiwan.kaiwan.com (kaiwan100.kaiwan.com [198.178.203.100]) by kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09131 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 00:00:52 -0800 (PST) *** KAIWAN Internet *** Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 03:00:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199703090800.AAA09131@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> X-Sender: smallman@pop.kaiwan.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Josh Smallman Subject: Re: sgroup drum samples Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 12:32 PM 3/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have or know where I can find good drums samples for my W30? I don't >care what format they're in, just as long as I can convert them to be used on my >sampler. > >I intend to use them for drum & bass, so breakbeats and dirty, punchy drums would >be preferred. I'm looking for loops and single samples. > > Thanks in advance! > > Brad > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > if you get those, could you pass the info on where over to me please? thanks. j - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 9 05:15:34 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA29735 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 05:15:33 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <194>; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 05:06:49 -0500 Received: from mail.netvision.net.il ([194.90.1.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <191>; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 05:05:39 -0500 Received: from Tomtal.netvision.net.il (ts006p4.pop4a.netvision.net.il [194.90.3.114]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA12329; Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:05:04 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:01:16 -0500 From: Eli Ginot Subject: RE: sgroup drum samples To: Bradley De Haan , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-Mailer: Chameleon - TCP/IP for Windows by NetManage, Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi! If you want some good drum&bass/jungle samples check out http://www.weazle.demon.co.uk/images/front/drum.htm it has .wav files which you can convert to your W30 using the w30 utilities in the sgroup ftp. bye.. Eli - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 10 10:12:19 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02105 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:12:15 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29379 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 10:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <192>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 09:59:33 -0500 Received: from ufrmsa1.olivetti.za ([160.124.247.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <191>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:58:35 -0500 Received: from AKTEST by ufrmsa1.olivetti.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0w3z2K-000CanC; Mon, 10 Mar 97 08:58 GMT+0200 Message-ID: <33243D2A.490A@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 11:56:10 -0500 From: Aubrey Reply-To: kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za Organization: Silent Project Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup RGB screen. References: <33206695.7572@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I would like a little bit of help. I have added the digital option into my S-760 and would like to know if you know if I would be able to connect a RGB screen to the system ok. I purchased an old TEDELEX screen and tried to connect to the S-760 with various resaults. In VIDIO mode, I get the screen displayed with the top and bottom shrunk. In RGB mode I get a lot of noise over the screen. Could you advise me? Thank you Aubrey South Africa ps - How do I get to use the 2 digital outs as analog outs? Do I have to put converters onto this? Is there a spec that I should follow? --- ********************************************* * e-mail : kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za * * tel : +27-21-21-2040 * * city : Cape Town * * url : ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers * ********************************************* - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 10 14:44:52 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA08473 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:44:51 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <193>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:33:43 -0500 Received: from www.agents-online.com ([207.87.0.33]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <191>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:32:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (sharvey@localhost) by www.agents-online.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00911 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:32:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:32:42 -0500 From: sharvey To: sgroup Subject: sgroup questions about upgrading... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hello all... I was briefly a lurker on this list some months ago, and now I'm back, with a couple of questions even. I've had my 760 for a while now, and think it's great. I've decided the time has come to add some external storage + more memory to it, however. I'm thinking of picking up a SCSI Zip Drive to store my samples on - this looks like the most economical option for me, since I seriously doubt I'll need access to more than 100 meg of samples at a time, in the near future at least. Have people's experiences using the Zip drive on the 760 been favorable? Anything "interesting" I should know before I buy? I also want to drop some more memory in the box, but have heard that standard PC memory isn't always the best choice. Does anybody have recommendations of a good place to get S760-friendly SIMMS via mail order? Thanks, Steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 10 18:27:56 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA13379 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:27:54 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <194>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:17:33 -0500 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.38]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <191>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:16:43 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id SAA15641; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:16:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:16:19 -0500 From: Windsound@aol.com Message-ID: <970310181453_-2041279875@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: sharvey@www.agents-online.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup questions about upgrading... Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R In a message dated 3/10/97 2:56:49 PM, you wrote: >Hello all... I was briefly a lurker on this list some months ago, and now >I'm back, with a couple of questions even. > >I've had my 760 for a while now, and think it's great. I've decided the >time has come to add some external storage + more memory to it, however. > >I'm thinking of picking up a SCSI Zip Drive to store my samples on - this >looks like the most economical option for me, since I seriously doubt I'll >need access to more than 100 meg of samples at a time, in the near future >at least. Have people's experiences using the Zip drive on the 760 been >favorable? Anything "interesting" I should know before I buy? > I bought a ZIP drive an while I haven't lost any data, I think it's incredibly cheap and worthless. I looked deeper into the options and chose to buy the SYS.230 magneto-optical drive supplied by Olympus. The drive is only $350 from MacWarehouse and a 5-pack of disks (each holds 230meg) is only $50. That's 1.15gig for only $50! Compare that with $150 for a 10-pack of ZIP disks which only gives you a total of 1gig. To top it off, data on a SYS.230 disk cannot be destroyed by magnetic fields (common in a studio), whereas the ZIP disks are nothing more than souped up floppies-and you know what can happen with them! I've had the SYS.230 drive now for about 4 months. VERY happy with it; it's solidly built and can handle rough bumps. Also, the SYS.230 cartridges are guaranteed for life! More: the ZIP drive can only be set to SCSI ID 5 or 6; SYS.230 can be set for any ID#. The SYS.230 also works great on the MAC platform for direct to disk (Sound Tools, etc.) recording. I have done this only in stereo. More than 2 tracks may be too much for the access time/transfer rates. But having an additional 130 meg compared to the ZIP disk is handy. That's more than an additional 10 minutes of audio. >I also want to drop some more memory in the box, but have heard that >standard PC memory isn't always the best choice. Does anybody have >recommendations of a good place to get S760-friendly SIMMS via mail order? Advantage Memory Corporation (in CA, USA) has memory specifically designed for the S-760. Mac SIMMS are not necessarily the best (something to do with the refresh rate.) - Anyway, it's also a bonus that Advantage has the lowest prices. And they guarantee their chips for life. I will provide a phone number at a later time, when I've had a chance to go through old invoices. In the meantime, you might try calling 1-800-555-1212 (800 information) for their number. Good luck! Todd Scales Composer/Arranger/Producer Windsound, Inc. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 10 18:44:12 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA13618 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:44:12 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <195>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:30:28 -0500 Received: from picard.netro.com.au ([203.13.33.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <191>; Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:28:32 -0500 Received: from mail.cppl.com.au ([203.17.247.1]) by picard.netro.com.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13172; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:28:00 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199703110027-12900@cppl.com.au> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:27:18 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail with Intergate/SMTP (v1.Free) From: anthonyb@cppl.com.au (Anthony Bennett) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, sharvey@www.agents-online.com Subject: RE: sgroup questions about upgrading... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I've been using a Zip with a S-760 for a while now without any problems. In fact, my Zip drive sits between my S-760 and my PC so both can access it and the S-760 can access the SCSI CD-ROMs in my PC. Just make sure you have S-760 OS v2.24. Re. the memory, I was told the same thing when I went to buy a 16MB SIMM. I purchased a 16MB EDO SIMM and have had no problems. Rgds, Anthony ---------- From: sharvey Sent: Monday, 10 March 1997 14:32 To: ANTHONYB; sgroup Subject: sgroup questions about upgrading... Hello all... I was briefly a lurker on this list some months ago, and now I'm back, with a couple of questions even. I've had my 760 for a while now, and think it's great. I've decided the time has come to add some external storage + more memory to it, however. I'm thinking of picking up a SCSI Zip Drive to store my samples on - this looks like the most economical option for me, since I seriously doubt I'll need access to more than 100 meg of samples at a time, in the near future at least. Have people's experiences using the Zip drive on the 760 been favorable? Anything "interesting" I should know before I buy? I also want to drop some more memory in the box, but have heard that standard PC memory isn't always the best choice. Does anybody have recommendations of a good place to get S760-friendly SIMMS via mail order? Thanks, Steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 11 02:47:49 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA21498 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:47:48 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <191>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:37:44 -0500 Received: from trappist.elis.rug.ac.be ([157.193.67.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:36:52 -0500 Received: from trappist.elis.rug.ac.be (cas0.elis.rug.ac.be [157.193.67.92]) by trappist.elis.rug.ac.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21435 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 08:36:20 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703110736.IAA21435@trappist.elis.rug.ac.be> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Serge Audenaert" Organization: RUG-ELIS To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 02:36:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup recycle SCSI S760 Reply-to: serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hello, I tried to address my S760 via SCSI from PC but whatever I try, The sampler doesn't get recognized as SCSI device from PC and the S760 doesn't recognize the PC as SCSI device. The ZIP drive that is in the same chain is recognized by PC and sampler. I use OS v2.23, in the PC an ADAPTEC 1505. PC ID=7, S760=4, ZIP=5. In RECYCLE only MIDI sample dump is possible. Does anyone have similar experiences? Serge. ===================================== ir. Serge Audenaert ELIS - Circuits en Systemen tel. +32 9 2643393 fax +32 9 2643594 email serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be 73444.2423@compuserve.com St. Pietersnieuwstr 41 9000 Gent Belgie ===================================== - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 11 04:41:14 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA27747 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:41:13 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <196>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:29:39 -0500 Received: from relay1.geis.com ([192.77.188.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 04:28:49 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by relay1.geis.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA23981 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:28:39 GMT From: t.dunbar2@genie.com Message-Id: <199703110928.JAA23981@relay1.geis.com> Received: by (genie.)relay1.geis.com ( 2rem/1.43 ) ; Tue, 11 Mar 97 09:28:39 GMT ( from inet# ; Tue, 11 Mar 97 09:20:03 GMT ) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 03:34:00 -0500 To: sharvey%www.agents-online.com%inet02#@genie.com Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca X-genie-QK-From: T.DUNBAR2 X-genie-QK-Id: 9582987 X-genie-Gateway-Id: 577 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: sgroup questions about upgradi Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply: Item #1425401 from SHARVEY@WWW.AGENTS-ONLINE.COM@INET02# Steve - I recently got a Zip drive for my S-760 and it's amazing. Being able to save a songs worth of patches without worrying you'll go over the limit is really cool. Also, for me 100 megs seems to be about right. I considered a Jaz drive, but I'd rather not have years worth of info on one disk, I'd rather have it on a few disks, because even looking through 100 megs worth of samples can be a lot of scrolling. Just my 2 cents worth - Tommy P.S. Todd's comments on the optical drive are interesting. P.P.S. Anyone know if there could be a problem mixing RAM? I've got Mac simms for 16 additional megs, and am considering buying some more. Todd mentioned the refresh rate, and I wondered if it could be a problem adding RAM with a different refresh rate, etc. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 11 10:22:21 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA04153 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:22:20 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <191>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:08:22 -0500 Received: from bcarsde4.localhost ([192.58.194.74]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:07:47 -0500 Received: from bcarsfba.ott.bnr.ca by bcarsde4.localhost; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:58:45 -0500 Received: from bnr.ca by bcarsfba.bnr.ca id <13878-0@bcarsfba.bnr.ca>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:39:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:32:00 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: "Bradley De Haan" Subject: sgroup External hd for W30 Message-Id: <97Mar11.100747est.126@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I want to add a hard drive to my W30 and I need a bit of info. I have the SCSI manual and it specifies a certain type and size of Mac hard drive. Can it be connected to any old SCSI drive or does it have to be the ones specified? SCSI is a standard right? So I'm assuming I can hook it up to any external SCSI drive and not just the Mac's. However, I also know there are three flavours of the SCSI specification. I would love some advice on these issues. What has worked for other people? Where are some places where I can find these drives? How much did you pay? Thanks again Brad - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 11 11:13:01 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05763 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:13:00 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <192>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:59:04 -0500 Received: from INET-03-IMC.itg.microsoft.com ([131.107.3.23]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 10:58:14 -0500 Received: by INET-03-IMC with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 07:57:06 -0800 From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'Bradley De Haan'" , sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: sgroup External hd for W30 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:02:55 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Message-Id: <97Mar11.105814est.126@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I hooked up three different drives : 2 of them were old Seagates that had been in Macs, one was 40MB, the other 80MB one of them was a HP drive that had been in a PC (it was a 350MB capacity , but of course only formatted to 80MB) i presume that you've installed the SCSI chip in the W30 and that you have the SCSI o/s software ? > -----Original Message----- > From: Bradley De Haan [SMTP:stu0v64a@nortel.ca] > Sent: 11 March 1997 14:32 > To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > Subject: sgroup External hd for W30 > > I want to add a hard drive to my W30 and I need a bit of info. I have > the SCSI > manual and it specifies a certain type and size of Mac hard drive. > Can it be > connected to any old SCSI drive or does it have to be the ones > specified? > SCSI is a standard right? So I'm assuming I can hook it up to any > external SCSI > drive and not just the Mac's. However, I also know there are three > flavours of > the SCSI specification. > > I would love some advice on these issues. What has worked for other > people? > Where are some places where I can find these drives? How much did you > pay? > > Thanks again > > Brad > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 11 17:23:17 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18340 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:23:16 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05594 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <191>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:11:35 -0500 Received: from picard.netro.com.au ([203.13.33.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 17:10:44 -0500 Received: from mail.cppl.com.au ([203.17.247.1]) by picard.netro.com.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20953; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:10:02 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199703112309-52750@cppl.com.au> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:09:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail with Intergate/SMTP (v1.Free) From: anthonyb@cppl.com.au (Anthony Bennett) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be Subject: RE: sgroup recycle SCSI S760 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I've had similar problems with Sound Forge 4.0 which supports both SCSI sample dump and MIDI sample dump. With the S-760 I've only been successful with MIDI sample dump. My setup is almost identical with a Zip drive between my PC and S-760 except my SCSI Adapter is an Adaptec AHA-2960U. Has anyone managed to get a SCSI sample dump happening with the S-760 and a PC based digital audio editing package? Rgds, Anthony ---------- From: serge.audenaert Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 1997 2:36 To: ANTHONYB; sgroup Subject: sgroup recycle SCSI S760 Hello, I tried to address my S760 via SCSI from PC but whatever I try, The sampler doesn't get recognized as SCSI device from PC and the S760 doesn't recognize the PC as SCSI device. The ZIP drive that is in the same chain is recognized by PC and sampler. I use OS v2.23, in the PC an ADAPTEC 1505. PC ID=7, S760=4, ZIP=5. In RECYCLE only MIDI sample dump is possible. Does anyone have similar experiences? Serge. ===================================== ir. Serge Audenaert ELIS - Circuits en Systemen tel. +32 9 2643393 fax +32 9 2643594 email serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be 73444.2423@compuserve.com St. Pietersnieuwstr 41 9000 Gent Belgie ===================================== - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 11 19:51:21 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA20558 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:51:20 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <191>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:40:47 -0500 Received: from smtp3.erols.com ([205.252.116.103]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:39:42 -0500 Received: from mikeb.erols.com (spg-as76s28.erols.com [207.172.29.112]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00869 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:39:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199703120039.TAA00869@smtp3.erols.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Will Moore" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:42:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: sgroup questions about upgrading... Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199703110027-12900@cppl.com.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Anthony, would you mind elaborating on how you have the PC and the S-760 set up? That would be tres nifty. Thanks! Will > From: anthonyb@cppl.com.au (Anthony Bennett) > Subject: RE: sgroup questions about upgrading... > I've been using a Zip with a S-760 for a while now without any > problems. In fact, my Zip drive sits between my S-760 and my PC so > both can access it and the S-760 can access the SCSI CD-ROMs in my > PC. Just make sure you have S-760 OS v2.24. > > Re. the memory, I was told the same thing when I went to buy a 16MB > SIMM. I purchased a 16MB EDO SIMM and have had no problems. > > Rgds, > Anthony > > ---------- > From: sharvey > Sent: Monday, 10 March 1997 14:32 > To: ANTHONYB; sgroup > Subject: sgroup questions about upgrading... > > Hello all... I was briefly a lurker on this list some months ago, > and now I'm back, with a couple of questions even. > > I've had my 760 for a while now, and think it's great. I've decided > the time has come to add some external storage + more memory to it, > however. > > I'm thinking of picking up a SCSI Zip Drive to store my samples on - > this looks like the most economical option for me, since I seriously > doubt I'll need access to more than 100 meg of samples at a time, > in the near future at least. Have people's experiences using the > Zip drive on the 760 been favorable? Anything "interesting" I > should know before I buy? > > I also want to drop some more memory in the box, but have heard that > standard PC memory isn't always the best choice. Does anybody have > recommendations of a good place to get S760-friendly SIMMS via mail > order? > > > Thanks, > Steve > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to > majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > --------------- Bleep. Bleep. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 12 03:51:05 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA28221 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:51:04 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <191>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:40:21 -0500 Received: from zNET.com ([207.167.64.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:39:28 -0500 Received: from xeviousland (sdts3-81.znet.com [207.167.66.81]) by zNET.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/jjb-sd01) with SMTP id AAA25002 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:39:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703120839.AAA25002@zNET.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Xevious Communications To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 03:37:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sgroup External hd for W30 Reply-to: xevious@znet.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <97Mar11.100747est.126@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > I would love some advice on these issues. What has worked for other > people? Where are some places where I can find these drives? How > much did you pay? > I've found that the Quantum 40, 80, and 100mb drives all work well with the W30, and they can be found very cheaply on the various USENET forsale newsgroups. _______________________________________________ _|ames \/\/. Thomas >; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:44:58 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <192>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:34:40 -0500 Received: from tin.it ([195.31.190.111]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:33:50 -0500 Received: from unknown ([195.31.141.213]) by mbox.vol.it with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA137033613; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:33:33 +0100 Message-Id: Priority: Normal X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: "Sgroup Roland Discussion" Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Eliche in Funzione" Subject: sgroup Roland S550 and IOMega ZIP Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:30:58 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Is possible to use the SCSI IOMega Zip(100 Mbyte) with Roland S550?? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 12 22:59:29 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24726 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:59:28 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA27003 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:59:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <193>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:46:18 -0500 Received: from watson.dn.net ([206.43.192.76]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:45:28 -0500 Received: from uu1.dn.net (uu1.dn.net [206.197.81.20]) by watson.dn.net (8.7.5/dn.mail3-gem/eal) with ESMTP id WAA04316; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:45:17 -0500 (GMT-0500) Received: from csgi.com (uucp@localhost) by uu1.dn.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id WAA04465; Wed, 12 Mar 1997 22:04:24 -0500 From: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com (Doug Ramsay) Reply-To: Doug_Ramsay@csgi.com To: eliche@mbox.vol.it Cc: Sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S550 and IOMega ZIP Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 16:16:36 -0500 Message-Id: <1888722414.417048@csgi.com> Organization: digitalNATION Internet Services Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On 3/12/97 at 10:30 PM, Eliche in Funzione wrote: EiF> Is possible to use the SCSI IOMega Zip(100 Mbyte) with Roland S550?? Possibly, but udnerstand that the S550 will only "see" (use) no more than 80MB of HD space, no matter how big the external HD. Doug ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ / `-- / ,,, |[====|||||||||||[:::} "My kinda g-strings" \__.-._\ ``` ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Funk Lab!/Acknowledge Him Productions >>>>>>>> doug _ramsay@csgi.com <<<<<<<<<<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - via BulkRate 2.0 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sent via digitalNATION Online Services http://www.dn.net Provider of Internet Access & Highspeed Web Server Services Specializing in WWW Solutions for Commerce & Enterprise ph:(703) 642-2800 fax: (703) 642-0516 email:info@dn.net -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 13 07:01:20 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07973 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 07:01:19 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA01749 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 07:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <194>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 06:51:23 -0500 Received: from saturn.theplanet.co.uk ([194.152.64.36]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 06:50:33 -0500 Received: from codemasters.com(really [195.92.57.66]) by saturn.theplanet.co.uk via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 13 Mar 97 11:50:19 +0000 (GMT) (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.4 built 29-jan-96) Message-Id: Received: from maclure.codemast by codemasters.com with SMTP id AA858253826 ; Thu, 13 Mar 97 11:50:26 +0000 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Richard Aplin" To: Sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 06:49:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup Magneto-optical drives Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I've got an S750, which I use with an IBM 128Mb optical drive (the precursor to the 230Mb version), and it's fantastic. I really, really recommend optical drives (which are pretty cheap nowadays). They're exceptionally reliable in my experience - I've now got 3 drives - one internally in an Akai S3200, one external 230Mb for general backup work, and the old IBM drive. All work faultlessly, and I have never had a disk error, even though one of the disks was abused quite nastily (coffee!). A careful wash and polish of the disk, and it worked! Just my thoughts, Richard Aplin --- Rich Aplin [richap@codemasters.com] Hardware,Software,Vapourware... you know, geek stuff. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 13 08:52:07 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA09794 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:52:06 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <195>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:41:02 -0500 Received: from uicc.com ([199.201.200.231]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:40:08 -0500 Received: by firewall.uicc.com id <5754>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:38:19 -0500 Message-Id: <97Mar13.083819est.5754@firewall.uicc.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:40:12 -0500 From: "'Ace of Grace'" Organization: Unitrode Integrated Circuits X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; U; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eliche in Funzione CC: Sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S550 and IOMega ZIP References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Eliche in Funzione wrote: > > Is possible to use the SCSI IOMega Zip(100 Mbyte) with Roland S550?? > > - > Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca > For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca I'm not sure about using an Iomega zip, but the HD-5 interface is copatable with CMS, Microtech, Micronet, Electon, Dyatech Hard drives up to 80MB . For some reason a Syquest-105 worked, but formatted the disks only to 80MB A company called 'Tonegenics' made an upgrade for the S-550 which allowed use of a Syquest 44MB drive. Regards, Ace - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 13 12:43:15 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA14402 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:43:14 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <196>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:31:03 -0500 Received: from trappist.elis.rug.ac.be ([157.193.67.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:35:05 -0500 Received: from trappist.rug.elis.ac.be (cas7.elis.rug.ac.be [157.193.67.30]) by trappist.elis.rug.ac.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA09633 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:34:48 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703130734.IAA09633@trappist.elis.rug.ac.be> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Serge Audenaert" Organization: RUG-ELIS To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:34:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sgroup recycle SCSI S760 Reply-to: serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Since clearly there are some problems addressing the S760 with SCSI and PC, here is a basic setup for making things work. Unfortunately this doesn' t work in my case but it could help out a few people. Serge. > * pcpentium scsi adaptec 1542 cp + recycle: I can't transfer by > scsi anything... recycle manual says that one should install > aspi drivers from dos (before you should discharge windows95 scsi > drivers..) but it doesn't seem too easy for me.Who knows how to > install thoses drivers? First in win95 Control Panel-> System -> Device Manager -> SCSI controllers you have to unmark the device usage checkbox. You probably then have to restart first. Then you check the drivers that came with your SCSI controller or pick the most recent ones from the net http://www.adaptec.com and in config.sys you install the ASPIxDOS.SYS driver where x is a card specific number In my case (1505) this should read (first line of config) DEVICE=ASPI2DOS.SYS /D /Z By then during reboot if you do the step by step boot (F8 5) you should see the driver find your SCSI devices. In my case it goes wrong there already since only the ZIP drive is found. Good luck. Serge. ===================================== ir. Serge Audenaert ELIS - Circuits en Systemen tel. +32 9 2643393 fax +32 9 2643594 email serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be 73444.2423@compuserve.com St. Pietersnieuwstr 41 9000 Gent Belgie ===================================== - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 13 12:59:03 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA14677 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:58:57 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <198>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:44:06 -0500 Received: from delta.qmw.ac.uk ([138.37.6.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:05:51 -0500 Received: from qmwcc6.qmw.ac.uk by delta.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP-WORLD; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:05:35 +0000 Received: from QMWCC6/MAILQUEUE by qmwcc6.qmw.ac.uk (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 13 Mar 97 13:08:14 GMT0BST Received: from MAILQUEUE by QMWCC6 (Mercury 1.13); Thu, 13 Mar 97 13:08:10 GMT0BST From: "A.A.WOLTERS" Organization: Queen Mary and Westfield College To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:08:02 -0500 Subject: sgroup director s for s330 Original-Reply-to: a.a.wolters" FA4083@QMW.AC.UK PP-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding Reply-to line Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Message-ID: <211DF2957C7@qmwcc6.qmw.ac.uk> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R does anyone have, or know where to obtain a copy of director s (a sequencer) for the roland s330 sampler. I called roland and they don't sell or distribute it any more, but they said that i might be able to get it on the net. cheers in advance of any help. adam fa4083@qmwcc6.qmw.ac.uk - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 13 16:15:02 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA19925 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:15:02 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <199>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:04:11 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu ([128.32.155.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:03:19 -0500 Received: from [128.32.203.209] (hav307-13.SPH.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.203.209]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA01760 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:03:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.4 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:03:01 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: ckirkham@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Chris Kirkham) Subject: Re: sgroup Magneto-optical drives Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R While on the topic, I have been thinking about getting a MO drive for my S760 in the 600MB range. Anyone happy with a particular drive? How have the PD drives been working? Are they slow? >I've got an S750, which I use with an IBM 128Mb optical drive (the >precursor to the 230Mb version), and it's fantastic. I really, really >recommend optical drives (which are pretty cheap nowadays). They're >exceptionally reliable in my experience - I've now got 3 drives - one >internally in an Akai S3200, one external 230Mb for general backup >work, and the old IBM drive. All work faultlessly, and I have >never had a disk error, even though one of the disks was abused quite >nastily (coffee!). A careful wash and polish of the disk, and it >worked! Chris Kirkham ckirkham@uclink4.berkeley.edu (510)665-1986 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 13 16:32:12 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA20244 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:32:12 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <200>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:18:49 -0500 Received: from wr.com.au ([203.12.42.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:17:37 -0500 Received: from dialup37.wr.com.au by wr.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4-1.0) id AC01797; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:16:47 +1100 Message-Id: <9703132116.AC01797@wr.com.au> From: "Bernie Maier" To: "Roland Samplers List" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 07:04:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Bernie Maier" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.5 UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sgroup Zip drive and SCSI questions Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R sharvey wrote: >I'm thinking of picking up a SCSI Zip Drive to store my samples on - this >looks like the most economical option for me, since I seriously doubt I'll >need access to more than 100 meg of samples at a time, in the near future >at least. Have people's experiences using the Zip drive on the 760 been >favorable? Anything "interesting" I should know before I buy? The Zip drive has worked well for me with my S-760. Anthony Bennett wrote: >I've been using a Zip with a S-760 for a while now without any problems. >In fact, my Zip drive sits between my S-760 and my PC so both can access >it and the S-760 can access the SCSI CD-ROMs in my PC. Just make sure you >have S-760 OS v2.24. Likewise, I share the Zip drive (and a CD-ROM drive) between my PC and S-760. I've used the Zip drive with OSes prior to v2.24 without any problems, so I'm still curious about what 2.24 is supposed to fix. Will Moore wrote: >Anthony, would you mind elaborating on how you have the PC and the >S-760 set up? That would be tres nifty. Thanks! I can reply to this also (you'll need to view with a monospaced font): PC PC External External Adaptec 2940 <---> Fixed disk <---> Zip drive <---> CD ROM drive <---> S-760 host adapter SCSI ID=6 SCSI ID=0 SCSI ID=5 SCSI ID=3 SCSI ID=4 Terminated I think the S-760 terminates the SCSI bus internally. Regards, Bernie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bernie Maier "Death needs time." "Question: Why does death need time?" "Death needs time for what it kills to grow in..." William S. Burroughs - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 13 16:55:03 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20702 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:55:02 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA05897 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <201>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:40:54 -0500 Received: from picard.netro.com.au ([203.13.33.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:39:19 -0500 Received: from mail.cppl.com.au ([203.17.247.1]) by picard.netro.com.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA18207; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:38:54 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199703132238-7672@cppl.com.au> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:38:09 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail with Intergate/SMTP (v1.Free) From: anthonyb@cppl.com.au (Anthony Bennett) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be Subject: RE: sgroup recycle SCSI S760 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R So what you're saying is that the you need to use DOS mode drivers (ASPIxDOS.SYS) in your CONFIG.SYS under Win95 and remove the Win95 driver to make this work. I've heard this before and was told that I'd have to do the same thing if I wanted to have my SCSI Zip drive connected to both my PC and my S-760 simultaneously. While it was true with the Future Domain TMC-1660 SCSI controller (only under Win95 though, WinNT 4.0 was fine) I had in my old PC when I upgraded to a new PC I bought an Adaptec AHA-2960U and have had no problems getting both PC and S-760 talking to the Zip drive. FYI, I am using Win95 OSR2 with the current drivers from Adaptec's website. Now while this is not quite the same as trying to get Recycle or Sound Forge doing SCSI dumps to an S-760 under Win95 the reason for the problem is the same - the mimimal SCSI implementation in most Win95 SCSI drivers, most notable the ones that ship with Win95 itself. Rgds, Anthony ---------- From: serge.audenaert Sent: Thursday, 13 March 1997 2:34 To: ANTHONYB; sgroup Subject: Re: sgroup recycle SCSI S760 Since clearly there are some problems addressing the S760 with SCSI and PC, here is a basic setup for making things work. Unfortunately this doesn' t work in my case but it could help out a few people. Serge. > * pcpentium scsi adaptec 1542 cp + recycle: I can't transfer by > scsi anything... recycle manual says that one should install > aspi drivers from dos (before you should discharge windows95 scsi > drivers..) but it doesn't seem too easy for me.Who knows how to > install thoses drivers? First in win95 Control Panel-> System -> Device Manager -> SCSI controllers you have to unmark the device usage checkbox. You probably then have to restart first. Then you check the drivers that came with your SCSI controller or pick the most recent ones from the net http://www.adaptec.com and in config.sys you install the ASPIxDOS.SYS driver where x is a card specific number In my case (1505) this should read (first line of config) DEVICE=ASPI2DOS.SYS /D /Z By then during reboot if you do the step by step boot (F8 5) you should see the driver find your SCSI devices. In my case it goes wrong there already since only the ZIP drive is found. Good luck. Serge. ===================================== ir. Serge Audenaert ELIS - Circuits en Systemen tel. +32 9 2643393 fax +32 9 2643594 email serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be 73444.2423@compuserve.com St. Pietersnieuwstr 41 9000 Gent Belgie ===================================== - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 14 00:14:05 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA27480 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:14:04 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <202>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:03:28 -0500 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.41]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:02:39 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id AAA13974 for sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:02:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:02:32 -0500 From: Windsound@aol.com Message-ID: <970314000231_-1338386039@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup PC & S760 in same SCSI chain Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R For all those having difficulty getting their PC & S760 to funtion on the same SCSI chain... Get a MAC. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 14 00:34:39 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA27768 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:34:38 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA24041 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:34:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <207>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:23:33 -0500 Received: from getnet.com ([204.157.9.29]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:21:40 -0500 Received: from [206.43.176.124] (ax3-p12.getnet.com [206.43.176.124]) by getnet.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA19508 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:21:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:21:31 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <970314000231_-1338386039@emout15.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: TRanceFehr Subject: Re: sgroup PC & S760 in same SCSI chain Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >For all those having difficulty getting their PC & S760 to funtion on the >same SCSI chain... > >Get a MAC. > > Ha! I hear ya... People always have to do things the hard way...that's why PCs are more popular and Bill Gates is a billionare. Joe - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 14 00:59:03 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA28088 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:59:02 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA01886 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <203>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:49:06 -0500 Received: from kaiwan009.kaiwan.com ([198.178.203.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:48:31 -0500 Received: from kaiwan.kaiwan.com (kaiwan075.kaiwan.com [198.178.203.75]) by kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA20806 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:48:23 -0800 (PST) *** KAIWAN Internet *** Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:48:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199703140548.VAA20806@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> X-Sender: smallman@pop.kaiwan.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Josh Smallman Subject: sgroup w-30 & PC Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R After hearing all this talk regarding the s760 and connecting them to PC's, is it possible to do the same with my w-30? And could I attach a ZIP drive to it too? j - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 14 02:24:32 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA29201 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:24:30 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <208>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:14:09 -0500 Received: from ufrmsa1.olivetti.za ([160.124.247.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:13:17 -0500 Received: from AKTEST by ufrmsa1.olivetti.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0w5RAe-000CfUC; Fri, 14 Mar 97 09:12 GMT+0200 Message-ID: <332985B5.67D5@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:07:01 -0500 From: Aubrey Reply-To: kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za Organization: Silent Project Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup SCSI, ReCycle, and SoundForge. References: <33297E8C.8BC@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R note. Please can we refrain from the mac users ripping off the pc users? We are here to learn from one another not to bitch about operating systems. You might have a mac, be on aol and be the laughing stock of your friends, keep it on your own turf. I am a Software engineer and use a pc :) I think that Roland's products are great (up to a point) but think that there SCSI implimentation of the S760 sucks! They could realy have written the SCSI implimentation to the SCSI-2 standard, instead of using an inhouse standard. I talk to various SCSI units at the same time, including my S-760. I use ReCycle and find that it does the job 100%. As long as you stick to the installation guide of ReCycle 1.6 (Availabe at Stienberg or Propellerhead's WWW page - Check out the cool 303 emulator, it is realy a kick-ass piece of PC software! At www.propellerheads.se ) you will not have any problems. Now for my question: Is there a release of SoundForge that does SCSI transfers to and from the S-760? If so, what release is it? Thank you Aubrey Kloppers South Africa -- ********************************************* * e-mail : kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za * * tel : +27-21-21-2040 * * city : Cape Town * * url : ufrmsa1.olivetti.za/~kloppers * ********************************************* - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 14 06:02:41 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07325 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:02:41 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA16980 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <209>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 05:51:48 -0500 Received: from zNET.com ([207.167.64.5]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 05:51:06 -0500 Received: from xeviousland (sdts3-64.znet.com [207.167.66.64]) by zNET.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/jjb-sd01) with SMTP id CAA10640 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:50:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703141050.CAA10640@zNET.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "James W. Thomas" Organization: Xevious Communications To: Sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 05:46:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S550 and IOMega ZIP Reply-to: xevious@znet.com Priority: normal In-reply-to: <97Mar13.083819est.5754@firewall.uicc.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > I'm not sure about using an Iomega zip, but the HD-5 interface is > copatable with CMS, Microtech, Micronet, Electon, Dyatech Hard > drives up to 80MB . For some reason a Syquest-105 worked, but > formatted the disks only to 80MB > I once hooked up a 700mb Quantum to my W30, and it worked fine, except that it formatted it to 80mb. I think there's an excellent chance that any newer SCSI compliant device would work with the 550 or W30. If anyone has used a zip with a W30, please post! _______________________________________________ _|ames \/\/. Thomas >; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:03:40 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <210>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:53:01 -0500 Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.9]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:52:10 -0500 Received: from gascoigne.demon.co.uk ([194.222.138.212]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net id aa0517890; 14 Mar 97 12:10 GMT X-Sender: (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 07:12:54 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: brian gascoigne Subject: Re: sgroup Magneto-optical drives Message-ID: <858341432.0517890.0@gascoigne.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >While on the topic, I have been thinking about getting a MO drive for my >S760 in the 600MB range. Anyone happy with a particular drive? How have >the PD drives been working? Are they slow? > I use a Sony SMO-F521 MOD double-sided 650Mb per side, with no problems. Make sure you get disks that are formatted at 512 Bytes/sector and not 1024, as this is what the 760 likes. I keep the sample library on that and keep a fast hard disk for current projects. I don't have these on the Computer's SCSI bus, as you can tell from the current thread that computers and samplers can't see each other on SCSi. Not to mention distance problems. You have to go via a sample import or treatment program. Unsatisfactory. Regards Brian - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 16 20:04:06 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02942 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:04:05 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <184>; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:48:26 -0500 Received: from mail1.sn.no ([194.143.8.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:47:32 -0500 Received: from hasle.sn.no (hasle.sn.no [194.143.8.25]) by mail1.sn.no (8.7.5/8.7.3/on4) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:47:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from [194.143.92.198] (lillehammer2-5.ppp.sn.no [194.143.92.198]) by hasle.sn.no (8.6.13/on1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:47:09 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:47:40 -0500 To: "Eliche in Funzione" From: Stein Tore Sonsteli Subject: Re: sgroup Roland S550 and IOMega ZIP Cc: Sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Is possible to use the SCSI IOMega Zip(100 Mbyte) with Roland S550?? > I tried this when searching for a compatible SCSI-HD. The S-550 was able to recognise the ZIP-drive as a SCSI-unit, but was unable to format a ZIP-disk. Too bad, because a ZIP would be the ultimate storing device for a S-550. Stein Tore Stein Tore Sonsteli Post Pro Studio - Lillehammer, Norway e-mail: ssonstel@sn.no - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 16 20:19:38 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA03171 for ; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:19:37 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <182>; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:04:00 -0500 Received: from mail1.sn.no ([194.143.8.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:47:37 -0500 Received: from hasle.sn.no (hasle.sn.no [194.143.8.25]) by mail1.sn.no (8.7.5/8.7.3/on4) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:47:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from [194.143.92.198] (lillehammer2-5.ppp.sn.no [194.143.92.198]) by hasle.sn.no (8.6.13/on1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:47:13 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <97Mar11.100747est.126@lotus.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 19:47:43 -0500 To: "Bradley De Haan" From: Stein Tore Sonsteli Subject: Re: sgroup External hd for W30 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I want to add a hard drive to my W30 and I need a bit of info. I have the >SCSI >manual and it specifies a certain type and size of Mac hard drive. Can it be >connected to any old SCSI drive or does it have to be the ones specified? >SCSI is a standard right? So I'm assuming I can hook it up to any >external SCSI >drive and not just the Mac's. However, I also know there are three >flavours of >the SCSI specification. > >I would love some advice on these issues. What has worked for other people? >Where are some places where I can find these drives? How much did you pay? > > Thanks again > > Brad > > I use an old Quantum 270 Mb with my S-550. Works fine. Stein Tore Stein Tore Sonsteli Post Pro Studio - Lillehammer, Norway e-mail: ssonstel@sn.no - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 17 09:50:14 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20172 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:50:13 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA27474 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <185>; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:34:29 -0500 Received: from cbgw1.lucent.com ([192.20.239.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:33:38 -0500 Received: from aloft by cbig1.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id JAA12916; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:25:52 -0500 Received: from kryton (kryton.micro.lucent.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M11.1) id AA09939; Mon, 17 Mar 97 09:33:34 EST Received: by kryton (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S3.1) id AA19742; Mon, 17 Mar 97 09:33:33 EST Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 09:33:33 -0500 From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <9703171433.AA19742@kryton> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup EMUSIC Playlist Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Playlist for "EMUSIC" on WDIY-FM, Allentown 88.1 FM in Allentown/Bethleham and 93.9 FM in Easton/Phillipsburg Show #8 March 13, 1997. Host: Bill Fox This show is the second in a month-long focus on Steve Roach. Each week, one of his CDs will be featured at midnight. In addition, a preview of the upcoming Star's End Gathering in Philadelphia was presented by playing the music of Bionaut. ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================= =============================== 11:00 pm Synergy (Larry Fast) Sequence 14 Sequencer (Third Contact) Bionaut Orb This Au Naturel (Tiny Bubbles) Ron Boots Of Desolate Places And Urban Jungles (Amplexus) Roedelius Reflektorium Multimood Sampler '86-'96 Satori Lament Invisible Rhythm (Ancient Sun) 12:00 am S. Roach/V. Obmana HiddenEarth&ShadowsDanceCavern of Sirens (Projekt) S. Roach/V. Obmana Middle World Passage Cavern of Sirens (Projekt) S. Roach/V. Obmana The Current Below Cavern of Sirens (Projekt) S. Roach/V. Obmana The Graceful Sky Cavern of Sirens (Projekt) 1:00 am Sign off On next week's program, I'll continue to preview the upcoming Star's End Gathering on March 29th and continue the month-long spotlight on Steve Roach. The midnight feature CD will be "World's Edge" on the Fortuna label. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 17 15:09:13 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26981 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:09:11 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <187>; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:53:01 -0500 Received: from mail1.grove.ufl.EDU ([128.227.8.81]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:52:10 -0500 Received: from birch.grove.ufl.EDU (hotrod@grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.10]) by mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA31124; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by birch.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3/3) with SMTP id OAA05871; Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:51:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 14:51:45 -0500 From: grilledcheese X-Sender: hotrod@birch To: "A.A.WOLTERS" cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup director s for s330 In-Reply-To: <211DF2957C7@qmwcc6.qmw.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, A.A.WOLTERS wrote: > does anyone have, or know where to obtain a copy of director s (a > sequencer) for the roland s330 sampler. I called roland and they i have it, i dont know if you really want it tho. well, thats a bit harsh, but really, you need a little "owners key" as roland calls it to save your songs. its a plug that you stick into the mouse jack on the 330 when you want to save. if you can get an "owners key" id be happy to send/email/upload you the director-s system disk. as you may already know, dir. s is pattern based, 96 cloks per q. note. mike - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 18 20:53:20 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04661 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:53:19 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <189>; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:41:30 -0500 Received: from hil-img-6.compuserve.com ([149.174.177.136]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:40:41 -0500 Received: by hil-img-6.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id UAA21977; Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:40:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:40:23 -0500 From: "Bruce J. Tovsky" Subject: sgroup HDIF+S550+EZ135=OK To: sgroup Message-ID: <199703182040_MC2-12C6-CB4C@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R On a whim I hooked up my Syquest EZ135 to my S550, went through the setup procedures in my HDIF manual and voila, the S550 formatted the EZ135 cart at 80mb (the S550 limit) and allows storage of 64 discs worth of samples! And it loads twice as fast as a floppy, about the same speed as the CD-ROM. BTW, a software developer named Stefano Daino has written a very handy program called D-Sound-Pro which will load AND SAVE TO Roland disks, as well as do MIDI sample dumps. It's also a very cool sample editor/processor, cross format convertor, etc. It's all over the place on the web and places like Compuserve. Check it out. Bruce - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 19 01:05:54 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA08908 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:05:52 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <190>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:55:27 -0500 Received: from picard.netro.com.au ([203.13.33.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 00:54:37 -0500 Received: from mail.cppl.com.au (dialup02.netro.com.au [203.13.33.12]) by picard.netro.com.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08132 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:54:21 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199703190653-48432@cppl.com.au> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:53:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail with Intergate/SMTP (v1.Free) From: anthonyb@cppl.com.au (Anthony Bennett) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Apple 12X CD-ROM & S-760 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi All, Does anyone know if the latest Apple 12X External SCSI CD-ROM drive (sorry, don't know exact model number) is compatible with the S-760? Is the S-760 capable of making use (ie, faster load times) of the higher transfer rates of the 12X over 8X CD-ROM drives or does it plateau out at some point? Thanks, Anthony Bennett - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 19 01:58:50 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA09513 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:58:44 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <191>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:49:08 -0500 Received: from relay6.UU.NET ([192.48.96.16]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:48:02 -0500 Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: [148.198.8.2]) id QQchmx17296; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from rauris.kapsch.co.at by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V4.2 AXP) with SMTP; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:47:41 +0100 Received: from gutau.kapsch.co.at by rauris.kapsch.co.at (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14708; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:45:36 +0100 Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970319064738.475fdd88@rauris> X-Sender: ullrich@rauris X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 01:47:38 -0500 To: "Bruce J. Tovsky" , sgroup From: Peter Ullrich Subject: Re: sgroup HDIF+S550+EZ135=OK Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >BTW, a software developer named Stefano Daino has written a very handy >program called >D-Sound-Pro which will load AND SAVE TO Roland disks, as well as do MIDI >sample dumps. >It's also a very cool sample editor/processor, cross format convertor, etc. >It's all >over the place on the web and places like Compuserve. Check it out. I only found a MAC-release of this software. Is there also a PC version ? Does this program run under the MAC-Emulator EXECUTOR (Apple System Version 6)? Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto: ullrich@kapsch.co.at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 19 06:13:21 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18073 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:13:18 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA03240 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <192>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:01:29 -0500 Received: from relay2.UU.NET ([192.48.96.7]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:00:04 -0500 Received: from mars.kapsch.co.at by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: [148.198.8.2]) id QQchnn29521; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 05:59:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from rauris.kapsch.co.at by mars.kapsch.co.at (MX V4.2 AXP) with SMTP; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:59:50 +0100 Received: from gutau.kapsch.co.at by rauris.kapsch.co.at (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15574; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:57:48 +0100 Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19970319105949.4a375cd0@rauris> X-Sender: ullrich@rauris X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 05:59:49 -0500 To: sgroup From: Peter Ullrich Subject: D-SOUND-PRO / Re: sgroup HDIF+S550+EZ135=OK Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I emailed the author of D-Sound-Pro (Stefano Daino) and asked for a PC-version of the program. -> There is no PC-version at the moment, sorry :( But there is a new version for the MAC: The new version of D-SoundPRO, the 2.5, is now available. Now it supports the write to Roland disk function, and full midi I/O for S50, S330 and S550 samplers (and many other features...). You can always find the last version of D-SoundPRO at: http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Mac http://www.synthzone.com/dsound.htm http://www.shareware.com into Compuserve database, (MIDI Forum) or into Info-mac database I hope that helps (only the MAC-users...) Sorry for the PC users (and me) Ciao Peter \|/ (o o) --oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------------------------ Ing. Peter Ullrich mailto: ullrich@kapsch.co.at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3586/ Hardware & Software Developer / Electronic Musician .oooO KAPSCH AG / SGB2 Vienna / Austria ( ) Oooo. Traffic Control and Transmission Technology ----\ (----( )------------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/ - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 19 11:04:45 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24190 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:04:44 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <193>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:51:41 -0500 Received: from switzerland.it.earthlink.net ([204.119.177.45]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:13:22 -0500 Received: from Default (max2-so-ca-33.earthlink.net [206.149.202.84]) by switzerland.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA03050 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 07:12:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:12:54 -0500 From: mysymphony@earthlink.net Message-Id: <199703191512.HAA03050@switzerland.it.earthlink.net> X-Sender: mysymphony@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup 750/760 scsi question Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Well, I finally got a 760, and will be selling one of my two 750's to help pay for it. But I will then be hooking up a 750 and 760 in the same scsi chain. Has anyone else done that? Any suggestions? My 750 starts up from a formated 730 mg Quantum external in the scsi chain with system 2.24. Roland told me that the 760 would read my performance files from the harddrive, but would have to start up with system 2.25... so it sounds like I will need to start up the 760 from a floppy first, then turn on the harddrive, and then startup the 750 from that... does this make any sense? thanks, mark <<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>> <>DesertWavesmusic8306wilshireblvd#879beverlyhills,ca90211 <><800-998-6060 <>http://www.artistaccess.com/mrownd/mrownd.htm <>http://on-air.com/peccary/ <<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>> - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 19 11:20:53 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24531 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:20:51 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06712 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <194>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:05:52 -0500 Received: from uicc.com ([199.201.200.231]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:04:36 -0500 Received: by firewall.uicc.com id <5991>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:56:41 -0500 Message-Id: <97Mar19.105641est.5991@firewall.uicc.com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:58:24 -0500 From: "'Ace of Grace'" Organization: Unitrode Integrated Circuits X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; U; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce J. Tovsky" CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, yates@uicc.com Subject: Re: sgroup HDIF+S550+EZ135=OK References: <199703182040_MC2-12C6-CB4C@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Bruce J. Tovsky wrote: > > On a whim I hooked up my Syquest EZ135 to my S550, went through the setup > procedures > in my HDIF manual and voila, the S550 formatted the EZ135 cart at 80mb (the > S550 limit) > and allows storage of 64 discs worth of samples! And it loads twice as fast > as a floppy, > about the same speed as the CD-ROM. Hi Bruce and sgroup, My name is Art Yates, and I also own a S-550 with the HD-5 interface with Tonegenics upgrade. Perhaps someone could help a fellow s-550 owner. I tried to use a Syquest 88Mb with it, and the drive 'locks up' every time I try to format (the interface recognizes the drive and the connection test tells me the connection is 'ok').I've gone through the error recovery (pushing the square button to spin down the drive, shutting off the drive, wait 5 sec. and turn on again), but can't seem to get past the format stage; once in a while it will get to 'initialization' stage, but then the drive locks up :( Tonegenics says that the upgrade supports a Syquest 44Mb and I couldn't see such a big difference between the 44Mb and 88MB. When I got this message regarding a Syquest EZ135 working perhaps there's something I'm missing. Tonegenics phone is disconnected, and I can't find them on the net. Any assistance would be much appreciated :) Art - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 19 14:55:41 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29899 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:54:29 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <198>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:42:40 -0500 Received: from external.telecom.ie ([159.134.141.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <183>; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:48:53 -0500 Received: (from fwtk@localhost) by external.telecom.ie (8.7.6/8.7.3) id RAA14834 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 17:45:16 GMT From: emanning@telecom.ie Received: from unknown(159.134.30.19) by external.telecom.ie via smap () id xma014797; Wed, 19 Mar 97 17:44:34 GMT Received: from ccMail by smtpgw.telecom.ie (SMTPLINK V2.11) id AA858822658; Wed, 19 Mar 97 17:41:45 gmt Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:41:45 -0500 Message-Id: <9702198588.AA858822658@smtpgw.telecom.ie> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re[2]: sgroup HDIF+S550+EZ135=OK Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Please help me on how (or if) I can connect the following simultaneously: Roland S550 with SCSI option 80Mb SCSI hard disk (already connected to S550) Iomega Zip SCSI drive PC with Adaptec SCSI card Ed Manning emanning@telecom.ie ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: sgroup HDIF+S550+EZ135=OK Author: "'Ace of Grace'" at csgnet Date: 19/03/97 17:17 Bruce J. Tovsky wrote: > > On a whim I hooked up my Syquest EZ135 to my S550, went through the setup > procedures > in my HDIF manual and voila, the S550 formatted the EZ135 cart at 80mb (the > S550 limit) > and allows storage of 64 discs worth of samples! And it loads twice as fast > as a floppy, > about the same speed as the CD-ROM. Hi Bruce and sgroup, My name is Art Yates, and I also own a S-550 with the HD-5 interface with Tonegenics upgrade. Perhaps someone could help a fellow s-550 owner. I tried to use a Syquest 88Mb with it, and the drive 'locks up' every time I try to format (the interface recognizes the drive and the connection test tells me the connection is 'ok').I've gone through the error recovery (pushing the square button to spin down the drive, shutting off the drive, wait 5 sec. and turn on again), but can't seem to get past the format stage; once in a while it will get to 'initialization' stage, but then the drive locks up :( Tonegenics says that the upgrade supports a Syquest 44Mb and I couldn't see such a big difference between the 44Mb and 88MB. When I got this message regarding a Syquest EZ135 working perhaps there's something I'm missing. Tonegenics phone is disconnected, and I can't find them on the net. Any assistance would be much appreciated :) Art - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 20 02:29:45 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA11996 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:29:43 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <183>; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:17:24 -0500 Received: from trappist.elis.rug.ac.be ([157.193.67.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:16:33 -0500 Received: from trappist.elis.rug.ac.be (cas0.elis.rug.ac.be [157.193.67.92]) by trappist.elis.rug.ac.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10055; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:16:00 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199703200716.IAA10055@trappist.elis.rug.ac.be> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Serge Audenaert" Organization: RUG-ELIS To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca, blair@netspace.net.au, anthonyb@cppl.com.au, kloppers@ufrmsa1.olivetti.za, wordbox@mbox.vol.it Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 02:16:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: solution: sgroup recycle SCSI S760 Reply-to: serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.32.19970311215016.006cd2f4@netspace.net.au> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 21:50:51 +1100 > To: serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be > From: Blair Rideout > Subject: Re: sgroup recycle SCSI S760 > >I tried to address my S760 via SCSI from PC but whatever I As Blair pointed out, I didn't get things to work in Win95. I tried 2 SCSI cards: my own Adaptec 1505, and an Adaptec 1542. I made the mistake of NOT including the ASPIDISK.SYS driver in config.sys. I didn't do that because it's not in the manual. Now, the working configuration is: PC->ZIP->S760 windows 3.1: config.sys device=aspi2dos.sys /d (aspi4dos.sys for the 1542) device=aspidisk.sys The EZSCSI install prog also installed a dll and a .386 file in the system directory. Then again, unlike what's in the manual, on startup, only the ZIP drive is recognized. Manual suggests that also the S760 should be found but could return a false name. Also in windows only the ZIP is recognized by the EZ-SCSI interrogator. Recycle however, issuing a scan for samplers on the SCSI bus finds the S760 (finds 2!) and everything works fine. Thanks for your comments! Serge. ===================================== ir. Serge Audenaert ELIS - Circuits en Systemen tel. +32 9 2643393 fax +32 9 2643594 email serge.audenaert@elis.rug.ac.be 73444.2423@compuserve.com St. Pietersnieuwstr 41 9000 Gent Belgie ===================================== - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 20 13:29:22 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA08312 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:29:20 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <184>; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:15:57 -0500 Received: from dub-img-7.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.137]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:47:24 -0500 Received: by dub-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id AAA05533; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:47:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:46:56 -0500 From: "Bruce J. Tovsky" Subject: sgroup HDIF+S550 To: sgroup Message-ID: <199703200047_MC2-12DC-EB14@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:50:09 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA02400 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <183>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:39:08 -0500 Received: from cbgw2.lucent.com ([192.20.239.134]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:38:18 -0500 Received: from aloft by cbig2.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id IAA10722; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:36:26 -0500 Received: from kryton (kryton.micro.lucent.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M11.1) id AA09260; Fri, 21 Mar 97 08:38:03 EST Received: by kryton (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S3.1) id AA22111; Fri, 21 Mar 97 08:38:02 EST Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:38:02 -0500 From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <9703211338.AA22111@kryton> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup EMUSIC Playlist Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Playlist for "EMUSIC" on WDIY-FM, Allentown 88.1 FM in Allentown/Bethleham and 93.9 FM in Easton/Phillipsburg Show #9 March 20, 1997. Host: Bill Fox This show is the third in a month-long focus on Steve Roach. Each week, one of his CDs will be featured at midnight. In addition, a preview of the upcoming Star's End Gathering in Philadelphia was presented by playing the music of Bionaut. ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================= =============================== 11:00 pm Synergy (Larry Fast) Legacy Electronic Realizations for Rock Orchestra (Third Contact) Bionaut Born to Goa Au Naturel (Tiny Bubbles) Mike Oldfield Oceania TheSongsofDistantEarth(Reprise) Team Metlay Killing Chrome Bandwidth (Atomic City) Coyote Oldman Iron Wood In Beauty I Walk (HeartsOfSpace) Satori Gathering Power Invisible Rhythm (Ancient Sun) Patrick O'Hearn Patience My Friend Metaphor (Deep Cave Records) Hemisphere All and Nothing Beyond the Darkness (Cue) Loren Nerell Irama Lilin Dewa (Side Effects) 12:00 am Steve Roach ToTheThresholdOfSilence World's Edge (Fortuna) 1:00 am Sign off On next week's program, I'll continue to preview the upcoming Star's End Gathering on March 29th and wrap up the month-long spotlight on Steve Roach. The midnight feature CD will be "Dreamtime Return" on the Fortuna label. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 21 09:36:30 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02375 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:36:29 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <184>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:25:56 -0500 Received: from uicc.com ([199.201.200.231]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:25:05 -0500 Received: by firewall.uicc.com id <6180>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:22:56 -0500 Message-Id: <97Mar21.092256est.6180@firewall.uicc.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:20:58 -0500 From: "'Ace of Grace'" Organization: Unitrode Integrated Circuits X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; U; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruce J. Tovsky" CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup HDIF+S550+Syquest88= bad combination :( References: <199703200047_MC2-12DC-EB14@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Bruce J. Tovsky wrote: > One thing > I needed to do was to use the "Restart" command in the "Disk/HD Setup" > menu. This > allowed me to format the EZ135. There is also a "SCSI Check" command which > might > help get a device 'recognized.' Evidently, the S550 likes to 'park' the > heads on > hard drives, and this causes problems with removables like Syquests and > IOmegas. I tried to issue a 'park' and 'restart' command, and some garbage appears on the top of the S-550 monitor, and the drive still locks up after formatting for about a minute or so. I do have a terminator on the drive, so my only conclusions are: 1) the Syquest 88MB just doesn't work out 2) My cable is bad and/or the terminator is bad 3) issues with the HD-5 IF and/or Tonegenics upgrade > P.S. as far as I know Tonegenics has been kaput for years. Did you try the > 415-964-2560 number? > Good luck > Bruce I called it, and it's a FAX line, Yup, Tonegenics is kaput :) Thanks for your response, Bruce. Regards, Art - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 21 09:53:23 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02695 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:53:18 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <185>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:38:45 -0500 Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net ([204.250.46.50]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:37:30 -0500 Received: from Default (max2-so-ca-24.earthlink.net [206.149.202.75]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA28558 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:35:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:35:47 -0500 From: mysymphony@earthlink.net Message-Id: <199703211435.GAA28558@sweden.it.earthlink.net> X-Sender: mysymphony@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup fs.. CD roms S700 series Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I have 2 new CDRom libraries: Rhythm Section Vol. 1 CD rom for the S-700 series. (over 1000 patches) Preview Library CD Rom (400 patches) not sure what to price to ask. if interested, email me an offer. thanks, mark <<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>> <>DesertWavesmusic8306wilshireblvd#879beverlyhills,ca90211 <><800-998-6060 <>http://www.artistaccess.com/mrownd/mrownd.htm <>http://on-air.com/peccary/ <<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>> - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 21 12:42:06 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA06736 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:42:04 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <183>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:31:17 -0500 Received: from arl-img-1.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.131]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:29:55 -0500 Received: by arl-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id MAA17620; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:29:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:33:28 -0500 From: Stefano Daino Subject: sgroup D-SoundPRO 2.5 To: Roland User Group Message-ID: <199703211229_MC2-12F2-C6D1@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, I'm Stefano Daino, the author of a shareware sound editor for macs called D-SoundPRO. If you have a mac, this program could be a good tools for your music and sampler programming. Now the last version of D-SoundPRO is available, it includes a lot of new features, among which the read/write to Roland 3" 1/5 disks in S50, S330, S550 format and full midi I/O for S50, S330 and S550. The S760 was already supported by the Midi Sample Dump. Here below I include an annex for a more complete description of D-SoundPRO functions. You will find the last version of D-SoundPRO at: http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Mac http://www.synthzone.com/dsound.htm http://www.shareware.com into Compuserve database, (MIDI Forum) or into Info-mac database I'm writing in this list not only to announce my program, but also because I need some help. Some questions: - Is the S-750 supporting the Midi Sample Dump Standard? - If not, can someone send to me the midi sysex protocol (by fax or postal mail) you can find in the appendix of its User Manual? I would like to support also this sampler. - What about the S-770? I tested the midi I/O of version 2.5 on S50 and S-330, but not on S-550. - Can someone give me a feedback using D-SoundPRO transferring sounds to/from bank C/D of a S-550 by midi? I'm going to write the code for S-10 midi and S-760 scsi support. I need a volunteer for testing... Thank you for your support to D-SoundPRO and to the shareware distribution concept. I believe that the shareware can lower the costs of the commercial and professional software by a ten factor, but it needs the help of users. Write to me (or use this user list) for informations or if you need assistance Ciao Stefano sdaino@compuserve.com <------ D-SoundPRO Abstract -------------------------------> D-SoundPRO 2.5 COPYRIGHT © 1997 - Stefano Daino All rights reserved D-SoundPRO is a professional sound editor. It is capable of managing AIFF sound files and MIDI Sample I/O, and it permits very sophisticated sound manipulations. Its features are: - Load/Save AIFF mono/stereo 8/16 bits sound files up to 48 kHz - Import/Export sounds from 3 1/2 Roland Samplers Disks (S50, S550, S330) - Import/Export sounds in RAW format - MIDI SAMPLE DUMP STANDARD and S50, S550, S330 MIDI Input/Output - Yamaha SY sample headers support - Akai SCSI sample dump support - Sophisticated and undoable sample edit & clipboard management - Floating palettes for edit tools, loops monitoring, sample info, and Virtual Keyboard. - X-Fade looping algorithm with programmable window length & X-fade coefficient - Time Stretching and Frequency Shifting parametric algorithms by a Spectral Resynthesizer - Rythm loop for fast auto looping of musical audio files - Oscillator function to generate new synthesized sound waves - Resample using interpolation - Pitch conversion - Normalization - Complex sample extraction functions - Zooms and visual tools - Full OMS 1.2 (or better) support (optionally) - First release of the Virtual Synthesizer module, to play samples from MIDI - It is a FAT application - it runs native on PowerMac - Japanese and Italian versions available - User Manual included System requirements: System 7.1, SoundManager 3.1 and a 68020 MAC supporting 16 bit audio (68030 mac recommended for MIDI). 68000 and 68k+FPU versions also available. Optional: MIDI interface and synth supporting MIDI Sample Dump Standard, a MAC with sound inputs, OMS 1.2 (or better). D-SoundPRO is a program which is distributed as SHAREWARE. This version is fully operating. You are permitted to use it on a trial basis for up to 15 days. If you wish to continue using this product beyond that period, you are expected to pay a registration fee of $30. You will receive a registration code which you may enter to eliminate registration screens. Thank you for your help to this shareware product. You can distribute D-SoundPRO 2.5 on commercial CD-ROM if you include also all files in archive. You are kindly request to send me a free copy of your CD-ROM. For the Italian, 68000 and 68k+FPU versions please write to me. ******************************************************** What is NEW in Version 2.5 (06-02-97) - The Time Stretching and Frequency Shifting parametric algorithms - S50, S550, S330 MIDI sample transfer support - Export function on S50, S550, S330 3" 1/5 disks - Akai® SCSI sample dump and sample directory support - Rythm loop for fast auto looping of musical audio files - Import/Export sounds in RAW format - Oscillator function to generate new synthesized sound waves - many bugs fixed ******************************************************** What was NEW in Version 2.4.1 (18-09-96) - FAT code, runs native on PowerMac - The virtual synthesizer is faster playing from MIDI - new Volume control to play more voices without distorsion - Better MIDI management, now works fine on slower Macs (tested on LCII) - Less Registration Dialogs for unregistered Users - Now opt+. cancels MIDI I/O - minor bugs fixed - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 21 15:25:36 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10597 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:25:30 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA15065 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <183>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:13:24 -0500 Received: from mail1.grove.ufl.EDU ([128.227.8.81]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:12:34 -0500 Received: from bay.grove.ufl.edu (hotrod@grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.9]) by mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA31693; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by bay.grove.ufl.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23002; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:12:07 -0500 (EST) Comments: on bay, Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:12:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:12:07 -0500 From: grilledcheese X-Sender: hotrod@bay To: Peter Ullrich cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup samplevision In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970306062815.584fbda0@rauris> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R i thoudht i was downloading a samplevison demo from the ftp site, but its just a slideshow. does anyone know where i can get samplevision from? i need a sound editor that will work with my 330, samplevision 2.0 looks great, thats the old version right? i should be able to get that for free now right? ...anybody have it ? that wouldn't mind mailing it to me? thanks! mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...We all realised that it doesn't really matter what you play, it'll sound good because of what you're plugged into." -sarah peacock of seefeel - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 21 21:52:41 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA16943 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:52:40 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA30503 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <183>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:43:27 -0500 Received: from smtp1.erols.com ([205.252.116.101]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:42:37 -0500 Received: from mikeb.erols.com (spg-as82s07.erols.com [207.172.54.151]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29116 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:43:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199703220243.VAA29116@smtp1.erols.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Will Moore" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:45:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup PC RAM and the 760 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hey Everyone, A friend of mine told me a few years back that putting PC RAM into my 760 would actually work. Has anyone tried this? I should note, that he used to work for a RAM wholeseller so I have some faith in his words. I'm not concerned about it not working as much as I am concerned that it'll fry my board! Anyone? Also, according to the manual, I can put in one 16meg simm (eg, both slots don't have to be filled). Is this true? Aw hell, as long as I'm asking, one more question. :) Can you save partial templates or can you only use the presets? Thanks! Will --------------- Bleep. Bleep. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 21 22:21:30 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17293 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:21:30 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <184>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:11:29 -0500 Received: from jupiter.centrin.net.id ([202.146.255.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <182>; Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:10:40 -0500 Received: from [202.146.255.161] by jupiter.centrin.net.id; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0523PM) id AA16839; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:10:48 +0700 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 22:10:48 -0500 Message-Id: <9703220310.AA16839@jupiter.centrin.net.id> X-Sender: ajuwono@centrin.net.id X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: albert juwono Subject: sgroup Need information on sample CD Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I desperately need a good orchestral string section patch (or performance, or volumes, whatever). I've been browsing the sample CD manufacturer's site like Ilio and EastWestsounds. Has anyone ever use the Strings from Synclavier library (manuf. Ilio), and Peter Siedlazek's Orchestra (from EastWest). Which one is best? Or if you know other good sources please let me know! I know about the Invision's Miroslav Vitous CD but way out of my budget. I'm thinking of buying the CDRom version. So, I also need information about the formatting, looping, and of course the sound quality! Thanks in advance. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 22 11:01:41 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA18141 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 11:01:32 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:48:39 -0500 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.45]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:47:50 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA12305; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:47:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 10:47:36 -0500 From: Windsound@aol.com Message-ID: <970322104733_806551202@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: ajuwono@mindless.com, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Need information on sample CD Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R In a message dated 3/21/97 10:26:46 PM, you wrote: >I desperately need a good orchestral string section patch (or performance, >or volumes, whatever). I've been browsing the sample CD manufacturer's site >like Ilio and EastWestsounds. Has anyone ever use the Strings from >Synclavier library (manuf. Ilio), and Peter Siedlazek's Orchestra (from >EastWest). Which one is best? Or if you know other good sources please let >me know! I know about the Invision's Miroslav Vitous CD but way out of my >budget. I'm thinking of buying the CDRom version. So, I also need >information about the formatting, looping, and of course the sound quality! >Thanks in advance. I have heard all three - Synclavier is hopeless. Miroslov Vitous is incredible, but as we know, VERY expensive. On the flip side, it does have the greatest variety, thus giving you a lot more creative freedom. I went with the Siedlazek "Orchestra" CD-ROM and I love it. Though it is limited in scope, the quality is superb. It offers strings (legato, spiccato, etc.) and then various tutti orchestral sounds (punches, glissando up/down) and various tremolo effects in maj, min, & dim voicings. There are no solo patches. A word of warning, at 44.1, it uses all 32 meg of RAM (and then some). Conveniently, they have supplied the same sounds at 44.1, 32, and 32mono to make it easier to fit all the sounds in with limited RAM. One of the things I like best is the spiccato string attacks. With this patch, I have been able to create fast runs that sound quite natural; no other string patches have had a quick enough attack to pull that off. Secondly, they didn't skimp on the legato strings - VERY rich with great loop seams. Note, however, that the samples include natural reverb. This can be good or bothersome, depending on your needs on a specific piece of music. Also, I highly recommend getting the CD-ROM. You'll save yourself a lot of time and frustration. I got the Akai format so I could use it on other samplers as well. The convert load is laboriously long, but if you then save in Roland format (on optical or external hard drive), you're set. When doing so, be sure to use the re-name partials feature to save time; when convert loaded from Akai, partials (and samples) all have the same name and can't be saved in Roland's format until all names are different. This is also true for the sample names. Anyone know of a way to rename the samples automatically??? Good Luck! Todd Windsound, Inc. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 22 17:52:29 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14258 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:52:28 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29368 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <162>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:38:38 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper2.telekom.de ([194.25.15.8]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:37:49 -0500 Received: from mailgate1.telekom.de by gatekeeper2.telekom.de; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/02Aug95-0132PM) id AA00504; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:37:25 +0100 Received: from Q9E20.dmst01.telekom.de by mailgate1.telekom.de; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/02Aug95-1122AM) id AA31948; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:37:24 +0100 Message-Id: <9703222237.AA31948@mailgate1.telekom.de> Received: from son.ez-darmstadt.telekom.de by ts1.ez-darmstadt.telekom.de with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA208920243; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:37:23 +0100 Received: by son.ez-darmstadt.telekom.de (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA287240292; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:38:12 +0100 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 17:38:12 -0500 From: Stefan Pfeifer To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup: Re: PC RAM and S-760 works ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=X-roman8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi Will, I recently popped a standard PS/2 16MB SIMM into my S-760 (single slot only!), and it worked as expected. If the module has no parity and fits physically, I can hardly imagine that any damage to your sampler will happen. Of course, you'd have to take care about the usual precautions for electrostatic sensitive devices ! About the partial templates: Why not save empty template partials e.g. onto floppy disks and copy them multiple times internally once they are loaded ? This will give you easy-to-handle, unlimited amounts of templates. Stefan. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 22 22:33:44 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00319 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:33:43 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10560 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <166>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:22:52 -0500 Received: from smtp3.erols.com ([205.252.116.103]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:22:03 -0500 Received: from mikeb.erols.com (spg-as77s82.erols.com [207.172.38.82]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA24871 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 1997 21:12:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199703230212.VAA24871@smtp3.erols.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Will Moore" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 16:15:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup Partial Templates Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Picture this: I pick up the S-760 manual for reading material in my favorite reading spot (you'll have to figure that out on your own). I randomly open it up to the page explaining how to save partial templates. Duh. So, I'd like to thank everyone for not sending me a RTFM flame. All of your mothers would be proud of your restraint. I'd also like to thank everyone who answered my RAM question. Will --------------- Bleep. Bleep. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 23 11:20:27 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16091 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:20:26 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:00:06 -0500 Received: from camel6.mindspring.com ([204.180.128.212]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:59:16 -0500 Received: from [38.26.20.7] (mule1.mindspring.com [204.180.128.167]) by camel6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA13053 for ; Sun, 23 Mar 1997 10:59:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703231559.KAA13053@camel6.mindspring.com> Subject: Re: sgroup fs.. CD roms S700 series Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 11:04:06 -0500 x-sender: sampleheads@pop.mindspring.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jeremy Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >I have 2 new CDRom libraries: >Rhythm Section Vol. 1 CD rom for the S-700 series. (over 1000 patches) >Preview Library CD Rom (400 patches) >not sure what to price to ask. How about free? They come free with every new 760. JR - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 25 05:22:01 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA13942 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 05:21:59 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 05:10:24 -0500 Received: from jupiter.centrin.net.id ([202.146.255.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 05:09:17 -0500 Received: from [202.146.255.150] by jupiter.centrin.net.id; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0523PM) id AB30566; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 17:09:18 +0700 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 05:09:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9703251009.AB30566@jupiter.centrin.net.id> X-Sender: ajuwono@centrin.net.id (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: albert juwono Subject: sgroup Difference between s750 and s760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Just curious! Why would anyone sell their 750 to get a 760? If I remember correctly the 750 cost a fortune, almost twice as the 760. I never use a 750. When it came out, I can only afford an Akai S01. What is the difference between the two unit? How's the sound quality. I know that the s770 uses 20bit D/A converter, and s760 uses 18 bit D/A converter. Do this affect the sound quality? Which one is better in general? While we were at it, what's the difference between the s770 and s750. Thanks in advance! At 10:12 19/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >Well, I finally got a 760, and will be selling one of my two 750's to help >pay for it. But I will then be hooking up a 750 and 760 in the same scsi chain. >Has anyone else done that? Any suggestions? My 750 starts up from a formated >730 mg Quantum external in the scsi chain with system 2.24. Roland told me >that the 760 would read my performance files from the harddrive, but would >have to start up with system 2.25... so it sounds like I will need to start >up the 760 from a floppy first, then turn on the harddrive, and then startup >the 750 from that... >does this make any sense? >thanks, >mark > > - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 25 09:39:45 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA21864 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:39:39 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:28:03 -0500 Received: from vangogh.caleida.pt ([194.79.90.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 09:27:08 -0500 Received: from dali.caleida.pt (dali.caleida.pt [194.79.90.36]) by vangogh.caleida.pt (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA14323; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:26:29 GMT Message-ID: <3337D409.3166@caleida.pt> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 08:32:57 -0500 From: Rui Tinoco Reply-To: rtinoco@caleida.pt X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Moore CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup PC RAM and the 760 References: <199703220243.VAA29116@smtp1.erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Will Moore wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > A friend of mine told me a few years back that putting PC RAM into my > 760 would actually work. Has anyone tried this? I am working with PC RAM and no problems (until now). Everything seems to be Ok. I haven`t got the OP 760 board but everything else is OK... > Also, according to the > manual, I can put in one 16meg simm (eg, both slots don't have to be > filled). Is this true? Yes you can. I have know 32 Mg but I used to work with 16Mg in only one slot. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 25 11:08:17 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24078 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 11:08:15 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:55:31 -0500 Received: from armenia.it.earthlink.net ([204.250.46.106]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:54:39 -0500 Received: from Default (max2-so-ca-08.earthlink.net [206.149.202.59]) by armenia.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA23126; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:54:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:54:16 -0500 From: mysymphony@earthlink.net Message-Id: <199703251554.HAA23126@armenia.it.earthlink.net> X-Sender: mysymphony@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: albert juwono Subject: Re: sgroup Difference between s750 and s760 Cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R the main difference for me I suppose is that you can go to 32mg with a 760. Only to 18 mg with a 750, and 16 mg with a 770. The 760 comes with 2 pair of stereo outs, and digital outs. The 750 has 1 pair stereo outs (and 6 mono outs). Fits in one rack space instead of 3. I'm sure there are many more differences others can tell you about but I'm still learning.. I had heard the 750 had better D/A converters than the 760... wonder why Roland did that? mark At 05:09 AM 03/25/1997 -0500, you wrote: >Just curious! Why would anyone sell their 750 to get a 760? If I remember >correctly the 750 cost a fortune, almost twice as the 760. I never use a >750. When it came out, I can only afford an Akai S01. What is the difference >between the two unit? How's the sound quality. I know that the s770 uses >20bit D/A converter, and s760 uses 18 bit D/A converter. Do this affect the >sound quality? Which one is better in general? While we were at it, what's >the difference between the s770 and s750. Thanks in advance! > >At 10:12 19/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Well, I finally got a 760, and will be selling one of my two 750's to help >>pay for it. But I will then be hooking up a 750 and 760 in the same scsi >chain. >>Has anyone else done that? Any suggestions? My 750 starts up from a formated >>730 mg Quantum external in the scsi chain with system 2.24. Roland told me >>that the 760 would read my performance files from the harddrive, but would >>have to start up with system 2.25... so it sounds like I will need to start >>up the 760 from a floppy first, then turn on the harddrive, and then startup >>the 750 from that... >>does this make any sense? >>thanks, >>mark >> >> > > >- >Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca >For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca > > <<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>> <>DesertWavesmusic8306wilshireblvd#879beverlyhills,ca90211 <><800-998-6060 <>http://www.artistaccess.com/mrownd/mrownd.htm <>http://on-air.com/peccary/ <<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>> - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 25 18:38:20 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA05188 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:38:18 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <162>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:27:21 -0500 Received: from alpha.alphalink.com.au ([203.24.205.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:26:31 -0500 Received: from untold.alphalink.com.au (ppp31-1-3.alphalink.com.au [203.62.180.158]) by alpha.alphalink.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA25778 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:26:20 +1000 Message-ID: <333986D3.3D64@alphalink.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:28:03 -0500 From: Vladimir Tittl Reply-To: untold@alphalink.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup Digital connection References: <9703251009.AB30566@jupiter.centrin.net.id> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi all, this is a bit off topic, but if someone can answer me that would be great. Does anyone know if the digital (coaxial) signal out of a DAT machine is or isn't compatible with the digital signal of a computers SPIFF (Sony Philips etc whatever it stands for?)? If it is can I get a special cable made up to connect the two? If not, is there some other way to get a digital signal of a DAT player into my pc? I was thinking theat, why can't I use the DAT's d/a a/d converters? The cheapest possible I mean..... Regards, ...Vladimir -- Email: untold@alphalink.com.au Vladimir Tittl http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold The Head Master Voice ++61 3 9523 7235 Melbourne Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 Australia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Tue Mar 25 19:03:54 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05567 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:03:53 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA32034 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:03:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <166>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:53:53 -0500 Received: from hil-img-3.compuserve.com ([149.174.177.133]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:53:04 -0500 Received: by hil-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id SAA02180; Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:52:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:52:17 -0500 From: "Bruce J. Tovsky" Subject: sgroup S550+HDIF+EZ135 To: sgroup Message-ID: <199703251852_MC2-1347-AA2@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R To all those interested, A little addendum to my previous note about using the Syquest EZ135 removable with my S550 outfitted with the Roland HDIF board. BTW, this is NOT the Tonegenics board and I don't know what, if any, differences there are between the two. After my first happy experiences with formatting and storing stuff to the EZ, I had some trouble. The next time I booted up the S550 with the EZ on, I couldn't get the S550 to 'see' the EZ. "HD connection errer (sic)" was all I got. Nothing seemed to work, "SCSI Check," "Restart," nothing. Just to test I tried reformatting and voila, there it was again, 80 megs of space. Hmmmmm. I did a "SCSI Check" and lost it again. Hmmmmmmm. Then I tried something bold and daring :-) In the 'Disk' 'Setup' menu there is a screen which displays the installed SCSI devices and their ID #, in my case my CD-ROM is '0' and my HD (EZ135) is '4'. One can change the ID number by cursoring to the ID # and using the left or right mouse keys to increment/decrement the number. Setting the number off by one and then back immediately restored the EZ135 and I was able to store and load disks without any problems! I did several tests, powering down and back up and it's worked fine every time. This may also solve some other problems with other SCSI devices like Zips and other Syquests. Let me know if this works with anyone else. Oh, BTW, I am using the CD-5 system on my S550, which is readily available on Compuserve and at Roland sites, and may also be available at the sgroup archive. If you're not using this system you can't use the information above, so get it and use it! Cheers Bruce - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 02:59:08 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA12039 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:59:06 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:49:38 -0500 Received: from ameeba.inet.fi ([192.89.123.192]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:48:49 -0500 Received: from [193.208.255.186] ([193.208.255.186]) by smtp.inet.fi with SMTP id <6354-7433>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:45:10 +0200 X-Sender: eskora-1@pop.inet.fi Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:49:20 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi (Illusion Rake) Subject: Re: sgroup Digital connection Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >Does anyone know if the digital (coaxial) signal out of a DAT machine >is or isn't compatible with the digital signal of a computers SPIFF I live in a Mac world, so I really dunno...but are you sure that it is not S/PDIF? The coaxial out/in in DAT machines is S/PDIF. Rauli <>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<> I l l u s i o n R a k e producer/artist A n n B e l l F e l l on EMI/Flex ProVoice Productions Oy tel. +358-(9)17-6537 091 fax. +358-(9)17-6166 031 Lukiokatu 36, HAMEENLINNA, Finland email: rauli.eskolin@provoice.inet.fi <>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<>-<> - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 03:49:32 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA12916 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 03:49:31 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 03:40:23 -0500 Received: from hauki.clinet.fi ([194.100.0.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 03:39:30 -0500 Received: from cantina.clinet.fi (root@cantina.clinet.fi [194.100.0.15]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.8.5/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA23382 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:39:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (captain@localhost) by cantina.clinet.fi (8.8.5/8.6.4) with SMTP id KAA20423 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:39:11 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: cantina.clinet.fi: captain owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 03:39:11 -0500 From: Markus Kaarlonen Reply-To: Markus Kaarlonen To: sgroup Subject: sgroup Digital connection In-Reply-To: <333986D3.3D64@alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R > Does anyone know if the digital (coaxial) signal out of a DAT machine > is or isn't compatible with the digital signal of a computers SPIFF > (Sony Philips etc whatever it stands for?)? > If it is can I get a special cable made up to connect the two? The standard you are referring to is called S/PDIF (spelled "spiff diff" or something like that), which stands for Sony/Philips Digital Interface. Most (if not all?) cd-players, dat machines and other digital devices use S/PDIF for digital transfers. So if your PC understands S/PDIF, you can just connect your DAT to your PC and everything should work just fine. You don't need any special cables, any cable that has the right kind of connectors is OK. Most devices use RCA's for digital connections, but some portable DATs and PC cards use (dreaded!!) miniplugs... Markus "Captain" Kaarlonen "A film is - or should be - more like music M2 Productions than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods m2.asdf.org and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the captain@clinet.fi meaning, all that comes later." -- Stanley Kubrick - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 12:16:38 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA27371 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:16:37 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:02:24 -0500 Received: from vassun1.macau.ctm.net ([202.175.3.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:51:13 -0500 Received: from jmexit.macau.ctm.net (c28line8.macau.ctm.net [202.175.4.175]) by vassun1.macau.ctm.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA05827 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:50:14 +0800 Message-ID: <3339289F.5450@macau.ctm.net> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:46:07 -0500 From: J-M Mariojouls X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S750 to CD ? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Need help , I just bought a CD recorder , mainly because I want to backup my S750 sounds . My idea was to sort the sounds on a Jaz disk and then record all on CD . First , when I copy the volumes to the Jaz , the process progressively slow down (I think that's not normal) and before half of the Jaz disk was full (less than 500MB) it stop copying saying something like : "error,directory full" . Then I decide to record anyway what was on the Jaz , but I couldn't , not even make an image file of it from my computer . I'm using a Pentium PC and WinOnCD software to control the CD-R . Anyone can help me ? Jean-Michel - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 15:42:49 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02950 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:42:48 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <162>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:30:18 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper1.telekom.de ([194.25.15.6]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:29:28 -0500 Received: from mailgate2.telekom.de by gatekeeper1.telekom.de; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/02Aug95-0132PM) id AA23893; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:29:07 +0100 Received: from Q9E20.dmst01.telekom.de by mailgate2.telekom.de; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/02Aug95-1122AM) id AA09789; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:29:06 +0100 Message-Id: <9703262029.AA09789@mailgate2.telekom.de> Received: from son.ez-darmstadt.telekom.de by ts1.ez-darmstadt.telekom.de with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA220768140; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:29:01 +0100 Received: by son.ez-darmstadt.telekom.de (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA036838142; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:29:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:29:02 -0500 From: Stefan Pfeifer To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup: Re: S-750 to CD-R Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=X-roman8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi Jean-Michel ! > ... lf of the Jaz disk > was full (less than 500MB) it stop copying saying something like : > "error,directory full" ... Unfortunately, this is very normal behaviour. I have an S-760, but I'm quite sure your S-750 has the same limit of 512MB as a maximum partition size. Have a look in your manual, and you'll find some info about SCSI devices. > ... not even make an image file of it from my computer. I also work with WinOnCD. Are you sure you used 'RAW mode' when transferring the JAZ's data to your hard disk ? Don't try to access the JAZ as a logical drive, you'll have to select your SCSI controller and the JAZ SCSI device attached to it. Then copy the raw data. If you can't access the JAZ anyway, make sure your SCSI chain is terminated correctly on both ends and you don't use duplicate SCSI ID's - Including the controller's ID's. Please tell me if you succeeded. Stefan Pfeiffer, pfeifer@ez-darmstadt.telekom.de - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 16:02:06 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03465 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:02:00 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA08134 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <170>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:46:43 -0500 Received: from mail1.grove.ufl.EDU ([128.227.8.81]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:32 -0500 Received: from banyan.grove.ufl.edu (hotrod@grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.15]) by mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA31893; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by banyan.grove.ufl.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA30649; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:09 -0500 (EST) Comments: PAA30649 on banyan (hop 0), Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:09 -0500 From: grilledcheese X-Sender: hotrod@banyan To: Vladimir Tittl cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Digital In-Reply-To: <333986D3.3D64@alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R this sin't really about samplers, but im in the market for a DAT deck. does anybody have any recomendations? m,ike - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 18:43:38 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07418 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:43:32 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <171>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:33:39 -0500 Received: from alpha.alphalink.com.au ([203.24.205.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:32:34 -0500 Received: from untold.alphalink.com.au (ppp32-1-3.alphalink.com.au [203.62.180.159]) by alpha.alphalink.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA18174; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:31:36 +1000 Message-ID: <333AD99B.220B@alphalink.com.au> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 15:33:31 -0500 From: Vladimir Tittl Reply-To: untold@alphalink.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: grilledcheese CC: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Digital References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R grilledcheese wrote: > > this sin't really about samplers, but im in the market for a DAT deck. > does anybody have any recomendations? well, don't get anything cheap or by sony, they will all break down. try to stick with professional gear, especially for portables. peace, ...Vladimir -- Email: untold@alphalink.com.au Vladimir Tittl http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold The Head Master Voice ++61 3 9523 7235 Melbourne Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 Australia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 20:17:54 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08742 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:17:52 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA29624 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <180>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:04:06 -0500 Received: from picard.netro.com.au ([203.13.33.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:03:16 -0500 Received: from mail.cppl.com.au ([203.17.247.1]) by picard.netro.com.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02959 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:03:01 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199703270202-60386@cppl.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:02:34 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail with Intergate/SMTP (v1.Free) From: anthonyb@cppl.com.au (Anthony Bennett) To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S-760 quirk with sample dump Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi All, I have finally worked around a problem that has had me stumped for a while now and am wondering if nyone else has seen this quirk and possibly knows a way of fixing it. I use Sound Forge 4.0 to do my sample editing before doing a MIDI Sample Dump down to the S-760. The problem I was having was that I could see the sample in the S-760, edit the sample and set up the Partial, Patch, and Performance, but I could not hear it! I've just found that the default Start & End Loop points for samples "created" this way (ie, MIDI Sample Dump instead of sampled directly into S-760) are set to 10 and 14 respectively. Thus, when I was triggering the sample it was playing the couple of bits which weren't audible. End Result - when I do a MIDI Sample Dump I have to remember to go into the Sample Looping section and set the loop end point to the actual end of the sample. Has anyone else encountered this? Is there anyway I can make the default loop end point the end of the sample? Best Regards, Anthony Bennett - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 21:03:09 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09494 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:03:08 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <182>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:48:26 -0500 Received: from www.agents-online.com ([207.87.0.33]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:47:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (sharvey@localhost) by www.agents-online.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08759; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:45:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 20:45:57 -0500 From: sharvey To: Anthony Bennett cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 quirk with sample dump In-Reply-To: <199703270202-60386@cppl.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I have the same thing moving samples from Sound Forge 3.0 to my 760; the loop points are both set to 0, and I have to go and set the end point to the actual end of the sample (easy enough, but an extra step to remember...) -Steve - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 22:17:43 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10662 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:17:42 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01241 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <183>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:06:17 -0500 Received: from uwimona.edu.jm ([196.3.0.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:05:23 -0500 Received: from [10.0.2.15] (minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm) by uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00380; Wed, 26 Mar 97 22:05:00-050 X-Sender: patterso@minotaur.uwimona.edu.jm Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:06:00 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Richard Sven Patterson Subject: sgroup power user 4x cd-rom drives and the s-760 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, has anyone had any luck/knowledge good or bad about the POWER USER 4X CD-ROM drives and the S-760? thanks in advance, richard sven richard sven patterson patterso@uwimona.edu.jm 809-924-2898 "to fight for truth, justice 809-925-1247 (fax) and the analytical way" hounDog music - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 27 00:53:25 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA12884 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:53:23 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <184>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:39:36 -0500 Received: from cyprus.it.earthlink.net ([204.119.177.65]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:38:29 -0500 Received: from Default (max8-so-ca-06.earthlink.net [206.250.111.157]) by cyprus.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA03976 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 21:38:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 00:38:20 -0500 From: mysymphony@earthlink.net Message-Id: <199703270538.VAA03976@cyprus.it.earthlink.net> X-Sender: mysymphony@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup 760/750 sound quality Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R well, I'm beginning a big recording project next week... I have 2 750's and a 760. The studio also has a 760.. Most of my performance files would work with 2 750s.. so here is my question... Any advice about recording to ADAT? Is it always best to go digital out? Is there any tonal advantage to analog out? If so, should I use the 20 bit D/A outs of the 750s? My guess is that it is probably the obvious thing to go digital out... especially to ADAT... any analog fans out there with other advice? don't know enough about this yet... thanks in advance mark <<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>> <>DesertWavesmusic8306wilshireblvd#879beverlyhills,ca90211 <><800-998-6060 <>http://www.artistaccess.com/mrownd/mrownd.htm <>http://on-air.com/peccary/ <<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>>-<<<>><<>>> - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Wed Mar 26 16:02:06 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03465 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:02:00 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA08134 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <170>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:46:43 -0500 Received: from mail1.grove.ufl.EDU ([128.227.8.81]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:32 -0500 Received: from banyan.grove.ufl.edu (hotrod@grove.ufl.edu [128.227.8.15]) by mail1.grove.ufl.EDU (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA31893; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hotrod@localhost) by banyan.grove.ufl.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA30649; Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:09 -0500 (EST) Comments: PAA30649 on banyan (hop 0), Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 15:45:09 -0500 From: grilledcheese X-Sender: hotrod@banyan To: Vladimir Tittl cc: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup Digital In-Reply-To: <333986D3.3D64@alphalink.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO this sin't really about samplers, but im in the market for a DAT deck. does anybody have any recomendations? m,ike - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 27 07:03:38 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23290 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 07:03:37 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA15647 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 07:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <185>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 06:46:48 -0500 Received: from tron.marelli.it ([139.128.18.2]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 06:45:57 -0500 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by tron.marelli.it (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA01089 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:53:36 +0100 (MET) From: caccavo@pavia.marelli.it Received: from nilo.pavia.marelli.it(139.128.32.14) by tron via smap (V1.3) id sma001082; Thu Mar 27 11:53:07 1997 Received: from mitile.pavia.marelli.it by nilo.pavia.marelli.it with SMTP id AA16308 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:59:10 +0200 To: jmexit@macau.ctm.net, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: RE: sgroup S750 to CD ? Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 05:57:24 -0500 Message-Id: <9703271057.18340C@mitile.pavia.marelli.it> X-Mailer: SelectMAIL 1.2 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi Jean-Michel and all, 1) "Directory Full" message at 500MB I had the same problem writing to an hard disk with my S760: it is not a problem of the room on the disk (the S760 can handle up to 600 MB, and you had the problem at about 500MB), but it means that you were over the maximum number of files (i.e. samples/patches/performance) the operative system can handle. 2) Writing to hard disk slows down as the hard disk fills It's normal, because for each new group of files you write to the HD, the operative system checks for other entries with the same name (sample/patches/performance/volumes) 3) Burning a CD with the image of a 760/750 hard disk (WINONCD) I am using WinOnCD (rel 3.0) with a Pentium and a Teac CD-R recorder. Unfortunately, WinOnCD is a quite nice software but there is non way to make it recognize an hard disk formatted from the sampler (as far as I know). You can make a copy of a CD (also in S700 format) using the CD copy option, but YOU CANNOT MAKE A PHYSICAL COPY OF A GENERIC (unrecognized) SCSI DEVICE to a CD-R. Try with another software, for instance "EasyCD Pro" (attention: just the older version can do the job! the older version is the 3.0 or 3.1, if I remember, - it is the one made just for win 3.1, but it works well also with WIN95). With this software you have the possibility of copying from a generic SCSI device to a CD; you have to specify the number of blocks you want to write, and it makes the copy, also if it couldn't read the source device). Perhaps, at the first time you will go wrong with some CD-Rs (it happened to me), finding the right number of blocks to specify, etc., but at the end you will find the way! Remember: if you would like to read the name of your newly recorded CD when you open the list of SCSI device from the sampler, before burning the CD, give a label to the Hard Disk from the disk menu of the sampler. Good luck! Nat --- Begin Included Message --- From: J-M Mariojouls X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup S750 to CD ? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Content-Length: 779 Status: Need help , I just bought a CD recorder , mainly because I want to backup my S750 sounds . My idea was to sort the sounds on a Jaz disk and then record all on CD . First , when I copy the volumes to the Jaz , the process progressively slow down (I think that's not normal) and before half of the Jaz disk was full (less than 500MB) it stop copying saying something like : "error,directory full" . Then I decide to record anyway what was on the Jaz , but I couldn't , not even make an image file of it from my computer . I'm using a Pentium PC and WinOnCD software to control the CD-R . Anyone can help me ? Jean-Michel - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca --- End Included Message --- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 27 10:50:53 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA28386 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:50:52 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <187>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:37:44 -0500 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.40]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:36:54 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA07986; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:36:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:36:45 -0500 From: Windsound@aol.com Message-ID: <970327103644_-2106222001@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: anthonyb@cppl.com.au, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup S-760 quirk with sample dump Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Just a note that relates to your problem/solution. I've found that after setting loop points in the S-760, if you then edit the sample in any way (change the bit rate, sample freq., etc.) the start & start loop points become identical to the end point, resulting in no sound until you go back and re-edit the start/loop points. In a message dated 3/26/97 7:30:16 PM, anthonyb@cppl.com.au (Anthony Bennett) wrote: > >I have finally worked around a problem that has had me stumped for a >while now and am wondering if nyone else has seen this quirk and possibly >knows a way of fixing it. > >I use Sound Forge 4.0 to do my sample editing before doing a MIDI Sample >Dump down to the S-760. The problem I was having was that I could see the >sample in the S-760, edit the sample and set up the Partial, Patch, and >Performance, but I could not hear it! I've just found that the default >Start & End Loop points for samples "created" this way (ie, MIDI Sample >Dump instead of sampled directly into S-760) are set to 10 and 14 >respectively. Thus, when I was triggering the sample it was playing the >couple of bits which weren't audible. > >End Result - when I do a MIDI Sample Dump I have to remember to go into >the Sample Looping section and set the loop end point to the actual end >of the sample. > >Has anyone else encountered this? Is there anyway I can make the default >loop end point the end of the sample? > >Best Regards, >Anthony Bennett - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 27 11:09:54 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29044 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:09:48 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <191>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:53:08 -0500 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.39]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:50:41 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA25665; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:44:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:44:30 -0500 From: Windsound@aol.com Message-ID: <970327104428_1682804823@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: mysymphony@earthlink.net, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup 760/750 sound quality Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R If you're going to have access to a clean analogue signal path (decent console, etc.), I'd suggest going analogue to the ADAT - you can fine tune EQ, compression etc. more easily from the console when going to tape. If you're not concerned about processing before tracking, feel free to go digital. If you can, use dedicated cables designed to carry digital audio. There IS a difference. Too bad you can't we optical! In a message dated 3/27/97 12:07:16 AM, you wrote: >well, I'm beginning a big recording project next week... >I have 2 750's and a 760. The studio also has a 760.. >Most of my performance files would work with 2 750s.. >so here is my question... >Any advice about recording to ADAT? >Is it always best to go digital out? Is there any tonal advantage to analog out? >If so, should I use the 20 bit D/A outs of the 750s? >My guess is that it is probably the obvious thing to go digital out... >especially to ADAT... any analog fans out there with other advice? >don't know enough about this yet... >thanks in advance >mark - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 27 11:25:56 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29469 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:25:55 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:09:57 -0500 Received: from iris1.ariel.net ([206.171.224.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <189>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:51:20 -0500 Received: from eeyore (host1.wish.ariel.net [206.171.227.2]) by iris1.ariel.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-13576) with SMTP id AAA6071 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 07:54:43 -0800 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jim Martin" Organization: Wish You Were There... To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 02:50:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: sgroup S550 HD Interface Reply-to: jim@ariel.net Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Message-ID: <19970327155443.AAA6071@host1.wish.ariel.net> Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone know where I can get a hard drive interface for an S550? Thanks, Jim ---------------------------------- Jim Martin Wish You Were There... www.wishco.com jim@ariel.net ---------------------------------- - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 27 11:27:29 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29048 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:09:49 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06926 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <191>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:53:08 -0500 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com ([198.81.11.39]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:50:41 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id KAA25665; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:44:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 10:44:30 -0500 From: Windsound@aol.com Message-ID: <970327104428_1682804823@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: mysymphony@earthlink.net, sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: Re: sgroup 760/750 sound quality Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R If you're going to have access to a clean analogue signal path (decent console, etc.), I'd suggest going analogue to the ADAT - you can fine tune EQ, compression etc. more easily from the console when going to tape. If you're not concerned about processing before tracking, feel free to go digital. If you can, use dedicated cables designed to carry digital audio. There IS a difference. Too bad you can't we optical! In a message dated 3/27/97 12:07:16 AM, you wrote: >well, I'm beginning a big recording project next week... >I have 2 750's and a 760. The studio also has a 760.. >Most of my performance files would work with 2 750s.. >so here is my question... >Any advice about recording to ADAT? >Is it always best to go digital out? Is there any tonal advantage to analog out? >If so, should I use the 20 bit D/A outs of the 750s? >My guess is that it is probably the obvious thing to go digital out... >especially to ADAT... any analog fans out there with other advice? >don't know enough about this yet... >thanks in advance >mark - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Thu Mar 27 17:15:12 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA09027 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:15:11 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:00:52 -0500 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu ([128.32.155.12]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 16:59:48 -0500 Received: from [136.152.26.34] (clkhomeip.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.26.34]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA07646 for ; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:59:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3339289F.5450@macau.ctm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 3.0 for Macintosh Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:01:08 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Chris Kirkham Subject: Re: sgroup S750 to CD ? Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: RO I had the same directory problem and realized that no storage medium can hold more than 128 volumes, 512 performances, 1024 patches, 4096 partials, and 8192 samples, thats why your directory is full, you exceeded one of these limits. As to the slowing down of copying, that is normal, it takes longer for the sampler to find empty space on the medium or something. About your other question, I dont know anything about PC stuff, I like Macs. >Need help , >I just bought a CD recorder , mainly because I want to backup my S750 >sounds . >My idea was to sort the sounds on a Jaz disk and then record all on CD . > >First , when I copy the volumes to the Jaz , the process progressively >slow down (I think that's not normal) and before half of the Jaz disk >was full (less than 500MB) it stop copying saying something like : >"error,directory full" . >Then I decide to record anyway what was on the Jaz , but I couldn't , >not even make an image file of it from my computer . I'm using a Pentium >PC and WinOnCD software to control the CD-R . > >Anyone can help me ? > >Jean-Michel > *********************** Chris Kirkham ckirkham@uclink4.berkeley.edu (510)665-1986 - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Fri Mar 28 15:12:16 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA01982 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:12:15 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:01:26 -0500 Received: from ihgw1.lucent.com ([207.19.48.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:59:56 -0500 Received: from aloft by ihig1.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id OAA21630; Fri, 28 Mar 1997 14:10:23 -0600 Received: from kryton (kryton.micro.lucent.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M11.1) id AA16880; Fri, 28 Mar 97 15:00:03 EST Received: by kryton (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S3.1) id AA09315; Fri, 28 Mar 97 15:00:01 EST Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 15:00:01 -0500 From: wbf@aloft.micro.lucent.com (William_B_Fox) Message-Id: <9703282000.AA09315@kryton> To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Subject: sgroup EMUSIC Playlist Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Playlist for "EMUSIC" on WDIY-FM, Allentown 88.1 FM in Allentown/Bethleham and 93.9 FM in Easton/Phillipsburg Show #10 March 27, 1997. Host: Bill Fox This show concluded a month-long focus on Steve Roach. Each week, one of his CDs was featured at midnight. In addition, a preview of the upcoming Star's End Gathering in Philadelphia was presented by playing the music of Bionaut. ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================= =============================== 11:00 pm Bionaut Big Causeway to Gone Unreleased Tape Bionaut Asleep at the Knob Au Naturel (Tiny Bubbles) Bionaut ThirdSecretaryFromTheSunUnreleased Tape Bionaut BarnModulatedTranceDanceAu Naturel (Tiny Bubbles) Bionaut Long Buss Unreleased Tape Bionaut Narcolepsy Au Naturel (Tiny Bubbles) Bionaut Bowling Alley Sheik... Unreleased Tape 12:00 am Steve Roach Towards the Dream Dreamtime Return (Fortuna) Steve Roach The Continent Dreamtime Return (Fortuna) Steve Roach Songline Dreamtime Return (Fortuna) Steve Roach AirtribeMeetsDreamGhost Dreamtime Return (Fortuna) Steve Roach A Circular Ceremony Dreamtime Return (Fortuna) Steve Roach The Other Side Dreamtime Return (Fortuna) Steve Roach Magnificent Gallery Dreamtime Return (Fortuna) Steve Roach Truth in Passing Dreamtime Return (Fortuna) 1:00 am Sign off The next EMUSIC will be on April 24th due to conflicting activities. When EMUSIC returns, I'll get an early start on May's focus on Robert Rich. The feature CD at midnight will be his Hearts of Space release, "Propogation." - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 29 18:47:18 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA04525 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:47:16 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:32:05 -0500 Received: from alpha.alphalink.com.au ([203.24.205.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <156>; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:30:49 -0500 Received: from untold.alphalink.com.au (ppp39-1-3.alphalink.com.au [203.62.180.166]) by alpha.alphalink.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA19073 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:30:38 +1000 Message-ID: <333D87B4.3003@alphalink.com.au> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:20:52 -0500 From: Vladimir Tittl Reply-To: untold@alphalink.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: sgroup S-550 v. Sequential Prophet 3000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi all, I'm still happy with the sound of my s-550, but I was wondering if anyone knows how it compares with a Sequential Prophet 3000? The operatng system is supposed to be a lot easier? I know both the s-550 and the Prophet 2002 are 12 bit and the 3000 is 16 bit, but that's all I know. I apologise if this is a bit of topic. But I find all japanese samplers to be so user unfriendly, that I'd like to know something about american ones. Anyone know of a Sequential newsgroup? Anyone know what a Prophet 3000 goes for? Anyone know where I can get one? Peace, ...Vladimir -- Email: untold@alphalink.com.au Vladimir Tittl http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold The Head Master Voice ++61 3 9523 7235 Melbourne Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 Australia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 29 19:09:45 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05413 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:09:44 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA06764 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:47:08 -0500 Received: from alpha.alphalink.com.au ([203.24.205.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 18:31:10 -0500 Received: from untold.alphalink.com.au (ppp39-1-3.alphalink.com.au [203.62.180.166]) by alpha.alphalink.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA19069 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:30:33 +1000 Message-ID: <333D85DE.2F66@alphalink.com.au> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 16:13:02 -0500 From: Vladimir Tittl Reply-To: untold@alphalink.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: sgroup Re: Digital Connection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Thanks for all the relpies. The next question is: My pc has an ordinary 16bit soundcard. I don't wish to use either of the two analogue stereo miniplugs. Can I use the joystick port for a digital input (and out) ? Peace, Vladimir -- Email: untold@alphalink.com.au Vladimir Tittl http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold The Head Master Voice ++61 3 9523 7235 Melbourne Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 Australia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sat Mar 29 19:51:42 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07347 for ; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:51:41 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:42:36 -0500 Received: from alpha.alphalink.com.au ([203.24.205.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Sat, 29 Mar 1997 19:41:45 -0500 Received: from untold.alphalink.com.au (ppp39-1-3.alphalink.com.au [203.62.180.166]) by alpha.alphalink.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA23331 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 11:41:35 +1000 Message-ID: <333EDE82.1515@alphalink.com.au> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 16:43:30 -0500 From: Vladimir Tittl Reply-To: untold@alphalink.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sgroup Subject: sgroup Re: Digital Connection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Hi, > My pc has an ordinary 16bit soundcard. I don't wish to use either of > the two analogue stereo miniplugs. > Can I use the joystick port for a digital input (and out) ? I've already worked out that I can't use it. Can anyone in the US, tell me what the cheapest digital pc card are, how much they cost and where I can get one? Peace, Vladimir -- Email: untold@alphalink.com.au Vladimir Tittl http://www.alphalink.com.au/~untold The Head Master Voice ++61 3 9523 7235 Melbourne Fax ++61 3 9705 2212 Australia - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Sun Mar 30 05:08:24 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA27827 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 05:08:23 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 04:50:31 -0500 Received: from jupiter.centrin.net.id ([202.146.255.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 04:49:10 -0500 Received: from [202.146.255.167] by jupiter.centrin.net.id; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0523PM) id AA27139; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 16:49:03 +0700 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 04:49:03 -0500 Message-Id: <9703300949.AA27139@jupiter.centrin.net.id> X-Sender: ajuwono@centrin.net.id X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Albert Juwono Subject: sgroup Another digital thing! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R I'm a digital newbie. I've work with ADAT before, but still with the old fashioned way, by using its analog I/O. Since my S-760 is safely mounted on an SKB case, I never bother to stretch my back and install the op-760 and adding a big TV to my already too crowded and too messy room/studio. But when it comes to digital connection, I think it has something valuable to offer. Ok here's some question. 1. I have a Roland S-760 brochure that stated the op760 will add coaxial digital input (AES/EBU CP-340 type II). Some magazine I've read stated that the OP760 will add an S/PDIF interface. So my guess is AES/EBU input and S/PDIF output, am I right? 2. My Sony CD Player has an optical digital out. My Kenwood CDPlayer also has an optical digital out. Ok, I'm confused. If I'm gonna do sampling in digital domain, what CD Player is compatible, and what cable should I use. The digital out from both of my CD Player looks a bit like the Alesis QS's optical out. My guess is it requires special cable (an optical cable) to fit those funny looking inputs. Is the cable expensive? Ok, thanks for reading this, any feedback are most welcome! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 31 15:34:05 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06794 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:34:04 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <126>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:16:31 -0500 Received: from jupiter.centrin.net.id ([202.146.255.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <159>; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:58:54 -0500 Received: from [202.146.255.171] by jupiter.centrin.net.id; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0523PM) id AA17832; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 05:58:42 +0700 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 17:58:42 -0500 Message-Id: <9703302258.AA17832@jupiter.centrin.net.id> X-Sender: ajuwono@centrin.net.id X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Albert Juwono Subject: Re: sgroup Another digital thing! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R At 17:18 30/03/97 -0500, you wrote: > >In a message dated 3/30/97 5:13:30 AM, you wrote: > >>1. I have a Roland S-760 brochure that stated the op760 will add coaxial >>digital input (AES/EBU CP-340 type II). Some magazine I've read stated that >>the OP760 will add an S/PDIF interface. So my guess is AES/EBU input and >>S/PDIF output, am I right? > >S/PDIF only, I believe. in and out. AES/EBU generally uses XLR type >connectors - the connectors on the expansion board are only RCA type, 1 in >and 2 outs. >> Thanks to all that responded to my question. The S/PDIF connector looks like a plain RCA. So, can I use plain audio RCA cable and jacks? One more thing, is there a PC card that has a digital audio I/O (S/PDIF)? Thanks. - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 31 17:07:57 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08623 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:07:55 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA19247 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:07:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:54:20 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <180>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:52:07 -0500 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13642 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from uucp5.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp5.UU.NET [192.48.96.36]) id QQcjey10644; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp5.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 00:04:46 -0500 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id UAA24648; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 20:55:10 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:33:59 -0500 From: "Dan Phillips" Subject: Re: sgroup S-550 v. Sequenti To: "Roland Samplers" Cc: uunet!alphalink.com.au!untold@uunet.uu.net X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>sgroup S-550 v. Sequential Prophet 3000 Vladimir Tittl asks: > I'm still happy with the sound of my s-550, but I was wondering if > anyone knows how it compares with a Sequential Prophet 3000? > The operatng system is supposed to be a lot easier? > > I know both the s-550 and the Prophet 2002 are 12 bit and the 3000 is 16 > bit, but that's all I know. The little that I know about the Prophet 3000: 8 voices Analog filters 2 or 4 meg of RAM (theoretically expandable to 8, but according to a good friend who worked at Sequential and has two Prophet 3000's, the 8 meg expansion was very touchy and required hand-selected parts; he has one of the very few 8 meg machines ever made) Hard-drive software is an aftermarket item, available from Wine Country Interface is somewhat similar to the Korg Wavestation, if you're familiar with that synth; large-ish LCD, five softkeys to select editing screens. However, the only data entry on the 3000 is a rotary dial, which I'm told can get tedious when editing sample data. - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 31 17:21:14 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08797 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:21:13 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <159>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:07:36 -0500 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca ([129.97.140.144]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <185>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:52:23 -0500 Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13031 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp2.UU.NET [192.48.96.40]) id QQcjew07071; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:34:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from korgrd.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:33:38 -0500 Received: from korgrd.com by korgrd.korgrd.com (8.6.9/3.3W4-korgrd_950728) id UAA24605; Sun, 30 Mar 1997 20:39:56 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:18:36 -0500 From: "Dan Phillips" Subject: Re: sgroup Another digital t To: "Roland Samplers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP/QM 3.0.0 Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Reply to: RE>sgroup Another digital thing! Albert Juwono writes: > 1. I have a Roland S-760 brochure that stated the op760 will add coaxial > digital input (AES/EBU CP-340 type II). Some magazine I've read stated that > the OP760 will add an S/PDIF interface. So my guess is AES/EBU input and > S/PDIF output, am I right? The OP-760 has one (stereo) S/PDIF input and two (stereo) S/PDIF outputs, on RCA jacks (as opposed to optical). S/PDIF, like certain heroes of Tolkein epics, goes by many names. My Roland manuals refer to it as CP-340; Panasonic DAT manual refers to it as IEC-958, Symmetrix A/D manual calls it S/PDIF and then also mentions IEC-958, AI-1 manual just calls it S/PDIF, etc. Despite the differences in terminology, they all talk to each other just fine. > 2. My Sony CD Player has an optical digital out. My Kenwood CDPlayer also > has an optical digital out. Ok, I'm confused. If I'm gonna do sampling in > digital domain, what CD Player is compatible, and what cable should I use. > The digital out from both of my CD Player looks a bit like the Alesis QS's > optical out. My guess is it requires special cable (an optical cable) to fit > those funny looking inputs. Is the cable expensive? You'll need a device to convert from optical S/PDIF to coaxial (RCA) S/PDIF. I believe these can be had in the $100 range, but I'm not sure; I may be remembering the special cables used for Sony portable DATs, instead. I use a Philips CD turntable with a coaxial S/PDIF output; seems to work well. - Dan - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 31 17:56:57 1997 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA09573 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:56:57 -0500 Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <170>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:46:24 -0500 Received: from atom.om.com.au ([203.15.66.10]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:45:18 -0500 Received: from [203.19.108.87] (lennox55.om.com.au) by atom.om.com.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA22466; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:30:59 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 01:45:20 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: tone@om.com.au (Tony Wandaller) Subject: sgroup W30 zip Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Does anyone know if I can use a zip drive with a W 30 ? - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 31 18:18:08 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10040 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:18:07 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27218 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <171>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:05:13 -0500 Received: from hauki.clinet.fi ([194.100.0.1]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <166>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:04:05 -0500 Received: from RocksBay.dna.fi (RocksBay.dna.fi [194.100.32.195]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.8.5/8.6.4) with SMTP id CAA04066 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 02:03:49 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970401020938.00b17444@mail.clinet.fi> X-Sender: captain@mail.clinet.fi X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:09:39 -0500 To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Markus Kaarlonen Subject: sgroup Another digital thing! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R >The S/PDIF connector looks like a plain RCA. So, can I use plain audio RCA >cable and jacks? Yes, you can. Now, someone is probably going to tell you something like "Use a special cable made for that purpose, or you will lose the high end in your sound blah blah..".. that is absolute b*llshit (sorry for the language). In digital transfers, the sound either goes thru the cable, or it doesn't. IF the cable somehow manages to produce errors in the transfer, you _will_ hear them. A good quality audio-RCA-cable is just fine. One more thing, is there a PC card that has a digital audio >I/O (S/PDIF)? Thanks. If only input is enough for you, for example SoundBlaster AWE 64 Gold has it (and doesn't cost a fortune). I don't know how it works in practice, the truth of course is that SB's aren't really "pro" cards. Some harddisk-recording systems have S/PDIF-connectors, but if S/PDIF is really all you need... I guess there are dedicated S/PDIF cards, maybe someone else knows? Markus "Captain" Kaarlonen "A film is - or should be - more like music M2 Productions than like fiction. It should be a progression of moods m2.asdf.org and feelings. The theme, what's behind the emotion, the captain@clinet.fi meaning, all that comes later." -- Stanley Kubrick - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Mon Mar 31 20:13:11 1997 Received: from math.uwaterloo.ca (root@math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.144]) by watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA11589 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:13:10 -0500 Received: from lotus.uwaterloo.ca (lotus.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.9]) by math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA15090 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:13:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by lotus.uwaterloo.ca id <156>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:01:25 -0500 Received: from jupiter.centrin.net.id ([202.146.255.3]) by lotus.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id <126>; Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:00:16 -0500 Received: from [202.146.255.175] by jupiter.centrin.net.id; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/11Jul96-0523PM) id AA11070; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 08:00:10 +0700 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:00:10 -0500 Message-Id: <9704010100.AA11070@jupiter.centrin.net.id> X-Sender: ajuwono@centrin.net.id X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca From: Albert Juwono Subject: sgroup S/PDIF thing! Sender: owner-sgroup@lotus.uwaterloo.ca Precedence: bulk Status: R Thanks for all the information. You know why I start asking around about S/PDIF? Two days ago, a sales person from music store told me that in order to do digital transfer rightly, I have to purchase (from him) a pair of cable that cost $250 with gold plated jacks (another $50). Yes, the cable's manual said something about digital Audio and S/PDIF but for $300.....I don't think so! I'm aware that many pro audio cables cost much more than this, but still it's expensive for average guy like me. So, thank you for being helpful and prevent me to do stupid things with my money! - Sent by the sgroup mailing list on lotus.uwaterloo.ca For subscription information, send mail to majordomo@lotus.uwaterloo.ca